📚lore_discussion

[low ether]

Nah nah take out the /j, I'm in full agreement with it as a not joke
(and then it gets edited after I send that oww)

[whole river]

It’s because the material real world works separately from the planes of influence

[chilly tulip]

Like what makes a “Realm Beast” come into existence? Do we know?

Or do they just happen

[whole river]

And presumably Orphion or saphanis would’ve sensed a full material realm beast if there was one

[slender copper]

Because Anathema was like "Orphion and Saphanis are going to tear this physical realm apart because of my death, it's up to you now! Ok byyeeee!" And left us with no other dialog. That being the ending is so like... WHAT???

[whole river]

I imagine there either isn’t one yet(evidence being the anathema dialogue) or there can’t be one

[chilly tulip]

Personally I think a mortal Realm Beast that reincarnates would still work in that framework

Something that isn’t directly on the same level, and isn’t knowingly a realm beast, but something still present

[slender copper]

No I edited it because you said it, lol

[whole river]

That’s presumably what anathema saw in us

It’s odd since she says it’s familiar to her

Something beyond the nothing we have within us

[chilly tulip]

Like maybe instead an “aspect of the world?” I hesitate to say Scion because we know what Scions are

But like

A more subtle Scion of the Material? Or something? Idk

[whole river]

Whatever it is, anathema kinda hyped it up to be able to challenge the realm beasts

So we just need to get yoked up

[slender copper]

I also want to mention that Anathema said that it didn't come from a notable source, it was simply there. And if we believe that scion's powers come from said realm beast, it is possible that we aren't a scion either. Unless I'm mistaken.

[drifting aurora]

we do want to add some more of this

[whole river]

What if we’re the material realm’s reaction to the planes of influence damaging it for so long

[slender copper]

HOPE! Let's goooo!

[whole river]

Like how a body reacts to a foreign invader

We’re like the white blood cell

[drifting aurora]

but the majority of post-fruma story fallout is going to be in the epilogue, which is still a ways off

[regal spire]

Fallout…

I’m scayoid 😔

[lavish knot]

Back to the wtp mines I go....

[warm flicker]

manifesting the release of the alternative dialogue for queens recruit

[regal spire]

Manifesting the Fruma Epilogue rn

Horrified for Wynn. It’s so over, the minute we leave the raid

[rain saffron]

We are so cooked

[warm flicker]

nah my buddy kevin will keep wynn safe

[regal spire]

Everyone’s just straight up guon die

[formal bridge]

we just need to teach soosu about the nukes we saw during WTp

[regal spire]

I wonder how many casualties the final Wynn questline will have

[formal bridge]

then we can have MAD in a more traditional sense

[rain saffron]

Everyone’s gonna die I’m scared

[formal bridge]

nuke the planet as soon as orph or saph come in

[slim belfry]

a few minutes after first raid completion one of the beasts telepathically tells everyone that they're gonna invade now

[regal spire]

I have an announcement:

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-announcement-speech-sonic-the-hedgehog-report-gif-16600754

[vestal rivet]

Orphion conscripts all of the Elves to try to pull an Elder Scrolls Aldmeri Dominion move

[warm flicker]

yo wait i should add this to my alt history

[vestal rivet]

then, Pelinal Whitestrake arrives and does his thing

[chilly tulip]

Eh, Two probably is doing something

[regal spire]

Potential woman:

[whole river]

Highkey I need to see Orphion make a play

Have him rain down monoliths in deraj for fun

[dim plover]

I hope Wynncraft eventually makes a special separate system specifically for display entities that copy the player's skin so that armor and their held weapon are also rendered

Otherwise it's kinda goofy seeing outselves in a cutscene after having just fought the Queen and we have like no weapons or gear

Or the four of us looking up at Anathema completely defenceless

[vestal rivet]

some skins look way out of place too, but that's a general drawback of MC in general

[dim plover]

No that one's fine

[vestal rivet]

Wintel's old Perry the Platypus looking skin be like

[dim plover]

I'm more just concerned about the lack of gear on us

Lack of hats, even

For cosmetics

They don't show up in cutscenes either

[vestal rivet]

it would be odd if I dueled any of the sovereigns with their own weapon ig

Zhiraok shows up and starts trying to figure out why I too have a liffbane

[dim plover]

Is that a valid reason to not render any of the player's gear in cutscenes

[vestal rivet]

no

[formal bridge]

I think it's mostly a technical matter at the moment

[dim plover]

It is yeah

[vestal rivet]

they've said this ad nauseum atp

[regal walrus]

Does anyone have the document with all of Anathemas dialogue

[formal bridge]

I think it's all on the wiki now

[regal walrus]

That the wiki keeps referencing

[formal bridge]

Ahh

[dim plover]

I haven't checked their nbt but I think the player models just reference our skinfile directly via text itself

Like, uh

[regal walrus]

When did you check last

[vestal rivet]

there's a video titled "all anathema post-raid dialogue" I think

[dim plover]

Our skins are not in the resource pack

[formal bridge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FeIyKgKSvTZc9R2xyJXjibaLKravjEqveKG5sB87iG8/edit?tab=t.ip6lyipnvi34

[regal walrus]

Oh ok thanks

Tysm

[dim plover]

I mean, it would be kinda weird if our skins were in the resource pack

Because we see other players' skins in-game in the display entity model format as well

[formal bridge]

wynncraft now has to update the resource pack every time someone new joins with a new skin lmao

[dim plover]

The resource pack can't refresh mid-gameplay to account for that

[vestal rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVJXd941fB8&t=978s this is the video I was thinking of
although the doc above works too

[dim plover]

So I'm assuming it's just referencing our username and somehow grabbing a skinfile from that

I really wish that there was a gag where the potion actually worked on her

At least for like an extra minute or so

[vestal rivet]

gives you time for 1 extra dialogue branch lol

[dim plover]

She's like, mildly surprised
She's still going to die but she's surprised that the potion had any remotely significant effect

Yeah

[vestal rivet]

"dang what are they putting in these bottles that I of all things am being healed???"

we need to just
crash into the base of the tower with a tanker truck full of the stuff

with a firehose

[slim belfry]

wiki is still in the process of adding

I know because I only added the branch I recorded onto it

as for why I wasn't I was busy updating other random stuff

yes the newcomer guide and two's portraits are very important

[compact agate]

@south edge

chud

[drifting aurora]

nah i think this lessens the interaction

the point is that it's stupid and not actually going to do anything

but you keep insisting on it

[regal walrus]

What does the elements and strands and spark mean

and how does this connect to the runes and the fruma gods or whatever

[drifting aurora]

^-^

[warm flicker]

her name is QIRA

[warm flicker]

make an alternate reality where this does in fact work

[slim belfry]

tangentially related I'm surprised nobody else drew the connection yet that powders could be ground up runes

fruma update only made it clearer

[regal walrus]

does anyone have like a full theory on the elemts and the realms and their conenctions and everything

