enemy chaser
#battlefield-2042
wintry parrot
They won't, she's assault
pine roost
It’s hard to really describe, but the best way I could put it is that before it felt as if it would change its speed as you were moving in one consistent motion, this version feels far more consistent
Will try it out some more when I get home
idle lion
They won't, she's assault
what about the recon guys?
cause usually they were the guys with C5s
4*
wintry parrot
One sec lemme check
idle lion
also is the weaponry gonna become class specific too?
pine roost
No
idle lion
thank fuck
pine roost
Which I don’t mind as much now
idle lion
i hated that about the previous games
wintry parrot
cause usually they were the guys with C5s
Yeah recon gets jeep stuff too
lilac dust
also is the weaponry gonna become class specific too?
You will get light bonuses for using a weapon that is recommended for that class
pine roost
I think it definitely helped to create a team structure, having weapon classes. But now it’s gone way past the point of it being beneficial to have
idle lion
You will get light bonuses for using a weapon that is recommended for that class
now thats good game design
fringe spire
how do I reset my gun settings to default ? all the attachments etc
pine roost
It’s neat
next onyx
Don't be sad.
pine roost
But the recon one is practically pointless
next onyx
This is just how things work out sometimes.
pine roost
Don’t say it
idle lion
This is just how things work out sometimes.
;-; naurrrr
wintry parrot
But the recon one is practically pointless
How so?
fringe spire
Also Chalseu currently there's no way.
pine roost
Well a longer hold breath duration isn’t all that much
low timber
There’s no Way? 
next onyx
No.
idle lion
Well a longer hold breath duration isn’t all that much
oh i thought it meant xp bonus
;-;
eager spire
Maybe
pine roost
I know I literally haven’t touched that since I just started playing bf4
pine roost
oh i thought it meant xp bonus
Ah, yeah no. It’s stuff like assault classes having faster ads with assault rifles, I think support get better accuracy when prone and snipers get the breath thing
next onyx
This game is cursed.
How is that Imy team with the biggest difference in kills to the enemy still loses.
lol.
idle lion
what is your guys opinion to tbagging someone after killing them with a shotgun
low timber
How is that Imy team with the biggest difference in kills to the enemy still los...
They didn’t PTFO
next onyx
If you use a shotgun you deserve the worst what's coming to you.,
The irony marse.
Is that the people who kill the most are the ones who clear out objective.s
But it's like..
The fuck.
low timber
Pilot mains take objectives?
eager spire
what is your guys opinion to tbagging someone after killing them with a shotgun
If you tbag after getting a shotgun kill I think you should just immediately die
Like, just drop dead.
edgy oriole
kill more doesnt = clearing the obj. more kills is just farming the poor souls that are trying to get to obj
wintry parrot
what is your guys opinion to tbagging someone after killing them with a shotgun
I think Tbagging in general is poor sportsmanship
eager spire
kill more doesnt = clearing the obj. more kills is just farming the poor souls t...
That is factually incorrect
idle lion
I think Tbagging in general is poor sportsmanship
i agree but if you did something really EPIC i might be like, well its okay this time
eager spire
Like, genuinely I don’t know what was going through your head when you typed this
edgy oriole
its true
eager spire
No it’s not
edgy oriole
then why diid his team lose
pine roost
kill more doesnt = clearing the obj. more kills is just farming the poor souls t...
Well you can’t clear an objective without killing people on it
wintry parrot
i agree but if you did something really EPIC i might be like, well its okay this...
It its a revenge Tbag, yeah
edgy oriole
Well you can’t clear an objective without killing people on it
they didnt kill the people on the obj
idle lion
but the shotgun people, nah man
next onyx
Because my team somehow wasn't pushing when it mattered.
eager spire
Because his team didn’t push up its simple dingus
edgy oriole
Because his team didn’t push up its simple dingus
damn thats crazy. almost like kills dont capture obj.
eager spire
damn thats crazy. almost like kills dont capture obj.
Kills clear off obj tho
next onyx
Kills clear the objective.
edgy oriole
next onyx
What's the use of pushing an objective if your team just dies.
These people, Even I. We were killing.
wintry parrot
Or prevent someone from moving on an objective
eager spire
You can laugh emoji all you want, it’s literally true
wintry parrot
Every kill is a potential objective defended
eager spire
Also, input things happened
next onyx
Jaimzii was the only one I was concerned about fighting.
eager spire
Apparently the game had issues above 500hz polling.
eager spire
Which is interesting for a game made in 2021
lilac dust
Did they say why they removed one of the buildings on the B hill in manifest? That's one of my favourite features of the map and we only have one of them now 😢
pine roost
Try walking to the objective and asking nicely to capture it, see how far that gets ya
lilac dust
Considering manifest didn't really need much added cover IMO I think they could've easily kept the building and added less cover overall
topaz field
Woww new sundance helmet/rebreather!
next onyx
Try walking to the objective and asking nicely to capture it, see how far that g...
Last time I did that I shot someone in the head with a revolver because they looked at me funny.
low timber
They also removed the two buildings on each side of the vehicle toll
wintry parrot
Woww new sundance helmet/rebreather!
NEW HELMET?
topaz field
NEW HELMET?
yeah im more happy for the respirator lol
and helmet
i was tired of the beanies
pine roost
These actually look like good outfits
kindred flint
Did they say why they removed one of the buildings on the B hill in manifest? Th...
The one between the 2 caps? 
Didn't even notice that when running around
slender isle
All these skins look great
wintry parrot
I want it in my bones
next onyx
It's not out yet.
wintry parrot
Fuse it to my skeleton immediately
topaz field
prob net week or two weeks we get it
next onyx
But generally looks like they're just keeping to the Nordvik sponsor theme.
lilac dust
The one between the 2 caps? <:WoahThink:562440526021001230> Didn't even notice t...
yeah there's only one building now. There was previously another building opposite. I think it was bigger too. I miss it
kindred flint
Old spice sponsor when?
kindred flint
They removed our cranes and roof tops 
eager spire
But yeah, if you ran your mouse above 500hz polling rate, you were causing yourself to have minor instances of input lag, which only got worse as you go higher than that.
topaz field
And irish finally gets a cool skin
they're introducing IRISH BF4 skin soon too it seems
pine roost
But boris looks like he is simultaneously looking at me and to the right a bit
kindred flint
lazy eye
slender isle
Irish always gets left out lmao
eager spire
Which is very interesting for a video game released in 2021, I don’t know how nobody testing at DICE picked up on that.
I guess they don’t run high polling rate mice over there.
edgy oriole
Irish always gets left out lmao
until they kill him off
pine roost
I mean his face is looking at me. But his head and helmet seems to be tilted
wintry parrot
But generally looks like they're just keeping to the Nordvik sponsor theme.
I do like the private security/loss prevention vibe for them
pine roost
I guess they don’t run high polling rate mice over there.
bfV couldn’t handle 8K either
slender isle
My fix for most people pre 3.1 was set it to 500
Not knowing if it worked but thinking it wouldn’t hurt to try
I was right to say it lmao
eager spire
bfV couldn’t handle 8K either
Were 8k mice a thing when BFV came out
topaz field
i hope the costmetics for the next event looks more bad ass than these
slender isle
i hope the costmetics for the next event looks more bad ass than these
How do you get more bad ass?
pine roost
Idk whether they were at its launch, but when I got bfV I had the viper 8k and it just didn’t work
edgy oriole
inb4 more plain white event skins
slender isle
inb4 more plain white event skins
Too late
edgy oriole
eager spire
I was right to say it lmao
Yeah but still, sucks that people had to intentionally gimp their mice for them to work properly in this AAA video game released in 2021
slender isle
We already know 8 skins for the event
wintry parrot
I hope they expand on nordvik and the other background organisations in 2042 in the future
slender isle
4 black force and 4 nordvik forces
edgy oriole
black eh. i like that
slender isle
Yeah but still, sucks that people had to intentionally gimp their mice for them ...
