📚lore_discussion

[soft radish]

(i never went to public school in elementary school)

[edgy jungle]

kids are way more racist than teenagers

[soft radish]

fair enough

they're also ableist

sexist

probably homophobic unless their parents are liberals

[solid fable]

@hybrid gazelle what do you think about the amulet of a thousand storms

[hybrid gazelle]

it exist

I dont remember much

but it do exist

[edgy jungle]

its stormy too

very stormy

[soft radish]

like

thousands of storms worth of stormy

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynncraft racism so good it get meta level

because they will tell you that orcs are more complex that they appear

but they allow you to wear their skin as item and still never give them proper name

so the only name you could ever call them is greenskins

[soft radish]

and the fact that the other orc camps depict orcs that aren't as civilized as the ones in All Roads to Peace

[hybrid gazelle]

also they dont even respect other greenskins
Like literally if you are not orc or goblins, you have iq of room temperature in greenskins family

which in this case is troll and ogres

actually no ogres have like one individual that can talk

but that mostly for the fucking meme and not like you know

actually try to bother making fantasy spieces

[solid fable]

Bro ok so apparently the avos hid it from the corkians coz it was really super powerful

i was literally wondering if things were going south with the corkians why didn't they just use the amulet to wipe out the corkians lol

[soft radish]

i like memes

[hybrid gazelle]

greenskins only have right if they are part of the quest actaully

[hybrid gazelle]

Avos wnat to low tier god the corkians

peak lore

[soft radish]

do you know anything about the mind goblins?

[hybrid gazelle]

IDK LMAO

ltierally half of greenskins got lower iq than actual fucking rock people in the game

[edgy jungle]

the fuck are those?

[soft radish]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

Mind goblin deez nuts

[hybrid gazelle]

villager waiting for their deletion when they finalyl figure out how to remake them

[soft radish]

And now to exit stage left

[solid fable]

they honestly could've bro and idk why they didn't

[hybrid gazelle]

Elves on their way to painfully be generic because the gavel devs at that time could not be bother of making them little bit related to Orphion visually or world buidling wise

[solid fable]

this is why the only thing i take seriously in 2016 corkus is the envoy and mixed feelings

everything else wasn't thought out really well lmaoo

[hybrid gazelle]

Corkus fans be in shamble because their entirely questline focusing on the same shit as other region than something that actaully would be geniunely unique and intresting for the region

[solid fable]

yeah its just wynn but instead of corrupted u have mechs

I love the place and characters but the world leaves so much room

[edgy jungle]

cant wait for fruma to just be slavery focused

[hybrid gazelle]

I literally cant say shit about dwarves because they just dwarves

you cant really reinvent dwarves without taking the charm

I mean you can

but I dont see anyway wynncraft could have take

so I guess they now just the dogun oppressor the spieces I guess

[solid fable]

What is your favorite race

in Wynn craft

[hybrid gazelle]

none

[edgy jungle]

you had to take out the fun of this question, didn't you

[hybrid gazelle]

actually no funnily enough human is like

the most intresting spieces in wynncraft so far

funnily enought

here actaulyl different culture between human in different region

that actually make them intresting compare to like

elves and dwarves from generic fantasy 101

actually there al ot of sapient spieces in wynncraft

but most of htem barely even have right

[solid fable]

TRUE

ok r u counting the Corkians with the humans or separately

[hybrid gazelle]

well they are human so yes

[solid fable]

Good choice

[hybrid gazelle]

they are part of the reaosn why I find human intersting actaully

[solid fable]

I think the corkians are fantastic

[hybrid gazelle]

literally can we just remove all fantasy race and just have them all as human

actually that was a joke

[edgy jungle]

this is like saying the europeans arent humans

[hybrid gazelle]

I am sorry not everything can be peak literature as In Star and Time

[edgy jungle]

well, you'll be right in the case of the Fr*nch

but my point still stands

[hybrid gazelle]

a villager speak french which imply french is a language spoken by villager of a region

villager are not human

what does wynncraft mean by this

on topic of racism

I just gonna continue bringing this up because it never stop being funny

it will never stop being funny when you realize that while wynncraft try to teach you how racism is bad through the use of fictional races that literalyl do not exist irl

they still using irl sterotype for like humans in the game

that been talk to death but it probably the funniest detail in the entire setting

also more about ROL rewrite

NGL I think it very disappointing that parasite spawns does not really appear in ROL questline

which would at leat allow The Parasite to have presence without actaully have it to be there

I wish the spawns have been more play in the narrative of ROL mroe because the yare very underutilize in the right place for som e reason

they only shown in minor quests and never in main event

actaully they named hatcling but I gonna keep calling them spawns because I highly dbout they can grow anywhere beside being grape gusher

but yeah really wish they are more antagonistic forces in ROL storyline

I actaully dont really remember them appearing beside the last part of the quest

actually decay as a whole is not really brought up much

it kinda just odd actaully

[regal spire]

I’ll check it out in a bit, thanks

[obsidian bane]

how can this exist

isn't drale alive?

[grand pulsar]

Erm

Fruma spoiler?

Or maybe cow dudes shed their skin

[hybrid gazelle]

Item stuff get weird like that like I mean you can wear literal orc skin and nobody care lmao

[grand pulsar]

I think they mean that drale is a character that's definitely alive

[hybrid gazelle]

Yea thst what I am saying sometime item jsut exist for the sake of it

Or it just happen to name after drale I don’t know

[exotic bough]

if i had to guess this is a leftover from a confused farmer where drale wanted to be more cowlike and used that hide to do that

[regal spire]

This items been around for almost a decade, if I’m remembering correctly, so it could literally just be the old confused farmer’s coat, since Drale was just a villager at first

[feral drum]

i’d like to believe drale is just molting/ shedding his skin

[hallow kernel]

maybe its his fursuit idk

[shut hornet]

orphion was hardly relevant at that time lol

but even then some of their designs matched more with him

the sol embassy guys from old aldorei 2 mainly

[candid fox]

did orphion even exist

[shut hornet]

yes

he even had a design though it was a bit different to his modern one

[candid fox]

oh ok

[shut hornet]

he was supposed to be a boss but didnt get added until 5 years later

i pity anyone who never got to experience the masterpiece that was old rol

[candid fox]

i joined after gavel reborn 😞

[shut hornet]

my favourite part was the realm of light being sort of meant as an actual biome of its own but having a useless town with no soul and like no actual content within it beyond stuff for the quest + the lame raid teaser

(just a rock that says "coming soon" in viking runes)

[candid fox]

lmao

[shut hornet]

the quests were so bad that the reworks just deleted like most of the characters

what i will say though... the old finding the light was actually a great quest

im sad it no longer exists

[rotund gust]

rip the heliolux

[regal spire]

[Orphion] Lvl: 100
Weakness: Fire
Defense: Thunder Air
Mob model: Invisible charged creeper

Spells: charge, heavy explosion, heavy arrow storm

[rotund gust]

no pull spell? couldn’t be a pre 2.1 mob

[hybrid gazelle]

I love how sol embassy got turn into a task force which is like

So funny to me because the idea of elves having a task force

[rotund gust]

is there ever a chance at the heliolux coming back? Not even as a race but like… one character or as an enemy type if the RoL ever gets expanded

[hybrid gazelle]

They did

Just not outright mention of a name

[rotund gust]

right doesn’t the NoL raidkeeper use their design

[hybrid gazelle]

Nah I meant the angelic mobs in rol

[rotund gust]

oh

no i mean the heliolux like as they were

not just “angelic” creatures

[hybrid gazelle]

Oh I don’t think so lol

[rotund gust]

honestly it would be kinda cool to have them be like “ascended elves” or something. We don’t know what happened to prometheus as far as i’m aware

and they have their whole “grasp the light” thing

[hybrid gazelle]

Nah we know

He just died of old age

lol

[rotund gust]

granted aldorei secret says that they failed to grasp the light, but still

[hybrid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-king-shrek-gioated-gif-22410043

[rotund gust]

oh

damn that’s kinda lame, i’m looking at aldorei secret 2 rn

[hybrid gazelle]

Aldorei secrect is mega lame quest Ngl a lot of thing could make better

[rotund gust]

would be cooler if he got forcibly morphed into a light entity against his will and realized it wasn’t actually what he wanted

[rotund gust]

i mean that’s part of it just being related to the elves. Everything related to elves in wynn has problems somehow

not even because their elves it just keeps happening when their around

[hybrid gazelle]

It just generic plot of “elves fuck some shit up”

[rotund gust]

elves in general are fine but wynn elves cause problems both in universe and out of universe