[slim belfry]

with between the elements and realms not at the moment

[dim plover]

How much are you willing to pay me to make this cutscene

[warm flicker]

i think i have a quarter hidden in my sofa

[dim plover]

I love the player archetype of being this stupid dumbass that somehow gets through every obstacle because they're unironically skilled in like, combat and puzzles

Like, unstoppable emotionless killer of armies when they lock in is cool and all but this one's also funny

[dim plover]

Light and Dark are actually just the primordial forces of Water and Thunder in disguise and Orphion and DB are trying their absolute hardest not to reveal it to the world because it'll be an instant drop in aura

At the critical point of the War of the Realms when the player force-loses in a cutscene after beating the Dern Beast in its boss fight, the beasts of Earth, Air and Fire return from their vacation in shock and horror at what the hell the other two have done to the finely-crafted world that they've been watching over for millenia before the three left

The other two beasts suddenly become timid and they're forced to stop fighting and fix everything

[slim belfry]

do you or know anyone who has a list of the element combos saved

[dim plover]

element combos?

You mean like in gear or

[slim belfry]

gear yes

they had names

[dim plover]

Should be in the hive

full list there

Otherwise I think you can probably find them listed somewhere in this Discord all at the same place

[slim belfry]

hive armor only share some names

I remember thunder fire air specifically being devil because anathema

the hive piece is Hephaestus-Forged Sabatons

[vestal rivet]

Anathema being air has more to do with being a giant moth that being of the corruption methinks

there aren't that many TFA items tied to the corruption even are there?

TF yes, but FA and TA? TFA itself?

[cedar kernel]

Do I do hive or EO first on my ultimate Ironman

Both are pretty hard

At level

[stray karma]

If you have self heal EO is a breeze
Nothing will kill you quickly either

The Hive will probably kill you if not prepared enough

[cedar kernel]

Why did I say that in this chat

Oh well

[narrow kestrel]

??

EO eye hits insanely hard for some reason

Took me 3 tries at level

Qira only took me 1

if anything, self heal makes qira a breeze

[young dock]

just when I could get away from the majin name

[dim plover]

Wait is AOD an actual term in gaming or did someone here just make it up

[earnest prairie]

….Actually….Obvious….Detector?

Always on Display?

[dim plover]

Area of Denial I think

[warm adder]

abyss of darkness is what comes to mind

[hybrid gazelle]

I only heard of AOE

not AOD

[warm adder]

Area of effect

[timid gorge]

Alcohol and Other Drugs

[slim belfry]

I've only heard area denial but area of denial seems very uncommon

[brittle prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/296377212939010050/1480773200265613584/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[cedar kernel]

so all the way back into the very first quest of fruma, the queen's recruit, majin references gale

saying that zhiroak is like them

[hybrid gazelle]

yep

Majin is referencing Gale

[full bough]

Whar

[regal spire]

Why’s Lero unmentioned anywhere but Fatal

They’ve made a pretty good wand

[full bough]

QTF majij disrepecrijg the goat gale its so over

Didnt rven realize that was who he qss referncing cool connecti

[regal spire]

What if Two is Qira

New theory?

[slim belfry]

fun theory

[hybrid gazelle]

Majin attend the same uni as Gale and actually met her so yeah LOL

[full bough]

Yeah i remmebr from the gale notebook

Js assumed from tha notebook majin was crushjn on her or at the very least being clingy majin might be a bit silly

Mabye i am sillh

[hybrid gazelle]

100% not crush or clingy

it outright harassment LOL

Thalas and Nasin have rivalry with each other

[zenith coral]

maybe he thought it was a crush

[hybrid gazelle]

so it's far from Majin having crush on member of the rival house

[zenith coral]

hes just screwed in the head

[hybrid gazelle]

and it more likely to be 100% out of malice

and also Gale is YOUNGER

here

Gale is younger than she should have been attending uni

[zenith coral]

the elites liking children isnt new soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[hybrid gazelle]

she got into Uni early

so literlaly like

Gale is like 2-4 years younger than Majin if Majin is not attending the uni early?

[pine flower]

erm, 🤓 theyre ackshually mentioned in thrundacracks lore

[hybrid gazelle]

I might have to check again

but I dont remember it mentioning that Majin was the same age

[zenith coral]

he def was older and was being a psycho

[slim belfry]

I just heard Voices of Wynn Majin today and whoever voices him did an outstanding job

[full bough]

Silly majin

[slim belfry]

made Majin ten times more irritating now 10/10 job

[regal spire]

Didn’t even give them the benefit of a name drop

[pine flower]

everybody HATES my goat lero

[regal spire]

wtf Lero do…

Bro made a cool wand, but gets hate!

[slim belfry]

OH lero

I first heard of lero through tcrack lol

[low ether]

The voice fits the fucker to a T
halas
so now he's as pretentious as he is on text alone

[zenith coral]

i think i know a better voice for majin (its the voice majin would say belongs to zhiraok) one moment

it plays at 26:20 in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH5XVn_D2hg

[slim belfry]

LOL

[zenith coral]

the guy who has the voice is 100% worse than majin btw

[low ether]

VILE LMAOOO

[hybrid gazelle]

Funny thing about Wynncraft Wiki

Apotheosis

The Item

its wiki page is unaccessible since it now direct to the Apotheosis the quest

[low ether]

https://wynncraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Apotheosis_(Spear) ?

[hybrid gazelle]

I try to click it from Antigen world event page

and it only get me Apotheosis quest page LOL

https://wynncraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Realmic_Antigen

Try it

[slim belfry]

there needs to be a "for the weapon" link yeah

[low ether]

Uhhhh
Right side link takes me to the spear

[slim belfry]

I can quickly add it in

[low ether]

Exclusive gear tab though, thaaaat's the redirect

Left is correct, right is (currently) not is what im getting at

[full bough]

Idk why there r wiki pages for gear anyway

Just link to wynnatals

[slim belfry]

that didnt exist before

I think?

[cedar kernel]

Suddenly beta becomes merged into stable and every single wiki page has to be updated to reference it

[tired fiber]

"She was 14, Majin"

[zenith coral]

"even better!"

[tired fiber]

D:

[zenith coral]

it seems like a majin thing lol

[full jackal]

does everyone think majin is a pedophile?

[tired fiber]

I mean he looks like he would be

Canonically though he's been single for 120 years

[full jackal]

no offense

literally what the fuck are you talking about

[zenith coral]

not really, though its possible

[pallid rain]

"Majin Situation is crazy"

[dense cairn]

nah he's

Asriel Dreemur

[zenith coral]

a bum

[low ether]

Bro's relationship game is shit
and/or ego so high that nobody but himself can be his own partner

[full jackal]

i mean if we're going off vibes to determine whether he's a pedophile I think he's not because majin would never flirt with a girl

[tired fiber]

You're honestly telling me that if you saw a guy with stomach-high pants and a tiny goatee you wouldn't think he might be just a little freaky?

