📚lore_discussion

[smoky bridge]

Oh ur lari

Eliminate urself pls

[winged narwhal]

He has never done anything bad. Orphion does what is necessary, for the light.

[tepid blade]

okay and ||and Orphion seeks to end the world||

[winged narwhal]

no? orphion calls the player his pulse

[smoky bridge]

Oh

I barely remember anything from rol dialogue lmao cuz lari talks too much

[haughty oasis]

She is a yapper with no substance

[smoky bridge]

Same with a lot of Leaves in the wind pepper

[tepid blade]

Everyone talks to much then, because it really isn't that bad

[smoky bridge]

Except Sui her yap is 100% understandable and entertaining

[smoky bridge]

Lowkey yes

[tepid blade]

Agree to disagree then?

[smoky bridge]

It’s why I hate the current assassinate Takin (or was it Takan) quest

The almuj rebel general guy

They yap so much

[winged narwhal]

||Orphion seeks to save the world||

[mossy badge]

Read = bad
Go*n = good
I understand

[tepid blade]

Okay that guys yaps aren't actually important to the overall lore or story, but Fruma's and RoL's yapping is (and Fruma's yapping is pretty good written)

[tepid blade]

what?

[smoky bridge]

Being a giant white moose with glowing eyes is no source of political power

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/jobnogoonyes-gif-2295885582329568961

[smoky bridge]

Something Monty python reference

[smoky bridge]

Fruma yapping is mostly fine tho it got boring at times especially in leaves in the wind and steel feather chapters

It got much once u enter mistwoods i feel like

[winged narwhal]

Orphion is above politics

[smoky bridge]

Prob cuz there’s less people who all feel the same and more variety in characters

[tepid blade]

He gone so above politics he has entered a new realm of divine politics

[smoky bridge]

Like all the Y names in steel feathers are the exact same

They even look the same

[winged narwhal]

...they're siblings

[tepid blade]

That's becuase they are all brothers

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[smoky bridge]

Booo boring

[winged narwhal]

and they have different personalities and portraits

[smoky bridge]

I ❤️ majin

[mossy badge]

Why do we have larpers in #📚lore_discussion 🥀

[smoky bridge]

I ❤️ gikyo

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-i-am-not-sure-i-am-uncertain-i-am-unsure-i-dont-know-gif-12922258372648487006

[smoky bridge]

👎 terrorists whose names start with Y

Her majesty 😍😍😍

[mossy badge]

"This account is based in aelumia citadel"

[smoky bridge]

I am from Hyloch and this is my comment

[winged narwhal]

The Queen has killed so many people

[tepid blade]

bro is living has succumbed to the Queen's propaganda

[smoky bridge]

Has she

I mean she also brought modern technology

[winged narwhal]

that was soosu

the little girl she lobotomized

[smoky bridge]

Really she just has to send more people to Wynn as recruits and all of Fruma’s problems will be fixed

Notably the very obvious shortage of undeveloped land

[tepid blade]

Bro has a reaction image for everything, god damn

[pine forum]

This post has been fact checked by real fruman patriots ✅

[winged narwhal]

I mean, have you done like any of the discoveries

[smoky bridge]

I’m not smart to enough to discover secret discoveries

Cuz they are too secret

[winged narwhal]

she is prone to ||essentially using WMDs on her people when they rebel||

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-or-low-iq-call-it-rage-bait-ragebait-low-iq-call-it-gif-11418983585207187263

[smoky bridge]

Reasonable crashout

Doesn’t auburn lack water

[haughty oasis]

I found like an area with a dull blade and a bucket that you gotta push around, i think thats a secret right there

Im too dumb to figure it out tho

[winged narwhal]

Also, ignoring her doctrine of overwhelming force, the state monopoly on magic alone has probably led to untold deaths

[smoky bridge]

||She was doing a favour for its residents really in Apotheosis||

[mossy badge]

Cut a rope above, push the crate to the shower

[tepid blade]

read the knifes description, that is the only hint I will give you, that's how I found it

[haughty oasis]

aye

[winged narwhal]

healing magic, in Wynn, is relatively easily accessible

[smoky bridge]

Majin is actualy the funniest sovereign ever

I hope they bring him back for wastelands

[mossy badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829749238388752436/1488448462705135697/togif.gif

[smoky bridge]

||Surely he doesn’t just literally pop like a balloon from the villain absorbs too much power trope||

[drifting aurora]

wait wtf why are they using these skins lol

[whole river]

Do you think a Fruma train could defeat a grootslang if it is going at full speed

[dense shuttle]

i did figure it out 10min ago

i'm about to turn into champolion

roseta stone styke

[mossy badge]

Hop on the Tahkashtel grind

I'd do that but im too busy on the leaf grind 🔥

[dim sky]

WHAT 😭😭

[mossy badge]

Am i the #1 leaf grinder?

[dim sky]

Quite possibly

[mossy badge]

I skipped straight to liff intermediate

🔥

[eternal arch]

they gotta add a leaderboard

[mossy badge]

Didn't get the rank up msg sadly

[eternal arch]

go to constructive feedback channel and ask for a leaf pile leaderboard 😭🙏

[shut hornet]

not possible

[eternal arch]

why

[mossy badge]

Wonncraft spagetti strikes once again

😋

[shut hornet]

its not even spaghetti its just not possible

[mossy badge]

Bad code

It should be possible

Like there is no physical barrier preventing its existance, only bad code

[eternal arch]

throw claude code at it trust

[mossy badge]

Thats what they alr do 🤯

[shut hornet]

the code is fine we just dont have the specific features needed to add leaderboards

i would add a leaf piles broken leaderboard if i could

[mossy badge]

U can't cuz ur ct

I dont blame u, i blame the real devs

[eternal arch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dunk-lebron-walking-wake-SzSqwJGUfY7aYNV0Q8

[tribal crystal]

what is ancient frumian called?

[tribal crystal]

Wait what... so new leaderboards cant be added or ingame tracking cant be if its not part of the api?

[tribal crystal]

is xima valley considered part of the autumn forest?

[sharp anchor]

I just found the secret discovery An Unexpected Departure and I think there is a plot hole or I'm missing something. In the Relos Secret Library the books suggest ||that the first people from Fruma that arrived in Corkus had their memories erased.|| But in the Unexpected Departure ||we see the first Frumans arriving in Corkus and they don't seem to have any amnesia.||

[eternal spindle]

realm of light 3 has to be an elaborate troll right

[signal bough]

my theory is that ||for 50 years Fruma was sending 'recruits' into exile in Corkus||

[whole river]

“The necessary evil” when you could’ve just killed both cuz the only reason golems are useful is because of the decay which Orphion is trying to outright end. And I imagine the timeline from there to post parasite can’t be longer than a few months at WORST

Also funny the only reason they need golems is cuz Orphion is a bum

[silk ravine]

The golems are sent to Wynn too though, they’d still be making them even if the decay is removed.

