battlefield-6

[gilded solstice]

i guess that depends if people start taking it personally

[candid owl]

Why

[molten gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/txtnasty-gif-10950884784754671178

[spare socket]

I did talk about Nato and other things I won't mention again so I don't get warned

[stoic iris]

Very political stuff 🙁

[craggy tapir]

U.S. is being invaded by Pax in Empire State

UK is being invaded in Gibraltar by Pax

Egypt is being invaded by Pax in Cairo

[valid drift]

Yeah but we've been talking about NATO for a while now without issue, so I'm confused

[vast ore]

italy?

[valid drift]

Ah, so AT LEAST those are still in NATO, yeah gotcha

[candid owl]

Italy is still in NATO

There’s a small radio on the Gibraltar map where a British soldier is screaming “Italy please come save us please”

[stoic iris]

Jeez guys... Now I'm crying. Thanks 🙁

[craggy tapir]

Wouldn’t be surprised if the writers have Italy swap sides as a nod towards WW2

Kinda like what they did with France

[vast ore]

what

[candid owl]

I heard there is a pp size option like in Baldur’s Gate

[stoic iris]

Just messing around. Making light of "politics" being used to dismiss a very cool topic being discussed in relation to the game, that imo makes me more excited for the game

[spare socket]

I think bf6 can tell a pretty compelling story if the premise of the game is to expose how misinformation and hatred can lead to un needed conflict.

If the premise is X organizations spawned a misinformation/fueled conflict esque war state that NATO memebers blamed the U.S and left NATO for PAX that could be so cool.

The whole campaign would be focused on NATO trying to expose the origins of PAX armada.

[stoic iris]

As I'm not a fan of nato or the un

So it does have campaign mode?!

[candid owl]

How could a private company invade the US? It just doesn’t make any sense.

[spare socket]

Pax is not a private company it's formed from former NATO members that joined forces for some reason we don't know.

[candid owl]

It’s a private company, not an alliance

[spare socket]

That is bankrolled by former nato countries https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Pax_Armata

[craggy tapir]

Would be cool, yeah

I think it’s going to go the route of “private company becomes 1st or 2nd most powerful army in the world and forces NATO countries to join their coalition or be destroyed”

[candid owl]

That doesn’t meant it’s not a private company. They’re mercenaries. It’s unrealistic.

[spare socket]

Yes it's a private company... funded by former nato members....

[valid drift]

Countries looking to fill the power vacuum left by this chaos turn to a massive private military corporation with deep pockets and the latest tech to reshape the global balance of power. This army is Pax Armada.

[molten gyro]

From within. Pretty recent real world example that I shall not talk about

[spare socket]

literally lol

[candid owl]

Not realistic. They have tanks and shit

[tawdry temple]

🥱

[candid owl]

You’re just a cringe person

[stoic iris]

If this is regarding current battlefield lore, I honestly never got into it. Everything after bf4 was kinda garbage.. ESPECIALLY when they put up the race wall in bf5, forcing you to say you agreed with blm if you wanted to play. At that point I just closed the game and uninstalled it. I hope bf6 doesn't do race wall stuff

[valid drift]

Ah, interestingly the written press release does specify former nato states, while the trailers don't

[spare socket]

The u.s military is practically on the verge of private tbh. It contracts most of its manufacturing to private companies. The only difference is that soldiers are funded by the country.

The world of BF6 basically has a company handling the hiring of the military as well and giving it to the countries it supports lol.

[molten gyro]

It happened in a certain conflict a couple years ago

[craggy tapir]

Iirc there was something that pointed towards sleeper agents inside the US that caused chaos that allowed the tanks and stuff to be brought in

[candid owl]

Not the same thing

[spare socket]

it's a private company that is literally funded and serves a group of nations

[spare socket]

the only difference is the alignment and hiring of its military personel

Pax just cuts out that step and privatizes that too

[candid owl]

Yeah they had mercenaries but they did not make up enough people to invade the US or act on their own.

[vast ore]

i wonder who lol

[spare socket]

former nato members that seceded due to some reason we don't know among other groups

[candid owl]

Iran and Palestine

[vast ore]

oh no i know that but there might be someone else too yknow

[candid owl]

Iran and Palestine

[sly heath]

Blackwater, Triple Canopy, or whatever PMC firm name it's changed into

[craggy tapir]

It most likely won’t be Russia or china because they don’t want to make them seem like bad guys

[molten gyro]

Concept is the same. Probability of success is irrelevant

[vast ore]

oh god damn it

[candid owl]

None of those groups are what Pax is

[spare socket]

yeah likely china or russia or some private group who knows.

I think it would be interesting to see a campaign that is about exposing the reality of misinformation and hatred.

A subdivision of NATO essentially discovers what PAX and the groups behind it did to weave hatred towards the U.S and NATO forming the PAX vs NATO conflict.

[sly heath]

Just listing an example of popular PMC

[candid owl]

Dumb concept

[craggy tapir]

China is a big consumer market. Iirc they lost a lot of potential money from 4 because they made china seem like the villain

[spare socket]

this is actually the opposiite

[vast ore]

yeah it was banned there for a while wasn't it

[candid owl]

So make a country without internet the villain like Iran

[spare socket]

the chinese bf4 player base is the largest right now lmao. Even though it's banned

[craggy tapir]

Well that’s interesting

[spare socket]

wanna know why it's very funny

[candid owl]

No

[spare socket]

I wasn't asking you lol

[candid owl]

You asked everyone

[spare socket]

☠️

[long bolt]

this guy

[candid owl]

Sounds like Everyone else is a no too

[tawdry temple]

Whole lotta 🦗

[spare socket]

I'll specify then. Would you like to know why bf4 is popular in china. It's pretty funny

[craggy tapir]

Sure

[vast ore]

go on

[candid owl]

Bro is holding us in suspense here

[valid drift]

It seems to have recently gotten unbanned? But I can't find great news on it

[sly heath]

China wasn't even the villian tbh.
Battlefield originally listed Russia and China just because they have the biggest military

[candid owl]

Dude go eat with your fingers

[spare socket]

The bf4 campaign had a Chinese dub and a Chinese main character with such horrendous dubbing that it spawned memes from misunderstanding what he was saying
Memes include:
"be a warrior of the highest quality."

"list them up on the stock market" (when abducting someone and threatening them with torture in the campaign)

"What's your mission in Shanghai? To let our western friends witness our greatness."
(all of these and more are a result of misunderstanding the poor dub of the game)
Here's a video on the subject:
https://youtu.be/NEEbBh6xMWw?si=Dq_NYXVzHKswuq3N

The bf4 chinese community is literally people that play a game illegally due to the memes it spawned from the fact the game's campaign is the equivalent of the bee movie in china

[sly heath]

Wasn't China led by a rogue leader in BF4
It's like calling the US the enemy in Spec Ops the line for similar reason

[vast ore]

wtf

[covert fog]

Bro stop the racism

[spare socket]

It's hilarious

[candid owl]

Look who’s talking

[spare socket]

Like no joke whenever there's a chance to reference these memes on chinese social media or news. This shizz gets spammed in chinese chats

[vast ore]

haha

[valid drift]

Recently, China has lifted restrictions on many games. Not only has Battlefield 4 been unblocked, but Rainbow Six has also been allowed
But no actual western news source yet

[spare socket]

oh that's neat. It was being played illegally for a long time

[covert fog]

JSmith serious question bro, what have you actually accomplished today?

[spare socket]

Glad to see it's legal now. Likely due to said meme community tbh.

I was only made aware of this since one of my best friends lived in china for years and was a major bf4 fan when he was younger.

[candid owl]

I bought Dr Pepper blackberry

[vast ore]

or just was long enough after that it didn't matter

[spare socket]

probably.

[covert fog]

XD and what else

[candid owl]

Read one chapter in a book

[spare socket]

Regardless the chinese bf4 community is a bunch of silly and fun people ngl.

[vast ore]

this reminds me of the chinese players that saved super earth in helldivers

[spare socket]

It's a bit sad we can't actually view the player numbers or community of bf4 in china due to data restrictions

[candid owl]

Do you think they have the same consciousness as us? I don’t view them as human beings

[spare socket]

and the fact that their accounts weren't exactly playing the game legally to begin with

so shifting an account that technically based on the IP address and where it says its based in isn't in china

to china... yeah that won't bode over too well lol.

[fathom summit]

Can we go ahead and ban these people?

[spare socket]

which people?

[candid owl]

Chinese

[fathom summit]

Both of you

[vast ore]

i wonder how many countries got boosted because of chinese players making a different account

[candid owl]

Both of who?

[valid drift]

I can't find official sources or announcements but bilibili allows bf4 uploads since a month or so. Since they are a huge platform and likely adhere to government regulations we could infer legalisation

[vast ore]

what did da babu do

[candid owl]

Both of who?

[candid owl]

Both of who??

[hidden carbon]

I used to play Lost Planet 2 online and around 3AM it became all Chinese lobbies and players lol

[vast ore]

the invasion

[spare socket]

if you like planet side 2 I highly recommend checking out exomecha in 2026.

it's like if planet side 2, crysis, and battlefield had a baby

throw in some titanfall mechs to boot.

It's a game that has been in development for 9 years by 5 indie devs (who got some grants from xbox and epic games)

[hidden carbon]

Not PlanetSide 2, Lost Planet 2

[spare socket]

I'm illiterate ☠️ sorry

[vast ore]

what even is planetside 2, i saw it in my steam library for atleast a decade now

[hidden carbon]

Though I played PlanetSide 2 beta back in the day lol

[spare socket]

It's an old game that is basically one of the largest scale shooters of all time. It's a bit dated but does what it says.

[vast ore]

shit i should've played it then

[hidden carbon]

Like 100-200 players Conquest with red, blue and futuristic purple team

[spare socket]

you know the planet part in planet side.

