battlefield-2042

[solar obsidian]

and then you get the shot from behind and hit your ear

[limpid pond]

That's just unlucky like how you let someone behind you

In airsoft I get it but if paintball you're a noob if that happens

[solar obsidian]

i miss paintball mode in shooters

[limpid pond]

Also speedsofters get hate idk why tbh

Speedball Is very common with paintball and is the competitive format so it's odd airsoft doesn't have a competitive format for that

[solar obsidian]

im more amazed how bad paintball games have been in general

[still vault]

"not final art" 😄

[solar obsidian]

we have the tech, is just slapping some aim maps together from cs with slower projectile and oversized hit markers staying

[limpid pond]

Ehh people wanna see blood and someone die if they play a shooter

Paintball doesn't have that

[solar obsidian]

battlefield barely got it either

[limpid pond]

But people still die

[solar obsidian]

have you seen the chinese pubg ?

[limpid pond]

You're also shooting a gun

Compared to a marker

[rocky bear]

Pew pew

[still vault]

[limpid pond]

Get rekt noob

[eager spire]

I am alive

[solar obsidian]

https://youtu.be/hdhNHkb2MzQ?t=82

[still vault]

Have no idea what you are talking about, just saw "pew pew" and got excited

[solar obsidian]

pew pew

[limpid pond]

I pew pewed you

[solar obsidian]

i just want my wargames to be fucking brutal

[limpid pond]

That was me in the clip trickshotting you

[eager spire]

personally i prefer my video games to be fun

oh wait this is probably talking about paintball

[solar obsidian]

nothing like gears of war when you explode a person and its gore everywhere

of course it does not need to be so over the top

[limpid pond]

Yeah but that's the difference between paintball games and shooters

[next onyx]

I heard someone's pain as they got shot in the groin once.

[limpid pond]

Yes it hurts

[next onyx]

Well I think it was pain.

[limpid pond]

It's even worse when the paintball doesn't explode

[next onyx]

Just heard a small moan in the distance.

Was shot in the chin once.

[limpid pond]

I got pleted in the throat 3 times 2 of the balls didn't explode

Thought I was gonna die

[solar obsidian]

[limpid pond]

It feels like someone throwing a decently sized rock at your neck

[eager spire]

guy was definitely accurate

[next onyx]

The rock playing paintball.

[limpid pond]

Yeah he had a butterfly trigger and jiggle peaked me as I peaked

Didn't feel to good

[eager spire]

and people say jiggle peaking isn't realistic

smh

[rocky bear]

what

[limpid pond]

Yeah you play paintball you see how realistic it is

It's the same as slide canceling

Slide canceling is real but it's Called a knee slide

Looks different but does the same as a slide cancel

[eager spire]

slide cancelling irl

[limpid pond]

Yep a knee slide

You play competitive paintball you see it all the time

Easy way to stop your momentum without falling

https://youtube.com/shorts/60V5xRqwY2g?feature=share

I do this all the time to throw people off and to get behind cover fast

[eager spire]

I used to be interested in airsoft stuff. Then i moderated the /r/Airsoft discord. I still am but not in terms of actually playing it. Like, right now it's mainly interested in it for photography and cosplay purposes

[limpid pond]

Yeah I've always thought airsoft was cool but could never get behind it to much because all the gear

[eager spire]

I fucking hated that server. It was one of those situations where there were annoying people in the discord, even if they did do something wrong, i couldn't get rid of 'em because people would complain.

[limpid pond]

You're not always gonna feel the hit and especially with the milsim stuff they do it can be frustrating

Sounds about right

Normally little kids and stuff do that

They basically throw a fit when they get warned or in trouble then complain

[eager spire]

i'm pretty sure half those people were grown ass adults

[limpid pond]

Guess that sounds right

[eager spire]

especially since there were people that had fucking NVG's and shit

[limpid pond]

It's the opposite for paintball

Oh what the

Spending all that money just to look cool with gear they won't use

[eager spire]

Yeah, there are a significant amount of people that spend a lot of money on gear and GBBR's

[limpid pond]

Use nvg during the day you'll go blind

[eager spire]

or HPA

[solar obsidian]

sound like whales in mmos

[limpid pond]

Hpa I never understood

Gbbrs give the effect of real recoil so I get that

[next onyx]

It is a hobby tho.

[eager spire]

You use HPA when you either want your gun to be really quiet, or BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[limpid pond]

Expensive asf though

[solar obsidian]

question

[limpid pond]

True a cool one at that

[limpid pond]

Yes

[solar obsidian]

does this airsoft comes with aim assistance ?

[eager spire]

There's also the Daytona stuff, HPA powered GBBR's, but not many people do that because that's a significant amount of effort

[limpid pond]

Nope

[solar obsidian]

unplayable

[limpid pond]

Mnk onlu

[next onyx]

Airsoft fg42 i want.

With all the power of one.

[solar obsidian]

cant expect me to manual aim pff

[limpid pond]

Hpa guns are cool but I feel like they're only fun if you full auto

[eager spire]

But yeah, airsoft stuff looks cool but the people in the hobby are very obnoxious

[limpid pond]

Alot of fields I'm pretty sure don't allow over 400fps

[eager spire]

And most of them are from Socal. Typical.

[next onyx]

Put an American 8x on your ww2 paratrooper rifle.

[limpid pond]

And you can't full auto indoor

[eager spire]

SoCal seems to be the airsoft capital of the US

because it seemed like half the server was from there

[limpid pond]

Thermal on a m1 garand

[next onyx]

I remember when levelcap did airsoft.

[limpid pond]

Intresting

[next onyx]

Looking back that was kind of cool.

But since people recognised him he couldn't really do it anymore.

[solar obsidian]

back before the youtube money completely took over

[eager spire]

I'm sure Levelcap still has that BF3 M16A3 replica he made

[limpid pond]

Ar style paintball gums are the worse

Guns*

I feel bad for people that buy them because they cost so much to be junk

[solar obsidian]

overdesigned pcs with rgb right there

[limpid pond]

Terribly

Like the dam dye matrix marker

It's 1400$ usd and blows through o rings faster than you can shoot the balls

Cost more to fix it than to use it

I have a empire mini gs electric marker with a electric hop up mine was around 800

Had it for 2 years probably shot over 100000 paintballs and it runs great

[eager spire]

I see.

[limpid pond]

Yeah did you look up the matrix gun

Ar style markers are bad and a waste

Alot of issue

Standard electrical markers are good

[dapper river]

this was my first lelelel

[eager spire]

Beginner Approved 👍

[eager spire]

no i didn't

[limpid pond]

It's suck a scam

I feel bad for people that buy them

The mags even release

But they're for show lmaooo

[solar obsidian]

when you get told to sleep by the better half

[dapper river]

Um actually the mag houses tools like the almighty alan rench

[limpid pond]

Ah yes the Alan wrench

My literal best friend

[eager spire]

Alan Wrench, isn't that the remedy game?