[signal bough]

all it really means is 1. more golems for wynn and 2. people going missing is more suspicious

[burnt robin]

as stated by two, orphion CLAIMS benevolence

doesnt mean he actually is

his definition of greater good is whatever benefits his side of the war

which just happened to align with the altruistic goals

[remote panther]

My assumption is orphion is blissfully (and maybe somewhat intentionally) unaware as he didn't seem particularly in direct control of anything in the RoL?

Maybe I missed something I did the quest line ages ago

But it seemed like if he was to be considered a leader of the realm he doesn't have all that much control

[burnt robin]

hes more like the embodiment of the realm if anything

i dont think he was blissfully unaware

he was fully aware of everything since the elves fked up

[remote panther]

Yeah ||the fruma explanation kinda makes me think of whatever entity was spawned in the realm of darkness+orphion aren't really in the driver seat||

[remote panther]

Right I moreso meant about what the realm actually is

And what the war is

[burnt robin]

they definitely are in the driver's seat

[remote panther]

Like he only knows his side of it

[burnt robin]

i think the main reason why they dont just do it themselves

is cause it would literally breka the world

we all saw what happens when ||anathema|| appeared for a split second

[remote panther]

Maybe that's what it is idk it was a bit vague to me

[burnt robin]

a tear in reality legit appeared

just cause she lost control of her form

[remote panther]

Well ||anathema is bofum together (right??? Thats what Two made it sound like) and that probably shouldn't happen. Maybe it's because if one leaves their realm the other will follow and that's why they don't go, cold war kinda deal||

[burnt robin]

||anathema is the result of their clash given form||

also might be that

and remember what they said

before they literally had no limitations

on what they could do

[shut mist]

||anathema might come back as a blank slate too||

[shut mist]

||thats what she said anyways||

[burnt robin]

when a realm beast dies i just assume that their power just goes back to the realm itself

[remote panther]

||can anathema come back as their form we met them in please please please please please||

[burnt robin]

fuh no

[remote panther]

:c

[shut mist]

||she litterally tells us that she might come back one day, but wont remember anything||

[shut mist]

||and if it does happen, to treat it with kindness||

[spring kernel]

yeah it does

but at some point in the future another realm beast may be formed by the realm

[shut mist]

How long would it take though

As far as we know we would die of old age when that happens

[tough axle]

Do we age?

can we age?

[shut mist]

Not really

But

Everything we do

[tough axle]

Are we even really human

[shut mist]

Is in a single year

In game

[tough axle]

Really?

[shut mist]

Yes

[tough axle]

I thought it was like 3 years

[shut mist]

Pretty much

[tough axle]

Damn we can’t catch a break

[remote panther]

Wait like starting off from ragni through fruma is one year?

[shut mist]

Pretty much

[remote panther]

What the heck

[hollow lynx]

I feel as though the player character is atleast a shell

[tough axle]

We toppled an 800 year old dynasty in the span of like a month

[remote panther]

Our character gotta have like ptsd or smthn atp

[signal bough]

I think we're at 13 months now

[shut mist]

Maybe

But idk

I feel like the game would tell us

[remote panther]

Maybe Player is just built different

[tough axle]

I like to imagine that the lore player character is a combination of every wynncraft olayer which is why we refer to ourselves as us and we and our

[shut mist]

If the year changed

[tough axle]

Like. 9000 voices telling this meatblob what to do

[remote panther]

So does that make us like. Bob 2. Because we'd have all 5 classes and all 15 specializations

[tough axle]

lootrun lootrunnnn

prof

[remote panther]

LOOTRUN LOOTRUN GAMBLE RAID RAID LOOTRUN RAID QUEST RAID PROF PROF PROF

[tough axle]

Mf needs an aspirin

[remote panther]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

I wonder if that's why we're so strange to some of the NPCs

[hollow lynx]

The biggest reason I belive we are a shell is that we don't have any memories than can be accesed. Which either means the creature inside us knows of our presence and doesn't want us to be aware of those memories or we are a new creation which would mean we are just a shell for our true self

[remote panther]

They can tell we have something going on just not what it is

[gleaming apex]

Yeah it seems pretty likely we only started existing as we are now very close to the start of the game

[remote panther]

I mean at the end of fruma we get told ||we're a manabender by Two but nobody knows what that means so my thought is that the player comes from some kind of lineage that is known for that, whether it be an educational lineage or familial one||

[hollow lynx]

She says it to sui not us

[gleaming apex]

No that's sui

[remote panther]

Oh does she???

[hollow lynx]

And also

[remote panther]

Lol I assumed it was me ||I picked the dipping down option when saving Rex so I thought thats what it was referring to||

[hollow lynx]

We know what manabenders are

Somewhat

[remote panther]

Yeah it's arcanists /s

[gleaming apex]

Manaweaver

[shut mist]

||anathema did say that she saw something inside of us, a cavern with nothing where there should be ... something and that she only saw it when she was dying||

[hollow lynx]

We are the void trust me

[silk ravine]

That’s ||two talking to Sui, presumably she’s like the Twains||

[hollow lynx]

We weild it as the weapon to fight back both light and dark

[remote panther]

We're TNA???? Pog

[hollow lynx]

After all the dark(parasite) cannot go cotl seemingly because of the collosus and the collosus weilds void I believe

[shut mist]

Well ...

Not really

Apparently

Its because the canyon keeps shifting

[remote panther]

Yeah in lore the canyon physically shifts which is why people get lost so often

[shut mist]

From that one discovery

[remote panther]

Like it's a maze daily

[gleaming apex]

There's lots of options for what we are. I've seen the void, balance, twilight, the beast of the physical plane, an automatic defense system, and who knows what else

[hollow lynx]

Still feel like it could just dig through

[gleaming apex]

The rock pushes them out

[hollow lynx]

What is the twilight?

[gleaming apex]

Theory

[remote panther]

Yeah even if it could move through, the rock moving would change it's pathing

[shut mist]

On top of that

[remote panther]

So it'd be where it was trying to go in terms of the physical location but where it was trying to go has been moved 2 blocks down

[shut mist]

That was not the parasites goal

[hollow lynx]

I like the theory that void can't be used as a weapon against light and dark, but that the void is not able to be traversed by them

[gleaming apex]

Well no wasn't it that the rock pushes them out the way they came

[remote panther]

Could be idr but even if the rock didn't physically remove the parasite it would still end up being Not Where It Wanted

Like the maze shifting would presumably involve some kind of location shifting as well

Maybe not dramatic movement but enough to be offset

[gleaming apex]

I think it's directly shown that it just launches them back out comically

[shut mist]

To me it got stuck inside the rocks

Suffocatting it

[remote panther]

I havent done the quest since I first did it well over a year ago atp so idr how it was shown

Either way. Parasite cant move through canyon

[gleaming apex]

Yeah

Lore reason the mount merchant has an infinite amount of wyverns?

