whatever
#šlore_discussion
frozen turtle
and because of the weird thing about how the recruits "come in pairs" he'd be the one to send us off so idk
Caravan driver is the imposter
hybrid gazelle
full jackal
Whatās that?
split night
Anathema marking
symbol thing
it's a combination of Orphion and Saphanis symbol
thingies
hybrid gazelle
this was the old design but it like
so fucking ugly
IDK if children of Bak'al should exist but I will think about it
proud ginkgo
a bit too much?
hybrid gazelle
too proper
too clean for what cultists should be in wynn
they should be under geared and insane
slender copper
That is so funny I had the same idea for my au š
hybrid gazelle
Captain Fordon have story about how he was a captain in Detlas army
and after fighting Annie, he went insane and realize how fucked the Wynn is
full jackal
so fucking ugly
āSo fucking uglyā
hybrid gazelle
and just simply want to end it all
full jackal
literally better than anything ive ever made
hybrid gazelle
IDK if I should make Annihilation's disciple the main rep of the cultists or not
full jackal
uhh.. no not really
hybrid gazelle
ORIIGNALLY I used the cultist design from website for Children of Bak'al
since Annihilation's disciple and Children of Bak'al got entirely different goal and method to be one faction
but then I am like
IDK if they should be one orn ot
full jackal
But like yea RoL really needs a serious rework to make Fruma make more sense
In RoL V
The context of ONoL is that you have to SAVE ORPHION
And in NDVDE theyāre like THE LIGHT IS FADING ITS EMBODIMENT IS SUFFERING SAVE HIM
So all of ts kinda makes Orphion out to be some noble hero
Vanguard of Gavel
But then in the Fruma Arc heās portrayed as another warring force trying to take over the world for his own pride
Obviously the latter depiction is much more interesting
But honestly I donāt think we should just not save Orphion
Cuz thatās what needs to happen as the first step to restoring balance
But I think after Fruma Arc maybe the player sorta realises that thereās a better way to protect the Plane of Existence than perpetually having to help the other side whenever one of them has the upper hand
Like maybe in NDVDE it could be more rewritten to be
Okay Iām not a good writer so this is like some shitty bullshit probably just uhh
Something like ahhh
split night
man, you'd have been a fanatic guy to talk to in undertale community
full jackal
Darkness has Tipped the Scales. Restore the Balance.
full jackal
man, you'd have been a fanatic guy to talk to in undertale community
Canāt tell if thatās sarcasm but thanks lmao
split night
take that as a compliment
full jackal
Okay lmao
full jackal
man, you'd have been a fanatic guy to talk to in undertale community
You would not have wanted to talk to me when I was in the undertale community at that time I had actual negative media literacy
And like I started making up AU ideas in my head while on the school bus and all of it looking back was generic uncreative garbage
split night
it's fine i've seen way too much of that while i was still in there
you're not alone
and beside, who even care if it's cringe? it made you happy
that's what matters
full jackal
Like I know I was like 9 at the time so ofc it wouldnāt be great but likeā¦ actually I hate it
full jackal
and beside, who even care if it's cringe? it made you happy
It does not make me in the present happy
split night
xd
full jackal
Like thank god I never shared that shit with anyone
full jackal
Iām not saying the stuff I make now is great or even good, but at least it wasnāt THAT
full jackal
You know that Judgement hall looks really nice actually
full jackal
Wait you drew that?
split night
yeah
beside the first scene, i drew all of it
i made this thumbnail for example
it's a very cool song
split night
xd
full jackal
Iāve always found it a bit weird how dungeonās just abruptly end, so I wrote some dialogue for dungeon epilogues.
Shit shit
Shit i didnāt mean to do that
Fuck
hybrid gazelle
with the concept of focus being more vary
I like the idea of gun being a focus
probably need to workshop the idea more
but I can imagine it relatively early invention when Gavel and Wynn made contact
dim plover
Is there a specific name I can type here
slim belfry
you get it from all the papers
slim belfry
I forgot
split night
with the concept of focus being more vary
You actually make a focus gun xd
what if the focus part is the bullet? you just make magic bullet for infinite ammo
limber swan
Is there a specific name I can type here
Niren
split night
I'd assume the gun itself works
Bullet bomb
vestal rivet
HE Round
split night
the bullet already killed you, the bomb is here to make sure of that
vestal rivet
split night
obliteration
split night
I feel like
he's the least threatening people to ever threaten us
considering how many thing and people we've killed
full jackal
Decrepit Sewers:
Witherhead: Noā¦ How could I loseā¦ to a weakling like you!
Witherhead: Youā¦ youā¦
at this point Witherhead falls down to the floor in a kneeling position and the corrupted withermites infesting her brain exit her skeleton and scuttle away
Witherhead?: ā¦ whereā¦ where am I?
Witherhead?: M-my child..? Where are you?
Witherhead?: C-comeā¦ backā¦
Witherhead collapses
Infested Pit (honestly Iād rename it to be Throne of the Arachnids):
Arkadius: Aghā¦ my children, do not weep for meā¦
Arkadius: You must carry on the task of retaking our homeland!
Arkadius: You mustnāt fail, we cannot let the Humans prevailā¦
You walk up to Arkadiusās dying form
Arkadius: ā¦ what do you want from me?
Arkadius: You ruined everything, everything!
Arkadius: We could have retaken what was ours, but it was all for naughtā¦
Arkadius: Thanks to the disgusting filth such as youā¦
You: What are you talking about?
Arkadius: Youā¦ you are not aware?
Arkadius: This landā¦ the woodsā¦ it once was the home of our kindā¦
Arkadius: Until, humans came along.
Arkadius: You TOOK, and TOOK and TOOK, till nothing was left of our territory except for this Mountain.
Arkadius: So what if a few lives had to be lost so that we could reclaim what was ours?
Arkadius: Believe me, this is not the end. My time has come to an end, but my children will carry on my work.
Arkadius: Your filth will never know peace, not until you have paid a thousandfold, then a thousandfold more
You: I-
Arkadius: I do not want to hear it.
