📚lore_discussion

[hybrid gazelle]

beside void is different in my take

[full jackal]

Wait @split night you said you wanted Lari smoking weed

Right

[hybrid gazelle]

Void in my take take in more spec evo direction

[split night]

I remember that the Void is canonically nothing, no space, no time, it's true nothingness

[mossy badge]

Yet they call EWA "void" smh

[split night]

so i imagine that normal matter spending time too long in it naturally warp it

[split night]

what is ewa

[frozen turtle]

i think its also weird that might be added is that seemingly a blessing from the RoW allowed stronger major elemental magic

[mossy badge]

Earth water air

[slim belfry]

hmmmmmmmmmm

the earth, ocean, and sky

[mossy badge]

I mean its all stupid

[split night]

that is, not nothing xd

[mossy badge]

ETFA is called "hollow"

Like they just put random names on em

[frozen turtle]

like, influences in a weird way can improve other magic

and not take it over

[hybrid gazelle]

blessing will be part of the ??? category

[full jackal]

^^^

[slim belfry]

true it's not nothing but there's something interesting about that combo

[frozen turtle]

yeah

its a weird combination between ??? magic + elemental magic

[hybrid gazelle]

no

[frozen turtle]

and cosmic and time

[split night]

it's, just an interesting combo

[frozen turtle]

ig

[slim belfry]

I'm gonna make a stretch one second

[hybrid gazelle]

I probably will try to vague about how focus blessing work

but we will see

but I havem y own intereptation to the reason why soverign blessing turn out like that

[frozen turtle]

fair yeah

[split night]

void magic could be interesting
like, you just make the very fabric of spacetime itself disappear on a spot you like would be calamity

[frozen turtle]

i still find it weird blessings improve other magic

ik she specalisied it or learnt how to give it specially

[mossy badge]

Aint "soul" and "anima" the same?

[frozen turtle]

cuz bak'als blessing was based on RoW

[split night]

i think so?

[frozen turtle]

rift walker is totally void maggic

[hybrid gazelle]

that coudl go under cosmic magic yes

[split night]

anima is just a different word for soul energy

[hybrid gazelle]

becuase it essentailyl just space magic LOL

[mossy badge]

Man these names are just bs

[hybrid gazelle]

time magic likely for me will be call temporal magic

becuase time magic sound fucking stupid

[split night]

...no??
the rift, portal thing seem to be able to suck things in
it's something

[slim belfry]

nvm I think I was delusional

[frozen turtle]

sarcasm

[split night]

didn't take that was sarcasm, sorr

[frozen turtle]

riftwalker gives void vibes but clearly isnt void idk what it is tho

space ig

cosmic

[split night]

broken spacetime type shit

[slim belfry]

cosmic

[mossy badge]

Btw what is "cosmic" magic, wouldn't "cosmic" be the category of magic, under which falls the 2 we know of: time and space?

[hybrid gazelle]

this is the note I take for 3.0 before Fruma come out

[full jackal]

@split night I can’t believe I actually did this

[hybrid gazelle]

I tend to start from squre 1 when it come to rewrite stuff

[frozen turtle]

Lari does smoke

canonically imo

[full jackal]

This was done in like 8 minutes so its really really bad

[steep forum]

no larri dont smoke the canned abis nooo

[pine flower]

I appreciate that the things they kept when updating rol IV was the guardian and canned abis
surely these two are equally important to the lore

[hybrid gazelle]

spoiler

they were not

[pine flower]

true canned abis is leagues more important to the lore

[split night]

i wonder how it feel to smoke the canned abis

[full jackal]

Canned abis is literally a play on words of cannabis

So I assume that it’s just like cannabis or something

[uneven basin]

We really needed more lore on what elves use to drug themselves and commune with orphion thanks for leaving canned abbis content team

Joke aside I do believe the unseriousness / importance ratio of canned abbis is a bit too small

[lavish knot]

Well its not too far off how some movement starts with a weird dream

[frozen turtle]

Elves use drugs so much

1. Canned Abis
2. Shattered Minds Quest
3. Maex Elf Drug Merchant

[hybrid gazelle]

All of this just for funny weed joke btw

[lavish knot]

There's also that one truth flower

[whole river]

I mean it’s not even a haha drugs thing humanity has used drugs in religious ceremonies forever

[full jackal]

I mean Light Forest grows an ungodly amount of mushrooms

So it makes sense

[full jackal]

The tattletale flower should not exist though

Like with the existence of that flower

We should’ve just brought it into Fruma and made queen immediately explain everything

Saves a lot of time

[whole river]

why would she accept anything from the player tho

[full jackal]

Hide it

[uneven basin]

pretty sure forcefully making the leader of a foregin country inhale pollen from a strange flower would be considered a declaration of war especially since the war excuse is already used to keep usfrom killling alll the guards

[full jackal]

And then when she’s looking fondly onto the landscape

Use the flower

[full jackal]

Considering our power

We could solo the guards if we were lucky

[uneven basin]

also why would a realm beast be vulnerable to this

[full jackal]

Why wouldn’t they be vulnerable to this?

[whole river]

i dont think we could beat anathema, majin, and zhiraok at once

[full jackal]

…okay true ig

I forgot about the sovereigns

Okay but… crazy pipe dream plan i know

This is stupid but:

We movement spell out of the castle

And go over the mountains

Into Wynn

[uneven basin]

kid named the lighthouse :

[full jackal]

Shit

The fact that the lighthouse oneshots though

[zenith vigil]

no you can tank it

[full jackal]

Why not use the lighthouse to kill us after we escape the citadel

[zenith vigil]

i survived it on time

[full jackal]

Wait really?

[zenith vigil]

yeah

[full jackal]

My EHP is shit so I guess I didnt’ know that

[zenith vigil]

it left me on 100 hp from 15k

[pine flower]

hmm sorry but movement spells are not cannon apparently

[zenith vigil]

im guessing with dissolution and agi proc

[whole river]

oh god i have flashbacks to that argument

[uneven basin]

we're being let go at that point

[full jackal]

That was not an argument

I was being 97% unserious after the first 4 messages

[whole river]

shrodingers bait

[full jackal]

No I’m serious about being unserious

I sorta realized it was a shitty idea after the first 3 messages

And I was kinda hoping someone would notice I was joking and end it there for some reason

[full jackal]

Why… would Queen let us go

Like yea some people would die as collateral damage sure

But we’d die too

[uneven basin]

two bullshit iirc

[full jackal]

Two can control the lighthouse?