Yeah true, but I’m happy it’s fixed. All that’s left is the recoil bug now lmao
eager spire
Idk whether they were at its launch, but when I got bfV I had the viper 8k and i...
Yeah rip, well at least it works in 2042 now.
topaz field
How do you get more bad ass?
i mean these skins looks freaking great, they should keep adding them this way etc. I cant really explain it how id want them to make them better
pine roost
Yeah
wintry parrot
I hust want more full-face helmets
slender isle
i mean these skins looks freaking great, they should keep adding them this way e...
Oh 100%. Did you see the most recent falk skin? Very cool
wintry parrot
I'd love a pilot-style skin for sundance
pine roost
Ever since I’ve had my mouse set to 1k in fear of it not working right, because of that I don’t even know what sifference 8k makes
slender isle
I hust want more full-face helmets
I want one for falk that isn’t white lmao
topaz field
I hust want more full-face helmets
wym?
wintry parrot
Like, helmets with masks, visors, etc.
topaz field
like sundance?
wintry parrot
Yeah, I'd love to get a pilot flightsuit looking set for her
topaz field
Yeah, I'd love to get a pilot flightsuit looking set for her
ohh yeahh that would be dope
from the trailer i dunno why they didnt release that colorway helmet it seems to be the T1 now
slender isle
I’d love to get one that looks like dozers bf4 helmet but put onto someone like Mackay or Angel
topaz field
the liquidators had some nice helmets too
i just didnt like how sundance got a faceshield 😦
slender isle
I like the liquidator skins (I have them all)
lilac dust
Wait so did they just get rid of literally every building on manifest and left us with one on the hill..... Wasn't there a ton scattered around the lower parts of the map
topaz field
i dunno what is it about hte liquidator skins they spooky as hell give me the creeps i always freeze when i see someone wearing it lmfao
next onyx
Lis's and Caspers were the only nicer ones.
But for the price they were all going for with the prices.
Yeah nah fuck that.
wintry parrot
How much were they
next onyx
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjdOg-uWAAMYnjM?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
These skins are epic by the way.
They ranged from 1500 to 1750.
wintry parrot
Wow
next onyx
Which was stupid.
next onyx
1250 to 1500 would of made more sense.
The four horsemen of the apocalypse might be worth going for.
wintry parrot
I wish they did it like, the micro events are completely free, and only the seasons are paid for
lilac dust
The more I learn about manifest's changes the more I dislike it.... I was very hopeful at first, but losing all those buildings just takes away a lot of it's identity IMO. It's leaning towards being a night time noshnar canals now
wintry parrot
Like halo infinites mini-events, thats a good way of doing it
next onyx
I dunno man if you want to get people to buy these sets en masse, Make it affordable not a stupid marker.
pine roost
Probably counted to the asset count and they needed to remove them to add the rest of the stuff
topaz field
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10749013/10/1 @slender isle
idle lion
ai copilots are useless lmao
wintry parrot
I dunno man if you want to get people to buy these sets en masse, Make it afford...
I wouldn't mind them making the events paid for through BFC, just cheaper than the full battlepass
topaz field
ai copilots are useless lmao
liesssss
next onyx
I just saw this.
topaz field
AI are deadly as fk
next onyx
That is adorable.
lilac dust
They really should've cut some areas of the map to keep all the building assets. That is a damn shame. I didn't know what we had until it was lost 😢
next onyx
Dude a bot in the volley pod annihilated my whole squad with a single burst.
topaz field
That is adorable.
nice catch!
robust vapor
wintry parrot
Bots are scarily good at target acquisition
Suck at everything else, but I've found its near impossible to sneak around them most of the time
pine roost
They are bots, your survival is determined by a percentage chance
They flick you with perfect accuracy with a pkp
wintry parrot
Othertimes they'll stare at a wall or walk into a shipping container
Its very funny
idle lion
whoa... bf2042 is so beutiful when you breach the cloud cover with the jet...
pine roost
Certainly looks good
Overall the game does just look good
The particle effects are especially well done
idle lion
even on all low and dlss on ultra performance and 1024x768 resolution
it still looks so fucking good
robust vapor
Waiting for a bot to t-bag me after I get killed
idle lion
cant wait to try flying above the clouds when i get a new pc
wintry parrot
2042 looks great for me besides the start of the round animation of jumping out of the condor/super hind
Its so jittery
lilac dust
Exiting a condor that is high speed while playing as sundance is a hell of an adrenaline rush
pine roost
I do wish they’d cut down on all the arbitrary countdown timers though
wintry parrot
Exiting a condor that is high speed while playing as sundance is a hell of an ad...
The best kind
pine roost
Get into the action a bit faster
wintry parrot
I just want to be able to get out of vehicles I might have gotten in on the spawn menu at the start of a round
I don't wanna be locked in for deployment :(, I wanna be unlocked
lilac dust
Should say "Locked in to be taken hostage"
wintry parrot
'Locked in to immediately smash into the ground because the pilot can't fly'
idle lion
Exiting a condor that is high speed while playing as sundance is a hell of an ad...
i wish there was fps mode of the wingsuit
thatd be sick
wintry parrot
That'd be cool
radiant prism
smote by the gods
wintry parrot
God said no
grave vigil
How's the m4?
next onyx
The m416 kinda sucks.
It's a 5HK with the heavy barrel out to 74m.
At that point it's a superior STOCK m5a3.
Which if you prefer that that's fine.
idle lion
HOLY SHIT I FLEW DOWN THE TORNADO BODY
lilac dust
Orbital has lightning?
grave vigil
The m416 kinda sucks.
Unfortunate findings
idle lion
brings lighting with
wintry parrot
How's the m4?
Its a portal weapon, portal weapons in general kinda smell bad
lilac dust
Huh well I'll be damned
wintry parrot
They're more filler than anything
fierce gull
The m416 kinda sucks.
I like it cuz the laser sight is on the other side of the barrel
wintry parrot
The XM8 lmg is decent though in my experience
idle lion
i was just chilling with my hokum in a solo match and then boom zeus decided to smite me
scared the shit outta me
wintry parrot
They'd be better if you could run 2042 attachments on them
idle lion
im not sure if it was it hitting me or me freaking out but my entire heli flipped
spiral folio
Yea thats my beef too
wintry parrot
I wish portal guns felt like actual parts of 2042s weapon roster, rather than filler guns
lilac dust
Shame it’s as midnight for me but anyways hype!
oh fuck it's midnight for me too lol Guess I'll be watching some of it tomorrow
pine roost
Yeah I’ve got work from 8-4, yet again. But plan on watching the whole thing after
Hopefully there are some new announcements
tacit sphinx
I wish portal guns felt like actual parts of 2042s weapon roster, rather than fi...
yeah that’s my issue with them as well, they’re fine but like no skins, significantly limited customisation options just means they feel a little flat
tiny tartan
When will large Maps be added to Custom Conquest
spiral folio
I dont think you get all the ammo options others get with the gol either
So then when the class nerf hits youll be low on ammo
wintry parrot
"In this update we added a few new quality of life updates, including some edits to the stats of vehicles and some gadgets! Oh, and we added mediocre portal gun #1, mediocre portal gun #2, and medicore portal gun #3! Enjoy unlocking them and never once touching them after a single game because they're outclassed by everything!"
kindred flint
Lmao wait what...sirland is back??
tacit sphinx
yeah that as well, the limited options means you can’t tune them to how you want to use them so they often end up just underperforming
lilac dust
"In this update we added a few new quality of life updates, including some edits...
I think the weapons team tries a little too hard to make sure the vault weapons don't outclass other guns lol
safe inlet
"In this update we added a few new quality of life updates, including some edits...
