battlefield-2042

[vocal tusk]

DF seems to be relying on the streamers and it's extraction mode for mass popularity

[eager spire]

but it has functioning mouse input, and doesn't have a recoil bug as far as i'm aware.

[vocal tusk]

8/10 players you ask on PC won't even know that there is an issue with input. And the recoil bug only affects 2 or 3 weapons. It's not even all that affecting as a bug. Again, most players wouldn't even notice it

[eager spire]

but there is, it was acknowledged by the developers as being a thing in the video game.

[sinful parrot]

I would probably notice it

[vocal tusk]

Do you even read?

Not you the other guy

[sinful parrot]

Especially now that i know of it

[vocal tusk]

They don't even play this game

[eager spire]

doesn't matter if people wouldn't notice it, it shouldn't be an issue.

[vocal tusk]

Lol

Not saying it should, or it's acceptable. But for someone who have like 2 hours game time, you sure harp on about this issue non stop, and claim it's game breaking. When it REALLY isnt

[late blaze]

why there are bugs?! EA has the money

[vocal tusk]

Here comes "sorry for having standards"

[eager spire]

i mean having an issue with mouse input in a first person shooter should be a big deal, cause, you know, you aim with it.

[vocal tusk]

It's likely an engine level bug that can't be fully fixed. This game is essentially dead support wise. It's on QoL life support.

[eager spire]

Any other game has an issue like this, people would tear it apart.

But no, it's not a problem if Battlefield has mouse input that DOESN'T FUNCTION CORRECTLY

[vocal tusk]

But this dude never played, and doesn't play the game. So dont fully trust their opinion

They are only here to hate. Look at their Comment history

[sinful parrot]

I think both of you are correct

A engine level mouse input bug is the last thing you wanna hear in a fps game

I thought frostbite was super duper awesome

[eager spire]

2042 was rushed.

[vocal tusk]

For it's current price, the game is well worth it. You'll get more than your money's worth out of it. It's not worth it for over 30 tho. Not at end of life

[sinful parrot]

Yeah its not like it was very expensive

[vocal tusk]

It's 4.99 haha. Less than a Starbucks

[mossy badge]

visually stunning game are made on frostbite like battlefield 1 but most of the games made on frostbite has performance issues somehow battlefield 1 and v runs fine

[eager spire]

i donno personally you'd have to pay me to play this again. would rather buy Insurgency: Sandstorm.

[vocal tusk]

Go do that then

[mossy badge]

starwars battlefront ii is a boring game but man it looks good

[sinful parrot]

The new need for speed games are also made on frostbite and fry your cpu

[mossy badge]

battlefront i also looked beautiful

[eager spire]

don't have the money at the moment. Probably will eventually though, there's a new update coming out.

[mossy badge]

i think i only tried it for few hours

i dont know if i liked it or not

[sinful parrot]

They cant get their handling feeling right

Doesnt feel like a car its very artificial

[mossy badge]

i tbh really love nfs 2015 which people hate because it has awful handling and i really enjoy that game

[sinful parrot]

I also love the game but i still hate playing it because of that

Its weird

[eager spire]

I've had friends who reinstalled Unbound after the latest update due to the MW2005 inspired Blacklist cars. They seem to be enjoying the game.

[mossy badge]

but i many times get into lane that is not the main track it happens a lot to me which is my fault

[sinful parrot]

Yeah this is like the only time nfs has proper multiplayer support and it seems to work well

[mossy badge]

new update added a bmw bike which is cool imo and i would love to see them adding more bikes in next game

[still vault]

To be fair. All games have bugs. Every single one of them. They all live on a spectrum going from acceptable to unacceptable and the players don't agree when the switch from one to the other happens.

[mossy badge]

like the crew 2

[sinful parrot]

I hate the crew 2

[eager spire]

The idea of a car battle royale extraction game is interesting, i haven't seen how it actually plays yet tho

also fuck The Crew 2, why are there boats and planes in this racing game, who wanted that.

[sinful parrot]

I wanted to try it and i got stuck on a infinite loading screen so i cant tell you either

[sinful parrot]

Ironically the planes are the only fun vehicle to use

The graphics are also extremely ugly

[mossy badge]

its a very bad game but dont ask me how do i have 300 hours in it

i like its map

so much

it looks so bad

but it is so big

[sinful parrot]

You just said 2 bad things

[mossy badge]

you know that game which you hate but love at the same time

thats crew ii for me

[sinful parrot]

Yeah well nfs 2015 at least had vibes and pretty graphics

I dont see any redeeming qualities for tc2

[vital quail]

I pretty much never watch speedruns but I feel like every game people speedrun involves glitches, unless stated, and nobody seems to care

[eager spire]

single player games being broken and then completed fast is fun. multiplayer games being broken is not fun.

unless those games are co-op in which case it can be fun.

it's very situational.

[mossy badge]

there is some cool things like it got bikes and has a lot of cars, huge map and has decent car customization many variety races you can explore air, water and land everything not inside water but what you see you can go there in crew ii

it has plane, boat, monster truck, dirt bikes, sports bike, and of course cars and a lot of them

[mental delta]

[sinful parrot]

Its a jack of all trades master of none imo

The crew motorfest did it way better

It was smaller in scope but higher quality

[mossy badge]

i have different opinion on motorfest bro

it doesnt have the map i loved and i dont like the map motorfest got but i love the first person steering animation work in motorfest it is done so well

[sinful parrot]

I prefer the motorfest map

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

Thank you all for your thoughts and feedback around Conquest Forever on #Battlefield2042, this week's playlist option that merges both Conquest 128 and Conquest 64 in a single playlist.

This is a temporary playlist, with Conquest 128 and Close Quarters Conquest (Stadium, Redacted, and Haven 24/7) returning next week.

This week's playlist is an experimental playlist that puts the building blocks in place for us to create additional playlists that have differentiating player counts and modes which leads to further creative experiences and mode mashups.

As you play this weekend, be sure to let us know your thoughts and continue to share your feedback about the matchmaking process for Conquest Forever, and look forward to the return of Conquest 128 and Close Quarter Conquest next week!

Keep your eyes peeled to the Community Calendar to discover what modes are arriving and when: https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/community-calendar

𝕏 | 📷1 · Nov 29, 2024, 11:24 AM

[vital quail]

Time to put the pitchforks down

[olive stag]

This playmode makes the Game finally uninteresting.I bought the Game to play it like I WANT and NOT how THEY want.Is this the Big Community Test for the next Battlefield ?😂

Iam using only the EA - App and its still bugged.Friendlist ,online Friends example.Sometimes the bugs are fixed,after weeks they are back.Seems they cant handle and unable to fix the Problem .Searching for excuses.Thats Basic stuff and should be fixed first ! Try to understand : You are the Boss and a worker shows this attitude of work.

[chilly jacinth]

Friendslist has been bugged forever and won't be fixed

[naive ember]

Cool a new tk

[void sapphire]

HI GUYS the game is stuck on the first loading screen any fix for this ?

[chilly jacinth]

Restart

[void sapphire]

i did it

[chilly jacinth]

It will work eventually

If you restart

[void sapphire]

restart the game or the pc ?

[chilly jacinth]

game

[olive stag]

did it work now ?

[zealous loom]

@dusty elm It works off a skill rating, so a hidden rank. They made a whole white paper on it but in short, you have 10 skill tiers. So say you average skill rating 7, then 7 will be your base point. But, if you have one or two above-average good games, you’ll be put with a skill rating of 9 or 10 players for 3ish matches until you start playing poorly. The problem is that if you are a person who even puts a little effort into doing well, while you may not be a skill rating 9 or 10 yourself, the system realizes you do “okay” against those players, so that becomes your new baseline and every match becomes sweaty.

[void sapphire]

no i will try to repair it but it will take a long time

[olive stag]

did you try to restart it few times ? I had this error in the past too.All sudden it worked.Maybe its an server issue...

[void sapphire]

Yes i did but i will try again if it's not work after the repair

[still vault]

There is no answer, but Angel has the answer

[olive stag]

thats the famous battlefield expierience

[void sapphire]

It is work now thx for your help

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

http://x.com/i/article/1862511988342951936

𝕏 · Nov 29, 2024, 3:02 PM

[arctic grove]

is hazard zone even work?