I mean, I feel like Queen has more authority than two

[pine flower]

simply stack hpr and ignore it

[uneven basin]

no but she can advise the queen on the consequences of killing us /the interest there is in letting us go / killing us at another point

also

[full jackal]

Why would Queen ever listen to two on this thing

I mean Queen wants us DEAD at that point

[uneven basin]

I think we aren't in the lighthouse's line of sight from the escape to the exit

[full jackal]

I… suppose

Yea I guess that makes sense

Can it reach Hyloch though

[pine flower]

probably some of it if you assume it can see it through the aelumnia entrance

[full jackal]

But like how does the lighthouse kill us

It’s a lighthouse

[pine flower]

how does the light bender kill things, all it does is bend light

[full jackal]

Uhh…

I mean it kills things with light energy probably

But like photons are sorta different i think???

Wait are photons the same as Orphion’s energy?

[pine flower]

id imagine light existed before contact with rol (but maybe not who knows)

might just be a beam of photons and magic

[brittle prism]

I'd imagine The Light™ is just a light themed force, and light itself is just photons or magic or smth, Same thing with The Dark® not actually being the absence of light. This has precident since the force of War© is fire themed but isn't literally fire magic or fire

[whole river]

i mean the sun exists so

[unique pumice]

yeah p sure this is how it works, light and dark are misnomers

[digital swan]

I mean if it was photons Orphion could probably compared to the US's National Ignition Facility inertial confinement fusion laser. This laser has achievd 500 terawatt bursts before. This is enough to strip electrons from air molecules and turn some of the atmosphere into plasma. Despite what the elves claim, being near a ton of plasma is usually not survivable

[full jackal]

True ig

[full jackal]

I mean there are some things in wynncraft we just have to take as givens

1. Orphion and Saphanis just came into being just like that

2. Anathema came out of their conflict

3. The Physical Plane just… exists
4. There is a 5th force known as magic
5. There are 5 Elements

Like there is no why

Just is

Which is understandable

Given how hard it is to explain these things with science

And if they didn’t exist Wynncraft would be incredibly boring and plotless

[unique pumice]

If you're counting magic as a fifth force what are the first four

[full jackal]

2 Nuclear forces

Electromagnetism

Gravity

[unique pumice]

Oh

Like that kinda force

[full jackal]

The ones we already have

[full jackal]

Yea

[unique pumice]

I dont know if the laws of physics as we know them even necessarily apply in the wynncraft world though

[full jackal]

I mean… maybe magic is just so powerful

It defies the first 4 i guess

[unique pumice]

You could argue thermodynamics isn't obeyed

[full jackal]

If thermodynamics were obeyed

[unique pumice]

Maybe depends on where the system closes

[full jackal]

Orphion would have a big problem

[unique pumice]

I had a discussion with someone about this in the lorecord

[full jackal]

Cuz where do you even get all that suffocating power

[unique pumice]

Like void holes could violate thermodynamics

[full jackal]

Like where does Orphion get all this energy from?

Saphanis???

Does Saph have negative energy or smth

[regal spire]

Suns

[split night]

please, magic is not a force

it's more a convergence, something that can be be touched

you don't "manipulate" a force, it should be more grabbing it

[unique pumice]

Yeah calling it a fundamental force is kinda iffy

[split night]

do you consciously manipulate the strong nuclear force or like, electromagnetism on your own xd

[unique pumice]

gravity seems to be manipulatable in wynn

[regal spire]

Technically, everything is malleable in Wynn’s world. Its imagination theory, where the only limitation is your ability to believe

[split night]

beside
void hole lead directly to void or or places that are somewhat near RoD

[split night]

oh that kind of magic system

xd

i do find it funny that they have no other way to call the form of "ice" for electricity so they just call it electromagic
a form of condensed element, like ice magic, being a form of water element condensed

[regal spire]

Pull the frozen 2 route and say there are 5 elements: fire, water, air, earth, and fucking ice

[split night]

they should call it something more creative really

electro and magic??
i thought corkus were inventors

not scientist

[regal spire]

When do the concepts converge

Because an inventor inevitably must apply the scientific method

[split night]

i find it fun to think of a parallel name for it

like

terrarcana

terra and arcana

[digital swan]

why is this a given btw
aren't they both gigantic scammers
what if they just like.
light and darkness existed since the beginning of time and they're just selfish asshole fakers playing god with their magic powers

And there's nobody left alive to question them so everyone since 9999 BP has just assumed they were gods

This is also like the sole winnable scenario for humans I think because it means both orphion and stephanie can be killed without any world-ending adverse consequences

Aka no more War of the Realms

which for the record our first source is very much Light aligned and definitely stands to gain from portraying the war that way

[uneven basin]

we assume two is an objective narrator

[digital swan]

I ain't trust none of these motherfuckers

[split night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816419729295016048/1505103534675329147/Video_Project_25.gif

hey guys

anathema

[full jackal]

what

[full jackal]

yea

why not smth like

The Supraforce

shows their arrogance

[regal spire]

We’ve got more evidence supporting Two than we do anything else, so it’s safe to assume that there’s some t(wo)ruth to their statements

I think Ana’s ultimate goal was the only part that was muddied by bias

[uneven basin]

I'll trust two with my life 🔥

[compact agate]

@misty fable

[misty fable]

yes

[compact agate]

Ask away

[misty fable]

Guys is Lari automatically cleaned by the power of light since she is a scion of light?

penguini thinks it only happens of her will and I think it's just passive effect

[compact agate]

It’s like breathing it’s can be automatic but it can also just be manual

Like say she needs to disguise herself

Not like she has to be clean all the time

[misty fable]

okay that I can accept since it starts as automatic

[compact agate]

Yeah

[misty fable]

let's be honest she is dummy dum dum she is not disguising as anyone

[compact agate]

Well what if she needs to infiltrate orc camp

Thats a whole quest where you disguise yourself and become stink and smelly

[misty fable]

iirc we do that not her

[compact agate]

Yes but she could too

[regal spire]

I’m actually interested in seeing what people think about Lari’s powers gifted by Orphion, and whether or not it was a similar process to that of a sovereign’s ascension

[misty fable]

she is incapable of common tasks she could not

[compact agate]

She a baddie

[misty fable]

but ascension is not power gifted by the the anothema imo since it would be all gruesome and war like otherwise

imo she just helps awaken innate abilities

[misty fable]

truke

[regal spire]

Well, did Orphion do that, is what I’m saying

[compact agate]

There are different aspects of war tho

Planning, strategy

[misty fable]

probably yeah

[compact agate]

So yes it could be similar

[misty fable]

there is no planning in the realm of war tho

[compact agate]

Like twos ability is purely intelligence

[misty fable]

it's all weapons and carnage

[compact agate]

With fighting there is a plan to defeat

[misty fable]

I thought she is with the realm of darkness not war

[compact agate]

Suntzu probably

[compact agate]

Well she’s basically CIA

[regal spire]

Pretty sure Two’s just a really informed dude from the way way back in the old Fruma days