Arkadius: Just let me die in peace.
Underworld crypt:
Graken: Hah! Good show old bean, you really showed that fellow whoās the hot stuff!
Charon: MYā¦ MY ARMY!
Charon: WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU BUMBLING BUFFOONS? THE ENEMY IS RIGHT THERE!
Charon: ALL TROOPS, FORMATION VII! THIS IS AN ORDER!
Graken: Now now bony chap, that is no way to be treatinā your soldiers!
Charon: REMEMBER YOUR DISCIPLINE, OR YOU WILL END UP LIKE THE FOOLS OF THE FALLEN CITY!
Charon: I REPEAT, ALL TROOPS, FORMATION VII!
You run up to Charon and deal the finishing blow. He looks shocked, somehow, even with his lack of eyes, and he promptly crumbles into a pile of bones. Graken looks pleased with you, and he flashes a winning smile.
dim plover
Just finished the quest, is there anything I can do with this?
full jackal
Whatās that?
mossy badge
Just finished the quest, is there anything I can do with this?
Trophy ig
dim plover
cool
hybrid gazelle
You actually make a focus gun xd
what if the focus part is the bullet? you just ...
consider what ofcus is
making bullet a focus would be very wasteful and counter productive
so I say gun would be the focus
I can imagine you do can do various of thing with it
infusing bullets with magic for different effect
maybe able to manipulate the fire power of the fire arms
that just a lot of idea you can do
lavish knot
I imagine a gun being a focus is like how a bow would be a focus
full jackal
Itās interesting tho
Cuz Timelost Sanctum has cannons and stuff
Which implies that Cannons are actually really old in Wynn
split night
or
those stuff just kinda travel in time as the guy just pull thing out of his ass
xd
full jackal
And irl cannons were invented in 1100s - 1200s
I mean, does technology even advance in Wynn?
Like ofc I can excuse the Olm having advanced stuff cuz they were wiped out
And I donāt expect Wynn to be like technologically amazing granted they have to fight a corruption war
Butā¦ with Corkus inventing sentient AI and electromagic, and Fruma being in the ~1850s technologically
Youād think Wynn and Gavel would have integrated at least some of the Corkian technology into their military arsenal
But no they just build funny mansion houses and pesticides
ashen salmon
isnt corkian tech canonically like super expensive
full jackal
Steal it
Like some corkian is gonna spill the secrets behind electromagic eventually right?
Like Corkus has been around for ~150 years and theyāve clearly had a lot of time with their newfound technology
spring kernel
no alt paths :)
full jackal
Not sure if it was there before but Silence has one now
full jackal
no alt paths :)
DAMNIT I THOUGHT IT WAS A TEASRE FOR ALT PATH
rustic nexus
ok it seems only ally has it
full jackal
I mean Tasim hasnāt been a very good ally in the Queen path
rustic nexus
DAMMIT
full jackal
ok it seems only ally has it
Silence has it too though
Maybe it had it before though
rustic nexus
always had it
full jackal
I mean Tasim hasnāt been a very good ally in the Queen path
So I thought itād be for like alt path
full jackal
always had it
Nooo T_T
spring kernel
alt paths would be cool but unfortunately that's like 12 new quests
full jackal
No i mean tasim is gonna help out obv
With the leaves since heās listed as a member
spring kernel
Oh that's what you mean
full jackal
I think it was a great decision to have the Queen path released first tho
rustic nexus
yeah that's the main one
full jackal
Wait which one is canon
rustic nexus
whichever you pick
full jackal
SO there isnāt a main one then
full jackal
Then that means that the Leaves path isnāt actually alt
Wait does taking the Leaves or Queen path change the outcome of DERN
rustic nexus
what
full jackal
Like will the ending of Wynncraft change depending on if you tell Tasim about Aledar
full jackal
What queen path
I mean main path
rustic nexus
why would it???
full jackal
Iā¦ donāt know I guess Iāve played too much Deltarune
spring kernel
I mean main path
what's the leaves path then
full jackal
alt path
spring kernel
why is the leaves one the alt path
full jackal
Since tasim will probably go with the leaves in that case
hybrid gazelle
I just come here
spring kernel
what does it have to do with the leaves
hybrid gazelle
and like
full jackal
why is the leaves one the alt path
I dont know
hybrid gazelle
wtf you all talking about
full jackal
what does it have to do with the leaves
Cuz I assume Tasim will be helping with the leaves I guess
rustic nexus
Since tasim will probably go with the leaves in that case
he won't???
like
tasim being included in the leaves in the website was just a misdirect
slender copper
wtf you all talking about
I think they're talking about the logistics of how an alt route would go if we told Tasim about Aledar.
rustic nexus
putting him in the sovereign category would spoil a twist in the quests
full jackal
tasim being included in the leaves in the website was just a misdirect
Wait what
rustic nexus
where else would he have been put in those 2 categories to not spoil his role other than in the leaves section
full jackal
Nooooooo T_T
spring kernel
Yeah i think you're anticipating too much change in the alt route
calling it an alt route at all is a bit untrue
rustic nexus
the alt route is just gonna be different talks with tasim I think
he's not gonna be angry with you at the dam
full jackal
ā¦does this mean Rex will be fine then?
dim plover
The alt route wonāt change much, yeah
Most thatāll happen is probably something minor, like Tasim killing Zhiraok by accident and the Queen tripping on his dropped spear into the Wynn Corruption Portal
cedar kernel
When will we get the Tasim fighting the wing knights ingame 
dim plover
Canāt wait for it to be added!
hybrid gazelle
the alt route just change dialogue from what I heard
so dont expect it to be something big
dim plover
When will we get the Tasim fighting the wing knights ingame <:saltroll:827620910...
