battlefield-6

[halcyon edge]

whats up

type here its fine were all good people

[tall zinc]

so, when you install or boot a game, or an anticheat, there is a prompt that appears that asks for admin privileges, it's called a UAC prompt, with the name of the program requesting administrator privileges, and what you will see in that is the name of the publisher (EA in this case), who has signed that executable with their certificate, this means the program has been validated and is trusted as it's a cryptographic identifier, if for whatever reason there is a breach of the anticheat, Microsoft can revoke that certificate which means if you try to boot it, it's no longer trusted by windows

[winged marten]

Everyone I was playing with was chinese so they all said ccb

Absolutely no teamwork, just ccb

[wide elbow]

its actually weird day here that chat is so civilized. not chaos 😂

[halcyon edge]

so even if there is a breach windows can still keep you safe?

[tall zinc]

yes

[halcyon edge]

w thank you bro

[tall zinc]

no worries

[digital turtle]

YESSIR 🗣️ 🔥

(I mean… kind of the bare minimum in terms of admin privileges stuff but still cool)

[wide elbow]

lol i played with them too, same exp ... "ccb" since the game starts

[halcyon edge]

i think bf6 players are civilized, idk why but something about the persona of the game is more civilized

[spiral pelican]

CODFIELD 6 NEEDS BATTLE ROYALE AND BATTLEPASS ASAP. GET RID OF THESE STUPID “CLASSES” AND JUST LET US USE WHAT WE WANT. ALSO THE SLIDE IS TOO SLOW AND ITS SO STUPID THAT THERES AN ACCURACY PENALTY FOR JUMPING. ONE MORE THING THEY SHOULD SCRAP EVERY GAME MODE WITH MORE THAN 8V8 AND ONLY USE LIKE 1/5th OF THE MAP

[spark mountain]

Couldn’t you pull it off with a DMA?

[tall zinc]

windows will also be deploying their new integration which will move anticheats out of direct kernel access, but that's a few years out

[tardy hawk]

Least obvious rage bait

[wide elbow]

chat around beta weekend wasnt ... there was lot of fight every 5 min in this chat. Fun time 😂😂

[tall zinc]

how do you mean?

[spiral pelican]

COPE OF DUTY?

[spark mountain]

Couldn’t you still bypass the anti cheat with DMA cards?

[halcyon edge]

you prob could

[digital turtle]

I’m just here

[tall zinc]

javelin cannot detect DMA devices as it does not force IOMMU to be enabled, so that traffic can't be translated, this is about in the event the anticheat is compromised, or breached in another word, not specific stuff like that

[spiral pelican]

WHATS WRONG WITH BATTLEPASS AND BATTLE ROYALE? I WANT SKINS FOR MY AIM ASSIST

[halcyon edge]

cod players were getting mad i guess, as an og cod player these newgen crybabies can go back to play with the nicki minaj skin on nuketown 20202020202029

[spark mountain]

Do you can still cheat in BF6 even tho it has crazy good anti cheat

[nova hound]

Yea making them more mad was fun

[halcyon edge]

bro is him you actually know so much w deco

[hard niche]

I'm still watching content dunking on them

[tall zinc]

yes, of course you can, in terms of security javelin is second to vanguard in terms of how deep it penetrates, but it's not foolproof, the hardware ID ban with enforcement of chain of trust TPM is enough to ward off most folk who would be tempted as they'd need to get a new motherboard

[wide elbow]

one popular case was .. a guy went solo to whoop the tank that has engineer 2-3 on the back. ... ofc, he couldnt .. but he came to chat and say "nerf tank, too op" 😭😂

[spark mountain]

Hardware spoofers exist tho don’t they? If you use temp ones while testing cheats you could pull it off no?

[halcyon edge]

really? i heard its better than vanguard, im prob wrong tho if you say otherwise lmao

[tall zinc]

hardware spoofers don't work, TPM enforcement means it reads directly from the board and can't be intermediated or spoofed, if you're hardware ID banned that's as bad as it gets, there ARE ways to avoid that, but they're extremely technical and deep in nature and certainly not anything a casual user has any awareness of

[halcyon edge]

me in my jet looking at them as free farm: 👀

[spark mountain]

Yeah but if you’re trying to develop a cheat for a game with crazy good anti cheat you could prob find someone that can help you out

[tall zinc]

worse than, similar in execution, javelin uses a lot of stuff vanguard has, won't go into details, but it's less invasive than it because vanguard enforces things like IOMMU to detect DMA devices and javelin doesn't (as of now, they could later)

[wide elbow]

he went head on too. Not sneaky or anything ...whole chat here railed him out 😂😂

[halcyon edge]

i see, thank you sorry for bothering you that much, youre da goat

[halcyon edge]

lmao poor guy he will learn eventually

[frosty marten]

Is the BF6 Phantom Edition worth it?

[tall zinc]

of course you could, but the people who know that kind of thing are extremely specialised engineers, at least they're not going to be easy people to find in the first place, I'm going to refrain from details on that because I don't think I'm allowed to give privy on how that works

once you're talking about evading chains of trust you probably have hundreds or thousands to burn in the first place

anticheats exist to make it difficult or more expensive for users to pull them off, is the tldr

[halcyon edge]

it is also illegal to make cheats for games, you can get sued and go to jail, not worth the risk for those genius people when they can get paid a lot doing the same thing but for the company

[short musk]

I honestly don’t understand anyone who actually thinks BlackOps7 is worth buying. It looks atrocious

[spark mountain]

Imagine if VAC was a decent anti cheat

[steel sundial]

send the beekeeper

[tall zinc]

what I am allowed to say is javelin collects hardware IDs once you boot the game and those are cross matched, so you'd need to go through a hell of a lot just to do that sorta thing

[halcyon edge]

sounds like a f hard job to do ngl

[spark mountain]

They gave you a crash course on how their anti cheat works or something?

[halcyon edge]

its just not worth for these kind of people to do it instead of applying for a job that does the same but for the anti cheat not against it

[dusky crest]

Looking for friendly players message me

[hidden reef]

What’s the best portal xp farm map to grind out the battlepass

[spark mountain]

Yeah but most are hosted in places like Russia

[plucky dawn]

The comments section under the trailer on YouTube are hilarious

[frosty marten]

If you don't buy the Phantom Edition is it possible to purchase the Season 1 Battle Pass separately?

[ruby beacon]

doing my free pass on 2042 so i can get the items for bf6

[hidden reef]

What’s the best mode to grind the battlepass on

[carmine lily]

whichever you preform the best on honestly

[hidden reef]

Dawg I’m new

[clever imp]

I know walmart discounts got me 🙏 🔥

[carmine lily]

because some people do close quarters and get the most exp that way, others do tdm and that's how they do it. It's what you play, how you play, and the best of your abilities

[carmine lily]

me too, dw

[balmy peak]

Is there hope they’ll revert the class system back to BF4’s or are things locked in from here

[short peak]

Bf6 class system is fine

[carmine lily]

i think it's fine

[thick linden]

Out the feedback in here. And in the forums. They need to know you don’t like it and why if they’re going to change it

[jagged lion]

Just learned the new closest estimate for how many players the BF6 beta racked up is in the 20M range.

Jesus

[balmy peak]

I suppose but Idk

[thick linden]

In my opinion the medic role needs to be removed from the support class I don’t care if it goes to the assault or gets its own class. It just needs to be swapped, the supports isn’t able to do four jobs at once. It doesn’t work effectively or efficiently. He can’t get the people who need ammo their ammo and other people who need meds their med while providing cover fire, suppression fire, and reviving fallen teammates

[short peak]

What lol

[thick linden]

If they want to make 4 classes for the 4 squad mates instead of making 5 classes for 4 or just 5 man squads with 5 classes again. Assault and medic should be combined like bf4 or engineer and support should be combined like bf1 and 5

[spiral pelican]

CODFIELD 6 NEEDS BATTLE ROYALE AND BATTLEPASS ASAP. GET RID OF THESE STUPID “CLASSES” AND JUST LET US USE WHAT WE WANT. ALSO THE SLIDE IS TOO SLOW AND ITS SO STUPID THAT THERES AN ACCURACY PENALTY FOR JUMPING. ONE MORE THING THEY SHOULD SCRAP EVERY GAME MODE WITH MORE THAN 8V8 AND ONLY USE LIKE 1/5th OF THE MAP

[thick linden]

Huh?

[spiral pelican]

I AGREE MEDIC ROLE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED

[thick linden]

That’s not what I said. I said it needs to be taken from support and given to assault or its own class not removed from the game

[spiral pelican]

CODFIELD 6 SHOULD FOCUS ON FASTER SLIDE SPEED AND REMOVE REVIVING SO I CAN SOLO WHEN THE BATTLE ROYALE COMES OUT

[restive abyss]

heck naw 🥀

[main palm]

It's like fishing with bread, it can work but there's better bait

[tight prism]

hey can someone dm me, i’m a streamer and i need advice pls

[dusky crest]

need squad message me

[restive abyss]

I agree in a way, they should atleast give the ammo crate to another class and keep a med crate for support.

[valid glade]

Is another playtest coming out?

[restive abyss]

I think we have to wait until full release in october 🥀

[short peak]

Are we allowed to discuss leaks, I checked rules I don't see anything

[spark mountain]

Leaks of?

