#battlefield-6

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tidal meadow
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Secure Boot in inevitable on the long run

hallow geode
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This is active playtesting that they were invited to. Do you not want the game to be rigorously play-tested before launch to ensure the best possible experience?

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"Just wait bro, the game will magically playtest itself before launch" 🤣

vale wadi
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And all the leaked gameplay since march or April has been awesome. They knew what they were doing to generate hype

dreamy depot
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Black ops 7 is going to require secure boot, too, so if he wants to play fps games this fall he'll need to sort that out or buy a console.

hallow geode
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All of this, the labs playtesting, the reveal event where they gave early access to the beta through watching gameplay, the trailers, the communcation amongst the dev team. It's all culminated into maybe dare i say it the best marketing campaign for a Battlefield game to date.

pastel sigil
dreamy depot
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That sucks, no firmware updates available? I had to update my Gigabyte bios to enable secure boot

pastel sigil
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Maybe by now they released some updates for his mobo, idk. He didn't have another try since the open beta. Back then what he told me was he couldn't select secure boot or uefi. And when he finally managed after a following a guide he bricked his pc. Had to flash his bios to make it work again

sudden prism
pastel sigil
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I wasnt there to watch what he did so can't say for sure

dreamy depot
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That's brutal, the nightmare of PC gaming right there

pastel sigil
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Yeah so he lost all interest for bf6 basicly because of that

lucid mist
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what gpu and cpu is he running

pastel sigil
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If i recall it's a 3060 ti and amd 5600x, but don't think that's the issue. The whole secure boot thing was

lucid mist
dreamy depot
pastel sigil
lucid mist
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I thought mine didn't support it until I enabled some crap in my bios and it worked fine.

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this was when I was trying to install windows 11 on my 10+ year old PC

pastel sigil
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I think it was also that he needed to change his harddisk file to another type. I forgot the name

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Combination of those 2 issues

lucid mist
pastel sigil
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Ssd yeah

lucid mist
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dude you cannot be serious

tidal meadow
lucid mist
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nightmare pc build right there holy shitballs

pastel sigil
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So it was the gigabyte mobo not wanting to enable secure boot and that file type

tidal meadow
# pastel sigil Yeha that was it

He pretty much installed his windows with the equivalent of Windows 95 options. VERY OLD Legacy stuff. It can be converted, but it requires more steps.

pastel sigil
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Yeah i dont think he wants to go through all that effort for playing a game tbhšŸ˜‚ He said ill just get a new pc or upgrades in a year or so

pastel sigil
tidal meadow
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Windows XP, supported GPT disks, Windows XP came out in 2001...

lucid mist
pastel sigil
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He didnt install anything regarding windows, it was the shop

tidal meadow
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well the shop did it wrong (whenever it did it)

pastel sigil
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Guess I'll have to wait for him to get a new one lol, and not at that shopšŸ˜‚

tidal meadow
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he doesn't really need a new one, all that can be converted, but he needs to do more steps

burnt copper
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A shop would have to actively changes settings for secure boot to be disabled in a modern pc.

pastel sigil
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Need to know precisly how. He knows some pc stuff, just no expert

civic herald
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I had to update my motherboard to stop crashing in bf6

civic herald
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My brother said it could destroy my motherboard if my pc turn off during updates

tidal meadow
lucid mist
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motherboards gonna burst into flames during the windows update lmfao

pastel sigil
dreamy depot
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the magic smoke might get out

burnt copper
civic herald
eternal nexus
lucid mist
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what is a motherboard update

burnt copper
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bios

lucid mist
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never heard bios update been called that lol

civic herald
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Yuh bios update

tidal meadow
tidal meadow
pastel sigil
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Maybe he'll bring his pc go the a shop to let them fix it. Think that's the cheapest option for him

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If he's still willing to try lol

civic herald
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If my power goes out itll brick

burnt copper
tidal meadow
pastel sigil
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Im on 10 and for me it all works fine, no issues. But his is a nightmare

pastel sigil
tidal meadow
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only branded PCs had Secure Boot back then (by default)

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The problem with those mobos from 5+ years ago is that they had CSM enabled default back then, because it was the "most compatible" option and could boot in any mode. But CSM on, forces Secure Boot off.

And the Windows 10 installer will happily install itself with Legacy boot options. if the setup boots in legacy mode, and it will not even give you a hint about it.

pastel sigil
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That's some nice info. I guess i was lucky then with my mobo that it worked without issues. It's from like 2017 or so.
Can you add me Makaki?

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My bro's build is a lot newer so I was surprised it went wrong with his pc

burnt copper
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Well I guess I'm going to install on my laptop in case moonlight doesn't work too good

eager sinew
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Im back

forest jewel
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what do you think of a setting option that lets you set the delay for HOLD actions on controller?

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the default delay is sometimes too long in these games.

maiden fog
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I need bf6 to drop now… cod is dry

dapper flax
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were really going to launch the game with no closed weapon playlists or the ability to disable open weapons? are the developers smoking crank?

maiden fog
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how many weapons will be at launch?

dapper flax
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If youre an engineer, your role is to blow up tanks and jets. Drop the sniper rifle, grab your rockets, and PTFO

velvet kayak
spare socket
dapper flax
velvet kayak
spare socket
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I would just class lock the sniper to recon tbh

velvet kayak
spare socket
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the rest idrc at all.

I don't wanna see an assault having a sniper, an m4a1, and a spawn beacon

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they literally moved the spawn beacon away from the recon so there's less degen sniper camping with it

dapper flax
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so if were locking recon then why not all of the classes and appease a wider audience? oh right because then the cod boys cry

velvet kayak
dapper flax
spare socket
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this place is literally an echo chamber and you want the game to financially do well

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I prefer closed weapons myself but open (imo) will attract a much wider audience

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Just lock the sniper it's the only thing that breaks the sandbox when it's in open weapons

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The rest of the weapons being open don't really ruin the sandbox or are nearly as class defining as a long range one shot

velvet kayak
spare socket
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this is also true

dapper flax
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my argument from the beginning was open weapons makes no sense, because even in a closed enviroment you were able to run a DMR, a Carbine, or a Shotgun.

dapper flax
spare socket
spare socket
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the only weapons that really stand out in defining classes are
1: snipers
2:shotguns
3: lmgs (if suppression is strong)

dapper flax
spare socket
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I swap classes all the time based on what my team need lmao.