The Portal guns tend to be fine, the M60 is the only one I’ve noticed is seriously outclassed so far
But that’s just my opinion
spiral folio
Id like them to add rhe m95 but my memory of its greatness wont match the disappointing outcome
wintry parrot
Man I'm so glad I unlocked the blimbleflorp 42 from battlefield 4! Time to use i-and it sucks! Nevermind
Back to literally anything else 
lilac dust
Yo Blimbleflorp sounds like a fun gun. Gimme
tacit sphinx
The Portal guns tend to be fine, the M60 is the only one I’ve noticed is serious...
m60 is a weird one where it still feels kind of off to use but is also very powerful
spiral folio
I mean first off you carried like 90 rounds in previous games
wintry parrot
Yo Blimbleflorp sounds like a fun gun. Gimme
Leaked season 4 gun
tacit sphinx
tbf most of them do fine, it would just be nice to actually have the options other things do - extended mags, grips etc
safe inlet
m60 is a weird one where it still feels kind of off to use but is also very powe...
Hits like a freight train if you can hit the target
tacit sphinx
im not a fan of the red dots and stuff on them either, much prefer the style of the 2042 optics
tiny tartan
Hits like a freight train if you can hit the target
A freight train hits like a M60
safe inlet
A freight train hits like a M60
pine roost
It hits like a bullet
kindred flint
If i have the option between a AM40 and a M416 im gonna pick the AM40
Sounds like muscle car beats import everytime...
next onyx
m60 has tonnes of range but that's why you use it. The m416 feels like an inferior xm8.
I dunno.
The m416 has more mobility which is nice.
tiny tartan
<:OpenEye:638927740661399553>
since when are you mod here funny roman
next onyx
But I'd rather take a hundred round nipple mag over that.
tacit sphinx
im not a fan of the red dots and stuff on them either, much prefer the style of ...
(that said i’d like the eotech 2x holo on the 2042 guns, the 8r holo is similar in design but just doesn’t hit those same design notes)
safe inlet
since when are you mod here funny roman
I’m just le trainee and like a month or somewhere near that
tiny tartan
I’m just le trainee and like a month or somewhere near that
bf2042 is currently in buildup 💀
wintry parrot
Hows the P-90 in 2042 anyways?
tacit sphinx
i think my ideal thing would be like
stick the 2042 camos on all the vault guns and give them t1s
give them all the 2042 attachments (probably overwriting the existing ones because they fit in differently, maybe a couple get kinda ported)
polish up the bf3 optics and put those on all guns, could probably just slip them in the existing mastery levels tbh
wintry parrot
I unlocked it after using the K30, never gave it a go
tacit sphinx
yeah the p90 is good, competitive with like the mp9
tacit sphinx
i think my ideal thing would be like
>stick the 2042 camos on all the vault guns...
also reskin the ‘default’ underbarrel grenade launcher to the m320 or something i hate the 2042 style one
next onyx
I went and played rush of the ages and HOLY HELL the p90 there BEAMS.
tiny tartan
I went and played rush of the ages and HOLY HELL the p90 there BEAMS.
wait the locker weapon behaves differently from the portal one?
spiral folio
They screw over total ammo load and some other stuff so its not a 1 to 1 carry over
Thats kinda what I'm afraid of for the m95
next onyx
Yeah 2042 portal weapons perform differently.
spiral folio
In bf3 portal it carries like 100 rounds. So that wont happen. They hate snipers too much for that
topaz field
Smfh can't believe I was in a match guy in Hindi dominate entire team went 90-2
spiral folio
Using a flying tank with few weaknesses is hard
I always swear off gunning for those then i do it and immediately regret it
They move around in the worst ways
Somehow i end up on the side that faces nothing every time or the guy flies off the map or in enemy territory being pulverized so ya cant bail
Ohsh an enemy i can -spool up-
-tilts wildly away-
chilly jacinth
skill issue
ashen stream
may i ask what are some players have different level tag like its like red 0056 or something
next onyx
It's pretty much just level 99+
shy latch
may i ask what are some players have different **level tag** like its like red 0...
when you reach level 99 after that instead to be lvl 100 is S001
am i the only one genuinely worried about the upcoming class system?
shy latch
just 120 is impossible, probably was S120
chilly jacinth
S stands for shitbucket
spiral folio
Nah classes gonna be a shit show
People think more restrictions will be good somehow
"Daaah wiff cwasses i can be a medic"
You can be a medic right nooow
Just carry medic stuff
limpid pond
spiral folio
Its that easy
limpid pond
I disnt even knoww there was a secret reload
spiral folio
I dont even know what a secret reload is
limpid pond
I dont even know what a secret reload is
Watch the video. Apparently it's been in the game for a while
spiral folio
Just say what it is
shy latch
yeah I don't know why people have been obsessed with the classes, I mean if a game have been developed without the classes in mind why would you want them?
chilly jacinth
It's a reload that is secret
spiral folio
Anything classes CAN do
You can do now thats the part i dont get
The only thing ive heard is
"Daah... its good to see what loadouts an enemy has"
Cuz what
Youll NOT shoot them? It makes a difference? See red, shoot til ded
Hit it til it breaks
shy latch
exactly
spiral folio
Like ammo people have an icon on them already
People asking for health or ammo also have an icon
still vault
hey <@216911809133674497> nice hat
You got to have a nice hat!
spiral folio
It just adds fences to constrict gameplay
The one i hate is
"Every bf game has had it. Classes define the game"
Alternate phrasing for
"Its always been this way"
Like welp... that settles it
chilly jacinth
and each class system has been slightly different
and this one we have currently is also slightly different
shy latch
the funny thing is that people get bored about the exact same stuff, but then when introduce something new they want the things that were before
spiral folio
Ive never seen people beg harder to have more rules
They act like its just adding lines on the road and itll make things easier.
Nah its more like making more roads 1 way streets to make everything worse
spiral folio
Why even have it
robust vapor
what blood mist?
topaz field
bruhhhh
shy latch
blood mist? is that 2042 or DayZ?
spiral folio
The cartoonishly large blood explosion when somebody's shot
shy latch
damn, I didn't notice that
chilly jacinth
i shoot alot of dudes and it hasn't bothered me once
spiral folio
I dont like excess gore/blood for gores sake
kindred flint
It's just the movie 300 style of people dying
spiral folio
Its lame
shy latch
I red about blood on the patch notes but didn't notice while in game
topaz field
yeah its there lol
spiral folio
Somebodys shot it doesn't knock 5 gallons of blood out of em
chilly jacinth
depends on the caliber
spiral folio
Especially with 40 pounds of gear on
kindred flint
Unless they have 130psi running through their veins
topaz field
lmfaoooooo
chilly jacinth
just shoot em with a tank shell and turn em into human paste
shy latch
*for those using another system: 130psi are about 8,9 bar/atm
chilly jacinth
time to turn my polling rate up on my mouse
sharp marten
I’m fairly new to Twitter as in tweeting who is David sirland liek what did he do at dice?
chilly jacinth
fix bf4 supposedly
lilac dust
Man even the beach area got removed..... So many questionable decisions about this rework. Could've removed plenty of the cargo area and make the beach area a point
chilly jacinth
no
arctic grove
yeah I don't know why people have been obsessed with the classes, I mean if a ga...
To be fair this logic can be used to justify a lot of things that are missing in this game
It doesn’t make it okay just cause the game wasn’t designed on launch with it, change isn’t always good just cause they changed something
lilac dust
no
With all the buildings removed apart from 1, and the beach area removed, this is just a glorified noshnar canals at night now
chilly jacinth
also no
arctic grove
Like CoDs new perk system that gives you your perks as you play the match. As opposed to traditional perks that you got and were active as soon as you spawned. Change isn’t good just because they changed something
radiant prism
Tbh I like the atmosphere of this version of manifest a lot more
spiral folio
To be fair this logic can be used to justify a lot of things that are missing in...