[low ether]

I have been writing literature whatevers after I finally got the energy to lock the fuck in again, it's 5 am over here, I dont remember what was previously discussed regarding Majin's 120 years of being single + the sexuality of sovereigns convo that happened at that same point

[full jackal]

i mean like... yea i wouldn't

[zenith coral]

i would say he has negative rizz but theres women in our world who would love him (and isnt that an indictment)

[low ether]

Majin would peacock anybody and everybody, gender be damned methinks

[tired fiber]

It was in a newspaper or something lmao

[low ether]

LMAO TRUEEEE
all the more power to them tbf

[low ether]

Majin Monthly magazine, ye

[tired fiber]

They airing out his business to the whole province

[full jackal]

"peacock anybody and everybody" 😭

[zenith coral]

like if he was a real person i can see the thirst posts clearly in my mind

[zenith coral]

its just made by his fangirls

[low ether]

I mean yeah? That's what he does with the whole residence tour he does

[tired fiber]

He 100% has fans in-world though

I think he really does just have too big an ego

[full jackal]

ohh okay i thought you meant something else by peacock

[low ether]

True.
'A catch like him??' as a thought the player has always leaves me giggling

[low ether]

Whatever it is, nope, was just referring to peacocking, behavior thing

[zenith coral]

the player simps for majin canonically?

[full jackal]

why was that the first thing i thought of that is concerning

[low ether]

No lmao, the player's confused when reading Majin Monthly

[tired fiber]

No we're talking about when a mommy peacock and a daddy peacock love each other very very much

[low ether]

least thats how I perceived it. Basically thinking "tf do you MEAN this guy's a catch"

[tired fiber]

I read it as being sarcastic when I saw it

Feel like it could go either way

[low ether]

Something like that, ye

Really up to interpretation of the player, I just went with "HOW TF" for mine

[main nacelle]

guys, i just realize we're trash af, lv 120 and we only have like 5HP, all of our powers only comes from gears

[full jackal]

I maen when we level up

we get more hp

[tired fiber]

I then proceeded to solo him in a paladin build that he was physically incapable of beating

[zenith coral]

a tip from majin on how to get the attention of woman: "if a woman asks you her age add 10 to 20 years to your actualy guess. it costs you nothing but she will think about you for the rest of the day, maybe the week."

[tired fiber]

It took like half an hour lmao

[low ether]

Aaaand today on actually how the fuck, considering the +5 hp on level ups

[main nacelle]

wait whut

[tired fiber]

If we have tomes that gets up to 1.5k

[full jackal]

are you cheating by wearing gear that decreases max hp

i mean how do you have 145 max mana

[low ether]

Did you facetank the limelight attack or was that the only time you had to lock in? genuine question

[full jackal]

...??

[main nacelle]

:))??

[low ether]

Probably went all in on int

[full jackal]

are you like using items

cuz like how

how

is it the staff??

[low ether]

Int stat also increases mana

[tired fiber]

I didn't know if that was an instakill or not so I did the limelight attack legit

[full jackal]

ohh yea makes sense

[main nacelle]

ughh no, i do not have any effect on

[tired fiber]

Also I was able to jump him when he landed

[full jackal]

HOW DID YOU DO THAT THEN

teach us

[main nacelle]

I have no idea :))???

ask salted

[low ether]

Valid tbh, if memory serves it's a near instakill, 99%, and if it isnt that, it legit just insta gibs

[zenith coral]

i see your salted

[tired fiber]

I had second chance anyway so if I died I would've lived lmao

[low ether]

I remember watching my s/o slowly doing that fight on his uber-bulky paladin
...slow as fuck, thought he could tank the limelight, bro died to it instead

[tired fiber]

Paladin is so fun

[main nacelle]

i can cast teleport to go around so it shouldn't be a server lag

wait wtf, why am i having a book in my left hand

[tired fiber]

Peak

What build was he using

[low ether]

Uhhhh
I've no idea off the top of my head, especially not rn

[zenith coral]

100k hp crafted

[tired fiber]

The book of 200k ping

[low ether]

All I remember is he has high as fuck hp regen to where he heals like half or more of his hp in 5 seconds, and presumably some LS on a weapon

[tired fiber]

The paladin build I use has 200k ehp but the tradeoff to that is 20k dps lmao

I never once got below like 25k hp

[full jackal]

At least you actually have ehp T_T

[low ether]

Cant remember his current ehp, cant be bothered to ask rn

[full jackal]

my build does 90k dps and 40k ehp

[low ether]

five in the mf morning I need to reeeest

[tired fiber]

Majin thinking he's gonna win just because he has a domain expansion

The humble trumpet:

[low ether]

But yeah he slowly went through the Majin fight a second time
and then came a rw that melted him past the halfway mark LOL

[full jackal]

0_o

[low ether]

good fucking lord

[full jackal]

how does one reach 250k hp

[tired fiber]

haha heavenly trumpet go br br brrr

[full jackal]

heavenly trumpet increases max hp/ has overhp right?

[tired fiber]

Yep

The amount of overhealth increases with holy power

[full jackal]

i guess that makes sense lmao

but what is your actual max hp though

[tired fiber]

In that build it's 43.6k

[full jackal]

that is still ridiculous

[full jackal]

not counting ehp?

holy fucking cheeseballs

[low ether]

god damn what kinda min maxing tomfoolery

[tired fiber]

Usually my raw hp is closer to 36k cuz I alternate between boreal and statue depending on how immortal I need to be

But I have the hero festival bucket that lets me walk with statue on if I really need to

In terms of dps that's the highest I've ever gotten on that build and as you can see it requires my ult in the spell combo

[narrow kestrel]

the shit you get in anni pfinder:

[full jackal]

#🌎wynncraft is a fucking mess

[low ether]

no kidding

[full jackal]

like they called me a zionist

for saying that antisemitism is bad

[low ether]

Wellll at least we still have this for theory crafting at stupid o clock hours

[full jackal]

I'm literally part of the gaza discord server what the fuck are they talking about

[slim belfry]

inference based on roundabout directions

[mossy badge]

Thats not even that much

[full jackal]

you my good friend have won the game

have you ever died once

[slim belfry]

wtf

[mossy badge]

Its not my stats

But he prolly doesn't die once

[low ether]

Mmmm so before I cease existing for however many hours,
I still wonder if new changelings have at least some innate fear of fire ngl
Not sure if that was discussed in detail, but! Since like
the first wickerman, I can see new changelings that form having an innate fear of fire

[mossy badge]

