📚lore_discussion

[signal bough]

fuck do they have the head shape

[dim sky]

Hmm yeah I see a point there

[signal bough]

no they have weirdly curved heads

[dim sky]

oh I see that

well I mean Fruma questline did kinda solidify that Light and Dark are really just two sides of the same coin, they’re both the enemy in the end, so why not have some passive things in Dern like in RoL

[signal bough]

I say 'can the content team make it work' cause I think you could

Dernite: 'sigh another day at the orphan mangling factory...'

[dim sky]

LMAO ok well

[signal bough]

and 'hey I really hate the boss here, he slipped me some deathroot and I was paralyzed for thirty years, want to help me blow him up?'

[dim sky]

ok that would be kinda hilarious ngl

[signal bough]

yeah exactly

[dim sky]

But again to kinda fit the theme of “light and dark are the same but opposite” they’d kinda have to rework RoL itself

[signal bough]

well the light is waning when we encounter it

Lari says the realm is a lot smaller

so the realm of dern should be a lot bigger

and we know of a point in which people were taken to Dern but never know of anyone who went to the RoL(outside of a couple elves)

it'd be

'these guys aren't dernic they're just heavily corrupted'

which is why they don't attack you on sight

[frigid elm]

||Thanks! I'm assuming the trinket to change the skybox is the Frightful Fragment listed on the wiki?||

[snow kiln]

Yup

[dense shuttle]

is there no ultimate discovery (yet) ? I was really eager to get the fruman transcript, there is so much to translate

[digital swan]

the second one isn't from dern

[signal bough]

what is she 😭

[digital swan]

she's Japanese

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_(film)

[signal bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/837559122193940500/1332993539159621652/caption.gif

[digital swan]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-hat-gif-24889203

[quartz mist]

There's a way to get it currently that I don't think is gonna change when the ultimate is added actually

[whole nebula]

does the strong survive have multiple endings because the way it ended for me felt really strange and abrupt

[slim belfry]

did you act nice to arnol

[molten escarp]

am I of the assumption that the super awesome ending requires me to be standoffish and mean to an otherwise friendly character............

[ashen relic]

At this point I think we've fought like half our friends list anyways

[signal bough]

no seaskipper duel...

[uneven basin]

It's for our own good

[hybrid gazelle]

You get it through doing house divided secrect discovery

[pallid glen]

so if you tell him to

diy

does he actually do it

at the dam

[hybrid gazelle]

No

[restive yacht]

soooo the rune door is still closed yes?

cause people alr tried bringing 64 of each runes to the door right

yk i don't think they would let us know if they did

[mossy badge]

U mean after today's update?

[restive yacht]

yea

or any

[mossy badge]

Tbh im not even sure if runes will be (are) enough to open it

It MUST be connected to the mythic shrines ‼️

[restive yacht]

bringing all 5 runes gives you a different message

[mossy badge]

Well ye

[restive yacht]

uh u mean there's something else we need

maybe a ke

y

doesn't make sense to have a keyhole there if runes were the only thing needed to open it

[mossy badge]

We must team up with powderman to find the ancient shrine of nifilis in the wastelands

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-ohio-respect-foxy-gif-17451501218491172722

[silk ravine]

I heard someone say they were planning to rework that quest line, is that true?

Honestly I kind of liked them using Endermen as the ancients, as much as I do like the Olm now. It always seemed so cool that they found ways to implement vanilla MC mobs in unique ways like this,

[uneven basin]

It's cool but I believe they're actively going away from using actual Minecraft mobs and models to be more of an MMO that runs on Minecraft as an engine than a Minecraft MMO

See the fact that all farm animals use custom models

Or the mobs in SE that used to be strays

[proud ginkgo]

guys didnt rex die in the 1000 meters under quest? is she immortal?

[mossy badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1417197572891611136/1442671923824824402/ad48ff.gif

Surely that 1 ct didn't forget to rename that npc

[uneven basin]

Wynncraft can have two rexes

As a treat

[hybrid gazelle]

I feel like wynncraft allow to have a character with same name consider the two character habe nothing in relations with and literally like

Exist far apart from each other

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah I don’t think they ever will use regular mobs evee again aside from saving time lol

[silk ravine]

Interesting

Not sure how I feel about that tbh. It would kind of break the Gavel lore with golems and villagers completely.

As well as zombies & skeletons all throughout Wynn. Some skeletons use a custom model now but still

[slim belfry]

there's a teeny chance about something related

[cinder cedar]

OMG GUYS, I can speak to Kaio and get his PRE RAID dialoque

My main account is currently pre raid and I just got to Hyloch, I went to check ||Aledar's Grave|| just to double check and I found Kaio in there

[proud ginkgo]

i dont think she'll be in fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

This assuming villager stay and won’t get remake ofc

[uneven basin]

Golems are public domain enough but could be renamed and villagers could be replaced with an original wynncraft species™ with little changes. Zombies and skeletons have started using custom models and I assume the plan is for all zombie and skeleton mobs to use custom models in the future

[silk ravine]

What do you mean by that specifically?

[slim belfry]

by this

[hybrid gazelle]

Tbh even then the golems we have rn have their design wayyy too attatch to Minecraft cause well

A distinct feature

That surely is not added fkr

Malicious purpose by certain someone

I fucking hate mobile auto correct man

Whatever

[slim belfry]

disable it

[uneven basin]

Wait what distinct feature and Wich certain someone I'm lost 😭

[mossy badge]

I could only understand their sentence with villagers instead of golems

[hybrid gazelle]

Golems still relate to villager so criticism toward to villager still apply to golems

Because of their correlation

[mossy badge]

Ye

Those who nose

[hybrid gazelle]

To explain

[uneven basin]

They're different enough from the Minecraft ones in lore and purpose, a remodel would be enough in my opinion

[hybrid gazelle]

Villagers are believed to be a racist Jewish sterotype created by notch

[mossy badge]

W notch

[hybrid gazelle]

Due to the evidence we have

[mossy badge]

Minecraft is a realistic game

[hybrid gazelle]

It certainly raise an eye brow

[hybrid gazelle]

The leftover message still follow through

[slim belfry]

I think iron golems can both be renamed and remodeled but keep the lore

[hybrid gazelle]

No matter tjose much you try to sugarcoat it

Wynncraft villagers will still be Minecraft villagers

[mossy badge]

Why would u rename them

[hybrid gazelle]

It just how it is

[uneven basin]

Aaaaaah yes that, it's a whole nother can of worms but I get it xd

[slim belfry]

ok true golem is more inconspicuous as to their nature

[hybrid gazelle]

Golem being golem is fin
If corruption still being called the nether ny people

What do you think gonna happen with villagers lol

[mossy badge]

Rename villager at most but like "iron golem" is an iron golem 🤯

[hybrid gazelle]

Tbh jsut name it golem like

I think iron golem I’d stupid mostly because like

Yeah I hope they made of metal

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/camman18-minecraft-golden-dandelion-dandelion-flower-gif-9833032701939821190

The iron golem

Which is an iron golem

[slim belfry]

to be fair iron golem is also accurate because blood has iron

[hybrid gazelle]

It like saying iron gun because

Yeah man I fucking hope they made of iron

[slim belfry]

"iron" golem

[mossy badge]

There are stone golems in wonncraft

Oops all golemus

[hybrid gazelle]

Tbh even then golems probably be rename to make it distinct to what golems civilization be long to

Befause we have Soosu golem

Gylia plain golem

Villager golem

[slim belfry]

name starting with o golem

[hybrid gazelle]

And god know how many golems we have

That I forgot

Tbh gylia plain golem is called Goliath

I think

Not be confuse with the undead Goliath

Also colossi is pretty much

Giant ass golem

Technically mech could count as golem too but

Electricity

[cinder cedar]

Or just rename then Constructs

but then DnD might get angy

[hybrid gazelle]

No the name

Is not the problem

They can still be golem

It just iron golem is a stupid name

Because that like

Saying metal gun

Yeah like I fucking hope so

Also villaher golem probably not even made of iron

It probably like

Other metal

[cinder cedar]

steel golem?