[hybrid gazelle]

I literally can’t really see it add anything to wynncraft lore

Like I feel like it just suggest the entire story happen out of accident which is like

Okay

A way to like make everything just feel stupid

Would be nice huh if they change it Dern beast have some part in this

[rotund gust]

also just went to nexus, raid keeper isn’t a heliolux

closest we get is the potion merchant just being light particles

[hybrid gazelle]

Like idk maybe build up the major villain to be smart guy

[rotund gust]

orphion manipulating prometheus to open the portals so he can get more influence in gavel >_>

idk i’ve been fw the orphion is an invasive force to gavel theories a lot recently

[solid fable]

Rensa

[exotic yew]

what

[solid fable]

100% im calling it now rensa questline will go so hard

[rotund gust]

throwing around idea that could be cool. this is not a real thing

[exotic yew]

is this like new theory or something

ah

[rotund gust]

*would go hard

corkian separatist in general would be cool if they appeared more

[exotic yew]

I mean that still could be the case but the story right now painted him too innocent to be any smart

[rotund gust]

feathers fly 3, they use ava terrorism to try and spark war

[exotic yew]

mb I mean, too idiotic

[hybrid gazelle]

I prefer Dern beast because whenever they write Orphion, he just become bigger and bigger dimbass everytime

[rotund gust]

true. but wynn really could use some more moral nuance

[hybrid gazelle]

Literally brain degrade

[rotund gust]

cause it’s attempts at it right now are… realm of light 3&4

[exotic yew]

fuck moral nuance for a second, can we atleast make the supposed light god not look like a joke for a second

[rotund gust]

fair

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynncraft have this weird thing about their lore where they vague about it but give specific info thst make shit look bad for some reason even tho they can just not show thst info

[exotic yew]

no but like, what the fuck is Orphion game plan here LOL

[rotund gust]

i don’t think he has one

[exotic yew]

I still cannot see anything

like we're supposed to wanted to help him but at this rate shit is self-inflicting LOL

[rotund gust]

the only thing he actually does to maintain the balance he wants is put in the light obelisk

and even then it’s not really all that great

[exotic yew]

what the fuck does that thing even do other than gives people place to be other than SE

[rotund gust]

that

[exotic yew]

how does this gives him any advantages in this war

[rotund gust]

and there’s an area like the light forest under the obelisk

there’s corruption down there too

[exotic yew]

if it stops greg from advancing then maybe

like

what the fuck does this obelisk do LOL

all I see right now is Orphion is just standing there letting dern punch him and he just keep his guard up waiting for dern to breakthrough, worst part is we cannot see what is he trying to do here.

also his plan to provoke Lari in rol suck ass

he has to go through the most elaborate plan ever to just make make her questioned moral compass.

[warm flicker]

the Dern beast somehow managed to surprise attack a civilization that mastered TIME MAGIC and completely erradicate their presence from SE, meanwhile orphion made a giant glowstick in the middle of the wasteland

on the topic of time magic, the Olm quite possibly had the ability to see into the future as well as into the past, so the fact the Dern Beast caught the people who could see the future off guard is a massive deal

[hybrid gazelle]

Dern beast do all that and Orphion cant be bothered to give lari a instruction Manuel

[regal spire]

Orphion being completely unable to communicate would’ve made this massive blunder on his part make a lil more sense

But, both Beasts are intelligent, and reasoning/planning are not beyond them

[hybrid gazelle]

Except it not because Orphion jsut keep shooting him self in a foot for what extactly?

Like what is the end point here

[woven grove]

Why does the rat squeak so much

much needed lore

[pallid rain]

becuase it's a rat

[lone urchin]

Rat’s trying to tell you the secrets of the universe

[woeful vigil]

its cuz ur squishing the rat like a sqeaky toy

[wispy bay]

https://tenor.com/view/elio-lizard-button-gif-10528652411096742370

[chilly bluff]

guys who is remika

[raw badge]

Also if and when Fruma comes, I'm guessing there'd be a revamp of Recover The Past or something, but would it also be a requirement for the Fruman quests?

[regal spire]

My hope is for the fruma update to include an actually cohesive story line, so stuff like recover the past should be necessary

[raw badge]

Agreed, since it is a lvl 25 quest (and unlocks ability tree resets globally for the first time), I think its a pretty balanced requirement for Fruma, but idk if Fruma would be in 2026 (I don't mind 2026 tbh, we're barely in the final month Q3 2025 as is) but its determinant

[candid fox]

it was already revamped

[raw badge]

Alright

[hybrid gazelle]

Ajb also probably requirement

[drifting aurora]

we already reworked it semi recently specifically to build up to fruma lol

[rotund gust]

what’s up with the empty 5th island in the isles of fiction?

the one between the heros and bonfire islands

[mortal cave]

wait you can actually go here now

im stupid

[rotund sphinx]

Still nothing there

[mortal cave]

yeah

the exit of the building works

it warps you out of the building even though its already out of the building

[red dome]

They actually removed the interior of the building that used to be there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRxFavV0MLM&list=PLZnzCWilhEV12bO2osmalPrjWxLgwiW3j&index=2

Here's a video of the Interior if you wanted to see what it used to look like @mortal cave @rotund sphinx

[mortal cave]

how do you know...

[red dome]

(See video above) The building used to have an interior but at one point it was covered in barriers and repurposed by an admin as a prison for cheaters and it was just kind of left that way ever since. At least until recently

[mortal cave]

ic

[red dome]

Btw the "Official" name for this place is the Ternaves Prison

[regal spire]

My best bet is that it’s a remnant of whatever was there at the island. That, or it’s a possible 5th event, maybe even an open island for possible access to legacy minigames

[warm flicker]

no way they actually removed the barriers, this is big (this will have no impact on the gameplay at all)

[mortal cave]

fact checking this 🤓

[mortal cave]

it had the effect of making you go there

[warm flicker]

big things are coming to the ternaves prison, its going to be the actual entrance to fruma (real)

[red dome]

#📚lore_discussion message
#📚lore_discussion message

Here's where we were discussing it earlier

I thought I saw a mod mention that but I could be wrong

[mortal cave]

sounds about right

[regal spire]

Here’s to ternaves prison being given the random event treatment

[mortal cave]

ive always wanted a way to get in but now i sorta can

[warm flicker]

nah its actually where salted keeps all the content team so they can work on fruma

[red dome]

I like Thglpxl's idea lets turn it into a level 20 raid XD

[mortal cave]

theres nothing really in it to go off of for a raid

[woeful vigil]

There’s the warden that kinda exists

[red dome]

I mean they could make it a corrupted prison warden

[woeful vigil]

But with no history

[hybrid gazelle]

Ternaves creepy pasta

[regal spire]

I’m also not opposed to it being a team based, early game dungeon

[mortal cave]

😭

[woeful vigil]

Oh what’s the dealio with the warden?

[hybrid gazelle]

If you go to ternaves prison at 3 am

You can enter jt

[warm flicker]

wynncraft creepypasta: if u go to detlas at 3 am and scream "FREE MYTHICS" u will summon these entities known as "players" and u have to survive until the morning

[mortal cave]

also where did we get info of a warden at all

besides the fact its a prison ofc

[hybrid gazelle]

I think they meant

Lexdale prison

[mortal cave]

people keep getting them mixed up idk why

[hybrid gazelle]

lol yeah

[regal spire]

Holy creepypasta esq SD for ternaves prison???

Why haven’t they done anything like that?

[mortal cave]

almost like theyre both two mysterious prisons one of which you cant enter and the other to my knowledge you cant reenter

[red dome]

We should make up some lore right now and pressure the CT to make it cannon

[warm flicker]

insert the hallowynn mask salesman quest somewhere in the prison and id be happy

[mortal cave]

craftsmas chaos was peak and idec what ppl say

[hybrid gazelle]

Craftsman Choas literally the only quest that selchar has

[warm flicker]

NO BUT IT WAS

[mortal cave]

i love meeting timmy after the quest happens

[red dome]

This prison was once home to the most powerful, most evil prison warden in the whole Wynn province known as "Klemsic Humroama". This warden was incredibly brutal, villagers and humans alike were tortured with a terrible weapon named "The Basilisk Batter" as punishment for their actions. Every hall of the prison had spit, dirt and large pools of blood on the floor with the stench of puke roaming through the building. Painful screams echoed through every prison cell while the evil warden and the guards made sure none could escape. However after 256 years of being an active prison, the prisoners, prison guards and even the evil warden suddenly disappeared without a trace. Now the building is completely abandoned without the smallest sign of life, with the exception of broken furniture still visible through the boarded up windows. Some say that if you stand close to the front gate, you can still hear the former prisoners crying out for help, calling out for a hero traveling the Wynn province.

