#Rico Archipelago Map

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tulip scarab
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the trains are half hourly here so this is infinitely more chill to time

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even connects to the ferry

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although the ferry has extra pendelbussen as well

tulip scarab
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bus 262

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bus 263

warm jewel
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what about 262 going to langenberg

tulip scarab
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from where

warm jewel
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wolfersveen

tulip scarab
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it would run parallel to the train and be a lot slower

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bus 264

warm jewel
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the point is just to connect Milsbeek

tulip scarab
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yes

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and also connect the two larger trains to the branch

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I could also extend it all the way to mosselaar

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like this

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I will grow these towns a bit more then tho

warm jewel
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hm

tulip scarab
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because two lines is a bit too good

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but not if they grow a bit

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this is kind of cheating but also not I think

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I have city growth turned off but I fund growth in places with a hoge bereikbaarheid essentially

warm jewel
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nice

tulip scarab
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which is vaguelly how it works irl I think

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some towns on the map really just have an OP position so I grew them

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wachtum

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oudeschild

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Fransum

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these were basically nowheres

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bus 265

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this will be 2bph

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essentially more a city bus than streekbus

warm jewel
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this is good

tulip scarab
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I have a bad idea

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opheffen station diependal

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because

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for some reason on this line the stoppers are a minute faster than the express trains

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so everyone takes those and they are overloaded

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im just gonna do this as a test

warm jewel
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cool

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is this because of like

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acceleration

tulip scarab
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yes and train types

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I think what ruins this is the diesel sneltrein that runs here

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also im secretly planning the last island

warm jewel
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cool

tulip scarab
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im thinking this

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dots are the biggest cities

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dashed=diesel, solid=electric

warm jewel
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planning

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stations waar alle diensten kopmaken ondanks dat de lijn doorloopt

tulip scarab
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where

warm jewel
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im just hoping this will happen

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the thing in the middle with the electric triangle

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and the one diesel

tulip scarab
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I havent decides on services yet

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figuring that out now

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im thinking about how to do the outher ring line

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it's cool if this is one very long stoptrein but how to link it to the cities

warm jewel
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this should be like nrw REs

tulip scarab
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wdym

warm jewel
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they have cool branches where there’s one long stoptrein and like an RE that goes up to big town from the actual mainline

tulip scarab
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hmm alrigh

warm jewel
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but idk

tulip scarab
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might just make shuttles then

warm jewel
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also possible

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or just only have like fanning stoptreinen

tulip scarab
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If I can get the ring lines to cross where the shuttles come

warm jewel
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hmm

tulip scarab
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I was thinking like

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this would only really suck for the people living on the unconnected section

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im gonna have one long stoptrein because cool

warm jewel
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I would’ve thought

tulip scarab
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this is what I came up with

warm jewel
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maybe even run yellow and orange double

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this isn’t that far

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I like your net though

tulip scarab
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thanks

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theres basically three areas of this island

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the northeast penis

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the central bit

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and the mountains

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the northeast and central have good trains

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you just shouldnt live in the mountains

warm jewel
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yea

tulip scarab
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im gonna start building

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theres gonna be some cool infra

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theres gonna be soem single track IC

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this place is difficult

tulip scarab
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not great here

warm jewel
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very foute bedoeling

tulip scarab
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you cant really do this without making very long tunnels

warm jewel
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maybe this should just not have trains

tulip scarab
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these are the connections to the ring line

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this is why there will only be these two

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island ring line will be mostly single track

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this is gonna be horrible

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theres probably gonna be buses faster for some trips

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no im not making more tunnels

warm jewel
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good

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this should be pretty bad

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you don’t want Zwitserland praktijken where you build a basistunnel for a valley of 10k people

ancient creek
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Rico basistunnels

tulip scarab
river wind
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Progressing quite well

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Just 2 untouched islands left

tulip scarab
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buses

river wind
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buses

tulip scarab
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bus 254

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nice bus connecting to nothing

river wind
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nice 0 minute stop

tulip scarab
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thats a train

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ok im gonna change this

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bus 254

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ok the transfers are still shit

tulip scarab
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bussing

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bus 254 is just gonna suck I have accepted this

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bus 252

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bus 255

warm jewel
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bussen

tulip scarab
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bus 266

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im afraid this will be three hourly

wise elbow
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I've only ever used busses to service stations within the same town or between two very close towns. does it really work at lengths like these?