[uneven basin]

If there were dirt guns metal gun wouldn't be that silly a name tho

[hybrid gazelle]

You can’t fucking tell me iron is that cheap to mass produce

Urelix would be sleeping on the street if those golems are made of actual iron

[mossy badge]

Is Rieke Gale's mom? Also is Zhiarok Gale's uncle or Gale is Zhiraok's aunt? 🤔

[hybrid gazelle]

I think Ywah

Rieke is Gale’s mom

We can tell that Gale has rough childhood by looking at how Asian Rieke is

This is not racist befause I am Asian too

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[slim belfry]

oh gosh asian parent

[hybrid gazelle]

You know devs thst work on fruman did their home work we’ll

[cinder cedar]

are we talking about the same Gale as in Qira Hive?

[hybrid gazelle]

Consider how they understand the overbearing environment of being in Asian household in Fruma

Yes

This is the same Gale

Yes Gale is Asian

I mean

Asian inspired

[cinder cedar]

potato potatta

but concidering the competitive nature of Fruman aristocratic society no wonder why some families developed that parenting style

[slim belfry]

yeah frickin highlanders

[cinder cedar]

Highlands is everything wrong with "saving face" societies turned up to 10

no wonder why Majin or Ziggy turned out how they did

[hybrid gazelle]

Highland society is why mf like Majin exist

Z is literally the lucky outcome from the environment

Becuase he could be worse

He could be wayyyy worse

[cinder cedar]

that's why he's the GOAT

[slim belfry]

yeah and gale already escaped most of what happened

but dang zhiraok stuck around

[young sequoia]

I think he be like that cuz of family reputation

[hybrid gazelle]

Funniest part about Majin is that he literally did nothing in his life to deserve the role given to him

[young sequoia]

queen just ragebaited nasin house

[hybrid gazelle]

Him ascending sovereign? That probably because Gale left and he is the only candidate

The queen probably choose him as punishment to Nasin house as well who know

[mossy badge]

I mean what would one have to do to become sovereign

[hybrid gazelle]

Highland being good is not even his work

It’s just the work of past sovereign

[uneven basin]

He does have great skill tho

[hybrid gazelle]

What skill

Like what skill

[mossy badge]

Ye majin is learnt

[hybrid gazelle]

His blessing is too powerful to be used

So he essentially has no blessing most of the time

[slim belfry]

I think majin is a result of studying but not applying

[hybrid gazelle]

Fruma does not even have war going on to demand massive army operation

So him being high marshal just mean nothing

[slim belfry]

funny that when we had no context I was shocked he was declared "marshal" on the website

[hybrid gazelle]

So Majin literally

Just nothing person and he been doing nothing in his life

And has the audacity to boast about it

Even tho in his entire life

All of his “archivement” are just shit handed to him on silver plate

It’s high privilege as you can get

He literally polar opposite to Zhiraok

Majin started his life with everything while Zhiraok started with nothing

Majin got everything handed to him and be praise for it

While zhiraok has to work his way up and get not respect for it

||his death is way too fucking quick||

||I hope every single atom of his body scram out in pain when he blow up||

[cinder cedar]

the only good thing is that his drink is actually ok but even that was not his work at all

[hybrid gazelle]

His drink is just zhiraok brand but more flavor

It not even original

[cinder cedar]

yea

[hybrid gazelle]

He just try to outdid Zhiraok by using his drink as blueprint and just add more flavor

And peacock power

So yoh really want to fucking drink

A soda dalled

“Peacock Power”

[cinder cedar]

it screams blue raspberry

[hybrid gazelle]

“Majin’s Peacock Power”

[cinder cedar]

what do you think the other drinks tastes like?

I suspect queen's drink might be just orange soda

[hybrid gazelle]

I have a feeling that Gikyo habe their own drink brand

But it quickly banned from vender

[cinder cedar]

dude props made it out of arsenic or smt for shits n gigs

[hybrid gazelle]

I probably should go through drinks and comment on all of them

[cinder cedar]

soosu's dr pepper is nice with all the different variants of cola

ziggy's might be just a coffee or energy drink

[slim belfry]

ziggy??

[cinder cedar]

im calling Zhiraok as Ziggy

I don't wanna misspell his name so Ziggy it is, fight me

[hybrid gazelle]

It likely coffee consider the name

Actually no

I forgot the full name

But it something to do with sleep

[slim belfry]

oh right

zhirao something drink

sleep?

[warm flicker]

i mentioned this before, but ||after queen's recruit, we should get extra dialogue with Picard about discovering Fruman culture, and we can show him the various energy drinks we find||

[restive yacht]

mhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

let's not get Picard addicted to sodas

[warm flicker]

he needs caffine that will unlock his powers

[restive yacht]

or kill him of heart attack

[warm flicker]

nah he'd win

[restive yacht]

let's fight against cardiac arrest

[cunning bolt]

wait, gale?

oh nvm

but how is gale exactly asian-inspired again

[uneven basin]

Fruma as a whole is supposed to be asian inspired

[slim belfry]

there is no war in fruma

[snow kiln]

Each fruman province is a different part of asia

[burnt robin]

exactly

for example

roughworks are the sweatshops

[eternal arch]

💀

[slim belfry]

oh my gosh that's so true

[snow kiln]

So let's see is that China, wait Mongolia, waaait India, ah shit.

You didn't narrow it down at all smh

[young sequoia]

mostly slum areas of asia countries

highland people has dark/brown skin like indian

also possible their costume too

[cinder cedar]

some of the highland women are wearing saris

and the highland men are wearing galabeyas

or kurtas

[silk ravine]

It’s probably the strongest vodka imaginable

[lean wadi]

Are these made up words

[silk ravine]

No they’re types of clothes in Southern Asia

[lean wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/shockwave-dotm-unicrons-giant-space-ugsb-gif-17850931189301309423

[silk ravine]

A few of the highlands NPCs in Hyloch wear them

[burnt robin]

hyloch clothing looks roman for some reason

[silk ravine]

The elite knights around Hyloch also wear Chinese & Japanese styled armour

Except the Kipchaks. I honestly don’t know what they even are, there’s no lore explanation for them AFAIK but they’re easily the most powerful group of Fruma non knights in the game, far beyond the Gendarmes, Wings and Constables.