[low timber]

Seems like the NTW-50 is gonna be Anti-Dozer weapon

[knotty olive]

anyone know how to fix the game not launching on steam? It says its running an ea script which prompts the EA launcher to download ( something) but it just doesn't work. I also can't download the EA app from their website...

[ivory canopy]

Wait - if the FNB begins 8 PM EDT, does that mean I'll see it at 7 PM?

[sudden goblet]

real

[naive ember]

Just throw a IG at em

[ivory canopy]

an old saying goes: if all else fails, use fire

[hard jay]

Hey noobs

[ivory canopy]

Slugcat

[hard jay]

Slug with a cat

Cat sluggg

Cat with a cat

[ivory canopy]

Reminds me of a game I should play

[hard jay]

How many

Do you wnat

[ivory canopy]

100 billion

[hard jay]

Watch dogs 1

@ivory canopy

[ivory canopy]

I don't own that

Sorry

Anyways, the S22 is funny.
On one hand, you get 10 shots and it's slow to reload.
On the other, it works pretty well if you use it close

[hard jay]

I don't care

Play it NOW

[sinful parrot]

Just launched the game and i do notice something off with my aim

But holy crap this game is pretty and runs well too

I cant even get cod to run at 144 fps on low and this game does it no problem on medium

[ivory canopy]

The state of AAA resource hogging

I hope EA DICE don't make next BF so resource hungry as to require a Ryzen 7 and a 30 series, minimum

Then again I'm probably not going to be buying the next BF...

[sinful parrot]

It runs pretty well for me im on a 2080

Is there a fps counter? Couldnt find it in settings

[bitter mulch]

Just watched BF3 mp trailer and if they come close to this with the next BF... i just cant wait. After 10 years going back to modern warfare

[sinful parrot]

Crouching/sliding feels terrible in this game

Its so delayed

[mental delta]

I mean BF4 was modern warfare

[bitter mulch]

BF3 was better

and BF4 came in 2013 so its still more than 10 years

[mental delta]

Bruh you're fr

Next game might be the come back everyone has been waiting for

I'm excited for this game

But the wait is still a bit long

[bitter mulch]

it is yeah

[mental delta]

Since we don't have a precise date

[bitter mulch]

i mean were are probably less than 6 months away from reveal

[mental delta]

I just hope they don't delete it to 2026

[mental delta]

Maybe less tbh considering they want to play test in early 2025 we might see thr new game soon

[ivory canopy]

PerfOverlay.DrawFPS 1

in the console

[bitter mulch]

yeah but we dont know what they really meant with that. Will that be an official test or behind closed doors

[ivory canopy]

I'd rather see a 2026 release that's good than a 2025 that's as bad as launch day BF2042 was

[bitter mulch]

that is also true

[sinful parrot]

Thanks, according to nvidia i got 90-100 on medium with dlss quality

[short radish]

Definitely

[sinful parrot]

Also any way to disable the film grain?

Combined with my upscaler it looks pretty bad

[mental delta]

I hope they reveal some stuff about the game as well otherwise it's pointless to talk about playtests

[bitter mulch]

yeah that makes sense, but you know how it is

[ivory canopy]

They need to seriously wow me to get me signed on. Right now I'm pretty firm on staying out of the next title.

But I'm not convinced that it'll be particularly good, much less on launch day

[mental delta]

My only conditions were no specialists and smaller maps so the map design is better

They've confirmed both those things

I'm still wonder what they'll do in terms of atmosphere though

[ivory canopy]

Ok, so all it needs now is to be a playable game.

[mental delta]

I hope they're going back to a more immersive games with milsim skins only

[ivory canopy]

If they're going to make it near-future a la a sequel to BF2042, if they add a story, it should be where like half the specialists get killed off.

[mental delta]

But seeing the shitty BF2042 skins and considering they've probably seen how much cash COD is making with shitty skins I wouldn't be surprised they try it as well

[ivory canopy]

Or they're already gone by that point

[mental delta]

It won't be near future

It won't be a sequel to BF2042 either

[ivory canopy]

oof?

BC3 confirmed?

[mental delta]

No ?

Why would it be BFBC3 obligatorily if it's modern lol

[ivory canopy]

Are those games not set in a modern (for their time of release) setting?

[mental delta]

Yes they are

But the fact they're making something modern doesn't have to mean it's gonna be BFBC3

[ivory canopy]

Well, just throwing thoughts around

[acoustic seal]

all we know is that it's near-future modern and they're copying the warzone model of having a battle royale separate from the main game

neither of which really inspire confidence imo

and also that the key art they showed might be AI generated lmao

four (4) studios working on the game, too many cooks in the kitchen or can one of them put out a product that isn't unplayable at launch and dead in 3 months?

[ivory canopy]

First impressions matter. BF2042 failed miserably in that regard.

Even at the time I would look at things like the weapons like, "That's it? This is all you get?"

[acoustic seal]

2042 isn't exactly good now, all the people who cared about gameplay moved on and the tourists who come to soypog at the pretty graphics replaced them

[ivory canopy]

It's pretty good in a vacuum. Key words: in a vacuum.
If I had to choose between this and, say, BF4, I think I'd prefer to play BF4

The game falters when you compare it to earlier titles, games that, while not very good at launch either, turned out to be really good once EA DICE got their act together.

[acoustic seal]

bf4 wasn't foundationally rotted in the same way 2042 was from having to pivot mid-development and salvage assets

i don't think they're comparable

[ivory canopy]

I've had some say that BF4 was actually more broken at launch. How true that is, I can't vouch since I haven't played launch day BF4

[acoustic seal]

it was incredibly broken, but it was all technical issues rather than gameplay and design issues

[short radish]

I’m probably gonna buy it to see what it’s like but go back to BF1,BFV and BF2042 eventually

[acoustic seal]

forgot another thing, the multiplayer part of titanfall 2 was overrated as fuck so vince zampella being in charge doesn't convince me either

literal call of duty hitscan laser beam gunplay made all the movement irrelevant so you had to LARP like you were playing tribes and only take the epg/cold war to get some semblance of skill out of it

and it was totally pointless to take any titan other than monarch for the remote lifesteal and hitscan laserbeam chaingun

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-quit-yapping-yap-waffle-stfu-gif-2451949384988892352

[frozen loom]

The Apache Warchief is my sworn enemy.

Cowards.

[oblique briar]

[frozen loom]

They shouldn't get flares.

[acoustic seal]

me when i hipfire alternator someone from across the map mid grapple and they die in 4 bullets

sadly the mod that turned everything into a projectile came way after the game was dead

[oblique briar]

God the alternator was so broken in tf2

[acoustic seal]

they almost figured it out in apex but then added cod-tier bullshit aim assist to compensate

[oblique briar]

yep

Still loved it tho i stayed loyal

Too bad apex turned to shit

Season 11 is when everything started to go wrong

[hard jay]

Yeah titanfall 2 was just cod with a hit more movement

[naive ember]

Was watching a twitch stream and it looks boring

Haven't played since the beginning

[acoustic seal]

@lilac dust buddy, did you forget about advanced warfare?

most people did so i can't blame you really

[lilac dust]

I don't know what point ya'll are tryna make. Titanfall which released almost a year before advanced warfare was created by most of the devs that made the original modern warfare. All good innovation uses existing systems or ideas and builds upon them. Hence you get titanfall 1 & 2. Cod but good

[pine roost]

Projectile based titanfall does sound fun

Even with how it is, it’s my favourite shooter

[hard jay]

My favourite first person shooter has to be phantom forces

[pine roost]

Oh you wouldn’t believe how much fun I had with that

[hard jay]

Its not my favourite shooter but i did have alot of fun with it,more fun than any cod game actually

Its atleast a top 3 multiplayer fps for me

[bitter mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_U0-wDUexo still one of the best BF theme songs

from Play 4 Free BF

[spare quest]

good times

[pine roost]

I’ve not played anything that’s surpassed it since, nothing’s done it for me which is a shame. What shooters are on your top?