[compact agate]

Is two a guy or girl

[primal leaf]

could we convince light and dark like something in common in wynncraft like some kind of food

[regal spire]

Girl

[misty fable]

girl prolly

[compact agate]

She prob in Scientology

[primal leaf]

girl

[compact agate]

Who’s the most racist character

I’m lowkey thinking lari

[misty fable]

whyy

[primal leaf]

orphion and lari speedrunning in the derntology building and faces the final boss two (pure speculation) and ||saraphim|| or how you call it i forgot the spelling

[abstract snow]

saraphim 🔥

[misty fable]

who's saraphim 🥀

[compact agate]

She hates everything that isn’t light…

[misty fable]

ts isn't racism

[whole river]

Hmmm

[misty fable]

ts is kinda beyond that

[primal leaf]

the thing anathema said

[abstract snow]

she has non light aligned friends so she can’t be racist

[misty fable]

but who is it

[compact agate]

Truke

[misty fable]

you mean the player? She kinda tried to kill us for no reason

[primal leaf]

speculated to be the ||dern beast|| cuz of the dialogue in wtp

[slender copper]

Saphanis?

[compact agate]

She tried to kill us because we killed the parasite

[primal leaf]

ye

[compact agate]

But she thought we should save it

[abstract snow]

dullahan tho

[vestal rivet]

the Dern Beast is called Saphanis

and yes Two is a girl

[abstract snow]

hello sun

[vestal rivet]

hello elysium

[compact agate]

Wait is lari just thorfinn

Nah nvm

[misty fable]

what a kind soul 🫀

[compact agate]

Then she tries to kill is

[misty fable]

yooo

[vestal rivet]

most racist characted is obviously Dodo from Rise of Quartron

[misty fable]

Lari so good they made 2 animes about her

[misty fable]

she weak she is not killing anyone

like if you lose vs her during rol your acc should get deleted

[compact agate]

~~Are you saying the player tops lari ~~

[misty fable]

in terms of strength 😭

[compact agate]

Oh

That too ig

[misty fable]

freaky larp

[primal leaf]

lari could spam heal

and couldn’t she just heal herself to give herself more mana?

like the mana regen sharing perk but it’s on yourself

[compact agate]

Lari is stupid

So she prob is running some shitty lb tree

She got adventurers set on

[misty fable]

wait she has that?

[misty fable]

she has no light balls even ts is no lb

[split night]

man are we starting to hallucinate details of the story now

[primal leaf]

i think she has that ability when you fight her

[compact agate]

No that’s like ROL 4 or smth

I played it 8 years ago

[primal leaf]

arcanist lb 🔥

[misty fable]

I played it 3+ years ago 🥀

[split night]

yes it is, you are retelling it in a way as if she was protecting the parasite

[compact agate]

What? No? She hates the parasite but when we actually kill her she’s mad at us and attacks us for harming it

[split night]

unless 8 years ago the quest was different

[compact agate]

She fucking explodes the grootslang in rol1

And feels no remorse

Which is why she’s a hypocrite and dumb as fuck

[split night]

replay RoL

[tawny forge]

dont u fight her because ur so much better at doing stuff than her

[split night]

😭

[compact agate]

I did son

[shut mist]

Nice ragebait

[compact agate]

Exactly

[split night]

i'm a woman

[zenith vigil]

how does this tie into the dullahan alcholic plot

[compact agate]

https://tenor.com/view/companion-meme-im-crine-luigi-sob-gif-9227778561882860811

[compact agate]

There’s a secret discovery in Fruma where you give a frog alcohol

[misty fable]

yep

[compact agate]

Pretty cool

[misty fable]

she trash but she cute so it's ok

[compact agate]

Truke

[earnest prairie]

whatever happened to that other frog anyways

[compact agate]

Idk prob alcohol poisoning

[zenith vigil]

there’s a non secret thing to discover in dullahan s basement which is his vodka stash

[earnest prairie]

that cant be good

[compact agate]

Lari should get hooked on canned abis

Or shrooms

[vestal rivet]

Lari kills the Grootslang mama by purifying her

[compact agate]

Yayha type shit

[zenith vigil]

shit

[vestal rivet]

think if all of your cells were processed

[compact agate]

If you watch the cutscene she explodes him inside out

With white substance

…

[vestal rivet]

and the result is pale and leaking

[compact agate]

Pretty gruesome imo

[earnest prairie]

first. pause. second i think the worm deserved it

[vestal rivet]

bleached each individual particle

[shut mist]

And then shes demoralized

[earnest prairie]

greater good or whatever propaganda orphion says

[compact agate]

No it didn’t because an olux secret discovery is that the grootlsnags are actually harmless

[vestal rivet]

well
based on the current story direction
there's a nonzero chance we get to go back and kick Orphion's teeth in

[compact agate]

Lari is just shit at her job

[shut mist]

Harmless but creates large holes in the ground

[earnest prairie]

give us a raid with the smash ultimate styled boss where we kick both sides at the same time. 1v1v1

[compact agate]

Don’t tell this guy about caves

[split night]

I want to engage in this conversation but due to the nature of the person talking in here, it's genuinely repulse me from doing so

[compact agate]

Lmao

[split night]

when did #🌎wynncraft invade #📚lore_discussion

[shut mist]

Sorry if 2 guys died right at the start of the quest

[vestal rivet]

Calamity Fables X Spirit Reforged desert duo bossfight be like

[vestal rivet]

what

[earnest prairie]

tends to happen when you dont remember that ur god is the definition of a suffocating light and not angelic

[zenith vigil]

they werent very important guys

so its ok

[sick quest]

Wait what happened

[compact agate]

Well lari whole point is to glaze oprhion so makes sense

[split night]

that guy misgendered me intentionally
it leaves a pretty sour taste

[earnest prairie]

Anakin Skywalker against the embodiments of the force be like

[shut mist]

Fair

[compact agate]

When they slandering your character but they lowkey right

https://tenor.com/view/when-they're-slandering-your-goat-but-they're-lowkey-right-gumball-the-amazing-world-of-gumball-crying-at-laptop-sobbing-at-computer-meme-gif-9618486918111621419

[sick quest]

Begone villain

[earnest prairie]

it wasnt me right?

[sick quest]

Bruh

[earnest prairie]

cuz i tend to do that by accident.