tulip scarab
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This town doesn't have a station

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My goal is to provide transport to every single town

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Buses like these lose a lot of money

wheat meadow
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Have you been playing this map continuously for the last 2 years? How do you maintain interest?

tulip scarab
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Pretty continuously

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When I lose interest in playing this map I lose interest in the game in general

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And I just play something else like ets2 or factorio

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Play that a few weeks and then go back to ottd

ancient creek
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ets 2 gang

wise elbow
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wait, two years real time?? are you on like, year 690000?

tulip scarab
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No it's like 3200

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I pause the game a lots

molten acorn
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how big is the map

tulip scarab
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4k by 2k

molten acorn
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How much is completed

versed cairn
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I wanna see the infrastructure window

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From the company info

tulip scarab
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like 80%

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682 train stations

versed cairn
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64% electrification

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7% of rail tiles have signals

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1.3% of all tiles have rail

river wind
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No maglev :(

red knot
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stats

tulip scarab
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its mostly branched that are unelectrified

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but soem mainlines as well

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I could map this

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I did this so I could have diesel IC

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I think that is a cool concept

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@versed cairn unelectrified map

versed cairn
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This is good

tulip scarab
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this is the diesel IC

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and that south island only has diesel

warm jewel
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this is kinda germany or france

tulip scarab
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explain

versed cairn
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Having a diesel IC over this kind of range is pretty France or Germany

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It's not very Netherlands due to the efficient electrification they have

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And it's not UK because this would be a stoptrien

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Sneltrien

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Whatever you call it

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Or it would be much longer

tulip scarab
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well its not really an IC

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more a sneltrein yes

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it stops at pretty bad places

versed cairn
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Was there any sort of story to which lines get electrified and which don't?

tulip scarab
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basically almost all sets of electrified/unelectrified lines for a small network

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theres not a lot of single isolated lines

versed cairn
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I see

warm jewel
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germany and France are like

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the base line is electrified

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but there’s plenty of diesel

versed cairn
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I like the city where the 3 unelectrified lines converge on that one electrified bit

warm jewel
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and enough to have a few diesel ICs

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the uk is full of long distance diesel

tulip scarab
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wapserveen

versed cairn
warm jewel
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it’s probably more germany because decentralised network

versed cairn
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True

tulip scarab
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this is a very long stoptrein

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that doesnt really serve anything important

warm jewel
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Troyes Mulhouse mainline being diesel is pretty cool

tulip scarab
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diesel IC city

warm jewel
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this is like the direct route from a major urban area to paris and it just never happened

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and now they have LGV so it probably never will

tulip scarab
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here too

versed cairn
tulip scarab
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this is kinda the lore for this section as well

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this will never be electrified

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because better lines around it already are

versed cairn
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Good lore

tulip scarab
versed cairn
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This is not an electrification map

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Just realised

tulip scarab
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the worst IC of the map is also close to here

versed cairn
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Germany has a lot more stuff than I realised

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Worst IC let's see

tulip scarab
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its very short

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and is diesel but 75% is under the wire

versed cairn
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Oh I love this

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What stock?

tulip scarab
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also it isnt using the high speed line because it is too slow for that and would mess up the electric trains

versed cairn
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I like the parallel but with the fast electric line

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Very British coded

tulip scarab
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average occupancy of this is like 15%

warm jewel
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proper train

versed cairn
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It's giving Birmingham/West Midlands

warm jewel
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does a slow service with the same route exist

versed cairn
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Yes this is a proper train

tulip scarab
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It uses this curve

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it's very messy

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lets get the service map

versed cairn
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What's your minimum frequency?

tulip scarab
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for trains 1tph

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idk if this makes sense

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ignore the numbers for now

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thin lines are 1tph

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and thick 2tph

warm jewel
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IC11 is cool

versed cairn
tulip scarab
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the reason this stops in niebert is essentially buses

versed cairn
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But going lower can make life complicated

tulip scarab
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my trains are pretty well used

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I try to aim for 30-70%

versed cairn
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I usually aim for 80% on the busiest stretch

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Then whatever the average is just is

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This is nice

tulip scarab
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I basically prefer to lengthen trains then improve frequency

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this is why almost everything is still 1tph

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theres a few spots where I had to kick it up to 2tph

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I dont have more than 2tph anywhere except when its two combined services

