battlefield-2042

[knotty charm]

@hexed garnet what Card u runnin?

[hexed garnet]

RX 5700

Full specs are Ryzen 5 3600X, 32 gb of ram and an RX 5700

both running on stock speed, no overclock

[knotty charm]

Try uninstalling the drivers there and reiinstall

[arctic grove]

Makes me wonder when dice will add 128BT since we can make 128 Rush in Portal

[fiery solar]

Calmest rush game

[hexed garnet]

i don't think that's the solution, it's EAC refusing to launch the game because apparently it can't recognize the process

tried repairing EAC too, nothing

still waiting for the shitty EA launcher to finish repairing

[spiral folio]

If the game repair doesnt work that is

[hexed garnet]

update on that, it has decided that it needs to redownload 30 gb of files

[fiery solar]

Avancys with the 0 recoil

[hexed garnet]

i literally just installed the game today, how does it have 30 gb of corrupt files right after installing?

[tough sonnet]

Can I get some opinions on my milsim style server? I decided to keep the player and vehicle health to their regular percentage but as a drawback, neither can automatically regenerate by themselves without a medkit or repair tool.

[hexed garnet]

i can't believe that Star Citizen is literally more stable than this game. If i get it working i hope the gameplay makes up for it, because i'm not buying it if it's gonna be just nonstop issues XD

literally only interested in 2042 because of portal mode but i wanna give the main game a chance after a year of updates, see if it got any better

[spiral folio]

When is star citizens relase date

[fiery solar]

2042

[spiral folio]

Ahaa.. see what he did

[hexed garnet]

Soon TM

[fiery solar]

Gta 6 will have 3 expansions before star citizens makes it to release

Or does it actually have a release date

[hexed garnet]

nah it doesn't

[spiral folio]

Has starcitizen beaten duke nukem in delays

[hexed garnet]

it's still fun af despite being an alpha, after a year playing it, it was worth the $45 for a game package

[wintry parrot]

Man, the K30 is fun

Too bad it starts out with the shittiest setup imaginable

[fiery solar]

Haven’t used it since launch. Too much recoil for my controller

[eager spire]

which is interesting since controller literally has less recoil than KBM

[spiral folio]

I think its also funny how a lot of games like elite dangerous and SC sure have cockpits similar to samus in prime3

[fiery solar]

I only experience horrible recoil with the k30

[hexed garnet]

i haven't seen a cockpit in any of them that looks remotely close

i used to play E:D a lot, quitted after the fiasco that the Oddisey expansion was (broken promises everywhere, underwhelming content)

[spiral folio]

I only downloaded it free and played a bit

[hexed garnet]

tried SC during a free trial event, instantly fell in love with the level of detail and interactivity, how immersive it is, got a game package, been playing for a year already

[spiral folio]

ED is pretty but like i was just shooting rocks and delivering pizza basically

Runescape by any other visual

[hexed garnet]

E:D has a massive galaxy but it's shallow in content, it becomes boring very fast. One thing we say in the SC community, ED is a mile wide but an inch deep, and SC is an inch wide but a mile deep

and we're getting the second playable star system "Soon TM"

Q1 2023

i'll stop the off-topic in here

guess i'll try luck with 2042 tomorrow, this is taking forever to repair

thank fuck BF4 is still active

Bf4 my beloved

[alpine vector]

Is there any easier way to get multi kills for this weeks challlenge?

Any tips?

[spiral folio]

So it's star citizen because there's only one star

[devout flare]

Abysmal range, goes thru ammo way too fast.... it's ok tho.
Pbx def better as far as smgs.. then the pp29, then I'd throw mp9 and k30 in
After that ak74u and p90

[robust vapor]

HE grenade launcher

[arctic grove]

Sundance scatter grenade and blowing up MAVs/Condors

[hexed garnet]

if you wanna talk more about this let's go to general

[robust vapor]

Grenade launcher works best in stranded

Those side ship flanks

[alpine vector]

@robust vapor are you talking about multi kills?

@arctic grove thx

[lament plank]

Jesus Christ finally adding below radar for AA. Finally a way to counter pesky jets in my transports.

[remote kiln]

it isn't back yet

probably with 3.2

[turbid vine]

hello there..is servers down?

[lament plank]

Well yes I know not YET but I mean still that is a drastic improvement to implement

[errant jetty]

is it worth reinstalling?

[chilly jacinth]

servers are up

[lament plank]

However it’d be nice if they stated that the APS will Auto Unlock on the tanks etc. Like if the requirement is 500 kills/assists to get it, but say I already have that many, do I need to do that many again???

So if a Dev wants to chime in that’d be nice

[remote kiln]

doubt it, probably just the same as the unlock tree for the railgun

[grave prism]

how the fk you zoom minimap

[lament plank]

The rail gun is an entirely new weapon why would have a new tree unlocked? Same with TOR you still have to unlock everything. But if I already have my tank maxed out and I’m at (for example) T1 in a tank which I’m sure many are, do we need to get that X amount of kills to unlock APS

I know one of the vehicle dev pops in from time to time

[thorny orchid]

anybody try the m4 yet?

is it any good?

[remote kiln]

railgun = tor

[lament plank]

Oh lol I mean to me TOR is TOR and rail gun is the rosch or whatever

🤔

[wintry parrot]

Its good for CQC

But like, why tf would you default the gun to a high power mag

[pale mango]

k30 is just outclassed in everything except where you’re breathing on the enemies neck

[ripe hedge]

Why not?

[pine roost]

if you reinstall the game do all of your settings remain as they are?

[pale mango]

did for me

[lament plank]

Ah damn a dev comes but they are a weapon dev not a vehicle one to answer my question lol

[wintry parrot]

I mean, its 21 rounds, thats about good for one kill solely with the K30 before you need to reload or finish them off with a sidearm

[pale mango]

vector should be fast anyway tbh

high power defeats the whole purpose of it imo

[wintry parrot]

I like the firerate, but levelling it to where I had mags that were actually sustainable in a gunfight was a chore

[frail sparrow]

this skin is pretty lit

[lament plank]

i know youre mostly weapons, but do you know anything about the unlock plan for APS on tanks that was announced today

[ripe hedge]

Yes, its pretty cool huh?

[lament plank]

yes, but! im curious how the unlock will work for it

[ripe hedge]

me too 🙂

[lament plank]

for example if i have both tanks T1d. do i need to go get 300+ more kills? which is close to what the last unlock is? or will it just be granted based on being T1

etc

but i know youre weapons not vehicles

[arctic grove]

I may not have been active in this server but 2022 is ending so I’m just saying I love being in here

[hallow sierra]

close to one year playing this game

[quiet shell]

Plz alex at least give us 2042 attachments for the m416 the HK416 is still expected to remain in service for another 30 years! That's well past 2042's timeline!

[royal trail]

something could change at anytime tho and we might all have exosceletons and ais implanted into our heads

never know

[topaz field]

I do hope in season 4, the vault weapons get a overhaul cuz man the recoil pattern on console is not fun at all. Need an upgrade similar to the BSv-M... I wonder if alex would see this... @ripe hedge

[pine roost]

i've not a touched a single vault weapon so far actually

[ripe hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[royal trail]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/01/elon-musks-neuralink-makes-big-claims-but-experts-are-skeptical-.html

[silk surge]

Hoooooooly

We're getting the AI skins

[topaz field]

wowwwwwwwwwwwwww

those are sickkkkkkkk

[quiet shell]

I'm taking that as a yes and if we don't see those attachments before support ends I'm blaming you >:D

[quiet shell]

That's a bit of an emphasis on NVG's. Are we getting night maps?

[topaz field]

i cant wait to see sundance black storm costmetic please be goood

[eager spire]

or possibly just NVGs cool

[silk surge]

@ripe hedge Hey Alex! I know that this is not your field of expertise, but given that you work at DICE, you might know more about this than we do... What constitutes 'below radar'? Will it be 30 meters above surface, or can it be any surface like rooftops etc?

[ripe hedge]

Oh no

[ripe hedge]

Context?

[quiet shell]

Also how dare they call Falck's skin Pestilence and not give her a plague mask

[shell ermine]

Does Irish's trophy system still stop C5 or was it across the board removed?

[eager spire]

I'm guessing that Alex has no input on what's said on the BF Bulletin twitter, but considering he was quoted, I would like to ask, what possible justification could there be for thinking about buffing the G57 again, after it already got a buff in the shape of the headshot multiplier increase, making it able to oneburst in CQB?

