#nms-multitools
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You do missions for the new race to get the currency to buy the parts.
yeah, new currency
Oh dang so what all is there
There’s like 7 different types you can make
And you can interchange the parts
I personally go full runic because of the necron staff
Oh dang so I could do like some really neat stuff then with just staffs
Any benefit over the actual multi tools like slot wise
They're multitools
So just a different style
yeah i think so
Hmm alr thanks I appreciate that
Can you upgrade the class of the staves?
Yes
Aight ty :)
I can feel the pain from here my friend
yeah that's why if i find something interesting, i quickly screenshot it
helped that i did it while hunting living ships b4 i hunted these staves
Found a Black Atlantid Multitool With Blue Accents, Euclid Galaxy
So I could’ve sworn I saw something in the patch notes about being able to sell and/or scrap multitools. Yet when I went to a space station, I couldn’t see it. Did I misread or is it elsewhere?
it's in the anomaly
it's next to Tethys
Oh thank you!
so @granite orchid and @glad wren the head does influence the class. on that particular camp we were talking earlier, the runic head is a C class, but the other two are S class
also, do we learn the other parts BPs or just the voltaic, and always purchase the rest of them?
you learn voltaic and can find them in the shop as well
but you only learn to make voltaic, everything else is bought
gotcha. thx for the info again
@pulsar charm bro you just need to buy all the attachments then you can build your own.you got several combinations you don’t need the glyphs just interact on the computer camp you can make your own I was just showing the colors combinations
Yes, what Head you use to make the Staff does affect the Class
@glad wren 👍
Now if I can only figure out what affects the Supercharger Seeds. Right now they seem to be fixed, in the same slot at all Camps no matter what parts I use
Bro the color is what I want the color is linked to the specific camp and terminal itself different for every terminal
I want the coordinates to the specific terminal you used to build that one
Euclid. +52.43, -55.48
@pulsar charm ohhh got you .yes I have the glyphs bro but unfortunately not home will send you msg when arrive and pass you that 😉
@pulsar charm send you private msg 😉
Is there a black staff?
Which multitools are the best for each thing now?
S class staff Haydes Galaxy.
What's the Class?
What do we know exactly about staff crafting so far???
Full black&blue euclid -41.29 -82.29
I was wrong. I just found an S Class with Big Boi Damage Potential at 483.3. I need to check a few things but a post will be incoming.
DM me if you want the info before I post it. I need some time to verify
Oohhhhhhh
If this is big boi damage then bonus rolls will be same as sentinel
The one I found is 580 damage. Is that better?
Yo what? Base S class damage?
Remove all the weapon mods then see what the Damage Potential is. That will be the Base DP
Very nice find by the way!! @hollow stirrup
Thank you. Just 1 hr of jumping around in the planet.
I did know you can scan in same planet again and again until you see a class you want in the terminals.
Scan?

Different locations for the hidden camp on the same planet
Yes I use the scanner we use first to find the autophages to find terminals
Ahh yes, but you can change the Class of the Terminal by using different Heads to make the Staff. The one I posted above requires a Radiant Heart for the Head. Using other Heads give c, b and a classes
Ok maybe I am not into that part of the quest yet, staffs having a head is a thing?
Yes, you need 3 parts to construct the Staff.
As far as I can tell each part, Head, Core and Pole each have 7 different versions
That is cool. So i still have blueprints to discover is what it is.
Bro I need all the info on this!
Hit me a dm
Incoming
Thank you
is there a minimal class for staffs or am i just lucky to have A-class staff as first one?
What Head you use to make the Staff will determine what Class it is.
As far as I can tell, it differs from terminal to terminal
Sorry for not having the location of the gun but if I can grab it’s code from that one save editor I can paste it in here, but for now I found this randomly in eissentam
Is it true that interceptor ships seed changed ? So finds before update are worthles now?
Yes! We get to start anew!!! 🥳
It really made the utubers mad though
But its only interceptor type?
I would wait before deleting. NMS has a history of fixing this problem in a few days after a patch breaks them
Yes, it seems so
After some time when pepole will figure out the class mechanics it will be easyer to get one with S class
Anyone found a Antlantid MT that resembles thr Ikelos Shotgun?
Not suprised. All the time and effort down to drain. It also makes discovering and shareing things useless since seed would change anyway.
looking for a staff terminal where the head piece for the "relic" set is green/black. (eissentam). ill be out searching so lmk if theres a type youre looking for too
If you hit the Deny button during the construction, you can return your materials to your inventory. In the Drag/Drop menu that comes up
i did deny but the parts can only be sold for regular units
not my precious void motes
They should really pin this.
Not the heart, the thing at the top of the chain there.
Or at least SOMETHING like it
@glad wren how much progress have you made so far? Any update on the base damage potential or are you still testing some things?
From what I understand the terminal is acting like a multi-tool cabinet with the same mechanics of class range, spawning pool and related things. The head is seeded to be class and seller locked, such as that particular vendor on that particular planet will always have the head that will always be a fixed class and fixed damage potential for that head seed.
The class we end up creating is now dependent on two things. The terminal's potential to spawn an S class staff and the head's seed such that:
- If the terminal cannot spawn/create an S class (natural A class terminal can create a natural S class multi-tool, natural B class terminal can create a natural A class multi-tool, so on and so forth) staff no matter if we have an S class head seed we cannot create an S class staff.
- If the terminal can create an S class staff and we don't have an S class head seed we cannot create an S class staff.
- Both the head seed and the terminal must be able to end up being S class to generate an S class staff.
Is there any stats info for two new multitool? Do sentinel multitools still have the max damage?
Yes, apparently 483.3
Same as sentinel
But we are still in the experiment phase before we can come up with a final, definitive answer.
The 483.3 damage is correct. You must use the Radiant Heart for the head part to get an S Class.
So all radiant hearts can potentially become an S class, 483.3 staff?
Sure? Must use the Radiant Heart?
If so then we have a go to head.
Any other head can't?
what's the best blackmarket stats for a neutron cannon upgrade?