[delicate quartz]

besides the big section regarding leaks in the #rules channel lol

"Leaks - The sharing and discussion of leaked information will be closely monitored. There is to be no discussion of leaks that are circulating in small groups, feel like hearsay, and/or don't match known information well as no downloading/direct sharing of game footage. Players can however discuss leaks that are seen as widely available or have been covered by mainstream media sources, but this is entirely at the moderator/staff team’s discretion."

[celest nest]

Do I get any pre-order reward in 2042?

[short peak]

Oh nvm idk how the hell I missed that I think I stopped reading after the "keep the experience fun" part

[clever imp]

you get a sprite 🥀

[celest nest]

a what

[short peak]

Short attention span etc

[spark mountain]

What leak do u even have bro, some dev's left foot?

[short peak]

It's not my leaks but I'm not gonna go further into it if it's not allowed

[winged marten]

Atp if I see a ccb i assume my teammates are braindead chinese players who can't communicate and switch lobbies

And it always works

[spare socket]

wait do you get bf6 cosmetics with the 2042 pass?

[sweet walrus]

Yep

[spare socket]

dang just saw the character skins

the gas mask one looks dope 😭

but idk if I wanna flipping play 2042 man that shizz hurts my soul (mostly in the map design department)

[hazy gull]

More like the everything department

[chilly shore]

Try streaming underrated Battlefield games like Battlefield hardline

Checking the game out while waiting for Battlefield 6

[weak fossil]

I’m so bored at work even being on my phone is boring

[spare socket]

operators, destruction, and the general aesthetic... yeah...

[spare socket]

are you currently working?

[weak fossil]

I mean, I’m at work

[spare socket]

because if you have genuine downtime during work I recommend bringing a lap top to work to:
-watch a show or movie
-play some indie games
-read a book

[weak fossil]

I’ve watched every movie played every game, and read every book

[spare socket]

That's not possible ☠️

[weak fossil]

I finished browsing twitter. There’s actually an end

[spare socket]

There is in fact too much media in the modern era to consume for one productive human being

across all mediums

[weak fossil]

You underestimate my free time at work

[clever imp]

that's wild tbh

[spare socket]

I watch and read a lot I highly doubt you've watched and read everything I have ☠️

excluding twitter I don't use that shizz

[weak fossil]

The only thing I haven’t finished is discord. I’m about 80% through reading every message on every server

[spare socket]

Ah ic

[dusky crest]

lfg message me

[spare socket]

Idk why this server has a high density of extremely blockable people

[supple grail]

Am I blockable

[spare socket]

it astounds me

[spare socket]

you haven't done anything that feels genuinely trollish. The worst case I've seen so far is a dude who fed everything I said into chat gpt to make it extremely convoluted and long/spammy.

[supple grail]

Nahhh no way 😭

[spare socket]

Even after getting banned (I didn't even report them) they made an alt to continue doing this

This server has truly produced the strangest people I have met on the internet so far

[supple grail]

Discord is like 60% rage baiters 40% chill people

[spare socket]

The servers I've been in ban all the bait

The beauty of discord (and the horror frankly) is you can very easily find a bubble of people

some bubbles are morally questionable but I won't go into that nor involve myself with that.

unfortunately this server has next to no moderation which baffles me

almost every other server I've been in has practically a moderator in each channel active at some point (with rare cases where all of them are asleep)

[torpid cosmos]

Less moderated than the cod server

[spare socket]

it's crazy that this is true

I haven't even been in there

But I can imagine it being the case cuz any degree of moderation is better than this shizz lol

[torpid cosmos]

The moderation is light but still more present

[spare socket]

The moderation in this server is literally:
1 try to figure out the extremely convoluted reporting process
2 spend the time to do it
3 wait a few hours to a day

[torpid cosmos]

They mostly just watch in the background and intervene if things get too toxic

[spare socket]

there's literally no moderators active in any of the channels. At least none I've seen so far. ☠️

[tribal jungle]

Wtf is this Shit

[lilac badge]

i wish battlepass grinding was quicker

im only on level 16.5 it takes forever

[digital turtle]

hello

[tidal hound]

Just do the weekly missions and bounce. And maybe the daily 10k XP bonus

[lilac badge]

if you do weekly missions only you don't get enough levels to complete the bp

[tidal hound]

While you do the weekly missions you still get the normal played XP

So unless you're doing them all in a few games...

[tribal jungle]

• the bonus XP

[lilac badge]

i just wish it was QUICKER

[tribal jungle]

But yeah you need to play some rounds, just play CQB and support easy 30k each round without bonus XP

[tribal jungle]

Womp womp, welcome to the grind

[lilac badge]

why does it say i get like 12 bp points but i only get like 4

[tidal hound]

Like I think I only played 5-6 matches on the new BP and im lv9 BP

[tribal jungle]

What I notice, after playing the beta, the guns in 2042 feels horrible, I want the beta back

[digital turtle]

I would be interested to see operations, possibly make a comeback

[lilac badge]

do yall think theyre gonna do the multiple stories thing for the campaign again

[digital turtle]

Maybe they can even tie some slight story stuff to the gamemode

[digital turtle]

I think they’re gonna do a linear campaign like the older games

[spare socket]

my biggest main gripes with 2042 are:
the map design, the gunplay, the destruction, and the operators.

The first 3 of these were fundamentally ruined by the executives' push for 128 player battles.

the gunplay and destruction were heavily tuned down to be supportable in 128 player servers

[weak fossil]

I know what you’ve been saying about me in DMs…

[sour copper]

LOL

[digital turtle]

I’m with him in another server, this is what he usually does

[weak fossil]

I’m banished from that server

[digital turtle]

Don’t fall for his ragebait

[sour copper]

Don't you gaslight me

Team Janaher

[digital turtle]

I think I know why…

I actually don’t know, I’m guessing the moderators took one of your antics seriously and banned u?

[spare socket]

I just see
2 blocked messages --- Show

[weak fossil]

I was bullying the mods every single day lol

[native totem]

Skibidi

[spare socket]

I'm beyond confused why people give these entities attention

[lilac badge]

entities

[digital turtle]

To my understanding, it seems like that BF 2042s big maps and 128 player count… this is a theory, but I feel like that this was a part of a scrapped battle royale thingy

[sour copper]

[weak fossil]

Tell me why I just received a warning for harassment on this server. I’ve been nice to everyone 💀

[spare socket]

Maybe but I just felt like it was an executive push for scale

[digital turtle]

The EA moderator has been a bit weird?

[spare socket]

Nah the moderator is doing their job

[digital turtle]

I got warned and even muted for three days recently for some weird reason… I didn’t say anything bad to my knowledge

[spare socket]

wait is it an auto mod?

[digital turtle]

I don’t know if it was a human or bot

[spare socket]

ic

regardless said moderation is currently doing its job

[weak fossil]

Gotta be a bot I ain’t harass no one 😭💀

[spare socket]

This single server has likely contributed the most to my block profile and I've only been here for like a week (left a few times due to frustrations)

[weak fossil]

Maybe it’s a you issue

If you go outside and everyone is in a mad mood it’s probably you who’s in the bad mood

[digital turtle]

I will say this

[native totem]

Anybody playing 2042 for the BF6 cosmetics?

[sour copper]

If I go outside and everyone is an alien am I the alien?

[digital turtle]

Sorry for changing the subject here, but to my knowledge, it looks like that they’re going to be experimenting with both open and closed weapon class playlists at launch

[lilac badge]

everyone

[digital turtle]

I’ve heard no such thing of this being only a beta thing in order for them to test which playlist people like in order to permanently implement one or the other

[sand heart]

im playing 2042 cus its a fun game

[spare socket]

my thought process regarding this is:
on my death bed I would spend 20 dollars to extend my life by 12-20 hours.

I would rather spend 20 dollars to get cosmetics in bf6 that look similar/better than play 2042, personally.

[spare socket]

if that were the case they sure as hell didn't evenly implement it lol

I do wish that the team would commit to an open or closed weapon playlist

[native totem]

But the cosmetics are cool

[spare socket]

You likely will be able to purchase cosmetics of a similar caliber imo

[native totem]

Like bf4 Support Skin

[spare socket]

the gas mask skin do be kinda fire ngl.

but still I have a seething internal pain when playing 2042. And I don't wanna download that shizz again with ea play.

[weak fossil]

I spent $3 on it. Gonna try it when I get home

[tribal jungle]

Blud the game is 3$ rn ☠️

[spare socket]

If you enjoy the game. That's fair and a totally different situation.

[spare socket]

I'm saying on the cosmetics. You could effectively spend money on bf6 for cosmetics of a similar caliber.

[native totem]

2042 isn’t bad now

[spare socket]

it's better

[weak fossil]

That dude really blocked me 💀

[spare socket]

it doesn't really fix these fundamental issues for me

[native totem]

Insane

[spare socket]

I tried it again after some updates it just didn't do it for me.

[digital turtle]

This is a bit of a nitpick towards a creator, but does Act Man… not know that open weapon playlists are not the only playlist and you can play close weapons?

I mean, I get why he probably didn’t see it as much because it’s literally the last tab and it’s not like there’s any other modes for weapons either so I wouldn’t put it past them for ignoring it unintentionally

[tribal jungle]

Idk what’s wrong here, ppl are getting ragebaited so easily sometimes

[digital turtle]

It’s just that he’s making it seem like there’s only open weapon classes

[spare socket]

He's only REALLY played bf1 extensively so his exposure to the franchise isn't as much as other content creators.

