battlefield-labs-discussion

[raw current]

can we not break NDA for 24 hours? 😭

[long trail]

any news about weapons lock for classes?

[fair summit]

It's unlocked

[long trail]

so they dont listin for ppls

[fair summit]

nope

[faint pivot]

There needs to be slightly more recoil and a good bullet spread like from 4, gunplay is too similar to 2042 to me, felt like it too, too laser beaming. To easily to control what little recoil is there.

[nimble bridge]

I would prefer if they kept it low recoil high spread, higher recoil will only hinder PC players like myself, spread however is equal for all platforms

[nimble bridge]

I'm not playing lol, I'm not invited to any test, I just saw some clips on reddit

[faint pivot]

That makes sense tbf I just at least want the weapon to match the bullet spread, don’t have god awful recoil that’s uncontrollable, but enough to make it like a fuck yeah feeling when you’re able to control it

[fair summit]

They think they become mods if they repeat it 40 times

[sharp prawn]

Bf6 should just be somewhat a mix of bf4/3 with bf1 and v

[faint pivot]

I feel like 4 had recoil down perfectly you could get a nice control on it and the reward feeling of getting kills felt great

[sharp prawn]

Gunsmith for bf6 is acceptable

[raw current]

because maybe is a bad thing for you to break the NDA in the first place

[fair summit]

I'm not part of the test how can I break it bruh

[raw current]

breaking it will not get you invited either

[fair summit]

1. I can't break something I have not signed 2. Who told you I applied in first place

[nimble bridge]

I'm fine with whatever recoil want to use tbh, I've been switching back and forth from 4, 5 and 2042, they all seem okay, 2042 might be a bit too laserbeamy and harder to control at the same time due to broken mouse input though

[turbid isle]

Me only no five word

[sharp prawn]

4 made more sense of how real soldiers fire their weapons

[faint pivot]

2042 was almost too easy to control guns, gunplay got repulsive. In between Bf4 5 would be nice

[sharp prawn]

Like no soldier is mag dumping lead down range, just makes more sense for tapfiring at long distance and at close range well mag dumping

[fair summit]

I am fan of bf 1's recoil but I understand its not everyone's cup of tea, however 42 is way too laser gun

Perfection would be a middle ground between the 2

[faint pivot]

Yes full automatic fire creates greater spread over time, which begins to make you burst fire for better accuracy loved that feature made me feel like I was pulling a real trigger at times

[sharp prawn]

Yup I agree with you on that

[tepid plinth]

‘Pulling a real trigger’ aside, it just raises the ttk at distance so you have a chance to get up closer and have proper fights with people. That makes it fun. Gotta actually move instead of covering the whole map from one spot

[obsidian rune]

Found it

[slow lintel]

Good for you

Could not play but that was 4 hours ago

And last time you had to change your language to English (united States)

[turbid isle]

what is the keybind called for recon tug?

nvm

[faint pivot]

For me I don’t chase em down unless it’s close quarters, I stop firing fix my aim and sighting and lead them with burst shots I usually always get the kill this way if they’re at a distance. It creates a fun dynamic and gives you an adrenaline rush and better dopamine hit cause you actually worked for that kill

Aside from gunplay that maps scale and layout on battery is terrible. Way to linear even in bf4 the linear maps had space and room. These new maps feel too tight

It highkey looks like mw2019 in most recent leaks

[glad trench]

Wait until someone tells him about metro, siene, grand bazaar

[faint pivot]

Siene crossing! My favorite battlefield 3 map then garand bazar! But from what someone else told me
Vince zampella said he’s focusing on making these maps more linear anyways which i think is a dumb idea, battlefield is majority open maps with land sea and air elements the scale in bf4 maps are perfect to the soldiers pacing and the map layouts are perfect size for enough freedom and planning new games maps are just a bit too linear they need to be scaled up a bit more

[nimble bridge]

Issue seems to be shrinkflation of maps

[glad trench]

BF4 maps were the furthest thing from perfect

[faint pivot]

Just a bit, just in 72 hours I was able to learn and remember maps, it was creating repulsive repetitive gameplay that gave me the same experience each match which got stale quickly for me

[nimble bridge]

In BF3-4-1-V whenever you wanted to play a smaller scale version a conquest map you played Rush or BT, they cut the parts that aren't useful for BT/Rush so you had a smaller, more linear map. But now conquest maps(at least the maps we saw) are already small so whenever you cut them for Rush or BT they will be claustrophobic even

[tall urchin]

I think the biggest issue is a lot of maps are not even remotely designed for BT/Rush in mind.

Like if you play BT redacted you'd think it was the worst map ever designed and then you play it CQ/TDM and it all makes sense.

[faint pivot]

Exactly bro

[nimble bridge]

Some maps also works opposite in 2042 funnily

[covert nest]

Wake island bad on bt but amazing on CQA

[nimble bridge]

Flashpoint is awful in conquest imo, great in BT or Rush

[faint pivot]

Just from the rush leaks I was like this doesn’t even look fun I miss when rush expanded on maps like how it did on metro you were able to have the back outside area or it at least gave you a big portion of the map to play in

[nimble bridge]

Rush leak I saw was extremely claustrophobic tbh

[faint pivot]

Bf4s naval dlc had nice scaled island maps

[nimble bridge]

You can't move in that map, that's why conquest will be the main focus imo

[faint pivot]

Yeah it’s because those maps are already small for conquest, I personally already don’t like the map battery I just hope they scale the maps up a bit we need space and room battlefield has always been about freedom and sandbox they need to do it right tho not too big and definitely not too small

[covert nest]

I'm just not looking forward to the m320 spam. Looks way too easy to use.

