battlefield-labs-discussion

[potent pine]

okay bro youre in

[feral garden]

No clue, but I asked one of the producers if they can look into it

https://x.com/BSoD__Gaming/status/1915673175314022897

BSoD (@BSoD__Gaming) on X

@oliverCAndersen Quick question about 2042 and Portal.

Do you have any idea why the team swap ability has been disabled/removed from portal?

Experiences previously utilizing it can no longer do so, and it has disappeared from the portal experience builder.

X · Apr 25, 2025, 7:44 AM

[nimble bridge]

I have no hopes for rumored Titanfall 3, if it comes out it will have same disgusting SBMM and controller aimbot as CoD or Apex 🥱

They used 1942 music in this trailer too:
https://youtu.be/9OTkhsJUK0U 😛

[feral garden]

Team Swap should now be back working as before.

[red wren]

Thanks. Yes it's working again now.

[weak obsidian]

they're busy making the Jedi game and Apex Legends updates

time to let it go...

[tepid plinth]

NO

[nimble bridge]

Well supposed leaks are saying they are using UE5 too, so it won't feel like TF at all tbh

What made TF special was in Source engine which had lots of legacy quirks from Quake engine

[tepid plinth]

titanfall 2 without the same movement feel just isn't titanfall

[mossy marten]

Literally the UE5 portion of the "rumor" auto makes it a made up rumor

For me

[minor linden]

Can’t wait for them to add AA to pc like marathon did

[nimble bridge]

Not reading NDA is a sure way to be selected for the tests 🤣

[minor linden]

I swear, nobody ever reads the nda; just see the invite and sign whatever

Dice could probably get half of this community to sign their souls away by sending 1 email

[pallid jetty]

Doesn't hurt to be polite u know

Cheers

[cursive ridge]

For real.

[frail dirge]

are they still running testing?

[severe anvil]

As the testing is under NDA you'll never know! (But yes, we're still testing the game regularly).

[crisp mason]

How about we test a server browser

[severe anvil]

Great idea. I'll pass it along.

[tacit hare]

Hi everyone, are we playing later?

[severe anvil]

You can play whatever you like later! 🙂 The Labs playtests are under NDA, so nobody will provide you with updates on exact playtests.

[tacit hare]

“Why are you being so rude? The time and date are specified in the email, that’s why I’m asking this question.”

[severe anvil]

I don't know what you mean. This is not part of the playtesting, the channel is for players discussing Labs that are not part of the program.

[fleet robin]

read it again carefully

[versed token]

They really do let anyone in

[cursive ridge]

[simple sequoia]

Lol

[glass quarry]

Is there a battlefield play test today? I reviewed my application and it doesn't even say there is one for battlefield. Just skate and apex?

[severe anvil]

The playtest is under NDA, no information will be shared about it here.

[glass quarry]

👍

[simple sequoia]

How do you know or check the status of your app?

[cursive ridge]

You'll get an email if invited.

[manic gate]

Regularly check spam too, might have been filtered to there

Like for some poor souls I saw on reddit with the invites 'expiring' or whatever

[simple sequoia]

Bet thanks you guys

[cold cipher]

How does one join the testing program?

[severe anvil]

You can sign up here: https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-labs

[cold cipher]

Thanks

[queen anchor]

What about you guys?

[severe anvil]

If you're part of the playtests it is under NDA and you shouldn't share any info about it. Thanks.

[queen anchor]

Top secret

[severe anvil]

That is why it's under NDA, yeah.

[tepid plinth]

Maybe changing the channel to something like ‘public discussion’ could prevent people from thinking this is the internal channel

[versed token]

Better reading skills from these individuals would also help

[manic gate]

feels like these more of these guys are getting invites than us, then again, survivorship bias, some of us surely got in and they're doing a good job of hiding it

[versed token]

[glad trench]

[tepid plinth]

Would do but then we wouldn’t be able to see leaked gameplay

[versed token]

tru

[manic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-a-small-price-to-pay-for-salvation-a-small-price-to-pay-price-to-pay-avengers-gif-22079658

but I mean.. at this rate the leaks are so compressed and pixelated it looks like battlebit 2 more than BF6

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-blur-pixel-gif-17588996

[tepid plinth]

we can't help you here

as it's confidential

but everything you need should be on whatever information you got sent

might be some support contact or something i would assume

[minor linden]

The literate people who got in know not to say anything about it

[simple ibex]

lol

[mossy marten]

[ruby merlin]

Me when misinformation

[safe anchor]

Im on the main menu but its Show error ocured and no able to Do anything

[ruby merlin]

Lol

[ruby merlin]

Main menu of what

Did you like not read the NDA?

🤦‍♂️

You aren't supposed to say your in it or discuss anything in it lmao

[versed token]

These are the specimens getting invited

[lucid edge]

I’m on Xbox series x, went to Microsoft store, redeem, typed in code, hit next, NOTHING happens. Didn’t install the game, can’t find the game under “games”. I tried redeeming code on Microsoft online and Xbox, again, and get “code has been redeemed”. How do I install?

[ruby merlin]

Ok so what game are you trying to redeem

@versed token i swear if this person says what I think they are going to say

I'm gunna crashout

[versed token]

[feral garden]

The N in NDA stands for "Non" BTW. lol

[glad trench]

Play testers have their own channel right?

[ruby merlin]

Why tf can't I have a code but these people don't know how to read the nda and get it

Fuck sake 😭

[feral garden]

Because selection is random

[ruby merlin]

Tes

[glad trench]

The elder scrolls?

[versed token]

They sure do

[feral garden]

And not everyone is 24/7 on the internet and understand how these thigns work. Cut them some slack TBH

[glad trench]

Playtest just fades into Skyrim intro after your first death

[ruby merlin]

What game

[versed token]

There's only so much slack you can cut

But when they have all info in their faces

i dunno man

[ruby merlin]

What the fuck are you talking about

😭💀😭💀😭💀😭

No need to crashout

[safe anchor]

Agree

[feral garden]

This isnt the correct server for Labs discussion. thast all we need to say

[ruby merlin]

@safe anchor why are you crashing out on me for no reason

I wasn't being rude

There's an NDA and you should of read it lol

[feral garden]

No need to constantly try agro on people who came here looking for help

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ruby merlin]

Calm down

[safe anchor]

A good info thanks Bro where is the good server ?

[feral garden]

I do not know. Perhaps check your emails for info

[ruby merlin]

I'm not I just told them did they not read the nda and they type a whole paragraph and say i have no friends lmao

😭

[feral garden]

the NDA does not prohibit you from disclosing that you are a tester also

[ruby merlin]

It doesn't?

You sure?

[feral garden]

No, you should read it. Its on the playtesting site

[versed token]

A little aggro helps

[safe anchor]

@ruby merlin Just weigh your words in your first response and I will have chosen mine carefully.

[ruby merlin]

Brother I said did you not read the nda with a 🤦‍♂️ emoji

[feral garden]

I mean, replies like this are also not useful. They are just as aggro as anything said to you lmao

[ruby merlin]

Then you proceeded to say I have no friends and type a whole paragraph

Chill

[lucid edge]

This is where the Bf labs sent me. Idk

[ruby merlin]

That's not agro

[feral garden]

Anyways, check your emails for the correct info/links you may need. Failing that check for info on the Ea playtesting site

[ruby merlin]

Check email for info

If you redeemed it it should he in "My games and apps" on Xbox

That's usually what happens when you redeem something

And or you search up the thing you redeemed on the store as it shows just for you

[lucid edge]

The email says to do what I said. “How to download, do xyz” and nothing happens. I’m not an idiot. I can read. Idk you guys, but you are def going hard on people. Just from an outsiders perspective.

[versed token]

Yep

[ruby merlin]

Not really

[lucid edge]

Also, Bf is notoriously bad so why not assume they fucked this up too

[ruby merlin]

Like I said since you redeemed it just go to games and apps

On your Xbox

[ruby merlin]

They didn't

[lucid edge]

I went to games and apps. Nothing there

[ruby merlin]

I've seen 40+ minutes if gameplay of the new game (public leaks)

[lucid edge]

You think I wouldn’t try that?

[feral garden]

And make sure you reddemed it on the correct account you linked to your EA account 😄

[lucid edge]

Yup. Right account

[ruby merlin]

Aren't ypu in the labs testing discord

[feral garden]

This isnt the place to talk about this stuff anyways. So thats about all ill say

[ruby merlin]

The only bad game is 2042

[lucid edge]

Idk man, I’m here looking for help.

[mossy marten]

there's also #how-to-report-and-appeal that could probably help when you make a ticket

[ruby merlin]

Ypu shoykd be in the labs testing discord

[lucid edge]

Enjoy, guys, this is a dead end. Thanks for the support desk suggestion.

