nms-multitools

[astral shuttle]

anything with these colors would be nice

[grand sorrel]

i've been scammed 😱

[shy jewel]

Uh don’t s class all have four supercharge slots?

I must have not unlocked some slots

[sour bramble]

I can see the marker just went out of portal

The 5th glyph in coord should be not the

[obtuse musk]

Does anyone know where to get a 4 supercharged staff?

[mint wing]

If you scroll up , probably someone already posted it.

[nocturne flume]

yea scroll up, I posted something there

[woven wadi]

Hi everybody 😅

Can anyone tell me how to get that black n red halo gun?

It looks like a halo gun lol

[amber pawn]

@woven wadi Dis one?

[woven wadi]

Ummm no but that one looks cool

[solemn talon]

Euclid ->

[woven wadi]

It looks like the old Ar

Ooooo that other one looks nice too 😭

[amber pawn]

I dont know Halo, I just know some guy was obsessed with the Needler so I helped him find the best recreation I could using the bot.

[woven wadi]

That’s a pretty good clone

[solemn talon]

I had the same but B and found an A, till it remains the secondary as i got an S staff tho

[amber pawn]

Best NMS procgen can do, basically

[woven wadi]

For me I don’t mind it being low class

I’ll build it up 🤞🏾

[amber pawn]

All MTs found by the bot are natural c class

Mjstral found a shortcut for those, by only checking the 1st space station MT seed in each system, the bot was able to compile locations for about 10 billion MT models over a week kr so, far more efficient dbase compilation than actually recreating seedgen for all models in systems.

....but the way the game assigns natural class is by 1st to last seeds on the list, so the 1st seed is always natural C

[woven wadi]

I’m about to try going here

I never have much luck with these portals tho 😭

Haha oh yeah I don’t have all the glyphs 😅

[grave venture]

oooh, i may get that one

[woven wadi]

Missing one symbol😮‍💨

[mint wing]

Time for my rifle that i had on this save from begining has ended. No more space for more mt. One needs to go. Im Searching for white experimental or red&grey royal with good 4 SC slots for scanning . So i can complie 2 mt in 1.

[upbeat dagger]

This thing just needs to be a bit bigger and it'd make for a good spin on the Sleeper Simulant

[grave venture]

fits really well with blaze javelin imo

[solemn talon]

theres a save point at the portal

should also be a base at an harmonic camp if u wanna look for ships maybe

[tacit pollen]

hows my multitool

[upbeat dagger]

Polyphonic core? First I've heard of that

[nocturne flume]

cool

[nocturne flume]

A - class staff

[upbeat dagger]

Excuse me, what? Neutron is strong, but... What? NICE

That damage potential is bonkers

[nocturne flume]

nvm haha

[nocturne flume]

highest on my staves collection

my highest dmg for senti

[upbeat dagger]

Yeah, too bad that left end SC isn't where your paralysis launcher is at

[nocturne flume]

yea or somewhere close to the other slots on the mining modules the A and S class...

[upbeat dagger]

This thing back here, I'm hoping that once I stop to finish it, the 4th would be right there with the other 3 in range of the bolt

[tacit pollen]

My friend said get staff from here it's pretty good so I built it and it was S tier

So I'm happy

[nocturne flume]

Yea it is a nice find from Hero youtube

my max on that thing is only 172k

[tacit pollen]

Ooh no wonder he recomend

[tacit pollen]

Well I'm a pulse splitter user

[nocturne flume]

Ayt2

[tacit pollen]

I wanted a Gold staff so I'm happy

As it will match my OC

[nocturne flume]

That's a great find then if it suits your character hehe

[tacit pollen]

Bro but I'm so angry at the same time that i couldn't get it before wanna know why?

[nocturne flume]

Why?

[tacit pollen]

Like look at these epic pics, I WOULD HAVE LOOKED EVEN COOLER WITH A STAFF MAN

I can still get the first tone just gotta find the location again cuz I live on that planet but that atlas one is impossible

Cuz it was from atlas path final

[nocturne flume]

Well, unfortunately...

[tacit pollen]

Wait i just realised

You said 172k

I read 17k

SO WAIT STAFF REACHES 172K DMG

[amber pawn]

Provided you can still roll 35% Charge Reduction on S Neutron mods, yes, a Sentinel or Stff MT can hit >180k

[tacit pollen]

THATS MORE THAN MY SHIP

[tacit pollen]

Tho I'm a pulse splitter main

CUZ BRRRRR BOUNCE FIRE

THEN BRRRRR

And paralysis mortar for extra damage

Cuz yes

[nocturne flume]

Yea it can and this is my highest so far #nms-multitools message

[tacit pollen]

Ooooh

[tacit pollen]

@nocturne flume my highest

[amber pawn]

@nocturne flume Do you have S mods that rolled 50% charge on Neutron?

[nocturne flume]

That's good man

[tacit pollen]

Thx

[lofty scaffold]

S mods roll 50%

[nocturne flume]

I do not think so because those neutron mods that has 50% charge that doesn't have a max stats I already deleted

[lofty scaffold]

the neutron damage boost comes from the 50% charge not from the damage 🙂

[amber pawn]

@lofty scaffold Neutron rolled up to 50% post-4.3, post-4.4, 35% - anyone who has the 50% mods is being lied to now, the actual mods get adjusted, but the cards showing their stats are left untouched.

[lofty scaffold]

think i rolled a few 50% ones after 4.4 and damage hasn't gone down

[amber pawn]

Hmm, apparently I have some rerolls to do - I'm not sure if it was 4.4, or one of the patches since; I only bother to keep track of the major update for most changes

[odd fox]

I will never forget the staff named “The Throngler”

Funniest shit I’ve heard in a while

[mental python]

Sorry if this is a dumb question but how do you find the royal multi-tools and the atlantid multi-tools?

[astral shuttle]

yo what are the coordinates

that looks nice i had one that looked like that but it was B

[tacit pollen]

My friend taxied me there

I will ask him gimme a sec

[astral shuttle]

if u find out lmk

ok

this is my current staff

[tacit pollen]

@astral shuttle https://www.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/comments/16jkzgw/172k_damage_natural_s_class_uranium_concentric/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[astral shuttle]

A rank iirc

[astral shuttle]

alr sick

is it like yellow in game or is it more beige

[astral shuttle]

i can’t find an S class one

[grave venture]

Do you have the right head?

[tacit pollen]

Follow the coords

There will be a base called hero's S class staff

Than look around

[tacit pollen]

Also yes right head matters

[astral shuttle]

i think i have it

i need the body tho

[astral shuttle]

i suck at coords

[tacit pollen]

Same lol

[grave venture]

Only head and terminal matters

[astral shuttle]

also there are no coordinates

i’m at the right system tho

[tacit pollen]

Second page or third page

Where he's scanning with visor

-68 and +74 @astral shuttle

[astral shuttle]

damn

i got it

it sucks lmao

well it doesn’t suck but

i have an A class that has several thousand more damage potential and better scan range

[tacit pollen]

It's not about the base stats

They won't matter usually

The mods

And how you place them

Will increase it

[tacit pollen]

Scan range ehhh it's more of a dps wepaon

[amber pawn]

Scan range is a joke - it only affects 1 thing in the game, the range of your Scan Pulse, aka "how far away can I light up Sodium flowers?", and caps at ~1100u, which any MT can easily hit.

[astral shuttle]

well idrc about the range but the S rank staff i got had significantly worse damage even with upgrades

my current staffs damage potential is 7286

it’s base is like 400 tho

[amber pawn]

@astral shuttle Same weapon? Mining Beam vs anything that registers DP, Mining Beam loses, that aint base stats lol

[astral shuttle]

my scatter blaster is supercharged

[amber pawn]

Yeah, thats worth about 6K alone

Fully Upgraded, Mining Beam caps @ <2000

Package all the tech on both, you dont lose anything by actually comparing them properly, minus a few minutes.

[astral shuttle]

oh so if my damage potential is past 2000 that’s because of the other weapons i have?

so like is 3070 decent damage potential

ooh ok i just put my upgrades on my other staff it’s way better now

[amber pawn]

@astral shuttle Stop comparing MTs that are kitted out. Would you rather multiply, use exponents, and divide through calculations for both Staves kitted out? Or take 60s to pack up the tech on both and deal with identically-scaled values?
It takes longer to do the math youre asking for than to compare the base damage on two MTs

[astral shuttle]

alr

well i’m good now i’m not looking for a tool

[obtuse musk]

Good????