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I was thinking that after this map is full I maybe want to improve services and have like good commuter networks going on

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But I'll see

wise elbow
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tph = trains per hour?

tulip scarab
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progress

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im gonna add the ferries now

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diensten

warm jewel
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🚨

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are some of these actually faster

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and if so for how many people

tulip scarab
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boats are pretty hard to predict

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they will all be hourly 700pax first

warm jewel
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this is quite high capacity

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for connections to the big island understandable though

tulip scarab
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this is mainly because I dont want to have too many like 4bph boats

warm jewel
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yes

tulip scarab
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I only have like 3 half hourly ferries

tulip scarab
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I fucked up

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cant play this game for 2 weeks now

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I clicked send all trains to depot accidentally instead of template replacement

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so I loaded an old save and now all the ferries I just made are gonna

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fuck this game

warm jewel
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rip

ancient creek
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rico ttd

red knot
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all the ferries are gonna fuck this game?

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😮

jovial aurora
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F

maiden portal
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No auto saves?

molten acorn
tulip scarab
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we're back again

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I took a month to recover from my autosave ragequit and thesis problems

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but we're back

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bus 229

tulip scarab
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bus 270

warm jewel
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this is awesome

tulip scarab
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@warm jewel rate buses

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im mostly not sure about the 278/281

warm jewel
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hmm

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do any of these stations get IC

tulip scarab
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only schimmert

warm jewel
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I think this is pretty good

tulip scarab
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nice

tulip scarab
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gonna do some trains

warm jewel
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exciting

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this has been a while

tulip scarab
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well its mainly finishing off the lines on that island

warm jewel
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what do the number means

tulip scarab
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island 3 train line 16

tulip scarab
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3-18 and 3-19

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irl this would be a combining train

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I cant push 2tph through that left section

warm jewel
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just manually compile the patch

tulip scarab
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im gonna try to knoop everything

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this needs to take less than 60 minutes

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its coming guys

warm jewel
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teringjoekel

tulip scarab
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yes

warm jewel
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this would be like if the 9000 and the 4600 got doorgekoppeld maybe

tulip scarab
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theres probably gonna be some long waits on this

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also cool this serves like no cities

warm jewel
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j

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I remember discussing this

tulip scarab
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I wonder how many train sets this will require

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this is the largest settlement

warm jewel
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dit is van formaat

tulip scarab
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It's gonna take 12 trains to run this

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I'm gonna timetable it now

warm jewel
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omlopen

tulip scarab
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It looks like almost all knopen will work out

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Only the top bit in the peninsula is gonna be a bottleneck

warm jewel
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in terms of timing?

tulip scarab
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yes

tulip scarab
tulip scarab
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I might print this on A0 when I'm finished

warm jewel
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very good idea

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how readable would that be

ancient creek
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I think A1 might already be enough for this

red knot
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rico how long have you been working on this

tulip scarab
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close to two years

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but I have taken long gaps

tulip scarab
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bus 275

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bus 276

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bus 277

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bus 280

tulip scarab
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im gonna evaluate all trains and buses

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check if I need extra or less capacity

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first trains

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0-1 lengthened

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0-1b lengthened

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0-2 lengthened

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0-3 lengthened

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0-8 shortened

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0-30 lengthened

warm jewel
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0

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I like eiland 0

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Pangea

tulip scarab
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0-60 shortened

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0-73 shortened

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ok onto buses

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0-47 back to 1bp2h

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0-88 to 1bp4h

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this is now the least frequent bus of the map

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these are the two unique towns it serves

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0-170 to 1bp2h

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0-190 non articulated bus

warm jewel
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very cool

tulip scarab
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0-226 back to 1bph

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0-234 to 2bph

warm jewel
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nummers

tulip scarab
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0-258 to 1bp2h

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@warm jewel rate ferries

warm jewel
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ik doe dit morgenmiddag als ik er aan denk

tulip scarab
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@warm jewel

warm jewel
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kut

tulip scarab
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@warm jewel

warm jewel
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ik zal even kijken

warm jewel
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this might be good

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it’s mostly well designed I think though

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for ferries I think directness is quite valuable cause it can save much time

tulip scarab
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Hmm I'll see

warm jewel
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these could be cool but maybe less demand

tulip scarab
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it's fairly hard to fill the ships

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I dont want to spam too much

ancient creek
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just doorkoppel the things