[faint pivot]

Yeah I miss distancing my target leading then launching and watching the explosions land around them giving you better idea of where to shoot next🔥 was fun

Dawn breaker and siege was good scale for large map, flood zone and zavod was good for medium map, pearl market was good scale for small urban map it still could fit 64 players and have a decent flow, for soldier and vehicle pacing it worked out, lancang damn was one of my least favorites a bit too big and weirdly laid out almost too big

Then Silk Road is good for extra large maps they need to have a good variety for different game modes

[glad trench]

No they’re not, most of BF4 maps are just bad and “meh” at best (before levelution comes in and ruins 80% of them further)

Practically unplayable on anything other than conquest

[faint pivot]

Can’t agree w that but to each their own, another thing too I hope for the down animations they have a shuffle list of animations cause I hate seeing players rolling around waiting to be revived with the same animations it looks cheap and lazy

[foggy musk]

Man that thing we can't talk about is the coolest shit

My favorite battlefields were bf1 and 3.

[oak condor]

those are two completely different games

[foggy musk]

Yes so imagine the best of both worlds in a way

[tired tangle]

My biggest concern, according to what i saw in the leaks
Is that there're now two gadget slots instead of just one.
They basically just replaced the specialists gadget slot from 2042, with another class gadget slot

[foggy musk]

I had the same concern initially

[covert nest]

...That's always been battlefield.

[rugged seal]

there were 2 gadget slots in bf4

[covert nest]

You've always been able to use two gadget slots. This isn't something new.

[vocal axle]

Game will be fun. I want to see the US Army skins in more detail. Those don’t seem to have been revealed yet.

[oak condor]

it's 2+1, the two pickables plus the inherent class gadget

[covert nest]

Oh yeah the class gadget which is fine

[tired tangle]

Absolutely not.
In BF3, you had the class gadget, like repair tool + one to pick (SMAW, mines etc.)
In BF4 you had two gadget slots, but there was no fixed class gadget.

Now in Labs, it seems to be

• class gadget, like repair tool, med/ammo box
• gadget 1
• gadget 2

So 3 in total instead of two

[rugged seal]

you said that you are concerned because there are 2 gadget slots instead of just 1...

[covert nest]

Yeah you said that yourself about 2 gadgets.

[tired tangle]

Point is there's a gadget slot too much...

[tired tangle]

You said "it's always been", when it was not...

[covert nest]

Wtf are you talking about you worded what you said poorly.

[covert nest]

"My biggest concern, According to what I saw in the leaks, Is that there're now two gadgets slots instead of just one"
What is there to misconstrue?
It's always been like this in battlefield. Two free gadgets slots.

[ruby merlin]

Erm that's always been a thing

[nimble bridge]

Biggest issue is going to be rechargable gadgets instead imo, I heard rockets can recharge on their own 💀

Only rechargable class gadgets should be signature class gadgets, like spawn beacon, medpen, supply box etc.

[rotund viper]

rockets shouldn't be rechargable, you should have to go to an ammo box

[covert nest]

If the community wasn't so useless then sure

I don't like rechargable rockets too (and I truly doubt they are) but you know

[green bear]

I doubt they’d have engi’s regenerating rockets.

[gusty comet]

​There is an FPS game in my computer that has entered alpha testing, but whose name is still unknown.​🤓

[safe moat]

So, David Candland has joined the Battlefield Studios, he used to work on old HALO games, Destiny 2 and he was working on the Black Panther game that was cancelled

And he is the UI/UX director

He announced it on Twitter

[rugged seal]

His past 7 years must've been rough

[safe moat]

Yeah, but hey now he is on the new Battlefield

Peak UI/UX might be back

[slow lintel]

I just got an e-mail to take the survey, but I only got into load out … because the game said I needed to set crossplay on in the menu and on my console

[rugged seal]

[tepid plinth]

Literally everyone is saying that and it’s driving me crazy

That and ‘no recoil’ drives me up the wall

in what game has recoil ever been high

those same people will then complain about the people who have mastered recoil, and the cycle continues

[safe moat]

Unironically BF4 had this worse

Every gun was nearly a laser beam last I played

[tepid plinth]

Yet it’s the game some people directly compare to in comments

[safe moat]

People need to stop looking through their pink tinted glasses and ACTUALLY remember how BF4 was

[nimble bridge]

BF4 had high recoil without attachments, with attachments though you don't even need to control it

I'm fine with low recoil, what we need is high spread

[tepid plinth]

Yup

As a side note, had to enable secure boot to play 2042, literally took less than 5 minutes

What is it people were having trouble with?

[gusty comet]

they are lazy to use those brain, I've seen many of them

[covert nest]

Apparently with some motherboards it caused issues.

And entering the BIOS can be quite scary.

It's really funny cause on my end it's been enabled by default and I haven't had an issue with it since.

[tepid plinth]

Just had to generate the keys, activate it and boom

But I can attest to it being scary the first time you go in there. I recall having issues with it detecting the boot device and had to go into it the first time, thought one wrong move could kill the whole thing lol

[rugged seal]

[versed token]

I'm sure breaking your NDA is a good idea

[odd onyx]

Friends, I'm ready for more #BF6 tests. Invite me as soon as possible, I can dedicate enough time to it and since I've played probably every 3D game ever released and loved all BF, I'm ready to help with BF6. So go on. @severe anvil

[rugged seal]

"Why was i warned"

[true schooner]

i really like that

[true schooner]

bruh what...every 3D game ever?