[hard jay]

Team fortress 2, battlefield 1 and the finals

Theres not alot of multiplayer games that catch my interest

[pine roost]

I wish I could put the finals up there but any kind of 3v3.. close knit team stuff just relies too much on random chance

[hard jay]

Its not perfect but its the most fun i had in a multiplayer game since battlefield 1

Theres a couple of stuff in that game that makes me wanna quit

Such as the lack of keyboard and mouse support on consoles

No text chat on consoles

[pine roost]

Yeah it’s super fun, but I would enjoy it far more if it was a 6v6 semi-arena style thing over a small multi squad type thing

[hard jay]

Bad servers

And insta revive gadget

[hard jay]

They released a 5v5 mode similar to push the kart from team fortress 2

Game is definitely a breath of fresh air although im not a fan of the microtransaction system

[thick spruce]

can you for the love of god keep a single infantry conquest playlist in there

[opaque gyro]

we need redacted back. all other maps wre stupid

[thick spruce]

yes

boot up the game to see the only marginally fun thing vanish

[acoustic nacelle]

Anyone know a good xp farm for lvls

I had to make a new acc on psn and how to stsrt from schrach

[acoustic seal]

they're figuring out how to do mixed playercount playlists this week (after 3 years...), next week will have "cancel every stadium and haven lobby" simulator again

https://x.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1862457550140318013

[opaque gyro]

how to play redacted without stupid bots?

[short radish]

You’ll have to join a match and hope for redacted to come up or host your own game

Or join a redacted only server but you’ll probably not find one

And if you don’t want to do that you can change the bot level to expert

[quiet shell]

AP rounds can finally pierce Dozers shield.
3 years later

When barely anyone plays this game

[acoustic seal]

general neglect followed by too-little-too-late is just how we do things around here

[short radish]

That sounds about right

[gritty cypress]

Hey guys, which playlists currently have redacted in them? I can't find any games on the map :/

Used to have a good chance on infantry conquest, but that's gone now 😭

[rocky gust]

Oh my god that sounds like shit

[sonic stone]

conquest 64 and breakthrough 64. I know, I'm not happy the infantry conquest playlist is gone also.

[left marsh]

me and my friend are trying to fight on separate teams in a custom game, but we always end up on the same team. how do we load into different teams or switch teams?

[sinful parrot]

I tried some 2042 deathmatch and honestly im not a fan

[zealous loom]

I'm not the biggest fan of 2042 as well, I just can't think of other good fps to hold me over till the next BF

[sinful parrot]

The sliding feels clunky, your mouse aim has a slight delay, the hud/ui is confusing and clunky, the ttk is giga short, you cant tell where anyone is because there are no red dots and the game has a forced film grain filter

[sinful parrot]

There are none

Im a fps fan and im literally playing racing games right now

[zealous loom]

Exactly, we are going through an fps plague right now

[sinful parrot]

MAYBE xdefiant season 3 will turn it around but thats copium

[zealous loom]

I just been been on RDR2 and GTA lately

[sinful parrot]

I should try gta online again, last i played was right before caio perico dropped

[rocky gust]

oh dude

i forgot xdefiant exists

[sinful parrot]

Yeah they dropped the ball

Shocker from ubisoft

[rocky gust]

i remember enjoying the game in the first season

leave it to ubisoft to fuck up a normal game

look at what they did to r6s LMAO

from a tactical shooter to OW valo

[sinful parrot]

Its okay and playable, but idk everything is delayed and gunplay is like a roblox version of cod

The maps are S tier tho

[eager spire]

xdefiant is a game that so throughly does not understand the problems of it's competition.

Like, they thought they could get away with just having input based matchmaking and no SBMM

It's not enough, the game is mid if you take those two things away.

like, it's an annoying hero shooter.

[rocky gust]

exactly

remove hero shooters

[copper fulcrum]

Whaddya mean?!?!?!?!?! Everyone loves an ultra that gives you a one-shot kill pistol AND can see everyone through walls!

[eager spire]

i do love that, i also love an ability that gives a specific faction a free kill in close range, as well as free damage over time.

And also another faction gets a grenade launcher.

And a different faction gets an immunity to headshot multiplier damage

totally necessary and fun abilities to have in the video game

[young fog]

anyone wanna play some bf2042 on playstation?

[acoustic seal]

no

[near spindle]

question
pc player playing 2042 for the first time
why is a space video playing over and over?

[mental delta]

That's the loading screen

[near spindle]

oh

[arctic spoke]

New weapon update when ?

[near spindle]

it was still loading 30 mins later

im restarting it

[royal trail]

That loadingscreen should only be there for some seconds

Atleast for me

[near spindle]

oh my god

i was sitting there for 30 mins

after i restarted it

[royal trail]

Damn

[near spindle]

it loaded INSTANTLY

[mental delta]

It's a bug then

[mental delta]

Never as the game support is over

This game won't get any new content at all

[near spindle]

shitty bug

[mental delta]

Just wait for BF6 next year if you want something new

[mental delta]

Apparently it's a common bug on PC

[worthy schooner]

is there a key that stabilizes the sniper

also do the range marks actually work on the sniper scopes or are they just for show

[acoustic seal]

shift by default, and no they're p much random

[kindred flint]

the only time i wish levelution was still a thing is when i see my team camping on the top of the stupid hourglass skyscrapers while we are losing

[acoustic seal]

those people are usually dumb enough that you can tk them with the angel crate

[rocky gust]

i always do that

if im playing BT and I see someone 100m or more away

death by crate, no exception

[kindred flint]

i joined the 128p match in progress, and went 32-2 (died in the last 5 seconds) using the strife/ type 4-subsonic the bullet drop on that combo is hilarious

[rocky gust]

yeah you can see it fall off

for me, i stay like 40-75m away

the subsonic makes 90 percent of the players so confused where they're getting shot they sometimes dont even react

[kindred flint]

was using bipod/4x1 scope shooting like 120-200m

aiming so high even at the 4x zoom

[acoustic seal]

this happens even without subsonic/supp tbh

[kindred flint]

its true..which makes it worse

[rocky gust]

yeah i mean even with all the suppresor nerfs ppl still don't look at the map so

[kindred flint]

subsonic and the heavy suppressors though like its so fucking quiet its really annoying when i get shot at by that combo

and the lack of indicator

[rocky gust]

oh man that reminds me of m3 grease gun and the m1 infrared from bfv

those were some fun weapons

[arctic spoke]

I think we in need of bf1942 revival

Classic

Ww2 theme

And its have that one map Soo unbalance you can capture enemy base without meet any enemy

Too bad portal didn't add that map

[eager spire]

no

[mossy badge]

we need battlefield iiii and iii type game

[arctic spoke]

The game developer is not there

They move to cod

Some

Maybe

[mossy badge]

its noramal medal of honor devs moved to cod

[arctic spoke]

Or delta force

[mossy badge]

then they come back to battlefield

its very normal

[arctic spoke]

No hope

I just hope criterion good

They good developer

Just make sure they fired whoever choose the soundtrack for unbound

No class , no DLC , no skin

Sell the game on $60 - 100 price tags i don't care

I just want the main protagonist unamed soldier to show being die on battlefield along with other player

That what battlefield mean for me

[vital quail]

When it comes to bad ideas, nobody is beating battlefield fans 💯

[arctic spoke]

True 🙂

Well atleast its not cod

[rigid atlas]

who can have 3 c5

[chilly jacinth]

Engineers

[arctic grove]

classes are cool though

[arctic spoke]

Depend

[arctic grove]

i want to risk my life saving downed teammates in the battlefield

[arctic spoke]

If that class including something specific let's say near operator type of gadget then its not

Like bf2042 right now

Like more ammo , more medic bag , more redemploy is fine

The problem is developer today tend to "improved" upon what already perfect

Sometimes that "improved" is in
Wrong direction

[robust vapor]

portal AEK > AOW AEK

[arctic spoke]

Aow?

[eager spire]

All-Out Warfare

[rocky gust]

yeah no we don't

[arctic spoke]

I love old thing

[naive ember]

#battlefield-legacy-titles

[short radish]

Am I an idiot or did conquest 128 change to 128 and 64

[naive ember]

[fiery tendon]

Will there be another event the following month?

[vocal tusk]

They are testing mixed mode playlists

https://x.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1862457550140318013?t=d3znMH2sepXMgAnJl-vcng&s=19

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) on X

Thank you all for your thoughts and feedback around Conquest Forever on #Battlefield2042, this week's playlist option that merges both Conquest 128 and Conquest 64 in a single playlist.

