#battlefield-2042
arctic grove
misty briar
modest ivy
still vault
rich bluff
If you have a problem with the mouse freezing, do this, it will temporarily solve your problem. Change the Polling Rate from 1000Hz to 125Hz in the mouse software settings. My mouse is MSI, the name may be different for you.
misty briar
Ye ur pc has aged 5 years since the update
arctic grove
im not doin that
pine roost
that's actually gold
robust vapor
misty briar
waxen dock
My client crashed 5 times in a row after installing the update.. Seems to slightly more stable now...ish
misty briar
urban elk
My client crashed 5 times in a row after installing the update.. Seems to slight...
Cut them some slack, they're just an indie company
fossil herald
remember classic dice quality assurance is make the customers assure the quality of the product
no internal QA
misty briar
fossil herald
been that way for 10+ years idk what else to say
thats just dices way of doing buisness this last decade
waxen dock
remember classic dice quality assurance is make the customers assure the quality...
Yeah, they were like.. No way this game will come out broken
empty lion
its all good, those are just new features.....kekw
fossil herald
my favorite new feature is the textures crashing every 2 games and then stop loading completely leading to black screen at the end of match
or maybe when they quote "accidentally" nerfed the fighter jets afterburner in half
already super weak vehicle, possibly weakest in the whole game
waxen dock
my favorite new feature is the textures crashing every 2 games and then stop loa...
Yes! - The post-round black screen is my favourite too
robust vapor
my favorite feature is looking like his
arctic grove
you playing on xbox?
silver flare
Dice, solve this mouse problem and let's play a game.
robust vapor
PC
waxen dock
my favorite feature is looking like his
WTF is that
robust vapor
WTF is that
ps4 graphics be liek:
fossil herald
dice why did you give us an su57
yak141 would have been so much cooler and would be on par kinda with the f35
cause of hovering
waxen dock
Look how sharp his elbows are..... You could get mad kills with those...
empty lion
might also be that EA workers dont know how to turn pc on so they cant test it before update
mellow wave
anyone with major stuttering with high fps with the new amd drivers?
like when I turn I start to stutter like crazy
fossil herald
its only really worth it to spawn as a jet if your on the US team since not only can you hover but the f35 flight model just feels so much different and better
su57 flight model kinda feels like its always falling out of the sky
makes it hard to do threading the needle maneuvers in the su57
empty lion
like when I turn I start to stutter like crazy
its the latest feature with patch 6.1 event mode
magic thistle
spare pasture
This New mode is one sided as hell
fossil herald
like flying through buildings on kaleidoscope or hourglass, or the rocket on orbital
mellow wave
its the latest feature with patch 6.1 event mode
bro what
fossil herald
f35 blows su57 out of the water on sharp maneuvers
wet plaza
New skins are so bad for real.. only dozer looks decent
mental delta
its only really worth it to spawn as a jet if your on the US team since not only...
I can't play both 
fossil herald
f35 on hover is kinda deadly though in the right hands
the stock cannon shreds infantry faster than the little bird miniguns
only downside is though is if anyone withing 475 meters is playing liz you are dead
empty lion
nom nom nom, vehicles taste so good when burning and crisp, infantry wins always
empty lion
tough most of players dont care to cordinate, but if u got squad who cordinate every vehicle is dead on first sight
mental delta
the stock cannon shreds infantry faster than the little bird miniguns
only downs...
Difficult to aim with minigun on console
It's hard to be precise
robust vapor
lethal bough
100% cpu usage normal?? da fuq
jagged wigeon
my favorite feature is looking like his
i hate this bro
can't buy ps5 to enjoy the new graphics
jagged wigeon
my favorite feature is looking like his
but this is really ps1
deep pecan
is the mouse input gone?
opal compass
nope
quaint vector
spare pasture
two taps all round
Autimatic fireew
empty lion
suprise, like its something new, every season new guns be always broken af and totally op
arctic grove
yes, its almost like no one tests anything
empty lion
i doubt they know even how to turn pc on 😄
arctic grove
okay then
bright canopy
SVK is better further away
VHX is the one that needs tweaking
850RPM no recoil laserbeam
it's the RM68 2.0
empty lion
yeah 2 shot dmr is not broken with zero recoil 😄
arctic grove
sure, you're very correct, its not like mostly everyone thinks its broken, you're not just tryna be controversial for attention surely
but also the VHX is broken too
spare pasture
The New mode Is really frustrating
bright canopy
controversial for attention my ass
Everyone forgets the M39 exists
It shoots faster than the G428
Same damage model or close enough
bigger mag
arctic grove
yes but its not fully auto
arctic grove
okay
bright canopy
The automatic fire mode is useless, gives you more recoil and spread at no real benefit
arctic grove
empty lion
or do u on purpose move mouse to get recoil?
bright canopy
That makes no sense
modest ivy
or do u on purpose move mouse to get recoil?
bright canopy
i swear there's guns more busted than the G428 and nobody remembers they exist
Even the SVD fires at 257 RPM which is close to what the G428 does with the high power rounds
But also has a bigger mag
arctic grove
yes but the m39 has more recoil then what the G428 has on automatic
why bother using that when you can put on auto and two tap everyone
it two taps up to 40m
50m with high power
bright canopy
The M1907 SL Sweeper argument
arctic grove
yeah exactly
arctic grove
but people still prefered the sweeper
arctic grove
dont get me wrong im not disagreeing with you
but literately anyone can run around with the G4 on full auto
makes it broken
bright canopy
Thing with DMRs is most people don't use them, default to the fast firing automatics
SVK is hella good and very few people run it
Same with SVD or the EMR
I don't think DICE will make any changes to the G428 anytime soon solely because most people will just run the VHX
arctic grove
cause people dont wanna click lol
bright canopy
like with the Glock lol
didn't tweak it until everyone started using it
even though they knew it was too good
arctic grove
even though its still pretty strong now lol
bright canopy
yeah just hipfire it lmao
arctic grove
my go to loadout is the ak-24 and the deagle anyways
copper ice
g428 is nutty
290rpm 2hk is already ludicrously good, then it's got a 20 mag and is actually accurate on top
bright canopy
equip some weapon skin that has flames painted on the side and you gain 20 RPM
copper ice
bsv was insane before they kicked it's spread in the ass
still insane but can't do the same total annihilation it was doing before
velvet sand
oh nice, DICE woke up and found out their patch is broken on PC. hopefully they'll ship a fix before the event ends
bright canopy
or before everyone stops playing the game, again
i am begging DICE
fix this before everyone leaves
empty lion
oh nice, DICE woke up and found out their patch is broken on PC. hopefully they'...
