battlefield-legacy-titles

[alpine edge]

I do think attrition could be improved

[spark sparrow]

Reasons main ability should be spotting from fixed wing drone or a fpv drone. But snipers probably want their spawn beacons so they can lonewolf at the end of the map with their x30 scope

[alpine edge]

yeah easy 3D spotting is so bad

[spark sparrow]

I hope it's gonna be 128, with the suggestion I made it would actually structure 128 players and not be a chaos, like I enjoyed 128 on bf2042

[wispy zephyr]

we already know 128 is gone

[spark sparrow]

Fr, why?

[alpine edge]

128 is not an unworkable number of players, they just don't know how to design the game around it

[wispy zephyr]

engine couldn't handle it, maps couldn't handle it, the amount of random spam was off the charts

[alpine edge]

they're sticking to 64 rn as it's easier to design the game around that

[spark sparrow]

Ye, I play Arma reforger alot, it's basically realistic battlefield and 128 players are not an issue at all, often I'm wondering where even the other 63 players are

[spark sparrow]

Wdym

[alpine edge]

like being able to spot as any class by pressing Q

V had much more limited 3D spotting

which I think was good!

[spark sparrow]

Hearing about 128 player for the first time in Bf2042 made me really excited

Also why not make a smaller step from 64 to 96

[wispy zephyr]

3d spotting is necessary at this point bc bf5 and 2042 both had catastrophically bad player visibility without bandaid hacks like character spotlights and glowsticks

[spark sparrow]

Bru especially through smokes in bf4 was just ass

[alpine edge]

who needs FLIR when you have the dorito

[alpine edge]

80 v 80 with 5 classes and 5 man squads would be ideal

[alpine edge]

uhhhh idk V seem fined when I played it

I'll take getting killed by a bush wookie once in a while over having a dorito on my head constantly

[spark sparrow]

• SL role that is optional? How I described the role

[alpine edge]

tbf Arma and BF play pretty differently from what I've seen

[alpine edge]

yeah

I think giving SL more shit to do would be nice

[spark sparrow]

80v80 insane nah.
Increased player count should be added to add an experience you would not get with a smaller player count. Like higher player count for massive maps.

Main issue of player count is map rotation, many servers want all maps in rotation, so if it's 128 players then all maps need to be designed for 128, you can have any maps that are designed for like 96 or 64 players

[alpine edge]

ehhh I just want 5 classes tbh

combining medic and support is weird...

[spark sparrow]

It's modded, like everybody calls it basically realistic battlefield experience

[wispy zephyr]

they had to add spotlights to players twice and you can still disappear by standing against a gray stone background

[alpine edge]

it's a trade off I'm willing to take!

[spark sparrow]

Wait who said anything about combining medic and support?

[alpine edge]

the new game has medic and support combined

[spark sparrow]

Battlefield labs? No way, that's extremely braindead choice

[alpine edge]

I've got bad news for you pal

[spark sparrow]

Why would they do that

Tell me everything else what's bad

Or interesting to know

[alpine edge]

it's basically support from 2042

except they use LMGs

[faint prairie]

when battle field 6 come out

[spark sparrow]

How does battlefield in 2025 has still no qe leaning 😭

[faint prairie]

im gender fluid btw

[wispy zephyr]

8-36 months

[alpine edge]

because bullets come out the head and people would complain about headglitching

[spark sparrow]

That's sounds terrible, I mean at this point if they release bf6 and it's gonna be shit reviews will tank and reputation will be even worse 😂

[faint prairie]

jiminey crickets

[livid bay]

Some people complained that one of the sniper "perks" is no-revive headshots from bolt actions

Like, if you get headshot by a bolt action you can't be revived

(Perks are like 4's match unlock thing where you slowly get more upgrades like more grenades on assault)

[spark sparrow]

Maybe they should change that too, where bullets come actually out of the muzzle, like we get all the unrealistic shit all the time, why not make a semi/bit more realistic battlefield once 😭

[alpine edge]

every final field upgrade tree has an ultimate ability like a hero shooter

[spark sparrow]

Okay that's trash

[alpine edge]

I agree, more realistic gunplay would be awesome!

[livid bay]

I like the field upgrades, but those really don't fit the theme they're going with

[wispy zephyr]

honestly i'm here for this one

[alpine edge]

yeah it's way too arcadey

[spark sparrow]

Ea and dice are just dumb Devs at this point, like I really hope bf6 will be good, but I really couldn't care less or give any shit if it fails again like bf2042 did, es really still thinks there is a loyal battlefield community, but there isn't

In 2025 there is so much competition and I still enjoy bf4. It's not like the old days where it was battlefield Vs cod

I have like 15 other FPS shooters I can play

[alpine edge]

especially the ultimate where you turn into a walking supply crate lmao

[wispy zephyr]

that's fundamentally not what the game is, the core mechanics are fairly arcadey and have stayed p much the same since bf2

[livid bay]

Iirc the final field upgrades are:

• Assault: A ton of explosive damage resistence temporarily
• Engineer: Thermite/Vehicle distruption Drone
• Support: You turn into a moving supply crate temporarily
• Recon: You can call in mortar strikes

[alpine edge]

I think having more physicalised gunplay is more interesting than laser beam aim demon gunplay

it's worth a shot imo

[spark sparrow]

Sure, but they could once go for one battlefield game do a more realistic approach, like in the next decade they can release the next arcade battlefields anyway

[spark sparrow]

That sounds dumb. My guess is that people will still have fun even with all the dumb stuff and the fails

[alpine edge]

another tree for recon lets you call in a UAV

[sterile jolt]

One assault tree plays like Zain afaik, faster HP regen, better resistance to flashbangs etc. I will probably main that

[spark sparrow]

Ye, at least once, so many realistic military games are super popular among pc gamers like squad, he'll let loose, escape from tarkov, battlefield 3 reality mod, gray Zone warfare, ready or not, ground branch, Arma Franchise, DCS for planes, insurgency sandstorm

[livid bay]

Oh god. I just looked at the engineer mechanic one

"Instantly repairs the vehicle you are using"

[wispy zephyr]

play a franchise that does it 🤷‍♂️ the best received bf games leaned heavily into the arcade side and dice (hopefully) isn't gonna piss away their 3rd strike trying for an audience that may not actually exist

[alpine edge]

honestly it's kinda shocking how popular Reforger is on consoles

[wispy zephyr]

see bf4 for example https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1jjuma4/omg_battlefield_6_is_too_fast_and_need_to_go_back/

[spark sparrow]

Bro, this makes me think ea is too dumb to understand why bf2042 dialed and it will fail again

[alpine edge]

💀💀💀💀💀

imagine nearly destroying a tank just for the guy to get out and instantly repair the tank

[sterile jolt]

Mods deleted the video

[alpine edge]

Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/Battlefield.

[wispy zephyr]

it's visible on old.reddit https://old.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1jjuma4/omg_battlefield_6_is_too_fast_and_need_to_go_back/

[alpine edge]

having short stocking and bullets out the barrel doesn't even make gunplay realistic

just prevents head glitchers

[livid bay]

The pathfinder tree seems pretty good, but the UAV is a bit weird. I hope they can be shot down or have a low amount of time in the air

[alpine edge]

the median BF4 player has not seen this type of gameplay

[spark sparrow]

And playstation doesn't even have modding access yet, but will get it this year, reforger will be the game of 2025 besides gta6

It's literally a realistic battlefield experience, you spawn at main or on objectives, you have spawn beacons, you customize your soldier but it's more than battlefield. You have modern vehicles like the abrams or Apache. It just doesn't have planes (maybe in the future) BC its a cold war game. But Arma 4 in 2 years 2027 will be insane and basically all realistic modern war will be played on there and if battlefield wants piece of that pie it's probably bf6, BC next year bf6 release and if it's a flop Arma will Take it all. Like Arma modded can also be turned into a casual version coming close to battlefield

[alpine edge]

they're on console or don't play on 24/7 Lockers

[wispy zephyr]

yeah there's a lot of people that don't understand what gameplay is possible and it's becoming a problem

was* possible

[alpine edge]

I don't think most players would enjoy that

tbh it looks goober

that type of movement should be reserved for other shooters

[wispy zephyr]

fuck, even bf2 had a lot more movement freedom than bf1 and onward https://youtu.be/xXX09xssmkE

[spark sparrow]

This for him or me?