[compact agate]

It’s def me cuz I’m slandering lari

[split night]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-with-captions-yess-yess-splendid-yes-yes-splendid-yes-yes-soft-rotund-speciment-gif-25121839

not you, you're fine

the asshole above me however

[zenith vigil]

why dont you just

not interact

[earnest prairie]

what a round specimen. surely they wont destroy a planet and then eat a sun

[split night]

im not interacting with them

[sick quest]

Stop being rude lmao

[compact agate]

Idk how I’m an asshole when I point out lari is not a good person

[split night]

im referring to them

[vestal rivet]

who even

[misty fable]

what did you do why is smn calling an bad word

[zenith vigil]

it seems a lot like you’re interacting

[compact agate]

I’m slandering lari

[misty fable]

she is a good person tho she so cute

[split night]

did i, directly address them

[zenith vigil]

who

[split night]

there you go

you got it

[zenith vigil]

i dont think lari can be directly addressed shes a video game character

[split night]

and beside, why would i be ypset over lari? it's so trivial

i'm more upset at the other fact i mentioned

but they misinterpret it

[sick quest]

Bro dont be intentionally dense

[zenith vigil]

thats what im saying

[earnest prairie]

welp back onto lore ig, you guys think we will ever get a player past? bc based on apotheosis ik we mentioned smth bout the soul but i mean. were a person. we gotta be SOMETHING right?

[split night]

I think the guy is just ragebaiting, im not falling for it xd

[earnest prairie]

unless were just a yuji itadori and were a vessel

[hybrid gazelle]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HHZWvB1aMAAnRVY.webp

[sick quest]

Yeah just block the bozo

[split night]

unless they are actually like that

[zenith vigil]

player is lari
travelled back in time to help themselves

[split night]

hi trashie

[hasty sluice]

to be fair, when i looked at tachy’s profile bio. it makes sense

[sick quest]

Yeah thats one of the coolest (and strangest) parts to come out of fruma

[compact agate]

It’s me I’m pretty sure

[earnest prairie]

the genuine definition of “we dont know what were gonna do with this but we know u like it so it’ll work anyways”

peak writing foreshadow so strong even the writers might not know whats next

[misty fable]

idk you don't look like a person who would ragebait someone

[split night]

it's weird because like, i think we will never get a clear cut past about ourselves other than just lore nit bits that can help enhance the interpretation

[sick quest]

I expected our character to get some major backstory in fruma because thats where we’re from but then we go woosh infinite void of nothingness inside our soul

[earnest prairie]

this isnt sarcasm btw this is me exaggerating details on my excitement for future stuff

[zenith vigil]

genuinely what are you ever looking at here

[sick quest]

o7 yeah this shits hype

[earnest prairie]

imagine were immortal lol. first fruman king lol

[sick quest]

Fr

[primal leaf]

They might break the 4th wall and consider us

[split night]

it's pretty much confirmed anyway unless they changed their mind

[zenith vigil]

i would hope we’re immortal age mechanic in wynn would not be fun

[sick quest]

We are somewhat of a blank slate (intentionally) but also we come from fruma and have some strange magic shit going on

[split night]

give us more stuff to build around with

[fervent sun]

you seen the anathema dialogue talking about our strenght?

[split night]

so many player is a realm beast theories

[earnest prairie]

not rlly. too many dialogue options. can only remember so much while shes throwing saws at me

[split night]

just read the doc

[earnest prairie]

oh theres a doc for that? sweet!

[primal leaf]

we could as well become the realm beast of wynn

[sick quest]

I lowkey fuck with the PC being if not the realm beast a scion of the realm of physicality

[split night]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FeIyKgKSvTZc9R2xyJXjibaLKravjEqveKG5sB87iG8/edit?usp=sharing

[earnest prairie]

“We are Wynn” fnaf moment

[split night]

most of them are pretty depressing

[sick quest]

It feels like itd be cool if the realm of physicality is trying to reject/erase the invasions of the realms of influence

[vestal rivet]

Physical Plane Realm Beast

[earnest prairie]

our true form: ball

we are ball. we are knowledge

[primal leaf]

“yo tcc slime that dog”

[vestal rivet]

out true form is a driver of a Ford F150

[earnest prairie]

silly thats the corkian realm beast

[vestal rivet]

Orphion is part dear, he doesn't stand a chance

[earnest prairie]

oh deer

[hybrid gazelle]

How much bullshit can we put into a theory where it stop being a theory but it's a shitpost

[earnest prairie]

with unreleased content besides modern concepts pretty much limitless theorycrafting

[primal leaf]

there’s a hidden realm of dragons

[fervent sun]

the dialogue that i was talking about, i still recommend reading the doc

[primal leaf]

and nobody knows about it yet

[split night]

I just start labelling them as their OC at this point

[hybrid gazelle]

some wynncraft hteory I seen is just so desperate to be matpat

which is like

it's funny at least

I dont think anything will top that Qira will become new Beast of Dern

[split night]

have you seen the "player-just-pop-into-existent-one-day-in-the-caravan" theory

[hybrid gazelle]

I seen a lot

[vestal rivet]

Matpat saying the Ghost of Hallownest is the Pale King energy?

[hybrid gazelle]

and it like yeah sure why not

[earnest prairie]

i like theory crafting personally. good for jokes and ideas the content team can steal and we say 3yrs later “I CALLED IT”

[split night]

they could pull a toby fox

[earnest prairie]

the difference is toby fox always gets away with it

[split night]

because his writing is goated

[sick quest]

Im rereading the dialogue doc and this continues to add fuel to my desire for a lil War baby caterpillar to appear by the corruption portal

[earnest prairie]

BUTTT i did hear black knife in that lootrun ost so maybe

[split night]

Trashie have that covered

[vestal rivet]

this being common bugs me because it makes sense in the sense that we have very little else to go off of
nobody recognized us in Fruma, and we found no record of ourselves anywhere
unless there's log of us in the Deraj when we get there

[split night]

xd

[sick quest]

I want us to adopt the next War (rip Anathema)

[split night]

I hate that theory too dw

it's silly but if someone actually think that is true

boy

[vestal rivet]

it exists because there's next to nothing else

[earnest prairie]

s there like

even a timeline of where we are at x quest?

[hybrid gazelle]

this also apply to Tasim

[split night]

it's literally a crackpot theory that people seriously believe in it

xd

[hybrid gazelle]

Like

I am not kidding

NOBODY recongize Tasim

recall anytime people actually remember Tasim in Fruma LOL

[split night]

tasim-appear-out-of-no-where-in-a-random-ass-house-in-aspren theory

[hybrid gazelle]

like nobody remember player so it mean they must appear out of nowhere theory kinda get fuck over

[vestal rivet]

we see him in the Recover the Past cutscenes briefly
we know he once lived in Espren

[hybrid gazelle]

because even fucking Tasim

[hybrid gazelle]

yes

[vestal rivet]

but yeah that's all we have

[hybrid gazelle]

we do have evidence of that

but then AGAIN

nobody remember Tasim

not even the elaves

[vestal rivet]

as for us, we don't even have THAT

[hybrid gazelle]

not even Zhiraok

nobody just rmeember Tasim

[earnest prairie]

does fruma like also brainwash theentire populace while they sleep or smth into forgetting tasim and others?

