#nms-multitools
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i dunno if this was stated yet, but Atlantid multi is amazing for mining, i just tested it on my Runaway Mould farm and i got double the amount i was getting with a Sentinel multi
Yes. Each mt type stats are in pins
No reason to have pistol or rifle now stat wise. Monolith for mining, royal/experimental for scaning, staff/sentinel dmg
Well. Maybe if you own the rarest rifle with crystals.
hey guys if i try to get myself an atlas multitool i cant find the place to put in the atlantideum do i need to do some quest line or?
I think Royal Multi tool is no more spawning
I guess I leave the hunt for Royal Multi tool and go for experimental for Best scanning bonus
we need more multitool slots. 6 ain't enough
Bigger number
You must have completed the new quest, then you must visit monoliths in corvax inhabited systems. That should be everything you need
the autophage quest line?
Yep
alr
Well its not insta, but neutron cannon feels really good now
But the numbers themselves are kinda arbitrary
Ok was curious because I watched the video of the dude with a 130k neutron and I noticed I was killing at the same rate with the about 30k neutron that I had
has anyone seen a gold/yellow black radiant staff
I’m sad
I found lots of good ships and multitools the past couple of days, but for some reason, the in-game screenshot (not the steam one) gets sent to my files instead of Steam like normal… and erases the glyphsnin the bottom left corner
So now I lost several good ships and such, especially since I put a communication ball instead of a save beacon down (I can’t see my own communication ball icon, idk if that’s normal or no)
Luckily, one of the multitools I did find is on my home planet, and I put a base with a label, so I can get those glyphs pretty easily. It’s an A Class alien, and it looks quite nice!
I'm just getting to the staff part of game.. to find more parts do I need to just keep going to camps and hope I find something? Cause my staff be looking like a 1985 metal detector. And do they always craft at a C class or with they craft higher eventually?...... thx
they craft higher
Yep visit camps to find more parts
Nop staffs come in different classes
hey, where can I get the multi-tool that looks like a pulse rifle?
If you’re talking about the atlandtids, make sure you’ve finished the most recently added race’s quest. It’s pretty simple to obtain from there
is there a quicker way to get faction quests other than doing x1 faction quest, then doing another straight after?
Destroying pirates, gifting relics. Other ways too IIRC but
I think freighter expeditions can also give rep
i found one with a golden ball and some golden elements, but thats it
Anyone got a chart for the staff parts ?
dont you have the scanner?
I’m more meaning the looks of each staff part
Pins
Thank you kind entity
Do different camps have different staff cosmetics? If so is it based on anything like who controls system?
Its just random
U can gather everything on one planet actually
hello I am looking for multitools and staff if is possible only in white/silver and golden colors, I only have ships in that colors and I want to match them
i just discovered ( no idea if its known) that salvaging staves gives Rebuilt Exosuit Modules (the new modules), so if you don't wanna grind Void Motes, you can just craft a bunch of staves, with the default blueprint parts and salvage them.
Dont you need void motes to get staff parts tho?
you learn to craft these from the quest
they are crafted with regular mats
Anyone know coordinates to a planet with a terminal that has an S class staff that uses the Concentric Transducer head? (Base head)
(With a base or comm beacon or something there.)
It's a rifle
Ok thanks
It’s a good class, but not many slots :/
not yet. ill be back 
I think it would work well early game though
ya
?
idk i still have my stuff
because its early game? i mean this is first good weapon i found my secon space station ever
how did you get to another galaxy early game? The expedition?
Wait how did you get to a new GALAXY if you’ve only discovered two systems?
i mistyped
I still havent with 230+ hours
Oh
whoops
You meant system?
ya
its confusing XD
Anyway yeah the multi tool should be good for quite a while before you get one with a lot more slots
In the expedition the featured bases are in different galaxies, so it is possible
Oh
Looks good for 600k. Will be a lot nicer than what you have
I usually try to go to features bases, but I never get there
Yeah
Ye 600k is cheap and its better
the price is mostly for slots. its expensive to add more
not really worth it to start from less than 30ish tho
oh, i dont have as much, probably around 5 i am saving for a staff
help whats supercharged slot?
It increases the capability/power of a technology or upgrade on it A LOT
its the glowing slots. They add to the stats of whats in it
Use it wisely
recommend meeee what to do
wait. did u not leave ur galaxy bc u didnt want to or bc u dont know how to
or miner. Not much combat eraly game and mining faster can be nice
Yeah that’s a good idea
in early game anyway
That’s true
plasma launcher is fun. hihi
I forget to use mine :(
my most hated friggin weapon is the plasma launcher haha
so advance mining or plasma?
i die when i remeber to use mine
i got an A class upgrade for plasma too
Put the regular mining beam on the supercharged slot
Just change it’s spot
You can move whats already installed. you dont have to build new stuff
ah i thought its permanent
Put your cursor on it, and it’ll show how to move stuff
you can also package it and put in storage or on another tool
So you can move stuff from your old one
Nice :)
If you think you’ll use it
its a bouncy grenade
i saw gameplay looked fun
And it sometimes bounces back to you
Oh no
rip future me hehe
install whatever looks fun. Dps doesnt matter in nms
I killed 5 waves of corrupted sentinel on the expedition with a c class rifle. just took longer
I find corrupted sentinels super annoying, not hard
paralysis grenade just stun locks everything
I forget to use mine, even though it’d be super helpful against hardframes
amino chamber where to buy?
You can upgrade a multitools slots
To have more
Just letting y'know
yeah I do that a lot
But it’s hard to get new slots early game, it’s quite expensive
Multitool upgrade modules
Oh yeah
Short answer on the anomaly in the very back room
You can buy it as a blueprint
which site or app
Downloaded the no man's sky assistant app
I can give you a link to it if you need
please do
thanks
It also has a fiction that allows you to imput the number of solor panels you have in your base and it will calculate how many batteries to solor panel ratio you need
I'll share these findings (the same stuff you've shared in video) here again @wraith whale
First image: Natural body colors.