[sterile jolt]

BF always played faster than most other shooters

[spark sparrow]

Bf labs movement is slower what I like but it looked weird, like maybe battlefield franchise is just lost forever 😩

[livid bay]

I just wish they would make Respawn give us Titanfall 3 😭

[tidal shuttle]

Because apex

They are making all they money from apex whales

[alpine edge]

vfc

[spark sparrow]

K

[alpine edge]

still looks goober

[sterile jolt]

BF games had 133ms ADS speeds while other shooters had 200-300ms geriatric ADS speeds with just as much sprintout time on top of that, sprintout time practically doesn't exist in BF either 🥶

[wispy zephyr]

this is the franchise identity so 🤷‍♂️

in terms of infantry play

[sterile jolt]

BF players doesn't understand how good and responsive BF gameplay is compared to other shooters

[livid bay]

That's cause a lot of BF players play console, which is inherently slower

[alpine edge]

nah it's epic jihad jeep!

[spark sparrow]

What? Which other FPS doesn't not have responsive gameplay

[alpine edge]

well I got bad news for you buddy...

[sterile jolt]

CoD

[spark sparrow]

Really

[alpine edge]

yeah no one on console sees the insane pc movement

[sterile jolt]

ADS speeds are slow and hipfire is useless, you are essentially forced to ADS all the time in CoD

[alpine edge]

it explains all the BF4 is slow comments

[spark sparrow]

But using responsiveness as word for that is wrong

[sterile jolt]

It's limiting players artificially and slowing the game for no reason

[livid bay]

Just do this #battlefield-labs-discussion message and most of the issues go away

[sterile jolt]

I played MWIII recently and a random Stadium match in 2042 is faster and more hectic, MWIII felt like I was constantly underwater

[spark sparrow]

Battlefield 4 a different game on consoles Vs pc

I remember a friend playing back in the days like 2015 on Xbox and it was like seeing him the lobby felt like a bot lobby, I was like are those real players

[wispy zephyr]

crossplay toggle isn't enough, we need input separation now that controller on pc is a phenomenon

[spark sparrow]

Play the game squad 😂 nah Ur right it's different but responsive is just wrong word

[alpine edge]

Squad ICO in Battlefield

💀

[spark sparrow]

Why is controller a problem on pc?

[solid glen]

why would someone willingly use a controller playing on PC? M&KB is so much better imo

[spark sparrow]

Hell nah 😂😭😭😭😭

[sterile jolt]

Modern PC FPS players are 90% console migrants I bet

[livid bay]

Not even consoles vs pc. It's different in-between consoles as well

PS is way slower and more relaxed. It also seems to have more 9-5 workers

Xbox is the halfway between slow because of input limitations and fast because zoomers go crazy on it

PC is the fully fast paced run and gun

[sterile jolt]

Most old guard PC fps players are most likely playing CS or something

[wispy zephyr]

there's less rotational aim assist in this game compared to others (cod) but the ADS snap is really really strong, i don't want to play against aim assist

[solid glen]

Valorant is also way more popular on PC

[alpine edge]

do I count as a console migrant if my last console was a xbox one

[alpine edge]

yucky game

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[spark sparrow]

Interesting, like I'm pc player and didn't know that Xbox Vs ps is also different lmao

[sterile jolt]

If you didn't play on PC since PS360 then you are a console migrant

[alpine edge]

man that was like a decade ago...

I played a lot of Roblox shooters before I got a good PC

[solid glen]

i think its moreso because Playstation controllers aren't as good as xbox controllers

[spark sparrow]

I mean I'm fine with controller on pc, just there shouldn't be any cheating like assists even not from the game

[wispy zephyr]

can't put the cat back in the bag there

best we can do is put them in their own game pool

[alpine edge]

tbh I've always been awful on roller

[spark sparrow]

Wdym

[livid bay]

That could def be a contributor, but I feel like it's also a community thing. Xbox is like 10x more toxic than PS too

[spark sparrow]

U mean Xbox 360?

[alpine edge]

I didn't know there was such a big difference between them lmao

[spark sparrow]

Toxic and being competitive goes hand in hand

[solid glen]

series s in $200 bucks cheaper than ps5 so it might just be an accessibility thing

also gamepass is extremely popular

also if someone buys the ps5 for exclusives, they probably don't play as many MP games, most exclusives are single player or coop games

[spark sparrow]

Maybe BC ps is more Europeans and Xbox more Americans 😂 Europeans more civilized and the toxic EU players are on pc, like I could imagine Europa has more pc players

[alpine edge]

💀💀💀

[sterile jolt]

Counter strike or R6 Siege, more tactical competitive games rather than casual arcade shooters

[solid glen]

idk about PS5/series sx, but during the 8th gen the PS4 was way more popular than the xbox one in the USA

[sterile jolt]

Yeah

BF3 was arguably last PC centric BF so most BF playerbase are console players nowadays

[spark sparrow]

Escape from tarkov

[sterile jolt]

That too

[solid glen]

shooters in general became more console centric during the 6th and 7th gen

[sterile jolt]

Yeah

[spark sparrow]

I'm glad I started playing pc never had a console 😎

[alpine edge]

... Valorant ...

[sterile jolt]

I had a PS4 and a PS2

Skipped PS3

[spark sparrow]

Idk, like so many realistic tactical shooters on pc now

[solid glen]

i had a ps2 and xbox 360, skipped out on xbox one/ps4 and got back into console gaming with the series s

[spark sparrow]

Ps2&ps3 Star wars battlefront 1&2 and cod split screen was peak

[livid bay]

Had a Xbox 360, moved to ps4, then got a ps5. Also got a pc somewhere between the ps4 and 5

[violet jay]

Does your VoIP sometimes not work on 2042?

[sterile jolt]

They are niche unless they are competitive tbh

[spark sparrow]

Born with a pc 😎

[sterile jolt]

You won't see even Tarkov doing CS2 or Valorant numbers

[alpine edge]

CS, Valorant and Siege are aimslop

[solid glen]

milsim is quite niche, and i don't think its possible for them to have mass market appeal, they're too punishing for the average player

[spark sparrow]

They are not niche anymore

[alpine edge]

I will not elaborate

[livid bay]

I'm playing Insurgency with an average player count of 2k lol

Yeah, they're def more niche lol

[spark sparrow]

Idk Valo numbers ,but Cs numbers are bot boosted

[sterile jolt]

Some people most likely leave it AFK to farm cases

[alpine edge]

they're not as niche as they were before imo

[spark sparrow]

They're not niche, they are usually developed by indie teams and people don't have good enough PCs to play the games

[alpine edge]

I think Reforger proves that there's an audience for milsims on console

[spark sparrow]

Yes literally entire full bot lobbies in china while premier matching in EU is 3min

[solid glen]

yeah my PC is in need of an upgrade but i think I'll have to wait a decade at this point to get affordable parts

[alpine edge]

every 20 something year old person plays Valorant

it's kinda scary...

[spark sparrow]

I dont

[solid glen]

idk why valorant got so big, feels like a CS downgrade imo

[spark sparrow]

I was also more saying all tactical shooters combined player number wise

[spark sparrow]

Valo players would cry in csgo

[solid glen]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

[sterile jolt]

It arguably has the only working anti cheat in the industry

[alpine edge]

league players

[solid glen]

I've never met a league player that actually has fun

[spark sparrow]

Ye, like he was speaking about casual Vs non casual and all tactical games combined casual is not a trend, people just don't have good enough PCs to play a new game like gray Zone warfare or even squad both ue5. Those games can actually compete with battlefield graphics imo

[solid glen]

i remember delta force was quite big for a little bit but don't hear much about it anymore

[alpine edge]

that's because everyone was desparate for a new Battlefield

[spark sparrow]

Met a lot of lol players that hate their life though 😏😂

[alpine edge]

so funny seeing content creators like Enders come crawling back to BF after shilling for DF

[solid glen]

well i don't blame em, expectations were really low after 2042, until the labs reveal

[spark sparrow]

BC it's trash, its a bf2042 copy, and people don't like bf2042 in the first place, you can get 2042 in a steam sale for like 4$, it's not really profitable to compete against a 4$ game, and when it comes to extraction people want a milsim game like Tarkov

[spark sparrow]

Hearing some bad stuff about labs makes me also have low expectations for bf6 tbh NGL 😭

[alpine edge]

I think there's a good chunk of people sick of modern shooters being full of insane movement tech

[solid glen]

i haven't seen much leaks besides some screenshots, whats the problem with some stuff that was leaked?