(Not Mine)

[regal spire]

It all honesty, we only have 1 real “horror” quest in the canary calls (grave mistake is not scary don’t fight it)

[mortal cave]

haven antiquity or whatever the one that gives you the siren helmet is

ngl i was scared during those hiding stages

[hybrid gazelle]

If you manage to enter ternaves prison

[warm flicker]

the twain graveyard quest and hollow serenity id consider to be horror-esc

[hybrid gazelle]

You will see secrect animation of Bak’al busting it down

With fully model cheek

Trust me it true

[warm flicker]

this is why salted needed all that money

[red dome]

How about hollow serenity?

[mortal cave]

yeah thats the one

i think i said the dead island quest 💀

[red dome]

[mortal cave]

i love the kander forest quests sm and not just cuz of dulla

they need to update the 'scary' quests a bit esp caritat mansion

[hybrid gazelle]

Evil spoon is a peak horror

[mortal cave]

ikr

[hybrid gazelle]

Watch your fucking mouth

[red dome]

Real

[mortal cave]

:<

[hybrid gazelle]

I fucking love how that quest contituvte literally fucking nothing

Also will take some hitatus from rol rewrite to avoid burnout

I peobably try to finish all concept art and pest control writing

Shit a lot of work than I expected

[mortal cave]

It gives like 2 hints of fluff for the rol questline story actually!

so so much

grians fav quest somehow

[hybrid gazelle]

It’s few questions that Dullahan get mention

[red dome]

Remember that video where he was showing it off?

[hybrid gazelle]

Grains fighting ct thst attempt to remake memory paranoid(they about to remove his evil spoon)

[mortal cave]

grain returning to wynn just to keep evil spoon

(is he still active whatsoever?)

[hybrid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-general-kai-po-grulla-mantis-gif-4437378422286251132

How grain come back to full time develop wynncraft the moment a ct try to touch memory paranoid

[red dome]

Last time I remember Grian and Jumla being mentioned they were both credited with "Emotional Support"

[mortal cave]

jumla returning to wynn just so he can spill coffee on the servers one last time

[regal spire]

It’s more tense with potentially morbid moments, rather than horror-esq. Like a deltarune vs an actual horror game sort of comparison.

[mortal cave]

i was shivering my timbers in the hiding section

dont even

[regal spire]

Canary calls builds itself up the entire time, especially with the added atmosphere from the journal entries. It’s made to be scary, until the boss fight

[mortal cave]

until the boss fight where u high facing against big bird from sesame street

[regal spire]

It’s also more subversive than what you would expect. Based on the first minecart section, you’d expect an exploration based puzzle quest

[hybrid gazelle]

Shoutout to witch trial quest to be literally anything but witch trial

[regal spire]

Instead, you fall deeper into the mine, the bird dying next to you, and wade further and further into the darkness until all culminating into one jump scare

[mortal cave]

fr

[regal spire]

It’s really well done, tbh, and I still get really anxious up to the jump scare

[warm flicker]

if i were to throw my hat in the ring, id explain the prison as something like this:

The first major victory against the Corruption came in 886 with Bob's successful defense of Ragni and the routing of Bakal. For the first time in many years, the forces of Wynn were on the offensive, but now they had many turncoats and traitors who had to be brought to justice. It was decided by the combined forces of Wynn to establish a prison near the abandoned mines, far from any existing towns. Over time, a settlement grew outside the prison walls, made up of prison staff and miners looking to strike rich - Ternaves. The prison itself would house many infamous traitors, as well as numerous corrupted individuals who wielded immense power. In 985, the prison faced its largest riot to date, with gangs of corrupted prisoners overtaking many parts of the prison. However, when militias from nearby Detlas arrived to relieve the prison guards, they found the complex completely emptied. No prisoners nor staff were seen, as though they all vanished. To this day, the prison remains abandoned, closed off from the rest of the world and seen as a sign of bad luck

[regal spire]

Hollow Serenity is more so a tragedy, amplified with morbid elements. An abandoned house with a mysterious past is bound to have some horror elements, as most topics attributed with ghosts are morbid

[mortal cave]

it scawy

[red dome]

Idk tho it does get kind of horror esq at the end when Garven gets killed

And then you're faced with a descision which if you answer wrong slaughters an entire village

[mortal cave]

the bossfight of that quest is a bit slept on ngl i thought it was rly good

[red dome]

Same

[mortal cave]

better than canary calls which is glazed
all the other parts of canary calls are good but the bossfight falls short imo

[regal spire]

I’d compare it to something like the princess and the frog, where the villains death is horrifying, but it doesn’t leave you with the feeling of the movie itself being a horror. It’s an animated film, taking little bits of different elements throughout. Now, I’m not saying that this movie and this quest are at all similar, in terms of themes, but the overall feeling of mystery, as well as a notable bit of despair leads it to being more properly fit as a tense, tragic mystery quest, rather than more angled as a horror quest

[woeful vigil]

Canary calls boss is depressing

[regal spire]

Grave mistake is more of a horror quest, tbh, than hollow serenity (as in grave mistake is a horrorible quest )

[hybrid gazelle]

Grave mistake feel like Sonic.exe

[regal spire]

It was a grave mistake making this quest

(Also, they up and removed a mob that has NEVER been recorded from the quest)

[mortal cave]

grave mistake was cool and creepy when i was young and then second playthrough its the lamest thing oat

[mortal cave]

they what?

[regal spire]

It was only cool because of the armorstand tech, which inspired me to make my own type of animations and cool lil builds

[regal spire]

There used to be a sort of hanging man by the fence post that hung over a cauldron, basically straight off to the right of the entrance of the graveyard/starting area of the quest.

[mortal cave]

I REMEMBERTHAT

[regal spire]

I’m so happy I’m not the only one, istg I thought I made it up

It showed up ONCE and never again

[mortal cave]

i wouldve never noticed it was gone ngl

[regal spire]

I think they removed it because it went against the overall design of the quest

[red dome]

I honestly think it would be awesome to connect Ternaves prison with Dern, Imagine: everyone from the prison simply disappeared without a trace one day in a flash of light that welded all the doors and hinges shut. The event is hardly talked about even by the miners of Ternaves, who saw the prison as a blight on their town. The event was ignored and supressed by the Wynn Military who had more pressing matters to deal with. (Namely the spread of the curruption). To this day visitors of Ternaves are told to steer clear of the prison as no one who has investigated has ever returned. If the player decides to investigate they enter the prison and by exploring the prison finds a dernic crystal on the warden's desk.

[regal spire]

A single SE discovery that is entirely cut away from SE, showcasing how darkness has found its way through Wynn, even in subtle ways? Don’t mind if I do

Actually, nah, make it a Wynn discovery, it’s a bit too obscure for an SE one

[red dome]

Yeah

[regal spire]

or, OR, have it be only accessible at certain times of the day, make it as creepypasta and weirdly ??? Specific as possible

I want it to feel like you aren’t supposed to be there

[red dome]

That would be awesome, what if in order to get inside the prison you had to collect rumors around Ternaves and the Black Trail Mining town.

[regal spire]

Maybe have it tied to SE by needing specific interactions from Dren to help you figure out what exactly is in there

[mortal cave]

that whole abandoned mines area has so much more potential

i mean it connects to se the canyon and the corrupted portal are we serious

[red dome]

Also if you wanted to add a secret bossfight what if there was a lesser Eyefolk inside of the prison who slaughtered the entire cellblock

It would build up SE and it would kinda add scaling since the boss for a lower level would be a normal mob for higher levels

[regal spire]

More dernic creatures having escaped experimentation and containment??? Don’t mind if I do

I’d love for the prison to be a holding facility for creatures of dark, and for experimenting on them

[mortal cave]

yeah honestly a lesser eyefolk with barely any changes is a good boss mob for low level

[regal spire]

Give it another mage island type thing, with it touching up on more eye related entities, rather than strictly dernic

Maybe a silent observer, one just sitting there, until being provoked by hunger or something

[red dome]

Here's another idea, what if the warden was secretly a Dernic Eyecultist and he experimented on the prisoners?

[red dome]

That would be sick...

[regal spire]

There could be tons of dead, half eaten eyefolk, dernic dudes, etc with a single, malnourished creature, beaten and desperate, just sitting there

[red dome]

Maybe we could get more eyefolk lore?