This is a temporary playlist, with Conquest 128 and Close Quarters Conquest (Stadium,

Twitter · Nov 29, 2024, 11:24 AM

Better link for the info #direct-communication message

[frozen loom]

Been using the NVK. It's pretty good.

[short radish]

Thanks

[frozen loom]

I never noticed that you can see your teammates' pistols on their holsters.

What are the chances of two identical setups without clan tags?

[vocal tusk]

Did you notice that weapon sillouettes on the HUD update to match the attachments you use 😁

[frozen loom]

I always thought it was like that.

[frozen loom]

I think I'll try to T1 the NVK.

[vocal tusk]

It was updated to work like that a while after release, with on of the many UI updates.

It's quite funny to look back at the UI and menus at release and see how different things are now.

[mental delta]

I mean it has always been like that

Since launch

3 years ago

[frozen loom]

I've only been playing BF 2042 since July 2023.

So, I wouldn't know.

[untold flower]

@robust vapor W

[worthy schooner]

what would be the downsides of picking a plane and then crashing it into a large group of infantry

[robust vapor]

W

[worthy schooner]

like is there a penalty for that

[chilly jacinth]

The only penalty is waiting for another plane

[untold flower]

@robust vapor W bruh

[robust vapor]

W bruh

ez

except the lag

[untold flower]

[robust vapor]

[untold flower]

bruh the lag is worse when playing infantry

[untold flower]

@robust vapor W

[robust vapor]

W team ong

But too fast of a game

Xd

[untold flower]

yeah bruh

[untold flower]

share highlights

[robust vapor]

kk

@untold flower

W

[untold flower]

the guy raging in chat for 2 matches straight

[robust vapor]

poor bastard can't win

[sinful parrot]

Is there a class that lets me see enemies on the minimap like a uav in cod

I always die to people i dont see and the fast ttk doesnt help

[spare quest]

no

[gritty cypress]

you can go recon and use one of the gadgets

[sinful parrot]

Yeah i didnt really know how they work cause nothing is explained

[toxic flicker]

bought bf but i am very disapointed in multiplayer

lot of cheaters,

[spare quest]

everything is explained

[toxic flicker]

worht buying only to play coop with friends in private session

[sinful parrot]

Ive never played a battlefield before

So its confusing to me

[fickle wharf]

[spare quest]

click on a gadget/specialist in the collection tab and you see the descriptions

[sinful parrot]

Ight

[gritty cypress]

yeah, this game is particularly bad at not telling you stuff 😂

[spare quest]

reading is hard

[gritty cypress]

well, the UI is a mess

[fickle wharf]

no its not

[sinful parrot]

This is the ui of a game that launched without a scoreboard

[gritty cypress]

the fact that when you are choosing your spawn, a bunch of them can overlap, even 3yrs after launch is indicative of the UI design woes

they dont even tell you that you can click the names of your squadmates to spawn on them (in the list on the left)

but they also dont include stuff that gets hard to click in that list so

[gritty cypress]

the UI is bad, very very bad

[fickle wharf]

[gritty cypress]

from a UX perspective, the player can get lost so easily

they are also super inconsistant as theyve been updated multiple times, but not all of them so theres mismatches

dont even get me started on the UI in the portal menus

i dont blame many people for bailing on the game when the main method of interaction with it, is just so... all over the place

[arctic grove]

hey

[gritty cypress]

another example... when they added the functionality to play another round on the same map (switching sides) when you finish a round... everyone still quit to the main menu because it was so poorly labelled lol

[arctic grove]

is it too late to jump in bf 2042?

[gritty cypress]

nah, it's aight

[acoustic seal]

it was too late at launch

i remember when it was first found out that the hulu ui design team was working on call of duty and that's why the menus were so ass

dice really said "copy their homework"

[arctic grove]

i been eyeing this game for some time

idek if it's dead or sum

[acoustic seal]

it's been dead for 2.5 years

[gritty cypress]

its a fairly fun modern experience, still some frustrations here and there, theres a fair amount of ppl still playing tho

most of us are jaded due to missed potential 😄

[arctic grove]

steam shows 17k rn

pretty good tbh

[gritty cypress]

its cross platform so consoles are there too

[arctic grove]

yh

[acoustic seal]

if you're in EU you'll find lobbies, NA is harder and SEA is empty

[arctic grove]

so would u recommend me get the elite edition? or just the base game

[arctic grove]

yh im EU

[naive ember]

Stop lying kid

NA is the best

[acoustic seal]

do you spend all day looking here for opportunities to be a dipshit or what

literally every single time i'm in here

[naive ember]

Looks who's upset bud

[arctic grove]

so u didn't say

should i get elite edit or just standard edition

[naive ember]

Didn't mean to hurt your feelings

I was chill until you wanted to start spreading lies and make us NA look bad

[arctic grove]

what are the things i be missing from elite edition

[robust vapor]

just skins nothing much

standard is just fine

[arctic grove]

are they premium?

[robust vapor]

somewhat

[gritty cypress]

yeah, NA dont need any help looking bad :p

[arctic grove]

alr

thx

[naive ember]

I love how you EU players come over and get rekt

[gritty cypress]

that never happened, we always win

[arctic grove]

word word lil bro wait until i install the game

[glass imp]

nah AN got the best players no cap

[arctic grove]

AN 💀

[glass imp]

fr

[naive ember]

[arctic grove]

mb

[robust vapor]

AN 💀

[arctic grove]

about the game's longituvity

will get updates and sh?

[acoustic seal]

support ended already

[arctic grove]

no update/events?

[acoustic seal]

there are a couple random balance patches that get thrown out but content is long done

[fickle wharf]

smoll events for holidays i guess

[arctic grove]

and battle pass?

[acoustic seal]

gone

[arctic grove]

u say there be no bps in future?

is this a valid information

[acoustic seal]

they made up a short one for halloween with leftover skins and might do it for christmas

[arctic grove]

i jus want to play for the achievements so

idrc tbh

does in-game store gets discount s often?

i am concerned cuz ion wnna waste 100GB on my 1tb SSD man

[fickle wharf]

black friday sale right now and the store gets random discounts on bundles too sometimes

[worthy schooner]

ssds are cheap ngl, you could get a new one for $50

maybe less

[arctic grove]

i could find $5 front of my doorstep it has nothing to do with the price

[robust vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7DU6kKjB7g

Dozer: Am I a joke to you?

[arctic grove]

missed the opportunity get 1 skin the black guy with leather gloves

[fickle wharf]

[acoustic seal]

too little too late tbh

[arctic grove]

watching rn thx for sharing

[robust vapor]

not my vid dw

[robust vapor]

enjoy dozer albeit I t1ed him long ago

[acoustic seal]

oh i meant the dozer changes

im surprised anyone is still covering 2042 at all

least of all ghostgaming lol

[gritty cypress]

still a few, ghost, jackfrags, brokenmachine, squid g, cadwoman... and those are just the ones I watch lol

but for sure, not all of them jump on every bit of news

[arctic grove]

so we get nerfs and winter event for end of this year

nerfs kills games

stupid devs

[acoustic seal]

oh believe me, dozer nerfs were very long overdue

they didn't go far enough

[robust vapor]

TBM and SquidG on top

shouldn't have added APS to wildcat ngl L devs

[arctic grove]

any word on the new BF game

[robust vapor]

next year october

[arctic grove]

test?

or initial release

[robust vapor]

likely

test

let them cook bruh

[arctic grove]

i see

[robust vapor]

at least better than 2042

[arctic grove]

i will get this 2042 anyway

[robust vapor]

during discount? hell yeah

full price? hell naw

[arctic grove]

yh

[acoustic seal]

likely launch window is fall 2025, they're copying the warzone model of having a separate battle royale, the key art looks suspiciously AI-assisted, 4 studios are working on it (why?), vince zampella is in charge for whatever that's worth

and i guess they plan to do wider playtesting than with 2042, but there's a long history of ignoring playtest feedback dating all the way to bf1 incursions

[arctic grove]

i mean the way i see it seems like COD been copying BF man, i never played any of COD games, BF hits different fr

i hope the new BF will turn out good 👍🏻

[acoustic seal]

i'll believe it when i see it

[arctic grove]

anyway thx for all the infos

[naive ember]

Wym?

