battlefield-2042

[next onyx]

Yes.

I forget it's a gadget honestly.

[queen crypt]

like a one time thing or a thing that breaks?

[next onyx]

Same interaction, takes 20 points of explosive damage then breaks.

[uncut bay]

i think that'd be better

[queen crypt]

anything would be better than armour tbh

[hot bronze]

they could remove it. or keep it only as a ground pickup in HZ. then again I dont play that so wouldnt care

[shy latch]

if they'll decide to completely remove the armor plate than they need to replace it with another gadget and review Irish passive ability

[queen crypt]

His passive is so mid that basically anything would be an improvement

[limber garden]

Why are you limiting players options by removing breakthrough 128 players?

[queen crypt]

what was it, like 5 per ammo drop?

[uncut bay]

probably a variety of reasons, some of which the community wouldn't understand

[queen crypt]

It didn't work too well and just ended up splitting the playerbase

[hot bronze]

My thought is to better condense players so there is less AI filler

[queen crypt]

so its better to concentrate them into a better experience

[hot bronze]

plus 128BT was trash IMO

[quasi mortar]

I don't play this game for fun, I enjoy it and I don't, i'm trying to 100% the game achievement wise so don't fuck this shit over EA :)

[uncut bay]

i found it too chaotic, but as with any big change, the community is always going to have split opinions

[limber garden]

Do you know what will also split the player base? removing a mode people enjoyed. Now it will be split again but instead 64 vs 128, players which play 64 breakthrough and those who don't play the game at all.
just clever..

[uncut bay]

i doubt most of the people that were playing 128bt are going to uninstall lol

you overestimate how much the average player cares

[hot bronze]

thats right, You cant please everyone

[limber garden]

Let's see. there is time 🙂

[solar minnow]

this is funny

[uncut bay]

we will see indeed

[queen crypt]

I do agree that removing game modes can be seen as a bad thing, as it is removing content from an already content starving game, but I think in this case it's probably a good move

[digital summit]

I have no desire to play the game right now, that's for sure

[hot bronze]

Ya I doubt we see a dip or rise of active players with this update

[solar minnow]

the maps aren't made for 64p so no difference. Just less action

[topaz field]

QUIT CRYING WE RATHER QUALITY OVER QUANTITY

[royal wigeon]

50 GB update?

[quasi mortar]

I wouldn't mind if the game was dead, would make it easier for me to get achievements

[hot bronze]

no need to yell but you are right

[digital summit]

and 128BT was the most quality experience IMO

[solar minnow]

hard agree

[topaz field]

[hot bronze]

it was 1ish for me

[queen crypt]

[plucky pebble]

How

[solar minnow]

how?

[vocal grove]

Well I just got 2042 for $9 at my local shop. Feels like a decent amount of content for the price.

[royal wigeon]

why is mine 50 then lmao, the game was up to date before today

[plucky pebble]

Still 4 bucks expensive

[hot bronze]

it brings more players together instead of slitting them up over game modes

[uncut bay]

i mean considering dice has actual metrics, one would think they wouldn't remove a game mode that's played often and works perfectly well 🤔

[solar minnow]

oof they got you lol

[queen crypt]

Cause it was a laggy clusterduck imo, with so many players focused in such a small area, the netcode went haywire and was just a vehicle spam fest

[plucky pebble]

Bruh

[solar minnow]

it doesn't though. it pushes people away. 64p feels like a downgrade.

[silk surge]

I love how people were consistently shitposting about 128p, and when it was removed from a gamemode, people suddenly love 128p.

[solar minnow]

this is far from true

[digital summit]

2 different player groups

[limber garden]

If they continue with the bad decisions soon they'll have to limit each game mode to 16 players unless people want to play with bots :

[hot bronze]

Like i said I doubt we see a rise or lower in active players with this update. but we will see

[plucky pebble]

[dapper berry]

it's gonna get lower because of the rubberbanding

[digital summit]

the people who hate it bitch about it, the people who enjoy it don't really make posts about how they enjoy it

[plucky pebble]

Vouch

[solar minnow]

keep spreading hate man.

[digital summit]

but now that it's removed, the people who did enjoy it go in and complain about it

[hot bronze]

thats a big issue. though Im not having that issue so far

[solar minnow]

I haven't seen anyone in 64p breakthrough say they like it.

[limber garden]

Not true, for instance I ain't complaining. I just uninstalled and wanted to share my opinion. Their product they can do whatever they want with it. 🙂

[vocal grove]

But yeah, what's going on with Hazard Zone? Can't find a match?

[solar minnow]

All I get is it's boring which I agree.

[plucky pebble]

[solar minnow]

dead

[ember nimbus]

I prefer it over 128BT

[dapper berry]

i like it

[solar minnow]

why?

[hot bronze]

that game mode was never going to live.

[vocal grove]

Far out, bummer.

[uncut bay]

i like it. See how that works?

[ember nimbus]

I get shot in the back more then I get shot in the face

[vocal grove]

Concept seemed kinda cool. Just to mix things up a bit

[topaz field]

buy it dude dont let people make decisions for you in life smh. The game isnt even bad, ive been having fun since early access

[uncut bay]

people are obsessed with using anecdotal evidence to further their own opinions, it's crazy

[dapper berry]

concept is good, the problem is the execution

[dapper berry]

welcome to the internet, have a look around

[plucky pebble]

If the maps were good i wouldn't care if it was 32p

[queen crypt]

Can't really look at stats tho

As they are nowhere to be found

[solar minnow]

you new?

[uncut bay]

yeah, but that's not an excuse to go around parading "uhh well MY group of friends all uninstalled! everyone loves 128bt!"

[plucky pebble]

But it's true tho

[uncut bay]

see what i mean? lol

[ember nimbus]

Point proven

[limber garden]

tbh, people are obsessed with other peoples issues instead of their own

[quasi mortar]

RENEWALL YES

[solar minnow]

what point?

[plucky pebble]

You see hes obsessed with being obsessed of other people's issues

[digital summit]

I'm just going to say that I never played 64 BT or CQ but I'm not saying they should be removed, nor would I say it's a good thing if they were

that's the difference between me and some others

[ember nimbus]

CQ needs 128 players more then BT does imo

[plucky pebble]

If thats true then remove hazard zone then :)

[vocal grove]

Yeah man, I grabbed it and having a bit of fun. The early 20th century BFs where never my thing. Shame DICE blew 2042 so hard on launch. But it kinda seems the norm for the series. Remember BF4s launch. People where screaming murder.

[topaz field]

bf4 still great but the movement a bit slow

[plucky pebble]

Go watch movement abuser on yt thenwe can talk

[solar minnow]

I like how if you disagree with dice move to remove content. people think your a hater. lmao

[limber garden]

Game is dying. Deny facts all you want but even dice know it is dying game

[topaz field]

who the hell lol

[queen crypt]

I love how they decided to go back to the 2 year dev cycle with the next BF, when every 2 cycle games (BF4, BFV) had issues that took a while to fix, while 3 year cycle games (BF3, BF1) had relatively successful launches

[digital summit]

removing content is the last thing they should do to fix it though

[hot bronze]

So I agree that in a prefect world they wouldnt need to remove 128bt. Even if It was madness and the community is split on it. We would have the player base to run all of them just fine. The only reason I see they removed it was to cut down the choices of modes from 4 to 3. This will ring more players together and make the over all experience better. Lest not get this confused though, All of these wouldnt be a problem if they just gave use a server browser. Then finding good and full survers wouldnt be a problem, no mater the size of the active players.

[queen crypt]

and no BF2042 does not count cause they basically scrapped the game and started over after like 18 months in dev

[limber garden]

I agree. It's lacking enough content as it it

[uncut bay]

it's a recurring theme. I've heard far too many people saying this launch was worse than BF4's

[solar minnow]

I know. it's crazy

[topaz field]

@plucky pebble oh hell no i just watched 10 seconds of his game play wtf. His videos is a b it sped up though

[plucky pebble]

Now 2042 is the slow one

[vocal grove]

So A/B teams working on titles concurrently but EA/DICE don't offically acknowledge this?