dream on, lets see after half year and then maybe 😄
bright canopy
don't even have the issue miraculously but you can already see the player counts dipping
copper ice
nothing like destroying your playerbase 2 weeks after regaining it
bright canopy
really fucking sad to see
velvet sand
get a massive influx of players, ship arguably (reportedly) the worst designed event in 2042. just DICE things
copper ice
dice actually need to nerf c5 even more
copper ice
get a massive influx of players, ship arguably (reportedly) the worst designed e...
yeah i mean this is just proof that they haven't really changed
plain meadow
nerf it on vehicles then
dim crypt
Anyone got fps drops after update
copper ice
it should be nerfed on both vehicles and infantry
plain meadow
it should be nerfed on both vehicles and infantry
why?
it's a high risk high reward item
dim crypt
it's input lag
No not that just in general fps is lower
copper ice
it's not an exploding frisbee
plain meadow
this aint like SPH you can kill people from 300 meters
you actually gotta go in and hopefully not die
copper ice
it's minimal risk with maximum reward, it's the default gadget most of the time due to how much utility it has
plain meadow
limber orbit
on vehicles? 
empty lion
everyone does
nope...fps drops aint related anyway to newest mouse stutter issues
copper ice
it fucks vehicles, it blows up walls, you can toss it round corners to get people
you throw it stupid fast
limber orbit
thats C5
copper ice
no you cant
limber orbit
exactly the same as the other games lol
copper ice
throw around a wall yes, blow it up manually immediately after doing that no
nades also do pish damage to vehicles and walls
bright canopy
i still have no idea how the C5 damage works on infantry
sometimes you get oneshot
limber orbit
its a grenade
plain meadow
if people are smart, then the EMP grenade fucks you over
bright canopy
then you see a C5 blow up next to 3 people and they all take 60 damage max
limber orbit
its not supposed to do damage to walls and vehicles
plain meadow
and with inconsistency
copper ice
i still have no idea how the C5 damage works on infantry
it's super inconsistent ngl but it shouldn't be an anti infantry tool
plain meadow
either it A: kills the entire team or B: it hits them all for 1
copper ice
its not supposed to do damage to walls and vehicles
it's c5; it should be doing damage to both of those
plain meadow
which is bullshit
copper ice
it's literally a shaped charge
copper ice
shaped charges are not designed to be frisbeed towards infantry
you just said it's not supposed to you plonker
limber orbit
i said that about grenades ya doof
bright canopy
well to be fair defibrilators aren't designed to run around and zap people to death with either
plain meadow
I mean, when I throw a C5 on top of 5 people, i expect those 5 to go KABOOM
but it doesn't 80% of the time
for whatever reason
plain meadow
^
plain meadow
What i said it's either gonna kill everyone
copper ice
i do agree the inconsistency is ass
copper ice
i'm tired of autopicking it on every class
too useful in too many scenarios
it's also insanely OP vs vehicles in 2042
limber orbit
3 to kill a tank
tight frigate
Has there been any updates about the mouse sistuation on the game yet?
limber orbit
same as the others
plain meadow
Well, i'd rather use that so i can clear people and push forward then something like a normal grenade or SPH that Iris will take via that trophy system
limber orbit
again what C5 are you using?
bright canopy
Has there been any updates about the mouse sistuation on the game yet?
The update is that they know aobut it
thats it so far
plain meadow
Has there been any updates about the mouse sistuation on the game yet?
They're waiting for the community to figure it out so they can hotfix it that way 
tight frigate
Well i guess that is something. Hopefully it doesn't take weeks to fix. Tried using a controller and hell no. Once you use KB/M controller is garbage IMO
empty lion
better question would be why the hell they did same gadget twice...we got already health/ammo boxes, now we got pouches what do exactly same thing and are still locked only for support class and ouh wait support class got 2 specialist what do exactly same thing, ea/dice totally running out of ideas? 😄
limber orbit
pouches were on a few of the other bfs
i dont see a problem with it?
but apparently you do 
tight frigate
I am glad they brought back the tracker gun from BFBC2 , it's so fun darting stuff up so engineers can blow it up
bright canopy
Pouches are mobile
Health crates only work if you sit around next to them and have a timer
Ammo pouches, however, are useless 
spare pasture
Ammo pouches, however, are useless <:kekw:923336723772080210>
Why use an ammo pouch when you can use a crate that fills gadgets and grenades
bright canopy
Irish and Angel are a lot more fun to play now that they can self heal
copper ice
same as the others
in the others you didn't get 3 when you spawned
spare pasture
Irish ☘️ ammo
copper ice
you got 2
bright canopy
yes
copper ice
mobility in 2042 is also drastically higher than previous games
spare pasture
Does killing zombies count as weapon kills?
Yea
limber orbit
i had 3 when i spawned in bf4
spare pasture
The new modes maps aren’t very well done
bright canopy
Yeah the maps suuuuuuuuck
naive quiver
Great 😅😅 farming zombies
spare pasture
It’s fun trying to get a printer from a spawn that’s a mile away
With enemies waiting to kill and zombies
copper ice
better question would be why the hell they did same gadget twice...we got alread...
health pouches are great, ammo pouches are useless like always
spare pasture
Maybe ammo pouches should get gadget refill after 2 pouches
copper ice
ammo pouch just shouldn't exist
health pouches are great for forcing heals in desperate situations but this is never an issue with ammo
bright canopy
BF1 ammo pouches didn't refill your gadgets until you had full ammo IIRC
copper ice
you can't run out of ammo nearly as fast as health even if you hold the trigger
bright canopy
but they did refill gadgets
spare pasture
Besides it’s not like the throwing range for the ammo crate is short
Or the recharge
frail sandal
Where do I go to Bit-ch about this game?
copper ice
medic crate gets screwed over by always healing even if it's only like 5 damage and then proccing a long timer
opal compass
forum#
copper ice
this is no issue for ammo crate because ammo lasts forever at max and you always want more gadget/nades if you're not at max
copper ice
Where do I go to Bit-ch about this game?
right here
if you mean where do you go to bitch about the game and have someone actually listen to you, hahahaha
that doesn't happen
frail sandal
lol. Ok, what's with the new stutter issue?
spare pasture
Where do I go to Bit-ch about this game?
