nms-multitools

[amber pawn]

Dont need in this case, spread.out is enuf info

You might manage 40k with Scatter

Would require 3 max X Class upgrades, with the Shell Greaser synergizing base weapon tech

[pliant hamlet]

I can't check it now :/

[quasi hatch]

2 multi tools, 1 at sentinel pillar (coordinates included), 1 at space station, Euclid Galaxy - sorry for poor quality pics!

[pliant hamlet]

@amber pawn

XOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOXXOOO
OOOOOOXOOO

i did 42k

Too bad this one isn't next to the rest, but oh well

[amber pawn]

Cool, thx

[vocal viper]

Does anyone know how I can get my sentinel tool to like 50k damage? I tried looking at youtube videos but the tool's damage only increases for certain things like pulse splitter, bolt caster, etc.

[pliant hamlet]

you need to find a tool that will have 4 SC slots and that next to each other

@vocal viper

they must be exactly like that

Unfortunately, I haven't found one

[pliant hamlet]

X - SC slots

And i did 42k

[vocal viper]

Yeah I can find a tool like this, but how can I tell if it is for the bolt caster or pulse splitter? Only 1 of them increases the damage for it.

[pliant hamlet]

I personally use... Wait I have to check xd

Scatter Blaster

and 3 X-class upgrades

And if my one SC slot was together with the others - I would have reached 50k

[pliant hamlet]

And if you find a multitool with such four SC slots, please send me glyphs and coordinates

[quasi hatch]

Went to pick up this ship (pic from glyph exchange, all credits to OP) and found this multi tool in the space station - Euclid, C class.

[meager blade]

Why close to eachother?

[pliant hamlet]

because when modules are close they have better stats

It's quite logical

U have scatter Blaster, x-class upgrade, x-class upgrade, x-class upgrade. When they are all close they have this one color border

What does their "teaming" symbolize

@meager blade

[meager blade]

damn didnt know that..

so even without supercharge if you put them close the stats boost?

[languid bison]

anyone have a s class multitool that i can get?

or trade

[thorn marsh]

you can backread a bit for coordinates for some of the s class multitools 🙂 or go to glyph exchange

[stuck kiln]

buy or no?

[proper karma]

No

[knotty quarry]

If you like the style of it

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[slender lake]

experimental multitools are so clean

[gleaming stream]

S class Sentinel Multitool found at Harmonic Camp, located at roughly -4 / +17 on the planet in Euclid galaxy.

[amber pawn]

Painful base dmg, in the masochistic rather than sadistic sense of the word

Sentinels are the only MTs that have >2 damage tiers, so base damage @ S can be 416.7, 433.3, 450.0, 466.7, or 483.3

[gleaming stream]

Didn't know what, reckon people will be looking for naturally spawning S class so I shared it

[glad wren]

Is it based on native class? C=lowest?

The more you need to upgrade, the more you lose?

[amber pawn]

@glad wren No, both Sentinel and Royal MTs work more similarly to ships, high tier seeds get high tier dmg, about 1 in 3 for Royals, <1 in 5 for Sentinels

[glad wren]

Can you please define high tier seeds? Thank you very much for your help and time!

[amber pawn]

@glad wren The procgen engine processes a seed in stages, in the 1st stage the 1st model part for a ship type is selected, and is also the root of procgen stats, Core Maneuverability - this means that all ships can be subdivided into overlapping tiers of Core Maneuverability, ie. Silver trim Royals can be as low as 387.5 and no higher than 432.5, Gold trim doesnt tend to roll lower than 395-400, and cannot exceed 443.5. Squids can hit 445.0, and dont tend to go lower than 410.

By the same basic mechanics, MTs will get better upgrade bonuses based on that same "tiering" of seeds

Also important to note, this doesnt apply to the 4 standard types

[glad wren]

I had no idea. That is all new to me and is a gold mine of knowledge!! Thank you very much for enlightening me !!

I learn so much here, thank you very much again!

[amber pawn]

Pistol, Rifle, Alien, and Experimental will always have high tier damage when purchased at S in regulated systems, and theyll all have low tier dmg upgraded to S. In Outlaw systems, a natural S Class has RNG bonuses, so scouting there is mostly useless to others

Sentinels and Royals are the exceptions, theyre the only types whose Class upgrade bonuses are actually dependent on MT seed

Longstory short, @ Outlaw stars
Sentinel + Royal scouting:
Other types:

[glad wren]

Wow, I knew none of this! Thank you sooooo much

[glad wren]

4 Squared Supercharger Sentinel Pistol! -EUCLID-
RELOAD AT CABINET!
With Coordinates!
+41.18, +124.09
There is a Save Beacon and Base to Help Guide You!
This starts as a B Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
RELOAD AT CABINET!
EUCLID
Enjoy!

[bitter apex]

Appropriate that it looks like a tank cannon

[glad wren]

To me it looks like a pressure washer

[gleaming raptor]

More like a powerdrill to me, lol

[umbral kestrel]

Hand cannon

[mint wing]

Han solo blaster

[compact scroll]

[Euclid]
A C-class, but an exotic nonetheless

[thick hedge]

Euclid

[pulsar charm]

Did you put a save becon or comm ball

Nvm I saw the most recent post

Thank you for the good multitool

I already have a super strong rifle but this should be good for combat

[celest bluff]

all i need is a pulse spitter ...

[pulsar charm]

They suck in my opinion

[celest bluff]

your justification?

[pulsar charm]

I like the bolt caster and blaze javelin

Because of better range

And I don't need to worry about scatter dmg

[celest bluff]

true ... but I can still aim quite far with the spitter in burst cycles ... but in straight up combat ... everything melts once I aim at them.

[pulsar charm]

Plus isn't bolt caster better with amo it's easier to make

[celest bluff]

pulse spitter uses the same ammo but more of it.
my bolt caster has 82 clip size but shoots around 9 bullets per cycle.
easier to aim since it has less recoil.

My pulse spitter can shoot 175 bullets continuously as a stream of bullets.
and yes, it uses more bullets, has more spread. but when you're up close, nothing escapes it

I don't need to worry about bullet making since I can get ferrite dust easily and then to ammo

[pulsar charm]

I like blaze javelin a lot

Because

It's a sniper rifle

Great for getting the head start on the sentinels when getting inverted mirrors

That combined with the cloaking device

It's perfect

[umbral kestrel]

Meanwhile me bursting down everything with the scatter blaster

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[celest bluff]

the recoil on that is funny .. cuz I just hear bleh bleh bleh sfx on it

[glad wren]

T Shaped Supercharger Sentinel Rifle! -EUCLID-
Reload At Cabinet!
With Coordinates!
-7.51, +123.10
There is a Save Beacon and Base to Help Guide You!
This starts as an A Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
Reload At Cabinet
EUCLID
Enjoy!

[pulsar charm]

This one always reminds me of a super soaker

[pulsar charm]

If you can find one of these with a square configuration with the supercharged slots and it starts as S class I'll gladly switch my current one of these for it

Dm me if you have one

[glad wren]

What is the max Damage Potential for a Sentinel MT? I hear 388 to 550?

[amber pawn]

416.7-483.3

[glad wren]

Thank you very much!!

[amber pawn]

YW 🙂

[glad wren]

Then the MT I posted earlier 👆 has the best Damage Potential possible?

Now it just has to be a Square?

[amber pawn]

@glad wren Technically, 500.0 is possible, however an MT with a perfect Damage Bonus roll has never been discovered, naturally or otherwise.

Literally anything at 49.9999999999999999% or less will show <=483.3

[glad wren]

So 500.00 is actually the max?

Even though never found...............yet?

[amber pawn]

Theoretical max, there's no guarantee there's a single model in the universe spawns that can hit it

[glad wren]

So what you're saying is that it's possible? 😈

[amber pawn]

Yes, I'm saying there's a chance. XD

[glad wren]

I love you ❤️

Thank you very much!

[amber pawn]

Remember, it doesnt matter what class a Sent MT spawns at, any seed could be the one, meaning there's a chance for every pool in every Dissonant system with camps

[glad wren]

Not just Outlaw

[amber pawn]

If you play on oldgen, there's 7 chances per applicable Dissonant system, period

[glad wren]

I'm on PS5

[amber pawn]

I think itd be hilarious to find a 500.0 model from a nonexistent planet pool, maybe I'll start looking lol

[glad wren]

Thank you very much for your time and help, really, Thank You! 🥰

[amber pawn]

YW, my biggest pet peeve with the tech hunting community is how few care to scout stats, so am happy to help players learn to do that properly.

[glad wren]

I want to Hunt the best. I can't do that if I don't know what the best is

Or how to hunt it

[amber pawn]

Same, but because I'm a realist, I'll take any model that hits 483.3 with 2x2, T, L, split L, 2+2, or 3+1 SC slots for now lol

2+2 and 3+1 are the layouts if one wants to divide SC between two weapons/tech

[glad wren]

What about a Rhombus?