[solar minnow]

less action means more fun lmao

[plucky pebble]

See i got cancelled

[solar minnow]

pretty much.

[queen crypt]

development for the next game starts before the release of the latest game, and really ramps up soon after launch

[vocal grove]

Haha yeah, it's still solid. Just no PS5 support for us peasents. 😜

[limber garden]

One of the main reasons people got hyped about battlefield 2042 was the 128 players announcement btw.

[solar minnow]

true

[still vault]

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[tender pendant]

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[topaz field]

Thank you lordddddddddddd the body armor isnt as Op anymore

[queen crypt]

true, but if it doesn't work, its better to just do whats better for the game imo

[plucky pebble]

[limber garden]

That goes both ways. They can remove 64 player mode if we use that logic.

[solar minnow]

they watching you

[hot bronze]

Ya I like that change

[topaz field]

what you cant play bf4 on ps5?

[hot bronze]

Angel was a bit OP in some areas

[plucky pebble]

Thank god

[queen crypt]

But 64 players is like the baseline, we know it works, plus its on old gen consoles, 128p was the next big thing, but so far its not really worth it

[digital summit]

you can, it's just the native 900p version

it would be neat for PS5 owners to get a 4k update

[plucky pebble]

Not with this maps

[queen crypt]

the game performance really suffers with 128

[topaz field]

oihhh i see

[solar minnow]

it's because of the maps

[solar minnow]

performance is still bad with 64 though.

[still vault]

2x people = 2x bullets, people etc. to render and calculate

[limber garden]

Personally I never had issues with 128 players, but there are people which will die less now because of the lower player count on big maps.

[next onyx]

64p breakthrough at least isn't as cancer as 128.

[hot bronze]

128 Players can work but it requires good map design which this game lacks. the new maps are trash compared to any of the old games

[next onyx]

Yeah that's pretty much it Banen.

[queen crypt]

But even if he had the best maps, as soon as more than 20 people are on a single point, the netcode shits itself, and the fps is terrible throughout . 64 players still has performance issues, but nowhere near as bad as 128

[plucky pebble]

Fax

[void steeple]

Trash maps

[solar minnow]

the maps are killing this game...

[next onyx]

I get a nice consistent 120 on 64. Then it goes down to 70 on 128.

[limber garden]

Funny. I never had performance issues with 128 players. Maybe you guys should invest into modern technology, play on low settings or something?

[queen crypt]

not to mention the vehicle balance which just leads to so many things that can easily kill you while you cant do that in reverse

[uncut bay]

lucky you

[plucky pebble]

I mean i had more problems with portal than aow so i rather have low fps than unplayable servers

[solar minnow]

true

[next onyx]

I'm on a 3080 with a 5600x. The frames are alright but the difference really does tell.

[uncut bay]

the game obviously struggles because of the large maps and huge player count, regardless of specs

[limber garden]

Yeah, try a better cpu next time instead of overspending on a gpu...

[solar minnow]

128 works well on portal maps?

[queen crypt]

128 breakthrough should probably return once they sort out the performance issues, but for now at least, I believe its healthier for the game

[next onyx]

In my defence the 5600x is pretty good.

[plucky pebble]

Then explain br's

[uncut bay]

are we really going to go back to blaming people's computers instead of admitting that the game runs poorly?

[solar minnow]

it's gone fam

[hot bronze]

The thing is (IMO) bf2042 is fun. We see that with the Portal Flashback mode. We play with 2042 just on good maps and all of a sudden the fun is found. You cant out engineer bad maps. No amount of new content, guns, gadgets, or vehicles will make a bad map feel fun to play

[plucky pebble]

Bro thats a good cpu,blame the game

[next onyx]

Seems to be so Kato.

If my combo can run 120 on 64p the results on 128 shouldn't be so bad.

[queen crypt]

they haven't scrubbed 128 breakthrough from literally everywhere, they still have it, and can return it whenever they see fit

[plucky pebble]

F

[limber garden]

In my defense, I get 100 fps on rx 5700 xt and 5900. rx 5700 xt is an old gpu shit gpu compared to 3080

[solar minnow]

Yeah but knowing DICE they wont go back on it.

[plucky pebble]

I get like 80 everything on lowest with a 3070 i dont get it

[ember nimbus]

I haven't played a 128 player mode in so long

[solar minnow]

128bt is gone guys. lets be real

[uncut bay]

processor?

[hot bronze]

well of course but if players cant get too it it is gone. dosent matter if it is behind a lock door it might as well not exist

[uncut bay]

the game is cpu heavy, you might need to turn settings up to compensate if it's not on par with your card

[plucky pebble]

3700x

[limber garden]

^ there you go...

[solar minnow]

Nice

[plucky pebble]

I mean before of 4.0 i ran it on a i9 9900ks and still the same fps

[uncut bay]

yes, some cases are to do with inadequate specs, but it's undeniable that the game performs worse than it should as a result of scale being doubled

[still vault]

I got a 3900X, get like 80-120 depending on settings and situation. The single core speed of the 3000 series doesn't play that nice with 2042 which likes 1 or 2 very fast cores.

[queen crypt]

for now yes, but its not like its literally gone forever, they might bring it back, they might not, but they have the option to do it if they want to

[solar minnow]

or they can just leave it as a option like before.

[uncut bay]

completely irrelevant to the conversation

not about whether 128p should have stayed or not

[plucky pebble]

Remember when bf titles had good support for amd sadge

[hot bronze]

I think we might see a return of 128BT if there is a big enough player increase and out cry for it. but we only have hope of higher player rates after season one drops.

[still vault]

Not a AMD support issue, it's a single core performance issue.

[queen crypt]

real

[dapper berry]

it's probably gonna come back as a LTM

[plucky pebble]

But the use on 2042 is surreal like max is 50%

[torpid shuttle]

Hello there

[limber garden]

Imagine games in 2021-2022 not liking multicore and multithread setting

[plucky pebble]

Thats what i mean

[solar minnow]

lmao

[olive lake]

So apparently the performance is now worse

[still vault]

Total CPU usage is not the same as single core speed sadly. Otherwise my 12 cores 24 threads would run 2042 amazingly.

[plucky pebble]

Its not like csgo to be really using 2 cores at max

[solar minnow]

yup, it's bad

[olive lake]

Small update or not yeah that's awful.

[still vault]

Played a game, was the same performance for me.

[plucky pebble]

Dark times for 3xxx users in here

[olive lake]

And the fact we still have nothing on 5.0 is just not good

Like we're not informed at all as to what's going on.

[solar minnow]

you must be one of the lucky ones

[uncut bay]

i'm guessing they'll drop a trailer next month at some point

[plucky pebble]

Isnt this new update stutterfield?

[uncut bay]

also wow the new paik skin is actually really cool

[olive lake]

They still have a lot to fix before they can go about showing off season one if you ask me

[plucky pebble]

Which one

[tacit sphinx]

what are the challenges/reward?

[olive lake]

Unless S1 is gonna deliver on all those fixes as well?

[tacit sphinx]

oh neat

[uncut bay]

shame i've already got T1, so i won't use it. Still cool to have though

[solar minnow]

nice

[queen crypt]

Joker (2019)

[ember nimbus]

Interesting
Too bad I only play Sundance

[queen crypt]

is it just the headgear?

[olive lake]

Gonna go see if the progression is still fucked (it probably is)

[plucky pebble]

Not bad looks serious as it should've been

[uncut bay]

i want them to give us some sundance skins with a helmet. Feels dumb playing a wingsuiter without a helmet

[ember nimbus]

Tis why I want T1 so bad

[uncut bay]

it's head and body i'm assuming, since she has a blue camo

[queen crypt]

literally where is the trailer skin

[still vault]

It's in the current patch post

[ember nimbus]

And I can actually get T1 now that the grenades don't lock on to air vehicles all the time

[plucky pebble]

That and also to tape the mouths of them

[olive lake]

Yeah but remember what happened last time they said news would arrive early the following month? It was way past early

[uncut bay]

yeah i tried grinding it out in the first few weeks but the requirement is ridiculous, should count assists as well (if vehicle destroy assists actually existed lol)

[olive lake]

So I'm skeptical. Its still a lot of radio silence

[ember nimbus]

Does it?