[limpid pond]

Especially when I get a core sample by accident

[dapper river]

https://tenor.com/view/raptor-alan-jp3-gif-9139616

[fair ginkgo]

bro wtf is this EA app

its so garbage

[eager spire]

it's an app

[fair ginkgo]

cloud save could not sync

wtf

[eager spire]

...I read that for .3 seconds

[limpid pond]

Then save in the ozons

Ozone

Not the clouds

[eager spire]

and thought that said "clown save could not sync"

[fair ginkgo]

literally just wanna play bf2042

gotta open epic games, then origin, but no origin has changed to "EA app" now

then crash

[solar obsidian]

sounds like steam issues

[fair ginkgo]

then cloud save cannot sync

[eager spire]

clearly EA doesn't want you to

[solar obsidian]

[last swift]

Epic Games 💀

[opaque niche]

Why can’t I join a new squad. It’s season 4 come on

[fair ginkgo]

yeah cos it was $20

[eager spire]

bruh

[limpid pond]

Let's have the best debate ever. Bananas or apples

Apples suck

[fair ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-a-banana-banana-rejected-gif-3569917

epic embed fail

[solar obsidian]

both

[opaque niche]

https://tenor.com/view/banana-price-banana-monkey-3d-gif-gif-23411917

[eager spire]

consider this: apple pie slaps

[last swift]

No bananas on pizza

[limpid pond]

Banana bread hits

[solar obsidian]

banana cake

[limpid pond]

Banana pancakes

Banana smoothies

[solar obsidian]

banana smoothie

yeees

pancakes

ooh

[limpid pond]

Chiclate dipped Banana

Chocolate

[fair ginkgo]

banana chips

[limpid pond]

Banana wins 100%

[fair ginkgo]

apples are garbage

[solar obsidian]

banana even natural medicine for stomach issues

[limpid pond]

Yeah fuck apples

Exactly

[fair ginkgo]

all my homies hate apples

[limpid pond]

Spin in circles for 30 seconds eat a banana drink Sprite then spin again

Natural stomach cleanse

[solar obsidian]

yeah, i was thinking the opposite

but hmm

[limpid pond]

Oh yeah it makes you throw up

So your stomach is cleansed

[solar obsidian]

i never throw up

not thrown up for like 18 years now

[limpid pond]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xg0rlbbiBWo?feature=share

[solar obsidian]

xD

[limpid pond]

Do the challenge

I haven't thrown up in 10 but this will make you throw up

[solar obsidian]

im good

[limpid pond]

You 100% will throw up

Idk why but it actually forces you to throw up

[solar obsidian]

no idea

[limpid pond]

It's funny to watch though

[eager spire]

there's probably some chemical reason for that but i'm not a science major

[quiet shell]

So I checked out DICE's podcast where they talked about maps and the discussed how their idea that players would call in vehicles to travel across the maps didn't work because people would prefer to run.

I personally refute that cause I remember at launch that vehicles were never available for call in

[eager spire]

to be fair, if vehicles were just on the map and people could spawn in them off rip then this wouldn't be a problem

[quiet shell]

128 players and the total vehicle count held maybe 50 people

[eager spire]

but no this orbital call in system had to be made

yet another reason that 128 players was not a good idea.

[quiet shell]

I wouldn't say it wasn't a good idea, DICE just didn't think everything through

[eager spire]

I would say that.

[quiet shell]

for example, they assumed players would go off and fight at different objectives as like mini maps

Never occured to them that entire teams would just swarm singular lcoations

[eager spire]

I'm just wondering if the people working on this game have ever played a Battlefield game before.

[quiet shell]

they've all been battlefield veterans

Problem is and they even admitted it, Players are more creative than them in terms of approaching maps

basically everything they laid out for the maps originally worked on paper

but the players took that paper and turned it into spitballs

[next onyx]

Vanta and Drunkze would be scary and fun to fight.

Come to think of it.

[eager spire]

would like to see what they thought the game would play like on paper

just out of curiosity

[quiet shell]

they detailed it in the podcast

basically: Players would divide up into smaller groups across different objectives and each objective would act as mini-maps within the larger map. Players could call in vehicles to go to different objectives and would use specialist abilities accordingly

Instead, players didn't divide up, they would go with the swarm to the nearest objectives sprinting the whole way since there was unlimited sprint, and players would only call in vehicles if it gave them an advantage

[eager spire]

I guess that's not really a good way to describe what I want, then. I just really wanna know what their vision for this game was, because there are things that confuse me like the SMG nerfs, the justification for it, the drum/extended mag nerfs, creating Lis, buffing the wallhack specialist when she was already strong before nerfing her

[quiet shell]

and given how powerful the vehicles were, there was always an advantage so they were always being used

[quiet shell]

oh those, I have no idea

a mixture of poor leadership before the shake up and DICE working with what it has while fixing the game

[eager spire]

Like, what were they planning the game to be like on a smaller scale?

[quiet shell]

I don't even think they knew

[eager spire]

wouldn't surprise me if all these changes were knee jerk reactions or spreadsheet balancing.

[regal sphinx]

Giants of Karelia in Season 5, railgun, 2142's titans - Seems like DICE is knowing what they're doing in terms of building a continuity and tying things of former titles together. 😍

[limber orbit]

could still be golmud

[lilac dust]

Nah it's siege of shanghai clearly

[limber orbit]

shit you right

[cinder apex]

Giants of Golvod 311

[sour steeple]

You can see it in breaktrough where the defending and attacking Team fights over 1 objective meanwhile the 2nd objective is taken by the enemy but nobody left to defend it yet defenders dont care At all about the taken objectiv. 128p is just to much. My most fun experience for bt was 16vs16. Had alot 90+ games as infantery.

[tame parrot]

I liked the Liquidators gamemode a lot. The 8v8 on the harbor was awesome.

[sour steeple]

8v8 ended too often in spawntrap imo. 8 Players were to easy to dominante even as solo. Same issue had bfv squad conquest. It was 8v8 if i remember correctly

[elfin plank]

vehicles are powerful? lol

[rapid flint]

how to walk up to vehicles and c5 them without being noticed?

[eager spire]

Small conquest was a bad idea, it should've been Domination.

[quiet shell]

They used to be at launch

stupid OP

[limber orbit]

dont approach from the front lol

[elfin plank]

i was about to say lol 2042 vehicles are the weakest in the whole franchise

[next onyx]

They're more stupid than anything.

Easy to cheese.

[elfin plank]

theyre more unrealistic than anything

3 billion dollar jet cant sustain decent bullet spread on its cannon

[next onyx]

Shouldn't expect realism in battlefield.

[elfin plank]

7.62 machine gun from radio shack damages tanks

[lethal path]

A plus game lmao

[elfin plank]

battlefield renowned for its "realistic but arcadey" take on shooters is failing at its own formula

[limber orbit]

ye its bf if you expect realism you're playing the wrong damn game

[lethal path]

Imagine being free on plus

[next onyx]

Gives us real life toys and it puts its own spin on things.

[elfin plank]

in the year 2042 guns are somehow more inaccurate than weapons in world war 2 lmao

[lethal path]

You looks hot

[next onyx]

The fact that we can use the Competitor to the Xm7 I'm excited for.

[elfin plank]

game doesnt even try to make sense.. just tries to be as casual as possible

[lethal path]

Will you marry me

[elfin plank]

blocked

[limber orbit]

its uhm.... its a game

[next onyx]

Stop with the weird comments. @lethal path

[elfin plank]

oh my bad sorry for the brutal expectations

[limber orbit]

there ya go

[lethal path]

oh i got rejected

[next onyx]

If you want a game that tries to be realistic as possible play HLL or Squad. Battlefield like COD is made to be as accessible as possible to a larger audience.

[elfin plank]

yeah no. dont try to be a dice apologist lol

[next onyx]

I'm not though.

[limber orbit]

what

[lethal path]

That's right

[elfin plank]

no one is asking for battlefield to be like pubg or something

[lethal path]

Absolutely right

[elfin plank]

if you cant mantain the same level of "makes sense okay" from previous titles wtf are they doing?

[lethal path]

yeah

[next onyx]

No idea. Truth be told I don't really care about the level of believability since it's a game and we've all seen weirder.

[elfin plank]

oh here we go with the "its just a game" non sense.. that just excuses more fuckery

like releasing the game unfinished

battle royal

need i go on?

[lethal path]

Lmao

[next onyx]

I hate the fact that the game was rushed out the gate.

[elfin plank]

oh but... by your mentality its just a game bro

"i dont care"

[next onyx]

I don't care game when it comes to equipment as long as it's functional and balanced. Technical aspects though that's a different thing.