[silk surge]

You guys recently proposed a few changes for vehicle gameplay, and one of those was adding a 'below radar' system for helis in which helis can't be targeted by lock-ons if they fly <30 meters above surface.

[royal trail]

maybe in the future we can have more info on our screens as if we truly had a chip in our heads and were connected to databases around us

[mental delta]

@ripe hedge Thanks for the M416, I have been asking for it for 3 months

[hallow sierra]

i want the mtar

[silk surge]

Pretty sure the PORTAL weapons are made by a different studio, Alex handles the main AOW weapons.

[mental delta]

I mean I wanted it as a vault weapon and he always answered me as he was the one handling it lol

[silk surge]

Ah

[tacit sphinx]

from what i can tell there’s a defined ground level which is separate to the highest surface, so it’ll use that

[royal trail]

with m416 i feel like i played with pp pre-nerf. really good

[silk surge]

Yeah that makes sense.

I'm just hoping that helis wont be able to chill near a mountain surface and be immune to lock ons.

[grizzled blaze]

lmao these patch notes

extra lubrication on the crane rails

"we have yet to invent adamantium as part of your arsenal loadout"

wonder how these animations look

[arctic grove]

ILL TAKE UR ENTIRE STOCK

WE GOT BOOTLEG SHADOW COMPANY SKINS BBY

[dapper river]

no, they won't, it's because dice is laz-- i mean, it's because they want to keep the "nostalgic feel" of those weapons

[grizzled blaze]

music isnt in every vehicle yet

crying still

[arctic grove]

Rip

[tacit sphinx]

the UAV-1’s laser guided missile seems to use the same ground level to determine where the projectile goes, if you use it at a somewhat shallow angle on a building it tends to overshoot (diagram hopefully demonstrates this a bit)

[arctic grove]

Anyone know when those skins launch?

[ancient peak]

Nah bootleg shadow company is MW2 2022 multiplayer skin

[dapper river]

this is simply an engine quirk, as the guided system is using the terrain behind the building, rather than the building itself, for targetting.

and it sucks

[eager spire]

Some time between the end of December and the end of January. Assuming they come out at all, just because they're datamined doesn't mean they're coming out, afterall.

[ripe hedge]

U have no idea how hard it was to shut up 😅

[tacit sphinx]

they’ve talked about the themed event and used the same skins in that teaser

[arctic grove]

I hope that black storm set is gonna have multiple versions for different environments(prob not)

[grizzled blaze]

alex my oomfie where are the radios....

[tacit sphinx]

but yeah it’ll probably end of this month/early next month

[topaz field]

alex is hilarious lmfao

[ripe hedge]

It's my team the one moving them to AOW 🙂

[silk surge]

Ah, then I'd like to thank you as well.

[topaz field]

any chance of them getting a overhaul similar to the bsv-m in the future?

[tacit sphinx]

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.

[dapper river]

2042 gunsights on applicable vault weapons soon, pls?

[ripe hedge]

What radios?

[grizzled blaze]

i like how the russian announcer lady is nice compared to the american announcer guy whose a dick

[grizzled blaze]

music radios on all vehicles

[tacit sphinx]

the bsv wasn’t a vault weapon deal it just happens to be based on the AS Val/VSS platform that was also in the game as a portal gun

[ripe hedge]

What type of overhaul would you want?

[ripe hedge]

Oh, dunno

[spiral folio]

Add metal bullets for the ntw

[tacit sphinx]

personally for most just sticking the 2042 attachments and base skins on them would be good

[spiral folio]

Instead of the styrofoam ones it uses now

[stray surge]

The rail gun tank is really good for taking out the annoying air vehicles especially the stealth helicopter.

[placid echo]

Playing jazz music on a tank for emotional support

[ripe hedge]

U mean the 20mm?

[spiral folio]

Yea 20mm styrofoam

The weakest 20mm in the history of mankind

[topaz field]

you know just give them a more modern variant so lets say overhaul with 2042 attachments example the m416 would be the m416A. I dunno anything about game dev and im sure this would take time and had to be reviewed with the team etc

[kindred flint]

Just rail gun bro

[stray surge]

@ripe hedge

Mtar-21 when?

[ripe hedge]

In my tanks only sounds the Opening of Chainsaw Man in a permanent loop

[tacit sphinx]

i think there’s a couple that you could do interesting things in the same vein as the bsv, such as having a g3a3 as whatever that one swedish modernised version is, but i think just attachments + skins would make them feel a ton better

[spiral folio]

I could pack a fist full of dirt into a blunderbus and do nore

[placid echo]

Rail gun on a jet when?

[inner roost]

Alex, have you thought of bringing over the Spas 12 or any other shotguns to AOW? More shotgun variety would be nice

[topaz field]

The portal guns recoil pattern isnt the same as 2042 weapons kind of drive me crazy at times

[kindred flint]

any word on the throwing knife to be balanced to match the bfv version?

[spiral folio]

Nah the next vehicle to get railgund will be the transports because they're not 100% broken yet

[royal trail]

i remember some heatvision or infrared on some police helicopter here supposedly having the reasources too see what people were doing inside their apartments like years ago. could that be added into the game before end of the line?

[placid echo]

[Posts another clip]

[sharp marten]

[spiral folio]

They'll also get the active protection like tanks with point defense lasers

[kindred flint]

Og transports with the 50mm were that level of broken

[spiral folio]

50mms added also to the side minigun pods

[shell ermine]

Mag size options and 2042 optics.

[spiral folio]

So 3x 50mm guns

[kindred flint]

Actually...will recons be the only ones to get access to the knives?

[ripe hedge]

Soon(TM)

[hallow sierra]

im surprised they still nerfing the 50mm

[inner roost]

MTAR for AOW 🙏

[spiral folio]

Its 50mm diameter but theyre replacing the rounds with bismuth

[topaz field]

mtar + claymore nightmareeeeee

[ripe hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[placid echo]

Alex, you're turning into Tom Holland

[royal trail]

lol

[kindred flint]

Shotguns getting 2 at a time shell loading when?

[sharp marten]

Thermals when

[ripe hedge]

how so?

[spiral folio]

What benefit would there be in adding more nearly identical 12ga shotguns

[kindred flint]

More worse options than the 12m?

[royal trail]

i want metro bf3 style in portal if possible

[inner roost]

They can behave differently, spas 12 has different pump speed than MCS

[placid echo]

Talking about stuff that could happen lol

[sharp marten]

I’m ngl the M240 B is chefs kiss

[ancient peak]

Based

[royal trail]

tom holland always spoiled stuff he wasnt allowed to. i dont think alex does that

[spiral folio]

Well yea another big cal LMG is different than
"Yet another 12ga launcher with a slightly different grip"

[inner roost]

We already have so many ARs, and SMGs, shotguns are lacking in variety

[sharp marten]

Alex is funny gun man

[arctic grove]

Listen tbh angel is kinda cheeks but i love him

[placid echo]

I didn't say he was fully Tom

[inner roost]

Just because they're all 12 gauge doesn't mean they're going to be carbon copies of each other either

[pale mango]

we need less shotguns

[ancient peak]

As my buddy put it: He’s the only normal looking one

[placid echo]

Angel makes special ammo types worth while like Flechette Shells that only get like 16 shots

[royal trail]

i just started playing Angel and his im here to help really sounds genuine

[tacit sphinx]

i just want the 2042 attachments i feel like they could be done fairly easily in most cases by just like reusing the modifier on values from a similar gun on the ones that actually change stats

[arctic grove]

Am i the only one who misses when he used to give armor aswell as ammo

[pale mango]

extended mag m416 would make it genuinely good

[placid echo]

I liked it on my side but armor being prevalent on the enemy team was... eh

[ripe hedge]

Everything COULD happen 😏

[arctic grove]

I still average like 28 revives a game so im chilling

[sharp marten]

Ay man all characters could get new skins with event it’s gonna be like 3 weeks long

[lilac dust]

https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1600589480846573568/photo/1

[sharp marten]

Maybe hopefully

Those skins are so good tho 🥹

[lilac dust]

Looking pretty fly

[pale mango]

that falck skin

[placid echo]

Personally, I think Angel's ammo gadget should maybe replenish faster

[pale mango]

i love it

[arctic grove]

But its sad that battlefield 2042 flopped so hard

[spiral folio]

If its the same barrel length that pretty much defines everything

[royal trail]

personally i think the medpen shouldnt be disrupted by absolutely everything happening around you

[arctic grove]

Also does anyone still play battlefield v

[placid echo]

Kinda sad the new shotgun doesn't really get many muzzle options

[sharp marten]

It’s coming back

[arctic grove]

Im dreaming along with you man

[tacit sphinx]

yeah i think removing armour from angel was generally a good thing but also it never really got any upside to it so it’s a slightly underwhelming effect of “oh uh you just get ammo pouches from previous games but also they don’t fly to teammates like they used to”

[unkempt socket]

Is there patch notes for this 5GB update?

