/stream should not hide the player visually | Wynncraft • MMORPG Minecraft Server | Page 1

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 12:29 AM

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No the command doesn't need removed. Just a tweak. This patches almost every issue with it. The fact that you don't get messages, can't be found with /find, etc are all fine. Even the hiding name in chat when talking (Although I personally think that one is stupid since you just mouse over it anyway)

Players should not be hidden however. The command is heavily abused by people for malicious use and the people who do want to use it for the other reasons should be allowed to. I do not consider being "Sniped" in a lootrun reason for why you should be hidden, it is an aspect of the game.

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If you have an actual situation where you need to be fully invisible, please state why it is in the comments that does not include personal gain

grim goblet Feb 10, 2023, 12:37 AM

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insert angry lootrunner typing

mighty sail Feb 10, 2023, 12:48 AM

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i disagreee

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 12:55 AM

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plush kettle If you have an actual situation where you need to be fully invisible, please sta...

trolls chasing someone and hurting their gameplay (such as killing all of the nearby mobs or looting all of the chests in front of a streamer for example)

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 12:56 AM

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chilly ivy trolls chasing someone and hurting their gameplay (such as killing all of the ne...

ok, called targeted harassment and is against the rules. command not needed.

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 12:57 AM

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mighty sail i disagreee

thanks

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 12:59 AM

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bold to assume anyone other than me reads the rules :troll: ~~or that people would know the report command which i assume exists and people would respond to it~~
could take some time for mods to respond tho, it would be a shame to have to stop playing for a few hours to a day even (i have no idea how fast mods respond but i doubt generally its within 5-10 minutes, that would be insanely fast and awesome)

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:00 AM

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this is going to happen to maybe 2 people and mods will deal with it, this command effects everyone

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:00 AM

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how does it effect everyone?

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:01 AM

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bots get away with afk farming with stream and it effects economy

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scrap prices are an example

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:01 AM

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scrap prices if they existed saltroll

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:01 AM

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there isa reason for that 🤯

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:01 AM

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(scrap is useless)

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:02 AM

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people dupe le with it too

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:02 AM

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fortunately thats against the rules

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i assume at least i sure hope it is

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:02 AM

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unfortuantely it is a lot easier to get away with when you are invsi

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if anything /stream hurts your argument since the person harassing you could be invis preventing you from reporting them

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:02 AM

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chilly ivy how does it effect everyone?

its a minor command that not many people honestly even know about without being part of the wynn community or watching streams and it is being abused by a few people for a few small misc items

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:03 AM

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plush kettle if anything /stream hurts your argument since the person harassing you could be ...

fair

mighty sail Feb 10, 2023, 1:03 AM

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plush kettle scrap prices are an example

what's wrong with scrap prices

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:03 AM

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a lot of people know about it. If it wasn't used I wouldn't be making this thread.

mighty sail Feb 10, 2023, 1:03 AM

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plush kettle if anything /stream hurts your argument since the person harassing you could be ...

they cant see u if theyre in stream

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:03 AM

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mighty sail what's wrong with scrap prices

The supply of scrap was heavily botted

mighty sail Feb 10, 2023, 1:03 AM

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scrap shouldnt be expensive anyways .

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:03 AM

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I didn't say it should be

mighty sail Feb 10, 2023, 1:03 AM

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mighty sail they cant see u if theyre in stream

whatever wt bout this

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:04 AM

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you can find people in stream anyway

mighty sail Feb 10, 2023, 1:04 AM

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how

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:04 AM

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i mean, i don't mean like triangulate you, but its not hard to find where someone is

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~~mostly because you know where they are not~~

mighty sail Feb 10, 2023, 1:05 AM

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iono it felt much harder to annoy/harass/whatever most people in /stream

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:05 AM

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Like think about it. Think about the map size. You are basically playing hide and seek WITH movement spells, scrolls etc. You shouldn't need invisibility.

mighty sail Feb 10, 2023, 1:05 AM

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and u cant see chat msgs so u cant really see their reactions either why wud u do something so boring

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:05 AM

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Then maybe don't do it to begin with, and mods deal with proven targeted harassment

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:05 AM

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plush kettle Like think about it. Think about the map size. You are basically playing hide an...

also wait this is saying "it is easy to hide"

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and you just said "it is not hard to find someone"

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am i misunderstanding or smth?