[amber pawn]

Good catch

And better than what I thought of calling it, the Tetris piece lol

People woulda asked which one, to which I'd've replied, the one you cannot describe in 1 word - thank you for saving me from embarassing myself XD

[glad wren]

I didn't think anyone would want these

[amber pawn]

People arent realists, I am. I will take 2nd best until 1st is found, 3rd til 2nd, etc, and I'll keep locations for the top 5 or so in case any are lost to updates for whatever reason.

[glad wren]

Me too!

[proper karma]

Definitely a market for MTs like this or the T shaped you posted earlier. Pvp players love them I'll definitely scoop up the shaped! Thank you! Keep posting these great finds please.

[glad wren]

Thank you very much for your kind words 😃
I have more coming!

[proper karma]

Love to hear it. I've been wanting a t shaped with the 483 damage!

[glad wren]

Shaped? I am confused 😳

[proper karma]

The sc slots being T shaped in layout

It's perfect for a maxed out Blaze javelin setup

[glad wren]

Sorry, I read it wrong

[proper karma]

No problem at all!

[amber pawn]

@proper karma Thanks for stopping by, I hadn't thought to mention that particular reason to care, too used to avoiding the topic of NMS pvp unless its brought up by someone lol

[proper karma]

I always try to in a friendly manner. I know what you mean. I try not to be argumentative about it with people though you can guess how I feel about it. Been scoping the channel out hoping someone would drop some good MTs like these.

[amber pawn]

Who wants to take a gamble? I believe this is in Paholiang, but not 100% sure. Anyone who goes and finds it is welcome to take credit for scouting class, locatikn, sc slots, even discovery, dont particularly care, just came across this in my screenshots and dont feel like going back for it lol.

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[stuck kiln]

hmmmmm

[amber pawn]

Outside chance it can be found as s class at a minor settlement, if youre in t2 or higher econ @stuck kiln

[proper karma]

@glad wren Just went and got that MT from yesterday. had a base damage of 45.341 which is higher than one I had previous. Thanks again!

[glossy ibex]

Hey just a double check the sentinel multi tools are still all the same right? With the rifle being the best of best?

I haven't really been playing since that update so I just wanted to make sure not much has changed

[tidal yoke]

Sentinel rifles are best for damage due to the extra mods you can add. But I don't know if they're better at scanning.

[glossy ibex]

I typically have 2 overall one for scanning and one for damage

[gleaming stream]

Sentinel MTs have a high damage bonus by default

They don't really get more upgrades than other MT types (not couting in Hijacked Laser)

[proper karma]

Sentinel rifle and pistol are exactly the same across all stats. Merely a visual preference.

[glossy ibex]

Have they added a way to trash multitools that you don't want in your inventory yet?

That is a feature that should be in the game at this point cause it apparently ain't

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[gleaming stream]

Nope

[glossy ibex]

Thats some bs

[pale vapor]

i came across a glitch involving memory fragments that would delete your current tool. while spamming inventory memory fragments i was offered a tool with zero stats and when i exchanged it deleted my current tool. no idea if its repeatable and its probably just easier to use an editor erase the tool.

[outer inlet]

will post planet runes in a bit

[outer inlet]

realizing I was a moron and took a screenshot with a white ass background so you can't see the runes

[celest bluff]

Use snipping tool if on pc?

[celest bluff]

+63.57, +116.07

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[wind bramble]

does this look good worken on my multi tool

[mint parrot]

Are Sentinel Multitools always S Class?

[mint wing]

No

[mint parrot]

ah

[tidal yoke]

No, their class is just as random as other multi-tools.

[mint parrot]

Same goes for the ships?

[tidal yoke]

Yup. Sentinel ships are just like regular crashed ships in terms of classes. They all range from C to S class. Though I've never actually found an S class Sentinel ship yet. A few A's, but no S's yet.

[celest bluff]

I never found an s class on my own, but youtube provides them and reddit coord exchange...

[celest bluff]

Also worth getting the c class sentinels because they are worth much more than normal starships when salvaging them. Easy units and extra goodies. C class often gives me 30million or around this number

Or was it b class... cant remember

[lime magnet]

Yeah no need to search for units if you occasionally look around for a sentinel ship

[pliant hamlet]

where are your SC slots in this mt?

[wind bramble]

super charged slots in center with the blue x upgrades and red and blue weapon

[pliant hamlet]

if you want more damage use a different weapon

Scatter Blaster and x-class upgrades - It's all for SC slots

@wind bramble

[muted saddle]

which one would you guys keep, the one I have or the one on the right?

[golden lynx]

Euclid, in the space station.

[pulsar charm]

that looks so sick lol

[golden lynx]

Sick, like it's throwing up a green popsicle? 😂

[celest bluff]

the right, because you dont have missing tech slots

[pulsar charm]

something like that

[willow urchin]

A-class Multitool
Odyalutai // Glyphs (in provided picture) // Coordinate (in provided picture).

[flint ginkgo]

Hi everyone ! Doe's anybody have the incinerator ? :)

[heady pond]

Used to but players wouldn’t be able to give it to you if that’s what you are going to end up asking

[flint ginkgo]

Arf ! To bad ! Thx for the answer ! ^^

[rotund pumice]

you can still save edit to have one :/

[pulsar charm]

What is that?

[flint ginkgo]

It's a multitool module that adds a flame thrower. the same one the sentinels use on their minotaures.

[rotund pumice]

• it's super effective if i remeber well

and badass

[pulsar charm]

Dam

How do you get it?

[rotund pumice]

that's the neat part, you don't!

or you need to "cheat" the tech in with a 3rd party

idk if the save editors are still updated

[gleaming stream]

Goatfungus save editor is updated

[rotund pumice]

nice

[amber pawn]

@rotund pumice Incinerator is pure trash as an actual weapon, combat has been rebalanced twice since the last time it was updated.

[rotund pumice]

well, that's sad

it's like the neutron canon

used to be great

now it's trash, for no reason

[gleaming stream]

Neutron Cannon is fine

[rotund pumice]

deal at least 20* less than boltcaster

[amber pawn]

It doesnt even light things on fire lol. And Neutron Cannon is highly effective vs flesh, poor vs armor, as it should be

[rotund pumice]

2 burst of boltcaster are enought to destroy a sentinel drone, neutron canon car barely scratch it

[rotund pumice]

wait, there is affinity?

[amber pawn]

Simple affinity,but yes

[gleaming stream]

Pulse spitter with igniting module is pretty much an incenetaror lol

Cloud of fiery projectiles

[amber pawn]

Plasma Launcher is better

[rotund pumice]

well, i'm mainly using my boltcaster :/

with the stuning mecanic

it's good

[gleaming stream]

Plasma deals fire damage?

[amber pawn]

Yes

[gleaming stream]

Huh, TIL

[rotund pumice]

w8, i tried the neutron canon VS abomination (the thing from wispering egg) and it was dealing like no damage

but my boltcaster/spitter where absolutly shredding them

[amber pawn]

When? And was it equivalently upgraded?

[gleaming stream]

I run NC on my multi tool precisely for bio horrors and it works wonders

[amber pawn]

Because my neutron shreds horrors

[rotund pumice]

yes, both S class, just after the nerf of the neutron canon

[gleaming stream]

The splash damage gets rid of all spawns in one shot

[rotund pumice]

it was like my main weapon against all

and when i did a nexus mission, no damage output

needing lots of shoots to deal damage

[gleaming stream]

There was a time where NC was bugged

[rotund pumice]

really?

[gleaming stream]

To the point of dealing no damage

[amber pawn]

Okay, well pretty much every single update has adjusted neutron since its release

[gleaming stream]

But it's been fixed since

[rotund pumice]

ima try this when i come home so

well, kinda happy it's useable again

it's a great and fun weapon imo

more fun than boltcaster/pulse spitter or positron ejector

[amber pawn]

Its also banned from civilized pvp because it is simply too OP there lol

[rotund pumice]

i never did PVP

even if i acciendtaly killed a friend once

[amber pawn]

On foot w/ Neutron vs Starship? Neutron wins lmao

[rotund pumice]

bruh what?

you're telling me that a basic weapon can kill spaceships?

what are they made of, plastic?

[amber pawn]

In PvP, yes, easily

A fully upgraded Neutron can 3 shot any ship

[rotund pumice]

idea : the golden vector should have the capacity to reflect any energy base attack, since it's golden and shiny

anyway

[amber pawn]

Disagree, gold is a horrible armour material, its trash stats are appropriate.

[rotund pumice]

is there a documentation with all the weapons and the target weak to them?

[pulsar charm]

Whats the best weapon module overall? good for all ranges, all enemies?

[rotund pumice]

i think it's not a starship to use as a main, it's like the exotic imo, more of a show off ships than a real starship

[amber pawn]

The only other weapon that has such a radical exception is Plasma vs derelict minidrones, they take negligible damage,where anything else in the game gets wrecked

[rotund pumice]

so if i understand well :
NC is real weak against armored target like the plasma launcher

what is beast against shield, flesh and armor so?

