battlefield-2042

[swift plover]

-nods-

[foggy tundra]

other than tom opening his mouth

[swift plover]

Well I hope it is a rumor

[haughty dagger]

“Hey guys I have a ton of info on EA and what they’re going to do even consider F2P! More tomorrow!” Tomorrow comes “guys guys just wait I need more time” makes video “well I’m speculating portal will to F2P” no actual info was given lol. Just farming clicks and people are eating that shit up

[foggy tundra]

^

never trust gaming journalism

[gleaming dove]

Is it just me or are the 64 player game modes feeling way better than the 128 ones

[foggy tundra]

might be because the maps are smaller

[swift plover]

Hai (yes) Twiggs

[foggy tundra]

and feels more natural to you

and as someone who can speak japanese thats cringe

[earnest verge]

no u are correct, smaller maps and less player plays better, my personal sweet spot been smaller maps and 80 players

[gleaming dove]

It feels more balanced honestly. More clusttered and less empty space

[foggy tundra]

i love 128 p chaos tho

[gleaming dove]

Never tried 80 players

[swift plover]

Hehe I do love BF2042 tho

[gleaming dove]

I imagine 128 players in a small map

[earnest verge]

imagine framedrops

[gleaming dove]

Lmao

[foggy tundra]

whats a frame drop?

[swift plover]

That would be a mess, get killed by a random bullet

[earnest verge]

ok mr elon musk pc from the 5th dimension

[foggy tundra]

[gleaming dove]

True

[foggy tundra]

its a 3070

im just that good

[earnest verge]

ah so u ment "im also stuck on 30 fps"

[foggy tundra]

im stuck on 50+

[earnest verge]

Owen wilson says wow

[foggy tundra]

ahahahaha

[haughty dagger]

I get consistent 80-100 fps in 128 player.

[earnest verge]

i remember hating 64 players in battlefield 4 funny enough, i only played 48 player servers back in those days

[swift plover]

Anyway I got go... Have fun guys

[haughty dagger]

Depending on map ofc.

[gleaming citrus]

ps3/xbox 360 days

[obsidian zinc]

have you guys played Portal games with less than 64P?

it's the same.

[earnest verge]

i only bought consoles for the campaigns tho, pc for mp, thats why i have 2 of each

[obsidian zinc]

something else is the root cause of the poor performance in 2042.

[rotund plume]

The fact that ITS NEW?

[gleaming dove]

I recently started playing again and I have enjoyed the game a lot. But I've only been enjoying the 64 player official modes

Specifically breakthrough

[obsidian zinc]

I assume it's something with how your game view is rendered on your screen.

[obsidian zinc]

BT on 128P wasn't tested enough. or not at all.

[astral quarry]

I've been trying to stay really positive about BF2042 and the future but these stats are shocking and worrying - BFV currently has 20k players, BF1 has 8k players, 2042 only 5k

[rotund plume]

That's the same thing people said about the beginning of BFV and it's turned out fine.

Just give it time

[sharp agate]

Due partly to community outrage and poor sales. I think we have the same conditions for 2042 lol

[earnest verge]

they reduced rendering distance for lots of things a while back so prob

[ionic adder]

That's because 128 is too chaotic and maps are too open for the infantry. Also, even the old DICE came to the conclusion that 128 player matches simply ain't that fun.

[earnest verge]

comparing bf5 with 2042 release is unfair, they are not the same

[rotund plume]

Oh really?

[earnest verge]

bf5 ppl cried about historic accuarcy, 2042 ppl cry about everything

[sharp agate]

Yes I remember this. They had the tech back then but testing showed that 64 players was the sweet spot

[obsidian zinc]

you mean that new LoD thing?

[gleaming dove]

They can make the maps smaller and add more buildings and things in between. That would help a lot

[earnest verge]

i think they reduced everything, thats why airplanes are spazzing out if u see them in to far in the distance

and player models doing michael jackson

[obsidian zinc]

maybe there are some "bugs" with the new system.

[earnest verge]

I know some people gonna b real mad now, but i found how they can truly save 2042 https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/sbjup3/my_disappointment_is_immeasurable_and_my_day_is/

[arctic grove]

Going more woke is always a good option

Never once has a company went woke and gone broke

[reef kestrel]

gone woke gone broke

[obsidian zinc]

still don't get what "woke" means...

[earnest verge]

it means to game all night, drink 8 pack or redbull and falling in love with anime catgirls

[arctic grove]

It means they bowed to all the nonsense you only ever see online but never in reality

[obsidian zinc]

x'DDD

[arctic grove]

I wanna play BF4 but can never get it to launch :/

[hard ravine]

I didnt choose n33t it chose me

[gaunt urchin]

skip toward the end… lol https://www.xbox.com/play/media/WUFK9DXZ

[reef kestrel]

having or marked by an active awareness of systemic injustices and prejudices, especially those related to civil and human rights.

^ He asked what the word mean.

[agile crescent]

BF 2042 ps5 : SHiFT-KsA

[still tangle]

No

[obsidian zinc]

ah, I see.

[reef kestrel]

You can check here for more detail info about woke word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#Woke_as_a_pejorative_term

[obsidian zinc]

that quote on Twitter seems familiar.

[reef kestrel]

which one?

[obsidian zinc]

Saga of Tanja the Evil?

on your Twitter. xD

[reef kestrel]

No matter how much we modernize, no matter how social norms affect us, humans are foolish creatures ?

[obsidian zinc]

yes.

[reef kestrel]

Yes it's from her.

I like her vision just my personal thing.

[obsidian zinc]

the guy who wrote that story must have played a lot of WW2 shooters and WoW. xD

[reef kestrel]

Not only ww2 but it's from a jp author he probably read many ww1 and ww2 then imperialism, dictatorship etc..

Tanya just want a chill life tho.

[obsidian zinc]

I have to continue watching it.

[reef kestrel]

the anime? Do it it's good and dont forget the movie

[obsidian zinc]

dropped it after season 2 I think.

[marble bear]

If they make the game free what does that mean for the people that bought the ultimate edition???

[silk jasper]

You'll totally get a refund. Lol

[marble bear]

I don’t want a refund I want weapons and vehicles that no one got if they make the game free

[dense terrace]

[scenic igloo]

To continue the Angel train. We'll all probably be kicked for spam but Angel must do it again!

[drowsy sapphire]

”Angel does it again”

[reef kestrel]

I don't want a refund but a compensation worth of 100 buck please.

[frosty mural]

they'll give you that in the form of a microtransactoin

[scenic igloo]

THAT WAS SOMETHING... RIGHT?

[frosty mural]

or BF coins that you can use in BFV lol

[drowsy sapphire]

—

[drowsy sapphire]

”YAHHG… ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN”

[reef kestrel]

[brittle oak]

when we gone get some dlc

[drowsy sapphire]

[silk jasper]

WELL WELL WELL THAT WAS FUN

[arctic grove]

Easy in easy out

[willow sky]

is anyone else experiencing crashes in-game? it might just be me 😔

[warped turret]

got it on series x alot more since update

[willow sky]

renewal is like the only map that's killing my experience right now sadly

[slate folio]

Any decent Nightpilots in ere

[arctic grove]

That map was removed temporarily because it caused issues for console players

[warped turret]

only on old gen

[slate folio]

Nightbird sry

[arctic grove]

I've experienced a few crashed since last update on ps5 on various maps

[glad river]

Are they going to cancel drone with C5? It is very annoying, although I use it to destroy vehicles in the past

[olive lake]

This game is so awful right now. The absolute disrespect in communication is baffling.

[warped turret]

think there more problems than that right now

[olive lake]

Obviously. I could list so many. Like the false advertising and promises.

[glad river]

No many people playing the game , just like battlefield 5

[warped turret]

tbh i see past the problems it does not stop me playing it, on it right now

[copper fulcrum]

I always see people saying "false advertising" but they never give any examples

[slender gale]

When next Battlefield? =D

[olive lake]

This progression cap is killing the game. Especially for the PvE side. While PvP can retreat to AoW, PvE have nothing. We have no campaigns, no official co-op modes (ones with full progression at least) zilch.

[glad river]

Some of the modes always unable to find a game

[slender gale]

I didnt play BF2042 since 1 month, this time has been the best time of my life

[fierce gull]

Yes

[glad river]

Nice

[naive quiver]

In Next 23 months

[fierce gull]

Idk why they didn't do it in this patch but most likely the patch in feb

[slender gale]

😦

[warped turret]

anyone know if you can kill with mackay grapple, i have already killed with medic s21

[olive lake]

I believe so. I've tried it.

[copper fulcrum]

You can

[warped turret]

cool thx guys

[olive lake]

If this cap isn't sorted by the time Season 1 rolls out, this game will surely be done for. That's if its even alive then.

[woven pike]

I know that no one is talking about this rn but I love 128 players in battlefield. It is super chaotic, but I find that’s what makes it fun, although, the maps are still too big for 128 players.

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, most people just play PVP and don't have a problem with the progression cap

[reef kestrel]

Listen to me boi.

Dice didnt fail as a team.

[warped turret]

tbh its the squads thats killing me zero chat feels like playing the game by yourself bf never been like that

[copper fulcrum]

Meanwhile, here I am, with more than half of the specialists in Tier 1, just got Irish to that just now

[glossy storm]

Season 1 will be good if you lower your standards.

[reef kestrel]

The game is fine with 40k players

[obsidian zinc]

what would be good maps for a Hot Wire type of mode?