Also im not sure but like 250k per hit

With maxed holy upper or whatever pala does

[zenith coral]

whats the durability bro

[mossy badge]

This is with fire pot btw

+100k

Also trumpet i think

Only this much without trumpet 😔

[low ether]

However the rage with the wickerman might just be a learned thing
Idk, that thought's been bouncing in my head for literature reasons with Gikyo, and them having fear and dislike of fire in some way
though my thoughts are scattered as rn, ill just
try to get some sleep before the sun lights up my room

[mossy badge]

Why doesn't gikyo have fire weakness smh

[zenith coral]

their clothes are fire-proof

[tired fiber]

IF YOU'RE A LIAR YOU GET THE FIRE RAHHHH 🗣️ ‼️ 🔥

[zenith coral]

actually does gikyo wear clothes

[mossy badge]

He does

[supple walrus]

Eh tbh I think the story proved that his true weakness is water

[mossy badge]

But like not on his face

[zenith coral]

or is it just skin he transmutated

[low ether]

I mean them not having fire weakness is fine, it's more like..
immolation fully kills off a changeling, fuckers cant reform or w/e you wanna go for

[tired fiber]

I doubt he even has skin

[zenith coral]

yk what i mean

[tired fiber]

iirc the changeling that snuck into Gavel basically just had slime as a body

I would not be surprised if changelings were anatomically just slime full of purple goo

[low ether]

I still think that they aren't truly dead for what that's worth
Snowgraved but knocked out in a manner that looks like they're dead

[supple walrus]

True

[zenith coral]

see the whole forehadowing of him being rurie

[supple walrus]

We do need more gikyo

[full jackal]

wait wait

what percentage of the wider wynncraft community

are UTDR fans

[zenith coral]

like he literally says that ruries transformation is gonna used later by him

[full jackal]

discuss

[low ether]

Imma be honest my ass did NOT clock them the first time

[zenith coral]

me

[supple walrus]

Also me

[full jackal]

i mean like a percentage

[low ether]

Didn't even see the off-color feather LMAOOO

[slim belfry]

probably a large amount

[mossy badge]

Whats utdr

[full jackal]

cuz like pretty much at least 40% of the people i meet here are also utdr fans

[supple walrus]

Undertale/deltarune

[zenith coral]

it may be nothing really but after knocking us down he starts transforming into stuff than praises his rurie disguise and says it would be used later

[low ether]

yesss though, they feel so underused rn
didnt get much time in the light

[zenith coral]

than rurie has a really weird moment infront of majins cape

[mossy badge]

real

[low ether]

Fuhue, Cileon, then Rurie, but they did not like Cileon's form for one reason or another

[low ether]

Oh that, I just thought it was glee that a nemesis has been felled in such a way ngl

[supple walrus]

There’s like that one secret disco

And that’s all the gikyo we get

They do be the most underdeveloped sovereign

[low ether]

First Wicker's Spark or w/e it was called

[zenith coral]

also suis killing off of gikyo may not work if fire is their only weakness. alternateley that was a clone and the real one already got away

[low ether]

still mad that the wiki doesnt have the text for that yet, I need all the cross-referencing I can get for making their dialogue accurate

[zenith coral]

like there is enough evidence of gikyo being alive that it isnt impossible

[low ether]

Maybe not only weakness, but at least the biggest one if they're not able to be truly killed otherwise

[zenith coral]

like maybe they want him to be the antagonist ofthe wastelands idk

[marble lantern]

If we're talking changelings have yall considered the possibility of The Player being one?

[zenith coral]

prolly not

but who knows atp

[mossy badge]

I mean ye but unlikely

[low ether]

I mean
every copy of wynncraft is personalized, if you wanna do that for a character, thats your call

[marble lantern]

True

[low ether]

Bet you 10 it's gonna be both Oru and Gikyo

[marble lantern]

It just makes more sense to me that somehow, someway changelings are getting in the recruit program and are the reason why we can do co-op/team content

[zenith coral]

how much of frumas goverment structure is changelings anyway

[mossy badge]

wat

How does it make sense lol

[supple walrus]

Eh idk if that works with the current player lore we have though

[marble lantern]

crackhead theory

[zenith coral]

maybe we are made to copy one thing: realm beasts

[low ether]

Probably just Gikyo
the other changelings likely stick around the Mistwoods though

[supple walrus]

Like if the player was a changeling it would NOT justify the reaction that anathema had

[marble lantern]

I'm still trying to understand what the Player is

[supple walrus]

In that one dialogue branch

[zenith coral]

apparently the plan is to never reveal it

[marble lantern]

damn

[mossy badge]

Wonncraft is the lamest rpg icl

[tired fiber]

There's some post-raid dialogue from Anathema that implies the player being something else completely

[low ether]

Vessel of a higher being
I said I'd go to sleep, why am I still here

[marble lantern]

huh, guess i aint seen that one yet

[tired fiber]

Sleep is for the weak

[mossy badge]

She says "familiar spark"

[zenith coral]

i go to sleep at 8 and wake up at 18 (i try to atleast)

[marble lantern]

familiar in what way?

[low ether]

Okay fair
but I deadass have nothing else to do apart from continue my literature shenanigans tomorrow

[mossy badge]

Idk

[low ether]

Cant do Wynn for hours, data's low as hell, cant raid a neighbor's house to use their wifi, cant have shit in this economy

[zenith coral]

my theory is that we are the "discarded shell" of something. (maybe the broken mirror)

[mossy badge]

Im not sure when exactly "spark" is used, but it might be used for gods

[marble lantern]

player is the Beast of the Realm of Influence theory confirmed.

goodnight tri-state area

[supple walrus]

What info we have is:

• Something is invested in keeping us alive (idk if Beyond the Grave is too canon though)
• “Not light, not dark, not in between.”
• There is something beyond the emptiness, and something has gone to great lengths to hide our nature
• Anathema says the spark is familiar, and spends her final moments laughing saying that the other realm beasts have no idea what they’ve overlooked

[zenith coral]

an alternative interpretation is us filling that void inside us with something

[tired fiber]

Anathema said it was concealed in the player too

[low ether]

fill the void with a friend, make it a friend inside you

aaand that my cue to fuck off LOL

[tired fiber]

She had to take a VERY close look to spot it

[supple walrus]

Yup

[zenith coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924374894085566475/1404221191987789824/ohgod-8.gif

ive got a friend inside me

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[zenith coral]

your in danger boi

[tired fiber]

Anathema has a friend in all of us

[low ether]

I dont have baby ana tho

[zenith coral]

anathema impregnated the community?

[tired fiber]

Maybe that was the spark she saw

[supple walrus]

……….