[spark sparrow]

Just scroll up, I don't like the perks, the movement seems weird and support and reacon iirc is one now, or support and medic, maybe somebody can correct me here

[alpine edge]

yeah supports get a supply crate that gives out meds and ammo

[spark sparrow]

Ye, like the average game is like 35yo now, casual games like battlefield are good as introduction to military. But then people stack hours and grow older, maybe even join the military and then want something more realistic.

[livid bay]

The black hawk down thing was interesting, but I quit it after a little bit cause it's legit harder than GTFO

[alpine edge]

uhhh I like realistic shooters but I would never enlist lol

[spark sparrow]

They don't get that support doesn't mean supporting, but it's intended as fire support

[solid glen]

only reason I'd enlist would be if i might end up homeless

[alpine edge]

me and my buddies quit after the 2nd mission bc of the escort section

[alpine edge]

I have a theory they did it bc support in hero shooters means heals

[spark sparrow]

Ye, like could really be this. It's kinda dumb trying to appeal to the hero shooter audience over the core battlefield audience, BC the core audience has now more options and can still go back to bf4.

Like the only reason for a bf6 would be better graphics I would say. No? What else?

At this point just give us a BF4 remastered with up to date graphics and better coding and no bugs

[alpine edge]

um idk I think I'll have new games over remasters

BF4 is perfectly playable

[toxic mulch]

Hello everyone, I would like to ask you how long I will wait to be invited to the Labs test and whether they give it to everyone at all?

[azure fox]

Is anyone play bfv? I need help on mastery assignment

[spark sparrow]

It is, but graphically it's really outdated

[alpine edge]

that's fine

[tidal shuttle]

We all would want smth new

However,.. there’s nothing wrong with remastering greatness to tide us over

Look what Bethesda is doing

[alpine edge]

bravo Todd for making everyone forget Starfield existed and invigorating the hype for TES VI

[tidal shuttle]

It fell off after fo4 but we back now

Do that for bf

[dull crow]

I did all the challenges for the last tiger on bfv but the tank skin says its locked

[vapid osprey]

Anyone wanna play BF1 on PC?

[indigo mortar]

project reality

[mortal gull]

I need 1 more for battlefield 4 trophies online DM me

[alpine badge]

THAT JET IS FLYING AT HAMBURGER 10!

[indigo mortar]

why are people addicted to amiens

its just tanks you cant even counter half the time since they're just sitting down an alleyway and all the AT weapons are short ranged aside from the AT rocket

which still needs mutiple hits and is slow as f

then they just self repair

[indigo mortar]

generally why did they even add this

would be fine if they couldn't take you out in a single shot whereas you need half your loadout to maybe kill it

planes especially, QF AA is fine but anything else is just nope

[tidal trench]

question for the seasoned BF2042 players, are helicopters still relatively weak or is it simply a skill issue on me? came back to this game after a year absence and i remember them not being the strongest compared to other battlefield games

[indigo mortar]

you can kill the low flying ones with the burton if you time a wing rip right but like

if you dont they just repair and do a go around and you're dead again

[summer forge]

I don’t recall them changing damage on them. It’s mostly a skill issue (myself included). M5 recoiless is best for beginners, most vets seem to go for RPG. I don’t trust the AA launcher, I’ve tried it multiple times.

[umbral sonnet]

really depends

ive seen littlebird on sum crazy timing dodgin missiles and whatnot

all about how you fly

[summer forge]

I’d get banned so fast if they ever did proximity chat in the next game 😂😂

[teal fractal]

I think its the best system for tank gameplay tbh

You dont have to leave your tank mid repair so no one can steal it

Bf4s self repair and 2042s self repair took way too long imo

[teal fractal]

Like 4 at grenades

[hollow hedge]

Labs

[uncut wadi]

when is the next battlefield labs playtest

[scenic elm]

the AA lock on launchers where all allways useless (maybe except hardline because counter mesures are less of an issue)

in every single battlefield game

the only Game that had a Useful AA launcher was BFV and people hated it because it was "Overpowered" and "you could actually shoot and damage planes with an AA launcher ! that's illegal"

[tidal shuttle]

active radar was a pain in the ahh

[summer forge]

Unfortunately I would side with them when it comes to V. If I saw anything with locking capability in V I’d be against it.

It’s WW2… except maybe something German NOTHING had that technology

[scenic elm]

the fligerfaust is an AA launcher but it's a dumb fire weapon

it was used during ww2

there is picture of Volksturm militia troops using them against the Red airforce in berlin 1945 (no known Confirmed kills for the Real WW2 fligerfaust)

and germany DID experiment with early guided anti air missiles (like the German Air to Air wire guided missle program)

same as the western allies but germany nor the US/Comonwealth forces got a weapon that was useful during ww2

[scenic elm]

just FYI the western allies had the better technology then the Axis powers, the Allies had the first operational Fighter jet The Meteor, not the germans

[summer forge]

Your first comments were about “lock on” AA, to which is what i responding to. Lock on AA would be OP in a ww2 game.

[zinc swan]

I have a question is there a discord server for people involved with battlefield lab?

[summer forge]

Operational yes. Germans had the concept for the jet engine first though

[woeful marlin]

Wouldn’t even make sense either tbh.

[slender basin]

how hard to bring back the MEC faction?

[woeful marlin]

Yeah, if only it would get a resolution boost for next Gen :/

[summer forge]

Not sure making “sense” applies

Players think the games make no sense and the players themselves are worse 😂

[woeful marlin]

I mean by self guided. Not remote guided or wire guided.

[summer forge]

I knew what you meant. I was implying the other guy thinking self guided was a thing in V

[woeful marlin]

Mmmm, Gotchya

[scenic elm]

what i ment is that : in every single battlefield game Lock on AA lanuchers where Useless, in BFV there is an AA launcher that is Not a lock on and it's acualy useful unlike every single other battlefield game

and Pilots hate it because it allows an infantry dude that is not a bazooka god to accualy damage them without a use of an AA gun

while in every single other BF game if you try to shoot down an air vehicle with a stinger or Igla all that happens is : enemy pops counter mesure after which they Kill you or just fly away and wait till counter mesure comes back

[sterile jolt]

🗣️ Bring back Fliegerfaust for BF6

[summer forge]

Ok that’s a fair point. I just rocket/rpg them

I rarely go for AA

[scenic elm]

who knows !

[umbral sonnet]

if the next bf dont got an a10 imma cry

[summer forge]

“Best I can do is an AC 130”

[jade portal]

gah damn tryna unlock the bomber is painful

[umbral sonnet]

both ngl

at this rate

we aint gettin either

matter of fact

[jade portal]

im just tryna find a good pilot who can help 🤷‍♂️

[umbral sonnet]

more microtransactions

[umbral sonnet]

pilots in bfs are either experts or horrible

no inbetween

[summer forge]

Could you imagine them bringing back squad call-ins and the AC139 and A10 being two of the options

[scenic elm]

outdated, obsoleat aircraft

[umbral sonnet]

not really no

[jade portal]

im a better gunner than pilotm, plus i need ground kills

[umbral sonnet]

god forbid a man enjoy an aircraft

[jade portal]

but damn is it hot

[summer forge]

Not a fan of call-ins?