Imagine multiple factions literally fighting for control constantly over an entire planet 24/7 non stop

[fathom summit]

you

[vast ore]

so what would be like a pvp helldivers on a single planet

[spare socket]

it's not really a game you match make into. You do your dailies and fight for control over the planet forever

[tawdry temple]

😭

[candid owl]

Check your DMs

[spare socket]

Another into the block list it goes ☠️

[tawdry temple]

Stop it JSmith

[candid owl]

Why would you block me

[hidden carbon]

I got a victory medal as purple and died. Dude was like die

[candid owl]

It’s not what you think I just insulted him

[valid drift]

With how many of their messages are getting deleted you'd think they'd be getting muted by now right?

[spare socket]

I swear man this single server has contributed to some of my worst discord experiences ever.

In a single week it has contributed more to my blocklist than an entire 8 years on discord.

[tawdry temple]

🤥

[vast ore]

no mods in here lmao

[candid owl]

Please get my pronouns correct

[vast ore]

what did he say lol, tell me in dms

[candid owl]

If a mod would stop me from just having a normal conversation then this community is over moderated

[fathom summit]

its okay I'll get him banned once a mod is online

[candid owl]

Oooh big and scary

[vast ore]

[hidden carbon]

G2g

[spare socket]

I’m being serious this person isn't even the worst I've met so far. I met a strange individual who literally fed anything I said into chat gpt and spouted it out to be more pretentious, spammy, and/or racist.

[placid hare]

Fuck the filters

[spare socket]

They also made 2 alts to continue doing this ☠️

[vast ore]

goodbye?

[vast ore]

wow

[fathom summit]

are you just saying this now because you're favourite youtuber is?

[hidden carbon]

Aha ha ha

[spare socket]

like bro this server has some neat and normal people

but good lord does it have the most unhinged, unregulated nonsense I've seen in a while.

[vast ore]

i like you bro, you are cool

[placid hare]

Nope I noticed it during first beta weekend. Mostly just poking fun at everyone who just realized it because of that video

[spare socket]

you seem like a neat fellow yourself

[summer cobalt]

So it's just like allchat in the game? 😛

[valid drift]

It reminded me of bf3 which was cool

[spare socket]

tbh I actually think filters can contribute to really unique map aesthetics.

I don't think the team should remove the filters but adjust them.

[spare socket]

my main issue with bf3 is I feel like it spammed the same blue tinted filter 24/7 rather than a unique filter to help cement maps' visual identity/aesthetic

[candid owl]

Both of who?

[spare socket]

I'm cool with what bf6 is trying to do with it's unique filters but I think said filters could be tweaked to be more interesting.

[vast ore]

what is this talk about filters?

[fathom summit]

you, you donkey

[valid drift]

Really I'd like to see different settings, like audio mixes. But visuals are a lot more determining of "fairness" so that goes out the window in a multiplayer game

[spare socket]

try wartapes val. It's an amazing audio mix

[long bolt]

depends what region you are in, game chat over here in Oceania is mostly non existent, here on discord its well, you know X)

[placid hare]

Bf1 looked better because of the lighter filter

[valid drift]

No I mean graphics settings to mimic the audio mixes. You know, very contrast heavy (Very Aggressive Visuals) or neutral etc

[valid drift]

Different artstyles for different reasons

[summer cobalt]

Oh I really don't like wartapes, it's insanely compressed
Which makes sense for what it is (the feeling of recorded war footage with those auto-adjusting gain microphones you find on hand-held recorders or smartphones), but I really like it when soft sounds are a lot ... softer then loud sounds.

[spare socket]

bf6 implements color grading on pretty much all of its maps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIJYzFEITX8&t=53s&pp=ygUJYmY2IGNvbG9y here's a video on the topic with more specific examples.

I actually don't entirely agree with this video but I do like how it brought up the matrix.

I think if Bf6 adjusts its color grading for its maps each map can have a unique aesthetic/vibe that is more tailor made. Atm the filters don't really add enough to the map's vibe imo.

[spare socket]

unlike bf3 which mostly spams the same blue tinted color filter it actually has variety tho

[summer cobalt]

tbf basically every game does color grading, it's just more noticable on some.

[candid owl]

Did you really block me?

[vast ore]

oh i didn't notice, i just went "game looks good.." and went on

[summer cobalt]

Or at least, any game that uses some form of HDR rendering.

[spare socket]

mind you color grading is pretty standard in the industry.

Bf1, 4, 5, even 2042 have color grading.

Some use it for a stylistic purpose/intent.

It can help give entire maps a unique aesthetic/feeling if done right

[placid hare]

All they need to do is… less. Less intense contrast adjustments. Less color desaturation

[spare socket]

I agree the color desaturation is a bit much. BUT I would argue the tints and the intense color contrasts if done correctly can be stylistically interesting

[candid owl]

Maybe they should make it more gray looking to fit the mood of a scary war

[spare socket]

take cairo for example the yellows and oranges if done right can give the concept of burning heat

[valid drift]

I really like the current look on all maps tbh

[spare socket]

or liberation peak. The blues and whites if emphasized correctly can give the feeling of distance and being cold in the mountain tops

[summer cobalt]

BF1 got the mood of a scary war really well by going with the usually quite bright, relatively vibrant colour set.

[candid owl]

Nobody else does

[placid hare]

I think this guy works for DICE lol

[candid owl]

This war is scarier. We are fighting a big bad corporation

[fathom summit]

They all looked good to me

[strange rose]

corpo shills

[fathom summit]

Liberation was probably my fav looking

[placid hare]

I can’t see shit on lib peak personally

[spare socket]

I actually (personally) like the map design of all the maps except Empire State from a mechanics perspective.

Excluding empire I think all the maps are mechanically cool. But in terms of aesthetics I think that the maps could be tweaked to reallly sell their visual identities. @valid drift

[summer cobalt]

'Cuz what makes BF1 work well imo is that you have that contrast of a relatively pristine (depending on map) look that then gets blown to bits as things go on.

[candid owl]

Video game industry: “Big corporations BAD. Now buy my game which was made by a multi million dollar corporation”

[spare socket]

I understand doom eternal is a very different game from battlefield and will incorporate very different color grading

not saying they should be the same at all mind you

[valid drift]

Peak was kinda bad layout tbh. All the points to close to each other without any real cover in between

[spare socket]

but I would like bf to commit its color grading to its map aesthetic further

[placid hare]

Da Babu confirmed dice employee

[candid owl]

There were rocks

[spare socket]

My issue with peak was the sniping and this one 35/30 cost grip attachment

[candid owl]

He thinks he sounds smart right now

[spare socket]

the sniping in bf6 lacks enough bullet drop or flinch compared to prior battlefield titles.

The 35/30 cost grips made recoil for ars reduce by about 60ish %. That it made DMRs lose long range gun fights. (The base recoils of the ARs in bf6 are actually comparable to bf3 and 4)

[spare socket]

I think if a single grip attachment is making your sandbox break and making an entire class of weapons (long range LMGs and DMRs) repetitive and kind useless there might be a problem with that attachment

[strange rose]

how far does a bullet drop over 200m? like fr tho

[placid hare]

Agree with ya there. More bullet drop or bigger maps needed asap

[vast ore]

why are the glints so god damn BRIGHT

[summer cobalt]

At a rate of 9.81m/s^2 😛

[valid drift]

Flinch and suppression are painfully absent

[placid hare]

0.2mm

[summer cobalt]

you mean irl?

How fast is the bullet?

[spare socket]

yeah the glints are a bit horrendous

[strange rose]

very fast, i think faster than a car

[vast ore]

i feel bad for the sniper aiming at me

[summer cobalt]

I mean yes but it depends on the gun and calibre, different bullets have different speeds. I'm going full nerd here 😛

[candid owl]

Glint shouldn’t exist

[spare socket]

depends entirely on the specific ammunition's muzzle velocity, ballistic coefficient, air density, sight height relative to the barrelt, uphill or downhill firing, etc

It's a highly variable thing but 200 meters should have very minimal bullet drop for a sniper usually

[placid hare]

Bruh it’s a damn videogame

[spare socket]

Yeah which is my point

[prime trout]

the_gameroutty

[spare socket]

balance the sandbox for the game. I think bf4 and 3 had the right idea for bullet drop and bullet travel

[spare socket]

especially bullet travel if Imma be real with you

[glacial karma]

so i heard from a friend, if i grind the Lynx and the KMS2000 to Max they unlock max over on bf6?

[valid drift]

This one random calculator gives a 14.6cm drop at 200m for 7.62x51mm NATO

[placid hare]

Drop in 3 was good, drop in BC2 was goated imo

[spare socket]

and this game lacks pretty much any sniper flinch tbh

like if you're getting shot at as a sniper you barely flinch or need to reposition in this game compared to the other titles

[spare socket]

like I said. Negligible

[summer cobalt]

0.3 meters if we assume it's got a speed of 800 m/s

[strange rose]

will bf6 release on xb game pass?

[spare socket]

the drop is less important the travel speed I think is the bigger concern

[deft kelp]

Nah only bo 7

[candid owl]

No on Gamejolt Pass only

[placid hare]

Hopefully not

[summer cobalt]

I mean if you lower the travel speed you get more drop 😛

[spare socket]

true but I feel like in bf6 the travel speed is a bit too fast relative to the distance and drop

[summer cobalt]

You can probably expect it to show up on EA Play Pro. XBOX game pass only has regular EA Play.

[spare socket]

At least from a sandbox perspective (not a realism pov)

[summer cobalt]

That's fair, given that the fights themselves don't really occur over realistic ranges either.

[spare socket]

Like come on you can't tell me that liberation would be a much better map if sniping was harder in this game

[candid owl]

John battlefield is gonna say some nonsense

[placid hare]

They need to 10x map size

[spare socket]

and if one attachment didn't reduce AR recoil by almost 60%

[summer cobalt]

You'd need some Arma sized maps to make that work a bit better.

[valid drift]

I think the snipers are ok really. Suppression/flinch would already nerf them by a lot

[gentle harbor]

Yea, ig bc they added the "sweetspot" mechanic, which allows players know when theyre in range of a lethal headshot.