[fossil otter]

Support desk redirects you to a less than useful source

Being EA help

[versed token]

Can't really help people when we don't have the same info the NDA folk do

[fossil otter]

^

@lucid edge hope you're able to figure it all out

[ruby merlin]

Fr

[split coral]

@lucid edge hey bud. Had the same issue. I went into Settings. Account. Payment & billing. Put in your credentials if applicable. Go to order history. It should be in there.

[ruby merlin]

Oh

I've done that before

Lol

To try to find that

[split coral]

@lucid edge click that and it should take you to the application in the store and enable you to download.

[ruby merlin]

Forgot that technique

I'm curious what the name is to play the battlefield labs when you download it

[split coral]

@ruby merlin There's always a back door

@lucid edge dont give up now bud! Try it out.

[tepid plinth]

we can't help

[coral hemlock]

It's not time yet, one more hour.

[quasi ridge]

@coral hemlock
I thought it started at 4?

[glad trench]

Probably 4pst

[minor linden]

Probably just labs or glacier

It would’ve already been leaked by now if it was anything special

[tough zinc]

battlefield labs

[narrow basalt]

i miss alborz mountain

[glass quarry]

@unkempt surge I know the codes are random but would me signing up a year ago and not fixing an email I got saying "you have 48 hours to respond and resolve this" be causing me to not even be eligible for an invite this go around? I used the same email when signing up for this one and I'm unsure where to go to ask. Thank you!

[mossy marten]

well, considering that labs invites are only a couple thousand people out of millions that signed up the day that Labs "interest sign up" dropped
don't be surprised if an invite wasn't sent

[glass quarry]

Oh me either, I'm just lucky I got into the marathon one. I just wanna make sure I'm actually eligible next go around or in the future.

[cursive ridge]

[timber tartan]

Ditto

[glad trench]

Call me crazy, I could care less about playing the playtests until they move on from the limited play window on set days. Hit me up when they move into a closed alpha that I can log in whenever I want during the day

[minor linden]

Is there actually AA on Keyboard and mouse in that game?

[boreal harbor]

Real

[glass quarry]

It is called aim magnetization and yes. I have mine turned off.

[minor linden]

Damn. They really want their game to be dead on arrival

[glass quarry]

Pretty sure they are the same, just letting you know what they call it.

[minor linden]

Giving everyone soft aimbot is crazy

[feral garden]

You sir, are crazy. 🤠

[glass quarry]

I'm actually loving it and so is everyone I run into

[glad trench]

Yes

PvP fights are basically who shoots first laser fiesta

Like the AA feels good when fighting the bots but completely neuters the PvP experience

Because bungie literally can’t develop a good feeling shooter for consoles without dumping excessive amounts of AA into it

[tall urchin]

Not to mention certain attachments literally improve the AA values

[glad trench]

Peak playerbase Wednesday 7k on stream

Today 2200

For marathon

Seems about right

[tall urchin]

Concord 2: Executive Boogaloo

[glad trench]

Y’all ready for them to delay the game again

[nimble bridge]

Delay the game and turn it into Halo without SBMM then I'm interested

[glass quarry]

It is very interesting to see so much pessimism come from a community who shares the same love for casual settings with tight gunplay.

[tall urchin]

Regarding?

[glass quarry]

Just the immediate distaste for something someone hasn't gotten their hands on. If you got the chance to play it and come to those conclusions then what I said is irrelevant, It just sucks to see people not trying new things even if on paper it sounds crazy

[mossy marten]

MnK AA/Magnetism being even an option is dumbing it down extremely (can argue Rotational AA as well, but ppl get pissy about it)
Shouldn't ever be an option that is even thought of by the leads of games

[tall urchin]

Honestly, its not about not trying something, there are just inherently bad design philosophies with multiplayer FPS. Rotational aim assist is already garbage, but giving it to everyone is especially bad as it just completely removes aiming from a shooter regardless of platform or input device.

There's nothing wrong with casual FPS for single player settings, but multiplayer will always have an aspect of competition because of the human element. Trying to reduce any skill gap just so you can hopefully farm casual audiences for money is not only disingenuous and predatory, but also sets an awful precedent for the genre.

[glass quarry]

I would agree heavily, if it were a competitive setting. But guys, it's a casual game where you are meant to make memories and friends. I still remember going againt a xim player on bf4 when I used to play console and it was still mad fun trying my best to 2v2 them with my buddy in a closed server.

[tall urchin]

It is competitive because you're killing other people for their loot and trying not to get killed yourself

[glass quarry]

It is not a ranked mode nor is it a tournament nor is it anything of that caliber.

[tall urchin]

You don't need those for multiplayer FPS to be competitive, people will always strive to become better than others in that environment

Even before multiplayer was a norm lots of people found their own ways to compete with each other, look at DOOM or Quake speed running.

[mossy marten]

Multiplayer FPS games are inherently competitive
Because why?
You playing against other real humans

[tall urchin]

The more you strip away the human element and skill gaps just so bad players won't leave for you to make money off of, the more you remove the appeal of the genre.

[mossy marten]

You're going for the win 99% of the time

[glass quarry]

It's strange because I feel the same sentiment you guys are describing, I grew up ALWAYS demanding perfection in my engagements. When playing battlefield 4 and 1 and now marathon, I didn't have the sense though. It was more fun to take my time to teach and try crazy things possibly never done before or just be funny.

I would also like to add that for so long the debate about aim assist on console is overpowered and all that and so if it is overpowered, why not give it to M&K? All it does is slow down your sensitivity when aiming at an individual or locks to their hit box for a set amount of time. Positioning, experience, creativity, and so much more go into engagements to make them fair.

I get on fortnite (never played it) to play with my brother who always does. He has aim assist on and I didn't yet I bodied him. This same instance happened constantly when I used to host LAN parties back in the day.

[tall urchin]

Rotational assist is inherently overpowered because it reacts at inhuman reaction times and works through visual clutter and other aspects that make player movement hard or in some cases impossible to read. All that does is remove a considerable number of player skills.

[glass quarry]

The biggest issue with that is characters have abilities in those games, invisibility, movement, shields, etc.

[tall urchin]

No one argues against slowdown or even small amounts of aim magnetism to help with microcorrections, but no good player sees the value in rotational assist.

[tall urchin]

Except RAA is still extremely overpowered in games without abilities like CoD.

[glass quarry]

I agree with both of the above. We specifically are talking about marathon however and in a game like that it has more plausibility. However, I still don't agree with aim assist being implemented. I turned it off (because I certainly don't need it to land shots) and I encourage the disabling of it. As the testing continues I'm sure I'll leave more feedback for the dev team but I simply just want my battlefield family to try it out because a lot of the folks I run into while playing the alpha have coincidentally played bf3/4 or 1. I don't want you guys to full send hate it.

I love you guys and for what it's worth, a fellow battlefield player is really enjoying the game in its ALPHA state and I hope you guys will as well. 🙂

[tall urchin]

Nah, definitely not an alpha state. It's coming out in a few months, it's well past that point. And honestly it makes sense that people who love FPS want nothing to do with a bland hero extraction shooter that also has no aim skill gap.

[glass quarry]

I get the sense you have a very narrow mindset and are unwilling to see other viewpoints. Have a nice day and good luck in BF6!

[feral garden]

People like this dont even under stand game states like alpha and beta.

Alpha simply means before the game is feature complete. Which the current tests in Labs absolutely aren't.

[mossy marten]

We were talking about marathon

[feral garden]

Why?

Lol

[mossy marten]

Cuz that's the big thing rn for fps rn that isnt bf6

[feral garden]

That's even a dumber statement above about Marathon lol

[glass quarry]

Because I said this earlier and a few people shared their opinions on the game.

[feral garden]

That game is nowhere near ready. It's absolutely in alpha state.

[glass quarry]

Some good points were made on both sides and you don't have to scroll far. You should check it out.

[feral garden]

Marathon will probably really struggle tho.

[narrow basalt]

how is the destruction in this new map?

trick question

dont answer

[feral garden]

No clue. Only like 2k people have access. We only officially have a few seconds of footage.

[glass quarry]

No Disclosure Agreement (NDA)

[feral garden]

Leaked footage looks promising, but it's too early to tell.

[glass quarry]

My man Pete tryna get people banned.

[narrow basalt]

need more people banned so i can fund my car collection

[manic gate]

[verbal crypt]

Clair Obscur GOTY contender btw these mfers absolutely fuckin COOKED

[eternal dragon]

That was tight

[glad trench]

I'm in the alpha, it sucks for PvP.

if they could engineer it so it only works on the npcs/ai enemies, cool and have it turn off for PvP I think it would work

but back to BF6 leaks... tthat new UI looking better

can't wait to see the butcher job UI mockups the community will unleash upon us this weekend

[minor linden]

Yea. I normally hate when a hud shows a gun icon, but the way they did it is just so clean

[potent pine]

❤️

[weak obsidian]

BF4 HUD with obnoxious colours

[glad trench]

is the BF4 HUD in the room with us?