[mint wing]

Everything above 40k is overkill

[obtuse musk]

So your saying I need more gotcha

[mint wing]

Not really but yeah. 🤣

[obtuse musk]

👍👍

[upbeat dagger]

Only way to make that damage higher would be to swap the A class with the core module

[obtuse musk]

Bet

[upbeat dagger]

After that, I'm pretty sure that putting that A class adjacent to any of the S class modules would do more increase than adjacency to the base module

[obtuse musk]

You can’t switch it to a module it’ll overload it

[upbeat dagger]

Not talking about mod upgrades. Talking about that already installed module. I know it's the crafted one, I just can't be bothered to pull out my Bifrost Key and check the name of it again.

[obtuse musk]

Where would I get one though

The anomaly doesn’t have a s class version of it?

[upbeat dagger]

What?

I was saying to move the core neutron module to where the A class currently is, and the A class to an adjacent slot on the outside of that 2x2, next to one of the S class modules

[obtuse musk]

It’s gone down to 87k now

And if I put it beside the s class it goes down to 82k

[upbeat dagger]

That's... Rather odd

Meh, suppose it works differently for each weapon

[uncut scarab]

@nocturne flume highest i could get

[nocturne flume]

That's good man. Try to still search the mod that has it all

[uncut scarab]

lol i ran through them all

[nocturne flume]

Then save nanites and collect tons of neutron mods 😅

[nocturne flume]

Is that a 4 square SC?

[nocturne flume]

Euclid - 175586.8 damage potential at max neutron module upgrade.

[nocturne flume]

Same pattern with my sentinel rifle

[obtuse musk]

Yea

[tepid summit]

Finally found a good color scheme... but it's a C class
Should I take it and just upgrade it to S myself or hold out for another good color scheme with a better class? (I have been looking for days for a color scheme like this but also it'd be a lotttt of nanites...)

[tepid summit]

Major downside I see off the bat is it doesn't have any super charged slots by default, should I take it anyway with the gamble of where they'll be when I upgrade it?

[nocturne flume]

You will gamble a lot of nanites to it. You need to upgrade the class and unlock the slots

[tepid summit]

Yeah...
I do have 14 multitool expansion slots saved up but still

Idk, I marked it down just in case but I guess I'll keep searching till I find something better or give up and settle for this

[nocturne flume]

Depends on your play style man. I really dont mind the looks rn and I am just looking forward to have a good layout of SC's

[nocturne flume]

If you want to hunt on your own yea it will be hard. There are staves that has good class and sc slots so might as well check on them if you liked the color scheme and looks

[tepid summit]

I'm going for a full matching set (my character has a strong green and black color scheme so I want my tool, exocraft, and ship to match) but I also highly value functionality, so if this staff is too much of a gamble I might just stay on the lookout for now and come back to this one if I decide searching gets tedious lol

[nocturne flume]

I agree 🙂 goodluck!

[tepid summit]

Thanks! :D

[amber pawn]

@nocturne flume Gamble? Gambling implies it's possible to lose, lol. Exit ship on Space Station, spend 85k Nanites to upgrade to S, use a couple dozen MT Expansions to check the layout, screenshot it, and, here's the important part -
Reload from Restore Point
Back outside your ship, with 85k nanites and a couple dozen slot expansions for the next contender. 😉

[tepid summit]

Maybe if I actually stock up enough nanites to do that all at once I'll try it

[supple flame]

@tepid summit sell all ur spare modules to earn big nanities lvls

[nocturne flume]

Oh yea I forgot about the restore save point 😂 my bad man, I have not noticed that way anymore coz I almost don't worry the costs and effort to check things out

[turbid atlas]

how do i get a royal mt?

[granite orchid]

sentinel pillars

[grand sorrel]

royal multitool

[upbeat dagger]

Need some coords for that, in case the boundary scanners just loop back to the same tower elsewhere. Other than that, I'm a fan of the color scheme. Just wish the second SC slot was closer to the first.

[calm lichen]

Seed is 0xD59CF4A6D9C2718F

[rancid sleet]

Is the rare to find in those weapons? Damn man…

[mint wing]

I think its just rng

[rotund pumice]

nice SC slots, i hope i'll find a tool as good as this on in the wild

[pulsar charm]

The red image is spoilers

[grave venture]

Ummm…does he know?

[rotund pumice]

i know sarcasm for sure

btw the DP is not even that great XD

[grave venture]

Oh thank god

You never know online

[rotund pumice]

i've seen legit tool doing better

[rotund pumice]

anyway that SC layout is nice XD

[grave venture]

True lol

[rotund pumice]

you don't need to think about synergy

just place stuff anywhere

the fun part is that only 1 weapon + upgrade give the DP

unlike ships

so i assume only the Neutron canon matter here

even if on the 5 tech, 1 should not be boosted

[grave venture]

Just fake dmg anyways

[rotund pumice]

yup, above 35/40k it's just overkill

unless an update allow you to blast capital ship from a planet

you don't need that much damage

anyway i've made a ship with all of the tech (well no all but nearrly all the tech) and it's just downright bad to use for dogfight, because it take SO much time to swap weapons

[grave venture]

Yeah

[arctic elbow]

S-Class 3 Supercharged Slots together. Galaxy: Ijsenufryos

Atlantid are those who can be found in Monoliths is that correct?

[grave venture]

Yep

[arctic elbow]

thx

[uncut scarab]

do you know of a really good one?

[exotic grove]

and its STILL not better then just using the minotaur.

[lofty scaffold]

@amber pawn got a Boltcaster SM module? can they be traded?

[amber pawn]

@lofty scaffold Packed tech has never been tradeable, in spite of the Waypoint update notes, sadly.

[lofty scaffold]

how's this for a boltacster build?

haven't got my hands on an L sc yet

[exotic grove]

why use bult caster when you can use basically a handheld minigun.

[lofty scaffold]

cuz of the extra sentinel modules i kept saving in my inventory 😄

[exotic grove]

doesnt itapply to all weapons?

[lofty scaffold]

nope, only boltcaster, hence making one

[exotic grove]

i thought that was only the black market modules

[lofty scaffold]

nope, the ? modules that come from the glass the sentinel drops are for boltcaster only

so it made boltcaster sound op since it hads 2x modules compared to the other weapons

so i made one to see what's up

[amber pawn]

The extra mods make it competitive, not OP

They needed to be Boltcaster only. because HG also had to worry about not making the base weapon delete everything out of the gate - they'd need to drop the "survival" genre credit in single player XD

The unintended interactions that have cropped up over the years may be ridculous and hilarious, but Sean and co aint slouches, the things they do intentionally are always the product of considered reasoning - I don't envy them the tightrope they've managed to walk for 7 years with so few slips and falls

[arctic elbow]

Galaxy: Ijsenufryos

Still looking to get a Sentinel S-Class. Some Tipps and Tricks???

[rancid lotus]

atlantid mt near hyades galaxy center

[mystic lagoon]

Has anyone found a Red/White Radiant Staff? Red crystal

[blissful harbor]

I found a white one with white crystal

Anyone know of a white and gold Atlantid ? I found a good one but unfortunately it's 100 galaxy jumps away

[arctic elbow]

What Galaxy is it you want to go?

[blissful harbor]

Nudquathsenfe

[arctic elbow]

okay. i have to take a look

[grave venture]

Are you on switch?

[blissful harbor]

Ps5

[grave venture]

Ok, then you can join someone’s game and they will be able to take you to that galaxy

[proper heath]

What's the best sc about Pulse Spitte?

[grave venture]

It shoots

[arctic elbow]

I can bring you there

[blissful harbor]

If you can that would be greatly appreciated

Also I'm a bit confused on atlantids, I've heard some say the damage is good but others say its only purpose is for mining?

[grave venture]

Dmg is worst possible

[blissful harbor]

Ok thank you just wanted to make sure of it, they're still aesthetically pleasing

[proper heath]

Ah no, I want to ask what is the best SC for Pulse Spitte?

[grave venture]

One of them

[proper heath]

？

[grave venture]

Yes

[proper heath]

I do not quite understand

[grave venture]

Same

I don’t understand me either

[blissful harbor]

Are you asking for best pulse spitter upgrades?

[proper heath]

I want asking for best supercharge

[blissful harbor]

Square shaped or at least 2 next to each other, 3 in an L shape is great as well

[grave venture]

Pulse spitter isn’t really that good imo, neutron is a way better use of your SC

[blissful harbor]

If you get the max stats on x class with sentinel upgrades it's quite nice

[arctic elbow]

yes, same here

[arctic elbow]

For Mining it is Wunderwaffe

[amber pawn]

@blissful harbor ....Sentinel upgrades apply to nothing except Boltcaster.