The rings one (starter) will create an S class on a particular terminal coordinates at a particular planet in Euclid galaxy.
seems very convoluted
Seems like any head can be S class at right cabinet
Multi-tool spawning mechanics was never a knot free straight thread. It has always been convoluted and complicated.
My luck is always bad, I have only made a B-class staff once.😂
maybe it's that i'm actually seeing it now that it looks convoluted to me
There are way too many factors and now with the option to create our own multi-tools we have a bigger fish to catch. We know how things work now, how different parts of a multi-tool correspond to different things and stats, etc,. It's actually more complicated now.
Thank you so very much for this 💯
I still need to do more experiments to finalize a theory but so far this is what I'm going with. I still don't know what things/stats the other two parts correspond to, or effect. Like, what about starting inventory, or SC placement, or what about starting stats and bonus rolls? I want to know it all. Lol!
Any idea how the Supercharger Seeds work? They seem to be fixed in the same place throughout our Universe
So if I get the "S-class head" on "S-class machine" and assemble it on "A-class machine", I won't be able to get the S-class staff?
I don't know, but it's interesting to figure out how this works.
Correct
You need S class head on S class machine to make S class tool.
😲
Wait. I may have misread things
It's so hard to find a S class head and S class machine for my bad luck lol
If you have S class head and you take it to an A class machine you will be able to create an S class tool because natural A class cabinet (machine) can spawn natural S class tools but a natural B class cabinet cannot, it's max is natural A.
Natural C class cabinet range = C to B.
Natural B class cabinet range = C to A.
Natural A class cabinet range = C to S.
Natural S class cabinet range = A to S
Iirc.
Save edit the seed lol! You're a seeded at heart 😄
Just like all cabinets?
I know Head can affect the Class
What do Core and Pole affect, if you know?
I don't know, tbh. This is something I've been trying to figure out but I don't have access to game files currently.
Me too, I have 4 spreadsheets running! I love this soooo much 🥳
But I am on PS5, no Editor. That's why I love talking to you people ❤️
No pins about staves yet, eh? Lol, I'm struggling
Changing the appearance by modifying the seed will no longer work, at least for now. It has additional content compared to normal multitool. (I'm not sure if this can be talk here)
anyone have a list of the staff parts that are available?
There are four things a multi-tool has. The class, damage potential, starting inventory (this may not be important), supercharged slot position. We know the head is responsible for damage potential and class in particular in conjuncture with the terminal, so what's left is the starting inventory and the supercharged slots. If I am not wrong (taking a wild guess) the core determines the supercharged slots, while the pole is for starting inventory.
The reason why starting inventory is important is if the supercharged slots appear within 4x6 inventory the multi-tool is a pistol type, and if the slots appear within 4x7 inventory it's a rifle.
I do know that every C Class that I have upgraded, 30+, have the same SC Seeds no matter what system I am in.
1 = Column 2, Row 3
2 = Column 3, Row 3
3 = Column 1, Row 5
Oh yeah, these staves are divided into 3 parts, right.
rows are left to right and column up to down
C class should not show 3 SC at all.
I don't suppose there's anything to be done for the colors these things end up?
As I upgrade to S Class
for got my ? ar the end lol
Fixed. Thank you, it's been a long 24 hours 😳
no i was asking you lol
Was this found on the same planet?
What the first thing I do after I got the staff is that use the Memory Fragment to upgrade the level. ||F**king always give me C-class.||
No all from different systems
Oo! What parts did you use? I can see the same starter head being used...
I believe Rows are on the left and Columns on top.
Right......anyone?
Got it. The core (middle section) determines the supercharged slots.
And what is the different between these two?
How are you figuring out what class the pieces are? Mine don't seem to say it anywhere but I may just be blind lol
Here’s where mine are
As far as I know, each part has 7 versions.
I mixed the parts for most of them but the SC Seeds are always the same no matter what system or parts I use.
The right side column is the "starter" set, the left side column is created set, I guess.
this is getting complicated haha
Core. Yup! Let me confirm this.
If you guys have got an accurate conclusion, pls let me know. 🙏 ❤️ It's 04:56, I'm going to bed lol.
Can you show us the staff design?
Isn't it fun!!! 💃
Good night :3
Experimenting, lol! We just know that a named part is corresponding to some stats after trying many combinations.
Okay, that looks way cooler than mine lol
Thank you
i keep getting terrible color combinations ;_;
Oh okay, I'm lost as hell but not as lost as I thought lol
Oh that looks sick
its from eissentam galaxy if that helps
@glad wren this where yours are?
Yes, row 2 ,column 1 must have been your random seed
ooof even a galaxy cant change them lol
So I'm not crazy!!!! 🤪
😭
best ive found so far is a b class lol
I mean...
@glad wren all of the radiant staves in your image that i had pinged earlier were C class upgraded to S class?
I need that combo in S class please and thank you 😀
Yes
@wanton quiver just posted the same seeds from another galaxy 👆
Alright so from those images (we will need more data) all radiant cores will have two fixed SC.
- Row 2, column 3.
- Row 3, column 3.
And row 1, column 5
That is fixed too?
Yes, all 3 are fixed
But... Jay does not have radiant core. They have the starter core.
I don't know what this means 😳
This is their staff, correct? Look at the core of this staff in the other picture they've shared.
This one.
starter looks best ❤️
The cores do not match. It's not radiant core.
which is the radiant core i can make one real quick
i have only seen the radiant heart
The one with a cylinder
ohhh
Canister looking thingy
Does anyone have locations for a good s class Atlas multitool?
okay give me a few mins ill put one together
Thank you 🙏🏼
None of that matters, not parts, not what terminal, not what galaxy or system.
All 3 of the Supercharger Seeds, the ones you get from upgrading a C Class are in fixed slots
Or am I still confused 😳
I need more coffee
We believe color is dictated by the terminal you use to construct the Staff
I am confused now. If that was the case then why are people arriving at other configurations?
Ohhhh ok
it looks like each "category" has different colors in each system
Man i just want to see cool multi tools but u arguring about staffs
Staffs are cool 🤯
Because the 1st SC a MT starts with is Random.