[amber pawn]

I can finish wave 5 on the ground in <10s with plasma, but 3 minidrones take more time and ammo

[rotund pumice]

can i apply slag on the ennemy to deal 3* the damages in ultimate vault hunter mod?

oops wrong game XD

[amber pawn]

Plasma is literally the most universal damage, nothing else is effective against every single threat in the game minus 1

[rotund pumice]

yea, but plasma is also good against terrain, and this is bad

well

[amber pawn]

Plasma isnt GeoCannon

[rotund pumice]

hum

good so

ima need to stock up unstable plasma

until my inventory is ready to explode

and spam the equivalent of the FatMan launcher on everything

[amber pawn]

I dont bother carrying more than 3-4 stacks of it at a time - it's cheap to craft a couple if you ever run out and it's available at every single market terminal.

[rotund pumice]

hum

but i don't want to stop my sentinel rampage

doom music intensify

[amber pawn]

3-4 stacks will last you all day

[rotund pumice]

and in main weapons?

i'm currently running a boltcaster

good/bad for all around?

[amber pawn]

Tis a good all arounder

[rotund pumice]

i have the blaze javelin in mind, due to the stunt capacity, is it good?

and the similar mecanic to the NC please me

idk if i can say that like this

[amber pawn]

Blaze does great with paralysis mortar

[rotund pumice]

bonus to target, right?

i'm mainly using this

stun sentinels

pew pew them

repeat

[amber pawn]

But I consider blaze/bolt/neutron pretty exclusive, I build different configs around each

[rotund pumice]

is the inventory of a MT big enought to put everything?

XD

[amber pawn]

Yes, but Id rather have 3 MTs with only a couple things to toggle through, set up according to specific combat styles.

[rotund pumice]

well, i have a new all around MT (sentinel one) with the boltcaster, and the double extraction laser

i have my old royal MT who's also an all around

i have a snipper riffle with a X class boltcaster (or did i destroyed it to make the sentinel one 🤔 )

and another one with some random tools n stuff (animus ray, solar ray)

advice on the type of weaponry i should use on other MT?

[rotund pumice]

tried the blaze javelin, it's killing sentinels drone in one shot, so good

[celest bluff]

here's what I realise ... somehow, there are sentinels weak to different multitools ...
I was able to one shot corrupted spiders (small) with the purple weapon (forgot what it was called)

But i couldn't kill a normal sentinel drone with it.

[celest bluff]

I have two fully built and upgraded...
one is sniper / stunner / shotgun (extreme cases)
the other has (bolt / pulse spitter / neutron / and every grenade launcher ) (weapon overhaul)

So one is pretty much my main weapon, then i switch to my secondary if I'm in an extreme case like if I'm too far, I switch mt to use blaze javelin

[celest bluff]

and rather than put all your weapons into 1 MT (which can only have 4 supercharged cells) ..
Put them into other MTs so that way you can maximise damage for different weapons

I use 2 sentinel rifles as my main weapon MT

i have one maximising just pulse spitter... the other maximizes blaze javelin and shotgun

[minor folio]

S-Class / Euclid / Blue System

[mint parrot]

What is the best all-rounder Multitool type?

Exotic?

wait I meant Royal

[mint wing]

Read pins

[compact scroll]

I'd say royal

[amber pawn]

Sentinel, because the scan stat is nearly pointless.

[wind cradle]

I'd say royal for all rounder, but yes, scan is kinda pointless to maximize, so I personally prefer combat heavy rifle type or sentinel

[rotund pumice]

royal is the one looking like the exotic ships (one color + gold/silver ornaments), the rounder one are experimental and come in 2 version, pistol or riffle, then you have the alien MT, coming in pistol or riffle form.
You also have the new sentinel MT, with both form.
And you have the Pistol MT, wich is the basic mt you get, and the Riffle MT, wich have worst stats and barely any bonus

you can check the pin if you want the chart of MT

[frigid vine]

One of the new multitools is just a leafblower

[rich shadow]

is this good or should i reload the save?

not sure how the reloading works

ah i see i need to take out the weapon to see true base

[rich shadow]

what would the base damage at C be?

these numbers less 100?

because this tool now with only the mining beam says 383.3 which is suspiciously similar to the top tier

[cyan stump]

Welp we went looking and we found our first S class Multitool cabinet

Cudos to you multitool hunters out there. That was one of the most redundant processes I’ve ever done

[amber pawn]

@rich shadow 400.0 @ C Class, but it isnt a guarantee that itll be 483.3 @ S, can never know for certain til upgrade

[silver kite]

This is going back but I couldn't explain it so I held onto it. My second run through of the Utopia Expedition, I started with a C-class multitool with 4 super charged slots. How does something like that happen?

[rich shadow]

ok, well seeing as you can get Sentinels at higher than C i will rather upgrade the royal tool i have then

[rich shadow]

if i get a couple normal multitools at one pillar on a planet, can i theoretically get a royal tool at a pillar on another planet in the same system?

[rich shadow]

Eissentam

looks nice

[amber pawn]

@rich shadow Theoretically? Yes; each planet with Sent Pillars is subject to a procgen roll to determine whether Royals spawn there, only 15% of planets with Pillars roll Royal MTs

[rich shadow]

ok cool thank you

[wind cradle]

Do you have a max stat value table for a S class multitool? [And S class spaceship if you have that too]?

[amber pawn]

@wind cradle For MTs, all you look at is Damage Potential stripped to unupgraded Mining Beam/Hijacked Laser. Maxes are:
Sentinel 483.3
Alien 433.3
Experimental/Royal 400.0
Rifle 383.3
Pistol 333.3 (0 bonus)

[wind cradle]

Thank you

[amber pawn]

For ships I have these, the standard is stripped to basic tech, unupgraded Photon Cannon, nothing SC'ed, and Vesper Sail + Pulse Engine are always synergized for Solars

I need to do an Interceptor up to add to this

[wind cradle]

Thanks again

[amber pawn]

YW

Now go find me a pair of children, and steal their souls to forge me a Multi-sword. @wind cradle

That was the gist of it in Chrono Trigger, rite? XD

[wind cradle]

😂

[amber pawn]

(The edit made it on-topic ;))

[wind cradle]

I see you're that one Traveller that demands to see the system Baron

That would be me

Bow before me and give me tribute

[mint wing]

That kind of info should be pinned. It would help a lot when hunting for perfect mt/ship for minmaxing imo

[rich shadow]

yeah

[rich shadow]

seems like that only works if you fly there?i made 2 teleports and warped instead of flyzing to reload but it didnt seem to change the colour

either that or the base computer itself locks the container

or something

[amber pawn]

@rich shadow Yeah, there are 7 pools of MTs per system, where you load into game determines which pool is available in cabinets

[rich shadow]

ohhh so its the pool of the planet you load on to

ok will try another one

[amber pawn]

Yep, planets each roll independent pools of 2-4 regular MT models, with a possibility of 1 Royal and/or 1 Sentinel model.

The Space Station is the 0th Planet Pool, which is how 7 Pools works with 6 planets

[rich shadow]

yeah, well i got super lucky and the garden planet i got a settlement on gave me a royal pillar so now im rerolling its colour

[amber pawn]

Cool, what hunters dont seem to do is check Dmg when upgraded to SClass, <1 in 3 Royal seeds will upgrade to max Dmg, and only 1 in 10-15 Sentinel models from what Ive seen so far.

[rich shadow]

💀 oh man

well i will check

[amber pawn]

Stripped to unupgraded Mining Beam/H-Laser, the Sentinel can hit 483.3 DmgPot, Royal 400.0

450 on a Sentinel with perfect SC layout is the low end meta MT for dmg now

466.7 with good SC layout is above that, and of course 483.3 with perfect SC is the dream - iirc, 1 such model has been found, but that only covers 1 SC layout, there are 3 or 4 meta layouts, for different weapons.

[rich shadow]

yeah, i have a sentinel rifle but before i spend nanites on that for a chance at a high roll i want to get an S class royal for my all purpose, as im still running an A atm

[amber pawn]

You upgrade to S to look at the dmg then reload restore point to refund nanites if it isnt worthwhile

The same MT seed will yield the same end stats every time you upgrade to S Class

[rich shadow]

well great tip

then i only need to farm 75k nanites once

or twice

[drowsy verge]

Do some derelict and you be floating in nanites in no time

[rich shadow]

at the moment im just selling tech from the sentinel drops

[drowsy verge]

Trust me they are really fastest way...plus doing one derelict gives NOT JUST nanites but lots of good stuff

[rich shadow]

yeah, theres just overlap with my current task of hunting royal pillars xD

[drowsy verge]

Including way to get BLUEPRINT for free and freighter tech with which you can earn upto 5m (prolly more) once maxed out

[drowsy verge]

Royal pillars?! 🤔

[rich shadow]

sentinel pillars with royal tools

[drowsy verge]

Ah... Then simply kill all waves of sentinals and it will send you to one

[rich shadow]

i do want to do derilicts bcs of the title

[drowsy verge]

Or you can buy sentinal boundary map

[rich shadow]

yeah

[drowsy verge]

What title

Peachy THE CONSUMED

🤣

[rich shadow]

cant remember xD

[drowsy verge]

Dang it i can't even use peach emote... 🤣

Yeah default emote is not like this

[rich shadow]

noice white and gold i'll take it

i wish we got different colour palettes for sentinel ones

defaults are uglyyyy

[wind cradle]

whoops wrong place

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[silver kite]

Euclid

[pulsar charm]

Is there a com ball or save becon

A lot of people struggle with coordinates

[silver kite]

I am pretty sure both are there. I found the Alien MT but I went to the system because NMSCE said there were A class Royal MTs there so there are multiple planets with comm balls.