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really low frequencies

tulip scarab
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n

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im gonna check all main ferry frequencies

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F6 to 1bp2h

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F15 to 1bp2h

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F21 to 1bp2h

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F24 to 1bp2h

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first need to finish off some buses though

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bus 279

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bus 278

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bus 281

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bus 903a/b

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bus 904a/b

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bus 905

warm jewel
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a/b

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is this like Zuilen or Overvecht

tulip scarab
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new buses coming soon

warm jewel
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hype

tulip scarab
tulip scarab
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@warm jewel opinion?

warm jewel
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I don’t think there’s a lot of other ways to do this

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maybe making the 2 a loop instead of going to Basse

tulip scarab
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I thought about that

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or cancelling 3 altogether

warm jewel
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idk 3 seems like it would be pretty good

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idk how big Basse is

tulip scarab
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700 population

warm jewel
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hmm

near nova
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didn't ask my opinion but this could be funny

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combining 3 and 1 could be funny too for long boy route

ancient creek
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knoop

tulip scarab
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im gonna be timetabling buses

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I made 2 into a loop

warm jewel
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nice

tulip scarab
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right now it is planned as two hourly but if the route is under 60 minutes it can be hourly

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bus 7 and 8 will also be two hourly

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this is kind of a rare area of the map where most trains are half hourly

ancient creek
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how many knopen are in this picture

tulip scarab
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not a lof of proper ones

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lutjelollum kindof

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Kustlicht is fake

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red just runs 5 minutes behind yellow

ancient creek
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Weperpolder?

tulip scarab
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no

ancient creek
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for the vink treinen would be good

tulip scarab
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there is a fairly good connection

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from the green express trains from the left to vink

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this is a 10 minute connection

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so pretty decent

ancient creek
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10 minute connection

tulip scarab
ancient creek
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deventer

tulip scarab
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weperpolder-oukoop is a congested line

ancient creek
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shuttle

tulip scarab
tulip scarab
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im building roads

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im gonna be planning buses for this whole island

warm jewel
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that’s quite a lot

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will the white lines be roads?

tulip scarab
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yes

warm jewel
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fuck kamp I geuss

tulip scarab
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just forgot that one

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I need to see how the mountain roads will work out

tulip scarab
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added line numbers

tulip scarab
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man this is a lot of roads to build

tulip scarab
tulip scarab
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busbusbus

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@warm jewel rate buses

wheat meadow
tulip scarab
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Yes

warm jewel
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i actually think you did a very good job

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esp on the 10/11/12

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im not sure i love the 18

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and with 14/15 i assume these will run ene and andere halfuur?

wheat meadow
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Also, is this a scenario/heightmap you're playing, or is it randomly generated? I really like the multiple islands aspect of it.

tulip scarab
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It's a heightmap

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I think it's called meandering islands by @crisp plover

tulip scarab
warm jewel
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hmm

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I think having them dubbel isn’t that useful

tulip scarab
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I hate it when this happens

warm jewel
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hoe

tulip scarab
warm jewel
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pretty foute bus

tulip scarab
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why

warm jewel
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spoor ligt niet heel lekker i guess

tulip scarab
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this bus will not connect properly

tulip scarab
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bus 10

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having buses in a mesh is pretty hard for transfers

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I can only have one maatgevende overstap

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bus 11

tulip scarab
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I know what I'll do after all towns are connected

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I'll add a shit ton of freight trains, grow towns and op cargo generation

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And then fix the problems that will come from this

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I'm gonna make a plan soon

tulip scarab
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these are the areas I want to further develop

wheat meadow
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What are the main railway routes on the big island?

warm jewel
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Rico structuurvisie?

ancient creek
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Rico BO-MIRT

tulip scarab
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@wheat meadow these are all the mainlines

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its kind o like a structuurvisie yes

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my goal is to get an excuse to add more trains

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and to have like regional centers in the map

warm jewel
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you need to have a phs eventually

tulip scarab
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I dont think I will really get that

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because all my services I make based on demand

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I dont have any real 4tph services yet

warm jewel
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phs is fairly demand based

tulip scarab
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this isnt nodig outside hyperspits

warm jewel
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maybe]

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ehv ut can fill a virm4 pretty well in the dal even with 6tph

tulip scarab
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just run longer trains

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I only increase frequency if I use max train length already

warm jewel
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hmm

tulip scarab
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theres a few services close to over 70% full at max length