[inner roost]

Unfortunately lacking in that department, but the NVK does slap

[placid echo]

Indeed

[spiral folio]

Well this is the 2042 room

[inner roost]

Whoever made that shotgun great job, it's fucking awesome

[sharp marten]

No like it’s literally coming back

[spiral folio]

So people are gonna talk about 2042

[arctic grove]

Elaborate

[tacit sphinx]

especially as the promo/cover art has it with a big suppressor that afaik isn’t available on it lol

[placid echo]

It was Nordvik

[spiral folio]

If you really dont like bf2042..
Theres always this
🚪

[still vault]

#direct-communication message

[inner roost]

All I ask is for us to get reload cancelling in between loading shells for shotguns, is this possible for you guys to add? @ripe hedge

[unkempt socket]

Not like BF4 did though, unfortunately I don’t think it’ll ever be on that level, but i still fun game to hop onto

[unkempt socket]

Thanks

[placid echo]

I think the plus menu does that

[sharp marten]

Player spike has risen a significant amount people are see how nice and fixed it is and with classes returning it will raise a lot more

[spiral folio]

[Stophavingfunbf2042.jpg]

[inner roost]

Yeah it does but I would like the actual fire button to instantly cancel the reload

Like in older BFs

[unkempt socket]

Putting specialists into classes just isn’t the same as the original classes, but at least they’re trying. I hope it comes back, but I feel like most BF fans are just past it at this point

[low timber]

And even in the current discord server banner the shotgun has some kind of a muzzle, a suppressor perhaps?

[mental delta]

"To shut up", what do you mean lol ?

[wet socket]

game is in slow motion on conquest 128 players only

but its fine on other modes

[inner roost]

That bug is back? Lol

Such a wild one

[wet socket]

well since i bought it anyway

[eager spire]

128 player moment

[sharp marten]

I mean it kinda is the same yes

[wet socket]

got some gud fps now and enjoying but i cant play conquest

[inner roost]

Strange bug man, I don't experience that myself

[wet socket]

it is

[unkempt socket]

It just isn’t. Feels weird just running around the map seeing the same person you’re saying the same lines. Just doesn’t hit the same. But again, at least they’re trying, I’ll give them that

[wet socket]

conquest is completely unplayable

[inner roost]

Have other people experienced this issue?

[still vault]

People don't actually want the original classes. Ie. 1942. After that the "original classes" changed for each and every game.

[unkempt socket]

The model of them stayed the same though, just classes, no specialists

[sharp marten]

It’s really not that different in past bf’s characters were wearing the same thing as well

[inner roost]

People want BF4 style classes no?

Assault Support Recon Engineer

[unkempt socket]

Tell that to the 90% of the fan base who hate the specialists 😅

[spiral folio]

Clases would be half as bad if you could pick any specialist

But like class locked specialists is way worse

[unkempt socket]

I agree

[unkempt socket]

Perfect

[inner roost]

Definitely going to see those return in next BF, I can't imagine specialists ever returning to BF

[spiral folio]

There's some specialists that are obviously intended for some uses ie shield guy wont make a good sniper. But like Mackay made a good sniper

[inner roost]

Even cod got rid of them after BO4

[spiral folio]

Better idea is "make your own gd build and if you're not smart enough, heres 4 templstes"

[sharp marten]

Do you have the actual statistics where it shows 90% of the player base hates the specialists

[unkempt socket]

Yh the only reason they did it was cuz of the success of cod, but BF and cod are vastly different and it should never have been implemented in the first place

[still vault]

Pretty much only the personalities and stories left to remove. Classes are pretty much just locked pools of gear that synergize with each other which the new system will have.

[spiral folio]

Yay less freedom more rules!

[unkempt socket]

The fact that 90% of the fan base left the game after 2 weeks of launch? 💀

[spiral folio]

[Howlibertydies.gif]

[ebon pilot]

That happens to almost every game

[unkempt socket]

We just want BF4 classes🥲

[eager spire]

running out of ammo is a nerf to snipers

[inner roost]

Rules are important in BF, things locked to classes creates balance and readability in gameplay

[spiral folio]

I want 0 classes

[inner roost]

You're in the minority there for sure

[hidden epoch]

do you need higher settings to see blod splatter on walls or are they just gone?

[still vault]

Plenty want BF1 or BFV, know many that want BF3, hell even BFBC2 classes.

[spiral folio]

Cause theyre not gonna buff ammo capacity

[unkempt socket]

BF1 didn’t have that, neither did 3

[sharp marten]

💀 most of the player base left because the game was practically unfinished and now it’s better I think you’re just making up numbers now champion

[unkempt socket]

Any of those over 2042😅

[spiral folio]

If im gonna spend all battle asking for ammo. Itll be while holding a tankgewehr

[ebon pilot]

how do you know the player count of those games they weren't on steam

[pastel loom]

bf1/v are older setting games
it doesn't fit i think

[unkempt socket]

Those are also contributing factors to the games failure. But to sit there and act like people don’t like the specialists is pure delusion

[spiral folio]

Bf1 gave snipers like.. 30 rounds i think but the maps were 300% smaller

[sharp marten]

Yes but you said that 90% of the player base left because there’s specialist which isn’t even remotely true

[inner roost]

No one likes them, remember launch with the cringe ass voice lines and angel does it again

[unkempt socket]

Because I remember playing them, and I could find a match 24/7, even now you can find matches, (easier on bf1), took me 10 mins 3 weeks after launch to find a match in 2042

[spiral folio]

I dont even care about the specialists i dont want them OR classes

[royal swan]

With all the garbage the helis deal with in battlefield 2042 it's fair to have them have a below radar function.

[unkempt socket]

Ok. Nevertheless, still a massive contributing factor

[royal swan]

Also glad to see helis get a lower sky hight

[spiral folio]

Character appearance should be entirely cosmetic and then pick what crap you want. Here's your slots of types of stuff you can fill

[inner roost]

BFV system was perfect

[ebon pilot]

As long as we're doing personal anecdotes I've always been able to find a match 24/7 and I've been playing since launch

[inner roost]

Best customization options

[sharp marten]

No it’s not lmao

[spiral folio]

Bf5 solved the ammo issue with ammo depots

[unkempt socket]

You’re either really lucky or lying then, cuz the player count went lower than Bf4 and 3 and a certain point

[spiral folio]

2042 has no ammo depots

[still vault]

Never had issues finding 128 conquest

[unkempt socket]

How out of touch of reality are you?

[spiral folio]

You have to rely on "some asshole" to give you ammo

[inner roost]

I find constant games for 128

Never had an issue

[eager spire]

i feel like you should just be able to grab ammo off of support players

[sharp marten]

Not at all how much in denial are you?

[eager spire]

like, just run up to 'em and press E or whatever

[royal swan]

That asshole is trying their best, you just need to be patient

[unkempt socket]

You can now, since the updates, but not long after launch was rough

[spiral folio]

Lolllno

[inner roost]

I've been plauing since launch, never one issue finding a game

[unkempt socket]

Ah yes, I’m in denial because I say most fans don’t like specialists. Pull your head out of your bum mate

[spiral folio]

Like no depot in a contested sector but have an ammo depot at a captured sector

And uncap

[pastel loom]

it made the 1st gadget slot only have ammo
and no longer possible to equip two different gadgets that aren't an ammo

[royal swan]

Who is this goofy guy on about

[unkempt socket]

Interested considering the player count went below BF4 and 3 at some point

[inner roost]

Below BF4? While considering crossplay? Nah man

[spiral folio]

Wh

[inner roost]

Steam charts isn't the full picture

[royal swan]

Doesn't bf4 have 1,000 players on steam

[unkempt socket]

You can literally search it, facts over feelings my friend

[sharp marten]

Yes thank you for admitting you’re in denial case closed

[ebon pilot]

I mean, I like specialists and such, but those voice lines just sucked. Doesn't matter how they're implemented with or without specialists.

[royal swan]

Last I checked it was really low

[inner roost]

Feelings? What do you mean you do not have the PS5 and XSX player numbers do you?