[split night]

not even the gossip Aspren citizens

[formal bridge]

Tbf he seems to have just been a dude if my memory serves correctly

[hybrid gazelle]

extactly

[formal bridge]

Not special enough to be remembered in that kind of way

[vestal rivet]

Tasim wasn't a member of the leaves I think?
also have the Espren citizens seen Tasim even?

[hybrid gazelle]

the fact that Tasim exist prove that palye can exist before the event of the gmae

because again

not even people talk about Tasim

[hybrid gazelle]

I am giving example

that NOBODY

mention or remember Tasim

he might as well not in Fruma

Me and my friends poke fun at that fact to the writer a lot

it really funny

because Taism just legit

a nobody

[primal leaf]

where tf is tasim’s family bro

[split night]

dead

[primal leaf]

oh

[split night]

im kidding

[hybrid gazelle]

if someone liek tasim can exist

[split night]

i have no idea

[formal bridge]

I'm more surprised we never hear of Aledar tbh since we know he was a rebel against the crown

Unless he was on his own or something

[hybrid gazelle]

I pretty sure player being somebody in Fruma is not far fetch too

[split night]

i mean at least we know Aledar was part of the leaves

[hybrid gazelle]

he has a grave

[split night]

which mean he had a lot of friends

[hybrid gazelle]

but yeah

the leaves know of Aledar

and it kinda "imply" that Zeph do have some bond with Aledar

but it just speculation

[split night]

I love how Tasim is really is a mirror of what <Character> would become given the right circumstances

to the very end

[slender copper]

Mostly an orphan judging from how the house he was in, he lived alone (he also was cursed so he likely intentionally pushed himself away from people to avoid being revealed)

[split night]

hey corr

are you alright

why is your name a bunch of thing now

xd

[slender copper]

I can't decide lol

[hybrid gazelle]

Tasim is such a nobody

that not even his house is occupy

after all thing happen

like

he is just that of a nobody

nobody recongize that he is gone

nobody remember him

nobody mention him

[formal bridge]

Tbf it does make sense

He was cursed and knew it

[split night]

The people wiping his memory had trouble finding memories to wipe

😭

[formal bridge]

He probably isolated himself a ton

[hybrid gazelle]

Sui also knew she was cursed

yes she has interaction with the leaves

[formal bridge]

Sui had the leaves and family

[hybrid gazelle]

Tasin just THAT anti-social

[formal bridge]

Tasim didnt get so lucky

[split night]

the thing is like
people from Aspren know of Sui

like

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah

[split night]

the guy who sell food to Sui know her a lot because she is a frequent customer

[hybrid gazelle]

It not just the leaves

[split night]

or more

[hybrid gazelle]

Also red fox too

[split night]

she had friends in Aspren

Tasim is just

[primal leaf]

oh boy i hope to see more of tasim’s story when the badlands releases

[split night]

literally no one remember him

[formal bridge]

She does but thats because she had support and people around her

Tasim.was probably so paranoid and alone he never felt comfortable going out unless necessary

Esp since he was so quick to heal Aledar he's probably put himself at risk in past with similar events

Heal someone injured then sprint away before anyone catches him

[split night]

I think this is a little bit weird considering the memory wiping only wipe your memories, it doesn't wipe most of your personality

judging from the examples of Aledar or Elise

[formal bridge]

Tbf if his memories are of having to run from people and be distrusting to protect himself

Wiping them would return him to his non traumatized personality

[slender copper]

Didn't Elise just have dementia?

[primal leaf]

that means there’s a condition that could bring back your memories

[formal bridge]

Which also explains why he starts acting weirder after recover the past

[hybrid gazelle]

no

[split night]

pretty sure she got her memory wiped

[hybrid gazelle]

she has memory wipe lOL

[formal bridge]

Dude is dealing with half remembered traumas

[hybrid gazelle]

thaere entire cutscene for that

[fervent sun]

the humble inquisitor in elise's door

[split night]

oh yeah right

[hybrid gazelle]

she got memeory wipe and with memory we able to break the spell

[primal leaf]

elise got the same treatment with the memory wiping stuff but they only wiped her face i think

[slender copper]

Ah-

[split night]

our past vision is just too goated

[primal leaf]

this implies that we can unlock other memories right? why not ours???

[formal bridge]

I wonder if it'll ever be explained how the player character sees these visions and memories of the past

[slender copper]

Yeah an even more bigger idea on how the [player] can just... do that 💀

[formal bridge]

I mean there's obv something special about the PC

[hybrid gazelle]

first, doctor picard orb explode

[formal bridge]

Anathema says as much herself

[hybrid gazelle]

and second

nothing in Fruma so far remind us of our past

again

Fruma story is not meant to dig deep into player character

[split night]

it was deliberate
our memory got hidden by a vast powerful "thing" and it masked us behind a LARGE emptiness

[hybrid gazelle]

(cause it up to intereptation)

[primal leaf]

we must be beyond fruma then

[hybrid gazelle]

we are from Fruma

what

[split night]

it always is up to interpretation, not matter what

😭

[hybrid gazelle]

guys please

[split night]

we just know that we are from Fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

watch salted interview

please

[formal bridge]

I still think you are taking that statement way too literally

[primal leaf]

salted had an interview?

[split night]

then how did you took it 😭

[slender copper]

Yes!

[primal leaf]

Idk I was just thinking that we could be from somewhere else originally before fruma

[split night]

even CT confirm that the player's <Character> is up into interpretation

what else is there to take from that

[formal bridge]

I know trashie has taken that statement in past to mean that literally nothing about the player character will ever be recealed ever

As in even the special thing about us

Will never be addressed

[primal leaf]

that means oc’s are cannon

[hybrid gazelle]

never say that

but okay

and even if I say that

that before Fruma is out

[formal bridge]

I remember us having a conversation about this

After fruma is out

[hybrid gazelle]

then I dont remember

because again I barely remember anything in wynncord

[split night]

yeah, i interpret that every <Character> ever is just different timelines

you got yours, i got mine

type shit

[hybrid gazelle]

which is tbh does not matter that much

[formal bridge]

Where I was specualating and you went "but it's up to interpretation" repeatedly to theories being made

[hybrid gazelle]

I see

yeah sure that happen

[primal leaf]

yk this could be setting up for the time and space shi in the far future but it’s all speculation

[formal bridge]

I still assume that at the very least that special thing about us will be confirmed

[split night]

you gotta take into consideration that CT will only leave us the dough while we bake the bread
that's what they're doing, always

that's what working with Up-into-interpretation mean

[formal bridge]

Yeah Im fine with most being left up to interpretation

I just believe that at the very least this one actually important story detail will be addressed

[split night]

yeah

[formal bridge]