[elfin plank]

ok lets start there then

[lethal path]

Stfu, it's just a game and all what we want is a fun gameplay whether it's realistic or not

[elfin plank]

equipment gadgets whatever theyre calling it

theyre not balanced

[next onyx]

Might want to tone down on the rudeness Ones.

[lethal path]

Okay

[next onyx]

You mean shit like the sentry gun and minigun feeling weird?

And that armour exists which trivialises survival?

Then the shitters maining rocket launchers on infantry.

[lethal path]

Why she keep ignoring me

[sour steeple]

And Transports being stronger than main fighting vehicles

[elfin plank]

bullet spread.. assault being clearly dominate in infantry because theyre draw sspeed is insane compared to everything else

[next onyx]

Draw speed as in sprint out speed?

[elfin plank]

vehicles being next to useless

[sour steeple]

Draw speed on supports is faster

[elfin plank]

super false

[next onyx]

Yeah medics have faster swap speed with SMG's.

Assault has no advantages other than carrying more mags.

[elfin plank]

assaults have the fastest

incorrect

[sour steeple]

Its their trait

[elfin plank]

nope nope nope listen before you retort ill explain

[winter vault]

Announce bf vietnam

[sour steeple]

The faster sprint out time trait for assaults never made it into the game

[elfin plank]

mackay and his specialist trait

[next onyx]

Vietnam with the Galil ARM, AKM and all those goodies!

[elfin plank]

plus the ar trait

[limber orbit]

draw speed on support isnt a thing lol thats the medics and their smgs

[next onyx]

Nimble. His fast ADS speed. Yeah that's an issue.

[elfin plank]

unkillable on a competent player

[sour steeple]

Well its a good thing. Still Strafe speed across was buffed for all ops and slightly nerfed for mackay.

[elfin plank]

dont give me that " well i dont have a problem with it" garbage

[next onyx]

I'm not sure if I still agree with Mackay being much faster than the other operators. His grappling hook is massive still.

[sour steeple]

Aim issue

[elfin plank]

ok casual

[sour steeple]

Better than u for sure

[pastel loom]

Good, I've spent more than enough on other games before
and some few i want are coming this year

[next onyx]

I've been maining Zain though and it's weird going back to Mackay.

[elfin plank]

either way in my personal opinion since smgs suck and ars are by far the most used weapon type

[next onyx]

And I mained Mackay for the better part of the year before Zain came out.

[elfin plank]

actually screw that

[sour steeple]

Its not me Who struggle with mackay

[next onyx]

I heard AR's got an increased pick rate after the update.

[elfin plank]

remove the damn specific weapon specific class draw speed crap

[next onyx]

Which was a surprise.

[sour steeple]

No

[elfin plank]

seriously doubt but go off casual timmy

[next onyx]

Different classes have their own innate ready times. Only medic has the modification to SMG's.

Can you seriously all calm it.

SMG's do need a buff yeah.

[sour steeple]

Its you Who complain about speed. Simple aim issue

[next onyx]

Last warning. @sour steeple

[elfin plank]

ok bf expert

[sour steeple]

Maps are wide and open. Kinda obvious that ARs dominate alltogether with lmgs

[next onyx]

I know that assault was supposed to get an increased sprint to fire time with assault rifles.

But that was removed.

[eager spire]

But DICE said SMG's aren't supposed to reward accuracy

[elfin plank]

im honestly trying to have a discussion lol i didnt even know you were a mod way

doesnt change my point on these issues tho

[sour steeple]

Sadly

[next onyx]

Hah I try to act like I'm on the same level as everyone.

[elfin plank]

LOL

[eager spire]

i'm not kidding they actually said that

Season 2 patch notes

[next onyx]

You can see parts of it remain, uS. Cause when 3.2 came out all assault rifles had a larger sprint to fire delay.

They recently removed that in 3.2.1.

[sour steeple]

We know. Yet their ttk is still slower compared to some ARs . Dice cant properly Balance weapons since ages

[elfin plank]

that is an issue.. honestly regardless of class or "operator" skill shouldnt be supplemented or degraded based off of who you pick if that makes sense

[eager spire]

well they removed half of it because apparently extended mags are still nerfed

[sour steeple]

Only on ak

[next onyx]

I was talking about sprint to fire times.

Drum mag AK is fun.

[sour steeple]

M5 extended is fine for example

[next onyx]

I fucking love that.

[elfin plank]

thats what i mean. who thought that was a good idea? lol

[next onyx]

Drum mags?

They're not the worst thing.

[elfin plank]

m5 is fine but weapons across the board should get a reduction in bullet spread

[limber orbit]

they should?

[elfin plank]

negative, chat moved i meant the sprint to ads speed

[limber orbit]

i still think it should be like bf4

[next onyx]

I know that short barrel technically decreases your accuracy since the rounds have more time to converge.

Oh yeah they removed the sprint to fire ADS speed.

[sour steeple]

Even more Laser than its already is? Then atleast increase recoil by alot

[next onyx]

In 3.2.1.

[elfin plank]

i dont mean massive like make all the weapons laser beams but holy hell... have you guys seen the spread on weapons vs other weapons in the series?

why is the m1 grand more accurate than the svk LOL

or the m16a3 from the actual bf3 more accurate than the fake bf3 ripoff in portal and aow

[next onyx]

I can't say I'm too annoyed by the spread in the game now since you have proper control over it. Run stubby or LWG light grip to improve your run and gun accuracy.

[sour steeple]

Besides m16a3 the other vault weapons have alot more spread then base 2042 weapons. Even more noticed during Jump shots or strafing

[limber orbit]

i dunno i dont really run around with the garand an awful lot lol

[buoyant trail]

Me personally im tired of getting matches where nearly 80% of the team is just running lmg's

[next onyx]

Yeah portal weapons definitely need an accuracy tune.

[elfin plank]

fr^

[next onyx]

2042 m16a3 is a lot of fun, One of my favourite weapons.

[pastel loom]

bf3 m16 was a cheap gun anyway
glad to know that's not as much now

[limber orbit]

lmgs? what about sfars lol

[next onyx]

When the shots hit over the range god damn does it feel so good.

[eager spire]

what about the SFAR?

[next onyx]

Fas, I'd argue this m16a3 is even better.

[buoyant trail]

Portal mtar makes me cry when i remember the original

[elfin plank]

imagine how much better it could be if it were actually like the real bf3 one

[sour steeple]

No the 2042 m16a3 is currently the 1# accurate ar for beaming ppl in fullauto beyond 200m

[limber orbit]

oh no ive angered a gamer

[next onyx]

In bf3 it had a 9m 4HK range, In this they removed that 4HK range and gave it a long as fuck 5HK range.

[buoyant trail]

[next onyx]

I'd argue 2042 M16a3 is even better though. But that's because I've used this variant more than the other one.

[elfin plank]

as someone who has 300 service stars in bf3 with the real thing.. this version sucks and only does decent here because by comparsion all the weapons are junk

[eager spire]

you do realize that's because that was the meta in BF3 right

[buoyant trail]

I could never get comfortable with the m16 in bf3 myself

[next onyx]

I had more fun with the m416.

In bf3.

[elfin plank]

the topic of this discussion is the m16a3. you realize that right?

[sour steeple]

Bf3 had less btk. Thats why it felt better.

[eager spire]

Yes i am aware of that

Thanks for reminding me but i have eyes.

[elfin plank]

thank you captain hindsight

refresh my acronym library please

btk?

[eager spire]

Bullets To Kill

[sour steeple]

Bullets to kill

Fuuuu to slow

[elfin plank]

while nostalgia would make me agree with you there

[next onyx]

BTK / HK.

Cause of pokemon I just go HK.