[arctic grove]

i meant previous titles

[worthy schooner]

the omni movement looks different though

it looks fun

[acoustic seal]

it doesn't matter, you get 0ms tracked by aim assist in 8 directions instead of just 4

the gameplay is just not legitimate and hasn't been for years

[worthy schooner]

wdym by not legitimate

[chilly jacinth]

Inhuman reactions

[acoustic oar]

Is the conquest 2042 close combat playlist with haven and reddacted gonna return at some point?

[acoustic seal]

the built-in aimbot that controller players get is impossible to fight against

that's why you see all the CDL "pros" on roller

[chilly jacinth]

Controller has been the standard for them since forever ago

Since cod4 afaik

[acoustic seal]

yeah and in the age of forced crossplay, they're still opting to use roller on pc

[chilly jacinth]

Totally a mystery why they would opt to use a controller on pc

[worthy schooner]

but isnt the mouse faster than the roller

also whats stopping me from just connecting a controller to my pc and then still using kb+m

[remote kiln]

1: 2042 doesn't work with 2 inputs connected at once the game will fry itself
2: contrary to what he's saying AA in both work differently, BO6 has rotational aim assist nerfed at close range compared to older titles and 2042 is less severe, instead they get their own recoil patterns, so if you try to switch between them in this game you will screw your muscle memory because kbm/controller don't have the same recoil control
3: it's just much more effective in cod than this franchise because everything is much more close quarters so it's felt to a much more significant degree

SBMM in COD also plays a statistical bigger factor because if you're anywhere good at the game you're going to come across players who are abusing AA than not with lower skill brackets

to be frank if you're complaining about AA in this game you're probably not even that good to begin with and the point is rendered mute since 2042 90% relies on visual recoil which you can bypass with a few buttons very easily

[worthy schooner]

i don’t think i’ve ever had a problem with aim assist though

it’s a crutch for controller to even the playing field right?

any good player with mouse can have similar aim

[short radish]

Sometimes

[chilly jacinth]

Afaik they reverted that aim assist change they did in bo6

[remote kiln]

no it was never reverted

[remote kiln]

depends on your target audience, for COD it's not so much to level the playing field as it is to give very bad players an elevated sense of perceived skill, flatten it essentially, the problem is once you figure that out and use 2 braincells it becomes very easy to abuse

battlefield statistically has a bigger (minority) playerbase playing on pc than cod so they don't need to do it as much

[chilly jacinth]

No they definitely changed it from 0 AA to lower AA at closer range

[remote kiln]

it was never 0 AA in bo6

it was tested in the open beta, not at release

[chilly jacinth]

Exactly

[remote kiln]

yeah what happens in an open beta is essentially non applicable, testing of everything goes on

more or less just boils down to money and what your objectives are, Activision have a much more "casual" audience who don't stick with the franchise aka are mobile in terms of what they play than this franchise does and as such retention becomes the top priority, because they get more money and it looks good for the game, which is where tools like over abusive AA and SBMM are used to begin with

[mighty moat]

Has anything new been added to portal?

[short radish]

Depends when you last were on

Right now there is battlefield world tour and something else

[mighty moat]

i last played like last year

[short radish]

Oh

There is battlefield 3 mon ami

Which is on rotation which I really liked

[mighty moat]

wasnt batlefield 3 in the game though?

[short radish]

Yea

[mighty moat]

right

so not exactly anything new?

[short radish]

Not exactly no

[mighty moat]

i wanted to go back and play battlefiend 3

but it seems portal might be the only way

[mighty moat]

do you know how many bf3 guns are missing?

[mental delta]

Huh most of the gun's game lol

Portal is basically a demo of free trial for 3 previous entries of the BF franchise

It only features 2 maps for each game with like 15 guns

[arctic grove]

what you suggest as a title for the next battlefield game?

[spare quest]

[arctic grove]

but it is said the year takes place 2027-30

[spare quest]

so what

[arctic grove]

2043 ain't even close man

it should be simply called "Battlefield"

[worthy schooner]

13 years is close enough

[vocal tusk]

2042 the game is past the year 2047 already, timeline wise.

[worthy schooner]

did they ever teach you in school to round to the nearest 13

[arctic grove]

technically yes

but report says game's year takes place somewhat around 2027 to 2030

[worthy schooner]

just call it battlefield 6 or something

[fickle wharf]

not related to 2042 story at all

[quiet shell]

All the launch maps are set in the year 2042
Each season map is set between 2043 and 2048

Battlefield 6 is reportedly set in 2030

[vocal tusk]

Reports? It literally starts in 2042

? What like

[arctic grove]

true, it's not like 2042 has any stories afaik

[fickle wharf]

[spare quest]

[fickle wharf]

he doesnt know

[arctic grove]

it is said the story is about some group raw dog against NATO

[vocal tusk]

Would suggest reading this if you'd prefer to be more informed in the timelines

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/the-world-of-battlefield-2042/how-we-got-here

[arctic grove]

like i said bro (afaik) i don't try to debate or anything

[vocal tusk]

It's not a debate, nor a report. This is how it is haha

Just making you aware

[arctic grove]

so you mean the next battlefield it is set in 2040?

[vocal tusk]

We know nothing about the next games time line

[arctic grove]

gamespot says it is set in 2027 bro

[vocal tusk]

Modern era is all that's known

Gamespot lies often for clicks. Don't trust anything other than official news

[arctic grove]

i see

[tawny carbon]

Modern era can be 10 years ago. To 20 years in the future from rn in 2024

Just a simple big range. No dates or anything about timeline has been said about next BF game officially by Dice/EA.

[chilly jacinth]

Game is set in 2143

I saw it in a dream

[tawny carbon]

How?

[vocal tusk]

They fell asleep and saw images in their head.

[tawny carbon]

BF2042 timeline is currently 2050 sum or further rn but started in 2042

[arctic grove]

so gamespot lies and shit?

even about the story?

[vocal tusk]

I doubt anything from 2042s lore will carry over to the next game. Especially when the events of 2042 started in 2031.

I mainly hope they abandon the bf3/4 timeline and characters and make something new.

[arctic grove]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.gamespot.com/articles/battlefield-6-release-date-trailer-news/1100-6526583/%23:~:text%3DCall%2520of%2520Duty%253F-,When%2520will%2520the%2520new%2520Battlefield%2520be%2520released%253F,and%2520Battlefield%25202042%2520(2021).&ved=2ahUKEwjGqciJ2oSKAxVOHNAFHbdpKyQQFnoECBUQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2xUkhYA4I_vkvL3-bzjtk2

[spare quest]

nice virus

[arctic grove]

trust

paste it in virustotal

[vocal tusk]

Gamespot know about as much as you do. Anything they post on is pure speculation.

The only legitimate info on the next game is all here: https://www.ign.com/articles/exclusive-first-battlefield-concept-art-revealed-vince-zampella

[arctic grove]

u trust ign but not gamespot?

ign that give Veilguard 9/10

alr man

[vocal tusk]

Well this is an exclusive interview Vince zampella (the guy incharge of the Battlefield franchise ) did with IGN. So yes I'll trust it.

[mighty moat]

honestly, battlefield needs a refresh so i wouldnt mind

[naive ember]

Next Battlefield 10/10 ez

Ign

[eager spire]

something something games journalists bad

[hard jay]

Calling them journalists is hilarious

Please stop being a contrarian

[naive ember]

They're gamers

[vocal tusk]

More like technological vultures.

[frozen loom]

I get the manifest map more often than not.

I enjoy the map, but c'mon. I haven't seen orbital map on conquest 64 in ages.

[vocal tusk]

Not played manifest in ages myself. I get renewal often. I like that map at least.

[short radish]

It barely has a story

Anyway

[eager spire]

2042's story is "climate change happens but we still have enough resources to make like, slightly futuristic weaponry and technology, there's also something about a satelite, i donno"

like i would think that a massive ecological event that's enough to displace like, millions of people would disrupt military and technology supply chains a bit but apparently that's just not an issue

[placid parrot]

how do i become a member?

nevermind

[eager spire]

yeah you already figured it out

you joined the server

:V

[placid parrot]

i didnt have the member role when i did my other roles so i was confused

and i was thinking i needed it to use the #screenshots-and-clips channel

[frozen loom]

I also keep getting Exposure.