They wanted to make sure its noticeable.

[valid drift]

Oh and they're reducing both the glint and trail for release

[trim notch]

It would be nice if they had some prior service stuff for people who played BF3 and BF4

special dog tag - Veteran, Re-tread or Old Man of BF.

[vast ore]

thank god, the glint is horrendous for the sniper

[spare socket]

(this is on console which has a lil less recoil to begin with)
https://youtu.be/l-2Khxgrg-U?si=r63nys6nQBiv3YU2

[summer cobalt]

Glints are bright 'cuz you're supposed to be sniping like a real Gamer™ which is entirely by using the ironsights 😛

[deft kelp]

Why the glint though 🤔

[candid owl]

Glint should be gone. Such a dumb mechanic

[spare socket]

but the fact that a single grip has this much of an effect on the recoil is insane

[valid drift]

It's horrendous for me to shoot at them, can't even see them

[candid owl]

It looked like a spotlight

[spare socket]

tbh glint in general is insane in this game (and in some cases buggy)

[deft kelp]

Well it helps you to know the position of enemy

[candid owl]

Ok and? That’s dumb

[vast ore]

shoot at the light directly, it's easy, the glint is only scary but in reality it's a detriment for the sniper

[spare socket]

I am hopeful when the team said they want to emphasize more tap firing

[deft kelp]

Why though?

[candid owl]

Because it doesn’t make any sense

[spare socket]

that they specifically opted to nerf the attachments

[valid drift]

Well yeah I know but the glints are SO big that the centre is still like 50x50 pixels

[vast ore]

it should not be that bright, it is unfair to the sniper

[spare socket]

the base guns are perfectly fine and comparable to bf4 and 3. The attachments turn the guns into literal laser beams

[vast ore]

huh, i have been killing them fine

[candid owl]

Nice profile pic

[deft kelp]

Then won't it be unfair for the players who get sniped?

[spare socket]

first of all. Before we continue this conversation. Please change your username immediately

Otherwise I simply won't have a conversation with you

[valid drift]

Countersniping probably fine, I'm set up for CQC usually so

[undone fjord]

dice bf1 colour grading please for bf6

[spare socket]

buh bye then ig.

[strange rose]

what about his pfp?

[vast ore]

they can hear the shots, and they should still be a glint that isn't a straight up LIGHT OF GOD

[simple mountain]

I'd worry more about the pfp than the name personally

[spare socket]

I didn't even notice that.

[strange rose]

omg it's john battlefield

[vast ore]

i was trynna not look but oh no

[spare socket]

just block them. You have to do that to function as a normal human being in this server.

[vast ore]

yea

[tawdry temple]

Who we blocking?!

[gentle harbor]

The issue with the glint rn is that u cant tell if theyre aiming at ur direction or not.

Its very bright even on off angles.

So countering becomes difficult.

[spare socket]

Nobody has a requirement to entertain hateful and horrendous people

[spare socket]

I think you can take a wild guess based on a pfp and username combination

I'm not gonna talk about them further.

[gentle harbor]

Bro ea, why r u not banning this man

[spare socket]

Moderation in this server is a joke.

[strange rose]

EA are busy cooking up a BF

[deft kelp]

So it just shows a bright light in your pov?

[tawdry temple]

Today ain't real, JSmith dropped and now we got this guy

[strange rose]

does this include me, as a monkey who wears a suit?

[deft kelp]

Nah they will burn it trust me

[gentle harbor]

Yea, like a bright sunshine.

Its great cuz i can immediately dive into cover.

Its bad bc its so big u cant precisely aim at the sniper.

Only missiles and bombs work in this case.

[spare socket]

I would just. not entertain them personally

[vast ore]

lmao

[spare socket]

But I do understand if you wish to mock them for personal entertainment.

[spare socket]

Totally reasonable. I just don't have the time or care to do so.

[valid drift]

Beyond blocking also report the messages, the more reports the faster it gets picked up

[candid owl]

Do you guys think Battlefield 7 will go back to World War 1

[lone heart]

Yo i just hopped on wtf

[fathom summit]

Banned speedrun tonight?

[snow cave]

Nah

[candid owl]

I hope Battlefield 7 goes back to world war 1

[night raft]

Nah

[spare socket]

just report and block them

lets move on shall we.

[candid owl]

Everyone report and block jacqueline

[valid drift]

Oh report both through right click > report, AND right click > apps > report

[spare socket]

☠️ bro what

[visual cape]

@gaunt arch You reading this chat?

[strange rose]

or israel vs iran

[summer cobalt]

Don't forget that when you report, you can also press "apss->report" which goes to EA, and then there'sthe built-in discord stuff that goes to discord.

[tawdry temple]

Get banned for pinging staff

[spare socket]

annnd another one on the block list.

[strange rose]

im joking on this one but israel vs iran might be fire

[snow cave]

Since they want that COD player base

[fathom summit]

You're getting banned as soon as a mod is online as well as the other dude

[summer cobalt]

Not exactly a fair fight is it.

[vast ore]

oh damn

[deft kelp]

Well that's a little problem

[valid drift]

Anyway, what was the topic before? Glints?

[candid owl]

Why? Wtf did I do to you

[strange rose]

no babe just a lil joke, i dont want that game 🙁

[tawdry temple]

Bro this chat is cinema

[candid owl]

It’s fair

[spare socket]

Just some sandbox elements that probably should get some adjustments in general tbh.

[summer cobalt]

Let's not make a joke about all that

[vast ore]

that's not battlefield that's arma antistasi

[spare socket]

I actually have a list of changes I want for bf6 (it's a lil long) would you guys care to criticize it?

[fathom summit]

There's none online just now

[strange rose]

did you get the new arma? i played 2 and 3 so much but the new one just looks trash tbh

[spare socket]

upvote or downvote this if you would be interested or not.

[valid drift]

Yes please, anything other than the current topic

[deft kelp]

Though anyone playing bf 2042 for rewards on bf 6?

[visual cape]

Totalfps is online right now lmao

[long bolt]

mods will get em later, been a dosen or so "bad apples" just gone quiet lately

[vast ore]

i don't own it.. which is good?

[snow cave]

I played it a lot it’s pretty good if you play the right servers

[gaunt arch]

https://tenor.com/view/why-cant-you-all-just-behave-yourselves-michael-groth-mandjtv-please-behave-tame-yourselves-gif-17354122

[vast ore]

finally

huzzah

[lone heart]

Do sum

[candid owl]

I LOVE BATTLEFIELD

[deft kelp]

Yeah that's good because it took them bf 6 to make bf 2042 little playable

[long bolt]

thank you totalfps X)

[candid owl]

I LOVE BATTLEFIELD

[gentle harbor]

Usually just make a call out on the sniper, then ur squad can flank him, or get an engineer to obliterate their cover.

Unfortunately this rarely worked in the beta.

People haven't figured how to counter recons.

[summer cobalt]

tbf most people are behaving it's just this one guy who wants to go back to 1861 😛

[candid owl]

Thank you sir. You are a hero

[spare socket]

I loved the beta but I have a minor list of complaints as a long-time Battlefield fan.
Required
-Improve the netcode. Some of the bullet registration has felt a bit wonky
-Improve the UI
-remove "flick look" option (I'm not sure how to feel about it. It's a button option where if you click the button you rotate 180º instantly)
-fix the spawns
-Vehicle controls in this game are especially clunky compared to prior titles. Especially the air vehicles, notably the helicopters, handle horrendously.
-Separate sensitivity for aim down sights and hip fire
-Separate sensitivity for tanks, buggies, players, jets, and helis.
-Improve Empire State's map flow. I've felt it to be the map where I've had the most one-sided matches.
-Reduce the lens flare a bit. It can be a bit much sometimes. (especially sniper glint)
-Increase bullet drop and/or bullet travel for snipers
-Give snipers flinch when getting shot
-Change sniper's passive perk from auto spot to something else. Autospot sucks in general imo.
-Fix bugs like players entering rooftops, the bloom bug, the random insane lens flare bugs, the matchmaking bug after a game, etc.
-The DMRs feel very underpowered, and the LMGs feel like they lack a real role besides their large magazine. While the LMGs have easy-to-control recoil, the ARs all get easy-to-control recoil with the right attachments. LMGs could use a unique suppression mechanic potentially.
Optional:
-maybe increase time to kill by like 10-30 milliseconds. It's just a touch too fast right now.
-minor color grading adjustments could make the map aesthetics more defined
-add the ability to cook grenades
-blood and mud effects would be nice
Unsure:
-I feel some attachments make the guns a bit too easy to control. The base guns are fine and similar to bf4. (I might be tripping on this one, and the attachments are fine. I'm not sure.) One grip in particular seems to reduce recoil by around 60% https://youtu.be/l-2Khxgrg-U?si=r63nys6nQBiv3YU2

[candid owl]

Stop spamming

[tawdry temple]

Somebody tldr this

[spare socket]

can't reallly tldr it. It's a list of individual beta complaints

[deft kelp]

They dropped one of the best trailer for bf 2042 and just left the fork on the microwave for the gameplay

[strange rose]

last time i tldr'd with chatgpt i got a warning for harrassment

[candid owl]

He’s whining and thinks someone cares

[tawdry temple]

John Smith, we about to drop a .png

[candid owl]

No dude

[deft kelp]

With your name and profile pic I don't want to ask what you even said to chat gpt

[spare socket]

it's a bit sad yeah.

The rendezook was iconic

[vast ore]

flick look?

[strange rose]

What are you implying brother?

[spare socket]

it's an option where if you click a button you rotate 180º immediately

[valid drift]

They somewhat have the separate sensitivity through the multiplier no? Is that not enough?

wait I'm interrupting my comment to say that I just got a "no further action" on the n-word spammer's messages that I reported

[vast ore]

ohhhh that

[summer cobalt]

'cuz he's already got banned, skyweb

so there's no further action to take

[spare socket]

I would like more detailed customization options tbh. The vehicle ones are more pressing tho

[valid drift]

I saw yeah, but then shouldn't it just consolidate that to everyone who reported the guy X)X)

[gentle harbor]

People are insane sometimes

Ig brainrot got to them

[candid owl]

No

[summer cobalt]

I'm geussing that a moderator just gets a whole list of reports that they have to click through individually.