[umbral sonnet]

wait till a gunship spawns and pray they can fly

[jade portal]

mhm

[umbral sonnet]

i dont think bf devs are kind enough to put that in game

[summer forge]

True

[umbral sonnet]

and how would one call in an a10

[summer forge]

Would either be like an air strike or a loop pattern

It would either be a single pass major damage or a 30 second loop of mid-high damage

[umbral sonnet]

yeah airstrikes

kinda like the uhh

what was it called

in bfv

i forgot

oh well

i def prefer pilots

player pilots

sometimes they aint smart enough unfortunately

[indigo mortar]

Thats the thing, I don’t mind internal repairs but its more the fact you already need quite a lot as an inf to kill it

And they can simply extend that

[summer forge]

Artillery strike?

[indigo mortar]

Hell you get two AT grenades

[summer forge]

Most of the time they ain’t honestly

[umbral sonnet]

nah it was that german rocket

V smth i think

[summer forge]

Oh that V rocket thing?

[jade portal]

i kinda hate how planes are kiinda useless against ground

[umbral sonnet]

yeah

V1

[indigo mortar]

And suddenly you’re reliant on either other assaults (who… just don’t) or supports (who for some reason cant be bothered to press 3/4 when they’re right beside you)

[summer forge]

Takes like 48000 squad points and brings the pain lol

[jade portal]

mainly because everyone can just spawn wiith an RPG or something to take thhings out in the sky

[indigo mortar]

I feel like it shouldn’t take longer but rather be capped

Like maybe each repair gets less and less effective or something

First can go to 80 then 60 40 20

Iirc aircraft simply can’t repair wings that are entirely ripped off right

Well, unless that was the normal model I remember mine was repaired and just missing a chunk of wing

[umbral sonnet]

ive never lost any large parts of my wings

even when hitting it against something

[indigo mortar]

Hmmm

[umbral sonnet]

my plane just pulls a 180 and blows up

[indigo mortar]

Maybe visual bug idk

[umbral sonnet]

which bf was it

[indigo mortar]

Bf1

[umbral sonnet]

oh then idk

i dont fly in bf1

[indigo mortar]

Its just that the whole self repairing thing feels stupid when you’re trying to counter things as infantry

Since you need your entire loadout or even more

Then they can just undo that and shoot you once

Or at the very least make them get out of the tank and have a system where its “owned” by them until they die

[indigo mortar]

And (dont know if they have this) code some sort of system where you can actually take out the tank’s mobility a lot easier so they dont just run backwards at mach 5

Or just make the damn at weapons more effective

[tidal shuttle]

Planes used to be a menace

Before the nerf

I loved them

[umbral sonnet]

if you shoot the tracks it should slow them down a bit

[umbral sonnet]

i still pop off w them sometimes in 2042

air to ground is non existent

[jade portal]

i loved how strong planes were in bfv

ngl

[indigo mortar]

Oh

[umbral sonnet]

i saw someone throw a boat at one of them once

[indigo mortar]

Still, we need at least either stronger anti vehicle weapons or let us build them

[umbral sonnet]

bf players be using anything but normal weapons

[umbral sonnet]

real

[indigo mortar]

Like someone takes the QF1 and they cant aim well there goes air superiority

[umbral sonnet]

one assault class deployed can probably take out one tank

[jade portal]

BF2042 planes are well

[umbral sonnet]

or get it low

[jade portal]

questionable

[indigo mortar]

Then it repairs and shoots the assault once

[umbral sonnet]

pretty much yeah

[indigo mortar]

Because now he’s out of ammo

[umbral sonnet]

the bf1 anti tank was so buns

[indigo mortar]

It should be like

2 AT rockets

[umbral sonnet]

the launcher literally was useless

even if you hit a good angle

[indigo mortar]

18 damage lol

[umbral sonnet]

and you had to go prone

[jade portal]

probs the biggest problem with bf20042 is that every footsoldier has anti air

almost

[umbral sonnet]

Basically lying in your own grave

[jade portal]

every footsoldier

[indigo mortar]

Even the AT grenades are like

[umbral sonnet]

the wildcat.

[indigo mortar]

Yes they do damage

[umbral sonnet]

i hate the wildcat

[indigo mortar]

All you have to do is simply get close to the tank

And also you don’t have enough at grenades to kill it either

[umbral sonnet]

then it blows up in your face and you die

and thats if you get close to the tank

[indigo mortar]

I like Enlisted’s anti vehicle system

[umbral sonnet]

apparently the calvary comes with spider senses

[indigo mortar]

They have an engineer class that can build an AT gun or an AA gun

It takes time to set up but like

They work

[umbral sonnet]

they need like

build anywhere abilities

sandbags and whatnot too

[indigo mortar]

They do in Enlisted already lol

We have sandbags, stationary MGs

Ammunition crates are buildables

[indigo mortar]

You can also use the sandbags as scaffolding to get to higher places

What I also dont get is that the AT kit is limited to one

Ah yes there’s three tanks on the battlefield

Toss up for who gets the kit

[real dragon]

yo, is bf1 and 4 down? 5 is working just fine

[jade portal]

do full XP custom lobbies count towards unlock challenges?

[umbral sonnet]

shouldnt be

they might be dead though

[proud scaffold]

Is there any way an admin can see this

Theres a person claiming they are giving alpha keys to battlefield labs

And its a scam because I don't think one person can have multiple keys right?

[worthy sapphire]

I need help, my BF5 keeps crashing like after 5 minutes of joining a game

[solar nexus]

I think battlefield needs to bring back multiple seats on the same jet like in bf2. In bf2 one person flew jet and the other would control the remote controlled missiles

[livid bay]

Making the pilot use guns while the passenger gets the missiles could be cool, yeah

[real dragon]

hm

[solar nexus]

The pilot could fire missiles and shoot the guns, while the secondary person would fire the remote controlled missiles

They should do that for helicopters aswell

Naval battles is a must for the next battlefield

[umbral sonnet]

guided bombs and spotting yeah

[solar nexus]

There hasn't been a good one since bf1

[umbral sonnet]

f18 has that system

F15 too i think

ill have to double check

[livid bay]

I'd argue that the secondary should control all missiles. It'd make people communicate more and make it less likely for a solo to dominate in a jet

[umbral sonnet]

god no

having to have a teammate operate missiles

would be miserable

and itd make solo flying impossible

unless controls are distributed depending on the amount of people in a jet

[solar nexus]

In bf2 that was only useful for shooting land targets. It was difficult to hit plane with that remote controlled missile

The pilot would do the air combat

[umbral sonnet]

solo piloting really depends on the pilot

a mix of dogfighting and anti can deal with a dominant pilot

[light spoke]

Anyone trying hop on bf5??

[livid bay]

That's a good explanation.

Having pilot be A2A while secondary is A2G would be good, yeah

[solar nexus]

Bf2 got it right

[umbral sonnet]

this

i hate having to swap just to do a2g

[solar nexus]

Also the planes should also takeoff from the ground. Rather than you spawning in the plane in the air

[umbral sonnet]

debatable

[solar nexus]

Like how bf3, 2 and 1942 did it

Bad company 1 2 aswell

[umbral sonnet]

people might camp the airfield/carrier

unless theres a spawn shield

[livid bay]

Only if it's extremely hard(or impossible) to camp them

[solar nexus]

It worked in bf3

[teal fractal]

You have 4-5 squad mates

You can instantly delete tanks with 2 people

[indigo mortar]

Bold of you to assume they do anything

[teal fractal]

And you get like 4 at mines iirc

[indigo mortar]

I cant even get ammo off a squad support

They literally need to press one key

[teal fractal]

Just ignore tank players that camp and play around it they are essentially useless anyway

Amiens is a horribly balanced map as a whole

I can spawn trap the entire game in 5 minutes if team caps points

[random blade]

Could easily have the airfields in safe space and have it purely for aesthetic purposes

That’s the main reason people want them back, just cause it feels cool to actually take off

[tidal shuttle]

Nothing about 42 should touch bf6

Keep that bih separate.

