battlefield-2042

[remote kiln]

theres no issues with secure boot with blackwell anyways

[misty pewter]

any features required by the game MUST BE disclosed in the minium requirements thats why they are MINIUM Not disclosing this supported-but-not-enabled feature AT the time of the games original release means that its not required

futhrer more eas own statement covers this "if secure boot is supported you will be prompted" note the IF

this isn't starwars you aren't darth vader there is no sound logical arugment for 'I have altered the the deal"

[vocal tusk]

I mean...every single linux user lost access to their games with EA AC was added to all the games. And they also didnt give a crap. Why will they now?

[remote kiln]

this game doesnt run on linux, and i dont care about it

[misty pewter]

the game is still for sale no ware in the minium requirements does it listed that secure boot is NOW a required enabled feature

[vocal tusk]

Open a forum issue and ask them to update the minimum specs

👍

It is now required

[misty pewter]

and to reiterate the processor has nothing todo with secure boot thats a uefi spec there are boards that got a uefi update that supported secure boot that didn't ship with a tpm

I have stack of dead HP core2duoss that got a uefi update

[remote kiln]

tpm and secure boot are not the same thing

[misty pewter]

because they are enterprise machines

[remote kiln]

you can die on this hill it doesnt matter to me in particular, lying about root of trust is beyond crazy

[misty pewter]

its not the root of trust tho

you are misunderstanding how it works

or had it explained badly to you

[remote kiln]

dual booting is outside the remit of the developers, sorry bud, its something 1% of the population of the playerbase do

[fickle vector]

got any EVGA boards?

[grand socket]

so most of the servers now only has bots because everyone is scared from enbaling this secure boot thing ?

[misty pewter]

the root does not matter as long as the chain is verifiable

and the cpu being the root is not a requirement its best practice but not required as per the uefi spec

[remote kiln]

unless ive not already been clear, i think these requirements dont go far enough, vanguard with HVCI enforcement and TPM is where javelin should be, but they cant do that because it has a zen 1 processor on the system requirements, and those dont have acceleration for GMET

[misty pewter]

No keep your crappy anticheat out of my dam os kernel

[vocal tusk]

I dont even know what point you are trying to make. They are 100% correct, that its not the problem of a developer...whos game only works on windows...if users choose to dual boot linux

[teal pelican]

You are nerds.

[remote kiln]

AMD PSB/intel BG is where RoT signing begins, but nice try

[vocal tusk]

Youre back to opinions now tho, and not facts

[misty pewter]

No it begins with the platform key which is supposted to be keept privite and stored securely and we all know how that went

your PK is where your chain begins and dies by

loose that and its gg

[remote kiln]

uh? dude, the UEFI is signed, by the AMD PSP/intel BG, thats how SPI flashing works

[grand socket]

honestly this is just how modern integrity enforcement evolved, it's not just about windows vs linux or dev laziness. most anticheats hook into hvcisec, vbs, and kernel-mode telemetry to catch low-level tampering. once you start dealing with hypervisor-based security, you’re playing by microsoft’s rules whether you like it or not.

[misty pewter]

I had to disable secure boot on 26 systems after hp got caught using a test key

[grand socket]

and yeah, amd psb and intel boot guard are more about locking the platform at the firmware level, not runtime. they kick in at boot, not while you're mid-game. runtime enforcement comes from driver signing, hlk policies, and in some cases kernel callback monitoring.

[fickle vector]

the fact Secure Boot doesn't eliminate cheats is proof it's a waste of time and it screwed innocent users through no fault of their own

[vocal tusk]

Doesnt yet

[remote kiln]

nothing eliminates cheats

lol

[misty pewter]

again optional not a requirement when hp shipped there updates for bios to pure uefi they just shipped the key and used there smc to store it

[fickle vector]

I highly doubt it's gonna work later either

[remote kiln]

an anticheat doesnt exist to eliminate or extinguish cheats, they exist to limit the scope for them to happen

[misty pewter]

https://www.binarly.io/blog/pkfail-untrusted-platform-keys-undermine-secure-boot-on-uefi-ecosystem

[remote kiln]

thats why battlefront 2, 1, and 5 were/are infested with hackers because one has none, and 2 didnt before

[vocal tusk]

It is likely to work better in future games, where they dont list older CPUs as minimum

[grand socket]

you could bypass some of this with test signing or patchguard exploits, but you’ll either trip wdac or get flagged by the game anyway. it's not devs being hostile to linux, it's just the stack evolving in a way that favors closed ecosystems.

[misty pewter]

epic self pwnage by multiple vendors

[misty pewter]

and you can do all of thoes checks without requring secureboot

[remote kiln]

they already were hostile to linux because this game was never compatible even when it used easy anticheat

so nothing changes

[misty pewter]

again I am not against requiring secureboot I am against people mis using it because it looks like they are doing something while doing nothing at all

I am against breaking running systems for NO reason

[fickle vector]

I second his notion

Secure Boot didn't do shit

[misty pewter]

I can and do self sign my own systems I have my own uefi drivers and shims this has no impact on my workflow the the rampent mishandling of this is assinine

and this constant war against cheating is creating nothing but victums and movivating cheaters to get even more creative

christ I saw a post about somebody running a aimbot/no recoil from the processors own secure onclave

[grand socket]

yeah but without secureboot you're already out of spec for most of the driver enforcement stack, test signing will still get blocked unless you're fully disabling integrity checks. and games that enforce hvcisec won't even start unless vbs is running clean.

[misty pewter]

I wont post that here for obvious reasons

but google it

[grand socket]

steam os is doing a good job with proton, but at the end of the day it’s still translating win32 calls. unless anticheat vendors start offering native linux kernel modules with the same level of enforcement, most devs won’t risk loosening their protection just to support proton users.

[misty pewter]

yes because microsoft can't make up there mind on how they want to secure there stack

[grand socket]

yeah that’s the thing, even back when anticheat was just userland eac or battleye, they still didn’t play nice with wine. the hostility isn’t new, but now it’s baked into the security model.

[drowsy cosmos]

Where is the bf1 chat

[misty pewter]

so lets make it worse by fracutuing it even more

that makes a ton of sense

cheaters are gonna cheat give me dedicated servers give me rcon we will police our selves

[remote kiln]

theres no 2 ways about it, you can become the vanguard way where you inspect absolutely everything, or you can go the ricochet way which does absolutely nothing where basic cheats thrive, people having to run via a secure enclave or via a separate pc is an investment in time and money, to be frank, this doesnt go far enough, but its a half way house because the minimum supported processor has no hardware acceleration for GMET which means a minimum of TPM would slow that processor to half its performance

[arctic grove]

is the NTW good vs vehicles or is it just gimmick ?

[chilly jacinth]

Yesn't

[misty pewter]

which vanguard still gets beaten anyway so again committing one way or the other at the expensive of legit users is pointless

[chilly jacinth]

Good vs lightly armored stuff

and if you wanna stop regen for heavy stuff

[arctic grove]

ah so not worth it since lightly armored vehicle are easy to deal with already 😦

I'm just sick of tanks honestly and being solo player makes it hard without a squad

[remote kiln]

as i said theres no such thing as a total 100% full proof AC, it doesnt mean it shouldnt exist

[grand socket]

yeah but that’s the trap right, you either go full vanguard with full stack inspection and take the perf hit, or go soft like ricochet and let cheats run wild under userland.... either way, legit users lose either to performance tanks or false positives ..what nobody talks about is how tpm requirements and secure enclaves gatekeep hardware access, which punishes older but still capable systems.. it’s not about security vs freedom, it’s just bad tradeoffs baked into rushed enforcement...

[misty pewter]

it does how ever mean that using common sense SHOULD exist you should be weighting any potential improvements against any problems

and right now as the state of windows being what it is this creates more then it fixes

by a MILE

shifting slightly gaming hand helds are apperently back. and valve has put there weight behind it

so you could be teeing up to give up a entire market segment

[remote kiln]

theres always a loser yeah, just how it goes, no easy solution one way or the other

[misty pewter]

I am relatively old I have been administrating game servers for two and a half decades I have seen it all I have seen rage hackers and ddos attacks I have seen game servers used to push malware to clients I have seen thological debates on cheating for 25+ years

[main vale]

Ahhhhhb

[misty pewter]

in the end after everybodys has cooled it, cheating really doesn't matter

in either direction

people that lack the morality and cheat are gonna cheat people that lack the basic hand eye cordnation are going to use that as jusification for needing assists

the people that are goood are going to look at both sides and shake there heads

[severe totem]

I'm on an 'older but capable' system rn (i7-6700K) and only had to enable Secure Boot as my mobo isn't even TPM capable

[umbral tartan]

How i can Download the New battlefield?