Map zoom sure but
"NO dont let me pick my own stuff! GIVE ME MORE RULES how can i be a medic without rules!"
lilac dust
Tbh I like the atmosphere of this version of manifest a lot more
Yeah I like that a lot, but man we lost so much of it's identity with the removal of all those buildings and the beach area
arctic grove
I don’t really have anything to say about the map but more rules better promotes the classes respective roles
spiral folio
Like missing enhancements make sense but its hillarious people woll scream at you about how hard they want more rules
It doesn't
arctic grove
Because it fucks with what it actually means to play recon if you can double the role of an engineer with recon, also general vehicle infantry balancing issues
shy latch
It doesn’t make it okay just cause the game wasn’t designed on launch with it, c...
it's not a matter to be good or not from the development , it's just what the creators had in mind; instead the change (especially big change) couldn't be good when something is already there from long time
spiral folio
Would it blow your mind if i told you EVERYONE in the army is trained to use a rocket launcher?
Even the cooks and bulldozers
arctic grove
Yes I’m pretty sure they are.. but this is a video game, and in real life infantrymen don’t carry rockets
spiral folio
Dont they
arctic grove
In real life there are designated roles. You have automatic infantrymen that carry LMGs
Infantrymen with standard carbines/rifles
spiral folio
But also these are mercenaries
shy latch
but as you said that's a video game (arcade) and not a real life simulation game
radiant prism
It doesn’t matter what the IRL roles are. BF has never conformed to that
spiral folio
And they should carry whatever the fuck they want
shy latch
so who cares
radiant prism
The benefit of giving options to anyone is the fact that you allow people to adhere to their playstyle much better than rigid classes do.
arctic grove
Who cares about mercenaries when this is a franchise characterized by classes that promote different in game roles with their own gadget and gun selection
spiral folio
Forcing people to pick a class wont maagically force teamplay to exist
The only way is if it gives masssive recognition and xp and scoreboard points
arctic grove
Maybe it’s time to dip the mercenary thing since it clearly isn’t working
spiral folio
If revives scored as well as flag caps. Shit that's all you'd ever see
Youd have medics fighting over revives
radiant prism
If someone wants to run a sniper with an M5, I don’t see a problem with that because ultimately they’re sacrificing the ability to be truly effective as either antitank or recon by trying to do both. They’re just shooting themselves in the foot either way by not choosing to go all out, but it still gives them the option
arctic grove
Classes simply have better incentive toward teamplay, this is the entire point
spiral folio
Yea people should pick the best build for their play style
radiant prism
Doesn’t change the fact that the best builds are still the ones that emulate classes
spiral folio
There is ZERO incentive added by shoehorning people into classes
radiant prism
If I have an LMG you know damn well I’m using ammo
grave vigil
god it's so weird to use any other specialist outside of Mackay
the movement ability just diminishes so hard
spiral folio
Some specialists clearly benefit certain playstyles and roles better but i hate the most thst specialists ate stuck to classes
Ive always used Mackay as a sniper
radiant prism
If I have an AR, a med box is my best friend, just like BF4. Or, an RPG if I want to go with more of a tank hunter role like BF1 or BFVs assault
spiral folio
And rao seems better as somebody whos up close ie engineer
Disable a vehicle. Rocket it
arctic grove
I’m fully behind putting gadgets back into proper restrictions that will better promote teamplay (why else will you play Support, if it isn’t to support) and prevent a years worth of fucked vehicle gameplay where you’re locked onto or shot at by different rockets repeatedly since anyone can use them with rather negligible drawbacks, since even if you need ammo or heals there’s plenty of those thrown down, mostly by specialists that are not support anyways
Damn that long paragraph lol
spiral folio
But because clown world
Rao is recon
radiant prism
But because clown world
Rao is recon
Mainly because rao was originally intended to be more of a spotter than a disabler. DICE acknowledged that and have said they plan to emphasize his role as a vehicle killer more.
shy latch
I mean, for me this mindset to have open choices for weapons and gadget for anyone isn't really bad, of course someone could think "it forces the game to have more lone wolves and less team play" but that's incorrect as well because (as we already saw) a good team play it's always stronger than lone wolves even at the actual status of the game
spiral folio
Mainly because rao was originally intended to be more of a spotter than a disabl...
Well they messed up cause all the abilities they have for him made him better as an engineer
radiant prism
But how many people actually do it
A lot, in my experience
arctic grove
It’s a mixed bag. I’m not here to say 2042 has significantly less, the same amount, or more teamplay than other games. I don’t know, sometimes I’m constantly picked up, sometimes it feels like absolutely nobody is playing for the team
lilac dust
Did the G57 get buffed yesterday or something? Why is everyone suddenly running around with it lol
spiral folio
This is why clases are stupid. Because people can better forge their own path better than
"Noooo hes not supposed to do thaaat"
arctic grove
But with 2042s open loadouts it really puts into question any incentive to fulfill a support role as a support specialist
radiant prism
Did the G57 get buffed yesterday or something? Why is everyone suddenly running ...
M93R unlock requirements
lilac dust
M93R unlock requirements
Ohhhhhhh
spiral folio
But with 2042s open loadouts it really puts into question any incentive to fulfi...
Imo the best incentive to like revives and ammo support was the scoreboard
radiant prism
G57 is already goated though?
spiral folio
If you want an idiot to do something. Dangle food/reward in front of em
stiff pollen
Fr
arctic grove
Imo the best incentive to like revives and ammo support was the scoreboard
Revives and stuff still will get you top 5 on scoreboard btw
spiral folio
Not as well as it used to
arctic grove
Use the ammo box, proximity grenades and Falck or Angel
radiant prism
3 round burst and watch the bodies drop like it’s John wick
arctic grove
Cheese through the scoreboard
stiff pollen
The Glock can fucking 1 burst, it’s hilarious
spiral folio
The current scoreboard js ultra stupid.
Just go back to xp
radiant prism
The Glock can fucking 1 burst, it’s hilarious
Which is great IMO
stiff pollen
It’s better than the damn PBX
radiant prism
NO
arctic grove
I don’t know how the old and current ones differ personally
spiral folio
I hate how they do scoreboard now on this
radiant prism
YOU PUT SOME RESPECT ON MY BOY
stiff pollen
THE GLOCK MELTS
next onyx
Hey yeah so.
radiant prism
PBX my beloved I’m so sorry you had to hear that
next onyx
If you want someone to blame.
stiff pollen
IT IS LITERALLY UNFAIR
next onyx
I might of suggested this to Alex a few months ago.
To give it a 28 damage model. The g57.
spiral folio
Bf1 bf5 ranked by xp earned
2042 is like
2x for kills, 3x for flags, 1x for assists
stiff pollen
Tbf the single fire just sucks
radiant prism
Tbh it’s not really unfair when anyone can use it from day 1
arctic grove
Personally speaking here, so I’m not opposed to the g57 nerf, but I only pull out my sidearms if I run out of ammo anyways, typically I’ve already hit my target enough to finish them with the sidearm anyways, so I never thought much about them being buffed
But for players that are actually playing them to T1 them I totally understand that
spiral folio
I think revives are 1x
next onyx
But make it a dual burst but now the NVK P125 does it what have I done.
radiant prism
G57 could probably use a slight nerf, especially at range
arctic grove
So aye, if they’re stronger that’s good
next onyx
Yeah the g57 could use a bit less range.
radiant prism
But it’s not a bad thing IMO to have good secondaries
spiral folio
Blame Way for classes
arctic grove
Aye man
spiral folio
Also blame him for uh.. exposures changes
stiff pollen
The single fire on the Glock is pretty Garbo but otherwise it’s great and the burst fire makes it incredibly busted
If I didn’t run the Rex
radiant prism
The single fire on the Glock is pretty Garbo but otherwise it’s great and the bu...