@blissful harbor @grave venture @arctic elbow Sentinel MTs + Staff share best damage
Atlantid MTs are the new mining top dogs, and Pistols have always and still do possess the worst damage bonus - none whatsoever

Pistol =/= ALL single handed weapons

[grave venture]

Eh yes, I didn’t say anything contradicting this did I?

[amber pawn]

@grave venture You said Lantids have the worst damage

[grave venture]

Oooh

[blissful harbor]

Wait really, only boltcaster? Wow, didn't know that

[pulsar charm]

if that's true I've been wasting slots all this time

btw is S the best rank for items? I've seen that alot of the X rank items I get are worse

[amber pawn]

@pulsar charm Some troll posted a YT vid as "evidence" of the ? Mods affecting Pulse Spitter stats - so I re-created the exact same comparison video; if my reputation doesn't make up your mind about which vid is a lie, my piss poor video editing skills and obvious lack of concern about any kind of self-promotion may provide a last lil push.
https://youtu.be/s7_3RcCcBQE?si=OqDEGC0JtKiKsTke

[pulsar charm]

dumb that the items don't say they only affect the boltcaster

[amber pawn]

It took me half a day to figure out how to display the two stopwatch timers onscreen - I know I have a tendency towards rage when it comes to people spreading misinformation; while I do feel bad when the person simply doesnt know any better, it's also the reason why I'm willing to go to these lengths to make griefers/trolls eat their words, as publicly as possible.

@pulsar charm Agreed, when I was linking this vid regularly (people were bringing the link for his to back up their argument for several weeks), I also recommended zendesk reports requesting that very feature to prevent similar situations in the future.

[pulsar charm]

do you know the answer for this tho

also idk if i should keep using scatter blaster and pulse spitter, I've been using them cuz they're 2 of the 3 weapons that actually use ammo

[amber pawn]

@pulsar charm Think of XClass like the lottery - the numbers can be anywhere from worse than any C Class, all the way up to better than the best S Class. Thankfully, these days the odds are much better than the word lottery implies, some techs average out as well as 1 roll >max S per 35 total. (The worst odds are on weapons tech that roll 4 stat bonuses, only ~1 in 200 beat max S)

[pulsar charm]

so it's just randomized

[amber pawn]

Not in the least, but thats the easiest way to grasp the basic concept

[rancid lotus]

been to a dozen pillars and finally found me first exotic mt.
coords for hyades

[grave venture]

I think you're gonna have to send pillar coords too for those ones

[rancid lotus]

oh like the planet x-y position ?

[grave venture]

yes

[rancid lotus]

planet: Akvanthe V
-22.13, -43.24

[bleak wave]

Looking for a similar staff. I am going for a evil wizard kind of vibe. lmk

Nevermind I found it.

[tacit pollen]

Shadow wizard money gang

[tepid summit]

C class but a neat color scheme so thought I'd put it here

[amber pawn]

@grave venture @rancid lotus Incorrect, every Sentinel Pillar on same planet is identical.

[snow knoll]

Banana Staff

C-class tho

[grave venture]

Oh?

Yeah I don’t know anything

Don’t take advice from me

[amber pawn]

How do you think I got to where I am? 90% of the time when I correct someone, it's because at some point I was in their shoes, and someone did the same for me. 😉

[sullen flax]

RELATABLE

[upbeat dagger]

Gotta roll hellish amounts of x class for them, but they do have the best max results

[lofty scaffold]

@amber pawn i was skeptical about the L sc vs ? sc configs for boltcaster, but turns out there's a substantial damage increase for L (follower your chart setup)

[amber pawn]

@lofty scaffold Appreciate the feedback. 🙂 Yeah, since you wrrent trying to say your way was definitely better, I decided to hold off on repeating anything I was pretty sure you were aware of from me on the subject. I'm aware that I'm a bit of an acquired taste, and can be perceived as hostile at first to those who try to refuse any possibility theyre mistaken - but I do try to avoid being confrontational unless it's a necessity. 😄

[lofty scaffold]

but ? config is still superior for neutron, that i know for sure 😄

i presume you used it here? pretty hard to tell which are the SC slots, maybe draw a blueish border around them?

[amber pawn]

I've got my supply of Neutron mods all ready, just need to edit in a ? layout before I can test that assertion. 😄

Seeing is believing, but I prefer with my own eyes

[lofty scaffold]

go do science! 😄

@amber pawn naooo

[amber pawn]

Soon, out in the garage smoking mah bowl, then science.

[lofty scaffold]

lets get rid of the darn square curse once and for all!

also i think i marked the spot with a yellow star, but not 100% sure

[amber pawn]

I know right? We've certainly thinned the herd, just a few more techs to put outta their misery. 🤣

[lofty scaffold]

yeh, 1 more nail and the coffin is ready to go

[tepid summit]

I read the bottom two as "apple injector" 😭

[arctic elbow]

Cool Skull Stuff @Nudquathsenfe Galaxy

Cool White A-Class Staff @ the same place

[arctic elbow]

Another S-Class Staff @ the same place "Galaxy

I searched so long for a Skull Staff and now they are lolling in!

Looks cool my new S-Class Skull Staff

[tepid summit]

Is there any trick to getting S-class staves or am I just insanely unlucky?

[boreal obsidian]

As long as you check each staff head at each camp you should eventually run into them, though they aren't especially common, I've found many staves but only a handful of S class ones

[lofty scaffold]

1 in 50 was it? so 1 in 7 camps 🙂

[amber pawn]

~1 in 3 for outlaw

[mint briar]

So what's yall fav weapon combo for a combat only multitool

Removing and reinstalling the terrain mainpulator for better weaponcycling between each weapons is getting to me

Ny plan is that i akready have an experimental multitool acting as an explorer type

And i also got a S class rifle thingy long ago

So gonna use it for stuff like sentinel farming and derelict sweeps

[lofty scaffold]

i got 5 atm, 1 pulse spitter, 1 miner, 1 scanner, 1 neutron and 1 boltcaster and i have them keybind to 1 2 3 4 5

and i never have to cycle, i press 1 i shoot, i press 2 i mine 🙂

at least i could never remember how many cycles to get from one thing to another, so everytime i had to look at the top of the screen and it got annoying really fast

also this way each weapon benefits from the suprecharged slots

[pseudo sky]

smort

I just got my first S class rifle, but I hope eventually to get to that level of big brain too :P

[arctic elbow]

3 Star Systems only and you have to go to the Space Station first when there is a MT with C-Class go to the next System. I am only Hunting when there is A-Class MT. It can only go up 1 class so A-Class can go up to S-Class but B-Class can't go up to S

[arctic elbow]

Endgame not Big Brain

[crystal hatch]

Currently working on my first staff. Gonna try to update you guys when its complete.

[lofty scaffold]

gathering parts or checking stations?

[drowsy verge]

@dim cloak
When you want more fire power ...
Or in need to increase your power of fire...
Your search ends here...

Guns guns and more guns

[dim cloak]

What is the fire power

Ouah

[drowsy verge]

All about guns in here

[dim cloak]

Okkk 💥💥

[drowsy verge]

Or staffs...as of now

[limber rampart]

also anyone has something similar to this but in blue? (specifically i want a black-blue one with a black hole orb)

[limber rampart]

also its impoxectin galaxy, sorry for the typo

[solar sphinx]

that looks nice

[amber pawn]

@limber rampart Wait, what? Someone else is finally hunting in Impoxectin? Damn, I liked scouting there. lol

[limber rampart]

nah i followed someone there multiplayer, scouted a few planets, and then left. Might come back tho, saw some planets that I liked

[amber pawn]

@limber rampart Look, this galaxy's not big enough for the both of us - don't worry, I'll leave. 🤣

[limber rampart]

dont lol, i may not even come back

[amber pawn]

@limber rampart Dude, I literally just go where other people aren't, it's no skin off my nose, you're just an excuse to move on to the next place. 😉

[limber rampart]

so what about the people that have a outpost on all 255 galaxies lol? its no big deal, chances are we may not even run into each other

and also that planet is literally a million lightyears away from core

so yea

[amber pawn]

I dont care about occupying the same galaxy as people, but I do care about posting locations in galaxies that people are unlikely to have access to, to encourage travel.

So once someone else posts in the galaxy I'm currently using, it's time to switch.

Nobody forces me to do anything, I just have a preplanned set of responses based on what I decided was the way I want to go about things years ago.

[limber rampart]

yeah but thats not gonna be regular from me, since i happened to stumble across it

but im not gonna stop u, u do u

[amber pawn]

I always do - "me" is also quite helpful, so people tend to decide to just smile and nod at my crazy, because I'm not bothered either way. 😄

[crystal hatch]

Gathering parts, I got the staff transfered all my upgrades from my old multitool to my staff.