[olive lake]

At this point I have none from how awful the decisions have been

[copper fulcrum]

Probably Orbital and Hourglass

Kaleidoscope definitely

[warped turret]

i only have medic on tier 1, thats only i use, just started messing around no guns on tier1

[olive lake]

PvE has been completely alienated and there's just no respect for that part of the playerbase at all

[silk shell]

what even is hotwire? wasnt that a hardline mode?

[glad river]

They should let AI join the game even there is only 1 real player,127 AI😈 I mean pvp mode

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, you kill bots in either Conquest, Breakthrough or you can play through some of the PVE servers in Portal which can have Conquest, Rush, etc.

[obsidian zinc]

yes. just look it up on YT.

[copper fulcrum]

I see plenty of players vs bot servers on Rush

[silk shell]

wait wasnt that the one where you had to drive the cars to get tickets or something

[olive lake]

If they could just fucking fix AOW Solo/Co-op again to have progression I'd have zero issues with the game.

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, you can get like almost everything except for the Tier 1 skins through Solo/Co-Op

The only things you really can't get are the titles and Tier 1 outfits and that's fucking it

[olive lake]

And no. Weapon attachments aren't the only full progression. I'm speaking ribbons, playercards, mastery, weeklies. Everything as it was promised. If XP is such an issue, cap the maximum XP earned in a single match. Simple

[obsidian zinc]

the vehicles were the objectives, yes.

[silk shell]

yeah wasnt a fan of that

[glad river]

Some thing in this game if you want to make it to T1 is so difficult, even in AI mode

[copper fulcrum]

All ribbons do is give you XP. You can do Mastery challenges but only up to a certain point.

[obsidian zinc]

you had to drive them to get points.

[naive quiver]

Don't you find it boring to play with the AI?

[copper fulcrum]

Some of the PVE servers are a bit fun, some people have it like Insurgency Sandstorm and it's alright.

[olive lake]

Yeah precisely. It takes precisely the same amount as time. The fact people think T1 means you're 'good' at the game is stupidly hilarious. T1 just means you've put time into the game.

[warped turret]

depends if you like sitting around waiting for a server never to fill up i guess

[fierce gull]

T1 dozer means you absolute god

Same goes for T1 Sundance

[copper fulcrum]

tmw you get messages for wearing Sundance's Tier 1 helmet

[warped turret]

no i am crap at getting kills but great medic, its all about team work for me

[olive lake]

This whole egotistical culture about having things and gating content needs to die. Everyone should be allowed to earn stuff because at the end of the day, all it really shows is the time put into the game.

[copper fulcrum]

It would be way too easy to get Tier 1 if you can get it through PVE

[fierce gull]

Ye no worth

[copper fulcrum]

You would probably be able to get Mackay to Tier 1 in two matches if that were the case

[olive lake]

Everyone bought the game at the same price with the promise of getting everything like everybody else, I say let them

This game isn't remotely an e-sports or a competitive themed game.

[naive quiver]

T1 just means You have no excuse to say this game is broken

[fierce gull]

No hablo Ingles

[sullen heath]

are we still banging on about not getting rewards for killing mindless bots?

[glad river]

Vehicles T1 I think is the most difficult one

[reef kestrel]

Guys I need some soup.

Please make one for me a hot soup im hungy

[warped turret]

but its not really broken is it, broken = not working in my eyes, its not perfect, tbh how did they make any kind of triple a title working from home ? not easy to talk to you friend who is not next to you

[arctic grove]

I bet that every battlefield player would go for tier 1 mackay and tier 1 angel

[warped turret]

no medic everytime for me sorry

[naive quiver]

If you have that many times

[fierce gull]

Battlefield 2042 was made by me at home while eating mango juice

[sullen heath]

id say mckay and paik are the easiest to do atm

[tired pelican]

Why is dice terrified of people getting xp

[grizzled whale]

im at mackay mastery 120ish

[reef kestrel]

Battlefield is fine because I made the game.

You guys are just toxic.

[warped turret]

@fierce gull did you really make it ?

[woven pike]

exactly what i’ve been thinking. Not every developer has the proper tech to develop a game from home, and if there is an issue they need help with they need to screen share with their coworkers, which can get very problematic in itself.

[fierce gull]

Cuz they don't want people to reach T1 easily and be level S99999999 in one day

[grizzled whale]

i think the NTW needs a buff, it should be a 1 shot against infantry at any range, and the small magazines, super slow fire/reload speed make up for that

[sullen heath]

leaving an already boring progression experience with absolutely nothing to do

[naive quiver]

Haha until 2042 in real life

[copper fulcrum]

What's the point of having a progression system if everyone is going to cheese it and make it meaningless?

[arctic grove]

I am so close to unlocking tier 1 falck pretty sure this is a not supriseing knowing Falck mastery challenge is easy to do

[glad river]

EA: we want people playing this game for years until the next battlefield come
Me : I hope there is still someone playing this game after few months😐, at least wait until I get my first T1 vehicle

[copper fulcrum]

It shows that you'll actually do your fucking job as a medic

[pliant knot]

yo i hate the invinsible glitch

[sullen heath]

what i dont understand is why the bot farmers actually care about t1 badges? wtf do you get from it from killing bots? absolutely no satisfaction at all i seriously think they should count there blessings they even allow you to unlock everything against bots its ridiculous imo

[woven pike]

I just unlocked tier 1 angel yesterday morning.

[arctic grove]

Yeah I do my job as a medic

[warped turret]

can not game and read chat here lol

[grizzled whale]

they feel like pro's when they can flex with the T1 badges

[arctic grove]

angel does it again

[sullen heath]

leaving the pros with absolutely nothing to flex at all because no one will look at a badge and believe its earned legit

[olive lake]

Would tell ya if I knew. But one thing is certain. PvE players are getting scammed, disrespected and fucked over right now.

[warped turret]

i would hate to see my kd but i have worn out my s21

[pliant knot]

i think it has a lot to do with the little content there is and that you gotta unlock it by leveling up, for example only 2 shotguns and the automatic one unlocks at level 50 or something

[grizzled whale]

i feel that, i got 8 T1 badges now and it feels like everyone has atleast 3 now

[pliant knot]

the bolte unlocks at level 50 and its one of the best vehicles in the game so yea people would definetely farm xp just to get it

[copper fulcrum]

ayo guys, check out all my tier 1 badges I got at level 30! yoooo

[sullen heath]

man i cannot even fathom how someone can come to this game and complain about the pve side that should never be in place anyway fml its a PVP game

[grizzled whale]

Tfw you grind to lvl 60 so you can use the NTW and they nerf it 1 day before you hit 60

[sullen heath]

yeah i think im about the same as you im very close to t1 sws which im quite proud of and i will flex that when i get it

[copper fulcrum]

PvE can be fun, but you shouldn't exactly flex what you got playing PvE shit

[warped turret]

tbh i be happy with chat than any badges on tier 1

[grizzled whale]

Bro im most proud of my GTV T1 i managed to get in 2 days

[copper fulcrum]

It's like flexing that you beat Doom 2 MAP01 on "I'm Too Young to Die" 150 times

[olive lake]

Imagine assuming people wanna flex T1s earned from PVE. Those people are farmers. You'd never even see PvE players in PvP unless they were dragged along

[sullen heath]

its sad that im actually sitting here even talking about badges i literally would not care less for such a thing normally but there is nothing else to do so here i am 😦

[warped turret]

well could join me on 2042

[sullen heath]

no but you would get a shit load of pvp players farming there badges in pve then coming to pvp and ruining it for the legit players

[olive lake]

Again, us PVE players just want what we were promised from day one. The ability to get everything through AOW Solo/Co-op. This heavy focus on portal is especially frustrating

[arctic grove]

Also who would use shotguns in battlefield 2042

[sullen heath]

you can get everything though? every gun every attachment just no bragging rights for badges why do you care you can do each weapon in like 5 games max wtf is even the point it really does boggle my mind

[copper fulcrum]

You literally get EVERYTHING except for badges and Tier 1 outfits

[hard plume]

Probably be great for manifest.

[sullen heath]

yep which is stupid you should be forced to earn attachments online pvp

[olive lake]

Correction: Playercards, ribbons, full mastery, weeklies. If you're gonna gatekeep, do your research

[sullen heath]

so now we are left with even less stuff to do yet again and they wonder why theres no content its so dumb

[sullen heath]

which make absolutely no difference to your in game experience vs bots that you have every gun and attachment for?

[glad river]

Today I arrive S001, and I feel I don’t have any purpose while playing the game

[sullen heath]

that is exactly what happened to me that was the only thing left to do and now i have it i barely play and when i do play its like a game and im pissed off with it straight away and turn it off again

[glad river]

Only for the vehicles T1 trophy

[warped turret]

time to shine on another set up

[glad river]

People just simply killing each other

[civic reef]

This game is horribale

What game is better to play. Hell let loose has a slow gameplay

I think its best to go to cod it seems? Warzone or something?

[sullen heath]

unsure mate im searching for something myself

[olive lake]

The world war series has some decent infantry gameplay. Verdun and Tannenberg are nice

[civic reef]

Pff man sad to say it seems like everything is better then this game..

[sullen heath]

yeah world war is supposed to be good but its much slower paced and more realistic TTK

[warped turret]

well for sure i am not going to cod

[sullen heath]

yeah the have really gone a fucked it this time i cant see it coming back from it either tbh

[olive lake]

Any game with a team thats listening to feedback is better. Literally a VR BR called Population One is respecting PVE players better by letting them recently do events in the bot mode

[civic reef]

I prefered battlefield over cod everytime but brother now it just seems a bad cod game this battlefield game

[sullen heath]

your not alone

[glad river]

Offline game is so much fun, I don’t know why they don’t have story mode for this game, maybe just for money fast

[olive lake]

Even CoD Cold War as much as it sucked somewhat listened to feedback like letting zombies players unlock weapons on Season 3.