Like, they wont say where the player lived or what they were doing pre memory wipe

[primal leaf]

pls let there be a secret dragon province that nobody knows in the future ct

[lavish knot]

Its honestly refreshing that they gave us some detail and we get to play around with them

[formal bridge]

But that like... we were born with the macguffin inside us from the beginning, or we were chosen by some nebulois entity

[split night]

I'm just interpreting the spark as this little gremblin

[formal bridge]

Some reason why the PC is so weird compared to other recruits

[hybrid gazelle]

I mean i would say Tasim is more weird consider how he manage to make no friend even after a big reset in his life

but sure

[formal bridge]

Anathema literally has a dialogue tree going "ooo, there's something special about you, I never saw that before... bleh"

[hybrid gazelle]

it take fucking skill of anti social to do that

[formal bridge]

Yeah I do hope we at least get more Tasim backstory even if just in a conversation with him

[split night]

she's funny for her last word to be that "you're very secretly powerful" and die

[hybrid gazelle]

Tasim mf straight up has no friends both IN and OUT of Fruma

HOW

HOW HAS THIS MAN NOT END IT ALL YET

[formal bridge]

Even if it's just an epilogue conversation where we go

"Hey, did you look into your past here in fruma?"
"No, I don't want to, it'd be too painful"

[split night]

because of his boyfriend

[formal bridge]

I wanna know how angsty butterfly boy feels about it

[hybrid gazelle]

Consider how some scions have wing

like Tasim has butterfly's wing

Lari with bird wing

angel wing

[split night]

I wanna see bak'al wing

[hybrid gazelle]

to be extact

[split night]

give that asshole aura

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah Bak'al probably have wing

that would be funny

butterfly as wings

he gonna look so stupid

[split night]

okay that would give him aura debt

xd

[vestal rivet]

halloween costume bat wings

[formal bridge]

Butterfly or moth wings that are tattered and town and dim in color

[lavish knot]

He could have those wings with the eyes

[formal bridge]

Maybe he has wings closer to anathema's own due to being the first scion

[slender copper]

And also having unfiltered power.

[formal bridge]

Tasim got the temu wings

[sick quest]

I wonder if the fruma ult discoveries will show the break-up

[split night]

do we count bak'al as anathema's first love

[formal bridge]

I do wonder what all the ult discoveries will be, cause some of the ones we already have would be ult discoveries anywhere else

[sick quest]

Also its interesting that it seems like Bak’al is the one behind the corruption not War

[sick quest]

Yes absolutely

[formal bridge]

Yes absolutely 1000%

[split night]

weirdest ship of all

[sick quest]

I guess one will be the first arrival of anathema to fruma

[formal bridge]

Either romantic or familial

[sick quest]

One will be why Bak’al hated fruma enough to manipulate anathema into taking over

[split night]

bak'al was supportive of the transition but he left after she finished transitioning 😔

[lavish knot]

Isnt Bak'al the first scion tho?

[formal bridge]

Yeah

[sick quest]

Ye

[split night]

yes

[sick quest]

I hadnt seen the dialogue where Anathema talks abt not being able to control the corruption

[split night]

kinda wonder whether or not the world's first scion is lari or bak'al

[sick quest]

Which is super interesting

[split night]

it's implied anyway

from what we see in RoL

[sick quest]

Probably Lari since the Orphion portal opened first

[sick quest]

I mean its directly stated on the anathema death dialogue doc

[split night]

it's a natural reaction of the body to foreign thing

[sick quest]

But the corruption is “of anathema”

[lavish knot]

If Anathema could control all of corruption, Wynn would be very different

[sick quest]

It came from the Realm of War and the Clashing realms of influence but Bak’al alone can control it

[vestal rivet]

eh
I still blame the elves
tree-climbing halfwits!

[split night]

it would look beautiful really, Anathema have no plan in destroying the world, she only have one and that is to scare her deadbeat parents

[sick quest]

Whoever had the theory that Bak’al will be the final boss their stonks are shooting up

[split night]

reasonable
i can only blame the first elders

they were the true assholes

[lavish knot]

Literal domino effect

[split night]

literally die peacefully of old age after causing one of the most important event in the story

[sick quest]

Do we have any idea what could be giving the dark its extra strength

[split night]

that lead to billions of death

[formal bridge]

Hopefully bak'al gets some actual interesting character writing in the ult discoveries or an eventual revamp cause right now his current form is not one I'm interested in lmao

[sick quest]

Other than me the scion of saphanis ofc

[split night]

not rn, probably in the future

[vestal rivet]

curse of tolkien-inspired elves being haughty and egotistical for no reason (baring the actual tolkien elves)

[sick quest]

Same but fruma starts teasing some big things

[formal bridge]

My theory is brainwashed bob, but we don't have any concrete info

[lavish knot]

Two is still investigating to how

[split night]

is Saphanis not letting you know these information

[vestal rivet]

Bak'al proving the dark with his remaining blessing and helping with it somehow?

[sick quest]

He has this new employee who is such a teacher’s pet named Bak’al im feeling pretty neglected

[sick quest]

Fruma/Anathema starts making him a lot more interesting

He was dying and Anathema gave him power to save him

But gave him way more than he could handle

[formal bridge]

I wouldn't be shocked if Bak'al backstabs Saphanis and helps us, only to backstab us right back in return

Like I see a hypothetical two phase raid boss similar to Orph

First phase we defeat Saphanis, Bak'al steals the power and we have to then defeat him

[split night]

he's just a fucking slime 😭
absolute opportunistic fraud, that's his best characterization

[sick quest]

Im hoping that the Saphanis fight includes fighting Orphion

1v1v1

[lavish knot]

Battle royale

[split night]

realm things over and we can finally visit bloomy

[sick quest]

Lowkey maybe we will see the Corrupted!timeline actually become a thing if Bak’al gets a major power up post Dern arc

Since the corruption seems entirely Bak’al related

And we dont actually know why the corrupted dungeons are what they are just that some time into a version of the far future the corruption took over

[formal bridge]

I have to wonder if corrupted dungeons are even going to stick around tbh

[split night]

it's powered by yet again another cosmic crystal

so it is literally just drugs

we are sniffin drugs

[sick quest]

Im hoping Bob and Lari are doom guy fighting their way through dern

[lavish knot]

So corruption dungeons the player just stands there?

[split night]

doomslayer lari

[split night]

yeah definitely

we're inhaling all those crystal particle

[sick quest]

Professor eih got us high again

[hybrid gazelle]

COrrupted dungeon is entirely hinged on the fact that does the CT really want to make the same dungeon again or not

[fervent sun]

wait we tripping in a flying island and thats all?