[soft flame]

holy Jesus,i look through all the dialogues just want to have a chance to get into the playtest server,but i never be able to find it.since i first received the
confirmation email i also hadn't been invited to the playtest server by official members

[true schooner]

got some needy ones in here dam

[covert nest]

Every 3d game

I cant believe this community sometimes lol

[mossy marten]

Me reading this chat:

[mossy marten]

...... What?
Bf4 does not have high recoil

[covert nest]

Another self report there

[raw current]

im just wondering how these people got invited

[mossy marten]

Him or me?

[covert nest]

Him

My bad.

Reminds me I had someone say that to me on 2042, about controlling recoil LOL

[mossy marten]

bet
and yeah, the only BF with a modicum of higher recoil is BFV

[covert nest]

Bf5 had pretty high recoil i would say yeah

[raw current]

you know what other bf has high recoil?

[versed token]

none

[raw current]

my mom

[pale dew]

@severe anvil

[cursive ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-strategy-dodgeball-cotton-strategy-tactics-gif-4957668

[tepid plinth]

Because people who play in that test don’t get access to the others

[drifting imp]

Thats pretty sad 🥲 i play bf since bf 2 . But thx for the answer.

[tepid plinth]

I’ve played bf since it was first discussed in a pub in Sweden
Where invite

[raw current]

really?

[versed token]

[astral oracle]

Its so battlefover..

[wicked inlet]

hey when i go to do the signups for the playtest in guildford, uk i was notified about, the signup process swaps its location to Stockholm, Sweden. is this a known issue - should i proceed anyway or is there somewhere to alert?

[tepid plinth]

Yup. It’s just a server test, so they don’t enter the full on testing program

[raw current]

mi bomboclat...

[weary sable]

hi guys!

can you invite me in the party please? Migha87

[clear viper]

You can't say this btw

You signed an NDA about that playtest

[plain sleet]

.

[sweet yoke]

I thought the same. At this point if an open beta is released that's the only way. My opinion is if you have the bf labs app on your PS5 and it updates you shouldn't have to go through hoops to be part of it again.

Waiting for the NDA response but im annoyed. They want people hyped etc but the way these bf labs work is like a secret society. Lol.

[fleet robin]

that's because labs isn't meant to get people hyped lol

it's under nda for a reason

[clear viper]

You participated in a playtest to test server performance and were told you would only have access for that one test 🤷‍♀️ you're not owed anything

[sweet yoke]

Who said I was owed anything. Certainly not me. If you downloaded a app and it gets updated. Normality would say okay it's been updated for a reason. I'll give it a go.

Just bloody stupid how this is.

It is what it is but still shitty. Certainly not losing sleep over it.

[smoky pike]

I guess there is no way to get into the labs now?

https://tenor.com/view/triste-isolado-pensando-sad-isolated-gif-11165084073573897086

[atomic marten]

new "litterally COD" leak just dropped kek

[raw current]

btw I read on Reddit (since the NDA can be broken without a problem there) that if you get invited for that test you are back in the pool, because DICE said it somewhere apparently

[raw current]

what black ops 2661?

[atomic marten]

what?

no, a leak that makes people say that bf6 is litterally cod

[raw current]

oh ok I was memeing the fact that we are getting an absourt amount of black ops

[weary sable]

Hi guys,

[mossy marten]

lol

reddit being reddit

[atomic marten]

i mean i feel like this one is pretty valid tho

[mossy marten]

oh no, a slide!
must be CoD

[atomic marten]

its more than a slide

[mossy marten]

from what i saw, it's a slide

[atomic marten]

its what you can do and how effective you can do it while sliding tho

[mossy marten]

yeah, doesn't look effective at all and is probably death sentence using it, just like the BF1 slide

[atomic marten]

maybe we seen different things than

[mossy marten]

they should have just brought back the bfv slide and called it a day for the slide

"wah wah wah"
slide looks ineffective and useless

[faint pivot]

Visual recoil hater hates when people complain about a game that needs feedback, no one cares bro,

Dice, At least put a fucking cool down on it if you’re not gonna remove it

[mossy marten]

Slides always had a cool down in BF, you have to full sprint to use them unlike CoD

[faint pivot]

This doesn’t look like a cool down bro back to back sliding

[pulsar shard]

they want the cod fan boys thats why

[faint pivot]

Back to back sliding no cool down

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/ngWSKb4D3v

Sliding hoping and diving need at leasssssst a 2/4 second cool down

[mossy marten]

bro shows a clip of a dude hitting a rock and tripping and not a slide

[faint pivot]

Bro is completely in denial of the facts and hates being challenged and didn’t watch the clip and see the double slide back to back

[mossy marten]

also posting leaked footage in here, pretty smart there

[faint pivot]

Good thing it’s not my footage and I didn’t get an invite goofballlll

[atomic marten]

its still agains the rules of this discord

[mossy marten]

^

[faint pivot]

Ok go tell on me

[weak obsidian]

idk man I'd just aim and shoot that guy

[faint pivot]

Nice still needs cool downs

[mossy marten]

yeah, the slide looks literally useless, just aim 2 inches down and he dead

[atomic marten]

but that guy is already shooting at you

[weak obsidian]

do you want a minute cool down on slide lol

[faint pivot]

If it’s useless it shouldn’t be in the game then, contradictions are all you’re speaking

[pulsar shard]

at this point add the tags movement shooter in the new battlefield

[faint pivot]

Would be preferred

[weak obsidian]

insurgency sandstorm has a slide, it's a movement skibidi shooter ...