[deft kelp]

Though i hope they fix the map glitch and nerf the constant jump and slide

[summer cobalt]

specivically because some people just reported different messages.

[strange rose]

did you see the map glitch behind a rock where snipers were hiding

[candid owl]

I hope they give the assault ladder to support

[tawdry temple]

I gotta admit, that was a pretty reasonable crash-out from him

[spare socket]

https://youtu.be/JxsV6pDhdTQ?si=vM664aEik_r8Ii9M @valid drift in regards to vehicle controls. The apache helis in this game compared to bf4 and 3 are a joke.

This is what an apache is capable of irl and in bf6 it's a literal clunk mobile.

[valid drift]

I think I agree with everything on the list except increased bullet drop. IMO I didn't feel like snipers were OP or oppressive.

[gentle harbor]

His pfp, name and the fact he kept saying racist stuff is crazy.

But then again, he was speedrunning getting banned.

[deft kelp]

What about the shotgun?

[spare socket]

I think the ease of sniping in this game makes liberation a much worse map

[candid owl]

I disagree with the whole list

[spare socket]

is already getting nerfed in the patch notes so I didn't discuss it.

[valid drift]

True, shotguns are missing from the list I guess

[candid owl]

Your name should be John State The Obvious

[strange rose]

i think shotguns are okay, they rip irl so why not ingame

[deft kelp]

Yeah that's s good thing it was total nightmare lol

[spare socket]

sandbox balance do be a thing sometimes

[long bolt]

shotty with the slug ammo turns it into a sniper rifle lol

BF6

[gentle harbor]

Its the fact that not many people know how to counter snipers.

That and the lack of misdirection tools that can be used against snipers.

[valid drift]

They also are looking at vehicle controls, investigating ttk/ttd, reducing the lens flare, fixing the rooftops

[strange rose]

monki hehe

[vast ore]

lmao i got reported to ea

[spare socket]

True. (I also didn't wanna mention the shotguns because some people whine about it whenever I bring it up)

[valid drift]

Lookup shotguns versus kevlar, they don't do anything irl

[wicked tangle]

LibP has the best aesthetics of all the shown maps imo

[spare socket]

like a lotta people are like. Man this birdshot shotgun should 100% kill at range. And i'm like...

brother it will hit them at a range. It won't kill them lmao ☠️

[gentle harbor]

Bro its only weakness is the bloom bug.

Youll be missing shots randomly at close range.

Then the slow as heck reload.

[spare socket]

and with bf6 gear it shouldn't even penetrate

[wicked tangle]

Feels cold like a good bf3 map does

[deft kelp]

It was funny to see cod steamers play battlefield lol

[valid drift]

Oh, that explains why I swapped back to buckshot

[spare socket]

that bug only reallly occurs with slide spam

[valid drift]

I completely didn't connect the two dots even though I noticed the issue with rifles

[gentle harbor]

Rooftops being restricted to hax and cheating defo ruined a lot of games.

[summer cobalt]

Aren't slugs in shotguns inherently less accurate then regular bullets in regular rifles?

[spare socket]

Tbh shround was probably the most chill about it. He mentioned his personal feelings but acknowledged that they don't matter because what matters more is catering to the playerbase/fans of the franchise.

[valid drift]

Probably, but not crazily so

[summer cobalt]

('cuz it's not a rifled barrel or smth idk Im not a gun nerd)

[strange rose]

rooftops wouldn't be so bad if the buildings could actually be completely destroyed

[spare socket]

there comes a point where map design matters imo

[candid owl]

No they’re rifled slugs so they shoot out like a rifle

[valid drift]

And when both sides would be able to get up there X)

[strange rose]

yeah tru

[gentle harbor]

I dont even slide at all. It still happens.

I often had to take 3 shots and then die.

[candid owl]

It’s not a rifled barrel but the slug itself is rifled so it spins

[spare socket]

It might have been the netcode

the netcode of bf6 was... some genuine dung at times.

[valid drift]

My most faced issue was dying in 1 frame then seeing 6 hits in damage log

[spare socket]

it's the top issue in my complaint list for a reason

[vestal canopy]

they are looking into TTK and time of death stuff apparently

[valid drift]

(Also the damage log and hit locations is goated, why did it take this long for that to be a thing)

[strange rose]

respawn time?

[spare socket]

the worst thing that makes the ttk and ttd feel off is the netcode

[candid owl]

Good it should be way lower

[spare socket]

there are definetly other variables but the netcode is the #1 reason by a mile

[vast ore]

i think damage log is just bugged cus i would see that a tank killed me when it killed me 6 deaths ago

[deft kelp]

Though the kill time was little laggy for some reason for me

[valid drift]

Oh yeah for sure, tons of times I had 0 things in the log

[spare socket]

that is the netcode yes

[candid owl]

Bad internet connection

[vast ore]

you guys lagged? my game was smooth as hell

[candid owl]

You gotta change your name if you’re gonna play Battlefield

[spare socket]

netcode is basically the software that connect the players actions and the game's server.

good netcode minimizes lag, packet loss, synchronization issues, etc

[deft kelp]

When it came to kill time rest the movement and gameplay was so clean and smooth

[candid owl]

They had bad connection

[valid drift]

It's not LAG lag, just dying way faster than being able to kill

[spare socket]

the thing is it won't look like lag

[candid owl]

You must have cheap internet

[vast ore]

aha okay

[spare socket]

the thing about netcode is that on your end it looks perfectly normal

on the opponsnet's end it looks perfectly normal

there's a miscommunication in the server itself

[deft kelp]

Well i do have this name but my youtube dp is bf 6

[candid owl]

How did he come back?

[vestal canopy]

ehh

[vast ore]

bro

[vestal canopy]

why are you saying this

[vast ore]

oh it's another account

[spare socket]

just report and block them

[reef elk]

I guess he should go back to his ancestor's countries lol

[summer cobalt]

recreated an account just for this? bloody hell

[valid drift]

Netcode is a hard issue to solve anyway. With so many people with so many different connection "types" and speeds

[vast ore]

[candid owl]

No dude wtf

[spare socket]

I agree. it's not a simple issue to solve. I'm not sure what the team can do to fix this since I don't have experience on the matter, but I feel it's the number 1 thing that makes gunfights feel inconsistent.

[deft kelp]

Rest of the game for bf 6 was so smooth even though it was on open beta they did their job good apart from kill time

[cerulean ember]

@burnt merlin @gaunt arch

[reef elk]

Huh? Lol

[valid drift]

I'll take it as a lower priority tbh. As in, I don't think it felt like a dealbreaker

[candid owl]

That’s racist to make him go back

[edgy sky]

chat becoming real heated right now

[tight prism]

I reported the one racist rant like that and the EA bot told me it did not violate EA's policies. I would hope this time that was a glitch.

[spare socket]

Not really. If you block one person it's pretty normal

[summer cobalt]

Imagine getting mad that checks notes you have to live in the same place as descandants of people who were brought to build everything you see against their will 🤔

[reef elk]

How? Everyone has ancestors from somewhere else

[edgy sky]

forgot that feature exists, but I want him executed

[spare socket]

imagine giving attention to someone that made an alt for this purpose

just report and block them.

Feeding them just incentivizes them

[summer cobalt]

yeah but making sarcastic comments about fash trash makes me feel better?

[candid owl]

Must be someone who got muted like Pickle. He is probably behind this

[summer cobalt]

But also yeah fair enough.

[spare socket]

ig I just find it's a waste of my lifespan

anyways

@valid drift did you have a favorite weapon in the beta btw

I think for me the NVO (Or as it should be called the ACE) was by far my favorite gun. 3 shot kill up close and the with the right attachments that thing could beam at range

[deft kelp]

Mine was defibrillator 💀

[spare socket]

it was pretty funny

[valid drift]

I'm a meta slave so NVO. Shotgun felt really good too but probably not using that much in full release.

[summer cobalt]

I just ended up using hte default LMG a whole bunch.

[valid drift]

M417 was also good, ak 205

[long bolt]

mine was "death by building" X)

[spare socket]

I like how not enough people tried the NVO. lol

My top 3 weapons of the beta were definetly the LL10, m4, and NVO

[summer cobalt]

It is kinda weird to get access to the full LMGs as support after slumming it with the smgs for so long 😛

[spare socket]

the base recoil per shot of the NVO is the highest of the AR and Carbine category by a mile

but the attachments make it a literal laser beam that kills up close and beats dmrs at range.

[valid drift]

The LMGs felt really good to me actually.

[spare socket]

did you try the other lmg? I wish I did

[valid drift]

But mobility >>>

[summer cobalt]

(yes I know you can bring other weapons outside of the assigned catagory but I'm so used to just going with the "assigned weapon" for each class that I'm kinda stuck with that).

[valid drift]

I think I preferred the first, second one ROF was soooo slow

[summer cobalt]

tbf your mobility as support with them is still decent.

I like the LMGs and it felt like they had the whole "gain accuracy whilst you fire" from BC2 in there.

[spare socket]

it turns out you can put an attachment on the other lmg that makes its headshots do 50 damage and the gun has no recoil due to the type of LMG it was. It was a long range demon that could kill up close with the right aim

[zealous shore]

One stupid question will does anyone know if there will be a shield in bf6

[spare socket]

no joke that lmg was contesting snipers

I just didn't play with it because I didn't know about it in time. I felt SOO bad it looked like tons of fun.