[regal spire]

Could be a really friggen cool clock mystery/??? type of discovery

[red dome]

Fr

[regal spire]

We’ve got a lot of cool eyefolk lore, actually, but it’s not really readily available in game

[red dome]

I just hope they don't remove the prison at this point, theres so much that can be done with it

[regal spire]

You gotta go to the wiki/ask selvut and lexnt (I think)

[red dome]

Do selvut and lexnt giveaway lore thats not in-game?

[drifting aurora]

i dont have anything to do with eyefolk

[regal spire]

Yeah, they’ve got a majority of the concepts out there, but not all of it is easy to decipher in game

[red dome]

Have you just been watching this whole conversation?

[drifting aurora]

no i just popped in

[red dome]

Ah ok

[dim plover]

Hi what’s up everyone

I too just popped in

What’s the context

[red dome]

We talking about Ternaves prison

[dim plover]

(I’m Purple)

[red dome]

Wait Thepurpleemerald?

[drifting aurora]

im generally happy to talk about lore id like to get ingame properly

[dim plover]

Click my profile

[drifting aurora]

your name is white

[regal spire]

Couldn’t remember if you did something in there, what else have you made, lore wise? I only recall TLS, right now, and want to have a more accurate picture

[dim plover]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/breakingbad/images/c/c0/WaltS5.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20120620012205

(Disclaimer I know nothing about Breaking Bad)

[drifting aurora]

ive had a hand in lots of stuff

[dim plover]

I just know it exists

[red dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316978886087016449/554941841267490818/image0.gif

[drifting aurora]

holy crap yahya killed bob

[dim plover]

How the hell did I know what the gif was going to be when it was in its blurry loading state

[red dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262010576295821312/653135898333937684/image0.gif

[dim plover]

I haven’t seen it in more than a year how was that immediately recognizable what the hell

[red dome]

Was it your first creation?

[dim plover]

Back when I was restricted to filming on my phone because I didn’t know how to record on a PC

[regal spire]

My first preview to purps creations was Dullahan, as well as the Aledar tree

[dim plover]

That and I didn’t know how to script cutscenes so I had to reset all NPCs via the NPC wand

[red dome]

Is there any planned lore for the Ternaves prison/Black Road Mining town?

[drifting aurora]

nope

[dim plover]

My skills have gotten relatively better though

[regal spire]

Which means it’s potential is limitless*

[drifting aurora]

well black road mining town is functionally part of ternaves i think

[dim plover]

And I am working on it as we speak

[dim plover]

Idk what my first (Wynncraft) creation is

But it was probably still involving the Custom NPCs Mod

[drifting aurora]

id say the mining town is moreso a relic of the past at this point, serving a different function

ternaves used to be a mining town, but it isn't in the present day

i'm sure we'll do something with the prison someday

[dim plover]

Oh shoot I remember that one

[regal spire]

What exactly is ternaves? A checkpoint? A more farming originated Savannah town? A smithing town? Horses?

Feels like a checkpoint with a smaller speciality in horse breeding

[red dome]

This is my favorite thing you've ever done

[dim plover]

Aledar Tree
Erm I think you mean pre-reskinned Deathbright Miniboss

[regal spire]

All I remember of it was that you had a lot of aledars (I think one was in a dress)

[drifting aurora]

stolen joke smh,..... i did it first with ???

actually did i have that in the first blizzard

i must have

[dim plover]

I wish I can make more fan content

I think my latest batch of Wynncraft creations is the Lava gifs

That or this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262010576295821312/1378956841802928199/derncutscene.gif?ex=68845ca2&is=68830b22&hm=eb4b283e88e5b7c6232dc53e4e089edd1e626600a16ac8cebef5639f5b0b79e8&

Which is still a pretty damn long time ago, all things considered

[drifting aurora]

no you definitely did something after this gif

i feel like

[dim plover]

In developing systems that allow me to make these every few days, I spent months doing nothing

[drifting aurora]

unless this was a remaster of an old version

[regal spire]

(This is a really pretty environment, btw)

[dim plover]

It is yeah

[drifting aurora]

not a fan of lari corpse, can i say

[dim plover]

This is the old one

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/262010576295821312/1223517341456011264/derncutscene.gif?ex=67719312&is=67704192&hm=e11a9283e02a3c2dd1e7d8e5158242f4455a90d81bf553f190b434df06e6c6c1&

[regal spire]

Lari corpse would be a pretty harrowing start to Dern

[dim plover]

It’s funny

Ok no it isn’t
But the entire gif is designed to make the contextless cutscene generate as many questions as possible

[red dome]

So has the Wynn Province known about the lost miners or was that only recently discovered?

[drifting aurora]

shrug

[dim plover]

Questions like

“Huh?”

and

“Wut?”

[red dome]

I think half of the server would riot

[drifting aurora]

there was a bonfire bit of text for ternaves, i forget what specifically it says

[dim plover]

and “Why is Dern Beast female”

[warm flicker]

the SE miners? They disappeared like 2000 years ago, i doubt any civilization in Wynn today was around back then to notice

[dim plover]

I’ve only just realized I’m derailing Ternaves convo

(Idk Ternaves lore)

[warm flicker]

ternaves has little to no lore

at least from what i know

[dim plover]

Actually it has big secret lore

The blacksmith might be a descendant of Dern Beast

(This implies that Dern Beast is canonically really bad at naming)

[red dome]

Wait wut

[dim plover]

But yeah no isn’t Ternaves just the funny horse town

With the prison that probably has some lore that doesn’t have time to be developed and added into the game yet

[dim plover]

Dren

The small settlement he’s in doesn’t have a name so I kinda just tied it to Ternaves

Which is like a hundred blocks away

[drifting aurora]

it is ternaves basically

[red dome]

It's called the black Road mining town but yeah it's just a part of Ternaves

[drifting aurora]

Life is quiet, in the town. Though it was built off of the framework of mining operations of years past, little of that culture still remains.
...There are, however, ghosts still buried in its roots. Death came for the miners, as the mineshafts crumbled. Never mourned, never honored.

[hybrid gazelle]

Ternaves funny horse???

Uma reference???

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-horsing-around-uma-musume-haru-urara-walk-haru-urara-silly-gif-7688255157255526510

[drifting aurora]

think that should answer your question about wynn finding out about em @red dome

[dim plover]

At this point would Ternaves Prison be anything remotely interesting to us

They would either have to connect it to the bigger story or introduce an entire Ternaves storyline

[red dome]

Yeah good point

[dim plover]

It’s such a shame that a lot of stuff is sort of left unseen mostly because the Realm lore is far more appealing to obsess about

[drifting aurora]

i think my favorite bits of lore i've worked on aren't ingame yet unfortunately

[red dome]

I like the idea we put forward where you can connect it to SE

[dim plover]

ah yes of course

take all the Time you need

[hybrid gazelle]

Can you confirm if you can enter Ternaves prison at 3 am

Please Lexnt wynncraft

[dim plover]

3 am
The boss will be Spongebob Amongsus from the hit indie game Friday Night Funkin

(Not clickbait gone wrong??!?)

[drifting aurora]

first, you must find the truck at the harbor. if you look beneath it, you will find a creature most mythical, never before seen by man

[hybrid gazelle]

Damn I am a man

[warm flicker]

ternaves prison is actually a super secret olmic facility housing paranormal and supernatural entities that they secure, contain, and protect from the rest of the world

[regal spire]

You can take 6 shuckles down to the truck to get into ternaves prison

[drifting aurora]

i really like the bonfire place dialogues

[dim plover]

Fool! I do not have this weakness!

[red dome]

Aren't the olm basically extinct?

[drifting aurora]

they were a way to slip in tidbits of lore that i want to establish that i couldnt prior

[dim plover]

(I am a horse)

[hybrid gazelle]

Yes and no

Some of them still alive

Like that guy from tempo town

[regal spire]

Bonfire festival has a very specific kind of warmth it it ()

[warm flicker]

guy from tempo town, garvan, and some olm in the dernel jungle still survive

[drifting aurora]

When the sky split open and the ground cracked and splintered a thousand years ago, dwarven rule over the canyon came to an end. The strongholds of the south were crushed and buried, leaving only the northernmost one standing.
The countless lives lost were remembered and honored, for a time. But soon, the dwarves traveled eastward, and replaced their history with the new heroes and conquests of the Heights.

[red dome]

The Bremminglar one made me feel bad for all those bandits I killed

[hybrid gazelle]

Garvan is an olm???

