make /stream only available for media ranks

[spring plaza]

so it can't be abused

[broken crag]

No

I don't enjoy getting stalked while warring

[rare compass]

Just buy silverbull rank and hide armor...?

[broken crag]

Not that anyone cares about guilds...

[hexed sandal]

then make media rank easier to get

[spring plaza]

what is wrong with not allowing people to abuse /stream

[broken crag]

Just because I am not a content creator does not mean I do not have a use for it that isn't abusing

[spring plaza]

how are you using it

[broken crag]

As someone who wars alot in a guild called fuy alot of times when we war people try to stalk/follow us around to get our builds

Which is considered harassment and is against the rules

But what matters to Me is keeping certain stuff private I do not see the issue

[rare compass]

Also like

Who is abusing it and what is this "abuse"

[spring plaza]

irl traders/botters

[rare compass]

i dont think that removing their ability to /stream would solve that problem

it would cause more problems than it would solve imo

Not that irl trading is a concern anymore since they added silverbull shares 😁

[spring plaza]

ok then what about botters

[rare compass]

.

[spring plaza]

ok then what problems would it cause

[rare compass]

People get stalked while doing shit lol

and the mods dont really do anything about harassment reports unless you throw a temper tantrum

it should not require as much effort as it does to get people off your ass lol

maybe its not a concern for most people but i do not think the issue of botters and irl traders abusing /stream is as prevalent as you think it is

[spring plaza]

ok and if they added an anti-stalking system

[rare compass]

Good luck convincing them to add that

[rare compass]

i mean i may be totally wrong on this but i dont think removing /stream would make much of a difference in stopping irl trades/botters

the people doing that sort of stuff arent doing it just because they can avoid being seen in /stream, theyll be more careful/find other ways of avoiding being seen

removing it is kinda unnecessary

[kind fiber]

How are people abusing /stream I’m confused

[timid light]

/steam IS the anti stalking system already????

its a relatively harmless command, theres no need to strip it away

[junior eagle]

People who don’t have media rank sometimes still want to stream

And also its legit useful outside of guild warring

As a privacy option

[hexed sandal]

/stream already doesnt work in hunted where else would it matter

[junior eagle]

Yea

Wars but the actual war community likes it so why remove it

[leaden bluff]

Myself(before I got media) and several other creators both media and not are in agreement that it's actually a bit too easy to get media.

Also as a media rank who wouldnt be affected by /stream being media only I feel it should NOT be. Plenty of people make content without being media rank and could benefit from having /stream, and it isnt fair to take it away from them and anybody else that doesn't want to be bothered just because a few people abuse it

[tropic cairn]

that might possibly be to encourage people to go for it

[leaden bluff]

We didn't feel it needed to be a lot higher or anything, just a bit higher 😛

[tropic cairn]

yeah sure i agree it's very easy to get lmao

[winged valve]

Anyone who wants /stream to exist needs to write out a paragraph on why it should be without mentioning any form of farming

Don't want messages? Block them, or even turn chat off.
Don't want to be interacted with? Sucks. You're playing an MMO.
Don't want to be caught exploiting? Sucks. Don't exploit.
Don't want to be caught botting? Sucks. Don't bot.
Don't want to be caught flying? Sucks. Don't fly.
Don't want people to know its you farming the mobs with bombs? Sucks. You're playing an MMO.

[limber wing]

I think enjoying Wynncraft (except when playing hunted) as a singleplayer game is perfectly fine

[winged valve]

ok actually you have enough of a point i removed the "Don't want to see people? Sucks. You're playing an MMO. "

Hiding others from yourself isn't harmful

If stream worked so that you dont' see anything I wouldn't care, but it shouldn't hide you from others

[fiery folio]

it should hide everyone from you, not the other way around.

[leaden bluff]

One of the purposes of /stream is allowing you to play the game without being harassed in person. Hiding other players prevents you from seeing it, but if they can see you they are fully capable of killing every mob and opening every chest around you to prevent you from getting them.