dapper flax
velvet kayak
dapper flax
spare socket
# dapper flax again, why would I switch my playstyle if I have no incentive to do so

the incentive to play engineer: a flipping tank or heli wants to murder you or you want to play vehicles

The incentive to play support: to revive, give ammo, heal, and set up positions

The incentive to play assault: lead pushes with spawn beacon, dual wield, stims, and some gadgets like the ladder

The incentive to play recon: UAV and info that helps you to pre fire engagements

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also the perks for these classes incentivize their playstyles heavily

dapper flax
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why would I play engineer when I can just play as a recon, spawn with an smg and c4 and do more than an engineer does in a single match

spare socket
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good tank players swap between first and third person a lot to get a 360 view

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whenever they load a shot they go into third person and will murder you immediately

dapper flax
spare socket
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The launchers and the motion sensor mine murder tanks

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Especially the motion sensor mine have you seen that thing? Shizz does like 40-50 damage alone

dapper flax
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either way I dont agree with open weapons, its going to ruin this game in the long run and its a shame to see

spare socket
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Also if you want to play vehicles yourself why would you play recon

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you want the engineer's repair tool.... and passives when you're in a vehicle

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(there's an engineer skill tree that gives stronger auto repair and other stuff while in a vehicle)

dapper flax
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brother in christ, my argument was why would I play as an engineer. go back and read it.

spare socket
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I just told you why ā˜ ļø

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you're for some reason ignoring it.

dapper flax
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youre just saying random shit at this point of course I am

spare socket
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If you want to engage vehicles in a far safer manner or if you want to play vehicles: run engineer

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why would you run any other class? Trying to c-4 a tank is the most dangerous method of engaging a vehicle

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It has the most potential of profit with small effort sure but if you get caught you're flipping dead

dapper flax
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k, anything else to add?

spare socket
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I feel like you aren't even reading what I'm saying

dapper flax
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I wasnt

spare socket
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ā˜ ļø I noticed.

dapper flax
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I told you I wasnt going to either, yet you still did

spare socket
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idk man I generally enter a discord to have a discussion. Not ramble and not listen to anyone else

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but you do you ig.

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I'm gonna go back to studying for this 6 hour exam

forest monolith
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I AM STILL NOT PREORDERING/BUYING UNTIL I SEE THE UCAV OR THE MORTAR IS REMOVED.

tight prism
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EA doesn’t listen to their community what a disgrace

Open Class System, more like CoD 6 than Battlefield 6

Ain’t buying this shitty game

Goodbye EA🤔

thick storm
brazen pumice
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is there any way to fast track acceptance in to BF Labs?

spare socket
sour pelican
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aint that option? either play server with closed class or open class, it simple button click?

dark owl
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I'm not really too worried bout the open/closed class system btw

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with good map design and well balanced weapons, it should be fine even if the open class system is the default option and available in most game modes

slate crystal
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I got timeout for 3 days and I don’t know why

willow lance
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They should pick a lane(open weapons) and give other option in portal

slate crystal
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What did I do wrong?

willow lance
slate crystal
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Bruh

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Then I’ll just not talk in here as much

dark owl
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but I'll be honest, I like the idea of playing support and using ARs

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that was may way to go at the beta

willow lance
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Open weapons is more balanced

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People won’t choose weapons, they will choose classes

dark owl
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I mean, there are pretty relevant perks if you use the "prefered" weapon type in the class you're playing

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in lots of cases the advantage is clear

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reduced sprint out time, no movement penalty for LMGs when using with support class

frosty marten
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Is the Phantom edition the only way to get the season pass? can't find any details on the price to add the season pass to say the standard edition of the game

loud saddle
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well, said thoughts were about the game being buggy and being potentially straight up bad, performance issues are the main complaint i have seen, although from what i heard the game isnt bad

dark owl
plucky dawn
willow lance
dark owl
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there are pretty relevant attachments that consume just enough to lock you from using another one that's similarlly relevant

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mostly grips and barrels

willow lance
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Yeah

dark owl
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but I hope they nerf the grips a lil bit

willow lance
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Grips are mostly useless tbh because they increase your spread

dark owl
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I was laser beaming ppl with M4 and the ACR AR I don't remember the name

willow lance
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Recoil reduction didn't seem to worth it imo, I almost never used grips, mostly used compensators and extended mags

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Some weapons with no spread such as AK205 may get the benefits of grips but it's a laser beam by default so grips are still worthless imo

dark owl
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fair point

slow horizon
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eu vc bf6 squad 1 for bf2042

finite pasture
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the battleroyal is in 11h rigth?

spare socket
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The compensator makes its recoil pattern ideal for tap firing long distance and it goes directly up making control super easy at cqc

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the accuracy grip makes you not have to worry about bloom nearly as much and you can burst/long hold in some mid to longer ranges

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m4a1 I barely used. It's definetly the overall best gun of the beta but imo the NVO (Ace) and the kts100 (ultimax) if you got their playstyles were kinda nutty

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the kts100 with the headshot attachment could do 50 damage per headshot for the first like 20 ish meters? Maybe a bit more I forget.
40 at range

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it straight up could outgun dmrs and some sniper users with how accurate and lacking in recoil it was at the longest of distances

bronze grail
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The humble rangefinder:

stable remnant
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correct.

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just change it into a woodlands camo. keep the color

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They are. So suggest fixes rather than crying about something youre not going to change

civic scarab
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I don’t really get why monster is so persistent. With cod and now battlefield having their own skins it’s just odd why no other drinking companies try to get advertised or potentially challenge.

maiden fog
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How come battlefield doesn’t have tac sprint like cod, imma break my controller pressing the left analog stick every single time 😭

hardy egret
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personally i found the open weapons to be kinda annoying and took away from the overall class identity in some ways. wasn't alot of recons using snipers... Most of the ones i ran into were medics using snipers. And most recons were running assault rifles and playing more akin to a forward spawn for their team...

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engineer was doing engineer things most of the time... Because most of them played inside vehicles XD and Assault... Well... they kinda just did a bit of everything which was crazy as they often swapped between snipers and shotguns or assault weapons... even saw a few running double LMG

tame mortar
meager kayak
proper rune
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Bf6 should be like realistic warfare in real time places.

tame mortar
proper rune
tame mortar
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I would like to see more variety in battlefield 6 maps tbh, but it might be too controversial

proper rune
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Pick a place that's not at war.