Or you mean Garoth

[warm flicker]

guh sorry meant garoth

[hybrid gazelle]

Dwarves loreee

[warm flicker]

damn imagine if garvan was an olm

[regal spire]

The dialogue, regardless of its morbid nature, feels like a story book by the fireplace, where grandpa would have you on your lap, rock you back and forth on his chair, and tell of the lives he and grandma would live, regardless if the story itself has a positive morel to it

[hybrid gazelle]

Also Lexnt

Have you heard of the umbrae

[drifting aurora]

the what

The fateful voyage of discovery was not the first attempt to cross the raging oceans. Many people over thousands of years set off to seek a better future... and yet, all fell to the waves.
The final voyage is remembered, yet the others are not.

[hybrid gazelle]

Dern beast minions

I homebrew them to be counterpart of heliolux

[drifting aurora]

In the chaos following the Equinox, many dissenting voices were exiled from Aldorei. Some found refuge in the forests, guided by fairies to their new home.
Not all were so lucky. As winter fell, and the gates remained closed, those outside the forest refuge fell to the elements. Only later, when the bodies were found, would Aldorei regret their decision.

[hybrid gazelle]

The dernic gang pull up

They even have aircraft carrier

[rain saffron]

these are so cool!

[red dome]

Wait this reminds me, when was airship technology invented? Because if it was before the villagers crossed the Ocean why didn't they just use an Airship?

[drifting aurora]

airships existed prior, but not exactly as they are now

a regular ship has the means to survive a prolonged time on the waves, i feel

[hybrid gazelle]

Are not even today, airship only use by the wealthy?

[drifting aurora]

an airship does not

[hybrid gazelle]

The villager who discover Wynn are all poor so they probably can’t even use airship at those time

[drifting aurora]

i like to imagine the skyraiders invented the airship as a way to adapt to their new environment of the sky islands, and that technology was stolen by the gavellian monarchy for their own uses

[hybrid gazelle]

I like this

[regal spire]

Technically, they weren’t poor, they just lost their money in the crash

[drifting aurora]

but none are as proficient in piloting airships as the skyraiders

[hybrid gazelle]

Omg it would fit with timeline since ashmord take over stuff

[hybrid gazelle]

They literally state to be lowerclass lol

They are in fact poor people

[drifting aurora]

i've got some extra thoughts on how to make the skyraiders fit better into the lore

[regal spire]

How’d they get that big ole treasure hoard, though?

Bunch of buried treasure in their ship

[warm flicker]

also ik u said the dwarves have basically no distinction between each town they have, but i noticed some (very) subtle details.

Thanos is the oldest of the Holds still inhabited, as such it is full of historians and archaeologists looking to uncover the history of the Dwarves. They are relatively isolated from the rest of the world, and are very much traditionalists

Rodoroc is the largest of the Holds, and the most cosmpolitan. After the conclusion of the Second Dogun-Dwarf war, Rodoroc society rapidly changed to become more accepting of the Doguns. Rodoroc dwarves are generally more tolerant, even if slums exist in their hold

Maex is the most economically-minded Hold. Having the Resource mines, Maex makes a good amount of money from selling mine passes. There is also a massive black market located within Maex, selling everything from organs to poisons to slaves. Maex is the most economic, and corrupt, Hold

[hybrid gazelle]

Underwater quest is old

[hybrid gazelle]

What no I never say that for dwarves

[dim plover]

Don’t people dislike her

[drifting aurora]

hence half

[red dome]

Honestly I feel like that's needed, as of now they kind of seem like they exist only in their one quest and aren't really connected with everything else

[dim plover]

Or at least a majority

[red dome]

Yes but she has a cult following

[warm flicker]

thought u mentioned something about how theres no flavor in the dwarves

[regal spire]

Actually, I’ve been wondering this for a really long time, but has it been disclosed that Dern’s storyline has been finished at all? Or is it still being developed

[warm flicker]

its the people who do like her u gotta worry about

[hybrid gazelle]

I mean yeah cause they still textbook dwarves I just don’t really point it out much as elves because elves habe potential to be unique while dwarves does not really

[dim plover]

Is this under the assumption that airships back then either have a low maximum flight altitude or that the waves were really that freaky to reach miles up

Am I misinterpreting this

[drifting aurora]

an airship cannot fly forever

[hybrid gazelle]

Dwarves are dwarves, in wynncraft context they don’t have chance to be unique interpretations of them

[dim plover]

I assume that airships back then just can’t hold enough to make it across provinces then

Makes sense

[drifting aurora]

i'm sure some people tried to send airships across the ocean

it certainly never worked

[hybrid gazelle]

“Cult following” and it just people sensible enough to not over hate a fictional character

I am sorry but this is just straight up misinform consider the fact people out there ovessessibely hate lari more than biggest lari fan I met

[warm flicker]

in lore why was there a big kraken or something making the ocean impassible? Was it having a bad day?

[dim plover]

(Still trying to figure out the exact year oceans were calmed)

(Llevigar Discovery says villagers left at like exactly 900 and that’s the closest we got)

[drifting aurora]

the way to do it is to have the skyraiders be a melting pot of cultures and races. villagers, elves, dwarves- hell, even some orcs, maybe- anyone who wanted to escape their previous life, all coming together to carve out a space for themselves. the group started as survivors of the fracturing, but later grew into something much larger than that

[red dome]

I have no strong feelings one way or the other tbh

[dim plover]

Uh oh

Uhhhhhhhhh

Ummmmmmmmmmm

I

Apologize?

[hybrid gazelle]

Yet you still use the word “cult following”

[drifting aurora]

it's a mystery

[dim plover]

That was fanmade lore

That was me lol

Whoops

[drifting aurora]

the cause of the waves isn't established in lore yeah

there's some various rumors and in-world theories about it

nothing concrete

[red dome]

I mean if you've seen a specifci thread on this discord I don't know how to describe that any other way

[dim plover]

I came up with the Kraken because cool overarching ocean antagonist

That I can use to literally tie together every single Wynncraft ocean content

[hybrid gazelle]

You do realize most of people there like lari fan club are mostly exist to ragebait lari haters

Who are easily rage bait

Due to their obessession

[regal spire]

Honestly, I’m just interested in whether or not Dern beast has a set in stone design, yet. 1.19 gave us a pair of arms and an eye, but those arms always felt dragon like (Imo, id hope that wouldn’t be the case)

[drifting aurora]

i will say i have found extreme lari haters to be more unpleasant than extreme lari lovers, from experience

anyhow. worldbuilding is fun

[red dome]

I heard a rumor that the dern beast was originally going to be the ender dragon

[regal spire]

We all thought that, even before gavel

[drifting aurora]

not even sure if thats true

[hybrid gazelle]

Lexnt what you think of my army of black blob

[drifting aurora]

looks cool

[hybrid gazelle]

Thanks you

Do you want me to send them your way

[warm flicker]

speaking of, do u also subscribe to the theory that the Olmic civilization in SE was destroyed in 1400 BP?

[regal spire]

Is there any specific reason why the ender dragon model has never been used?

[drifting aurora]

um

no comment?

[drifting aurora]

theres just not a good place to use it

like. its not really something that fits

[warm flicker]

olmic history is too niche not even content team knows

[regal spire]

Fair enough, it’s a bulky, goofy model

[warm flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585

[drifting aurora]

well no thats not what i mean

i say no comment because thats not something i want to comment on since i know things

[hybrid gazelle]

OLMIC LORE

WARGHHH

[warm flicker]

oh theres an actual answer

[red dome]

Oh I'm not saying that the haters are any better I'm just saying that there is some sort of weird obsession with the character as a whole

[regal spire]

I’m surprised it wasn’t used back then, tbh. The ender dragon would’ve fit in for ToA, hilariously

[drifting aurora]

Over a hundred years ago, great burning fires engulfed the woods. The village was evacuated, but many remained to hold off the encroaching forces, and to buy others time.
As the rain fell, and the flames extinguished, all that remained of the village was a greatly burned, but still standing tree. A symbol for the survivors.

this one isnt really anything you cant figure out through environmental storytelling but Yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

CT watching as someone type command spawn ender dragon to ruin their entire build

[warm flicker]

actually, if u look at the big tree in the center of Alekin, u can notice some burn patches on the tree's interior

[red dome]

Do you know how/if Tasim dies?

[regal spire]

Lmao, I always thought that the tech they had back then couldn’t get rid of the enderdragons innate destruction mechanic

[hybrid gazelle]

yes weirdly obessessed on hating her LMAO

[drifting aurora]

yeah he trips down the stairs and gets crushed by an anvil

[warm flicker]

choked on a cherry tomato in Cinfras

[hybrid gazelle]

on other end of spectrum there people just objectify Lari only because she is a woman

[drifting aurora]

Though they deemed her an outcast - someone who would not be missed... the village seemed just a little emptier without her presence.
None would say it aloud, though all were thinking it... perhaps they had made a mistake. Too little, too late.

this isnt lore this is just me being annoyed by maltic's well

[hybrid gazelle]

but most of these people are barely consider fan because they dont really give a shit about Lari as character

[warm flicker]

wait YOU wrote the bonfire messages?