Here
empty lion
pouches should have lowered amount tick than boxes and should be unlocked for all classes
copper ice
stutter is DICE's way of reducing the playerbase after regaining it
copper ice
they got players back and then were like "ew wtf we have to pay for servers now"
better start another horrible bug that'll make everyone but the stockholm syndromers leave
spare pasture
WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY ACKNOWLEDGING BLACK SCREENS ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR 2 YEARS
empty lion
never
copper ice
they don't acknowledge things they cant fix
empty lion
its not common issue
spare pasture
its not common issue
Is
empty lion
nope
spare pasture
Yes
copper ice
even an issue that affects 1% of players is by definition common when you have this many players
but look at bfv; they don't acknowledge bugs they can't fix
naive quiver
empty lion
what players? 😄 this is dead game when compare bf3/bf4
spare pasture
So we’ll have the black screen for the end of time
spare pasture
https://tenor.com/view/bf2042-gif-24047215
Operation locker moment
ruby citrus
its joever
frail sandal
You would think after 20 plus years, and being a BF supporter for every game this series has had , that they could release something with out all these bugs, This is crazy.
spare pasture
Well I guess I’ll go back to playing algebra
frail sandal
Tetris is looking pretty good about now
copper ice
You would think after 20 plus years, and being a BF supporter for every game thi...
idk why you think they'd release a bf without bugs, it's been consistent with literally every single battlefield
spare pasture
https://i.imgur.com/sxJc9VU.png
Well if you turn 100 to 100 000 people then the game is dead
sullen quarry
BF4 had an even worse bug where you'd be stuck in a loading screen forever
limber orbit
no no
copper ice
i'm convinced the engine is dogshit
limber orbit
dead game
spare pasture
BF4 had an even worse bug where you'd be stuck in a loading screen forever
Same as black screen?
limber orbit
bright canopy
pretty sure BF1 or BF V also had the infinite loading screen thing
spare pasture
i'm convinced the engine is dogshit
The devs aren’t using it well enough
loud holly
stop bro's already dead
frail sandal
not when you purchased a cd and downloaded it
sullen quarry
Same as black screen?
It might occur on your first play, but subsequent plays it will load just fine. 10 year old game btw
spare pasture
pretty sure BF1 or BF V also had the infinite loading screen thing
Haven’t noticed it in bfv/1 but it’s happens frequently in 2042
velvet sand
i'm convinced the engine is dogshit
I'm trying to remember the exact analogy, but there was reporting that working with frostbite was something like "building a sandcastle in a sandbox filled with needles and shards of glass" or something to that effect
copper ice
The devs aren’t using it well enough
it's just notoriously difficult to work with
copper ice
it can do amazing things but good god it is so unbelievably buggy
spare pasture
it's just notoriously difficult to work with
I thought that was the (insert name) engine
That’s hard to work with
Dice should use fox engine instead 
frail sandal
@copper ice I'm an old fart and back in the day you could purchase the cd copy and it would work, or it went back to the store
copper ice
<@1011394572846366812> I'm an old fart and back in the day you could purchase th...
i respect this
spare pasture
I just bought a ps3 copy of bfbc2 in the weekend
frail sandal
I have all the BF games
copper ice
day 1 patches annihilate cd copies of games now
but tbh bf4, bf1, bfv and 2042 all had horrendously buggy launches
and, er, general lifespans
loud holly
gta 5 and its 7 disks. Good memories
frail sandal
lol
copper ice
and star wars battlefront
spare pasture
but tbh bf4, bf1, bfv and 2042 all had horrendously buggy launches
I thought bf1 was the non super buggy launch
copper ice
and its sequel
copper ice
bf1 had a lot of bugs by a standard game of it's era launch, tiny compared to other battlefields or current triple A games
velvet sand
but tbh bf4, bf1, bfv and 2042 all had horrendously buggy launches
Horrendously buggy launches are DICE's specialty : 3
spare pasture
And Bethesda!
spare pasture
BP level 62 <:Hmm:1023439887665463386> <:Hmm:1023439887665463386>
Grassenschlagen
loud holly
BP level 62 <:Hmm:1023439887665463386> <:Hmm:1023439887665463386>
any way to level it quickly?
bright canopy
BF V TTD/netcode on launch
copper ice
insane how long they went without balancing that
bright canopy
spare pasture
battlefront 2 had anakin
Don’t forget 30 hours of ingame time to unlock a hero at launch
copper ice
hey man i loved that ttd
well it got better after launch
but better than the current ttd
naive quiver
any way to level it quickly?
ultimate pass 20 tiers and finished weekly missions
spare pasture
Can we get a ttk that’s like a quarter of a second thanks
bright canopy
yea i just stopped playing BF V on launch for like 3-4 months, came back and it was all good
2042 I stopped playing for 2 years and the netcode is still... uh... ass
copper ice
i didnt buy any of their games on launch because they'd be on sale for 50% off in a week
spare pasture
ultimate pass 20 tiers and finished weekly missions
I don’t care what dice does I am not paying extra for battle passes
arctic grove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTyXC_rdXmE How to fix it? I can't play
frail sandal
I get a kick out of how the optimization in this game sucks so bad, I get higher temps in this game then when I run CinebenchR23 for 30 mins, unbelievable
copper ice
2042 wont stop having shit netcode because it's programmed around having 128p
there's just no way to make that work practically
spare pasture
2042 wont stop having shit netcode because it's programmed around having 128p
Have they thought of doubling the size of their servers?
bright canopy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTyXC_rdXmE How to fix it? I can't play
jesus christ fix what exactly? the gun being invisible, the screen going white on ADS, or the mouse bugging out?
naive quiver
I don’t care what dice does I am not paying extra for battle passes
well don’t have to , still far way to Feb
copper ice
i'd kill for 60 tickrate
spare pasture
bright canopy
2042 wont stop having shit netcode because it's programmed around having 128p
Even if they kick it up to 60hz it'd still require more work on the netcode itself
spare pasture
i'd kill for 60 tickrate
Kill me
loud holly
<:Hmm:1023439887665463386> <:Hmm:1023439887665463386> well don’t have to , still...
did you try the new two tap gun?
bright canopy
BF V was 60hz and you had same issues on launch
spare pasture
BF V was 60hz and you had same issues on launch
Is this game 15 hz
copper ice
i swear to god they lied about bfv being 60hz
bright canopy
45hz
bots are 20hz
like the solo games
try out solo games, 20hz gameplay is hilarious
copper ice
or like, say it's a higher tickrate but then the actual servers can't keep up with it
naive quiver
did you try the new two tap gun?