[weak fossil]

I told bro I read every book on earth and he got mad because he reads a lot of books 😭

[digital turtle]

Yeah, I’m honestly part of that same bandwagon too. I only really played BF1

[willow lance]

Act Man is a typical BF1 tourist with horrible opinions. He claimed maps like Suez and Sinai are ''legendary''

[digital turtle]

lmao

[spare socket]

true

I'm PRAYING we get a propoganda remake in bf6

[willow lance]

BF1 had good desert maps too but Suez or Sinai ain't them

[digital turtle]

OK before I get jumped, I meant to say that BF 1 is my most played

I’ve played the other games in small snippets in fact, the second most played battlefield game I played was 4

[tribal jungle]

Yeah it fits the: „eeehm actually“ vibe 😂

[digital turtle]

keep in mind that just got into the games during the pandemic so I’m still new gen lol

[spare socket]

I have a few thousand hours in bf4, 3, and 1. A few hundred in bad company 2 and 2142.

some hours in bf5 and 2042 ig by technicality

[dusky crest]

LFG message me

[willow lance]

Anyone knows about how skins will work? Like if we finish 2042 BP and get skins for BF6 will they be faction locked only or faction and class locked?

[spare socket]

propoganda is easily a top 10 map in the entire franchise and it's a crime that it's kinda locked in bf4 dlc hell

sometimes you get lucky and a goat spent money on a server to host it

[digital turtle]

Speaking of maps, how would you guys feel about DLC coming back in the game?

[willow lance]

I played Propaganda recently but I am also in EU/PC so might be different in NA

[digital turtle]

I mean me personally I don’t know if that would really work in terms of the current gaming space and also the fact that I don’t want BF6 to become another BF1 situation again, where the community was heavily divided because of the DLC

[willow lance]

We won't get DLCs, BF6 will be live service

[spare socket]

bf6 has leaked live service content already in the pipeline too

So I'm a bit hopeful.

[glacial tinsel]

What’s everyone’s level in the BF2042 pass , I’ve put fucking 16 hours in to BF2042 since the pass came out and I’m only level 13 😭😭😭

[spare socket]

I won't go into detail regarding that.

[digital turtle]

Yeah, it’s to be expected

Paid DLC in terms of AAA giants, CoD and such… it’s mostly dead. They all moved to live service, the battlepasses, mostly as their main monetization strategy & also the seasons model

[weak fossil]

When Aftermath 2.0 DLC

[sand heart]

also are there going to be any non desert/urban maps

[spare socket]

would you spend 20 dollars to get back the life span you spent on the game (and will spend on the game). If so just wait for bf6 launch and buy some cosmetics. If not keep enjoying 2042.

I'll see if I can find the leaks bit and dm it to you.

[digital turtle]

Probably, I would love some winter maps, maybe up in Canada or something like that

[sand heart]

even the mountain large open map feels small

[digital turtle]

I know that this is kind of wishful, but I would love some different country variations of NATO soldiers… maybe even voice lines as well

Canada, Britain, US, Germany, maybe some of our Nordic friends…

Also, maybe seeing certain service rifles from a bunch of NATO countries

[weary tapir]

I hope to see in season one Operation Metro 😁☕️🚬

[digital turtle]

I would say France but France left NATO, apparently in the lore

[glacial tinsel]

Oh I’ll be buying cosmetics in Bf6 100% I already pre ordered the phantom edition but I got that FOMO feeling as these won’t ever be in the shop or challenges in the future lol

[winged marten]

That would be damage incorporated

[weak fossil]

🚨 Bring back commander mode so I can play on my phone 🚨

[willow lance]

I would rather see Operation 925

[spare socket]

ig the one bit these skins have is a minor flex but i'm ngl

Idrc man ☠️ I'm in dental school and my free time needs to be misered

[winged marten]

It would be like riding the lightning

[weak fossil]

Game should have stayed US vs Russia tbh

[winged marten]

Nah man i like having WW3 instead of cold war part 2

[willow lance]

I don't want to talk about politics but Russia invading US is less realistic than a random PMC invading US

[winged marten]

Us + uk + Germany vs sweden + russia + whatever seems more fun

[spiral pelican]

not buying bf until we get 256 player matches 💯

[winged marten]

I don't like the pmc idea at all though they should've made it like modern BF1 and made pax Armata like the central powers

[weak fossil]

Russia USA ans China the only relevant militaries let’s be real

[digital turtle]

I mean the PMC angle they took with Pax Armada seems a little bit interesting

[glacial tinsel]

So what nato is actually left in bf6 the USA and UK did everyone else leave ?

[winged marten]

India too

And maybe south korea

You seriously think usa russia and China will go to war with eachother without anything else happening?

[digital turtle]

NATO is not doing so hot as France in a few other nations have left in order to flee to Pax

[spare socket]

☠️

[weak fossil]

Join game. 50% of soldiers are girls
..

[digital turtle]

PAX armada is basically trying to attack these countries very hard to the point that they just end up joining their side

[winged marten]

Women are in the military. Cry about it

[lilac badge]

Called a beta for a reason bud

[weak fossil]

Infantry? Nah

Like 1% are

[digital turtle]

I used to be in a server with this guy… just saying that this is how he is lmao

[winged marten]

I've seen like 1 woman infantry soldier for 3 men on the frontlines man wtf 😭

[glacial tinsel]

Ofc France have surrendered to Pax in BF6 💀

[winged marten]

They are very common

[digital turtle]

This is probably exactly the reason you got banned from the RON discord server Dohn

[winged marten]

He seems like a clown anyways lol

[spiral pelican]

NOT BUYING BF UNLESS I CAN BUY SLIM THICK BADDIE SKINS

[weak fossil]

If you got girls on the front lines you are losing the war miserably

[winged marten]

France surrendering before WW3 even starts 😭

[digital turtle]

Anyway… I mean, it’s kind of interesting that they’re doing the PMC angle

[weak fossil]

Free speech> being a good boy on a server

[winged marten]

I kinda wished pax Armata was ex nato countries allying with Russia and China and north korea instead of a pmc

[clever imp]

france got their pax armata'd

[winged marten]

It'd also be cool having some smaller countries join the war like Japan on natos side, pakistan on pax's side, iran on pax's side, india on natos side, etc

[glacial tinsel]

France surrendered: The video game

[digital turtle]

It’s not told directly yet, but I’m pretty sure that many ex NATO allies joined Pax Armada

It’s a multinational PMC to my knowledge so they could have dudes from Africa, South America and of course from Asia and Eastern Europe

[winged marten]

That way it feels more like a world war 3 than a cod story

[glacial tinsel]

Is the only nato countries in bf6 just the USA & UK vs everyone else ?

[weak fossil]

I hope I’m just some unimportant soldier during the campaign

[winged marten]

Yeah I'm aware its the pmc part and the lack of actual country flags/militaries that upsets me

[clever imp]

they definitely adding more countries' soldiers in future seasons

[digital turtle]

I kind of wish that there would be more represented

[winged marten]

I don't think so lol

[digital turtle]

I don’t mean/want to bring politics into this, but judging by our current geopolitical state, I don’t think that would be fare too well

That’s all I’m gonna say

[spiral pelican]

WOULD TO STUPID TO FOCUS ON THIS BEFOFE BATTLEPASS, BATTLE ROYALE AND GIRLBOSS COSMETICS 💯

ALSO THE SLIDE IS TOO SLOW

[digital turtle]

I mean, I hope that they represent more countries… the US and UK are obviously the most prominent members

[weak fossil]

The geopolitical situation is always the same ..

[clever imp]

nah bro you're butler field aka sigma 6, that tries to stop some pax missiles from launching 😭

[glacial tinsel]

I know the UK is definitely in Nato still in BF6 since one of the main mp maps is a British territory (Gibraltar) and Pax is the attacker on that map

[clever imp]

there's also a clayton "mog" pakowski cameo and he says "it's irish time" or something idk

[winged marten]

Isn't that map uk vs Spain or smth?

[weak fossil]

Download war game

“Noooo we can’t have Russia because of the politics!!!”

[digital turtle]

What your guys’s opinion on the point system of guns?

[winged marten]

Works very well

[spiral pelican]

CODFIELD 6 NEEDS BATTLE ROYALE AND BATTLEPASS ASAP. GET RID OF THESE STUPID “CLASSES” AND JUST LET US USE WHAT WE WANT. ALSO THE SLIDE IS TOO SLOW AND ITS SO STUPID THAT THERES AN ACCURACY PENALTY FOR JUMPING. ONE MORE THING THEY SHOULD SCRAP EVERY GAME MODE WITH MORE THAN 8V8 AND ONLY USE LIKE 1/5th OF THE MAP ITS TOO BIG RN

[digital turtle]

Yeah, I think it’s neat

[glacial tinsel]

Idk maybe should be interesting to hopefully see in the campaign

[digital turtle]

Decisions, decisions, decisions

[clever imp]

uk vs spain goes hard af tbh

[digital turtle]

That’s what the point system is I hope they can expand more and maybe add more attachments both launch and post launch

[clever imp]

gibraltar in flames gotta be some spaniard's wet dream 😭

[winged marten]

appealing to the Spanish audience eh dice?