This is the only valid use of /stream that justifies it existing.

But if we are being honest the only people who would be harassed to this degree would qualify for media and they could use the mdia world to escape it(and also have things like shouts hidden without needing to turn off chat)

[foggy meadow]

just when you are proffing on a spot and there are multiple people it can be nice to turn them off with /stream when it gets crowded

[fiery folio]

^how about instead of that we use an example of a person being harassed to punish said people who do so instead of avoiding them, cleaning up the community in the process 8D

[fiery folio]

yea that's the only valid use i accept for /stream

[foggy meadow]

Cleaning up the community 🤨

[broken crag]

just 4 days ago 5 GsW members stalked me and my guild while we were warring corkus/desert to see our builds

Sure I did report them and they did get warned, but if they see what we use they see what we use no warning gonna erase what they saw

[fiery folio]

but u shouldnt need to go in /stream to do that. they should get warned for doing it and u should be able to hide armor to other players its that simple

[spring plaza]

isn't this just like

an issue of moderation then

[fiery folio]

also incredible how people stalk others to see their sets. not cringe at all. average warrers

[sudden aurora]

I heard it's also helpful during lootruns so you can clearly see the path and no one is blocking your sight or chests

[tropic cairn]

that is i think the poorest justification i have ever heard for lring in stream

[hearty verge]

you can get media by posting money making videos...

[leaden bluff]

I mean, probably. I didn't so I wouldn't know 😛

[hearty verge]

wdym

[tropic cairn]

the real moneymaking guide is the zhight island totem tutorial

[leaden bluff]

I earned media through other content, not money making videos. I have uploaded exactly 4 money making videos to my channel total, and 2 of them were last month

[spring plaza]

wait no actually it's both a moderating issue and a guild issue because guilds care way too much about their wars

[broken crag]

me when people enjoy other things than me

🥴

[junior eagle]

You mean you ENJOY WARRING?? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU GROSS

[faint sundial]

forgetting that people can afk macro/hack in /stream and get away with it unless a mod manually checks on them (on my way to randomly check players for no reason)

[spring plaza]

(i have already said this and the warring people do not care)

[broken crag]

make mods be able to see people in /stream ion know

[hexed sandal]

Afk macroing is going to happen regardless of /stream

[faint sundial]

we can but we rely heavily on player reports

[broken crag]

just because it has issues doesnt mean it has to be completely removed for everyone

[junior eagle]

It should still be accessible to the general public, what if someone starts streaming Wynn? Should they not be able to access streamer mode just because they aren’t media rank?

[broken crag]

I get the fact /stream has issues with it but it also has alot of good things about it

[junior eagle]

I am completely against making media rank the only people who can use it since they have their own server to play on, and also since media requires a decent amount to get

[broken crag]

yea

if you remove it from the general public it kinda loses most of its purpose

[junior eagle]

Like obviously fix the issues it has, I am not going to deny it doesn’t have issues

[spring plaza]

it is 800 subs and 10+ wynncraft videos

[junior eagle]

Thats a lot for some people

[broken crag]

800 subs is alot

[junior eagle]

It took some Youtubers years to get 100

[broken crag]

starting out from scratch in the wynn youtube community 800 is alot

[junior eagle]

And these Youtubers weren’t mainly playing Wynncraft

They were playing popular games

[spring plaza]

although i do agree that this is a pretty steep curve

[faint sundial]

just gonna say like sometimes mods aren't online to see /report usage but feel free to msg one of us on discord or make a player report if you are being harassed or anything

but yeah you're right that there's a lot of positives about /stream

player report on the forums*

[junior eagle]

Its positives and uses outweigh the negatives, and also the negatives aren’t exclusive to stream

[broken crag]

arent /report messages saved somewhere

[mystic heart]

AMPHEROSS YOUR IDEA IS NOT GOOD PLEASE DO NOT SAY IT ANY MORE

Grrrr

[junior eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/grrr-heheheha-clash-royale-king-emote-gif-24764227

[faint sundial]

so is everything else in the same place and there's a lot of stuff 🐔 I don't think anyone would be able to look through

we need more mods for real (please apply I am asking you to apply)

[spring plaza]

shut up notafish lover

[mystic heart]

my opinion on notafish is neutral . .