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They did it in bf1

tame mortar
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Thats what they are doing right now, but they need to try and step outside of their comfort zone a bit

proper rune
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Just saying

tame mortar
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I'm still surprised they dont release eastern european maps in battlefield as an infantry map or something

proper rune
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Its a game

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Its not real

tame mortar
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I know. I dont want battlefield to have realistic mechanics or gunplay, I just want a more variety in maps

outer fog
proper rune
outer fog
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yes

proper rune
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Indeed

outer fog
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quite

tame mortar
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I'm confused

proper rune
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Exactly

outer fog
proper rune
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Exactly

brittle current
tame mortar
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So what did you mean by realistic warfare

proper rune
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Dont be stupid

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Its a game experience.

tame mortar
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Its a game like you said, but you want the game to have realistic warfare in real time places? What?

proper rune
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Your totally missing the point

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Re read said conversation

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Then conclude

modern needle
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How does one get access to labs?

tame mortar
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So, what do you want out of battlefield 6 then? Because if it's a realistic experience, then that's not the right game

proper rune
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Not really I like lots of games

tame mortar
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Realistic mechanics/gameplay or realistic aesthetic/maps

proper rune
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Or wish

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Both

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It is called battlefield for a reason

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Or as i lovingly call it beef

kind snow
hexed moth
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Battlefield is a game. It’s nothing like RL. I was in active duty for yrs. believe me, a lot wouldn’t last a second. I’m not the best at gaming, but exemplary in the military. If you really want it RL - Get only one life a game. I love the game aspect of it.

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I like it being close. But to actually crap yourself under fire. You would never do a running slide 🤣

brittle current
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I do wish there was no slide at all lol

stable marten
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ive gotten selected for labs for the pre-alpha. Do I get access to this play test happening now?

torn lagoon
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ewwww why are they doing a battle royale mode gross

brittle current
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And to Seratonins point it's not meant to be full on realistic - I think for that you'd need something more like Arma Reforger or Squad

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but I'm still so excited for this game.

hexed moth
hexed moth
kind snow
brittle current
kind snow
proper rune
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Service is very admirable.
And if I had to i would.

brittle current
kind snow
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If you dont like sliding just dont use it

brittle current
hexed moth
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🤣. First time I saw someone slide past me it was like ā€œJesus Christ, it’s Jason Bourneā€ funny as.

kind snow
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And it was very short in the beta and in labs currently

brittle current
proper rune
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Never forget.

kind snow
tame mortar
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Only the older battlefield games like battlefield 2 was more leaning towards squad/arma type of realism

brittle current
kind snow
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Either way its not like sliding does anything bad anyway lol still just as easy to track there head and kill them or just use a grenade

brittle current
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totally agree though

kind snow
proper rune
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Karlos ttv

tame mortar
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I dont mind that type of movement either tbh

brittle current
kind snow
brittle current
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apex exists

tame mortar
kind snow
kind snow
brittle current
proper rune
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Slip,Slip sliding away

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Let's a go

tame mortar
kind snow
tame mortar
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Casual players will not be able to counter someone momentum jumping around corners

brittle current
tame mortar
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And its even easier to do with sliding

kind snow
tame mortar
brittle current
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also where are y'alls bf helmets? bunch of recruits out here lol

tame mortar
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But like you said if you jump to the side you can slightly avoid this if you know the player will do this, only like 1% of players know this tho

kind snow
tame mortar
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You can always hear someone sliding, but they won't know where to put their mouse, or where the person will end up

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Its usually veryyy far right of the screen

kind snow
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Dont need to know where they will end up, aslong as you know they are sliding you can just aim to the floor and shoot with a good gun they die in under 3-4 shots

tame mortar
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I dont think you know what type of movement im explaining, im probably just explaining it wrong tho lol

zinc shadow
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So uhm, I know this isn't the right place to talk but do anyone has a solution to EA launcher being super blurry?

kind snow
tame mortar
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Im talking about sprinting, slide and then you jump with the momentum you gain you get a few extra hops which makes you end up very far right of the players screen

kind snow
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Yes i know

tame mortar
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No casual player is predicting this

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The usual player that plays this game will expect the enemy to slide around the corner, not jump 500 yards to the right across their screen

kind snow
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Sure at the start but after awhile of getting used to the game even casuals should be fine against it as more people start doing it

tame mortar
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Yeah true, I've been doing this mechanic in 2042 and im yet to die to someone lol

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But 2042 has more lenient mechanics compared to bf6

kind snow
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Most of the people playing 2042 are just new players trying to grind battle pass

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Its easy to get over 130 kills per game now

tame mortar
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Then again, you probably won't be able to bunny hop like i explained in the full game, they did say they nerfed the movement

kind snow
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Works fine in labs still

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Just a tad bit slower

tame mortar
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Oh fair enough then, I would love to try it but you know, battlefield not sending emails

hexed moth
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How’s the lab tests going guys? Have they ironed out things? Better?

kind snow
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Its funny though you can have a team mate put c4 on the front of your car then ram someone and blow them up without dying or taking damage

strong echo
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Thoughts on conquest large?

hexed moth
forest monolith
sand spear
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How’s everyone’s day going

hexed moth
sand spear
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Can’t you just preorder a day before launch and play for two hours then refund if you don’t like it(steams policy)

kind snow
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When you preorder doesnt matter

sand spear
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Oh

strong echo
hexed moth
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I’m gonna keep my order. Got the phantom one. I need something, getting bored of hogwarts 🤣. Im confident they will sort on the testing.