Second image: Natural head color.
Third image: Complete staff color based on head color.
Fourth image: Natural staff class.
Fifth image: Head removed, natural body color changed.
Sixth image: Head reinstalled, natural head color changed, entire staff color changed.
Seventh image: Class change to one lower.
After this either exit out of the terminal to restart the assembly to make the natural A class, or in some extreme cases reload the restore point again.
the second one is based on location. I put a video here a while back
you dont even have to remove the head. Any part works
@shy jolt I sent it to you in dms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YuW6CqueEc includes recreating the location based one
Saw the video... this method is absurd. It HAS to be a bug.
What the heck.
might be intended. doesnt look like something that would just happen by itself. maybe it was for debugging and they forgot to disable it
Most of that matches what I've found out by experimenting as well (tho I hadn't noticed the class dropping). But I've seen cases where the swapping also increased class compared to the 'natural' class - to me, and I'm not very sophisticated about MT spawning rules - it appears as if the entire seed, class included, for the second+ staff (after part swapping) was being determined by the player position.
This makes no fucking sense whatsoever. As Bliss said, this will completely destroy sharing staves.
not really. The first one is consistent
Hmm!
Hmm!
Is it possible that the code is messed up in such a way that, after part swapping, it confuses the player position with the machine position for the purposes of generating the MT 'location based' seed?
and maybe you can even share the location based one. Never tested if it works accross players
that was the best theory I could come up with after experimenting last night (the stuff demonstrated in the video)
Because of the .exe nature we cannot look into the code itself but the JSON edit for staves is a bit different from other multi-tools.
Yeah, this cannot be intentional. Changing player position should not change color and class of the staves.
Madness is fun
"Spooky science".
I'm not denying it exists but I'm not going to acknowledge it, or work on it anymore. Let HG fix this mess first.
noo. Dont fix the fun
Love your pfp also if what you guys have discovered about staffs this is going to suck for everyone playing won't it
suck? Why? Way easier to reroll instead of going to 100 different camps
I think you get what I'm saying about the location seed stuff yeah? That has been a thing in MT spawning rules for a while, at least theorized... the thing that gets overwritten by upgrading class with nanites
But sharing the class of a staff will be impossible won't it
the first one can be shared
and the color
Yep!
and everything else. I got like 30 different names/seeds out of the same part combination by slightly moving around the machine
and maybe even the second one. Dont think anyone tested that yet
at that point it is just chaos.
But this is very bad.
But what about the color will the color be able to be shared useing coordinates and glyphs
its absurd.
In my test moving back to the same spot fully recreated the staff
not if the player didn't know enough not to hot-swap parts without quitting the machine interface entirely
and very few people will know enough to do this before sharing
but yeah, players will need to be aware that only the first one is shareable. And no one knows that now
So
so make it public. so either it gets patched or everyone knows
Very few players will experiment with staves.
This staff won't be able to be obtained
you need to list the parts too
I was banging my head at that stupid crafting machine for days trying to explain why I had managed to turn a C class staff into a S class staff with 3 minutes of difference between attempts
Yes I know
it was the stupid position, because I was in a storm and had to move to shelter to recharge hazard
For me it was a consistent result of A turning into B, and B into C.
I mean if you tell me the parts, the glyphs and the coords i can go there and see if i can make the same one
But I did not even pay attention to my position. Like...
here's when I went down this rabbit hole:#nms-questions message
Holy wow!
Ok
Yeah! I call BS on this silly mechanics. It's broken.
try using parts that are sold there because i dont have them all
Here is one
Damn there is no glyphs
it wasn't even a different color to at least give me a clue. I wasted so much time trying to figure out wtf was going on there.
I feel sorry for you, friend entity. I do use the staff as my main tool now but these are some of those triggers that really irritate the crap out of me.
inconsistent data bugs the shit outta me too
Will you be able to at least share the color of a staff if you give someone coordinates to a specific machine that gives the color to the specific parts or is that broken to
That being said, here's my staff.
as long as its the first combination of parts that you insert into the machine after opeining its interface it should be reproducible
if any parts need to be changed, you need to quit the machine menu entirely before changing them
or the results won't be shareable, that's the basic gist of it
Oh ok so if I did swap the parts then exit out after it will reset it again
yeah, you have to close the machine entirely, then put new parts in, and never touch the parts again - that result is shareable
then if you wanna test a different combo at that location, quit out of the machine, open it again, put new parts in
Ok and the players position won't effect it
nope, not for the first combo you put in
ye. first one is always the same
Ok but the second one if I exit out of the machine completely will the second combo be repeatable no matter my position
that's an extremely unnatural way to use the interface, so I strongly suspect most staffs being shared now will be impossible to reproduce
?
yes
Ok
its not the first in history, its the first combo for that opening of the machine interface
Lets give an example: lets say I wanna try a radiant - radiant - radiant staff. I open the machine, put the 3 radiant parts in.
but then I wanna try a havoc - radiant - radiant
If I take out the radiant head and put the havoc head, that wont be reproducible
if I quit the machine interface entirely, open it again, and put a havoc head - radiant - radiant in, that can be shared
makes sense?