[solar minnow]

i'm glad I got boris t1 before the update.

[plucky pebble]

Works for the hacker guy i guess with everything also works

[still vault]

Well, doesn't help when people don't read the posts and then claim EA didn't tell them 😉

[olive lake]

I don't read them because they mostly become lies anyways

[ember nimbus]

fAlSe AdVeRtIsInG

[plucky pebble]

Ooof

[solar minnow]

yeah one sentence is all we get...

[olive lake]

Granted, it comes out eventually but they've never stuck to their time.

[spring locust]

Is china still around in 2042 or were they taken out?

[solar minnow]

they gone

[plucky pebble]

Dont you know we got rid of them in bf4

[solar minnow]

just US and RU

[spring locust]

Like wiped out in a storm?

[ember nimbus]

The Only "factions" you play as are US and Russia

[still vault]

Erhm, not quite true.

[solar minnow]

who else is there then?

[spring locust]

I remember us having one ship while we were surrounded.

[uncut bay]

we don't really know. It's kinda dumb that a faction as significant and powerful as china just became irrelevant in 22 years

[plucky pebble]

Operators

[jovial quest]

The new weekly looks cool

[ember nimbus]

Hardly

[spring locust]

Ikr, I was just thinking about that while playing bf4

I assume the only surviving nations in 2042 are Russia and United States

[uncut bay]

not really, but they are the only two superpowers left

[ember nimbus]

There are more then those two nations

[solar minnow]

it's easy. Dice only wants to major factions

[spring locust]

Nah

[solar minnow]

lore is out the window anyways

[plucky pebble]

Bring special forces pls

[uncut bay]

lots of countries are still going, and even thriving, though many have been destroyed by war and (un)natural disasters

[ember nimbus]

The specialists kind of are

The multiplayer matches are part of a proxy war between the US and Russia

[plucky pebble]

If they focused more on making them like that that would be a nice fix

[solar minnow]

so what russian and us are fighting in their countries and they thriving like whatever.

[still vault]

Imo. the 2042 lore is not fleshed out, all we know is that there is a war between US and RU and no pats from all over the world have to join sides to survive.

[ember nimbus]

A 2042 campaign would have been dope asf

[uncut bay]

i doubt they're thriving, but they're the two most powerful ones. I know SK is one of the ones that's thriving, though that obviously changed slightly when the war reached it

[cedar turtle]

Fuck the lore. Give me death!

[solar minnow]

which is why I said the lore is thrown out the window.

[plucky pebble]

Fr

[jovial quest]

Lore in battlefield LOL

[plucky pebble]

Confirmed campaign for 2042 boys

[uncut bay]

that's what i've been saying since we got the reveal. It's the perfect setting for war stories, we could see refugees and fighters from around the world and how they're dealing with the apocalypse

[ember nimbus]

I mean their equipment is very special-forces-esque

[jovial quest]

Only lore I need is the Easter egg. Lore

[still vault]

New lore. What we do know is that the EU disbanded.

[cedar turtle]

Kick RU out

[spring locust]

They should have done a campaign instead of hazard zone, cant find a game ever anyway

[surreal crystal]

new drop wen doe

[plucky pebble]

So russia won after all

[jovial quest]

[solar minnow]

oh yeah, I figured that out by the trailers and maps.

[olive lake]

Yeeeup progression still fucking sucks

[ember nimbus]

We also know that there is a global communication and internet blackout

[solar minnow]

yes

[plucky pebble]

The bf4 easter eggs pls

[cedar turtle]

yeah but was that just an excuse as to why we didn't have VC from the start?

[jovial quest]

BF1

[solar minnow]

russian won. EU disbanded gives them a big advantage.

[uncut bay]

no lol that was part of the lore

don't think they've given in lore explanations for why features are missing

[plucky pebble]

Or is it

[solar minnow]

NATO is gone too

[still vault]

Given the lore blaming it on Germanys collapse I'm guessing the storms and following devastation did it.

[jovial quest]

Germans

[ember nimbus]

I said global communication, not short-range communication

[cedar turtle]

So what are we fighting for?

[solar minnow]

if NATO is gone they won

[jovial quest]

Always be starting stuff

[ember nimbus]

Idk if you noticed but radio commands work lol

[low timber]

Are hovercrafts immune to AT mines? One has hovered over my mines about 4 times now.

[still vault]

The earth in 2042 is pretty much devastated and is trying to rebuild. Nobody won.

[plucky pebble]

For content

[next onyx]

Fucked if I know what the soldiers are fighting for. You're just there to kill Americans and Russians lol.

[cedar turtle]

For the secret to KFC's secret ingredients

[next onyx]

Or people aligned with it.

[ember nimbus]

Hired by US and RU to fight a proxy war

[solar minnow]

from political stand point they did. I mean they threaten to use nukes for god sakes.

[ember nimbus]

They use proxies to provide a layer of separation and plausible deniability

[plucky pebble]

Renewal pretty much explains it

[cedar turtle]

Typical governments

[still vault]

Don't bring in IRL to this.

[solar minnow]

they should add nukes lmao

[ember nimbus]

Why

[next onyx]

Finally, Got renewal. A good map.

[solar minnow]

I mean it's russian character. has nothing to do with IRL

[plucky pebble]

Bad company 2 campaign

[plucky pebble]

L take

[next onyx]

Oh that reminds me, I need to finish command and conquer red alert 2.

It's a better map in comparison to the rest of maps.

[ember nimbus]

Renewal has its moments but I'm not a huge fan of the map imo

[next onyx]

Yeah it's fun round C and D.

That's where I stick around.

[plucky pebble]

The one with crates is for me the best gives me dawnbreaker vibes

[cedar turtle]

Car and Driver!?

[next onyx]

I love getting flanks through the office in C.

kek.

Easy with Mackay.

[ember nimbus]

Mackay is the only map I play a character other then Sundance

[still vault]

Way more likely that the weather devastation in 2042 destroyed so many countries that a defensive alliance between countries didn't make sense. But that is all speculation ofc.

[solar minnow]

makes sense though.

[fervent grotto]

Same, except I occasionally play Casper

[ember nimbus]

The multi-billlion-strong refugee crisis caused one or two small issues I think as well

[fervent grotto]

I just like mobility so much

[solar minnow]

dang so angel revives don't give armor anymore?

[fervent grotto]

Oh I thought it was the incredible amount of natural resources that are lowering and being destroyed. But maybe that’s just a little bit

[plucky pebble]

Their best fix so far

[rapid moon]

Anyone try the update yet?

[ember nimbus]

I mean yeah that too

[fervent grotto]

There was an update?

[solar minnow]

angel can't give armor at all

[rapid moon]

Oh is it not out yet?

[fervent grotto]

Yea you can only self apply now

[quasi mortar]

If you have the soflam equipped and use the gun on the LATV it counts as spot assists as well

[still vault]

The Angel and Boris nerfs are quite substantial imo.

[solar minnow]

his revives don't give armor either

[rapid moon]

Yes and theyre also fair aswell imo

[plucky pebble]

Nerf them to the ground 😡

[fervent grotto]

No I just didn’t even know that there was an update supposed to come out. I’m not exactly top of the news feed for this game

[fervent grotto]

Deserved

[soft swallow]

New update it's unplayble D:

[rapid moon]

Oh yeah pretty big update dropped today lots of balance changes

[rapid moon]

Wdym?

[soft swallow]

Instabilty issues

[solar minnow]

it's actually really small. also adds lag

[rapid moon]

Its big in the sense that i lt changes a lot of stuff

[fervent grotto]

Oh wow that’s perfect I didn’t lag enough already

[rapid moon]

What platform?