[rich shadow]

sad about the super slots but at least i can move on () Eissentam

[amber pawn]

@rich shadow With max base damage and that layout, you have the makings of a great all-arounder MT

[rich shadow]

yeah im really happy about the dmg roll :D

i can share the coords if people want

[rich shadow]

i love this hahah

[pulsar charm]

To bad it doesn't double the fuel tank

Lol

[rich shadow]

doubles the speed though xD

[pulsar charm]

Yes

And also

The dmg

Well I guess dmg and speed are the same thing

But you get the idea

[amber pawn]

Theyre interdependent, not the same

Dmg is how hard it hits, speed is how often it hits

[pulsar charm]

Yes

But

It's a lazer

So speed is the same is dmg

[rich shadow]

speed is just how fast the thing im mining dies

[pulsar charm]

Yep

Exactly

[rich shadow]

whether thats through more hits per second or more damage per hit, makes little diff xD

[pulsar charm]

Because it's a lazer the speed is also dmg because it isn't shooting individual bullets

It's a beam of light

Speed is the amount of dmg it is dealing to the given object

[amber pawn]

@pulsar charm It doesnt shoot bullets, but it does deal damage in timed "ticks" - and Damage determines how much each tick is worth, so I say again, not the same thing

[pulsar charm]

You think to much

Just saying

[rich shadow]

hes a data gatherer its important

and appreciated

[amber pawn]

If I didnt think things through, the entire NMS community would be the poorer for it - maybe its others who simply think too little

[glad wren]

Concerning MTs, is there anyway to see the hidden bonus damage above 483.3 without a save editor?

[amber pawn]

@glad wren there is no hidden bonus on that - or is your question about evaluating procedural mods?

[glad wren]

No, I was told that there is a Bonus Damage that we cannot see without a Save Editor.
Is that incorrect?

And I am on PS5

[rich shadow]

this was the message he means

i tink

[glad wren]

Not really, the Damage Potential shown is capped at 483.3, but now I am being told that there is a Hidden Bonus that we cannot see that could make one 483.3 Damage Potential MT stronger than another 483.3 Damage Potential MT

Is this incorrect?

And this Bonus can only be seen with a Save Editor

[amber pawn]

Whoever said that is wrong. Here's how it works: Any bonus roll of 45.00-49.99% yields a Damage Pot of 483.3. Any roll 40.00-44.99 is 466.7 Dmg, etc

[glad wren]

Thank you very much!!! I knew I would get the correct information here!! 😍

[amber pawn]

They could literally set up the max bonus as 10%, without having to do anything but divide all values by 5

Where hidden values do have an effect is procedural upgrades

[glad wren]

Do they effect the Sentinel MTs?

[amber pawn]

They affect everything that uses proc mods lol

[glad wren]

Am I correct in assuming that is the 45.00-49.99% and can be seen with a Save Editor?

[amber pawn]

No, I literally just explained the 45-49.99 thing

Hidden values are the decimal places that get omitted from displayed bonuses for procedural mods

Those values arent accessible in save editor

[glad wren]

I am googling Procedural Upgrades. I must be missing something basic here

You state that any bonus roll of 45.00-49.99 will yield a Damage Potential of 483.3. I understand that.

The information I got that someone can see the exact Bonus Roll, whether it is 45.00, 48.00, 49.00 or 49.99 with a Save Editor is incorrect?

[amber pawn]

Yes, you can see the exact bonus in editor, what I'm trying to explain is that the exact bonus is irrelevant

[glad wren]

Thank you!!

[amber pawn]

Whether you have a 45.01% roll or 49.89%,you do the exact same dmg

Each 5% represents 1 damage tier or bracket

[glad wren]

I understand, thank you very much!!

[amber pawn]

YW! Was getting worried I wasnt gonna find a way to express it well enuf

[glad wren]

I understand that you can see the exact bonus roll in the Save Editor. That was my original question. I could have worded it much better.

I did not know that it makes no difference in the damage we do.

I learned two things today that were important to me! Thank you very much for your time and patience with me! 🤩

[amber pawn]

You are very welcome 😄

[pulsar charm]

Can anybody inform me on how upgrading your multitool damage works? My boltcaster sits at a small 199 damage and I don't know how to upgrade it for more.

[glad wren]

You can upgrade your MT at any non outlaw space station

[glad wren]

4 Squared Supercharger Sentinel Rifle -EUCLID-
With Coordinates!
+32.37, -39.32
There is a Save Beacon and Base to Help Guide You!
This starts as a C Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
EUCLID
Enjoy!

[crisp snow]

Has anybody else seen this before? Figured I'd throw it here because it just seemed strange for a B class to have that damage potential, when the S class multitools I found don't even fill the damage potential bar.

If I remember right, I got it from one of those little outposts on a planet that have a vendor and multitool on the wall

[pulsar charm]

These coordinates are wrong

Whent to the place in Euclid and it said T shape at the com ball

[glad wren]

Checking

[pulsar charm]

Ok

Let me know when you are done

[glad wren]

Please re check your coordinates. There is a T shape with a red Comm Ball at +68.82, -141.23

The 4 Square has the correct coordinates of +32.37, -39.32

[pulsar charm]

Oh

But

I'm literally at the location

[glad wren]

Then you see a Save Beacon and a Base, not a red Comm Ball

I'm there right now

[pulsar charm]

I see a red com ball

I am reloading

There is no save becon anywhere in the map

😅

Do I leave planet

Go to space station

Then reload

And go back

?

[glad wren]

Then you are at +68.82, -141.23
When you should be at +32.37, -39.32

[pulsar charm]

Listen

I just said I reloaded and there is no save becon anywhere on the planet

At all

Just a com ball

That's it

I've even flown around

[glad wren]

Use the Coordinates, please

[pulsar charm]

I can't use coordinates

Because

I'm not good with the ships

[glad wren]

I am very sorry, I can't help you with that.

If you cannot use coordinates then it's probably not a good idea to tell someone that the coordinates they have posted are wrong

[pulsar charm]

All I'm saying is I never Left the planet I had my internet off before I whent through the portal after getting to the planet I put on my internet reloaded at the portal and no save becon appeared anywhere in the planet and no base either

[glad wren]

No, you said this

I placed a Save Beacon and Base and uploaded them. Sometimes it takes a few minutes or an hour for others to see it.

Give it awhile and check back then look for the Save Beacon and Base. I hope this helps!

[pulsar charm]

Oh I reloaded and the com ball disappeared

I'm still connected to the internet to

[pulsar charm]

Is that normal

[lucid drift]

is it possible that you might have to use an echo locator?

Because that’s what I did when I showed up on that planet to get the S class multi tool

[pulsar charm]

No

Go and read what he said

[lucid drift]

well newsflash, I did read about it.

Was just trying to help out

[wind cradle]

Why strange? If you want to compare damage potential, first you need to take out all weapons, scans, and it's upgrade modules so that it's apple to apple comparison.

[gleaming stream]

Also @pulsar charm I can confirm the base is there, but it did not show up for me initially, maybe it's still in the upload phase. I also did not find a save beacon. The coordinates +32.37, -39.32 are correct though.

Still I highly recommend checking stuff yourself instead of bashing others "this thing isn't working"

This is the 2nd time you claim something is wrong with the game when it's more probable you don't know the game mechanics. So please don't go out posting misinformation and downplaying other player's finds when you don't have the experience with the game.

[wind cradle]

I can also confirm the base is there, and I just got the tool. Thanks.

Btw can it go 483? Or will it stay 433 when upgraded to S?

[wind cradle]

@glad wren

[mint locust]

Upgrading this to S class would mean those last 3 slots in the a column would be supercharged right?

[gleaming stream]

Not necessarily, SC slot could still pop up in already available slots

[mint locust]

ah right

[gleaming stream]

Or even in the 4th row of technology inventory

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[glad wren]

It will stay at 433.3. I am looking for the 483 right now!