[unkempt socket]

If you google delusional, your name pops up

[spiral folio]

If you hate bf2042 why are you here besides causing trouble

[still vault]

There's some value in players being able to read what kind of threat each soldier is on the Battlefield. For example: The old school Battlefield you could always spot an engineer which made it possible for vehicle driver to focus them and thus counterplay the counterplay.

[royal swan]

Don't think it does

[unkempt socket]

I’m on Xbox, and it took me longer after launch to find a 2042 match than bf4

[spiral folio]

Make loadouts show visually

[royal swan]

It will give a definition

[unkempt socket]

Who are you?

[inner roost]

Never happend to me, playing since launch

[royal swan]

Observer

See my name

[sharp marten]

Just googled it and my name didn’t pop up are you illiterate?

[unkempt socket]

That’s a good one 😅

[still vault]

Lets stop with the personal insults!

[spiral folio]

Like if somebody has an ammo thing, give em a backpack

[unkempt socket]

Didn’t ask

[unkempt socket]

I agree

[sharp marten]

Yes carb

[royal swan]

I do like the function that you can collect ammo off of people with ammo boxes or bags

[ripe hedge]

that i knew it was coming but couldnt say

[spiral folio]

There's a solution

[unkempt socket]

I said good things about it at the start, until I got insulted because I stated facts over feelings, but go off

[inner roost]

We only have the steam charts player numbers so there's no way of knowing 100% for sure

[dark mural]

Up

Players are up

[inner roost]

They definitely are up

[dark mural]

Which is good, so embrace it, stop bitching

[spiral folio]

It also doesnt actually matter. If all you wanna do is make fun of the game the servers dedicated to

[unkempt socket]

It’s common sense to know that the numbers fell off after launch though. Now it’s doing decent, and I’m glad, even I’m playing it more

[spiral folio]

Here it is

[inner roost]

Oh I agree they fell off, we just do not know by exactly how much, luckily recovered now

[solar tinsel]

Oh snap, these vehicle changes in that blog post seem pretty cool . I wonder if the turret speed increase also diminish the bit of "overshoot" the turrets experience too.

Are these turret adjustments present in 3.1?

[still vault]

There is crossplay so the player pool consists of:

• Steam
• EA app
• Epic
• Playstation
• Xbox
  So there is plenty of people to play with so how about we all chillax 🙂

[sharp marten]

💀 damn

[ebon pilot]

It's weird how people stopped playing because specialists and now are playing again even though literally nothing has changed about specialists

[unkempt socket]

Yh, I’m glad it is recovering, cuz then I can enjoy playing and make use of my money 😅

[eager spire]

well it's not like everyone stopped playing exclusively due to specialists.

[solar tinsel]

I've been saying it since day 1. Specialists would not be the make or break reason of 2042.

[dark mural]

One of my 2042 TikTok post actually got attention for the first time in months. Pretty neat I'd say. Positive perceptions are always welcoming.

[ebon pilot]

i know that's the joke

[eager spire]

👍

[unkempt socket]

Reworked maps and new content sort of outshines it. They have said they’re moving them into classes so that’s probably also made people happy

[spiral folio]

I like specialist gadgets
But I'd rather the character be optional and the gadget be independent of the characters appearance. But most gadgets are hard modeled in

[solar tinsel]

It is nice to see the game state constantly improve - and I confess, I thought this game would be dropped the moment S4 came out. Kind of nice to know 2042 is getting continued support, at least to hold us over until the next entry

[ember nimbus]

The weapon proficiency system is a cool idea

[unkempt socket]

Yh

[thick tusk]

So what is the actual affect of Rao hacking vehicles and players? Do the vehicles just lose ability to shoot?

[inner roost]

I hope we get Seasons 6, 7 and 8

[arctic grove]

Too bad most fans gave up on this game

[eager spire]

I will say, if I ever feel like making a quote list of the weird takes i've seen, "Running out of ammo is a nerf to snipers" would be one of them

[solar tinsel]

Shoot and use countermeasures @thick tusk

[unkempt socket]

It’s nice to see they haven’t gave up on it like they did with Star Wars battlefront 2

[inner roost]

They also cannot flare or use counter measures, very strong if you synchronize with squad

[spiral folio]

Because having no ammo makes people do EVEN MORE DAMAGE

[solar tinsel]

Perhaps, although from what I understand its building a modest playerbase again at least

[spiral folio]

Wait

[ember nimbus]

Still being able to use what we want but being given incentive to use a particular weapon type in a particular class

[inner roost]

Poor Dennis, left DICE after battlefront 3 pitch was denied

[spiral folio]

It usually halts damage entirely

[arctic grove]

Tru

[solar tinsel]

at least enough for populated regions to keep playing full matches - which is all I care about. I don't care if BF is #1 FPS in the world, never has been ha

[royal swan]

Huh?

[spiral folio]

"How did this happen drill sgt"

[thick tusk]

Ok what does it do when you hack non vehicle players?

[solar tinsel]

as long as we can keep playing and enjoying the game, Im down

[arctic grove]

Could’ve gotten bane damnit

[inner roost]

Spots them and everyone surrounding them

[royal trail]

angel is the most sincere character in bf2042, u can hear his voice crack a little in insecurity sometimes as he speaks and his im here to help sounds really genuine

[solar tinsel]

I'm not sure if it does that anymore, does it? Wasn't that the old Rao passive?

[unkempt socket]

It’s crazy how it was denied. Battlefront 2 had the highest player count it ever had when they decided to ditch it. If they learned from their mistakes of BF2 to make BF3, it could’ve been incredible

[solar tinsel]

Hacking a player definitely disrupts a player's UI, and I believe disables any gadget-based gear that uses elctronics

[inner roost]

Ahsoka, Mace windu, cal kestis, qui gon jinn, so many missed opportunities

[arctic grove]

Fr

[inner roost]

I play Rao a Lot, it still spots people

[thick tusk]

Awesome thank you! Very helpful

[spiral folio]

Snipers have the lowest ammo capacity because "muh balans"
And its usually some pittance like 30 whole rounds in bf1

The onky relief in bf2042 would be 3 ammo types. But because clown world. You cant pick 3 of the same ammo to maximize consistency or capacity

[unkempt socket]

Apparently they were working on ahsoka and ventress when support got cut

[spiral folio]

Like 3x slots of extended mags for max ammo

[inner roost]

Yep, voice lines for Ahsoka are in game too, BF2 died for 2042

[unkempt socket]

🥲

[arctic grove]

I mostly play lis

[solar tinsel]

thats good to know! I T1'ed Rao forever ago so I havent used him as much since admittely. Underrated specialist!

[spiral folio]

Ahsoka?

[arctic grove]

U don’t watch clone wars

[ember nimbus]

I think Sundance is still too giddy

[inner roost]

Yep, great when people cluster up on breakthrough he's actually underrated for flanking

[spiral folio]

Just leftovers from battlefront?

[unkempt socket]

🐐 show

[inner roost]

Yeah battlefront got it's content cancelled because of battlefield 2042

[spiral folio]

I say add ahsoka to bf2042 then

[inner roost]

And then battlefront 3 got denied

[unkempt socket]

I’d play it 24/7 if they did 😅

[spiral folio]

Give her some weird plasma sword thing as a special item

Like the kind with the frame around the blade

Or a heat blade

[inner roost]

Imagining any type of melee weapon in this game is a headache, melee combat sucks so much

[spiral folio]

Her passive is to see where guns are aimed

So you can dodge shots easier

[solar tinsel]

I actually like the idea of having an active skill or gadget that, if you hit an enemy with it, it totally screws up their accuracy, like BF2 (Battlefield 2) levels of spread or something. For a bit

Kind of like a "debuff" class

[grizzled blaze]

interesting i got put in a breakthru server that was literally all bots

[solar tinsel]

in all fairness, thats what concussion grenades should also do now (even lower the accuracy more) to make them less worthless

[grizzled blaze]

42 mins

[solar tinsel]

That's where the AI revolution starts

[inner roost]

Concussions kinda suck rn imo, duration is super short

[solar tinsel]

agreed

Even if the flash effect isn't any longer, I think the accuracy reduction should be bigger, linger more, and slowly return back to normal

this way it forces the opponent to be a bit less aggressive

but they can still move and reposition

[inner roost]

Yeah they're kind of a useless throwable atm, why not just take frags or spot grenade

[wary oak]

Or throwing knives XD

[solar tinsel]

but.... hey Below Radar is coming back so whatever 😂

[inner roost]

Thank god they fixed heli height limit

No more camping stealth helis 5000 feet in the air

[wary oak]

Wait there bringing back the "Below Radar" ability?