And a lot of what we're seeing is Bs and As with Random SCs being upgraded
If that is the case then the only thing to consider is the head.
S class with what you wanted
Yuppppppp
coolo
@glad wren does this still maintain your theory
lol
Everyone upgrade a C Class staff and see if your 3 Seeds, Supercharger slots, are:
1 = Row 2, Column 3
2 = Row 3, Column 3
3 = Row 1, Column 5
You'll be doing the NMS community a great service!
i can confirm this
We are the head hunters. Lol!
tried it on two separate C class staffs and both had the same 3 SC slots upon upgrade
only the original SC slot was diff
Awesome. Thank you for the valuable input @north nexus 
Now we have all of the info we need for staves.
Let me compile what we know so far.
yay compile awayyyyyyyy
any know the name of part of this one please?
I've upgraded a lot of Staves from different systems using different parts and it's always the same.
Since we know where the seeds are, it should be very easy to find a 4 SQ.
We just need a B class with random SCs in Row, 2 and 3 and Column 2 or 4
Staff type multi-tool spawning mechanics
- Head of the staff determines which natural class it will spawn as. Radiant Heart will go up to S class.
- Terminal of the staff multi-tool determines color and acts as a multi-tool cabinet which generates the class of the multi-tool at max. If a terminal cabinet cannot produce S class multi-tool you will not be able to create an S class multi-tool even if you have the S class head.
- All staff multi-tool have three fixed SC slots.
- 0000x00000
- 00x0000000
- 00x0000000
- Max base damage potential of staff multi-tools is 483.3
How do I find the new atlas rifle multitools?
A Staff? There are 3 parts Head, Core, Pole
I think i love you ❤️
After completing the new mission go to a Korvax system, find a monolith. Search around for a purple glow on that monolith. Once you reach there the structure will pop up that you can interact with. Interact with it and answer correctly, this should unlock the new multi-tool. Reload restore point now to refresh the pool (only works once).
Lolol! 😅
🤣
Some of the staff pics from earlier have different sc then that
🤣
Yes. Because they are not upgraded to S class.
@abstract grotto this is what we have found so far. If possible can we recheck, confirm and pin?
If you come across any good information, could you please ping me?
This is very complicated and there is soooo much i don't know
Sure thing. Thank you for all of the research you've done on this. Super awesome work.
Oh and I forgot something.
Just found one. Super cool looking. Are they better for mining or combat?
@glad wren now refund me my nanites XD lol
Oh thanks. This is an odd one, I think it was a natural S with 2 or more slots unlocked already. Is that correct @glad wren?
We don't know how good they are at mining, but for combat they're super awesome.
Natural S with all Superchargers showing.
Maybe a prerequisite for Big Boi 483.3 DP?
Could be, yup! But SC should not have changed. Hmm!
It's the 1st 483.3 I've found in over 50 Staves.
There's some exception in ship SC as well, something to do with procgen stuff.
Let's call this one the odd staff lol!
Naturally spawning 483.3 is hard to come by anyway.
Why not? S Class start with all Random Superchargers
Yup! Precisely.
Guess we will know when next 483 is found
I don't know if it's odd.
It may be the way things work with them.
I mean, all SC Seeds are fixed and the Head controls the Class
Back to hunting after lunch 😈
Get it!
is it tho
Sorry if this has been stated but I’ve had both the Runic and Havoc heads be S-class straight from the terminal, so it’s not just Radiant Heart
I was only looking at Radiant at this point, others may also be at S class straight from the terminal. It's the head seed basically.
I’ve also noticed head seems to determine color - if you put in core and backbone, then put in a head, the color can change
Is there any practical difference between mining beams, hijacked lasers, and runic lenses? (Besides the lenses cloak ability)
First Galaxy you enter
Your amazing
show yours once you do it!
From what I can tell the color is planet dependant? I've taken the same 3 parts to different ones now and it is showing different color combos each time
can you dm me this so i can get it later
Now that you've mentioned this, I too have found the same thing.
Interesting.
Thank you all for providing such a plethora of data. I'm super happy with every input on this.
Now that we know where the seeds are some players are posting 4 adjoining SCs. Even a 4 SQ on another Discord.
All use the same Seeds that I posted earlier
Anyone got coords for a white and red atlas/Atlantid multi tool?
back, did we figure anything else out while I was gone? lol
Are you using the same weapon as me? Then that’s weird if u are
Yea i have the same staff parts
Weird….
try multi off
Try looking around more…
Yea im just gonna go from system to system
@ebon ember you at the same one?
Yea same place and everything
Uts a gamma planet
Thats odd
Kinda!
I need to change some wording but it feels like we're approach the end of this mystery.
What up?
This doesn’t seem right to me. I went around the same planet to about 10 different stations and got different colors for the same parts
So head is the only thing that determines stats?
The one place I went has black and purple but others are not getting it…
That is so confusing............🤬
I believe the Head affects class
This makes no sense to me. I put one together, A class, 3838dmg, change head and it becomes c class and 4048dmg. Are we being pigeonholed into certain looks if we want high dmg potential? Is that what's going on here?
The Head controls the Class.
Brains over brawn? 🤪
This is crazy stuff
Reclaimed Claw = Hadouken
lol
see
the autophage camps are only in korvax systems, right? i didn't just make that up...?
If anyone is looking for a particular color combo, let me know and i can keep an eye out while i'm hunting
they're everywhere
You might be confused with the Atlas MTs that we get from Monoliths in Korvax systems
in charted systems only, sorry
ahhh that might be it scott. thanks.
This is all very confusing
Is there any way to increase mining beam damage in combat?
update is really keeping me on my toes hehe
red details, black and white main colors
Mine is ugly but has the best dmg of what I've found so far
any particular set or just anything?
Make sure you're taking advantage of the Adjacency bonus by grouping you Modules in blocks if you can
Have we determined if system economy has any effect on these things?