[weak obsidian]

the community UI mockups?

yeah

[fervent eagle]

Soldier "Implicit0" your sacrifice will be remember (even if you are terrible at the game) 🫡

[mighty loom]

i want to try so bad but still hasn't got one yet

[nimble bridge]

Truth nuke: Nerfing movement for the complaints of bad players won't make them any better at the game and good players will still be able to farm them, BF1 is the most movelet BF game ever and good players can still absolutely farm in it

[surreal cloud]

good, bf1 is the best BF

[nimble bridge]

For anyone who played it for less than 20 hours maybe

I don't even want Titanfall wall running, double jumps or Apex grapple hooks, I want basic FPS movement available in BFV, 2042, MWIII, BO6 etc.

[mossy marten]

[surreal cloud]

BFV sucks

cod gameplay looks like titanfall already it's so fast

fuckin 360 diving lol

[nimble bridge]

Gameplay of BFV makes it more enjoyable for me than BF1

Even with the issues of BFV gunplay and maps

[surreal cloud]

bfv gameplay sucks because the maps are fuckheug so everything feels empty even with 64 players

which from what we've seen isn't going to be an issue in bf6

[nimble bridge]

BF1 maps are just as empty tbh, but people glaze over it because of muh immersion, BFV is just as immersive I would say, it's just less gray and more colorful

[surreal cloud]

bf1 you also always know where to go for a fight since there's 3d/minimap spotting for everyone

which I'm glad that's also back in bf6

[verbal crypt]

People love Bf1 for the immersion for the anything. It’s an immersive experience more than it is a competitive feeling arcade shooter IMO. It’s a solid game but doesn’t hold a candle to bf3/4 lol

[weak obsidian]

that's me

[surreal cloud]

bfv maps are also super huge I dunno what you're talking about. Rotterdam has this massive sections where it's you and like 2 guys fighting since nobody's there

[weak obsidian]

#remove3Dspotting

I dislike dorito shooting simulator

keep it as an ability for recons and gadgets

[nimble bridge]

3D spotting reduced BF players' situational awareness to 0

[weak obsidian]

muh visibility

[versed token]

(it was already 0)

[oak condor]

people love bf1 because the skill ceiling was violently smashed into the skill floor when they removed the ability to burst your weapon or move at all

it requires the least brain power of any mainline bf game

[tall urchin]

They'll just move to the next scapegoat: they're aimbotting

[glad trench]

Damn imagine having map knowledge rather than needing 3D spotting to tell you where to go lmao

[minor linden]

If you need a 3d dorito above the enemy to tell you where to go instead of just going to an enemy point, that seems like more of a you issue

[minor linden]

Maybe replacing one of the sniper perks with one that allows you to 3d spot people you're scoped in on (with a timer between each spot) could be cool

[calm seal]

I'd always argue for spotting since I don't use voip, you use it to help others and in return they help you. I'd probably prefer a leave and forget aswell as the when you shoot something mechanics although personally i'm fine witht he BF1 every1 can do it. But caspers drone for instance I used because I couldn't shoot for toffee on that game but it's really boring and I only played the game over 2 months.

Would also like to see recon get something like the pistol carbine so it's not all snipers and any anti aircraft stuff since they have the freedom to look up.

[minor linden]

I agree with the pistol carbine, but recon should not get anti-aircraft stuff

The most explosive thing they should have is C4 cause Engineer has all of the launchers

[calm seal]

BFV 5 stats seem to suggest 65% of players get less than 1 kdr so stuff that helps them kill things is fine with me >.>

Trouble for me is I would always choose anti tank expecting to be stuck next to one on a position.

And if every1 does that no1 has anti plane.

They've always put them on the same guy i think

[oak condor]

3d spotting is necessary since dice can't be trusted to make a game with visible players anymore

[minor linden]

Tbf, most anti tank can be anti plane if you're skilled enough

Also, it's up to you and your teammates to choose anti air when an enemy aircraft shows up

Whenever I played engineer on 4, I always used stationary guns and jeeps to do anti-aircraft till they killed me so I could grab an anti-air launcher

[forest oriole]

it was pretty easy in 4 tbh to get pretty oppressive anti air going

half the time people didn’t know how to deal with it

[calm seal]

Stationary guns on bf1 were good and the plane parts damage/points aswell as criticals on zeplin engines. BF5 the aa was a bit tricky coz it was all down a hole and the 1 shot sniping, 2042 didn't have any?

also plane rockets went further than your aa gun on bfv.

[forest oriole]

2042 had a solid foundation for anti air with the wildcat

it just wasnt balanced one way or the other

on launch you could absolutely dominate anyone in the air with it

now its pretty rough

[minor linden]

Imo 2042's anti air become kinda broken when they gave a specialist a full-on tv missile

[forest oriole]

yeah

and the vehicle half built out for anti air cant lock onto a jet until its right on top of you and flying in low earth orbit

[calm seal]

I also hope we get points for killing vehicles people jumped out of.

[forest oriole]

forced bailout points are dope

[feral garden]

You get that even in 2042

[forest oriole]

cuz its not a waste of time to engage something just for someone to jump out last minute

[rotund pier]

Now now this is a bit off topic
https://youtu.be/mlk6c1X09Qo?t=249

But I hope shit like this isn't in BF6

Spam jumping, dropshooting, that kind of stuff

[tall urchin]

More skill based movement mechanics, the better.

[rotund pier]

that's not skill based

I don't want to see guys spam crouching, dropshooting, sliding back and forth like this is cod

that's like, autism based fighting

[tall urchin]

Just aim at the movement, moving a lot also throws their aim

Sounds like a skill issue

[rotund pier]

the thing is

it doesn't

moving doesn't affect your recoil

or anything

it doesn't punish you

and it should

[versed token]

We aren't getting bo6 type movement

[tall urchin]

Moving affects your aim absolutely, so the moving player has to compensate for both their movement and their opponent's. That opens up opportunities to utilize strafes depending on the situation and adds complexity to engagements where skill becomes a defining aspect.

[manic gate]

we need titanfall movement

[tall urchin]

And it's not like BF has long TTK

[manic gate]

[rotund pier]

so you want BF to be a mix of CoD and Titanfall

[mossy marten]

sigh no one wants BF like CoD or Titanfall

[pulsar shard]

Don’t waste time with unemployed people bro

[mossy marten]

BF has it's own movement mechanics (not including BF1) that can be utilized for offensive and defensive purposes and for 1v1s

• BF4 airstrafes and crouch spam, jump shooting
• BF3 ADSing and shooting while vaulting, jumping related tech
• BFV slide, manual leaning, jump shooting, crouch spam
• 2042 slide, jump chains, jump shooting, crouch spam, and the others that are specialist specific

[versed token]

jump shooting is ass

might aswell not even count it

for 2042

[manic gate]

and tarkov too why not

[covert nest]

What's the new topic of discourse today.

[mossy marten]

Still an option

[covert nest]

Like actually new

[versed token]

Nothing new

same old

[mossy marten]

Someones prob getting their EA acc nuked from posting a whole rounds worth of unedited footage

[rotund pier]

every game's just blending together to me now

[deft basalt]

The way he plays is exactly what shouldn't be possible in BF6 (by that i mean the constant jumping, dropshot sliding all over the place,...)

[rotund pier]

Apex, CoD, BF2042

[manic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/hero-carefully-he-is-a-hero-fallen-care-gif-27593423

[covert nest]

Fuck them.

Fuck the dude for leaking.

[rotund pier]

bruh I can't find any leaks anymore 😔

[mossy marten]

The gameplay is of someone whos skill level is...... Yeah

[manic gate]

he sucked ass at the game but I respect him for putting his account on the line for that

[covert nest]

The first leaker or the most recent one?

Why don't they disable nvidia shadowplay???

[manic gate]

I mean there's a billion other ways to record

[mossy marten]

Most recent, and console

[glad trench]

Can y’all stop using CoD as a comparison acting like this series hasn’t been similar to CoD for its entire history

It just shows you 1) don’t play CoD 2) you barely play BF at a level you should be talking about it

[tepid plinth]

Bro’s probably like ‘wuuh? Why am I getting muted?’

[tall urchin]

You don't get it, BF has always been hard-core milsim

[rotund pier]

I play both games

[glad trench]

Then act like it

[rotund pier]

I do

[deft basalt]

yeah but that doesn't mean BF should "copy" the worse things of cod

[glad trench]

If you think 2042 plays like BO6, you might be braindead

[tall urchin]

What are you talking about? BF hasn't copied Rotational Aim Assist and EOMM?

[deft basalt]

that's not what i said

[rotund pier]

nah thank god

[glad trench]

Not talking to you

[manic gate]

super serious and life-like bro. In real life you can also jump out of jets mid-flight and whip out an rpg and shoot down your pursuer

[mossy marten]

Lets be clear here
Having a slide doesn't mean it's copying CoD

[covert nest]

Nothing will be as crazy as black ops 6.