[digital turtle]

I’m currently watching Act Man’s latest battlefield six video and I have to again criticize the certain part

Again, I know that he’s only really played battlefield 1 so this is me nitpicking honestly…

Although I didn’t want to touch up upon different costumes that he says on the game and how there’s multiple factions

Obviously, BF one is set in World War I they have a lot more to do there, I kind of wish that we could probably get different variations from different countries

[weak fossil]

I hope Mr.BossFTW makes some battlefield content

[winged marten]

So BF6 is basically world war 3, and bf2042 is the cold war 2; BFV was world war 2 and we had a cold war after that so this follows

[ashen kernel]

One of my pet peeves is that both factions feel identical. I genuinely have no idea whether I am NATO or Pax most of the time

[clever imp]

nah act man's opinions are not to be trusted that mf thinks mw2 2022 is good 🥀

[ashen kernel]

Same weapons, same vehicles, english vo

[digital turtle]

[winged marten]

It'd be nice having a ui indicator on whether you're nato or pax

[digital turtle]

It does feel kind of difficult for me, but not too bad

[ashen kernel]

It would be enough to replace the Abrams with a T14 Armata for starters

[weak fossil]

Why US v RU was supreme

[digital turtle]

I don’t know. I’m a military there too as soon as I seen multicam then I know that is a NATO soldier

[ashen kernel]

Why would ex-NATO pmc be running Abrams when Americans are their main opponent?

[digital turtle]

Bunch of NATO countries are going to be adopting multi-cam if they haven’t already

Germany is going to be adopting a variation called multitarn which is replacing their iconic Flecktarn

[digital turtle]

Because the US gives us weapons and other gear NATO countries

Not surprising if our own tanks are being used against us, also wouldn’t mind some Chinese and Russian jets mixed in as well since Pax is probably getting kick back from those guys as well

[winged marten]

No it's a placeholder

The final game will have different vehicles for pax

[digital turtle]

Even if it’s a placeholder, it kind of makes sense, I don’t blame dice for wanting to change it to Russian or Chinese tanks just because it would be confusing lol

[stone panther]

Is it confirmed or does anybody know if there is gonna be some sort of platoon/clan system for BF6 so that I can wear a clantag instead of putting it in my actual name?

[digital turtle]

You know in light of all of this

I do kind of wonder about how far the game could go in terms of representing its faction and such well because OK… battlefield one I freaking love because of the historical part of playing as multiple fractions from that war, it’s an unfair comparison because that is a conventional war and we are playing a game that for now at least doesn’t have any specific countries as factions

BF6 is about a crumbling NATO alliance that is against a multinational PMC. There are something that you can probably do in terms of giving more character and such… although it depends on if dice wants to do that

[keen steeple]

Call of duty are like leftovers of which nobody wants to eat a part of thick of it like a bread, soft and gooey in the middle and the rest crappy crust on the outside.

[sly heath]

PMC fighting a war is so unrealistic!
|| Just ignore the Russian Wagner group for a second ||

[dusky crest]

LFG message me

[flat blaze]

Theres a reason Operations hasnt returned to BF. And its one of 2 reasons.

1. They dont intend to put that much effort into a gamemode again. Lets be real Operations took up most of the development time for BF1.

2. The people behind operations are gone.

[digital turtle]

[sly heath]

2. Bring them back

[digital turtle]

I also get why operations wouldn’t come back again because operations was epic in battlefield one because it obviously had historical value behind it, its gameplay where you were fighting in a war, and you got even little insights and a slight history lesson of that battle

Again, I love battlefield one because I’m a history buff and the historical authenticity of the game was peak and it did bring a lot of life to the game

[flat blaze]

We're just as likely to get those devs back as we are to get the devs behind TF2.

[digital turtle]

I just don’t know how they can do operations again, except from the core gameplay

I need that type of story telling even if it’s in a fictional world back in operations

[flat blaze]

If they put time into a campaign that fleshed out the world and factions of a Battlefield game they could do Operations but telling an actual story rather then just repeating history.

[digital turtle]

yeah

I’m not saying that operations couldn’t come back in a modern battlefield, but I’m just saying is that the main reason why operations worked the first time around in BF 1 was because the fact that you were basically fighting almost a real war/front

We’re not getting operations back into BF6 obviously but it’s interesting to think about what it could be in a game like this

[flat blaze]

Operations are simply a design of a better team of devs, with a better approach, and an intention to explore an era of warfare previously extremely unexplored by media in general, and especially video games.

[winged crest]

BF6 with prox chat would be so much fun

[flat blaze]

Please ✋️😶🤚 itd be so peak

[digital turtle]

I need to know if the rocket launchers have back blast because I didn’t get to test

Now I must say this… BF1 was obviously the game that I played the most in terms of the battlefield series and the atmosphere was killer

So in terms of the atmosphere of the game, I know that BF6 is a high bar in order to achieve & obviously BF6 is not going to achieve that

[lavish totem]

I'd like to see more fire support vehicles that can provide artillery, rockets, bombs, or mortar support. Maybe revive commander style callings from BF2/BF4. It was nice being able to provide support to my team from a tablet/phone.

[digital turtle]

It’s just kind of interesting about how vastly different the atmosphere is of 1 to 6

[mortal jay]

how do i check my stats for week 2?

[digital turtle]

You can take a dookie on the toilet while still playing battlefield

[lavish totem]

Absolutely 😂

[marble depot]

they do

[spark mountain]

Scared of women dawg?

[marble depot]

goo goo ga ga waaa awaaa

[digital turtle]

Dohn is…

I don’t know, he’s just like that for some reason

He used to be in another server I’m currently still in… he was the exact same there too lol

[urban robin]

Dohn is just built different, what can I say

[sly heath]

Why would you equate to them having phobia of women?

[stone panther]

Because he complains about women in a game

[spark mountain]

Odd complaining about the game having female soldiers

[digital turtle]

Dohn is legit just a ragebaiter

I mean is it funny? Most of the time, no

[sly heath]

He never said that

[spark mountain]

Schadenfreude

[stone panther]

Ragebaiter better than the ragecheater I guess

[clever imp]

nah bro I totally fell for the nato engineer

[spark mountain]

Which one lol

[marble depot]

I'm so happy when in the final game you can't change gender for the classes :)

[stone panther]

Sorry, a ragecheater not a special one

[digital turtle]

she bad af ngl🔥 🗣️

[spark mountain]

They all are infuriating

[digital turtle]

I mean, that’s not why I play engineer… I just like blowing tanks up

[celest nova]

Man Delta Force is genuinely not a good game. This will definitely not hold me over til BF6 releases.

[digital turtle]

Again, I know this guy so I’m used to his unsufferable ragebait but yeah, it can get overbearing

[marble depot]

this community is going to explode when they reveal that the classes in 6 are all named characters with backstories

[marble depot]

they made 2042 but worse (somehow)

[sly heath]

Sounds kinda lame. I prefer if they were generic soldiers

[marble depot]

I doesn't matter to me either way

[digital turtle]

idk if they apparently have lore to them

[marble depot]

as long as they get to customize them

[sly heath]

They should be. Why would you have multiple people running around with the same characters

[marble depot]

they all have written backstories, so far all the US (coyote squad) and Espada dudes have backstories

[clever imp]

weapon customization kinda feels good but overall the game just feels weird 😭

[sly heath]

They don't need backstories. You're not writing a Saving Private Ryan but playing a generic Battlefield video games.

[marble depot]

erm, I don't think it really matters

[sly heath]

Not every characters in every video games especially arcade shooters need backstories

[marble depot]

they might not even make it into the final game, maybe they were just primers for voice direction

[digital turtle]

I don’t really notice the fact that they have the same character models, in these type of games anyway

[urban robin]

I just want a cute character

[digital turtle]

I think maybe just attached in different voices to them but slightly medicate issue just so they don’t sound all the same

[stone panther]

This one was cute

[marble depot]

the US engineer is right there sir

[clever imp]

ma boi boris

[urban robin]

Bearded man, what a chad

[clever imp]

he kinda look like jack black

[urban robin]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

Embed fail...

[digital turtle]

NATO Engineer is an Asian baddie 🔥 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥

[clever imp]

embedfield

[marble depot]

judging by the US engineers name she's Korean

[stone panther]

No gifs allowed

[digital turtle]

Where did you even find this information?

[clever imp]

we're back people 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[digital turtle]

We have no character bios at least in the official game

[marble depot]

no sorry im dumb she's Japanese

[stable jay]

COFFEE IS OOOO GOOD

[urban robin]

We're SO back

[marble depot]

shit was datamined like 4 months ago lmao

[clever imp]

EVEN BETTER 🗣️

[digital turtle]

o

[stone panther]

NANI?

[digital turtle]

In terms of the voice lines… I need Canadian British and German voices at least

[stone panther]

Nein

[digital turtle]

I want more NATO countries, the ones that are left at least

[marble depot]

apparently the Pax engineer in the beta is supposed to be French but she's like British in game

[digital turtle]

She could be a French or British defector… maybe it could even be like a South African accent in terms of her English

[marble depot]

maybe they just stole the lines from the actual brit engineer because the lines were unfinished idk

[marble depot]

her name is Nicole Dumont so ...

[urban robin]

@clever imp finish what you're trying to say damn it

[clever imp]

weren't the pax soldiers in the beta spanish?

[digital turtle]

We don’t know yet, I could tell that there’s some Spanish and maybe slight Slavic accents from the rest of PAX

[clever imp]

like I swear they all had that spanish accent like blasco

[sly heath]

Considering that they're PMC, probably from all around the world

[digital turtle]

What if it could be like placeholder names and such maybe to easily access the characters to work on them or something?