Staves in particular, I shouldn't assume everyone is working the new stuff lol
the cristal head, and the one that looks like it has liquid inside for the core of the staff this ones are my favourite, the spine your option
thanks btw
@deft rivet i just now stumbled on this if you want
I want red and black if you can give me coordinates and glyphs to a terminal that gives red and black to the staff you created in it pls dm me the coordinates and glyphs to it
A, XD, this one is perfect, thanks!
Eissentam
does that work? I saw someone saying earlier that they kept getting a different one using same parts. Curious if others have tried and managed to get the same ones
-53.35, -1.68
(do you guys really want lat/long or no?)
it's easy to just hit the scanner
I am, yeah. I mean I know it’s possible to increase mining efficiency and damage, but combat dmg seems to not vary much at all?
Very good question! Any information ❔
😃
What is your damage at and what class?
Some players are getting 170K but that's extreme.
30, 40K works wonders
That works fine. You might want to look into X class upgrades but that can be long and expensive
Lol, not yet. I've been going to 3 star systems but the staves have been really random
i tried asking what good stats there are for x class neutron cannons but got no answers
is economy making a difference?
if it is, I didnt notice lol
fair. it's a lot to keep track of
They’re getting that on mining beams, or other weapons? The tool has other stuff on it so I can’t check dmg stat, but it does 100-200 per hit for the beam
How good are the new weapons?
No, that's Weapon damage
Yeah I’m not struggling with weapon damage, I’m asking specifically about mining beam damage
The more I experiment with this, the more confused I get lol
Other than Adjacency Bonus, I know of none.
But that doesn't mean there isn't a way to raise it.
It just means I don't know as much as I want too.
If you find a way to raise Mining damage, please ping me.
I want to know too 😃
the staff can have a little bit of dmg as a treat 🥰
@pulsar charm Eissentam
It's the same for me and I'm using spreadsheets 🤪
You getting the vibe that different terminals are boosting different types of staff heads? It sort of feels that way. I thought the style would be the determining factor on that but it doesn't seem to be.
name Ideas for this monstrosity of a melter?
Not yet but I will take note from now on!
Thanks for the heads up 😃
GODDAMN THE SLOTS ON THAT
i love the scanning effect where everything appears :3
wait... if i use the reclaimed claw for the head, the color sometimes changes when i set the core component...
Very interesting
Beeblebum was right - Nothing Makes Sense
Not yet 😈
(i kindof like it like that haha)
The Hunt for information is very exciting 🥳
found a cool dark blue and green thing
I'm still just trying to find something that works well with my white + purple accents theme i have going on
@pulsar charm red and black, Eissentam
Lol...same planet...two different camps, completely different staffs when putting in same combo. So there's that.
Every camp is different
Yep
i've been doing one per system ._.
Yeah, there are multiples per planet lol. I just had to rethink my plans as well
Yep 😂
I’ve been screen shooting the glyphs and the coords
been searching for hours and still searching
looking for teal radiant and white OR teal staff handle
lmk if anyone finds anything
This thing has a neat color, not really my thing but different
The core weapon should be supercharged
It is
Oh wait you mean the weapon itself?
I need the coordinates to the specific camp that you built that staff in for me to get that specific color combo
Yeah it's long gone 😦 I'm still keeping an eye out though.
I wonder how many camps there are per planet...
Am I the only one that got the color of their MT messed up!?
should a few of us team up in multiplayer to verify that players can get the same outputs for given inputs on a site?
I'm so confused I don't even know what I want
Not finding an S class?
If you scan with the Polyphonic Core while in your ship, it doesn't do the whole top view scan animation and saves some time.
Pretty but not enough dmg 😔
I cant find the right colors i want
I just want a black and purple
Or black and blue
But it never rolls
I think its the same colors within the system, as with the class
So what system has black colors
Because i have warped like 50 times
Oh so I was wrong XD
Well I think that Black and purple are rare anyway XD
I'll keep an eye out. I think that one on the right is the closest I've found to that and it's more fuscia and steel grey? lol
I did find some retro browns XD
Decent roll in gold
Nice! Did it start as an A Class?
@ebon ember Black and blue you say?
If replace A class tech and not overpowered S class upgrades?
those 4 are supercharged
the weapon itself isn't
Sure, sec. It's my settlement planet and I'm still standing here
U prob supercharged the cannon instead of S class and got a drop. Try instead of A class
Eissentam
Woah thats weird
(-6.63, -157.10) Euclid
Not the right parts
God bless u, im comin soon
I want sun like this but blue and black
lmk if you get that exact one, that's apparently still up for debate lol
you just need the salvaged hands to be golden and then you can call it the staff of midas
W8 there is no glyphs
doh sec lol
bows
I uploaded wrong shot at first 🙂
bro why are you so tall
lol I have no idea
Oh! I'm not, forced perspective
just looks that way in the shot hehe
There go sc theory haha
No, that started as an A Class with 3 Random Superchargers
Upgrade to S Class
But the 3 it shows are already off from that post from earlier fam
You saying all the sc slots gonna move?
Uh?
I'll upgrade to S and see what happens? lol
Please do!
Row 3, Column 3 ❔
Bingo baby!!! 🥳
nice!
🥳 I have the Supercharger slots figured out!! 🥳
And it's this way throughout our Universe!!
All of the Superchargers Seeds are all landing in the same slots.
1 = Row 2, Column 3
2 = Row 2, Column 3
3 = Row 1, Column 5
It's so easy to find a 4 square now 😈
Good work!
Wooo0000TTTT!!
You mean the initial 3 sc?
Cause those 3 call outs don't line up with wicked tool except the one he got at s class
Good Hunting everyone!! 😈
A 4 Square and an L shaped have been posted on another Discord and I think a video is coming soon
\o/
for those looking for a purple radiant; Eissentam
also im pretty sure there is a purple-on-purple variant somewhere on the planet but thats unconfirmed
Someone was looking for that exact thing, I think
All MTs start with Random Superchargers.
A = 3 Random. You're seeing the 3 Random Superchargers. They are Random.
When he upgraded to S, you saw Seed Number 1.
We know where all the seeds are. I Posted them above.