Imma just slide out, don’t want to be part of this convo anymore

[zenith coral]

with how many mpreg emojis you guys have been using i do believe you guys are into it

[mossy badge]

Who is "you guys"

We aint in #guild_community or #1019649786799996980

[tired fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700478582522380308/1508307433984888852/react-sad-caterpie.gif

[slim belfry]

I'm just sayin' the beasts are the realms and they can also give blessings so

there's another way to say either

[hybrid gazelle]

beasting time

[neat oriole]

is the gambling beast trial in lrs just a blessing given to us by the realm beast for gambling

[pearl mauve]

Cisano, the beast of gambling

[full jackal]

LMFAO

WHAT

[full jackal]

"slide out" was a pretty specific word choice

[mossy badge]

lol

[full jackal]

you know what's funny

in wynntils tutorial

you can see

xima valley and the highlands of fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

as far as we know

it seems that there are more realms out there

and what it seems it that realm is a manifestation of a concept

that can be created by existing realms

and if a realm such as War can exist by the hate of 2 beings

tehre could be more realms out there created similarly

[cerulean osprey]

i wonder if any realms exist that were born from coexistence

between multiple parties

[hybrid gazelle]

it need to born from intense conception in order to create it

from what I interept from Two explaintion

so just becasue the two parties feel something does not mean it would created a realm

so it must be intense emotion or something along that line

[warm flicker]

the Gambling Realm is real 🔥

[full jackal]

how would spares work in this system though?

Like could you spare the trees of harmony or the obsessors

or are they too far gone

Also sorry auree but i vandalized your doc

xd

[split night]

you can spare them when they are low
or flee
if something doesn't accept spare, even when they are at 100% spare meter , they won't accept it

what

[full jackal]

tried writing the quest for therck's brother ig

[full jackal]

ah okay

so like spares only work on like conscious beings

[split night]

that's contributing, not vandalizing

[full jackal]

vandalizing is funnier

[split night]

i can delete or keep it if it fits
and beside
it's early game quest so like, not very important xd

[frozen turtle]

doesnt the guardian tree thing suggest there are more realms

therefore gambling realm could be true

[split night]

im planning to swap the chicken and the chef in cook assistance

[full jackal]

lmaoooo

but like do you have any plans for therck's brother though

[split night]

you'll meet therck at the ragsel's bridge with a bunch of toys that look like stairs
you can ask him what he's doing and he will scoff you off and mention the name of his brother, you'll go to meet his brother and ask to get an item to come back to him

he will say sorry and give you an armor

[full jackal]

cuz like i think it's a pretty good time to give exposition on sanctification i guess

[full jackal]

uhh okayy

[split night]

you've read the first quest right?

[full jackal]

uhh yeah

[split night]

you can see my the funny wording quirk i did

and the way the situation is also swap but parallel the main game xd

[full jackal]

okay, got it lmao

though honestly i was kinda thinking that to swap emerald trail for the ruby field

[split night]

most swapped people in the AU retain their personality if they are either not major, or their life remains relatively the same

[full jackal]

okay so like TS!Underswap

[split night]

that would make Ruby a currency

[full jackal]

uhh yea

[split night]

sure i guess

[hybrid gazelle]

there are more mutiple realms out there yeah

but due to lack of info of what make a realm

we dont know what else there

[split night]

more like Tory Fox underswap

[hybrid gazelle]

but there definitely more

[split night]

but uh we should probably not discuss #1495805797274484736 too much in #📚lore_discussion xd

[hybrid gazelle]

Light and Dark does not seems to be just about the concept of Light and Dark

[full jackal]

yea lmao

[hybrid gazelle]

but more like

abstract concept of Light and Dark

if that make sense

it doesn ot seems like they gain power from actual dark and light in physical plane

but ratehr their actual influence

so as War not draw its power directly from the concept of violence of our world

so its seem that the concept that exist in physical world does not necessery directly connect to what is on the plane of influence

[warm flicker]

in order to defeat Orphion, we need to kill every last photon of light in the universe

i got this

[zenith coral]

we also need to prevent any more from appearing

[uneven basin]

Truly we need to destroy every star

[foggy condor]

...how would we defeat Saphanis then?

[hybrid gazelle]

we dont really know

but we got some powerful allies along thew ay

and defeating Saphanis may involve mroe parties that we would expect

Orphion and Saphanis double raid boss theory

[zenith coral]

like its clear that killing them wont do much. sealing them will kick the problem to next generation

my idea was sealing them (they would be like the pets versions) and taking them around the world teaching them morality may be our best shot

[mystic fulcrum]

Orphion and Saphanis should be impossible to defeat, player could only break their connection to physical plane

[stray karma]

We killed Ana so we should be able to kill the conscious manifestation of these Realms
Also during the Parasite fight Orphion is lying unconcsious on a ledge so we know we can turn him conscious -> unconscious, we just have to do it in a irreversible manner

[hybrid gazelle]

Anathema was weaken so Saphanis and Orphion case would be whole lot different

[mystic fulcrum]

They should be not possible to defeat so war beast will emerge once more

[hybrid gazelle]

defeat in this discussion does not mean permently killed

can be just simply temporary put out of commission

which can give way for future solution

that why we use defeat and not kill

[mystic fulcrum]

Orphion is probably a massive star and Saphanis is a black hole

[zenith coral]

also a realm-beast in their own realm should be effectiveley *omnipotent

[warm flicker]

nah id win anyway

[stray karma]

Well Orphion was weakened too
Which shows it's possible

[hybrid gazelle]

But we did not fight Orphion

[stray karma]

Especially since Light and Dark will be waging war

[zenith coral]

like at minimum when we enter dern we should effectiveley all get wou'd

[stray karma]

I don't care we still but him unconscious

[zenith coral]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-tuff-skibidi-toilet-6HSQPi9woBdjFA1Aob

[hybrid gazelle]

but we did not tho

[stray karma]

What do you call what happens in NOL

[hybrid gazelle]

prying parasite off

[stray karma]

By beating Orphion
Which weakens him greatly (he says it)

[hybrid gazelle]

nah

[dim plover]

I couldn’t even fathom the concept of killing a Realm Beast before Fruma came out

Granted Ana was severely weakened by a lot of factors I think but if we want to end the War of the Realms permanently literally the only way I can see it is to kill both Realm Beasts at the same time

How the hell do we even kill one, let alone both

Two seems to imply it’s possible to kill one though so

[zenith coral]

you cant kill anathema in a way that matters

[vestal rivet]

we either kill them at the same time or we kill them in very quick succession

or seal them or whatever

[tropic locust]

wdym

the way we kill anathema in is one that matters

[vestal rivet]

we "killed" her in a way that decommissioned her for at least a while
and also wiped her current personality

I'd say that matters at least some no?