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I had a blast on the beta. Even with glitches.

strong echo
hexed moth
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I even got a new elite controller and headphones for the occasion. Don’t let me down BF. šŸ˜‚

strong echo
kind snow
kind snow
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Even if the game is bad who cares ? Its only 100$

hexed moth
sand spear
kind snow
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I buy cod every year just for the story mode price is so cheap that it doesnt matter

tight prism
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Yeah right. This game lacks something..this game lacks..nicki minaj

hexed moth
deft zephyr
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I've heard that the Sovereign Soldier skin is for NATO support

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I expected it to be for assault

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If it's really for support, it's kinda disappointing imo

solid heart
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makes you feel any better i have the lab builds, but all it is is just not great specially the br ......idc what people say about it. defending it like white knights or kids trying to play it lowball saying its for income when really they are the kids whining about not having a br game. when they played many others and think they need to force the ideology of battle royal being master race like dumb kids on fortnite lol.

kind snow
solid heart
placid hare
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Battle Royal is trash

kind snow
solid heart
# kind snow They have multiple teams that do nothing while waiting for new stuff it wont was...

so i am tired of your multiple teams excuse because all it is saying is you want it regardless of what people are saying ......lol and on top of that even if its in labs its in the project of being in a portal game mode.......which we will be forced to download and waste memory for future content that is way better than your stupid battle royal god you so worship. lol idk why you gusy say its a sub teams when its in the project line of being official. you experimenting a game mode no one wants ? so we beating a dead horse and wasting time and money on something we shouldn't ?

kind snow
solid heart
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if its in labs its wasting testing and time when we could be testing the base foundation of maps , weapon tweaks , new concept projects and more !!! lol like why yall defending it .....this is like that reforger is a project more than a game even though you spent 70 on a full game ? like take your mentality check on whats actually good and what doesn't work ...if you played previous bf games you should know better than to say crap like that

kind snow
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100$ is less then 4 hours of work i could care less, either way there is nearly 30 days until the game comes out with testing stopping 5 days before they have plenty of time to test everything

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Also dont forget they also have a internal QA team

solid heart
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yeah well their internal qa team ain't listening it seems like when twitter and everyone else on here is not liking the br game mode anyways yet again and telling them to stop beating a dead horse that no one wants in the first place

tight prism
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Internal QA teams are usually good people with terrible leadership though, as an aside. Community testing is only remotely better depending on the company.

Battle Royale is what EA is banking on for their 100 million players goal. That is their metric of success for the title. Delivering a successful Battlefield to appease the burnt fans and revitalize, while pushing the BR to bring player numbers that they are requiring internally.

kind snow
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Internal qa team job isnt to listen to other people what are you talking about

tight prism
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There definitely are people who want a BR, just not a lot of them are here.

solid heart
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so what you are telling me they will most likely add it and it will be forgotten again just like hazard zone and firestorm yet again

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ahhhh we wasting money because people don't know how to listen properly and cross reference what works and what doesn't .....ah yes lets be a CEO that forgets the core reason why battlefield was successful in the first place. dumb people be dumb and fired for a reason

kind snow
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CEO's normally dont play games and most of the time they also dont pick what to add to the game either, anyway its there money why do you care ? Just dont play it

solid heart
kind snow
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Read the second word

hidden compass
solid heart
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then just say EA ceo doesn't because he is a idiot lol just leave it at that

kind snow
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Ceo of taketwo said he didnt play games does that make him a idiot aswell

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Its the game director that makes most of the changes not the ceo

sudden prism
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EA is smart to finally listen and put in what we wanted in the first place but its still not perfect

solid heart
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being honest yes lol most games die when people lose out the passion of making good games .....i mean COD is a good example and the fact them merging with blizzard and how they ruined overwatch def say everything about almost all major gaming companies that try so portray. "they care about their users" but never listen

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a.k.a activision and blizzard

olive basalt
kind snow
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10 million will be alt accounts anyway

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4 of my accounts now own the phantom edition

solid heart
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you mean 10 mill will be alt accounts from EA team to inflate their numbers.

kind snow
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Would probably be from dice not ea if that did happen but either way they wouldn't even need accounts as they could just fake the number

solid heart
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how much you wanna bet the company will give out those free copies so that way they can inflate the player count...... lol imma just wait for jackfrags video drop for the br mode and i bet it will be horrible like always lol

solid heart
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watch em it will happen

kind snow
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So give away copies for no reason ?

solid heart
kind snow
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They would just put the game on sale either way ps5 and xbox numbers cant be tracked so once again they could easily just lie ..

icy rock
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When is BR (that no one asked for) playtest?

solid heart
kind snow
cunning wedge
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this is why the internet is slowly turning AGAINST bf6 and in favor of bo7 again

sharp sigil
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Cant wait to see all the br leaksCursedCat

kind snow
cunning wedge
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oh im not surprised

solid heart
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i always imagine that its like a ukraine war against russia where they bomb people with civs in the area because they taunt the enemy to say "you wouldn't"

sharp sigil
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Even if there wasnt a br people would find something to hate

solid heart
cunning wedge
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yknow what, maybe i should pre order black ops 7

kind snow
cunning wedge
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jesus okay i guess

rough olive
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BR sucks

civic scarab
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You should also be aware of any EA email talking about play tests and NDA agreements.
What you should do it forward it to me and I’ll thoroughly investigate if it’s legit. Gotta keep the community safe and stuff BlobFingerGuns

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Should also send codes for anything steam related as well because that could be potentially harmful. TO ADD TO MY INVESTIGATION

balmy void
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Really?

tight prism
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That was a weird set of shadow deletions.

tight prism
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I wonder if it was by I am still here, or someone else.

balmy void
tight prism
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I meant my reply to it, it is gone too.

balmy void
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True

tight prism
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I would say because it mentioned their company and the word domain, but even for the shadows that would be quite silly.

balmy void
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Possible, really interested if the mail is fake or not tho, so hopefully i will get an answer from disciple

tight prism
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The domain is real and you can always login to your playtesting profile yourself to do what it may have said.