Tbh a lot of people don’t even know the G57 has burst
arctic grove
With some of the things taken out of past BF games and put back into another one I am inclined to say classes will never be replaced again
stiff pollen
I found out when dice invited me to Stockholm on their personal test server
And fed me wine and cheese
radiant prism
Lol
arctic grove
But just like visual recoil in 4 to bf1, or 3d spotting from v to 2042 there’s no guarantee
next onyx
Just give me another SCAR.
That's all I care about.
The hills are alive with the sound of the SCAR.
arctic grove
Once the gl glitched off my SFAR. I’m pretty sure I spoke about it before
shy latch
Way = SCAR
spiral folio
With some of the things taken out of past BF games and put back into another one...
So close to freedom just for people to beg for chains
radiant prism
BFV did it best IMO
arctic grove
Freedom came with too many balancing issues
radiant prism
Honestly I’ll just be laughing if this class rework completely fucks the game
arctic grove
I’d be willing to see the effect of open loadouts in a 64p max supported lobby BF game
spiral folio
"What if we balanced weapons based on how lethal they are"
"Get out..."
arctic grove
But if you double the amount of people that can shoot at me… then let them use any gadgets they want, it’s bound to cause problems
That’s just the way it is and that’s what happened
stiff pollen
Honestly the class rebalance can’t come soon enough
spiral folio
And its not like theyll increase sniper ammo loads because if you run pure recon, now you gotta go get ammo. And maps are larger
stiff pollen
I’m very tired of every falck carrying a recoilless shoved up their ass
arctic grove
I can understand disliking it but I mean to say classes as a system are inferior or bad is just
Idek man
fringe spire
is there a way to make the aks74u work or is it just too bad
stiff pollen
The whole identity of battlefield is classes
spiral folio
Modular builds just obsoleted the idea of rigid loadouts
stiff pollen
is there a way to make the aks74u work or is it just too bad
You make it work by using the PP instead
radiant prism
is there a way to make the aks74u work or is it just too bad
Heavy barrel helps a little bit…but yeah it’s kinda bad lol
spiral folio
Like it makes logical sense if youre a long range sniper... might bring an ammo box
Probably dont need a recoilless if youre sniping at 500m
radiant prism
I wish I hadn’t committed to getting the AKS to T1
fringe spire
wym to t1
arctic grove
That’s definitely a con to the class system, but nonetheless one that has a solution. We shouldn’t phase out the entire class system for it’s own cons which are bound to happen
fringe spire
I like the hybrid approach to classes they're going to bring
radiant prism
Probably dont need a recoilless if youre sniping at 500m
And if you do end up in close range enough to use the M5, you’re at a major disadvantage against infantry because you’ve picked a sniper
spiral folio
Snipers get it worst imo
arctic grove
Cause then we get stuck on where to go, everything has pros and cons
astral cloud
We need a 64p perman mode
stiff pollen
Look honestly I think every class should use whatever weapon
But gadgets should be restricted for sure
arctic grove
And in this case I would argue that there are more cons associated with open loadouts which I can’t stress enough
Proficiencies might help to sway classes to their typical categories without locking them in it
radiant prism
My worry is that the class change is going to absolutely murder certain playstyles
stiff pollen
The result is that you have falcks running around with c4 thinking they’re AT when their whole job is healing and resupplying
arctic grove
Gib engie C5
spiral folio
Like the work around to ammo is "just pick a support" but then your choices are the med-gnlun falk (maybe)
minigun emplacement guy (greeaat for sniping) or whats the 3rd "support" the "barrier guy"?
hybrid compass
I'm just curious.
When this game came out, it had very negative reviews. I played it and I found it enjoyable.
My question is: what did people not like about 2042? Why were there so many negative reviews?
stiff pollen
Also the rework actually looks to make the lesser used gadgets actuallu viable
spiral folio
They also work in slight nerfs to like rifle scope steady if you pick non-recon
stiff pollen
Like the repair tool was never pulled out unless you’re using a vehicle or you’re expecting to repair a condor
arctic grove
That’s a pretty cool profile picture glacier
2042 pretty much has its own rabbit hole of problems
radiant prism
Also…anyone else think about how this is going to make the game even more of a “”””hero shooter”””” that people so love to say it is?
arctic grove
Wdym? Curious
stiff pollen
I mean
next onyx
I'm just curious.
When this game came out, it had very negative reviews. I pla...
The game was a fucking disaster at launch because of the lack of features we are familiar with and the technical issues.
stiff pollen
Yeah I guess it is a hero shooter 
radiant prism
By that logic so is every other game in the franchise though
arctic grove
Well hero shooter by definition is one with unique characters, operators, etc, typically with unique abilities
spiral folio
Id be like 5x happier if i could still pick specialist independent of class
Oh no 3rd support is angel
radiant prism
Well hero shooter by definition is one with unique characters, operators, etc, t...
Like four unique classes, with unique gadgets exclusive to their classes?
spiral folio
Hes the ammo guy that can also adk for even more ammo
arctic grove
Like four unique classes, with unique gadgets exclusive to their classes?
I see your point but by gadgets I’ll reference games like Black Ops 4, Overwatch or Apex Legends
spiral folio
A 5th specifically sniper class would be good. Like one thst [does exactly what i want]
Since the recon people suck
radiant prism
I see your point but by gadgets I’ll reference games like Black Ops 4, Overwatch...
The difference in gameplay from specialist to specialist in our current state is minimal, apart from a few minor differences. I see your point with BO3/4, but those specialist abilities are FAR more impactful and differentiating than specialist gadgets here in 2042.
spiral folio
Like seriously
"Hack things thst are close to you"
"Wallhax girl"
And drone toy guy
None of these are snipers
arctic grove
Oh yeah, they most likely are more impactful, I figured you meant when compared to the older games classes
radiant prism
The difference specialist to specialist in 2042 is effectively the same as swapping gadgets in a previous title
Plus a minor perk that may have a very slight difference in gameplay
stiff pollen
Wait until season 4
verbal adder
angel ass
radiant prism
he did it again
stiff pollen
When the last recon just gets a RCXD
spiral folio
Is barrier-guy engineer then? I know lis is
kindred flint
Angel with his unique gadget and running medic box
Angel when you're fighting inside and can't call in the supply crate 
radiant prism
“Oops! I Did It Again” by Constantin Anghel is my favorite song
spiral folio
Only reason i know Lis is cause it reminds me of "Lisbeth" from the hit classic animated fairy tale "the magic heart"
robust vapor
Angel when you're fighting inside and can't call in the supply crate <:NotLikeTh...
yes
solid imp
Have we always been able to look around the entire inside of the Hind/Condor during initial deploy?
spiral folio
I know the names i use
arctic grove
Yeah that sounds like it makes sense, although I still think the class system and specialists themselves are different since the specialists have their own abilities that are unique to them themselves (although they all do work for their specialist classes role), engineer for example is unique in the way it’s given a collection of different gadgets unique to the entire class, there aren’t a few different types with their own abilities and an additional ‘normal’ gadget
spiral folio
But like support nah
next onyx
No Kaos.
arctic grove
Damn man I don’t even notice how long these get
spiral folio
Or most engineers
next onyx
And I'm not sure how to feel when I have a Mackay staring into my damn soul.
spiral folio
And the recon guys suck
solid imp
lol
next onyx
Like dude I get it. You had your coffee. But quit staring at my ass.
fringe spire
With the new class systems, will all specialists still be able to reanimate teammates ? With the medic specialists just doing it quicker
next onyx
Yeah.
Squad revives are limited to squad members no matter the clss.
Medic will just do things quicker.
solid imp
And then you'll have this staring at you
next onyx
And to everyone.