[eternal ledge]

Bf is dead and nothing will save it. It never gets to bf3 audience numbers

[vocal tusk]

BF3 didnt have amazing audience numbers

[umbral tartan]

Bf3 plays more people now you need to look

[arctic grove]

does bot difficulty in solo play affect xp gains ?

[chilly jacinth]

no

[severe totem]

Oh yeah? But in COD you call in an airstrike... In BATELFILD U R TEH AIRSTREIK!!!1 DUDUDUDUDUDU!!!1

[remote kiln]

no, theyre all less, no scaling between difficulty

[misty pewter]

bf2 has more active players then bf3

[eternal ledge]

Bs

[acoustic seal]

bring heuristics back, bring me back to 2011 when sourcemod anticheat was frying these losers left and right

[misty pewter]

bring back admins in spec and demos

bring back rcon slap

no kickvotes can stay dead

[quick moss]

Is there a way to get around the secure boot so I can still play

How do I do that

[misty pewter]

or play battlefield2

[quick moss]

How do I do that

Like do I have to pay someone to do it

[vital quail]

#direct-communication message

[quick moss]

Thanks

[misty pewter]

inb4brick

[arctic grove]

is the fxm 33 just supposed to be completely useless if the enemy can just flare, go away then come back and redo the whole thing ?

[chrome current]

Yeah

Flares do that

Pretty sure that's the rules

[acoustic seal]

low effort counter for an equally low effort missile, use something else

it forces a little bit of downtime while pilots wait for their flares to recharge but don't expect to get kills with it

[vital quail]

It doesn't even 1 shot anything either

[arctic grove]

I don't understand the whole "yeah flares do that" the point here isn't "what do flares do" it's that aircrafts can just abuse them by running away from fights after using them and coming back and instantly having them again, just remove AA rocket launchers then

[vital quail]

Its pretty much a participation gadget

[arctic grove]

Then remove it and stop pretending it's an actual gadget, either make it one shot anything that flies if it hits, or prevent aircrafts from ever repairing without landing somewhere and wasting time

[abstract night]

I don’t think anything that locks onto a vehicle should ever 1 shot it

[misty pewter]

this^

[vital quail]

The m5 and rpg actually 1 shot air vehicles if they have soflam

[arctic grove]

this is the same issue that bf5 has where an aircraft can just be 1km away from the ground and just spray a bunch of rockets and one shot anything on the ground when an easy fix would be to set a limit of distance on their rockets, otherwise make them detonate in the air to prevent abusing the distance

[arctic grove]

and guess what, soflam requires coordination in a squad which we know is something online games do have right

[misty pewter]

stop expecting dice to make logical and grounded decisions are you insane

[vital quail]

I would rather have someone using soflam to just switch to Crawford with an rpg, would be so much more useful

[arctic grove]

yeah sorry I'm just crashing out, I'm fucking sick of modern games with 0 balancing when it could be much better, I'm just glad i got this shit ass game for less than 5 dollars and not full price, I thought it looked cool

[acoustic seal]

stingers vs flares are the absolute last of this game's balance problems lmfao

[abstract night]

PC player, I demand you return the game

[acoustic seal]

vehicles in general have it shittier than ever with lis giving infinite tv missiles on infantry

[arctic grove]

Like cod fucking sucks they removed ground war, the finals fucking sucks with the light class being OP and still not fixed since release, war thunder and world of tanks are fucking pay to win garbage trying to make player pay thousands just to progress, planetside 2 is dead and plagued by clans, I just want a cool vehicle/infantry game that isn't for chronically online people in clans and isn't just straight up completely busted

[abstract night]

Facts

[vital quail]

Try single player games

[arctic grove]

I would but i played more than 2 hours so it's fucked, i only paid 5 dollars so it's okay 😤

[abstract night]

Damnnnnnn yeah it’s all good

[arctic grove]

I would rather they nerfed liz and fixed the vehicles than this tbh

[abstract night]

Honestly out of every game you mentioned war thunder is actually somewhat decent though it really depends

[arctic grove]

liz isnt even fun to play because it's either you one shot something or the missile is sluggish AF, like battlefront 2 vehicles feel

[vocal tusk]

Remove Lis and the RAM = A better game for everyone

[arctic grove]

sorry for the crash out I'm calm now

[abstract night]

MW22 was the last decent CoD out of the last few entries cause its ground war wasn’t totally garbage and… I’m going to say it, it lowered the skill ceiling which was what made it fun cause I didn’t feel drained after 2 matches

[ashen wolf]

Skill issue there 🙃 use the gadget from the sniper class to lock all rpg's m5's, AA whatever onto the vehicle, so other players just need to shoot

[abstract night]

I mean it helped campers quite a bit but it was really give or take with the matches anyways

[ashen wolf]

Works literally every time

[vital quail]

Yesterday I saw a lis chasing a nightbird while a tank drove right past them

Perfect example of why I hate lis players

[arctic grove]

the fact "skill issue" has entered the common gamer language is sad tbh

[ashen wolf]

Uhm she can't one shot a vehicle

[abstract night]

It has irreversibly destroyed discourse

[misty pewter]

used to shout it from the top of the moutains but nobody could hear

Casuals Ruin everything

[arctic grove]

you should see elden ring players when you dare mention a specific boss being basically just attack spam machine "skill issue this skill issue that"

god forbid video games were created for fun and not to prove something

[misty pewter]

its the mlg paradox

everybody wants to feel like a major league gamer but nobody wants to work for it

[arctic grove]

the only good thing "mlg" has brought is funny edits on youtube lol

[abstract night]

Minmax completionist culture is so exhausting I never understood it

[misty pewter]

so we end up with .... THIS

[abstract night]

This includes the ENTIRETY of “skill gap” or “movement tech” discourse

[misty pewter]

I giggle at the phrase movement tech

[ashen wolf]

Lol we talked about rpgs ans stuff and now its elden ring and that i said skill issue? Whats about the fact with the sniper gadget lol seems like yall never tried it

[misty pewter]

bunny hopping was accidental the result of some physics mishandling lol

it just so happened to be fun

I guess mishanding it wrong more like limitations of early 3d engines

but then people got good at this random thing they discovered they can do

which is how cavemen invented sports

[arctic grove]

yeah i bought an fps game to just go birdwatching with an 80s reusable camera while laying on the ground lmao

while someone else actually does the shooting

that's fun in a squad context with your friends, but playing solos it isnt it

[abstract night]

And then the newest form of this, slide cancelling, came about the same way

I can deal with bunny hopping but slide cancel… Jesus

[arctic grove]

It's so funny when people start drawing those "skill gap" diagrams explaining which mechanics reduce or increase it and why it's bad for the game or not and I'm "bruh I'm just here to play the game and have fun"

[abstract night]

Dude literally wtf lmao

[misty pewter]

fun is banned

no fun allowed

[arctic grove]

fun detected

activating protocol "sk1ll 1ssu3"

[misty pewter]

pbban archimonk 'fun' 365d

[abstract night]

[misty pewter]

F is for fire that burns down the Whole Town , U is for Uranium Bombs, N is for No survivors

the problem with fun based gamers is fun generally requires you don't get a impromptdu colonscopy by the other team which requires you to have some skill

but you aren't here for the skill you are here for the fun but you can't have one without the other

contrary to popular belief its pretty hard to have fun at a game you are utter trash at

[chilly jacinth]

The several people sitting back in spawn doing nothing proves that to be a lie

[sudden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/reactions-gif-12900002073893207744

[dawn cedar]

depends on the game. like i taught one of my friends who was brand new to bf4 how to strap c4 on an ATV and ram it into tanks

and he had an absolute blast doing that all game

[misty pewter]

yes but was it effective?

[dawn cedar]

doesnt matter?

they had fun

[misty pewter]

yes it does

does your fun ruin somebody elses experience then yes it does

does you fun improve somebody eleses experience then yes

[chilly jacinth]

Bro my experience gets ruined every day by helis in this game

it is what it is really

[misty pewter]

I am sure cheaters are having a ball

[dawn cedar]

the most you can "ruin somebody elses experience" is make them stare at a grey screen for a few seconds, the horror

[misty pewter]

hrmm

so maby everybody that sucks should just cheat instend

thats a noval concept

[dawn cedar]

mate, you said you cant have fun, i give an example and then you turn to whataboutism

i dont understand you

[misty pewter]

welcome to gaming in 2025

[dawn cedar]

welcome to the blocklist ig

[misty pewter]

you missed the point there is a FINE line that seperates your concept of fun and everybody elses

[vital quail]

Doing this is infinitely better than being a recon at least

[misty pewter]

and expecting everybody to come down to your level is more toxic then people expecting you to rise

thats the point

tldr get good or get gone

or at least get not bad

[dawn cedar]

at the end of the day, battlefield is a sandbox shooter, and people can do what they want (except cheat for mr. strawman here)

[fast yoke]

Is the game dead ? And what server do you play on ?