[mint briar]

Is there even blue sentinel multitool

[pulsar charm]

No sentinel mts only have 2 forms

That's it

[mint briar]

💀

Smh

Time to get myself one of the bigger ones

And make an LMG out of it

[carmine saddle]

Shadow wizard money gang 🔥

[tacit pollen]

WE LOVE CASTING SPELLS

[topaz sleet]

Are staffs like normal multitools or do you need to unlock a quest

[boreal obsidian]

They come from a quest that comes after doing the 'main quest line' that involves going to a new galaxy, something I put off forever so I don't know how long it would normally take people to clear

[gleaming stream]

!faq-echoes

[chilly hill]

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❔ **Stuck starting the Echoes content?**

Make sure the steps below are completed.

⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.

1. Finish the Artemis Path (main story). Run !Faq-ArtemisPath in #bot-spam.
2. Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp. Run !Faq-Interceptor in #bot-spam.
3. Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.

❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44 & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.

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[gleaming stream]

Staves are part of the Autophage quest line, those are the requirements on how to start it ^^^

As for stats, they have the same stats as Sentinel MTs - high damage, low mining

[raw tendon]

hey peeps, which head give the new staff multitools green energy colour?

[boreal obsidian]

For the mining laser the color of the beam depends on what tech you have installed in it

[raw tendon]

no sorry i didn't specify, sooo the staffs have these small lights on them

[grave venture]

That depends on the terminal

[tacit pollen]

Mine has cyan

Or light blue

[tacit pollen]

found this

[lofty scaffold]

use S modules for neutron, they are way better

[drowsy verge]

@vague wolf

Here

[drowsy verge]

Its usually green in start...
Goes towards yellow ish green ...as it heats up...to orange and finally red near its limit

And different color have different damage stats

Green base damage to red with max possible damage

You will mine faster when it's near red

[raw tendon]

I mean, phisically on the staff, not the heat indicator or the mining beam

[minor carbon]

May someone help me with collecting the staff please?

[nocturne flume]

Can u show the SC slots?

[lofty scaffold]

would be a plus if you dismantle all the modules on them to show the base damage potential for the staves, and even unlock all the supercharged slots (you can reload the restore point after)

[cobalt needle]

its c but its Soooo cool looking

I'm behind the times on these I think

[arctic elbow]

yeah, of course. had no time yet

[rotund pumice]

clean look

i like that

[cobalt needle]

it even matches my character

[mental thunder]

is it worth to upgrade multitools instead of hunting for the perfect multitool S-Class?

[cobalt needle]

early game, I hunt down a good one and just keep that until I'm rich

once you get a mould farm up, s class upgrades are cheap

[mental thunder]

are Supercharged slots getting assinged with upgrades?

[cobalt needle]

i think they're predefined and you just discover them

fully upgraded s class should have 4

[mental thunder]

oh i see so there's no rng to that stat

i was hunting autophage outpost after outpost and S-Class seems always to be very limited on slots

[mental thunder]

makes me think im stupid since i've played my first full playthrough with an multitool stuck at A mostly

now im just completing my set at the end of all questlines

[cobalt needle]

no worries. it does not make that big a difference

honestly i find switching through like 8 weapons irritating, so I tend to pick one good damage dealer, add the plasma launcher, and then just max all that out

my first playthrough was a billion years ago and the game was way different

[mental thunder]

I only started partly like 2 years ago and this month i fully completed the questline and everything in 1 go and this seems way too chaotic with all the different questlines making it impossible to find the right planet/system/conditions to fully complete a set and feel satisfied with the loadout

[cobalt needle]

I bought the expensive preorder, tried it... quickly became disaffected in game promised v game delivered.. stopped came back after a few years of polish. played it through, then came back again after the first few expeditions started and now I've played 3 of them. quite fun

[mental thunder]

I agree it is fun to discover and always get your head into new worlds, Some missions of this expidition were stupid tho, since they were bound mostly to the rendevouz point system

for example the most vicious fauna found, most hot blooded and such

sorry bout the offtopic talk - hope u guys have a nice travel across the stars

[stone drift]

search around on r/nmscoordnateexchange for a bit, i saw a red/white crystal staff on there

search up "staff" and you'll see it.

[arctic elbow]

Never saw that one before! Looks strange but kinda cool

[rotund pumice]

the nozel? yea it's cool imo

[lofty scaffold]

for who didnt know you can find pretty good modules on the staves, spare you of a lot of nanites for rolling them:)

[upbeat dagger]

First time in a looong time that I've seen a grey/silver scale rifle without any other colors tarnishing it. Not a whole lot of room left on the MT to locate the SC slots, so I'd imagine they're in the lower 3 rows

[arctic elbow]

yeah, nothing special

That is the max. Damage i could get!

[mystic lagoon]

Oh, I did end up finding one

+15.83 / -22.85

Euclid

[silver topaz]

Nice

Nobody cares about royals anymore so that’s cool

[upbeat dagger]

I kinda still do. My Bifrost Key in my survival save is a royal, ivory white with gold accents. It's my scanning monster and shotgun.

[arctic elbow]

That is rare my friend! Nice one!

[pulsar charm]

Did they change the way royles mts spawn because as far as I'm aware they used to only spawn as C

[sleek basalt]

A class alien with pulse spitter, geology cannon, bolt caster, and some mining beam upgrades pre installed. (Euclid)

[dusky stump]

Hi guys ! I was wondering if multitools were procedurally generated ?

[languid surge]

Yes, in a weird way, cause they have coordinate codes in them assigned randomly

[amber pawn]

@dusky stump Yes, they are

[dusky stump]

Oh great 👍

[nocturne flume]

LF this SC slots arrangements for Sentinel Mts or Staves Highest base damage if possible

[lofty scaffold]

i linked one yesterday or something, scroll up

[nocturne flume]

Oh yea I saw it

is this euclid?

[lofty scaffold]

yup

[nocturne flume]

Okay thanks man

[nocturne flume]

jeez man this thing is dope

[lofty scaffold]

nah, square sc is the best 😄

[grave venture]

No…not for neutron cannon

I think that’s the best setup for neutrons

[lofty scaffold]

i think you haven't watched youtube 😄

[grave venture]

I think you haven’t done research

[lofty scaffold]

i'm just trolling

[nocturne flume]

Stop it man 😂

[lofty scaffold]

now go find 483 cross

[nocturne flume]

Yea idk just looking for cool sc slots 😀 and same kind of slots we talked about for staves

[upbeat dagger]

T shape is still king. Just hard as all getout to come across.

[lofty scaffold]

king for what?

[spice ermine]

those anyone have a a good multitool portal code

[mint wing]

LF red&grey royal or white experimental with good SC slots for scaning

[charred arch]

this is the most comical Multi-tool I have EVER seen

ITS SOO CHUBBY WHAT THE HECK XD

[lofty scaffold]

mine is cuter 😛

[naive walrus]

I just started echoes so to speak... from what i can tell, the color of the staff is based on the location I'm crafting in?

[sturdy quarry]

Yes

Also the parts

[naive walrus]

Gotcha! that was confusing for sure

Yeah now I need to find a radiant staff

[lofty scaffold]

crystals are so out of fashion this month

[naive walrus]

But it goes so well with my pirate RP !

[sturdy quarry]

As is Blaze Javelin

[sturdy quarry]

I used the Radiant Heart with the salvaged core and shaft. You get a little of both the wizard staff feel and the post-apocalyptic walking stick feel

[stone drift]

looks like that one staff head lol

[tardy atlas]

Do I have to assemble it or can I find the staff somewhere?

[upbeat dagger]

Blaze jav can be insanely good. Just gotta get it situated into a half-life looking symbol, or a T shape SC layout, and specifically with a focus on getting that charge up time maxed out... Toss on the paralysis at full charge and the bonus damage to paralyzed enemies... Bang. If it doesn't kill it in one, it pretty much always kills it in two. It's amazing for long distance single target takedowns.

But yes, overall, neutron is champ.

[nocturne flume]

For neutron cannon modules, if Ion Sphere Speed is lower it increases the damage potential?

192746.6 - 191464.5 = 1,282.1

It increased by more than 1k dmg potential

*Note: The other two neutron cannon are in max stats *

[pulsar charm]

You go to the location put in the specific top peace shown in the image then put whatever other peaces you want then assemble it

[tardy atlas]

And the color will be the same when I assemble it?

[pulsar charm]

Yes and the stats as long as you use the same top peace shown in the Image

No matter what other part you use on the staff as long as the top peace is the same in the image the staff will be the same color and stats

[tardy atlas]

So the glyphs I see are for the top part of the staff correct?

[tardy atlas]

Okey

[pulsar charm]

No

[tardy atlas]

Is it something that I find or that I can buy?