[elfin plank]

id argue that the m16a3 is far superior in bf3 with range full auto/burst kills

[sour steeple]

In 2042 you just full Auto
No burts

[elfin plank]

and some people call that skill LOL

[sour steeple]

I wish i could Upload a Clip here

[elfin plank]

bf3 did it right, further your target is away from you burst

or full auto and pull your mouse down

predictable recoil pattern too

none of this rng bullet spread non sense

[sour steeple]

Yes bcuz less accurate . Thats why you burts. Here in 2042 is no skillgap. You just hold lmb. Its a straight laser

[eager spire]

🤨

[elfin plank]

spread is like the halo 1 AR on full auto LMAO

[sour steeple]

[next onyx]

Ah dammit they haven't updated Symptic.

[sour steeple]

Halo ar spread

[elfin plank]

one of yall load up the game and fire the ak74u on full auto and tell me thats okay LOL

[sour steeple]

Ye

Vault weapons need serious Animation speed up buff and accuracy. They feel to slow when it comes to reload etc

[elfin plank]

clunky too

[next onyx]

It's weird when people say pull your mouse down to control recoil when I have to push the mouse up to control recoil.

[elfin plank]

like youre trying to use replica lego guns

[eager spire]

like, i'm sorry but why are you just blatantly lying about how BF3 gunplay works

[next onyx]

I'd be willing to deal with the reload speed if the m16a3 had a 35+1 round mag.

[sour steeple]

Jump shots are even worse spread wise on the vault guns

[elfin plank]

?

[limber orbit]

i know the feeling lol

[next onyx]

YO.

You play invert too?

[eager spire]

"none of this rng bullet spread nonsense" BF3 has bullet spread. in fact it is notable for being the first game to do that

[elfin plank]

LOL but it doesnt, loads like the m27iar

[limber orbit]

inverted for life brother

[next onyx]

M27 IAR is just another m416 though.

[elfin plank]

HK416's bigger brother

but the m16 we got loads like a slow lmg at times

[next onyx]

M416 was my first favourite weapon in battlefield, When I found out it was a real thing I was so happy.

[elfin plank]

me too man, my first weapon i got to 100ss

[sour steeple]

Bf3 Balance was funny. Faction sided weaponry. M16a3/m27/m4 vs ak74,ak74u,rpk

Balanceeeed

[eager spire]

i mean you can use guns on both factions if you get enough kills with one

[elfin plank]

atleast the aek was a demon

[next onyx]

First weapon I got to 10K kills was the Fg42 on bf5.

[elfin plank]

and dont forget the an94

[sour steeple]

Yes you can. But later on

[next onyx]

Before that I never stuck to one gun since they stopped feeling good.

Infact the FG42 is my most used gun at 52K kills.

[sour steeple]

Hardline was my favourite. Where the m416 rocked 850rpm vs m16 with 800.
Dont know why bf3 and 4 m416 went with 750rpm

[terse vector]

Do anyone know when season 3 is ending?

[elfin plank]

unpopular opinion.. but early hardline was goated in gun play

[next onyx]

Think that's the HK416 A5.

[limber orbit]

4 days

[next onyx]

Season 3 is ending upcoming tuesday.

[elfin plank]

spread was kinda iffy but that game was fun

[next onyx]

Hardline's weapon balance was annoying but it was a fun game all in all.

I mained enforcer with the SCAR H because I loved the damn thing.

[sour steeple]

Heavy rifles were op till the end

[terse vector]

Thx!

[buoyant trail]

Never played it myself just cause i wasnt intrested in juggling yet another fps

[next onyx]

Battle rifles were fucking busted.

[elfin plank]

That was the last game that medkits actually healed you and didnt have some gimmick behind it

[next onyx]

But in a way I was glad that support was good.

There was a gimmick and that was people could grab health and ammo off people who were holding boxes.

We need that back.

[sour steeple]

And ppl couldnt revive you when you got a hs

[elfin plank]

Facts

[next onyx]

Explosive and roadkills.

As well.

[buoyant trail]

Wasnt that in V also?

[next onyx]

Yeah.

Though hardline was the first game that introduced it.

[eager spire]

honestly, not being able to revive people who got headshot is an interesting mechanic

[buoyant trail]

I mean it makes sense

[elfin plank]

its a way of balancing without pissing people off

[next onyx]

There was the survivalist gadget but that was extremely rare and that was only for explosives and roadkills.

[elfin plank]

was that the first game where you had to charge defibs or am i wrong?

[next onyx]

That was 4.

[buoyant trail]

Lets snipers be useful somewhat rather than just providing a free revive / points

[eager spire]

no BF4 did that.

[next onyx]

Oh god.

Recons with the cameras.

They were everywhere.

Automatic spotting tools and they were incredibly good.

[elfin plank]

im convinced most of the people that play battlefield.. like across all games over the years

were like 80% recon

[buoyant trail]

That makes sense

[next onyx]

But I did like how in hardline every gadget had a use. I would run assault with med box and ziplines or a gas mask because there was so much utility.

[elfin plank]

And like 60% of them loved sitting on operation firestorms noob mountain till the end of time

[sour steeple]

Selfrez worked on these

[buoyant trail]

Easy tank sniper kills

[next onyx]

I always liked support but I didn't like the LMG's.

Unless they were IAR's.

Like the AWS.

[elfin plank]

People crap on hardline but it was actually decent and 2042 could learn some things from it

[rocky kraken]

Hardline over 2042 any day

[sour steeple]

Farmed kills in blood money all day long

Actual good bf game for infantery enjoyers

[rocky kraken]

True

[next onyx]

BLOOD MONEY.

[rocky kraken]

Hardline had far superior animation somehow

[eager spire]

i don't really care for blood money or most of Hardline's exclusive modes.

[next onyx]

I miss that.

I miss blood money so damn much.

The quotes from it were hilarious.

[eager spire]

Blood Money just seemed very annoying to play, people would constantly camp the other team's drop off site and it was incredibly onesided.

[elfin plank]

There isnt an inherent ads delay in that game lol

[sour steeple]

Tdm had busted spawn
Conquest to campy. However bloodmoney was perfect for insta action.

[next onyx]

Enemy steals money from your side.
Stingy reverb plays.
"You let those fucks, Rob my vault!?"

When your entire squad steals from the enemy vault and you make a successful getaway.

[eager spire]

my entire experience on Blood Money is basically me constantly saying "what the hell is my team doing"

[next onyx]

So many people would be out for BLOOD.

[eager spire]

while i have to basically defend the vault

[next onyx]

They see your car drive away EVERYONE has their guns aimed RIGHT at you.

[elfin plank]

You sure thats not from 2042?

[next onyx]

That's battlefield as a whole though is it not.

[elfin plank]

LOL

yeah

[next onyx]

They'll usually be at some random part of the map.

[eager spire]

yes, Battlefield is generally full of teammates that are not being helpful

[sour steeple]

Only wish the hitreg on ppl in cars were as good as all bf1/bfv

[eager spire]

and yet people get more mad at the people that actually play the game

[next onyx]

I was thinking of a way to bring blood money back utilising the satellites from hazard zone, uS.

[elfin plank]

or sniping down a hallway with a 40x scope not doing anything for 40mins

[next onyx]

It makes a sense to recover data, No?

[elfin plank]

wait wait wait i have a serious question

[next onyx]

Recover 300 Terabytes worth of data and win the game with many ways to play.

Hmm?

[sour steeple]

Oblitaration in bf4 was alot fun due to perma moving Teams

[next onyx]

I didn't play that much but I can imagine so.

The action is always there.

[elfin plank]

why is it... that people hate it when they have players on their team with a bunch of kills or whatever vehicle or not and call them useless?

[next onyx]

I loved killing people and stealing their money and taking it back to base.