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:06 AM

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I meant for the cases you all were saying like lootrunning, you can find what has been looted already

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but as i said in thread, i really do not care (like dont bother) if you are being sniped, sucks to suck

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:06 AM

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ah yeah idrc about lootrunning either

mighty sail Feb 10, 2023, 1:06 AM

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iono if i misread but the dude was talkin bout stuff like killing somebody mobs

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:07 AM

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ok, move worlds with my proposal of /stream enabled

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:07 AM

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if you are getting sniped rip just report em for targetted harassment saltroll

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:07 AM

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my suggestion wasn't remove /stream for a reason

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:07 AM

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huh

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:07 AM

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thread title

chilly ivy Feb 10, 2023, 1:07 AM

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oh yeah

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man slowmode sucks

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:08 AM

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so true

strange gull Feb 10, 2023, 1:21 AM

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good idea

ivory bison Feb 10, 2023, 1:30 AM

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Lolol

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Do mods use ./stream or diff command

grim goblet Feb 10, 2023, 1:32 AM

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no but would be hilarious if all mods had to play the game with “YOU ARE PLAYING ON PLAY.WYNNCRAFT.COM” flashing on their screen during mod work

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 1:54 AM

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We don't tell them about the YOU ARE MODERATING ON PLAY.WYNNCRAFT.COM title

marble crow Feb 10, 2023, 2:20 AM

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Wait stream mode makes people invisible?

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Every time i see someone talking about /stream it sounds more and more insane

plush kettle Feb 10, 2023, 2:21 AM

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yes, it makes you invisible to others, so people use it to do illegal stuff since they can't get seen for /report

real aspen Feb 10, 2023, 3:49 AM

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how to bypass /stream guide:
-hop worlds
-turn on playerghosts

real aspen Feb 10, 2023, 4:34 AM

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I wonder how this thread got to be such a heated debate when bots literally did shit like this with /stream

wanton ingot Feb 10, 2023, 4:42 AM

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I'm honestly impressed they moved the merchant all the way over there.

real aspen Feb 10, 2023, 4:54 AM

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Well we suspected it was with aura prison, because it was suspended in the air

real aspen Feb 10, 2023, 4:55 AM

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wanton ingot I'm honestly impressed they moved the merchant all the way over there.

Which isnt really impressive and also no longer exists

wanton ingot Feb 10, 2023, 5:01 AM

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real aspen Which isnt really impressive and also no longer exists

Aah old ss

real aspen Feb 10, 2023, 5:02 AM

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Old but bots probably still farm scrap in /stream anyways

leaden lotus Feb 10, 2023, 5:02 AM

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Well, /stream is expecially nice if you do an ironman run if some bossrush and dont want people to sabotage you

real aspen Feb 10, 2023, 5:02 AM

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leaden lotus Well, /stream is expecially nice if you do an ironman run if some bossrush and d...

Well yes, except…

real aspen Feb 10, 2023, 5:02 AM

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real aspen how to bypass /stream guide: -hop worlds -turn on playerghosts

There are workarounds

wanton ingot Feb 10, 2023, 5:03 AM

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real aspen Old but bots probably still farm scrap in /stream anyways

They did nerf profitability of that by changing the wand from 3 emeralds to 6 like everything else. Not defending the botting, just mentioning that recent change.

real aspen Feb 10, 2023, 5:04 AM

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wanton ingot They did nerf profitability of that by changing the wand from 3 emeralds to 6 li...

I didnt suggest you were defending botting lol

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Still profits, cant imagine how many accounts you need to see value though

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Mfs better off botting pot grinding lol

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Wait no thats unleveled

wanton ingot Feb 10, 2023, 5:05 AM

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I'm just covering my ass. People got on me yesterday thinking I was defending the p2w aspect of the shares when all I did was explain how it was allowed by the eula and compare it to other games to share the reason why they would add it. Without ever saying it was a good idea.

Not taking chances now.

real aspen Feb 10, 2023, 5:06 AM

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Good times 🤮

mystic ivy Feb 13, 2023, 11:25 PM

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wanton ingot They did nerf profitability of that by changing the wand from 3 emeralds to 6 li...

necro but its not really nerfed

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scrap was 12 back then and now its 16

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and it was 20le/h atleast back then so even if it was halved to 10 it would still be way too op for an account with no reqs. scrapping needs changed in general (potentially low level gear cant be scrapped and low level crafteds are repaired with emeralds)

plush kettle Feb 14, 2023, 12:30 AM

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wanton ingot They did nerf profitability of that by changing the wand from 3 emeralds to 6 li...

i did it and said they should all be 12e

mystic ivy Feb 14, 2023, 3:16 AM

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maybe I should do it again now that scrap is 16 😋

#/stream should not hide the player visually