Cunt just run the lumberjack outfit with that hair and you've got a full blown redneck.
Get some kind of shotgun.,
Like I dunno.
fringe spire
I wonder if we're ever going to get something like a mortar
next onyx
An 880???
fringe spire
as a gadget or maybe deployable
kindred flint
wow look at that mod privilege getting around the word censor
arctic grove
If they add a mortar I just suggest it be like the bf4 one
next onyx
@wise zodiac I need a serious question. Out of all the weapons in 2042. What would a redneck use. Something that's traditional or makes sense.
Bmac you can say it.
You should be able to say it.
solid imp
"should"
kindred flint
You mean I can say cunt?
wise zodiac
<@600733381981896704> I need a serious question. Out of all the weapons in 2042....
Wait, when did I become the resident redneck expert?
arctic grove
I don’t really care about BF1s mortar showing you your enemy which can double as an effective scouting thing but yk, I’ve read dissent to the bf1 mortars
next onyx
Just don't over do it.
solid imp
I mean.. we can probably be a bit judicious there yea?
kindred flint
this is great power I shouldn't abuse
low cypress
Bmac has the power now
next onyx
Wait, when did I become the resident redneck expert?
I was thinking since you live in Texas you've seen your fair share.
arctic grove
<@600733381981896704> I need a serious question. Out of all the weapons in 2042....
Either a crossbow or a revolver
next onyx
<:leo:760110335687524423> <:leo:760110335687524423>
OH YEAH your m240 is in the game now.
wise zodiac
Revolvers aren't practical in every situation.
next onyx
Does it have to be American or Russian made.
low cypress
American
next onyx
Because the m44 andd the mp412 are both sides of the same coin.
sharp marten
M240 GO BRRRRRRR
next onyx
Either a crossbow or a revolver
SEE that makes sense to a degree.
I just think hey what kind of traditional rifle would one use.
fringe spire
I mean.. we can probably be a bit judicious there yea?
is your profile picture a reference to Pathfinder but in BF colors ?
next onyx
If not an AR 15, Maybe an m416 since it's of the same platform but that's the national service rifle in Germany.
spiral folio
The mp420 is such a light round but it fires so slow... and its the only gun that malfunctions
It be jammin
wise zodiac
How are we defining redneck? Like, putting some pipe together and making a pipe gun?
spiral folio
It be jammin
arctic grove
I was thinking the MCS with that one bundle skin, the slightly more cowboy esque theme
next onyx
Uhhhhhh.
wise zodiac
Or just a farmer?
next onyx
That's a good question.
solid imp
is your profile picture a reference to Pathfinder but in BF colors ?
heh no just a reference to ptfo #direct-communication message
next onyx
A gun enthusiast.
arctic grove
farmer? remington.
redneck redneck? probably the magnum gol.
And definitely the dm7 which iirc is a ddm4v7
spiral folio
Self made guns next patch?
wise zodiac
So a gun enthusiast is different than a redneck.
arctic grove
We will have the rust guns soon
lone void
Kar98 for AOW when
wise zodiac
A "traditional" redneck, usually means they hunt/fish.
arctic grove
"why is lis shooting donkey Kong barrels of oil out of her gun"
homemade gun patchm
next onyx
xP
spiral folio
There's people that hog hunt from choppers
wise zodiac
So an R700 (or a basic hunting rifle) is like the most common one.
arctic grove
A "traditional" redneck, usually means they hunt/fish.
so definitely the ghostmaker then
spiral folio
Cause feral hogs are ruining stuff
next onyx
Beeeeeeeeeee
spiral folio
Ive heard the BAR is good for feral hogs
lone void
There's people that hog hunt from choppers
Farcry 5 be like
arctic grove
Cause feral hogs are ruining stuff
have you seen that Joe rogan podcast episode when they talk about it? crazy.
like they're environmental disasters
next onyx
Anything that fires 30 ought 6 it's good for hunting haha.
spiral folio
They breed so fast you just have to take em all out
next onyx
So they're like rabbits.
arctic grove
infinite bacon generator glitch (unpatched) (2022)
wise zodiac
Now, I'm a country boy living in the city; so my "redneck" weapons are for sure my Remington 870 tactical and my AR15.
next onyx
AH.
So pretty much what I had guessed.
An 880 and or an m416.
For 2042.
Cause the m416 is of the same platform the AR15 runs off.
next onyx
And the 880 well... That doesn't need to be explained any further.
wise zodiac
Either an AR or an AK, for the rifle system.
spiral folio
Kinda
The problem is like domestic pigs are fertile all the time
Wild pigs have a "breeding season"
But then domestic pigs eacaped
Now you have wild feral hogs thst multiply like mad
fringe spire
If not an AR 15, Maybe an m416 since it's of the same platform but that's the na...
also service rifle for France now
next onyx
Would the side arm be of an m1911??
wise zodiac
1911s are too expensive
next onyx
THE ONE THING THE FRENCH DO RIGHT.
fringe spire
they're replacing their FAMAS, what a shame
wise zodiac
You gotta go cheap.
next onyx
I heard that only Americans can buy m1911's.
tacit sphinx
dm7 probably makes more sense as a civilian ar15 than the m416 does
spiral folio
1911s are single stack mags too
Low capacity and jam a lot
wise zodiac
Ideally you're looking at a Taurus, Ruger, even a glock.
arctic grove
THE ONE THING THE FRENCH DO RIGHT.
You’re gonna summon the crab men
next onyx
You’re gonna summon the crab men
They can't get me.
kindred flint
Single stack mag in the year 2042
fringe spire
yeah don't compliment the french on the internet that's illegal
wise zodiac
I've got a Taurus G3C, gun was around $300, for a very nice 9mm sub compact.
fringe spire
(im french)
next onyx
Ohhh.
spiral folio
9mms are generally reliable because the ammo is literally like 130 years old
next onyx
I know some really nice french people.
arctic grove
(im french)
I'm sorry for your loss.
next onyx
My friend is theorising a cheap 9mm pistol.
kindred flint
I second that motion
next onyx
Like a last ditch weapon, Very crude.
fringe spire
I'm sorry for your loss.
eh I'm kinda happy with it actually
next onyx
The French aren't that bad!
fringe spire
I love cheese and bread I couldn't be as happy as I am in France other than maybe places like spain germany italy
arctic grove
never encountered another welsh person on discord
next onyx
Oh yeah I meant to ask. @tacit sphinx does input feel better for you now? One of the stealth changes was that apparently input is better on old gen.
Cheese....
mm.
wise zodiac
My friend is theorising a cheap 9mm pistol.
But to answer your questions, a shotgun, midrange carbine (AK/AR), a hunting rifle, and a handgun. A revolver or a cheap 9mm pistol.
solid imp
cheese always
spiral folio
Like a last ditch weapon, Very crude.
Derringers arent new tech
next onyx
But to answer your questions, a shotgun, midrange carbine (AK/AR), a hunting rif...
FAIR.
spiral folio
Hell you can get a derringer in like .357
fringe spire
I'm kinda happy our government is considering upsizing our armament industry in reaction to the conflict in Ukraine, it's cool
next onyx
Ok I know what to do now.
tacit sphinx
idk ive never really had any particular issues that i could distinguish from my controllers just being old
arctic grove
I'm kinda happy our government is considering upsizing our armament industry in ...
I’m glad Europe in general is doing that
next onyx
Your controller is so fucked you can't even tell the difference lol.
Kinda find that funny.
spiral folio
If i could pick one thing to add to the game though
Ukraines 14.5mm "alligator" sniper rifle
arctic grove
NATO European armies never had to bolster as many personnel since big brother always had their back
spiral folio
They're like 7ft long
arctic grove
Well actually I’d argue pretty much everyone else in NATO besides the US didn’t have to do so
spiral folio
Maybe the 1shot Trex
next onyx
Oh there's this weird obscure revolver that fires one of the most powerful rounds in the world.