[mossy marten]

if bro saw bf3 and bf4 movement, he'd be scared
and that's not including the glitched stuff

[pulsar shard]

oh yeah have you seen the bad company movement?

[atomic marten]

time cd is dum, just make it enretia based , like you just cant slide unless you go a certain speed

[faint pivot]

Who cares battlefield isn’t call of duty or insurgency sandstorm you keep proving our point that battlefield isn’t call trying to be everything but battlefield🤣🤣

[faint pivot]

No time cool down is needed in a game like battlefield if you don’t like it go play a game that doesn’t have it bubba

[pulsar shard]

cause there is none because the frostbite engine of bad company is well designed compared to the shitty engine of BF4

[weak obsidian]

Battlefield is a fps and so are the other games I've mentioned

[faint pivot]

It helps pace the flow of the game

[pulsar shard]

full of glitches unitended mechanics etc

[weak obsidian]

they're both frostbite

[pulsar shard]

yeah im talking about the version of frosbite that bc have

[feral garden]

Bro be like "dont like it go play somethign else", until somethings suggested they dont liek and its "Reee, no you cant do that!!!"

[atomic marten]

so all previous bf?

[rotund pier]

Bad Company is such an ironic name for a title of a game by EA now that I think of it

[faint pivot]

That’s fine so is volerant so is arma reforger so is call of duty all having their own playstyles which battlefield has always had its own playstyleeeeee weak argument

[weak obsidian]

movement glitches are not engine level, sorry but you're genuinely stupid if you think so

[faint pivot]

Bf4 had hoping cool down jump too much and you can’t jump anymore

[faint pivot]

Try again

[mossy marten]

sure buddy sure

[weak obsidian]

isn't this guy like 0.5 KD

[pulsar shard]

it has to do with the engine you dont know better than a developer you are stupid

[atomic marten]

talking about sliding tho, kinda unfortunate that your comprehension goes down when youre mad :c

[feral garden]

BC2 and BF1 are hyper popular "bottled lighting" BF games, because the movement in them is so basic, and better suits the casual player (AKA, 80% of the playerbase)

[weak obsidian]

no? movement is dictacted by the player controller

[pulsar shard]

engine is everything for the games,and its one of the reasons why people find out bugs,exploits and unitended mechanics to abuse

[weak obsidian]

have you ever coded in your life 💀

[faint pivot]

No I’m talking about sliding diving cool downs and No one’s mad your baiting just sucks😂

[pulsar shard]

I have

[faint pivot]

All you do is talk but won’t hop in a match with me 😭

[weak obsidian]

an engine is not cause of every glitch or bug lol

[pulsar shard]

It does without engine there is no game

engine is like your motherboard without that there is nothing

[feral garden]

the engine isnt the cause of movement bugs. Its caused by how movement is programmed in the engine

[atomic marten]

motherboard without code also wont work

[weak obsidian]

so you're putting the blame on the engine and not programming of the systems?

[pulsar shard]

yeah which is the reason why engine matters

[weak obsidian]

man you stupid as hell 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[pulsar shard]

engine and the program

[feral garden]

I dont think you fundamentally understand how games are made, or what an engine is TBH

[pulsar shard]

go look yourself in the mirror pipsqueak

[fair summit]

Bsod touch grass

[feral garden]

I have worked in game dev for 11 years, I understand m8

[weak obsidian]

yeah guys... every glitch is because of engines...

[pulsar shard]

I do the engine is everything

[faint pivot]

The circle jerk crew is back at it again attacking everyone who doesn’t want slides in the next battlefield game 😂

[pulsar shard]

engine and programming goes together of course

[faint pivot]

Doesn’t care if Half the features don’t make it into the game but still will argue with folks for hours and try and belittle and prove why your opinion is wrong😆😆😆😆

[pulsar shard]

Now you can throw insults like the kids you are cause this the only thing you are good at

[feral garden]

The engine isnt the cause for movement bugs tho. They could have fixed all BF4 movement exploits, just chose not to

[weak obsidian]

I will throw insults if you're straight up wrong lol

[feral garden]

Not a single insult was thrown BTW. Saying that someone doesnt fundamentally understand what an engine is...is not an insult

[faint pivot]

Quite the Gooofy obtuse bunch

[weak obsidian]

making everything an issue with the engine is insane

[pulsar shard]

they couldn't fix the exploits because they give up on the game long ago

they dont fix them cause it takes soo many hours to work on this old frostbite version so instead they moved into working on BF1 and BFV

simple as that,most of these exploits were found years later after they stopped the support of BF4

[feral garden]

They didnt bother because 0.05% of the playerbase abused it. the vast majority of BF players dont even know what you talk about if you say VouZou or Zouzou

[pulsar shard]

thats what a kid like you would do

[weak obsidian]

yeah it's like developers don't really change the mechanics of games that have their live service ended

[pulsar shard]

The support was cut out thats why they didn't

[weak obsidian]

not to mention only the top 0.1% used them frequently

[weak obsidian]

unc in chat 💀 🥀 💔

[pulsar shard]

and they didn't wanna bother fixing things like this in an older Frostbite engine version so instead they fixed them for the later games like BF1 and BFV

[mossy marten]

and only on certain maps
can't use those glitches on most maps lol

[pulsar shard]

newborn 👶 🍼

[weak obsidian]

go back to bed gramps

[pulsar shard]

im 23 i could take you all day newborn

[weak obsidian]

23 💔

[pulsar shard]

go back to sleep its past your bedtime child

[weak obsidian]

I saw someone practicing it on dawnbreaker once

[mossy marten]

i mean yeah, you can use it, but won't be useful outside of cqc maps, except for some niche situations
ain't gonna save you on silk road for example lol