[elfin plank]

like.. you dont need to die over and over on the obj to play the obj

[next onyx]

Or defending the base and then getting the points for assisted drop offs.

No idea.

[eager spire]

because those people are sweats and people hate those

[next onyx]

I stopped trying to understand the community at bf5.

[elfin plank]

and if you are playing a vehicle map wouldnt taking out enemy vehicles alot indirectly help your team

[eager spire]

getting kills is apparently not playing the objective according to certain people

these people are not worth considering in any aspect of anything

[next onyx]

During my time flying on bf5 my priority would always be a tank when I could help it.

[elfin plank]

always hated that mentality and normally some chimp going 5-15 saying that

[next onyx]

It's... weird.

During my time playing comp on bf5 I didn't care how I did as long as the team won.

That's when it really mattered.

Stop the guy from killing everyone and secure the objective, anchor it. Doesn't matter if you die multiple times as long as you get your objective done. In casual matches it's a free for all.

[sour steeple]

Bcuz they cant perform themselves so they go for an excuse that "teamplay" is more important than killing. Yet you need to kill to win

[elfin plank]

if youre actively trying to help your team win and you die alot. then so be it.. it happens. but if youre doing nothing and your team calls you out for being useless and you pull out the "its just a game bro": card then lmao

[next onyx]

Just angery peoples.

[eager spire]

I never understood that, like, if it's a game, why not play it?

[next onyx]

...And then when you get on the level of some of the better players those same idiots call you a cheater.

[elfin plank]

normally those types just throw themselves at objectives and die over an over until they capture it and have the GALL to say that youre bad... LOL bish what?

[next onyx]

I just farm with the SCAR without a care in the world.

[eager spire]

Why are you just fine with being incredibly bad literally all of the time?

[pastel loom]

because it often looks more of a farm killing
then help taking the objective

[eager spire]

Why do you think it's fun to not contribute?

[elfin plank]

fr man im trying to play/win/have fun. not baby sit the special olympics

[wet spade]

Hola

[elfin plank]

mentality of the average player now adays
"Why are you just fine with being incredibly bad literally all of the time?"

[next onyx]

Hey Max!

[wet spade]

Hola?

Speaking in spanish

[limber orbit]

okay?

[sour steeple]

Just wanna all chat return

[elfin plank]

this

[sour steeple]

Would bring atleast 10k more Players bcuz of allchat back to the game

[elfin plank]

no censoring unless its that certain n sounding word

[limber orbit]

lord in heaven the censor is so dumb

[eager spire]

they won't bring back all chat without censors because if not then they'd actually have to moderate the game more frequently

[elfin plank]

in a game where your soldier curses and blows peoples brains out

you the player cannot curse lOL

[next onyx]

All they just need to do is moderate slurs and leave an optional filter for swears, Really that's all they need to do.

[pastel loom]

could've told him only English is allowed

[next onyx]

Anyways.

[sour steeple]

The soldier cursing like in bc2/bf3 or bfh wont return i belive

[elfin plank]

sad honestly

[next onyx]

"Hey Fucker I'm asking for a ride"

[eager spire]

yeah but they probably don't wanna pay someone to actually to the moderation work

[next onyx]

By moderate I mean censor.

Honestly doesn't change anything in the end because you'll still get dog piled by your own team.

[sour steeple]

Not worth using current Chat if the enemy cant read gg ez

[elfin plank]

so true lol

[sour steeple]

Just for you m8s is a waste of tiping

[next onyx]

Tiping.

[sour steeple]

Ye

[next onyx]

Nvm.

A vietnam battlefield would be cool with a mix of cold war.

I keep on saying but it's all because I want my Galil.

[sour steeple]

Only cw. With Urban areas.

[next onyx]

Hardline was the only battlefield with the damn IMI Galil and that game is almost dead.

ACE Galil's are cool too.

[sour steeple]

Dont want to fight wookies in current ingame graphics for vegetation

[eager spire]

you know one thing i'm sad about in 2042

It doesn't run my Battlelog emblem so i just can't have a trans flag emblem in that game. 😔

i can do that in BF1 and i think that's funny

[sour steeple]

Bfv pacific map Vegetation was already thick

[next onyx]

Yeah though the only issue I had with it is when they'd be hiding inside of the bushes instead of blending in.

If that makes sense.

[sour steeple]

Yes

[next onyx]

I did use my ghillie suit tactically though!

[limber orbit]

i liked my crowned dino capping a flag

[next onyx]

Once.

[low timber]

Hi Way
Gonna T1 the NVK-S22 today
Just need 54 kills

[next onyx]

Cause I'm reminded of that one time a guy I shot at randomly proned with the ghillie suit and I momentarily lost him.

So in this instance, I had this low level tanker roll up, ended up proning and got the flare gun out and luckily for me, He didn't see me.

Nice Marse!

[low timber]

Then I have only one primary left, the MCS-880

[sour steeple]

There is not a single map with a small forrest in bf2042 .. only kaspian boarder as rework Version has a really small area with some trees. And discarded is kinda open

[low timber]

Orbital has forest?

[next onyx]

Rats do be hiding with subsonic VSS and it is infuriating.

Yeah the middle.

D to E.

[rapid flint]

they didn't mention dlss 3 in the developer update at all, guess its never coming

[low timber]

Btw, Way you know the pics of some random fence gates on a path but there is no fence so anyone can go around it?
That’s how some of the vehicle stoppers on Kaleidoscope are, completely useless

[limber orbit]

obviously

[sour steeple]

If you dont Rock a 4xxx then dlss3 doesnt Matter since you cant activate IT for the 3xxx cards

[next onyx]

GREEN.

[low timber]

And Kaleidoscope lost trees and bushes on the rework, should’ve lost those useless gates and try to keep some visual cover trees and bushes instead.

[limber orbit]

home boy likes green i guess

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that's right Marse.

GREEN.

[next onyx]

Don't stress about DLSS 3. It causes more issues than it's worth.

[rapid flint]

dlss 3 issues? like image quality or blur?

[next onyx]

It adds an input delay.

Which... Yeah no.

[rapid flint]

for real? i thought only frame generation did that

[next onyx]

There's some specifics to it to which I'm not good with.

But I just know that it does exist.

[rapid flint]

can I just use nvidia reflex to offset input delay?

[next onyx]

Still exists.

Unfort.

[rapid flint]

gotcha, all low settings for me it is then

[next onyx]

What card do you have

?

[rapid flint]

3080 and i game at 1440p

[next onyx]

Ayo 3080 gang.

[rapid flint]

the card struggles pretty hard in rush xl lmao

[next onyx]

That's your CPU going through hell.

Not your GPU.

What's your CPU?

[rapid flint]

for real? im using a 10900k atm

pls dont tell me it doesnt cut it

[next onyx]

Nah it's not a bad chip.

[rapid flint]

but it still isn't enough for the game

?

[next onyx]

Just note that this game is more CPU intensive.

It is! Good cache and power.

I know of a way to help with it a bit more.

You aware about XMP?

[rapid flint]

i'm thinking about switching to those new x3d amd cpus

yea i have xmp enabled in bios

only 16gb ram tho

[next onyx]

Definitely. The new 7800x3d will be a monster.

[rapid flint]

bruh i can't wait to see how the 7800x3d performs

[next onyx]

I have a 5800x3d and it's a crazy little chip.

[rapid flint]

the 5800 one is already a beast

[next onyx]

I've been absolutely OBSESSED with it since the rumours started.

Cause I like tech.

And now that I have it, I wonder how crazy the 7000x3d chips will be in comparison now that they can do more with them.

[sour steeple]

If you Rock a 3080 u dont need to wait for dlss3 since it wont work. Also ur playing on all low. You card is nowhere near to be a bottleneck. So no need for dlss at all here

[rapid flint]

i'm still clueless like how did Amd just announce these insane chips?

iirc i only heard about their 950x lines

[next onyx]

What do you how as in how did they just announce them? Are you wondering why they weren't released earlier?