[slim belfry]

kipchaks are a part of constables

[silk ravine]

I thought they might be considering they look similar enough

Although them being way, way stronger than Gendarmes kind of breaks the lore considering Constables are just standard troops and Gendarmes are the absolute best soldiers the Queen has.

[burnt robin]

what are kipchaks

💀

send image

[silk ravine]

This thing

He can 1-shot a build with 50k EHP.

[burnt robin]

oh this guy

man hes not tough at all

thats just false

bro id beat him up any day

[silk ravine]

Are you thinking of this guy instead?

[twin perch]

so i stumbled upon some runnic language

does there exist a translator for it

(and i dont mean ancient wynnic or high gavellian)

[mossy badge]

Doesn't 1 shot me with 40k ehp 🤔

[mossy badge]

Ancient frumic

There is a translator

[twin perch]

alright

[mossy badge]

Visit ||Gale|| after ur done with ur playthrough

Well after u done a house devided secret

Tho the translator is kinda useless cuz the language is encoded

[twin perch]

wha

[burnt robin]

hell no

i well remember the difference

just play smart

[burnt robin]

yea...

[mossy badge]

Tahkashtel il encode

[burnt robin]

i tried translating the message on it

and it came out to

NESH IL KETH ATH SHEF NFILPETS USH ELUH SHOF TOFTULPRATH

[mossy badge]

Where is that from

[burnt robin]

the transcriber

[mossy badge]

Ur translation is wrong then

Or atleast in some orthography

[burnt robin]

i just eyeballed it

LAHAS
LOS
HUTH
also got this from the canopy sd

[uneven basin]

Is it a code or a conlang ?

[mossy badge]

Guess what they mean

[mossy badge]

It is constructed

[twin perch]

who the hell is ||niren|| i feel like i recognize that name

also i just found the house divided randomly lol

[mossy badge]

A soldier

||U can find his diary notes in the strong survive quest and then find him and question him||

[twin perch]

oh

i found the notes

where can i find him?

[mossy badge]

If u found all 6, there's a door atop the spiral staircase

[twin perch]

ah

i kinda

finished the quest already lol

im guessing i cant go back?

or can you

[mossy badge]

Dont think

[twin perch]

damn

[mossy badge]

Its not significant anyway, the other secret might be more significant but idk myself

[burnt robin]

go to gale

dude her dialogue is so funny cant wait until she gets voiced

[twin perch]

is she at the university or something?

also is there an ultimate discovery in fruma?

[mossy badge]

No(t yet?)

[burnt robin]

no

shes in the qira hive

[mossy badge]

She's at her usual spot

[twin perch]

oh damn

shes at qira hive?

i didnt even realize it

[burnt robin]

yea

gale nasin

W

[twin perch]

i remembered the name from somewhere

[mossy badge]

She's the air divison boss

[burnt robin]

i wonder how shed react when she realizes we KILLED THE QUEEN OF FRUMA

💀

[mossy badge]

Did u guys know she has infinite translators and dementia?

[burnt robin]

./classing is truly funny

wish there was a quest for gale backstory but oh well

[twin perch]

damn spoilers

it was to be expected though lol

like what else could be the boss for wartorn palace lol

[mossy badge]

Character in wonncraft exists: expect that we kill em 🔥

[mystic fulcrum]

Where do this guy even go at later quests?

[mossy badge]

Hubert 🤯

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036586382233194496/1469796720228696247/hubert.gif

[mossy badge]

Where even is he in early quests? Like he only appears twice in the whole storyline? 😭

[rich scarab]

i mean

[twin perch]

okay fair

did not see that bit lol

[rich scarab]

like, a lot of people are still spoilering things just in case people disregard that warning, but nonetheless spoilers are fully allowed here

[twin perch]

yea makes sense

[burnt robin]

tbf its the LORE channel

lol

like expect to be spoiled

[mossy badge]

Spoiler: Everyone fucking DIES

[rich scarab]

what in the dern spoiler

[burnt robin]

bro shows up ||in the first room 😭 ||

[twin perch]

welp

got the transcriber

time to have some fun with it

[mossy badge]

He's our saviour from the other (ass) room

[rich scarab]

nahhh all the rooms are peak

the wartorn peak

[mossy badge]

Hubert is the peak of evolution

https://tenor.com/view/the-peak-the-boys-fact-checked-the-deep-moglight-gif-2297865515687223826

[burnt robin]

the other room is the worst sh known toe man

[rich scarab]

the only thing bad about any of them is the animations in 3rd room if you're in a even mildly laggy world

[rotund gust]

oh my god this is talking about majin isn't it

when he saw majins comet for the first time

[split night]

Idk why but I had a funny thought, what if wynncraft oc that is just Roaring Knight somehow got to wynn and their class is assasin

[split night]

huh
neat mythic that's named after a song

[rotund gust]

... halycon is an actual word

its not just a song name

otherwise there would be a LOT of items named after songs

[mossy badge]

? ||Knightmare?||

[uneven basin]

You can actually

Just walk right back in

[split night]

im just dumb don't pay attention to it

[digital swan]

not anymore
a shit ton of people forgot the word halycon existed like @split night so someone managed to register it as their song name

[mossy badge]

Do u know about ||Knightmare?|| aint that basically it

[split night]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[digital swan]

beacuse real shit who actually uses halycon in... ever

[split night]

kind of??
it's just a decade old fan song toby made

there is no relation between knightmare and Roaring Knight

[rotund gust]

halycon is like... glory days. often talking about being back in school

[mossy badge]

Ppl been calling it that since the trailer

And maybe the ct who made it also said it was inspo im not sure

[digital swan]

died 2-3 years ago

[dim plover]

So basically the ||Knightmare boss||

[split night]

who the fuck is Knightmare

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/343781354854416385/1487529785474416721/togif.gif

[dim plover]

A miniboss in the WTP raid?

We see it in the trailer

[split night]

oh you mean george?

or whatever his name is

[mossy badge]

😭

[dim plover]

It’s the one that looks like Roaring Knight

[mossy badge]

Not hubert

[dim plover]

After Hubert in the trailer

The one with the sword and blood

[split night]

oh the guy in challenge 2

[dim plover]

Yeah

[split night]

can we name it something else, knightmare is kinda corny

[rustic nexus]

roaring knight

[rotund gust]

just but its cool

[split night]

https://tenor.com/view/wide-cat-wider-gif-3879805434184283975

[mossy badge]

😂

[dim plover]

It’s referencing the Roaring Knight though

(Like, it actually is CT has confirmed it)

[split night]

woaw

[dim plover]

Also mild reference to Knightmare Knight song I guess

[rustic nexus]

cucumber quest

!!

[dim plover]

Also bro acting like Knightmare isn’t the coolest name ever

[split night]

I've seen a lot of deltarune content from Content Team lately, are they cooking?

[rustic nexus]

yes

[uneven basin]

Star walker in the metro tunnels !!!