It's a something -oia round.
wise zodiac
FAIR.
I got my AR-15 for $600 and put another $600 worth of furniture on it, my shotgun is about $250, my handgun was $300, AND you can probably get a very cheap hunting rifle.
next onyx
I want to do some hunting.
spiral folio
Think jts kike .52casull
spiral folio
454 casull is huge
grave vigil
yo the m4 doesn't feel too bad
next onyx
I got my AR-15 for $600 and put another $600 worth of furniture on it, my shotgu...
My dad back then had a really nice Ruger semi auto rifle but after a horrible event he had to get rid of it.
spiral folio
Twice as long as .45acp 1911 ammo
grave vigil
just shit that they didn't add option for a bigger mag
spiral folio
Yea like as big as a lever rifle round
arctic grove
are the AM40 and the new fortnite gun "Twin Mag SMG" the same gun 🤔 they look very similar
spiral folio
I lost all mine in lakes of course
shell ermine
Well actually I’d argue pretty much everyone else in NATO besides the US didn’t ...
Their battle plans were/are literally "hold on for a day or two until daddy America can mobilize"
Only the UK and France have significant forces but they were built around being expeditionary and not defensive
spiral folio
I just target shoot so just 22s and 9s mostly (and a 5.7)
next onyx
Only the UK and France have significant forces but they were built around being ...
So theoretically if I were to invade France they won't be prepared.
spiral folio
The 57 is my favorite
arctic grove
So theoretically if I were to invade France they won't be prepared.
Wanna go together?
spiral folio
It'd be fun to have a 5.7 derringer
wise zodiac
This is my conceal carry
next onyx
Kinda looks like a p226 but shorter.
wise zodiac
Kinda looks like a p226 but shorter.
It's not a SIG, it's a Taurus. That little gun is half the cost of SIGs 9mm compact, and it's less snappy.
next onyx
Oh I know it's Taurus.
arctic grove
SHORT? lemme pull out my ak-
next onyx
But its design.
wise zodiac
Yeah it's similar.
fringe spire
I still have hope one military in the world will adopt a GOOD bullpup as a service rifle
ambidextrous, good trigger
wise zodiac
There is. The IDF uses the Tavor.
fringe spire
aug aint ambidextrous
next onyx
Don't care. AUG is cool.
sharp marten
Aug>
fringe spire
yeah the aug is rad
next onyx
I got to see one up close during ANZAC day.
fringe spire
is the tavor ambidextrous ?
next onyx
It looks so comfortable.
fringe spire
the polish adopted a new rifle and its upper was designed to be swappable between bullpup and regular lowers but they ditched the bullpup option
fringe spire
hows the trigger on it ?
spiral folio
You can swap the ruger pc carbines handle to either side with just a screw
wise zodiac
hows the trigger on it ?
I've never fired one.
inner roost
Does anyone here know how to turn up Lis' TV Missile sensitivity?
arctic grove
Ultra high DPI :D
fringe spire
outside of "weird" because the shooter needs to adjust to a different layout, the only "real" criticism of bullpups I've seen were 1- shitty (stock) triggers and 2- lack of ambidextrous ejection
next onyx
Vehicle sensitivity.
low timber
I keep getting
Matchmaking Failed
next onyx
And DPI.
inner roost
Vehicle sensitivity.
I tried vehicle sensitivity didn't change a thing, I'm playing on console for now until they fix the cpu usage issues
fringe spire
Vehicle sensitivity.
the turn rate is still limited though right
next onyx
Yeah.
wise zodiac
I have fired these though:
M4 (single/burst), AK47 (full auto), M249, M240, M2 (at sustained, rapid, cyclic), Mk19, AT4s, and different handguns/shotguns.
next onyx
I fired an M16a1 at vietnam!
inner roost
I actually don't know how fast you're supposed to be able to aim it, maybe it's slow by design? Idk I haven't played much of Lis
wise zodiac
The plastic M16?
fringe spire
I actually don't know how fast you're supposed to be able to aim it, maybe it's ...
the turn rate is limited by design
spiral folio
Well even with a full MG, you dont really wanna go more than like 10 rounds
fringe spire
otherwise you could pull off some crazy turns with it
next onyx
No a genuine m16.
wise zodiac
The first variant of the M16 was plastic. Lol
chilly jacinth
crank your dpi on pc for better Lis rocket turning
inner roost
the turn rate is limited by design
Ah, makes sense thanks
spiral folio
The way we did it in basic was the
DS would say "WHEN YOU FIRE. SAY "DIE M F DIE" AND STOP"
spiral folio
Which is roughly 10 rounds
inner roost
crank your dpi on pc for better Lis rocket turning
Im not playing the game on PC rn so I can't lol, stuck with gamepad
next onyx
That is a nightmare.
chilly jacinth
well you're screwed then
next onyx
What is your CPU?
inner roost
More or less, but I'm getting used to it
wise zodiac
The way we did it in basic was the
DS would say "WHEN YOU FIRE. SAY "DIE M F D...
Yep, that's how we did the LMGs!
chilly jacinth
but its not a good solution
inner roost
It helped, I just did some controller tuning and it fixed it a bit
wise zodiac
I just know that the gun go shooty.
The first gen M16 was horrible to troops in Vietnam. It kept jamming.
next onyx
The conditions were horrible for it.
wise zodiac
Like baaad.
robust vapor
M16A1?
next onyx
Soldiers would pick up AK47's and be the victim of friendly fire.
robust vapor
💀
wise zodiac
They swapped out components, and it was hella better.
next onyx
They developed the XM117 which would of been better suited for the environment.
wise zodiac
Yeah, the AK sounds waaay different.
wise zodiac
THAT'S A MACHINE GUN.
When you have to go cyclic with an M240, you know shit just got real
next onyx
Rev there's a bug with the m240 in 2042.
It has assault rifle ADS movement speed.
So if you play as Mackay you can literally zoom with a 200 belt MG.
It weirds me out that MG's run 5.56 now.
spiral folio
Maybe not after the class nerf
wise zodiac
next onyx
It's a gun value.
spiral folio
Well they didnt restrict it is all
next onyx
Bang bang bang.
low timber
That moment when matchmaking breaks after a round or matchmake you cancelled and you have to restart the game to fix it
wise zodiac
I miss this big girl.
Hated humping it, but when shit went down, sending 400+ rounds of 7.62 in a hurry was always nice.
arctic grove
I miss this big girl.
Hated humping it, but when shit went down, sending 400+ r...
irl or in game O_O
wise zodiac
Real life.
spiral folio
Irl guns have mass
arctic grove
O_O
next onyx
did you ever fire it from the hip?
arctic grove
wdym shit went down O_O
next onyx
He was in the army.
spiral folio
Yea those are fairly expensive on the civilian market
wise zodiac
did you ever fire it from the hip?
240, no.
249, yes. On the move, running through some shit, straight hip fired.
arctic grove
holy
next onyx
Despite its weight.
Was the 249 well.
Controllable?
Did you feel confident in controlling it?
Actually doesn't matter with hipfire but.
wise zodiac
Yeah, I was a SAW gunner for a time
I went from hip fire to shoulder fired
It's easier to control at the hip, you don't have to worry about it coming off the shoulder
spiral folio
My army experience was less exciting
wise zodiac
I was 11B, so I mean 🤣🤣
next onyx
11B?
spiral folio
Just a mechanic in a bsb so broke/jacked up they were undeployable
wise zodiac
Its an MOS code, for the Infantry.
wise zodiac
Just a mechanic in a bsb so broke/jacked up they were undeployable
Yikes
wise zodiac
We get fun toys sometimes too. I ended my career in a Bradley crew =[
spiral folio
Like nondeployed they were hit up for the real dumb ones like "hey we're cleaning trash from this area"
wise zodiac
At least you weren't tasked with mopping the motor pool in the rain.
spiral folio
But its the price if you like range day
wise zodiac
The one toy I never got to fire was a 203/320.