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I think I will upgrade this last one to a mainline with sneltreinen

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im gonna grow all the towns on island 1 now

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see how this will work out

tulip scarab
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town growth

red knot
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curious to see how the regional networks come together

tulip scarab
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bus 12

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bus 13

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none of these buses connect properly to each other nice

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only to trains

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bus 15

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bus 14

tulip scarab
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bus 23

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bus 16

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Man I hate buses that are impossibly to schedule well

tulip scarab
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bus 15 will have a 40 minute transfer somwhere

warm jewel
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jammer

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I think 11/12/13 don’t really need to connect to eachother

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these won’t be large stromen

tulip scarab
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bus 17

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bus 18

tulip scarab
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Bus 18 will be cancelled

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It's way faster to take the bus to peelkant and then train so nobody is using this

warm jewel
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didn’t I tell you this was a silly line

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what’s gonna happen to kreek though

near nova
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buurtbus

tulip scarab
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I'm gonna have to look into this

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I'm thinking like a two hourly buurtbus yes

warm jewel
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very good

tulip scarab
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new bus 18

warm jewel
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good

tulip scarab
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bus 24

warm jewel
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tunnels

tulip scarab
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maybe I did too muhc

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nah I dont like it

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it doesnt fit to the network structure of other parts of the map

warm jewel
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Hub

ancient creek
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Saneer

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My advice is to bus spitsbergen

tulip scarab
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building new lines

tulip scarab
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diensten

ancient creek
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i disagree with th eshuttle service

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this should be a bus

tulip scarab
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pech

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hij komt er wel

ancient creek
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Ik zal hoogstpersoonlijk protest maken en een petitie tekenen om te voorkomen dat deze plaats een trein krijgt, dit heeft een 4 baans weg nodig

tulip scarab
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I already dont have a lot of rail

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cool things here

warm jewel
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yes

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geografie

ancient creek
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close this down

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build a road

warm jewel
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boot

red knot
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Sinas let Rico build train

ancient creek
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N9

tulip scarab
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updating my map

tulip scarab
ancient creek
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I disagree with the shuttle

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Shuttle services that are run by trains are bad

ancient creek
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I hereby declare anyone who takes a shuttle service run by a train gets, -20 cents subisidy

versed cairn
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Exhibit A

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Where do we draw the line for what counts as a shuttle service?

warm jewel
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anything with an intermediate stop

versed cairn
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I was going to say airport expresses were another example but those are often bad in the UK

warm jewel
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maybe somewhat of a consistent schedule matters?

wise elbow
versed cairn
versed cairn
warm jewel
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same but then i quickly arrived at there is nothing here that will lead to a consistent definition

versed cairn
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I guess

warm jewel
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like what would you propose

versed cairn
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Usually one end will be an easily accessible transport hub, while the other end will be a final destination

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Although which end is which may depend on the individual journey

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Or like your perspectives

warm jewel
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yeah but isnt that like the nature of very many rail services

versed cairn
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An airport shuttle could consider a city centre as an easily accessible transport hub and the airport as a destination

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Or vice versa

warm jewel
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hmm

versed cairn
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Like an intercity train just going between two cities

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I don't really count as a shuttle

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Like Eurostar London-Paris isn't really a shuttle

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But Le Shuttle claims to be a shuttle in its name

wise elbow
versed cairn
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ok

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Well it is

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#openttd message

tulip scarab
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Inkscape actually

wise elbow
tulip scarab
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Almere Centrum to Amsterdam Centraal

tulip scarab
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bus 19

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bus 20

tulip scarab
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extra treinen

ancient creek
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You need p treinen

tulip scarab
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I hate this game

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why is this train waiting here for no reason

warm jewel
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kapot

versed cairn
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Trespassers

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Waiting for path?