[candid owl]

Why are you asking us? Go ask Dice

[deft kelp]

There was sheild already

[spare socket]

no idea tbh. There is the cover the support can place tho

[summer cobalt]

... y'know I kinda wish they wouldn't do attachments on the whole and just stick to, say, different scopes and a laser sight

[zealous shore]

I mean a shield you actively use not the one you put down

[spare socket]

I think they're talking about a more mobile shield for breaching

[candid owl]

Go play call of duty if you want that

[spare socket]

the assault might get it at launch or post launch. we dunno

[zealous shore]

I don't that's why I'm asking

[candid owl]

Go google it

[zealous shore]

I've seen dozers in 2042

[valid drift]

Need incentives to keep people playing X)

[summer cobalt]

That's what skins are for 😛

[spare socket]

here one second let me show you the power of the other lmg. A friend showed me this after the beta ended and I felt SO BAD

[strange rose]

you got vid?

[candid owl]

It’s supposed to be a fun game. It shouldn’t need incentives to play.

[deft kelp]

Oh a ballistic shield well maybe they would make it for br i guess in battlefield

[summer cobalt]

Though I liked how BF1 just had a few different configurations for each weapon.

With attachments it feels like you eventually just get "a meta" and then everyone adopts "the meta" and then that's it.

[deft kelp]

Since bf 4 had they could bring it back

[zealous shore]

On 2042 it makes cqc situations really tense but whacking people with a shield and them flopping over and dying is weird

[summer cobalt]

See also: Literally every gun in BF3 becoming a foregrip+heavy barrel combo

[spare socket]

tryna find it

[strange rose]

Gotcha

[candid owl]

DaveGames wanted me to let everyone know he got muted for 2 days

[spare socket]

https://youtube.com/shorts/brziUPplubs?si=O9UIlypaWzaD3puf ig this is close enough @valid drift @strange rose

50 damage headshots, next to no recoil, long range scope

good for long range engagements, you can skill diff up close with 2 headshots or proper engagement etiquitte.

[strange rose]

o dang, i wonder if it's getting a nerf

[spare socket]

It's a very particular playstyle

up close you need to be extremely careful

[strange rose]

the guys says the recoil glitch, is he referring to the less recoil for controller users?

[spare socket]

like if you get rushed by a shot gun or smg it's most likely over for you unless you're smart about the engagement

[deft kelp]

Though it honestly suprised me battlefield 6 was casual for me than competitive

[spare socket]

idk about that. Just ignore that tbh.

it's not a glitch controller just has less recoil than mnk

[strange rose]

yeah i thought that

[candid owl]

I wish we could put the female soldiers in bikinis

[strange rose]

lmao

for tactical reasons, of course?

[vestal canopy]

that would very much increase the immersion

[deft kelp]

Well you can if you work for EA ,🤣

[strange rose]

Totalfps is here, you could ask him nicely

[vestal canopy]

maybe they will give us a jennifer lopez skin at the same time

[tawdry temple]

Smith on his best behaviour right now I see

[deft kelp]

But they really took a jab at cod saying minaj 💀

[strange rose]

lopez demands more respect than minaj

[candid owl]

I’m a good boy

[tawdry temple]

Ofc you are!

[vestal canopy]

at least jennifer lopez had a good song or two

[strange rose]

oh yeah? Name 3

[vestal canopy]

i cant remember 😄

[strange rose]

smh

[vestal canopy]

but she had a long career

[candid owl]

All the single ladies all the single ladies

[velvet bridge]

you have some news about battel royale mod ?

[deft kelp]

Well they were saying they will bring it on oct 10 when game release i think

Since the Phantom edition have br skip able tokens

[wheat vapor]

yeah I wonder if the phantom edition is worth it

[pallid sequoia]

i need to play BF BR test mode 😭

[deft kelp]

Well if you are a br player then yes

[wheat vapor]

not sure. We'll see I suppose

[deft kelp]

Since you get double xp boost and br tokens that's all good for phantom edition if you are regular mp player then going standard is good

[wheat vapor]

what are the BR tokens exactly

[crimson gate]

Can we please change the tier 1 mastery badge the black and red is so ugly

[deft kelp]

Its just like to skip br tier like they do In cod

[deft kelp]

Mostly known pro tokens

[wheat vapor]

maybe worth it

[crimson gate]

They are bp tokens not br. As in battle pass

[deft kelp]

If you are a br player then yes

[pallid sequoia]

have date to start BR test? for labs community?

[deft kelp]

Yeah my bad lol bp tokens i meant 🤣

[wheat vapor]

its all good thanks for informing me

[spare socket]

I am very curious to see how this BR turns out

Cuz the last BR Vince lead honestly had some features that feel mainstay in the genre now. Ie apex legends. (which at launch was quite good, after Vince left to work on battlefield among other things the game became kinda horrendous without his leadership)

[deft kelp]

Hope they won't do same mistake they did with bf 5

[spare socket]

I'm not personally a fan of BR at all but I do want a game mode to help get my friends into BF yk

Some of them at least (others already love BF)

[pine hinge]

So the devs will make two separate playlist open weapons and closed weapons for classes?

[spare socket]

No joke all my hopium points are basically put into one person who is effectively the jesus of post 2000s FPS games.

Thank the lord he's leading bf6's development

[solar nimbus]

True for probably tens of thousands more people

[spare socket]

I feel like so many people don't even realize the extensive effects of Vince on the shooter industry ngl

[solar nimbus]

So much lost potential in 2042 when it came to lore so im hoping BF6 gets the attention it deserves for the campaign

[deft kelp]

Though i am curious how they will do it this time

[spare socket]

true.

Vince has always had a knack for creating/promoting innovative mechanics in any project he works on

like brother helped invent the ping system which is basically standard in any shooter now

[deft kelp]

And honestly I am surprised they showed us the trailer of portal mode

[spare socket]

just curious would you guys be interested in hearing the full history of vince's effect on the shooter industry?

[spare socket]

it's a long post that basically reaches the character limit so if enough people are interested I'll post it

[spare socket]

just upvote or downvote this message if you'd be interested in seeing said message post or not. I don't wanna flood the chat without permission.

[tight prism]

I think that is the current plan.

[spare socket]

There is hope as Vince has moved on to work with Dice on battlefield. He lead the creation of battlefield portal in 2042 and only portal (had no further control on bf 2042’s development). Due to his history in the shooter genre and stake at EA/respawn as Respawn's CEO he's been tasked to lead bf6's development.

That's basically Vince's overall effect on the shooter industry.

[wheat vapor]

Vince hasn't released a dud

[spare socket]

yep

[spare socket]

now post launch after he's moved on... apex uhhhh

Yeah I don't blame him EA was railing respawn. It got so bad that brother isn't even working on his studio rn.

[wheat vapor]

can't be responsible for who's left in chrage behind him.

[deft kelp]

Ngl I did enjoy playing titanfall 2

[spare socket]

Like bro how can EA take a perfectly good high quality studio like Respawn

and absolutely demolish it ☠️

[alpine elbow]

Sounds like Vince is good at leading, but not good with money hungry corporations.... got it.

[spare socket]

titanfall 3 was set to release late 2026 and early 2027 and EA literally canned that shizz and laid off 100 employees

[spare socket]

basically. as long as he's leading the project. It's safe. The moment executives come in... stuff can hit the fan.

[alpine elbow]

You mean "Above" him

[spare socket]

I'm praying he sticks around for bf6's post launch

that's all I ask man

[alpine elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/vincent-gif-4983399

[deft kelp]

Yeah I heard that

[spare socket]

I'm slightly wrong (I forgot) they laid off 400 employees

100 at respawn in particular.

EA just absolutely baffles me bro. You're given such good talent and quality material and squander it.

I wish that titanfall 2 just released at a different time frame.

If it didn't release literally in between one of their own flagship titles (bf1) and their competitor copying their own IP (COD infinite warfare) it would have been so much more successful and warrant a sequel

[willow otter]

New - GeForce Game Ready Driver: Version: 581.08 Released: Tuesday 19th August, 2025

[hidden carbon]

Nice! I liked Medal of Honor also

[alpine elbow]

Nothing will ever touch MOHAA

[deft kelp]

mostly nowadays games are just quick money grab to be honest

[spare socket]

ye medal of honor allied assault was so peak for its time man

[hidden carbon]

Wow so the guy is good

[spare socket]

genuinely every title Vince has worked on bro just wants to promote innovation and vision in his games with his team.

[tame geyser]

Will they game have large maps like bf4..

[hidden carbon]

"Talent is a propensity for a near perfect performance" - Professional patterns of management 1980 lol

[spare socket]

like I'm being dead serious almost every title bro has made I go: dang how have we never had that in a shooter before.

Even small features you'd not notice

[short peak]

Yall ran out of things to complain about and moved onto color filters eh

[spare socket]

like bf6 has drag to revive which sounds so small but you're like man.... how has this never been in any shooter ever.

[hidden carbon]

Also the Portal maps in 2042 were significantly better than vanilla maps

[spare socket]

ye

he had full control over the portal side of things for 2042 (literally the only innovative part of bf2042 tbh)

tbh if bf6's portal can get to the degree of halo infinite's forge man

[hidden carbon]

"want to play (Arica Harbor) again?", "Is it going to be this map again?""no""no"

[spare socket]

we might be cooking with genuinely infinite bf6 content of a high caliber

[hidden carbon]

Lol

[spare socket]

it sucks that halo infinite released the way it did tbh

after all the post launch content it's a pretty good game now but that doesn't really matter. It's like 4 years too late

https://youtu.be/paRLZCwnRC8?si=1kU0mKApIhRgoeRv like look at this shizz man

[hidden carbon]

I think the YouTube reviewers hit the nail on the head with Halo Infinite. Good but why play? Campaign wasn't satisfactory

[spare socket]

completely made by players btw with forge.

[spare socket]

The campaign was rushed because executives wanted the open world format and last gen consoles. Both of those ideas should've been scrapped imo.

the game as a whole had so much technical debt which made content additions near impossible otherwise it could risk breaking the entire game

[spare socket]

they literally spent 2 and a half years trying to fix this issue alone to get proper content added to the game

[hidden carbon]

: (

[spare socket]

even microsoft's hiring practices didn't help. They hired a lot of temp employees which made hiring replacements hard cuz they would have to relearn the engine and its quirks all over again.