[pulsar charm]

Look I'm sorry I can't help you rn

[tardy atlas]

From the void mote shop

[pulsar charm]

Pls go get help from someone else

Im currently busy

[nocturne flume]

You can buy staff heads (other parts as well) in different autophage camps. They sell different parts of the staves and you can buy it using void motes. So if you are looking for a specific part of the staff, then you can visit different autophage camps to get one.

[tardy atlas]

Ohh ok thank you!

[pulsar charm]

Thank you so much for helping them I was busy spending time with my gf we were cuddling and getting ready for bed I'm going to sleep now but thank you for helping them

Much appreciated

[amber pawn]

@nocturne flume Not quite - all mod bonuses are calculated to 16 decimal places, whats displayed ingame isnt rounded, those decimals are simply hidden

So its not that lower speed raises damage, its that the hidden decimals on those mod's stats are much higher than your other mods

[nocturne flume]

Okay okay

Is having a lower Ion sphere speed better than having a greater value or?

@amber pawn

[amber pawn]

@nocturne flume Nope, more is more better lol

[nocturne flume]

Yea I get you. It's just having my damage potential increased by that lower value is so enticing

Thanks man

[amber pawn]

@nocturne flume My point is, the DP isnt being increased by lower speed, it's because of higher Damage/Charge bonuses

[nocturne flume]

ENJOY!!

Euclid Galaxy btw

[nocturne flume]

@lofty scaffold sadly, started as B class

[topaz sleet]

@nocturne flume

[topaz sleet]

I can't find anything at those coordinates

[nocturne flume]

uhmmm not sure about that anymoreee. I am sure that I gave the right coords

[topaz sleet]

Are there any requirements because I finished the atlas quest

[nocturne flume]

Have you unlocked the autophage quest?

[topaz sleet]

How

[nocturne flume]

I forgot the exact steps but I'll refer you to #nms-questions ill tag u there

[topaz sleet]

Ok thanks

[nocturne flume]

Double post SC slots - Euclid

[desert moth]

Does anyone know why the damage potential of this staff is so low in comparison to others? the three s class neutron cannon upgrades are supercharged in an L shape, and the A class upgrade is on the fourth SC slot. The staff was originally a C or B class, but was upgraded with leftover memory fragment (class) upgrades. All the neutron cannon upgrades have +1 spheres created and +10% damage

[supple flame]

Bring ur a class down 2 square to aligh to other modules to start with

[desert moth]

the a class is on a SC slot, bringing it down brings down the damage potential

[supple flame]

But its so alone. Its not matched up to any other which will reduce its potential

[desert moth]

that's not how that works, because of the SC slot

the configuration of neutron cannon mods in the first picture provides the highest damage potential. im just not sure why its so low compartively

[supple flame]

Ok not sure on that. Ive always found that linking the modules provides higher specs. Ok goodluck mate its beyong my current knowledge

[mint wing]

For max potential dmg you need max base dmg. 483.3 (only in natural S staff , not upgraded) need specific supercharged slot setup for best modules synergy. Also max stats S modules (X are worse for some reason. Bug or devs oversight)

[thick vine]

For the mining stat bonus of various multitool types, is the class bonus referring to damage to entities(how fast you mine), or the amount of resources given, like the Optical Drill upgrade

[amber pawn]

@thick vine Mining Speed

[thick vine]

Aww, that’s a shame. Also kind of weird, since I read on the wiki that mining speed is also affected by the damage stat, for some reason…

So the only thing I can do to maximize mining yield is to put the optical drill in a SC slot and surround it with the other mining upgrades

[amber pawn]

Technically, base dmg does affect speed - speed increases ticks per second, damage governs how much each tick hits for @thick vine

So high dmg helps mine tougher minerals/flora more quickly

[thick vine]

Ohh, awesome. Thanks for the in depth explanation

🙏

[lofty scaffold]

that is sad, also no point in upgrading them, only natural S can reach 483, upgraded ones are stuck with 433

[nocturne flume]

Yea I had the feeling that it would have the SC arrangement so I tried to check and sadly yea

[desert moth]

So the best bet for getting a staff with over 100k damage (doesn't need to necessarily hit +150), you need to find a natural s class staff, correct?

[mint wing]

You can hit 100k with upgraded staff

Upgraded to S 433 vs 483 natural S

[lofty scaffold]

you can hit 100k with pretty much anything, you just need some good neutron modules

[mint wing]

And someofwhat good sc slots

Like 3 together+1

Or 2 pairs

[lofty scaffold]

i think without sc slots its like 60k

think modules are the problem

[lofty scaffold]

can you show your best neutron module?

[desert moth]

these are the 3 I have. They aren't min maxed, but weren't too bad I thought

[desert moth]

this is my SC layout for reference

[lofty scaffold]

yeh, they are not that good charging speed can get to 50% and damage 14%

you can see the max stats for each module in Catalogue->Technology in game

and the sentinel modules are for boltcaster only

[desert moth]

I understand that they can be better, but could that little of a difference stat wise make such a massive difference in damage potential?

[desert moth]

That's a good point, I didn't know that haha. Thank you

[lofty scaffold]

all those high damages you see posted come from charging speed, its not "real" damage, but if you wanna see high potential damage get some 50% charging speed modules

[desert moth]

Holy shit, that's the first piece of tangible, actionable information I've reviewed on this topic so far. Thank you, that's actually insanely helpful

So with some 40-50% charging speeds, I should expect to see over 100k?

[lofty scaffold]

something like that

also you can save/reload on the space station to refresh the vendor stock, if you didn't know

[desert moth]

Cool well tonight I'll have a go at rerolling to try and get higher charging speeds. Thanks again for your help, really appreciate it

[timber palm]

A-Class Atlantid
Euclid galaxy
Precise coordinations on image
I also left save beacon at the exact spot

[amber pawn]

@mint wing @lofty scaffold Natural S Staffs assembled in Outlaw systems can roll any damage bonus, 416.7 - 483.3

[lofty scaffold]

i said can reach, i presumed that implied that it can roll lower too 🙂

[amber pawn]

Fair, but I've yet to see anyone mention there's a reason to confine staff assembly to regulated systems.

[lofty scaffold]

so you say only in Outlaw they can roll 483?

[amber pawn]

@lofty scaffold Not at all. I'm saying that natural S in regulated guarantees 483.3, in outlaw can be anything from 416.7-483.3

[lofty scaffold]

so the tradeoff is the rarity i guess

[lofty scaffold]

2 S class staves at the same camp, 483.3, purple, Eissentam, coords in the image, use havoc and radiant head, marked by yellow beacon

[amber pawn]

Potential research: Cabinet seed is tied to location, which influences the colours one gets through Staff assembly.
Hypothesis: It may be possible to correlate the first letter string in Signal Booster coordinates to colour combinations.

[still sand]

whats you guys max zapper power? 10k ? 15k ?

how high can it go?

i mean multitool , sorry

wait...is that whats burning me?

rofl

this is hawt

its not the multitool

what causes this? 🔥 🤔 🤣

[amber pawn]

@still sand ~190k seems the ceiling on Normal settings

[still sand]

oO

[amber pawn]

~50k with Scatter/Bolt, 42k with Pulse

190k Neutron

[still sand]

ha ha you do a 360 turn and theres not any flora left

sick

[vale jay]

orange and silver A class royal MT, Euclid
only one SC visible thou even after repair

[pulsar charm]

Thank you

[pulsar charm]

Are royals good? 🤔

[supple flame]

I like em

[spiral rover]

orange & gold royal A-Class MT in Euclid
same planet as portal at (-5.70 : +63:65)

[pulsar charm]

I am there but no camp. Do I need to do a mission first? Haven't played since singularity and haven't played since before the autophages

[lofty scaffold]

yeh, you need to have the autophage quest done, and do a scan when you reach the location

!Faq-Echoes

[chilly hill]

to view, enable Link Preview

❔ **Stuck starting the Echoes content?**

Make sure the steps below are completed.

⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.

1. Finish the Artemis Path (main story). Run !Faq-ArtemisPath in #bot-spam.
2. Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp. Run !Faq-Interceptor in #bot-spam.
3. Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.

❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44 & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.

📚 Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & friendlyfirepl

[mental thunder]

whats the highest base dmg multitools can be found at? Sorry im pretty new to my research

[vale jay]

they have the highest scanning bonus

[supple flame]

@mental thunder 400s plus

Some have been luck to find in the 483 range

[mental thunder]

ty

[amber pawn]

@vale jay @pulsar charm They share highest Scan bonus with Royals. But that doesn't affect how far you can see anything in Visor, nor increase payouts for scans; the sole thing it applies to is Scan Pulse, aka "how far away you can light up flowers".