[rotund gust]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-cat-scared-donut-cat-cat-scared-of-donut-watch-out-for-donuts-gif-26890700

[dim plover]

No there is 0 Deltarune content in the game actually

Wynncraft should start referencing other games in their server, like Ultrakill

[rotund gust]

CT would never be influenced by other media

[dim plover]

I’ve seen like zero Ultrakill references whatsoever and I’ve played through the entire game like 5 times

[rustic nexus]

corkus has so many

wdym

sky/molten have some too

[dim plover]

(This is mainly because I have never played Ultrakill and would not recognize any references)

[rustic nexus]

time valley and tls have cerberus statues

[split night]

I personally believe if the Grootslang have a freedom motif, this guy would be jevil

[rotund gust]

realm of light also kinda has them

[dim plover]

Someone I was joking I know Wynncraft is chock-full of Ultrakill references

[rustic nexus]

I thought you meant playing the game 5 times through was about ultrakill not wynn

[mossy badge]

Aint ultrakill just christianity stuff

[rustic nexus]

not exactly

[split night]

probably??
it's just generic religion stuff

[rotund gust]

christianity if there was more blood

[mossy badge]

I thought cuz this msg

[rich scarab]

whoever made majin say "oh the joy! the incomparable joy!!" ||when he dies||, my life is yours

[dim plover]

The only Cerebus I know is the three headed dog

And I guess the girls from Helltaker

[rich scarab]

(this is, i believe, a rain world: the watcher reference)

[split night]

The only likable Majin dialog

[rotund gust]

ultrakill is a lot like dantes inferno

[rustic nexus]

WDYM A LOT LIKE, IT'S INSPIRED BY IT

😭

[rotund gust]

i mean

dantes hell doesn

doesn't have gay robots

so, checkmate atheists

[rich scarab]

it does also deviate from it a lot

[mossy badge]

🔥

[rustic nexus]

yeah well dante would've put them in the 7th circle of hell

[dim plover]

I only know who the player character of Ultrakill is solely because a decent portion of the Murder Drones community really likes shipping them with V

[split night]

I kinda wish someone make THE WORLD REVOLVING using wynncraft soundfont, it would be so peak

[rustic nexus]

@vernal bolt

[dim plover]

This is not a joke btw

https://external-preview.redd.it/that-v-x-v1-animation-but-alternate-ending-v0-MXNhZ3g1dmV6bmtlMcjQA5AAQ22LRD_TP5S7Kl3Ketbjexx8YNzoWCxpI3hi.png?format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=701126a4da68f2b5735990e1f4db7eb7b4d4741f

[rotund gust]

murder drones mention 🤢

[rustic nexus]

he's just standing there...

[dim plover]

I don’t really get it but good for them I guess

[uneven basin]

Hop off my goat

[dim plover]

I’m not one to hate on shipping

[split night]

there's no blood in this machine he can't sense it even being here

[split night]

Bak'al x Lari

[dim plover]

I’m really not one to hate on shipping

[mossy badge]

Btw aint ur name in*est?

[dim plover]

Incredible

[dim plover]

Are they supposed to be siblings

[mossy badge]

Twins

[uneven basin]

They're kismesises

[dim plover]

That tells me nothing

They’re twins because they’re realm beasts

[split night]

I don't generally believe they are literally twins or siblings, I always thought they are mirrored beings

[rich scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262010576295821312/1368015642698973316/lariavafunny3.gif

[vernal bolt]

[split night]

If the ship is problematic enough I might stop shipping them

[dim plover]

If the staff team didn’t want us to ship them together they would have told us by now

[rustic nexus]

the people a hungry for more siivagunner wynn rips

[dim plover]

Also isn’t Anathema technically their daughter

[split night]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bird-bird-cat-pointer-finger-point-finger-cat-bird-point-finger-cat-gif-2676038606799380578

[mossy badge]

Well that doesn't mean it can't be what i said

[dim plover]

Wait

Artists quick draw Orphion and DB as Andy and Ashley it’ll be really funny

Do it

[split night]

Yeah ||Anathema|| is their hate daughter

[dim plover]

It’ll be the most hilarious thing

[split night]

it's kinda supposed to be a familly with two abused parent and a daughter

idk, what are we as mortals have the right to say about thing beyond our comprehension?

[uneven basin]

This but with the realm beasts and Microsoft teams is fruma

[mossy badge]

Teams wouldn't be fruma

Why would it

[split night]

I always think CT is an actual team name like Team Cherry so I like calling them Team Content sometimes

[uneven basin]

It's the place anathema ended in

[hybrid gazelle]

tbh

technically CT would be devs

but like

the different is all devs get pay

[mossy badge]

She wants to be there

[hybrid gazelle]

while CT are volutneers but some of them get pay

tbh it should not even be matter to us anyway and I feel like distinct between is confusing

[split night]

Unpaid dev Team and Dev team

[hybrid gazelle]

like technically all of them are devs as they contribute to the development of the game

yeah but that the thing some CT do get pay

[split night]

neat

[mossy badge]

I report bug and make feedback, i contribute to the development of the game 🔥

Im a dev

[split night]

i didn't expect Team Content lore but i like it

[mossy badge]

Anyway, does any1 know where was the ascendancy (/fire/ek) shrine in the beta?

@regal spire

[dim plover]

They added an Ek Shrine?

Oh wait I guess it was in that room below the ice beside the Nasin house

For the secret discovery

[mossy badge]

Wait sorry not ek

Uhh nii ig

[clever marlin]

||why dont the leaves just like immediately cut off zhiraoks head and take it with them. Will he grow it back?||

[hybrid gazelle]

||pretty sure yes, since it's time reversion||

||the charm will be active by then which would reverse Zhiraok's head to return to his body||

[split night]

That
sound terrifying and I like it

[regal spire]

Ascendancy was in Torann

[split night]

Idk why but I keep getting a sense of deja vu when I play apotheosis
for some reason I felt like I've seen it before in my dream or something, kinda vivid

[regal spire]

People thought it was Apoc

[hasty beacon]

Dang so i cant put him in a blender and scatter his remains throughout the world

[split night]

He said that the process of coming back to life is as painful as when you are dying so I don't want to imagine the kind of pain this would feel like when your atoms rearranging itself to be you again

[mossy badge]

Its not there anymore right? What about other shrines? Were there even others?

(other than architect and restitution)

[tepid blade]

What is Zhiroak is like a starfish who if you cut him up into smaller pieces each one will grow into a completely new one

[hybrid gazelle]

||nope||

||he will feel all the pain tho||

[rotund gust]

ascendency shrine got removed

[silk ravine]

My build has dreadful walk speed, I have no choice but to just eat the attack head on and it almost kills me. It’s somewhat of a meme build though.

[rotund gust]

it wasn't supposed to be there

[hybrid gazelle]

||but like literally you just pissing him off because no matter what as long as he charged his charm, he will get revive||

||the only way to kill Zhiraok is that you kill him WITHOUT his charm charged||

[rotund gust]

so we just have the architect and restitution shrines

[mystic fulcrum]

Or throw Zhiraok into lava and he will burn to death everytime he get up

[split night]

Assuming he is still sane after all that to be pissed off

xd

[hybrid gazelle]

||that work too this assuming you can get him there in the first place lol||

[mossy badge]

We must glitch into wastelands and find it rn 🔥

[split night]

what if we drink his remain
i mean, we did put him in a blender right?

[hybrid gazelle]

||Trying to by pass Zhiraok time reversion revival just need a lot of set upin which he would be too smart to fall into||

[hybrid gazelle]

||well depend if you manage to drink it in time before the charm activate||

||but in pratice, the charm liekyl get destroy when you blend him so yeah no point||

[split night]

oh yeah btw

have you read the AU i made

[rotund gust]

can't wait to find the other 64 shrines for all the other mythics out in the wastelands

[silk ravine]

Which ones have shrines at the moment?