[solar tinsel]

"Jet planes are not included in this tweak, and currently do not have a limit"

not sure what they mean by this haha. Does that mean the ceiling has been? Removed?

[solar tinsel]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/dev-notes-vehicles-in-season-3

yup! (tweaked a bit from previous games)

although It's a fair balance IMO

[spiral folio]

"Classes will make teamwork happen" XD

[solar tinsel]

also APS coming to M1A5 and T28

[ebon pilot]

battlefield moment

[spiral folio]

-sitting on a support waiting for him to need ammo-

[ebon pilot]

same

then he wrote in chat he was high as fuck

[inner roost]

I feel like you've had a very personal experience where you asked someone for ammo multiple times and they refused to give it to you

[hallow sierra]

teamwork in a fps game with a bunch a randoms

[small crescent]

A couple times I revived people as Non-medics. What mechanic makes that possible? I thought only medics revived.

[inner roost]

Squad revive is what that mechanic is called

[ember nimbus]

Lmao

[inner roost]

You can revive people in your squad but not others, only medics can do that

[small crescent]

Oh FML my teammate was so pissed at me 😂

[inner roost]

Also medics have an incredibly quick revive in comparison to the other specialists

[hallow sierra]

it happens

[spiral folio]

If there's no medics now its gonna be less post class nerf

[inner roost]

Not necessarily, angel mains and falck mains will still play those characters after class update

[wary oak]

Only question i have is when the class system comes out will they make the Ammo/Medic crates have quicker cooldowns (including Angels Loadout crate)?

[inner roost]

I definitely will continue playing angel

[spiral folio]

Doubt

[ember nimbus]

Is Crawford a "medic" too? For the two people who play Crawfish?

[spiral folio]

Its not benefits added, its just rules restricting things being added

[inner roost]

No idea about that, do you find the current cooldown too slow?

[fiery shoal]

im likely leaving falck JUST for spawn beacon

[spiral folio]

Support get the option of the shock pads

[still vault]

shocking

[spiral folio]

Medics get the magic stimpack

[inner roost]

Isn't support = medic

Assault gets the med pen

[fiery shoal]

maybe if all the maps are smaller i wont need spawn beacon but ill find out

[spiral folio]

Wasnt when i saw the last thing

Maybe i read it wrong

[inner roost]

Irish Angel and Falck are getting the shock pads

[mental delta]

Ha yes should have been difficult since I was asking for it everytime you were coming on the server

[wary oak]

Not at the moment but after they add the class system they might need to re-adjust the cooldowns of the Ammo/Medic boxes

[inner roost]

Mackay Sundance Zain and Dozer get med pen

[plain needle]

Jesus does nobody know what a defibrillator is

[fiery shoal]

Class Equipment (Always available)

Assault: Med Pen
Engineer: Repair Tool
Support: Defibrillator
Recon: Insertion Beacon

[spiral folio]

Shockpad is easier to write tha dselfobwlator

[inner roost]

AED is what I usually would say but idk if that term is universal

[fiery shoal]

its like spelling congradulashioons

[plain needle]

Crawfish is going to engineer and Irish is becoming medic

[sharp marten]

I got a pretty good giggle out of that

[plain needle]

It is, you’re fine

[rocky kraken]

why

[wary oak]

Or Defib

[spiral folio]

Spelling like how Lis talks

[fiery shoal]

why not

[small crescent]

Confirmed?

[inner roost]

Confirmed yeah

[plain needle]

Yea look up the latest battlefield development update on yt

[small crescent]

Bet

[sharp marten]

Honestly Irish is a good pick for support

[drowsy shuttle]

not medic, its support

[plain needle]

Same shit

[inner roost]

Same thing really, defib gadget

[plain needle]

Aye, support these nuts tho

[ember nimbus]

Based on his weapon preferences in BF4 it makes sense

[spiral folio]

What is he like 80 by 2042

[solar tinsel]

100% will be great to see Irish in that slot. And I think Crawford is a better Engineer fit too

[inner roost]

no lol, BF4 was only in 2020

[spiral folio]

Recurring characters.. blurg

[solar tinsel]

did they yet reveal what Crawford's new passive will be?

[solar obsidian]

[plain needle]

#Y’all the new manifest rework is out?

[drowsy shuttle]

no really... cause falck as medic can heal herself or others with the syringe... angel, as supporter can also revive as fast, but can't heal others (unless carry the medic crate) also.. angel and irish will only revive half of the health... falck as a medic can revive with full health... so its not exactly the same, medic or support

[solar tinsel]

yup, in 3.1 out now

[inner roost]

Michael K Williams is the Goat, I'm glad we got him in 2042

[plain needle]

LETS GOOOOO

[ember nimbus]

Sucks he passed away though, RIP

[spiral folio]

All i want is my own stupid supply of ammo not a bus pass to go find somebody who both has it and will give it out

[solar tinsel]

He understood the assignment better than anyone. Potentially everyone else got poor voice direction, but MKW understood

[spiral folio]

Seems like there should just be an option for it

[inner roost]

Yeah absolutely a tragedy, very happy that he's immortalized in 2042

[spiral folio]

Even like a backpack for an extended supply or something if not an ammo supply box

[ember nimbus]

1000% agreed

[fiery shoal]

kill people and pick up their ammo

[solar tinsel]

I can't hate on the other VA's if they were given bad direction. I wonder if they just said "do your thing" MKW - and they got the best results from him no doubt

[spiral folio]

Ok but the people i lilled are 600m away on a rooftop

Any worse ideas?

[inner roost]

He has the best lines, great dialogue all around

[ember nimbus]

He made every role his own

And those aren't my words

[solar tinsel]

you kind of already do with having multiple ammo types

[fiery shoal]

youre only killing people 600m on rooftops? how does that work out?

[inner roost]

Even at launch when the game was filled with cringe, Irish's dialogues were always good

[solar tinsel]

although, that only applies to non-vault weapons

[spiral folio]

But i cant carry 3x slots of extended mags

Cause logic need not apply

[wary oak]

I don't know if they will be able to do any new voice lines for him now when they bring back the end of round lines

[solar tinsel]

well I mean yeah that's fair ha. But you could carry a few extended and a few normal as backup in the interim

[plain needle]

THEY ADDED THE 240 LETS FUCKING GO

[fiery shoal]

if youre sniping you should pick ammo crate

[ember nimbus]

He's easily the most responsible specialist in the roster, so he has to be

[plain needle]

ngl I’m pretty happy

[drowsy shuttle]

did they broke anything relevant with the update, or things are good?

[spiral folio]

You cant in the new class nerf

Thats the point

[ember nimbus]

Can't you use any weapon with any class

[fiery shoal]

am i missing something or are you?

[topaz field]

who irish?

[solar tinsel]

I haven't played the update yet, but so far from the notes it seems like a good update. 3 vault weapons is nice

[solar tinsel]

you can

[spiral folio]

But you still have to pick class specific specialists

[fiery shoal]

theres no weapon restrictions, you can pick any class/specialist and then pick any weapon

[spiral folio]

Nope

[ember nimbus]

...So you can run ammo with a Sniper rifle

[inner roost]

Specialist in the game and character in BF4, played by the late Michael K Williams, a great actor

[fiery shoal]

so if you are struggling with ammo as a sniper.. just pick someone who picks ammo

[solar tinsel]

Yeah the goal of the 3.2 class update is to try to relegate it so each solider can't be a "one size fits all" character

[spiral folio]

You have to pick a class-specific specialist

[fiery shoal]

yes.. that doesnt mean weapons though

so you can run sniper with ammo...

[solar tinsel]

you can, for sure!

[ember nimbus]

Gadgets are class-specific, weapons aren't
Weapon proficiencies though are class-specific

[solar tinsel]

or well, more precisely

Run a Support with a sniper rifle

would be the better way to phrase it

[spiral folio]

It means you miss out on much more ideal specialists than a giant minigun, a medgun Or whats the 3rd... is ti "barrier guy"

[fiery shoal]

doesnt mean you cant run sniper with ammo like you were suggesting

[spiral folio]

It means you get ass for special perks

[fiery shoal]

yes its "not ideal" but if you are struggling with ammo.. pick the person who gives you ammo..

[spiral folio]

So its a nerf

[solar tinsel]

Technically yes, but by design

[fiery shoal]

100% having ammo is more important than special perks...

[solar tinsel]

It's meant to focus roles

[ember nimbus]

It's a suggestion

[solar tinsel]

To fall more in-line closer to traditional Battlefield classes

[spiral folio]

Literally my whole point

Clases are a nerf

[fiery shoal]

"All i want is my own stupid supply of ammo not a bus pass to go find somebody who both has it and will give it out"

this was your point which is false...