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Instead of clicking through the email.

balmy void
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Yeah that's for sure, maybe i will have a look later, i just woke up and saw it šŸ˜‚

hardy egret
rough olive
candid tundra
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Boat goes binted

kind snow
errant fiber
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Easy; you don't.

chilly shore
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I saw the leaked skin, if they're gonna advertise it might as well make the camo look like it fits in the terrain

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also maybe add the Monster logo as a flag patch

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if that's what they're going for

kind snow
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Cool

chilly shore
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The collab skin could use some serious overhaul

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turn it into a digital camo with some of the green and black on it

solid heart
#

yikes man morewisdxm just dropped a compile video of the streamers ruining bf6 with br bois and its a nightmare .....people are even saying its bad like i thought it was lol ......get that crap out of there. they even have recent clips of streamers already hating it even when they whine and begged for it lmaooooooo

thorn trail
chilly shore
#

honestly, I don't mind the leaked skin, atleast it's not niki minaj but it could use some seriously overhaul, the skinis basically announcing to everyone that "Hey assholes shoot me"

solid heart
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honestly looking at the skins its pretty decent for what it was i mean i rather have soldiers looking like soldiers and not some crazy looking skin ruining the immersion for the game.

chilly shore
errant fiber
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Imo it's better to draw the line early than let them push the envelope with regard to skins.

chilly shore
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maybe insperation from digital or maybe flectarn camo

solid heart
#

honestly i can agree having camo variations and different adaptations of the gear would be cool i def agree

chilly shore
solid heart
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its already been confirmed we are going to get br months after launch its being cemented even when vast majority is saying no to it

chilly shore
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do you think we'll get the skin by buying a monster energy drink with the code on it?

solid heart
#

honestly i think so or mnt dew promotion one of the two

chilly shore
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I love drinking MTN dew

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glad my country used sugar to make MTN dew

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What's next? Guacamole Gamer Fart 9000 use code badger at checkout Camo?

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I can imagine the skin looking like someone from the Jungle

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actually, it might fit

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but I could be wrong

kind snow
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Why do people care what other people have on anyway ? Its just a skin

errant fiber
chilly shore
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it starts out something small till it eventually goes out of control

kind snow
chilly shore
#

and that's exactly what happened with COD

errant fiber
fallow bridge
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bum bum bum bum bum bum

chilly shore
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people come to BF6 to get away from COD's extreme out of place skins

fallow bridge
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bf game with movement like battlebit would be decent tbh

kind snow
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So just play battlebit

errant fiber
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As I keep saying; I'd rather draw the line too early than too late.

fallow bridge
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And gadgets, and vehicles

chilly shore
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I wanna see wood armour for APC

fallow bridge
#

Noob

granite obsidian
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Battlebit was the most fun I've had in a BF game

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so many friends were playing it on Steam, it was great

chilly shore
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Wood armour's entire purpose is to take the first hit preserving the main armour for a good while

errant fiber
chilly shore
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especially for their APC and LAV

errant fiber
chilly shore
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true

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maybe you want to avoid taking extra damage from RPGs

errant fiber
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Depending on aspect, shaped charge projectiles could probably be mildly inconvenienced by it.

chilly shore
errant fiber
#

Yep.

chilly shore
robust ore
#

I want to say only one thing: DU DU DU DUDUDUN -28!

chilly shore
robust ore
#

AHAHAH but Max is dududu max Verstappen, our is DU DU DU DUDUN! our is slower and deep, the one from Max is faster and high tone!

knotty grotto
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Its max, ITS MAAAAX

rough olive
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I hope they have animated lava skins on the guns

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I want the game to look like apex legends

chilly shore
rough olive
robust ore
#

Maybe we should invite him to play BF6 as well !

chilly shore
knotty grotto
#

Jsmith wants BATTLEROYALE

chilly shore
rough olive
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Well if I can’t have lava skins I at least want LGBT charms for pride month

knotty grotto
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This is bf, go to cod for that

rough olive
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Nah cod is too realistic

knotty grotto
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Alr buddy

rough olive
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I’m not your buddy

chilly shore
chilly shore
knotty grotto
#

I know, cod realistic is enough bait

chilly shore
#

blueberry here just made his account today

knotty grotto
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Lol

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But ye i remember snoop fighting on the beach of Normandy with his anime m1 garand and nikki tbaging the dead soldiersCursedCat

chilly shore
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welcome John Smith, ima go drink milkshake

knotty grotto
chilly shore
knotty grotto
#

Ayyy

topaz valley
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hello guys

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have you received emails yet ? ! šŸ˜„

knotty grotto
#

Now you have

chilly shore
topaz valley
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oooooooooh ! thanks !

cloud nacelle
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šŸ¤ŸšŸ»šŸ˜Ž

willow lance
lyric rose
#

Phantom Ops Easter egg please šŸ™

granite obsidian
#

will help you with a clip heavy playstyle that makes you look like an aimbot user

granite obsidian
# chilly shore looks sus

the more you practice your aim and a playstyle like this (flank heavy multikill style), you'll realize that it's very possible

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Viscose is one of the best mouse aimers in the world at target switching scenarios in aim trainers

lusty tree
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Mornin

chilly shore
reef bolt
hexed moth
lusty tree
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Sorry but I'm on controller leo

hexed moth
lusty tree
#

You're wrong that pc has an advantage

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Consoles will always have the best advantage and is....

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Casuals

granite obsidian
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Controllers with aim assist have advantages depending on the amouont of assist the devs give them

kind snow
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Controllers also have way less recoil then pc

lusty tree
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And we have casuals best advantage

kind snow
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Funny enough if you have a controller connected while playing you get less recoil and aim assist leo

hexed moth
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I dunno. Was far easier with multiple keys on pc.

granite obsidian
kind snow
quasi breach
granite obsidian
solid heart
# kind snow But it makes them easier to see does it not ?

you must be blind as a bat if you can't tell when someone is in camo or not i guess thats why you play COD. lol maybe shut that mouth about knowing whats good for the game like a typical idiot only clout chasing stupid streamer games

kind snow
hexed moth
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Oh. I can plug a mouse into a console. Hmm would this give me a mouse and aim assist?

kind snow
solid heart
quasi breach
kind snow
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Holy grammar

knotty grotto
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Is this another pc vs console debate?

quasi breach
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I think the aim assist is linked with the controller not the console

kind snow
lusty tree
knotty grotto
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O no aim assist pc vs controlleršŸ’€

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Im outleo

lusty tree
#

No mickael don't leave me here!!!!!

kind snow
knotty grotto
#

So fooling the system?

kind snow
#

i guess, it also gives you less recoil ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

solid heart
lusty tree
#

Goddam

knotty grotto
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Im to console to understand these issues

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I just play lolleo

kind snow
lusty tree
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Don't know

knotty grotto
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Never tried it, never will, i m to busy having fun

kind snow
#

Ill test if its still working in the upcoming labs test

solid heart
#

so i guess we are ok with people talking about explioting a game and then try to get away of the rules lol ironic as this is i can def say this chat needs to be purged to even mention exploitation to enhance your winning chances because you can't just get gud like the rest of us of or do research like the rest of the people.