[rotund gust]

just restitution and architect

[mossy badge]

_ _

[rotund gust]

that we know of

[silk ravine]

lol restitution has a shrine?

[mossy badge]

Dont think there's others rn

[hybrid gazelle]

which one is that?

[split night]

here

[hybrid gazelle]

hmm

certainly could be good storyline yeah

[split night]

I wish wynncraft was slightly bigger
dialogs or actions having real consequences in later quest gotta be some of the biggest thing they could do xd

[paper wyvern]

The thing is wynn didnt really have a larger plot till gavel reborn

[split night]

huh? How's that related?
I mean, what stopping them from going back to rework on stuff

You just drop some pretty neat information i guess

xd

[paper wyvern]

Im more saying that in the sense that its only recently that the whole war of the realms major storyline was added

so itll take until the next reworks for anything like that to happen

[rustic nexus]

yeah I can't wait to see what can be done for the rest of the game with what the CT have learned in making fruma

[split night]

Yeah?
I fully expected that

I even expect it to be within the next 10 years we get another major update

Or at least I have kids

xd

[paper wyvern]

yeah im honestly expecting the next update to be either a wynn revamp or touchign up gavel

[split night]

I gotta say
RoL with Fruma quality is gonna be divine

[tepid blade]

They have begun to do that more, even with things I wouldn't expect, as with the other trainee from the Strong Survive quest (I don't remember his name), he appears in the Market Square town in the Capital having joined the resistance, but only if you where nice to him during the quest, as if you where a jerk to them, he apparently wouldn't appear which I think is cool

[paper wyvern]

like seriously the fact that we dont see taism in gavel is a crime

[split night]

Yeah this has always bugged me for the longest time

[hasty beacon]

True i didnt even know he went there

[split night]

He said he's off to gavel and we kinda find him nowhere here

[tepid blade]

If they are go to remake a quest, I want it to be RoL

[silk ravine]

I would have liked to get more quests with Elphaba and Aledar before ||they die in the SE questline||

[split night]

everyone want a RoL remake
the trade off is that Orphion might be a full blown villain but Lari might be a better person
I'd say it's a good trade because Orphion is already an ass in the current quest xd

[paper wyvern]

yeah would be cool to see aledar in a few more wynn quests, and have elphaba around more of the orc war questline

[silk ravine]

IMO WynnExcavation is the one they should do first, ROL already had a remake once before, and WynnExcavation is extremely lore relevant.

[split night]

Yeah like
anything that make us feel attach

Fruma's character was so good because they got time to have character developement and us interacting with them more

[paper wyvern]

I would like if lari felt a littl better and orphion was more of an asshole who acts like he supports the greater good

[paper wyvern]

wynnex has needed a revamp since gavel

[silk ravine]

||Seeing more of Aledar around would make his death hit harder and make us understand Tasim’s POV much more, right now Tasim is a sympathetic villain to some degree but still comes off as a bit of an idiot at times.||

[paper wyvern]

not gavel reborn, gavel

[split night]

Reverse their pysche and have Lari be neutral but Orphion be "Light is absolute good" kind of guy might genuinely make for a good story xd

[silk ravine]

lol I was playing Wynncraft when the OG gavel update came out

I think I was around lvl60

[tepid blade]

No true, I do want Orphion to be more outwardly manipulative in my opinion, but still keep the Benevolence act up, and I think the third quest could be both better made and written as it doesn't feel like it should exist currently as it is only brought up one other time afterward

[split night]

Honestly just include tasim to sidequests in Gavel and Include Aledar for sidequest in Wynn and the main questline Wynnex
I genuinely want the Ragni King to give the title to Aledar and Us the Hero of Wynn

[paper wyvern]

honestly having lari lose faith in orphion during the questline and then only help in rol5 because it prevents world destruction would be amazing

[split night]

we're cooking

But yeah
Aledar in Wynnex might be a good idea chat, wdy think

[silk ravine]

Agreed 100%

[paper wyvern]

and it could be because of realizing that orphion is actualy amoral and truly does not care what she does as long as she fights darkness

[paper wyvern]

absolutely 1000%

[uneven basin]

Not sure I like wynnex being kind of our thing

[tepid blade]

WynnExcavation?

[paper wyvern]

and instead of lari ending on "I finally found somehting worth killing" it would be "Im fighting for my morals instead of an uncaring god"

[split night]

yeah

[split night]

Cinema

[uneven basin]

There's already a whole lot of questlines you do with someone else having one where you are alone kinda feels special

[paper wyvern]

yeah maybe just have him in site A and B

[split night]

Ragni King: "I now declare you two... The Hero of Wynn. I think Bob is up here smiling at the two of you"

It would feel so gooood

and it would hurt so much in SE

like genuinely

[paper wyvern]

and then C you do with amadel instead but aledar reveals after he knew who amadel was

[split night]

If that was a thing, the ajf would HURT

[uneven basin]

That sounds good, I like how our character is implicitly very curious it would make good storytelling to have aledar not care / give up while we press on

[paper wyvern]

and then after D aledar was the escort for the king

[tepid blade]

It could work with a change to the questlines story, and it could be changed to have more about the Olm as they are important in the current lore, but they first appear in that quest randomly, I think introducing them better in this questline could be cool

[uneven basin]

And he tells us about his other crazy adventure it would be peak

Tbh what we really need is at least one tasim side quest in gavel

[split night]

Aledar have so much potential material to be even greater of a character chat, if Team Content care about them a little bit more

[paper wyvern]

so basically A happens after the mercenary with us bringing aledar along, B happens after meeting with aledar near the twains house because he was also looking into it. C is as normal but with better writing and amadel is the sidekick. and D is solo but aledar comes in at the end due to escorting the king

[tepid blade]

I do think that we could get more with Tasim and Aledar, as I believe that at least at the start of Fruma, Tasim didn't feel like I should be as close as the game said we were

[uneven basin]

Wynnexcavation has this whole thing on how it was amadel's master plan to make you so his bidding so maybe we could have something on how he sidelined aledar to focus on you, maybe make a point on how you have fewer ties

[split night]

If the game make us feel like Tasim and Aledar are close friend through quest, it gonna make major quest in SE and Fruma even more impactful as well

[uneven basin]

True as is the nope put of the story at level 30

[paper wyvern]

yeah make it so during C was whatever siege of troms was mentioned in queens recruit dialogue

and aledar was specifically called on to help by a connection of amadel

I mean its literally troms

wynnex owns that city

[tepid blade]

Yeah the siege of Troms mention does kind of come out of know where, I even thought like "Wait was there a quest for a siege of Troms?"