[solar tinsel]

More of a specialty focus than a nerf - but even if you call it a nerf - I believe it is a welcome one by most

[fiery shoal]

you can 100% have your own ammo and snipe..

[spiral folio]

Restricted freedom of choice for no reason causing extra difficulty thst isnt necessary

Not without penalty

[fiery shoal]

literally more freedom than any other BF title before it...

[solar tinsel]

There very much is a reason

[spiral folio]

And thaaat is a nerrf

[drowsy shuttle]

i am the opinion that they should've restricted weapons to classes, just like bf v for example. but they were too afraid to do it. shame

[spiral folio]

There is no good reason

[fiery shoal]

goal post change

[solar tinsel]

According to you, but there's a reason why they are doing it. Is because literally more players felt this way

[spiral folio]

No that's not a change its literally what ive been saying the whole time

[fiery shoal]

for good reason.. having class restrictions has been a staple for bf games for decades now...

[solar tinsel]

The good news about the class update is while soldiers can be less jack of all trades, they also have more options within their focus. Now that everyone is getting an EXTRA gadget

[wary oak]

The reason for that was because no one was running medic because assault had the best weapons in the game

[inner roost]

As far as dice is considered feedback wanted classes back so we're getting them back whether y'all like it or not lol

[fiery shoal]

this whole time you were saying you cant run ammo while sniping...

[spiral folio]

Theres several nerfs you encounter if you want to use a support to snipe both the scope steady time and the specialist gadget are included in this

[inner roost]

Play cod for complete freedom honestly, BF revolves around these restrictions

[spiral folio]

It is precisely a nerf

[solar tinsel]

Or you know, have a teammate that supplies you with ammo - if you want to be a recon with a sniper.

[fiery shoal]

i dont think you know what a nerf is...

[solar tinsel]

Right, it's definitely not a nerf

[fiery shoal]

pros and cons are not "nerfs"

[spiral folio]

If things are made worse to force you to change, that is a nerf exactly by definition

[solar tinsel]

I mean call it whatver I suppose

[inner roost]

I was agreeing with you

[spiral folio]

Whats the pro to classes for a sniper

[solar tinsel]

but that's like saying adding a laser sight to increase your accuracy nerfs your stealth ability.

[drowsy shuttle]

i don't agree... and i might be mistaken cause i don't remember exactly, but medics had a OP smg i think..?

[fiery shoal]

znath just outright talking nonsense and changing goals/topics left and right to ignore that

[spiral folio]

Not being buffed but everything else is, is literally a defacto nerf

[inner roost]

Just fkn play recon and snipe bro ez shit

[wintry parrot]

does anyone know if theres any way to accurately measure playercounts on xbox/playstation?

[shell ermine]

How do you use the emp on Casper's drone now?

[ember nimbus]

It's a bit of a let-down for certain weapons that are more reliant on ammo crates then others

[fiery shoal]

literally not what nerf means.. you dont say Y weapon is better than X weapons so X weapons is nerfed...

[solar tinsel]

Aim, lock on, and then fire

[drowsy shuttle]

right mouse button

[solar tinsel]

you need to be pretty close though

[inner roost]

No there isn't on PlayStation atleast, Xbox you can check the most played list and see where games rank

[spiral folio]

If you pick a recon character to avoid the nerfs youll have to commute to get ammo continually

[inner roost]

Good, makes support useful

[ember nimbus]

Oh god, the humanity

[spiral folio]

And what if you can't find one

[inner roost]

Infinite ammo for sitting on ur ass sniping in the back?

[fiery shoal]

pick support yourself...

[solar tinsel]

Or perhaps in the inverse, a sniper with a good support buddy on resupply will result in a stronger squad cohesion

[fiery shoal]

tf why is this a hard concept

[solar tinsel]

OR you can go support yourself

you pick

[granite island]

I hope we get a new mode where all maps are at night

[spiral folio]

So then you get nerfed by losing the gadget you wanted and the sniper perks of the recon

[fiery shoal]

not a nerf

[granite island]

Instead of day

[solar tinsel]

That's not typically how nerf is used my guy

[drowsy shuttle]

i doubt that will ever happen

[spiral folio]

Losing things is

[fiery shoal]

thats not what a nerf is

[solar tinsel]

That's not a nerf, that's a restriction

[granite island]

I just want 1 night map

[inner roost]

Not a nerf, it's a class restriction, just like supports can't run engineer gadgets, that ain't a nerf

[spiral folio]

Things going away or diminished

[shell ermine]

We got a camping sniper mad he can't infi-camp by using snipers with ammo boxes?

[ember nimbus]

Manifest

[spiral folio]

Its like the exact definition

[inner roost]

Your literal concern is ammo that's it lol

[granite island]

Manifest is technically not night

Well dark

[inner roost]

Just go find some ammo

[fiery shoal]

again, X weapons isnt NERFED because Y weapon is better...

literally no one says that

[spiral folio]

Theres other gadgets i like to use for sniper characters ie lis rockets or mackays grapple

Both arent recon

[lament plank]

i do really enjoy how they condense manifest, add more character to the map....but people still allow (on US side for the example) the russians to cap, E, C, D while half the team sits on A.....jesus christ....

[drowsy shuttle]

1 night map i believe... but a game mode to make all maps night, i doubt. but 1 night map yeah i believe that.... bf v had a night map...

[spiral folio]

The recon characters suck as it is

[inner roost]

Okay then use Mackay, and when you need ammo go get some

[solar tinsel]

I mean, pedantic definitions aside.... does it matter what it's called then? Ultimately you are going to need to abide by the restrictions, and perhaps rely on other teammates more which is the point

BUT - you now get AN EXTRA GADGET too

[lament plank]

like just because the map changed a little doesnt mean you let the enemy team cap all the points next to your uncap...

[solar tinsel]

(within your role)

[fiery shoal]

znath complaining about a system that is still more lenient than previous bf titles...

[ember nimbus]

I believe that class and squad-based play is battlefield's bread and butter

[granite island]

I really wanted kaleidoscope to have a night mode ngl

[solar tinsel]

its true

[granite island]

Or hourglass

[spiral folio]

There's no reason besides an arbitrary rule after this stupid classes thing that incant just carry an ammo box

[lament plank]

laughs in T1 all recon

[inner roost]

Look, even if you feel this way nothing is going to change, classes ARE coming back and Staying

[fiery shoal]

we used to have class and weapons locked

[solar tinsel]

Absolutely!!!

I think @fiery shoal said it, but this is still the least restrictive BF title class-wise, even after 3.2

[fiery shoal]

again... it was literally bf design for decades other than 2042...

[spiral folio]

Yes used to
Leave that antiquated system in the dark ages

[drowsy shuttle]

well, lets see what they broke (or didn't fix) this time. laters

[fiery shoal]

they arent antiquated systems, they are just systems

[inner roost]

Yes and lose more of the playerbase great idea

[spiral folio]

Weapon mods werent a thing before 2042 either

Should we get rid of weapons mods

[solar tinsel]

Dark ages dude everyone's been asking for it. Why do you think DICE is doing it? lol

[shell ermine]

I don't think the rework helped Manifest at all, it's still an awful map

[spiral folio]

Everyone is apparently wrong

[inner roost]

Apparently you're the only one who's right

[solar tinsel]

The reality is, more people feel differently than you do, and the game nor the world revolve around you.

[ember nimbus]

What?

[fiery shoal]

no.. its a matter of preference and expectations of the franchise...

[solar tinsel]

If you are unhappy with it to the point where you don't want to play. Don't!

[spiral folio]

They dont realize what theyre asking for.
More pointless rules

[fiery shoal]

you literally dont know what youre talking about

[flat tusk]

Anyone know why this new update is installing the full game… 72GB.

On new gen xbox if that helps

[spiral folio]

Extra restriction

[granite island]

Manifest was fine to me

[inner roost]

Head to cod man, complete freedom

[fiery shoal]

its not "extra".. its literally less than previous titles

[solar tinsel]

Or go voice to DICE and they'll probably ignore it because everyone else is saying otherwise

[ember nimbus]

The manifest rework is out?

[solar tinsel]

Yup, 3.1 is out

[granite island]

I will miss that one objective on the top right of the map tho

[ember nimbus]

When did it launch?

[inner roost]

One versus entire BF community, wonder who dice is going to listen to

[solar tinsel]

this morning

[ember nimbus]

Sick

[still vault]

It's a 20yo franchise and every game has changed something = the community will never agree

[fiery shoal]

especially when its a preference to which system you like, and one system has been synonymous with the franchise for decades...