[pulsar charm]

I can't even get my alien s class tool past 15k how come?

Damage

[vale jay]

!faq-multitoollayout

[chilly hill]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:NmsAtlas:972222451801010207> Synergy Layout for Multitool Tech

See image below »

Contributor: DHarhanWulf#3455

[vale jay]

and need better upgrades

[amber pawn]

So, uhhh, we may get to custom colour Staffs eventually - there's definitions for 5 colours from every basecolourpalette contained within the JSON for each Staff, and the same in CharacterCustomization MT slot savedata now....
<S Class Staffs all use 0x1 model seed, which explains why they always have identical stats when upgraded to S; Natural S Class duplicates the cabinet seed to use as model seed.
The other 2 parts have no effect on stats/colours because they're applied as descriptors the same way fauna parts are when eggs are resequenced for mutation.

[lofty scaffold]

i'm confused and i intend to stay that way

[lost moat]

Hesperus Galaxy Station

[upbeat dagger]

Now if I could just find exactly this, but in Deviljho green!

[amber pawn]

Update, it's more complicated than it initially appeared, which I'm surprised at being surprised at, lol. I was mistaken about seeds, the craftable head defaults to a 0x1 layout seed. I'm right about the custom palettes though, literally Primary + 4 Alt Colours per palette are defined in the JSON for every Staff - the model seeds on them are actually set to False (0x0) because all colours are being provided via custom override.

[carmine rock]

I got my first S tier multitool, it's an alien rifle (I think). Where do I get good mods for boltcaster and in general?

[lofty scaffold]

from the module vendors on space stations, normal ones for S class and outlaw ones for X class modules

[tardy atlas]

i just lost a staff with all my modules

and i cant find it under my other multitools

damn

[lofty scaffold]

time to find a better one 🙂

[tardy atlas]

now im unmotivated

[carmine rock]

Do they "restock" when I won't find anything good and reload?

[lofty scaffold]

the module types each have in stock can't be changed

you just need to find the ones that sell the modules you want

[carmine rock]

Oh well

Thnx for the info bud

[rotund pumice]

if you didn't saved, you can reload to the last save point (not auto save) and get back the item you lost by accident

usualy you save by exiting a spaceship

[lethal lily]

Question, how exactly to I obtain an S class staff? The 2 I've made have been C. Don't get me wrong they still blow the base attack of my A class multi tool out of the water 😂

[supple flame]

@lethal lily level them up

[lethal lily]

There's not a way to craft them? 😭

That's like a crap ton of nanites man

[spiral rover]

i think it behaves in a similar way to normal MTs: the camp where you assemble the staff matters first, then the parts come in

for example: #nms-multitools message

you need to go here, then use the parts mentioned

it has the highest chance of giving you a S class staff

[lethal lily]

Hmmm

Interesting

[supple flame]

@lethal lily yes there is. A few players have posted in here up a few msg on S Class spawning

[spiral rover]

those with the math can actually explain this better but that's all i know for now

just grab a lot of staff parts, then go to those camps and try

[feral heath]

Good evening, lovely people. Having a tool issue the wiki can't quite help me with. I currently have two sentinal tools, one a rifle type that I have now changed to be my pew pew death machine, and a sentinal pistol..is it worth swapping the pistol one out for another type with higher class? I'm not sure the two mining beams I have on it currently work in tandem

Or if I can get a better bonus by finding a pretty looking pistol and keeping that

[amber pawn]

@feral heath Actually, the Atlantid rifles hold the best mining bonuses

[feral heath]

Not found those yet! But it's not a detrimant to make a sentinal pistol my miner for now?

[amber pawn]

Nope, the dual base techs put them in 2nd, Pistols down to 3rd.

[feral heath]

Nice. So I have both the hijacked and the mining laser in the pistol. hope that was not a waste of a slot

[amber pawn]

It's the only reason Sentinel MTs can outdo Pistols for mining lol

[feral heath]

So the sent pistol was worth the headache, goood. ill just keep both then. One built for pew pew and the other the HARVEST

Might be worth upping the level of my current one then. once I can scrape up the nanites

[tardy atlas]

It was already too late because I didn’t notice it was gone but thanks

[glass sierra]

Finally got the Staff I've been after 🙌

[heavy tusk]

Is this in Euclid?

[arctic elbow]

Calypso

Same Planet

[arctic elbow]

Question: Is 483.3 Damage High?

On my Stuff i have also around that number but the SC Slots positions are bad so i don't get as high as the other Stuff. That is over 70'000

[lofty scaffold]

483.3 is the highest base damage

[arctic elbow]

Oh okay. Thank you!

[lofty scaffold]

all the natural S staves on regulated systems are 483.3

[north tide]

Co ordinates are -29,04. -94.61,planet is violossi

eissentam galaxy

[lost owl]

yes

[heavy tusk]

Thx

[lost owl]

hope it serves u well 😄

[heavy tusk]

😆

[mint briar]

good staffs?

[lofty scaffold]

imo there's no point in upgrading staves, they can only be 433 base damage, meanwhile on regulated systems you can find one natural S class staff 483 base damage in 5 terminals (more or less), unless you like the color for fashion

[proven bronze]

anyone knows where can i find a good atlantid multitool?

also, is it better to use a sentinel mt or a staff for combat?

[proven bronze]

that's some D R I P right there

[grave venture]

Doesn’t matter

[compact scroll]

B-class Alien multi-tool
Hilbert

[shell echo]

Do you use echo locators to find the staffs

I got 3

[frigid dawn]

You use echo locators to find harmonic camps, and you can make staffs at harmonic camps

[frigid dawn]

Hope it helps

[grave venture]

Looking for natural S-class Radiant staff with decent supercharged slots, colour doesn’t really matter but red/white/black would be preferred

[amber seal]

Anyone got something like this but for multi tools?

and if possible a parts chart for staffs

[grave venture]

#nms-multitools message

[gleaming stream]

Only in numbers format: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1044568385679282177/1146060777543970917/multitool_bonuses.png?ex=652e7fc6&is=651c0ac6&hm=389b830d5b3d2e2a8012d9eac6d10ff5f1b87dfb24f496844ecb77e2c8fbe40d&=

TLDR Sentinel and Staves have highest damage bonuses

[amber seal]

Hm

[gleaming stream]

Atlantid / Atlas MTs have highest mining bonuses

Experimental and Royals have highest scanning bonuses, which are useless in actual gameplay

[amber seal]

What do those looks like? Been a while since I played but I haven't heard of the Atlantic ones

[gleaming stream]

They were added recently with the Echoes update

https://nmswp.azureedge.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/atlantid-multi-tool-5-937w.png

[amber seal]

Wait are sentinel mts the exotic themed ones?

[gleaming stream]

No

[amber seal]

Lemme see

[gleaming stream]

Those are Sentinel MTs
https://nmswp.azureedge.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/sentinel-multi-tools-2-520w.png

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[amber seal]

Huh. Never seen them before

Top one is a rifle right?

[gleaming stream]

Added this year with Interceptor update

Dont think of them in terms of rifle / pistol

Size has nothing to do with it, they get only bonuses from Sentinel type

[amber seal]

Two handed then

[gleaming stream]

Uhhh

Actually not sure

[amber seal]

Nah it's just for the feeling

[gleaming stream]

Smaller is one handed

[amber seal]

To me my fighting multi-colored should be a two handed

[gleaming stream]

(dont ask where to get a white one, this is a mod in action)

[amber seal]

Ok then

Man I really need to grind the main story so I can get those glyphs

[vale jay]

sad.. I was totally gonna ask about that xD

[grave venture]

Where can I get it?

[mint briar]

so about staffs

is it better to get an A tier then upgrade to S

or just go straight for S tier

i'm running around pirate dissonants system across the core of the galaxy

also anybody have coordinates for an S class terminal with blue colors and yellow secondary

in either Euclid or Eissentam

[grave venture]

Only natural S class staffs can have 483.3 dmg potential

And natural S staffs in non outlaw systems are guaranteed to be 483.3 dmg

@mint briar

[mint briar]

So what about S class staff in outlaw system

I've been farming it there

[grave venture]

They can spawn but not guaranteed to be 483.3 dmg potential

[mint briar]

Is that the base dmg with only boltcaster

[grave venture]

It’s base dmg with only mining beam installed

[mint briar]

Is that the dmg with all the bonus accounted for

[grave venture]

It’s the damage that shows on the “Damage Potential” bar with only a non supercharged mining beam installed

[mint briar]

Oh

People doesn't seems to be posting alot of staff terminal position and color

Oh well

[mint briar]

Also do a combination of head+ terminal produce the tier of the staff or it's just the terminal deciding it

[grave venture]

Head and terminal

[mint briar]

Oh wow

They really gotta amp up the difficulty with both head,terminal and color huh

So different head on the same terminal produce different result

Also do the color stays the same for every head

[grave venture]

Yes

[mint briar]

Bruh this is gonna be a tough shit to categorize

[grave venture]

Each terminal gives each head a set seed that determines
Stats
Class
Slot layout
Colour

Maybe more

[mint briar]

Really amp up the "procedually generated" game

[plucky vault]

Has anyone seen a terminal that produces a full radiant heart staff with blue crystals and gold staff? Kind of like this one I have but with blue crystals?