right
the position only matters after you swap one part for another
or as @tough remnant discovered, you can even 'swap' for the same part to make the position matter
its not the swap. its the preview
like take out radiant head and put it back in
as long as you dont press assemble its fine
right
I mean, I get how this can be handy to force a color that you like or whatever
This is a very very broken game problem
but at the same time it'll make sharing locations a freaking nightmare
you guys dont like fun 😦
I don't like game breaking bugs that make it nearly impossible to share discoverys especially in a game made for exploration and sharing worlds and discoverys
This pretty much breaks staff sharing
And probably most likely
My staff glyphs I got from people
Are broken
there's a high chance of that yeah

because I don't think most people would think that its necessary to exit the machine each time you press preview
its just quicker and more convenient to preview - change part - preview - change part
oh, third part was a S class, lets share that
Ok the discovery you found should be pinned in this channel and there should be an explanation to it so people know
it wasn't me, it was some random reddit dude
Also this should be put in yt
This stuff is just ridiculous though
Hg made a big oof

Well it really wasn't in their control
But
Still
Wtf
actually a lot of credit goes to @tough remnant since they were the first person to bring up the random reddit post on the help channel
I wouldn't even have opened reddit if it wasn't for that
Oh
its kinda weird that with all the yt videos on crafting staffs this isnt common knowledge
like none of the people who made videos tried to test anything
I'll leave the youtubing for the youtubers, I don't even speak english so I wouldn't be much help there lol
someone should ping Xaine about this tho, everyone would know about it within hours.
Hbu ping him
don't know the dude, not even sure if he's in this discord
his last message here was in 2018
i joined his discord and posted it there
Ah ok
anyway i made a staff with coords and all
Perfect
Since you guys know more about this glitch can you give me a repeatable red and crystal with black body staff
What does a full crystal part bodyed staff look like
radiant set?
Yes
you can check this pinned message to see what all staff parts look like (and the names): #nms-multitools message
(larger resolution when opened in browser)
Can you show me what this combo looks like
radiant heart — radiant chamber — runic beam
i am off the planet now. so not in a while
Can you show me what this combo looks like
radiant heart — radiant chamber — runic beam
i wonder if there is a website for that
sure, only this once so you can see where the shaft ends and the chamber begins, then if you need more combinations use the pinned thing and combine the different parts in your head. :P
Yeah it sucks I play on Nintendo switch
So I can't do this stuff yet
ah yeah, nintendo is really taking their time with this update
Also god damn that thing looks immaculate
Just like I wanted
Hot dang

Now if I can get it in red and black when I get the update
I'll be set
Red crystal with black body
That would look amazing
I've seen red and grey but no red/black yet
tho the parts that are silver in that last picture would still be silver I think
I have seen red and black before
One of these I believe
Wait
..
I didn't realize
I already had a pic of the combo I wanted

happens :P
Anyway all I have to do is just go to that terminal and use that combo
Or find one of my own that is actually red and black
And not red and grey
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The grey black and red crystal actually looks dope
It looks like something darth vader would use
Probably the coolest combo I've seen
And the funniest is the head peace that is a robot head
That shit is hilarious
may I ask is there a difrenece between finding an S class multitool? or upgrading it to S class? aside from money
nanites
and if it is S you can see all the superchared slots
Anyone got glyphs for a black and purple staff?
thank you
I'm in the only one who pictures darth vader using this staff
for the staff hunting I know that its random for color, but do any of the piece combination cause a difference in damage? or mining?
The color is not random it's determined by the terminal and what head peace you use if it's for instance a radiant heart peace for the first peace and the terminal gives it the red color any peace after that will follow the color of the first peace and if you put in a different head peace in the terminal it will give a different color to that head peace make sense?
So does this method grnerate infinite possible colors?
ohhhh ok, gotta work for a black and blue if possible, thank you
no. i think there is a grid size so its limited.
but it might be 0.1u grid with hundreds of options per location
I see so i need to move around a bit to get another color
I wonder what will happen to staffs generated like that when (if) HG fixes it
man i got like 5 full-red but 0 full-yellow
Lmao I feel that I get bad luck like that all the damn time
nvm i hit smth even better
A yellow lantern is what you are
Isn't the yellow lantern the lantern of greed
no yellow is fear
orange is selfishness/greed
Has ANYONE found any royal multitools? Been searching for days and I cannot find one, even with coordinates
Green = Willpower
yellow = fear
red = rage/anger
blue = peace/relax
indigo = mercy/forgiveness
pink = love
orange = greed/avarice/selfishness
black = death
white = life(and gives all the colors powers
did you make sure you were in singleplayer(multiplayer turned off)?
Yep I always play single player. Apparently other people on reddit are having issues so I thought I'd ask here.
sorry if its not the multiplayer it might be spawning location
you said even with cordinates?
Yes. Even with coordinates.
like you go to the galaxy and the location where an S class multitool should be is empty? or with different class?
Different tool. It's always some normal multitool. Never shows up as the royal ones.
wish I knew sorry chief
Save on a different planet then reload on the other planet go back and check the terminal if it isn't there do the same thing but on another planet
Does this really work? I've tried a lot of things to get it to spawn
Iirc if the cabinet spawns royal, it spawns royals for any planet load
So if u didnt mix up the galaxy, its probably just another bug and it should be reported
But they aren't spawning royal that's the thing. I actually found my own tools, uploaded the coords to reddit, tried those same coords after echoes update, tool is completely different
!hg
You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Report and hope for the best
Yes but if you didn't know a royal multitools spawn is determined by what planet you saved and reloaded on
They fixed interceptors, maybe fix this too
Just letting y'know
Just like normals, ye.
What i mean is its either all royals or all normals
For one cabinet, that is
Nope not true actually I have found systems were it's half normal half royal
And it's not a bug
Was it after echoes?
Way before
Before interceptor
And it's been in the game for a long time
It's not a bug
Hmmmmmm
Maybe my info is outdated
But it would be weird
Coz its a major change for hunting that would cause a ruckus
I was in a system once and reloaded on a planet with a royal multitool in the terminal for the sentinel piller and it was royal but not the color I wanted so I whent to a different planet I saved on a different planet reloaded my game on that other planet and whent back and it wasn't a royal multitool at all it was a pistol
Did it again but on a different planet it was a royal again but a different color
If you don't believe me, go look at one of hero2u's royal multitool videos or posts on reddit and try to find one. I bet you won't.