Having lil airfields/ carriers is coo. They can coexist with spawn in vehicles

Gives it aura and someplace to land to repair

[sterile jolt]

Plus system > gunsmithing

[tidal shuttle]

Oh hell nah figure that shi out

look at me I’m quirky I use plus system

Vom

[alpine edge]

not to scare you but 6's systems are most likely built off 2042's 👅

[alpine edge]

honestly the plus system would be good if you couldn't swap out ammo and barrels

[tidal shuttle]

Who am I 🥊 I’ll change it

For the bois

[sterile jolt]

Plus system is perfectly fine, you wouldn't want to use a suppressor all the time or a 3x sight all the time but plus system allows you to change them mid fight without needing to go to respawn screen

[scenic elm]

my brother in christ, you have Dynamite and AT mines that can easily kill a tank if you sneak up on it

lol

the tanks that can Survive multiple hits from the AT rocket gun are the tanks that have poor mobility and have fixed guns to the front or in case of the Mark V it has sponson mounted guns

while the tanks that are hard to flank like the FT , artilery truck or the Russian armored car are weak to the AT rocket gun

[tropic folio]

horrendous take

why customise your gun for the situations you'll be putting yourself in when you can just carry all attachments

at most i could see a removable suppressor

but a 3x sight? Take a hybrid

[tidal shuttle]

Just don’t give suppressors detrimental damage

They should just take you off map not cut your damage

[tropic folio]

without a drawback people would run suppressors all the time

[tidal shuttle]

recoil

[tropic folio]

recoil can be controlled, damage can't

[tidal shuttle]

Other attachments could give better sustainability

[alpine edge]

I just make them work outside a certain radius

or just not have mini map pings when firing in the first place for all weapons

suppressors reducing damage or velocity is dumb

[tropic folio]

yeah at least something

ideally something that the player can't control like recoil

[tidal shuttle]

I always felt like mfs loadouts was mids lol if they gonna make a gunsmith like system have weapon details clearly explaining stats..etc

also have a test range or watever

So mfs can learn how to shoot right 💀

[livid bay]

Iirc it does have a test range

[alpine edge]

yeah it does

it's kinda like the MWIII one

[leaden fiber]

bro why do the invites get sent out to ppl who have clearly never played a video game before

[tidal shuttle]

what man you don’t wanna see full afterburner turns lol

[sterile jolt]

Target audience

[alpine edge]

just how the lottery works

[leaden fiber]

who also rec in 26p

[indigo mortar]

'sneak up on it' when its either at the back of the map or surrounded by enemy infantry yes

[scenic elm]

well that's a you problem !

you need to accept that 99% of the time it's a suicide mission

but eventualy you and the tank will die 50% of the time

[leaden fiber]

22 minutes?

[tidal shuttle]

Wired connection should be required lol

[alpine edge]

guess I won't be playing...

[tidal shuttle]

Who ever had the jet was on mcd hotspot

[sonic basin]

anyone knows how to fix ea javelin anticheat encountered an error battlefield 1

[native lynx]

I literally hate everything right now I’m trying to do the challenge in BF1 for the smg 08 where you have to get anti tank grenade kills and it’s fucking impossible I have been trying for over two hours now and I have two kills, I can’t kill the tanks because it only gives you two grenades and they take to long to detonate if you try to kill individual enemies im so done

[scenic elm]

wait till he finds the Anti tank mine kills assigment.... and when he finds out the tank has to trigger the mine for it to count

[native lynx]

You see my profile picture, and my name “Shelby” and you use he

How do you mistake me for a man omfg

[scenic elm]

who checks discord profiles lmao

[native lynx]

It’s not even checking my profile literally my name and pfp is always visible

How do you mistake me for a man

[scenic elm]

how am i supposed to know if that's a male or female name ?

[native lynx]

Based off of my very feminine profile picture and the fact that Shelby is definitely more feminine (I know it’s unisex)

[livid bay]

Shelby is a unisex name and there's tens of thousands of guys on discord that use cute anime profiles

Discord is also like 80% guys so saying he is the usual

[native lynx]

I’m just so fucking tired of being misgendered all the time it hurts

[native lynx]

It’s literally a furry wolf girl

[livid bay]

People are weird 🤷

You could probably find a hillbilly using a furry pfp if you look hard enough

[native lynx]

I’m not trying to be annoying I apologize it just hurts it’s so blatantly rude when people do it

The least they could’ve done is, idk, use “they” if they didn’t know if I was a guy or a girl or edit the message to say she

[edgy mantle]

Well you could always have your pronouns in your nickname

[scenic elm]

most of my spanish male pepole i play with have female characters as there profile pictures lmao

[livid bay]

If they continue to use the wrong pronouns after being corrected, then I'd agree they're rude. But if it's a one time thing that they accidentally do, then I wouldn't exactly consider that rude

[edgy mantle]

I used to get mistaken for a girl when my pfp was a selfie of myself with long hair

[native lynx]

I just feel like in 2025 it’s common courtesy that if you don’t know someone’s gender you say “they” don’t assume they’re a man. They could’ve said “wait till THEY find the anti tank mine kill assignment”

You shouldn’t be assuming everyone is a man

[edgy mantle]

Now the facial hair (hopefully) prevents that confusion

[native lynx]

And if I’m really unsure I just click their profile and check the persons pronouns they have set, it’s not that hard

[tidal shuttle]

My pronoun is Ptfo

[native lynx]

I normally don’t crash out like this over it this is just like me having dealt with this so many times that I’m fed up and I happened to crash out in this server

So I apologize again I’m gonna go

[edgy mantle]

It is, but it was a one-time mistake and you cannot be lecturing someone for it; they made a mistake and you happened to correct them, problem solved

[native lynx]

They haven’t corrected themselves though

If I accidentally misgendered someone I would edit the message with the correct gender because I know how it makes me feel, I put myself in others shoes

[edgy mantle]

Well maybe they didn't feel like editing the original message and will correct themselves from the next message they mention you on

[tidal shuttle]

Who am I 🥊 we’ll go rn 1v1 jeepstuff only

[edgy mantle]

I'd edit it but hey not all people are the same

[native lynx]

Anyways

I am so fed up

With this challenge

Like genuinely I don’t know how I’m supposed to do this

I’ve been trying for two fucking hours

[edgy mantle]

Just include your pronouns in your nickname

Like this

[scenic elm]

honestly i've never seen anyone being upset over getting misgendered

[jagged glade]

anyone else bfv crash on main menu

[edgy mantle]

Simple isn't it?

[native lynx]

I apologize I just, I am trans I’ve been for years and online is my only place to express it so when I get misgendered constantly everywhere, it hurts after awhile and I just happened to take it out on you

I genuinely apologize I’m just upset

[tidal shuttle]

My bfv crashed consistently

[edgy mantle]

Again just type (she/her) in your nickname

It guarantees you won't be misgendered

[tidal shuttle]

can even peacefully snipe cuh that game crashes

[alpine edge]

thomas shelby peaky blinders

sorry

[edgy mantle]

heyy you're here too?

[alpine edge]

I'm everywhere....

[tidal shuttle]

When’s the movie coming. Out

I’m waiting

[scenic elm]

as a rule of thumb i just call everyone he and if it's not a he il just call them what ever they want later because i did not know before

[alpine edge]

idk the only thing I know about the show is that cillian murphy points a gun to his head a lot

[edgy mantle]

I think that's a bad idea lol you can never know

Just use they/them to be safe

[alpine edge]

oh wait ur the bloke that likes BF1 movement

didn't recognise you for a sec

[edgy mantle]

innit

[scenic elm]

Fort De Vaux Grenade spam (unless you need to kill vehicles then you just combo it with dynamite)

like i did it by just playing normaly, honestly no idea how could someone strugle with this

[alpine edge]

Argonne Forest works as well

just any place with a chokepoint really

jus chuck that shi in gng 💔

[scenic elm]

you just sit on an ammo box and spam

free kills for all

[edgy mantle]

i struggled with it since im usually the one supplying grenades not spamming them

[sterile jolt]

My prononuns are movelet/farmer

[alpine edge]

yup eventually someone dies

post stats

jk

[tidal shuttle]

I’ll be in a comfy lil AH seat

There’s my movement

[scenic elm]

if you lob a normal grenade in it will trigger the AT nade when it explodes

[alpine edge]

I didn't know that

[scenic elm]

if im not mistaken

unless that's BFV

[alpine edge]

I don't play assault often so

[scenic elm]

accualy it might be BFV

[tidal shuttle]

mine stick from bf5

Whatever that thing is called

[scenic elm]

boom stick

[edgy mantle]

lunge mine

[alpine edge]

only time I play assault is when it's Fort

[scenic elm]

no no no , kaboom stick

[alpine edge]

get to around like a maniac with the shotguns

[edgy mantle]

I main support lol

Mainly for those LMGs

[scenic elm]

there are two types of supports in BF1

1 : AFK with M1917 optical and mortar

[edgy mantle]

And for throwing ammo everywhere since no one does

[scenic elm]

2 : accualy playing the game

to be fair that appiles to bf 4 too

[alpine edge]

me

[scenic elm]

ah i see so you are the guy who on operations is wasting the tanks slot with the Mortar truck

[alpine edge]

I never use vehicles

I think 95% of my time on BF1 was playing medic anyways

[edgy mantle]

BF4 LMGs are really aggressive

I don't think you can m1917 in that game as well as BF1 because of how dogshit the bipods are

[scenic elm]

in BF4 it would be DMR and mortar

[edgy mantle]

Who plays support for DMRs??