It's not a bad game per say for what it offers but not for battlefield.

[glad trench]

BF2 dolphin diving and knife spam

[mossy marten]

I would say BF4 zou zous and rou zous

[covert nest]

Haha

[rotund pier]

it is a bad game

CoD hasn't been good since MW19 🗣️

MWII was alright

Cold War was also alright...

but not as good as mw19

[mossy marten]

Bro forgot mwiii was mechanically a good game

Matchmaking wise and RAA, no

[covert nest]

Cod hasn't been good since black ops 2 or even 3 yet you're all too young to have played that.

[rotund pier]

MWIII was a DLC for MWII

[manic gate]

nostalgia + covid, change my mind

[tepid plinth]

Cod doesn’t exist

[rotund pier]

I aint even counting that shit as a game

[silk jackal]

more like Copy on Demand

[tepid plinth]

Do you mean Haddock: Quack ops 6?

[glad trench]

World at War and BLOPS1 life

[mossy marten]

Maybe, but damn that DLC offered more in it's entire year content and patches wise compared to mwii which made it it's own game at that point

[pulsar shard]

Agree

[covert nest]

Objectively looking at black ops 6 the game isn't terrible but the practices behind it thanks to Activision like the ai and eomm genuinely hurt the game.

[deft basalt]

Yes 🙂 Those are amazing games

[pulsar shard]

BO2 peak

[rotund pier]

that's the thing about charging triple A prices for a DLC

[covert nest]

Now that's in the long lost past for me lol

[manic gate]

vangoated

https://tenor.com/view/vangoated-vanguard-zombies-call-of-duty-vanguard-cod-zombies-dark-aether-gif-2044841745006537598

[covert nest]

I didn't play waw but I did play bo1.

Well when they were super relevant.

[glad trench]

simpsons grandpa talking to the kids meme

[covert nest]

You get me.

[tepid plinth]

I had the pleasure of vanguard being my first experience with cod

Never again

[covert nest]

Shame too.

[manic gate]

by that you mean you couldn't play anything else after from how peak it was?

[covert nest]

I played the free weekends on that to learn pc and that.

[manic gate]

[tepid plinth]

It made me realise just how much of a misunderstood immersive masterpiece it is

[manic gate]

my man

[glad trench]

Also BF should stop copying COD, copy the division or gears, make it 3rd person cover shooter

I’ll make these kids cry with gnasher wall bouncing

[covert nest]

People are overblowing whatever the hell is coming for the new battlefield and or are just genuine stupid.

[mossy marten]

[covert nest]

Ironically my issues already come with potentially body armour but whatever the fuck.

[rotund pier]

body armor?

[covert nest]

Bodie the armour.

[mossy marten]

I doubt it'll be in the main MP

[covert nest]

It better not be.

[glad trench]

Armor plates like in 2042

That assault class can equip as a gadget

[versed token]

I hope they don't add em

[covert nest]

I think it's kinda funny how people cry about movement yet actually bad shit like armour is ignored.

[tepid plinth]

FaceFullOfEyes will do a retrospective on it in a month proving it

[rotund pier]

I aint complaining about the movement in BF6

[manic gate]

people on the sub going in a frenzy over voicelines

[rotund pier]

because I've barely seen any gameplay

[manic gate]

[rotund pier]

I'm just saying I don't want it to become THAT

[covert nest]

I wasn't particularly focusing in on you in that statement.

I meant the other idiots.

[mossy marten]

And IT WON'T

[tepid plinth]

I don’t think I can complain about something where half of it is hidden and the whole thing isn’t meant to be revealed in the first place

[rotund pier]

GOOD

[covert nest]

Battlefield 1 was the start of the end of the franchise.

[tepid plinth]

Hence the name :3

[rotund pier]

WHAT

BF1 was the second PEAK of the franchise

[covert nest]

Appeasing the Actual lowest common denominator.

[covert nest]

Hampter

[pulsar shard]

Yea say that to the 20+ million copies that were sold

[covert nest]

Let me make it clear.

[mossy marten]

Yup

[versed token]

BF1 has great sound and visuals

[mossy marten]

And.... Thats it

[versed token]

but actual gameplay is doodoo

[manic gate]

very brave saying that, but I entirely agree. It's consequences for the community are still felt today

[rotund pier]

how

[manic gate]

[covert nest]

Bf1 did really great in terms of presentation. It did well. It got people to buy it.

It also had the most mind numbing gameplay I've experienced up until 2042.

[rotund pier]

my most controversial opinion is that BFV had the best gunplay

and BF1 follows right behind

[manic gate]

it's actually good because it's just like real life you see..

[rotund pier]

bullets actually FELT like they hit

[covert nest]

I don't disagree entirely. Bf5' was alright minus spread to recoil.

[rotund pier]

and they went were you aimed

unlike BF4

where you had your sights on someone and the bullets didn't register

[deft basalt]

The zerging was really annyoing in BF1

[mossy marten]

Excessive visual recoil and spread being dumb (while being heavily affected by suppression)
Most maps are proto-2042 style
Movement was actually atrocious
Muromets.....

[covert nest]

They need to properly convey weapon spread.

I dunno. Make the community play better.

[covert nest]

Gas spam

Don't forget about that.

[mossy marten]

Oh god, don't remind me

Actually atrocious

[covert nest]

Smg 08

[versed token]

Gotta love having one button dedicated to counter one type of equipment

[mossy marten]

Shotguns

[covert nest]

I don't think bf1 is awful but I think it started a negative trend for the franchise in terms of just making a mind numbing experience.

[rotund pier]

I do think the BF1 were meh mostly

but then some other maps were awesome

Monte Grappa was amazing imo

Argonne Forest too

[manic gate]

hellriegal

[mossy marten]

Hot take:
If Battlefield removed shotguns from weapon selection, the game would be in a better place

[versed token]

Not sure anything would change

shotguns aren't that popular

[mossy marten]

Me playing BFV yesterday and bush wookies running shotties 60% of the time begs to differ

[silk jackal]

then it would be really boring...

[silk jackal]

ah my favorite map to shotgun on xD

[mossy marten]

Disagree

[rotund pier]

I can't even remember the last time I died to a shotgun

[silk jackal]

I just love shotgunning down people who whine about it 😛

[tepid plinth]

The time after they buffed the pump action in 2042 was a scary time

[tall urchin]

I also survive getting out of an exploding vehicle at speed

[rotund pier]

Aw man

my biggest complain about everything I've seen

is still the fucking weapons

restrict the weapons to classes damn it 😭

[ruby merlin]

So

Uhh

The elephant in the room

[tepid plinth]

What’s that

[nimble bridge]

2042 has best visibility in the series despite being the newest game

At least past BF3, BC games most likely had good visibility

[oak condor]

before or after they bandaid patched it with glowsticks and 3d spotting?

[nimble bridge]

Glowsticks, it doesn’t even need 3D spotting, 3D spotting makes it even worse because you can’t traverse those maps without getting shot from 20 different directions

2042 clearly wasn’t designed with 3D spotting in mind and it shows, maps are horrendous to play in

[manic gate]

you don't know what an elephant is?

[small matrix]

🐑

[tepid plinth]

yes, but what's the elephant in this context

[ruby merlin]

Labs

The uhh

[mossy marten]

the fact that someone decided to upload a full unedited round of labs on YT (but has been nuked since)

[ruby merlin]

Leaks

Lol

[mossy marten]

and they probably lost their acc in the process

[ruby merlin]

They did because they requested not to have microwave filter

They sacrificed themselves 😭

EA carpet bombed then most likely already

[weak obsidian]

I respect their sacrifice

[mossy marten]

at this point, i'd rather wait for gameplay from a decently competent player

[weak obsidian]

🫡

[ruby merlin]

Yeah they didn't have thumbs

😭

[mossy marten]

yeah.....

i guess coverage of marathon died down a lot after that enders twitter post went viral

[ruby merlin]

Lol

I'm personally more excited for Ark Raiders

[minor linden]

You won’t ever see that. Anyone good enough to be considered competent by the wider community is also smart enough to not nuke their account by leaking

[glass eagle]

Do we have any info about Play Test on PC?

[mossy marten]

i know, but we can hope 🤷‍♂️

[mossy marten]

there's Labs min/rec specs in the pinned posts in this channel, otherwise it's all platforms afaik that are doing labs

[ruby merlin]

Honestly that makes sense

[glass eagle]

Oh I see, it must be random random, I joined at the annoucement still no invite

[mossy marten]

yeah, it's really random, probably only a couple thousand invites so far, and over a million people in labs announcement queue

[tepid plinth]

well I didn't know that :(

[mossy marten]

it's literally .003-.006% invited (if using 3000-5000 as a random amount)

[mossy marten]

[tepid plinth]

haven't seen any of the 'new wave' of leaks, far too focused on uni work

[rugged seal]

I just checked the reddit and it has some

[glad trench]

Link?