[still vault]

it's like trying to get all Star Wars fans to agree to a single format for a movie that they would all like

[solar tinsel]

2042 has made more changes to the BF formula than others, so going back to this pretty essential system, while still KEEPING specialists, is a good compromise

I mean, it's happening whether you like it or not ha

[granite island]

I did like the freedom 2042 had tho

No restrictions

[flat tusk]

I guess its just nothing to worry about

[fiery shoal]

and i missed the locked system, its called preference

[solar tinsel]

I think when it comes to gadgets, the restrictions were necessary. As gadgets define class roles more than anything IMO

[spiral folio]

People had the total freedom to make any build and fill any role they wanted

"No dont let us do what we want"

[solar tinsel]

I appreciate the weapon freedom we'll continue to get

[fiery shoal]

neither are "wrong", but locked system is more in line with the BF franchise considering every other title had it

[inner roost]

Sorry I didn't see that, that is strange but as long as it isn't eating more of your storage it's fine

[solar tinsel]

People weren't saying that, they were saying "don't let any soldier do absolutely everything"

[spiral folio]

Yea how horrible

[inner roost]

Happens to me on some Xbox games too where it installs the entire game but doesn't take more space

[fiery shoal]

and taking away that freedom isnt wrong, antiquated, or abitrary... its just a design choice that you can either like or not

[solar tinsel]

I mean, it doesn't really fit Battlefield which is why people complained

[dawn bobcat]

Is this a legit server or like a fan server?

[spiral folio]

It is its totally outdated. You cant force a player to revive any more than you can make a horse drink

[fiery shoal]

no its not..

[inner roost]

Community ran server but lots of dice devs here

[solar tinsel]

I think EA/DICE separated officially, but this is as "legit" as it gets really

[fiery shoal]

spread based shooting mechanics are outdated, having locked classes vs open isnt outdated...

thats like saying hero shooters are outdated

[spiral folio]

Tellin ya they wont do it tol they can use it to climb the score board

[fiery shoal]

tf are you on now?

[solar tinsel]

I mean this conversation has gotten as watered down as it could now. At the end of the day @spiral folio you're now just arguing "me right, everyone else wrong"

Don't know what to tell you other than: the change is happening. So enjoy it while you can

[spiral folio]

Bf1 youd have people revive just to climb the scoreboard. 2042 changed the score system

[solar tinsel]

which I mean, you're allowed to have your opinion and all...

[spiral folio]

So people just don't

[fiery shoal]

ok and? whats so wrong about that

[inner roost]

You got a month or so of freedom left, I'd enjoy every last moment I can if I were you

[fiery shoal]

does it really matter where you place on a scoreboard on a casual sandbox shooter?

[spiral folio]

I'll give it a chance and then complain more

[spiral folio]

Its not how i personally operate. But the average space filler does

[solar tinsel]

I don't doubt it 😂

[fiery shoal]

how you personally operate means nothing though so idk the point in mentioning that

[spiral folio]

I'm not gonna lie or something

[abstract coyote]

What’s up with the servers rn

I can’t connect to them

[solar tinsel]

Not asking you to

[inner roost]

Did u download the update?

[abstract coyote]

Haven’t even got it

[granite island]

I can't find a match of breakthrough

[inner roost]

You can manually check for updates on xbox

[spiral folio]

Id say on average most people willing to use this server will "do the right thing" like the thing necessary to win even if it wont score well

[inner roost]

Or PlayStation

[granite island]

Also no escalation breakthrough playlist

[fiery shoal]

are you trying to say reviving teammates is the wrong way to win?

[inner roost]

Ah man spearhead breakthrough 24/7 is gone

[spiral folio]

But like theres a huge pile of people who wont pick smoke because you dont get points from it

[round garden]

imagen going from bf3 to bf2042 in the franchise game line up

[solar tinsel]

Maybe. However, if someone just wants to hang back and snipe, go for kills and play defense, or do whatever they want. That's their perrogtive. We don't need to be gatekeeping how people enjoy their spare time.

[spiral folio]

These are the people that if you wanna get em to do something you need to hang a donut in front of em

[solar tinsel]

Sure, it's annoying when people don't PTFO but what is your argument now even haha

[spiral folio]

Bf5 had ammo dumps

[solar tinsel]

"People can't play the game the way I like to play it?"

I'm so confused

[fiery shoal]

dude jumps topics and changes goals all the time.. annoying to keep up with now

[spiral folio]

My favorite "PTFOOOOOO" guy had 10 flag caps
We never advanced 1 sector

Sector had 2 flags

[sharp marten]

I’m pretty happy classes are coming back classes have been a thing since battlefield first dropped why change it in a major way

[inner roost]

Bruh such a point less convo just end it what's it going to do class change is happening

[solar tinsel]

Yeah ha Im about to dip myself. Good chats otherwise though

[granite island]

Playing the objective?

[solar tinsel]

Nice to see the BF2042 community improve overall now that the game is

[granite island]

How about I just sit in a jet for 20 mins

[fiery shoal]

me too, i wish locked weapons came as well but eh

[spiral folio]

So he just piled bodies on one flag til we got it. Then went toward the next shiny object

He can be a medic NOW

[inner roost]

How so too strong?

[sharp marten]

Naw I’ll have to disagree with you there weapons restrictions are ass tbh

[inner roost]

Because of shield and APS?

[sharp marten]

And I’m glad they’re not restricting them

[spiral folio]

I wish there was 1 weapon of each type with no mods

[solar tinsel]

The good news is, the biggest thing IMO you need to identify at range is if someone has a sniper, and as long as they have a 6x+ on it, you at least get that info regardless of what class

[granite island]

Throws heals while throwing anti grenade systems

[inner roost]

Oh yeah that'll be good

[spiral folio]

Mandatory 12x zoom scopes for all snipers with a lense glare brighter than the sun

[inner roost]

He can mass revive with smoke grenade too

[solar tinsel]

either way if someone is coming at me at short to mid. range with a SMG, LMG, AR, shotty, it's more or less than same - give or take.

[granite island]

Seems fair

[solar tinsel]

obviously, pros and cons - but they all are still a threat you gotta deal with

[inner roost]

Could always shoot him at the end of the day, it won't be anywhere near as bad as Angels armor

[ember nimbus]

Smoke grenades have won me multiple breakthrough matches

[fiery shoal]

i never cared about identifying enemies, i always focus on my strengths, i just like working within restrictions, its like solving an ever changing puzzle

[wary oak]

Angel doesn't get armour anymore

[sharp marten]

Smoke grenades are definitely a blessing and a curse but I like them over all

[solar tinsel]

For sure. I can appreciate that. Heck I limit myself to faction based weapons 😂

[inner roost]

Yeah that's what I mean, Irish even now that he's medic, will not be as broken as angel used to be

[solar tinsel]

Like if I'm RU I'm using either an AK-24, AM-40, or AC-42 for ARs

[fiery shoal]

i dont even know which weapons belong to which factions

[solar tinsel]

US: M5A3, SFAR, M16A3, etc.

[fiery shoal]

i just use what i feel like at the time

[solar tinsel]

It's not always clear, but you can typically deduce.

[granite island]

Make Sundance have a ability to change how many your grenade can split into

From 2

To 5

[solar tinsel]

some could be argued to be faction neutral too

[spiral folio]

Wait are they making faction specific weapons

[solar tinsel]

but some descriptions will say Russian-based weapon/optic, etc.

[solar tinsel]

They're not

It's just something I do specifically for fun

[spiral folio]

Ah k
-unties rope-

[granite island]

So let's see

It's the year 2042

[ember nimbus]

Given the state of the planet I'd say there really really isn't any "standard issue" equipment

At least for no-pats

[granite island]

And you're telling me

[solar tinsel]

True, but I also wonder if thats like how the countries supply the no-pats

[spiral folio]

I sometimes do faction specific on bf1 cause the weapons are ... stupidly numberous

[solar tinsel]

Like "hey go fight for us here's an AK-24 go win"

otherwise how are these no-pats getting every damn weapon ever? 😂

[granite island]

That they couldn't develop a mini drones that could kill

[ember nimbus]

Since no-pats are mostly an independent faction anyway, since that's kind of what their name means

[granite island]

But they could make a robo dog that shoots bullets

[ember nimbus]

Non-patriated

[spiral folio]

Nah they get no head pats

[topaz field]

Rao hack needs to last 1-2 seconds longer on heli's

[spiral folio]

Not til senpai notices them

[solar tinsel]

right, but they still get contracted by the countries right? isn't that how that works?