[wheat vapor]

no I don't.

[hidden carbon]

"they hired a COD developer to make Battlefield" is all I heard previously lol

[spare socket]

correction the cod developer

[hidden carbon]

Games been sucking lately >.<

I see that

[spare socket]

I'd recommend checking this in more depth

[hidden carbon]

I just need Battlefield, so I wanted to play this anyways

Yeah, wow, nice. I'm glad the developer is talented

[spare socket]

Like practically a third of battlefield bad company 2's development team was contributed by the best of the best at infinity ward

[hidden carbon]

It was so fun lol

[spare socket]

Some of the best developers at both activision's team at infinity ward and EA's team of dice contributed to that game.

[hidden carbon]

"GRENADA BRA TECHNICA!" - RU hand grenade toss lol

[spare socket]

I don't think there will ever be a game like bad company 2 again for some time cuz that was a once in a life time moment because Activision were being a bunch of greedy pieces of garbage.

[hidden carbon]

Between BFBC2 and BF3, my buddies would only want to play Bad Company 2

[spare socket]

Rush in bad company 2 was unmatched

[hidden carbon]

Conquest lol

[spare socket]

I kinda preferred conquest in 3 personally

But the destruction in bad company 2 was kinda nuts

[hidden carbon]

<.< Only Conquest

[spare socket]

I long for bad company 2 again

but EA removed it off of flipping steam man

[hidden carbon]

Yeah but I think BF6 may surpass all the previous ones

[prisma halo]

You cannot buy it anymore but if you already own it, you can still download it

[hidden carbon]

I got like 600hrs in BC2, I'm good on it lol

12v12 conquest

[spare socket]

it's tough tbh

Each of the entries in the franchise did some crazy good stuff

but I think with the right changes with the beta feedback it might just hit the nail on the head.

[hidden carbon]

Lol

[spare socket]

bf4 dlc is probably some of the best ever and did the best levolution. It also had the best larger scale maps imo

bad company 2 had the most insane destruction and the best rush

Bf3 had the overall best sandbox and maps for the modern aesthetic

and Bf1 put all its mechanics, maps, and overall sandbox/aesthetic into its time period that it created probably the most unique modern battlefield experience

[hidden carbon]

Okay

I liked Hardline somewhat too

Activate lightbar

[tight prism]

Sad they abandoned it after launch

[hidden carbon]

Lol

[spare socket]

Hardline is cool but whenever I played it my brain always kinda said 2 things.
1: I kinda wish this was a dlc for battelfield 4 so it wasn't dead
2: I feel like I could just play payday 2. A lot of the elements of hardline feel like it was trying to copy payday's innovations.

[tight prism]

Would’ve liked to see operation firestorm but at least we’re getting it back in BF6

[spare socket]

I'm praying that bf6's portal is more extensive

If it gives enough features and customization it can genuinely create some insane map experiences

[spare socket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paRLZCwnRC8 for example. This is what halo infinite's forge is capable of.

[tight prism]

Yeah there are endless possibilities, granted they give us the tools to do so

[spare socket]

it's like 3 years too late but still. The fact this is entirely fan made content and only a fraction of the content in that game mode is insane.

[tight prism]

Reminds me a lot of Far Cry 5’s map editor

Tbh cod should have the same forge mode

[muted ridge]

Far cry 5 mentioned 🔥🔥

[tight prism]

Goated game

[spare socket]

It actually has a lot more. You can literally create whole aesthetics, game modes, program ai into your modes, use campaign enemies, bind mechanics into your game, have a button literally trigger new features you can code into the forge mode, etc

[hidden carbon]

Far cry 3 was okay

[tight prism]

That’s cool

[spare socket]

halo infinite forge is literally the most custom developer made tool for players to create custom content in

[hidden carbon]

"I want to sound like Ryan Seacrest" - Farcry 3 radio lol

[spare socket]

and it's such a crime that it's 3 years late. If it came out at launch it would have broke the internet imo

[spiral pelican]

CODFIELD 6

[tight prism]

Yeah if BF6 Portal has similar capabilities it’ll be alive for a long time. Unlike Bf 2042 which is probably gonna die after BF6 comes out

[spare socket]

thankfully

[tight prism]

I just want that Chinese Engineer skin man

[zenith sparrow]

So 10 sep is release?

[hidden carbon]

But 2042 is in Gamepads

[muted ridge]

Praise the Lord bro

[hidden carbon]

Game Pass*

[tight prism]

2042 portal is better than the actual game lmao

[muted ridge]

They should've brought back the US Support guy as an unlockable skin

[muted ridge]

That says a whole lot

[tight prism]

Or the Bf4 US Assault skin

All the factions had drip

[spare socket]

tbf it's because it was made by an entirely different team

[visual compass]

I hope that portal will not be like in 2024. Portal is one of the best ideas. But if we players can't unlock weapons, essays, gadgets, etc., what's that all about?

[muted ridge]

Would it be insane to say that the Russian Recon guy was the coolest recon skin

Imagine if they let you customize it to where you could take the hood off and put his hat on backwards

[empty ibex]

Battlefield should do one more open beta because it was fire

[sacred cedar]

Hope they solve the xp farm issues in bf6

[spare socket]

if you're curious about the current head of bf6 and creator of bf 2042 portal (and frankly the number 1 reason I have any confidence in bf6 at all tbh)

I recommend checking this out you might find it interesting @tight prism

[tight prism]

Thank god for the servers where you fly to the objectives cuz I’m not about to play this god awful Bf 2042

[spare socket]

dude is basically the equivalent of shooter jesus

[visual compass]

Battlefield's portal server is currently being classified as a full xp if people only do flag-runs. But as soon as AI is in the game, nothing counts anymore.

[severe pollen]

Hey guys. Out of topic question. My PS Plus subscription expired recently. During Black Friday, will I qualify for the 30% discount that’s usually advertised for new members, or will I be considered an existing user and only get the smaller upgrade/renewal offers?

[muted ridge]

Ngl the Russian Engineer was probably the worst engineer model in bf4, that doesn't mean it was bad btw

[spare socket]

no idea check the playstation site and TOS regarding this

[tight prism]

Yeah seems like BF6 has competent leadership this time around. I mean back in 2042 they considered a scoreboard a “legacy” feature

[spare socket]

which is insane ☠️

[hidden carbon]

Talent is capacity for near perfect performance lol. But yeah I think he's doing it again talentedly

[tight prism]

I mean seeing how many points you have should be a given feature but what do I know

[deft kelp]

No, you likely will not qualify for the new member 30% discount if your PlayStation Plus subscription expired recently

[tight prism]

The worst Bf4 character model is better than any of the 2042 specialists

[spare socket]

this is true

[tawdry temple]

@vocal sedge My sweet buttercupcake, remind me what was your kpm in bf2042 again

[deft kelp]

Its for members who have never buyed ps plus

[severe pollen]

one internet its showing i will get qualify under "new members" category as my subscription was expired at the time sale was running

[spare socket]

And that's my queue to leave ig

I gtg do some practice problems for a 6 hour long exam anyways.

[tight prism]

Real

[hidden carbon]

Good luck

So I melee'd a paint can in BF6 beta and red paint splashed everywhere lol

[rustic merlin]

I’d argue Dozer is the only cool looking specialist

[deft kelp]

Though to to honest nowdays ps plus monthly game ain't that good

[hidden carbon]

Angel's my dude lol

But yeah, I don't think 2043 is a good enough game to sit and reminisce about. I want BF 6 LOL

[gritty garnet]

After playing 2042 for the past two days to get the BF6 rewards I have lost my soul and dont remember who I once was

[hidden carbon]

Ha ha ha

[deft kelp]

Well i already have 3 bf 6 skins without playing bf 2042

Operator skins

[gritty garnet]

you mean the twitch ones?

[deft kelp]

Nah in the bf 6 beta

[gritty garnet]

I thought there was only 2 skins in the beta? the one for recon and the level 15 one

[deft kelp]

And one for the playstation users

[hidden carbon]

And weapon skin

[gritty garnet]

im salty asf about that as a pc player it looks dope as hell too lol

[deft kelp]

And thankfully we also had double xp boost

[hidden carbon]

Yeah but I'm not too big into the all-black skins

[proper thorn]

Guys I would like to know If there will be Labs test in near future and can I join test?

[hidden carbon]

I want that Army regular

[gritty garnet]

apply to bf labs and youll find out if they email you

[spiral pelican]

CODFIELD 6

[proper thorn]

Thanks! Are there ongoing tests?

[gritty garnet]

copium

pretty sure they closed apps for it for now actually

[sacred cedar]

Battlefield 6

[wanton swift]

Good game

[sacred cedar]

Black ops 7

[gritty garnet]

Had the pleasure of playing this, good game 👍

[deft zephyr]

DICE, please move the free battle pass from 2042 to BF4 🙏

[fallen geode]

Is beta out now

[torpid cosmos]

beta ended over a week ago

[fallen geode]

Why are people in beta vc

[south prairie]

The battlepass and 2042 being $3 still doesn't make it worth buying and playing just for the pass conent.

[deft zephyr]

2042 is lowkey making me depressive 🙂

[fallen geode]

Because people are in bf6 room vc rn

[boreal monolith]

because they can

[fallow merlin]

same but need the rewards tbh

[fallen geode]

Not helping

[fallow merlin]

i still hope they manage to not fcuk this game up

[boreal monolith]

I mean....thats what it is

[marble trench]

I Now have depresión can‘t wait more for 10th October

[boreal monolith]

for the BR

[dark sparrow]

Play hardcore

[fallen geode]

Oh ok

[reef mist]

You sure? It's a lot of fun

[gritty garnet]

its starts to become fun when you start to lose yourself

[south prairie]

ya Im sure.

[spare socket]

I've realized it is likely more sane to simply drop 20-40 dollars on bf6 cosmetics than play 2042 for free skins

for some people.

think about it this way. On your dying day would you be willing to spend 20-40 dollars for 30-60 hours more to live.