[civic reef]

Things dont add up bro, while some of their devolopers left afther a weak or so. They still are radio silent aswell. Its just we talk to each other and have the best ideas

But isnt it weird they spend 3 years on this and then we hope they makethings better in a few weeks??

[warped turret]

i started on bf but have played alot of cods has well, but my heart is with bf

[sullen heath]

honestly... i wouldnt have cared for a story mode if they had delivered a good game but to bring us this shit and then not have even spent any time or money on making a campaign it just makes it so much worse for them theres really no excuse for it

[olive lake]

They really don't have to do much to get me playing their game again. Just uncap everything on AOW Solo/Co-op and I'd be back playing with zero issues

[glad river]

I though they only take 1 year to make this game

[grizzled whale]

lol no

[civic reef]

Bro get in the game and play for 1 minit, in that minit you will see so many bugs and glitches its not normal

[grizzled whale]

thats bullshit, extreme exaggeration

[olive lake]

I don't disagree but the progression cap literally destroys all reason to even bother playing.

[warped turret]

for me should have made an update bf4 new maps, and just keep adding map packs. i be happy to buy map packs

[olive lake]

Even during day one when the game was uncapped, I didn't see that many bugs or glitches that ruined the game for me

[civic reef]

Sorry brother its true hop on and try and if not 1 minit play for 2 minits and you will see

[sullen heath]

theres a lot of bugs but its not as severe as you put it and i have many hours in this game

[arctic grove]

Mind giving some examples of what you are experiencing and what platform you’re playing on ?

[grizzled whale]

1. i play for atleast 6 hours a day, and what you claim is just dumb
2. its minute

[sullen heath]

😄

[civic reef]

The 1st 3 kills in game is mostly duo vehicles? Isnt this true?

[crude trellis]

Lack of cover and plenty to walk.

[warped turret]

omg game just stop in a kill in the end i died thats a first lol

[glad river]

I do remember I go underground twice

[sullen heath]

on some maps on BT you can be getting hit by choppers before you even spawn in at the start

[arctic grove]

You consider this a bug/glitch ?

[civic reef]

6 hours?? I just dont believe that and if you do thatreally we will never agree so enjoy your game

[crude trellis]

Bang on. 'Grand Bazaar ' my fave map.

[sullen heath]

being shot through a wall because your leg is sticking out the other side is no fun i must admit lol

[mint gyro]

You guys got some bad taste in maps

[arctic grove]

A lot of the start of the round stuff will be fixed eventually

[gleaming dove]

Is that the one at the docks? I love that map

[civic reef]

Im playing on ps5, and afther i got blasted in the air by a tank or heli my team wont res me because im stuck in top of a building or something else!

[arctic grove]

Very true, but clipping is not only an issue in BF, most games have this problem

[sullen heath]

yeah thats a fair comment

[arctic grove]

I find very challenging to unlock sniper rifle weapon attachments in public matches

[civic reef]

Most games dont have the other problems this game has

[grizzled whale]

usually its just the playermodel clipping, not the hitbox

[sullen heath]

sniping in BF is just different... If your not very good at sniping in other games then i just wouldnt bother personally lol

[arctic grove]

None of these things you listed are bugs/glitches

[civic reef]

Some equipments on weapons have the same things!??

[grizzled whale]

just play against bots for a bit, you get a feel for the snipers and you get some attachments

[sullen heath]

does anyone know if reloading the spawn beacon is actually meant to be a thing? 😄

[civic reef]

How is it that im stuck at a wall and my team cant res me a bug?

[grizzled whale]

so far you named one bug

[arctic grove]

I am good at sniping and yeah I can tell that sniping is different in battlefield then like sniping in call of duty

[glad river]

It is 2022, and there is still some bug they haven’t fix in battlefield 5. , so I think they won’t fix all the bug in battlefield 2042

[mint gyro]

Skipper last time I took your advice on how to get my aim better and now I have potato aim

[arctic grove]

The ads speed in cod snipping looks very slow

[grizzled whale]

did i ever give you advice?

[mint gyro]

You did

[grizzled whale]

really? what did i tell you?

[sullen heath]

if your decent on other games then just keep at it mate eventually it will just click and you will be sniping tards out of boltes with a huge smile on your face believe me on that one 🙂

[civic reef]

Yeah right guys im not gonna argue with you as you guys are the 1 of the 3000 playing. I just think i am the 1 out of 97000 who dont like the game it seems

[mint gyro]

You said put a sniper scope on my shotgun and then my aim would be like aimbot

[warped turret]

i dis like talking in discord on what bugs i find ever since i start has a closed beta tester so you not find me saying anything on that matter

[crude trellis]

Unfortunately not... GB was on BF3. Not included in 2042.

[grizzled whale]

when did i say that lol

[sullen heath]

pahahahahaha]

[fiery shoal]

popular opinion is hardly a measurement of anything, its not like cardi b and billie eilish are two of the greatest artists ever

[arctic grove]

If you don’t like the game that’s fine but there is no need to make excuses about tons of “bugs/glitches” when you only named one

[mint gyro]

Na I'm messing with you skipper I know you wouldn't do that

[remote kiln]

we don't like 2042
game is just under battlefield 3 in sales
EA:
oh no, anyways

[grizzled whale]

i was so confused

i thought you meant the GVT, since its basically in the shotgun section, and ive been destroying with that

[civic reef]

I cant believe there are people liking this game wauw

[crude trellis]

Parky syndrome on prone while next to walls. Grating.

[civic reef]

Have some self dignity man, they stole your money

[grizzled whale]

git gud

[mint gyro]

I don't even know what a gvt is I just use knives

[arctic grove]

Guys. Relax. Is it year 2042 yet? It's another twenty years right? Game was released 20 years early. Lots of time to make it to release day compelling state.. 🤣

[arctic grove]

I'm 1 out of 4.26 million who got trial 😄

[eternal crane]

Honestly they changed something because I got on yesterday and the only “bug” I got was the spawn in menu failing to load on a portal match. And it only happened once

[grizzled whale]

They didnt steal anything, i got nearly 200 hours in this game, i paid 100, id say ive gotten my moneys worth 100%

[arctic grove]

@fiery shoalbrah, the song WAP by cardi is a banger

[remote kiln]

[arctic grove]

Tie me up like I'm surprised
Let's role-play, I wear a disguise
I want you to park that big Mack truck right in this little garage

[warped turret]

what i can not understand is why people hate it but still play it, if you hate go play something else, i dis like things but love it and i plan to kill the game with many months to come

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-lol-risitas-laughing-spanish-gif-12046727

[mint gyro]

Battlefield 2042 = best battlefield that came out

[arctic grove]

the best lyricist of our time

[grizzled whale]

my personal experience is exactly this

[glad river]

The game is so expensive when I pre order the most expensive version,I feel like I am a idiot, I just want half refund if they decided to make this game free to play

[plucky plaza]

If they make this whole game free to play theyre only killing themselves and the franchise

[arctic grove]

They're not gonna make it f2p

[fiery shoal]

its a decent game, not a good bf game though, but dont have to put down people who enjoy it though

[arctic grove]

Lol who knows if 4.26 million legit brought the game since there's trial version

[grizzled whale]

i wonder how the console playerbase is

[eternal crane]

Also do you guys know how to fix that every time I join an asymmetrical or tdm portal match the spawn in menu just doesn’t appear and I can’t even leave the lobby. I have to use task manager to close the game and then restart

[warped turret]

well i also paid for the biggy i do not want any money back but would love to get the link for my music and art which i never did

[remote kiln]

considering at its peak it had 100k players on steam alone, you can't do that without selling millions of copies lol

[fiery shoal]

logic doesnt work with him

[remote kiln]

[iron blade]

And who knows how many refunded

[arctic grove]

Could be copies or trial 🤔

[gleaming dove]

Ohhhh I remember it. My favorite map was kharg Island. It had a mix of open terrain and buildings later on

[remote kiln]

if this is the ultimate edition it's included on the login page

[fiery shoal]

you mean trials that wouldnt launch through steam?

[arctic grove]

For legit numbers wait till EA release for public use

Hopefully you at least got the digital soundtrack

[warped turret]

no

[arctic grove]

Sometime nice to play in the car

[glossy storm]

Opinions exist. I too don't like this game for the most part, but don't disrespect people who do enjoy it...

[arctic grove]

No trials if you have EA play

How do you think you get free trial 😄

[warped turret]

never got a email asked support but no joy

[remote kiln]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/media/ultimate-edition-benefits you'll find them here

it's been there since the game came out, you probably missed it

[arctic grove]

Right there the soundtrack alone is worth the price

[warped turret]

cool thx "You have access to the exclusive Ultimate Edition digital content below:"

[remote kiln]

np

[iron blade]

Imo no, bf1 and bfv soundtracks sound better than this Alan Walker bass boosted FNF song nonsense

[crude trellis]

Those are the best map types. They seem to have resurrected the worst ones favoring open play. Hardly any CQC...

[arctic grove]

If you are a Spotify subscriber you”d get the soundtrack without paying for ultimate lol

@iron blade fine what about the art book than

[remote kiln]

the Spotify version isn't that great compared to these versions

[iron blade]

I think the concept art is cool, proceeds to screenshot the pages like a chad

[remote kiln]

raw files have much more depth to them

[arctic grove]

There are different versions ?