Maybe he found the secret wyvern realm

[shut mist]

Idk

[wintry sky]

maybe the parents dont disappear when he breeds them

[shut mist]

Same with horses

Oh god

I dont wanna think about this anymore

[wintry sky]

i mean the stats always stay the same

so as the player ur kinda performing a blood sacrifice for better stats

[gleaming apex]

That's it! He only sells us the insane parent cannibalizing wyverns that get eaten by their children when they breed

[remote panther]

They're not actually endangered they just hid them all so they can sell them at a premium

They have such an abundance they can just let them go

[wintry sky]

id like to think our magic drains both parents for a stronger child

[remote panther]

I wish it didn't work like that. Let me make my wyvern emporium

[wintry sky]

just buy some wyverns

sell a mythic and drown in wyverns

[remote panther]

See unfortunately my only "worthwhile" mythic to sell is Convergence which is uh. Not good

I am a brokie I need to do more lrs or something

[wintry sky]

i sold a toxoplasmosis last month so im chilling for a while

[remote panther]

24 LE on market for my unid converg not that I could really do much better it's just not a good mythic from what I can tell (I don't play warrior)

[wintry sky]

i have 2 other mythics but i didnt know at the time that indetifying them lowers price so idk what they are worth

[remote panther]

I gotta hit the molten heights hike to get Riptide

What's the lore reason behind riptide meteors now doing water damage. Are they comets now???

[wintry sky]

speaking of lore stuff

whats the lore reason u do a raid in the realm of light

[remote panther]

And if so why aren't they blue

[wintry sky]

like how did u smuggle in 3 other ppl

[remote panther]

https://tenor.com/view/whyareyoublue-walterwhite-breakingbad-blue-jesse-gif-12242572209403578115

[gleaming apex]

You do it yourself canonically, raid is purely for gameplay purposes

[remote panther]

My assumption is it's just a way of making helping orphion replayable? Idk tho

It's not like WTP where it's a continuation of the story, it's repeatability

[wintry sky]

but in the grootslang raid lari asks you to bring friends

[shut mist]

Removing the parasite

And tiping the scales

[gleaming apex]

Yeah all the other raid you do with others canonically except NoL

[wintry sky]

actually only 2 raids make sense to bring friends lorewise

the giant and grootslangs

[remote panther]

WTP makes some sense. You and 3 resistance members

[gleaming apex]

I think you do TNA with others canonically too

[wintry sky]

none know magic tho

[remote panther]

TNA makes some sense but it also makes not sense. Like how did the other 3 get there

[stuck sinew]

They all know magic by that point?

[wintry sky]

but you are the last survivor among the silent expanse party

[remote panther]

Yeah this

They have to get to TNA somehow and the expanse isn't exactly friendly

[wintry sky]

whats the time frame of ur questing in fruma

i refuse to believe they become strong enough to participate in the raid

[burnt robin]

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[remote panther]

Also what happens with the expanse now that it's open??? Like wasn't there concern that expanse denizens would exit through the tunnel

[gleaming apex]

WTP you do with zeph sui and Tasim canonically I think

[stuck sinew]

Power scaling just goes crazy man

[burnt robin]

the raid members in wtp btw

[wintry sky]

same issue with realm of light

[burnt robin]

are canonically

zeph sui and tasim

[remote panther]

Yeah those are the 3

[stuck sinew]

Sui also solos ana

[burnt robin]

and all of them know magic

[remote panther]

And all 3 know magic

[wintry sky]

huh didnt know that

[remote panther]

That's why they went with you to the gate before the quest ends

[wintry sky]

ohhhh

[remote panther]

Bc it's supposed to be ||Two talks to you, you go close the rifts with the 3 of them||

[dim sky]

WTP is only canon if your party is a mage, assassin, and warrior

[remote panther]

Exaaaactly

[stuck sinew]

Rip archer

[remote panther]

You need to be the archer

[stuck sinew]

And shaman ig

[wintry sky]

rip archer indeed

[remote panther]

The other 3 players need to be the other 3

For anyone else the raid is not canon only the archer player

[silk ravine]

There’s like three good warrior mythics and Conv isn’t one of them unfortunately

[remote panther]

Unless they RP as zeph, sui, and tasim respectively

[remote panther]

Yeah :( only one I have ever dropped and I am so busy rn I can't afford the time to grind anything out

[gleaming apex]

Also I feel bad for Sui, but it's kinda funny her character arc is becoming a bloodthirsty killing machine(for her friends)

[remote panther]

I want to see her eat bread again better times :(

[silk ravine]

If you get an Idol you’ll be swimming in money

[wintry sky]

is apocalypse any good?

[remote panther]

||Until she mentioned she was 15 when Syndra first found her 5y ago I thought she was around 15 lul||

[silk ravine]

It’s okay. Not the best, not the worst.

[remote panther]

I need to go for riptide rn I think, I have exactly 0 good builds and my only 120 is mage (well 119 but potato potato)

And riptide is in the molten heights LR

[warped cargo]

i just did a secret discovery and i think there is actually another province that has fallen. specifically there is a pre queen fruman tablet on the path to buried records, this tablet specifically calls the predecessors to the currerent fruman cities colonies.

[stuck sinew]

Riptide looks good I've been stuck with lament

[wintry sky]

i assumed she was like 30s

[warped cargo]

and they would have to be a colony to somewhere

[silk ravine]

Prob best to try and get it from LRs, all new mythics are super pricey now except restitution (it’s literally the worst mythic in the game)

[remote panther]

It seems nutty esp with the new fruma water gear, specifically Drown and Archean, but I've seen people running a Sorcery M.ID on it with Arcanist so idk what they were running

Legit saw someone that had like 2 minutes of spells going after TCC ended and we left the loot room

[stuck sinew]

Yeah wavebreak is pretty wild lol

[remote panther]

Oh yeah cheapest is a few stacks and I'm just shy of 1stx lul

And cheapest was a bad riptide, although unid wasn't too much further ahead in price

[warped cargo]

in the secret discovery there is also an interactable which is specifically called elvish, and fruma is on the opposite side of the sea for elves.

[remote panther]

What's the lore reason behind the Espren TM having a mythic box with a mushroom growing on it

Is it an unid restitution

Has it been left alone that long

[gleaming apex]

It's there to taunt you

[remote panther]

:c

[wintry sky]

so whats in the wastelands

[remote panther]

Waste prob

It's in the name

[wintry sky]

but why would u go there

[shut mist]

Prison

[remote panther]

To collect the waste prob

Idk maybe the player is freaky like that

[burnt robin]

it cant be canon cause sui doesnt use a focus

[dim sky]

ah damn youre right

[remote panther]

Someone needs to bug the game to not need their focus

Specifically an int-specialist mage

And then they can be Sui

[dim sky]

where's the guy that did LI with no weapon

[remote panther]

Do u have big shoes too

[wintry sky]

doing 5 damage in a raid

[wintry sky]

sometimes i feel like thats me

[remote panther]

What're the lore implications behind Big Shoe

https://tenor.com/view/big-shoe-lmfao-big-shoe-lmfao-gif-21655557

[wintry sky]

makes u walk fast

[remote panther]

Ic ic ic

Better incorporate that into my walk speed build

[silk ravine]

I’m going to make a build for restitution just to try and make it work. The idea of a battlemonk-specific weapon that both stops the player from being able to fly AND massively nerfs their walk speed by at least 25% is so dumb idk what in earth they were thinking.