[marble depot]

Assault is Spanish, recon is from South America and the support and engineer are supposed to be French

[digital turtle]

We’re both dealing with multinational organizations, so the language could be all over the place

[dusky crest]

Looking for group message me

[digital turtle]

France did leave NATO to presumably join PAX in lore

[sly heath]

Even in real life, PMC get recruited from all around the globe

[urban robin]

Nuh uh

[stone panther]

Where do I send my bank data

[marble depot]

yeah it makes sense that Pax would have a french soldiers

[severe flame]

Use the LFG chats

[stable jay]

https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/179133571053780992

[stone panther]

It's probably a bot or a scammer so they don't care

[clever imp]

man all this pax talk is making me impatient for battlefield 6 🔥

[digital turtle]

What about the NATO voice lines? Mostly just British or US?

[stable jay]

https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/998991805716635828

[remote hatch]

Ong this guy comes everyday lfg ing, not even saying what game or what platform like

[stable jay]

what is pax is it a real world thing?

[severe flame]

Fikitv afaik

[marble depot]

well we know there's American, British, and Egyptian sub units so far

[clever imp]

nah pax is pure fiction since they're actually a well put together pmc 🥀

them mfs locked in when they invaded gibraltar they my goats frfr

[digital turtle]

Egypt it’s not a part of NATO. I would expect thrm to at least have ties with them tho

[marble depot]

yeah but it's like a fictional universe

[stable jay]

PMC?

mercs?

[severe flame]

I wonder how the Gripen audio will be

[digital turtle]

Yeh

Pax Armada is a PMC

[sly heath]

Private Military Contractor firm and it is a real thing

[clever imp]

paxin my armata to the siege of cairo loading screen track 🔥

[stable jay]

i sawe the leak video

the actual soldier detail on the armor and just the general look of them is spot on

[marble depot]

I want to play as the Kahina unit so bad...

[digital turtle]

Masters of War was pretty nice for the BF 6 reveal trailer

[clever imp]

the kahina unit got max drip

[severe flame]

I have started to get tired of siege of Cairo i have mostly just gotten that map lol

[stable jay]

there is lots of mercs in the ukraine war i think

so ive heard

[clever imp]

I have to say even if the espada patrol look like some surplus airsoft mfs the kahina boys are gonna carry pax armata in the dripfield

[digital turtle]

The L110 is…

it is the British military designation of the FN Minimi… the iconic M249 SAW over here in the states

[clever imp]

man I wanted the saw bro

[vapid yarrow]

i tried BF5 again.. i can't.. i can't really play it :/

[digital turtle]

It is a M249 SAW, this is just a military designation used by the US. It’s ultimately the same weapon… the FN Minimi

[clever imp]

yea but I miss the handguard 🥀

[marble depot]

I can't wait to fly the F-97 Kestrel and the F-61V in Battlefield 6 😃

[rigid snow]

so sad that i have to play 2042 to get bf6 rewards 😔

[digital turtle]

also… the M433 is a prototype that you don’t see much in games

[marble depot]

wdym the HK 433 is a real production game

[mint sandal]

Have you seen h8m play gta 3?

[digital turtle]

It’s based on the HK433 yes I know… the last prominent infection of the game was MW2019, BO6 you want to count the Verdansk event

[clever imp]

real shit bro 🥀

[weary tapir]

Do you know news about UK, Germany, Italy and Spain? What EU country leave Nato to join pax? 🤔☕️🚬

[marble depot]

well it's like the first time the gun was added to a video game

[clever imp]

we gotta get punished for the rewards bro no pain no gain said them dice mfs

[exotic hedge]

Good day guys

[clever imp]

the pain in question: playing butterfield 2042 for more than 10 minutes

[marble depot]

the 433 in BF6 is the production version

[rigid snow]

the grind is a grind

[digital turtle]

It probably appeared in other Smaller games before then but the first prominent was definitely MW 2019

Interesting rifle that was a part of the trials to replace the G36 in game

[clever imp]

grind is grind said john dice

[marble depot]

ehhhhhh looking at IMFDB the first appearance was MW19, which makes sense because the gun was only revealed in 2017

[digital turtle]

eh, actually, you could be right there

Anyway, the weapon is interesting as it’s basically a hybrid between the HK 416 and a G 36… kind of best of both worlds

Very interesting gun and you may be wondering why of weapons were competing in the same military trial even though they were made from the same manufacturer, however they technically were not competing in the same trials

To my knowledge, the HK 433 was for the German spec ops and the HK 416 was going to be for the regular infantry… as you probably could concur, the HK433 never really got adopted and it’s still sort of a prototype gun to this day

[weary tapir]

In BF6 Italy must be stay in Nato 🇮🇹🎮☕️🚬

[digital turtle]

Actually

Scratch that, turns out that apparently the weapon is going to be tested and produced

YAY✨

[marble depot]

HK loves making assault rifles

[digital turtle]

yep

Apparently, a PDW version of the HK433/HK437 is being put into production

[mellow siren]

Hey 👋 if I'm correct there will be no beta testing, right? I have to wait for a full release? 🤣

[forest monolith]

Yeah he is

[tepid nebula]

the new ad for BF6 was crazy omfg

[weak fossil]

Absolutely

[somber dome]

Anyone know if stat bot is not working?

[dusky crest]

lfg message me

[fringe laurel]

Are the devs going to fix the pistols feeling like you are shooting a potato gun. There's literally no weight to it.

[weary tapir]

Me too ☕️

[carmine lily]

.

[dim bramble]

rainbow six vegas had it before

[gleaming quiver]

awful username

[carmine lily]

horrid even

[marble depot]

the 433 didn't even exist until 2017 bro

[clever imp]

vangoated > bf2042

[charred comet]

[dim bramble]

oh sorry i was thinking of the wrong gun.
anyway I looked it up on imfdb and it was in a.v.a. and warface before

also why is this gun in there if DE left nato?

[marble depot]

we don't know if Germany left

[dim bramble]

and why is the MCX not the default rifle

[marble depot]

actually I think Germany is still part of NATO

[charred ibex]

How many weapons will we get on launch?

[marble depot]

the US unit is apparently stationed in Germany so yeah

[dim bramble]

isn't the setting of the game that europe left?

[dim bramble]

oh, so we didn't abolish ramstein after all. no hope left i guess

[novel inlet]

They shoot just like real life

Someone who served said they pretty much identical i think

[fringe laurel]

I mean there's no weight to it tho. Your arm didnt move only the gun. It literally feels like a potato gun. Realistic would still show some weight to it

[forest monolith]

Cope

[dim bramble]

can you shoot yourself in bf6?

[spark mountain]

Ya

[velvet dawn]

will they remove secure boot for release?

[spark mountain]

Def a cope so far

[dim bramble]

cool. so i can rp as myself

[spark mountain]

If they do more with the guns it will be better

[hexed timber]

Has anyone noticed that there was no player body collision in the beta? Do you think they’ll keep it that way when it releases?

[weary tapir]

😁

[dim bramble]

I hope so. bodyblocking is very frustrating

[hazy shore]

Shout out to all these idiots who bought the sports games every single year full price because they funded this game

[hexed timber]

I didn’t like it, it takes away all the immersion.

[marble depot]

every other BF game doesn't have body blocking why should 6 have it?

[dim bramble]

in real life you can squeeze by someone standing in a passage. it damages my immersion when the game treats me and my teammates as inflexible obelisks

[spark mountain]

New isn't necessarily bad?

[marble depot]

just seems annoying in an arcade shooter

[spark mountain]

Its semi realistic

[hexed timber]

But it also doesn’t make sense for two players to be shooting inside each other. Lol

[dim bramble]

phrasing

[blazing peak]

Release the game now

[hazy shore]

Bodyblocking is unnecessary especially since BF6 maps are tighter and smaller than other BF installments

[dim bramble]

release the kraken

[hazy shore]

Yes please 😭

[spark mountain]

There is a bigger fish to fry than this I feel like

[dim bramble]

Do you think love can bloom on a battlefield?

[forest monolith]

K0pe

[spark mountain]

Christmas truce of 1914

[hexed timber]

I believe that without body blocking the game becomes even more chaotic than it already is, since there’s no penalty. Not being able to walk through your teammates should feel natural. Anyway… this mechanic reminds me of Delta Force, yikes.

[hazy shore]

Yes

[dusky crest]

need 1 / need 2 DM me

[dim bramble]

i need 1 2 hold me

[spark mountain]

Coke or Pepsi

[dim bramble]

either is fine

[spark mountain]

Root beer or Dr Pepper

[dim bramble]

i have never had either

[spark mountain]

Missing out

Can't describe you taste of root beer

[dim bramble]

i like malt beer

[spark mountain]

Dr Pepper is like if Cherry coke tasted good

[dim bramble]

i prefer vanilla coke over cherry

[spark mountain]

Cherry is too fire of a flavour

[dim bramble]

maybe i would like dr. pepper better than vanilla coke

[weary tapir]

Birra Peroni 😎

[spark mountain]

Whats that

[dim bramble]

it's time for my lexapro but I can't get out of bed

[weary tapir]

Italian beer

[spark mountain]

I haven't been to Italy while being legal to drink there

[dim bramble]

need a support to drag me

[dim bramble]

every american should travel to germany when they turn 16. that's our legal drinking age

[chilly shore]

For me I don't drink

[spark mountain]

Here in Canada its 18 so I am fine

[chilly shore]

In the Philippines the legal drinking age is 18 I think

Some say 21

[dim bramble]

me neither but I'm also not american

[chilly shore]

But you can just buy Alcohol from nearby Sari Sari stores and they wouldn't even ask about your age

[dim bramble]

the flu is killing me

[chilly shore]

Or even ask for IDs aside from gas stations maybe liquor store

I'm the only one in the Family who doesn't drink nor smoke

[dim bramble]

this is reminding me of that one clip from phineas and ferb.
"aren't you too young to be driving this?"
"yes I am"
"oh okay"

[chilly shore]

Tho I'm thankful for being born here, we barely have restrictions for games

[dim bramble]

the philipines seem like a cool place

[chilly shore]

Alot of fun places to visit not the best place to live though especially around the NCR

[dim bramble]

however my biggest cultural contact with it was josie rizal in tekken

therefore none

[marble depot]

shout out to the Pinoys around the world

[chilly shore]

Honestly BF devs should visit Mindanao, the devs will have alot of materials for a BF map

[dim bramble]

what is a pinoy? is that a slur?