[misty pewter]

expectation to succeed vs accepting failure which do you think is all around better

[vital quail]

I play NA at the most dead times and usually find games

[fast yoke]

I have difficulties finding games and most of them have AIs

[vital quail]

Conquest and breakthrough should always have people, especially during daytime

[misty pewter]

getting a rectal exam because your teammates can't figure out which end of the gun is the bangy end while t hey are amusing them selves crashing jeeps off cliffs is more toxic then mgl 3.0kdr kid screaming at his team to point there weapons at the enemy

being objectively stupid is never justifiable fun or not

you know whats more fun the Jeep stuff ?

using jeept stuff and having it be effective

[fast yoke]

I play day and night in conquest, but I feel like it shouldn't take 2 minutes to find a game with AI

64 players

[chilly jacinth]

Legitsu are you crashing out or something

[misty pewter]

completely rekt the enemys ablity to deploy armor because you are Max Verstappen with a c4 vest on

naa just making a point to people that probly aren't capable of understanding it

but my better nature compells me to try

[fast yoke]

And now I'm waiting in a game to fill 16 players

[arctic grove]

wait 2042 has AI in games other than solo ?

[fast yoke]

Yes

@arctic groveAdd me I will show you

[sudden thunder]

@misty pewter you can state your point but don’t try to prove it and push it on people 😉😉

[twilit elbow]

Anyone in OCE region looking to run some tonight?? Dm me if keen

[arctic grove]

another problem, tryharding wouldn't be that big of a deal if the progression systems for unlocks in most games nowadays didn't require you to tryhard just to unlock basic gameplay elements

[visual mantle]

has anyone gone past the secureboot bs ?

[arctic grove]

the problem is companies have every incentive to not do that to then sell passes or bundles that contain said progression elements to "skip the grind"

[visual mantle]

i can't play it anymore

[arctic grove]

you need to enable it in your manufacturer's bios then restart, there should be guides somewhere online

[visual mantle]

okayy

finally i'm out

it's was nice knowing you all

[wispy blaze]

Maybe don't use dinosaur hardware

[vital quail]

I missed some fun stuff apparently

[wispy blaze]

"trying to fight for your rights" LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[remote kiln]

👍

[stone cradle]

just put the fries in the bag bro

[zealous loom]

I lost about 7 braincells reading allat

It ain't that deep

[ripe chasm]

man for real

[rocky gust]

lol wtf was the msg

[vital quail]

something about being mad about secure boot

[indigo ruin]

I’m mad about secure boot

[vital quail]

they were wanting to do like legal action against EA level of mad

[indigo ruin]

Oh I saw that tweet

Crazy mofo

[rocky gust]

i mean EA is just extremely outperforming when it comes to creating horrible user experience

[waxen heath]

why do vault weapons have to have less attachments :(

also why do i always see the same robot characters and red + black ram

[visual mantle]

dinosaur hardware? bruh i got this pc in 2023

i don't mind fiddeling around with the BIOS but why all of a sudden they are implenting secure boot requirements?

you know people also have dual boot systems right?

also player counts have significantly dropped

[misty pewter]

shhh nobody cares about linux lusers /S

the I googled that kids get upset when you try and explain how worthless UEFI Secure boot is

[visual mantle]

idk man, 2042 is getting review bombed on steam AGAIN, every review is pissed about the secure boot

player count dropped form around 7-8k to now hovering around 3k

and dropping

[misty pewter]

dedgame is ded

they got mortal kombated FINISH HIM

[visual mantle]

i mean i could find full servers on portal so idk about it being dead

but shitty move from EA

[misty pewter]

*Not if nobody can play

muwahahahhaahhaah

[visual mantle]

yes thats true

[misty pewter]

tinfoil hat theroy this is EAs way of dropping the player counts enough where they can justify shutting the servers down

[visual mantle]

like it was anywhere near Bf 1

[waxen latch]

is this entire secureboot thing the reason why my game keeps closing itself lol w/o a crash code

[next onyx]

Butter toast

[arctic grove]

Not sure if im having the fault on my end but is it just me or 2042 is sort of unplayable on pc with the frequent frame drops?

[merry heart]

Vegemite toast

[abstract night]

I mean

The game has no server browser where it actually matters so as soon as the next game releases 2042 is doomed anyways

[vital quail]

if 2042 is requiring secure boot then the next game will too

[small kindle]

and it's still full of hackers so

[wispy blaze]

Havent seen a single cheater in 2042

then again, im all the way in the sky in my helicopter and jet

[small kindle]

yeah na thats cap

[abstract night]

I don’t even know why anyone would hack in 2042. nothing to play for

[wispy blaze]

idk, just never seen one

seen a few on BF1 and BFV

but that was awhile ago

[waxen latch]

game launches, i try and load into a match and it closes, no crash reports

😢

[zealous loom]

Are the LMGs worth using? I've never actually used them yet in 2042 surprisingly

[sour isle]

DFR Strife is good.

[wide shore]

Avancys, LCMG, RPT. Hell, they’re all good if you use them right. PKP is great if you make use of the bipod.

[burnt halo]

LCMG spread is the only thing keeping it from dominating over the other LMGs tbh

spread feels comparable to the smgs

only reason i don't run it

[placid echo]

I love me VCAR
-# ignore the Deltarune in the background, was also watching a friend play it on the side in a discord call lol

[autumn igloo]

ok so third day playing first impressions

i love LMGs. love love love. the avancy feels like a laser beam and its fantastic.

only have 3 AR's but so far the RM68(?) feels really good

what should i try next

[vital quail]

pp29

[quiet sonnet]

Same

[sour isle]

oh

[acoustic seal]

i've seen like 3-4, but this was 2+ years ago and they were really blatant 80+% hsr machines

[rain violet]

The stat tracker gives away a good majority of them because of that, usually really low accuracy but high headshot rate because they just prefire with walls up.

[outer kindle]

Man, I hate this game so much but I can't stop playing

[sweet olive]

sounds unironically a fate worse than death

[visual mantle]

I was looking forward to bf 6

But these secure boot crap showed me the way

[acoustic seal]

they were gonna do something like this eventually to support the battle royale, whenever that's releasing

they just did it in the most baffling, half-assed way possible

[rocky gust]

The greatest company to ever grace the planet

[arctic grove]

great how they managed to break the friends menu at the same time so now i cant join off others

[rocky gust]

aren't they just the best LMAO

[chilly jacinth]

Friends menu has been broken off and on since beta

[gilded lava]

Couldn't agree more

[young jewel]

it's an urban myth 😂

[remote kiln]

the games had issues with connecting via EA link since release, verify your game files which will cause the script to relink which should fix the problem (temporarily)

also make sure you've got the latest EA app version via winget upgrade and see if there's a new version number

[quiet sonnet]

You can farm statistics on AI in AI farm servers

So its not very telling

[remote kiln]

human KDR is separate, is very easy to tell who's using bots to farm stats cause of it

[gilded lava]

Why would you farm stats

[quiet sonnet]

Yeah but you dont see human kdr from leaderboards if you look up specific boards

Majority on top leaderboards play against just ai

[chilly jacinth]

That's where you click on their name and see their full stats

[rocky gust]

lmao i don't get those people

[gilded lava]

Attention whores that's all

[azure basalt]

ello dice fix the friend list pls

[gilded lava]

And anticheat

[rotund ridge]

Has it stopped banning random people?

[solar scaffold]

Can someone play bf 2042?

[young jewel]

one word Yes

[gilded lava]

idk but I can't launch the game because the anticheat doesn't want to work

[rain violet]

It's certainly not the only tell, but you can also see AI kills at least. I usually combine it with in game performance since you'll see awful mechanical skill and poor positioning but quick kills and too much awareness.

[quiet sonnet]

Ye you can

A lot of people hackusate me on wallhacking on a daily basis

So most people just hackusate just cuz

[rotund ridge]

secure boot issue?
My issue was being banned lol
Took weeks to get it over turned.
They really don't know what they are doing.

[autumn igloo]

uhm. i’m new and just like playing vs the ai 😭

[visual mantle]

battle royale??!!