[rapid flint]

i mean i was never aware of them

[next onyx]

Still relatively new.

[rapid flint]

i thought the best amd has to offer is the 5950x or smt

[next onyx]

Cause as early as I've heard, It was prototyped with the 3000 series.

[rapid flint]

and intel was still ahead with the k series

[next onyx]

I think there is a 5900x3d in the back stores but those are just again, prototypes.

And the 5800x3d is the only commercially available one.

[rapid flint]

does the 5800x3d bottleneck the 4090?

[next onyx]

No.

[rapid flint]

but the 13900k does right?

[next onyx]

Don't think so that as well.

I can go check.

[rapid flint]

if enabling dlss gave me an fps boost with no input delay then i'd use it with all ultra settings

[next onyx]

The GPU does the opposite, It bottlenecks the CPU.

[remote kiln]

they're too generic questions

it's not yes or no, it's both

[rapid flint]

imagine a 4090+7800x3d build

[next onyx]

Yes!

[rapid flint]

pair it with a 32' oled 4k

[remote kiln]

good luck with that

[next onyx]

So looking at it, The GPU does bottleneck the 5800x3d but even less of a one with the 7900x as per usual.

[remote kiln]

a 4090 only supports displayport 1.4

[naive quiver]

4090ti soon so its not worth on 4090

[next onyx]

That'd be even more overpriced.

[remote kiln]

it's not coming out soon

[next onyx]

Just wait for a 6070.

Can't wait until 4K cards become even easier to get making 1440p even easier to get into.

[remote kiln]

it doesn't

[naive quiver]

5090 may do

[remote kiln]

higher resolution monitors increase base costs, not decreases for lower monitors

[remote kiln]

Blackwell isn't coming lol

[next onyx]

Yeah it'll increase but hopefully the lower end will be easier to get into.

Oh why not?

[remote kiln]

they are already at market saturation

lower resolution monitors can't magically get cheaper

manufacturers are barely making any profit on them as is, any waiting for a reduction isn't happening

[next onyx]

Oh nah I was thinking the card being easier to get access to.

I wasn't talking about the monitor itself.

[remote kiln]

won't happen supply on the 4090 is artificial

[next onyx]

Sadly.

[naive quiver]

never will easy

increasing to the roof

[remote kiln]

it's not in nvidias interests for you to buy the card which is why you're not finding it

[eager spire]

artificial supply limiting is cringe.

[sturdy socket]

lmao

[eager spire]

oof

[sturdy socket]

also may as well bring this up while i have the free nitro

this is the type of speed i'm referring to for the javelins

this is what it should be like in terms of speed

[sour steeple]

You only need dlss when its an gpu bottleneck. Which isnt a thing unless you go for 4k max Settings in 2042 with your 3080. Also dlss3 wont activate tho

[sturdy socket]

guy straight up lost his ecm, partner noticed that, and we immediately leapt at the chance

instant punishment, and makes you understand cover and timed retreats better

the a10 player was just dumb in this clip

now transfer that travel speed to 2042 and you'll have people actually teaming up to mop vehicles

[chilly jacinth]

thats basically instant lock on

[sturdy socket]

that's how fast locks are in 4

but i don't care about the lock speed being slower, it's how fast the rocket goes

that and both the soflam and jav could use a range increase to 600 for helis, 700 for jets

not highly consistent at the moment

maps are massive

[sour steeple]

Still dont get it why dice nerfed an94 burst in portal but didnt touched the smaw. Smaw is still almost hitscan and obliterates aircraft

No reason at all running stinger

[arctic grove]

I have problem with easteregg on spearhead i finish easter egg but i dont get background for it

[next onyx]

That's a common issue.

Make sure you click on all radios.

[arctic grove]

3 of them? Done

On manifest dont even let me activate voke tokees

[wary portal]

Who's freaking psych about season 4? No?

[lusty musk]

The trade-off between the SMAW and RPG in BF3 was Speed vs Power, yes SMAW was pretty much hitscan but it hd low damage whereas the RPG had travel time but hit harder.

[next onyx]

That was 4.

In 3 they were default rocket launchers for u.s and ru.

[lusty musk]

Could swear that was also the case in BF3, I remember testing it out. Was 4 smaw shots to the side of a tank while RPG was only 3 to kill

[next onyx]

Maybe it was the case.

I wouldn't doubt that.

I just know that on 4 for certain that was a thing.

[cosmic storm]

They were moslty the same between the 3 and 4

So yeah, also different stats in 3 too

[sour steeple]

Yes but i talk about the portal Version where the smaw is just busted. You have 6 of These and hitscan velocity

[cosmic storm]

You can't say hitscan and velocity at the same time X)

But yeah, the SMAW rocket is really fast

[limber orbit]

veloscan

hitcity

[sour steeple]

Its insane.

[lusty musk]

One thing I wish they’d bring back, from BF1, able to damage heli’s/planes with small arms fire

or buff the AP rounds so that they hit vehicles harder but the trade-off would be they have more bullet drop (think NTW50 basic ammo)

[last oasis]

Will we get the xp boost again this weekend?

[sour steeple]

Now imagine m5 recoiless with portal smaw velocity. Nobody would complain about air anymore .

[lusty musk]

air vehicles being easier to hit? Sounds fair considering how much mobility they have compared to the infantry units they tend to target

[limber orbit]

dont let air nerds hear that lol

[patent prism]

AP rounds typically travel significantly faster than regular ball ammo to achieve the armor piercing effect, resulting in shorter time of flight which (in most cases) results in less bullet drop. Having an AP round have more bullet drop feels a little odd.

Note: I know there's a lot more to it than velocity, e.g. ballistic coefficients, drag model, atmospheric variables etc.

[sour steeple]

Well nightbird and attack helis are not a Big threat honestly. Since Liz exist. Transport on the other Hand is huge pain in the a**

[lusty musk]

I was thinking along the lines of it being tungsten used for AP rounds rather than steel, so the higher density of the metal would account for increased bullet drop

[ripe spruce]

Why can’t I join normal conquest matches, only season conquest

Game puts me in empty lobbies

[pearl ridge]

I think I just died by breaking my legs on a railing?

[lusty musk]

Yeap transport heli’s are a pain in the ass, especially on breakthrough where veh balancing is fucked. This is coming from a guy who’s a really good transport helo pilot too (I’ll keep that shit steady while all 3 gunners go to town on infantry)

[lusty musk]

Yeap new Parachute glitch

my guess is the parachute glitch has something to do with the tumble animation they added

[limber orbit]

i love that you get that animation on random edges too

[lusty musk]

Breakaway going from Sector C on breakthrough to Sector D there is a cliff on the right going up to D1 where you tumble going up the slight rock outcropping

[patent prism]

I am in no way a physics expert but I feel like that doesn't matter as much as one might think. If memory serves, an M118LR (7.62x51mm NATO long-range round) is heavier and travels slower than for example an M993 (7.62x51mm NATO armor piercing round) fired from the same rifle in the same conditions.

[limber orbit]

you can just spam that and give yourself a headache and throw upall over the place

[patent prism]

Obviously this is me being extremely nit-picky and unreasonable when talking about a game like Battlefield where there are more severe crimes than bullet drop representation.

[lusty musk]

From what I remember studying in Physics, a higher density meant more static friction whereas lower density meant less static friction. It’s been nearly a decade since I last studied Physics though

[patent prism]

Well, it sort of depends on the ammunition type being modelled in that case. I only know of one armor piercing round that is entirely tungsten and not tungsten-core, and that is the Swedish Sk Ptr 10 PRICK which is a saboted light armor piercing (SLAP) round, and as the name suggests, that's a sub-caliber projectile. I think I have the data sheet laying around where they compare it to regular ball ammunition, one second.