[pulsar charm]

Yeah I waited forever yesterday and reloaded my game several times

Still no base

On my end

[rich shadow]

are you sure you didnt put in the wrong glyph

[pulsar charm]

Why do people got to attack me just because ships are to touchy to navigate coordinates I play on Nintendo switch

[rich shadow]

people don't "attack" you they simply reply in the same tone you talk to them with

[pulsar charm]

God damn it I put in the right glyphs ok my game isn't working on my end

[rich shadow]

do you maybe have a copy of the game on not-switch with your save?

or you could try get an echolocator and find it manually

holy shit Milwaukee has so much currency lol

[pulsar charm]

So do i

I have almost as much as him

Shit

I don't have a good picture

There

That's just from selling interceptors

Almost at the same amount of digets as him

[wind cradle]

So, sentinel MT upgrade modules only works for the Bolt-caster, is this true?

[pulsar charm]

I actually don't know

But I think so

[glad wren]

Yes, you are correct

[wind cradle]

Darn, i thought it works for the pulse splitter too

[gleaming stream]

Sadly no

[pulsar charm]

Yeah I still think it's dumb that bolt caster always takes priority

[gleaming stream]

But don't worry, the wording does not state it clearly

[wind cradle]

So dmg wise Boltcaster becomes the highest dps when paired with Sentinel MT potential and upgrades?

[pulsar charm]

It's dumb that most special upgrades only work on bolt caster

Like seriously

Make them work on others

[wind cradle]

👍

[gleaming stream]

Don't let your dream be dreams

!hg

[chilly hill]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[pulsar charm]

Can't do that just tried

Not something you can do because the options and UI and stuff doesn't let you choose certain things

I can't choose all platforms for platforms and I can't choose suggestion as a preset because it isn't a option and I also can't choose all modes

There website it broken

And isn't very well built

I even whent to submit a user request

So it isn't possible to request things to be put in game because they made some huge oversights with the option menus

It forces you to fill in every section to before submitting so there website is very broken

Is there any other way you can submit suggestions

?

[gleaming stream]

Lol

[compact pecan]

dm me

taking this away from here, off topic

[rich shadow]

well i meant all the currencies together, 1m nanites and 10k quicksilver x.x

[pulsar charm]

For the nanites you can actually dup nanites

With the same dup glitch that is used for duping items

For the units they most likely are selling interceptors like everyone else

And you can also dup quick silver to though I'm not sure if that glitch still applies today

[amber pawn]

Technically it isnt duping QS - the exploit allows you to spend the same QS repeatedly

And afaik it still works, provided you remember to reload Restore Point after each time you spend QS

[rich shadow]

i know you can dupe but i can also just go to creative mode soo its kinda moot

[pulsar charm]

We are talking about a different glitch

Y'know

I'm talking about a actual glitch that allows you to dup quick silver

Straight up

[amber pawn]

I know of a glitch that allowed one to repeatedly collect QS from the same mission, that the one? @pulsar charm

[glad wren]

Please share this with us

[gleaming stream]

Not the topic of this channel I'm afraid

[pulsar charm]

Yes

[gleaming stream]

Keep in mind Sentinel upgrades work only for Boltcaster

[rich shadow]

someone had fun with the duper lol

[gleaming stream]

Which you dont seem to have installed

[rich shadow]

wait really 💀

well thats dumb

[gleaming stream]

I don't make the rules, just sharing the info

[rich shadow]

at least the tooltip is

[ivory surge]

Yep. I just keep them on

Check that potential damage

[fleet lake]

Is it possible for people to pick up a gun from someone else's armourer?

[amber pawn]

No

You cannot see another person's Armourer or other hireling, period. @fleet lake

[fleet lake]

Ah, whoops. Was hoping to share the gun mine just offered.

[amber pawn]

@fleet lake It belongs to a pool in your current system

Likely the SS pool, unless you loaded into game onplanet

[fleet lake]

Ah, that makes sense. I did find the same one somewhere else on the planet. I didn't use a glyph or anything, just in the system I started in.

[wind cradle]

Wait, does 4 voltaic cumulative?

[ivory surge]

Lol what

[wind cradle]

Lol i saw it wrong. Nevermind

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[pulsar charm]

could u show the slots and tier?

[knotty quarry]

Too late sorry, I just go by looks on the multitool

[cedar gate]

Hello peach.. can u share cords on this

[rich shadow]

its there in the msg, eissentam galaxy

starts out as a B i think

[peak kraken]

is there a list anywhere on the black market upgrades?

[gleaming stream]

Anything but freighter and exocraft upgrades I think?

[primal sonnet]

Euclid. +22.47, +86.85. I'm not sure where to reload game, maybe you can go there directly.

[daring wagon]

is this a good one to start with ?

[sick shell]

Hey do you need anything?

[compact pecan]

i'd say take it: higher class, more slots to be able to experiment with techs and have enough space to install weapon upgrade modules obtained from space station multitool vendors - remember that we can own up to 6 multitools, but can't sell or scrap unwanted ones, only exchange them for a new one

[daring wagon]

thanks a lot !!

[daring wagon]

I bought it (didn't exchange) how to check my 2 multitools now ?

[compact pecan]

quick menu, utilities, swap multitool

[daring wagon]

arf thanks sorry for that

[wind cradle]

Press X (PC) and select the left most "setting", there's an option to switch between multitools you have.

[pulsar charm]

Quick menu utilities swap multi tool

Remember to package your modules

[drowsy verge]

Euclid : ☝️

[candid cedar]

49.99 damage bonus. with 3 in a row and 1 two rows down for suppers

Euclid. On Planet "Baytheodore Shob" @ +9.31, +21.65.

Super charger slots, 3 in a row with 1 two rows below

Seed: 0xF7A559E91DB1FB16

https://www.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/comments/13y3ez5/4999_damage_s_class_sentinel_rifle_multitool/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[dense bluff]

What's your favourite multitool weapon?

I personally just always use the neutron cannon.

It has pretty much infinite ammo.

[tidal yoke]

Bolt caster on the sentinel MTs feels like I'm cheating for how fast it can melt sentinels.

[tawdry siren]

i just stick to brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr pulse splitter

[glad wren]

Scatter Blaster is my weapon of choice

[silk dagger]

Xobeurindj Galaxy

Sorry about the quality, took the pictures on my phone

[keen steppe]

Hey guys, I started playing again since I left on 4.0, the sentinel multitool is indeed the best one for DPS, even better than alien? (Wiki info)

[gleaming stream]

That seems to be the case but I dont have the exact data to back it up

[amber pawn]

Yep, no doubt about it

[queen ruin]

Someone shared this so it's not my find.

Still this looks like a hair dryer.

I need the hair dryer lol

[heady pond]

Finally my hair will look beautiful in space

[dense bluff]

Should be.

[keen steppe]

Thanks, now I just wait for a white or gold sentinel multi-tool to be found >.>

[gleaming stream]

There are only 2 models of Sentinel MTs

And those come in fixed colours

https://nmswp.azureedge.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/sentinel-multi-tools-1-520w.png

https://nmswp.azureedge.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/sentinel-multi-tools-2-520w.png

[keen steppe]

oh

=s

thanks, FriendlyFire. But that's an odd choice

[knotty quarry]

Euclid

[agile robin]

What's a good method to hunt for A or S class multitools?

I've never seen anything higher than a B class and have checked many small settlements and space stations.

[neat lynx]

3 star systems. Or just keep looking

[agile robin]

Ok thank you :)

[minor folio]

LF Black/Red Sentinel and Black/Red Exotic. @ me!

[dry mauve]

Where is this at

[primal sonnet]

Glyphs are in screenshot. And go to the location +22.47, +86.85 I gave.

If it's not that one, you may need to reload game somewhere in that system.

[dry mauve]

I found it

Thanks

[rare jackal]

If I take a multitool will it be available for others

[rotund pumice]

if you're with the multiplayer off, yes

if you have multplayer on, you'll take it for everyone

[rare jackal]

Thanks so if you share something multi-player off

[rotund pumice]

yep

[honest bone]

You can play with purchases free an upgrade any multitool to class S haha

[stone linden]

i like the second one

it has more detail

[agile robin]

does it become S class when all the slots are opened?

[glad wren]

No. Only upgrading the Class will make it a S Class
You need to upgrade Storage for all the slots to show. This may include Supercharger slots

[agile robin]

How do you upgrade the class?

[glad wren]

At any Spacestation find the Starship Outfitting station. It will give you the option to upgrade Storage and Class

[agile robin]

Oh ok cool! thank you

[glad wren]

Opps, not ANY spacestation. Only Non Outlaw will have a MT Upgrade station.

I was thinking Starships. For MTs you need the Multi-Tool Upgrade Station which cannot be found at Outlaw stations

[agile robin]

:D

oh wow 50k nanites

I am 30k short

lol

[glad wren]

💷

[agile robin]

probably quicker to find one hunting :D

[glad wren]

Scrap a lot of Starships. Sell the mods you get for nannites

[tawny tapir]

But where do i find/buy Resonance Amplifier?

[glad wren]

Did you collect the milestone reward?
If yes, then click on an empty slot in your Multi-Tool to install it

[gleaming stream]

It's a technology unique to current expedition

You get it from one of the milestones in phase 5 I think

[worthy rivet]

What is the best DPS for the multitool and what mods do you use to get that?