The two new gun from battle pass ?
well yeah tier 1 already
spare pasture
Feels like they started working on killswitch (new game mode) when the season released
naive quiver
Very good no recoil
bright canopy
Feels like they started working on killswitch (new game mode) when the season re...
See, the event title (Killswitch) is a nifty easter egg for what's happening with the game since update 6.1
copper ice
pump shotgun will always be a dice roll but they at least buffed it up
spare pasture
😡😡😡😡
spare pasture
use the 12M auto shotgun
It was my first T 1 and it and it feels like I’m evil for using it
bright canopy
if you use the 12M unironically you might as well just run aimbot and wallhacks
empty lion
https://i.imgur.com/sxJc9VU.png
wow u finded steam charts, those dont tell shit its just one platform 😄 and didnt talk today comprasion, bf3/bf4 era was way more popular than this
- bf4 have even now more active players than bf2042...peaks dont tell shit when it drops 90% after day 😄
bright canopy
same experience
copper ice
12m got a big nerf this update so it's at least a little worse
naive quiver
Shotgun in redacted is very good
spare pasture
12m got a big nerf this update so it's at least a little worse
Small nerf
loud holly
wow u finded steam charts, those dont tell shit its just one platform 😄 and did...
we already forgot u
copper ice
Small nerf
i can dream...
spare pasture
wow u finded steam charts, those dont tell shit its just one platform 😄 and did...
🧢
I’m not reading that
copper ice
wow u finded steam charts, those dont tell shit its just one platform 😄 and did...
back in the day it was more popular yeah because we had less games back then innit
bright canopy
wow u finded steam charts, those dont tell shit its just one platform 😄 and did...
You are a very confrontational person my good sir/madam/person
empty lion
back in the day it was more popular yeah because we had less games back then inn...
less games? xD
copper ice
the fact is that 2042 isn't as dead as it should be
bright canopy
find where the 2042 servers are hosted and trigger the fire alarm sprinklers
Call it a new community event
copper ice
it's a big poo and it was fucking godawful bug collection you couldn't even call a game on release
bright canopy
copper ice
and yet somehow it still has this many people playing it
bright canopy
"Blackout"
spare pasture
the fact is that 2042 isn't as dead as it *should* be
If it’s not as dead as it should be does that mean it’s as alive as it should be 
remote kiln
https://fxtwitter.com/smk_gaming_/status/1719736283000393848?s=19
related tweet:
copper ice
it should be alive 6 feet under
spare pasture
If it’s alive then that means we have a higher chance of s7/8
bright canopy
If it’s alive then that means we have a higher chance of s7/8
Not for much longer if the input thing isn't fixed
naive quiver
how funny it’s called Xtwitter
spare pasture
i don't want a season 7
😈 I do and you will Like it or im gonna take out the hammer
copper ice
related tweet:
this certainly isn't gonna help anything
pick dmr, ads vaguely next to target, shoot twice while aiming down slightly, rinse repeat forever
naive quiver
For god sake apex legends season 19 already
spare pasture
For god sake apex legends season 19 already
Titan fall 21???
copper ice
dont make me cry about no titanfall 3
remote kiln
spare pasture
spare pasture
💀 Skull 💀
atomic sluice
are the attack helis like the apache and ka 52 worth using now
pearl ridge
They’re nasty
atomic sluice
should i try and get stuff for them or is it not worth it
copper ice
yeah they got hefty buff
spare pasture
Falcon punch!
remote kiln
are the attack helis like the apache and ka 52 worth using now
the attack Heli is arguably the best Heli in the game
copper ice
especially with emp effect changing
spare pasture
Stealth choppy?
copper ice
attack heli used to get mega shafted by losing all it's firepower, now it just kills you while drifting
remote kiln
attack helicopter has 2 tow missiles and gunner 30mm renders stealth DOA
spare pasture
Never again
ruby citrus
i cant even play shit like uncharted and tlou with a controller
let alone an actual mp shooter
spare pasture
Exposure would be more fun if people couldn’t camp on the rock walls
copper ice
i wish it wasn't crossplay
atomic sluice
the stealth heli is too fragile and the nightbird is too complicated for me lol
spare pasture
i cant even play shit like uncharted and tlou with a controller
I can!
atomic sluice
so im prolly gonna do normal attack heli cuz its good
copper ice
victory through superior firepower
spare pasture
What primary is the best for attack helis?
ruby citrus
so im prolly gonna do normal attack heli cuz its good
its great, doesnt get oneshot by lis rockets too
atomic sluice
should i use tow or atg missiles on it
remote kiln
What primary is the best for attack helis?
tow missiles
they are extremely difficult to use compared to dumb fire but much more deadly
spare pasture
What about infantry
remote kiln
that's why you have a gunner
copper ice
tow cant get thermal smoked and shreds vehicles deco is right
the 30mm gunner position on the heli absolutely fucks infantry
spare pasture
that's why you have a gunner
No one’s ever gunner with me
remote kiln
then gunner yourself lol
ruby citrus
the 30mm gunner position on the heli absolutely fucks infantry
yeah the gunner fucks
remote kiln
it's easy to self control
ruby citrus
honestly swapping solo is just so annoying to multitask
same reason i dont like the m5c not having a gunner aim from the drivers seat
copper ice
if you drive around safely for a minute or two someone will hop in the heli, people love helis
ruby citrus
sundances love spawning in helis and immediately bailing*
atomic sluice
sundances love spawning in helis and immediately bailing*
thats what pondhawks are for ong
still vault
Didn't get the mouse issues yesterday, but today I do. Good, now I understand what people are complaining about
atomic sluice
the bugs are slightly annoying
not like they making me crash air vehicles and making me lose fights
empty lion
Didn't get the mouse issues yesterday, but today I do. Good, now I understand wh...
its just new feature, all good
tacit sphinx
tow missiles are in (unless they changed this? idk) the second weapon slot, i'd say the uhh biggest rockets are the best for the first slot
naive quiver
I don’t have any this issue
tacit sphinx
i havent used attack helis in a while though and i know they updated some of the options
pine roost
Yeah I was geninely looking forward to playing today, but after noticing the mouse bugs last night i'm just gonna have to wait it out
tacit sphinx
so i might be outdated
pine roost
the tow missiles are goated on the attack
naive quiver
The black screen appears very often since the update , 4 times so far
atomic sluice
ive never gotten black screen its just the mouse tyhing
still vault
Mouse is weird here, no blackscreens
merry heart
Yeah I was geninely looking forward to playing today, but after noticing the mou...