Okay, yeah, found it. So according to this data sheet the total bullet drop compared between the aforementioned SLAP round and a unspecified 7.62 full-caliber armor piercing projectile, the SLAP round has 58% less bullet drop than the full caliber projectile.

Although, the SLAP round in this is significantly smaller and lighter than the full-caliber ammunition.
SLAP is a 3.4g projectile whereas the full-caliber is a 9.5g projectile.

And the SLAP travels at a ridiculous 1 340 m/s muzzle velocity (compared to full-caliber at 850 m/s)

[lusty musk]

yea SLAP round only uses a Tungsten penetrator and a larger casing compared to full-caliber

I’m sure if someone did the math we could get a clear answer

but it would be moot since the Devs said with the addition of thermal sights “we’d rather focus on fun than realistic gameplay”

[patent prism]

Honestly, I could be completely wrong. I haven't taken a physics course since 2014-2015.

[patent prism]

Very good point.

[lusty musk]

honestly with my first look at AP rounds on release I was thinking back to BF1 vibes where you could shoot down planes with small arms

[patent prism]

I didn't play BF1 nor have I really tried AP ammo in 2042, though I have started considering bringing some to (hopefully) shoot through obstacles.

[lusty musk]

AP rounds are a sham compared to release, you use to be able to damage tanks with AP rounds (barely did any damage but did stop health regen/repair function)

[patent prism]

I'm not so much concerned with effect on vehicles tbh, I just want to kill campers hiding behind a sheet metal fence.

[lusty musk]

I want them to be more effective vs Vehicles because of Irish campers (and eventually Camilla) can’t get any explosives to get near the tanks to kill them

[patent prism]

Lighter vehicles, absolutely. I wouldn't mind being able to penetrate the windshield of the armored car I can't remember the name of to kill the occupant rather than just damage the vehicle.

But what do I know? I play 99% as infantry.

[lusty musk]

The EBLC-RAM, I completely agree with that one

[patent prism]

Yes, that thing. It's such a nuisance and given how agile and flexible it is, I think we should be able to use AP rounds to do damage to occupants either in addition to or instead of the vehicle, sort of like how you can shoot through the windshield of the Bolte without damaging the vehicle but only with AP ammo.

Same with the hovercraft.

[lusty musk]

Hovercraft windows are a pain to shoot through I just resort to rockets

[patent prism]

You can shoot through them? I can't recall ever managing to do that.

[lusty musk]

Kinda wish they could scale skyscrapers like they did at launch

It’s a very small hitbox but yes you can shoot through hovercraft windows

[patent prism]

Huh, neat.

[lusty musk]

I also wish they’d let us put AT mines on vehicles like previous titles, right now you try to and they just phase through the vehicles

Like the fast and furious: The Vehicle is fast, and the driver is furious that you keep killing them with your tank so they strapped explosives onto their LATV

[patent prism]

Wouldn't mind having the M6 SLAM AT mines back from BF4 myself, tbh. Would give vehicle crews more to worry about than just what lies straight in front of them.

[patent prism]

lmao

[lusty musk]

Funny enough the AT mines do more damage to vehicles than rockets in 2042

I think it’s 2 AT mines to kill a MBT whereas 4 rockets to kill an MBT

[patent prism]

Sounds likely.

[lusty musk]

let me strap an AT mine to my rocket

duct tape that shit together

[patent prism]

I was so saddened when I was trying out things with my friend where we tried to use McKay to grapple onto the gun barrel of the MBT and then spin the turret,

only to find out you couldn't grapple onto it because it has no hitbox.

[lusty musk]

The Spawn Helo’s have a hitbox, use that shit to parachute to an objective while everyone else runs

[patent prism]

That's actually a rather good idea.

[lusty musk]

I used it a bit in breakthrough to get behind enemy lines quickly

[patent prism]

Aye

Anyways, I gotta go

See ya around man, pleasure talking

[lusty musk]

Cya, been a pleasure

[plush linden]

Make map go night time too pls

[arctic grove]

anyone experiencing a bug with the pre-loading menu screen where it ins't loading?

option to dismiss is there but it doesn't move lol

[pearl ridge]

Ashe that little fuck

He’s blocking spotting!

[quaint vector]

EOD BOT is savage..

[ancient peak]

This dude over here flexing with the Chad bot

[next onyx]

Pain.

[pearl ridge]

Every time Ashe shows up the whole chat is roasting him

What’s it like being the most reviled man in an entire game

He didn’t even help his team worth a damn

[quaint vector]

I don't need weapons from Alex..

Just gimme EOD BOT

[sour steeple]

Soo. They nerfed Liz back to pre buff almost. Range now 475m . Currently 600m. And nerfed turning so its harder to turn for a 2nd chance after a miss. Thats good.

[inner roost]

Where are you seeing patch notes?

[lucid goblet]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-4-0-0

patch notes 🎉

[next onyx]

So yeah my original thoughts.

[clever marlin]

Oh boy

People are gonna HATE that lis change

600-475m range now

And less velocity

[next onyx]

https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/battlefield/battlefield-2042/common/patch-4-0-0/4-0-0-article-asset-8-fpo.jpg.adapt.1920w.jpg

It's so cute!

[next onyx]

Cool so I'm not hallucinating.

[ancient peak]

Well it’ll give people a reason to use the other launchers now

[next onyx]

This one will interest you.

[low timber]

Assault can carry two med pens as well, but only spawn with one

[next onyx]

It's... Interesting.

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

[ancient peak]

Oh. So heavy barrel works now? Huh.

[next onyx]

Nah heavy barrel only affected accuracy, recoil and velocity. Not RoF which is interesting.

Wait no.

So basically in bf3 at release heavy barrel only increased range.

They buffed it with increased accuracy and velocity.

[low timber]

Was expecting more changes tbh, like a frag grenade nerf

[tranquil star]

Ugh time to get beat on vehicles again

I'll go back to bf4

[next onyx]

Yeah that'd be nice Marse.

[tranquil star]

Lis only thing keeping vehicles balanced. Not like anyone uses soflam or anything. Teamwork doesn't exist unless you squad up here or elsewhere

[next onyx]

It never affected rate of fire so this change for the MTAR might just be a new thing for all the portal weapons or an exclusive option for the MTAR to make sure it doesn't over extend.

[ancient peak]

Hm, guess we’ll have to see

[low timber]

I wonder how much more stuff could be added in Kaleidoscope if they’d remove those vehicle stopper pillars that don’t block anything

[ember charm]

Didn't they just revert the Lizzle range back to what it was?

[low timber]

No

It was 450m originally

[ember charm]

Ok, so not really a nerf

[low timber]

And still no PF51 buff

[pastel loom]

claymore was fixed and only has a forward explosion

[ancient peak]

Man I need that BP Crawford skin. Looking forward to next season

[next onyx]

Yeah same.

It looks so good.

I love tacticool skins.

[last oasis]

Will their be an increase in xp this weekend like last weekend?

[royal trail]

the extra mission to get 15kills/assist with a lmg and get 10 points took me only a minute, i just joined a rush xl game and sprayed straight towards the enemies and it was done

[pearl ridge]

I suppose Lis needed that range reduction, but I’ve never seen Ashe get shot down so frequently until now

So at least keep the agility

[cosmic storm]

Hi, btw when the update is scheduled for ?

[pliant acorn]

Grenades have so much range

Idk if they should change it

But it's crazy

[royal trail]

they said in the development update that the new specialist is the last one they will add to the game, so further seasons wont have any more characters

rip

[ancient peak]

Tbh that’s fine. Their roster is diverse enough as it is.