[chilly shore]

Nope,

[marble depot]

I'd never...

[chilly shore]

Just a simplified way of saying Filipino

[dim bramble]

oh god. I'm sorry

[chilly shore]

Or Pilipino

[fair oxide]

Do you guys know when the stats for weekend two will be available?

[dim bramble]

I didn't mean to offend

[chilly shore]

I dunno how many of my countrymen plays Battlefield here

[wide elbow]

this

[chilly shore]

Imagine a Mall of Asia Battlefield map

That place is huge

[dim bramble]

a gigantic mall seems like a cool map section

[storm vault]

When are the stats for the 2nd week coming out?

[marble depot]

welcome back Interchange

[chilly shore]

Although I doubt SM would be happy that their Mall of Asia is turned into a virtual warzone

[wide elbow]

Make Bali map 🥳🥳

[chilly shore]

Once the BF6 campaign gets released, the spoilers are gonna be an issue

[gleaming quiver]

ppl still play the campaigns?

[whole forge]

Yea

[celest nova]

Recently found out that Delta Force has SBMM. Quickest uninstall I’ve done so far.

[whole forge]

Delta Force has a lot of shit that is not told to you

From the frequent bots to constant lies, from artificially inflating their skin economy and fucked up matchmaking

[tidal hound]

Delta Force doesnt even have enough players for SBMM to separate people. So even if it did, it wouldnt be doing anything

[meager epoch]

Why are you making it look like a speech chill out bro

[weary tapir]

I play them 😎

I prefer playing multy but before i play the campaigns

[celest nova]

The game is just awful. Inconsistent gunplay, super fast TTK, unbalanced operators, broken vehicles. I don’t why I expected so much from a Chinese F2P game.

[tidal hound]

BF6 also has SBMM so I guess you arent buying that either?

Make sure to refund bf3 since that also had sbmm

[gleaming quiver]

i dont think you know what SBMM means

[marble depot]

those games didn't have SBMM

[tidal hound]

They did

[whole forge]

It aint the SBMM that DF and COD uses though

Battlefield still uses the good old Team Balancing system

The devs have constantly clarified on this both on Reddit AND Twitter

[gleaming quiver]

they literally have a server browser lmao you can choose where you join, you mean team ballancer which is a different thing

[marble depot]

they used your skill level for team balancing

[tidal hound]

DF doesn't use COD SBMM either. Just similar to BF matching

[marble depot]

from what I've heard it's the terrible CoD version lmao

[celest nova]

No it’s not.

[gleaming quiver]

what matching if YOU choose what server u play on? jesus christ

[tidal hound]

You do realise that the game also had regular matchmaking right? And game devs themselvees refer to team balancing as sbmm.

Well they used to before SBMM became a boogeyman

[marble depot]

either way whatever matchmaking system BF uses is not the same as DF or CoDs

[gleaming quiver]

no, the game had a "quick play" button that just throws you into the first available server whatever it is, only monkeys used that and thats still not SBMM

[tight prism]

been watching bf6 beta videos and my god EA has pulled an Activision 🤣

[tidal hound]

You're right. I have a 6+k/d in DF because its SBMM was as strict as COD's

[tight prism]

brain rot shit small maps

the true battlefield experience is dead guys

[celest nova]

The DF devs way on how handle SBMM isn’t the same as Battlefield by the way. https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.videogamer.com%2Ffeatures%2Fdelta-force-director-explains-skill-based-matchmaking-is-essential-for-fun-some-rules-are-needed%2F

[marble depot]

I guess BF1 Fort Vaux is a brain rot shit small activision game...

[gleaming quiver]

bf3/4 will never return thats true

[marble depot]

actually the DF player count is probably so low you get paired wit bots 💀

[tidal hound]

And DICE have said that bf6 will be using skill as a parameter for matchmaking too.

[tight prism]

bf6 is a wannabe cod clone that's failing miserably

[gleaming quiver]

no

[delicate quartz]

115k rn, totes low

[marble depot]

L ragebait 😭 you gotta go back to ragebait school

[marble depot]

those numbers are 100% botted

[tidal hound]

It is all bots now. At launch it has high playercounts of real people

[tight prism]

seems like maps in the beta are meant for those brain rotten spastic kids who know nothing but "wkey and hold left mouse"

[tidal hound]

But post launch support was ass

[delicate quartz]

🆗

[gleaming quiver]

which map is bigger, liberation peak or dawnbreaker?

[tight prism]

keep coping if you wish, you'll always be braindead until you embrace the truth

[marble depot]

how come you had to watch a video about the BF6 beta instead of actually playing it to come to that conclusion?

[tight prism]

imagine sucking the toes of the company that killed titanfall

[marble depot]

oh it's a titanfall baby I get it now...

[tight prism]

you guys really are mentally challenged

[gleaming quiver]

imagine liking titanfall when armored core exists

[marble depot]

armored core 6 frickin sucks!

[gleaming quiver]

TAKE THAT BACK

[delicate quartz]

imagine spending your time trying to tell others what they can and can't enjoy

[marble depot]

remove the stagger and add back turn speed

[tight prism]

nah I'm just laughing at the bf6 hype addicts living in their echo chamber reinforcing each other's delusional beliefs with positive toxicity

[gleaming quiver]

tbh ive never played previous AC games so idk but wow AC6 is fun as hell both singleplayer and multiplayer. action GOTY baby

[tight prism]

no wonder why games are shit nowadays

[marble depot]

A lot of the AC old heads don't like it

[tight prism]

don't cry on reddit when bf6 gets cartoon skins

[gleaming quiver]

yea whining about cod on a bf discord is gonna change that

[tight prism]

bf6 is basically cod that didn't come out of the closet yet

[opaque atlas]

The size isn't the problem the playable areas are but ti answer your question dawnbreaker

[marble depot]

bro you gotta go back to the ragebait academy 😭

[gleaming quiver]

really cod has jets? wow

[hazy shore]

Out of 100 things EA might actually do that could kill bf6 this is not one of them

[gleaming quiver]

dawnbreaker isnt bigger

[hazy shore]

Back then they used to, infinite warfare was a good game

This guy lmao

[gleaming quiver]

what

[opaque atlas]

It has more playable areas the size is fine it's that we don't have enough places to go look at Iberian offensive most os the map is buildings we cant enter and tight corridors making the map feel smaller than it is

[gleaming quiver]

brb getting a gucci bag to get girls

[hazy shore]

I think all of us are gonna buy BF6 to have fun,not to look cool gng

[tight prism]

Oh look at that, I upset the bf6 cult and got a warning from some stupid bot

[hazy shore]

Yeah please ban this guy lol

[tight prism]

please & ty

would rather play apex legends instead

[hazy shore]

LMFAO

[tight prism]

much better game than cod 2.0

[hazy shore]

nah little timmy blew his cover

He's an apex player after all, makes sense why he's like this

[boreal monolith]

funny considering the guy who made apex is the one making bf6 lmao

[hazy shore]

We gotta bet though that this guy is actually some BF6 fan's alt doing this to make BF6 haters look bad

[dim bramble]

guys just block the baiter and move on

[opaque atlas]

Dawnbreaker is a bit bigger than siege of cairo

[delicate quartz]

no one cares about you or what you enjoy, go play apex legends then

[hazy shore]

There is no way this is a real dude

[gleaming quiver]

bigger than cairo yes for sure, not lib peak tho

[opaque atlas]

But with more verticality and more accessible areas making the map feel larger

[marble depot]

this either worst ragebaiter or someone genuinely angry 😭

[hazy shore]

He is challenged

[delicate quartz]

probably getting his ass handed to him in 2042 trying to earn the bf6 skins, came here to rage vent

[opaque atlas]

Treu liberation is roughly the size of siege of Shanghai but its feels smaller

[marble depot]

lib peak would prolly play a lil better if it wasn't so funnelly

[hazy shore]

Fair enough

I forgive you, troll

[delicate quartz]

🫂

[boreal monolith]

Think he got booted lmao

[boreal crow]

good riddance

what a degen

[robust forum]

what did y'all think abt the BF6 maps?

[marble depot]

hate watching act man BF6 video and bro said the ADS speeds are too fast???

[opaque atlas]

Yea something like that

[quasi pelican]

ah October is so long

[opaque atlas]

No idea we haven't played most of them

[robust forum]

well the ones in the beta

[boreal crow]

id say i personally love bf6 maps, i understand the size problem though

[red wyvern]

Will bf6 have a campaign?