[remote panther]

It does what

Why

[wintry sky]

good idea

[silk ravine]

It stops you from being able to fly using uppercut, and has a huge walk speed penalty.

[remote panther]

Why do both

It should stop flight via uppercut and then like triple your ws LOL

[silk ravine]

It’s also just a much worse Convergence even aside from that.

[remote panther]

Or maybe make it so you fly real good but you are a slug

[silk ravine]

So it’s a worse version of a bad mythic.

[remote panther]

Worst of both worlds what is the point

[silk ravine]

Oh yeah it turns the hurricane effect you have from uppercut into a projectile, except the projectile does less damage and you lose the most effective crowd control attack bmonk has,

I’d unironically rather use a Quinque lmao this weapon is garbage.

[remote panther]

This is as depressing of a mythic as post patch lb is as a spec

[silk ravine]

At least Quinque does stupid melee DPS in the right situations

[wintry sky]

wait is third spell war scream?

[silk ravine]

This is the best sticker ever lmao

[wintry sky]

oh its uppercut

[silk ravine]

First is bash, second charge, third uppercut, fourth scream.

[remote panther]

I saw the graffiti in game and immediately stopped paying attention to the story and took a screenshot

And the sticker is based on that

[dim sky]

same

[silk ravine]

Where is the graffiti?

I need to see Sovereign Sus in game

[remote panther]

Right outside the mansion when you pop out of the pipe in the quest

You basically can't miss it

SOOSU BIG SHOE

[silk ravine]

How did I not see that lol I’m gonna go and have a look tomorrow

[remote panther]

Also I hope flowers is OK :c

I like flowers they're funny

[gleaming apex]

Uhhhh

[remote panther]

DONT

I KNOW WHAT SOOSU SAID

DONT TAKE THIS HOPE FROM ME

[silk ravine]

I wish flowers was the secret pet

[remote panther]

Mini flowers would be a neat pet

Like festival of the heros pet

Would fit alongside some of the other FotH pets

[silk ravine]

And don’t say “she’s too big” as an excuse, the Wings Knight is a pet and is only very slightly smaller than her.

[remote panther]

I wouldn't mind a shrunk down version

Like the avo strider and yeti are cool pets but man are they just too big

[silk ravine]

Yeah slightly smaller, AFAIK the knights are shrunken too.

The yak is big too

[remote panther]

I don't use my avo strider bc of it's size

Unfort I do not have the yeti but I would probably not use it just bc of the size

But I want the yeti :(

[silk ravine]

I only have the common wybel pets and the fox

[remote panther]

Some neat ones I have are the fragment of colossus (small, magic stone eye with rotating stones behind it), the avo strider (Big Bird), and the Wynnter Owl (owl)

Fragment and avo are from FotH and Owl is from Wynnter

Also got the dodo, kiwi, fox, and raccoon

[remote panther]

Or actually make them translucent when you get too close/your camera gets too close

That solves the issue while allowing large pets

Nice qol for other people too

[silk ravine]

Also on the Soosu topic, is she eternally a child or just short?

[remote panther]

Seems ||eternally a child. Her writings in her bedroom describe her ascension and how it seems that her childhood best friend grew up and soosu didn't||

Although ||she could just be short and the writing was moreso her thinking "it's really been that long?"||

[silk ravine]

Honestly I’m glad ||she & Zhiraok aren’t dead.||

[shut mist]

||theres still 1 more soveraign alive beside those 2||

[tepid blade]

||I think there are 2 more that we haven't seen yet that are still alive in the wasteland||

[shut mist]

||ik theres oru in the prison||

||but maybe selium isent dead||

Idk fully though

[tepid blade]

That is what I have heard people dicussing

[shut mist]

Im wondering

[remote panther]

||Does tasim still count? Did he give his blessing up fully?||

[shut mist]

||if we do meet oru ... is he gonna recognize us||

[formal bridge]

||blessings cannot be taken back, otherwise bak'al wouldn't be able to control the corrupted||

[tepid blade]

||No they still have their blessing, I don't think you can give it up willingly||

[tepid blade]

||Maybe, only time will tell on what the devs do with story in the wastelands||

[shut mist]

||even if we get captured and sent into prison, we cant get wiped again||

[remote panther]

||Guess that makes sense with soosu not being able to lose theirs||

[tepid blade]

||I don't think that the wiping happens at the prison within the wastelands, as that is where the steel feather got sent and they came out with there memories||

[shut mist]

Woops

||they were busted out||

There we go

||i think it takes time for each one to get wiped one by one and that they got lucky||

[tepid blade]

||I know, but the prison is described as a work camp if I remember correctly, and they do have special anti-magic cells in the capital made to keep the cursed which we see in the second the last quest||

[pallid glen]

if light is no better than dark

then how come the realm of light mobs were helpful to lari

in rol 5

and she said they were usually peaceful if not for the parasite

[remote panther]

Probably to her

Bc she had a blessing

[pallid glen]

and the light pillar in lutho healed aledar

[hollow lynx]

Because she is a scion

[pallid glen]

ah, fair

[shut mist]

Makes sense

[tepid blade]

She is a Scion, she can control them, just like how Bak'al can control the corrupted

[pallid glen]

can the other sovereigns control the corrupted

[shut mist]

No

[hollow lynx]

No

[tepid blade]

no, different powers

[remote panther]

Assuming Two is not lying, the light would view anything not light as unpure and look to remove them

[hollow lynx]

Both Light and Dark are equally bad

[digital swan]

well known fact

[hollow lynx]

I'm aware

[clever quartz]

I knew it

Orphion is racist

[clever quartz]

Was ||bakal a sovereign||

[azure tangle]

Technically

[tepid blade]

||No, but he was a Scion, just like all the Sovereigns||

[clever quartz]

So lari 2 and bakal are all scions

And sovereigns

[azure tangle]

all of them are

[tepid blade]

yes, each for a seperate god

[clever quartz]

So one god has like 6-7 scions

[shut mist]

...

[clever quartz]

Idk if Greg and parasite are scions

[azure tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1474750670824407080/1475545092008706069/fruma_queen_67.gif

[gloomy idol]

two is a scion ??

[tepid blade]

||but while all sovereigns are scions, not all scions are sovereigns||

[clever quartz]

Do Greg and parasite count as dern scions

[azure tangle]

no

[tepid blade]

no, those are just monsters created by/from realm they are from

[clever quartz]

Where is Greg even from

Is he dernic

[azure tangle]

hes just chillin

[tepid blade]

I didn't know who greg was so I look them up on the wiki, and it redirected me TNA lmao

[azure tangle]

yea thats his name

the nameless anomaly's name

hes just a silly guy

[azure tangle]

what

[tepid blade]

???

[gloomy idol]

nodguj island upscale

[celest falcon]

Realm of Jolly

[brittle prism]

Realm of Craftsmas

Embodies peace

[azure tangle]

holy shit

CHECK THE TUTORIAL

[brittle prism]

The realm of realm??!

[twin perch]

AYO DERN BEAST NAME REVEAL

[brittle prism]

It's Ms Claus

[tepid blade]

what?