[remote kiln]

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1629096546611482627?s=19

Battlefield (@Battlefield)

Jump into Flashpoint with Update 4.0 for #Battlefield 2042 going live across all platforms on Tuesday, February 28 @ 09:00 UTC

⏰ Season 4: Eleventh Hour Battle Pass starts on the same day @ 12:00 UTC

Update Notes 👇
https://t.co/sY0lKFMGLV

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2023, 12:30 PM

[lilac dust]

Ngl that's a pretty tame patch notes for a brand new season

[royal trail]

others games got pre-release builds you can play on that contain coming updates so they can fix stuff before the sharp release. why dont they add test builds to bf2042 aswell

[lusty musk]

This is EA we are talking about, you know that right?

[royal trail]

lol

[lilac dust]

You want a buff?????? 😳

That thing was a breeze to tier 1

[low timber]

It’s a 7 bullets to kill gun, 8 with suppressor!

[lusty musk]

I kinda want CoD’s gunsmith for customization in 2042, want to see the cursed shit everyone brings to the battlefield

[lilac dust]

Doesn't seem like too many bullets considering it's ROF and magazine size

[vagrant stirrup]

Breakaway

The Penguins have filled in a hole near B1 where players were unable to get out of if they had fallen victim to it. Pesky penguins

[low timber]

And max dmg range is only 10m, 20m with subsonics

[final plume]

Why I can't place the bomb with eod bot?!

[lusty musk]

You can just the hitbox for it is very shitty

[granite island]

Dear god

[final plume]

It prompts to press space and when I do it just disappears.

[quaint vector]

[pearl ridge]

Been getting more confident with nailing choppers with tgms

Seriously though they’re the only counter to high altitude stealth choppers the range nerf could be a problem

[lusty musk]

I’ve swapped over to nailing them as they fly by with the Gustav

[dapper night]

YOOOO They buffed the turn rate of the F-35

Let’s goooooo, now add one more Jet for both sides and we’re talking

[lusty musk]

They could also add vehicle balance to breakthrough, just a thought

[hard geyser]

Ooo notes already?

But don't we gotta wait til like next Tuesday

Sucks. Was there anything in the dev video that we didn't know? From the skim I did it didn't really seem like it

[lusty musk]

Still no news on which BF map they are bringing back

[hard geyser]

They gave concept art yeah?

surprised no one figured that out yet then

[copper ice]

large lis nerf while irish goes untouched

no change to flares

great

perfect

[sour steeple]

No changes to broken Transports...

[chilly jacinth]

cope

[copper ice]

god forbid they actually nerf a vehicle

[sharp marten]

Anime skin

[copper ice]

[copper ice]

they did nothing to make the AA launcher usable

they just made lis worse

everyone is still going to run lis

this changes nothing about actual meta other than sanding lis down

shes still going to be picked 90% of the time because boris is the worst spec in the game and crawford is mid

and flares being so oppressive makes the AA launcher feel awful to use so its barely ever picked, thus lis

this is a bandaid

[last oasis]

Does anyone know if we will see an xp boost this weekend to the battlepass?

[lusty musk]

if the aa launcher had a cluster customization lol

also think I might have come up with a solution to Irish Tank campers

[pliant acorn]

What needs to be nerfed?

[lusty musk]

When Irish is inside a vehicle any APS he has placed down will become inactive

[pine roost]

When even is the point of the IFV

If it’s purpose is to transport troops, it’s a transport

And these lis changes do literally nothing

You are still able to engage vehicles from complete safety, with a rocket that oneshots more than half the aircraft roster

But I hope I’m wrong

Will test it at launch

NO WAY

[radiant prism]

F-35 BUFF LETS GOOOOO

[pine roost]

This is the happiest I’ve been in a long while

[next onyx]

The buff to the f35 or the adjustment?

[pine roost]

I swear if they also fix the flight assist on helis this alone is one of the greatest patches yet

[sour steeple]

Nah man. Just give this thing a cooldown after it destroyed 3 projectiles.

[lusty musk]

That happiness will be short lived as soon as you die to a lis rocket lol

[pine roost]

That’s how desperate I’ve been for these changes

[pastel loom]

tightened the turning angle
is that a buff or nerf?

[vagrant cypress]

Wait, in the patch notes it’s says :

The End of Round sequence now explains what will happen after this transition phase. For example, if you switch sides if you stay in the lobby. You’ll now also be presented with a prompt to confirm if you’d like to exit -
Staying in lobbies? Are we talking about persistent lobbies?

[sour steeple]

Lobbys are already persistent. If you stay you end up in next round with same ppl.

Only in seasonal bt/cq lobbys arent persistent

[cosmic storm]

If you can turn with less radius, that means you can turn faster, so probably a buff yes

[vagrant cypress]

What? I didn’t know that

[copper ice]

irish APS, transport helis, the m5 in general should reload faster

[dapper night]

IFV’s purpose is to fight infantry and other light armored like the IFV in BF3/4 but since this game doesn’t have a separate category for mobile AA and IFV. It’s a mess

[pearl ridge]

Whacked a nightbird with a TGM and got “Lmao who RKO’d that nightbird” in chat

[solar tinsel]

love it

[pearl ridge]

Everyone hates those little bastards

[solar tinsel]

plus the general flight improvements, will hopefully make jets feel better

[pearl ridge]

Still doesn’t change their weapons being useless

[solar tinsel]

Plus: Im interpreting Lis' turning angle as a nerf due to this line

*"The turning adjustments introduced in this update will make it so the missile will be less agile, hindering its ability greatly to double-back on itself after an initial miss" *

I called that Lis would be getting a nerf - and rightfully so, her pick rate is probably so stupid high right now, and people had been doubling back with the same rocket

[pearl ridge]

When going after nightbirds, coming back around is mandatory

[solar tinsel]

Ultimately I think there are better ways to go after nightbirds, considering how agile they are

[balmy crag]

When is the new update?

[solar tinsel]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-4-0-0

[stray python]

Server browser ain't gonna happen, but squad management is a must, and points accumulation when killing, capping, healing etc in a short time period, brahs

[solar tinsel]

I thought DICE mentioned in a pod episode that they were looking into some degree of improved squad functionality

might still be a ways out - like late S4 or sometime S5 though if true

[still vault]

#direct-communication message

[stray python]

Can vehicle players still use keybind macros to get vehicles first everytime? Or has that been fixed with a delay or cool down? So annoying, can never get the helicopter when someone uses a macro keybind

[pearl ridge]

They’re still doing that

I fucking hate those campers

[cosmic storm]

Macros ? You just have to hardclick and you get in before any console player

[pearl ridge]

Doesn’t stop them

[acoustic seal]

ah yes, smashing enter is my favorite "keybind macro"

[pearl ridge]

We’re dealing with people who would rather wait at the spawn screen for five minutes straight to get a new chopper than to just play like normal people

Ashe in particular is a major macro user. It’s plainly visible thanks to his stupid streams

[cosmic storm]

Don't take one guy and make a generality out if it

[pearl ridge]

It’s not hard to presume that vehicle whores employ similar tactics

[stray python]

They all use keybind macros to get helis all the time first, how can smashing keyboard beat 0ms macro?

[cosmic storm]

Latency, lag, rollback... many thing actually.
But that's not the point. How many people know how to use macro anyway ?

[stray python]

All 2042 streamer vehicle players

[pearl ridge]

Yeah this game isn’t exactly what we’d call secure

[remote meteor]

no weapon nerfs and buffs on tuesday?

[pearl ridge]

The only thing stopping hackers from running rampant is the fact that the cheat makers didn’t even bother doing anything

[stray python]

No spectator mode, a basic feature from every game or ping in scoreboard of other users

[arctic grove]

and no commander

[stray python]

Commander mode was annoying , constant uavs, and lopsided when one had a commander and one team didn't

[arctic grove]

if only there's ai commander