I certainly would (unless you enjoy 2042 ofc which in that case, game on ig)

[boreal monolith]

Gonna be the same guy asking how people have different skins on launch lol

[fleet bone]

Atleast we don’t get the robot skins like in other games (hopefully)

[reef mist]

Fr if bf6 sticks to its guns about modern military skins I'll play it forevaaaaa

[tropic spoke]

2042 for the most part did although it did get freaky at times but nowhere near CoD's scale of freaky

[hallow geode]

Low-key when you unlock the F2000 in the free pass for 2042 the game automatically becomes more fun

[tropic spoke]

when are they gonna include the secret unlock that means we can get early access to Battlefield 2143 😭

[hallow geode]

If that includes naval combat then I'm in

[tropic spoke]

Naval Combat and Night Operations must return in BF6 though

If they know that BF3/BF4 are the pinnacle of the franchise, they need to know its whole package

Bring back Gulf of Oman, Dragon Valley and Strike at Karkand too

[hallow geode]

Land, air and Sea. Don't know why they'd ever cut a portion of that perfect mix of warfare

[tropic spoke]

I also want vehicles to spawn on the map, i like running around waiting for my tank to spawn

I think 2042 took this away cus i have never seen vehicles spawn on the map outside of the selection screen for the vehicle other than Portal, i could be wrong but in all my hours of playing, never seen that feature in the main game

[hallow geode]

Iwo jima feels fucking awful without vehicles spawning on the map. It's so massive that I often redeploy because there's just no vehicle anywhere near me. It's miserable

[tropic spoke]

yeah its anonying they didnt consider that important feature for the game, BF6 MUST have it lol

[hallow geode]

I believe BF6 does have it for tanks and stuff. Saw them spawn at capture points in the beta

[tropic spoke]

yeah i didnt do much vehicle combat in BF6's beta so i didnt notice but if it has it then that's good

[worthy pilot]

crazy

[spiral pelican]

CODFIELD 6

[toxic flame]

ragebait

[kind spear]

Im bored

[hallow geode]

Maybe the reason it's taking so long to get naval combat back is because the community hasn't requested a naval map remake. We need to collectively ask for the best naval map to come back. Which is it operation mortar? Paracel storm?

Flood zone?

[misty vapor]

I would say gulf of oman for some good naval combat

[hallow geode]

Why do I not remember that map having naval combat.... were boats in the BF4 version too?

I always remember gulf as just fighting on land

Am I a fake BF4 player?

[sudden prism]

naval warefare

[misty vapor]

had the aircraft carrier for one of the spawns

[hallow geode]

Oh yeah that's right

[spark condor]

Heligoland Bight.

:3

[fair trench]

If only the battledfield 6 pre order got a steep discount
https://i.imgur.com/6zWBINx.png

[hallow geode]

Well part of it is at a steep discount...... The BR part

[prisma oriole]

is there website for weekend 2 beta stats?

[misty vapor]

https://www.ea.com/en/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/player-stats

its been up for a little while now

[gilded solstice]

Battlefield 6

[prisma oriole]

thanks, I wasnt aware

[spiral pelican]

CODFIELD 6

[modern copper]

2042 STILL A BETA? THIS IS TRASH.

[cobalt basalt]

The hate for BO7 is a bit overblown imo ppl gotta chill

I’m happy we getting both games this year

[short peak]

The loud minority have a superiority complex it's annoying but oh well

[cobalt basalt]

FPS players eating good

Its quite unnecessary indeed

[tender cape]

Nah it's way better than cod in every single aspect

[cobalt basalt]

Cause if you hate it so much just ignore it, but 46 million views

[deft zephyr]

I just gave hardcore a try, it's actually quite fun

[hallow geode]

It is but it's also not fair to be mad at the hate. Give BF a rare win pls. Ya'll can have your cod every other year

[short peak]

Buddy battlefield has been successful every year of its release lmao

[cobalt basalt]

Except 2042 maybe

[hallow geode]

????

[cobalt basalt]

He meant CoD

[short peak]

Sold 4.23 million units in its first week, you wanna tell me that's not good ?

[tender cape]

That's valid until bf1, the rest didn't deliver

[echo dock]

good for shareholders

[hallow geode]

You got any refund stats there? No?

[tender cape]

Yeah they got scammed

[cobalt basalt]

If it was call of duty 2042 it would’ve probably been successful

[short peak]

No neither do you, one of us has data the other is crying with headcanon

[hallow geode]

Retention is much more important than initial sales.

[echo dock]

tbf bf2042 launch was a shitshow with how buggy it was theres no if buts or maybes about it.

its in a much better state now ofc

[cobalt basalt]

And that’s why I’m saying BF needs a good progression system AND IT DOESN’T HAVE THAT

[short peak]

Move the goalpost all you like the initial claim is that it was successful, we can argue about what that means all day

[hidden carbon]

"Mr. McGee, 'don't make me angry'" - radio lol

[spiral pelican]

AGRRED BUT ITS STILL CODFIELD 6

[echo dock]

What would you propose as a potential progression system

[cobalt basalt]

I’m just gonna say a bunch of CoD things and then get tomatoes thrown at me

[cobalt basalt]

But like weapon prestige and stuff

[placid narwhal]

Cope that battlefield 6 is better than any cod that came out in the past 6 years

[short peak]

Battlefields progression is that people play it for fun, I don't agree with the idea that long term progression means long term players

[echo dock]

So like standard levelling system tied to weapon attachments and then prestige at lvl 50 type of thing?

[frank dust]

Idk what to do while I wait for battlefield 6. This is awful.

[hallow geode]

Talking about moving goalposts. In other words you can't stand your precious COD getting argued about so every further argument will result in "Yep keep talking all you want we can do this all day". I ain't gonna continue if you like cod that much. Fair enough lol. Never said you couldn't like it. Enjoy! 👍

[cobalt basalt]

Yes but something longer since BF doesn’t release every year

[signal jetty]

I can’t wait to create real-world accurate setups for BF6 like with British Soldiers using the L85A3 and Americans running the M4A1 or XM8

[cobalt basalt]

Why is there a pregnant man emoji😭

[spiral pelican]

CODFIELD 6 WORST BATTLEFIELD IN 6 YEARS

[signal jetty]

Gender inclusive

[signal jetty]

Stop yelling

[tender cape]

Facts

[echo dock]

Thats a fair system although for me personally I never really played bf to progress I always just wanted the chaos and fighting. whether I had a basic ass rifle or smth with tons of attachments it didnt really make much difference. For me bf is an experience and CoD is more of a meat grinder type game and thats why the CoD progression works.

[cobalt basalt]

0/10 ragebait get employed immediately

[craggy tapir]

That's not even really a CoD specific system anymore. A bunch of other games have taken it and made changes like Titanfall 2

[warm stream]

**Okay thats enough of that, let's move it on please #rules **

[echo dock]

Yeah it isnt the most unique system, used by tons of games.

[tender cape]

Ah it's the streamers cult

[signal jetty]

Are you going to play BF6?

[warm stream]

I said move it on. If I have to ask it again you'll be getting timed out

[echo dock]

Just time him out hes high on copium or smth

[short peak]

I think if battlefield adopted it it would be worse than a lot of other systems

[sudden wedge]

No one talking about it now?

[short peak]

He deleted the messages lol

[craggy tapir]

Never realized that admins don't have different colored names. Neat

[cobalt basalt]

Tbh it’ll be nice to juggle between the two. I personally love unlocking camos for all my weapons then look back at it. Makes me try all the weapons and build a collection

[short peak]

I don't agree that games need a long term progression system

[echo dock]

potentially, id assume that the devs have done their research on it to find what fits properly for them.

[sudden wedge]

It’s like cops hiding in side streets monitoring speeds lol

[short peak]

Yeah and that is that it takes longer to hit max level

[normal echo]

IMO we should be arguing endlessly about more important topics, like how closed weapons is the one true path, and anyone opposed is a heratic

[long bolt]

we shall see

[cobalt basalt]

Any huge game rn has a solid progression system, whether that be GTA or CoD or Fortnite or Minecraft

[rustic tendon]

Nah, closed weapons is alright, give it a game mode entirely while keeping the open weapons on the regular gamea

[frank dust]

47 days until Battlefield 6.

[echo dock]

I think having that kind of system there for the people the people that want it is good and for people like me that dont really care for a diamond AK-47 for example i can just go run some basic stuff lol

[echo dock]

Slaughter the heretics brother...

[worthy pilot]

no reason for closed besides nostalgia

[craggy tapir]

It's arguable that larger goals like progression systems, BPs, and weekly challenges have degraded how much winning a game means

Like, a lot of the time people will be solely focusing on clearing a challenge or special goal instead of focusing on trying to win

[echo dock]

respawn beacon and lmg shouldnt exist

[craggy tapir]

The Hardline system lol

[worthy pilot]

i mean i dont play lmgs but why hate on them beacons

[craggy tapir]

It was neat, but LMGs are pretty critical to Support's identity

(Iirc Support got a riot shield in HL to make up for it being taken away)

[short peak]

Yep, that's one thing I really like about battlefield is that it hasn't adopted some stupid long term progression metric, and I think it works well for them, like I said long term progression does NOT equal long term players

[normal echo]

I'm still bitter my "assault recon" (recon with carbine) loadout that plays frontline/flanks is losing the deploy beacon to the already most overplayed class

[hallow geode]

I noticed angry Joe's BFV review on YouTube that has 3 million views has a section where they say they think classes should have every single weapon available to them. I think DICE were one of the 3 million people that watched that video.

[spiral pelican]

REMOVE REVIVING, slide is too slow, classes are dumb, we need the main mode to be 0 vehicles in a small map

[echo dock]

As in the combo shouldnt be possible, being able to place a respawn beacon and charge into the backlines of a team with an assault rifle or something is kinda silly

[worthy pilot]

yet beacon is way better used for the assault class

[echo dock]

Do you even like battlefield as a franchise or do you just yearn for attention online.