[warped turret]

ok wow 57 pages nice

[remote kiln]

the Spotify version is compressed in its audio quality because it's being streamed

[iron blade]

Scan them on a printer and fax them to me /s

[arctic grove]

Oh gotcha gotcha I see what you’re saying

[remote kiln]

these are the unripped aka raw versions of the audio, it has much more detail to it

[warped turret]

nope pay for it like we all did

[gleaming dove]

Yeah I think the same. I think they tried it with the desert map in 2042, tried to copy what they did with Africa harbor in bad company 2 but the map is way to open. I remember the insane chaos with just 32 people and it worked so well

[warped turret]

only got screen shot tool sorry

[remote kiln]

also why the audio is 230MB in size

[plucky plaza]

I just hope that Exposure is a decent map, if not then i would be disappointed

[arctic grove]

Hour glass wasn't thought out to well

[iron blade]

No i dont think ill pay 120 bucks for smth that may go f2p later on

[warped turret]

but i would not do that anyway

[arctic grove]

Tbh I had no idea how to even claim the art book/soundtrack good looking out @remote kiln

[remote kiln]

np I know a lot of people missed it

[plucky plaza]

I doubt that the whole game will be f2p, maybe portal though

[glossy storm]

According to Tom, Portal will get the F2P treatment.

[warped turret]

i love dice to much remember when i joined QA Testing on bf heroes and did 8months testing it was a blast to see and game go from wire frame maps to final

[iron blade]

My friend had a similar issue, bought bf1 revolution edition digitally, but didnt get the additional content like DLCs etc

.

[arctic grove]

Could be free to play with EA play 🤔

[elder patrol]

Ooh today should be good

[remote kiln]

I've got the audio on my pc it sounds great with stereo surround sound

[arctic grove]

Portal won't make much of a difference anyway 😏

[remote kiln]

DICE put a lot of effort into it it's clear

[iron blade]

If portal is going free to play, then they better add more content, because if they remove the 2042 aspect, then its pretty barebones

[remote kiln]

it was always the plan for more content to be added to portal, regardless if it's free or not

[glossy storm]

For the ridiculous time they had which EA set, yes.

[iron blade]

Yeah but if we arent getting more content until march

[arctic grove]

If Battlefield 2042 goes free to play best bet it be under EA play for 4.99

[iron blade]

And dice has been radio silent lately

[remote kiln]

DICE were clear that portal was taking a wait and see approach intentionally so that they can add content that the community actually wants, they were explicit about this even before the game came out

[arctic grove]

What do you mean? They just released a mini roadmap up to March lol

[remote kiln]

it was never going to have a dlc like system akin to the main game

for those of you who took part in the CTR of BF4, it's the same approach with portal

[warped turret]

bf2042 will not go free ever but apart of portal will, i am thinking mini game modes of bf 2042 bit like a teaser

[arctic grove]

Who knows how "free to play" will turn out

[iron blade]

I can envision it now...

Dear No-Pats,

We have decided to shut down support for 2042, and go back to supporting BF1 and BFV, which will be getting next gen upgrades and 10+ DLCs for each game.

We will also be developing a vietnam BF game. Any ppl who bought 2042 will be instantly be given 20,000 dollars as a repayment for the emotional damage we put you all under

Cheers,
Dice

[gusty jasper]

[remote kiln]

portal really never made sense to be behind a paywall anyways, the majority of it was old content

[gusty jasper]

What a proud day to be a no pat

[serene raven]

i wish

[remote kiln]

sooner it's free the better

[serene raven]

today i just sent my 2nd refund request

[gusty jasper]

Lot of backlash incoming for f2p

[serene raven]

plx steam i want my 80 back... ill go buy ready or not.

[iron blade]

When did they do that

[safe plume]

Anyone looking for a new (not brilliant but not totally useless) team mate? had 2042 since release but all my friends only play cod so im a but of a loner on it haha

[warped turret]

i am sure that what will happen bet u my series x

[iron blade]

I cant refund god damn u dice

[gusty jasper]

Okay is it just me or does this community have a weird influx of milsim players all of a sudden

[serene raven]

yesn't.

[proper latch]

Daily reminder to boycott 2069 and all EA products

[remote kiln]

https://twitter.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1483741031573172236?t=WFuQfBlvxX1p75uC135_CA&s=19

Battlefield Direct Communication (@BattlefieldComm)

Scoreboard Refresh

In Update 3.3 we will refresh our existing Scoreboard UI with a new panel that showcases how players are stacking up across the server

Here’s your first look at our Work in Progress 👀

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Twitter · Jan 19, 2022, 10:00 AM

[marble cradle]

The game it is dead .

[arctic grove]

On their twitter, I believe it’s in #direct-communication too they’ve outlined the next few weeks leading up to S1

[remote kiln]

thread with all the details

[safe plume]

???

[iron blade]

Oh yeah that thing, with the weird ass scoreboard

[gusty jasper]

This is horrid, please delete

[remote kiln]

it's literally not even finished yet

do you not see the massive text labelled work in progress

[arctic grove]

people dont

[warped turret]

? when did 1 aa rocket start taking a condor down with 1

[gusty jasper]

Deco, a work in progress for a fucking scoreboard for a triple A company is not saying much

[arctic grove]

at this point I think most are unhappy no matter what they add or do to the game

[marble cradle]

The Beta was in progress too and look how rubbish the game is.

[remote kiln]

ok? I don't see how that's pertinent lol

bringing up arbitrary things for no reason

[proper latch]

Shit tier baiting bro

[warped turret]

i would have been happy if the game was held back another 6 months before release

[remote kiln]

very

[sturdy patrol]

i would have been happy if i got my refund

[plucky plaza]

I think a lot of people just want new content which is fair, since the game is lacking content right now. The fact that we might have to wait until march for new content is embarrassing imo, but game deving takes time. I hope that DICE surprises us with the season 1 update

[iron blade]

Because if it took them 3+ months to plan a scoreboard, design a scoreboard, and give us a sneakpeak of one where it doesnt even show DEATHS, then u know smth is fishy

[proper latch]

Every individual with at least half a functional brain agrees that the proposed scoreboard is a literal joke

[grizzled whale]

dice would have been too

[warped turret]

not worried about a refund tbh played more games than this to be worried

[gusty jasper]

How is bringing up that we don't have a scoreboard and get snippets of it, for a multi million dollar company not in any way concerning Unless I'm being baited

[iron blade]

When they have had scoreboards on release for the last 20 or so years

[proper latch]

They’re not even including death count hahaha utter fools

[warped turret]

remember the start of cyberpunk ?

[proper latch]

No they have to be progressive!

[sturdy patrol]

i bought gold edition, biggest mistake of my life lol

[remote kiln]

because you're bringing up EA as some sort of reason to delete a WIP scoreboard lmao

[proper latch]

The time for change is now. We must cater to bot casuals

[plucky plaza]

Is it confirmed that there wont be deaths on the scoreboard? I might be living under a rock because I havent seen news related to that

[remote kiln]

why does everyone always bring up EA when discussing things like god stay on topic

[warped turret]

i got the ultimate

[proper latch]

Why do you fail at baiting ?

[remote kiln]

it's not just him, it happens all the time

[plucky plaza]

What region? The game should be very much alive with crossplay

[remote kiln]

2042 is bad because something something EA this that

[gusty jasper]

am I being played?

[warped turret]

@modern abyss i am playing conquest

[iron blade]

...because EA is the publisher of 2042...and is like the main approver of shit?...

[proper latch]

The game is objective horseshit just uninstall and refund. This is just a giant fraudulent scam

[glossy storm]

I mean, EA is to be blamed primarily for 2042.

[warped turret]

and no Ai

[remote kiln]

no they aren't lol EA literally don't give a shit about how 2042 is designed, DICE make the game, not EA

I don't know if any of you actually read DICE interviews they are very explicit about it

[glossy storm]

Are you seriously gonna ignore the fact that they were the ones who forced DICE to chase trends and initially make a BR game?

[plucky plaza]

I wish that they considered delaying this game, I think if this game was launched in March it would be in a much better state

[remote kiln]

you mean the ones where the lead community manager for DICE literally said he proposed the entire idea of specialists? that one?

[fiery shoal]

absolutely none of that is confirmed...

[iron blade]

Cmon man u know for a damned fact that ea dips their toes in the development to push for micro transactions. Did u hear from tom when an ea head said that they liked what CoD was doing with their micro transactions and wanted BF to do that?

[remote kiln]

people really not thinking straight nowadays need a new brain

[plucky plaza]

[proper latch]

EA definitely had influenced the direction of the game. Yes DICE makes the final decisions in design but they are nevertheless guided by the suits

BROOOOTAL

[warped turret]

i keep missing bf friday night i must get back into that

[glossy storm]

Uh, Tom Henderson did.

[remote kiln]

except they didn't, infact they said it was for FIFA, which EA develop, I am so sick of people trying to write off bad decisions as some boogeyman as EA, if you're going to criticise something criticise the people who made the damn decisions

[kind cove]

i had fun playing some rush over the weekend 😄

glad i got it for $10 though lol!

[grizzled whale]

Also the fact that they had to cut a lot of stuff from the game because they wanted another year of development time but EA didnt give it to them

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[fiery shoal]

does that mean you assume tom is 100% right? ok...

[remote kiln]

DICE have made literally countless errors this isn't new but people like to give them a free pass because something something EA

[proper latch]

Damn we got Paradox here threatening violence and yet I’m the one who gets muted for some dumb shit lmao

[tawdry bobcat]

If you're talking about 2042 then yes

[proper latch]

Keep up good work mods

[plucky plaza]

You should learn towards official confirmations

[iron blade]

Ok so u want us to shit on dice for every problem. Because they are the ones that make all the decisions?