[tranquil turtle]

It's gonna be a knock off of warzone

[young jewel]

only AI? I've been running it since I play 2042 the only game mode where I can actually chill after work get a triple digit's 💀 where at least survival skill's are enough I ain't got enough in me to get destroyed in multiplayer I get that frustration enough while working in hell

[autumn igloo]

VALIDDD

yeah only ai so far but i’ve only had the game for 3 days

maybe have 5 hours or something similar

[gilded lava]

No not that
I already enabled that for valorant

[misty ether]

Who needs AI when crossplay has enabled PC to farm all of the conslowers?

[spare pine]

Just a little warning for you guys.

Don't update your AMD drivers to 25.6.1 if on a 6000 series card.

They still haven't fixed the downed state crashing since the bug was introduced around 25.5.1.

Stick to Adrenaline 25.3.1 until AMD decides to stop being lazy.

[misty ether]

Nvidia is lazy as well.

Just look at the 5060.

[spare pine]

so true

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

We've all got that one squad mate... 🪖

🎬 u/Robsta_20

🎬1 · Jun 5, 2025, 3:02 PM

▻

[quiet sonnet]

Far too late for this

[spare pine]

25.6.1 just released today..?

[quiet sonnet]

Oh nvm then i had crashes with previous updates too

[spare pine]

Thats why im telling people to roll back to 25.3.1 (at the very least this specific issue is fixed)

Gotta use DDU tho.

[quiet sonnet]

Ye cba for 2042 ngl

Worthless game anyway

[spare pine]

Beats playing the same game for 6 years straight

[quiet sonnet]

Idk id rather play tetris for 12 years straight than play another round of stadium in 2042 atp

[spare pine]

suit yaselfffffffffff

[naive ember]

Someone got destroyed in stadium

[quiet sonnet]

no the map is just garbage

[misty ether]

Remember.

BF is a point and click adventure game.

[pine roost]

So true

[autumn igloo]

me who hasn’t played an fps in years 💀

[misty ether]

Did you lose an arm or something?

Average KD in BF is like .6.

Just pick and click

They die.

Number go up

Dopamine

Rinse and repeat.

[pine roost]

help team

happi

[misty ether]

Team no hate you

Good feels

Close game

Do again tomorrow

[quiet sonnet]

Play 1 game trigger some playstation ai alt f4 and enjoy the rest of the day

[misty ether]

:bedge:

[night raven]

Ay so

When you hack an aircraft. What does it nean when it says "Avionics didabled"?

Is it just harder for the pilit to drive? Does the vehivke just shut off completely?

[remote kiln]

the vehicle doesn't shut off completely no, it just makes it a bit harder to steer/aim

[night raven]

Aw dang

What about turrets disabled?

[chilly jacinth]

Slows turrets traversal

[vital quail]

Can't turn as easily when disabled

[vocal tusk]

I preferred the disabled state in 4 and old 2042, where it was a mobility disable

[vital quail]

The engine and track ones can fully disable movement but it feels like it only happens when im the one driving

[chilly jacinth]

You can just hit auto repair to negate it immediately

same with getting hacked

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, instant auto repair should go in the trash can. they way repair worked in V was perfect

[vital quail]

I see a lot more aps than repair loadouts

[vocal tusk]

Its too good not to use

But APS in 2042 was a band aid

[vital quail]

The ram is the most annoying since its weak spots are buggy

[vocal tusk]

And its a "can attack everything" vehicle

[vital quail]

They should've also removed the front armor of the wildcat when they gave it aps imo

[vocal tusk]

Or just not given it APS

Problem solved

[vital quail]

That too

[vocal tusk]

Remove its AT capabilities, but then give it APS. So many changes to vehicles in 2042 to counter Lis basically.

[night raven]

Ngl

Disrupting kinda feels pointless since all it really does is just slow vehicles down...

[vocal tusk]

And disables their APS

or countermeasures

[vital quail]

The draugr is hurt by it more but im not going to be rao looking up in the sky trying to find it all match

[chilly jacinth]

I can see them flying in invis most of the time

Somehow others don't though evidenced by my team getting spawned rushed every game

[vocal tusk]

I still laugh at pilots who try to climb high in the sky to avoid stingers

[night raven]

I definitely know wtf y'all are talking about lol

[naive ember]

No you don't

[misty pewter]

class / vehicle roles should be strictly defined

No your MBT does not ned 3 LMGS

no your apc should not be-able to go toe to toe with a mbt

No your stinger should not have ANY Ground lock capability's

No to all

[tulip grove]

It's a killer on tracked vehicles. If aps is down it'll open them to being slammed by rpgs without them being able to get back into cover.

[night raven]

Ohhhh wait... is the APS like the thermal smoke that usually prevrnts lock or something?

[misty pewter]

the difficulty is balancing the game around idiots

[tulip grove]

No, it's the countermeasure that shoots down most explosives.

[misty pewter]

the issue is people SUCK if everybody used all 9.63% of there brains then balencing would be a cake walk

[night raven]

I used to try to use the Sflam goggle things after I hack. But i gave up since it didnxt seem like anyone was tryna take em down

[misty pewter]

but no you need to consider cases where jonny thumb sucker doesn't SHOOT AT THE ENEMY

[night raven]

Wha?

[misty pewter]

Or braindead drivers driving there tank into 6 full squads of engineers and wondering why they get instantly vaporised

the way it should be is lolskillfloor if you do something dumb you die

but no we gotta pander to casauls too and that screws up everything

which is how we ended up with the mess that is 2042

[night raven]

I usually drive differently depending on who's in the tank with me lol. If the gunners are actually kinda good, I slowly breach my way into them. If they suck, I'd usually find a safe distance with decent cover that still gives my gunners good views.

[tulip grove]

This is why I need some flexibility.

Sometimes I gotta solo backcap because my team doesn't know how to flank.

[misty pewter]

but you go to far in either direction trying to compensate for bad players being bad by making it easier

and all you get is hot garbage

[tulip grove]

You gotta play with friends to make it work. Randos aren't going to take advantage of your support for the most part.

[misty pewter]

I want the old merrit system back where if you suck to hard doing X thing you are no longer allowed todo the X thing

[night raven]

Driving tanks and jets are hard af ;-;

Cause eveyone targets you since your a whole ass tank. Ya know? It's hard trying to maneuver your way to safety and cover lol

[tulip grove]

People aren't going to learn that way.

[misty pewter]

example your Tank proficiency rating is 32 the minium required to operate the tank is 28 IF there is somebody in t he server with a rating elss then 28 they dont get to drive the tank unless there NOBODY with a greater rating avaiable

[burnt halo]

tanks aren't too difficult to learn, but the skill ceiling for jets is insanely high

[misty pewter]

OR X time without somebody using the tank has passed

[night raven]

I don't even touch the jets. Cause holy shit the pilots are a whole other level. I have no clue how to even get them off my ass-

[misty pewter]

this would prevent muppets from trashing team assets by being muppets and force them into a role they are better at

[chilly jacinth]

This is some wack shit

[misty pewter]

so if you suck all match with the tank and it never leaves spawn and you get no team assists or kills then you dont get to drive the tank anymore

same for helis jets any major team asset

[tulip grove]

You can spare with me and I can teach you.

[chilly jacinth]

You're basically asking for some sort of SBMM

just a different way

[misty pewter]

sbmm is good

properly implmented anyway

[night raven]

Honestly... I'd actually be kinda down for that.

[misty pewter]

no I am asking for people to at least have there learners permit before being turned loose with a major team asset that makes or breaks games

[chilly jacinth]

Doesn't exist

[misty pewter]

everybody every day will start with the same rating your performace dictates your ablity to keep using said asset

after 24h it resets

[night raven]

Ngl that's way too much effort for something like that

[misty pewter]

sliding scale to keep it fair everybody gets a chance to prove they aren't a liablity but the ones that are get there boombooms taken away

[tulip grove]

Because of the rocket spam, I feel like tanks are harder to be in the than jets.

[misty pewter]

I am not implying you need a 25 tank kills to keep using it but you should be prevented from using a tank or apc or any team asset if you are objectively shit with it

obviously this would take some tuning

[burnt halo]

personally i don't really like playing in a vehicle, much prefer infrantry play

[night raven]

I nean it sucks yeah. People can be shit at times. But they just tryna have good time. Why take these things away from them when they're just tryna enjoy the game like the rest of us?

[misty pewter]

because fun must be earned

[night raven]

W h a t

[misty pewter]

put in the work or at least make the effort to not ruin everybody elses

because your personal fun should not come at the expense of others

thats just bad manners

nobody likes getting pasted because you are being a giggling idiot driving the tank off the top of a building going weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[tulip grove]

If you're terrible with it then you're gonna die and you'll have a sweat like me take the asset anyways.

[misty ether]

You should go back to the spawn screen NOW.