[cedar turtle]

Lag is a feature, you should be thanking us

[solar minnow]

it's more like a bunch of tweaks and 3 big things with balance that's it

[fervent grotto]

“Legacy” feature

[soft swallow]

Pc

[still vault]

Boris was a nice counter to the zipline and flying squirrel people which I fear have gotten too much of a buff with these changes but will play some more and see how it goes.

[solar minnow]

Yeah sundance is OP now

[cedar turtle]

Season ...... lags Whu- ......lags ..... On- ....... Season One

[solar minnow]

she's the new boris lmao

[fervent grotto]

I call it Batman-ing someone

[river trench]

Is update good?

[solar minnow]

is meh

[fervent grotto]

Hey my brother

[river trench]

Yo sup

[soft swallow]

No it suck

[fervent grotto]

What’s the new weekly challenge? Does anyone know?

[solar minnow]

yeah it's paik skin

[soft swallow]

Paik skin

It's kinda ok but bro the game is unplayble

[fervent grotto]

Come tf on

[solar minnow]

white and purple camo

[fervent grotto]

Why

[solar minnow]

cause they don't like us

it's pretty clear after this patch.

[soft swallow]

Yup

They literally nerfed recoil what the fuck

[solar minnow]

they had a good roll there then fall flat at the last step to S1

[hot bronze]

See idk why but im not having this rubber banding issues ppl are talking about

[solar minnow]

what are you playing on?

[hot bronze]

PC

[torpid shuttle]

6 months for season 1 ?
But BF live service is only 2 years right?

[solar minnow]

samehere and not sure why but it's happening to me and a lot of others

[jolly gulch]

128 conquest is still there no?

[hot bronze]

no

[soft swallow]

0.4.0 was better

[solar minnow]

way better

[still vault]

As I recall a season is 6 months. Don't think there was ever a definitive post about the length of the live service.

[torpid shuttle]

BF2042 should have 5+ years live service

[solar minnow]

not happening lol

[torpid shuttle]

OH NO I FORGET.... MY FEEDBACK IS BRUTAL EXPECTATION

[hollow verge]

this update is good?

[soft swallow]

Anyway, they have to nerf movements in my opinion, ok that Battlefield it's based on run 'n gun technic but this is too much

[solar minnow]

no

[flat tusk]

If you like 128 breakthrough, no

[torpid shuttle]

Never good...

[soft swallow]

I"m just warning you, it's literally unplayble, they literally nerfed recoil and there is a big instability performances

[ember nimbus]

It'sliterally unplayable? Interesting

[soft swallow]

Yeah

[hot bronze]

If you dont care about 128BT and arnt having the rubber banding issue. then its great lol

[shell ermine]

I saw an impression from a poor soul who still is playing this game that the controls on console has seemingly been fixed so now it controls almost as well as BFV.

[naive sandal]

I've just played a few games - gunplay might have improved a little

[ember nimbus]

So it isn't literally unplayable

[solar minnow]

after playing 64 player breakthrough on this. I had to wash my eyes with bfv breakthrough lol

[shell ermine]

I miss Fortress in BFV on Hamada

[still vault]

Why miss it, just play it 🙂

[solar minnow]

it's still good

[shell ermine]

Its not available anymore

Hasn't been since 2019

[solar minnow]

yeah, if they remove that and never brought it back then 128 breakthrough ain't coming back.

[shell ermine]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LMXe4fUkiFI

[next onyx]

You can't play fortress anymore.

[uncut bay]

rubberbanding sucks, i see what people mean. Performance seems about the same for me

[stone cradle]

It's still there though..

[vivid oracle]

What is the weekly mission?

[naive sandal]

Ha definitely not "unplayable"

[quasi pendant]

🤣

[vivid oracle]

@naive sandal gonna just ignore my question

[next onyx]

It's confirmed. With the buff of the SCAR my enjoyment of the game has increased dramatically.

So glad I got it to tier 1 before it's buff.

[ember nimbus]

I loved it before the buff

[naive sandal]

Did not see your ques, I'm a discord noob

[next onyx]

I wasn't the biggest fan of it.

It was a good aiming gun, You know. A gun good for practicing your aim.

[ember nimbus]

Switched to standard issue and all of a sudden it felt so much better

[next onyx]

And it is still that but now it can compete better against some of the big boys.

[shell ermine]

Its not like there is a lot of choices for ARs

[next onyx]

Yeah give it a try now with High impact.

[ember nimbus]

I might

But I like the increased RoF from standard issue

[naive sandal]

Dunno about weekly mission, couldn't care any less about it lol

[calm bison]

So actual truth about this update - is the rubberbanding so bad consistent across all setups or is this series s player gonna be fine

[calm bison]

Honestly it looks pretty good

[still vault]

No rubberbanding here

[next onyx]

They're server issues.

It'll take some while until they're ironed out.

SCAR 2.4 KPM let's go.

[low timber]

Oh yeah, the AK-24 hyper burst, need to check it out.

The AK-24 still has single shot mode.
And the ”hyper” burst doesn’t feel exactly hyper

[still vault]

Whenever a patch arrives a bunch of people will have unrelated issues that they blame on the game because they happen to start at the same time. Seen it every patch for every game 😄

[hot bronze]

just unlocked it. Thought it wasnt going to look good. I kind like it.

[still vault]

Currently unlocking it myself

[tacit sphinx]

tbf i don’t know that it was actually supposed to be hyperburst officially, people saw slightly increased RoF for the burst and went “yep that’s hyper”

when the AN94’s hyperburst is about twice as fast

[ember nimbus]

Isn't it like 1800 rpm or something absurd

[tacit sphinx]

yeah

vs the AK’s new burst fire is like 900

[uncut bay]

it's pretty nice

[tacit sphinx]

still a high rate of fire but i think by definition not a hyperburst

[ember nimbus]

It was so high that it jammed all the time and caused a bunch of issues

[tacit sphinx]

yeah it’s an interesting concept but massively over engineered with kinda minimal benefits

makes for a cool gun in a game though

[ember nimbus]

Yeah russian manufacturing wasn't quite where it needed to be for hyperburst to work well

[fervent grotto]

Ok can someone tell me what genius decided the SCAR should start with high power rounds?

[ember nimbus]

It makes sense if you know the round it shoots irl

[dapper berry]

this is the way

[river trench]

Me

[fervent grotto]

Yes but why not just it the standard rounds? I know the SCAR hits hard but why does it have to start of with the worst rounds in the game?

[ember nimbus]

Doesn't the pkp start with high-power?

[stiff pollen]

? Worst rounds?

[fervent grotto]

Yea. High power is the worst

[stiff pollen]

Sometimes I open this server and get the weirdest takes

High power is ass on most guns but then there’s a few that are worth it

[fervent grotto]

Snipers are the only gun where high power is good

Otherwise it’s trash

[silk surge]

Gotta say, I'm loving the lack of boltes running around

[still vault]

My mines kinda miss them

[fervent grotto]

Fuck boltes fr. Such a overpowered vehicle and it’s not even armored. That’s why the MAB isn’t used. I think the MAB and bolte should swap places

[ember nimbus]

I mean the bolte was by no means a fragile vehicle

[tacit sphinx]

they. literally have in the patch

[fervent grotto]

Fr?

[tacit sphinx]

MAV is now a transport, bolte is now an armoured vehicle

[hot bronze]

yup

[fervent grotto]

Less go

[tacit sphinx]

me when the patch notes exist and said this pretty clearly

[fervent grotto]

Fuck the Bolte. All my homies hate the Bolte

[fervent grotto]

Listen bro I’m not exactly reading every patch note for this game and I’m not at home so I had zero idea

[hot bronze]

I activly hunt them

[silk surge]

I already have bolte at T1, so am good.

[hot bronze]

You are the worst

[fervent grotto]

📸📸📸📸📸🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[ember nimbus]

Bolte is fun

[fervent grotto]

Bolte is for toddlers who just learned to walk

[silk surge]

If it makes you feel better, I also have nightbird at T1.