Now we just need to Hunt a MT that has Random seeds to make a Square or L Or T........a Rhombus
@plain veldt hey, check the post two up
FINALLY found a combo i can live with
So the initial sc is a crapshoot but you can predict 4th one?
This one was Euclid but I don't remember where, you can go to any korvax monolith
If you have an exocraft and exocraft scanner you can locate monoliths
very weird, this is essentially what i JUST built!
do i need to have the quests complete first?
Are you using the maps? I know people swear by using exocraft but I prefer the cartographic data from space stations
there is also a red variant of this staff on this planet
(glyphs are in quoted message)
I don't think so, i think you just need atlantium
im was about to go and buy
im looking for it except with teal radiant. its consuming my time and im afraid im not gonna find it before long
Thanks but it doesn't help any unless we have the glyphs to the specific planet
The initial Random Superchargers slots are Random, unpredictable.
But we know what slots the 3 Superchargers as we upgrade will be.
No matter what class you start with, Seed 1 will always come first, Seed 2 second, Seed 3, third and they will always be in the same slot
We only need a MT with Random Superchargers to fill the gaps
the glyphs are in the quoted message
What happens when row 3 column 3 is the random roll for starting? lol
Weird things. But if it's like the Sentinel MT, they have a pattern.
I'm just not that far yet with the Staffs or Atlas MTs 😳
Wait so if a c class had one random slot over in the right place next to the "3" when you upgrade it the other 3 would be around it?
have i missed something?
there isnt any
You would have to upgrade a few and look for a pattern.
Most times, but not all, the Seeds will try and move to the next seeds slot.
Sometimes if a C Class has a Random Seeds slot the final one, seed 3 will take a Random slot.
At least thats how it worked for the Sentinel MTs....so who knows
im so lost
Gotcha. Yall too smart man, I'll just patiently wait for one of your famous "483 big boy with t shaped sc"
I need that t
I spent the last 24 hours like that 🤪
Give it some time, you'll get it.
Or I will figure out a good way to explain it
Oh...a natural S and ugly af lol
I'm Hunting for it right now!
I got one of those natural S Class Big Boi 483.3. With all SC showing Staff. Post coming soon
Nothing but faith fam. You do youtube or anything? I'd legit throw money your way for this search
No, I Hunt for players like you, kind, appreciative and fun to help!
Thank you! 😃
This one is eh...okay lol
If that's a korvax monolith you just have to walk around and a glowing purple terminal should pop up, as long as you don't activate the monolith before
Well if you ever need me to shoot someone in game or pvp knowledge hit me up haha.
ill check again
Thank you, Brother!
so im not supposed to activate knowlegde stones?
im so confused
Activating the stones shouldn't mess it up
sauce or loss........
This should upgrade into a 4 Square at S Class. Can you share glyphs and coords, please 🔥
Please please!
euclid galaxy, co-ordinates are in bottom-left
comm ball and beacon on-site
Thank you! On my way!! Do you plan on upgrading to S Class?
in case neither of which appear: planet "Pronion IV", co-ordinates +15.83, -22.85
definitely yes
Do it and take pics plz 🙏
gonna post my findings to nmsce real quick
SupraSipsi?
It looks like we need the Radiant Heart again for the Head to get the correct B Class
Is that a miny contained black hole
It seems
That's awesome af
my super duper awesome infographic
You can activate the knowledge stones you just can't go to the monolith itself before it starts glowing purple
so i just have to sit and wait for it to turn purple?
I think I have a new goal in mind
I'm going to make a catalog of every single color combo and the coordinates to the terminals were the colors can be found so people can build whatever color of staff they want
I think it would be very helpful for everyone
I've read in a comment on other discord that visiting a new planet changes the color in the terminal
Not sure if its true
Hmm that sounds a lot like how the sentinel pillers work
Yes it upgrades to a 4 Square. You should probably change your post as this is only the second one found. It's 433.3 Damage Potential
We need to use the Radiant Heart for the Head to get the correct B Class.
Great Find!!!
Every terminal is unique you don't have to go to a different planet
amazing
I am glad I could help! Would you mind if I share your find with a utuber?
So, staff are dmg and atlantidean multitools are for mining? kind of confused
Think of it this way
go right ahead
Pretty green
Oooo
That is nice
A staff is like a mighty tool made for the powerful king or leader of a tribe so it's like a weapon of destruction to those who face the tribe but the multi tool is like a tool for making the world around to your liking it has all functions but is best at finding and and shaping things around it
You will get all credit. What name or nickname do you prefer?
Really great find!
Only the 2nd four square I know of!!
call me "Jib" i guess
still pretty crazy that i found a 4 square mt
question about the atlantid multi tool
is there anything you need to do to get the discordant thing to pop up on the side of a monolith cause I've done all the new quests and it never shows at the monolith
Glyphs and coords for green, Euclid
It has to be a korvax monolith
It is truly awesome! 🔥
tough choice
o h
that's why 💀
tyy
Np
Look for the purple fog. Walk near it. The console will pop up from the ground.
In a Korvax system
revised version
Did that have 3 natural sc before upgrade?
sorry, curious what the layout looked like at B, so I can keep an eye out
yea
Hey does anyone have a diagram of all the different parts for the staff that you can get
i think
ah okay, ty
I'm curious
2 superslots at b-class, 4 at s-class
It looked like this 😈
#nms-multitools message
Row 2 and 3, Column 3
Seeds 1 and 2 made the square
I feel like I'm being kinda dumb rn but how I get the staff from the image
If the image has glyphs in it use them at a portal to get to the correct system
If the images have coordinates in them, use the coords in your Cockpit 1st person view or your Visor to get to the exact location on the planet.
I hope this helps 😃
Sorry I mean like
I'm at the location
Do I have to make it myself or something else
Was curious, I found a c that looked close, it was one off when I upgraded
Ight thanks
Has anyone found a white s class star location?
not even 20 minutes after i (re)posted it and there's already 2 people in the system
lol
🔥 That is the Hottest MT in the game right now 🔥
Build a Base on it before it gets Squashed. Players will build bases all around it. Some may even try to obstruct the Terminal
base down and uploaded
Congrats again on the awesome find!!