[tropic locust]

yeah

I mean if us going to wtp and slaying her didn't matter than why did we do it

[vestal rivet]

we did it to close the giant sky hole

[tropic locust]

yeah so it mattered

[split night]

it doesn't matter in the case that we can't essentially kill them forever

it does matter in the case to close the portal

xD

they are sparks, the concentration of a realm, they reform over time, although this new Anathema will not be the same Anathema, but it will be the Realm of War Beast again

so one have to assume this logic work for the other realms of influence too, maybe even better since these realm are more well defined, not some broken pieces that band together like Realm of War

[whole river]

I imagine they can’t be traditionally killed and the best method would probably be sealing them

[vale sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-kenjaku-seal-gojo-satoru-gif-9192045893286849795

[solid ibex]

i wonder if dern will be like the finale for wynncraft

unless the devs plan to add smth else other than reworks

[rotund gust]

https://tenor.com/view/space-tim-curry-gif-7935778

we ride a meteor into space after dern

[solid ibex]

for what purpose 😭

tbf we did go to the moon

[rotund gust]

idk, cosmic magic lore

[solid ibex]

i mean why not honestly

[rotund gust]

gotta go figure it out

[solid ibex]

space is cool

[rotund gust]

sohso appears and sohso’s it up

[split night]

WynnCraft end when the server budget end

[rotund gust]

we find majin didn’t die, just teleported to mars or something

[split night]

keep buying prof bomb

[solid ibex]

which is never

[solid ibex]

thats fucked up man

he blew up but somehow managed to reach higher in the cosmos and is essentially one of the most powerful characters in wynncraft

[hybrid gazelle]

Dern probably the finale of war of the realm

and then we gonna get new storyline entirely

I dont thin kthey want to drag out War of the realm

[split night]

comic magic need explaination

so i assume that would be the direction

[solid ibex]

oh yeah that'll get tiring

its been years and we need to see that end

[rotund gust]

nah we find him in wybel jail

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynncraft just need some fresh and not use the same fucking map that was like

10 years old

[solid ibex]

wait

[hybrid gazelle]

it like ship of thesus at this point

LMAOOO

[solid ibex]

space lore might actually be fuckin deep

[hybrid gazelle]

is it really the same map as it was 10 years ago if every blocks was replace

[solid ibex]

wybel shit, woc stuff

what else

ofc the cosmic magic

the meteors and all

[rotund gust]

olm telling the future with astrology

[hybrid gazelle]

New planets so we can have the excuse of building up a new map entirely

we also have demons

dont forget demons

they are like the most unexplain shit in Wynncraft rn

Colossi too

[split night]

time valley guys

we need more time valley

[hybrid gazelle]

unless they make colossi more interwine with war of the realm

[split night]

time valley have like 2 quest and never speak of again

[hybrid gazelle]

olms proably also interwine with war of the realm

so we probably will get explaination for them

for demons i have 0 idea

[solid ibex]

yeah we need more olm stuff

[hybrid gazelle]

olms 100% will be expand before war of the relam end

[split night]

we just go into some guy house and beat up his stuff without explaination, we need more time valley

[solid ibex]

especially since the implications that Bob is half olm

[hybrid gazelle]

it not even implication

it just outright comfirm he is in fact half olm LOL

[solid ibex]

ive been thinking about like

how they'd handle his power though

with the new stuff, like does he have archetypes or the vanilla classes minus shaman

[rotund gust]

just the 4 OG ones

[hybrid gazelle]

just 4 OG weapon and that enough

[stray karma]

https://tenor.com/view/wynncraft-genesis-of-the-end-eye-gif-2051258165398776332

[hybrid gazelle]

I dont think they gonna take account to new archetype stuff

have Bob entirely dependent on player archetype is nightmareish

[split night]

he's fucking insane with the mastery of 4 classes

he solo a scion so

[solid ibex]

imagine if like a future boss fight
he fights exactly like a player but using the old spells

and ofc with 4 damn classes under his arsenal

[rotund gust]

i mean, the old spells aren’t much different from the new ones right?

[split night]

his weapon can morph into the 4 class as well

[rotund gust]

or atleast the base versions of the new ones

[split night]

so it's extremely versatile

im pretty sure it do that

[solid ibex]

i mean yeah they still exist

except bob will have vanish rather than dash lol

what are the debuffs mobs get with spells too

like the old spells

[hybrid gazelle]

consider class actually do exist in lore now

as stragedy

it more likely they will reference to that

than in game class

so we just gonna have Bob using different focus

with his

weird black artifact thing

[stray karma]

Well looking at the housing statue of bob he just have the 4 at hand's reach

[rotund gust]

i just hope bob gets a good fight one day. Reincarnation and Robob are really outdated

[split night]

aw

[hybrid gazelle]

deude srly Bob have like sentinel black shapeshifting weapon and the story NEVER explain it

[split night]

metamorph weapon would have work so well

[hybrid gazelle]

it actualyl sentient

[split night]

it look dernic

but like

pink

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah IDK wtf going on with Bob weapon

but in gear skin

and also according to the story

he just have shapeshifting weapon

[solid ibex]

thats cool

[hybrid gazelle]

that also sentient??

Again srly why the story never fucking explain this

[split night]

damn that's op as hell
so he can just switch class midfight xD

[hybrid gazelle]

like hello??

WTF you mean Bob just has shapeshifting weapon

that also sentient

it literally guide bob

it's sentient

[solid ibex]

yeah he switches a lot, you can say he is comperable to a raid party LMFAO

[hybrid gazelle]

it guide him through his journey

actually wait it not

The master just shapeshift it for him

Apperantly each masters he met just happen to know how to transform this shapeshifting weapon

like

HOW?

[solid ibex]

we need more lore on his masters

[hybrid gazelle]

WHAT IS THIS BLACK SHAPE THING

[split night]

i feel like, if he can solo a scion and an annie in his record
then he might as well solo at least the first 3 raids of the game

[solid ibex]

like the ones we barely know about

[split night]

his secret 4th pet, a changeling

[hybrid gazelle]

Also Bob story ended with the clinche

his masters ghost watching him

it so fucking corny it painful but it fit Bob

[rotund gust]

omfg

the gikster

[split night]

it's insanely old lore thing so i don't blame it

xD

[rotund gust]

that’s what they were up to

[solid ibex]

grootslang is ez
parasite + orphion at that state is ez
tcc is bloody ez icl its just a big but slow guy
tna, i mean he can do that for sure
wtp is a stretch on his own though

[split night]

probably??

[hybrid gazelle]

I feel lioke if we can beat ANnie

Bob can beat her too

[split night]

how much powerful ana compare to the baby annie

lore wise

cuz like

[solid ibex]

you mean ana?