kind snow
#

I have a 6.07 kd on my main account in 2042 i think im doing just fine, i was talking about it since i found it while testing controller recoil, either way its a glitch and the game isnt even out yet.

solid heart
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glitch = exploitation ? i think you are defining the word wrong . a glitch would be more like a texture not applying or rendering out right that causes to blanket the screen .....thats a glitch ......an expliot is what you explained earlier.

heady roost
#

Everybody who got 7th August invite gets a BR invitation?

frozen thorn
#

Im back from being banned. After 10,000 years I am finally free

solid heart
hexed moth
#

So if you can use a controller on all systems. Even pc. There’s not a problem? Personal choice?

kind snow
frozen thorn
#

I promise to never criticize EA every again

lusty tree
#

Hahahaha you talked about a map?

frozen thorn
#

I said BF6 should be $65 instead of $70

lusty tree
#

Hahahahah

solid heart
frozen thorn
kind snow
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Game isnt out yet so no one can abuse it in any mindful way, just like the glitch to get on top of roofs in the open beta was allowed to be talked about.

solid heart
kind snow
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Labs is a closed beta test, so no it isnt out.

frozen thorn
#

Person below me likes to play CoD

solid heart
# kind snow Labs is a closed beta test, so no it isnt out.

whats your definition of a game being out again ? when its official ? i mean thats a dumb way to look at it ? if its public and open to selected people would that be counted as open ? i mean by your defined thought process you think it isn't but if we can play it i would define that as open and in "TESTING"

kind snow
#

Good thing its closed and in beta test ...

solid heart
#

good thing its open then right ?

kind snow
#

**Closed **beta test

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Ad hominem attack šŸ˜„

hexed moth
#

So it’s open, but not open open šŸ˜

kind snow
#

Thanks ea_barry for helping !

frozen thorn
hexed moth
frozen thorn
#

I saw the countries for NATO and Pax Armata and they go as followed

NATO starring America, the UK, with special guest star Egypt!
Pax Armata featuring definitely not Russia, we promise its not Russia, and finally huh oh yeah this one actually isnt Russia.

hexed moth
#

I just can’t wait until the 10th. I’m not good enough to even advise on a beta test. I don’t last long enough. Just as long as most things are ironed out I’ve read about before release. All good.

rough olive
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I’m glad they nerfed movement

velvet kayak
kind snow
rough olive
kind snow
#

I could do the same things i could in the open beta

kind snow
rough olive
#

Nah it makes the game sucky and unrealistic

velvet kayak
kind snow
#

Not that big of a deal, almost no one did it in the beta

rough olive
native raft
#

Battlefield isn't about realism

hexed moth
#

Maybe they will pick this up on beta testing and tweak more. Have you the opportunity to text them things on beta.

velvet kayak
rough olive
rough olive
long bolt
#

at least its not cod šŸ˜›

rough olive
kind snow
kind snow
native raft
velvet kayak
native raft
#

It's a fantasy

rough olive
kind snow
rough olive
rough olive
velvet kayak
kind snow
rough olive
native raft
merry dove
rough olive
#

ā€œI want a feature in Battlefieldā€ ā€œwhy don’t you play other game which has that feature?ā€

kind snow
hexed moth
wraith canopy
rough olive
long bolt
#

"jump" is part of bf, whether you like it or not

rough olive
deep glade
rough olive
merry dove
kind snow
#

Ok so battle field 4 ?

rough olive
#

Battlefield has strayed far from its original vision and angered a lot of long time fans. I’m just telling you guys how they can return to their peak.

rough olive
long bolt
rough olive
kind snow
rough olive
rough olive
frozen thorn
kind snow
deep glade
#

I feel DICE is falsely marketing the PAC skin in BF6, from what I have seen it look nothing a like in game. They make it seem way cooler on the pre order picture. Not okay

kind snow
rough olive
merry dove
deep glade
#

Like on the pre order page he looked mogged as hell

long bolt
merry dove
rough olive
deep glade
#

Well no. It’s only on one class

kind snow
#

Either way its not a big deal, you can still do it in labs with little change and it doesnt effect game play much

merry dove
rough olive
# deep glade Well no. It’s only on one class

That’s dumb but yeah it looks like cosmetics will be class specific and nation specific. That means you’ll have to buy like 24 cosmetic sets just to look unique on every class on every map

rough olive
deep glade
#

Well I can’t tell you here what it’s like, cause it’s leaking then lol

wraith canopy
rough olive
wraith canopy
kind snow
merry dove
rough olive
#

Why do mods delete messages that aren’t even offensive? Overmoderation kills communities

kind snow
#

We can delete anything we like, its upto our discretion.

rough olive
kind snow
#

Sure.

ashen dome
rough olive
#

Anyone who doesn’t like the discussion doesn’t have to participate

ashen dome
#

I mean it looked to me like it was getting just a little close to becoming a mess of insults

wraith canopy
#

A discussion xD he just want to troll and insult people
A discussion🤣

#

However i'm out, good day

rough olive
zealous shore
#

Already guns drawn and the game ain't out šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

merry dove
#

People be out here getting way too heated about aim assist/movement/bf6br on the daily

tight prism
long bolt
#

aim assist belongs in single player and should stay there

zealous shore
#

People have opinions people should have opinions it's what makes conversation a thing

#

I wish br never happens

merry dove
rough olive
zealous shore
#

In the end of the day no-one wants the same stuff from the game anyways

#

We just all wish it's a good game

delicate kettle
#

Ку

rough olive
#

I hope battle royale games fail and stop getting made. It’s old and boring.

tight prism
frozen thorn
ashen dome
zealous shore
tight prism
merry dove
rough olive
hallow geode
#

Can someone please confirm if you had to sign up again to get a chance for this week's testing?

tight prism
#

So I just wanted to clarify our distance from the shadows here.

rough olive
tight prism
#

The LGBT+ and our allies.

sudden prism
#

do you think battlefield 6 will beat fortnite and marvel rivals?

ashen dome
hexed moth
long bolt
hallow geode
frozen thorn
sudden prism
tight prism
#

The comment I was replying to was nuked.