If thatās actually in the Tasim alt route then itāll be really funny because the main thing the first third of the Wynncraft trailer was advertising was part of unfinished future content rather than in the release itself
full jackal
If it is then wouldnāt that imply that Tasim will go against Queen?
spring kernel
Salted has said what the first third of the trailer is
full jackal
Isā¦?
hybrid gazelle
It just gonna be dialogue change
it literalyl just that
the the alt route
dialogue change
full jackal
Spoilers for Deltarune: Knightmare is ||The Roaring Knight||
As in Knightmare from WTP
marble lantern
calling it an alt route at all is a bit untrue
If the Alt Route isnt that different why wait to drop it? Or was it just not finished lol
full jackal
Well tbf dialogue takes a while to write
Cuz like you really do wanna get it right you know
And CT deserves a break after releasing such a good update lmao
hybrid gazelle
If the Alt Route isnt that different why wait to drop it? Or was it just not fin...
because it not finish
they did not expect it to take this long
also Tasim just difficult to write
cause
he is tasim
marble lantern
Had a feelin, and yeah Update is goated.
hybrid gazelle
it will come in form of a patch
full jackal
Honestly donāt rush it
Fruma could only be so good because they cooked for so long
split night
hey guys like
Lari to the parasite
full jackal
X_X
full jackal
<@&268142859327242242>
???
split night
mr breast
unborn perch
don't forget elphie wanted to sacrifice Tasim (then later on, the player) to open the outlook :d
full jackal
mr breast
What the fuck are you talking about this is #šlore_discussion
split night
don't forget elphie wanted to sacrifice Tasim (then later on, the player) to op...
the contexts of the quest changed
replay it
full jackal
/hj
split night
on a second save
unborn perch
i'll check this later, I have all classes level 105 and iirc i didn't finished the quest on every single one
full jackal
Basically they changed it so that there wasnāt actually a plan on who to sacrifice
And they kinda decided to decide on it at the last moment
split night
it will still get a proper rework i assume but for now that's a good enough recontext
it's an important one anyway
full jackal
And wellā¦ Elphaba and Lucio were dead and Aledar was pretty much half dead so he chose us to do EldOut
This is like the 5th time someone brought this up this week
split night
the fact that if true, this is weirdly out of character for everyone involve to plan on sacrifies one of the 4
so it's best just leave it at "we didn't plan it that far"
it's better that way
ashen salmon
didnt aledar say that if elphaba was alive at that point she would have insisted on being the sacrifice
split night
yeah that is still we didn't plan it that far
it's more Aledar thinking highly of her
like saying "she would do this heroic thing because she's good"
he respected her
marble lantern
I have a Hunted class that hasnt done the SE quest yet, ill refresh myself then
split night
can i know where you are so i can steal your stuff
marble lantern
its just morph you aint gettin much
split night
its just morph you aint gettin much
The total sell of morph set is near 1 stx of LEs rn
I would get a lot
xd
marble lantern
good luck then
full jackal
like saying "she would do this heroic thing because she's good"
I imagine they all really didnāt wanna talk about it
SO they were just really avoidant about it
split night
Who would even talk about sacrificing their friend
full jackal
Exactly
full jackal
They donāt wanna have to face the truth that one of them is gonna die
split night
but that's my opinion
full jackal
Are you playing on switch?
full jackal
Dang
split night
it look like this
compact agate
This is good Wynncraft lore
split night
i agree
full jackal
it look like this
^^ Aforementioned wynncraft lore
Also I actually canāt believe AJB starts with a fetch quest
Like why
What purpose does the fetch quest part serve other than fluff
Actually come to think of it
Half the quest is the fetch quest bit
Granted itās one of the more fun fetch quests
But like shouldnāt we be in the Journey Beyond or smth
hybrid gazelle
so far for wartorn project I want to expand more stuff with each factions in wynn province
So far in alliance I want to make each colonies have their own purpose in the alliance
Ragni - Food production and fruman recruits
Detals - trade and goods distribution and representative
Nemract - Off sea resources
Almuj - Exotic goods(It's only desert in this entire world LOL)
Troms - Ores extraction and best millitary power
like rough summary
I did not get to expand on Troms being source for good metal in last iteration
because I did not have idea to expand resources and materials yet
but troms have access to cobalt and stuff which prove to be really good against corruption
full jackal
Makes sense
iāve always though wynn could explain more on how its economy works
also did you just call deltas ādetalsā
hybrid gazelle
Nesaak stay isolated due to the fact that it's close off
it technically treat as minor settlement
full jackal
id think nesaak in wynn would have a pretty major fishing industry (in canon)
hybrid gazelle
no
zinc quarry
how do settlements in the canyon of the lost work if the canyon is constantly shifting? Would the settlements not constantly be destroyed by the canyon's movements?
split night
also did you just call deltas ādetalsā
it's just a mistype
hybrid gazelle
Maltic is part of Ragni territory
Ternaves and Brimminglar is part of Almuj territory
Angry village is Detlas' territory
hybrid gazelle
how do settlements in the canyon of the lost work if the canyon is constantly sh...
yes but it did not reach it yet
I think there lore about that
IDK
but like IDK about eltom it just exist
full jackal
Isnāt thesead like not that far away from the colossus though
split night
Isnāt thesead like not that far away from the colossus though
a few mountain far yeah?
i mean nothing is really far away from the colossus if its sword can break appart terrain like that
zinc quarry
but like IDK about eltom it just exist
šæ
zinc quarry
a few mountain far yeah?
isnt the collossus able to influence the whole canyon tho
shut mist
isnt the collossus able to influence the whole canyon tho
yes
zinc quarry
like thats how the decay wasnt able to spread there no?
full jackal
probably..?
split night
below text
zinc quarry
so like what is protecting the settlements
split night
like thats how the decay wasnt able to spread there no?
too far, and Lari is preventing the Decay from further spread
full jackal
so like what is protecting the settlements
hopes and dreams
split night
but we already cut off the source so it's no worries
full jackal
honestly it will take a massive while for the forests to heal
zinc quarry
how did they escape destruction for so long
full jackal
but the settlments in the cotl seem faily developed
no fucking clue dude
zinc quarry
actually how do trees work in cotl if the canyon constantly moves
the movement cannot be conducive to developing a root system
full jackal
maybe theg kove woth the mountains or something
zinc quarry
no fucking clue dude
š
hybrid gazelle
zinc quarry
ok ig
full jackal
accoridng to the finding meaning
sounds like its been around for like at least one or two decades tho
zinc quarry
https://wynncraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Finding_Meaning
yeah but its still been there for at least a couple of years
and like surely the cotl would not have earned its name if it only moved majorly once every couple od decades or wtv
full jackal
yea if its really constantly shifting then it shouldnāt be surviving
full jackal
and like surely the cotl would not have earned its name if it only moved majorly...
true
Like maybe the whole mountain moves in that case?
and the town moves with it?
split night
there are still pathways in the cayon, if the mountain move, wouldn't there be no pathways as well??
full jackal
but then a lot of objects would break
full jackal
there are still pathways in the cayon, if the mountain move, wouldn't there be n...