[split night]

i feel like ana is a little easier than annie

[hybrid gazelle]

I meant ana yeah

Ana

Bob lore is a frankstein

cause it got this

rotten old lore attach to it

but also with new lore sew onto it

[split night]

He's just him

like literally

[solid ibex]

bob's old skin was lowkey fried icl

i love his new skin though

[hybrid gazelle]

Love how old man marytn being bob friend is something meant to be special

[split night]

genuinely if we fight the actual bob and we lose, i would be happy i can stand fighting him long enough to lose

[hybrid gazelle]

but bro Bob is like friend with everyone

WTF you mean

[solid ibex]

we barely get anything with that

[hybrid gazelle]

Old man pretend to be special cause like what

[solid ibex]

we literally meet so much people friends with bob lol
latest one was Relend

or whatever his name was

[hybrid gazelle]

and Tarod

[solid ibex]

also yeah that guy is dead as shit

[hybrid gazelle]

like literally Tarod is nobody

so it literally not high bar requirement to be Bob's friend

it just you come near 3 inches away from him

[solid ibex]

also Bob faked his death right?

[split night]

yeah

[solid ibex]

confirmed n shit by the secret discovery

[split night]

in the secret discovery

it's pretty clear

the bob we fought is more like a hologram

[solid ibex]

thats kinda interesting, either he expects to take a long ass time or he doesnt come out alive

[solid ibex]

that shit needs some rework

[split night]

idk how he put a kind of hologram shit in here but eh

[rotund gust]

bro looks like deadpool without the mask

[solid ibex]

slime his pets, and then get his "reincarnation" and he be like "you gotta defeat me n shit otherwise you a fraud"

[hybrid gazelle]

Love how NIlrem bearely a character despite Bob tell him to help WYnn

literally fake friend

[hybrid gazelle]

bob literally put a newborn child on the murder list for the next chosen one

like yeah real nice Bob

chuckle probably did not even see the world

[full bough]

This has never happened in like the 8 years ive played wybn

Altho ig befkrr the hppeng version was used as thr 'beta' version and wheneve the main websitr got updated the hppen one never got taken down

[solid ibex]

bro i really hate some characters that have like so much importance

but they just get mentions

we barely get anything

[rotund gust]

no i got something similar

[solid ibex]

if they being saved for future content, sure i guess

[hybrid gazelle]

the said future ocntents is like

in the next 50 years

random shit that been putting out there for "future" contents even tho during that time they have 0 idea what to do with the story

cause some people to think we gonna have avenger assemble type shit for denr update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMhiIT8WOmc&list=RDTMhiIT8WOmc&start_radio=1

literally what people think Dern update will be like

[split night]

might as well have nesaak squid people joining the dern fight

[solid ibex]

literally the only line up that makes sense is either the player ofc, tasim cause he needs some redemption, lari cause shes probably still kicking, and bob which will be absolutely fire
then two is probably somewhat involved since they will be handling the later plans the queen had, which will include the dern expedition mentioned

[hybrid gazelle]

Tasim is needed because his blessing proably allow us to traverse Dern

he gonna be our keycard to Dern

[solid ibex]

makes sense

[hybrid gazelle]

having entire army into Dern sound like stupid idea

because it's literally uncharted territory where the territory itself is the enemy

you gonna lead like million to fucking die

that why I dont think Qira would be involve because her army gonna get fucking devoured by Saphanis

[split night]

could we use the weave to force our way in

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah but the weaver is not a character is it

[split night]

🥺

[solid ibex]

that'd be like AJB but in the hundreds lol

[zenith coral]

i hope with a stacked cast they kill off some characters. they cant make us loose less people than se did

thatd be incompetence

[hybrid gazelle]

you literally cant mobilize entire army through realm

like

you just cant

LOL

[zenith coral]

well isnt that what qira (maybe) wants

so we may have a military

ironically enough

[hybrid gazelle]

Sui probably get involve too

her mana weaver shit

[solid ibex]

qira getting involved in the dern expedition 🤔

okay if it means more gale content, im fucking down

[zenith coral]

isnt that what has been foreshadowed forever

all of the hive feels like a preview of a future plotline

[split night]

isn't Qira plan was to just prepare for the realm takeover
not takeover realm

xd

[zenith coral]

idk at this point

if they want the hive stuff to not matter they gotta rework that dialogue

[hybrid gazelle]

How Qira felt when Dern story is about to come up but 2 of her divison leaders are not even capable of leading people

Gale at least got PhD

[zenith coral]

also saphanis should be effectiveley omnipotent in its realm

we should at minimum be expected to deal with wonder of u level shanenigans

[hybrid gazelle]

I also rather not have qira involve

[solid ibex]

🙏

[hybrid gazelle]

because it would ruin the vibe of Dern so much

because how the fuck do you get long awaited dern

when there like army going on

like how do you even get ignore that

like imagine Dern trying to be all this scary and myserious

[zenith coral]

ah i know now why they made gale so important in fruma! theyre planning to kill her off in dern 💡

[hybrid gazelle]

and then you ahve Qira army fighting Dern or whatever going on

[solid ibex]

no please

spare gale

[zenith coral]

anyways i expect saphanis to make full use of being an extension of the realm. we are literally inside of it

so we are in an hostile domain that is under its full control

idk how we were gonna survive that

[zenith coral]

gale is already a ghost let her rest

[split night]

we survived entering Light so, it's probably gonna be fruma but insanely hard

lv 150 mobs

[zenith coral]

well orphion didnt wanna kill us

[solid ibex]

oh i forgor bout that

[split night]

his antibody does, i assume it work the same for dark too

[solid ibex]

if thats what she wants sure

[split night]

you know
natural body reaction to foreign forces

[zenith coral]

let her reunite with her lover

[solid ibex]

okay speaking of orphion

we have him to deal with UNLESS Lari would do smth about it

[zenith coral]

honestly idk what were going to do about it. remove saphanis extra power, sure

but a permanent solution escapes me

we cant kill them theyll just spawn in again and continue

we cant seal them it kicks of the problem to future generations see alduin from tesv (altho he is a bad example given all we do is MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR HIM TO END THE WORLD)

usurp their position? are we sure this will not destroy our mind and turn us into orphion and saphanis 2.0

[split night]

kick their whole realm so far that they can't physically connect up with our realm

that's my proposal

[warm flicker]

what do we know about Qira - her motivation, story, anything about her

[hybrid gazelle]

she know dern

she is powerful soccereress

and uh

she build army to fight dern

[solid ibex]

would severing their connection to the physical realm so that their influence no longer is on it work?