[robust ember]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[remote kiln]

yeah, because they literally made the damn game lol

[iron blade]

Ok i will gladly do that

[kind cove]

depends who you talk too....its not perfect so jump into the free 10hours on EA play and see what you think

[remote kiln]

they fucked up battlefield 4, 1, 5, and now 2042, this isn't new

[proper latch]

Nah I agree with your statement just find it funny how you didn’t get muted just now and when I talk shit about mods or DICE I get muted

[grizzled whale]

dice made plenty of mistakes when developing the game, but im 100% convinced the game wouldnt be anywhere nearly as poorly rated if they got the extra year of development time they wanted

[empty bloom]

how did they fuck up battlefield 1 idubbz

[iron blade]

They didn’t fuck up bf1, that release was buttery smooth thanks to cte

[plucky plaza]

To be fair, BF1 launch was rather stable compared to other titles lol

[tawdry bobcat]

if they cared about their Community they would go on strike if they didn't like management.

[fiery shoal]

report them 🤷

[obsidian zinc]

what was wrong with BF1?

[remote kiln]

I'm not talking about just it's release

[proper latch]

I ain’t a little snowflake

[remote kiln]

it's mid way stability was a total mess because of the changes DICE did mid way through to the game

[safe plume]

and yet you keep buying the game.... says more about you than anything else if thats your opinion lol

[remote kiln]

literally this is a repeat symptom and DICE have done it with nearly every game in the franchise

[fiery shoal]

what would you call someone that cries about someone else not getting in trouble then?

[plucky plaza]

Ok, I just presumed you were talking about the release, my apologies

[iron blade]

Huh? I mean it had balance problems thats for sure, but it felt fine to me

[proper latch]

No I’m merely pointing out the pick and choose moderation going on here

[remote kiln]

TTK changes

[iron blade]

Ohhhhhhhhh ur talking about entire lifecycle not release, i am mentally deranged sorry

[proper latch]

Ain’t crying about anything this discord is a big fat joke run by clowns anyway

[fiery shoal]

or you know, mods arent watching 24/7 and dont catch everything..

[tawdry bobcat]

This☝️

[kind cove]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-twerk-gif-15293291

[remote kiln]

yeah because I like the franchise lol doesn't mean I don't give DICE criticism

I can like the franchise and criticise DICE's decisions they aren't mutually exclusive

[tawdry bobcat]

Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?

[proper latch]

Deco what’s your opinion on 2042?

[glacial lantern]

I need a dose of copium for this chat.

[plucky plaza]

You can enjoy a game whilst also criticizing it, constructive criticism is crucial for development

[safe plume]

if a restaurant kept fucking up your food you'd stop going. not keeep going just becauase you like burgers...

[proper latch]

Like do you genuinely enjoy what this game has to offer @remote kiln

[tawdry bobcat]

Insanity is doing the exact... same fucking thing... over and over again expecting... shit to change...

[grizzled whale]

why tf are all yall in here when you are criticising people for buying the game?

[remote kiln]

ehh aside from the dumbass decisions that for reasons I will never understand in regards to them cutting out voIP what not I tepidly agree with the design direction, not generally with specialists themselves, but the concept in intention I'm on board with

[glossy storm]

Didn't he interview past and current DICE developers?

[remote kiln]

in regards to the game itself I don't consider it finished yet so I'll hold off on judging for now

[iron blade]

That’s pretty much what BF games are. Thinking that the next game will be fixed and dice will learn from their mistakes, yet they dont

[eternal crane]

The game has its issues but it’s still fun to shoot shit in and leave

[remote kiln]

I'll say it's fun, but it's nowhere near finished

[glacial lantern]

It released. Lol

[fiery shoal]

its like people cant lie or something...

[eternal crane]

It’s not like it’s a competitive fps and even if it was I would play it casually

[remote kiln]

yeah and so did battlefield 4, and I didn't judge that game for the same reason

[tawdry bobcat]

do you think EA is above something like that?

[iron blade]

Imo the atmosphere and feeling of this game is absolutely atrocious

[plucky plaza]

Ill cut some slack and just give them time to fix it, but I just wished that they considered postponing the launch of the game. Fair enough the November launch was mostly due to competitive marketing, and the launch sales were good, but the game rn is lackluster imo

[fiery shoal]

absolutely not, but i dont think it makes any sense considering fs failed, and ea already has apex

[glossy storm]

If they are gonna be cited as anonymous, why would they lie?

[obsidian zinc]

what do you think are the reasons for the poor performance?

[grizzled whale]

Dice wanted another year

[remote kiln]

main reason is DICE pushing for 128 players, biggest reason why

[plucky plaza]

A year would be the right call imo, or perhaps several months at least

[remote kiln]

were reports that came out early on they were already struggling with stability with 128, they should have just done 100, 128 was more for marketing than anything

[tawdry bobcat]

the game worked fine with 64 players it didn't need to upgrade

[fiery shoal]

or tom could be lying...

[eternal crane]

128 players is really sick though

[remote kiln]

100 was tested and worked fine as I said earlier DICE made a lot of seemingly myopic decisions

[plucky plaza]

128 just toasts your CPU lol

[tawdry bobcat]

Tom doesn't strike me as a disingenuous person

[obsidian zinc]

hm... then why do I get the same fps when playing 8v8 in Portal? I don't get it. 🤔

[remote kiln]

same reason as 128, the optimisation is built around 128 players, rather than 8v8

aka higher playercount = harder it is for more performance across the board regardless of playercount

[arctic grove]

swashbuckling

[iron blade]

Like skip to 1:10 of this vid, which start of rounds looks and feels better, bf2042 or bf1? https://youtu.be/CL_EYY4JuTw

[turbid halo]

I have a question, how do you turn in a jet with the wheels down? I keep see this done and I'm not really sure how it's done

[dapper river]

Use rudder

[remote kiln]

I generally believe 128 was chosen because 50v50 would have felt off for people, but they should have kept with it anyways it was a massive mistake to try pushing for just 14 more players on either team

5 10 man squads would have worked fine

[glossy storm]

Someone said that 2042 carries Denuvo as well. Can someone confirm that?

[slim quiver]

5 10 man squads is too much like milsim stuff

[tawdry bobcat]

the game is Just genuinely bad from a design standpoint even without the bugs

[arctic grove]

5 man squads? unheard of

[slim quiver]

last thing i need is a squad leader getting a big head

[remote kiln]

it's not ideal, that's for sure, but it's much better than what we got instead

[slim quiver]

just do 10 5 man squads

[arctic grove]

I miss 5 man squads

[warped turret]

if you could fix just 1 thing what would it be ?

[arctic grove]

at least we could have our extra friend play we keep ditching because he cant join the match

[obsidian zinc]

@remote kiln can you recommend some material on this topic to understand it a little better?

[wide shore]

4 man squads, 5 man squads. Feels the same to me

[arctic grove]

when they switched to 4 it felt weird :/

[slim quiver]

5 man squads were also a thing when there was more classes

[turbid halo]

But what button is rudder?

[slim quiver]

funny enough bf1942 had 5 classes

[dapper river]

I miss just having a squad menu where you can form and lock your own squad, makes getting groups of over 4 in the same server far easier, and if we're a 3-man or less we can just lock off the squad if we don't want stupid randoms spawning on us and doing some dumbass shit

[arctic grove]

Or to really mix it up do 8, 8 person squads

[warped turret]

left and right

[slim quiver]

scout, assault, medic, engineer, anti-tank

[obsidian sigil]

From which point did they switch from 5 to 4 people in a squad? I think i joined too late to the BF franchise lol

[arctic grove]

when did they do away with anti-tank

[warped turret]

you could remap the controls

[iron blade]

Do what HLL does and have like 8 classes or whatever

[remote kiln]

that's a long complicated topic involving processor executions that would take me an hour to discuss, if you're interested about it essentially the more players there are in an immediate vicinity the more exponential power is required on a execution side to execute seamlessly (log(n) execution), to the server, and vice versa

[slim quiver]

vietnam had 4 classes

[arctic grove]

bf1

[slim quiver]

assault, heavy assault(anti tank), scout and engineer

[tawdry bobcat]

that's genuinely a hard question to answer because there's so many things wrong with the game that need to be fixed

[arctic grove]

oh it's a thing they switched back and forth?

[iron blade]

No it was bfv, bf1 had 5 man squads

[obsidian sigil]

BF1 had 5 people? J joined from BF1 to the franchise

[dapper river]

BF3 to BF4 went from 4 man squads to 5, it stayed in BF1, and then it was back to 4 in BFV

[arctic grove]

did it really? I think I am tripping

[slim quiver]

kinda yeah, like classes also had different names a few times

[remote kiln]

truth be told I was half expecting 2042 to be more of a disaster at launch than bf4 just by 128 players being used alone, so credit for DICE to get it half stable

[slim quiver]

roles were basically merged

[wide shore]

It was 4 from BC, BC2, 1943 & BF3. BF4 added 5 man squads, as well as BF1 and Hardline. Went back to 4 in BFV and 2042.

[remote kiln]

still not ideal at all, but meh

[glossy storm]

Third-person melees. Absolutely nothing about that is appealing. In fact, almost every time the camera switches to third person.