[marble depot]

Cairo and Iberian are good, Lib Peak and Empire are ok

[quasi pelican]

I enjoyed the maps I played in the beta

[opaque atlas]

But loberation peak was mid to bad cairo was bad because of the glitches but personally i had a lot of fun on empire state and the ibirian map

[boreal crow]

liberation peak was just a sniper wet dream

[opaque atlas]

Imma get a lot of hate for liking the empire state map

[quasi pelican]

Looking forward to Firestorm Karg island would be great too

[hazy shore]

Has cover. good

[robust forum]

empire and cairo were fun lib was just eh guess I never got ibirian though, just seem too small for a battlefield but maybe that'll change at release

[opaque atlas]

Yea cause of shit visibility couldn't see anyone from a specific range

[marble depot]

I feel like it was a knee jerk reaction because most people didn't the layout and flow yet

[tidal hound]

To be fair, people who wanted to snipe couldnt really do it on any map other than Peak

[red wyvern]

I liked all the maps tbh, some could have been slightly bigger tho

[hazy shore]

Empire state is a good map

[quasi pelican]

I am sure we will see bigger maps

[opaque atlas]

I think it was fun i really don't get the hate actually it was the one i had the most fun , on cairo i used to rage quit most of the time cause of the dudes that glitched their way to rooftops

[boreal crow]

well sniping on lib is easier considering the fact that theres a bunch of huge as mountains, really depends on where you are positioned

[marble depot]

Cairo was so good before the roof campers

[boreal monolith]

roof tops been fixed since the closed testing. The beta was an old build of the game

[opaque atlas]

I didn't play the first beta i missed that one out

[tidal hound]

Children that glitched their way up*

[quasi pelican]

Well, I agree, it's the best beta I have seen to date. I've been here a while since BFBC2

[gleaming quiver]

thats me

[marble depot]

it was really good, it's a shame the glitchers ruined it for you

[opaque atlas]

Im happy now

[boreal monolith]

Im not defending it but hitting jump at the right time is hardly a glitch lol

[opaque atlas]

Sorry i forgot they were 2 year olds

[boreal crow]

How do you guys feel sbout that rumored battle royale?

[gleaming quiver]

will be a dead game mode

[opaque atlas]

Im gonna take your word probably will see for my self next year

[marble depot]

hopefully it doesn't cut into multiplayer dev resources

[boreal crow]

same

[quasi pelican]

Oh, I thought it was official?

[robust forum]

I kinda want BRs to just go away

[opaque atlas]

If it lives more than 2 months it will be an achievement

[marble depot]

the season that BR drops should be cool, 3 california maps 👅

[celest nova]

Its only made to please Twitch streamers

[opaque atlas]

Yea waste of time and resources

[boreal monolith]

As long as the don't release it for a few months (like wait till the spring) it'll be fine. Need to get people hooked into MP before dropping something new that could split the playerbase

[robust forum]

fr it was fun before but now its just getting boring

[marble depot]

it's dropping whenever season 1 happens

[boreal crow]

so we got some time before the streamtards get their hands on the game

[quasi pelican]

I enjoyed Firestorm in bfv. At the beginning, I had never played BR prior to shame, it was never supported

[opaque atlas]

Neither will this one

[gleaming quiver]

dont we all. just keep BR to pubg and leave us alone with that crap game mode

[opaque atlas]

But money money twitch money skins money cartoon heros

[robust forum]

Fortnite is certainly fun with friends

[opaque atlas]

Money bundles money

Money money money

[boreal crow]

Yk i hopped on warzone last month after not touching cod for a year and got domed by the dude from american dad, im not taking this stupid ass game seriously, i feel like cods already dead.

[marble depot]

CoD will never die, no matter how bad it gets

[robust forum]

kids wont let it die

[boreal crow]

well its dead to pretty much every casual gamer lol

[boreal monolith]

CoD is the fifa of the fps world

[gleaming quiver]

they might aswell start calling it cod 2025, cod 2026 etc at this point

[sweet harness]

I don't know anyone in the Battlefield community that enjoys or wishes any BR ever done by DICE idk why they keep trying

[dusky crest]

LFG fun only message me

[robust forum]

wish CoD was like MW2 again or at least similar not a bunch of goofy ass skins running around and no meta builds

[boreal crow]

activision drops off their slop every year aswell lmao

its just the cod cycle

[robust forum]

ever since BF6 beta I've installed every battlefield I own tryna cure that itch moving onto BF1

[atomic forum]

well bf6 is here

[robust forum]

not yet but I cant wait for it to release just feels like forever until it does lol

[boreal crow]

true

[atomic forum]

true i just want another game to grind

bo6 got boring at prestige 5 for me

[boreal crow]

i couldnt manage to get my friends to enjoy bf6, i guess the majority of people are used to the slop

[robust forum]

bo6 got boring for me after about a week in

[boreal crow]

the only thing i enjoyed about bf6 was the zombies tbh

[atomic forum]

the only thing that was interesting was camo grind

hopefully bf6 has something like that

[boreal monolith]

Got boring after i finished the camo grind. Didn't even bother with the zombies camos this time

[robust forum]

honestly that would be nice but I'd probably still enjoy it without that just for the combat alone something about it feels good

[urban robin]

The best statement ive ever seen from this week my goodness

[clever imp]

except vangoated 🔥

[sweet harness]

I was never able to enjoy cod I tried but it's not for me

[urban robin]

Yeah, same. Shame BF2042 failed to capture what Battelfield was all about. Heres hoping BF6 delivers that

[dusky crest]

lfg, chill player

[remote hatch]

Mods take this guys ability to say "lfg..." in general chats away

[eager sinew]

Hail bf6

We will crush in sellings cod 🤣🤣🤣

[remote hatch]

I dont care who has most or more sales i just want a good game man 😭

[little path]

BF6 is so so close chat

In the meantime, go play 2042 or other bf

[torpid cosmos]

too small and not very well laid out

[gleaming quiver]

playing bf4 after a bunch of bf2042 games is mindblowing

a 14 or whatever year old game better in every aspect than a 2021 game after patches

[torpid cosmos]

yeah, I don't think Battlefield is reaching the height of BFV anytime soon

[hollow harbor]

BFV is a good low they havent gone to yet indeed

2042 easily beats bfv

[torpid cosmos]

cap

[south oak]

Yeah, bf5 is better than the scam of 2042

[torpid cosmos]

BFV was the last good Battlefield title

[hollow harbor]

i wanted to refund the 3.5$ i paid for bfv

2042 , i CAN play to get the bf6 skins

its playable 1000% more than bfv

[torpid cosmos]

I wonder what it is you look for in a Battlefield game that makes you say that

by that logic I'd expect you to call 1 and 4 trash as well

[dusky crest]

LFG chill only message me

[hollow harbor]

i love 1

bfv is so bad i cannot even stand navigating its menus

[torpid cosmos]

1 is nothing like 2042

[hollow harbor]

V is the most horrid game you can play imo

you see 2042 is tolerable to some extent , V shouldnt be called a battlefield

[ionic elm]

Bold take

[hollow harbor]

deadass cannot understand how people even play V

[torpid cosmos]

can you like, actually provide some reasons why or should I just disregard your opinion

[mint scaffold]

honeslty I feel its the other way around, in a way

But I hate them both XD

[ionic elm]

Yeah V is quite a good game with a lot of baggage and problems (UI, vehicle balance, assignment system) imo.

I didnt like 2042 at all on launch but my opinion isnt as valid nowadays. I need to put some time into it and see how it is end-of-life

[hollow harbor]

V has no spotting , you die to tanks 90% of the time that CANNOT be spotted , gunplay feels horrible gun recoil is smushy , visibility overall is unbearable

[mint scaffold]

Like a true EA shill, I will be playing Sims 4 till Bf6 help me

[hollow harbor]

you cant mute the announcer saying stuff in german or japanese you cant turn off its horrible TAA

[ionic elm]

V had my favourite spotting system. Actually required recons and gadgets to spot someone. Not just looking at the minimap the whole time

[hollow harbor]

yeah unlike every single battlefield game 🤷‍♂️

[mint scaffold]

I do hope they change Spoting before launch

[simple mountain]

I'll play 2042 until borderlands 4 and then that until bf6 myself

[gaunt island]

Got a question? Will there be create your own platoon on Battlefield 6?

[mint scaffold]

borderlands is planed?

[mint scaffold]

not confirmed or denied yet

[torpid cosmos]

I prefer spotting being delegated to recon tbh, gives them more of a defined role but I can understand the dislike of that change

[simple mountain]

September 12th yeah

[mint scaffold]

change of plans I will be playing Sims 4 till sep 12

[hollow harbor]

i was actually disliking 2042 doing the fomo event for bf6

until i got the magnum revolver and i kinda had a bit of fun with it

[gaunt island]

That would be dope if you can create your own platoon like they did on Battlefield v and 1

[simple mountain]

Now just wait til you get the desert eagle and you'll have a blast then

[ionic elm]

I think a few other classes had ways of spotting too. Assault (with perk) could spot tanks they damage. Support could spot people they supress. Not sure on Medic

[mint scaffold]

I do hope so, It would work with their current match making as well. It was a good addition no reason to remove it

[gaunt island]

Right they should have done on 2042

[hollow harbor]

platoons in portal could be a thing

but they got rid of emblems thankfully

[mint scaffold]

add bo2 emblem system what coudl go worng

[eternal nexus]

We’re so back boys

[tight prism]

It’s hard playing bf2042 after this beta

[ancient patrol]

Hello. I m new.

I did read that ther is a way tho see my 2beta weekend stats on this discord. Is that still posible?