[azure tangle]

arg joke

[tepid blade]

oh

[twin perch]

is there some new dialogue after doing wartorn palace?

[tepid blade]

Not currently, kind of, there is a new interaction you can find at ||The Wisper's in Leaves base in the Asburn Forest||

but besides that I don't think so

[twin perch]

im here but i dont see anything?

nvmmm

found the guy

[tepid blade]

I haven't seen the interaction myself yet, but heard its cool

[twin perch]

okay its cool

[rustic nexus]

LEAVES in the WIND

😭

CMON

IT'S NOT THAT HARD

[tepid blade]

I have a memory of a insect

[rustic nexus]

😭

[tepid blade]

I can't remember shit

[young sequoia]

no that colony is wynn

places name in that table is what old name of city in wynn

[wheat island]

hm

the command of nii

[warped cargo]

I'll double check in a little bit, but it at least had some fruman cities. Like hyloch was 100% listed as part of the colonial council.

[young sequoia]

yes that old fruma before queen

so the council exist and I think it is like the gov of old fruma

[warped cargo]

But it's explicitly the colonial council, so what is it a colony of? And also how did the elves get to fruma in the time before the queen?

They are on the opposite side of the world, and we don't see them ever have any water access or boats of any sort

[young sequoia]

wait what elves?

[tepid blade]

I don't think the elves went to Fruma, ever???

[celest falcon]

Elves?

[warped cargo]

Buried records has elvish records

Go check for yourself

[tepid blade]

Do you have a picture for evidence?

[warped cargo]

One sec, lemme get to my desk and go over to that area

[tepid blade]

okay

[warped cargo]

i may be stupid, i misread eleven as elven

my bad

[tepid blade]

oh LMAO, you good

[digital swan]

Asburn forest is honestly a better name

[tepid blade]

is not that not correct either? GOD DAMN IT

[digital swan]

I have a compromise

Asgore Forest

[warm flicker]

aubery forest

[twin perch]

i crave more closure sob

like guys

i just killed a god

where the hell are you

[tepid blade]

Closure for what?

[hasty beacon]

Wasteland

[tepid blade]

what your character is? me too

[exotic yew]

Erm

[twin perch]

that too yes

or what the hell is the source of our power

because colourful strings arent doing it for me

there is something deeper

[tepid blade]

what do you want closure on?

[twin perch]

what happened to the characters

what are they up to now that the queen is gone

[exotic yew]

Our powers are not gonna be revealed rn

Like literally

[tepid blade]

I mean... ||You can go to Auburn Forest in the old Leaves of the Wind base for a new one :)||

[exotic yew]

Like what you guys are talking about is ough to be released soon

Since the story is not concluded

[tepid blade]

I know

[twin perch]

i know about the ||letter beetwen aledar and tasim||

is there anything else

[twin perch]

i knoww

i just tasted peak and want more

[tepid blade]

Not that I know of yet, we will have to wait for the Wasteland update for more closure, or at least more smaller updates

[tepid blade]

so true

[twin perch]

ohh that coming soon at the bottom is the wasteland?

or wha

[exotic yew]

You're absolutely right and I supported his transition

[tepid blade]

yeah, it hasn't been added yet, but it will be added eventually, likely with story expansions ||and at least one or two new Sovereigns we know of but haven't meet before||

[twin perch]

anathema had some really goofy attacks, like i know she's the embodient of war or smth but like, a random ass nuke spawning is hilarious

war devil ahh

as far as i know she's gonna turn me into a weapon

[tepid blade]

She attempted to in the story, but you said fuck that I'm going do my own thing

just as any righteous protagonist should when met with a "ends justify the means" character

in my opinion

[twin perch]

i swear our character is just some time lord (that's why we can rewind quests when they go not according to plan), and that's why we're such an unpredictable variable

it's definitely not just for gameplay 😃 👍

[uneven basin]

There's no more rais epilogue besides tasim yet right ?

[twin perch]

apparently

[uneven basin]

Damn

[tepid blade]

I mean, there is a whole quest about death telling us that he is just letting us be revived without our memories, becuase we have someone looking out for us, what that means

[twin perch]

fair

forgot about it lmao

that's the source of our power!

death itself :D

[tepid blade]

maybe, anything could be possible seeing how little information we have to go off of

[warped cargo]

other than the dogun do any of the sapient species have origin myths? i know they have locations them come from, but i mean like how they actually came to be as a race.

[tepid blade]

I'm looking at the wiki, and apparently the Gerts are mutated villagers spawned from a meteor in Lake Gylia

[gloomy idol]

Yeah you can see that from that one boulder secret discovery nearby

[patent narwhal]

Orcs kinda have one I think they talk about some guy with a shovel that splits himself

[twin perch]

if dark and light exist as like twin entities, could it technically mean that there is a being of peace to act as a counterpart to anathema?

[tepid blade]

Good question, but I don't think so because the realm of war was created because the light and the dark are at war, a physical manifestation of their hatred for each other

So their is unlikely to be a peace counterpart as soon as the two sides knew about each other, they where at war, leaving no place for a realm of peace to be created like the realm of war was

[twin perch]

ah

that makes sense

but it would be cool if it existed but we just didnt know that

(also that would be another possibility for the players power [yes im still on that])

[tepid blade]

true, or something like a balance in-between the them, which is one of my theories is what our player has inside of them, a force of balance between the light and the dark

or it could also be life, another one of my theories

[twin perch]

i could imagine going from this idea that like the finale of the story would have the player eradicting both orphion and the dern beast (which name i have already forgotten) as its the only way to end the war of the realms

im just creating head canons atp

(or an AU lol)

[twin perch]

ooo

[tepid blade]

I also think that is how its going to end too, with our player defeating both at the same time or in certain time span, or somehow find a way to make the balance between the two sides enternal

[twin perch]

imagine the beasts merging somehow

into like a primordial being

that we need to defeat

[burnt robin]

the beasts cannot die per se

they are just forms

[tepid blade]

Well, Anathema kind of died, sort of

[burnt robin]

they will exist beyond their bodies given form because that is how they were originally

[twin perch]

well in that case

somehow eradicating the concepts entirely lol

just to hell with light or dark

[tepid blade]

We also could just close off their connection to our reality all together

[twin perch]

or sealing them away idk

[twin perch]

or that

that's more plausible

[tepid blade]

let them continue there war else were while our world lives in peace

[burnt robin]

probably not plausible lol

probably something along the latter

sealing them away

[twin perch]

yeee im just grasping at any ideas flowing into my head right now

[twin perch]

yee

what implications would that have on our world

sealing light and dark

like what would happen then

[gleaming apex]

It should be fine I think

[tepid blade]

not much outside of them losing their influence over our world entirely

[twin perch]

would there be any negatives?

like what about elves :p

[burnt robin]

the regions warped by their influence would begin to shift back to how they were

[twin perch]

basically losing their god

[burnt robin]

they would cri

[gleaming apex]