Passing out here, see you disrupters tomorrow, happy hunting.
Good night
That looks dope.
My mental health is getting obliterated. I cant find a single staff that fits my character
what color are you looking for?
Like i cant anymore
Black and purple
Or black and blue
The radiant
Crystal part variant
I Literally cant
yeah i've only found white and purple runic, have hardly seen even any black
Im losing it😭
Idk how it works its so random
Nvm i just found something similar IM@FREEE
lemme see
show mee
Close enough to me
Very nice
Still gotta test it some more (though this is almost certainly known) but because Sentinel and Atlantid tools don’t have normal mining beams, installing a standard one in addition to their special ones seems to grant extra damage. Gonna test with a save editor to see if all 3 together gives more dmg. Are there only the 3 types, or am I missing one?
Oh very nice mind if you share the glyphs and lat/long?
The energy color is determined by spot location on the planet. Also by the headpiece type (updated)
The metal color also changes with the headpart part and location, but some staff parts override the metal color. As far as i tested (updated)
Yea gimme a sick i have to find the place again
S-class staff terminal (dependent on head type chosen). Using the 2-handed head as shown, it came up as natural S, and after some mods, I got it up to 100k damage on 3 supercharged slots. Glyphs in the 1st pic, base on site, and the co-ords are +82.73, +171.30, planet Pagad Q43
Euclid galaxy
So the parts for staff we buy and put into the terminal to assemble
And colors are based on the location of used terminal?
Do I get that right?
Color is based on location and head
Here this is the glyphs and i also stumbled upon an S class atlas multitool i put the cords for the multitool too
Not sure on colours, but the choice of head controls the class and layout
The staff your jus wanna need to spam the locator on the planet because idk where😭
@heady pond
That’s ok i appreciate the glyphs tho 
Yea no problem
aight ima go looking for some atlantid rifles
Anyone found any cool atlantid multitools
Found this one yesteday
Yo that red is clean
Made a base on that monolith, Euclid galaxy
Base is called something like [Location] Conference Call
Because it reminds me of Conference Call shotgun from Borderlands 2
View in 1st person
Do you just find the monoliths just like any other?
You need a Korvax monolith
I know that much
I have tons
Does anyone know how the Runic Lens compares to Mining Beams and Hijacked Lasers?
But do you find the monolith just like any other?
You’ll also need a bunch of nanites to get the tool. My S-class one cost around 4100
Yes, locate monolith like any other
It's a standard Korvax monolith unless you interact with the extra pillar thingy
I have 381,784 nanites I think I’m fine
Yeag
Are the classes always the same per system for the Atlantid multitools
put a juiced up neutron cannon into the supercharged slots and it doesn't destroy sentinels. it sub-atomically disintegrates them
That one is very nice
Anyone know where i can get a black and red staff? I saw coords for one but couldnt find it in game
Something to go with this fit
euclid?
Yes, X class modules can have stats higher than S class
eissentam
eissentam
i tried those coords on eissentam already, they brought me to a vykeen system
oh sorry
How its work to find multitool like this ??
Its a pain to get them tbh kina wish it were like a "corrupted" version of the sentinel multitools xX least that way i could get some killin in
I don't even have a sentinel multitool even though the luger looked cool
OK thank's for the help its always a pleasure
Anyways as far as I've tested (a very small sample size) it seems so?
Anyone find a black and blue staff color area pls gimme galaxy and put a base on it
Found an almost perfect staff but I’m looking for a mostly grey one not mostly blue
Eissentam
Its 85k nanties to upgrade from c class to s 😭
At least the pirate system method is easy
If not tedious
Eissentam, base on site called Grey/blue stave
Enjoy my color combo
location pls?
The portal coordinates?
I mean I did put a marker on it but I’ll go there and grab the coordinates too
-33.36, -106.14
thx❤️
Anyone know where I could find a radiant staff with blue crystals?
Asking even tho there’s a pic of one above cause I’m not in eissentam lol
But that one looks perfect fr
https://gyazo.com/9225748719d029a32dcf396f6c7dd046.jpg So I got this a lil bit ago and am now just learning about all the different types of multitools, does anyone know which one this falls under it requires the stuff that purple sentinels drop
That is a Sentinel multitool
That’s a sentinel class multi tool and there’s only 2 variants of their class (the rifle looking one and a smaller pistol) and it has really high damage compared to other classes
Good find
Yeah they can have high damage
Oh thank you I've been trying to google my way thru everything, I played back on inital launch on PS4 and havent played since, now im on PC and ive done about 40 hours in 3 days although I did spend 7 hours trying to find a rare underground fauna lol
Now if we could just get the to add the classes info into the game I wouldnt be confused lol
Euclid. -19.73, 39.00, A-Class
👆 This one is mostly green. That one is half green and half white👉 #nms-multitools message
Is it already a known bug that in Multiplayer the Staffs do not show the correct color?
It doesn't seem like a widespread bug, I can correctly see the color of my friend's staff
Euclid. +2.91, -171.66, mostly blue
what class was it?
Maybe C? I forget it.
So new Atlas rifles, are they procedural or prefab like Sentinel guns?
Proc i think
Yes they are procedural. It's one major type actually with 3 sub tools
So I just got an S class of the sentinel rifle I had earlier im like 5/7 on S class from pillars
I could taxi you to eissentam
oh wait
anyone needs glyphs for this one?
it's C class
but personally it looks cool
It does look cool, do those do more dmg than the staves? Also, goodmorning lol
Me please!
I hope it's the right ones
I just had to dig a terminal out of a cliff...this mt better be good lol
not sure, I don't know anything about staff and atlantis multitool stat bonuses
Fair enough, we're all still figuring this out lol
I want to upgrade it, I hope it's damage is not worse than my current sentinel multitool
@west barn @dusky flame
According to INVENTORYTABLE.MBIN file
Bottom line: Staves are equal to Sentinel MTs
Atlas feature lower damage but higher mining bonuses
@gleaming stream Ah, ty. Looks like I want a staff after all 🙂
Galaxy: Hesperos Dismension
Planet: Firmuri
Coords: -13.46, +61.32
I wish we had a tab for mts like we do for companions. I'd like to be able to compare the ones I have more easily.