[weak obsidian]

yeah he kinda just died lol

[mossy marten]

that's expected

[weak obsidian]

you can't be doing this gimmick, you're not even born in the 1990s

[feral garden]

Bro was still in 3rd grade when BF4 came out

[pulsar shard]

2002 is closer to 1990s than you lol

[weak obsidian]

unc stolen valour

[mossy marten]

[pulsar shard]

yeah still and managed to play all battlefields cause of my father lol

also 3rd grade ages are from 8-9 get your maths right lol, i was 11-12 when BF4 released

[feral garden]

Math aint mathing, if youre 23, you were 10/11 when it came out

[atomic marten]

you cant even get your facts right, you can keep jumping indefinitely you just cant move around anymore when your hidden "stamina bar" gets drained from jumping, and a stamina bar isnt the same as a time cooldown. its also kinda weird that you take a stance like im some cod player salavating at the sight of any added movement "tech"

[pulsar shard]

do the maths 2025 - 2013 ,im born 2002 so 11-12

[feral garden]

23-12 = ?

[astral oracle]

69

[mossy marten]

correct answer

[atomic marten]

nice

[astral oracle]

:D

[feral garden]

What is the name of your first pet, or the street you grew up on?

[steady robin]

☝️

[atomic marten]

you tryna get his pasword?

[pulsar shard]

i was 11-12 right

[weak obsidian]

you were 13 when final stand came out 💀

[pulsar shard]

yeah my bad cause if you do 2025-2013 it gives you 12,i said 13 by mistake cause i was talking about the 2013 release of BF4 ,i meant to say i was 11

[faint pivot]

It is a fact tho whether it was bf3 or bf4 if you hop back to back there is a cool down period, that doesn’t let you hop back to back the fact is that needs to make a come back

[feral garden]

I dont really care the age, I was mostly meming.

[atomic marten]

by process of elimination that would be bf3 than

[feral garden]

I was older than you are now when BF4 released haha

[pulsar shard]

yeah i get it but i wasn't really talking to you bsod i dont get why you defend this kid

okay you are older,and so i am compared to those kids here atleast i played the good bf games unlike these newborns here

[weak obsidian]

woah... I'm not a newborn ...

[manic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-gif-8044179

[astral oracle]

😂

[weak obsidian]

the slide animation looks good now

[lusty horizon]

Hello World

[slate hazel]

I saw that

[lusty horizon]

xD

[tepid plinth]

Gotta stop checking in on the bf sub
It’s mind numbing at times
Don’t make the same mistake I make

Anyways, hoping we get another blog soon

Dying to have some actual discussions with people who don’t just call it a cod clone

[mossy marten]

I make the same mistake

[tall urchin]

Reddit inherently is mind numbing, I couldn't imagine exposing myself to the BF reddit of all things.

[mossy marten]

Don't
Not worth

[vocal axle]

The dumbest fans over there. That’s reddit though.

Reddit killed 95% of the good Internet forums, that’s reason enough to not use it. But the biggest reason is it’s just dumb shit.

[mossy marten]

only useful thing it's good for is niche tech issues

[tall urchin]

Nah I'm sure some obscure forum has the answers I ne-

"PM'd you the fix :)"

[faint pivot]

Actual discussions? Lmao people are telling you over and over how it’s a cod clone you just refuse to listen, what else do you wanna do go to court trials over it?

[faint pivot]

It’s not per say exactly that but there are plenty of elements that are obviously cod inspired it’s as clear as day to people who have played battlefield since some of their first titles

[faint pivot]

I mean ex cod devs literally are working on the game itself, it’s to be expected but is it wanted from majority of battlefields core community? Helll no that’s the point

It doesn’t take much IQ to understand this

[gleaming sonnet]

imagine if in the next battlefield they bring back the behemoths and one of them is an ac130

[young jetty]

They won’t

[gleaming sonnet]

that's sad. I honestly would liked to see an ac130 in battlefield
havent seen one in conquest since battlefield 4

[young jetty]

Yeah same but apparently it’s not

[gleaming sonnet]

that sucks

[weak obsidian]

AC-130 in contested airspace

💥

[young jetty]

Tell me how is it a cod clone?

[mossy marten]

[ruby merlin]

Becuase the the the the animations!!!!!!!

[minor linden]

I never really understand people calling it a cod clone. Imo Bf has always been a slower paced cod (because of larger maps and vehicles). Even regarding that though, this bf is not even close to being like the cod everyone hates

It has some aspects of cod, but I’d argue it’s more like old cod than new cod

[young jetty]

The animations just looks like what a proper modern battlefield should look like.

[ruby merlin]

Yeah idk why people complain

[covert nest]

Old cod being the mw2 to black ops 2 era

I remember when "old cod" meant cod 2 and cod 4.

And i say cod 2 because it was mechanically superior over 1!

[nimble bridge]

DM'd you the fix 🙂

[spare wigeon]

I don’t think it’s a bad thing to have animations similar to CoD.

[distant fractal]

In COD different vibe, in BF if a person runs across a field while their comrades are being fired at by a helicopter, they scream in pain, and the person plays with the magazine, reloading it 360 degrees and pulling the bolt with two fingers, it just doesn't fit. But now COD have better animations technically😊

[distant fractal]

I'm not talking about secret reload BF animations

[sturdy steppe]

BF also has force reload

[prisma crow]

Is BF labs server on ? Cuz i downloaded the update and the new content ...but nothin shows in the main screen

[distant fractal]

What you mean? I'm about animations in COD looks funny, like not u soldier on war, but like u ipad kid😁 after the school in Nuke town with vector, and doing all crazy stuff with ur weapon

[sturdy steppe]

Overstimulated 9 years old kid essentially

[tepid plinth]

Unlike you, other people here actually have nuanced thoughts.