That's just vehicle infested

[gritty cypress]

I had one round on redacted earlier, it was great

[verbal meteor]

dude where is the conqest 128 and the six cercles of hell event?

[spare quest]

the event ended

[verbal meteor]

and the conqest?

[spare quest]

idk

[spare quest]

https://x.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1862457550140318013

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) on X

Thank you all for your thoughts and feedback around Conquest Forever on #Battlefield2042, this week's playlist option that merges both Conquest 128 and Conquest 64 in a single playlist.

This is a temporary playlist, with Conquest 128 and Close Quarters Conquest (Stadium,

Twitter · Nov 29, 2024, 11:24 AM

[kindred flint]

fucking stealth heli piece of shit going like 114-2 and the match isnt even over

how many fucking lis missiles do i need to miss

[spare quest]

skill issue

[kindred flint]

basically because i dont cheat the movement speed for the missile

but also that thing is a piece of broken shit on exposure

[frozen loom]

How would you cheat it?

[spare quest]

is the pilot spamming bombs from max height

[kindred flint]

i passed through it multiple times though i dont understand how the fucking hitbox didnt catch the missile

you can crank your sense up on PC to make the missile super controllable vs what console players deal with

but no the dude was just farming bomb kills like in the entrance to the tunnel

[dusty elm]

Imo new games should not be made or created unless there is major progress in graphics & performance that people can notice clearly. Right now gaming companies are releasing the same new game every 3 to 4 years.

[spare quest]

always fun when the missile flies through a heli or literally bounces off and changes direction

[kindred flint]

and i was in 2 transports that just straight up let the MG kill us like wtf guys pay attention

lolll i tried to missile a sniper the other day and the rocket bounced off the ground...like dude what is this broken netcode bullshit here

[spare quest]

[kindred flint]

but yeah, keep wasting my time with rush xl

joined and the team already lost the first defense, and half of the 2nd phase...so i should have known they would end up losing the outer final defense point super easy, the farming stealth didnt help

totally worth just alt f4ing out of that shit though

[vocal tusk]

Rush XL is not meant for actual compelling gameplay lol

Rename it to cluster fuck gadget grind XL

[worthy schooner]

i hate how all the vehicles are always taken 😭

i have yet to beat anyone else to the jump for the fighter jets

[spare quest]

some pilot mains use macros to spawn on air vehicles good luck

[vocal tusk]

Or they just sit there waiting to use them, and only them.

Fair enough I guess. Entitled to use a vehicle they like.

[kindred flint]

rush xl is the pinnacle of stupidity

128p in 1 tiny section of a map, and the servers die almost every time

[kindred flint]

a screeching aussie perhaps?

[spare quest]

there was a time where the servers were actually fine in rush xl

[kindred flint]

yeeeah thats not the case anymore

[royal trail]

I think ive always got rubberbanding in full rush xl servers

Since release

[arctic grove]

wouldn't be cool to have 1 battlefield game and keep updating instead of releasing a new one every couple of years?

just like Apex

waste of resources fr

[reef cedar]

no cuz it's ea

releasing 2 $60 games a year is like cods and battlefields whole schtick

[arctic grove]

but they won't lose much doing it this way

[naive ember]

never lose

[vestal kraken]

Why they ruin 128p with this map mix...ughh...

[vital quail]

Bro is not cooking

[arctic grove]

cooking isn't manly job

[naive ember]

This guy

Wym

[vocal tusk]

Would be cooler to have a good Battlefield that's polished at launch more than once a decade.

[arctic grove]

nah, look at Apex, Fortnite they do just fine without releasing any newer version of their game

[vital quail]

Yeah because they are f2p filled with microtransactions

????

[arctic grove]

true, they should do the same

[vital quail]

.

[vocal tusk]

Apex was a fluke, fortnite has a mega Corp backing it, as well as foreign investors like Tencent. It's also a fucking mess of a game, which I surely hope Battlefield takes no inspiration from.

[arctic grove]

just saying bro

[vocal tusk]

Just saying what? Nothing statements that don't actually mean anything?

Saying things just to say things like

[acoustic seal]

bf2025 is gonna suck ass, let's not even pretend

no lessons will be learned for the third time in a row

[vocal tusk]

Battlefield as a franchise isn't big enough, or beloved enough to do what fortnite and Apex did. It being a preexisting franchise limits it more than benefits it when compared to the likes of Apex and fortnite. Players expect certain things, versus expecting nothing as was the case with the others.

[arctic grove]

you don't need special powers to understand that, it's not math it's simple 2+2=4 Fortnite is free Apex is free yet flooded by daily gamers and crazy incomes

[vocal tusk]

Apex makes so much they need to increase the pass price just to stay afloat

Sure

[royal trail]

A free br mode to compete with warzone and attract people to the maingame could work

[arctic grove]

and yet BF 2042 is selling %90 off

almost begging for players

[vocal tusk]

Yes, at end of life

[arctic grove]

end of life?

[vital quail]

Imagine actually advocating for a game to be filled with microtransactions like people actually want it

[arctic grove]

i dnt mind

i can afford

[acoustic seal]

that's a no-win scenario, either it succeeds and siphons people off from the main game, or it dies instantly and it was a waste of dev time

[royal trail]

Aslong as the microtransactions dont bring an advantage i dont see the problem

[acoustic seal]

it's also exactly what theyre doing right now lmfao

[royal trail]

But id rather have paid dlcs like earlier if it would mean more content , like back in the day

[worthy schooner]

yipee

[worthy schooner]

i might do that once or twice i just wanna fly for a bit

unless theres bot matches i can start and just fly around in

[vocal tusk]

I genuinely only play a vehicle if someone on opposing team is dominating to a point that it's affecting g match outcome. Aside from the brawler, there isn't a vehicle I enjoy using for an extended period.

All the helis are TGM bait, tanks have terrible offense and due to map design, lack the ability to escape from a fight, or lack enough armor to defend itself even against 2 engineers for more than 30 seconds.

Plus they are C5 magnets for the 10 specialists who can carry it.

The brawler feels like it has the armor MBTs should have.

As an engineer I play Lis. Every tank I see I can easily kill in about 3 seconds once in range. I usually run towards them for easy kills. Compare that to a brawler which I'll actively avoid, or try to damage with my TGM before engaging.

[kindred flint]

man its amazing how trash over 30 players on a team can be in a large match

constantly watching your team not being able to hold 2 seconds on kaleidoscope is astounding

[vocal tusk]

Sounds like you need a ranked mode with SBMM 😆

[worthy schooner]

i like crashing planes

[kindred flint]

i think i just need to start drinking

after i was 40-8 with 10 caps i decided to alt f4 again, easier than dealing with that

[vocal tusk]

Only way that will ever be avoided in a casual game like BF, with matchmaking as it exists. It's both a blessing and a curse.

[kindred flint]

i have no issues leaving matches constantly or the game entirely, theres nothing left to unlock so whats the point

[vocal tusk]

Seems like sore loser mentality to me, but to each their own.

If you aren't enjoying g the game, outside of when winning, maybe you need a different game.

[kindred flint]

when teammates are actively fighting against you, in the objective game mode, i dont feel the need to sit around and lose the rest of the match with them, already wasted 15 minutes trying to play

[vocal tusk]

It's just a poor game for even learning, or teaching a player how to get better tbh.

At least in older games, players would play some rounds for some hours with a good player, maybe add them, play again and get better. That doesn't exist in 2042 tho due to constant lobby disbanding.

A solo player is likely to always remain a solo player due to this games design

[kindred flint]

people just want to be dumb/bad, i can only stomach it for so long

[worthy schooner]

i’m a solo player because none of my friends play bf2042

or at least the ones i like

[vocal tusk]

I don't think they do, most player want to be good, just don't know how.

[worthy schooner]

idk solo queueing feels like it’s more popular now

[kindred flint]

my number 1 mandate for the next BF game would be every roof is a literal pyramid so no one can sit up there

[vocal tusk]

Or most players dont even know they are bad. Or even have the awareness to know what to do or not to do in a game mode, and why something they don't do makes them bad.