Yeah the Quick Menu needs an overhaul
Small previous of ships worked for 6, not for 12
Lol, yeah for real 🙂 not complaining or anything but there are a few ui things I would really like to see added in. Like autosort lol
Sorry I know it's offtopic but I have to rant
ABOLISH POLISH TRANSLATIONS OF THE GAMES rant end thx
ouch
These staves seem all about the terminal used and the head is the only part that matters in determining the roll. As far as I can tell. As in the the runic focus doesn't innately do more dmg than the radiant heart, etc. same combo on 2 different camps, 4k dmg on one, 300 on the other, lol
Euclid (-65.16,-46.90) pretty blue, natural S with a not perfect layout but not awful
do we know if staffs or new rifle mt are bis tools or mid?
Has anyone found a purple s class staff?
to find an s you need an s class head and an s class terminal so its pretty hard
Staffs are bis, atlas ones are mid (bis for mining)
Oh Alr
sweet got my purple and black staff so im chilling lol
Staffs are equal to Sentinel MTs
find any s tier spawns yet
But tbh for damage neutron cannon is so OP so it doesnt matter what mt is used
Yes, post coming in a few minutes
🥹
I just woke up 7:30 am here ☕
what galaxy so i can go stand next to a tp XD
Is there a bug that other players can't see the correct color of your staff?
yes
Tell me about it
does anyone have a white havoc coil staff? similar to the echoes trailer?
omg, share it pls
So the wiki is wrong?
S Class Staff With All Superchargers Showing-EUCLID-
Big Boi Max Damage Potential At 483.3 💪
YOU MUST USE RADIANT HEART FOR THE HEAD PART FOR S CLASS
With Coordinates! +82.40, +109.06
There is a Base and Save Beacon to Help Guide You!
This Starts as a S Class, NO NEED TO UPGRADE!
YOU MUST USE RADIANT HEART FOR THE HEAD PART FOR S CLASS
EUCLID
Enjoy!
Are you still there now? Can you try to use...these parts?#nms-multitools message
what a chad
I can later today. But you must use the Radiant Heart for the Head or it will not be S Class
Sorry what is Radiant Heart Head looks like? I'm not playing in English. I'll go there and try by meself.🙂
the one he is showing in his picture with the crystal on it
It's in the 4th image
oh this is my favorite, I'm sure I'll use it lol
Does anyone know if the staffs actually have some type of stat advantage over atlas and sentinel or are they trash?
The can be Big Bois. They are equal to the Sentinel MTS
Like almost the exact same stats? Sick, I was thinking I'd have to build it up again, but I guess I could just swap over
Anyone know why the wiki said the damage of Atlantid has 50, but FriendlyFire said only 20 from INVENTORYTABLE.MBIN file
I find it hard to believe that sentinel mt have trash mining and that staffs are the worst out of these three.
Nice!
Good to know that staffs and sentinel mt at S are pretty much equal
my staff was an a but i cba to search for a black staff purple crystal s thats just way to rare lol
what mining bonus affects? like I will get more resources or it's something with terrain manipulator?
I posted a blue and a gold S class, the gold had a better layout, both in Euclid
i keep finding b and a class never s and yesim using radient heart head lol
I think it's the speed of mining, so yeah more resources since you can mine faster
I don't think it directly affect yield, mods do but I could be wrong on that
Yeah, not guaranteed
I can't tell if wiki is wrong or not. All I did was copy numerical values from game file to a spreadsheet
If you want, you can compare them yourself
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
I trust your numbers more than wikis
Robot = Sentinel type
Atlas, Atlas Yellow and Atlas Blue = Atlantid
Staff is well, staff
it reminds me of half life weaponry for some reason
what if there is multitool that looks like AR2
I think I love you ❤️
Half Life is how I started my online gaming experience in 1998
and here i tohught it was me you loved im hurt
I know I love you 
yay now lmk if you find anymore s class pref black and purple 😉
if anyone is able to find a black/green staff like this or similar - please lmk!
I can see the correct color of my friend's staff but he can't see mine.😅
Has anybody found an orange s class radiant heart staff?
Orange and black if you can.
ily man
gonna replace my mining pistol with an atlantid then
Ugh... So close after upgrade lol
It started as a C Class with a Random Supercharger in slot Row 2, Column 4?
B with 3 and 4
Wonder what damage potential is without anything on it?
439.6
To get a Square you need a B with Random Superchargers in Row 2 and 3 Column 4 or 5
Or an A with corresponding Random Superchargers
Dang it
I just found another 483.3 Natural S Class
That L sc with 483 would be great till a t shape 483 is found
Oof can't wait to see
Let me see what my gold one is, I've been using that one
👀
I am Hunting for the T right this minute 😈
🔥👀
I posted another Natural S a few minutes ago 👆 up there
not this one?
Yes, that one. I just found another. I will post it in a bit. I'm hunting wabbits.............err.......a T right now
Do all staffs have the poly scanner thing installed when you build them?
Yeah
sick
How many staff partd sets are there? Because i got 6 sets and cant find parts for recycled pole
Uh I can't get any more void motes
Use polyphinic core to find camps. Also some poi have autophages like crashed freighters
They don't give me motes though they give me nanites units items but no motes
Have you bought everything you can buy with motes maybe?
Ive bought all customizations but I still need the autophage tech
Try Exit game and reload
S Class Staff With All Superchargers Showing-EUCLID-
Big Boi Max Damage Potential At 483.3 💪
YOU MUST USE RUNIC FOCUS FOR THE HEAD PART FOR S CLASS
With Coordinates! +46.84, -85.06
There is a Base and Save Beacon to Help Guide You!
This Starts as a S Class, NO NEED TO UPGRADE!
YOU MUST USE RUNIC FOCUS FOR THE HEAD PART FOR S CLASS
EUCLID
Enjoy!