[mossy marten]

For enders post?

[rotund pier]

There’s a 25 min video on youtube

[glad trench]

Yeee thanks

[rotund pier]

Game looks amazing ngl

Like

Visually? In such an early stage?

The new map looks gorgeous

And the sound design is PEAK

[weak obsidian]

movement looks really hefty

[glad trench]

That gameplay is a console player with a low FOV playing without thumbs. That’s like saying BF3 was hefty after watching console gameplay

Lmao that thread

People defending that game like bungle will see them and give them one of Pete’s cars

[weak obsidian]

I've seen higher FOV gameplay

the slide looks like an in between V and 1

[tepid plinth]

wish I could tell how it feels >:(
gib invit

a shooter where you don't need to learn aim
no thanks

[mossy marten]

Damn, didn't know you hated CoD that much

[tall urchin]

It's especially sad seeing that level of AA with such slow basic movement

Like how are gunfights supposed to be even remotely interesting at that point?

[tepid plinth]

If it’s a high ttk at least add some movement to it

It’s either lots of movement with fast ttk or slow movement with a long ttk

[tall urchin]

I get when your average bot can't track a superglide or Kiriko strafe but that's like grandpa moving with cinder blocks replacing his wheels on the walker

[weak obsidian]

I thought Halo Infinite was fine with mouse AA

this is on a whole another level

[tall urchin]

God no, that was atrocious

RAA is already awful, adding it to M&K is fucking insulting

[weak obsidian]

I thought it was fine

[tepid plinth]

Just the mere concept of it I dislike

[tall urchin]

That's probably because you need it

[weak obsidian]

that's just the consequence of crossplay

[tall urchin]

No, it's the consequences of corporate greed

[weak obsidian]

crossplay?

[tall urchin]

RAA exists just to raise the skill floor to insane degrees so they can retain even the worst of casual players so they stick around long enough to farm for battlepasses and cosmetic drops

[weak obsidian]

well

casual players are the most common player so yeah

probably in their best interest to keep those players engaged

[tepid plinth]

with skill based matchmaking that shouldn’t even matter anyway as these people won’t be going up against anyone decent

[tall urchin]

And yet video games in the past had no issues selling blockbuster numbers and being lucrative

But I guess if you aren't spending 300 mill on advertising then how are you supposed to make money?

[weak obsidian]

um yeah but those games were pretty 'casual'

[tall urchin]

Far less casual than modern titles

Weird they didn't need any of those systems in place because they sold titles off being well made titles with a long history of success

[weak obsidian]

Bungie gunplay has always been reliant on AA

it's designed for controllers

[tall urchin]

"Designed for controllers" is just code for "we can't make a legitimate shooter with skill gaps". Not even an FPS.

[weak obsidian]

I get what you're saying but some games have been catering casual players for decades

this isn't anything new

I'd argue modern shooters have been increasing the skill ceiling

[glad trench]

Go to the battlefield labs webpage

[digital raft]

FUCKKK

[wanton mauve]

this one?
ea com /games/battlefield/battlefield-labs

[digital raft]

I saw the email to late

[clear viper]

You are not allowed to say this btw

[nimble bridge]

DICE is listening to the movelets to make the game worse for them, I have yet to see a single decent player from the leaks, only somewhat average player used slide once and jumped once and entire reddit community was saying ''It looks like CoD, BF is dead, remove slide!''. Movement nerfs are an indication of what DICE wants imo, they want to listen to the people who are going 1/30 in matches 😂 Bro, they ain't even playing the game, they are participating in other people playing the game.

[tall urchin]

Not a coincidence every person in labs tests are absolutely atrocious and have no hours

[mossy marten]

Every person who's leaked labs so far*

Cuz we know good players ain't gonna leak shit

[tall urchin]

Honestly even from the leaks I havent seen anyone notable in the scoreboard or chat

[weak obsidian]

this

every public high quality leak will be from someone who don't gaf

[tall urchin]

And given that the movement from the latest looks even slower with longer sprint transitions I'm sure they're listening to said bots

Looks like pre release BF4

[weak obsidian]

it reminds me a lot of MW22 movement with the slowed slide

I can't tell if they slowed down the sprint speed at all

could be bc of the animation and fov

[tall urchin]

Speed looks the same but looks like it takes five centuries to reach top speed

[weak obsidian]

I think jumping got a bit of a nerf as well lol

movelet bros we're so back...

[mossy marten]

People basing movement off a controller user who's not able to hit the broadside of a barn is a stretch and a half

[weak obsidian]

I've seen higher FOV gameplay

it does look a tad bit slower

[mossy marten]

Movement as in everything else that isn't sprint

[weak obsidian]

?

[mossy marten]

Sliding, jumping, etc etc

[weak obsidian]

from what I've seen the slide slows you down by a decent amount at the end

[cloud loom]

Hi guys I heard that in the bf lab there will be no bunny hop, is this true?

[verbal crypt]

From what I’ve seen in the recent leaks online movement got a big nerf. Looks very slow and weighed down.

[covert nest]

Apparently they aren't inviting any more people to the tests because of the leakers.

This is why we don't deserve nice things.

[weak obsidian]

who said that?

[covert nest]

I went out on and limb and said what I said but I wouldn't be surprised?

[weak obsidian]

I doubt they'd stop inviting more people just bc 2 dudes leak footage

[covert nest]

Yesh

A bit of an overblow but at the same time with how consistent it's been.

[weak obsidian]

the last two playtests on Battery didn't really get good leaks

interesting how Capstone has been the most leaked so far lol

[glad trench]

all the xbox players wanting their 15 secs of fame

[weak obsidian]

taking one for the team 🫡

[glad trench]

people glazing these new leaks hella hard. this is as good of bang for your buck advertistment they'll get

[covert nest]

It's irritating for those who want to be surprised.

[weak obsidian]

I think most people aren't too honed into the leaks tho

[rugged seal]

fr wish they would stop

[weak obsidian]

it is crazy how you can know every map, weapon and gadget if you look hard enough

[glad trench]

no one but hardcore BF fans are having anything spoiled

all the casuals will learn from these leaks is their one plugged in friend saying how good it looks

[nimble bridge]

#Removegunsmithing 😭

[weak obsidian]

I've got bad news for you pal...

[nimble bridge]

I know 😭

[feral garden]

Kinda funny that the weighted attachment system I proposed months ago is basically what they are doing 😄

[weak obsidian]

I'm concerned about the ammo types

you can go from a 1.35 to a 1.7 and then a 2.1 headshot multiplier depending on what rounds you're using

[covert nest]

I actually agree on that

[mossy marten]

They need to cost a bit more that they currently do

[feral garden]

Didnt the 2.1x mags cost 30 tho? thats a massive part of setup budget

Considering lots of weapons looked to have 6+ attachments slots, not just 4 like 2042

Its all tweak-able TBH tho, and im pretty happy with what they are cooking. The limited points system seems perfect for modern FPS gun-smithing balance.

[dusky raven]

hmm

[nimble bridge]

Everyone will use polymer anyways

Higher ADS strafing speed

Also cheap

They just nerfed HS multipliers for no reason other than to make roller players happy

[weak obsidian]

yeah I dunno... I think the weight system is a good concept but I don't think attachments should affect a guns performances so drastically

[nimble bridge]

I personally thing gunsmithing is 💩

[weak obsidian]

my main problem with CoDs gunsmith is that guns lose their identity

every gun can be any gun

[nimble bridge]

CoD was better without gunsmithing

BF will be same

[weak obsidian]

real and true

it's such a flawed system

[nimble bridge]

BFV had better gunsmithing too, it's just visual gunsmithing

Specializations are what mattered and they were very limited

I bet 90% of the people who likes gunsmithing likes visual aspect rather than gameplay aspect too

[weak obsidian]

every cool looking set up sucks tho!

BF4 already has the base for a good attachment system

[nimble bridge]

👆

[feral garden]

Maybe for gamers 15 years ago. Modern players in the majority seem to want weapon crafting.

I'm Good with whatever.

A gunsmith is just a few more steps towards everyone using the same weapon as ye explain it.

And maybe ye have forgotten, but while BF4 had a lot of weapons, only maybe 5 were actually used enmasse

[nimble bridge]

Same as modern CoD with gunsmithing then 😂

BO6 has most variety I would say and that has like least amounts of customization

All of them are straight positives with no negatives, and like 5 attachment options per slot

[mossy marten]

Imma wait and see until I het hands on, hopefully one day
If stuff needs tweaking, imma straight up say they need tweaking

[weak obsidian]

I like dolling up my guns but I think most attachments should be provide minor buffs

keep customization mainly visuals

[nimble bridge]

They won't do it otherwise they won't be able to sell pay 2 skip bundles on store

[weak obsidian]

BF4 had the battlepack grips which looked different but performed the same as their normal counterparts

[feral garden]

Like I said, I'm fine with whatever. What they have in place seems like it can be really interesting. Time will tell.