Aka... Stay on the objective in breakthrough, not stand 5 feet outside of it or chase off objective kills when defending.

[kindred flint]

BT/ similar modes are even worse

theres less total area to even play in, and still people manage to not play the objective

[vocal tusk]

Lots of the issues are the maps tho imo. They don't largely have fun objectives or sectors. Because of all maps having all modes, no map is perfect for a particular mode, and all modes suffer for it.

[kindred flint]

BF maps remaining largely bad, a time honored tradition at this point

[vocal tusk]

I really enjoy control because of how large they make the capture zones. Like on Valparaiso for example, it's so much more fun to have expanded capture area on the flag areas.

[kindred flint]

that wasnt the worst experience ever at least

[vocal tusk]

Allows both infantry and vehicles to have more impact, as you have more space to move, but also stay on the objective.

[kindred flint]

until you get down to the last cap and its down to the wire...but your teammates are off doing whatever

[gritty cypress]

frontlines was pretty good too, forces folk to play the active objective

[vocal tusk]

Control should remove vehicle spawning 60 seconds into the last sector.

[gritty cypress]

idk why ppl like control

its just power creep

winners get more points

get more vehicles

[vocal tusk]

Spend your points or lose them, a battle of attrition at the end.

[gritty cypress]

yes, but.... your teammates

[kindred flint]

interesting concept with the caps moving around

[vocal tusk]

Not just a shitstorm of vehicle and explosive spam as it is now.

[kindred flint]

but yeah bad teams obviously impact the round

which goes for everything

[gritty cypress]

portal could've resolved all these issues, could've had the community come up with fun modes... but unfortunately, they really bungled it

like how hard is it to have a halo-style custom match thing, not some psuedo code that noone wants to use... which console players have to find a damn PC to use

and how hard is it to let players point at a map and go... flag A goes here, flag B goes there, spawnpoint there, etc etc

but nah man, we get a trickle of dice made modes and any fun modes are lost in the clusterfuck that is the portal server list

anywho... think I'll play some 2042 🙃

because thinking about game design in today's landscape is too painful 😂

[remote kiln]

[eager spire]

BF Portal would've been a good idea if the community was better.

but they're not.

The BF community are the last people that should have that much control over how a gamemode works.

Because you just get XP farms or people trying to make the game more "tactical" and "realistic"

[vital quail]

Afghanistan war simulator 1000% damage

[eager spire]

because they can't hang with how the game operates normally.

[eager spire]

10000% damage no bullet drop tactical hardcore realism ukraine war

most BF players could not design interesting gamemodes if they tried

the fact that the most popular modes are like "Rush But We've Stuffed 128 Players Into It And It Doesn't Run Properly Ever" just showcases the lack of creativity here.

[lone cobalt]

Why sometimes whenever im in a party with my friends, some of them join a game and the others stay on the menu?

And then it says waiting for party leader to select a game?

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

game broke

doesn't work properly

[lone cobalt]

lol

a game 3 years old

[eager spire]

yup

[gritty cypress]

there was probably a tooltip 3 menus in that flashed on screen for 0.2 seconds that you missed which im sure explains everything clearly 🙂

[lone cobalt]

me?

[gritty cypress]

no me

I am that tooltip

[lone cobalt]

i was asking if you were talking to me lol

im trying to join a game with a friend and i always get thrown to the main menu

while they join the game

[eager spire]

Pro Tip: Parties don't work sometimes. We don't know why. If you know, apply for a job at ea.com/careers.

I'm convinced every issue 2042 still has is just shit that DICE does not know how to fix

[gritty cypress]

sorry, the person who worked on that has either left the company or is on a different project now 😦

(I assume)

[real gyro]

This sale's nice, I wanna get bf2024. But should I spend the extra 13$ for elite?

I heard you can unlock all the stuff through "assignments", are those grindy?

[vital quail]

Not really and all can be done against bots I believe.

[real gyro]

Thank you scott, you're a man of integrity

[rustic wraith]

it keeps the vehicles in the hands of the skilled players and out of the hands of the inexperienced players, which increases intensity of gameplay

[gritty cypress]

i mean, it certainly doesnt lol

[rustic wraith]

sounds like you could put some more hours in to reshape your opinion

[gritty cypress]

lol im playing right now

there is no skill requirement to earn points

[acoustic seal]

i like control because vehicle main cringers have to wait half the round to spawn them

its how vehicles should work in the rest of the game

play the game normally and then you can have your toys

[rustic wraith]

You're right, but better players get more points more quickly, and the less skilled players won't have the points, so more of the vehicles are available rather than simply those which haven't been spawned yet.

It's a similar method to killstreaks in COD except points are earned by PTFO.

Very well reflected upon

[gritty cypress]

theres no need for such mechanics, just put a queue system in for vehicles, make sure everyone gets a turn

but its well past that being a thing lol

[rustic wraith]

That takes the competitive aspect out of it

[eager spire]

Points are earned by PTFO

is killing part of PTFO

[gritty cypress]

competitive vehicle spawning? no thanks

[vital quail]

There are too many instances of people i see spawn in a heli or jet and instantly nosedive and crash

[rustic wraith]

This is the game, I've explained my perspective, take it or leave it.

Play another game if you don't like it.

[gritty cypress]

lol i dont play control

[eager spire]

hey beats

[gritty cypress]

easy

[eager spire]

can you answer the question i asked real quick

i need to get a better impression of you

[acoustic seal]

the combined arms game sucks, that's why everyone played metro/lockers/redacted

[gritty cypress]

it doesnt have to suck, there could be a lot more separation of the play spaces of ground/air/infantry

[eager spire]

like, when someone brings up PTFO, I have to ask if killing the enemies counts as Playing The Fucking Objective. It's a good litmus test for if their opinions are worth listening to.

[gritty cypress]

you have to kill the right enemies 😂

[eager spire]

Does killing the enemies count as Playing The Fucking Objective?

I can see 'em being online on Desktop, they're seeing the question.

[gritty cypress]

also, on vehicle spawning... remember when they used to spawn on the map? 🙂

and capping certain flags got you more of them

[eager spire]

yeah, but that got scrapped in favor of having every vehicle on all the maps all the time

Really interesting how he is choosing to not answer the question.

[worthy schooner]

i thought playing the objective just gave you exp

i didn’t know points were a thing

[gritty cypress]

only in certain game modes

[rustic wraith]

@eager spire Nobody, including myself, needs to respond to the inquiries of anyone else, especially if its through a social media platform, where people can hide their true persona behind gamer tags and handles.

[eager spire]

Okay but it's a simple question.

Does killing the enemies count as Playing The Fucking Objective

this is not a difficult question to answer, i'm not asking for any personal information.

[rustic wraith]

Your message history, and the tone you've chosen to use, indicates to me that you're seeking conflict.
Particularly, perhaps, because you suspect my answer will be different than your opinion.
So I'm choosing to not answer your question because of the energy you're presenting behind it.
No matter how "simple" the question is,
I don't find the conversation worthwhile to engage in.

Thank you for your interest in my opinion.

[eager spire]

I mean, it's not really a matter of opinion, really.

I just wanted to get an idea of the kinda person that's talking right now.

and I find that's a good way to do so.

[rustic wraith]

You have our message history to use instead.

[vocal tusk]

Yes, it's the means through which players can effectively PTFO

[eager spire]

it's not that hard, literally a yes or no question.

[vocal tusk]

Same way healing and resupply, which leads to kills, which leads to more effective PTFO. Kills are the main thing that affects a win. Kills on, or near an objective

[gritty cypress]

but what of the backcap on unmanned objectives?

[eager spire]

You still have to defend those objectives when the enemy notices that you're backcapping.

[vocal tusk]

You'll usually need to kill at least 1 player who'll spawn and defend it.

[eager spire]

Which requires killing them.

[gritty cypress]

fair

[vocal tusk]

Don't kill them, they'll kill you, or try, or have a squad mate who will spawn on them... Who will try to kill you and your team/squad.

All the while existing on the objective, stopping you from capping it.

[rustic wraith]

On the scoreboard, in breakthrough or conquest, in Battlefield 2042, what does a player receive the most points for?

What about Rush?