Did it again on another planet it was a pistol
Welp i guess it really changed at some point
Some systems are actually all royal
Im seeing a lot of such comments under those locations videos, dated a year ago
Damn u HG

just got s class staff from reddit
@onyx jolt I only now realise that I have misread your question. I thought you were looking for atlantid multitools. Sorry about that 
however, just in case youre still interested, heres what i found:
this you would find by warping to this system in euclid, saving and reloading on "Ahoka something", and then hunting on "Afford Bizen"
Has anyone found a system with a royal multitool since the update?
I've been trying to get my hands on one, but none of the systems I've tried so far (all known royal systems pre-Echoes) have worked.
You may not have helped who you intended but you have helped greatly
I heard a recent patch was supposed to bring them back, but I still can't find any.
I’m not sure if I have the coordinates for a sentinel pillar that has it. will try to check.
Nothing. It would be no different than using a save editor to generate random seeds. The seeds generated with this method (which can only be assumed to be a bug) would still be seeds that the game can read even if they fix the generation method. An easy non-theoretical example to point to was when interceptor spawns had been accidentally changed by HG when Echoes launched.
The interceptors found between Echoes and the patch that fixed the messed up interceptor spawns, that were already in players collections/ship inventory, looked exactly the same before and after the patch, but going to the planets were they were found, you wouldn't be able to find those interceptors there again, the ones in world now look different. I'm flying in one of those right now.
@soft bronze post a picture of the multitool here (take a screenshot from the video or whatever)
cool I'll see if I can find something like that.
Thanks I appreciate it!
got 3 or 4 with black crystals instead of blue. I take it you prefer the blue?
I definetly like blue but if it's good it's OK I don't want you to go crazy over it
I'll dm some options
Can I have the coordinates?
bro this was my next step, thank you i will def go pick that up
does anyone have an atlantid multitool?
glyphs?
Maybe a stupid question: But how do you increase multi tool tech slots? only via pruchase?
You can buy slots at the terminal, but also there are upgrade modules you can occasionally find like the ones for ships that can be traded in for a slot on them as well
@vernal mauve
you can get them everywhere
just go into a korvax system, use the exocraft radar module that lets you scan for alien scructures
and go to it and claim urs. you will need nanites tho and a bit of atlantideum
bro thanks btw it was the one i was looking for
eh
the floaty bit doesnt fall off?
what's the address for that multi-tool?
T Shaped Superchargers Staff-EUCLID-
Color: Red
YOU MUST USE RECLAIMED HEAD
With Coordinates! +12.59, -136.27
There is a Save Beacon and Comm Ball to Help Guide You!
This Starts as a B Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
YOU MUST USE RECLAIMED HEAD
EUCLID
Enjoy!
Hope you know about the newly discovered bug that completely breaks staff sharing someone found out that if you create a staff in a terminal and you hit construct then stay in the menu and switch things around aor make another staff without existing out of the menu completely it will bug and confuse your players position with the terminal position readering the staff you just created unrepeatable and impossible for others to get
Just letting y'know
If you didn't know then probably all of those staffs you sent in the past and now are broken and do not work
Me bliss and sotiac talked about the bug
@glad wren Here is so more information on the staff glitch that breaks staff sharing
No, this statement is incorrect.
This has been an issue since Interceptor was released.
Well, I don't know what's been an issue since Interceptor but this issue is specific to the staff crafting machines, so it cannot have existed since interceptor. The tl;dr is that only the first combination of parts 'previewed' by clicking assemble in the staff crafting interface can be consistently reproduced. If one backs out of the preview (without leaving the staff crafting screen entirely) and then any parts are swapped, further previews are apparently being generated based on the world coordinates where the player is standing, rather than using the machines position (as would be the case with a regular cabinet) - demonstrated here https://youtu.be/Gn4XONoNmR8 by making an ungodly number of different staff seeds, at the same machine, with the same part combination, by just dancing around the thing.
Yes, I completely understand.
I have seen this happening since Interceptor was released.
I have seen this 100s of times
At first I thought we could change stats and class with other parts than the Head.
No, I have Hunted 1000+ Staffs since Interceptor was released.
I have seen this from day 1
Staffs only existed in the game after Echoes. The interceptor update was months ago.
Not enough coffee yet.......☕
You are correct, since Echos
alright, I was really confused, i thought you had some information about this happening with other types of multi tools lol
thanks
No, sorry..........my bad 😳
Does anyone know where a purple/black staff is?
With the chrystal on top? I have the parts I just want to find a camp for it
Idk if the name changed or not but here are both and it’s in the first Galaxy u enter
I found the staff but some dumbass did that for whatever reason-
Forgot to upload…
Have fun
Awesome thank you
No problem! Everyone needs a sexy black and purple staffs :3
49.987 damage bonus S-Class Sentinel pistol.
+43,94/+139,32 Eissentam
Are royal multitools spawning at all right now?
Are the locations for them just scrambled or are they just straight up not spawning?
I want to go looking for one myself but I don't know if it's a waste of time or not
Which multitool do I use for scanning and mining?
Sentinel Pillars are the only places where royal multitools spawn. they’re kinda rare, not all pillars have it.
Right, but they're supposed to be broken in some way right now.
Sorry re editing
Pistols be better at Scanning
but alien are even better at scanning
Atlantid be better at mining
sentinel and staff be better at attacking
The locations that used to have them don't anymore, and nobody has mentioned seeing one since the update.
On here or on Reddit
Would an Atlantid S-class be decent at everything?
they do have less damage potential kind off
I've just been using a stock multi-tool but it's s-class. It seems to work fine so 🤷♂️
true a full S class multitool can do everything
is just that the advantage does better apparently
How do I find discordant interfaces?