I just refuse to succumb to the calling it that because it’s a broken record. People have been making these claims for years, and it’s just annoying as hell when people just make the same claim that everyone else has done, provide some example, then have that example disproven because the very systems they criticise have existed before in the very games they love.

It’s cod this, cod that. People called bf3 cod, now look how much it’s appreciated.

It’s just annoying

[astral oracle]

Bf ain't cod. It's literally a different name, if it was cod it would be called cod 🙄 come on everynyan

[fleet robin]

me when a game has inspect animations

people hating on everything nowadays

[oak condor]

validating two decades of braindead discourse because we let the cod guy direct the new game as an emergency replacement

[covert nest]

I think I'm more used to the cod discussion because people calling things fortnite annoy me more.

[oak condor]

i thought bf discourse was at rock bottom after bf1 brought in a whole bunch of people who don't actually like playing shooters but it's going to be so much worse once the new game hits lol

[covert nest]

It's gonna be a fun farm at least.

[tepid plinth]

I’m glad I haven’t heard that much recently but my god does it do my head in

[covert nest]

I heard it way more 2018 to 2020 for obvious reasons.

With stints here and there. (really though)

[rotund pier]

The only fortnite thing is what CoD is doing with it’s skins, that franchise is over, it lost it’s entire personality

Used to be a war game, now it’s like cringe paintball or some shit

The worst part we’ve seen in Battlefield that is comparable to CoD / Fornite is idk, the Ssnta Claus skin for Boris

[weak obsidian]

isaac clarke is in fortnite and battlefield!

[rotund pier]

That one kinda fits oddly enough

[nimble bridge]

CoD = Wannabe Fortnite, BF = Wannabe CoD

[leaden kraken]

Aside from actual gameplay decisions, this is the biggest deciding factor for me. Battlefield shouldn't be afraid of its own identity to appeal to a modern wide crowd. You've always been playing as "just another soldier" in a giant conflict in BF, which is the way it should be. I don't mind customisation as long as it's appropriate for the setting. I don't necessarily mind paid cosmetics either, so long as they fit the setting.

[rotund pier]

I don’t mind if they give us skins like in MoH: Warfighter, those soldier skins were fire

Also wouldn’t mind if customization was something like the newer Ghost Recon’s games

[sturdy steppe]

And this is the beginning

[sturdy steppe]

I'm fine with "just another soldier with his own equipment"

[rotund pier]

Didn’t they remove the skin after backlash

[sturdy steppe]

idk

They clearly wanted to have out of place skins in the game tho

[rotund pier]

Yeah but 2042 was barely a BF game

[sturdy steppe]

They should do something like hardline as setting for pushing some whacky skins

[rotund pier]

Only carried the franchise’s name

[leaden kraken]

I remember in BFV a lot of the more ridiculous cosmetics didn't make it into the game at launch after backlash, like the prosthetic arm seen on the female soldier in the reveal trailer. Pre-pacific update and post-pacific update feels like two entirely different directions for the same game. While it's not necessarily "realistic," it is more authentic to Battlefield

[feral garden]

It annoyed me so much when BFV was said to be copying fortnite when it had reinforcement building 🤣

[covert nest]

I REMEMBER THAT

[leaden kraken]

Reinforcements were cool

[sturdy steppe]

is the player character react to grenades in BF 2042

[covert nest]

I VIVIDLY REMEMBER THAT. IT WAS SUCH A REACH.

[rotund pier]

The folding shields are just reinforcement 2.0

copying CoD instead of Fornite

[covert nest]

Building and reinforcements are good elements because it keeps the maps rolling.

[sturdy steppe]

I don't mind copying good elements that fits in the game

[rotund pier]

Me neither

[sturdy steppe]

But never played BF V

[rotund pier]

The problem is when they copy the shittier aspects, like how 2042 introduced specialists and wanted to introduce stupid cosmetics like CoD’s

[tepid plinth]

Halo reach?

[feral garden]

I always felt the reinforcements were not all that useful. You'd spend 2 minutes building them and a rocket or grenade destroys it all in a second. Tank traps and stuff like that were good tho.

[sturdy steppe]

What about in infantry maps

[feral garden]

I'm a conquest player and even on those I found their use minimal. Anything you build can be used by enemy team to attack and defend also

[covert nest]

I think them being just as easy to build as destroy at least contributed to the life of the match.

[leaden kraken]

Agree, BF doesn't need "specialists" or "heroes," the division between the classes is enough

[nimble bridge]

Folding shields?

[tepid plinth]

Irish shields

[feral garden]

But also made some flags worse, as if no player build them, or it's left to you to do it.

All things considered, it was a cool feature and I mostly agree with you. These days you don't see a lot of players build them tho.

[rotund pier]

Idk what they are called, she shield that opens up 🤷‍♂️

[covert nest]

I liked that you could build guns too as a support

[rugged seal]

one of the field guns on hamada that overlooked the bridge was always a nice spot to build up

hit a few planes with it

[feral garden]

Would be cool for them to do similar buildable tow or at4 launchers in a modern game.

[covert nest]

Absolutely.

An engineer sub class specialising in field guns would be so good.

[feral garden]

It would mainly give more purpose to their repair tool.

[rugged seal]

would you want to be able to place it anywhere or just have there be set spots that it can be placed

[feral garden]

Na, just set spots as it was in past games.