That's how it was before the portals reopened 1000 years ago

[burnt robin]

hood

[twin perch]

eh

they can rot for all i care

[burnt robin]

good btw

[twin perch]

causing portals to open

[burnt robin]

they caused this shitshow

[tepid blade]

well, they are also are probably being manipulated by Orphion to do its bidding

[twin perch]

hey guys lets cut down this funky tree

what could possibly go wrong

[tepid blade]

he is a manipulator

[burnt robin]

really thought that orphion was encouraging them 😭

[gleaming apex]

Well now it looks like Orphion wanted them to do that

Or something

[tepid blade]

For all we know, he could have, it is possible

[burnt robin]

I think orphion thinks he is genuinely right

but his definition of right

[twin perch]

i mean of course he does

[tepid blade]

oh he does, absolutely

[burnt robin]

is whatever tips the scales in his favor

[twin perch]

yea

the same goes for the dern beast

what was its name please someone remind me 😭

[burnt robin]

saphanis

[twin perch]

it was cool and i forgor

[twin perch]

ah

[burnt robin]

I think she fits the more unapologetically evil type

not even TRYING to hide it

[twin perch]

so saphanis could care less what her actions cause for others

[burnt robin]

both of them disregard what happens to the ppl in the world

it's just that one tries to act like they care

[gleaming apex]

I think Orphion could end up a well meaning bad guy

[twin perch]

like orphion chose us for his bidding over Lari cause we could kill better right? (and could encourage her too)

[tepid blade]

This is one of my arguments against our character having the powers of a lost realm beast inside of us, as it all the realm beast we have seen all seek some sort of dominion over the world and/or its people, meaning its probably nature for them to conquer

[twin perch]

i mean

we did have our memory stripped hard

so maybe our dominion instinct got lost in the way

[tepid blade]

I think that he used us to get rid of Lari, as she wasn't doing his bidding anymore, making her a loose end, but he still need her to repair the realm of light which is why he didn't make us do it ourselves

[sand jasper]

We beat Orphion once we can do it again

[twin perch]

a weakened version tho

[gleaming apex]

I'm thinking what if Orphion's goal is gonna be like if he wins, he'll put everyone's souls in pillars like the lutho one so they'll be "happy". And he thinks he's the good guy then. Idea that just popped into my head

[sand jasper]

(Yes I know diff circumstances but ssshhhhh we’re John Wynncraft)

[twin perch]

like heavy weakened

[twin perch]

but that's true

we have the determination of gamers on our side

[burnt robin]

he was REALLY weak

as was anathema

[twin perch]

okay but like

she was weak

[sand jasper]

Who will win: two primordial realm creating beasts vs 4 pfinder gamers

[burnt robin]

we would die in an instant had they been at their full strength

[twin perch]

because WE weakened her

[burnt robin]

false

[twin perch]

4 pfinder gamers.

[gleaming apex]

And that's why there's pillars everywhere in the light wins cutscene

[tepid blade]

I actually created a similar theory, put people in a pillar and those who refuse to be put into one will just be thrown away

[burnt robin]

she gave her power to sovereigns

well parts of it

[twin perch]

oh

[tepid blade]

like killed

[twin perch]

ohhh

[burnt robin]

that's the main reason

two legit says so

[sand jasper]

What do u think may be inside us if not realm beast which I also probably think aint the case

[warped cargo]

i think the closest to that is the void itself. because as long as light and dern exist they will be in conflict, so the opposite of their conflict and hatred for eachother is nonexistence rather than peace.

[twin perch]

but two speaks in a cryptic language

and im dum dum

:c

[twin perch]

hmm

i mean

[tepid blade]

Some other power which we don't know about, or some kind of balance between the light and the dark, or the power of life itself

[twin perch]

when we saw our power

[lusty glacier]

yea i thought our insides were specificically emptier than usual rather than having a different beast

[burnt robin]

she just uses a lot of allusions and alternative/metaphoric names

[twin perch]

it was basically hollow at first

[sand jasper]

It’s just the pfinder fr

[twin perch]

void reference?

[burnt robin]

... you mean

were hollow?

we have no mind to think?

[twin perch]

hollow.... knight?

lol

[burnt robin]

NO WILL TO BREAK???

[tepid blade]

Like some kind of hollow knight...?

[twin perch]

NO MOUTH TO SCREAM

[gleaming apex]

An idea I had was what if we're like a defense system for the world, like a guardian who was just spawned in

[sand jasper]

Wait… we’re knights… say that again

[twin perch]

wrong universe i think

[lusty glacier]

possibly? like our unusualness is commented upon, but i'm not sure when that would have manifested

since we were sent to wynn so idk if we were irregular by then

[twin perch]

maybe the moment we were brainwashed?

[gleaming apex]

The thing is that it's a real possibility we're not from Fruma at all

[twin perch]

made a "blank slate"

we were just made too blank

[sand jasper]

I lowkey think we ain’t from fruma

[twin perch]

we just spawned in

spawned in the cart

[gleaming apex]

There's a good chance we came into being very close to the start of the game

[twin perch]

aledar and tasim were sleeping so they didnt notice us

[sand jasper]

I’d believe it ngl it’s not like the driver gives a shit

[warped cargo]

dont we literally see our own memories of us living in roughworks?

[lusty glacier]

i also wonder when we changed from "regular fruman wynn soldier" to "this guy got some hands" in terms of level/quest

[tepid blade]

Well, that probably isn't true as even the Queen of Fruma says we are from the region

[slim belfry]

no that's caid

[sand jasper]

I don’t believe those are our memories

[twin perch]

im just thinking

[sand jasper]

We specifically can’t access our memories

[twin perch]

wouldnt atleast someone recognize us?

[gleaming apex]

The thing is that we apparently have no memories before the start of the game, not even hidden ones

[lusty glacier]

tbf, we havent exactly been public

[sand jasper]

Tbf, all recruits who are sent to Wynn are at least in theory from the region but the Queen isn’t supervising the whole process

[warped cargo]

they can remove the memories of loved ones. they do so in that one quest where you help out syndra's gilf gf

[tepid blade]

I personally think that in my head canon that we where a nobody, a person with few to no connections in fruma, a loner criminal who got caught one to many times, and we became a somebody out of Fruma

[twin perch]

oh righttt

[lusty glacier]

is war and corruption the same thing or am i confused

[twin perch]

god im forgetting way too much

[slim belfry]

I think where the player was before the caravan is purely up to interpretation but I think player has a concrete origin though

[brittle prism]

||is every human in corkus inbred?||

[twin perch]

basically?

[twin perch]

depends how much people emigrated

[tepid blade]

yes, the corruption is from the realm of war, a symptom of sorts of it leaking into our reality

[sand jasper]

I mean, depends on if there is an emigrating/immigrating population and if there were people there to begin with

[tepid blade]

true

[lusty glacier]

and so i guess there are four realms rn? light. dark, war and overworld?

[gleaming apex]

Another thing is that through the entire storyline, we don't recognize anything, which is suspicious. You'd think there'd be something at all

[sand jasper]

But if we go with solely the amount of people in the discovery, then yes they absolutely are inbred

[brittle prism]

there's also realm of craftsmas

[tepid blade]

three realms of influence, and the overworld

[tepid blade]

we had our memories completely erased

or they are locked so deep down that not even we can reach them

[gleaming apex]

But they weren't erased in the same way as every other person from Fruma

[lusty glacier]

also to ask a similar question, around which quest did we start becoming unusual?