[arctic grove]

might be bed time for me D:

[obsidian sigil]

Oh dip, thank you didn't know

[tawdry bobcat]

Hi fella

[warped turret]

yer thats why i said pick one, me it be stable but feel it be nice to just chat to other so it be that, game makes me feel i am nobody

[iron blade]

Yes indeed you are

[obsidian sigil]

I only played BF3, 4 and 2042... i always thought it had 4 members lol

[dapper river]

Server performance was far better than BF4's launch, and that's a fact

There were hiccups yes but not "game begins to rubberband for no fucking reason even when nothing's going on" bad

[obsidian sigil]

Idk 4 seams more natural 🤷🏽‍♂️

[remote kiln]

precisely, which is a feat all by itself really

[tawdry bobcat]

2042 is more of a love letter to Cod fans than Battlefield fans.

[iron blade]

Hehehehe im gonna say it...

Im gonna say it!

||BRING BACK CLASSES REEEEEE||

[wide shore]

I know people like 5 man squads because it let you join with one more friend. But 5 man squads basically allowed some people to not be in a full squad, or even a squad at all.

[glossy storm]

I believe the love letter part was intended for Portal.

[remote kiln]

getting that type of thing running stable is a multi month project in itself, people's brains would melt trying to understand things like neural scaling

[tawdry bobcat]

well it was one of the most unloving letters of my life

[warped turret]

its ok i am nobody anyway stick to want i know best

[dapper river]

What can I say? modern gamers wanna jerk off to their skins that they earned with their parents' cash ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wide shore]

There were multiple times in BF1, where upon joining every single squad was full with 5 players and I had to be alone in mine.

[obsidian sigil]

F :(

[wide shore]

In-fact, I remember threads on Reddit about this exact issue.

[tender folio]

[iron blade]

I didnt mind that tbh, a spot would open up eventually

[obsidian sigil]

I played BF1 on console as a lonewolf, didn't care much about sqauds

All i was doing was running around like an idiot with a syringe lol

[arctic grove]

2042 needs 8 squads of 8 players and watch how teamwork is formed

[fiery shoal]

it is, but the internet is not very good at reading

[arctic grove]

if thats a love letter

[glossy storm]

Yeah, I remember reading that.

[wide shore]

But why have that, when you can have 4 man squads and 9 times out of 10 there is multiple squads open to join.

[arctic grove]

then the world is fucked

[iron blade]

5 ppl means more ppl to spawn on

[tawdry bobcat]

I can't wait to see Dice get the visceral games treatment from EA😂

[obsidian sigil]

Well that escalated quickly lol

[arctic grove]

tbh bfv gets boring when stomping the enemy team for hours and hours

[fiery shoal]

kinda fucked up that you get enjoyment out of studios closing and people losing jobs because you dont like a game..

[arctic grove]

i can play in a solo squad and still go 50-10 lmao

[wide shore]

This, along with “brutal expectations” have become a meme, and yet, it never even gets cited correctly.

[hushed topaz]

Turn off hax

[arctic grove]

jokes on you i got accused 3 times yesterday of cheating on bfv sooooo

[hushed topaz]

Dont be sad this is just how it works out sometimes

[fiery shoal]

well that and the "gamers are uneducated" bit from bfv as well, people just like to twist things

[foggy crest]

not at all

[iron blade]

Well the whole “we will be on the right side of history” thing is utter bullshit on their end

[arctic grove]

2042 is a love letter to scummy business practices

[fiery shoal]

ok.. different topic

[tawdry bobcat]

Okay do you think I care?

[glossy storm]

I don't think 'Love you guys, but expectations are brutal...' was a valid excuse.

[arctic grove]

i mean if they dont make good games then they arent good at their job

[fiery shoal]

apparently not, which is even more fucked up, dont get mad that im pointing out your flaws

[iron blade]

What? You said smth about bfv, and I responded with another stupid thing the devs said

[tawdry bobcat]

I'm not mad about it in fact I'm accepting it

[wide shore]

When fans are expecting them to work crunch hours on Christmas, it definitely is.

[tawdry bobcat]

I'm an asshole that doesn't take too kindly to somebody trying to sell me a broken piece of trash.

[arctic grove]

its clear that ea has no intention of shutting down dice at this point after hearing what they said about the future of the franchise

[fiery shoal]

so they make 1 disappointing game in 2042 and suddenly they make multiple bad games and should lose their jobs? thats a bit extreme

[arctic grove]

im talking in general

[glossy storm]

Oh, that definitely is. I was talking about expecting what DICE refers to as 'legacy features' since the beginning of the game.

[fiery shoal]

but thats what the "brutal expectations" came from...

[glossy storm]

People who expect the developers to unwillingly work during the holidays are certified assholes, no doubt about that.

[iron blade]

Bfv was also a faliure at release, having two games basically flop isnt a good thing

[tawdry bobcat]

if they lose their jobs it's their own damn fault for making a shity game

[wide shore]

But that’s not what they meant when they said “brutal expectations.” That is entirely about working on holiday.

[fiery shoal]

youre ironically proving what i was saying, we were talking about people misquoting what dice/ea devs have said

[arctic grove]

i mean yknow if the game was actually good then we wouldnt be pleading for them to fix the game on the holidays

[iron blade]

At least what i said was actually what they said

[warped turret]

YEP EA gets the chopping board out wish they would just let DICE make the game without sticking there nose in sometimes do not get me wrong i also love EA

[arctic grove]

but the game is in such an abominable state that working on holidays is almost a necessary evil

[iron blade]

Still funny

[wide shore]

I don’t think it’s fair to expect anybody to work on holiday.

[arctic grove]

im not saying they should work 12h workdays on the holidays

the thing is they didnt even say a single word during their holidays

[plucky plaza]

Of course it's fair, DICE devs are robots, they should work 24 hr a day 7 days a week 365 days a year

[warped turret]

Bet it was not nice working from home trying to make the game no friends to help u

[glossy storm]

But they wouldn't have received so much flak in the first place, had they actually included all legacy features at launch.

[iron blade]

They should’ve at least given SOME news during the holiday, not saying they should work on holidays, but give us smth

[arctic grove]

i dont think its too unrealistic to expect at least a verbal update on how the game is pushing forward on the holidays

[wide shore]

I’m not trying to downplay the state of the game. It was abysmal. And it’s sad to see that the game was clearly rushed out of the door for Christmas sales. But they deserve a holiday break just like anybody else who works a 9-5. They’re humans too.

[fiery shoal]

i have this kind of expectation for someone im in a relationship with, not a company thats sole purpose is to make money off of me and i can only decide to give it to them or not

[dull badger]

They deserve as much a break/holiday with their families as anyone else. And honestly you don't know what they do on their holidays. So stop with those comments. I suggest you all take a look at #server-news.

Again, you are welcome to display your opinion on the game, but keep things respectful.

[arctic grove]

bruh

[gritty gale]

Was there a new update?

[fiery shoal]

its weird how people like you and me can criticize the game but be reasonable about the whole situation, and we are the ones being questioned for it...

[arctic grove]

they should at the very least say something during the holidays

[dull badger]

That's also something up to them.

[fiery shoal]

it would be nice, but the last time they said "we are working on it" people got mad

[arctic grove]

i definitely didnt get mad

[fiery shoal]

didnt say you personally did..

[arctic grove]

dunno why anyone would either

[fiery shoal]

idk either, but they did

[wide shore]

Maybe, but what is there to say? “Hey, there will be an update once we get back, cause we’re all on holiday and not working on anything cause we’re spending time with family like normal people”

[arctic grove]

Some people think the world has to revolve around them when they want something

[fiery shoal]

aka some peoples expectations are brutal

[proper river]

Must be nice

[arctic grove]

at least lay down plans for future content/updates after the holidays

because at this point its a ghost town

[fiery shoal]

they likely crunched a shit load of time just to get the game out to the delayed launch and it was already bad, how do you think they had a roadmap laid out as well?

[arctic grove]

Also referred to the guys who still think dice will totally scrap this title or something else ridiculous like that

[somber pebble]

A better plan would have not rushed the game for holiday sales and leave it in a broken state for months

[wide shore]

This is fair. We definitely should have a roadmap by now

[arctic grove]

well thats a whole story for another day

[somber pebble]

Hindsight lol

[fiery shoal]

doesnt sound like a dice decision and likely the break was already pre determined

[arctic grove]

im pretty sure dice management is just as responsible for this

[fiery shoal]

its not like the holidays are a surprise

[somber pebble]

Oh it was definitely a management decision

[wide shore]

That’s the unfortunate part of releasing a game at the end of the year. It’s a shame it’s an industry standard.

[arctic grove]

or you can be microsoft and release the game when its finished

[arctic grove]

this looks just like the gartner hype cycle

[fiery shoal]

recency bias, or did you forget about their game before halo in crackdown?

[arctic grove]

i think crackdown was more on the devs than microsoft lol the game got delayed like 6 times

[somber pebble]

The development of crackdown 3 was such a mess they scaled everything down just to release it

[fiery shoal]

the fact is they released a game when it wasnt finished.. but suddenly thats not the criteria anymore

[wide shore]

You wanna talk about a game that overhyped, and under delivered? Oh boy. Remember when Crackdown 3 Multiplayer levels were going to feature fully dynamic destructible skyscrapers and shit?