[ember nimbus]

Though they're an easy target for aircraft

[fervent grotto]

Ok I really want the weapon tree back. I miss that in BFV

[silk surge]

It was too simplistic tbh.

They should buff the bolte now, considering that it's a lot harder to spawn one.

[fervent grotto]

No the current system now is way to simplistic. You just pick the best combinations of all the weapons and it never changes. In BFV you could build tanks for certain purposes. Plus you didn’t get to have all the good stuff. You had to pick and choose. The system now is lame

[fervent grotto]

No. Nope. No way..

[ember nimbus]

Make the missiles better

[solar bone]

buff the bolte??

[silk surge]

The missiles straight up one shotted helis before this patch.

[ember nimbus]

Make it so that you don't have to fire the missiles basically directly at the thing you want to target

[hot bronze]

no one wants that

stop it

[ember nimbus]

Factually incorrect

[fervent grotto]

You and like two other people want the Bolte buffed

[hot bronze]

I think they need to go back too the bf4 style and have a specific amount of each vehicle you can spawn. its easer to balance a map that way too

[ember nimbus]

What's your proposal for a bolte buff

[fervent grotto]

Deleting the Bolte from the game

[solar bone]

bolte dont need buff

[low timber]

Swap 30mm to 50mm to fight against tanks?

[fervent grotto]

That’s my buff

[warped pulsar]

How is the update?

[hot bronze]

doesnt it already have a two ?

[marsh bay]

laggy

[ember nimbus]

I think it should be relegated to infantry and light vehicles

[low timber]

Minigun, 30mm and TOW

[hot bronze]

I like it. but im not having lag or rubber band issues

[ember nimbus]

Considering it is now in the same category as the Tank

And just making a worse tank in the same category as the tank doesn't quite add up to me

[warped pulsar]

Is the 64p helping the fps for most?

[hot bronze]

well there is still 128 conquest and it feels good. 64p BT feels good too. getting full games too

[grizzled whale]

not even 12 hours since the update, and people already swapped out camping backwards with a bolte for camping backwards with a LATv

[solar bone]

Why they nerf Angel?

[grizzled whale]

because armor is aids

[hot bronze]

If you take away the controversy of removing 128BT. I really like the patch changes so far.

[solar bone]

so delete it totally

[warped pulsar]

Gonna give it a spin later on

[vale gale]

How do you hide the chat?

[solar bone]

H

[hot bronze]

"H"

[vale gale]

Thanks

[fossil trench]

Hahaha

[hot bronze]

I would be ok with armor being removed

[hot bronze]

there will always be back campers

[fossil trench]

I’d take the MAV over the bolte any day honestly

[grizzled whale]

my 57mm wildcat just deletes the latvs so im fine with it

[low timber]

At least on the LATV you can shoot them from the back even if they have the boxes there.

[fossil trench]

MAV is big and relatively slow. Much better than the bolte

Bolte is much more cancer

[solar minnow]

MAV is with transport.

[hot bronze]

I like that change

[grizzled whale]

Idk why but i found this extremely hilarious

[solar minnow]

no recoil?

[grizzled whale]

i got 5 kills like that which werent recorded

[next onyx]

Kek.

[grizzled whale]

hearing that many footsteps this seemed like a solid strat

[next onyx]

Talking about footsteps.

I'm hearing them a little more.

[grizzled whale]

i never had issues with it, i could hear someone walking at the rocket in orbital while vibing on kaleidoscope

[fossil trench]

Definitely 💯

[next onyx]

Yeah I can't find the right sound setting.

[fossil trench]

Though I think they were part of a previous update. I was playing yesterday and it was pretty noticeable

[sweet barn]

what did the update fix tldr?

[grizzled whale]

also, i got ultra instinct and can now dodge bullets i totally didnt swap to postol instead of the shotgun

[solar minnow]

Mackay mains in a nutshell. lol

[grizzled whale]

wym

[solar minnow]

being sneaky and using lmg with shot gun shells.

[next onyx]

Hey skipper what do you use to edit clips?

[grizzled whale]

i record with shadowplay and then use a free online cutting tool

[next onyx]

Ahhh fair.

[solar minnow]

basics

[grizzled whale]

no idea what you mean

[last swift]

[silk surge]

wat, I play Mackay all the time and am like 200 or something

[solar minnow]

lmao

[grizzled whale]

sadly cuz i record in 1080p60 i can only upload around 40 second clips to discord

[forest snow]

Getting more frames but more stuttering

[grizzled whale]

thats called gitting gud

[solar minnow]

you can use editing software to lower the quality. lol

[grizzled whale]

i can also record in 720p

but i dont want to

[silk surge]

I love how they finally fixed the camera angle on melee takedowns.

[grizzled whale]

honestly its probably just because i like to camp on elevated spots near objectives

and since its kills from above it makes sense

[rancid jacinth]

How's the update?

[grizzled whale]

also i got almost double your mackay kills

[half sequoia]

any ideas why they deleted breaktrough 128?

[grizzled whale]

because it was unbalanced and nobody was playing it

[half sequoia]

sheesh i was playing it 24/7 lmaoooo

sad

[rancid jacinth]

Atleast there will be better performance

[last swift]

breaktrough 128 is only fun as an attacker 😅

[arctic grove]

Man that’s prob the most we’ll get of 1st person takedowns

[arctic grove]

Oh well, looks clean tho

[vale gale]

bruh this game

even the loading icon is rubberbanding ffs

[royal swan]

Man these weekly mission always have a partner skin. Like the new lean skin goes well with the previous weapon skin

The universal ice skin we got previous to the previous skin does well with Angels snow skin

[frosty mural]

Nasty..

[frosty mural]

It's been doing that since day 1

[fiery zenith]

It's even worse now

[royal swan]

I see no difference except better weapon handling and performance with breakthrough

Thank God the turret is nerfed

[elder patrol]

That turret use to ruin my streaks lol

[royal swan]

So fucking glad

[sinful citrus]

Lag????

[royal swan]

Something been in the game since launch

[sinful citrus]

Yes

[royal swan]

So why the four ?

[sinful citrus]

there is no need to clear the cache anymore

[royal swan]

What cache

[sinful citrus]

Chace of the game

For no stuttering

[cedar turtle]

what they need to do is

[fiery zenith]

Delete the update

[jovial quest]

No

[flat tusk]

So instead of balancing they delete the game mode

[warped pulsar]

Heard there was stutter, is it really shader cache?

[elder patrol]

My ntw feels different

[honest comet]

which mode they dropped?

[flat tusk]

128 breakthrough

[honest comet]

ah didnt even play that mode

they left the 64 player one which i play?

[warped pulsar]

Played a few 128 last night, hopefully lobbies will be full.

[elder patrol]

Would be funny if the 64p lobbies were also just bots

[flat tusk]

Yep

[flat tusk]

Only Conquest has 128 now

[silk surge]

[LAUGHS IN PS5]

[fossil trench]

New weekly mission yet?

[elder patrol]

Yeah, and its ugly

[fossil trench]

What bugs are there now lmao. Oh dice…

[grizzled whale]

then you dont understand how coding works

[fiery zenith]

Neither does Dice kekw

[edgy oriole]

Ew the weekly skin is hex

[lyric snow]

guys u having the micro stutters rn too?

[drowsy sapphire]

Hello

[lucid goblet]

they're aware of the stuttering issues atm see #direct-communication

[lyric snow]

oh ok

[edgy oriole]

The sprit of 128bt is striking down.

[drowsy sapphire]

Already has

They… they took it from me………… from all of us..

[hexed mango]

renewal in real life where we dropping!? (Nevada)

[sturdy prism]

What is this week's weekly reward?