[twin perch]

i would say when we started realm of light maybe?

[tepid blade]

it could be a symptom of our unique powers

[slim belfry]

we have the fruma ARG to go off of that we at the same time did and did not

[tepid blade]

Either RoL or Fruma

[sand jasper]

I mean I don’t think we “started” becoming unusual but maybe the signs started showing around recover the past?

[brittle prism]

||just looked back on the discovery, it says they're the first humans||

[gleaming apex]

I mean the very first hint about us being different is recover the past

[warped cargo]

it was definitely gradual. i think around ice borrows is when we went from regular wynn soldier to a more elite wynn soldier, and the start of realm of light is when we became actually pretty special, and getting into silent expanse and slaying the eye is when we became one of a kind top dogs

[tepid blade]

Or Recover the past is a good point

[sand jasper]

Oh nah then they cooked 💀

[twin perch]

i mean

[warped cargo]

when was corkus settled again?

[brittle prism]

||Doesn't this mean there are more humans that came later? Otherwise why would it specify it saying first||

[tepid blade]

well they could have sent out scouts to Wynn to bring people over

[gleaming apex]

I think a CT just said to pretend there were a lot more people in the balloon then was shown

[twin perch]

there is a possiblity of different people coming to the island after the first settlers

[slim belfry]

^

[tepid blade]

fair enough lol

[slim belfry]

remember corkus was settled MUCH later than wynn

[sand jasper]

Yeha probably but there oughta be a portion of the population or at least early population which were at minimum slightly inbred

[slim belfry]

so there were a lot of humans outside of fruma already

[lusty glacier]

hasnt selium visited wynn before?

[slim belfry]

yes

[twin perch]

does the player (i think it was called this) motif play in any fruma song?

[sand jasper]

Wait we have a motif?

[slim belfry]

hero motif

[tepid blade]

We have a motif?

[twin perch]

yea hero

[sand jasper]

Dayum I need to pay more attention to the music

[twin perch]

the one that plays in both play the saviour and genesis of the end

and some lesser songs

[exotic bough]

||anathema boss theme||

[slim belfry]

hero motif is very interesting for player lore did nobody here realize lol

[exotic bough]

forgot if any other songs have it

[sand jasper]

Enlighten us

[twin perch]

but more prominently in the ones when we're fighting very important battles

[warped cargo]

ya, i was just wondering if it was before or after soosu became a sovereign, it almost certainly had to have been after her birth (though her uncle also knew engineering so its possible the industrial revolution was already started before she was born, she just ramped it up a bunch)

[twin perch]

so battles against the eye and parasite are very important lore wise

and the hero motif plays there

[twin perch]

what's it called?

[brittle prism]

hero motif should play in fierce foe

[tepid blade]

I think after, because they brought some of their knowledge with them to Corkus

[sand jasper]

Dang so Corkus is very recent

[twin perch]

i think its before personally

[sand jasper]

Cuz wasn’t Soosu sovereign for like ~120 years or am I dumb

[slim belfry]

outside the player
they're specifically in every realm beast related entity theme
for the player
anything related to the player's "close to home experience" (class selection, emerald trail) or related to the mind (panic zealot)

[twin perch]

because she invented electricity, and the corkus humans had to invent electromagic

but idk

[sand jasper]

Ooooo wait that’s cool af

[tepid blade]

okay maybe not, because it says they escaped in 650 AP

which would be before Soosu

[sand jasper]

Yeah

Given we know exactly when she became sovereign in the one of the discoveries

[tepid blade]

which makes sense as Electromagic and Fruma's electricity are different, just similar

[sand jasper]

AC vs DC ass development

[tepid blade]

Okay can anyone who knows what the motif sounds like, can you make a sound bite of it and share it?

[twin perch]

https://youtu.be/VSmw--96t8A?list=RDVSmw--96t8A&t=146

it's timed

you'll get it exactly

that's the hero motif

(best part of the song too)

[tepid blade]

is it the one between 2:02 and 2:30? somewhere around that?

[sand jasper]

Man I got a raid shadow legends ad I don’t think that’s part of Wynncraft lore

[twin perch]

just play the video

it's exactly at that point

(it should be atleast?)

[twin perch]

but yeah

that

it's also in the festival of heroes deltas song

[tepid blade]

also I want to point this comment on the video, poor bro doesn't know the truth

[slim belfry]

also here
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YK_IlGwqsJU&t=93s&pp=2AFdkAIB&t=93

[sand jasper]

Tbf that was from a year ago or smth none of us knew the truth

[tepid blade]

no, it was from two days ago

[slim belfry]

LOL

[tepid blade]

i only cropped it out so not to show the person's name

[sand jasper]

Oh nvm bro doesn’t know 💀

[warped cargo]

btw, is majin's blessing the same type of magic as the crystals? they are both called cosmic magic.

[twin perch]

zamn this sounds so good

what's anathema's theme called?

[slim belfry]

yes

it's exactly the same magic

[tepid blade]

it does, I don't think I really paid attention to the music until Fruma, mostly because I was either focused on something else and Fruma's tracks are fucking bangers

[sand jasper]

Oh is Zhiraok’s amulet part of his blessing? Or is it a completely separate thing, cuz if it’s separate wtf is it and where did he get it

[twin perch]

the new updated tracks are also bangers

like the drop in detlas theme is insane to listen to

[slim belfry]

the charm is enhanced by the blessing

[twin perch]

also elkurn theme

[tepid blade]

no, I think its a family magic heirloom kind of thing I believe

[quartz mist]

yeah thats festival dialogue regarding Auray and the origins of orcs, ogres, trolls, and goblins, though the guy who tells the story declares it to only be a myth

[burnt robin]

they have character themes now

🥹

[slim belfry]

oh yeah there are character themes now

[twin perch]

i think i found it

[burnt robin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly7EbQxGElc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2moVBudSmI

[tepid blade]

Also I found this track in my research for the Hero's motif, its fucking wild https://youtu.be/p0r_Ni4V94U?si=vd5KIIgo2kXFwHeg

[twin perch]

(maybe coocon?)

[sand jasper]

Ah hence ||ability to turn back time|| I guess? Cuz man it’s convenient that he had it and the other sovereigns had fuck all

Not fuck all but Y’know not that ability

[exotic bough]

its not officially uploaded yet but its called ||The Butterfly Effect||

[twin perch]

ooh thank you

i was browsing the jukebox

[twin perch]

its so good

[slim belfry]

I remember hearing that one point and was like "wtf aldwell?"