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Strange place to be caught out

red knot
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Could be a phantom path res bug

versed cairn
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Most likely

tulip scarab
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Destroyed and rebuilt it and it works again

warm jewel
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hersteld

tulip scarab
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this is going to ferry every 15 minutes

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finished growing all the towns on that island

tulip scarab
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revised ferries in the southwest

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im gonna try to make a bootknoop in the middle

tulip scarab
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F36 boot

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train 2-4a

tulip scarab
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R

tulip scarab
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tea and ttd time

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train 21-1

tulip scarab
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train 21-2

warm jewel
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good trains i think

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what route will train 3 be

tulip scarab
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linking the largest cities to the ferry to the mainland

warm jewel
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nice

tulip scarab
versed cairn
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Grind jumbo

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Ttd

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What else does a guy need

tulip scarab
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A social life or actually fulfilling activities would be a good

tulip scarab
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bus 22

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bus 21

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bus 28

warm jewel
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!!

tulip scarab
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What's special

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This is a pretty solid bus I think

warm jewel
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I just like bussen with lijnnummer 20-29

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this tends to be reserved for very dikke streeklijnen

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like the slow drachten to leeuwarden

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or Assen Steenwijk along the hoofdvaart

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Leiden Noordwijk

lavish folio
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sorry if you mentionned it before, whats the logic behind your naming convention?

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incredible work btw ")

tulip scarab
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@warm jewel buses

warm jewel
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nice

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these look a little bit rommelig

warm jewel
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should the yellow line be non stop

ancient creek
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is this a new map?

warm jewel
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of course not

ancient creek
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I dont see outside connection

warm jewel
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cool how many olieboorplatforms there are btw

tulip scarab
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How would I improve the buses

ancient creek
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Buurtbussen

warm jewel
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I would make the yellow line go via ‘t vlaandertje

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unless this is very bad for rijtijden

tulip scarab
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The yellow line skips it because it's kinda intended as an express line

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Because by train it's pretty hard to do this route

warm jewel
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oh yeah thats a good point actually

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cause the netwerk is 8

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i mean if its vol

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i also just wonder how big the time difference is

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but 't vlaandertje - kaarschot is pretty bad like this also

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i guess this will depend on transfers

tulip scarab
warm jewel
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o

versed cairn
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't

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I know what 's means but I don't know what 't means

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I went to a 't yesterday

warm jewel
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mean het/the in english

ancient creek
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Set Hertogenbosch
Het Vlaandertje

warm jewel
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Des Hertogenbos

fast aspen
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How do you make this kind of service maps?

wheat meadow
warm jewel
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it’s made in Inkscape but yes a lot of labour goes into these I think

tulip scarab
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bus 26

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bus 27

versed cairn
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These all seem very depressing places to live

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If I lived in a bus 27 town I would move house

tulip scarab
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why

warm jewel
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metslawier station

tulip scarab
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hourly bus

versed cairn
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Very remote

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I have a Demi-god koet overlord

tulip scarab
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not too bad

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anyways back to buses

tulip scarab
tulip scarab
versed cairn
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Coast to coast

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Very cool

tulip scarab
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ferry 1 and 2

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1 is hourly and 2 is two hourly

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bus 8 is gonna have a rare timetable

tulip scarab
tulip scarab
warm jewel
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de aansluiting

tulip scarab
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goederenpaden

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im gonna start with red, these will be very hard paden

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I might triple or quad track sections

warm jewel
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hmmm

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good luck

ancient creek
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je moet treinen er tussendoor drukken rico

tulip scarab
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its impossible to fit in some places

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low traffic lines are so nice

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its kinda druk here

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goederen op 200kmh lijnen is gewoon niet heel lekker

warm jewel
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dit gebeurt ook in het echt niet heel veel

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vooral in basistunnels

tulip scarab
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dit is bij mij op de ausbaustrecke

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the cargo trains need like stupid long wait times in a few placse to get the pad again

warm jewel
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pad

tulip scarab
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like 50 minutes

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but this will be at the rangeerterrein

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so its also unloading

warm jewel
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nice

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freight with multiple stops

stiff hatch
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so long no updates :c

deep nova
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Is there an actual ferry that transport vehicles or just cargo and passengers?

river wind
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It's not possible to make ferries in OpenTTD that transport vehicles

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Would be cool to have train ferries like on the Messina strait

tulip scarab
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@warm jewel rate buses

warm jewel
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tweede rot naar koper is echt een flink stuk parallel

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middenstuk is ook best wat

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wat zijn IC stops?

tulip scarab
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breda - kloosterveen - kopaf

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koekoek en planketent zijn hele grote plaatsen

warm jewel
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hmm oke

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denk je dat er veel vraag van omliggende plaatsen naar koekoek is

tulip scarab
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ja

warm jewel
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Dan is de huidige setup denk ik te verantwoorden

tulip scarab
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hmmmmmmmmmmmm

tulip scarab
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bus 284

ancient creek
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krabbnedijke