[formal bridge]

We lie on the ground teitching occasionally for 20 minutes through the full run of 8 dungeons and then manifest a ton of items oit of nothint

[hybrid gazelle]

because the issue with corrupted dungeon

[lavish knot]

The blood bowl is just extra stuff

[hybrid gazelle]

if you remake ONE dungeon

then you remake TWO dungeons

because corrupted variant exist

[split night]

yeah below the Forgery you can see there is a large crystal with a bunch of crystal thingies protecting it

[formal bridge]

And then do it again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again again and again and again and again and again until you get a mythic

[split night]

it's a great powerlevel spot too if you want to do it

[hybrid gazelle]

which is probably why we dont give something liek corrupted variant for raid

and instead it jsut guid raid

[sick quest]

If its not corruption thats buffing dern i hope its one of the eldritch horrors from space

[split night]

but yeah it's literally just us sniffin drug on top of the forgery, similar to AHC

[hybrid gazelle]

so I dont think corrupted dungeon going to stick around

At least the one that we know

[formal bridge]

And it's about as worthwhile as AHC too

[split night]

xD

you mean worthless then

[fervent sun]

oh.... the meteor with the runes

[vestal rivet]

I'd rather have actual Gavel dungeons tbh

[formal bridge]

Honestly same

[vestal rivet]

Dullahan castle dungeon

[split night]

Gavel have 3 raids and 2 lrs

it's a lot

[lavish knot]

???: go to this particular location, I hid the strong stuff there

[split night]

the ultimate fetch quest

[formal bridge]

I mean there's otherwise no new dungeons forever except for the factory and the eye

[hybrid gazelle]

the fact we dont get Corrupted Timelost or Fallen factory or EO probably a telling of something

if raid take a year and a half

from what I remember

(WTP that is)

[sick quest]

Dude a dullahan dungeon would be amazing

I need it

[vestal rivet]

NotG by premise feels more like a dungeon tbh
and TCC a major WE with how we in theory are just putting the colossus back to sleep instead of destroying it outright

[hybrid gazelle]

IDK how long dungeon would take espically if they ever going to update it to today standard

[sick quest]

I need more dullahan content desperately

[split night]

is it even worth doing the dungeons
why didn't they make the dungeon reward be able to break down into emerald

it would make it so much more worth it

[formal bridge]

They should at least like

[lavish knot]

40-60 level stuff needs more content

[hybrid gazelle]

"I want more dullahna content"

-Want dullahan dungeon

[formal bridge]

Move the dungeons to a spot which makes sense lore wise

[hybrid gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141462322234277910/1492366416035188847/TwoDead-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[vestal rivet]

first completions give good xp
the items from them are good too... if you're willing to do them on repeat

[formal bridge]

Annihilate one of the useless ocean islands and say it's there instead cause of the corruption portal

[sick quest]

Troms/Dernel Reborn

[split night]

it's not like raid where i immediately get my rewards and boost my dopamine

dungeon are ass to do on repeat for worse rewards

[vestal rivet]

higher cost too

[split night]

you can't even trade them

it's just that bad

[formal bridge]

Yeah it's more grinding for pretty ok stuff at best

[sick quest]

I did FF on repeat for the wand at level and then i realized it was worse than the wand i had

[split night]

best case you can sell the tools

[formal bridge]

When even flawed lootruns are more fun due to the hectic nature they can take on

[split night]

😭

[vestal rivet]

th fact that some of the corrupted dungeon items are STILL relevant somehow is funny too

[hybrid gazelle]

there are people out there that legit think current dungeon is fine which is pretty funny because at shit like Corrupted dungoen have you go through 4 fucking runs to get naything

[formal bridge]

Running back and forth trying to figure out the best beacons and challenges to take

[hybrid gazelle]

BACK THEN

[lavish knot]

I have made the horrible decision to gather all levels of gathering tools

[hybrid gazelle]

you dont even get reward for first time completion for dungeon

[sick quest]

AYYYY SAME

[hybrid gazelle]

like

nto even a joke

back then reward token was not given to you if you complete dungeon quest

you just get a key and that it

[sick quest]

Rn all my gathering tools are just in the 40s

But im gunning for that 100% completion

[hybrid gazelle]

imagine needing to paly raid two time to get meaningful reward

it pretty much like that

[formal bridge]

The dungeon key system is honestly the worst part about them

Esp the corrupted dungeons

Cause then you need to find the random key guardian AND a ton of runes just for 1 run

[hybrid gazelle]

WE make that less of an issue

which is fine

[split night]

cost you like 3 tol runes for corrupted GG dungeon btw
that mean you need 6 tol runes for like... trinkets
imagine how much LEs you can make from 6 Tol rune raid runs

[formal bridge]

Yeah compared to lirerally anything else you could spend runes on

[split night]

you need 15 tol rune for armor and weapon

😭

[formal bridge]

Or just do lootruns for mythics

Who tf wants to grind out corrupted dungeons

[hybrid gazelle]

Dungeon become even less relevant because now you only get ward from either lootrun or raid

so there 0 point of running dungeon

and GOD FORBID how do people even find dungeon fun

[split night]

i don't get them

[hybrid gazelle]

like for few time experiences

okay I get it

[split night]

I can see one or two dungeon being okay

but like

the rest of them are genuinely awful

😭

[hybrid gazelle]

There is no fucking way you look at dungeon's reward system

and go "oh yeah that fine"

[formal bridge]

It worked in early wynn cause back then you would be lucky to have any quest with a unique location with lots of unique enemies and systems throughout

But now every single fruma quest has unique systems and minigames and bosses

So the dungeons are just bland combat gauntlets with occasional parkour

The 'puzzle' area in the time dungeon is literally just killing enemies in a slightly different way

[split night]

GG dungeon was pretty good and decent if i have to be honest

i would still not do it just because i have to do it 2-3 times for an actual reward

which suck ass

[formal bridge]

Yeah it's still too samey

The problem with dungeons is mainly that there's too many of them now frankly

[split night]

repeatable content need immediate rewards if it want the player to keep engage

[hybrid gazelle]

GG dungeon is the original through the pipe cause taht shit was hell on low ping

[formal bridge]

So they can't realistically all get the raid treatment of quality

[split night]

the cannon part 💀

[hybrid gazelle]

not even repeatable content

it just content in genreal need immediate rewards cause like

I do not want to play the same shit agagain

for 4-6 timesd

to get a single items

like

at very least raid give pretty good LE, aspects, tomes, and mroe

[formal bridge]

Yeah I think dungeons need to be treated more as like

Cool one time rewards and story caps

[hybrid gazelle]

like fuck even powders and corkian amplifier

[split night]

Corkian amp IV is very profitable rn

it just make WTP the best money maker raid compare to the rest currently

even if you buy in bulk all the ek runes, you would still have a high net positive earning