[night raven]

Bro naw. We just need better match making. Put people with other people with similar skill levels. And it's even for all. No need to punish those who just happen to suck

[misty pewter]

no to many variables for that

just a light brushing of skill check to keep the brainlets out of the way

or at least minimise the harm they cause

[night raven]

You yreat this like this is some kind of $5000 tourney match or something.

[misty pewter]

could be worst could go back to how we used todo it

be a idiot with the tank or heli get banned from the server

this is how we used to enforce it in bf2

[tulip grove]

Dude I am that skill check. Kill or be killed.

[night raven]

I mean in the end. It's just a game bro. If we lose. We lose. We don't even get punished for losing really.

[misty pewter]

yes but you can have your cake and eat it

it doesn't need to actively suck

[tulip grove]

No need to overcomplicate the game because of some n00bs

[misty pewter]

thats what I am concerned with if you are bad you will get better

if you actively are just bleh then you need to go sit in the corner with a dunce cap on

[wispy blaze]

"why isnt this server filling up"

[misty pewter]

there MUST be some incentive for that or you get brainlet soup

[night raven]

That's the thing there though. You're adding all these ideas that PUNISH people for being bad by restricting them from using these things. If they can't use these things, how do they get better in the first place?

[misty pewter]

yes because such a system would not account for empty servers variable player populations... totally didn't think of that thank you captain obvious

[tulip grove]

They gotta git gud or they'll die to me and my friends.

[misty pewter]

the battlefield community ladies and gents IQ of roomtemp at the south pole

[tulip grove]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-good-garfield-hey-good-looking-hey-handsome-looking-in-the-mirror-gif-20294451

[zealous loom]

I won't argue with that but your second point:

properly implemented

Is not possible, it has not yet been done by anyone. There is always some way if affects skilled players in some way. Give bad players a protected bracket (bottom 5%) and let the rest be organic.

SBMM is the single worst thing in modern gaming as it stands now

[misty pewter]

yes because punish a entire team of 32 because 6 people 0 and 23

[night raven]

All these ideas are WAYYY too competitive man...

[misty pewter]

No I just expect a bare minium of a iq greater then 73 lol

if you cant manage that honestly dont play

[wispy blaze]

casuals playing a casual game? no way

[misty pewter]

go play something more your skil bracket like fortnight

[tulip grove]

If you're that worried, just be the carry.

[misty pewter]

there is causals then there is forthing morons

[night raven]

Bro people play this game because they wanna be a bad ass soldier that's blows up high tech tank shit. Not because they wanna be graded on how shit they are for not immediately killing like 6 people

[acoustic seal]

what's the temporary gamemode where you have to earn score to spawn vehicles? more of that and put it in the base game please

[night raven]

See that works

[tulip grove]

Control

[misty pewter]

and you should half to earn that feeling not have it handed to you

thats is the entire point

when you gift everybody the feeling of being a bad ass it turns everybody into frothing morons

because nobody has to work for anything

[wispy blaze]

lol

[night raven]

Bro what!? Dude what's the point of buying an army game if you have to prove that you can play it?

[misty pewter]

and I use the term work loosely because its really not that hard

[wispy blaze]

So you want some sort of MMR system?

[misty pewter]

I am asking for everybody to step back and put in the bare minium effort to not be a total fawkwitt

I am not asking for you to summon your inner fata1ity

[wispy blaze]

yea idk what that even means

[remote kiln]

yeah cause SBMM/ELO matchmaking definitely? impacts anything like that

which, it doesnt

[tulip grove]

I would love competitive 32v32 but it has to be player organized.

[misty pewter]

I am not expecting you to play like its MGL pro season and theres 3 million on the line

[remote kiln]

yeah youre asking for those who are bad at the game and dont know how to do teamwork, to keep being bad and not do teamwork lol

they already get pooled off up to level 25

[night raven]

Look. I awear I mean no offense dude but you literally came up with a WHOLE SYSTEM meant to punish people for not being good enough.

[misty pewter]

I don't see a problem with that

[wispy blaze]

how to kill your game 101

[night raven]

Yeah

[wispy blaze]

imagine you inv your friend to play, but gets kicked for going 0-6

[misty pewter]

there should be some consequence for you being garbage because apperently bottom of the score board isn't enough anymore

so I guess we are down to removing your ablity to have 'fun'

[remote kiln]

"i dont see a problem with bad players being stuck being bad"

[zealous loom]

what am i reading

[tulip grove]

Don't forget to add me

[night raven]

People arenxt going to play a game that tells them they're dog shit basically. We already live hard enough lives. Like I said. We wanna be abd ass soldiers. Not graded on how shit we are.

[misty pewter]

theres pro good casual bad and just human refuse

that last one is the major issue

[remote kiln]

this sort of analogy is exactly why there should not be any sort of MMR/SBMM matchmaking in this franchise

[tulip grove]

Chaos. Lol...

[remote kiln]

its an elitest, boring argument

[night raven]

What's an elitest?

[misty pewter]

don't be absoutely worthless and the gatekeper wont need to gatekeep

[wispy blaze]

someone who thinks they're better than everyone else

[remote kiln]

those who are too lazy or dont give a shit about bad players wanting to play amongst themselves and ignore everyone else

[misty pewter]

but you aren't not playing among your selves

you are on my team

[remote kiln]

bro

[tulip grove]

(Like me) 😜

[remote kiln]

thats what skill based matchmaking is

?

[misty pewter]

which is why sbmm pwns ?

[night raven]

You want people to play by your standards dude

[misty pewter]

more sbmm more systems in place to keep the trash players in the garbage heap where they belong /s

[remote kiln]

💀

[zealous loom]

Glazing SBMM in 2025 is crazy

[misty pewter]

well stop being objectively actively aweful

[acoustic seal]

catering to the absolute lowest common denominator is how you get no mechanics, positioning-only gameplay like bf1

[remote kiln]

i automatically assume anyone wanting an MMR/SBMM system in this game to lock out the "bad" players are actually bad themselves

[zealous loom]

99% of people who like SBMM are ass

[zealous loom]

Read my mind

[wispy blaze]

SBMM in battlefield isn't a good idea

[misty pewter]

its a great idea

[night raven]

Sorry you gptta dumb it down for me lol

[misty pewter]

it means you deco and ever other brainlet wont play it and that means I win

😄

[remote kiln]

whats your ign name

[misty pewter]

thats for me to know and you to be mad that I wont tell you

inb4 hurrdurr your bad

[zealous loom]

CoD has it maybe you should play that

[remote kiln]

but stats are public

so go on

[misty ether]

Whatever stats he does have, if it’s over a 1KDR, 500SPM and 2KPM, he’s already better than 99% of BF players.

[remote kiln]

if he wants to make a personal claim hes better than others he gotta back it up

[tulip grove]

Maybe @misty pewter should post his before he goes after everyone else.

[misty ether]

That’s fair.

[misty pewter]

no I don't need to back it up

[night raven]

I know it's kind of an insult. And again I mean no offense by this. But CoD might actually be the soltion for his beliefs in this game. No tanks. No need for extreme teamwork. Heavy rank systems and shit

[misty pewter]

if you don't want to work for it

why should tell you

[wispy blaze]

nice bait

[misty pewter]

well stop being dense

[night raven]

At this point it might actually be bait

Yeah

[zealous loom]

It would be SBMM heaven for him, just what he needs

[wispy blaze]

most likely

[remote kiln]

sounds like bait

[tulip grove]

Hey y'all... squad up or nah?

[night raven]

Well in that case. I guess he a rge baiter then. Who's the dude who was willing to teach me how to fly lol

[wispy blaze]

flying is ez in 2042

[misty pewter]

all I asked for was minimum viable players on my team round up the people that are 0 and 20 and keep em out of the way

[night raven]

It is. HOWEVER. I have no clue how to get someone off my ass lol

[misty pewter]

but yall wanna cry about sbmm and that you are entitled to have fun at everybody elses expense

[tulip grove]

Me

[misty pewter]

but you don't even know which is the pointy end

[wispy blaze]

"why isnt this server filling up"

[misty ether]

If you are all going to cry, why don’t you all redeploy yourselves now?!

[misty pewter]

redeploy deeze nuts

[night raven]

You able to play now? Is 42 crossplay?

[zealous loom]

It's crazy you wont post ur stats tho

[wispy blaze]

since launch iirc

[night raven]

Okay good lol

[misty ether]

You want to willingly play 2042?

Psychotic.

[night raven]

That's actually a good point lmao

[wispy blaze]

only "modern" battlefield that's still populated

[night raven]

Hear me out. Bomb plane go big boom lol

[wispy blaze]

BFV and BF1 are fun but no helicopters🫠

[misty pewter]

this video sum up the current status of battlefield players https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9z9FcCRj3s

[night raven]

Okay but can you show us YOUR stats?