Or even the opposite, gold/yellow crystals with blue staff?

[scenic pumice]

I mean its ugly but look at those SC slots 👀

[feral heath]

.. That is a cyber p90

[scenic pumice]

24 C class multi tools and just got a single A class, finally

atlantids i mean

in an outlaw system

[feral heath]

I need to snag one of those soon

[lofty scaffold]

these are good to scrap daily for slots

[mint briar]

is this top dog A class staff

or is every A class staff stat like this

[viscid cosmos]

I was at my first space station and found this

[scenic pumice]

which one is better 🤔

craap this one isnt bad either

[sturdy quarry]

They all have that dunce cap on them

[scenic pumice]

dunce cap? Lmao

[lethal lily]

Would this be worth upgrading?

I'm in love with the design and it has 3 SC 2 of which are adjacent

Took forever to find 😅

Wow got it to 22k

[fringe girder]

what are the chances for different classes of multitools in outlaw systems?

[lethal lily]

Idk abt the multitools, but if it takes after the ships, it's 85% C and then 5% for the rest

[mint briar]

Uninstall everything but the mining laser

And see the base dmg

If it'a sth like 430 ish

It's giod

[grave venture]

Reminder, going for max damage staffs, ALWAYS go for natural S-class staffs in systems that are NOT Outlaw systems

Those are guaranteed to have max damage on all natural S class staffs

[viscid cosmos]

Look at this cool s class I found on a space station

[quasi pagoda]

I'm both stunned and SO happy! This is the first time I've ever come across a royal multi-tool. Finally I have one, and it matches my ship that I found last week. 😍 😍 🥹

[mint briar]

Also how do i get royal multitool

Gonna collect one

[eternal flame]

holy shit that looks so cool

[quasi pagoda]

I got mine from a Sentinel Pillar, also got lucky

If you get your hands on a Sentinel Boundary Map, it'll take you to the location where you can find one of these beauties @mint briar 😄

[quasi pagoda]

(10th galaxy - Eissentam)

[lethal lily]

It's only 416

How much of a difference will that actually make in the long run

[lofty scaffold]

no difference if you just wanna play the game, massive difference if you wanna minmax and get big damage numbers 😉

[lethal lily]

Yeah but how much of a damage difference will it make is what I mean

[lofty scaffold]

i don't think anyone bothered with theorycrafting that, i personally only take 483.3 base damage mts (which is the best base damage), i simply ignore all others, also a big difference comes with what modules you have and how the supercharged slots are placed

looking at some old tests i did the difference in damage between a 433 base and a 483 base with same supercharged slots configuration and modules for neutron cannon is like 20k+ potential damage

(also i'm talking about staves and sentinel mts here with have the same and highest damage of all mts)

[lethal lily]

Oh wow is that the potential number or what it actually hits for

[lofty scaffold]

potential number

[proven bronze]

should i look for s-class multitools or is it worth upgrading them (examples like sentinel or atlantid MTs)

[lethal lily]

Well right now I have 23k potential on that

The A class

[lofty scaffold]

natural S staves on non outlaw systems always have 483.3 base damage, and you can find one in about 5 terminals

imo better spend some time searching for one then investing in an A class

[lethal lily]

The hardest part is finding an S class that actually looks good

From what I can tell C-A are based on the head, and then for S you have to change up the other components

[lofty scaffold]

the head dictates the class

i usually just go to a terminal, try all 7 heads, see what i get, move to the next one repeat

[lethal lily]

Ah interesting

Because I probably visited 15 terminals yesterday to get that one

No S

[lofty scaffold]

also try to search in 3 stars economy

chance for S class is something like 1% in 1 star, 2% in 2 star and 3% in 3 star regulated systems

[proven bronze]

question: is it efficient to have one multitool for each purpose (eg. Sentinel/Staff for damage, Atlantid for mining, Royal for scanning)?

[lofty scaffold]

that's how i have them cuz you can assign keys to them and easily switch them as needed

also this way each type can benefit from the supercharged slots

[proven bronze]

ikr

[lofty scaffold]

welcome to the singletool team then 🙂

[potent nimbus]

Uhh I'm relatively new to the game, which damage augments/weapons would be good to tackle sentinels. I have a boltcaster with a B level upgrade that gives it 2-3% stat buffs. I also have a Blaze Javelin

[rotund pumice]

boltcaster with forbidden modules and S class mod is a good all around weapon

if you want to obliterate stuff, a barely upgraded pulse spitter is nice

[potent nimbus]

Oh alright, are they available on the anomaly?

[proven bronze]

Nope

Anomaly has C and B class upgrades

S class can be found on space stations

X class (or forbidden) can be found on outlaw stations

Speaking of modules: are the ? modules worth using?

[lofty scaffold]

modules are for boltcaster only

[proven bronze]

and exosuit >_>

[proven bronze]

wait rly

i never knew

I HAVE BEEN WASTING SPACE ON MY DAMAGE MT FOR NAUGHT >_>

[lofty scaffold]

sadly yeh

[proven bronze]

reeee

[woeful crypt]

Anyone have spots for S class staffs ?

[compact scroll]

B-class, blue and yellow, rifle
Hilbert

[safe quail]

Why only 2 SC slots?

[sturdy quarry]

Why so cropped?

[sturdy quarry]

Sometimes you have to use multitool expansions to see the other ones

[safe quail]

oh so they can be 4th row and below

[sturdy quarry]

They're on rows after the first 3

[safe quail]

That's what I was worried about

[sturdy cypress]

is this an experimental?

looks weird

[amber pawn]

@sturdy cypress rifle, large

[sturdy cypress]

ah okay

[pulsar charm]

Where would a sentinel fall under?

[sturdy cypress]

sentinel multitools are their own thing

[pulsar charm]

Ok

[amber pawn]

Yeah Sentinel, Atlantid, and Staff all predate that image - havent bothered updating it because the main point was to show the difference between pistols and rifles, lol.

[scarlet marsh]

I have a Royal in a goldish colour I stumbled upon. It’s excellent so far but I have only just started toying with a setup for it. Likely use this one with Pulse Splitter top tier and Not sure what I want as a secondary other than possibly keeping a possibility for mining and cloaking.

Meant to identify I got it in S class

[pulsar charm]

Actually there is a updated version I have it somewhere

Just got to find it

[grave timber]

what happens if I install the ordinary Mining Beam on Sentinel or Atlantid Multitool that already have their dedicated special mining beam?

[dry lichen]

Dunno, try it and report back

[grave timber]

this post says their mining power (dmg) and beam visual effects combine. I'm not sure about that, just put it on for adjacency and haven't really test it yet lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/12fxjwu/2_mining_beams_on_the_sentinel_multitool/

but it uses the name and the charge from the ordinary one.
The cloak function from the Runic Lens still usable

but for Sentinel, it uses Hijacked Laser instead

note that the ordinary laser is NOT uninstallable once installed

[amber pawn]

@grave timber Their damage does combine

[pulsar charm]

If you have a both the sentinel lazer and the normal one combined I found that the amount of time it takes for the lazer to overheat takes very very very long to overheat

Like half an hour if you have the right upgrades

It's ridiculous

[tepid summit]

Wait so is Sentinel better for mining than Atlantid?

[amber pawn]

no

[frosty dome]

Does anyone need money in Nomen Sky, or an exotic multitool, or a cool ship?

[trail forge]

What type of tool do you find in the camps in dissonance planets?

[floral pivot]

sentinel

[mint briar]

Sentinel tool,basically the highest dmg multitool

Tied witb staff

[trail forge]

Having the two super charged slots some what close is really good yeah?

oh wait what, I unlocked 1 slot next to them while installing my boltcaster and It's also supercharged

Okay I lucked out big time wtfffffff

[spiral rover]

sentinel S class, eissentam, +31.69 +74.79

[open tusk]

Are the suspicious mods better then s mods?

[sturdy quarry]

They range from worse than C-class to better than S-class

[open tusk]

Thank you

[chilly hill]

@sudden swift Please use this command in #bot-spam.