[twin perch]

i listened to it casually some time ago

[sand jasper]

Dang is that Zeph in the back right cuz he’s aura farming harder than he did the entire questline

[burnt robin]

yep xd

its syndra foreground with mora

sui is just there in the middle, zeph and rex and in the back

its representative of their plot relevancy

[sand jasper]

LMAO

[tepid blade]

I mean Zeph does has some relevancy, but he does drop off in the later half after he and Rex get captured

[sand jasper]

Zeph bro no offense love you but you don’t got that much aura

[twin perch]

sui character development is insane

[quartz mist]

he directly mentions it's an old Nasin charm at one point

[tepid blade]

favorite character in the expansion, alongside Tasim

[burnt robin]

sui the realm beast of anxiety

[twin perch]

yes

[burnt robin]

turns into a psychopath

[snow kiln]

People who run the soundtracks channel needa seriously release raid ost and the missing piece ost asap

I'm tweaking like a meth head rn

[tepid blade]

Depressed and angry grieving, not a psychopath

[burnt robin]

ppl have released them rn

[sand jasper]

Oop I musta not paid attention then :/

[snow kiln]

I refuse to listen to anything that isn't from the main channel

[twin perch]

okay im hearing the hero motif in anathemas theme

[tepid blade]

which I mean she did loose her brother

[twin perch]

it slaps

[sand jasper]

What does that make Rex the realm beast of Star Wars protagonists?

[burnt robin]

tbh sui clears everyone else in terms of character development

[burnt robin]

no

racism

[sand jasper]

💀

[tepid blade]

huh

[slim belfry]

@ soneone. can you tell tex to finish fruma album

[tepid blade]

okay, where does Genesis of the End play again? in game?

[slim belfry]

EO dungeon boss

[sand jasper]

Ya I honestly really love that like it’s a very realistic reaction imo. Not a healthy coping method but some many people turn to in grief

[twin perch]

at one point i thought that Rex's brother might be Aledar

[quartz mist]

the eye's boss fight

[burnt robin]

i mean

[twin perch]

And i was really scared by that thought, because that would be another person broken by me

[burnt robin]

she quite literally

is racist 💀

[twin perch]

i mean

the people know basically nothing of wynn

[quartz mist]

she explains herself and gets over it doesnt she

[burnt robin]

(/j)

[sand jasper]

Tbf she’s mostly mad cuz her brother got banished to the gulag Wynn

[twin perch]

do we know anything who her brother might be?

[neat oriole]

she hates wynncrafters

caid

[slim belfry]

yeah

[neat oriole]

sailor caid

the caid guy

[quartz mist]

caid is almost identical to her

[twin perch]

oh

[tepid blade]

yes, Caid, they are just a gender swapped version of each other if you look at them

[sand jasper]

Wait. So Rex is a skyblock player????

[neat oriole]

yeah

[slim belfry]

it's so awesome

[sand jasper]

Lowkey side by side much more noticeable

[twin perch]

okay that's very fair

[lusty glacier]

my friend thought rex was a boy until the literal last quest

[twin perch]

how

better question

how did the friend realize she was a girl

[lusty glacier]

i think he saw her referred as "her" im not sure

but its a general trend with him

[twin perch]

i see

[sand jasper]

She’s referred to as her in like the first quest u meet her in tho

[lusty glacier]

he very commonly characters are opposite gender like commonly i dont evne know why

[lusty glacier]

he just skips most dialogue

[twin perch]

in terms of characters Rurie also grew on me over the course of the story

[sand jasper]

Man atp play skyblock

Bro rurie is so funny

[tepid blade]

I mean without portraits previously in understand able, but she has one (I have had to look up character genders previously in earlier quests, like Maxie's husband)

[twin perch]

literally the fun part of wynn

(the story i mean)

[sand jasper]

Honestly all 3 of the Canopy generals are hilarious in their own way

[winged narwhal]

I maintain my headcanon that Jenprest just transitioned after she left Wynn and forgot her sister

[lusty glacier]

he just asks me all story stuff and i mean i do follow it in depth so i can answer

[tepid blade]

The story is really good in Fruma, you would be doing a disservice to yourself to skip it

[twin perch]

im not even talking just about fruma

[lusty glacier]

he hasnt even done most quests

[twin perch]

most of the sidequests are fun

[twin perch]

...

[lusty glacier]

we couldnt do tcc since he didnt have the quest, or the prereq of that quest

[twin perch]

blasphemy

[winged narwhal]

I worry that me taking a break in the middle of a missing piece to take Elise on a tour of Wynn and Gavel may detract from the quests emotional impact

[twin perch]

LOL

[sand jasper]

Tell bro to replay the whole game but actually read the dialogue oml

[lusty glacier]

hes much more interested in making builds, i dont think he really cares about lore in general

but yea this is not really related to so i'll drop the topic

[sand jasper]

I love being able to use spells and shit too

Like just literally flying with an old woman on your back

[twin perch]

i know nothing about build making

[tepid blade]

Me just teleporting her back home while is dying on my shoulders

[twin perch]

like im just clueless and rely on other ppl builds

[sand jasper]

Y’know what valid I guess

To each their own

[winged narwhal]

She was even letting you use tp scrolls yesterday although I couldn’t get it to work today

[twin perch]

i had one build carry me through all of fruma

[twin perch]

there is still different fast travel

[tepid blade]

I am to poor to create a good pre-made build, I just use what ever I can find that is close to my current level

[winged narwhal]

Other fast travel doesn’t work

[twin perch]

she can rest near a lava pool in the molten heights

[tepid blade]

My build is fuck around and find out

[twin perch]

teleporting across the ocean does

[sand jasper]

Imagine tho if u could take her thru other quests like take her to ||meet Syndra in the Steel Feather’s base||

[winged narwhal]

Seaskipper and travel scrolls didn’t work for me today

[twin perch]

i grinded the hell out of the outer void and got enough emeralds for a monster

[twin perch]

oop

[winged narwhal]

Yesterday she vanished when I checked TCC rewards

[tepid blade]

How long did that take?

[twin perch]

i dont really remember now

[tepid blade]

okay

[twin perch]

a couple of chill nights

[sand jasper]

Man atp do loot runs

[twin perch]

with a white girl music playlist in the back

[tepid blade]

makes sense

[winged narwhal]

She also disappeared on me during the great bridge boss cutscene (I haven’t been to Troms since before 2.1)

[twin perch]

why do you think i wanted emeralds for a better build for

[tepid blade]

super chill white girl music

[sand jasper]

True true

[winged narwhal]

But I got this photo last night when I could use travel scrolls

[sand jasper]

Lmao

[tepid blade]

is that the EO?

[twin perch]

i really enjoyed outer void overall

very chill

[winged narwhal]

I’m taking her on a tour of Wynn now, I’ll show her Troms and Dernel and then back into the SE tonight

[sand jasper]

“Yo this ain’t my home”
~ Elsie probably

[snow kiln]

Bruh there's still no upload of the missing piece ost smh

[twin perch]

let the old woman rest 😭

[snow kiln]

Fight eo with her on ur vack

[winged narwhal]

I already did Ragni thru to th Great Bridge earlier today

Tomorrow I’ll be doing Gavel

[tepid blade]

oh my gosh

[winged narwhal]

The dungeon tp loses her unfortunately

[snow kiln]

Ahh that's a shame

[twin perch]

"WHAT THE HELL IS THAT" ~ elise looking at an eyeball thrice her size

[sand jasper]

Aw dang imagine doing like TNA NOL or WTP with her