[alpine edge]

I never liked LMGs in battlefield

[edgy mantle]

Jesus Christ most people use support because of big heavy .30 calibre machine guns

[alpine edge]

besides V

[edgy mantle]

You have a lot of learning to do then

[alpine edge]

I like to move a lot

[scenic elm]

in BFV it's more automatic rifles and GPMG's

[alpine edge]

yeah true lol

FG42 and Lewis gun are the goats

[sterile jolt]

I use DMRs for engineers in 2042

[edgy mantle]

BF1 M1918 BAR, BF4 M249 or AWS

[sterile jolt]

LMGs are definitely better than BFV LMGs but they are just too clunky

[scenic elm]

Lewis gun should have been MMG because it plays nothing like the other LMG's

[alpine edge]

I use the SKS when I'm playing engineer in 4

[alpine edge]

it's basically a big rifle

that's why I like it

[alpine edge]

I could never get along with the spread of them guns

[scenic elm]

it's funny how the Vickers K is an MMG when it's literly a more modern lewis gun that is lighter

[alpine edge]

feels like I'm more useful fragging and getting revives than playing support

[edgy mantle]

BF1 BAR doesn't have much spread

And those BF4 LMGs are fairly accurate just burst 4-5 rounds at beyond 20m

[summer forge]

Engineer in 1 and V arent really meant to move fast as a class to begin with

Not saying that’s not your play style

[scenic elm]

Engineer ? BF1 and V ?

[summer forge]

Just that’s not how those classes are designed

[summer forge]

Engineer/support yea

[edgy mantle]

whar

[alpine edge]

ngl If I wanted to use the BAR I'd just use the federov on the medic

[scenic elm]

i guess we should call Assault in BF4 : Medic/Assault

[edgy mantle]

BAR shoots faster

[alpine edge]

true but also meds and syringe

[edgy mantle]

More aggressive gameplay

Plus you get infinite ammo and limpet charges

[summer forge]

Pretty much. We didn’t get a distinction until 1

[scenic elm]

and Engi in 4 : Anti tank/Enginnier

[alpine edge]

there's usually bunch of ammo lying around it isn't really a problem

[edgy mantle]

If you're willing to go full sweaty the parabellum mg14 exists

Recoil and spread is crazy but it outguns almost every gun in the game

[scenic elm]

in BF3 and 4 the classes are called like that because the 7 OG classes from BF2 got merged together

[edgy mantle]

Actually there's barely any spread in BF1 compared to bf4

[summer forge]

Engineer/support in 1 and V arent supposed to move fast like assault/medic

[edgy mantle]

The longer you fire the more accurate your guns get

[alpine edge]

I don't think I have it unlocked

[scenic elm]

Commando-Sniper , Medic-Assault , Engi-AT soldier, and support was just support

[edgy mantle]

Doesnt assault have rocket launchers in BF1 and BFV how are they medic?

[scenic elm]

Assault got the AT weapons

[edgy mantle]

The unlock challenge is insanely hard but if you're willing to try it it's a very good reward

[summer forge]

Which means we got 3 whole games between 2 and 3 for that to happen

[alpine edge]

I'm lazy 😭

[edgy mantle]

Yea I suffered with it 😭

[summer forge]

Assault does. Not medic

[scenic elm]

2142 was first to merge the classes

[alpine edge]

battlefield needs at least 5 classes imo

[sterile jolt]

BFV support/engi is as fast as assault tbh

[edgy mantle]

DICE knew it was gonna be the ultimate BF1 weapon so they made the unlock insanely tough

[summer forge]

Ok “4” whole games

[scenic elm]

not enoght gadzets to go around im afraid

[alpine edge]

yeah

it should be Assault, Engineer, Support, Medic and Recon

[summer forge]

… the guns arent… which… wow gee, what was being discussed lol

[scenic elm]

there is a reason why the classes got merged together in BF2

[sterile jolt]

FG42/BAR are as good as ARs

Same ADS/Strafe speeds

[alpine edge]

I'm just really iffy at the idea of medics running around with LMGs in the next game

it's just kinda stewpid if you think about it

[livid bay]

If they decide that support medic is too op, I hope they go this route instead of giving medic to assault

[edgy mantle]

If you give at launchers to assault then there's almost NO incentive to use other classes since the assault rifles are objectively the best guns in the game and you get at capabilities which means you can take out enemy armour without relying on anyone

[summer forge]

I’ll give you the BAR

[scenic elm]

it's like BFV and 1, Support got the team support gadzet that another class lost

[alpine edge]

return of 5 man squads as well

not even like a balance thing in this case

[scenic elm]

what would the medic even have ?

[sterile jolt]

What should assault even have?

[alpine edge]

lugging around a heavy LMG running and reviving

[edgy mantle]

Gotta love combat medics reviving people with 200 round .30 caliber MGs

[alpine edge]

goofy

[edgy mantle]

Smokes, grenade launchers, med pens?

[summer forge]

We’ll never have a proper team balance imo

[alpine edge]

da medic from BF1

[sterile jolt]

Makes more sense than engineer carrying LMGs with 4 rockets, ammo boxes and mines on themselves

[scenic elm]

so battle rifles, Grenade launcher and medic tools

but the Assault allready has grenade launchers as his main gadzet

[alpine edge]

maybe not nade launcher

[edgy mantle]

Yeah this is stupid but I feel like engineers being big heavy dudes with rocket launchers and ammo boxes suit LMGs

[scenic elm]

in BF6

[summer forge]

I preferred assault in V For that

[edgy mantle]

no

[edgy mantle]

.

[alpine edge]

also I think a class that focuses on fortification would be nice for BF7

[scenic elm]

Support ?

[alpine edge]

yeah

probably

[sterile jolt]

It doesn't, if you are carrying rockets you should carry something light like SMGs

[edgy mantle]

Support is perfect

[summer forge]

Nothing said you had to agree with me

[scenic elm]

so just support from BFV ?

[summer forge]

I stated my opinion

[edgy mantle]

They get LMGs, ammo boxes, and fortification tools

[scenic elm]

so just support from BFV

[alpine edge]

yeah

[edgy mantle]

Yeah but without the MMG cancer

[alpine edge]

I think Support from V was great

[edgy mantle]

That should never return

[summer forge]

Just tell us you hate MMG’s lol

[alpine edge]

MMGs just don't work in a game with a "high" TTK anyways

[scenic elm]

MMG's can be good if you know how to position well

[edgy mantle]

They're annoying lol

[summer forge]

Called it

[sterile jolt]

I will play as assault or medic with SMG/carbines anyways 🥱

[livid bay]

It seems they're going full-in on grenades with the assault tree, but the gadgets is a mix up

Underbarrel launchers are extremely likely tho. Same with the underbarrel shotgun

[scenic elm]

Scout and medic can just one tap you with the bolt action guns if you have a bad position

[summer forge]

He’s been wrecked by RPT, Avancy, etc too much lol

[edgy mantle]

I hope SMGs get harsh damage dropoffs to prevent them from being meta

[alpine edge]

I know a lot of people hate hardcore in this server but the cool thing about that game mode is that every weapon class is viable

death to the AR/SMG meta!