[weak obsidian]

it's not a realistic system nor good for balancing

[nimble bridge]

Buy the deluxe edition, buy the battlepass, buy the skin bundle, buy the weapon blueprint, this is the name of the game

[weak obsidian]

worst of both worlds imo

[nimble bridge]

I'm not even sure if DICE is to blame, pretty sure EA forced them to do it because they saw how much money CoD makes with selling blueprints on the store

[potent pine]

i still dont understand who the hell buys those things lol

ive never met a single person who admitted buying a skin or weapon bundle in cod

[nimble bridge]

People with low impulse control

[potent pine]

erm,,, dude dont insult the playerbase!

[weak obsidian]

um... I have...

at most three times

[potent pine]

wow

[weak obsidian]

otherwise I'm a battlepass jabroni

[mossy marten]

I bought a couple things here and there, very rarely tho and only if it really was something that was interesting

[potent pine]

do you regret

[mossy marten]

It was during mw19, so no, because i played it a lot
But that game was maybe 3 skins total, not even bundles

[weak obsidian]

only mtx I spent on MW19/WZ was the one Bale bundle with the black AK blueprint and the season 4 battlepass

[mossy marten]

2042 i bought some skins here and there that were decent (pp29 with that custom opk sight, and i think an m5a3 skin and falco skull)

The rest of the skins were bought by battlepass rewards

[covert nest]

I just buy stuff i like.

[weak obsidian]

oh and the Snoop Dogg skin

[nimble bridge]

I mostly bought CS GO skins when I was a kid

[weak obsidian]

I regret selling some of mine 💀

[tepid plinth]

Spent upwards of £30 on Fortnite skins and then realised buying skins simply isnt worth it as I will never see those skins or use them again :/

[weak obsidian]

they're worth 10x now...

[nimble bridge]

All of them went up price lol

[weak obsidian]

it's kinda crazy

my current AK skin is like double the price

[mossy marten]

Mwiii was nice because there was lots of skins you can earn just by grinding

[weak obsidian]

I've spent more than that but I do rotate through them

[tepid plinth]

I love the Wii

Wii sports resort was so fun

[nimble bridge]

Lol

I would've bought some of the 2042 skins but I'm glad I didn't

[tepid plinth]

Don’t even see the skin 90% of the time

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, I mean weapon skins though, I bought maybe 1

[mossy marten]

[tepid plinth]

Weapon skins do make slightly more sense ill admit

[mossy marten]

Mwiii zombies mastery was the only thing I ran

[nimble bridge]

Legendary AK5C on the store looks so good 😭

[potent pine]

so true

[nimble bridge]

I wonder how will the new EU mandate will effect the MTX in BF6

[tepid plinth]

I wonder how often they’ll treat skins as content in bf6

[potent pine]

i think its a nothingburger

nothing will change

sadly

[weak obsidian]

at least the pricing will be more transparent

[tepid plinth]

Now I’ll be able to tell exactly how much I am saving!

[potent pine]

as thatd make a difference for the people willing to buy

[weak obsidian]

I mean it's just neat ig

always hated the left over currency crap

[manic gate]

Well I certainly hope we don't get anymore 'reworks' of maps

[indigo pebble]

well tbf the rework maps dont hit as good as the originals

[manic gate]

I found them all better.

btw I mean the 'reworks' of the launch 2042 maps

the remakes of older maps from previous titles? I agree with that

[covert nest]

As long as they bring out original maps but also do remade maps (to add to the rostrer and lessen dev time) then yes.

[mossy marten]

I just hope it's not the "for some reason fan favorites, but actually garbage in gameplay" maps that are remade

Aka
Caspian border

[nimble bridge]

BC2 maps were so good in 2042

BF3 and 1942 maps though not really

[nimble bridge]

I agree, they need to remake more maps for the portal instead of abandoning it after launch, imagine if we got CQC or Aftermath DLC BF3 maps

[digital raft]

👍

[minor linden]

Golmud shall return

[mossy marten]

Eww

[tepid plinth]

Shanghai

Never enjoyed that map

Yet cause skyscraper and c point people seem to like it

[vast ice]

Bro the leaks are going crazy! Why is everyone getting invited just leaking everything might as well open it up so we can stream the game lol

[tepid plinth]

Its definitely not everyone, just a select few. Clearly the early ones have been banned from it which is fun

[vast ice]

What’s crazy is the leaks don’t show anything but Ai bot

No gun fights moving like they don’t play the game lol

[tepid plinth]

It is rather humorous

One reason why I’m not going to judge what we see too harshly as it just isn’t fair to

[rotund pier]

it's upsetting that out of the 0.06% of people they could've sent the invitations to, every single one was sent to someone who hasn't played a FPS in their lives before

[digital niche]

"EA and DICE not happy about the leaks."

What did they expect?

[rotund pier]

naw they are happy af about the leaks

[digital niche]

Are they

Are they rearry

[mossy marten]

Well now they know not to invite random people
They will probably change it up to a different system in the future

[rotund pier]

do you have any idea how much it's boosting the perception of the game?

everyone's looking forwards to the game and it's because of the fact that the leaks look good

again, STILL WISH THEY WOULD FUCKING LOCK GUNS TO CLASSES, EHEM, EHEM

BECAUSE YOU ARE LISTENING, RIGHT DICE?

[mossy marten]

It's not even confirmed if it's locked or not yet, let's wait for more info on that in the future

[digital niche]

Only rumors circulating on the main BF CCs so that's why I'm not posting their video links in here.

But it was indeed a headline

[mossy marten]

Well you can just look at TotalFPS's post on reddit regarding the leaks 🤷‍♂️
That's something concrete to look at instead of rumors and stuff

[digital niche]

Which is why I'm wondering why CCs are throwing it out there now?

[vast ice]

So it seems they might stop the invites I mean I believe battlefield had the right idea!! But I hate to say it creators who are partners and stream should have gotten the invite and privately had ways to interact with said community without leaking letting everyone get in. Was a big mistakes

23 min video being leaked is crazy

[indigo pebble]

na big creators are a joke they get told here a whitstle and they blow the tune there told

and very few have imagenation they cant speak for the avarage battlefield player

[vast ice]

I didn’t say creators program lol I said invites! I also didn’t mention big creators I said creators who are partners and can keep the gameplay for later! As well I didn’t mean invite shroud or nadeshot types lol. Just saying there’s a huge creators who played battlefield nonstop and before who would be a good idea in not to leak shi

I can tell you there are tons of hardcore life long battlefield players who haven’t got to test the game

They invited kids plan and simple

They wanted the leaks free advertising

Marathon was going to do that then reverse that Quickly lol

[mossy marten]

Tony's got the right idea
Start off Labs testing with inviting BF creators and then having those creators invite individuals from their community they know they can trust with not leaking stuff and then extend invites to others CCs who invite others they trust, etc etc

[vast ice]

💯

I seen the leaks it’s like watching Devs play to be honest all we really know is the leaks could be from devs

Not actual players I haven’t seen anything omg crazy form good players

[mossy marten]

Ok that's some tinfoil hattery there

[vast ice]

Watch the videos it’s clear as day. You can going to leak at least film yourself taken out tanks and dudes and T bagging lol

Doing massive trick shots or something. Nope

It’s dudes running around missing shots lmao

If you are going to leak *

[mossy marten]

Yeah, it's people who aren't fps players or not interested in the franchise at all who are looking for their 5min of fame before they get nuked by EA

[vast ice]

Yeah the thing is! They should atm create a creators program this invite stuff just isn’t cutting it

[mossy marten]

Well they wanted to include the general public, but it's sorta backfired so who knows what the future holds regarding invites and the like

[vast ice]

Well I mean the game looks amazing since we’re not getting full access until next year I’m hyped lol

Not liking the big map ideas but that’s just me I don’t want to the game to look clean I want it to feel like Battlefield lol

[mossy marten]

But.... The game doesn't look "clean" like 2042 thus far

[vast ice]

Yeah but if it’s big maps bad shitty movement cluster fuzzz. I won’t do it

I’m definitely the one praising a battle royal. That’s me being an Apex dude I miss BF3/4 but idk if they are able to recreate that feeling

[digital niche]

Yeah I like this idea alot. But I don't want DICE or EA to force the creators to kiss butt and only say good things. That's unrealistic I want an honest and straightforward review with independent CC opinions.

[untold compass]

You’re right, battlefield shouldn’t focus on big maps. They should focus on the team playing. Making classes supporting each other. They need to get down the team playing not how big the maps could be.

[vast ice]

Yep! Don’t get me wrong I want Op locker to return the OG map no changes I think for me I want nade spam gone

Like give me smokes but nades and flashes should be one life only

[untold compass]

Yeah, I get you. Operation Locker would be perfect without all the nade spam. Limiting grenades and flashes to one use per life would seriously make infantry fights way better and smokes actually help with team pushes.