[abstract grotto]

i've read that it's sentinel multitools these days (after that, prob alien). here's some info on sentinel mts: #nms-multitools message

no clue about best mods or upgrades for these. others with more knowledge in this channel can prob chime in

[sharp glade]

guys, can someone help me? I'm in a journey to find a S Class Multitool Cabinet, but it is taking too long (More than 12 hours).

Can someone give me any tips? I've already watched some videos, but nothing is seeming to work

I've even found 4 Alien rifles in a row, but no S Class cabinet

and... that makes 5 Alien rifles in a row!

[lean jackal]

This thing has Horns! is it good?

[heady pond]

Look at that face tho

This will replace my 😮 emoji

[knotty quarry]

You see it too? I have thought of that ever since I saw that type of multitool! 🤣

[heady pond]

It’s the perfect face haha need to be a channel emoji

[knotty quarry]

Haha we'll see if Mythos approves of it

[heady pond]

Ohhhhh multi-mythos!

We’ve got a multiemoji

Quite literally

[knotty quarry]

Careful, you might get

👀

[heady pond]

never

[simple solstice]

Complete wave 5 of corrupted sentinel fight

[pulsar charm]

Easy if you have a good enough weapon

[rotund pumice]

😮

[jovial field]

was flying around random planet and randomly stumbled upon sentinel pillar. i did not resist urge to shut down the fucker, and hole heck, this multitool looks interesting, but scanner range of 0.0 makes me think, do i really want to claim it...

oh, wait, it doesn't really matter, other specs are indeed better than what i had before

[heady pond]

Omg

It has a face

I would assume after some upgrades it would increase but it is weird to base at 0

[pulsar charm]

Look at the scanner range number to it also is a face

0.0

[pulsar charm]

Either this seed is inaccurate or the seed exchanger is old...regardless this seed didn't send me to the planet for MT...if u could just post the glyphs if u know em

[glossy gulch]

Are the new multi tool models both represented on each dissonant planet? Or is it one per planet?

[glad wren]

I have seen both on some planets but not all.
Reload at the cabinet or spacestation to see if it changes.
I have also noticed that reloading may change the system seeds [Supercharger Slots] for that MT

[glad wren]

In order for us to see if it's a great one, remove all weapon modules. Then look at the Damage Potential. 483.3 is maximum
it can also be;
466.6
450.0
433.3
416.0

I am actually unsure about the very last digit, the 416.?

At S Class 👆

[pulsar charm]

@glad wren I forgot that ty, its 486.5

If anyone has better please lmk

[glad wren]

Remove the mining laser. If you get 483.3, then that is maximum damage

[pulsar charm]

Mining laser really alters dps??

[glad wren]

Yes, one of them adds a lot of damage to the Damage Potential
I think it's the Advanced Mining beam next to the Sentinel one adds a lot

[pulsar charm]

Yes u were right it was advanced mining tool, its reduced it to 450..which is sad..but I haven't found a 4 square sentinel rifle yet so hoping I can hit nasty numbers with a build

[glad wren]

There is a few posted up there 👆
You do have a really good find there!! Congrats!!

[pulsar charm]

Appreciate it, I cannot take credit tho wasn't me who originally founded this MT

[dense mulch]

@glad wren where is the 500 base coming from?

Was there an upgrade in singularity?

450 dp stripped down to unupgraded hijacked laser is what I'll consider meta @pulsar charm

[pulsar charm]

Please forgive my old head ass..do what partner ?? Lmaoo

[dense mulch]

I mean you have an almost top tier MT.

[pulsar charm]

Gotcha, well I do appreciate it...I am however hunting the "perfect MT" as I wish to exceed my numbers with alien and believe sentinel will do it by long shot

[dense mulch]

Yup, certainly.

I'm now curious about the unicorn

😅

[glad wren]

Maximum in game damage stats.

[dense mulch]

Yeah! I checked the chat in #no-mans-sky. The numbers are crazy 😅

[pulsar charm]

Join me in my search for this Unicorn lmao, well need all the help we can get

🤣

[dense mulch]

Hehehehe! Tbh it's too much to ask for.

This is pretty for now.
Sentinel 483.3
Alien 433.3
Experimental/Royal 400.0
Rifle 383.3
Pistol 333.3 (0 bonus)

[pulsar charm]

I've officially turned into a A10 with my pulse splitter..I empty 187 rounds in under 3 or 4 seconds 🤣

[glad wren]

Warthog 🚀

[amber pawn]

@dense mulch I've mentioned before, a perfect MT dmg bonus roll is unheard of, because rolls are calculated to so many decimal places. Seeing as how none has ever been discovered, what I gave you are the realistic max base damage stats for various mt types

But a Sentinel MT with a perfect 50.00% roll would in fact hit 500.0 base dmg

[dense mulch]

Interesting

[dawn briar]

Hey everyone. I just started playing NMS barely a week ago. Trying to learn the system (at my own pace.)
So I got a question about Supercharger Slots. I understand that Supercharge slots work best when close together due to adjacency bonus, although I couldn't find out whether a Box shape or T shape would be best.
In the meantime, I've been assuming that T-shaped is best due to a youtube video that indirectly makes the assertion that adjacency bonus doesn't work diagonally. But I've seen quite a few videos where box shaped ones are highly exalted. Is there any particular practical reason for that?

(The video in question is "The Decisive Guide to Adjacency Bonuses in No Man's Sky 2022 AKA Technology Synergy Bonuses")

[gleaming stream]

Adjacency bonus is based on the number of sides of modules for the same tech that are touching each other

So eg. in a line formation of 4 modules you get 3 pairs of sides touching each other:
[ ] - [ ] - [ ] - [ ]

While in box formation, with 4 modules you get 4 pairs:

[ ] - [ ]
 |     |
[ ] - [ ]

The more pairs of touching sides you can have, the better the adjacency bonus

[dawn briar]

Wouldn't that still make T arguably the best still, since the center point has 3 adjacent supercharged units empowering it? (At least for that one unit), while a square would make every single upgrade benefit from 2 sides boost?

I guess that makes T more for super specialization while Square is more generally well-rounded?

[gleaming stream]

That could be the case. I just give example of using 4 modules to demonstrate that having different arrangement can give you more adjacent sides

However most tech allows you to have 5 or 6 modules for it installed: 1 core module + 2 blueprints from Space Anomaly + 3 upgrades from space stations

So that box formation could have 2 more modules above it

Then the modules in middle row would get 3 adjacent sides each

This is for starship cause I dont have a good screenshot of this for MT

But it shows the idea I just described

You can see the one slot in middle row is supercharged

[dawn briar]

T could do the same thing by filling out the spots beside where there was a single upgrade

(I think?)

but yeah, I can see what you're getting at, I think.

I realize what I'm talking about is pretty much min-maxing, but I kinda wanna feel like I understood the mechanics before I waste time on grabbing/upgrading something unsatisfactory on a bad assumption.

[rotund pumice]

@dawn briar there is the optimals layout of MT tech in the pins

[dawn briar]

ah, I'll take a look at that. (I should look at the pins more often.)
Thank you

[rotund pumice]

np ^^

[pulsar charm]

Thats belongs in #nms-legacy-ships or #no-mans-sky chat

[gleaming stream]

Provide a screenshot of a Multitool tech that has 6 modules in a box formation like that and I'll be happy to remove it

Or do you have a personal vendetta against me and try to pick me because of a single image that serves the purpose of explaining the general idea?

[pulsar charm]

Why would you think think that geez I'm just making sure it isn't off topic for this channel you are fine

[dense mulch]

@pulsar charm In case there's something you're not okay with run !modhelp instead of calling someone out.
As for the image: it was intended to show the general idea trying to explain a concept. There's no need to pick up on it unnecessarily. We're here to help each other and FriendlyFire was trying to do just that.

If you have issues, once again as I have metnioned, run !modhelp and try to ignore the situation, or take it to DMs. Blocking is also an option.

[topaz dune]

I'm trying to get this one but I'm only seeing it as A Class, not S Class like in your screenshot. I wonder why

[primal sonnet]

I upgrade it, not nature S

[topaz dune]

I see

[lilac cove]

What the highest damage multitool the one I have atm does 12k damage and 1.2k scanner range?

[gleaming raptor]

Highest I see on the regular (achievable by the average user) is 50-60k, but that may have changed slightly. I can get to between 13k and 32k on most sentinel (best damage) tools without good supercharged slot placement and just the Scatter Blaster + upgrades installed.

[tawdry siren]

I get 35k with pulsesplitter, 48% dmg bonus sentinel weapon with 2x2 sc Slots and best x class upgrades

[lilac cove]

I don’t have a sentinel weapon where u get them I haven’t played for a long time

[wind cradle]

Dissonant systems, Harmonics camp, (or just use the addresses found here), but you shouldn't worry about that if you just began playing, enjoy the process.