I haven't done any autophage stuff, I know absolutely nothing 😂
well before that you need to finish the Artemis story
then you can do autophage stuff
Ah, that'd be why 😂
yeah they are blocked cause story reasons
and while we could speak of that i rather not spoil
the fastes way to get them staffs is to finish artemis
I'm currently being an indecisive idiot and trying to decide on hunting for a nice resurgent class freighter (which I've been doing for four days) or just building a base on a nice uncharted paradise planet.
I say first the freighter free energy for farming
leave a base computer and tele in the planet of your choice to come back to later
All the resurgents I've found have looked a bit ugly. Lots of yellows and browns and not much in the way of nice color contrasts. 🤷♂️
Good to know about the quest stuff though for the multitool :)
yeah so first finish Artemis then you can do the robophage stuff for them staffs and atlantid multitools
reminder that staffs and sentinels do the most damage
I think at some point HG changed the randomisation seed or did something to the galaxy because the old coordinates from 2 years ago don't give the same results. Black and blue freighter was actually grey and brown.
well freighter color is no longer an issue since you can just paint them after purchase so now type of freighter and size is all that matters
Does that matter much? I'm not a PVP player so I really only care about the resources and scanning. Although I guess I do need to shoot sentinels sometimes too.
just saying in case you are after damage
also cause staffs loook cool
But the recoloring doesn't recolor some parts of the ship. It's kind of bugging me. Apparently the landing pad and... bridge, I think, don't get recolored.
They do, yeah, haha.
the bridge and landing do change color if I'm not mistaken
it just takes time to load, or at least that's how it went for me
Huh. Well, that's good to know! I'll have to test that.
I guess now I work on a freighter and then progress the story and THEN get my multitool. Thanks :D
I forgot you also need to finish the mission "A trace of metal"
which first needs to have a settlement
I have no idea if that's completed.
ok like a checklist
- did you get a settlement?
yes or no?
Not yet no 😂
ok once you get one you need to talk with Iteration Tethys
this guy
after which later you get attacked in your settlement by the sentinels(don't worry you only fight like 5-7 drones
win and then tethys calls you and says "hey get over here I need help" and you start the quest of "a trace of metal"
you even get a flying drone called laylaps9he fights sentinels and scans stuff for you automatically
and also tethys helps you so you upgrade the Minotaur mech so its even more powerfull(more damage, stun for sentinels, and better mining) plus has Ai so it will defend you from the sentinels if they attack, and wildlife(the abominations)
then once you finish that you need to finish Artemis and then the autophage, to have robot DRIP, and staffs if you want
is there any point to multitool scanning range?
Or even mining speed at end game?
I think i get all my stuff from extractors now.
also, it seems that the scan range for a bunch of stuff is fixed to 400u
Like all the hotspots
the scanning range increase is noticable since it naturally makes you more aware of what's arround you, plus I do believe It goes further than 400U
plus now with the autophage update the scanner should be increased to max to reveal the autophage completely since any outside the area will remain invisible
imean if you want to unmask them from 2k u away.
And i am not sure it works. i have a feeling that the unmasking range is much smaller than scan range, but didnt test it
Yeah I definitely need to stop duplicating resources and items and start using auto collection and just make a big factory
i find mining multitools still useful for Curious Deposit farms, for nanites, and Radiant Shards, you can just jetpack around and mine them while flying, and Atlantid ones are just stellar at it
This makes me realized chameleons look stoned out always
Looking for a good radiant staff that's yellow, blue or white
Why do i all of a sudden se so many S class of these
are atlas multi-tools monolith-specific or does the same one always appear regardless of location
All monoliths on the same planet should have the same model with varying classes
They obey standard mt rules with monoliths acting as cabinets
Are you in a 3 Star Economy system?
nope
Outlaw system?
Love your outfit
Might be a long shot but has anyone ever seen a black staff with yellow accents, or a black staff just in general?
I have dark grey with yellow #nms-multitools message
But i got it using this player position bug, so its not quite reproduceable
Pure black i think is not natural
i kinda needed few tries to get all same components S class staff in menu its kinda unseeable thru menu so its like this
turned out nicely
Eissentam galaxy (-15,54/-70,94)
How do I get the monolith tools from said monolith? The purple terminal?
From the monolith terminal with glyphs simliar to portal one. You need to give 3x16 atlantideum to charge it.
Just wanted to thank you for posting this. Its near perfect with the colors I normally use on my exosuit
has anyone found a white and gold staff yet
can you find prebuilt cool staffs or do you just make them in the customize option thing
also s class mt’s do they have more inv space?
and is it possible to find an s class staff already? or do u have to manually upgrade them
- u just make them in the customize
- not always, you can upgrade the spaces
- yes
3 do u mean yes on finding them or yes on manually upgrading
cuz I got a b class staff rn w 30 slots but i need more
if possible
making them
Can customize the colors and stuff too or is it just the parts you can switch?
the staff?
Yeah! Sorry if it’s a stupid question idk how the staffs work
if u make it with a certain terminal, it will create a certain color
if u go to a different terminal, it might be a different color
so its not like customizeable, its more like, finding it
Ok thank you 👍
Im a big noob but where do i get a S class multi tool and which is the best
Randomly, and it depends on your usecase
Best for combat is the staff or the autophage guns, which you can find in harmonic camps, which you can find in dissonant systems.
Best for mining are the atlas multitools you can find on corvax world alien monoliths.
Best for scanning are experimental multitools that you can find on space stations and minor settlements.
4.44 update: Fixed an issue that could cause Autophage staff assembly to choose an incorrect seed for subsequent creations after cancelling out of the preview of the assembled staff.
booo
Not cool Hello Games
That may just mean that if you remove a part of the staff after viewing it that it won't downgrade it like it had been known to do
the second+ tries were based on player location. it wasnt downgrading, it was rerolling a new staff
Did owned staffs created with this bug remain the same?