[misty pewter]

could

wont

[night raven]

Why?

[misty ether]

You mean not filled with good players? I’d rather sit through the racist spregout fest that is BF4.

[tulip grove]

Yup just look up "RAM_ChairForce" on the ingame social tab.

[wispy blaze]

he's 100% the admin that would kick anyone that kills him

[misty pewter]

because I have nothing to prove and it will drive you batty

[tulip grove]

I know right?!? Lol

[remote kiln]

he wont cause he privated them lol

i found it

[misty pewter]

I can promise you you didn't

[wispy blaze]

i like bf4, but barely any full servers outside of Lockers 24/7

[misty pewter]

because I don't play 2042

[misty ether]

You can check my stats all day, you won’t be impressed besides what I use.

[misty pewter]

lol

[remote kiln]

Legitsu@FuruPOWA quite the old nickname

[obsidian tide]

Hello again. AMD 25.6.1 WHQL drivers are here. No mention of known issues with Frostbite Engine games in it, whether ongoing or fixed.

Will test later.

[misty ether]

Well, as the banned resident of NA servers, you have to look to EU for non-Locker experiences.

[night raven]

Then that's just dpuble standards there. You epxect us to cater to your standards. But here you are hiding your stats from us to prevent us from seeing if your even worth working with

[remote kiln]

they are in the known issues on the driver list, so not fixed

[misty ether]

That being said I love the reaction you can farm on Locker and Metro.

[wispy blaze]

rollback to the previous WHQL

[misty ether]

I’m so glad that BF1 crashes for me now.

[obsidian tide]

https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-25-6-1.html
This page did not have them in skimming.

[remote kiln]

yeah they shadow removed it apparently

its still there if youre wondering (unresolved)

[obsidian tide]

Hm.

[remote kiln]

had a user test it out of curiosity

[night raven]

Weird question. But how'd y'all get your names?

Like what's the story behind them?

[acoustic seal]

@misty pewter you got it backwards btw, sbmm removes incentive to get better because your reward for doing so is more punishing matches

[night raven]

OH HEY IT'S YOU

I remember you!

[zealous loom]

Found it - 1.14kd

[remote kiln]

thats what he wants

[obsidian tide]

Very well. Time to see how it is broken compared to 25.5.1.

[acoustic seal]

oh well shit case closed

[night raven]

Dang

[remote kiln]

🤣

[acoustic seal]

wha

[obsidian tide]

Did any of you manage to resolve individual user reports of Secure Boot Mandate compatibility failure while I was away?

[night raven]

Naw I was just saying I remember you lol. I forogt what our last convo was about tho

[acoustic seal]

i'm just here to deliver the eulogy for the franchise when bf2025 is ass too

vince zampella gets exposed as a fraud and we mourn dice a little then go home

[wispy blaze]

[night raven]

[night raven]

Who vince?

[acoustic seal]

the guy that got pulled in to be game director

spent the last 15 years rehashing old cod titles

and yes, i mean titanfall too, advanced warfare is right there for comparison

[misty ether]

You know what is also unresolved? ||2042’s input problems||

Also, these issues are more pronounced the lower your sense is.

Good job, DICE.

And a hush fell over the crowd.

[acoustic seal]

mouse feel is just not something you can explain to people, bf players have been selectively bred for having zero hand-eye coordination

[dapper river]

Right, right.. titanfall stole advanced warfare's idea, right?

[misty ether]

True. That’s why this server operates at 19C

[wispy blaze]

bad mouse input….idk how to explain it. It just feels bad

[remote kiln]

theres a bug with this game where input becomes artificially delayed, it's not just you

happens on kbm and controller

[misty pewter]

crap anticheat injecting calls into the input handler

[zealous loom]

Might just be me but I seldomly see cheaters in 2042, can't even recall 1

Last cheaters I saw in BF was in BFV before the anticheat update

[wispy blaze]

[misty ether]

Coward

[misty pewter]

I'm not sure if I should respond I kind of feel bad now who talks about their own mother like that

[zealous loom]

Do you think before you send messages

[misty ether]

You can cope with BPD, schizophrenia and whiplash all in 12 hours?

[wispy blaze]

Zoomers don’t

[misty pewter]

Clearly you've never heard the saying grippy socks grippy box

[misty ether]

Relax, bizzaro Hasan

[misty pewter]

To catch a gilf

[misty ether]

Alex Trebeck would like to have a word with you.

[misty pewter]

ill take Hotmoms for 800 Alex

[misty ether]

“Low Standards and Miami Summer”

[zealous loom]

Gonna try the LCMG in a bit, what attachments should i run

[misty pewter]

hrmm thats a tough one

[teal pelican]

Bipod + 2.5x

Gg

[rain violet]

Bipod

[misty pewter]

for your knife

[quiet sonnet]

Never seen a cheater in that game

[obsidian tide]

Most chose not to develop software targeting it due to lack of market interest.

[misty pewter]

daFAWK

[smoky willow]

My bad had to get that off my chest

[misty pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-banned-banned-ban-ban-him-ban-hammer-gif-3899611162483726731

[smoky willow]

Chat I think I'm cooked

[obsidian tide]

Lyric search pulls up "Good Lookin'" by Dixon Dallas.

[smoky willow]

Fire song

[obsidian tide]

Song as copypasta or some other nonsense post.

[sour isle]

what did he post

[obsidian tide]

Lyrics to an inappropriate song.

[frigid coral]

Verified game files, up to date ea app. Still can't join friends on pc. From pc I can join on console players and from my console I can join anyone. What is the deal? is this normal for this to be happening for 10 straight days? I have only been playing 2042 for about 4 months. There has been this issue prior to this but it was for only 1 or 2 days.

[misty pewter]

reboot router?

could be a upnp / port not releasing

or a bad routing from your isp

change mac address on router and power cycle modem

[frigid coral]

It's not just me... every one of my friends on PC have the same issue.

[misty pewter]

should force a new ip if you are on cable

no idea then

[frigid coral]

I have just been playing on PSN to act as an anchor so we can join each other haha which sucks because I prefer pc.

[obsidian tide]

Weird issue, but what methods were tried to mitigate it, so far?

[frigid coral]

A few lines up is what I did.

[misty pewter]

rtss should work if properly configured

did you disable mpo or something

[obsidian tide]

Uninstalling the EA App fully, then reinstalling it also failed?

[frigid coral]

I haven't tried that yet.

Shouldn't have to do that though.

[obsidian tide]

The App Recovery feature of the EA App is a soft form of that.

Use it and report back.

[pearl mesa]

PC has been experiencing that issue since the update at the end of may, not sure if its BF or EA. Can't join friends at all unless they're on console or invite you directly.

[frigid coral]

Ok I'll try that

[obsidian tide]

Interesting.

[chilly jacinth]

Fairly sure the broken friends list is on EAs side

Has been like that since beta

[arctic grove]

its been since update a couple of weeks ago, so fucking annoying

[arctic grove]

ok so apparently if your system doesnt support secure boot you can still play without

confirmed on fx

very important information for all my low spec 2042 homies

[chilly jacinth]

Yes they even said as much

[lament dagger]

Anyone tryna run?

[obsidian tide]

If EA Anticheat believes the drive is too old, or lacking certain features, it will not flag the device as needing to enable it.

Where the issue lies is when it detects hardware that can support it, but that hardware or firmware is not configured in a way that it wants.

[arctic grove]

im glad about this cos i like seeing what old hardware i can overclock to play 1080p 60fps

and now i know i will be able to still play on my x58 xeon platform too

a very niche use case purely to satiate my curiousity but yeahhhhh

sidenote if ea wants anyone to test lowest specs for the new bf, hmu 😎😎🤣

[obsidian tide]

This was a CPU platform from 2008, but posts about reusing it for overclocking purposes are known to exist circa the mid to late 2010s, some 9 years after its release.

[arctic grove]

yep and the xeons have like 6 cores so can still do a decent job to about 80fps

bigger lobbies choke the older chips though

[obsidian tide]

The lowest specs BFLabs originally wanted, as dictated by a circulated image about its requirements some time ago, was a Intel Core i5-8400 or AMD Ryzen 5 2600. Coffee Lake and Zen+ architectures, from 2017 and 2018 respectively.

The Recommended CPUs from this image were a Intel Core i7-10700 and AMD Ryzen 7 3700X. Comet Lake and Zen 2 architectures, dating to 2020 and 2019 respectively.