Yeah it hit me where it hurts when I kept fucking up flanks with the MCS as Paik 😩
sullen quarry
I am contemplating whether to keep grinding cod or do the battlefield event
I'm so close to max rank
naive quiver
Why cod
atomic sluice
cod sucks
spare pasture
<:ChillBar_kek:871279992623996958>
This is also the server that’s off topic 24/7
atomic sluice
needs to get fixed asap
spare pasture
https://tenor.com/view/fishing-rod-snap-cast-fish-fail-gif-17119887
That was codful
Hahahaha asap
still vault
atomic sluice
which asap for dice is 12.7 years
spare pasture
1 week in asap?
spare pasture
atomic sluice
im boutta be an old ass retired man by the itme they fix the bug
still vault
The mouse thing is not the kind of bug I expect to take 1 week to fix
still vault
still vault
They just want hugs, not 2000s
>
spare pasture
<:BF1:562440516558651402> ><:BF2042:852224380380512307>
Coldest take of the century
still vault
its time to reinstall bf4
Seems like a great thing to discuss in #battlefield-legacy-titles - have fun
spare pasture
Is because breakaway
atomic sluice
oh ok
atomic sluice
bf4 has similar vehicles and guns so it is related
spare pasture
Hourglass
atomic sluice
im going to hourglass irl next year
spare pasture
Have fun playing the nonreworked version
atomic sluice
hopefully the sandstorm doesnt hit me
patent path
temporary fix for the mouse thing is to lower your mouse polling rate
atomic sluice
the fuck does that mean
spare pasture
empty lion
The mouse thing is not the kind of bug I expect to take 1 week to fix
yep, it will take atleast 8 months 😄
ruby citrus
the fuck does that mean
basically the amount of times your mouse updates your computer about its movement
spare pasture
So is the next 11 weeks going to be contentless since we got the new mode
atomic sluice
how chang
ruby citrus
temporary fix for the mouse thing is to lower your mouse polling rate
to how much though, if you messed with it
merry heart
Oh so the mouse input bug is caused by the game's anti-cheat?
atomic sluice
oong no cap
merry heart
violet elbow
BF2042 undefined error when trying to host a portal server?
atomic sluice
how do you change the polling rate and what to
patent path
to how much though, if you messed with it
you can go all the way to 125hz or stay as close to your monitor's refresh rate as possible if 125 is too much of a difference for you
open your mouse software, it should let you change your polling rate
atomic sluice
i put it on 125hz now it was in glorious core
violet elbow
Any fix for my situation? Or it's the server
atomic sluice
it feels so weird at 125hz
empty lion
temporary fix for the mouse thing is to lower your mouse polling rate
nope, just make it not to be so obivious
atomic sluice
why does lower polling rate make the mouse move faster
ruby citrus
you can go all the way to 125hz or stay as close to your monitor's refresh rate ...
i got a 60hz monitor so yeah lol
atomic sluice
i got a 165hz monitor should i change rate to 250 would that still fix it
patent path
why does lower polling rate make the mouse move faster
doesn't make it move faster, just "feel" faster
yeah 250 should be fine
patent path
I've been using 125hz since 2021, never going back to 1000hz again lol, waste of cpu power
opal compass
I've been using 125hz since 2021, never going back to 1000hz again lol, waste of...
eh. what
atomic sluice
i bought a keyboard with speed silver switches and the faster response time was not worth it at all lol
opal compass
ruby citrus
eh. what
if i learned anything, every mouse update basically causes an interrupt to occur to update the cpu about its info, so 1000hz is 1000 interrupts a second
patent path
eh. what
gotta squeeze every single frame out of my cpu so I can hit sick flicks in csgo
opal compass
empty lion
gotta squeeze every single frame out of my cpu so I can hit sick flicks in csgo ...
are u running pentium 100mhz or what? 😄
patent path
with games that eat cpu like 2042 or csgo it's still relevant
atomic sluice
i got an i7 11th gen but it still uses 100% on 2042 lol
patent path
are u running pentium 100mhz or what? 😄
i7 10750h
atomic sluice
w
modest ivy
reminds me of this
ruby citrus
i wanted to upgrade for a while but the crypto craze left a permanent scar on the hardware market
cant get anything normal without throwing away like 700 bucks
atomic sluice
i wanted to upgrade for a while but the crypto craze left a permanent scar on th...
i sold my 3080 for 2000 dollars during the crypto boom and then bought another one when it died down
ruby citrus
cuz if im upgrading the cpu then the gpu will be a bottleneck, so may as well get a gpu as well, and i also need a new mobo
atomic sluice
will 500mhz polling rate fix the problem too
empty lion
only casual gamer would think 125hz polling rate is good, seesh...even 1k is horrible when compare 8k
ruby citrus
i sold my 3080 for 2000 dollars during the crypto boom and then bought another o...
stonks
my 1660ti which was 2 years old at the time was worth more used than when i bought it brand new
atomic sluice
i sold a 3060ti for 1000 dollars during the crypto boom
idk why ppl paid so much for that shit
ruby citrus
gullible idiots thinking they discovered a get rich quick scheme
when they all just ran into a decentralized ponzi scheme
atomic sluice
i was the one who got rich quick lol i sold like 10 gpus during that period
still vault
Don't call people that. They were most likely just bored with Covid etc. so even though it was way too expensive it was probably better than not gaming at all.