Oh my god yea
how are there pathways
split night
gotta consider a lot of things in the canyon if you really think it move that frequently
xd
zinc quarry
pathways make some sense maybe but like the bridges in cotl absolutely do not
cuz pathways are faily easy to make
full jackal
I mean how is there any infrastructure at all tbh
split night
I just imagine it as a sign of the colossus waking up
it would explain why the mountain move and shit
it never mentioned again when we beat the colossus so
full jackal
What?
I mean like the canyon should have been moving for at least a millennia
And it
āS gotta move pretty frequently too given how fast decay spreads
split night
āS gotta move pretty frequently too given how fast decay spreads
why are you guys talking as if the decay cannot reach the canyon because it move??
zinc quarry
theres a secret discovery
full jackal
I donāt know honestly
zinc quarry
the collossus blocks the parasites from getting in
split night
theres a secret discovery
give me the SD
full jackal
the collossus blocks the parasites from getting in
How?
zinc quarry
lemme find it
full jackal
How does the canyon moving prevent decay from spreading
hybrid gazelle
Gavel not making pointless discovery challenge
(Impossible because they half ass the entire province)
full jackal
Like Parasites can just burrow into the mountains or smth
hybrid gazelle
just odnt think about it
full jackal
(Impossible because they half ass the entire province)
Yea
split night
we LITERALLY have an SD talking about how Lari already prevented the spread of the Decay to further region of Gavel
why is there another one
hybrid gazelle
like I said
zinc quarry
????????? what its not there
full jackal
yea I mean the Light thing isā¦
full jackal
Well if she could do that why do not it more?
split night
beside, if it want to spread to the canyon
shouldn't it be spreading to the rest of lake Gylia and the surrounding first??
full jackal
āYea why doesnāt it affect Lake Gylia though
hybrid gazelle
because Gavel suck
split night
https://wynncraft.wiki.gg/wiki/The_Great_Barrier
i remember this
it's literally just
zinc quarry
collossus shenanigans ig
hybrid gazelle
it work because gavel say so
split night
parasite dug, get pushed once, parasite ran
full jackal
parasite dug, get pushed once, parasite ran
Like why parasites though
Like the Colossus can sense darkness?
split night
I don't even know how this bug get there without spreading throughout the surrounding of Gylia lake first
zinc quarry
i saw a theory that the collossi were built to protect against other realmic influences
so like light and dark
and the decay is dark-related
so mayeb tahts how but idk
split night
Decay is not dark related
full jackal
i saw a theory that the collossi were built to protect against other realmic inf...
Who even built them then?
split night
it's Absent of light related
full jackal
Decay is not dark related
Isnāt decay spread by the parasite though
split night
the bug is dark related
zinc quarry
Decay is not dark related
its literally caused by teh parasites tho what
full jackal
it's Absent of light related
I donāt remember Wynn having much light
split night
I donāt remember Wynn having much light
Gavel
full jackal
And like SE doesnāt have decay
split night
not Wynn
split night
And like SE doesnāt have decay
SE is dark influencing thel and
is it not clear ,_,
hybrid gazelle
I literalyl would just call decay being absence of light and being withdraw state
becuase that like
easier to explain
and tell distinction
full jackal
Okay yea I really should be actually doing secret discoveries instead of randomly reading half of the secret discovery pages
hybrid gazelle
between whatever happen in olux and how it different from SE
becuase if you were to say decay just dark influence
then entire thing is just
cheaper SE
split night
Okay yea I really should be actually doing secret discoveries instead of randoml...
not worth the trouble, except for the Fruma ones
full jackal
I mean Fruma ones were actually so goated
hybrid gazelle
so like
full jackal
Everywhere else is terrible
hybrid gazelle
I just gonna say decay is absence of Light and not necessery dark influenced
full jackal
Like the Wynn plains ones are unbelievably ugly
hybrid gazelle
if you empty pepsi and fill it with coke
it will be coke
zinc quarry
Everywhere else is terrible
curse of the ten year old game ig lol
or however old wynn is now
split night
š
full jackal
Iām not joking
summer bluff
I..
full jackal
Itās post April
zinc quarry
lol ok ig
split night
okay i'm not gonna talk to that kid again
summer bluff
They're also the right demographic for wynncraft.....
split night
they are very annoying the past few day and i got my explaination
split night
They're also the right demographic for wynncraft.....
kids don't even play this game past lv20-40
xd
early game is so boring that it's like, a filtering system
zinc quarry
not anymore imo
its mid game that kills interest sicne they've revamped early game
but this is hardly the place for talking about this lol
full jackal
but this is hardly the place for talking about this lol
If we actually abided by #rules_and_info n.1 this channel would have like 74% less messages
hybrid gazelle
Tbh I hope they rework dungeon
Mid game update is something I want
But I am not sure if they gojng to have major update surrounding it
shut mist
i dont rly get the dungeon rework reasons
hybrid gazelle
Even tho I feel like mid game would need that work
shut mist
their fine as they are rn
full jackal
Even tho I feel like mid game would need that work
Underworld Crypt kinda sucks though
And the names are just really lame
Like I get decrepit sewers, but why infested pit?