[misty vapor]

one thing i wish LMGs would do more after launch is supress a bit more to help against snipers in the distance

[cobalt basalt]

What do you get for winning the game tho😢

[craggy tapir]

Replace all the vehicles with Titans so we can finally have Titanfall 3

Also crank up the speed 10x so we can have the true pilot feeling

[hallow geode]

Standard ragebait

[echo dock]

better used yes because its very powerful.

[normal echo]

not sure how feasible it would be, but some kind of suppression bonus for lmgs might be interesting to test

[spiral pelican]

Depends on the BATTLEPASS and BATTLE ROYALE

[warm stream]

I won't ask again. The bait is getting old. Move it on

[craggy tapir]

What do you get for unlocking 10 camos that you will never use?

[worthy pilot]

well ofc. i mean i never did snipe with recon, always were in the front and the beacon was super usefull, unlike the snipers with their beacons in the back. i welcome the change

[short peak]

Lungebomb finally put to rest

[short peak]

I played m4 recon I liked using it to push forward

[cobalt basalt]

Who says I will never use them? Every time boot up an old CoD and see my sexy diamond camo I leak a little

[normal echo]

I'm just worried it's taking away the biggest squad utility of the already least played class and giving it to the already most played class

[cobalt basalt]

Cause I worked hard for that shi no CAP

[worthy pilot]

well recon is half an engi now. idk how i like that tbh :D they got c4 which is fun, but why they got slams now? seems a bit much anti vic

[craggy tapir]

The diamond one, yeah. But what about the 10 other camos on that same gun?

[short peak]

Recon always had c4

[misty vapor]

i remember in older titles like in bf3/4 the suppression would really help against snipers by blurring the screen and making it slightly harder to hit a shot on target and it actaully felt quite balanced back then

[echo dock]

The change is good, I like the style of play dont get me wrong I just think classes should be limited to some extent. Example the sniper should have access to not only snipers but things like DMRs weapons that can be used at closer ranges than a typical sniper to allow for that kind of solo play. Then if your squad works together they can spawn on your beacon and make the push way easier. for me its about not awarding complete and utter solo play

[worthy pilot]

ye but why they got slams

[short peak]

Idk maybe to give them more than a 10% pick rate

[cobalt basalt]

Those are filler, who tf is working towards em? They’re just a bonus on the way to getting gold, diamond or dark matter

[spiral pelican]

glad we all agree the current class gadget balance is piss

[worthy pilot]

i dont think damn slams that werent used before will make the difference :D

[normal echo]

just like 100% trying to troll/ragebait eh?

[spiral pelican]

easy fix is seperate the support bag into heals for assault and lmg retains ammo bearing role, just remove stims

[short peak]

Fine with me tbh

[spiral pelican]

Stims are literally codfield

[cobalt basalt]

We want BF battle Royale who’s with me 🔥 🙏 🔥🔥☄️

[spiral pelican]

Enhanced footstep sound 😂🤡

[cobalt basalt]

battlefield warzone gotta be the stupisef thing I’ve ever heard

[worthy pilot]

ye thats one point for closed and to enjoy the stuff better. my point for open classes out of enjoyment is, that i can play whatever i want and still fullfill my role. i wanna play support and dont wanna do lmgs. so i can run ar for example. the carabines are fun and good but how will they perform on bigger maps? i would guess worse than ar´s, so its nice to get some varity in. i mean i usually play all weapons to some extend and if i have to switch classes for that, that would be pretty lame and not motivating

[spiral pelican]

tell me this balance isnt better

assault - new medic nd remove stim
support - lmg and ammo
engi - no change
recon - no change

[short peak]

You did just suggest long term progression similar to prestige for battlefield so I wouldn't be so sure

[worthy pilot]

just play old games then

[cobalt basalt]

What does warzone have to do with that? Good progression existed for years before warzone 😭

[craggy tapir]

Fair. I understand the whole concept behind the unlocking system and see why people enjoy it. I can also see how it degrades the impact of each individual match though. Without the bigger macro goal, winning each match becomes the biggest goal. It makes every match feel unique and impactful instead of mindlessly going through 50 matches to unlock something

There is going to be some progression system no matter what because EA. It's just neat to think about how it felt like before every game had to have a Progression system and a BP

[magic quartz]

I loved how in the open playlist you could get destroyed on Liberation Peak because there were squads of Support on the mountains with supply crates, defibs, barricades, and snipers.

And with the respawn beacon being stripped from Recon, you won't need to worry about them staying up there that much in the closed weapons

[short peak]

It was related to your "stupidest thing I've heard" not the warzone

[echo dock]

On closed weapon though it doesnt limit a class to just one type of weapon, Supports in closed weapon can still use SMGs ARs etc but they cant use snipers the only downside to not using an LMG on support is you dont get the proficiency perk of being more stable when crouched or proned. By the sounds of it your style of play and customisation is possible on closed weapon.

[normal echo]

to be fair, there is actually a counter to that.... recon headshot sniper kills dont let you get rezzed if i remember right

[hallow geode]

Even in open weapons playlist it just feels illegal to run anything but recon when I equip a sniper. I've never used a sniper on another class. It just feels wrong

[craggy tapir]

Yeah. Iirc it's like level 2 in the recon perk tree

[normal echo]

though, they would ofc just deploy beacon back to that spot within 5 seconds

[magic quartz]

Assuming you can get a shot off before all those snipers on the mountain turn you into a pin cushion

[bright blaze]

Ngl now that I think about it, rush being a 16 player mode makes it significantly better. Idk what people were complaining about. Devs made the right choicew

[cobalt basalt]

I’m hoping BF comes up with progression to match the gameplay of BF, like progression and rewards for playing the objective and as a team. In CoD it’s more selfish so nobody plays objective cause it’s all about headshot kills etc

[worthy pilot]

as far as i know closed weapon means lmg only (and weapons everyone gets) for support

[craggy tapir]

That would actually be perfect, yeah. There should be at least some selfish stuff but the majority should be based around PTFO and working with your team

[hallow geode]

I'm not sure I understand what kind of progression you guys are asking for? 2042 was shit but I thought the tier 1 grind was good and unlocking weapons and attachments felt good

[rocky granite]

Oi BOYS, 'Ow we doin innnit?

[normal echo]

I mean there was a TOOOOOOOOOON of that on beta as well, lots of people trying to farm Kills off on their own for their twitch channel clips or whatnot

[magic quartz]

I feel that. But, from what I played open weapon playlists were the most selfish non-teamwork focused ones. People kitted their loadouts for maximum K/D potential.

[worthy pilot]

that rarely happens enough for it being an real issue and argument to not do open weapons. plus either way they will be annoying doesnt matter the class

[magic quartz]

Stop the cope

[cobalt basalt]

You have no reason for why it’s stupid, warzone in battlefield won’t even work well since their engine isn’t as smooth as infinity ward 9 or whatever

[worthy pilot]

it aint a cope

[magic quartz]

Happened every match

[echo dock]

iirc Support was able to have ARs and SMGs too? honestly cant remember so dont take my word on that im like half asleep rn.

[worthy pilot]

happens every match that ppl snipe there ye, class doesnt matter

[craggy tapir]

That's just cause of the players themselves. A majority of people that focus on teamplay funneled into Closed so there was bound to be more teamplay regardless of the settings

[cobalt basalt]

That’s pretty bad

[worthy pilot]

well in the beta ye cuz it was open weapons

[normal echo]

good jets/choppers should be suppressing those camps in the mountain too..... most people just couldn't fly them at all because the opportunities to learn where very limited

[magic quartz]

Which is why it's a mistake to create this useless divide.

[rocky granite]

I love playing Anti Air and camping their spawn

[echo dock]

I played exclusively closed weapon conquest.

[magic quartz]

If anything open weapons should be restricted to TDM, KoTH, and other smaller game modes.

[normal echo]

game could really use a vehicle version of firing range

[magic quartz]

Keep it out of Conquest, Breakthrough, and Rush

[craggy tapir]

Eh. For now it's fine cause it allows the people who actually want to use teamplay to not be bothered too much by the solos

I can see it being an issue down the road when player count drops tho

[worthy pilot]

its the first time i hear that stuff honestly. id be fine if they lock snipers to recon but got everyone else open. and nobody every told me like " thats closed "

[hallow geode]

What do you do when everyone in a match isn't running support at all? If a headless chicken who doesn't care about the team whatsoever is running support then at least you can run up to them and grab ammo or health. Its not just about "expecting" or "hoping" in a closed weapon environment they will play their role properly. That's asking too much. Allowing an entire lobby to play recon exclusively or assault exclusively is pretty yikes

[worthy pilot]

´no they dont. mad delusion. u act like ppl were not on ego trips in older bf games with closed weapons

[echo dock]

i would be fine with keeping snipers only on recon and recon only able to use DMRs and Snipers, I dont really care about the 3 other classes having access to the multitude of other weapon types.

[worthy pilot]

then we see the same

[normal echo]

yeah.... as a primarily recon player, you can take my carbine when you pry it from my cold dead hands

[echo dock]

We see the same but want a different way of achieving it

[hallow geode]

Okay so if you have statistics that 100% of matches have never been exclusively one class in the history of games. Then I guess I have statistics that people aren't on ego trips lol

[worthy pilot]

well because what we want doesnt seem to be an option haha

[echo dock]

unfortunately 😭

[worthy pilot]

what is this.

[craggy tapir]

I honestly think the closed system is the perfect blend. It isn't even a fully closed system. It's just the class specific weapons that are locked. You can still use Shotguns, Carbines, and DMRs on every class so you can play the equivalent of an AR Recon just with a slightly worse AR

[worthy pilot]

am i missunderstanding you ? u say that closed weapons mean more teamplay ye?

[normal echo]

Wouldn't say carbines are worse ARs though, they have slightly different effective ranges

ARs are best ~10 yards further and weaker ~10 yards closer than carbines are