[hybrid gazelle]

also offtopic but

this could be legendary island if they do not fuck around

[split night]

boss rush if they were actually peak

[formal bridge]

Spider dungeon is hopefully a blueprint for future dungeon rewrites, where you have a mini storyline leading up to it and the first time completion feels significant due to having your buddies with you

But then every time after it's just another bland dungeon

[split night]

WHY did they have to add the ass token system to legendary island 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

imagine a boss rush that province base or something LOL

[formal bridge]

That one first time thing makes it way more memorable than others

[split night]

just fucking give us a reward after completing a boss rush, it would have been so much more fun to do

the token system suck so much

[formal bridge]

I've never even touched legendary island tbh

[hybrid gazelle]

imagine like how kirby has soul boss at the end of their hardest difficulty

[formal bridge]

I don't want to fight the same bosses like 10 times just for one item

[hybrid gazelle]

imagine if WYnn has spark boss

like Spark of Anathema
Spark of Bob

[split night]

if we live long enough for a dungeon rework and prof rework, and an actual fun bossrush, i would die happy

[hybrid gazelle]

TBH I like the idea of legendary island boss rush has each run deidcate to represent province

IDk about wtf Corkus has

consider its small size

but I fee llike Corkus can just be exclusive boss

[split night]

sponsored by corkus, of course

[formal bridge]

Prof rework is honestly one thing I really wonder how they'd handle

I have no ideas for it personally

[vestal rivet]

Corkus + Islands

[hybrid gazelle]

Fruma could have
Commander Lilies, Zhiraok(phase 2), Potential Soosu fight?, Gikyo, Commander Kaezu, Majin, Tasim, Hyhet, The Queen

[formal bridge]

Corkus has like ten thousand caves to base bosses on I suppose

[hybrid gazelle]

IDK I feel like

it would be fucking sad that all li bosses are base on quest boss

while corkus just

has fucking cave boss LOL

[formal bridge]

Corkus in general needs a big rework lmao

[hybrid gazelle]

then yeah I could see they have their own boss

Wynn could have hmmmm

should dungeon boss even be included

like that the issue

[split night]

you are forgetting hubert

and the roaring knight

[hybrid gazelle]

Hubert only appear in the raid

but yeah Kenshi is fine

IDK

they just

ranodm mobs 😭

actually

those two are just treated as normal mobs

you can find Kenshi in citadel

[formal bridge]

Tbh this is the problem with pretty much every province outside of Fruma lmao

[split night]

I mean like, having less strong people at the start of the bossrush and then progress toward near end where you would decide to risk it all or accept and surrender is honestly a very great idea for me

[hybrid gazelle]

the issue with Wynn is that

should we count dungeon boss

because Akkadicus and Charon would fit

but at the same time

[formal bridge]

Fruma is just so good and polished it reveals how little the rest of the game has lmao

[hybrid gazelle]

LOL

[split night]

have them at the first few boss for a bossrush is like coughing baby vs supernova

[hybrid gazelle]

okay we gonna take the idea that

corrupted dungeon no longer a thing

so we gonna throw in dungeo boss

[split night]

I imagine the bossrush would be like, having enhanced and harder version of the bosses as well, you can also take a boon every 3-4 bosses, it would be cool

[hybrid gazelle]

So Wynn boss rush would have
Witherhead, Akkadicus, Garoth, Charon, The Mummy, Hashr, Cockatrice, Slykaar, Corrupter of Worlds

[split night]

and then like, after we finish Boss Rush Post ( similar to lr posts )
we can do the Ultimate Boss Rush where we have to progress through ALL bosses of the entire game for a good chance at a mythic

xd

[hybrid gazelle]

I feel like

Ultimate boss rush gotta be a thing

it probably impossible cahlleng or whatever

but like just add it in anyway

[split night]

winning it have a 5% chance at a mythic

im not sure if that's high or low considering the 100 of bosses of the game

[zenith vigil]

um

idk 30s to a boss avg?

makes it terribly low

[split night]

you have to fight them in succession
more like, +0.05% per boss defeated and you can give up at any time and claim that pull

it add up to 5% if you run all 100 bosses without dying, some of them are also harder version of their normal selves and stuff

if you die, you lost literally everything

so it's basically an all or nothing, constantly as you move up the ladder

[zenith vigil]

that percentage is complete ass

no one would run that

forgery would be more efficient

[split night]

then up it, this is just a concept idea xd

below 8-10% should be fine since any more and then people would just give up at 50 bosses in and call it a day

or they could do it like the lr system

there genuinely many way to approach this bossrush idea

[worldly raft]

Whats the origin of this sticker?😭 is there a video on yt of the sovereigns doing wtp?

[hybrid gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041788896540897320/1489214381152669827/SovDead-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

just record of beta playthrough with friends lol

[split night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816419729295016048/1505103534675329147/Video_Project_25.gif

[manic kraken]

How could you forget about the corkus supercomputer boss fight

They honestly have to make a corkus revamp

[mystic remnant]

you really want to inflict the chaos of an ava with a canonical portrait on the wynncraft discord?

[hybrid gazelle]

that is not part of Wynn

that corkus

[hybrid gazelle]

to be fair the artists that got into the team made ava protrait

not that it used in the game

but they did make ava protrait before they joined the team LOL

[sick quest]

ew shoo

[formal bridge]

I swear there's another one every day

[sick quest]

get outta here with that bot shit

[mystic remnant]

ive seen the mr beast and ksi ones but apparently theres a jake paul one

atp im just waiting to see if there's a complete set

[sick quest]

actual losers

[formal bridge]

Tbf I'm expecting lots and lots of characters to get portraits at some point. Clearly they just haven't had the time to implement it as of yet

[drifting aurora]

appears in a WE too

[formal bridge]

Lari and Bak'al for one as two very important scions to the story

Axelus and Korzim too

Maxie will get one as well

Lots of the important quest characters

Hell, most of Tasim's lines still don't have his portraits outside fruma

[sick quest]

aledar

amadel

[mystic remnant]

they should give one to my goat general gracken

[formal bridge]

Lmao no

He does not deserve one til a rework

[sick quest]

well yeah

hes a nothing burger of a character

[mystic remnant]

what, you dont like handing successive tokens to his assistant before walking through a door to the next stage

[sick quest]

but hes a main character of a questline

[mystic remnant]

that was the highlight of my wynn career

[formal bridge]

Honestly don't give any villagers portraits until they finally delete villagers from the game and replace them with another species

[mystic remnant]

villager racism

[formal bridge]

Ive discussed it here before but it's moreso just them being from minecraft

Not even including the maybe racist origins of the design (Notch)

[hybrid gazelle]

that to

That

[formal bridge]

They just dont fit in modern wynncraft

[hybrid gazelle]

Two,,,

HOLY SHIT