[hexed mango]

joe

[fossil trench]

Ugly Paik skin

[iron thistle]

15 gig download just to remove stuff from the game and add stuttering issues .... very nice

[grizzled whale]

ill drop near the solar panels

[cobalt trail]

64 breakthrough is such a snoozefest

[grizzled whale]

also kinda looks like burning man

[thick lance]

Who would have thought that DICE would drop an update with issues 🙂

[royal swan]

Not ugly skin, lean skin

[fossil trench]

It’s blue camo skin

[chilly oak]

15gb u good?!

[fossil trench]

Wtf do you use blue camo for

[chilly oak]

There's no way

[royal swan]

Looks more lean than blue

More purple actually

Goes well with the previous dark blue weapon skin

[haughty raft]

I am afraid to download the update

[royal swan]

Afraid of what

[sturdy prism]

Show

[sturdy prism]

I wish

[fossil trench]

Just log in or check Twitter

[haughty raft]

Do you really have to ask

[fossil trench]

I can’t send images

[sturdy prism]

Am in class, send in dms

[royal swan]

Yes I do.

There shouldn't be anything to be afraid of

[haughty raft]

Mostly satire, obviously nothing is going to happen if I download the update I’m just dreading the potential bugs

[haughty raft]

Ew, Hex camo

[royal swan]

There is like one main bug and it's stuttering which is already addressed

[royal swan]

Lean

[haughty raft]

Looks Periwinkle

[royal swan]

Dark lean actually.

[haughty raft]

I don’t think lean is a color

[sturdy prism]

Lean camo

[tacit sphinx]

the model for the outfit is nice, the hood and the vest

[royal swan]

Meme color

Basically purple

[haughty raft]

Bro what lol even if I acknowledged lean as a color lean looks like grape soda

[night vessel]

I like how reddit is complaing about the skin yet IRL South K have those uniforms

[royal swan]

Lol

Reddit can be stupid

[haughty raft]

Reddit is stupid

[royal swan]

You right

[solar minnow]

funny it's naval camo yet there is no naval in the game lmao

[waxen hinge]

:] still condors and hinds everywhere

[shy latch]

tbh I'm not happy at all about Angel's armour plate removal, about Boris' turret it needed a nerf but right now imo is too much nerfed

[solar minnow]

yeah with less players they are OP

[night vessel]

DICE did say there will be naval maps coming

[solar minnow]

where did they say that?

[royal swan]

Angel nerf was confusing but Boris turret was a well deserved nerf

[waxen hinge]

R H I B B O A T !!!

I saw someone giving out ammo with caspers drone

[haughty raft]

Both of the nerfs are justified lol

[night vessel]

cause if you look at it they also doing that

[tacit sphinx]

angel was a bit much before considering his range of abilities

[solar minnow]

datamine doesn't mean it official XD

[topaz field]

Thank you Dice devs update 4.1 is awesome on PS4 slim. Guns feel alot better now. Whatever y'all did keep that same energy for season 1 or I'm coming to Stockholm to help y'all fix the problem 🤣

[royal swan]

Angel should change to a vehicle support specialist, repairing faster than other specialist

[tacit sphinx]

give ammo + armour + full resupply/switch loadouts on the fly + revive anybody

[royal swan]

With added buffs

[shy latch]

as I said it needed a nerf, but this nerf that they applied is too much

[night vessel]

I mean most datamined things became official release

[tacit sphinx]

he still gives armour when reviving people as far as i know

[topaz field]

No .... Get rid of armor. I'm glad I was able to shred some angels today not using body armor felt great

[haughty raft]

Armor has no place in this game, period

[tacit sphinx]

what? that was his ability set before the patch

[solar minnow]

no they don't look at bfv... jeez that game has a lot of stuff unused in the files

[royal swan]

The loadout crate should just change to a glorified ammo and health crate that has a minute and a half cool down

[topaz field]

It shouldn't be in the game move it to hazard zone

[tacit sphinx]

i'd quite like to see armour be vaulted from the main game

[haughty raft]

Agreed

[topaz field]

Exactlyyyy

[night vessel]

BFV is a dead game

[waxen hinge]

:] I like the angel nerf

[royal swan]

[topaz field]

I love 💕 it

[solar minnow]

lmao nice comeback

[haughty raft]

It’s not though it has 10x the players as 2042 on steam

[tacit sphinx]

the loadout crate thing is fine imo

[elder patrol]

I love the turret nerf 😂

[waxen hinge]

Now we just have to remove armor plates. Not every game needs to be warzone

[solar minnow]

TRUE

[topaz field]

Loadout crate shouldn't include gadgets imo

[night vessel]

sure but you need to understand that it's dead to me I never liked the game

[cerulean rain]

is there any news on the lag studder?

[solar minnow]

nah they are good. atleast angel needs somethings.

[haughty raft]

Alright then you should have said the game is dead to me

[tacit sphinx]

https://twitter.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1527301988358053888

Battlefield Direct Communication (@BattlefieldComm)

Our teams are investigating an issue which has appeared alongside the release of Update 4.1 today #Battlefield

The issue is causing instances of micro-stutters on PC at irregular intervals

We will update this thread with more information as we complete our investigations

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Twitter · May 19, 2022, 2:55 PM

[lucid goblet]

#direct-communication

[waxen hinge]

Since the update vcar be thwapin

[night vessel]

my Fav BF games so far BF2, BF2142, BF3, BF4 & Bad Company games.

[haughty raft]

No please I hate microstutter

[tacit sphinx]

vcar has been underrated for a bit, it's actually pretty solid

but sounds like it did get a slight improvement in 4.1 as well

[elder patrol]

So does the lever action

[royal swan]

Loadout crate should give large ammo, less health, and repairs nearby vehicles slowly. But recharge is long and won't reset upon death. Easily destroyed.

[solar minnow]

this update made the game feels so much more casual.

[cerulean rain]

i always thought the ac42 on semi was better then pretty much all the dmrs

[waxen hinge]

M1 mastery ^^

[solar minnow]

what happen to the recoil??

[forest snow]

K30 is still cancer I see

[waxen hinge]

Red badge for lever

[elder patrol]

Hell yeahhhh

[solar minnow]

they won't touch it for awhile.

[forest snow]

Nerfed into the ground season 1 I hope

[waxen hinge]

K30 needs higher recoil. Or because its a vector, downwards recoil

[tacit sphinx]

k30 is good up close but there's far better options generally lol

[haughty raft]

K30 is awful tf?

[solar minnow]

no, I think this was the last balance.

[river trench]

People be waiting battlefield on instgram to post anything so they can comment "Refund" 🤦‍♂️

[elder patrol]

K30 is pretty good

[solar minnow]

k30 smacks

[royal swan]

Refund is a joke at this point

[tacit sphinx]

mp9 is better than the k30 people just go "hehe 1000rpm" and then you get a bunch of people using it because of that

[haughty raft]

Sure the K30 smacks but have fun having no ammo after killing three people

[elder patrol]

Angel lol

[haughty raft]

MP9 outclasses the K30 hard for ammo efficiency alone

[solar minnow]

it's called resupply...

[haughty raft]

That’s not the point

[solar minnow]

then whats the point?

[royal swan]

We need angel to be a vehicle support. It fits lore and repairing is like underused

[night vessel]

MP9 has a more damage output than K30

[haughty raft]

The point is I can run an MP9 without an ammo box and I have to run the K30 with an ammo box

[solar minnow]

last thing we need is a over powered repair tool.

[solar minnow]

Okay, still doesn't make sense but okay.

[haughty raft]

Don’t think I can dumb it down any further.

[royal swan]

Still the most underused item

[solar minnow]

well you also pick up ammo from dead enemies sooo?

[tacit sphinx]

good luck sustaining ammo unless you've got like 100% accuracy and are in a position to pick up ammo from every enemy you kill somehow lol

[royal swan]

Seriously, are we actually picking up dropped ammo from enemies

[haughty raft]

You’re still missing the point. At face value the K30 is terrible with ammo. Doesn’t matter if I have an ammo box or I pick up ammo off enemies or if Angel resupplies me. I could have a whole team of 63 throw me an ammo box and the K30 is still inefficient with ammo

[solar minnow]

with 64 players it's easy

[tacit sphinx]

it just will be a net decrease and because of the fire rate it tends to burn through it pretty quickly

[solar minnow]

I think it comes down to skill.