[red dome]

Honestly its almost as bad as aledar flinging himself into a spikey obsidian wall

[regal spire]

We killed a random woman, real

[drifting aurora]

With the rogue intelligence destroyed, and Corkus saved from rogue mechs, the people pay no mind to the loss of something already thought destroyed.
All except for one. He does not mourn its loss as he would another person... but he feels it nonetheless.
A loss of potential, perhaps. That is what he will choose to tell himself. He will not truly believe it.

this is a good one

[warm flicker]

yet another Ragni guard W

[drifting aurora]

ya

[regal spire]

Then again, she was kinda asking for it by hitting me with bottles

[dim plover]

I wrote an entire paragraph of how the Kraken’s behind everything but it’s been like five minutes since I’ve started and the conversation has already passed too long for fanmade content

I’ll just put it as a spoilered image

[drifting aurora]

do it

[warm flicker]

if i may ask, who was the person who is mentioned here, Cerid?

[drifting aurora]

well im not gonna tell you. come to your own conclusions

[red dome]

How long does it take you to make your wynn content?

[hybrid gazelle]

CERID

[red dome]

It's gotta be Cerid

[hybrid gazelle]

HE EXISXT

I THINK

[hybrid gazelle]

Do you think somewhere Nilrem and Cerid having tea party

along with other named lore character that never appear

[drifting aurora]

i dont think those two have ever met

[hybrid gazelle]

THEY ARE TO ME

Also Ragnar is there

[regal spire]

Don’t forget flamingo rider number 3

[drifting aurora]

i remember ragnar

[hybrid gazelle]

oooo.... I miss my take on Nilrem...

like

[red dome]

Ragnar has entered the chat

[hybrid gazelle]

he suppose to be the villager that being one of the first to bring magical knowledge to human

[regal spire]

Wait, are people from Wynn called wynnic? Or wynnians?

[hybrid gazelle]

like he is their main supplier

wynnic

they mostly use wynnic

wynnic people

wynnic language

[red dome]

Ragnar should show up as a corrupted or smth

[drifting aurora]

we gotta get fruma done first man

[hybrid gazelle]

Bro dont even appear and you want him dead 💀

[warm flicker]

WE GETTING DERN BY 2100!!!

[red dome]

I'd assume people from wynn are called humans

[drifting aurora]

its kinda funny. bonfire ends up feeling the more melancholy of the two festivals focused on the dead, whereas spirits is a lot more... energetic? i guess?

[hybrid gazelle]

but villagers live there tho

and corkus and fruma have humans

we should have wynnic human

wynnic villager

corkian human

fruman human

[drifting aurora]

i feel like "wynnian" sounds the most correct?

[hybrid gazelle]

gavelian villager

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah but like I dont think wynnian ever use in the game

only wynnic LOL

[dim plover]

Still hate that we’re stuck with villagers

I will never let that go

[drifting aurora]

the shackles that bind

[warm flicker]

if possible id love to see what u cook up with other characters, like that dialogue between Korzim, Zuett, and Garutt

[red dome]

Wdym?

[hybrid gazelle]

CTs realizing they have to rewrite 50+ quest dialogue if they were to remove villager

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-walter-heisenberg-crawl-space-gif-19584363

[drifting aurora]

youve gotta understand that changing villagers at this point would be an astronomical amount of work

[dim plover]

It’s the only Minecraft-original thing that Wynncraft cannot get rid of, solely because of the fact that take up almost 50% of the game’s population

They got rid of creepers, endermen, the nether

[hybrid gazelle]

CTs really want to remove villagers because of what they are

[regal spire]

It’s really interesting, because it isn’t often that summer is attributed to death. It’s a period of opportunity, where the fruits of spring are taken and reveled, enjoyed. It’s the most ample time of year to live, making it an interesting opposite to winter, where the same kind of leisure and rest is experienced, but it is through conservation and a fight for survival.

[dim plover]

But they can’t purge the Villagers

[drifting aurora]

creepers still exist

[hybrid gazelle]

sadly

[dim plover]

Okay asides from that one cave, I forgot lol

[red dome]

I was gonna say Creepers were still here lol

[dim plover]

They were removed from RoL so my mind just kinda blanked it out

[hybrid gazelle]

but creeper is easier to remove comparte to villager LOL

Lexnt

what if I like

Beg Madeline really hard to make devil model to replacepigmen

[regal spire]

You don’t see summer depicted as a moment to remember, which is something more attributed to autumn, as the world changes, things slowly die, and the preparation for winter is a top priority

[hybrid gazelle]

so you can replace all pigmen model and rename it to Devil ravine

[drifting aurora]

you can certainly try

[red dome]

I kinda like the fact that creepers are still here as a mythical beast

[hybrid gazelle]

alright

brb

[drifting aurora]

selvut wrote this one, not me

[dim plover]

Wynncraft can try their best to make Corruption not look like the Nether but they’re not going to succeed lmao

[drifting aurora]

it is a good one though

[dim plover]

Even now you can look at Roots of Corruption and go like “Oh cool it’s Wynncraft’s version of the Nether”

[drifting aurora]

the famous nether obsidian spikes

[warm flicker]

i see the summer as the height of the year - winter is far gone, the planting season in spring is over, all that is left is to wait for the harvest in fall. With all that spare time, it would make sense for Wynn to dedicate a holiday of remembrance during the summer

[drifting aurora]

like youre not necessarily wrong purple but i think we've still gotta try

[warm flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-8675616492999829547

[drifting aurora]

just throwing up our hands and going "welp its never gonna happen" is silly and pointless

[dim plover]

Anything not explicitly from Minecraft will easily be chalked up to Wynncraft just adding their own original content to the Nether

[red dome]

I honestly don't hate the fact that wynn still has some Minecrafty elements, it is built in minecraft after all

[dim plover]

Mostly because the fiery aesthetic and purple portal are still there

[drifting aurora]

so i dont really like the framing around that

[regal spire]

Corruption only feels like the nether because it’s in Minecraft, and Minecraft started stealing Wynn’s look in other games

[warm flicker]

Theorick after entering the corruption portal, 500s AP (colorized)

[dim plover]

At least RoL doesn’t look like the Aether

[regal spire]

Dungeons and that stupid strategy game they made are just straight up stealing shit from Wynn

[drifting aurora]

we're making the changes we want to and i think they're moving in a good direction

[dim plover]

(I can’t wait for Dern to be a large island with 10 tall Monoliths in a ring)

[red dome]

LOL

[dim plover]

(Yes, you have to fight 5 Your Reflections)

[hybrid gazelle]

okay guys I have bad news

I failed

I afraid I have to end my own

[drifting aurora]

expected

[regal spire]

I can’t wait for Dern island to come back, and 100 enderman will storm my 1.7 boat

[hybrid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-movie-fall-falling-meme-gif-24396824

[dim plover]

I can’t wait for Bak’al to reveal that he was a double agent this whole time

[drifting aurora]

man what other interesting lore is there to talk about

[red dome]

A part of me wants to see what modern content like fruma would've looked like if it was made today

[warm flicker]

have u heard of the Olmic ruined sites along the coast of Wynn?

[red dome]

I just have to go off of the Fruma gates

[dim plover]

(No one from the nightmare that is the Corruption and an ally for the most Lovecraftian force in the universe can look this pathetic lol)

[drifting aurora]

nope, which ones are you referring to

[hybrid gazelle]

can we talk about how santa is canon to wynncraft and I really wanna remake santa into viking

[regal spire]

There’s that one mage cave near the entrance of fruma that houses, what I assume to be, exiled humans from fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

that shit would be so kick ass

[drifting aurora]

thats a fun take

my take on santa is he's the warlock who froze the ice islands

[dim plover]

I get that he’s probably really op and all that but until Wynncraft’s new cutscenes do him justice he’s just some guy

[hybrid gazelle]

Imagine him flying on a viking ship and deliever present

Omg

viking warlock

imagine

[regal spire]

Also, Santa lore rework please, I hate Christmas land

[warm flicker]

theyre located at (1124, 2420) and (1354, -2553)

[hybrid gazelle]

Turning Santa into fucking odin

[red dome]

Who Bak'al?