[vocal tusk]

Sector captures, but what you get more for as a single action rarely is what actually give you your most score.

It gives the most reward to push players more towards doing that thing. However a player is more likely to get a higher score from assists and revives than captures, as an example.

[ionic shuttle]

🤟

[gritty cypress]

🤙

[rustic wraith]

I see what you're saying, and I understand the perspective you have.

The tactics of the battle and flow of battle are somewhat holistic, and hard to measure quantitatively. Usually I notice it by how annoying that Nightbird pilot is, or perhaps that TOR sniper killing all the friendly vehicles.

What this does, however, is very clearly defines, in precise numbers, what the developers have decided is the most valuable action a player may do.

To the extent that they have put an exact score to it in contrast to other actions in game:
Healing is 1 point. Revives is 10 points, Kills are 10 points, Assists are 5 points, Objective captures are 15 points, ammo resupply is 1 point, Repairing a vehicle is 1 point, Deaths are 0 points, Killing friendlies is -15 points.

So on a conquest match if you drive around in a LATV-Recon and cap non-populated objectives all match, it is possible you will have a higher score than someone with many kills. and consequently you may be causing the battle to be won.

We've all seen the medics inspired by hacksaw ridge who actively choose not to kill enemies, and instead focus only on revives, to my experience, they are frequently very high on the leaderboard.

[eager spire]

Drive around in a LATV-Recon and cap non-populated objectives all match

that's not a realistic scenario in an actual match though, it's highly unlikely that someone would be able to do that all game with no resistance.

[vocal tusk]

Not really true in practice tho. A player driving around randomly capturing may do as much harm as good.

[vital quail]

I mean using the pondhawk would make it realistic tbh

[eager spire]

Eventually, kills are going to happen. That is a natural part of playing the objective in a battlefield game, because there always people that are going to try to stop you from capturing an objective.

Killing players is just as much a part of playing the objective as capturing a flag.

[rustic wraith]

You are seeking conflict.
Whatever upsets you, resolve it elsewhere.

You're right though, I much prefer to do it in a CAV.

The developers have laid it out in a clear metric with points assigned to actions. this is the only justification anyone needs.

[eager spire]

I am discussing the question and your viewpoint.

[vocal tusk]

A player is better off to do a blend of capturing, killing and reviving. Making sure they keep sector majority, but also owning specific sectors is more key than others.

[eager spire]

Which i frankly disagree with.

[rustic wraith]

I have been very precise with my language, I am using the point metric created by the developers.

I'm okay if we have differing opinions, are you?

[eager spire]

Are you saying that the developers don't view killing the enemies as part of playing the objective?

[vestal kraken]

@steep wagon I really dislike this conquest mix...Can't even fill 128p now, its all AI matches! If I wanted to play 64p conquest there's always that option to choose, now it just ruins the 128p. Just my feedback on this...

[naive ember]

You are seeking conflict.

[vocal tusk]

As always

[kindred flint]

oh god bad team on redacted

[eager spire]

I don't think it's a matter of opinion, really.

[vocal tusk]

Black or white, there is no gray

[eager spire]

I think acting like that's not the case is ridiculous.

[rustic wraith]

You may re-read my messages, I've written precisely.

[kindred flint]

someone manged to get A and we couldnt capitalize on it lol.. ended up losing C and A

[acoustic seal]

hey lets look at the steam page for clues

Battlefield™ 2042 is a first-person shooter

[eager spire]

You're implying that according to the points metric created by the developers, that killing players is not a part of playing the objective, because you get less points for doing so compared to capturing a flag or arming an MCOM. I feel like that is a weird perspective to have, and likely one arbitrarily made to make the claim that killing players is not as important to playing the objective seem slightly more reasonable.

[vocal tusk]

Sure, but in practice, a single squad could be very effective in a vehicle like the Brawler, not getting any kills and just 5 manning objective caps all game, getting no kills. It's not the most effective way to play, but it's A playstyle a squad could do, and have it work lol

[eager spire]

Despite the fact that killing players is almost certainly an aspect of playing the objective because it is very difficult to actually play the objective otherwise.

[vocal tusk]

The points metric falls apart when taking into account speed at which other things that gain you score can be achieved.

[eager spire]

Yeah, because you have relatively limited opportunities to capture an objective, plus it takes time to do.

[vocal tusk]

Like reviving 5 players in 10 seconds gets you the same score as capping 3.5 objectives. But takes no effort. But is good for your team (if those 5 players go on to have a positive impact)

[eager spire]

You can kill a lot of enemies really quickly, and even if you're not killing enemies, getting assists doesn't take much effort at all, and neither does healing, reviving, or resupplying teammates, which you can do regardless of your current position, unless you're at the back of the map cosplaying as Chris Kyle on Recon, but if you're doing that, you're actually not contributing anything to the game at all, you might as well not be playing it.

[acoustic seal]

i wish there was an "effective revives" stat

your target needs to not die in the immediate 3-4 seconds and must score at least once

[eager spire]

Effective Revive = If the player that is revived does not die immediately, and manages to get a kill, or assist with capturing an objective

[arctic grove]

why u kept yelling

[eager spire]

who is yelling.

[acoustic seal]

im yelling

im pissing and shitting

[eager spire]

i mean sure i can yell

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[worthy schooner]

can you kill downed players

whenever i get downed the enemy never tries shooting at me

they just run past while i ping them for my team to see

[naive ember]

Seeking conflict

[vocal tusk]

An effective revive can be different, even if that player does nothing other than be a +1 or added destraction on a flag.

[vocal tusk]

Only when downed crawl state is enabled can you finish a killed player and deny a revive.

[arctic grove]

im wondering why is it neccesary to fkn yell ? i mean we can just all just chill no need to fkn get on my nerves

[worthy schooner]

you can crawl?

[vocal tusk]

It's optional on some modes/servers.

[eager spire]

there is an option for it in Portal

it's probably how it works in Hazard Zone.

[arctic grove]

and why are you telling me what to do anyways

[eager spire]

i donno who tf plays hazard zone

[arctic grove]

are u a fkn game expert

[vocal tusk]

The recent Halloween mode hardcore version had downed state crawling enabled for example.

[arctic grove]

you need some logic

[rustic wraith]

@vocal tusk Friend, they're trolling

[arctic grove]

so many crash tubes and sweats on god

[vocal tusk]

I don't care all that much if they are.

[arctic grove]

no

[vocal tusk]

I'm just killing time here

[arctic grove]

not sure

[kindred flint]

that thermal option on the attack choppers gunner is fucking awful on flashpoint

i think its worse than just regular vision

[vital quail]

Same on hourglass

[kindred flint]

its funny how fast they made that cannon overheat compared to how it launched

[patent pivot]

Idk if I have asked this before

What's your favorite BF death cam?

[pine roost]

2042’s without the ping

If you mean the revive cam

[worthy schooner]

one time i got kamikazed

i aspire to do such things

crashing vehicles at high speeds is fun

[void gorge]

When we fire the predator's missile But when we leave the TV Where does the missile go? Why is he practically out of manual control

[mighty holly]

I can show you some kamikaze clips

[worthy schooner]

yes please

im shit at flying planes

i keep getting shot down

oh and helicopters

i cant keep them in the air

[rocky gust]

oh man i saw some ptfo arguments above

always the same thing

[kindred flint]

won a classic valpariso match by 12 points i should not have to have sweated that much.. 20 caps on the scoreboard (10 actual)

love how fast the bc2 ammo box refreshes though, feels nice

[eager spire]

what not being able to answer a yes or no question does to a mf

[rocky gust]

crazy

also please release the dozer nerf update already

better yet, remove the whole thing

[eager spire]

they're not gonna remove dozer unfortunately

[rocky gust]

ikik

[kindred flint]

thanks for reminding me of the corner camping dozer i ran into at the start of a redacted match

ran past is more accurate.. but as soon as i crossed the doorway he meleed me so that was fun, never saw it coming

[rocky gust]

i love hopping to their sides and blasting it

then a little t bag action

[kindred flint]

last one i remember killing, who had the shield out at least, i just shot his shins

i was in a crater or something so it was like perfect height..dumbass is running at me like his footies arent exposed 😳

[bronze basalt]

Nights everyone, someone hera had a little problems about found urs friends in BT2042?