[paper wyvern]

could also make the siege of troms during site D

and its something orchestrated by wynnex to keep everyone distracted while amadel fights you

and then you end the quest in troms and see everyone

[uneven basin]

Maybe we can make it the siege of ragni so everyone really is away and we still have our cutscene with the king at the end

Ragni is corruption's punching bag so it'd come out less out of left field

[paper wyvern]

yeah honestly why is ragnis theme luxury of the cease fire when its a punching bag

of all the songs in wynn the name of that has always been the weirdest to me

[tepid blade]

It would also make even more sense for the king to compare us to Bob if we defend Ragni, as that is what he did

[paper wyvern]

although I do think it makes more sense for the fighting to be in troms during wynnex

due to wynnex control and proximity to side D and also bob did defend troms as well

[tepid blade]

true

[uneven basin]

We do need more Troms lore / relevancy

Jungle discoveries when

[split night]

Should troms have a history of war with Ragni?

[silk ravine]

Troms was at one point the endgame city, it’s surprising how under utilised it is

Idk about a history of war with Ragni specifically, it wouldn’t make much sense considering how close they are & how they’re both basically the two biggest targets of the corruption in Wynn

[split night]

I mean like 1BP and below, would they war for more territory?

[paper wyvern]

nah a history of constantly disrupted cooperation works best

[paper wyvern]

I dobt the passage is that old

the great bridge is definitely ancient

[split night]

considering human nature and all
i mean, it seem like human are pretty docile in this universe, they don't seem to hate anyone else specifically or anything

The villagers on the other hand

[paper wyvern]

but idk about the passage

[paper wyvern]

well yeah humanity in universe has been united against an exestential threat for 1000 years

the only ones not involved are fruma who are fighting eachother

and only really held in line through the queen taking drastic measures like meteors and flooding

[split night]

she just kinda scare them into submission

I think the Villagers just kinda is human but like
convergence evolution
except for the big nose and hating everyone, they don't seem very much different from human
heck, a human and a villager had a child together

so it seem like Villagers and Humans at least have the same ancestry

[uneven basin]

What If convergent evolution

Or magic

[tepid blade]

Okay, something that I found actually kind of funny about villagers is the majority of them in Gavel are just racist towards the majority of other sapient beings, they ban elves from entering their cities, they call us small nosed, and they have seething hatred of orcs

[split night]

they had magic bedding and birthed a child

[split night]

Yeah, that actually is what radiate from the most of them

not my goat Seaskipper though, he's the best

I genuinely thought every villagers is gonna be like him

[silk ravine]

Also going back to the mythic shrines it’s kind of funny how one of the two shrines is dedicated to the worst mythic in the game lmao

[tepid blade]

Yeah, that why I said Gavel, as in most other places they are just fine with everyone else

it's only really the Gavel villagers that hate others

[silk ravine]

Wynn villagers are noticeably less racist than Gavel villagers even post rekindled/gavel update

[split night]

Seaskipper is carrying the entire specie on his back

[split night]

What about the maltic quest

[silk ravine]

Oh yeah true I forgot that

To be honest I forget Maltic exists sometimes lol it has one quest only.

[split night]

That one is the actual racist one because the witch is the same species as them

[tepid blade]

I don't think its racism, only hatred of magic and witchcraft

[silk ravine]

I like the little towns dotted around Wynn tbh

[split night]

I like Bucie

[silk ravine]

Bucie my beloved, I wish it kept its music.

[split night]

I thought the witch said something about her appearance that make them hate her?

[silk ravine]

Efilim is the only one I don’t like lol, it’s so unsafe to AFK in

[split night]

I mean I don't really remember the details cuz Maltic is kinda forgettable

[paper wyvern]

yeah the whole witch thing was becuase she looked weird

[paper wyvern]

d9oes elfilim even have any blue name tag mobs

[split night]

dang
most Villagers just hate anyone who doesn't look like em'

[paper wyvern]

yes

they are extremely racist

[uneven basin]

Yeah just no walls

[paper wyvern]

would absolutely win competitive racism in wynncraft

[split night]

I would find it funny that even though the Elf opening portal doesn't do much to the villagers, they would still genocide them for the love of the game if they know about it

[paper wyvern]

dullahan

[silk ravine]

A few but there’s no wall and hostile mobs can get in.

[tepid blade]

It's a bit funny, because it's usually the Elves in fantasy who are the racist ones, but they seem to get along just fine with everyone else, just a bit secretive

[split night]

yeah that one is the first instance

[silk ravine]

Bruh they straight up guillotined Dullahan because his skin got turned grey.

[split night]

I guess the racist status has transferred to the villagers

[paper wyvern]

the dwarves are still racist though

althouhg its agianst doguns instead of elves

[silk ravine]

The dwarves are Wynncraft’s CEOs of racism

[tepid blade]

oh, definitely, but they do get better by the end of their questline

[uneven basin]

They thought he was causing the decay

[paper wyvern]

nah thats the villagers the dwarves are shareholders at best

[split night]

They are more successful genocidalist than racist
I mean if we count the amount of species one specie hate

[silk ravine]

Also are the Skyraiders a separate race?

[split night]

No Skyraiders are human

[silk ravine]

Or are they just elves that got lost?

[split night]

they just all happen to be woman

[paper wyvern]

skyraiders arent human though

they predate humanity in gavel

[split night]

what

Oh yeah

[tepid blade]

Bro was a scapegoat, and I bet those who kidnapped him knew that he wasn't doing it, they just wanted someone to blame for their problems

[split night]

that's actually kinda true

wtf are they

xd

[silk ravine]

Aren’t they way way older than humanity in Gavel? They were around long before Ahmsord was built iirc

[paper wyvern]

To: 356th Skyraider Queen, 573 AP.

[uneven basin]

That's probably true

[split night]

Yeah i got it

[tepid blade]

Wait, are the Skyraiders a plot hole????

gasp

[paper wyvern]

yes

I have created multiple increasingly absurd headcannons about them that dont actually fit the lore

[split night]

I guess they might be descendants of elf??

[silk ravine]

They’re quite old, nothing much has changed about them since the OG gavel update.

They’re probably just awaiting retcons

[split night]

Or some human just really good at scaling the mountains to the side of the sea in wynncraft

[tepid blade]

I bet on them being some sort of near human species that are just all female

[split night]

They reproduce via mitosis

[silk ravine]

Realistically you could retcon them into either being an elf subspecies or an orc subspecies

[paper wyvern]

that is my headcannon and I refuse to accept otherwise

the skyraiders either mitose or are semi artifical and I refuse to accept other explanations

[tepid blade]

or you know they pull a hammerhead shark and can create clone children without the need for a male member

[split night]

I am gladly to be the one to instill this idea on your mind

[split night]

all lesbian spiecie

[paper wyvern]

nah you wernent

I had that for a while

that and that the skyraider are similar to the smaller golems

[split night]

Trashie might know about this more than any of us

[tepid blade]

Why?

[split night]

But my theory is that some human just travel along the mountain to the sides of the sea and get to Gavel secretly

[paper wyvern]

anythign on skyraiders is headcannon cause all we have is one secret discovery

https://wynncraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Ruler_of_the_Skies

[split night]

they're the #📚lore_discussion scholar

[tepid blade]

ahh, cool

[paper wyvern]

given that royal trials doesnt even give a reason for doing it much less actual skyraider lore

[split night]

I think this one might make the most sense?