delicate kettle
#

what time can i play battle royal?

ashen dome
sudden prism
delicate kettle
#

what time can i play battle royal?

tight prism
# rough olive I think you’re baiting

But anyway, if you are not anti-Family I do apologize, I am just very used to that very specific rhetoric extending beyond just hatred for a political party, which that comment usually is directed at.

hallow geode
sudden prism
#

addd nuketown

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cod doesn't deserve it

hexed moth
delicate kettle
#

codes have not been given out to anyone yet?

frozen thorn
willow lance
rough olive
#

Closed weapons should be the only way to play. There shouldn’t even be an option

hexed moth
#

Hmmm. No email yet. Gas bill arrived though šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤£ ….

willow lance
rough olive
rough olive
hallow geode
#

where's the labs channel again?

rough olive
velvet kayak
hallow geode
#

discord is weird and keeps hiding channels. You know the labs channel that is public for everybody no matter if they got an invite or not. Where's that at?

rough olive
velvet kayak
rough olive
frozen thorn
merry dove
hexed moth
velvet kayak
stable remnant
rough olive
hallow geode
rough olive
hallow geode
#

i see "This is battlefield labs under blogs but that's not the same is it?

merry dove
rough olive
velvet kayak
rough olive
willow lance
frozen thorn
wise cloak
velvet kayak
rough olive
velvet kayak
#

I want people picking classes for the role (not to get the meta guns!)

rough olive
rough olive
frozen thorn
#

Person below me plays CoD

willow lance
kind snow
velvet kayak
rough olive
willow lance
rough olive
willow lance
worn marten
# rough olive Creative loadouts means supports with snipers and unlimited ammo. It’s dumb. Eac...

What about bf6 supports? Lmgs promote longer play, yet the medic part of their kit incentivises them to be close to the frontline, which smgs are all about. Do they not benefit from the option?

There is a perfectly valid point about offensive capability and balancing the gadgets and perks with said capability, where lmgs are given to them to let them know they aren’t meant to be infantry killers, but when considering engagement ranges and doing their job it seems like an smg would benefit them, potentially even more so than lmgs

rough olive
halcyon hedge
wise cloak
velvet kayak
rough olive
rough olive
willow lance
crude pine
#

Wait so weapons are gonna be class specific ?

rough olive
velvet kayak
halcyon hedge
#

At this point, this guy is just rage baiting

rough olive
wise cloak
kind snow
halcyon hedge
#

Ah okay, yeah šŸ˜„

frozen thorn
willow lance
# rough olive Nobody said it was.

And why shouldn't medics use SMGs when they are trying to revive people who are dying on the frontlines? If support was locked to LMGs there would be even less revives in the game

rough olive
velvet kayak
willow lance
frozen thorn
#

Medics use a shotgun, more effective

halcyon hedge
#

Do mods not exist here?

remote hatch
frozen thorn
wise cloak
rough olive
halcyon hedge
#

You are right, block exists šŸ™‚

rough olive
velvet kayak
long bolt
worn marten
# rough olive The support having the medical gear incentivizes them to be BEHIND the front li...

They are going to be placing supply boxes at their feet while fighting, which directly supports those doing the same thing, benefiting everyone else who is nearby when with lmgs those people would have to make a conscious retreat somewhat to where that support is set up to get said support. which inherently means the support doesn’t get as much use or value

When considering ranges, which is the main reason to lock weapons anyway, I see it as fairly logical

frozen thorn
#

Support should just use a shotgun

worn marten
rough olive
wise cloak
rough olive
worn marten
rough olive
#

Reviving is mainly for defensive purposes, not attacking.

frozen thorn
rough olive
stable remnant
rough olive
frozen thorn
frozen thorn
worn marten
rough olive
#

Or maybe you want a support with a sniper who can camp and have unlimited ammo šŸ˜‚

worn marten
#

If it means I get a bag placed next to me as I’m peeking a doorway in Cairo then yes

wise cloak
frozen thorn
rough olive
#

You guys are what caused Battlefield 2042. There is no saving this franchise

rough olive
willow lance
#

For supporting the team 🤯

wise cloak
worn marten
#

As mentioned before, medics in bf4 and v were easily the most prevelant and the ones I felt the most present, you’d get constant heals in 4 and v because of that proximity to the people who need it most due to the weapon, and it played perfectly

wise cloak
#

Use deployable cover to make enemies play into your hands in close quaters with smg

frozen thorn
#

@rough olive Its ok to acknowledge DMRs, shotguns, and PWDs have been open to classes in past games. They cant hurt you hurt you anymore, accept your past.

willow lance
#

DMRs were historically more broken than snipers too

rough olive
willow lance
#

Such as ZH29 from BFV and SVK from 2042 šŸ˜‚

late folio
#

BF3 AS Val. Boo!

rough olive
#

A DMR should support a somewhat long distance play style without being as effective as an actual sniper for the recon class

late folio
#

So scary

frozen thorn
willow lance
#

BF6 also has SVK and it's 2 shot body from seemingly all ranges

rough olive
willow lance
#

PDW is the same thing as SMG, just different name

rough olive
frozen thorn
willow lance
#

There is no SMG category in BF4 though, just PDW, there is no PDW category in BF6, just SMG, they are the same class

frozen thorn
#

Uhhhhh no they arent because shutup

#

Yall type too much

#

It took 2 sentences

wise cloak
frozen thorn
#

@rough olive Why did you go offline? Come back here and save Battlefield

pallid dirge
rough olive
wise cloak
willow lance
frozen thorn
willow lance
#

Arguably more broken than 2042 SVK because 2042 SVK can only do that up to 100 meters.

rough olive
worn marten
#

Best part is I like closed and open equally CursedCat

frozen thorn
tight prism
wise cloak
rough olive
split skiff
frank dust
#

2,475,795 seconds remaining until Battlefield 6

halcyon hedge
#

That is 2,475,795 seconds too many

timid dew
#

How much is this in dog Years ?

frank dust
#

i dont know...