They should. its in your save its not seed based anymore
Well HG has history of changing owned royals so...

I'll check when i get home, but i hoped maybe someone has checked already
afaik only ps5 is actually updated now
What determines the class of a Staff MT
the head and the vendor location
Eissentam if anyone is after a red staff
Man, cant believe how lucky I got, literally the first location I checked for the new fancy looking multitools (not the staffs), I found an S class.
Do we know what the new facy multitools are good for yet?
no worries
Also uh, how does one go about linking locations? I wanna make sure others can get the S class Atlantid if they wanted.
maybe just screenshots of the location and portal co ordiantes and what galaxy it's in? i don't do much posting but that seems to be the general format
Gotcha!
also a screeshot of the multitool and slots
awesome find
euclid?
Ah, forgot to mention the galaxy, its Eissentam.
damn
Usually there's a featured base in the anomaly in eissentam
its also pinned in this channel.
sorry didn't realize only new here
Do you have glyphs to this
No, but I would be willing to trade it to you
You can't trade multitools
Inst this the new update?
You can scrap then in new update
You can not trade multitools but you can scrap them at the anomaly
Yo, do multitools get better stats as a natural S class rather than an upgraded one? Kinda like how starships do
How good is a royal multi-tool? Just in general? I know it's got 100 scan? I think? As the max.
I'm not sure if scan, mining or damage is important to me, or rather, which of the two is.
Not the best damage but i love my lil potato chip
Ive been told theyre not better, but rather have higher stats on average. So they should be equally good, one is just more likely to be
No multitool type is better in scanning than royals, and experimentals are equally good. For everything else a different type is better
how much scanning they got?
100 should be correct. I dont know exactly what that equals in distance, but ive heard something about 400u
Here is your comparison in stats if you want to compare.
how you reach 2k scan xD im at 900
even with the scan in supercharged im at 1600
X class, and the two new tech pieces from the autophage questline
oh XD yeah my 3 x are low on radius
Haha yeh, gotta work on the damage tho, i bet if i actually used S class Neutron cannon modules it would bump up to a broken amount 😂
yeah but compared to staff and sentinel MT its nothing xD
Haha yeh, they are utterly broken, the S class modules for a neutron cannon can offer more to damage potential than X class even tho the stats on the X are considerably better, but hey that’s just HG being HG
yeah the charge time is usefull too
but i need to go see that chart with % upgrade again
i thought 15% was the max ?
for neutron cannon
or 14%
Yes 14 for X and 10 for S
hi
a quick question
does all multitools of the same type and class have the same stats
ie 2 class A rifles will have same base stats?
no it varies a little but i nerver realy look at stats, i think supercharged slot emplacement is better than having a perfect mt
4 close is good enough, if you try to find a square you will go crazy xDDD
in game catalogue says S mod for neutron cannon has max 15% max but i never got one, and i went through a lot of them
anyway once you get it upgraded, the game is super easy, even on the highest difficulty everything will die in seconds no matter the gun stats or supercharged location
i never got higher than 14% 😦 and i bought alot on x tech
oh s class
for X it says its 12% max
think its one of the few mods if not the only one with S better then X
thanks for help
yeah all my x are 12%, but
that 10% charging time
more *
less *
xD
its almost instant with 3 near 30%
S gets to -50%
what xD
yeh
i need to go buy s tech then lol
man the wiki is lying again then xD
use the in game catalogue 🙂
Interesting, I’m still reluctant to change to X but maybe temporarily
Catalogue & Guide -> Technology
you can find there all the mod possible max stats
since its in the actual game i consider it the most legit info 🙂
yes xD
except the part where i never got the 15% damage lol
why are the tech guy so far from the prtals xD
the bad thing is that you can only buy 1 at a time 😐
compared to X that can get up to 3 buys
yea and theres that guy that sell package too in same time
to farm nanite
pirates station are awesome xD
infinite universe, one mod in stock 🙂
and S mining has the same mining speed 20% with X
S class mining beam is one of those low few that is better than X in most cases
i also noticed that some stats on the mods are rounded up for display, but the supercharged slot does the math with the real number behind the scenes
like the mod has 10% Cold Resistance and 10% Heat Resistance, and when supercharged its 37% cold and 38% heat
Where'd you get this? Do you have the coords?
Oh that one was you, okay
Cool
best one i could find on this planet there was 2 s class but the supercharged were far apart
oh does the sentinel weapon tech affect pulse spitter ?
Doesn’t look like it does
Aren't sentinel mods generalized to all weapons systems?
so only boltcaster 😦
They just don't synergize with anything but each other
but when i put it near the boltcaster it show the contour color
like the bonus
but not the other weapon
Oh hm.
yeah they synergize with only boltcaster thats why i was asking
Hey all, just assembled my first staff multitool from the echoes update. Can someone break down how colours, customizations, and class work for these?
class is which head part you use in a certain terminal i think, like crystal head will always be a ceertain clas in the same terminal
Interesting! Like, the head in relation to that specific terminal? Or is one head just superior to the rest?
yes head is in relation with terminal,, no head is better than others, so if you find a terminal that give s class with the head part you like
it will always be s class with that head part
and other part dont matter
so you can mix up the core and bottom part
the head type decides the stats outcome, the other 2 parts are just decoration
yeh, color is terminal since yesterday patch
like crytals head and other part part
and the rest of the staff was a different color
Awesome, thanks for explaining. It all feels so mysterious to me so far. Lol
thats the best part 🙂
Ha, it's fun, but confusing!
anyone want some godlike multitools?
yeh, its a bit different then just grab the tool from the locker
if so just dm me with stuff you want and i get it tmr i go sleep
i can even get you sentinals
Does anyone know where i could get an all white with red details staff? Class doesnt matter i can upgrade it
i can try to tmrw
?