[hybrid gazelle]

also own slaves

[cinder cedar]

one of her attendance is LITERALLY named slave in finnish

[solid ibex]

like they cannot access the physical realm anymore, they just gotta sit and look at each other again

[split night]

that happened before

they just rebuild the connection

[solid ibex]

what caused it

just by chance, i didnt catch the details much

[split night]

the realm reach out to the physical realm

we don't know the details of the first connection

but the second one have Realm of war join the ride and connect too

[zenith coral]

you sure they coulnt just make new connections

[solid ibex]

can this be linked to the elves fucking up that guardian and opening up the portals

[split night]

yes

The second one or 0AP is caused by the elves

there was a first one but we don't know what time did that one happen

and how did the portal got severed

but the second one happen again because of the elves

the first elders i mean

we gotta held the actual assholes accountable

[solid ibex]

okay if thats the case then it doesnt really matter to attempt to severe their connection

since Orphion still has influence

since he was able to send a "message" to the elves

[split night]

idk how CT is gonna spin this one

cuz realm stuff is hard to deal with

unless we somehow destroy the concept of Light and Dark

xD

[solid ibex]

icl though it does drive the hype for the eventual addition of dern

[cinder cedar]

or change it

[solid ibex]

what the fuck are we actually gonna do

[split night]

the weaver gotta do something insane

it's literally a command block type shit inside of Wynn

lorewise

but

im not sure if it work WITHIN the realm

[cinder cedar]

call them stupid so they just stop existing cause they cringe?

[split night]

we only know for sure that it work *only in the phyiscal realm

[solid ibex]

ah thats a good plot point to work off from

the rune lore

we need people who can interpret that shit

wait lowkey what if bob can do that

[split night]

they could have it do something crazy then have it destroy itself since a tool like that can genuinely be exploited in the wrong hands

[hybrid gazelle]

The weave likely being use to force Dern open

And likely play important part for Bak’al character

[split night]

opportunistic fraudster might get a chance if he have his hands on it

xd

[hybrid gazelle]

Honeslty weaver also porbably play more part in epilogue

Like closing the corruption portal

[solid ibex]

im really excited though to see how they will handle Bak'al moving forward

[hybrid gazelle]

Cause genuinely how do you unfuck Wynn province

Like what gojng on in fruma

Just fuck Wynn immensely no matter how you look at it

The only option is you using resonance weaver to close the portal

[solid ibex]

ragni king after realizing the player slimed the queen and theres no more recruits to pass on while the corruption will probably still grow worse while dern is preping up

[vestal rivet]

this WOULD probably solve the issue if it were feasible

at least the immediate corruption issue

is it feasible or is there some random bs reason it can't be done is the question

[solid ibex]

its hard to use iirc

[split night]

honestly just close it temporally while they think of a solution might be good enough for the weave

[hybrid gazelle]

I just genuinely don’t know how they would address the big elephant in the room

Like how do you go back to Wynn and tell everyone that

[split night]

yeah xD

[hybrid gazelle]

“Hey guys we overthrow the dictator but sadly I think fruma recruits not gonna be a thing for a while”

Genuinely I would not surprise if every admirals and generals in Wynn personally beat the shit out of the player with their bare hands

[split night]

and like, killing her Majesty might as well doomed the world since all 3 Realms are in the taking business now, War has been doing it since forever, Light is recovering and is gonna do it while Dark have an advantage so it will do it

[split night]

Wynnpolitics get scary

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynn politic is scary because you up against army leaders that equally hate politic

Admiral aegis at least

And stress the fuck out with death rate of the province

[solid ibex]

everyone at wynn is gonna shit their pants man

[split night]

I think we met so many good politician in Wynn that i don't know how many bad politician are in WynnCraft

[solid ibex]

and it be totally justified if the player geniunely gets kicked out of the army lmfao

which they cant because who else would be helping them with this problem but them

[hybrid gazelle]

If they not already

[split night]

definitely 😔

[hybrid gazelle]

Consider theu do fuck all as recruits

They never participate in a large scale war

I gues at least they dealt with akkadicus and Charon

I guess

Slykaar too

[split night]

not to mention the fact that we did that one rymek quest of robbing a guy as well

[winged narwhal]

Could you just,like, get volunteers from the Roughworks?

[hybrid gazelle]

Okay

Let think this through

[split night]

they are like untrained workers 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

Let think here

Do you honestly think

[split night]

this is like throwing a rat at a supernova type problem

[hybrid gazelle]

A roughwork workers would prefer

[solid ibex]

oh hell nah jigsaw

[hybrid gazelle]

Living in eternal war scape

[slender eagle]

roughworkers want a break 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

Over their fucking industrial zone

[split night]

why are roughworks people get all the bad treatment chat 😔

[winged narwhal]

give them a free education in Aelumina and a generous pension afterwards

[hybrid gazelle]

I would prefer living 9 to 5 than getting drafted war against literal he’ll

[winged narwhal]

Almuj can afford it

It's how the American military works

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah but this is not America

This is province that been in war against zombie apocalypse

For 1000 years

Also fucking free education in Aelumina?

The best university in fruma

For free?

What kind of fucking dimension you live in

[split night]

arguably the only one

[hybrid gazelle]

No ct said Therr are more

[split night]

oh okay

[hybrid gazelle]

It just not important to show them

[split night]

a free edu at a popular uni is like asking the gov to give free lottery to all the citizens

[hybrid gazelle]

It just not something that can be done

No way that you can cover all the expensive materials

Especially from a city thst also on warfare against the zombie apocalypse

[limber swan]

closing the portals is not an option because for the sake of gameplay it just wouldn't work

how tf will we do anni when the portal is closed

what would that even look like

[split night]

seperate gameplay from story btw

you can use a charm to have the apotheosis sky

xd

[limber swan]

a charm that is almost impossible to get lol

[hybrid gazelle]

Also nobody would want to go to Wynn if they know wtf gojng on

[split night]

does that make what i said less valid duh

[hybrid gazelle]

People will fucking riot

If they know their own people habe to be send into meat grinder like

[solid ibex]

that

i have

[hybrid gazelle]

Would you be fucking pissed too???

[solid ibex]

took like a hundred completions or so, but its as rare as a mythic

maybe even rarer

[hybrid gazelle]

You guys talk about the charm

Man I wish I have that

[split night]

It's the same as getting kidnapped by the gov and drafted to war through pill that give you anesthesia and forget who you are

A+ repiping

[hybrid gazelle]

There like reason why fruma has to be secret about fruma recruit program lol

Because if they don’t riot gonna happen

[solid ibex]

its cool and all

then uh i can just have it on a class for free cause i dont plan to raid on that class

[hybrid gazelle]

Nobody like the idea of their own people being send to the war thst theu have no part in

[split night]

if it is tradable how much would you sell it for

xd

[solid ibex]

1 million stx

[hybrid gazelle]

So I feel like we likely gonna close the portal

[hybrid gazelle]

Maybe we got some help

Idk

[split night]

we'll have to wait and see

which is a few years from now

[limber swan]

wtf is the epilogue even gonna be though? a quest? a questline? is the butterfly effect an epilogue

I have no clue how they are gonna release epilogue

[solid ibex]

its probably gonna be done like tasim

we show up in certain locations, get a catch up with the npcs on how they are doing

[golden flicker]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tobey-10