[elder patrol]

I wish we could customize scope reticles

[haughty raft]

You don’t wanna go there

[tacit sphinx]

like the k30 is good but the fact that it's seen as meta is funny because it's not actually that great, even among the SMGs there are better options

[solar minnow]

can't think of anything else. to each there own.

[haughty raft]

Picked up the Bizon again recently, wayyyyyy nicer having that slower fire rate with higher damage

[tacit sphinx]

mp9 basically does everything the k30 does but without burning through your ammo reserves in half the time, and with much better usability at range

[royal swan]

I wish the scar didn't have that grenade launcher, would looked cooler

[tacit sphinx]

the bizon is like the assault rifle of smgs, really solid gun still

[solar minnow]

Honestly, the guns feel more causal but maybe thats just me.

[arctic grove]

whats this weeks skin?

[haughty raft]

I just don’t understand how someone can say the K30 is broken when there are way better guns lol

[elder patrol]

Blue face paint for paik

[solar minnow]

might even say Call of Duty casual.

[haughty raft]

Basically a naval hex skin for Paik

[royal swan]

Purple skin for paik. Or lean skin

[solar minnow]

naval skin for naval warfare ;D

[smoky plank]

spirit or ghost in Korean folklore

[haughty raft]

The more I think about it, I can’t think of any gun that outclasses another completely. I do think guns are pretty balanced rn

[elder patrol]

Hey they said they got rid of the 1 bullet fire mode for ak24 right??

[haughty raft]

Yes but they increased the RPM for the burst fire mode to compensate

[elder patrol]

I still have the option for 1 bullet lol

[tacit sphinx]

i heard that the semi auto mode is still in the game lol

[hot bronze]

it didnt make it in the patch

[haughty raft]

Weird

[solar minnow]

yeah still there lol

[tacit sphinx]

probably better off lol i don't think the semi auto needed to be binned for an improved burst fire

[hot bronze]

the buff to the burst is there though

[haughty raft]

Yep that one was a head scratcher for sure

[solar minnow]

they increase the RPM to 900

[elder patrol]

Yeah the 2 burst is nice

[hot bronze]

only for the burst, and there is still a long pause between shots

[solar minnow]

it's like shooting fish in the barrel.

[hot bronze]

its still realy good

[arctic grove]

Bro i dont even use paik

[solar minnow]

not many do.

[tacit sphinx]

honestly i tended to prefer using semi auto over the burst anyway, easier to spam fire

[solar minnow]

just like the Rao skin. Nobody uses him...

[tacit sphinx]

paik is a solid one for clearing out an area, also just for general sniping tbh

[haughty raft]

mfw I bound my fire button to my scroll wheel

[hot bronze]

I would have agreed yesterday. burst is better then semi now IMO

[tacit sphinx]

considering the spot-on-damage thing she has since 4.0 it makes tracking an enemy at long range for the follow up easier

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i havent played the patch yet so it's probably a better option now

[solar minnow]

you'll love the stuttering if they don't fix soon.

[haughty raft]

Man the VCAR really slapping today

It’s like the Gewher 1-5 from BFV

[tacit sphinx]

i'm on ps4 so from what ive heard its a non issue lol

[hot bronze]

at least they have already made a comment about it which is a good sign that its a big focus to fix

[solar minnow]

oh you'll have the rubberbanding then.

[hot bronze]

its a PC issue

[hard plume]

Hows the update going?

[haughty raft]

Evidently not well

[tacit sphinx]

yeah that was my point lol

[hard plume]

What happened?

[solar minnow]

PS4 ain't in the clear. The only one running good is PS5 and xbox series x

[obsidian zinc]

hey

how's the game?

[hot bronze]

there is a big stutter issue for some ppl with is update. but I do realy like this update

[solar minnow]

depends on who you ask

[elder patrol]

Idk tho, ac42 or ak24

[slate meadow]

why the f have they nerfed borris turret it was hard enough to get the 60k damage needed and now its even slower

[hot bronze]

There is a split with alot of ppl. 128BT was removed, some are mad. angel and boris got nerfd and alot are mad about that.

[slate meadow]

stupid devs

[solar minnow]

good luck getting tier 1.

[karmic cobalt]

Didn’t hear about angel nerf, what happened there?

[tacit sphinx]

it deed need a nerf, it sounds like it was a bit heavy handed on the turret though

[arctic grove]

I enjoyed the default gun the uhh m4a1

[hexed mango]

deed? lol

[hot bronze]

bc it was stupid and annoying to get aim botted from distance

[solar minnow]

I would say a lot of people are mad about 128bt being removed

[uncut bay]

supply bag no longer gives armor

[tacit sphinx]

he doesn't resupply armour with the supply pouches anymore which is fair

[tacit sphinx]

[karmic cobalt]

Oh that’s not too bad. Annoying for sure tho

[arctic grove]

I played 128 bt last night and it was chaoticly fun

[slate meadow]

seriously it takes like 15 seconds to start shooting i get the distance thing but to make tos fire up time longer and to get rid of its spotting ability is stupid as f

[hexed mango]

i’m glad about angel nerf and boris nerf, not glad about breakthrough removal

[uncut bay]

his kit was already good enough, just makes it more balanced

[hot bronze]

im glad armor is harder to get now.

[solar minnow]

it's there first step in making angel useless.

[hexed mango]

their*

[slate meadow]

if thats the case they need to nerf the amount of damage you need to get for tier 1

[hexed mango]

not useless, just less of a cuck

[solar minnow]

doubtful

[arctic grove]

Rip Angel and Boris users.

[hexed mango]

good

[uncut bay]

how people think angel is becoming useless is beyond me

[tacit sphinx]

turret i think could have stayed more or less how it was when unboosted, maybe tone it down a little in terms of range or something then primarily nerf the boost it gets from the turret operator trait

[solar minnow]

Yup now we lost two specialist. whos next.

[hot bronze]

angel is still good for users of ammo dump weapons

[arctic grove]

All angel can do is provide ammo

[slate meadow]

another great way to make the player base even smaller fuck about with the specialist that alot of people play

[honest comet]

man this ppl always cry, no matter what, before cry it was op now cry its useless lololol

[hot bronze]

This

[slate meadow]

im sure the devs are doing it on purpose to make the game fail

[solar minnow]

no used angel to give ammo. his shields help players push.

[uncut bay]

fast revive + auto armor, ammo and supply crate. People just want their favorite specialists to be overpowered

[tacit sphinx]

literally was the best/most versatile character in the game, literally still has revives that give armour, free ammo, and the loadout crate

[honest comet]

before breaktrough was shit delete it, now all wants to play it hahahahah

[arctic grove]

My money on Casper and paik or rao

[karmic cobalt]

Yeah the very core concept of him as a big man resupplying ammo just by default makes him good. It’s not like they’re gonna trash all that stuff to “balance” him

[hot bronze]

just simply push without armor

[solar minnow]

Paik is the most likely, with Mackay

[solar minnow]

then it would be a "meatgrind"

[honest comet]

bunch of crybabys

[arctic grove]

Mackay is sorta useles. All he has is the web sling hook

[honest comet]

also decide once and stick to it, not change opinion every update

[uncut bay]

then push elsewhere lol, if you find playing the game too hard without 20 extra health then maybe you need to rethink your strategy

[hot bronze]

BT has always been a grinder

[tacit sphinx]

literally that whole one extra bullet tops lol

[honest comet]

literally this

[hot bronze]

also This

[solar minnow]

hands down they will nerf Mackay soon. Most likey reduce has grapple distance. Just watch.