@glad wrenDo you know the other new multitool's name? Atlas or Atlantid?
I call them Atlas
Atlantid technically but they're atlas in our hearts
been doing some testing, and it seems like all staffs in multiplayer all look the same blue/teal color to others. anyone notice anything different? been testing with some people in the anomoly and they all look like this
That is very weird 🤪
yeah looks like ALL staff colors are client side only
I think the Autophage ||would resent that! Void Mother would be most displeased.||
Has anyone else experienced a crash when trying to scrap an Atlantid multitool?
Also hoping for a fix for the way the staff is held in VR . . . pointing forward, like a pistol!
Anyone found a s class staff with a supercharged slots in an L or T shape?
Hero as a Video out with a L and 4 SQ
I can confirm that. Tried to scrap a C-class Atlanid MT and it crashes. I also noticed the terminal said it's only 660U worth.
Anyone else wish the Blaze Javelin was better? Everything else seems so much more powerful and uses projectile ammunition.
I submitted a bug report, with the crash report attached, but thought I would see if it was just me.
Thanks for confirming!
So our theory was broken they don’t all have same?
About the Superchargers?
We are correct. They are in fixed locations
So how is there’s an L or square
so hey does the game crash for anyone else when they dismantle an atlantid multitool?
Players are finding MTs with the correct Random Superchargers
Yes, players are reporing that here
plase fix it i really need those 250 units jk
Ask in #nms-questions They may have a fix
im joking dude
They still may know a fix 😃
must be nice lol
It's actually pretty easy peasy. I've seen two 4 SQs and an L posted already
all mine are followign same oath
The easiest way is to find a B with Random SCs in Rows 2 and 3, Column 2 or 4
lol apparently you can make a holographic staff too
So if I'm reading this right:
Experimental and Royal are still the best scanning tools
Sentinel and staff are best combat tools
Atlantid is now the best mining multitool
Well, not bad as SC slots, wonder if it's seed dependant or just random slots
The seeds are fixed universally
if only purple i d have yoinked that
i got purple, but the handle was pink -_-
so SC slots are fixed for everyone?
the same? like exocraft
yes so far
No
As you upgrade they always land in the same slots
sad :/
btw staff are fun with gek 💀
half of it is in the ground
too tall = staff never touch the ground
too short = the staff is the ground
gek = best lifeform #sorrynotsorry
they are funny to look at and explore with
i think atlantids look the best now tho
the clothe are so good
anyway, my main outfite finaly have a walking stick, and weirdly his backstory i made up is 100% possible with the new race behavior ect...
Euclid. -22.04, +159.52
So pistol and rifle are now useless in terms of stats. Experimantal/royal for scan, sentinel/staff dmg , atlantid for mining.
Pls tell me that isn't a glitch I want that
it shows up in multiplayer too. friend randomly generated a staff seed, it came out as this
Hm is it possible for me to get my hands on this to
May I have the coordinates and glyphs to the specific terminal you used to make this staff
dark lord vibe 👍
i can if i didn't forgot the planet :/
since i don't have more parts like this, i cannot check
if you can log on RN and you have the parts, i can show you the place
just need to travel here
Euclid. -71.60, +153.13.
Stunning staff. Looks like jadestone
Looks like he saw his friend and said hmm you would make a great multitool
Well, sorry @pulsar charm but i don't remeber where i got it :/, i have the planet for sure, but the exact spot no :/
do you want the coords?
Materials are materials. Use what you can
Even if that means Bob's gotta go
Lmao
It's a damn assaultron head on a stick as well
So the head that is being used is a actual head you can use on your character
Can you make more than one staff?
Yep, they're just a MT so you can carry a few variants if you wanted and switch between em
How would I be able to get a red version of this🤔
should i yoink it
Euclid, -63.79, +40.59
Has anyone encountered the coordinates of the purple and gold color staff please?
I might need that but I just remembered there is a chance I have a base computer set up there I could warp to but I need to check tho
that actually kinda goes hard
lol you can make variations too
You mean like this (A-Class)? Same planet, Euclid, -51.65, +12.77
thx^_^go to try now
Added coords.
Yes definitely grab
Are the coordinates in Euclid please?
Correct. I edited my previous post: Euclid, -51.65, +12.77
ok,
It seems that other villages have different colors
just fyi - your staff colors are client side only. in multiplayer, everyone's staff is set to a default blue color. In case youre like me and spent hours farming for a specific color
Oh, on my searches I always disable multiplayer
i mean after you build it and walk around the anomoly. no one else will be able to see the color except for you
Oh, ok. I got that wrong ^^
@opal orioleI found the waypoint, but with the online service enabled, my assembly is all orange staff.🤣
i also find it funny how our characters are like opposites
oh nice lol i have an inverted version too
i saw that, it looks very nice
That's weired. I just flew back to check. Did you assemble all the Havoc parts? I'm not sure if only the head piece determines the output...
Ah, sure enough, different parts are assembled in different colors at the same waypoint...
So you got the correct staff now?
Almost... the parts I prepared are different from the ones in your screenshot, I only have the same head part... first record the coordinates, collect the same parts and come again
Anyone have coords for light blue staff?
I have a post earlier in here for eissentam for a blue and grey one
looking for coords to a black staff with orange/dark orange highlights
Alr thx replying for later
Eissentam
do you remember where you found that? I would like to pick up a staff like that.
How do i get different classes
like how do i get an S staff
i want this one but how can i get it to S without upgrading
As far as i know the headpiece determines the class on every location.
Some locations have no S class regardless of the headpiece, while others will make the staff S for a particular headpiece
So seek out different camps and assemble the staff as it is
one of the locations will always make the staff S for your headpiece no matter the other pieces you add
Euclid
I'm planning on doing some research and making my own for everyone here
I wonder if there is a link with Space Stations
if you make a staff, check the space station, because it might be linked, just in case... like freighters
if there is a colour per system
staffs color comes form the terminal you make it at
Yeah; but are the colours actually random
No each and every single camp with a terminal gives a unique color to any staff parts put in it