[regal spire]

Also, why isn’t Santa helping the corruption, the loon

[hybrid gazelle]

How santa gonna pull up when Bak'a return

[dim plover]

If you rework Santa lore can you make it so that he has the ability to shoot fireballs

[drifting aurora]

you are missing a negative somewhere in the first one

[regal spire]

He’s literally a magical ice man, pull a Theorick and actually do something instead of giving fuck all garbage gifts to children

[warm flicker]

in essense, they are both stone buildings in ruined states, but their styles are very similar to confirmed Olmic sites

[hybrid gazelle]

no but he can shoot snowballs

it JOLLY t

[dim plover]

Specifically ones that can target groups of people

[hybrid gazelle]

I remake ice island people in my take as originate from people of Nemract

[warm flicker]

oops think i meant -2420

[drifting aurora]

defiled explorer

what makes you say these are olmic sites specifically

[regal spire]

If Santa shows up to fight annihilation as a one time event for the blizzard festival, that’d be incredible

[warm flicker]

i wrote up a whole document about this let me get it up

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynncraft lore if Santa lock the fuck in(He solo Bak'al)

[red dome]

I think Theorick killed a bunch of people when he froze Nessak

[regal spire]

Please, have him fly in on a sled and just go “Someone’s been Naughty! Go back to Ho-ho-hell!”

[hybrid gazelle]

A bunch ois underestimate

he killed A LOT OF PEOPLE

I dont even know how there any left to rebuild nesaak

there literally no way a single person survive

[dim plover]

0 people got the reference :(

[drifting aurora]

i will forever sit on the headcanon that mael took in refugees from nesaak into his mansion

[hybrid gazelle]

2 fucking bunkers been frozen solid like brother in chirst where do I hide

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah this make most sense

[warm flicker]

found it

[regal spire]

I’ve seen exactly 30 seconds of this movie

[drifting aurora]

its not even originally mine, i stole it from someone else

[hybrid gazelle]

that one fic save us again

[drifting aurora]

🙏

[hybrid gazelle]

I really need to read requiuem

[red dome]

That's smart

[hybrid gazelle]

I just like

did not have time to

I need to finish hive drabble first

[regal spire]

Mael stayed and tended the manor, he had to have done something after Theorick

[dim plover]

Explains why his house has so many phantoms

[regal spire]

He lived for quite a while, too, just waiting for Bob alone

[drifting aurora]

speaking of the freezing of the tundra. lusuco is really fucking weird

[hybrid gazelle]

Also Lexnt

do you remember when like

[red dome]

Real

[hybrid gazelle]

you ask what Lusco is in Wartorn?

[drifting aurora]

no but that sounds like something i would do

[hybrid gazelle]

You did you literalyl did tag me about it

[warm flicker]

why is there so little lore surrounding lusoco?

[hybrid gazelle]

wtf you mean LMAOOO

[drifting aurora]

i got bad memory

[red dome]

They live next to a Tower with a fake Grim Reaper

[hybrid gazelle]

Fair enough

[warm flicker]

shouldnt we have heard something about them during the Theorick questline?

[hybrid gazelle]

also here

I make the town into this anti-theorick community

I Guess

Wait

[drifting aurora]

yea that works

[hybrid gazelle]

I think I forgot to wrote that

but yeah

that what I have in mind for Lusuco

[warm flicker]

and arent all the people in lusoco basically sentient ice statues at this point

[hybrid gazelle]

it just split community from Nesaak

[hybrid gazelle]

that just CT fucking around

it does not have lore significant

[drifting aurora]

there was at some point going to be lore around that

i think frost bite wouldve involved it

but the quest went a different direction

[regal spire]

Lusuco feels really weird, since it’s where Theorick lives, by his manor, and it’s where people who were directly associated with Theorick are shown to have died (a body with his house key in a random cave)

[hybrid gazelle]

@drifting aurora here more info

[drifting aurora]

i really really do not like theorick's mansion

[dim plover]

I hope this doesn’t sound mean but I have not read any word-only content Trashie posts in images lol

[regal spire]

But, it’s very hidden, in terms of its connection to Wynn, but it’s also got a festival town and ice skating rink/hockey rink

[dim plover]

Like, ever

[drifting aurora]

it feels super out of character

[regal spire]

I despise frost bite, genuinely the worst quest in the game

[hybrid gazelle]

I still fucking baffle

[drifting aurora]

not sure id go that far but it isnt great

[hybrid gazelle]

Oh no I never expect you to read mine so I was not surpirse

anyway

[dim plover]

(My attention span will not allow it)

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah Theorick's mansion was

something

[dim plover]

There’s no pictures :(

(/j)

[regal spire]

It overstays its welcome for the kind of quest you’d expect, the manor is a huge turn off from the character Theorick is shown to be, and it’s got a crap puzzle with zero strategy to it

[hybrid gazelle]

If I have picture in my wartorn project doc

I would haev fucking die

[drifting aurora]

skill issue

[hybrid gazelle]

like

I literally would have die

[drifting aurora]

you know skill is silk rearranged with an extra L

[regal spire]

It’s also got such a weird theme, with traps that activate when you insult him, ghostly butlers, zero theme overall beyond it being an abandoned home

[warm flicker]

anyway heres my Olmic timeline from what i could gather and what i theorized

[red dome]

Hey Lexnt, is Rymek a town of Theives because it sits right up against the Silent expanse?

[hybrid gazelle]

I stilll think what baffle to me is that

FUCKING EPPO

THE EPPO OF FROSTBITE

HAVE FANARTS

Wtf you mean this fucking NPC have fanart since fucking when

[drifting aurora]

what? no

rymek is a town of thieves and bandits because thats the culture that rose up out of the fall of the desert empire

[regal spire]

I think it’s a town of thieves because a bunch of thieves went into the canyon, a generally uninhabited sector of Wynn

[red dome]

I was thinking maybe Dernic influence had something to do with that

[drifting aurora]

in the desert, especially immediately following hashr's fuckup, you dont really have room to care about anyone other than you and your own

[regal spire]

Now, they can crime it up in the canyon, maintaining their culture

[hybrid gazelle]

Do you think it would be interesting if rymek have history of trading Corkian tech illegally through smugggling and its market?

[warm flicker]

wasnt rymek established by deserters from Wynn's armies looking to escape corruption?

[drifting aurora]

can you pull up a source

[dim plover]

We are going close to the whole “Silent Expanse is Wynn territory” conversation again

[drifting aurora]

honestly i really dont like the thought that SE influence is creeping into rymek, because it's just really messy for lore stuff

i don't think it adds anything at all

[regal spire]

I never considered the fact that dubious individuals would’ve run to the Mesa to escape. Figured they were just talking about how they were born away from the problem, and managed to stay away from it

[hybrid gazelle]

Okay but imagine cowboy fighting eldritch horror

[warm flicker]

https://wynncraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Rymek_Thief

[drifting aurora]

the desert and mesa are super interesting regions on their own and they dont really need "ooh spooky darkness approaching"

[hybrid gazelle]

Okay but fr why the fuck rymek bandit dress like that

[drifting aurora]

suppose that makes sense

[regal spire]

Why is desert spelled wrong

Lmao, dessert 🍮

[drifting aurora]

we escaped yer stupid corruption war to the dessert.... twas ice cream cones of a size youd never believe!

[regal spire]

Someone was hungry, writing that dialogue

[drifting aurora]

i do think there is still some legacy from the original desert empire in rymek's culture

cause yeah modern day bandits definitely are made up of a lot of people escaping the corruption war

[regal spire]

There really are a lot of opportunistic bandits just hanging around in Wynn

[dim plover]

(I just realized that if the Olm lived all across Wynn then Silent Expanse would technically be a part of Wynn)

Never thought about it like that before

[regal spire]

Some even have magic, like those lava bandits

[hybrid gazelle]

tbh I take this as good amount of Rymek population also came from deserters

like many people flee to Rymek for a chance of freedom

[drifting aurora]

it sets up even more of an us vs them mentality against almuj. these darn folks moving in on our land...

[hybrid gazelle]

ooo maybe like creden tibus with their staff?

okay wait wait

Lenxt hold on

[red dome]

I see that, Mesa was just the closest proximity to Eldritch Outlook and the rest of the Silent Expanse so I was wondering if this had any lore implications

[hybrid gazelle]

this is what I have for Rymek for wartorn

[drifting aurora]

ive got other thoughts about the desert but theyre ones i cant really talk about because they involve other things

[hybrid gazelle]

maybe I can revisit and give them some connection to sand kingdom

like my take is that

after sand kingdom collapse, some population would become their own community living around savanah or desert

but when corruption war happen

[regal spire]

There’s a lot of buried ruins in the desert, which poses a weird question on how low the original land was

[hybrid gazelle]

those same population either kill off or small survivor go deep into the canyon to form their own

which result in Rymek

[regal spire]

Like, are the savannahs on a plateau?