atomic sluice
it was crazy
ruby citrus
im talking more about the people that bought the gpus specifically for crypto mining
may have came off wrong
the ones that wanted hardware upgrades for gaming/business suffered in the process
atomic sluice
i tried to buy a 3090 during the crypto boom after i sold the 3080 but it was too expensive lol
so i just got another 3080 cuz it was around the same price still
ruby citrus
i want something like a 3060ti and an 8 core processor
but no way im getting that + a new mobo sub 700 rn
ruby citrus
still a trooper but in 2-3 years it will become a problem
alr cant run shit at 1080/60 with fsr 2
atomic sluice
my old 1660s only has one fan and its super loud
ruby citrus
granted, alan wake II is probably the most graphically advanced game ive played ever
atomic sluice
lol
ruby citrus
im shocked it even ran, let alone at 45fps
atomic sluice
yeah the 1660 super is really good for its price still
atomic sluice
if you are okay with used gpus you can get the higher end 30 series for used really cheap rn
patent path
get amd
atomic sluice
like the 3080 and 3070
patent path
rx 7800xt is great value at the moment
ruby citrus
isnt dlss nvidia exclusive
patent path
it's going to be great value for a long while
patent path
you can use fsr 3
atomic sluice
low quality gpus
empty lion
team red always, wont touch garbage intel/nvidia and their ripper prices for nothing
atomic sluice
bros really pulling out console wars but for pc
ruby citrus
im considering grabbing something like a ryzen 7 5800x + a 3060ti
atomic sluice
just let people use what they want
clear zephyr
1660 super gaming
empty lion
im considering grabbing something like a ryzen 7 5800x + a 3060ti
if u just use ur pc just for gaming get x3d model
atomic sluice
i aint never buying from amd again unless they get their shit together
tight frigate
Is BF2042 still brokdid with the mouse stutter?
atomic sluice
the nvidia 40 series is really shitty though
ruby citrus
if u just use ur pc just for gaming get x3d model
oof thats like a 100 dollar difference
empty lion
oof thats like a 100 dollar difference
totally worth if u just play games
its so mutch better for games
ruby citrus
fair, i just dont want to dump too much upfront
may just grab a gpu for now and upgrade cpu + mobo later
atomic sluice
all the times ive gotten stuff from amd it hasnt worked properly
ruby citrus
idg why cpus change sockets every few years while gpus remained on PCIE since forever
empty lion
all the times ive gotten stuff from amd it hasnt worked properly
i can say same about intel and nvidia
nocturne knot
i want something like a 3060ti and an 8 core processor
dont buy 3060ti in 2023
atomic sluice
couple amd gpus over the years cuz i kept trying them and they kept glitching and allat
ruby citrus
dont buy 3060ti in 2023
i mean what other option is there thats relatively new and not 500
atomic sluice
7900xtx prolly gonna be my next gpu if i can get a warranty
nocturne knot
shit ton options. look for it.
atomic sluice
cuz i dont trust amd anymore
empty lion
6900/6950xt is bang for bucks if u can get it somewhere still
better price-value than 7xxx series
nocturne knot
7800xt is 500
youre looking out for 250 bucks gpu bro?
patent path
don't get rdna 2 gpus now, if you can't afford rdna 3 just get intel
nocturne knot
instead of getting a fuckin 3060ti for sure he can get rdna 2
8gig ram card fresh in 2023?
lol
atomic sluice
i wanna buy an intel gpu ngl
patent path
yeah just skip nvidia at the moment, they are very overpriced
ruby citrus
youre looking out for 250 bucks gpu bro?
literally where, just checked ebay and amazon and its all 500+ pricings
atomic sluice
it would be cool to try it out
nocturne knot
literally where, just checked ebay and amazon and its all 500+ pricings
whats ur fuckin budget mate? we cant do shit without a budget
you told me 500 i gave u 500
atomic sluice
next gpu not gonna be nvidia cuz they are overpriced af
ruby citrus
I was hoping to get a gpu+cpu reasonable upgrade under 700 basically
atomic sluice
should i buy an intel gpu to try it out lol
ruby citrus
i said it before
atomic sluice
i hear they are really good
empty lion
8gig ram card fresh in 2023?
yep, u need shit-tons vram already today games and just wait for future games in few years, 8gb aint cutting anymore
patent path
i hear they are really good
they are really good now, if you plan to play games in 1080p or 1440p
nocturne knot
I was hoping to get a gpu+cpu reasonable upgrade under 700 basically
get a proper cpu platform for 700 bucks and upgrade the gpu next year
you aint getting a proper combo for 700
atomic sluice
im suprised intel made gpus
ruby citrus
probably true
atomic sluice
and that they are good too
graceful viper
any word on a patch for that mouse bug?
pine roost
don't you need to be in a public match to progress mastery
nocturne knot
probably true
what you have now
ruby citrus
what you have now
i7 7700 + 1660ti
clear zephyr
does it work vs ai if its norm match or have to spot real players
chilly jacinth
it works if theres AI in a normal match
ruby citrus
4 core cpu is already getting really tight
nocturne knot
i7 7700 + 1660ti
upgrade your cpu platform to 7800x3d with proper mobo and good ram. lower down the graphics and enable FSR. upgrade your gpu next year
clear zephyr
ok thanks
atomic sluice
but i prolly dont need to upgrade for a while cuz i got a 3080 and its doing well rn
nocturne knot
1660ti you can get by with FSR and low graphics
if ur cpu gapped ur just fucked.
gpu gap you can always lower down the graphics
tight frigate
Might just get a used 1080 ti off ebay for around 100$ , more ram/faster card. No warranty though.
tight frigate
already , 1080ti is basically a 3060 ti without dlss
ruby citrus
i mean if the price diff isnt that big may as well get the rtx card for rt + dlss
but yeah $100 sounds like a steal
if it isnt too used
but given its $100 odds are its been bullied for years
empty lion
not worth to buy lower tier card for RT
tight frigate
Well Raytracing is mostly trash in majority of games . Dlss on the other hand is very useful on games that are not coded good like starfield.
empty lion
if u want to enjoy of RT with good fps u need top of the line product
ruby citrus
the 4000 series is insanely expensive right now, a 4080 costs more than my entire rig currently honestly
at what point do i just go "lmao just buy a console and get game pass"
tight frigate
Sadly a 4080-4090 cost more then some beater cars that still run just look ugly. So you can either spend money on car or card lol
ebay has some 3060 ti for 200$ , is that a good deal? I mean it's a decent card for 1080p right?
empty lion
Sadly a 4080-4090 cost more then some beater cars that still run just look ugly....
what, isnt that just the point that car look like sleeper and drops sport/super cars on the line to eat dust 😄
arctic grove
How’s the situation on PC?
tight frigate
if you use controller fine / mouse is still janky
arctic grove
empty lion
hmnnn...could i trick game think my mouse is controller since it got joystick 😄
tight frigate
Could def. give it a shot.
drowsy shuttle
im guessing the msi afterburner is not in the EA anticheat whitelist yet, right?
tight frigate
What? I never had a problem running msi afterburner with any games.
empty lion
where u need overlays? i disable those always from every software
drowsy shuttle
to check temps, fps and all that
tight frigate
I just use it for the fan curve.
drowsy shuttle
you can toggle on and off the overlay... but with EA anticheat doesn't work
thin herald
hi there, i cannot log in into the game, it says cant load persistant data. I didn't have this just 3 hours ago
empty lion
to check temps, fps and all that
u can use console commands to check fps
drowsy shuttle
i like to check cpu usage and temps
empty lion
get 2" dp monitor and use that to show temps, usage etc.
hybrid steppe
Jesus H Christ, this mouse bug keeps happening every 30 seconds or so, this is borderline unplayable.