The grenades and flash grenades could be banned on specific maps, or is that too much?

[vast ice]

Naw I like that lol ban maps on close Quarters would be crazy fun. But most importantly we need rent a servers

That someone pays monthly

Like BF4.

[untold compass]

If they have a server browser….

[versed token]

or make server "renting" free like in 2042

[untold compass]

Yeah, I just hope it wasn’t a let down like portal

[tepid plinth]

But then people will just respawn just to spam grenades

[untold compass]

It could be a cooldown every time you spawn with grenades or flashes. Like a 1:30 minute cooldown. Or altogether remove it from the map entirely

[glad trench]

So what. Most lifelong BF players are as garbage as the thumbless players in the leaks

[untold compass]

At least Lifelong BF players know what to do, and not run around like a headless chicken

[glad trench]

There are plenty of good players within the playtests that are smart enough to not break the nda… at least not publicly

[glad trench]

No they don’t

[untold compass]

How?

[glad trench]

Most BF Boomers I meet and have played with are dumber than my dog

[untold compass]

You’re right about “Most”

But not all

[glad trench]

I’d wager the average is in the same league as the leakers

[untold compass]

It matters about feedback, not skill level

[glad trench]

If you’re the bad at the game there is no level of feedback they can give that is worth the dev time to read it

[untold compass]

That is true, the system they use to find these people are horrible

[runic crest]

I don’t see what makes someone a “bad player” in Battlefield. It’s a game where you can play differently and still be helpful to your team. I don’t have great aim—at best I have a 1.4 KDA—but I still end up in the top 5 most of my games because I play with my team, lol.

[untold compass]

Yeah, I ran a game on BFV just giving out orders and I still got top 10

[runic crest]

At the end of the day, it’s a team-based game—you can’t change the outcome of the match by yourself. If you understand that, you’ll already be better than at least half of the player base (ahem, marksman players).

[untold compass]

The thing is these people who are leaking the gameplay don’t even give ammo, heals, revive, destroy tanks, spot, nothing.

[tepid plinth]

I’d argue it’s definitely possible to. There are many situations where one person playing well can be the force that lets everyone else push into a point, which contributes towards match success. But more generally, yeah that’s true

[runic crest]

So they are unaware of the basic mechanics of Battlefield and know nothing about how to help their teams. From my understanding, they are brand new to the series, since anyone who has played Battlefield at least knows what to do in one of the scenarios. It’s actually kind of funny when you think about it—it’s an alpha test.

[tepid plinth]

As mentioned prior, the smart ones aren’t leaking :)

I saw some names on the early leaked clips of people I’ve spoken to here before but they are diligently keeping their mouth shut because they understand the concept of closed tests

[vital nexus]

@obtuse idol You playing?

[runic crest]

Oh, definitely—there will be edge cases where some cracked Adderall junkie goes 100/10 KD, just beating baby seals in the lobby. That’s standard in some matches.

[untold compass]

So true

[tepid plinth]

And won’t say who either, in case anyone had any ideas

[untold compass]

Does anyone know when the next playtest is?

[runic crest]

Man, why would you breach a legal contract, which is open to legal action? How dumb can someone be to potentially ruin their life for 10 minutes of internet popularity?

[oak condor]

this already exists but it's mostly yes-men and unpaid dice PR reps

[tepid plinth]

Because they don’t know it’s a legal contract

Simple

Judging by Reddit comments alone a very substantial amount of the playerbase simply don’t know that tests like these are meant to be kept behind close doors

[digital niche]

Are you sure about that

[tepid plinth]

To the point where people copy paste the part of an email saying it’s confidential in all caps as a comment (alongside whatever else is in it)

[runic crest]

Reddit’s gotta be Reddit. I mean, their worst insult is, "Man, you are on Reddit."

[feral garden]

Dont listen to all the jaded people here, plenty of non yes men have access to labs...they simply dont speak about it as per the NDA

[oak condor]

the creator program, not the testers

[digital niche]

Well because they don't read the NDA.

[feral garden]

Creators in that dont instant get access

[untold compass]

I sense a storm brewing

[mossy marten]

Yeah, we know
It's just a different style of inviting would have worked better (possibly) to lower leaks a lot (maybe zero leaks in general)

[feral garden]

You wouldnt get the correct pool of players then, and people here and on reddit would be shreiking about favoritism

[mossy marten]

not all creators are Enders/focus level of skill

[runic crest]

Most likely, they’re going to stop taking in new people and let the existing testers simmer for a while. That’s the most sensible thing they could do—at least, that’s what I think, considering the constant leaks. Sad for me, since I was really excited about it.🫠

[feral garden]

"REEE, they only invited their yes men BF creators like with 2042...this game is going be ass cheeks!!!!"

Your average Discord/Reddit users thought pattern

[tepid plinth]

And so people ended up shrieking about it anyways

[digital niche]

IMO it would've been better with just known CCs, like Tony said.

[untold compass]

Keep in mind after the game’s release you can playtest new maps? I think

[feral garden]

Yeah, enough to fill maybe 1 server for testing 😛

[mossy marten]

yeah, that's what i expanded upon when talking with him
Start off with al types of BF creators (not just the yes man cough jackfrags cough) and have them invite those they would truly trust to not leaks stuff, and then continue expanding from there

[obtuse idol]

yessir

[feral garden]

And as I ve said before, inviting only people who already know BF well will also result in a terrible game. You need outside experience, and complete novices to make any game better under tests like these.

[digital niche]

I didn't know Jack shilled

[mossy marten]

"and then continue expanding from there" which would include CCs from other genres/FPS games

[feral garden]

Jack did some sponsored videos for 2042, so we have to ignore all the critical videos he did on it too. Doing a sponsored video makes you a complete shill, dont you know? /s

[mossy marten]

i would've named another one, but i feel like more hate would come from it

[digital niche]

🙄

[runic crest]

That would be cool. Well, when we get a skeleton of the game, I can decide whether to buy it or let it go. I’ve really gotten tired of high-paced FPS games—BF4 and BF1 have become my golden games to sit back and relax with.

[digital niche]

Ghost gaming?

[feral garden]

This is how your average reddit users brain works...based on the thread that was on the sub today

[mossy marten]

nah

[untold compass]

So true

[digital niche]

Yeah I like ghost gaming for how he presents info

[mossy marten]

yeah, i don't watch him often, but he generally does a normal news related stuff rather than "2042 is AMAZING" type videos 🤷‍♂️

[runic crest]

Who says 2042 is amazing as a thumbnail? That’s one way to kill your whole video, lmao.

[digital niche]

Almost no one

[mossy marten]

Someone for sure

[runic crest]

I mean it's not a crime to love a game lol

[feral garden]

the only CC I know that does that is Squid. I like them as a person, but cant stand the content. Nice dude, content is not for me

[runic crest]

squid G?

[feral garden]

Yes

[runic crest]

Oh yeah, it's Squid G. I kind of noticed that most of the BF content creators, even the OG ones, are starting to die out. Like, Jackfrags back in the day was getting 500k-1m views in the BF3/4/1 era. Now he’s doing Reforger content.

[feral garden]

the ones that survived moved to other games.

[mossy marten]

Most of the larger ccs dipped after 2042 after their sponsored videos of the game

[feral garden]

Jack is the only one I watched from BF3/4 days that is still really succesful

[runic crest]

I cant blame them tbh

[tepid plinth]

It’s rough but was necessary

At least they find warzone and stuff fun instead of just quitting altogether

[runic crest]

It’s sad to see how games that are children of Battlefield are becoming more popular than BF itself. I mean, look at Squad—it’s the successor of Project Reality, which is a mod for Battlefield 2. Hell Let Loose is the same, and Reforger is a sandbox that has lots of Battlefield players already in it. They’re all milsim but share the same roots (besides Reforger).

[digital niche]

Yeah I plan to move to Reforger as well. Looks fun.

But really, I'm not surprised. I come from the Doom 2 / Quake 1 dial-up multiplayer era and those games spawned alot of children.

[runic crest]

As an Arma player, it’s chill as hell and easier to learn than Arma 3

[runic crest]

Tell me about it. Now, FPS as a genre is in a tight spot, and I refuse to take COD seriously as a game—it’s no longer a game at this point lol

became a store front.

[tepid plinth]

Meanwhile I’m just waiting for another quake like game

[digital niche]

That sentiment can also kinda apply to counter strike as well IMO. But that's debatable.

[runic crest]

After CS:GO, I just didn’t touch the game. Maybe I’ll play with my buddy on Faceit, but you just can't play normally because of cheaters.