[arctic grove]

i mean 6 delays is where any company would draw the line

[fiery shoal]

sounds like youre biased

[arctic grove]

like just release it at that point tbh

[somber pebble]

The crowbcat video

[arctic grove]

halo infinite came out in a pretty good state though and it was delayed by a year

Dang, got stuck in the loading screen that shows a pic of the map and it’s name in the center, must be a bug or something

[arctic grove]

i mean if the devs cant finish the game no matter how much time you give them then what can you do

[somber pebble]

Setting release dates is kind of stupid tho, especially now

[wide shore]

That man is always going wild

[fiery shoal]

ironically i think halo and 2042 both have problems, just opposite aspects. halo gameplay is 100% true to its core (imo to a fault), but optimization, net coding, balance is (or was) abysmal

[arctic grove]

at least halo came out in a decently polished state

[plucky plaza]

I just want Infinite to have a true fullscreen

[somber pebble]

And was ftp, even if it was a mess, oh well didn't cost anything to play it

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. just the 3 points i said suggest otherwise

[arctic grove]

like everything just works as intended

in comparison

[fiery shoal]

idk the last time i played i had insane desync and hit reg problems, not only that but for a 4v4 title i was only getting 10 fps more than 2042 with 128 players

[arctic grove]

while that may be true and optimization wasnt the greatest on my setup either at least the game isnt plagued by bugs

[fiery shoal]

youd hope a much simpler game doesnt have as much bugs

[somber pebble]

Waiting for the 2042 video

[fiery shoal]

like its only natural, of course something like skyrim will have more bugs than super mario odyssey

[arctic grove]

Anyone else been able to load in to matches on PS5?

Nvm, figured out why I couldn’t

[merry hollow]

Crab game has less bugs than this game

[arctic grove]

Simple games usually do

[serene raven]

rip denied again by steam

rip 80 bucks

[fiery shoal]

damn i was super interested in that

[grizzled whale]

Good, dont try if you already exceeded the conditions

[serene raven]

3 hours of it was me trying to fix it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fiery shoal]

sure

[still vault]

Sad but true that graph.

[fiery shoal]

how confident people are that X thing happened youd assume they actually worked for dice/ea, instead their source is "dude trust me" from randos online that cant read

[scenic tartan]

I just think halo infinite is dull and not fun at all

[earnest verge]

Yeah, but what about the aliens tho?

[scenic tartan]

Feels like playing a very old fps

[wise zodiac]

I need to find a fun mobile game to play on my phone

Lol

[fiery shoal]

it literally is, i said it earlier that halo stays 100% true to its core which i think is detrimental because it plays like a game from the early/mid 2000s

[fiery shoal]

the only mobile game i consistently play is brawl stars

[scenic tartan]

Right and if they change too much people complain

[wise zodiac]

I want to play Diablo Immortals, but damnit, it isn't releasing yet. =[

[plucky plaza]

Clash Royale best mobile game

[still vault]

And if they changed the game they might have been accused by their community for "chasing trends" just like 2042. Loose loose scenario.

[scenic tartan]

I have thought that ever since Halo 4 the Halo series didn't need to continue as a fps
Bungie did everything that there was to do between Halo 1 and reach

[wise zodiac]

Dare I say... candy crush?

[plucky plaza]

That too, candy crush is legendary

[earnest verge]

you are a monster

[fiery shoal]

i guess halo infinite proves that people really do just want graphical updates to franchise games 🤷

[wise zodiac]

Infinite brings it back to Halo 2/Halo 3 feels. And I love it.

Reach, 4, and 5 were garbage for multiplayer

[fiery shoal]

i have thouuuusands of hours of halo 1/2, so playing infinite got extremely boring fast for me

[earnest verge]

its true, halo infinite is REALLY good, thanks the statement u made earlier

[still vault]

With the amount of people that find it boring I would say the opposite is also proven.

[plucky plaza]

The only issue I have with Infinite is the progression system, but the actual gameplay itself is on point

[scenic tartan]

I would rather just play Halo 2/3 with good maps and not these shitty 343 maps that are just hallways in a square arena

[earnest verge]

yes

[wise zodiac]

I mean, Halo 2 and 3 maps were similar.

[fiery shoal]

true, im an example of that, i assume there are more people into it than not just looking at numbers

[scenic tartan]

343 map design is boring AF they have never even approached bungie's classic design

All of 343's maps look like they are made in forge then they had the art team go over them to hide it

[fiery shoal]

lockout best map ever

[glossy storm]

IDK, I like the slightly more open ended levels in Infinite.

[still vault]

So, the only thing we have concluded is that gamers will complain no matter what you do 😄

[fiery shoal]

lol yup, which we both knew already xD

just personally, i dont go to the halo discord and complain about it all day because i dont like it

[scenic tartan]

Like this map in HI that's supposed to be a city street in new mombasa. It doesn't look like a city at all. It looks like a forge arena with a city decoration.

Compare that to turf which really feels like a corner of a city

[still vault]

You don't? 😮

[glossy storm]

I only visit this server and subreddit for entertainment.

[foggy halo]

same

[sudden valve]

Here's the problem, back 10+ years ago, gaming really took off. Studios cranked out some incredible games and created great expectations for their audiences. Now all of a sudden, in the past 5 or so years, the studios that used to make masterpieces and passion projects for us proceed to shit all over our favorite franchises, creating games solely for money.

[scenic tartan]

I can never imagine 343 making anything as good as zanibar in Halo 2

[sudden valve]

Of course people complain when companies do that

[earnest verge]

tbh they should just mmorpg their popular franchises, keep adding content, every few years touch up graphics a little bit, sell it as expansions, then when u wanna do something new or different just create a spinoff, gamers happy and company keep collecting profits

[fiery shoal]

so youre saying after 10 years of apparently obvious gradual degradation that you are still giving them money to complain about the game later?

[sudden valve]

thats what franchises like ace attorney did, and they were incredibly successful with it

[brittle forge]

Halo Infinite’s pretty good but mp-wise I understand that the game really doesn’t have that many maps or playlists compared to older games

[sudden valve]

even their spinoffs are incredible

[fiery shoal]

expected when its f2p

[stoic tundra]

halo runs like shit for how it looks

[earnest verge]

wdym, it looks gr8 and runs gr8

[fiery shoal]

im always surprised by how many people shit on 2042 when it gets like.. 10 fps less than halo infinite even though infinite is a 4v4, arena shooter

[stoic tundra]

compared to most modern games...no

[earnest verge]

what are u comparing it to?

[brittle forge]

I don’t think that was expected whatsoever actually unless 343 came out and said “yo there ain’t gonna be shit here”

[stoic tundra]

i get higher fps in 2042

[plucky plaza]

The game itself is unoptimised yeah, on Xbox it runs decently ive heard but not on PC. I just wish that they gave us fullscreen, which can definitely improve framerates

[brittle forge]

AAA game and bad performance name a better duo

[stoic tundra]

battlefield and vanguard

[earnest verge]

for battlefield im gonna just say doubt / something wrong on ur end cause thats wierd af. For vanguard i think vanguard looks like shit personally but ive not bought it just watched it online

[brittle forge]

Halo Infinite has only slightly better top fps but it runs way more smoothly than 2042 does for me personally. 2042 stutters pretty much constantly down to 30-40 fps

[fiery shoal]

idk, some parts of 2042 look great, others look kind of like playdough, but at the same time infinite doesnt really have anything going for it but a futuristic sheen

[stoic tundra]

halo is just too basic for me.

graphics and gameplay

[plucky plaza]

its just an old school shooter really

[glossy storm]

Orbital looks beautiful.

[brittle forge]

Halo is fun but I’m a customize my loadout type of person rather than the arena style find your gun

[earnest verge]

this i can understand, from a taste standpoint, for me i love the look, it feels real and true to the old games, i feel lucky they heard he community and remade it from when they first showed it

[brittle forge]

I did like Infinite for a while but there wasn’t much keeping me there

[plucky plaza]

Yeah Halo Infinite is true to the Halo identity

[stoic tundra]

i mean it takes pure skill like csgo thats what i like about it

[brittle forge]

Unless the game makes you play fiesta lol

[fiery shoal]

id argue halo is more knowledge than skill, considering headshots arent even worth going for 95% of the time

[brittle forge]

But other than that yeah

[earnest verge]

agreed, knowledge is the skill in halo

[brittle forge]

I mean I’d consider map knowledge to be part of skill tbh. Obviously it’s not the same type of skill as gun skill but it all works together

[fiery shoal]

knowing to pick controller over mnk is half the battle

[arctic grove]

Halo is all about skill 🤠

[errant scarab]

hi

[fiery shoal]

howdy

[arctic grove]

Any first person shooter you play you can play for fun or skill

If Battlefield 2042 goes free it be simple to make it a paywall behind EA play

[mighty arch]

There is one thing that might save 2042 and its community hosted servers

[glossy storm]

Battlefield 2042 x Among Us.

[fiery shoal]

among us at first popular burst was actually fun, people just started and teaming up outside of the game and ruined it

[brittle forge]

Specialists in Fortnite when?

[real owl]

is battlefield 1 worth it?

[mighty arch]

I had fun with it

[earnest verge]

the only thing that will save the game is content. More maps, more guns, more fps. Without these 3 things the game will die no matter what they do

[tawdry bobcat]

Yes

[glass swan]

Hell yes

[edgy oriole]

im a map sloot. give all maps. guns dont bother me atm.

[tawdry bobcat]

buy it on a sale though.

[mighty arch]

Wrong. Going to lobby after every round and no serverbrowser is dealbreaker for me

[edgy oriole]

lobby closing after every game is pretty annoying tbh

[glass swan]

Fr

[glossy storm]

Were BFV's third person animations always so good?

[earnest verge]

its sucks indeed, but if people dont want or cant play the game, serverbrowser wont mean shit

[fiery shoal]

eh, im personally not inclined to go back for content either, imo the game is just too boring solo

[gusty jasper]

Not always true, you just need to nail the game down in fundamentals. Adding content to a trash game is just a trash game with more trash to play with

[valid bobcat]

Make portal free to play and import all of BBC2 and BF3

[mighty arch]

And still xp limit

[tawdry bobcat]

I Believe so

[earnest verge]

yes ofc, but that goes without saying imo

[valid bobcat]

Is xp still limited on DICE official servers?