[arctic grove]

minimum for 2042 is 6600k and 1050ti

1050 ti you can just about do 1080 60 if you oc the balls off it

older i7s with ht can play it fine with an oc

[obsidian tide]

Albeit with severe VRAM constraints and more. The game prefers at least 8GB in real-world usage, but would ideally like 10 or 12GB.

[arctic grove]

can do max textures with 8gb of vram card

4gb where it starts to get a bit howyagoin

but if its a decent older gpu like 980 itll get you by at older settings

[obsidian tide]

True, but some maps approach 7.9GB of usage under the right conditions, e.g. Flashpoint.

Also, I am now observing that shaders on guns and Specialists are loading in much faster than normally observed. Either this has to do with the new AMD driver version of 25.6.1, or I found another BitDefender setting that interferes with the game/generally, but not quite in a way that is enough to provoke the anticheat like the last one.

[silver flare]

I'm logging into the game. just as I find and enter the game, it gives an anti cheat warning and kicks me out of the game?

[vital quail]

[vocal tusk]

Nice scam

[obsidian tide]

What kind of warning?

[chilly jacinth]

outdated hwinfo it seems

per #battlefield-legacy-titles

[silver flare]

@obsidian tide ea atnticheat has detected an incompatible driver.please update or disable it. windows/ syswow64/drivers/hwinfo64a.sys

[obsidian tide]

Have you ever installed the HWiNFO utility before?

It will embed itself as a driver, apparently.

[silver flare]

no

what am I supposed to do?

[obsidian tide]

Can you find its location by searching in File Explorer? Or at least anywhere else it is referenced.

[silver flare]

I already found the file

[obsidian tide]

Okay, remove it.

I wanted to check for copies.

[chilly jacinth]

hwinfo must've been installed at some point cause it doesn't magically appear

[obsidian tide]

Or there is other software using it.

[silver flare]

unfortunately it can't be erased

[obsidian tide]

Other Diagnostic and Profiling software.

[obsidian tide]

Why?

TrustedInstaller permissions, or something else?

[arctic grove]

if hwinfo starts triggering anti cheat im efffed

[obsidian tide]

It already triggers issues on Windows 11, certainly for older software versions. Assuming an official installation, the Windows 11 OS will block its persistent drivers from loading under the right conditions due to security concerns.

Toggle them off under Driver Management settings within HWiNFO.

[chilly jacinth]

there's other stuff you can use for tracking that doesn't trigger it

[arctic grove]

good to know. im still on 10 so guess thats why i hadnt run into it

had defender pick up that ring 1 thingo from librehardware monitor tho

[remote kiln]

this is the key

hwinfo64 is just a utility, it's underlying hardware monitoring requires a driver, it's also used by 50 other pieces of software to be interoperable even if not explicitly installed, why it's important to keep software up to date

MSI afterburner etc etc

[obsidian tide]

BitDefender's Online Threat Protection feature is worse than I thought. On top of the Encrypted Web Scan subfeature seemingly interfering with anticheat solutions and certain VOIP solutions, there is another, even worse form of interference that is present here: The Search Advisor subfeature.

This one is intended to scan search results that are queried, to warn against suspect webpages before they are accessed. Maybe with a little icon next to the result; classic extension injection features like that. Except, this thing will apparently affect and hang embedded network resources...Like in games using CEF as part of UI and asset rendering. And network-replicated resources, like Battlefield 2042's textures and shaders. Even on the Main Menu, Classes, and Collection pages. As well as other games' map and asset loading.

After turning it off, the shaders have been observed loading in at higher quality/more fully than before, and at a much faster speed than before (on a 64MB cache HDD). Testing in a match will come eventually, but for now, that and proper VRAM usage and faster/more real-time management of it is being observed along with the reduced overhead.

Regardless of how this subfeature is inducing such insane overhead and background interference, this is a wild discovery.

[chilly jacinth]

Game shouldn't even be running on an HDD

[obsidian tide]

Oh well. It will likely be anyway if it was put on an alternate drive used purely to have many terabytes worth of space for storage, or was on certain default drives that prebuilds came with.

[crude heart]

ssd would be honestly a huge upgrade for u if ur games are on an hdd

[obsidian tide]

I am aware. For now, this will do.

As a not very related aside, there is also a school of thought among some people, which states that mandating an SSD in system requirements for a game is a crutch and cop-out by devs and publishers, to avoid putting effort into optimizing a game to be scalable for more systems. Similar in idea to treating upscalers with disdain for how they are now used in AAA titles.

[remote kiln]

it's not

"being scalable" doesn't mean anything when HDDs are limited to synchronous calls for I/O, they just suck

they have actively held back state management for loading resources in games, not the other way round, tools like DirectStorage (the non GPU decompression portion) resolve this, which is why they are built with heavy bandwidth in mind for the transfer blocks

[obsidian tide]

Unfortunately, users other than myself require some convincing of that. Then again, they are also the types to still believe ray tracing is a gimmick, with no purpose other than to have terrible performance compared to plain rasterization and force people to buy new GPUs and SSDs just to play games.

[remote kiln]

id advise that you do some reading on I/O streaming, it's not realistic, neither should you expect any sort of high I/O R/W task to be useful on a hard drive, they never have been

the only reason loading screens exist is due to HDDs, it's an antiquated piece of technology, not much to it

on the topic of RT it is not possible to have rasterised lighting which matches or even comes close to techniques like RTGI/PTX in terms of quality, prebaked lighting is a manual process which is why shadows/ray casts nearly always go wrong with it

there is a computational penalty for that, PTX pathing for rays is not cheap for acceleration, its extremely expensive, it exists to help game developers not have to bother with making every single light source be custom allocated, that's the main purpose of it (it's not new even, going back over 2 decades it's always existed, just there wasn't the hardware to accelerate it), which is why games like doom TDA which do not have a fallback option have double the levels over the previous game

[misty ether]

:essaying:

[vestal zodiac]

i love spreading misinformation on the interwebs

[naive ember]

[vestal zodiac]

on the brightside i just got my new gtx960 for my pc

[chilly jacinth]

Very new gpu for sure

[vestal zodiac]

thx i worked hard for it

[naive ember]

[misty ether]

At least it can run PhysX better than a 5080.

[vestal zodiac]

im playing BF2 right now

its running smooth

[polar burrow]

is it me or bf42 player count got less after the secure boot update ??

[misty ether]

BFIQ prevented players from enabling secure boot.

So, the playerbase got cut by 75%.

[vestal zodiac]

big brain move

[remote kiln]

more or less unchanged from a month ago on steam

[polar burrow]

dang 75% .wow .guess it will drop to 85% when they do the tpm update ???

[misty ether]

Deco on that copium.

[remote kiln]

I'm just looking at the numbers lol

[polar burrow]

i suppose the secure boot and tpm2 will be a must for the new BF6 . right ??

[remote kiln]

well this is javelin enforced and assuming the game uses it then yeah

tpm? who knows

[misty ether]

:essaying:

[remote kiln]

there is a key difference with the labs requirements though with this, and it's that a zen+ processor (Ryzen 2600), assuming that holds, they could enforce tpm

[polar burrow]

wow . i have a friend who still playes on i7 4790 . guess bad luck for him

[chilly jacinth]

If your system doesn't support it you can still play

until they change that

[vocal tusk]

Na, the steam playerbase is well down, even versus a month ago to be fair. May 9th versus today its a difference of over 6K players

[polar burrow]

im 12600k .im good

[remote kiln]

nobody knows if it'll happen, they can't with 2042 because it's a zen 1 processor (Ryzen 1600), which doesn't support GMET via SLAT for VBS acceleration, but the labs one isn't that

[vocal tusk]

But 2042 kinda has these shifts in players, you can see it over the last 3 months, it drops off, then it picks up. But it usally picks up when there is an event pass.

[obsidian tide]

Or a sale.

[vocal tusk]

Sooner the next game comes out the better tho, so 2042 can be forgotten

[remote kiln]

^

[polar burrow]

true .but it would be sad leaving all the hours u spent in the game .oh well time to add tons of hours in the new game

[vestal zodiac]

2042 is a great game

[misty ether]

What drugs did YOU take?

[vocal tusk]

I have legit zero interest in 2042 anymore. Nothing left to do, and I have no great desire to play out the same match on a different map for the 5000th time.

[polar burrow]

agreed

[misty ether]

Top Bunk; Belt; Now

RIP

[polar burrow]

no daddy noo!!

[remote kiln]

2042 is mediocre, being nice, game has too many inherit issues

[vestal zodiac]

i will die on this hill but not so soon

[misty ether]

Why would you spare the whip?

[remote kiln]

lol

[vestal zodiac]

BF hardline was a great time

[remote kiln]

nice maps can't make up for broken input

[polar burrow]

true

[misty ether]

And then it died.