DICE should just roll back the update at this point.
tropic hazel
basic user input fixed yet?
tight frigate
i agree it is unplayable for PC and they should roll back update tll they fix it.
Sucks , right as i was getting into BF2042 . Been playing for like 2-3 weeks. My friends warned me it's buggy.
thin herald
Same, i just got asked to buy it during discount and liked it
tropic hazel
it's a great game when it works, it just usually doesn't
hybrid steppe
Sucks , right as i was getting into BF2042 . Been playing for like 2-3 weeks. My...
I've played since release and this is the first time I've encountered a bug this BAD.
tropic hazel
just wait until you get the persistence data issue
tight frigate
data issue ?
hybrid steppe
That's another fun one, thank god those days are mostly over
low timber
Lol, got Claymore to T1 
hybrid steppe
"mostly" in world's largest quotation marks.
tight frigate
Do yall get the infinite black screen after 2-3 matches and have to reset the game?
thin herald
just wait until you get the persistence data issue
having it right now
tropic hazel
oof
I completely removed the Xbox Game Bar with the command prompt and it immediately went away
thin herald
Do yall get the infinite black screen after 2-3 matches and have to reset the ga...
many friends of mine last two weeks always have it, i personally had this only once or twice
tropic hazel
came back again so I just installed it and removed it again, very strange
infinite blackscreen has only happened to me since Season 6, happened a couple times in S4 but not this much
hopefully whatever they do to fix this mouse issue also fixes not being able to use high polling rates
empty lion
well most games dont like higher than 1k polling rate
tropic hazel
I had to use 250 for 2042 lol
empty lion
wish more games would support 8k polling rate better, hate to lower into 1k
tropic hazel
seems like a waste
bright canopy
Same ROF
way less recoil
similar, same or better damage model
just the reload is a bit slower
AM40 is nice don't give it competition
ruby citrus
okay lowering mouse polling fixes the lag issue drastically
fossil herald
am40 is really good for some reason even though it looks so wierd
bright canopy
AM40 is cool as heck
empty lion
okay lowering mouse polling fixes the lag issue drastically
its just make it less obivious, but its still there
ruby citrus
am40 is really good for some reason even though it looks so wierd
its an SMG with an AR headshot multiplier
fossil herald
yeah the quick reload is great
ruby citrus
it gets all the good shit smgs get while getting the AR multi
fossil herald
and way higher firerate than the ak24
ruby citrus
it beats all other smgs basically
tropic hazel
what's generally considered to be the worst AR/SMG?
ruby citrus
worst smg probably mp9
fossil herald
worst ar is the ak24 imo
empty lion
what's generally considered to be the *worst* AR/SMG?
no difrence, just point to head and click
tropic hazel
haven't tried that will give it a go
bright canopy
Recoil/damage/spread/reload speed are all suboptimal
There's nothing that stands out about it
PBX kills faster
Less BTK
AC9 is a pocket MG42
so is the K30
PP is a laserbeam
and the MP9 has nothing going for it except cool skins
tropic hazel
skins = wins
bright canopy
AK74 would be baller if it had faster muzzle velocity
but the bullets fly so slowly you can visually track the tracers when you shoot it lmao
atomic sluice
lowering polling rate doesnt fix the issue
bright canopy
Funny enough MP9 was the only playable gun on release for me
naive quiver
skins = wins
Skins is skin nothing to with win
tropic hazel
lowering polling rate doesnt fix the issue
does in normal circumstances but it seems to be worse atm
empty lion
i use only t1 skins for every gun and specialist 😄
bright canopy
Skins is skin nothing to with win
Nah you play better when you have a cool skin because then you're motivated
atomic sluice
w dice
empty lion
it's all about confidence, cool skin = more confidence = more kills
sounds more like skill issue 😄
bright canopy
So they acknowledged the mouse bug out loud but not the blackscreen bug
"get a better pc guys omegalul"
like Todd Howard said about Starfield running 60 FPS on a 4090
atomic sluice
it's all about confidence, cool skin = more confidence = more kills
this is actually true for me like no joke
tropic hazel
anyone else find the game loads matches quite slow too? got it on an NVME and my friend on Xbox Series S loads in twice as fast lol
fickle wharf
dont know
atomic sluice
this is actually true for me like no joke
i got me a skin for mackay and played a lil better
fickle wharf
im wondering the same thing as i load in faster than my pc buddies lmao
series s
tropic hazel
got the falck skin with the exo skeleton and I feel cool as heck, defo a motivator
^music to EA's ears
oh boy if there were ranger skins I would most certainly buy them for motivational purposes 😉 🙂
empty lion
there is
atomic sluice
should i get the mackay skin with the skeleton mask thing or the one with the blue and black mask
tropic hazel
get the cooler one
empty lion
oh boy if there were ranger skins I would most certainly buy them for motivation...
u dont have?
tropic hazel
there is one skin, skins is plural 🙂
wild you can't buy ultimate edition anymore, poor ranger skin is lost forever
tropic hazel
there was a cool white one in the concept art for S3 but it never released, sad
ruby citrus
god i hate manifest
if they removed the high spots the map would instantly become 20x better
its like wowee i see 3 pixels of some dude 300m away
empty lion
well u need just 1pixel to hit 🙂
merry heart
They should bring back suppression in this game so we can suppress sniper campers on towers
tropic hazel
need pigeon spikes on the arch on hourglass too
ruby citrus
They should bring back suppression in this game so we can suppress sniper camper...
add aimpunch but against snipers specifically
merry heart
turbid drum
Anyone else got some weird stuttering going on? Occurs every like 1-2 mins. My friend that has Nvidia and AMD same issues. Latest driver
tropic hazel
yes, we all do
empty lion
Anyone else got some weird stuttering going on? Occurs every like 1-2 mins. My f...
its the new feature in game after patch 6.1
merry heart
It's so annoying that I can't suppress when I'm unloading my hot load of 150 rounds on a sniper 800m away
tropic hazel
it's part of the Persistence Data Rework
turbid drum
Okay, thx for replies. Didn't seem present yesterday
lilac linden
man youre not kidding. that mouse lag thing is horrible.
tropic hazel
Okay, thx for replies. Didn't seem present yesterday
yeah that's what I was thinking, weird it came out of nowhere lol
merry heart
man youre not kidding. that mouse lag thing is horrible.