[nimble bridge]

Well that was also in 2142 tbh, not new to BF

[naive tiger]

Are we allowed to talk about bf labs here?

[covert nest]

Uhhh vaguely all I can say is tread the minefield carefully.

[nimble bridge]

I'm convinced when reddit asks for recoil they are asking for visual recoil

[inland glacier]

Forgot how good bfv plays lol

Bf1 is good too but..

Something about it

[minor linden]

I’m on the fence about this, but I feel like it could be cool to add the quick reload feature from games like insurgency.

Like, you can double click the reload button to do it faster, but you lose any bullets left in the mag

[leaden kraken]

Cod AW had that too, it was the only one to ever have it, and I think it would be a neat feature in more shooters

[nimble bridge]

I hope DMRs feels good in this game, went back to BFV and assault DMRs feels amazing

Never really liked 2042 DMRs although broken mouse input also plays a role, can't consistently get good shoots

[astral oracle]

Ah yes, the inputs fault.. (jkjk)

[nimble bridge]

Burst weapons feels awful in 2042 too, it's just too broken to be enjoyable with anything but high RPM full autos

I hope BF6 fixes those issues

[oak condor]

DMRs felt way better to me than automatics for whatever reason, maybe because you could be lazy with tracking

i think DM7 spamming is the intended way to play the game

[stark leaf]

Guys any news about Portal ?

[astral oracle]

I dropped 2042 very early on unfortunately. Idk why but I put in maybe 30ish hours and it just wasn't clicking with me at all. After I got past the nicely designed maps and seeing the tornado rip through the rocket, it just fell..flat. portal was a very neat idea tho.
But labs has shown me extreme promise and I'm incredibly impressed

[inland glacier]

Ending June with a bang right Dice? (Cope)

[molten flame]

Anyone in here play Delta Force?

[weak obsidian]

I played it for a hour and thought it was dollar store 2042

[clear viper]

It is

[covert nest]

I theorise gamescom.

[minor linden]

"Nicely Designed Maps"

Idk what game you were playing but it def wasn't 2042. 2042's launch maps were abysmal

[digital radish]

I am starting to think BF6 might have a chance

No other competition other than BO7 which no one is excited about

[tall urchin]

Or they get complacent knowing they have no competition and can just chase the casual audiences.

FPS in the last several years have had a better chance of failure than success outside of CoD just having a hostage audience.

[weak obsidian]

I mean why wouldn't they

there's money to be made 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑

[ionic iron]

Does anyone know when the next time we’ll get a taste of the new battlefield I just joined

[gusty comet]

It's been about two weeks since the last time

6.13-6.27

[digital radish]

This is the realest thing I've read all day

[astral oracle]

I meant pretty 😭 not nicely designed

[true schooner]

i hope we can do the emblem glitch like in bf4 where you could make your sleeves all one colour 😔

[lilac nacelle]

Any news? Where s class system topic pt 2?

[twilit belfry]

I register at day one to try the new bf

and they still didnt invite me, i wrong something?

[versed token]

Nope it's simply random to get invited

[faint temple]

Is there any update on the revive date

[stark sentinel]

no, sadly

[faint temple]

👍

[tepid current]

Today new post from Battlefield?

[true schooner]

Maybe trailer drop?

[minor linden]

Unlikely

Would be great, but it’s unlikely that anything will drop today. They said we’ll know when it’s going to drop though, so we might get info about when the showcase or trailer drop happens

[sweet yoke]

They really need to do something. I know getting people hyped for BF6 isn't a bad thing obviously but the hype is past that. Many are clamoring for anything new which is why leaks are occurring. I'm not a fan of free to play but delta force was announced for console release. Not saying delta force will do anything to BF6 but the fact that delta was shown for console is a big deal for some and anything bf6 wise may get lost. Just my opinion.

[versed token]

Delta is already dead

[sweet yoke]

You won't know this entirely because it hasn't been released on console yet.

[frigid flare]

the one thing battlefield 2042 got rigth that there,s different modes and dosent feel too little played, that is the problem with the other battlefield games, with private servers there will always be set maps and that kills varity in my opinion

like i can play alot of team deathmatch for one day and then go for qonquest for the next and it dont feel old for me

wich is what i hope to see in the new battlefield

[sand moth]

like.... Ziba Tower!!!!! haha

[mossy marten]

ewwww. a scam bot

[fresh python]

Hello, EA Help directed me towards this discord to reach out to the playtesting team for help. Is there anyone I can talk to privately?

[severe anvil]

Hey there. You got incorrect information or some mixed up info. Reaching out to the playtesting team is correct, they are not on Discord though. Please email [e-mail]

[fresh python]

Alright, I'll try that. Thanks.

[glad trench]

People still delusional enough to think delta force has any bearing on BF

[sweet yoke]

You don't know this zeethos. Nobody does. From the console trailer comments I'm seeing there are many who are excited about it on the console. Stop talking like your word is gold. It could be very successful or it may not. I'm not a fan of free to play at all and I'm just going by the general reaction of the console trailer which does look good.

[astral oracle]

I am excited to see delta force on ps5 finally, and yes it'll be a good time, but I'm dashing DF out the window when bf releases

I need that bf fix so bad.. I'm fiending for it.. I need it 😫

I have a question, what did people think of Hardline? What are some things you'd wanna see from hardline in the new bf? My one thing would be bangers on the radio

[glad trench]

And it’ll die off in interest just like the PC version did where people only play it because they want BATTLEFIELD

it’s like anytime WoW was in a rut over the last 20 years

[tall urchin]

Not to mention DF has a lot of flaws, a lot of which we were tired of from 2042 before DF was even released

Laser beam gunplay, a lot of stupid specialist abilities/wallhacks, plus shit like EOMM, a somehow even slower drip feed of content, and they keep buffing the most annoying specialist everyone hates.