I know but i look at the tip of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dTorP_CYE&ab_channel=HeRo2u its more grey and red with other part 😦
oh yea thats grey
Yeahh i already got this one its not white enough lol i saw a screenshot with someone who got a super white with red staff and i wish i knew where they got it
i saw someone with a all white and red tip giving out alien eggs in anomoly
and then theres me giving out 200+ starship AI modules to randos which is alot of money
Damn
i still have like 20k
How
scrapping 10000 ships xD
Duping
nah
Mhmmm
didnt think you could dupe
Lmao ok
You can
Never knew or tried
how to get this? answering monolith?
Question about the staff, do the different staff parts affect its function or class?
If not, then how do I get an S class staff? Is it by going to specific terminals?
I think the general consensus is that people are finding the coolest looking staff they can and then upgrading them at multi tool terminals
Ah, fair enough. I'm still curious as to what affects a staffs class on assembly though
I think it’s completely random
One build might be C at one terminal and S at another
My main question is if the terminals themselves matter, like one terminal wiill give S classes while others will give As
I guess I can test it out myself though, thanks!
Each terminal will provide a different staff for each head, the other two parts are purely cosmetic. If you have a staff head you like, each terminal will alter the color, class, SC locations, and pre-installed tech/class, so each planet has many different potential staves.
class A atlantid. Ebyeloof galaxy 🙂
…red…and and and black?!
I’m getting that for sure
Ah so the terminal does affect both visuals and class? Cool, thanks!
Sorry to nag you again about this, I tried putting those coordinates in euclid, but it leads me to a different planet
Yo fellow human people, anyone know of a autophage camp with a red black color scheme for the runic core? And preferably at a reasonably high class. A or above
How do you get these Atlantids? I’ve not seen instructions anywhere, and the game certainly doesn’t show you
Korea’s monoliths, the purple terminal
I also want this information
Korvax monolith. charge it with Atlantideum.
I was literally about to ask 🤣
Yeah, autocorrect isn’t cultured
The worst villain 😂
Amen
Monoliths have a little spot where you can charge them with Atla-whatever the hell, do it and you can get the funny multitools out of them
Thank you though!
If you're in Eissentam, I posted the location to an S class in this chat yesterday.
Lemme see if I can spell it from memory of misspelling it:
Atlantideum
I think I got it???
Hot damm that is correct!
🥳
Imma go to this super cool looking monolith I found on my new idium mining planet to see what I get lol
(Photo already in photo mode gallery)
That is, if the icon is still there; I took away the save beacon
Actually, are monoliths the same design for the entire planet, or do they change? I don’t go to enough monoliths on a single planet to know
I think there are different designs in each planet, maybe. Not quite sure myself, I never paid attention
Oh btw, multitool colors and type aren’t for the specific planet but for the system
So if you find a one you don’t like, warp to another
Bruh quit reading my mind because I was just about to finish typing the question 😂
Lmao
So that’s why I could hear my scientists thoughts about cleaning my windows
Hahahaha
These autophage modules go crazy
🤣
Anyway. Hopefully I can find my Red and black staff
So is there only one design per system?
Ok thank you
Kinda like how interceptors work
Ok, thank you. I wondered since I’m not seeing a ton of variation in Atlantids (enough to make ‘em fun to find but not like normal mts )
The sentinel Rifles (aka the harmonic ones qwert mentioned) or the Staff multitools.
The Sentinel Rifles look cool, but the pistols are so sad
Yeah kinda like those boxy interceptors
They look trash
But the rest are leaking radical amounts of swagger
Damm, I found a Red and Black Staff location, but its C class
Can anyone else try these coords to check if Im just getting them wrong?
If I can’t get answers from anywhere else, best believe I’m copping that
Hopefully I can find a higher class on the Reddit
Would you mind sharing ?
Umm, I may or may not have assumed no one woud want it and forgot to mark it...
Im sure I can find it again, or another.
Nah that's fine... i'll check on the internet
So I did some testing, and yes, monoliths are unique to each planet, so each one on the same planet has the same design. And Atlantids also appear to be the same at least to the planet, but I didn’t have time to test if they’re unique to the system and not the planet
That being said, I found a really cool looking Atlantid on my indium mine planet. I could only do two as of now, so I’ve only found B Class (idk yet if you can get varied classes or not), but if you’re ok with spending money to upgrade it and perhaps find your own monolith (the first one, which I put a save beacon by, has a supercharged slot but less damage than the second one)
However, it’s all black, so if this works for you… feel free to visit!
Also plz don’t judge my alien multitool- I found an A Class version of it so I’m working on transferring the tech from the B Class to the A Class lol
You can absolutely find ones of same design but different class on the planet.
Thats how I found my own S class
Sweet! Gotta go hunt for it because this is actually a sweet looking atlantid!
So… same planet, same system… but slightly different Atlantid than what I posted above. So maybe there is more than one per system, but perhaps it’s with minor differences.
This one is a B Class, but as soon as I find even just an A Class of either Atlantid, I’ll post it here.
Kinda prefer this design to the other one lol
How do you get all these? I stumbled on mine from an alien telling me my old one was garbage
Only boltcaster
Its N+1 per system, where N is number of planets
Same as for normal multitools
For this u have to try different locations, yea
Atlas multitools or multitools in general?
Multi tools in general
I only got the new one I got now cause an alien took mine, threw it, and gave me a new one
cabinets at space stations, beside multitool upgrade vendor
cabinet at space anomaly, beside multitool tech research terminal
cabinets at so-called "minor settlements", u can find them with green maps
sentinel MTs are at dissonant camps
staffs are at autpphage camps
atlas MTs are inside korvax monolyths
BRO i did a korvax monolith and got a free multitool but it was like "you see your mirrors multitool, it looks better than yours" it was worse in every way 💀
been kinda foolin around with atlantid multitools. was trying to see if a blue version of the atlas symbol existed. seems blue ones dont get that. closest it gets is the shape in either black, bronze, or theoreticaly gold like the other gold pieces but with a blue line running across the middle. all 3 colors have their own unique attachments. but the blue one can get gold/bronze versions of its attachments.
example:
S class sentinel multi tool for anyone who wants it.
relatively close SC slots
comm ball on site
(Euclid)
Couldn’t find a staff but got this. Also don’t bully me. I’m lazy
i didnt know multitools could get like teeth on em thats epic
Might not be the best topper, but it beats my old multi-tool in stats and style.