Blame the anti-cheat causing it
atomic sluice
mouse lag makes it unplyable
tropic hazel
just glad Easy Anti Cheat is gone
merry heart
mouse lag makes it unplyable
Blame the anti-cheat causing it
empty lion
mouse lag makes it unplyable
naah, annoying as hell but still easy to win
merry heart
empty lion
It's so annoying that I can't suppress when I'm unloading my hot load of 150 rou...
how about hit those shots and dont just draw around player 😄
tropic hazel
getting old now mate
merry heart
how about hit those shots and dont just draw around player 😄
How you know I was drawing a phallic picture on the sniper? 
empty lion
How you know I was drawing a phallic picture on the sniper? <a:monkaShoot:420496...
well aint that kinda obivious if u unload whole mag on one player 😄
ruby citrus
level 30 dude with 4.5 k/d, scripter?
empty lion
lvl mean absolute nothing
ruby citrus
just means the account is fairly new
empty lion
just means the account is fairly new
can be old timer to franchise, can be smurf and so on
ruby citrus
idk im just way more weary of scripters because given the games playercount increase there have been an influx of them
empty lion
and that kd aint even high for casual game
opal compass
just means the account is fairly new
lemme get a new account and get a 5+ k/d
bright canopy
They're not cheating, they're just not being hit with the new mouse bug
naive quiver
https://youtu.be/oeneSRbpmHc?si=CVSVQq1RE3XXUMPc next level upgrade
bright canopy
empty lion
tough hardly can be smurf in this game since there is no real competitive scene, atleast not on same level than in older bf games was
chilly harbor
it's part of the Persistence Data Rework
The what?
royal swan
He was near top scoring
But on the last objective I got a lucky spawn and killed him with c5
Then the second time
opal compass
https://youtu.be/oeneSRbpmHc?si=CVSVQq1RE3XXUMPc next level upgrade
tbh. 144 hz? nah
royal swan
I used a Tor tank and blasted his ass before he did damage
opal compass
samsung has 240hz ultrawides. no burn cuz of mini led
naive quiver
tbh. 144 hz? nah
enough
naive quiver
240hz too much
empty lion
1080p master class
naive quiver
24 inch
opal compass
waiting for the G5 Neo
naive quiver
I cant go back small monitor
glossy crag
Someone know how to fix input lag mouse in this new update?
empty lion
I cant go back small monitor
depens are u casual gamer or competitive player
royal swan
Someone know how to fix input lag mouse in this new update?
It's a game issue
Dice will fix it
You can't
merry heart
240hz too much
from what was tested, higher mhz = less motion blur
glossy crag
Ty
I hope they fix it this week. The game was going so well and with an increasing number of players.
naive quiver
depens are u casual gamer or competitive player
My main monitor is 1440p 32 inch and 27 inch 144hz for side monitor
49ich is my next upgrade
frail lichen
First day I come back to BF2042 and the mouse doesn't work. xD Wow......
glossy crag
Dice will fix it
How can i report this issue to Dice or EA?
glossy crag
First day I come back to BF2042 and the mouse doesn't work. xD Wow......
Problem with mouse in this new update :/
Same here
royal swan
They know it's a thing
empty lion
casual gamer = good to go with larger aspect ratio, resolution vs competive gamer = stick in lower resolution and higher refresh, only thing what matters
glossy crag
Need report to EA and Dice
royal swan
Nearly everyone has it
frail lichen
Problem with mouse in this new update :/
Yeah. I can honestly say, I've never had something like this happen in an FPS.
royal swan
Except me
merry heart
tough hardly can be smurf in this game since there is no real competitive scene,...
BF never had a competitive scene. The few people who say there is are pretty delusional.
royal swan
Somehow
empty lion
BF never had a competitive scene. The few people who say there is are pretty del...
there was in bf3/bf4 era
merry heart
I remember running into a guy and got into an argument with him exclaiming that BF5 had a competitive scene.
i just laughed him off
royal swan
BF never had a competitive scene. The few people who say there is are pretty del...
It does have some competitive ness but it's overall casual
frail lichen
It's an FPS, it's naturally competitive.
royal swan
Yeah that
merry heart
yeah that, but i dont consider leaderboards "competitive" imo
frail lichen
If I play a casual game of football with my friends, it's competitive.
royal swan
It's not made for competitive play, but it has competitive aspects that are required for a fps
royal swan
yeah that, but i dont consider leaderboards "competitive" imo
That's not it
ruby citrus
battlefield 1 tried a competitive thing with incursions
which was honestly really cool looking
but it flopped hard
merry heart
battlefield 1 tried a competitive thing with incursions
the guy i was arguing with insisted that it was
frail lichen
I really hope their hard at work with this mouse thing. That completely shut off a large portion of your playerbase. And again, I've never see something like this in any FPS I've played. So weird.
glossy crag
Dice could place portal maps in the normal map rotation.
empty lion
bf4 squad obliteration was last competitive what was in bf, it wasnt huge when u compare in cs etc. but it was still highly competitive with big orgs
glossy crag
The game was going so well and with an increasing number of players.
patent pivot
Dice could place portal maps in the normal map rotation.
or rather revive portal and add content
glossy crag
This inputlag mouse broke a lot
frail lichen
I want to play a CoD-style prop hunt game, but on a BF map xD
empty lion
@merry heart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGZJWnBafkA <- so that is not competitive 😄
lilac linden
64 v 64 prop hunt
merry heart
<@397972933374378004> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGZJWnBafkA <- so that is ...
neat
glossy crag
I love bf2 and will be good if they put maps like strike karkand, sharqi peninsula, great wall and other on portal.