hybrid gazelle
Dungeon is outdated content that need to be update for new tools so future dungeon can be better
It also the fact that
full jackal
Why not something like Arachnidās Throne
hybrid gazelle
Dungeon overall just suck gameplay wise and it could be a lot better
split night
their fine as they are rn
They are very ass
shut mist
their not ?
hybrid gazelle
Some dungeon require you to get reward for fucking
shut mist
i enjoy them
hybrid gazelle
3-4 runs
full jackal
Some dungeon require you to get reward for fucking
You get rewards for fucking?
mossy badge
i enjoy them
Ur in the minority
hybrid gazelle
Forgery beinf biggest offender
Where they expect you
To run 6 runs
For a reward
split night
i enjoy them
The abnomality in the data
hybrid gazelle
This is not even a raid where at least there room variant
full jackal
Itās not really worth it since youāll outlevel it fast
full jackal
And the only reason why Iād do dungeons is for first-time completion XP or Gathering Equipment
full jackal
But I think like the most outdated part of the game is probably the corrupted dungeons
Theorick
hybrid gazelle
And beside gameplay aspect
hybrid gazelle
Most dungeon need more redone and if updated have potential to be narrative driven than they are
split night
Even the worst raid is better than the best dungeon
I don't have a ranking for the worst raid or the best dungeon yet but you'd get the point
mossy badge
Timelost Sanctum is still in its pre-update form
CLS š„
split night
And then there's WTP being perfect in every single aspect
hybrid gazelle
Many dungeons bosses desperate for additional contents to fresh them out and maybe if dungeon get rework, they could have potential for thise kind of thing
Imagine scattered notes in Ragni sewer
whole river
And then there's WTP being perfect in every single aspect
The ballroom is the worst invention ever made
hybrid gazelle
Telling the story about tjose day of corruption war
full jackal
Like dinosaurs still exist in mistwoods
whole river
Why are the mobs there outdamaging anathema
hybrid gazelle
There a lot of potential to be has if dungeon get rework
split night
The ballroom is the worst invention ever made
the what room
whole river
The first room in WTP with the black hole
mossy badge
the what room
Ball
paper magnet
I hated that room so much
full jackal
The ballroom is the worst invention ever made
Is that the room where you have to hit the ceiling with the artefact then shine your divine light onto the enemies
spring kernel
The light room is cool
split night
The first room in WTP with the black hole
i though it was fine
i know i die very quickly so i just keep my distance as long as i could nad kill the big guy
or like
have a good raid team essemble and have a burger
full jackal
The light room is cool
Yea it was, I have not idea what the ballroom is
full jackal
> have a good raid team
*also known as lightbender
whole river
you canāt just control that
whole river
No guild
real knoll
The ballroom is the worst invention ever made
graid corrupted spikes are also right there
whole river
I win more than I donāt and the rewards are worth it, itās still an insufferable room
paper magnet
A lot of people run pfinder on WTP cause itās needed to finish the story of Fruma (kinda)
mossy badge
Yea it was, I have not idea what the ballroom is
The room's official name is "regal ballroom"
split night
so it's literally just ball
whole river
Like I make money on WTP regardless but it doesnāt mean itās not a shit room
mossy badge
Pfinder wtp is not that bad, ppl even bring hp scrolls ā¤ļøāš©¹
hybrid gazelle
Ball room need bit more tweak yeah
split night
what the hell is the ball in that room
paper magnet
The first time I ran WTP it was party finder and we did mostly fine (outside of the ballroom)
whole river
Especially because you can do everything perfect but if three people die itās an auto lose
full jackal
Is there a difference between pfinder queues and regular wtp queues?
hybrid gazelle
what the hell is the ball in that room
Auree, itās ballroom
Itās where people dance
mossy badge
An iq too high
full jackal
what the hell is the ball in that room
Not all ballrooms have bals
split night
Auree, itās ballroom
I hate english sometimes
i literally thought there were actual balls in that room
xd
hybrid gazelle
Canāt really see the queen be the type of people to invite people for party but I just imagine itās meeting with a lot of nobles
split night
Canāt really see the queen be the type of people to invite people for party but ...
I can imagine her dancing
paper magnet
They have enough festivals every year that I can see her using the ballroom for gatherings
hybrid gazelle
That likely yes
split night
She doesn't need a dance partner, i think she'd do fine herself
full jackal
^Certified no balls
split night
xd
hybrid gazelle
That probably the finale event of festival where she came back to citadel
paper magnet
Majin?
Or also where she meets with the nobility of the highlands
All the houses and such
hybrid gazelle
I donāt think she would be dancing with Majin
That probably lik the least person she would dance with LMAO
She probably just look from the balcony
slender copper
She doesn't need a dance partner, i think she'd do fine herself
Who exactly are we talking about?
split night
Who exactly are we talking about?
Her's Majesty
hybrid gazelle
But yeah I feel like dungeon would have a of potential if rework
Also forgery need rework
So might as well do that
slender copper
Her's Majesty
Ah, I see.
narrow kestrel
love a character with a spine ā¤ļø
i hope we get to see her again in some form soon
even if its just flashbacks
split night
find a doc to read
hybrid gazelle
The only thing we gonna see fruma queen in
split night
you don't need to redo this raid 12 times to know all the dialog btw
split night
we wmat ana
hybrid gazelle
Hard to see fruma queen else whwre
narrow kestrel
you don't need to redo this raid 12 times to know all the dialog btw
fym 12 times
each choice has branches
this is more like. 20+
full jackal
i hope we get to see her again in some form soon
Her dialogue implies that should could be reincarnated in a different form, without all the beast of war stuff
And without the memories
narrow kestrel
i dont regret picking the joke choices for my first clear though (the potion one)
split night
i pullling a number out of my ass
just know that it is al t
full jackal
i dont regret picking the joke choices for my first clear though (the potion one...