[digital niche]

True

[indigo pebble]

im waiting for a planetside 2 like game

[digital niche]

Speak of the devil

It's Jack dropping a new video about

[glad trench]

This is just cope. BF is still massively more popular than all of them

[oak condor]

smed is working on something new i guess

having watched ps2 trip over its own design and die, i'm not really thrilled about seeing another one

https://x.com/j_smedley/status/1905020633177784563

god higby looks rough these days

https://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/1jkqkv1/john_smedley_is_developing_an_mmo_fps_see_comment/mjxegoz/

[verbal crypt]

Ngl from the newest footage I’ve seen there’s a lot that looks good but also a lot that personally looks terrible to me lol

Holy fuck there’s so much suppression and vignette screen shake nonsense.

I fear some movelets are heavily influencing a lot of aspects lol. The movement looks like it got a big nerf. Super heavy and slow looking imo

[weak obsidian]

the suppression looks fine?

looks the same as 4 and 1 to me

[feral garden]

Funny that what they (Seem to have) changed was animation speed, and the people who laughed at everyone saying it looked fast because of animation speed, are now saying it looks too slow. 😄

[weak obsidian]

I've heard they nerfed bhopping as well

[tepid plinth]

bear in mind the videos are smudged, low resolution probably with anti aliasing turned up with motion blur on also

but again stuff like this I don't feel I can criticise at this point

[covert nest]

THIS COMMUNITY JSUT DOESNT THINK

Calling something "cod" has become like calling something "woke" like holy shit it just destroys your thought process and makes you actually incapable of critical thought. Something we were as humans built for.

[tall urchin]

Brave of you to assume the average thumb twiddler is capable of thought

[covert nest]

I never once specified console players. This applies to everyone generally.

[tall urchin]

Arm chair milsim boomers are just as bad, agreed. Just a lot fewer of them. I fear not a vocal minority, but a majority of fools.

[covert nest]

I do agree with the fact that certain platforms have certain demographics but however I feel like it just melds together anyways so it doesn't matter.

[tall urchin]

Just the way society has gone unfortunately. Talent, humility and dedication is frowned upon while ignorance and ego is praised. Long and meticulously designed products are shunned while formulaic and free of substance effortless drivel is demanded.

[faint pivot]

New gameplay looks fire, they’re going in the right direction, they took away tac sprint and the other gimmick features it seems thank god, they just need to remove the grenade wind trails and put the kill notification how it was in 3 or 4 simple and satisfying maybe give the guns a bit more recoil

[weak obsidian]

the grenade throwing seems way too fast rn

[tepid plinth]

You don’t like the wind trails?

First I’ve heard anyone not like it in all honesty

I think it’s neat

[mossy marten]

let's be honest, giving more recoil is gonna make 90% of players not play it

i see so many comments on BF related videos saying, "Where's the recoil? Haxor?"

like

[weak obsidian]

it looks kinda goofy ngl

[tepid plinth]

Interesting

Never heard anybody mention them before

To me it makes them feel a little more powerful, bit more weighty, like it’s a lit fuse smoking

[weak obsidian]

I remember the Ready or Not community had a fit over them before the game released

they're neat for games that have a more stylised presentation but for something more realistic like Battlefield they look out of place imo

[tepid plinth]

Did you not like them in 4 either?

[ruby merlin]

Are you talking about console players

[mossy marten]

grenade wind trails are such a nothing burger thing to be dissatisfied with 🤷‍♂️

[ruby merlin]

Recoil looks simular to 4

[tepid plinth]

Well it’s fine to not like something, I just found it interesting that someone didn’t like them

[mossy marten]

i think it's just something super insignificant to be dissatisfied with that's all 🤷‍♂️
like, gunplay and movement not being bf1 style is the main thing for me rn

[minor linden]

bf1's movement was good for it's theme, but imo the way it's currently looking is better for a modern theme

[glad trench]

People say they removed bhoping but one of the leaks starts off with the guy jumping over some shit and immediately dropping someone lol

[weak obsidian]

yeah not really lol

[glad trench]

Like straight beams him

[tall urchin]

Just the average consumer in general less platform

[ruby merlin]

You basically said "Brave of you to assume the average console player is capable of thought".

Let's not bring console/system wars in here as its kinda cringe

[tall urchin]

Lots of PC users also use controller

[weak obsidian]

tbf he didn't do consecutive jumps

it was like a normal jump peek

[oak condor]

actually we should, a lot of the loud boomer-esque takes come from a highly insulated console population that doesn't know what was capable in bf4 and previous games in terms of movement

[tall urchin]

A lot of them are PC too, to be fair. Lots of 50 year old armchair milsim boomers and casual roller PC users.

[oak condor]

the average pc player had a lot higher chance of running into a cracked player or seeing something on youtube etc.

[tall urchin]

Even in a game like Apex it had a very vocal number of casual players so opposed to movement and skill gaps

[oak condor]

i suspect the controller-on-pc people are a relatively new thing due to apex and cod aim assist

and the last two gens of consoles being mediocre generally

[tall urchin]

That and a lot of people who started on old gen consoles and switched to PC

Just never learned M&K

[weak obsidian]

force gyro aim on controller #yup

[mossy marten]

that would be neat

[oak condor]

xbox rollers still don't have gyro

[mossy marten]

shame xbox is lagging behind with that

[weak obsidian]

oh yeah

forgot about that lmao

[oak condor]

there are other options for roller aim that give you more control like flick stick, but good luck getting anyone to learn

[mossy marten]

gotta remember xbox is more worried about being a publisher than improving their console tech

[minor linden]

Yeah. It's significantly easier to use movement mechanics on PC than on Console

That's actually one of the reasons why I think cross platform was a mistake. The two control types play completely differently which means someone is always getting screwed over no matter what the game developer does

[tall urchin]

Depends on the game, lurching was actually easier on controller than M&K for Apex

And most games don't have insane frame timing on execution of movement mechanics outside of supergliding.

It's just more often PC players actually care to learn a game and will utilize skill expressions.

[minor linden]

That's fair. Console is inherently more casual since it's cheaper to get a decent console than a decent pc

[covert nest]

Thought I said that earlier but yeah thanks to the price point of consoles it's way easier to get into them.

And gaming as a whole.

[tall urchin]

Yeah, you just plug and play and off you go. Plus it has a lot of security measures that creates a significant barrier for cheating.

[covert nest]

Ironically too cronus isn't even that good.

I bring it up because it's the only way to viably cheat but it doesn't help you.

[tall urchin]

At least conventional cheating. Input based cheats, emulation, and things like stacking still exist in large numbers.

[covert nest]

Oh like xim.

Yeah i heard that's quite fucky too

[mossy marten]

that plus the overlay cheats that have been seen around recently

[tall urchin]

Yeah, XIM is far worse because you gain the precision of M&K but retain AA because it's just emulating the input.

[covert nest]

To be honest for all the cheaters I've come across on console only one person that I say was close enough on that spectrum to be a problem. Fortunately.

Aim assist fucks Kbm and even if you have it all off its still there. Additionally there's a weird delay to the inputs but that's because it's emulation.

[weak obsidian]

the option to turn off crossplay is the best way to handle it

honestly that might be the reason why the server browser is goneburgers

[mossy marten]

nah, server browser was deleted cuz it's a legacy feature now, just like the normal scoreboard was on 2042 launch

jk

but it's another "casual-ification" of games imho

[weak obsidian]

console moment in this situation imo

[mossy marten]

the server browser button has been shrinking since bf1, so i doubt it's cuz of consoles only

BFV the server browser was renamed and put under 3 menu options 🤦‍♂️

[covert nest]

I hope they use portal as an alternative to the browser and push it that way.

[mossy marten]

agreed
i hope they butcher the dmg modifiers and that stuff to prevent dumb server options

[minor linden]

I would agree, but it makes it 10x harder to find a match. Imo crossplay should be off by default with an option to turn it on. This'd make it both easier to find servers with crossplay off and preserve the main good thing with crossplay: the ability to play with your friends

If player count on crossplay servers causes an issue, then crossplay servers could be merged with PC servers

[weak obsidian]

yeah that would be ideal

[ruby merlin]

Its not only console though

[oak condor]

i didn't say it was only console, there are people who have been sitting in "hardcore" pc bf4 servers for a decade straight and they're just as weird

there are a lot less of those people though

[nimble bridge]

They should invite Focus, Enders or Baranox 99% of the BF players didn't even knew 2042's recoil was bugged before Baranox told it to DICE

[tall urchin]

Which they reimplemented with the visual recoil added later

[weak obsidian]

tbf most people were complaining about the gunplay so that's why they added it back

[tall urchin]

Visual recoil is the worst way to approach gunplay

[weak obsidian]

the AK visual recoil from old cod games 💀

it's the easiest way to make gunplay look "good" in arcadey shooters

[verbal crypt]

Dude FACTS visual recoil that doesn’t tie to screen center is cancer in fps games. Normies will say it’s “immersion” tho lol

[mossy marten]

Sure
But the message will get deleted

[jaunty jetty]

okay