hallow geode
#

I guess the only way I can access it is by typing out #battlefield-labs-discussion for myself to click on or clicking on it from sonebody else lmao

rustic tendon
#

i hope they do another beta, i wanna see if they actually did anything to the servers and how bad the desync and phantom shots + damage registration being so awful

hallow geode
quasi breach
timid dew
#

2,475,795 seconds ā‰ˆ 0.55 dog years, or about half a year in dog life

quasi breach
hallow geode
quasi breach
celest belfry
#

BF6 maps too small

rough olive
celest belfry
#

Like shit, cod gonna have bigger maps😭

kind snow
celest belfry
#

Cod player

#

I only like big maps

chilly shore
#

Probably the kind of Iron I can rely on

errant fiber
# chilly shore The BF6 beta garand is amazing

Garand? You mean the M39 EMR? Which is a derivative of the M21? In turn a derivative of the M14. Which was developed from the T44E1. Which admittedly was an experimental version developed from the Garand.

hexed moth
chilly shore
#

Yeah, one of the best Irons I've used

celest belfry
#

wtf JSmith

late folio
#

Firestorm is a big map

rough olive
errant fiber
celest belfry
errant fiber
#

Although, admittedly, the aperture we see in games is significantly larger than the real life one.

late folio
#

Firestorm is not a BR

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It's a remaster from 3 and 4

chilly shore
#

What's the point of Big maps if only half the areas are gonna be used if we're gonna have big maps might as well give such areas some use

celest belfry
late folio
#

Operation Firestorm is a map

normal echo
#

The fire is literally the shrinking border of the br area

celest belfry
#

The map is Operation firestorm

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You have to be distinct

late folio
#

You really don't.

celest belfry
#

Yea you do lol. As you have a whole mode being called firestorm nowleo 😭 😭

normal echo
#

Regarding the bigger maps, I'm not sure it's gonna matter unless they also have higher player counts

kind snow
#

Why not have the shrinking boarder be tanks, anti aircraft and military personnel that are slowing closing in

late folio
celest belfry
hexed moth
#

So there is around 3 large maps. That will do me. I like to crawl around the outside. Make a quick coffee before I slide in like Jason bourne.

celest belfry
#

Please, you’re not gonna be right in any way or shape

blazing moon
#

Anyone else watched the tren twins play battlefield 6?

quasi breach
errant fiber
#

Potentially unpopular opinion but I prefer fairly large maps, gives a bit of a breathing period between objectives instead of immediately attacking the next one.

celest belfry
#

Yea you could lol. Talking about maps sizes, and I never evidently said MP

late folio
urban robin
#

Stay strong guys, we have less than a month

quasi breach
normal echo
#

I'm personally hoping for more maps like Cairo... Even lib peak felt a bit stretched thin, imo

celest belfry
#

Liberation is hot trash

urban robin
quasi breach
normal echo
urban robin
celest belfry
#

They are both bad. I don’t see the New York map as a BF map

normal echo
#

And I enjoy smaller maps/more cqb and still hated new York

celest belfry
#

It’s like a COD three lane map

quasi breach
rough olive
late folio
#

It's pretty close to Operation 925 so eh it’s whatever.

rancid bone
#

can you believe it guys
battlefield 6 just 4 weeks away

celest belfry
#

So far I have only been let down. Only somewhat mediocre map is Cairo.

dim drum
#

for me large maps it a must on battlefield, what they could have done is are urban areas to make maps as big as they can (add jeeps ramdomly on the map for faster travel)

urban robin
late folio
#

Cairo is a great map

celest belfry
#

Can’t believe 2042 offers better maps

urban robin
quasi breach
urban robin
#

BF6 maps are way better lmao. BF2042 is like being in a no mans land

kind snow
#

2042 maps were amazing !

quasi breach
urban robin
rough olive
#

They better have some real battlefield maps

kind snow
celest belfry
urban robin
quasi breach
celest belfry
#

Every battlefield is nearly open no man’s land maps lol

dim drum
#

2042 has bigger maps i agree with that, but i would't say they are better

urban robin
normal echo
quasi breach
urban robin
hexed moth
#

I think the maps I’ve seen cover most styles. Personally I don’t like small maps. I’m to slow for CQB now. But understand ppl like CQB. I’m a mid range player. Not good enough to sniper. Not fast enough to CQB. But there is a place for me.

dim drum
#

the maps on battlefield 6 are great but they are too small

quasi breach
celest belfry
#

It’s their purpose almost

urban robin
#

I love large maps, but they must have areas where you can cover. Too open is just... Too easy for vehicles to mow the lawn

urban robin
rough olive
urban robin
celest belfry
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Did people not play Battlefield 1, V or 4??

hexed moth
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We need to be able to dig tunnels 🤣

rough olive
celest belfry
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They were the same lol

normal echo
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Really hope we get a "shooting range" to learn how to drive or fly the vehicles.... Else my "job" in a helicopter is going to be "survive longer than 5 seconds before dumping into a mountain and dying"

celest belfry
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ā€œTrenchesā€ lol, as if that makes a difference

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Me with my thermal 30 mm cannon in your trench

urban robin
quasi breach
normal echo
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Felt super bad wasting fliers on lib peak when other players actually knew how to operate them

urban robin
celest belfry
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I mean, you literally have solo conquest where you can set the ai to beginner

urban robin
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Thats a match with ai bots

quasi breach
celest belfry
hexed moth
dim drum
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there were plenty of areas that allowed for a full field of view, as a sniper i love it but it didn't feel right. the last map they added felt better but since they are about to relese BF6 it doesn't make much of a difference

celest belfry
quasi breach
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something where you just have vehicles located at the firing range. you jump in and fly/drive. and if it crashes, another spawns immediately

celest belfry
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BFV and 4 did that test range

normal echo
urban robin
celest belfry
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As V and 4 did..

quasi breach
celest belfry
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Enemies are not a problem in loading a match lol. If it’s a fixed map with vehicles, it has to load them

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The memeory of the objects (polys of models) needs to be loaded

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Unless you want it to constantly be side loaded in the main menu

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Just invisible

hexed moth
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Can you make your own map, and close it to practice flying etc. no bots like BF3 i recall. We had our own clan server.

celest belfry
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That’s literally portal in BF2042 lol

west tinsel
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Battlefield 7?

hexed moth
rough olive
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2042 sucks

celest belfry
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And BF4 had the best solution. It spawned you on an island with every special weapon, vehicle and unlimited ammo. And a house that could be destroyed to showcase the destruction properties of each weapon, it would then respawn when destroyed

west tinsel