Why
narrow kestrel
Her dialogue implies that should could be reincarnated in a different form, with...
she could reincarnate but still as a beast of war
just without the consciousness
narrow kestrel
where did the "wastelands next update!!!" even come from
full jackal
But a lot of it is repeated information
mossy badge
where did the "wastelands next update!!!" even come from
They said
Like on fruma site
narrow kestrel
there was no mention of such wastelands in the main questline
full jackal
where did the "wastelands next update!!!" even come from
I mean they said theyāre gonna add it soon
shut mist
where did the "wastelands next update!!!" even come from
the fruma update website
full jackal
there was no mention of such wastelands in the main questline
Penitence district
Dream
narrow kestrel
yeah but do we have a clue on what it is/could be
mossy badge
there was no mention of such wastelands in the main questline
Me when i dont read dialogue
narrow kestrel
Penitence district
what
mossy badge
yeah but do we have a clue on what it is/could be
I mean u can see it ingame rn
full jackal
Sovereign oru is of the wastelands
mossy badge
And the quests tell what its like
narrow kestrel
And the quests tell what its like
oh that explains why
full jackal
On the bridge
narrow kestrel
i havent done quests aside from burning bonds and the missing piece
š
should prob get around to doing those soon
full jackal
Wait so you havenāt done apotheosis
full jackal
i just said i did those 2 and nothing else
Sorry itās like 1:33 am
narrow kestrel
im in wtp ofc i did apoth
full jackal
I can barely read right now
narrow kestrel
im talking about non-main quests
full jackal
im in wtp ofc i did apoth
So what you mean is you havenāt done any side quests other than those two
mossy badge
I did not say side quests
full jackal
Okay right sorry for the misunderstanding
mossy badge
I just said quests, i think its mainly storyline quests
Actually
I guess its mentioned once in off the rails
full jackal
What even counts as storyline anyways
Wynnexcavation isnāt really related to anything else at all
mossy badge
Dark green ones in content book
spring kernel
The storyline
full jackal
Yet itās storyline
spring kernel
because it is a storyline
you have wynnex part 1 2 3 4
realm of light is also a storyline
full jackal
So like any quest that is just one part of a chain quest is considered storyline? Okay
full jackal
realm of light is also a storyline
Yea but like Itās more related to everything else though
narrow kestrel
i like how she never said shit about who him is
narrow kestrel
Aldorei gives context for the corruption war and stuff
ik
full jackal
As well as the truth of the provincial calamities
narrow kestrel
i wa sjust mentioning the other quesrlines
paper magnet
Some side quests are more lore important than some main quests
The terminology has always been kind of vague
full jackal
I mean Iād consider storyline quests and main quests to be different
mossy badge
There are no "main" quests officially only storyline quests
paper magnet
Yeah thatās more accurate
Are there any questlines in the early-mid game? I remember when I was going through Wynn pre 2.0 and thinking it was mostly disjointed until realm of light
full jackal
Iād consider main quests to be: Kingās Recruit, Enzanās Brother, Infested Plants, Mushroom Man, Taking the Tower, Elemental Exercise, Arachnidās Ascent, the Nohno one, Recovering the Past, The Mercenary, Bobās Lost Tomb, RoL, The Elphaba one, Reincarnation, Aldoreiās Secret, AJB&F, The missing piece, Fruma quest line
spring kernel
the earlygame questline exists
full jackal
Idk itās all kinda arbitrary so really storyline quests is probably better
mossy badge
Iād consider main quests to be: Kingās Recruit, Enzanās Brother, Infested Plants...
The bob quests should be storyline smh
Also enzan's brother eh, not sure about it tbh
full jackal
Well yeah but for it to be storyline maybe it should suck less ass first
pearl osprey
hello my friends
i have a question!
So the Corkus Accipientis, this thing is meant to be the adrenophage right?
And this is the Fool Eater?
But what is this meant to be?
And this one? I remember these were apparently gonna make sense with fruma
but I do not really recognize who they're supposed to mimic
narrow kestrel
Iād consider main quests to be: Kingās Recruit, Enzanās Brother, Infested Plants...
this looks so scuffed
when u consider wynn is like a decade old
š
spring kernel
I don't think those are mimicing anything specifically
mossy badge
And this one? I remember these were apparently gonna make sense with fruma
Just from first glance this reminded me of qira
spring kernel
Yeah that doesn't connect to fruma
hybrid gazelle
Random bullshit
pearl osprey
I swear someone on CT said, before fruma release, the final two phases (except blob) didnt make sense because they were based off of things in fruma
hybrid gazelle
Then idk cause I donāt recall anything like it in fruma
spring kernel
I swear someone on CT said, before fruma release, the final two phases (except b...
I doubt anyone said that
because i don't think any of the phases are based on anything
hybrid gazelle
Charon so in need of questline
Ds just
Idk what to do man
Let it be whatever it is I guess
IP just need more lore expansion befause spiders suppose to habe more lore
But they did not make it into the game
pearl osprey
I doubt anyone said that
naww this ius some gaslighting
hybrid gazelle
Akkadicus and her spider just in strange position where
full jackal
I think possible lore could be that spiders used to rule over the woods
hybrid gazelle
It like they in need more of the spot ligjt
full jackal
But then the Frumans came and drove them to Mt.Wynn
And the kidnapping people thing is a scheme to slowly take over the woods again
spring kernel
naww this ius some gaslighting
I mean it wouldn't make sense for it to be based on stuff in fruma
full jackal
And they view the woods as their right, as a sorta holy land
That they need to take back
hybrid gazelle
But at the same time, theu already in the spotlight far longer than they need to be because again theu are the least interesting part and far from focus point of Wynn province
full jackal
Wait they need more and also less of the spotlight?
hybrid gazelle
So I feel like updating the dungeon to contain more lore in relate to them
pearl osprey
I mean it wouldn't make sense for it to be based on stuff in fruma
I KNOW SOMEONE SAID THIS..!!!