Fucking super mad. Lol
I still want my mortars, @next onyx.
I'm glad they added the 240.
wise zodiac
Mechanics don't need to shoot. Lol
spiral folio
Like i got in
We got put in this "GRF thing and they were like "hey wanna shoot?" I was tired from other stuff so i said no
It wasn't required so beeh
fringe spire
I'm trying to understand recoil values from sym.gg, for example the m5a3 : 0.35° up, 0° left, 0.1° right
Does this mean the game will pick one of these 3 directions at random and move my aim with the corresponding angle ?
wise zodiac
Never volunteer for shit. 🤣🤣
spiral folio
And then like the next 2 range days we got i had like a broken foot or some other thing
wise zodiac
I'm trying to understand recoil values from sym.gg, for example the m5a3 : 0.35°...
It means that your weapon will automatically recoil up and to the right every shot
So you'll want to adjust down and left when you shoot to compensate
wise zodiac
And then like the next 2 range days we got i had like a broken foot or some othe...
Big rip
fringe spire
wait so recoil is a pattern, I thought it was random
see I need a firing range to test this out
arctic grove
I have never fired a gun other than a Air Gun 🗿
willow sky
So how much does the arcom and champion muzzle brake reduce and increase?
arctic grove
air guns still weird asf though 🗿
spiral folio
If you could perfectly hold a gun on target theres some rng to the spread
But recoil sends your aimer up and right a little
So accuracy is spread + recoil
fringe spire
well the recoil is still somewhat random because horizontal kick is determined by picking a random number between the left and right recoil values
but I see what you mean
wise zodiac
wait so recoil is a pattern, I thought it was random
Recoil is always a pattern. I don't like the whole random shit, personally.
But with the information that you've provided, every shot raises your uncontrolled aim up .35° and .1° right.
fringe spire
in CS if you have no spread recoil patterns are 100% consistent and reliable
spiral folio
Yea its a random spread within the aim bloom area
fringe spire
As with all Battlefield games since Battlefield 1, vertical recoil is a fixed (non-randomized) value. While vertical recoil can accelerate, the increases and decreases are at discrete, known intervals. Horizontal recoil works as it always had in previous games, consisting of a number line (e.g. -0.3 to 0.3), where a randomly generated value is produced, with a uniform distribution.
from sym.gg
spiral folio
Like 90% of your shots will be within the center 50% of the aim circle
But some shots will go nuts
next onyx
Have you ever used an IAR, Rev?
ripe hedge
wait so recoil is a pattern, I thought it was random
NEVERMIND The other guy said it correctly
wise zodiac
> As with all Battlefield games since Battlefield 1, vertical recoil is a fixed ...
Yep, which means that the recoil will always send your aim vertically less than half a degree each shot, and then right at a tenth of a degree each shot.
next onyx
So recoil is random but it's not random. The pattern is there but the general behaviour never deviates?
spiral folio
World of tanks uses a gaussian distribution for rng within the aim circle
sharp marten
@ripe hedge you play the new Elden ring dlc 
wise zodiac
I'm trying to understand recoil values from sym.gg, for example the m5a3 : 0.35°...
Yet, the way this reads, shows a 0° movement to the left. @ripe hedge
kindred flint
Bruh that old wot aiming circle was rage inducing
ripe hedge
<@196835865513820162> you play the new Elden ring dlc <:PeepoJedi:59578689691608...
Not yet
spiral folio
Bruh that old wot aiming circle was rage inducing <:NotLikeThis:5624405304708956...
In that 90% of your shots go in the middle 50% of the aimer. Some aimers were huge
kindred flint
daily asking Alex why a tiny bit of pointy metal 1 shots at 100m 
wise zodiac
I hated WoTs aiming circle. Lmao
spiral folio
I got 100% ko'd from a random shot by a kv2 i couldn't even see 2 days ago. I almost threw my whole house
wise zodiac
_daily asking Alex why a tiny bit of pointy metal 1 shots at 100m_ <:WoahTea:562...
Round velocity.
next onyx
A pencil can kill you.
kindred flint
Before they changed it to shoot more center mass rounds would often hit the slivers of your reticle not on a tank
wise zodiac
When a tiny piece of lead is flung at 3750 feet per second, I'd hope to God it'll one shot something. Lmao
next onyx
Do you reckon I can shove sharpened pencils into a railgun and kill people with it.
ripe hedge
_daily asking Alex why a tiny bit of pointy metal 1 shots at 100m_ <:WoahTea:562...
humans are surprisingly mushy
next onyx
Or will is disintegrate.
kindred flint
When a tiny piece of lead is flung at 3750 feet per second, I'd hope to God it'l...
The throwing knife... don't make me hurt you
wise zodiac
Do you reckon I can shove sharpened pencils into a railgun and kill people with ...
The rail gun would probably disintegrate the pencil because of the amount of kinetic energy
next onyx
And that isn't what he works on.
kindred flint
I've only been joking about it for a week now
next onyx
Yeah I'm aware at the higher speeds things will disintegrate.
fringe spire
it depends how you accelerate the pencil
wise zodiac
That, or it would turn the lead into a tungsten rod. 🤣🤣
fringe spire
the real thing is how do you accelerate a pencil with a railgun
is graphite magnetic ?
kindred flint
Last night I had a teammate asking why he got 1 shot from a knife at 68m 
next onyx
You put a bit of metal at the end and launch it.
spiral folio
Yea i assume the railgun projectile is basically a tungsten needle
kindred flint
thats because it's a bullshit weapon my dude
wise zodiac
Ever been stabbed by a knife?
ashen stream
so we all need atleast room temp of 23C in able to have 65+temp when playing BF2042?
wise zodiac
Shit hurts. Lmao
fringe spire
You put a bit of metal at the end and launch it.
yeah need a magnetic projectile to propel it forward
ashen stream
no AC = 80degrees burning soon to explode CPU
kindred flint
I'm not a redneck sorry 
arctic grove
Yea i assume the railgun projectile is basically a tungsten needle
I doubt that, but we can't know for sure
next onyx
My cpu runs at 80c and it's running fine.
ripe hedge
Ever been stabbed by a knife?
U never expect it to hurt that much lmao
iron socket
G57 buffed? Lame, cope for the bad players with no skill. Please buff the M44, all pistol kills should be done by M44 only.
M44 headshots are creamy 😋🤤
wise zodiac
U never expect it to hurt that much lmao
NEVER! It's ridiculous!
ripe hedge
yeah need a magnetic projectile to propel it forward
or a magnetic casing, sabot style
ashen stream
My cpu runs at 80c and it's running fine.
try that for more than 5hrs everyday for 3weeks
spiral folio
Fallouts gauss gun ammo is called like "2mm electromagnetic"
kindred flint
Ever been stabbed by a knife?
Also clearly you can put more force into a stab than a throw 
next onyx
I got stabbed by a knife in a dream but I'm not sure if that counts.
fringe spire
this makes me think
arctic grove
I got stabbed by a knife in a dream but I'm not sure if that counts.
🤝 us
spiral folio
Yea railguns dont need a electromagnetic projectile
fringe spire
it's totally possible to make a railgun with a captive "carrying" magnetic piece that propels a projectile forward, instead of the projectile itself being magnetic
next onyx
try that for more than 5hrs everyday for 3weeks
I've been at it for 6 months.
spiral folio
Just a sabot that is conductive
kindred flint
The point is, look at the bfv knife, and stop pretending the 2042 one is fine.
fringe spire
so you could have ammo which is just a bunch of projectiles with no gunpowder at all
ashen stream
they will add CLAN or GUILD?