[rotund pumice]

i did a 60k damage potential with the recently buffed neutron cannon

and basic S class upgrades

[gleaming stream]

Oh shoot

I was gonna comment that I member 50k being the max

But after NC was buffed like that, maybe it is the new champion?

[rotund pumice]

well

just basic stuff on alien riffle got it to 60k

no effort

i think with the right SC slots (i don't have ideal layout for NC) and the right tool, you can go crazy

[wooden bronze]

was an experimental with 4 square supercharged slots already found? I like to scan stuff

[frank pasture]

What stuff should i SC in my exosuit

[amber pawn]

@wooden bronze That 4th SC slot doesnt really do much for scanning, 2x2 is kinda unnecessary

@frank pasture depends on playstyle/preference

General wisdom would say best procedural movement upgrade/s, forbidden, and/or x class hazard

[hybrid ridge]

I didn’t realize multi tools could have this many slots wtf

[wooden bronze]

I see, thanks for the help, so what I am looking for in terms of scanner? I have by beloved experimental which I finally added all slots, but since I am a returning player, I don't know what should I go fo

[amber pawn]

3 slots adjacent is plenty, for the 3 procedural mods

[wooden bronze]

damn, mine is like this

looking for a new experimental it is

[ivory surge]

Lol yea

[wooden bronze]

thanks guys, got a new scanner

[glad wren]

T Shaped Supercharger Sentinel Rifle -EUCLID-
Maximum Damage Potential At 483.3 💪
With Coordinates! -40.89, -170.03
There is a Save Beacon and Base to Help Guide You!
This starts as an A Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
EUCLID
Enjoy!

[safe burrow]

Where are glyphs?

[tawdry siren]

2nd picture.....

[waxen bane]

Damn sexy i want

[wooden bronze]

check youtube, I just got it to maximize scanner and profit from those

[agile robin]

Any tips for what I should add to this multitool?

[glad wren]

Bolt Caster as your Sentinel Upgrade Mods only affect the Bolt Caster

[agile robin]

Ok cool, thank you

I noticed that the Mining laser on the expedition Multitool was super powerful, is that something we can upgrade a multitool in a normal playthrough to?

[azure barn]

Hey can you trade multi tools with people

[gleaming stream]

For Scatter Blaster consider placing the modules in a square formation

So that the SC slots can benefit from adjacency bonus as well

[agile robin]

Only reason they're like that is to use two supercharged slots :D

[agile robin]

oh!

[gleaming stream]

Yes but you're missing on adjacency bonus this way

The more sides touching the SC slots, the better

[agile robin]

I didn't realise it worked that way, thank you!

Are there Terrain Manipulator upgrades as well?

[gleaming stream]

Nope

[subtle star]

neat class B white multitool with 2 tooth looking things on top costs 2,035,000 Elucid

[agile robin]

ok

[frank portal]

Im assuming these types are better on a specific stat?

What’s a good type for damage?

[glad wren]

Sentinel MTs are Boss right now 💪

[frank portal]

hm, sentinel aight. Will try to look one out with that type, thanks

Was there a patch? When i teleport, my ship doesnt spawn near me anymore. It instead spawns on the space station of the system im in

[glad wren]

Lots of patches but that shouldn't happen. Try restarting your game

[frank portal]

It started happening yesterday, i just decided to ask about it today. It’s a bit inconsistent, but it sometimes spawns my ship on the space station instead of near my vicinity

Also, is there anything i can do with pungeum? Or do i just sell this

[agile robin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qz4kQFUVH0

wow

[frank portal]

Ive heard that damage differs depending on difficulty?

What difficulty is that?

[agile robin]

not sure

[barren brook]

Do Sentinel rifles spawn in any style other than this hideous monstrosity

this thing is so ugly it's terrible, all the spinning BS on it is tacky as hell

[frank portal]

Does the launch autocharger and solar sails stack when autoregenerating launch pad fuel?

[glad wren]

They also come in a Pistol version

[barren brook]

looks like a sawzall lol

[glad wren]

Power Washer

[barren brook]

Do pistol and rifle sentinel tools have identical stats since they're "sentinel" and not "pistol"/"rifle" like the standard multitools

or do sentinel pistols still have the mining bonus

[glad wren]

I hope this helps 😃
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1044568385679282177/1095290479647666226/MULTITOOL_CLASS_BONUSES.jpg

[barren brook]

how do I actually see those 'core' stats?

esp. since mining is completely obfuscated

I thought I remember seeing a mod once but I couldn't find it again

[glad wren]

I play on PS5. I know nothing about mods. Sorry 😳

[gleaming stream]

Sentinel MTs have only stats from the Sentinel table, game does not apply Pistol or Rifle stats based on the size, it's just a change in visuals

And no in vanilla game we have no way of seeing these core bonuses

[wind cradle]

What's the address of this box slotted garden sprayer?

[wind cradle]

For now, no

[glad wren]

You can find it in this video
https://youtu.be/n8A8d7NjV1s

[rotund pumice]

Wrong channel

[flat crag]

48.29% base damage

need a save editor to see stats.

without save editor i follow this guide https://www.reddit.com/r/NMSGlyphExchange/comments/13942uv/how_do_i_try_to_find_the_best_multitool_to/

[pulsar charm]

Did you just say that

[barren brook]

It doesn't look anything at all like sentinel tech, it's like steampunk

[fallow hornet]

I agree the sentinel MTs are really ugly

[glad wren]

Most killers are ☠️

[fallow hornet]

Anyone know if any alien MTs?

[glad wren]

Use the Search Function here. Search Alien Multi-Tool

[fallow hornet]

👍

[glad wren]

Now that I think of it, you'd probably get more results just searching the term Alien

[glad wren]

🥳 HERE'S THE ONE EVERYBODY IS ASKING FOR🥳

EUCLID
S Class Sentinel Rifle With All Supercharges Showing!
Big Boi Max Damage Potential At 483.3 💪
With Coordinates! -80.75, -169.66
There is a Save Beacon and Base to Help Guide You!
This starts as a S Class, NO NEED TO UPGRADE!
EUCLID
Enjoy!

[subtle star]

any tips on finding royal multi tools

[glad wren]

They only come from Sentinel Pillars. You can buy Sentinel Boundary maps from space stations to help you locate Sentinel Pillars

[subtle star]

alright thanks

[glad wren]

#nms-multitools message

[amber pawn]

@glad wren Thankya,I was waiting for his answer on who discovered it, lol. Baleeted

[dreamy hound]

i think bc difficulty = more health on enemies, multi tool dmg scales as well to fit it

[amber pawn]

@dreamy hound Nope, the only things that affect MT damage aside from its stats/layout are difficulty settings, ie. setting Enemies to Weak will more than double damage values, whereas Challenging will reduce visible dmg values by ~1/3rd

Derp, rereading your comment you may have meant the same as I lol

[dreamy hound]

yea

[pulsar charm]

Running normal save rn, best I can get is 163k

[gentle wind]

looks amazing

[glad wren]

I am very glad that you like it! 😍

[pallid escarp]

I’ve got a fun multi tool question, does max damage potential apply only to mining beam or to all weapons?

[pulsar charm]

Correct me if I'm wrong anyone, the max potential damage is based of your mods individual dps capabilities

[pallid escarp]

That would make sense

[pulsar charm]

Meaning u have a pulse splitter that hits 30k dps potential, then build say a scatter shot and it jumps to 80k, this means your "highest dps" is with scatter shot

But go NC build, its mighty nasty

[glad wren]

Damage Potential only applies to Weapon Modules.
It has no effect on Mining or Scanning

[pallid escarp]

Thank you!

I also find it funny that the resident multi tool expert in the channel has the name “Milwaukee”

Makes my machinist heart flutter

[glad wren]

I am by no means an expert on MTs 😳
I live in Milwaukee. Home of the BEST Machinist in our universe 💪
Also home to Milwaukee Tool and Harley Davidson

[light cobalt]

which multitool is best to buy for starting out

[glad wren]

It costs nothing. You just need to repair it with resources that can be found on the same planet that you find the MT on.
It starts as a S Class, no need to upgrade
#nms-multitools message

[light cobalt]

how do i use the coords to find it

[glad wren]

Do you have your 16 glyphs yet? We use the glyphs to travel to other systems. If you do not have them, get them as soon as possible.
If you do not have them, use the MT you started with until you get them or find a better [any kind] MT until you do

[light cobalt]

idk what a glyph is

i just got this game 2 days ago lol

[glad wren]

Yes, that's OK. Do the story missions and have fun and learn. At the stage you're in, there is no big rush to get a great MT

Once you get your glyphs, the rest of our worlds will open up to you!
Enjoy and have fun!

[gentle wind]

Need to try and find it now haha

[glad wren]

I have placed a Save Beacon, Comm Ball and Base to Help Guide You!