[sterile jolt]

ARs should be meta

Maybe not SMGs

[scenic elm]

ah yes i too love the one hit wonder meta !

[edgy mantle]

SMGs - close range
Carbines - close medium range
ARs - medium range
LMGs - medium long range
DMRs - medium long range
Snipers - Long range

[edgy mantle]

They could work the damage drop offs based on this

[sterile jolt]

If ARs aren't meta then what's the purpose of assault? Nothing.

[scenic elm]

in every battlefield game, modern carbines are just Assault rifles with extra steps

[summer forge]

Considering we’re now rolling with 300 blackout and 300 win mag on AR platforms…

[alpine edge]

it's more like 2 or 3 shots

[summer forge]

Only some time before were throwing 308 and 30-06 on the AR

[edgy mantle]

Maybe split the LMGs into light .22 calibre ones that work at medium range and heavier .30 calibres that work better at medium to long ranges with the bipod

[alpine edge]

HCAR

[scenic elm]

BF3 , 4 , 1 and V hardcore with no weapon restrictions is one hit wonder the game

[livid bay]

Imo snipers should be good at any distance, but have a longer aiming time to prevent people from quickscoping everywhere

[edgy mantle]

ARs are good all rounded weapons but they shouldn't be meta by beating every gun in the game at every range

[scenic elm]

which is the whole point but servers still restrict weapons and just make it conquest but worse

[alpine edge]

only snipers can OHK afaik

to the body at least

[scenic elm]

s h o t g u n

B o w

[edgy mantle]

RSC 1917

[alpine edge]

they do that in the core

true...

[scenic elm]

DMR's in BFV

[alpine edge]

I've never played 1 in hardcore

[scenic elm]

DMR's in BF1

[alpine edge]

SLR's or the recon semis?

[scenic elm]

Scout DMR's

not Assault battle rifles aka semi auto rifles

[alpine edge]

oh yeah everyone hates the ZH-29 lmao

[summer forge]

@edgy mantle case and point

[scenic elm]

ah yes i love using 1918 tech in 2025

[alpine edge]

it's neat

[edgy mantle]

what do I have to do with this?

[scenic elm]

also it's in battlefield hardline

[alpine edge]

hardline had all sorts of cool weapons

like the M82 in 416

[summer forge]

Did I tag the wrong dude? My bad bro

[edgy mantle]

Lol it's fine

[sterile jolt]

I agree, but they should still be meta, that's like asking Counter Strike devs to not make M4A1/AK47 meta 🥶 BF6 looks like it's going to have SMG/Carbine meta instead but I might be wrong. Which is good or bad depending on how you look at it. While you won't be locked to one class to have best guns in the game on the other hand assault will be useless imo if my prediction is correct.

[scenic elm]

Assault has been allways good in every battlefield game

[alpine edge]

.... Riot Shield

[scenic elm]

2142 , 3 and 4 he was the frontline soldier with best Guns and infinite self heal

[alpine edge]

JK

[summer forge]

One of the biggest skill issues I’ve been cussed out for in game is the ability to tap fire. Makes SMG go mid range really quick.

[edgy mantle]

Yeah I disagree with metas in games, I don't like valorant for having the vandal phantom meta and cs similarly, every gun should be useful and best every gun in their specific combat roles; there should be an incentive to use other guns

[scenic elm]

1 and V he had the best guns and THE at guy

[edgy mantle]

BF4 aek meta was also stupid to me

[alpine edge]

I'm so sad they nerfed the shotguns in Val

[edgy mantle]

Exactly

[alpine edge]

only fun I had in that game

[edgy mantle]

Everytime I play valo I'm matched with Hindi speaking people shouting weird racial slurs and stuff in the voice chat

[summer forge]

Unfortunately anything outside of everything being easy and handed to the player will be frowned upon in the next game

[alpine edge]

sounds like a riot

[summer forge]

2042 completely killed the point of doing better for players

[edgy mantle]

Now everyone wants a fast ttk low recoil meta

BF1 did balance really well tbh every gun had their roles and there was no meta

Even the SMG 08 18 could be destroyed by shotguns

[alpine edge]

I love the shotguns in 1

[edgy mantle]

And it was useless beyond cqc

[sterile jolt]

Not in BFV

[summer forge]

This is why in a toxic way I love hearing 2042 players complain when trying out 1 or V 😂😅

[scenic elm]

You dare ?!

[whole imp]

No meta? Have you seen the amounts of hellriegels

[edgy mantle]

BFV assault had literal engineer launchers and stg44 they were one man armies

[summer forge]

My STG says otherwise

[sterile jolt]

Medic self heals and SMGs had better TTKs

[alpine edge]

they get insta killed by my RSC

[edgy mantle]

Many guns that outgun the hellriegel

[sterile jolt]

There are SMGs with AR damage models in BFV too such as ZK

[scenic elm]

that does not make assault a bad class

[edgy mantle]

And the hellriegel isn't that good beyond close range

[alpine edge]

fast TTK works when the aiming is actually difficult so people don't get beamed at long range

[whole imp]

Sounds like a skill issue

[scenic elm]

the Assault can fight close range with assault rifles or mid range with his battle rifles

[sterile jolt]

It's outclassed by medic in it's own specialty

[summer forge]

Type 100 present and accounted for

[scenic elm]

No, Semi auto rifle

G43 and M1 garand

[edgy mantle]

A team full of assaults does infinitely better than a team full of medics due to the AT capabilities

[summer forge]

Bingo

[scenic elm]

unless you are playing any of the infantry maps lol

[sterile jolt]

Medics also had BACs, they were both better than DMRs and snipers

[scenic elm]

If the person you are fighting knows how to aim

[summer forge]

Assault still carries

Or it could just be me and my boys

[sterile jolt]

Jungle carbine oneshot headshots up to 100 meters, you don't need to unscope it, has insane hipfire accuracy, shoots twice as fast as fastest sniper

[scenic elm]

True, but that does not make assault a bad class

[summer forge]

Sounds like you know that gun better than the average player

[sterile jolt]

I think BFV's assault was still bad

[sterile jolt]

I got gold in most BFV guns

[scenic elm]

well so do i

[alpine edge]

honestly it's a stewpid gun

[summer forge]

Yea you know more than average players

[alpine edge]

it should've been an option for aggressive recons

[summer forge]

I only got gold on sturm 1-5 and stg

[scenic elm]

Medic is the most barebones class in BFV

[sterile jolt]

Medic is the best class in BFV

[scenic elm]

you have 0 gadzets

[summer forge]

I was lethal with that stupid stg 😂🤣

[alpine edge]

I usually love medic in Battlefield but it sucks in V!

[scenic elm]

yea but you only have 2 gadzets

[summer forge]

Agree to disagree

[sterile jolt]

5 smokes, self heal, you don't need anything else

[scenic elm]

no Medic is the best class

[sterile jolt]

BFV has attrition too so only medic can self heal up to full hp

[scenic elm]

that does not make Assault a bad class

[whole imp]

Recon best

You get snipr

[summer forge]

Snipers are worthless in V

[scenic elm]

unless you know the layout of the map and just hop to the nearest health station that is on every single point

[edgy mantle]

Yeah then you get beamed by enemy tanks

[whole imp]

Only if you stay at the back of the map

[summer forge]

Which.. they do

[edgy mantle]

And get beamed at beyond close range by MMG chuds and assault rifles

[edgy mantle]

And by practically everything except for shotguns and other smgs

[scenic elm]

Smoke just counters everything, including other medics lmao

[sterile jolt]

Just smoke them?