I admittedly dont know for sure ha

[granite island]

I swear

[solar tinsel]

I thought it was like soldiers for hire sort of thing

"Fiverr, but for Battlefield!"

[ember nimbus]

They are

[granite island]

Rao hack be lasting 0.50 seconds on the enemy

But when I get hit by rao hack

Last 3 seconds

[solar tinsel]

I guess you can argue it's a BYOG situation too though ha

[ember nimbus]

Except I believe the Exodus is canonically allied to Russia

[solar tinsel]

doesn't really matter, like I said I just do it for fun and thats how I engage with what little lore there is

I mean, the countries supply many vehicles for the most part

but I guess you can argue that "personal" vehicles and guns the No-Pats bring themselves

[ember nimbus]

Exodus has a few vehicles herself

[solar tinsel]

right, the personal ones right?

essentially, anything you can equip on both sides

[spiral folio]

Bf1 had pretty much an equivalent weapon for antly nation

[granite island]

Imagine a world where lis didn't exist

Where you don't have 4 missiles chasing you

[spiral folio]

Thiugh the m95 was the superior service rifle by far

[solar tinsel]

I'm sure you're technically correct, but I still do that faction split for some reason 😆

[spiral folio]

Imagine a world where you cant find an ammo guy so regenerating lis rockets are all you have

[ember nimbus]

I feel like the north American specialists probably have north American or NATO-issue weaponry

Of course the specialists on exodus come from all over the world

[spiral folio]

Average bf1 round there.

Welp... down to my last obrez round then its k bullets only

At least bf5 i could be like "anyone? Ammo? Ok im gonna... swim back to the ship i guess"

"Anyone want anything? Ration? Ok"

[ember nimbus]

Speaking of swimming I want carrier assault to come back

[granite island]

Bf5 medics only use medic to get kills

They're basically falck players

[spiral folio]

New map have an oiltanker rammed into a half sunken shanghai overgrown with plants and vines

[granite island]

Where did the oil tanker come from

[spiral folio]

Fire on one side jungle on the other

From the ocean

Doooiiii

Monkeys ate the crew

[topaz field]

i heard the new portal pistol slapss hardd

[spiral folio]

Monkeys with engineered illegal diseases

[granite island]

I don't monkeys eat humans

Actually they probably do

[ember nimbus]

It is pretty solid

[spiral folio]

These are nanobot infused crazy ones

[ember nimbus]

The shotgun is fun too

[spiral folio]

They eat people but theres a few in cold sleep on the evil cobra tanker

Both US and Roosan forces want these monko's

[solar obsidian]

i know this is not battlefield related, but the whole aim assist have been a hot topic in my shooters the past year cause of cross play

https://youtu.be/fDLwYFkNNKA

they adding aim assist to mouse and keyboard players on pc in halo

[pine roost]

bro what

no chance

that's actually hilarious

[solar obsidian]

i know, i had to share it

im mindblown

[pine roost]

I don't play halo because I'm just not a fan of it's gameplay but that is one of the funniest things I've seen in ages

[spiral folio]

Halo/cod same crowd same aim assist stuff

Twitch gamers didnt die off they moved

[pine roost]

cod has no competetive integrity, I don't bother playing it

nothing to really learn since it's full of utter cheese and lacklustre mechanics. But that's for another time

[spiral folio]

Not that i plan on putting my stats on my resume

[pine roost]

I've reinstalled the game and I'm praying that fixes something

Prolosco says he doesn't experience the rotation anymore, I trust his judgement on most things but even my friends all experience it too

[timid mauve]

Soflam unlock at level 57 or some shit

Wtf

[spiral folio]

You cant expect people to just give you something you need

In fact... nobody should have it

[timid mauve]

The soflam?

[spiral folio]

Yea if anyone likes something it should be removed

[timid mauve]

I dont care about it, just need it for the gol unlock

[spiral folio]

Get it done now

I mean the soflam spots like everything so... it takes 4 seconds

[bitter nimbus]

Yo I'm new to bf2042, any tips? I think I'm like level 5

[timid mauve]

Level 57 tho

Wtf

[spiral folio]

And the Gol is underwhelming

[timid mauve]

Thats so far away

I need it

For nostalgic purposes

[spiral folio]

Dxr better

[timid mauve]

Perhaps

[stiff pollen]

3 hours of double xp and it only brought me to BP level 77 😭

[alpine vector]

Can you get multikills on the bots mode?

To count?

[stiff pollen]

Yeah but they don’t count

Just use any vehicle and target other vehicles

[spiral folio]

Well some stuff bots count for some they dont

[stiff pollen]

Or use a shotgun and C4

[spiral folio]

Portal weapon unlocks and weapon mastery yes

[timid mauve]

Maybe play solo conquest/breakthru for a lil bit, learn the maps and level up some guns b4 jumping into multiplayer and dragging ur squad down

[drowsy shuttle]

Rorsh is so fucking bad... jesus christ..

[timid mauve]

lul

Yeah i hate it

[solar obsidian]

[bitter nimbus]

👍

[drowsy shuttle]

Seriously who thought that rorsch was a good idea...

[slender isle]

It’s a skill cannon lmao. Cant go nerfing something because the top 5% shred with it

[south urchin]

People who like fun

It’s requires headshots in sniper mode, and for the other modes there’s much better options

[drowsy shuttle]

I didnt said was good.. i actually think is bad.. but i only tried the long range ammo yet.. but for a quickscope sniper like i am, waiting to get the charge gets me killed everytime.. i guess is for camping snipers.

[south urchin]

No?

[oak gulch]

is very annoying

[south urchin]

You just have to get used to knowing the charge time and how that affects gameplay

[oak gulch]

and good players wont use it anyway

[drowsy shuttle]

Exactly... if it wasnt for the mission i wouldnt use it

[oak gulch]

the gun is not that good to get 100kills every match

on full auto is not great cuz of low ammo

u get 2-3kills maxim without to change ammo

[south urchin]

?

[south urchin]

Entirely depends on map and player skill level

[oak gulch]

u cant go rambo with railgun

[kindred flint]

still a dumb weapon

adding hit scans into the game 😩

[oak gulch]

is not hitscan

[south urchin]

I mean, it’s harder to use than lmgs yes

I don’t think that says much tho, since the avancys and lcmg are absolutely disgusting

[oak gulch]

nah

xm8 is the best gun atm

[south urchin]

And now the xm8 as well

[south urchin]

Was just about to mention her lol

[oak gulch]

best gun to go rambo

[south urchin]

LMG meta is so boring

[oak gulch]

not really

[south urchin]

Am40 is more fun for that kinda stuff

[oak gulch]

the bf2042 lmgs feel slow asf

[south urchin]

They feel like BF4 LMGs to me

[oak gulch]

xm8 feels like a riffle more than an lmg

[south urchin]

Which is more of a return to the disgustingly good SAW type lmgs

[south urchin]

Yes, the good lmgs don’t feel like lmgs

[kindred flint]

all 3 of those guns can easily run n gun and demolish people

[south urchin]

They feel like ARs with super large mags

[last swift]

"We’ll be reducing the height at which helicopters can fly to help combat instances where they are so high that locking on wasn’t possible." Ty

[south urchin]

You find the recoil to be awful?

I generally don’t

[oak gulch]

ye i feel like that too

[south urchin]

I don’t think it’s as good as the avancys but I also don’t think it’s even close to bad

[kindred flint]

its not bad recoil after a couple shots its fairly stable...run the warhawk and close ammo, feels very good

[south urchin]

With headshots it’s pretty crazy and overall I don’t find a reason to complain much

[drowsy shuttle]

Am i the only one that dont feel any difference about the weapons being snappiers and all that?

[south urchin]

Again, it’s no avancys or xm8, but it’s still a really good gun for one you can get so early on

I generally just don’t enjoy the LMGs being as good as they are in this game

[kindred flint]

you can run underbarrel nade launcher on the lcmg...that automatically puts it into S tier

[south urchin]

And the SMG’s terrible headshot multiplier is a joke tbh

Makes ARs better at all ranges

[oak gulch]

smgs are complety useless now

[kindred flint]

(id still enjoy a freaking "large mag" lmg instead of another belt fed)

[oak gulch]

there is no point to play smgs since shotguns are op

[kindred flint]

pbx is insanely good still lol

[drowsy shuttle]

I agree. Im only using pbx to unlock m4

[south urchin]

I’m not suggesting we go back to BFV levels of smg meta