[fervent token]

just got it tyvm!

also its insane how we cant delete multi tools

[gentle wind]

Yeah thank you! I’ll figure out how to get there.
I am very very new. 🤣

[glad wren]

I hope my earlier post can help you!
#nms-multitools message

[gentle wind]

Ah yeah I see, thank youuu

[limpid zephyr]

just found this gem with 3 supercharged slots in the middle and all adjacent to one another, and plus I love the color of it as an added bonus

[glad wren]

Rhombus Shaped SC Pistol! 🥳 -EUCLID-
RELOAD AT CABINET IF YOU SEE A RIFLE
Big Boi Max Damage Potential at 483.3 💪
With Coordinates! +38.89, -176.01
There is a Save Beacon and Base to Help Guide You!
This starts as a B Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
RELOAD AT CABINET IF YOU SEE A RIFLE
EUCLID
Enjoy!

[limpid zephyr]

I found four of these B class pistols and 3 C class sentinel rifles doing the expedition last week!

[glad wren]

Do you mean Pistol?

[pulsar charm]

That is a pistol

The rifle is the other one

[glad wren]

Smotzer pinged me about a Rifle, I am confused 🤪

[pulsar charm]

No he didn't

When I click on it

It goes to your recent post and that's a pistol

Lol

[glad wren]

Now you're confused. Read his Reply to me, please

[pulsar charm]

Read it more closely he said

I found four of these b class PISTOLS

Not rifles

Lol

The rifles came after

[glad wren]

"And 3 Class C Rifles"

[pulsar charm]

Yep so they are mainly trying to say that they found a lot of sentinel pistols and rifles the rifles came second which means it wasn't the main thing they were talking about

Correct me if I'm wrong

[glad wren]

Thank you for stepping in and clearing that up for us. I appreciate it

[pulsar charm]

Also I'm not trying to attack anyone here

I'm just as confused as you are of everything going on

Im just giving my point of view

Sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you

😅

[glad wren]

It's all good 😃
This is a place to engage in Discourse 👍

[pulsar charm]

To be fair this was kinda confusing

Lol

But they kinda talk like I do it seems so it isn't very straight forward to the convo

[glad wren]

Thanks to you, I understand what he meant now.
I really do appreciate it, thank you! 😃
I was confused

[pulsar charm]

Np

[pulsar charm]

Also amazing post and also I've been meaning to tell you I'm sorry about the other stuff in the past with your previous post it turns out that planet with the 4 SC slot sentinel rifle is permabugged for me and the base won't load at all

Idk why

[glad wren]

Thank you for your kind words!
I am hunting another 4 SQ rifle right now! Hopefully with 483.3 Max Damage Potential 💪

[limpid zephyr]

what? did I do something wrong?

[limpid zephyr]

oh I was just trying to say that I happened to find a lot of these sentinel multitools in general last week, just trying to join the community

[pulsar charm]

Ok well dm it directly and help me out with the portal stuff because I think the problem I encountered happened because I didn't have my server connection on when I whent through the portal

[glad wren]

You did nothing wrong.
I was just confused. I haven't had enough coffee yet ☕

Welcome to this amazing community!!

[pulsar charm]

Btw I also play on a Nintendo switch that hasn't been cleaned since I was 14 and I'm now 18 and it can't be cleaned because nobody wants to clean it and Nintendo can't do it because they have been doing bad business lately

[limpid zephyr]

ahh okay good, I am like kinda awakward at smoothly joining communities so thanks! and I totally get that! Thanks for the welcome!! I think the game is AMAZING now

[pulsar charm]

Also my Nintendo switch is a first gen

;—;

[glad wren]

You'll fit into this community perfectly!
It almost feels like we've been waiting for you!!
Welcome 🖖

[limpid zephyr]

ahahah yeah yeah okay now LOL

[glad wren]

You love NMS! You're just like all the rest of us

[limpid zephyr]

haha well yeah okay then yes I'll fit in perfectly

I had tried NMS back when it launched and then didnt really get into again until 2/3 weeks ago and was like WOW they finally fufilled what they intended to and was sold!!

[glad wren]

I started 6 months ago so I missed most of the bad stuff
If we continue, we should do it in #no-mans-sky We are clogging this channel up

[limpid zephyr]

okay

[pulsar charm]

Wheres the mute for off topic ???

Oh wait just me?

🤣

[indigo monolith]

Found it, you are wonderful!

[fallow hornet]

How rare are alien multi tools? In 70 hours I haven’t seen a single one naturally

[glad wren]

They are rare but if you keep hunting, you'll eventually find one

[fickle vine]

i find them a fair amount naturally, guess i warp a lot though

[glad wren]

T Shaped Supercharger Sentinel Pistol! -EUCLID-
Big Boi Maximum Damage Potential at 483.3 💪
With Coordinates! -62.91, -11.16
There is a Save Beacon and Base to Help Guide You!
This starts as a C Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
EUCLID
Enjoy!

[amber pawn]

@proper karma

[proper karma]

SHEEEEEEESH thanks!

[pale light]

How do you uprgrade the class of your multi tool?

[pulsar charm]

Go to #nms-questions and ask there

[glad wren]

At the Space Station

[pulsar charm]

They already got help

[glad wren]

Hello crimson red!
Why the name change?

[pulsar charm]

Huh

Oh I changed my name because I'm a furry and my gamer name and furry name is CrimWolf

So I whent with furry entity CrimWolf

[pulsar charm]

Lol

[pulsar charm]

Uh what just happened to chat

[dry lichen]

Cleaning up your off topic

[pulsar charm]

On my end the whole chat just disappeared like everything

[dry lichen]

Restart discord

[pulsar charm]

It fixed itself

Also I wish i could post multitools here but I never encounter any good ones

;—;

[glad wren]

4 Squared Supercharger Sentinel Pistol! -EUCLID-
Big Boi Maximum Damage At 483.3 💪
With Coordinates! -31. 25, +112.18
There is a Save Beacon and Base to Help Guide You!
This starts as a B Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
I forgot to take the B Class picture, sorry 😳
EUCLID
Enjoy!

@proper karma 👆

[proper karma]

Love it! Ping me in this stuff anytime! Thank you

@glad wren are you able to check base damage with save editor?

[glad wren]

No, I am on PS5

The Damage Bonus in the save editor is irrelevant.
The game requires %5 of Damage Bonus to raise the damage by 1 level
Hence a %45.01 Damage Bonus will yield the same damage as a %49.99 Damage Bonus in game.

I hope this helps!

[proper karma]

That's fair. I was just curious. I don't know if I'm 100% convinced on last part. I have a tool that's 46 and change base damage and on player be like 141 and one with 49 base damage that hit like 143 with same exact mods and layout.

Talking just a point or 2 but there Is damage ranges in said that 483.3 going from 45 to 49

[glad wren]

We need to find the fabled but possible %50 Damage Bonus which would show up as a 500 Damage potential

[proper karma]

Yeah don't know. Highest base I've seen is 49.97 I believe

[glad wren]

That's why I'm still hunting them 😈

[proper karma]

Heard that. You are the man no doubt. At least 7 times outta 10 when someone sends me a tool to check out for pvp I can trace it back to you here or on reddit

[glad wren]

I found a whole planet full of T, L and S Class with adjoining superchargers.
All at Big Boi 483.3 max damage.
I'm going to post it sometime today. I need to figue out how to post a whole planet with Big Boi MTs

[proper karma]

That's awesome. A treasure indeed. Please ping me when you do!

[fickle vine]

@glad wren do you have any L shape sentinel locations?

[glad wren]

Yes, I will post them soon!

[fickle vine]

nice, ive been searching for one all day haha

[glad wren]

L Shaped Supercharger Sentinel Rifle! -EUCLID-
Maximum Damage Potential At 483.3 💪
With Coordinates! -43.48, +70.66
There is a Save Beacon and Base To Help Guide You!
This starts as a B Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
EUCLID
Enjoy!

There is another L on the same planet 👆
Max Damage Potential 483.3 💪
Coordinates +30.82, -143.94
This starts as a B Class also
There is a Save Beacon and Comm Ball to Help Guide You

.
Same Planet As Above 👆
T Shaped Supercharger Sentinel Rifle -EUCLID-
Maximum Damage Potential At 483.3 💪
With Coordinates! +28.59, +159.26
There is a Save Beacon and Base to Help Guide You!
This starts as an A Class, you will need to upgrade to see all the Superchargers
EUCLID
Enjoy!

Same Planet As Above 👆

Two S Class Sentinel Rifles! -EUCLID-
NO NEED TO UPGRADE!
Both With Max Damage Potential At 483.3 💪
BOTH WITH ALL SUPERCHARGERS SHOWING!
There are Save Beacons and Comm Balls at Both!
EUCLID
Enjoy!

@proper karma @fickle vine 👆 All on the same amazing planet!
Enjoy! 😈

[proper karma]

Amazing find fam!

[fickle vine]

👍

[woeful wind]

I picked this one up

[ornate sorrel]

Hey everybody, new to this discord. Im looking for a new multi-tool. Anyone know where a good one is.