[paper wyvern]

my headcannon is that the skyraiders are made up of pre villager ahms natives but the actual skyraider organization accepted other races

[tepid blade]

Okay I have an out there theory that our player character might be canonically female (or at least Feminine in appearance) because of this quest

like I said it is super out there, but it how I wrap my head around this quest

[brave rune]

since when are the gavel-ocean mountains open where the light portal is btw

[paper wyvern]

I actually think the other way because the guard says we look funny in the skyraider outfit

[young sequoia]

nah in theory wynn world would be much more bigger

the mountain here is just act as gameplay border

[split night]

Some quest kinda state that player's Character is kinda masculine
either way, i think player's Character is both or up to player's Interpretation
take it as you may

[hybrid gazelle]

reminder that these more masculine take on palyer are mostly oudated LOL

I thin kCT mention that they gotta go fix that

[tepid blade]

I do personally believe that our character is just what ever we choose them to be (seeing how we are only referred to in gender neutral pronouns)

[paper wyvern]

I have plenty of headcannon on how the skyraiders work but in terms of actual lore all the lines we really have are
Skyraider Guard: Back off! No'ne enters 'til the pirate queen is chosen. What's a landwalker like you doin' here?
Skyraider Guard: Participate? Are ye crazy? Ain't no way a landlubber is wearing the crown.
Skyraider Guard: Off with ya now! Before I call the gals to gut you. And dun' go wandering around chatting to any skyraiders!

[split night]

I mean my Character is very much woman and very pretty so

[hybrid gazelle]

I fucking love how skyraider got like

their own quest

and appear in toher quest

but literally like

we know jack shit about them

[paper wyvern]

we literally become their fuckign queen and still know fuckall

[split night]

they are just mirrored pirate

[hybrid gazelle]

They like pirate

but in the sky but also woman

[split night]

but sky

[hybrid gazelle]

also their death rate is fucking high

[tepid blade]

Same, as one of my younger sister chose the skin (which is feminine in appearance) I have currently and I don't feel like changing it

[split night]

they are all woman for some reason

[hybrid gazelle]

but for some reason they still exist

so I ahve 0 idea

They just mitosis like that i guess

[paper wyvern]

mitosis theory support

[young sequoia]

what would the skyraider be before ahm colossion went mad

[hybrid gazelle]

I am sorry I only accept mpreg dullahan theory

IDK

[young sequoia]

nah they must be some alien

[hybrid gazelle]

apperantly they exist WAYY before 900 AP

so they cant be human

because that imply

human somehow end up in Gavel

in Sky island

all consist of woman

and somehow still presist to 1000 AP

[tepid blade]

I think that they could be a near human species that can asexually reproduce (cloning, mitosis, etc.) some how

[split night]

Sapience species that look woman, can mitosis and is sky pirate

[hybrid gazelle]

they literally juse elves

[paper wyvern]

I mean I have the more out there theory of them being like ancient self replecating golems

[hybrid gazelle]

like IDK why people keep saying they are human

like dude

Gavel has like

short people the spieces

[paper wyvern]

that developed real personality

[shut hornet]

my headcanon on the skyraiders is that the 2015 gavel gms forgot gavel was the villager province

[hybrid gazelle]

and andryonous people

[paper wyvern]

but thats just my love of sci fi

[hybrid gazelle]

so like

[paper wyvern]

oh absolutely

[hybrid gazelle]

IDK why the idea of skyraider being non human

is such a hard concept to gasp

LIKE

THERE LITERALLY FUCKING HOBBIT

[paper wyvern]

but were stuck with this and I hope it doesnt change

[hybrid gazelle]

YOU TELLING ME YOU ACCEPT THE IDEA OF
SHORT PEOPLE RACE
SHORTER PEOPLE RACE
AND LONG EAR PEOPLE RACE IN GAVEL

BUT CANT ACCEPT WOMAN RACE

[tepid blade]

Like I said they near human, not actually human

[hybrid gazelle]

I have os many people try to arguewith me that Skyraider are human

like fuck no

like

[split night]

when is men race gonna drop

[shut hornet]

player is canonically just whatever you want them to be. they are not more masculine or feminine in appearance. they do not have a canon design. the player is whatever you want them to be

[split night]

there we go, someone with more credibility say it for me

[shut hornet]

the closest you get to an actual canon design for the player is probably just the base wynn class designs

[tepid blade]

Yeah, I know

[young sequoia]

let rework them!!!

[paper wyvern]

the player is canonically archer no I will not explain

[hybrid gazelle]

I think those are canon now

like they eixst in wynn

mage wynncraft canonically fucking dead

[tepid blade]

what

[shut hornet]

theyre used as hive npcs but its more of just a silly thing

[paper wyvern]

wairf whar

ah

[shut hornet]

your player can still be them if you want

[split night]

There is someone named Mage and last name Wynncraft??

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

[young sequoia]

bro died in earth divison 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

that wynnclass name

[shut hornet]

those are not The Real Mage Wynncraft

[hybrid gazelle]

that 100% canon

yeah

that 100% canon

[vestal sentinel]

ưhere

i meant where is that stated/found

[split night]

Wow
I would like to meat this person who is Mage and last name Wynncraft

[hybrid gazelle]

They are Warrior Wynncraft
Assassin Wynncraft
Mage Wynncraft
Archer Wynncraft
Shaman WYnncraft

None of them are related to each other btw

[shut hornet]

go to the qira hive

[vestal sentinel]

ic

[paper wyvern]

anyway as I said the player is archer and the skyraiders are self replicating golems, mage wynncraft is dead and all this is 100% cannon

[split night]

Big ass familly tree then, they gotta be very far cousins

[hybrid gazelle]

Skyraider proably inspire by those amazon spieces trope

where they are women only spieces

[young sequoia]

actually mage wynncraft is us

[hybrid gazelle]

which is like

okay???

[shut hornet]

selvut had the skins made for those like over a year ago but i added them only recently because i needed a convenient excuse to slip in a gale npc

[hybrid gazelle]

pretty weird world building sure but yeah I guess

[split night]

Oh yeah actually
that make a lot more sense now

[hybrid gazelle]

it one of those

It weird trope to fall into

but then agian Gavel back then is anything but trope with no creative spin

[split night]

Honestly, the more you say the more I'm convinced that they are Lesbian Speicies that mitosis as well

[hybrid gazelle]

so it make sense they use this concept

[paper wyvern]

skyraiders being an amazonian species made out of clay and the reason they resorted to piracy is that resources to make new of them dried up with most of ahms falling into the void

[tepid blade]

I still believe the Skyraiders are reproduce asexually

[split night]

I think everyone agree on that

[paper wyvern]

yeah

[vestal sentinel]

i think they go through the process of mitosis

[hybrid gazelle]

I try to remake them wait

[split night]

I just imagine some random human just kinda married to a Skyraider and then " HELP MY WIFE IS MITOSISING"

[mossy badge]

They don't reproduce, mr ahms keeps spawning them from the void 🔥

[vestal sentinel]

well, he has 2 now

or her

[vestal sentinel]

perhaps them

[shut hornet]

i like the idea of the angels being skyraiders

[split night]

Is this fella an Archetype design or an oc

[vestal sentinel]

are there villager shaped angels?