[junior eagle]

No I will not

[broken crag]

please refrain from using harsh language against my bestie good110

[junior eagle]

Otherwise I might have to be responsible…..

[faint sundial]

I will ignore you when you are at your lowest hour

[junior eagle]

Ong

[spring plaza]

i was thinking of asking to close this thread but i feel like it should stay up

[junior eagle]

You can’t close it, unless a mod locks it

[faint sundial]

hi

[spring plaza]

do you think this should be closed

[faint sundial]

idk I don't really care either way

[spring plaza]

do closed suggestions in #1019649786799996980 get looked at

[faint sundial]

❌

[mystic heart]

me and my friend got ignored but we're still holding on, thankfully the mod team is forgiving so we still have a chance at getting in despite our misbehavior strikes that we've come across since our applications were sent in, thank you for your encouragement.

[spring plaza]

is this fr or

[mystic heart]

yeah

[winged valve]

the thing with mods is they really don't want mod tools leaked or they need re-written basically

So they need people they believe absolutely under no circumstances will even give the slightest hint on what they can do

[mystic heart]

u can easily tell what tools mods have if u pay enough attention

[winged valve]

if you say so

[faint sundial]

leaking mod tool /fly

[junior eagle]

UH OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN MUTE YOU AND BAN YOU

[mystic heart]

most things devs/admins don got time for so like anything being done cna be narrowed down

[broken crag]

admins got alot of power

[mystic heart]

some mod didnt wanna say if they could view ips or not but i am so smart i figured it out myself

[rare compass]

Give Pontosaurus Media Rank

[rare compass]

+1

[broken crag]

+1

[mystic heart]

+1

[mystic heart]

can i have it too+1

[modern tulip]

how do you abuse /stream 😭

[spring plaza]

🗿 you don't know

[modern tulip]

pretty sure if you macro or som shit mods can see you anyway

[winged valve]

illegal mob farming, botting, exploiting in general

you don't get reported which is a MASSIVE bonus, even if mods can see you

[rare compass]

Is that really that huge of an issue

[winged valve]

yes.

[junior eagle]

Smh sharing glitch abuse

[rare compass]

that its worth removing access to /stream for everyone

[junior eagle]

No.

[mystic heart]

botting isnt that bad if u think about it..

[rare compass]

i somehow doubt it

[broken crag]

ion care if someone else is hacking bro

[spring plaza]

🎊 🎊 🎊 wooooo just got another liken't on this thread woooo 🎊 🎊 🎊

[broken crag]

i rather have /stream access so i dont get stalked

[modern tulip]

tf illegal mob farming 😭

[winged valve]

I think removing /stream isn't needed btw

[modern tulip]

aint no way they made some mobs that respawn so u can grind illegal to grind

[junior eagle]

You aren’t even close to people like HeckinGay or Panderift on that front, dw

[winged valve]

Just make it so YOU aren't hidden from others in /stream (stuff like /find and /msg is fine though)

but your player should be visible at all times

[spring plaza]

ok but those suggestions are actually stupid this one has a point

[junior eagle]

HeckinGay’s hunted suggestion was just a massive cope

[spring plaza]

at least 9 people agree with me 🥹

[winged valve]

this thread and my 'mythics should drop in hunted' both have 41

I agree with the idea but disagree it should be removed, just edited

[junior eagle]

It needs some changes obv, but it def shouldn’t be removed from the general public

[winged valve]

you could just re-release thread with changed idea, as updating it here wont get any notice

[spring plaza]

meh that's probably for someone else to do

[winged valve]

ok

#1073400354143752242 message ok

[sudden aurora]

It was obv a hint at sniping lootruns