[tawdry bobcat]

it's only limited for custom servers

[glass swan]

Yeah the character would react to hitting a wall or bumping into things and other little cool details

[gusty jasper]

I see what you're saying though, this game has enough content to satisfy atleast 12-24 hours of play time

After you unlock all 5 weapons

[earnest verge]

yes and alot of things are subjectiv af, good maps for example

[arctic grove]

Is the next battlefield being worked on yet

[gusty jasper]

Orbital is a good map

[valid bobcat]

The maps are the worst part, so boring. And so many damn tanks.

[gusty jasper]

Wait you don't like open fields?

[valid bobcat]

:)

[glass swan]

Forreal they’re pretty bad, the decent maps which there’s like 2 or 3 but they meh mid

[valid bobcat]

The one with the big Ships is good, that's about it

[earnest verge]

and 2 of those are from bad company

[glass swan]

Talking about AOW

[glossy storm]

Damn, 2042 is a legit downgrade from that.

[tawdry bobcat]

did you watch the downgrades video?

[gusty jasper]

Have you guys seen that comparison video of the BFV/BF1 animations and etc

[glossy storm]

I did. Some of the clips, like the third person animations part, astonished me.

[earnest verge]

yeah i only play portal, the bf42 maps are all pretty bad, i can enjoy 2 of them, but they are nothing i write home about

[arctic grove]

2042=disgrace to the franchise?

[gusty jasper]

Yeah like holy shit, I thought I was the only one that noticed those prestine animations

[glass swan]

Deadass is, like they’re cool visual details nothing gameplay changing but that’s literally every aspect of 2042 except for the player count and tornado

[glossy storm]

I used to think 2042 was decent in the animation department, till I saw BF1's and V's, both of which I unfortunately haven't played.

[earnest verge]

its not to late, they are both alive

[floral aspen]

Battlefield 2042 is like sitting to take a poop and everything is going great until you realize that while you're peeing it's coming out the gap between the bowl and the seat

[arctic grove]

hi guys how's the game doing

[glass swan]

Yeah i was pretty disappointed when I first saw 2042’s animations, bf1 and bfv blow it out the water, they’re so clean

[edgy oriole]

we boycotting until spiderman skins come out

[tawdry bobcat]

@glossy storm funniest thing if you empty reload the Magnum 44 it will reload with 5 bullets instead of 6 as if it had a chamber like a pistol

[valid bobcat]

BF1 is fire bombs all over. BFV is gucci thi

[arctic grove]

wow man

[tawdry bobcat]

the old dice would never mess up details like that

[glossy storm]

Yeah, I saw that. There was some patch note stating that they fixed it, but apparently, it's still the same.

[arctic grove]

TODD WHERE IS MY REFUND

U know when u fucked up when this game has a 0.5 on metacritic

[arctic grove]

Yeah well. Sadly old dice no longer exists as you can tell from 2042

[brittle forge]

What’s funny is that 2042’s third person animations aren’t even close to as good even CoD’s takedowns, which is sad since that’s the game they got the idea from

[arctic grove]

For what game

[earnest verge]

im really interested in how large portion of the initial playerbase straight up quit just cause they cant get enough fps. I get enough for me, but almost no one i know does

[tawdry bobcat]

that's why I'm saying I hope they get the visceral games treatment

[arctic grove]

Bad game buy BFV and 1

[arctic grove]

67 todd i played it todd i want you to pay for my mental trauma

[glossy storm]

I swear, if I was allowed to buy them now, I'd do it in an instant, won't even wait for any sale...

[earnest verge]

i already own 2x of each battlefield there is expect bf heroes

[mighty arch]

Bf1 assignments took some time to finnish

[floral aspen]

Those takedowns have no place in BF. Absolute stupidity. First person takedowns and bayonet charges in BF1 and V were excellent

[glass swan]

From tom Henderson he said there’s around 50k in total are playing, all platforms

[arctic grove]

yeah... no sorry

[fiery shoal]

source?

[earnest verge]

wasnt my question

[glossy storm]

It's Tom Henderson's new video.

[floral aspen]

He has inside sources in many companies

[arctic grove]

2042 is so bad

[glass swan]

Yeah he’s a pretty valid source

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-unimpressed-meh-really-seriously-gif-16279809

[earnest verge]

not allowed?

[glossy storm]

Eh, it's complicated. Relates to game addiction and stuff.

[floral aspen]

Henderson said if any part of 2042 were to go f2p it would be portal

[arctic grove]

no shit, 0.5 on metacritic and had to potential to be a great game, this is a war crime

[glass swan]

They should just put all their resources in portal

[fiery shoal]

welp if true i suspected this number long ago

[earnest verge]

i understand bro, i think all gamers are pretty addicted

[arctic grove]

todd you are forcing my hand how about a law suit

[arctic grove]

that was 3 years ago

[brittle forge]

Not a bad idea, there’s no progression in that mode anyway since everything’s already unlocked outside of the 2042 factions

[floral aspen]

It's tough to shake. I'm bored of all my games yet I still feel the need to get on

[tawdry bobcat]

You don't really even need a source just some intuitive logic.

[arctic grove]

yes todd 3 years ago i remember but you never payed todd its time to pay with your soul todd

[fiery shoal]

well i had assumed 50k a week ago, but sadly i went through that logic because people were saying the game is dead, which 50k isnt dead

[earnest verge]

oh i dont have that problem, there is something fun to get on with ur friends most of the time, and if its not, discord shall provide entertainment meanwhile

[arctic grove]

Game guaranteed would’ve been really fucking good if the bf1 team never disbanded

[arctic grove]

[floral aspen]

I need to find a good group to game with. I only really play with a few friends and they're spotty getting on

[brittle forge]

The Virgin “My source is [insert whatever source]” vs The Chad “My source is that I made it the fuck up!”

[arctic grove]

todd i will reap your soul todd just like you sucked dry that company of all its good devs

[floral aspen]

My source is I peed and the bubbles in the bowl told me

[brittle forge]

based

[arctic grove]

ok?

[tawdry bobcat]

the game isn't necessarily dead but it's suffering from a fatal gunshot wound

it'll be dead soon enough don't worry

[fiery shoal]

yea, its in the process of dying, ive been saying that for weeks now, but its not dead

[floral aspen]

A gunshot wound that the doctor can fix but doesn't want to put in the effort

[arctic grove]

yes, and dice doesn't know jack shit on what we as a fanbase want

[brittle forge]

Depends on the seasonal content announced, if the content is like 2 weapons and 1 map every 4 months the game is fucked

[earnest verge]

look for competetive or roleplaying groups, they are real sweaty nerds, always playing

[arctic grove]

just play bf4 or the last title

[brittle forge]

But if it’s like a DLC pack in terms of size they might get enough out of it

[fiery shoal]

ranking games in terms of my enjoyment RIGHT NOW:

bfv > bf4 > 2042 > bf1

[tawdry bobcat]

I can't believe I'm missing the old days of Premium passes how times have changed

[brittle forge]

If DICE could actually do a live service you wouldn’t be

[earnest verge]

premium passes was the shiiit boi ❤️

[arctic grove]

Games already fucked imo. i mean look at it, it took them the longest to add a fucking scoreboard that should’ve been in with launch

[brittle forge]

But apparently shit like a scoreboard is a live-service element now

[tawdry bobcat]

yeah they split up the fan base but that's better than what we have now

[earnest verge]

meh, no real fans didnt get the pass back in the good old days when they was the real deal

[fiery shoal]

i personally have no problems putting a game down until content comes as long as its all free

[elder patrol]

2042 took down my picture of a panda pug

[brittle forge]

Better a split playerbase than no playerbase at all

[tawdry bobcat]

This☝️

[fiery shoal]

as someone that had to pay for gaming myself and wasnt well off, i didnt buy dlc just because i had to also feed myself

[floral aspen]

Bf2042 is like seeing corn in your poop and being like "wtf I didn't eat any corn"

[brittle forge]

Honestly $15 map packs were a better value for money too, given stuff sold for $15 now is like one skin instead of 4 maps and 6 weapons

[earnest verge]

yeah i mean thats fair point hard to argue with ofc, expansion and nuudles for 3 months or eat well

[fiery shoal]

thast not exactly the same scenario considering that 15 dollar content is now completely free and expensive skins is the result of that

no you dont get frequency or quality of paid dlc, but you get the point

[brittle forge]

The old 15 dollar content never comes ever

[fiery shoal]

idk bfv ended up with some 8-10 maps and 30ish weapons in the live service

[brittle forge]

And it’s drip fed to shit

[fiery shoal]

all im saying is you cant say 'i used to spend 15 bucks for maps and weapons and now its a single skin", thats a bit misleading to say the least

[brittle forge]

Spread out over two years. That’s 2 map packs worth of maps, I’ll give em the weapons cause they did a good job there. But the Pacific was the only significant content drop of a bunch of things at once

[fiery shoal]

i did say the frequency wasnt up to the previous paid for standards though

[earnest verge]

true

[glacial nimbus]

🦀

[brittle forge]

I mean not really. I get the whole “it’s just cosmetic” thing but that only goes so far when a lot of attention is diverted to that type of stuff. We objectively got less content than Premium outside of guns over a longer period of time and overall lifespan

[fiery shoal]

despite 2042 being a huge disappointment, i truly believe that recent gaming is the most money friendly ever

[brittle forge]

Now battlefield five is the only live service game they’ve done so this one may turn out better but they haven’t announced anything yet