Very nice!
I have a red radiant staff, and I'm trying to get a black and purple runic one.
I feel like we all use the runic core though. Just looks too good.
has anyone come out with a list of topper colors?
What is portal code to it?
it is possible with json editing (i did this) but you might be disappointed cuz crystal wouldnt be black. it would be grey with little black details. i think it is caused by crystal glowing, which prevents it from being full black
Can I have glyphs and coordinates to the terminal you used to build that staff
Sorry, dont have one. Forgot to make screenshots.

Shit
I really like those colors too
I'm planning on doing this myself and making a coordinates list and everything
How do you guys farm staff parts?
Most people use a well known duplication glitch that can dupe any item in game

But then you just get more of the same item right?
I mean yeah but think about it like this if you have 1 of every staff part you dupe every staff part you have
It's that easy
anyone want glyphs and coords? not sure how common this variation is but i think it looks dope
i also posted this in #nms-spoilers message
scrapping atlantid multitools gives void motes
whats with hijacked laser?
is it meant to be a weapon thing, or just a mining thing, and whats it do different
it's a mining laser
pro-tip: put a "regular" mining laser next to it and it'll work like an extreme upgrade
okey
is that red or orange?
hard to really say. Looks very red in some lights and very orange in others. Probably because it glows.
how are you guys monolith hunting btw? is there a scanner upgrade i'm missing? I want to start atlantid multi tool hunting
I should mention this is in eissantam
Well that works because I’m currently in eissentam as well
It’s on the 2nd image, bottom left corner
do I need some missions done to get atlantid MT?
or can I simply go to location and claim it?
There are some missions required to be done first.
is it "they who returned"?
That is for the staff.
I believe for Atlantid MT its Traces of Metal and the Artemis mission
The mission where you build that little sentry.
Best is to google it, thats what i did.
Just to make sure, you know? 🙂
!faq-echoes
to view, enable Link Preview 
Make sure the steps below are completed.
⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.
- Finish the Artemis Path (main story).
Run !Faq-ArtemisPathin #bot-spam. - Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp.
Run !Faq-Interceptorin #bot-spam. - Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.
❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44 & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.
i'm having a really hard time deciding over these atlantid multi tools...
they all look really cool
GUYS THE HEAD ACTUALLY DOES AFFECT STAFF RARITY (And it also varies per terminal)
Just went to a location that SUPPOSEDLY had an S class staff terminal, got to the terminal, could not get an S class but by swapping out the head of the staff I was using for another head, I got to choose between C or S for my staff
Your Staff head actually matters, If you're fishing S classes buy a bunch of different heads
Diferent heads of different types
One radiant, one havoc, one runic, all gave me different multitool classes
oh yeah, pretty sure any piece you change can affect class
Im not so sure about any piece, from my experience it seems like what matters is the head. Ill check to be sure though
So how equipped head affects spawn chances? Sounds like it requires more testing
Yeah no from what I can tell, only the head affects the chances. Im gonna test something else though...
Okay, I can confirm: The head of your staff is the determining part of the class. I went to a location I found on youtube where someone got an S class staff, I used heads that they didnt use, got no S class, swapped to the starter head which is the one they used, got the S class.
Every terminal has a list of what class to assign to what staff head.
And the other parts dont matter at all
Ooh! That's nearly perfect! Thanks 😄
You looking for lighter or darker? I’ll let you know if I find anything else
Not sure if there other purple shades besides that... but if you can find one with different body colors, I'd appreciate it
Anyone find any Havoc staffs with white & blue?
I’ve been running around for a while now
Oooo! Might swoop in and snag that! I’ve been looking for a purple and yellow staff!
Aj, im pretty sure the location of the purple staff I showed above was actually a blue/white havoc as well.
Are suspicious modules better than s class or nes
really???
im gonna go check that out now
tyvm
If it’s not there it’s definitely somewhere on that planet, which I suppose doesn’t help much but it’s a start 😂
it's blue / pink 😢
same spot is this sick runic staff
too bad it doesnt go with my character 😿
that was my mistake, I mixed up havoc and runic :/
if anyone wants red/white radiant
Does anyone know if Atlantid multitools vary by planet or by system?
Anyone have a known green crystal/black staff terminal for radiant? I don't care about class.
Vary by planet u loaded at
Does anyone have glyphs and coordinates to a terminal that gives a darrk grey almost black and with red crystal top
I'll definitely let you know if I find one
Nvm I got it
thats sick
Are you all just buying all the A and S class tools you see to salvage for slots? Seems like it’s significantly cheaper than buying the slots outright
when you have 4.269 billion ion think it rlly matters tbh
I do not have 4 B 🙂
I need to set up a gold farm etc but have not on this save yet
Gold is the worst thing to sell instead salvage interceptors and other ships trust me it makes good bank
Gold is also not bad for passive income. There is a lot ways to make money to fit everyone preference
You can turn your freighter into a flying weed farm like I did
Also
I am prepared for every situation possible
Also if you guys want the staff I got hit this up
I get gold going, then I start on ship salvaging
hi!
I'm fairly new, is there a way to get a staff in expedition 11?
Ok I just found a absolutely dope atlantid multitool
Its red and it's just
I'll be sending here in a bit
Oi
White and gold Atlantid in Euclid, save beacon at the point. The planet also comes with a giant worm lol
Only B Class but hecking damage