[vestal zodiac]

BF3 was just nostalgic, not that great

[misty ether]

There is a total of like 6 players on Hardline.

[polar burrow]

i prefer 4

[vestal zodiac]

2042 haters are just old people afraid of change

scared feeble old timers

toddlers even

[remote kiln]

you need to try harder with rage bait my guy

[misty ether]

Or, and hear me out, 2042 has genuine problems.

[vestal zodiac]

rage bait? only when its inconvienent right? or a different opinion lmao

[vocal tusk]

2042 as a game is fine

[vestal zodiac]

nae nae baby

[remote kiln]

if that's your opinion (actually), then I'm even more worried

[vocal tusk]

I wouldnt have played it for 1500 hours if it wasnt. It is factually the worst BF game by far tho

[misty ether]

Takes your meds.

[vestal zodiac]

beans on toast

case closed

[misty ether]

No more blue pills for you

[remote kiln]

[vestal zodiac]

anyways, talks of poeple wanting locked classes is wild

[vocal tusk]

👍

[remote kiln]

^

[vestal zodiac]

thats where 2042 got it right imo

[vocal tusk]

👍

[misty ether]

I stan the locked class weapons.

Idc

Either way

[vestal zodiac]

i see

[misty ether]

Just be ready for the death and destruction on those servers.

Of

AR + Sniper

[vestal zodiac]

medics are also an extreme rarity to comeby. i get praised for being a reviving medic lol

odd times

[polar burrow]

the classes skill is a little much. i would prefer to use one operator and switch skills for him

[vestal zodiac]

yea i can see that being a cool option/feature

sundance being able to have EMP's would be OP with the scatter nade

[polar burrow]

bf42 doesnt have a story so why adding people with background we dont know anything about except from the tips

[vestal zodiac]

maybe gives the community a little imagination to work with

[misty ether]

New BF title is about to be such a crop farm.

Can’t wait to make people refund the game.

[polar burrow]

irish is exception tho i was glad to see the old dude grown up .lol

[vestal zodiac]

portal is fun af tho

thats a nice feature

[polar burrow]

true . i played FFA and hardcore alot

a offical free for all and gunmaster would be nice

[misty ether]

You’ll get a free BR and you will like it and you will NOT complain -DICE; 2025

[remote kiln]

it does, it's just not executed very well

[misty ether]

Yeah, that’s putting it WAY too kindly.

[remote kiln]

meh story telling for this franchise has always been bad anyways so 2042 doesn't change much

the problem is needing to listen to insider podcasts to know what the intent is for the story, sucks

[vestal zodiac]

Redacted is an A+ map

[indigo ruin]

i like orbital

[vestal zodiac]

solid map

[indigo ruin]

ITS DOPE

[misty ether]

Redacted is the ONLY map

[indigo ruin]

also i agree with what u said earlier...2042 is a damn fine game

im like 200 hours in and im really enhoying it

[polar burrow]

the new story would be russia vs you know who .lol

[vestal zodiac]

lol

[indigo ruin]

russia vs mexico

[misty ether]

That’s a long way into depression.

[remote kiln]

it's not a coincidence the best maps are none of the base ones

[vestal zodiac]

narcs vs slavs

would be awesome lol

[remote kiln]

exposure/redacted are the only "good" maps really

[vestal zodiac]

stadium is good

[indigo ruin]

not if my brain starts pumping out those dopamines

[remote kiln]

flashpoint is alright, maybe b

[vestal zodiac]

minecraft is goated

[obsidian tide]

If only there was more leaning into how terrible and fleeting everything was in the setting. Except, uplifting the No-Pats took priority.

[indigo ruin]

skyrim modded is goated lol

[vestal zodiac]

lol yes

[remote kiln]

yeah it doesn't work well

[vestal zodiac]

oblivion modded goes hard

[indigo ruin]

i have like 1000 hours after installing 3500 mods

[vestal zodiac]

damn lol

[indigo ruin]

did u buy the REMASTER???????????

[vestal zodiac]

no 😦

[remote kiln]

I have a feeling they saw hazard zone and went let's use that for the story at release then when that flopped they changed tack

[indigo ruin]

ok same here

[vestal zodiac]

BF1 has to be the hardest BF known to man

reminds me of HLL

fun but hard game

[neat trellis]

:I

hi

[indigo ruin]

hey buddy

[remote kiln]

if the campaign story for the next game sucks then there may aswell not be another campaign again, if lehto of all people can't make one for battlefield nobody can

[obsidian tide]

The funny thing is, the soundtrack DLC is supposed to give that idea, due to heavy use of straining/wrought metal noises, foghorns, and implying shipping industry/the Exodus. Except, there are few to no other main sections besides those sounds, and it does not add in cues or backing from, say, BF3's or BF4's handling to give variety and such that may retain the listener with familiarity, but also expand on the 2042 tracks' purpose and theme implications a little.

[neat trellis]

What are you all talking about?

[vestal zodiac]

the current state of the world

and how great 2042 is

[indigo ruin]

im gonna be honest, every campaign ive played for BF was kind of meh. i havent played hardline, bf 1 and bf 5 tho

[remote kiln]

yeah they want to do all these small drops and what not to "build" a story but appealing to 1% of folk for that just means nobody knows or cares about it

[vestal zodiac]

and possibly when the next McRib is going to release

[vestal zodiac]

Hardline campaign is fun

[indigo ruin]

atleast compared to MW2

[obsidian tide]

More importantly, having all of that in an ignorable place with no videos or transcripts akin to the first-time game launch cutscenes and Hourglass Tutorial match.

[vestal zodiac]

good cop/bad cop

[remote kiln]

1/5 don't have campaigns, they're war stories, hard-line does have one which is alright, but the game wasn't made by dice anyways

[vestal zodiac]

fwost bwite

[obsidian tide]

The only time anything really bad happens is when the Dead Space continuity tie-in comes up. Even then, the main cast has plot armor even when the writing really shouldn't have put them in places where it is obvious in spite of what is going on around them.

[neat trellis]

OK

[vestal zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

[indigo ruin]

im not clicking on that link just to see a gif 😛

hahaha

[vestal zodiac]

lol its from discord

[indigo ruin]

sceew dice for bannign gifs

[vestal zodiac]

probs within chat settings

[indigo ruin]

ya

[obsidian tide]

It is a Rat Looking at Webcam GIF.

[indigo ruin]

rats are adorable

but i feel bad for them

like every species on this planet wants them dead

[vestal zodiac]

they have tunnels under NYC

[indigo ruin]

and they still manage to survive

[indigo ruin]

i saw a video of a seagull eating a rat

https://tenor.com/view/sexy-pig-haram-thong-pork-loins-gif-16194317

heres my gif

[naive ember]

Imagine going back in time and telling everyone what happens to the server

[uneven egret]

any idea why my battlefield 42 keeps crashing?

i only have discord open and i can play for like 3 mins then it crashes

whenever i die i crash

[visual mantle]

time to uninstall

[uneven egret]

its something to do with my amd

[misty ether]

Do you have 6000 series card?

If so, rollback to 25.3.1, I guess 23.5.1 has issues.

[remote kiln]

discord specifically is to do with the latest driver 25.6.1, battlefield has been >25.3.1

Stutter and lower than expected performance may be observed when using alt-tab and streaming to Discord with multiple monitors.

[obsidian tide]

Weird. Have yet to experience that, but presumably, RX 5000 and RX 6000 moment, or just multi-monitor things that do not affect me.

[uneven egret]

no idea

i havent got a clue, my dad went on my pc to play zombies and now everything is fucked cause he updated them XD, trying to figure out (have googled it) how to install a previous version

[obsidian tide]

Ctrl+Shift+Esc, Performance tab, GPU graph.

[keen remnant]

im connecting from epic games, and this was a 5 days ago. im still experienceing the same issue. "Error unable to connect to EA servers"

idk what is going on

[uneven egret]

i finally got it sorted, had to devolve my amd drivers and repair ea app

its working now

[uneven egret]

yep i did, thank you

jesus christ this game is soo fucking sweaty XD

joined a breakthrough, top 4 on defense combined is 24-32, top 4 on attackers is 250- 8 XD

[subtle shoal]

There are a lot of bots filling the lobbies, so scorelines are often pretty inflated.

[fresh grail]

Is wrapped pretty much the best barrel attachment?

[fresh grail]

4 was sweaty too

[uneven egret]

true

[acoustic seal]

4 had gameplay worth getting good at, bf1-5-2042 not so much

[karmic oasis]

having a hard time finding full matches now

[burnt halo]

same