[alpine edge]

MMG chuds is crazy 😭

[whole imp]

Well i dont and i can get like 35 kills a game if i try hard enough

[edgy mantle]

Wdym by smoke them? You can't just plop smoke everywhere as if it's a bullet shield

[scenic elm]

YES YOU CAN

[summer forge]

You’re 1 out of 100’s of worthless snipers

[sterile jolt]

Medic can

Smoke grenades + smoke launcher = 5 smokes

[whole imp]

:D

[edgy mantle]

It's good for concealment but when a tank knows you're there then no amount of smoke is saving you

[scenic elm]

nah man

[alpine edge]

Recons be like check out my sick 300m headshot (the player gets revived instantly anyways)

[scenic elm]

you don't know the medic life style

[whole imp]

Most tank playrrs domt know how to deal with smoke

[summer forge]

Then don’t talk like sniper is great if you’re the only one making it great lol

[edgy mantle]

Yeah I dunno maybe it's just me but smoke doesn't work as well as people say it does

[edgy mantle]

Splash damage?

[scenic elm]

it let's you get away with the most brain dead moves

[whole imp]

Move strategically

[edgy mantle]

Just shoot in the smoke with your main cannon

[summer forge]

You’re expecting players to be good in tanks

[scenic elm]

oh no the tank did 80 damage to the medic that has infinite self heal

[whole imp]

Smoke the tank, not you

[fallow cedar]

I want transport helicopters to hold more passengers

[summer forge]

Why does everyone in here just expect that players are actually good in game anymore 😂😂

So far from the truth 😂😂

[whole imp]

Fr

[edgy mantle]

maybe it's because I'm on asian lobbies

[scenic elm]

Medic is the best class in the game while being the most bare bones class in the game

[edgy mantle]

I wish we had noob players

[summer forge]

NA

[whole imp]

Only good players now are the rank 300s and above

[scenic elm]

Assault is still a very good class

[summer forge]

North America

[whole imp]

It always was a good class

[scenic elm]

while scout is just kinda obsoleat because Bolt action carbines

[edgy mantle]

I'd argue support was almost useless in bfv

[scenic elm]

Support is S tier

[summer forge]

All classes are in V on NA servers honestly

[whole imp]

Not when you can give surpessive fire with 1 or 2 mgs

[scenic elm]

you got Great guns, Great gadzets, infinite ammo

you can built shit

[edgy mantle]

Yeah but half the guns in the game can outgun you

[summer forge]

Expect players don’t do this

[scenic elm]

FG42 and BAR

you just Melt pepole at any range

[edgy mantle]

The LMGs shoot stupidly slow and have barely any bullets in their magazine (barring a few)

The MMGs are, yes I don't wanna talk about them

[summer forge]

I LITERALLY just said stop expecting players to be good lol

[scenic elm]

the Bren gun is the third best and it shoots slower

[whole imp]

Wouldnt that make all the classes obsolete then

[edgy mantle]

Not when assault rifles and SMGs annihilate it

[scenic elm]

it has even longer range then the bar and FG42

[summer forge]

Exactly

[whole imp]

Mg42 best

[scenic elm]

you um.... stay out of range of the enemy ?

[edgy mantle]

Enough

[summer forge]

Ain’t the class that counts, it’s the player

[edgy mantle]

I don't wanna hear that word again

[whole imp]

Ptsd?

[summer forge]

Which is another reason why 2042 ruined the whole thing

[scenic elm]

Picks Bren gun that is good at long range, Dies to SMG at close range

[whole imp]

Cant advance on the point if you cant round the corner

[alpine edge]

I like the Lewis Gun

[whole imp]

laughs in funny mg42 noises hip firing

[edgy mantle]

gets sniped, assault rifled, battle rifled at long range

[scenic elm]

good luck hipfiring a Bren chad from 100 meters

[whole imp]

I dont think theres ever been a time ive been out gunned by a bren

[scenic elm]

nah fam, you can outsnipe snipers

[edgy mantle]

Oh and MMG chudded

[whole imp]

Whats chudded mean

[alpine edge]

I think full auto ARs are the real losers in V lol

[edgy mantle]

MMG chuds

[whole imp]

Whats a chud

[edgy mantle]

I honestly don't know

[scenic elm]

the M2 carbine is an SMG in the assault rifle category while the STG44 is just a worse volksturmgewher (They are still good guns)

[edgy mantle]

Sounds funny so ill roll with it

[whole imp]

The REAL losers are semi auto sniper users

[alpine edge]

ok but the ZH-29 is a beast

[whole imp]

No

[alpine edge]

honestly baffling

the Volk is a stupid fucking gun

[whole imp]

Fr

[scenic elm]

the other DMR's are more fun

boring gun

[alpine edge]

I like the assault SLR's better

G43 😛

[summer forge]

Take care for the words you spew in regards to that beloved gun good sir

[whole imp]

STG44 is awesome

[scenic elm]

the STG44 is just a worse volksturmgehwer with better handling

[summer forge]

That was my baby through all of my peak play time back then lol

Couldn’t touch me for sh!t

[scenic elm]

it's still a good weapon

[whole imp]

Apperently i have a 1.8kpm on the katana

[alpine edge]

fuck it just add in Squad ICO into Battlefield I don't care anymore

[scenic elm]

you are totaly insane

[alpine edge]

funniest weapon in the game

[whole imp]

Its also apperently my 6th best weapon

[alpine edge]

ngl it would be funny as hell

everyone missing their shots

[scenic elm]

let's make our soldiers have noodle arms wohoooo

[edgy mantle]

squad what now?

[alpine edge]

it's so realistic .....

[alpine edge]

Infantry Combat Overhaul

[scenic elm]

Post scriptum is better anyways

i mean squad 44

[alpine edge]

I forgot that game existed

everyone likes hell let loose better for some reason

[scenic elm]

it does not have the noodle arms of Squad

[alpine edge]

always makes me giggle when people think LMGs should have high recoil

[whole imp]

Apperently on my brothers old account which i used for a decently long time has a 12.09 kpm with the kar98k bayonet and it being the 6th best weapon used

[scenic elm]

it's funny because good players still can masacare the enemy team solo in CQB anyways

it just makes the average new player more useless then ever

[alpine edge]

it just makes medium and long range shots hard as hell from what I've heard

[summer forge]

Not like they need the help

2042 is nothing but garbage players now and V is close behind

[edgy mantle]

BF2042 medium to long range was absolute hell to me

I fire like 100 bullets, 4 hit, and each does 15 damage

[summer forge]

Man, I could reach across the map with my SFAR

[scenic elm]

if there is a will there is a way

[summer forge]

That stupid gun was OP

[whole imp]

The teams i get put against would disagree

[alpine edge]

most AR's with can still beam at range

as Echo mentioned the SFAR is a demon

[edgy mantle]

They just do too little damage

[summer forge]

You get put on good teams?

[whole imp]

No

Thats the point

[summer forge]

I always get the sh!T players too

P!$$es me off 😂😂

[whole imp]

I love losing every game by 200 or more tickets

[summer forge]

Dude same

[alpine edge]

their accuracy makes up for it

[summer forge]

And then your team just says “cry about it” “get a job” “it’s a game”

[whole imp]

Meanwhile im going like 40 and 20 with a kar98

Top of the team, most points captured, etc

[summer forge]

STG or M2

SFAR or SCZ on 2042

[whole imp]

I hate the m2 with a passion

[alpine edge]

smg on assault

[unborn remnant]

Hello! i dont know where else to ask for help but, im doing the BF 1 peacekeeper easter egg and im having trouble with the morse code

i record the audio but for the love of god the audio decipher which everyone recommends doesnt work properly or i cant make it work

[indigo mortar]

whoops wait

[tropic vortex]

[summer forge]

Dude went 50-10 on CQC with only 3 caps and got mad we lost 😂😂

[tropic vortex]

Lost cause he died 10 times instead of 0, skill issue

[tidal shuttle]

PT

FO

Hc is cool just don’t frag your teammates lol

[solar nexus]

The next battlefield should have aircraft Carriers? That you can sail like battlefield 1942

[teal fractal]

I mean if he was actively clearing points and pushing upwards and the rest of the 31 players still failed to cap then its reasonable

[summer forge]

Have no idea what he was doing

You’re assuming he was doing what you would do

I’m assuming he did what most players do

[buoyant sonnet]

Hiya all. Does anyone else have this issue with all the servers being empty and sometimes don’t show up? I’ve reset the server filters but the problem is still there? Thanks in advance