IM NOT CRAZY
spring kernel
it also wouldn't make sense for it to be based on fool eater
full jackal
Hashr is so weird
hybrid gazelle
Sand kingdom got more lore in fruma
But overall hashr just
Not interesting
He exist
full jackal
Sand kingdom got more lore in fruma
Wait really?
spring kernel
Hashr isn't all that interesting but he is in the odd situation of being one of the characters who got put in a dungeon and then lived for like 1000 years because of it for some reason
hybrid gazelle
Slykaar is debatable but I think he need some short questline
hybrid gazelle
Hashr isn't all that interesting but he is in the odd situation of being one of ...
Yeah lol
full jackal
In that case Slykaarās dungeon needs to be pushed back
spring kernel
Like he's just an assassin
hybrid gazelle
Gg need overhaul
full jackal
To like Lv.60
hybrid gazelle
I fucking hate gg man
full jackal
Gg need overhaul
Ehh i think gg is fine
Itās very new
Itād be weird to redo something added 2 major updates ago
hybrid gazelle
It still use the lazy ass ocean trope of just putting undead in random shit
Like the pirates crew are undead
Why
full jackal
Wellā¦
spring kernel
redbeard is questionable
full jackal
Red beard could have some more lore though
spring kernel
oh you mean those smaller enemies
full jackal
Also I fucking despise the quest you have to complete to do the dungeon
full jackal
Itās literally called galleonās graveyard
hybrid gazelle
And also feel like redbeard could be more active
He feel like a cool villain to habe if you lean him to other direction
Instead of generic, waiting at the end of the dungeon
He sound like big shit but then you look ocean as a whole
And it like
spring kernel
hybrid gazelle
It almost he does not exist?
narrow kestrel
He sound like big shit but then you look ocean as a whole
the ocean has no role rn
in story no?
hybrid gazelle
āMy takeā
spring kernel
old ass screenshot
hybrid gazelle
I donāt think Lexnt get into redbeard yet
But like even then if he indeed not an undead
Then maybe present it better
narrow kestrel
I donāt think Lexnt get into redbeard yet
i dontt hink they're ever going to
š
formal bridge
Tbf there's not exactly much to get into to begin with lmao
He's a spoopy pirate in the ocean
that's about it
hybrid gazelle
Lexnt has a lot of idea but she does not has time to go through all of them
And god I wish redbeard just
Present better
Ocean has potential
It relatively new front that open for century
Holy shit mr beast
And selchar, the capital of the ocean, is only founded like
Couple of decades ago
pearl osprey
mr dark beast
hybrid gazelle
That mean law and order are establish very late
You coukd habe ocean stuff being about this untamed province
Where pirate run wild and free
pearl osprey
and people who remember what it was like before selchar
hybrid gazelle
So have redbeard just
A guy waiting at fucking dungeon
Is boring
He could be among the first person to explore the ocean or something
Or founder of pirate island
Or fucking
Anything
formal bridge
if redbeard isn't a corrupted then maybe he stole something from mage island and made himself immortal, make him a magic pirate and make mage island be somewhat important
hybrid gazelle
But outside of his quest, he has 0 impact
Mag island and as a whole is stupid cause like
Dawg you aināt special, we got province full of magic
Like
Why are you here
wtf your purpose
full jackal
Holy shit mr beast
What
formal bridge
another spam bot I assume
they always post mr beast twitter screenshots or something as a scam
pearl osprey
if redbeard isn't a corrupted then maybe he stole something from mage island and...
isnt immortality a big thing though, since every province has one fountain of youth
formal bridge
Yeah make the ocean have one with the mages
full jackal
Maybe he got the fountain of youth thing idk
formal bridge
just give the ocean literally anything
full jackal
Maybe thereās a geyser of youth in the ocean
hybrid gazelle
We have little info about these water source
full jackal
Maybe Corkus has one idk
hybrid gazelle
So it best to not throw it around Willy nilly
pearl osprey
Maybe he tried to die but while he buried his treasure he uncovered a subterranean spring that turned out to be the ocean's fountain of youth
and he accidentally became immortal
formal bridge
Literally every island in the ocean is purposeless
At most they have one quest tied to them and that's it
full jackal
Zhight Island ā> Zhight island
narrow kestrel
Literally every island in the ocean is purposeless
after we get wastelands we are getting an udnerwater province trust
spring kernel
Dead island is genuinely a relic
full jackal
Dead Island ā> Haven antiquity
drifting aurora
such a pointless discovery
why is this the discovery you single out as pointless and not. fucking canyon crystals
full jackal
Ice islands ā> Ice islands
drifting aurora
this one actually says something of note
hybrid gazelle
why is this the discovery you single out as pointless and not. fucking canyon cr...
Because we currently talking about it
full jackal
why is this the discovery you single out as pointless and not. fucking canyon cr...
The canyon has crystals?
formal bridge
The Bear Zoo is probably the most insulting island to me because it doesn't even have a side quest on it
narrow kestrel
oh are we talking about contenders for worst SD oat
formal bridge
it's just the host of a two piece item set
pearl osprey
Whats pointless about the great barrier?
hybrid gazelle
This one get me mad because it reinforce the ālari is uselessā mindset
full jackal
If weāre talking about the worst SDās
narrow kestrel
This one get me mad because it reinforce the ālari is uselessā mindset
she was but it isnt her fault
full jackal
Bakāalās destruction 1 & 3
narrow kestrel
mostly orphion not knowing how to communicate
narrow kestrel
i swear all the realm beasts have this in common
hybrid gazelle
So I can just forget about it
full jackal
2 at least has the benefit that it includes Akias which is a cool place
1 & 3 I hate on the basis that it is ugly
hybrid gazelle
But yes canyon crystals are equally if not more useless
It just has the merit of me forgetting about it
formal bridge
Canyon Crystals has to be the most pointless SD for sure
hybrid gazelle
There also light mushroom
formal bridge
You don't even get a secret location or little cutscene
hybrid gazelle
Actually most of gavel discovery are fucking useless
formal bridge
You just do a tiny bit of parkour and get told of what you already saw
hybrid gazelle
Burn the whole thing down
full jackal
Wow
exotic bough
What does canyon crystals say again
Crystals with magical powers are in the canyon
full jackal
Insightful
exotic bough
I forgot if itās cosmic magic
spring kernel
that's crazy
full jackal
Eye-opening
exotic bough
But thatās basically it
formal bridge
What does canyon crystals say again
The origins of the colorful crystals is well known, though the power that they hold and their purpose is a mystery that has driven many to the brink of insanity.