[mint briar]

Basically right next to eachother mean you can supercharge 1 tech more,

For multitool that's prob better

But for ship i like more balanced out stuffs cause there's alot of stuff that need boost

Engine,hyperdrive,shield,gun,etc..

[junior cairn]

where do i get better wizard staves

[forest escarp]

sometimes yes, usually no. Their possible stat pool has a higher max, but a much lower bottom. As such it is a gamble. I find it takes roughly 20-30 tried to get a really good X class upgrade.

[open tusk]

Thank you so much!

[tardy hemlock]

A-class Royal multi-tool. Eissentam Galaxy.

[grave timber]

Is currently Rifle Multitool technically the worst type?

[grave venture]

Depends on your play style

If you like fighting, no

If you like mining, yes

[lapis crane]

What’s the the best multitool type for damage? Alien?

[grave timber]

as for now we have Sentinel and Staff for dmg (Alien works too with a bit lower upper limit), Atlantid for mining laser dmg, Experiment and Royal for scan radius

[grave venture]

Staff or Sentinel

[lapis crane]

Thanks!

[young vigil]

Do the staff multi tools still always upgrade to have the supercharge slots in the same places?

[grave timber]

from some guide videos I guess it's up to the head and the terminal you assemble them

like you need to use which head on which place to get the SC slots stick together when upgraded to S

[boreal obsidian]

So for staff supercharge slot placements, every single location you can build a staff at has a different color/layout/class for every type of staff head. So, for example, using the runic staff head at two separate camps will result in staves with different base class levels, supercharge slot locations, colors, and pre-installed tech, but if you share the location of one of those camps with others and they use a runic head at the same terminal, they'll get the same staff as you found.

[feral heath]

Alien pistol tools mine better than two laser installed sentinel pistols, yeah?

[amber pawn]

@feral heathNo, you're confusing size with type. Alien pistol = Alien smg = Alien rifle for stat bonuses.
Pistols used to be the best Mining type, but now Atlantids are best for it followed by Sentinel MTs.

[feral heath]

Ah ha. Gotcha. Keeping my sentinel rifle for pew pew, shall see about finding an alien rifle for mining

Eventually, no rush if the one I have is still fine

[young vigil]

Yeah what I mean is that it used to be the case the sc slots that the staff started with were dependent on head and terminal, but the ones gained from upgrading were always in the same spots. Is that still the case or did they fix that?

[boreal obsidian]

If I'm understanding your question correctly, SC slots should always turn out in the same spots for the same multitool, ie, getting a staff with a particular head from a particular terminal should always yield the same results when upgrading, unless you mean that staves in particular would always upgrade specific slots regardless of the staff, which if that's the case I've never heard of that bug or run into it myself.

[plucky vault]

Question about Sentinel rifle Multitools. Do they only come in this color palette?

[heady pond]

Yes both models (rifle and pistol) do not vary in colour or design.

[plucky vault]

That's both good and a shame. I won't have to hunt down a specific color. Just s class and SC slots. Thanks

[arctic elbow]

Only A-Class but good Supercharged Slots and i like the look! Galaxy is: Zicniijinis

[arctic elbow]

Very nice! I think i will take a look. Thank you!

[grave venture]

Try upgrading to S and see where the last SC is

[spiral rover]

adding galaxy name, glyph and coordinates would be very helpful

[grave venture]

Can you give glyphs, terminal and galaxy?

[frail musk]

B class upgraded

[native comet]

This one looks outstanding to me. Are these atlantids?

[frail musk]

75k nanites

Autophage staff

[amber pawn]

@native cometyep

[grave venture]

I assume it’s Euclid

[jolly vigil]

How do i get a staff?

(sorry im dumb)

[spiral rover]

complete the new Echoes quest

run !faq-echoes in #bot-spam

[jolly vigil]

Ah okay

[spiral rover]

after that a few more steps and you should be unlocking the new Autophage race too

[arctic elbow]

Yes!

[scenic pumice]

Yup. It’s in galaxy 199 tho

[scenic elm]

Any tips on how to find a decent multitool? I lost mine because of a bug

[past ferry]

What type of multitool are you looking for? Combat, mining..

[scenic elm]

Well preferably one for mining

[grave venture]

Atlantid it is then

Go to a tier 3 economy/outlaw korvax system, find monolith, hope it’s S class claim it

[heady pond]

Atlantid is smexy, just consult potato chip

[scenic elm]

Where can i see the tier?

[scenic elm]

That look wild

[heady pond]

Thank you it harnesses chip power so it is in fact the best by default 😂

[proven bronze]

i harness the for my guns

[heady pond]

😱 blasphemy against chip

[proven bronze]

atlas created chip tho

[grave venture]

I harness the power of black hole

[proven bronze]

> black hole

[native comet]

Man. What do these look like in your characters hand? I wanted a staff, but it clips badly into the short body.

[pulsar charm]

Wait does the staff change size based on the players height

[fickle cairn]

Probably ,idk but I can say if Ur in Vr u hold the staff like a bazooka

[tepid summit]

Pretty cool Atlantid, Euclid

[native comet]

Are there any experimental weapons held in one hand like a pistol?

[sturdy quarry]

Like an experimental pistol, perhaps?

Yes

[native comet]

Oh excellent! So they DO come in one & two handed variants

Assuming the stat distributions are the same for both?

[sturdy quarry]

That, I'm not sure about

[amber pawn]

@native comet @sturdy quarry Yes, the only difference is starting slots, much like system vs capital freighters. Pistol-size starts with something like 15 or 18 slots max, Rifle-size up to 24, iirc.

S-Class Alien Rifle, Experimental Pistol, and Starter's Pistol, Euclid galaxy

Left side is an Experimental, right is a Pistol type

Mint Green Experimental Pistol, Euclid galaxy. (I swear if this doesn't work... lol, that's it, there'll be swearing)

Yay!

[native comet]

Oh these look great!

Thanks, gives me hope

[amber pawn]

@native comet If you don't mind that it wasn't a natural discovery, there's this'un we used the bot to locate by request.

[native comet]

I'm kinda big on finding everything I use myself. I appreciate the help tho!

[light widget]

err, guys, a little help pls

[mint briar]

Experimental pistol looks goofy ahh tbh

[light widget]

so, I found my staff, it was only a B class so I felt a little twitchy, but I wanted the color

did place a save beacon next to the craft station

but later I removed it, kinda an ocd 'no loitering' thing

had the coordinate in my notepad file

and then I forgot to save...

[mint briar]

Ehh

[light widget]

sooo

[mint briar]

Nobody can help you there bud

[light widget]

I kinda, yeah, want to find that station again

but been strolling through like 50+ autophage camps

[mint briar]

Best bet is jut find a new one

[light widget]

and it has yet to lead me back there

[mint briar]

Don't think they lead back to the same camp twice

[light widget]

*sob, it's an oversized planet so...

eh I just kinda wanted to save it for friends

wouldn't mind diggin the game code but I guess it's gone then

thanks Blitz : (

[mint briar]

If you just want the color and S class

And don't mind A class tier staff

Try a pirate system

[light widget]

oh I don't, that staff was a B one originally

I took the gamble, when I saw the slots I was like 'oh, gotta save the coord'

and then I forgot that notepad doesnt have autosave feature 😂

[vivid sleet]

i would recommend next time you screenshot planet and coordinates that way beacon or not, you can always make it back

[obtuse bane]

I didn’t know this was possible even. Must be extremely rare!

[lethal lily]

After about 8 hours of searching camp after camp for the perfect multi tool, I give you this absolutely stunning natural S class!

3 adjacent supercharged slots, with an extra!

Glyphs and coords 😄

And a little peek at the inventory 😉

[amber pawn]

@obtuse bane Fun fact,the absolute rarest multitool variant is a basic Rifle with 3 Crystal accessories. (magazine, foresight, and dual crystal barrel sight)

2nd rarest are Pistols with Crystal magazine + top & side accessories of horn, spike, or crystal in any combination.

[lethal lily]

The white and orange is kinda hot 🥵

[hexed vessel]

Is this a separate weapon or what? I'm not so sure what this is

[grave venture]

Yes

[feral heath]

First royal tool! where's that pinned post...

want to see what they're best at

[grave venture]

#nms-multitools message

[feral heath]

was peekin' 'em. looks like my new A royal is better than my C sentinal just in general

[feral heath]

Oh, small question about this infographic, what sets the min-max?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1044568385679282177/1146060777543970917/multitool_bonuses.png?ex=6537ba46&is=65254546&hm=f867de20d5d8c0e956d1e6d602a5093899138c7fc0c418ea6af1402434becace&=

pff.