[hybrid gazelle]

and their descendent woudl become bandits

[regal spire]

Or did they build into the ground way more

[drifting aurora]

well i think its implied to be buried

[hybrid gazelle]

also here

[drifting aurora]

like, ground level used to be lower, or something

[dim plover]

To be fair the mesa is really deep

[hybrid gazelle]

I give the timeline of when people of Rymek made contact with their fellow human

[regal spire]

Any idea how deep down the original civilization was? Since there’s some interesting geography with the river’s formations, the visible grass around the sides of the desert, and how deep the ruins actually go

[drifting aurora]

yeah its an oddity. one i dont have an official answer for

[red dome]

Which makes sense if you look at how deep the Mesa is

[drifting aurora]

maybe an additional effect of all the sandstorms was earthshattering quakes that pulled things downwards? iunno

mesa being very low is a good point

[hybrid gazelle]

waiting for Fruma so I can reference them in sand kingdom lore

[regal spire]

It makes less sense when compared to the Savannah next to it, and what the original desert would need to look like

[hybrid gazelle]

FRUMA COME OUT WARGHHH

[drifting aurora]

lol

[hybrid gazelle]

like my idea is that

Sand kingdom pretty much the migrate using all that they know to build civilization from fruma and apply to their

and the emperor's staff are fruman artifact that been stolen from royalty

thus the immense power it held

but gotta wait for fruma to come out

https://tenor.com/view/하루우라라-gif-26453523

[regal spire]

Like, the Mesa connection rises and falls, with a huge wall of the canyon separating the savannah, and attaching to the mountain ranges. There’d be this really big dip into the ground, which doesn’t really make sense based on the geography described in the SD’s for the desert.

However, the great Hashring having opened holes into the ground and burying the entire civilization would be super cool

[drifting aurora]

my one little thing about rymek that i want to make real is that chak (of bob legend fame) was the guy who created the creden tibus and founded rymek

[red dome]

This is my headcannon, during the Sand Empire's fall the curse of Sandstorms also had a drastic effect on the very foundations of the buildings in the kingdom. With every grain of sand uprooting to join the winds of wrath

[hybrid gazelle]

omg that would be so cool

[regal spire]

Permission to rename the deserts upheaval to the Hashring?

[hybrid gazelle]

also Lexnt

what you think of Ethe

[drifting aurora]

um. you can call it whatever you want i guess

i got thoughts on ethe

[hybrid gazelle]

will anything be done with Ethe I think him being a mage kinda

[drifting aurora]

i got thoughts on all 4 of em

[hybrid gazelle]

push to the side LOL

like WTF you mean you can use magic

imagine Ethe has connection with Twain before and Mael direct Bob to him

[dim plover]

I was reading into a lot of Wynncraft’s desert lore about a year back mostly for research when it comes to my WynnExcavation rewrite

I do like getting details about official lore right despite changing some things

The thing about desert lore is that

It’s annoyingly hidden sometimes

(I know, shocker)

But assuming my memory hasn’t failed me I’m pretty sure even the desert eco caves have backstory to them

[regal spire]

Actually, this is really important to me, but plumbing is not really shown throughout Wynn. We’ve got a few select areas in Gavel, we’ve got Ragni, Detlas, Troms, and maybe Almuj with their aqueduct, but we don’t actively see toilets with a use beyond the kings in DnD

Why aren’t there more toilets/plumbing implements in Wynn

[dim plover]

But I think I’ve just mostly been focusing on the relationship between Hashr and the Emperor

And I suppose the Sceptre

[drifting aurora]

because its not really important

[dim plover]

(Which I’m like 80% sure is a mythic-tier weapon btw)

Because jesus

[regal spire]

I get what you mean, but hearing that is really funny

[drifting aurora]

like. i dont think the game experience would really be improved by making it all make 100% Perfect Realistic Sense

level of detail is lower in a game like this

[regal spire]

Surely one or two small chamber pots, though?

[dim plover]

Dude we’re not bringing Deltarune’s shit and piss theory into this server

[rotund gust]

i don’t wanna think about wynn characters pissing

it would bring up a lot of weird lari fanart

[regal spire]

Asgore pissing

[dim plover]

(An actual widely-known and legitimate community theory, I should mention)

Yes that’s the actual name

Yes it’s not a joke theory

[drifting aurora]

yeah but its like a joke name

[dim plover]

I don’t know what to tell you all

[regal spire]

There’s gotta be a dark world variant to poopoo

[drifting aurora]

the theory itself is less a Full On Theory and more a piece of evidence to add to a different, larger theory

[dim plover]

The name’s a joke in the sense that it’s vaguely humorous but it’s still relevant

[drifting aurora]

yeah

[dim plover]

Ok uh moving on

[drifting aurora]

that is

[red dome]

https://tenor.com/view/fruma-wynncraft-update-toilet-violet-gif-2524793796419357989

[drifting aurora]

not what that is and you know that

[dim plover]

I am going to add this to Fake Fruma and make it a secret boss

[red dome]

Make it a secret discovery lol

[dim plover]

Players are going to meet this and the game will play it up as some joke boss or smth that is probably mildly difficult but it’s more for fun than anything

Then the battle’s difficulty suddenly spikes by tenfold when the music that’s been playing in the background suddenly transitions into the freedom theme

[drifting aurora]

water cooler

[dim plover]

Yeah was thinking about that lol

[drifting aurora]

buble

[dim plover]

||“The air is sprinkled with freedom”||

[drifting aurora]

aaaand im out of here

[dim plover]

Sorry I was too lazy to look up the dictionary

This is the best I got

Oh was that too far

[drifting aurora]

not really but i gotta go anyway

[red dome]

LOL

[dim plover]

Ok bye

[drifting aurora]

in the meantime

[regal spire]

I’ll suggest adding chamber pots to wynn villages, maybe they’ll add it

[red dome]

So for your fake Fruma are you recreating Espren?

[rotund gust]

):

[drifting aurora]

See you soon!

[dim plover]

soon
Uh oh

(Whenever I see the words “Coming Soon” it usually takes like ten years)

Welp it was nice knowing you

[hybrid gazelle]

since lexnt gone

[red dome]

Well they've already added the Fruman toilet

[hybrid gazelle]

the new seaksipper dialogue imply the use of modern slang

so it POSSIBLE

that somewhere in wynncraft universe

[red dome]

Real

[hybrid gazelle]

brainrot exist in different form

[red dome]

I think Purple has a pretty good gif of Qira for this

[dim plover]

(I’m actually almost done with the new version of the Panic Zealot brainrot memetic kill agent)

[red dome]

That works too

[dim plover]

But I might need a moderator or smth to proofread it because there is a chance some of it might not be allowed in the Wynncraft discord server

[hybrid gazelle]

hard working dad hianv to pay 3 months of his salary so his son can watch skidibi rizz play in theater

[dim plover]

I honestly don’t know mostly because of how many layers of obfuscation some of them get

And also because I have a history of accidentally passing the line when it comes to posting stuff here

So yeah, proofread is needed

Here’s the old one though
#❓questions message

[regal spire]

Strange that they’d have such strong opinions on fan made concepts

[red dome]

You really need your own thread at this point with how many you've posted, it's kinda getting hard to find the original memes

[dim plover]

What memes

[regal spire]

I mean, atp, your concepts are so far away from their original source, there’s not a whole lot of connection to be made beyond it being a concept from Wynn. Like, your PZ lore is not at all what I’d expect from PZ, and it makes it that much more interesting

[red dome]

I mean your humorous fake wynn content

[dim plover]

I would have a dedicated Purple thread if I actually made anything substantial

Largest I had so far is Fake Fruma and that project isn’t even done yet

[regal spire]

You’ve made tons of stuff, whatchyutalkinbout

[dim plover]

The PZ lore is exclusively for Hidden Side and that’s on hiatus as I build new systems for it

[regal spire]

Your forums posts alone make for an incredible thread of concepts

[red dome]

Sir you've made so much that Salted is asking you to join CT

[dim plover]

To be fair Salted offered a position for modeler

And that was years back when he saw my Watching Beast model

[regal spire]

How come you’ve never taken it? You make so much, and it’s not like a lot of the deadlines offered are super strict

[dim plover]

(This one)

Made it back in like 2019 or smth?

[dim plover]

I liked the Pyroclastic Hydra model

Anyways uh

Real reason is I lack self control

[dim plover]

I don’t want to dedicate so much time into CT stuff and forgo my actual IRL stuf