[split night]

I always imagine boltslinger to be more windy and eletric-cy

[vestal sentinel]

like, they're in the villager's province and- and-

[hybrid gazelle]

oh no angels still exist as their own things

wait let me get them

[tepid blade]

I think that the reproduce through Parthenogenesis (which is getting pregnant without the need for a member of the opposite gender) and that would why they all look the same, as it basically cloning

[hybrid gazelle]

Skyraider just tkae inspire from them

[hybrid gazelle]

both

[split night]

neaty

[shut hornet]

my headcanon is the skyraiders do not reproduce at all and its all 1 big lesbian club that just accepts new members to stay active

[paper wyvern]

I should write down my headcannons and post them

[split night]

Lesbian Skyraiders Theory supporter

[hybrid gazelle]

this imply that there are enough lesbian end up in the club to keep it afloat

WHERE ALL THESE LESBIAN HIDING THEN

[tepid blade]

great theory

[hybrid gazelle]

We only get lesbians in Fruma expansion

[spring kernel]

The skyraiders are like those lesbian geckos

[paper wyvern]

hey we got gays as well

[shut hornet]

all of wynn and gavels lesbians join the skyraiders. thats why we never see them outside of fruma otherwise

[hybrid gazelle]

no we got gays before Fruma

[vestal sentinel]

wow! what if a villager want to join? is there a trimming-off-your-fucking-nose ritual?

[hybrid gazelle]

Maxie and Rhay

[split night]

what if the lesbian in fruma got exiled and all of them become skyraiders

[hybrid gazelle]

I would say Tasim and Aledar but people dont see them as couple

even tho Lexnt is like biggest Tasim x Aledar next to Meefy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1489172687577153546/ezgif-4b87bb36c46a746a.gif

[shut hornet]

villagers are extremely homophobic and thats why there arent many villager skyraiders

theyre all in the closet sadly

[vestal sentinel]

i see

[tepid blade]

I see it like Tasim had a crush on Aledar but never got to tell him his feelings

[vestal sentinel]

make sense

[hybrid gazelle]

Tasim is wynncraft's biggest yearner so this check out

bro one quest ina nd already mention Aledar

geniunely I think this man just do it competitively

[shut hornet]

he got The 'Dar on the mind

[spring kernel]

Skyraiders reproduce asexually and therefore all have the same genes, that's why they all look the same

like those insects

[shut hornet]

do the detlas citizens do this too?

[spring kernel]

They have... a different method

[split night]

what is that method

[shut hornet]

i think the detlas citizens reproduce via mitosis

[hybrid gazelle]

this apply to elves too

elves literally only have one skin beside unqiue elves character

[paper wyvern]

no thtas just a lack of modelss

skyraiders do mitose though

[split night]

After hearing about the Lesbian Skyraider Club theory, i'd say i'm leaning toward that more than the Skyraider Mitosis theory

[shut hornet]

fun fact i discovered yesterday that originally all detlas citizens were supposed to wear green

[paper wyvern]

I still have the skyraider golems theory you all cannot silence the truth

[shut hornet]

they all got that green gene

[paper wyvern]

ah yes genetic clothing a staple of fantasy

[shut hornet]

likewise all ragni citizens were supposed to wear red and i think nemract citizens blue

[tepid blade]

Color coordination the city, well I guess all cities

[shut hornet]

actually this might be the case anyway

i havent paid attention

[split night]

Is there any chance the pink and yellow colors in Her's Majesty eyes be possibly referring to Freedom and Spamton from the hit game Deltarune

[hasty beacon]

Yes

That is exactly what it’s referring to

[paper wyvern]

yhes

[tepid blade]

I looked it up in the Nemract case, 90% of them wear blue, like everyone but the villiagers and two named characters where blue

[split night]

FREEDOM

[shut hornet]

my theory is that the queen is img_friend

[hasty beacon]

She doesnt do the smile tho

[shut hornet]

thats only because u piss her off constantly

so shes never in the mood

[tepid blade]

Okay, my character I act out in the game, at least to villains or people they don't like, are kind of a brat

so it makes sense that the queen doesn't like me

[warped cargo]

do the realm beasts actually have any sort of consistent pronouns and gender or is it just whatever? i've noticed orphion switches pronouns in the same section of dialogue.

[paper wyvern]

||anathema is she/her oprhion is he/him saphanis I dont think we ever actually hear pronouns||

[hybrid gazelle]

||Saphanis go by it/its||

[warped cargo]

i thought the spymaster referred to orphion as her.

[drifting aurora]

i slipped a couple of these into dialogue

idk if you noticed the rest

[rich scarab]

i might've in the moment but if i did i have since forgotten, though tbf i only remembered this one as i have all of that character's (the one in rw not majin) dialogue memorised

[drifting aurora]

you are misremembering

[warped cargo]

who was playing hollow knight while working on the gear for assassin? i see both mothwing cloak and silksong

[drifting aurora]

i actually think she only ever uses it/its for the light and dark

[celest falcon]

Is Orphion anthropomorphizing himself to garner support from entities in the physical realm? Never trust a realm beast

[tepid blade]

I think that the Beasts technically don't have a gender, as they more of a force given consciousness than a physical being like humans

[mossy badge]

Orphions pronouns are still he/him

[mossy badge]

Nah bro he's just chill, ask @winged narwhal for totally unbiased opinion

[winged narwhal]

The Light is good. Orphion knows best.

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[winged narwhal]

Unlike Lari, He understands what must be done

He is naturally cute and fluffy and trustable

You should do what He says

[hybrid gazelle]

so apperantly

[tepid blade]

yes lore master trashie?

[hybrid gazelle]

this must be done not included tell his chosen how to use her power

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-ohio-respect-foxy-gif-17451501218491172722

[hybrid gazelle]

and guide her to do what she need to do

[tepid blade]

I mean he is the #📚lore_discussion scholar apparently

[half osprey]

ok but hear me out: Orphion freezing me and nobody having the awareness to help me out though? Orphion didn't have to remind me that nobody GAF about you

[limber swan]

||wtf is reynauld wearing lmao||

[tepid blade]

He also forced me to kill the mayor instead of that golem creating mad scientist, which why I hated him from the start

[tepid blade]

I don't think armor shows up in cutscenes, only custom models and player skins

[half osprey]

imagine having armor toggled, this post was made by wynntils gang

[tepid blade]

it does look like he's wearing some kind of gambeson under armor

[mossy badge]

Sounds like skill issue 💔

[winged narwhal]

Urelix's work is unfortunately a neccessity. In war, you need to make hard decisions if you want to win.

Lexdale and Gelibord are barely hanging on as is.

[tepid blade]

But it's necessary for me to KICK URELIX'S ASS

[winged narwhal]

Orphion understands a truth that you do not: there is no route to victory through slavish adherence to a creed of pacifism

Entire towns fall to the Dark without golems.

[smoky bridge]

Since when do orphion did that

Actually when did orphion ever do bad things someone remind me

[haughty oasis]

It wasn’t forced

It was a test

[smoky bridge]

This and lari are the worst employer employee dynamics I’ve ever seen

[tepid blade]

At the beginning of the 2nd RoL quest, he gives you the option to leave, kill the scientist, or kill the mayor, the quest will only progress if you kill the mayor

[smoky bridge]

Did they integrate heart of iron into rol

[tepid blade]

also have you done Fruma yet?

[smoky bridge]

Yes

I’ve done everything

[winged narwhal]

He is not my employer. I am his Pulse. This goes deeper than any job.