[tacit sphinx]

like i think armour should probably be removed across the board but also it doesn't make that much of a difference for angel to somehow be suddenly useless because he doesn't give armour considering everything else he can do lol

[solar minnow]

yeah smart when there is no cover lmao

[honest comet]

i mean its becomin annoying, why is comunity hating bf so much, ppl say angel op now when its nerf cry useless, ppl say breaktrough shit delete mode with 128, now they wanna play it

[uncut bay]

i agree, armor has no place in AOW

[hot bronze]

just make him also revive at full health. done

[slate meadow]

well i think thats me done with the game

[hardy leaf]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1527242053142433792?s=09

did the new update degraded the performance?

[slate meadow]

back to bf1 it is congrats dice devs you are doing a great job making backwards steps

[solar minnow]

I think a lot people feel this way after the patch.

[tacit sphinx]

i think it's fine as is unless they go on to remove armour from AOW entirely in which case it would obviously need reworking

[uncut bay]

some people are reporting worsened performance, i haven't noticed any change

unless you mean the rubberbanding, which is present

[slate meadow]

yep big stutters during fire fights for me after patch people shooting but there gun on my screen isnt even drawn

rubberbanding aswell

[hardy leaf]

not some, a lot of people are reporting i just checked out on twitter

[solar minnow]

Yeah it's crazy

[hardy leaf]

doesnt inspire much confidence before a season 1 update

[hot bronze]

why a rework? its not like a specialist that allows you to change your kit and throw ammo is bad? I would like to see his crate do a area ammo supply.

[uncut bay]

yeah same deal, dice has acknowledged the issue

[hardy leaf]

i think season 1 content will be loaded with a shitload of visual bugs lmao

[tacit sphinx]

i would say probably not full health revives otherwise falck loses like the one thing she has going for her, although i'm not sure what else you could do as a presumably revive related passive

[solar minnow]

I think that's given.

[hot bronze]

Honestly the specialist need to be focused more on giving there team a buff and not themselves.

[uncut bay]

hard to say, but so far they've been doing good with bugs. Depends on how much time they've left themselves for QA

[tacit sphinx]

what? i was referring to his passive trait of supplying armour when reviving a downed friendly, which isnt too bad as it is but if you remove armour from the game then no shit it would need to be looked at lol

[solar minnow]

We are QA lmao.

[uncut bay]

not having this conversation again

[solar minnow]

well the update proved you wrong sooo?

[tacit sphinx]

i guess you could link the passive to his supply crate and do aura resupplies, a few other specialists do have traits linked to their gadget

[uncut bay]

it didn't, but you can think what you like

[next onyx]

Armour should be changed to only provide a flak jacket.

That's all.

[hot bronze]

thats why I say just give health when reviving. I rather my medics do that anyways

[honest comet]

i dont really like that idea for full hp lol

[hot bronze]

So just explosive protection? not bad.

[solar minnow]

I can't wait to see what Season 1 is.

[tacit sphinx]

at that point though falck doesn't really have anything over angel, although you could just have it that support specialists revive to full anyway and then give falck something else as well lol

[honest comet]

i cant wait to see more hypocrits after next update 🙂

[tacit sphinx]

that would probably work

[hot bronze]

They are always lurking

[solar minnow]

The level they go to is unreal.

[uncut bay]

eh i'd rather specialists have less abilities than more. Don't see the need for angel to do a full health revive, he's an ammo-centered medic

[honest comet]

imma start screenshotin their stuff

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i do tend to agree, just that it wouldn't be an awful solution

[honest comet]

and lurk to destroy them

[elder patrol]

#fuckboristurret

[hot bronze]

I rather all specialist be team play focus.

[next onyx]

I wouldn't be opposed to Angel completely resupplying people who he revives.

[honest comet]

and yeah imma say it, specialists are fun addition to game

[solar minnow]

If you wanna make him a combat medic then get rid of armor and when he revives you. You also get ammo back.

[hot bronze]

that is a cool idea.

[tacit sphinx]

i think aura resupply on the crate would work alright as a "passive that is really just another feature of the gadget"

or yeah he gives you a certain amount of ammo when reviving, probably not a total resupply but a few mags of primary and secondary ammo

[solar minnow]

they are going to do that probably

[haughty raft]

Even with this nerf Angel is the strongest support in the game

[solar minnow]

it's the easiest way

[hot bronze]

I dont mind it though I think they could have kept them more role base. How the launched killed team play

[uncut bay]

yep, i still don't see any reason to play any other specialist

[hardy leaf]

they have fixed some bugs yeah and certainly they are trying but i feel bad for them, its such a hot mess they cant get out of it

[hot bronze]

I like Reo now. locking vehicles seems to help alot

[haughty raft]

Rao is amazing

[solar minnow]

Rao*

[honest comet]

i like casper

[solar minnow]

Irish is the only real character here.

[hot bronze]

I can see why ppl play but I just done use the drone.

[hot bronze]

he is pretty nice in this update

[honest comet]

im playin it coz cool skin haha

[uncut bay]

casper is nice but since his ability needs you to, well, not play the game, i tend to avoid him

[haughty raft]

C5 Drone < Resupply Drone

[hot bronze]

lol Looking good is half the battle

[tacit sphinx]

i rarely play as casper tbh the drone just feels like... idk, if i'm playing as him then i either never use the drone or just sit behind some crate and use the drone for the entire match to progress mastery

[solar minnow]

yeah, I used him for awhile. good at controlling grenade spam.

[tacit sphinx]

pretty much yeah, his passive is also basically useless

[hot bronze]

counters sundance pretty well

[arctic grove]

Wait until the drone is nerfed

[tacit sphinx]

i think the only time it might be usefull is if you were playing without audio or maybe with audio coming out of a tv

[solar minnow]

yeah the mini map kills his passive.

[hot bronze]

and being able to place his aps super fast now is nice.

[slate meadow]

i paid "£19 for this game and i feel ripped off

[tacit sphinx]

it already has been, got a bit of a nerf to range

[tacit sphinx]

i hate to say it but noone cares lol

[arctic grove]

yeah but i meant another one.

[solar minnow]

yeah, he's by far the most useful in terms of team play.

[uncut bay]

refund

[honest comet]

exactly hahah

[haughty raft]

Yeah join the party buddy I paid full price and then some

[slate meadow]

especially not dice lmfao

[honest comet]

its like gamin chair lol

[arctic grove]

Try paying 100 for the early beta access

[solar minnow]

ooof

[uncut bay]

i paid 60 for gold edition, i got my money's worth out of enjoyment and play time, though still waiting for the battlepasses

[slate meadow]

ooff ever since i paid full price for fallout 76 all those years ago i flat out refuse to pay full price and always wait for games to be out for afew months

[arctic grove]

Trust us Fam. Its an old build

[solar minnow]

Spent 5 bucks. then pick the season 1 for 15 so it's whatever. just enjoying the ride.

[honest comet]

u get killed 360 quickscope and u see shitty skin, not impressed, u get killed dumbest way but op skin, impressed

@hot bronze

hahah

[solar minnow]

I rock Mackey woody skin lmao

[slate meadow]

does anybody else get the bug where on your screen the nme doesnt even have there gun drawn but you get killed by them almost like your behind on time

[hot bronze]

I love how ppl with hundreds of ours say they want a refund. lets be honest, you got your moneys worth. being made there is a lake of new content is justifiable.

[hot bronze]

Facts

[haughty raft]

Gamers nowadays are super entitled

[uncut bay]

lmao i remember the redditor that made a post saying how he couldn't get a refund after 100 hours, dude got basically mocked by the person that got his request

[slate meadow]

i might actually have to go back to halo infinite now 🙄

[hot bronze]

understatement

[solar minnow]

infinite is bad

[slate meadow]

no worse then this

[tacit sphinx]

"i'm going to sue"
proceeds to get mocked by any lawyers they might approach

[honest comet]

also wdym casper is not the way to play game,tf that even means lol

[solar minnow]

true but there are better games

[uncut bay]

debatable

if it wasn't for S2 infinite would still be at the bottom of the barrel with 2042

[honest comet]

caracter is least op from all other ones

[slate meadow]

hey man atleast they didnt charge people £100