[eternal nexus]

I couldn’t even watch Jev play it, game looked terrible

[ionic elm]

Ngl getting into 100m+ firefights is whiplash after Bf6

[hollow harbor]

the mouse doesn't work

[eternal nexus]

I got mine emailed

[tight prism]

Maps are terrible, weapons also

[hollow harbor]

if only my mouse moved like i want and my solider responded to my WASD inputs

[tight prism]

I use controller, not able to use mouse and keyboard

[ancient patrol]

I hope the releas battlefield has les COD gunplay

[tight prism]

Stop that, cod does some things better than battlefield, and viceversa

[ancient patrol]

I dihnt say anything agains that.
🤷‍♂️

[fiery oxide]

It's not even cod gunplay

[ionic elm]

You can aim down sights? Sounds like cod to me

[mint scaffold]

dont forget u can reload too, but all in all Its not really like cod, cod is all laser beams, battlefield has always had bloom atrociously at times.

[ancient patrol]

Low recoil/low spray/no bullet drop. 👀

If i compare this tho bf3 or4. Than bf6 has a way more casual gunplay. Thats moreblike COD

[tight prism]

I said that Only because I hear people keeping blaming about this bf that is too much cod-like… but actually it’s not.
The movement isn’t like cod

[hollow harbor]

did no one notice how bad bf6 was in terms of fluidity ? crouching or proning interrupted your reloads ....

[mint scaffold]

so u want more bloom? thats what is mostly different from 3 and 4

[tight prism]

Yes, that was for the carabine for example

[quasi breach]

That's isn't bad tho

[cunning marten]

Have you tried reloading a rifle as you simultaneously try and lie down? I haven't, but Id imagine it would be tricky

[hollow harbor]

can't vault and reload , not sure about jumping but i remember SMACKING the R button for my RPG to reload

[tight prism]

But it’s a videogame, it has to find a good balance between being funny and realistic. I think they did well

[hollow harbor]

you can do that in all the earlier battlefield games , you also die to 1 shot in real life my guy ... this is a fucking video game not a failed project at military simulation

[ancient patrol]

I liked the bf3/4 gunplay morem you need tho learn your gun and could not just trow you Magazin in 1 row at your enemy and everything Hits.

[cunning marten]

Calm down bruh.As you say, its a video game. You couldn't jump over a foot high wall in BF3

[quasi breach]

Did bf3 or 4 had close quarter combat?

[ionic elm]

Yeah, bf3 especially

[ancient patrol]

Yes.

[quasi breach]

I thought bf was all about the long range fights and vehicles

[hollow harbor]

you couldnt crouch sprint in bf3 either , whats your point 😂

[cunning marten]

The close quarter maps were always very popular

[hollow harbor]

you shouldnt use "realism" arguments for objectively bad game design choices

[cunning marten]

Some game mechanics may change over a 15 year period?

[hollow harbor]

its a game and it should have the most fun aspects of a video game while maintaining a modest look to it

[fiery oxide]

Im fairly certain i could crouch/prone and reload in the beta

[ionic elm]

It generally depended between maps and gamemodes. Some maps were massive, others less so.

Bf3 had a good mix of CQB, combined arms and larger sandboxes like Caspian. Most of the Bf4 base maps onwards were quite large

[hollow harbor]

yeah making me press R 5 times after proning while taking cover is not a good game mechanic , you could literally do that in every single battlefield game

[quasi breach]

Yeah I feel the same.

[cunning marten]

Hmmm, 5 times? Sounds like a skill issue bro

[hollow harbor]

before i check @cunning marten ,, NA console player ?

[cunning marten]

I cant say I experienced whatever it is you are complaining about

[cunning marten]

Yep, PS5, got a PC too, is that offensive to you?

[mint scaffold]

i had no issue reloading, standing prone or crouched

[ancient patrol]

I had my fun in the Beta with the close maps. But its not a good ideam that you can fight a sniper of 200m+ with an AR in full A/D movemtn and winn it. Becous your weapon has low recoil/low spray.
As an exemple.

If i wahntet tho do this in bf4. Then i needet tho play my gun in the rightway. Waht means tap fire/ Layout down/use a bypod etc. Thats my critic

[hollow harbor]

it explains why you cant understand what im saying @cunning marten

[cunning marten]

You're saying you can't reload your gun efficiently, its very easy, I just press square for example, boom, done

[quasi breach]

What happened to your keyboard bro

[mint scaffold]

I think the only time I was blocked from reloading waas mid fall

[fiery oxide]

Game works the same way on console though

[sweet harness]

BF6 feels like Battlefield, I could understand people saying BF3 was more codlike, but that's almost 20 years ago, the game went for a more casual friendly style

But now? This is Battlefield, Bad Company 1 and 2, BF3, BF4, Hardline, even the abomination that is 2042

Only games we had recently with a slower pace were 1 and V because it's simply dated 70-100 years ago

[quasi breach]

Seems like It's just a you problem . No one in this chat has the same issue as you

[hollow harbor]

yeah apparently im the only person who played battelfield games before here lol

[quasi breach]

Good for you

[mint scaffold]

unpopular opion Hardline wasnt that bad, just the weaspon per team thing sucked

[cunning marten]

don't make me pull out the cringy "Im a BF veteran" card

[dusky crest]

anyone running a game

[hollow harbor]

if you literally do not take cover by proning and reloading at the same time you probably dont even have your monitor on when gaming

in bf6 proning interrupts your reload

[ancient patrol]

I did had the reload problem also some times.

[hollow harbor]

BAD GAME DESIGN

[mint scaffold]

ah i know what your talking about, I just atribute it to you have to use your hand to break your fall

[quasi breach]

Sometimes. That means it was a bug that might get fixed in the full release. I hope the argument is settled now

[hollow harbor]

hopefully its a beta bug , and they didnt intend it at all

[velvet kayak]

Weapon per team thing?

[fiery oxide]

Still fairly certain stationary proning didn't interrupt reloading

[mint scaffold]

in hardline you had to buy a contract or somthing like that to use a gun on both teams and not just the team u bought it on

[ancient patrol]

I also hope the buff the heli . 👀

[narrow tapir]

Bf6 will blow your minds in a big maps

[velvet kayak]

Yeah a licence, but that did not take long to do

[narrow tapir]

Also bf 2042 ain’t so bad

[hollow harbor]

im not sure if its more the interruption itself , or no continuation to the action after it gets interrupted that annoys me most

[mint scaffold]

honeslty if they just tone down how much damage AA rockets do it wouldnt be so bad, in all other games it took 2-3 rockets to kill a heli now its almost 1 since it does 90 dmg

[hollow harbor]

like yeah i still want my RPG to keep reloading after i vaulted over a ledge to shoot the tank , why did you stop the reload action at all

[mint scaffold]

yeah, just wasnt a fan of it

[ancient patrol]

Yea thats also a thing. 🤣 tte aa is way tho fast in making dmg.

[narrow tapir]

It’s actually should be only one

[hollow harbor]

the maps are horrid

[cunning marten]

There will be a ton of balancing changes from the Beta, hopefully all for the better

[mint scaffold]

true but you would need to allow flares to be launched non stop not launch then wait 30 secs to recharge, otherwise they would be unplayable

[ancient patrol]

Will ther be a test server fore the game run time? Annyone know?

[mint scaffold]

aka you start with 50 flares and it uses 5 at a time, then rearm

[old siren]

I hope the AA tank (LAV-AD) get more loadouts just like in BF4. Back in BF4 I switch the AA missiles with zuni rockets for the AA tank to fight other tanks in 1v1

[hollow harbor]

after 2042 its pretty hard to trust their words we only need actions

[cunning marten]

I have faith, or maybe its hope

[opaque atlas]

Like in 2042

[narrow tapir]

Maps actually good, they force you to think how to do staff. In bf6 for now it is boxes where you run like ass using corners

[hollow harbor]

they better drop a video with the change implemented or roll the change into a LABS playtest

[opaque atlas]

2042 maps are still horrid

[sweet harness]

Manhattan could use more cover in certain flags

[hollow harbor]

else all i hear is lies

[narrow tapir]

I don’t think soo

[vast mason]

I just throw 2042 away now I'm waiting for bf6

[cunning marten]

tbf, id happily put hundreds of hours into that beta, I cant wait for the full game, if they changed nothing from the beta, i'd still be stoked

[sweet harness]

Some are okay, not all are bad

[opaque atlas]

Because bf6 ones are monkey corridor engagements that doesn't the 2042 ones are good

[ancient patrol]

[opaque atlas]

Yea and there is one great map that one from s1 but most are bad

[hollow harbor]

from the few vanilla maps i played in 2042 i almost alt f4'd all of them , and stuck with iwo jima conq ...

[old siren]

One of the BF6 maps, it gave me a chance to use a shotgun like a sniper in long range and killed one of the players too

[cunning marten]

I played two games on Iwo 2042, its was horrendous, dunno why, maybe i just suck at 2042

[sweet harness]

To be honest best 2042 maps were taken from previous titles like bad company xD

I still don't understand why'd they keep so many maps with open spaces no cover and super high buildings for people to sit and snipe

[narrow tapir]

Maps was reworked like after first year of release and they for now actually very good. You just need to do right decisions and analysis what is happening

[opaque atlas]

Yea same

[sweet harness]

Also they are mostly poorly balanced for 64 players

128 players killed 2042 before it was born, and the heroes

[hollow harbor]

maybe you played breakthrough , that was VERY bad

[opaque atlas]

The good maps of the game are far few in between the crap it has

[opaque atlas]

Breakthrough on 6 wasn't good either

[narrow tapir]

If the distance is to big you can’t snipe offensively

[opaque atlas]

Played a few rounds quit most of them

How have they messed up my operations my boy