spring kernel
can we kill cosmic magic
formal bridge
that's it
spring kernel
i don't like it
full jackal
can we kill cosmic magic
Cosmic magic is Majinās thing I think
hybrid gazelle
can we kill cosmic magic
If you are talking about Crystal
formal bridge
Cosmic Magic works when it's like this strange and twisting power which drives people mad
hybrid gazelle
Then yes
formal bridge
but so often it's used as just
hybrid gazelle
Cosmic magic lore? No
formal bridge
"here's a weird thing that happened"
hybrid gazelle
But like Crystal gotta go
exotic bough
Majin shows that cosmic magic can still work with modern lore imo
hybrid gazelle
Crystal genuinely one of those thing that exist because wynncraft really want to make something āimportantā
exotic bough
But yeah crystals suck
hybrid gazelle
So they just shit out these fucking mcguffin that only important because the story said so
formal bridge
cosmic magic suffers from the major questline around it being Wynnex which is the worst main questline
full jackal
no one talking about A Deathly Warning??
That one was funny
exotic bough
no one talking about A Deathly Warning??
Bc itās just a āhaha funny sdā
full jackal
We can keep that one
exotic bough
Nothing wrong with those so long as they arenāt overdone
spring kernel
no one talking about A Deathly Warning??
This one actually has some pretty funny implications
not funny, just ridiculous
hybrid gazelle
Deathly warning has that Yeha
It got funny implication
Canyon crystals just fucking useless
And the great barrier has implication that annoy me
Srly what the point of this discovery
formal bridge
It's also just a discworld reference though so it'll probably be changed as well eventually if they remove that
full jackal
And the great barrier has implication that annoy me
I mean though
exotic bough
IMO that should be replaced with smthn on eltom (itās close by iirc)
fervent sun
we talking about cosmic crystals discovery?
full jackal
If lari can protect the light forest
formal bridge
we talking about cosmic crystals discovery?
moreso bad discoveries in general
full jackal
Literally why not do that with Llevigar
Or Gylia Plains
Why would you only reinforce light forest and not other lines, is there a limited amount of area you can protect?
exotic bough
Hereās something that one of the bakal destruction sds should be replaced with
drifting aurora
she does do it with llevigar doesnt she? i thought the barrier extended that far
full jackal
And how does the protection even work anyways
exotic bough
Make an sd for the old fruma civilization in the Wynn province
full jackal
Make an sd for the old fruma civilization in the Wynn province
There needs to be more of that
hybrid gazelle
she does do it with llevigar doesnt she? i thought the barrier extended that far
The thing is that
full jackal
she does do it with llevigar doesnt she? i thought the barrier extended that far
Doesnāt she say that
hybrid gazelle
If parasite can get into cinfras county
full jackal
Decay has advanced
hybrid gazelle
Canāt they just
full jackal
Into Llevigar plains
hybrid gazelle
Walk around to light forest???
full jackal
In another SD
drifting aurora
If parasite can get into cinfras county
ok thats fair
hybrid gazelle
Like that my problem with the as
formal bridge
Yeah it's already in Cinfras but it apparently just... doesn't do much there?
hybrid gazelle
Literally
full jackal
Canāt the parasite just take a vacation jeez
pearl osprey
Make an sd for the old fruma civilization in the Wynn province
erm
hybrid gazelle
The moment they get to cinfras plains, Lariās barrier might as well not exist
pearl osprey
isnt the old fruma civilization literally just current wynn
formal bridge
No
full jackal
isnt the old fruma civilization literally just current wynn
What the fuck
formal bridge
I mean technically but not really?
hybrid gazelle
It such a useless discovery and it just support the ālari is uselessā shit
full jackal
Uhhh itās weird
pearl osprey
they just gradually became modern wynn
drifting aurora
Hereās something that one of the bakal destruction sds should be replaced with
i think bakal deserves 3 discoveries, its just 2 of them are kind of Nothing rn
formal bridge
They're literally a millenia apart
full jackal
Cuz it was like conceptualised halfway
full jackal
they just gradually became modern wynn
No they abandoned their colonies
formal bridge
so having a sign of the old culture would be interesting
drifting aurora
did fruma colonizers get their history removed in wynn?
i think wynn in general lost a LOT of its history during the early years of corruption
exotic bough
i think bakal deserves 3 discoveries, its just 2 of them are kind of Nothing rn
Yeah but watchmen works for one of them imo
hybrid gazelle
i think bakal deserves 3 discoveries, its just 2 of them are kind of Nothing rn
What you mean Lexnt, it give us funny Bakāalās dialogue
formal bridge
Yeah Wynn in general could do with more ruins and history around Bak'al
full jackal
Bakāal was such a cornball in those discoveries though
spring kernel
Scion of war kills farmer
pearl osprey
No they abandoned their colonies
but. humans in wynn came from fruma
exotic bough
What you mean Lexnt, it give us funny Bakāalās dialogue
āThe darkness war must spreadā
full jackal
but. humans in wynn came from fruma
Yea but wynn isnāt a successor
formal bridge
but. humans in wynn came from fruma
Yes but like
drifting aurora
nothing was removed necessarily but its like. records and shit getting lost in the chaos
formal bridge
the ruins of the colonies would be interesting to see
full jackal
In the way America isnāt a successor to Britain or stuff
hybrid gazelle
Scion of war kills farmer
Anathema, please lend me your powerā¦.
This is Ragni farmers we are up against
formal bridge
cause wynn has changed drastically in the literal 1000 years since at minimum
hybrid gazelle
nothing was removed necessarily but its like. records and shit getting lost in t...
Oh man I wonder who is responsible for it
pearl osprey
okay but there wasnt some kind of coup like in fruma