[feral garden]

Only game in history to break its peak player count every 3 days or so, but be a relative ghost town when actually searching for games. 100% not a botted playercount!!!!!

[wild elk]

Take off specialists in Delta Force and its a sick extraction shooter / bf life, I stopped because I got tired of all theses abilities always spammed

[nimble bridge]

I would’ve played DF if not for SBMM, new movement operator looks cool

[inland glacier]

Even that game has class locked weapons lol.

[feral garden]

Locked weapons in a game where the gunsmith can turn a revolver into a semi auto sniper doesn't matter.

[inland glacier]

Ik just an astute observation

[tall urchin]

Class locked didn't matter anyways without spread

[abstract path]

Well I would agree with your take but SA servers (Brazil) in every Battlefield (even 4 and 3) are still with tons of people even today. If you check Battlefield 4 right now there are 10 servers at 64+ full, and it's not even the best time schedule to play, at night there are even more. So I don't get why Asia, for example, has access but we don't. You have no idea how much people play in SA.

[faint temple]

So much for the June boom 💥

EA

[weak obsidian]

EA

[tall urchin]

Now it's July, DICE has fifteen seconds to comply

[faint temple]

👀 👀

[glad trench]

Ewww a European

[weak obsidian]

it's been July for 10 hours already

[molten flame]

Well since we wont have a new battlefield for atleast another year there should be plenty of fun to be had on Delta Force for the time being.

[rugged seal]

Its planned to release before March 31, 2026

[tall urchin]

Worse, I'm Canadian

[fervent aurora]

Just gonna throw this out here. This kind of testing should become an industry standard. Games cost so much to produce, and cost more for players. Games should be a win win for everyone, and Labs is setting the new standard.

[mossy marten]

Until people decide to ruin the good stuff by leaking

[fervent aurora]

That's an unfortunate consequence of trusting the public lol. Good marketing though when the game is looking good

[mossy marten]

Maybe
But if the game wasn't good yet and leaks occurred?
That's a double edged sword

[fervent aurora]

Hmm yeah. I guess it's more incentive to make the game good before putting it out there. I agree that it's a risk though

Skate seems to have had that issue with people thinking the leaked footage is final product level

[nimble bridge]

If BF6 is delayed to 2026 instead of Q4, 2025 then I will most likely play BO7 🤷

There is a leaked 20v20 mode in it too appearently, probably with less SBMM

I ain’t gonna buy it though, would rather rent it for a month or two on gamepass

[weak obsidian]

I hope the co op campaign is fun

[boreal harbor]

I hope it's optional co-op for the campaign

[clear viper]

I imagine it will be, I don't imagine them making it coop only

[boreal harbor]

Fax

[sweet yoke]

I didn't play Delta Force on PC but I'll give it a go. The trailer on the PS5 youtube channel is showing off some very impressive destruction in my opinion.

Very impressive

[ruby merlin]

Chinese Knockoff battlefield

[lilac nacelle]

Where trailer, where class update pt2

[sweet yoke]

Who cares if it's Chinese. Can give two shits. If a game is quality then it's just that. If it's terrible I'll be the judge of that also.

[lilac nacelle]

Played delta forces, there are some good ideas but that game sucks..

[feral garden]

I wouldnt put it past the DF team to hire people to come to servers like this to spread such opinions lol

They do it on steam reviews and their YT videos afterall.

[versed token]

Very impressive aka just the built in destruction UE has

[molten flame]

I feel it. I hate cod so much I really don't want to play another one ever again. I have a lot of friends who buy the new cods whenever they release and I am the odd man out still playing a dated battlefield game lol.

[tepid plinth]

You either buy cod every year or live long enough to become a league player

[karmic scaffold]

Mad question here, Im UK based, played every BF since 1942, in good standing with EA etc. Enrolled in playtesting and preferences updated correctly since 2023 ish from memory. Any reason I wouldn't have seen an invite to test the new game?

[nimble bridge]

Actually turns out BO7 won't have wallrunning, jetpacks or pick 10 🥱

It's basically going to be BO6: 2, no reason to play it

[rugged seal]

its just a random selection

out of probably like 1million+ the chances for a lot of people are low

[karmic scaffold]

Okay dude, make sense! Thanks for the steer.

[tough zinc]

uhmm...

uh... yeah? DICE?

trailer? please?

[young jetty]

Honestly should we even be hyped for a shitty CGI trailer? 2042 trailer was amazing but when the game came out it was horrendous.

[nimble bridge]

Yes

[young jetty]

You are apart of the problem why we get so much garbage half baked games

[feral garden]

No fun allowed, hear that guys! If you are looking forward to an announcement trailer, you are part of the problem!

Did you ever settle your dues with @winter viper , or are you still ducking them

[young jetty]

I didn’t make any more bets so please be quiet

[feral garden]

[mossy marten]

[nimble bridge]

Most people outside of BF and maybe COD communities aren't even aware BF6 is coming out this year. Officially revealing the game would create discussion and hype around it.

[young jetty]

Hype has been dead for battlefield ever since BFV and 2042 came out

[glacial orchid]

Yeah how about that June 17th Trailer bet or was it June 19th according to "his sources" that he couldn't discuss under NDA

[young jetty]

Who said about sources? It was public information that didn’t came to fruition.

[glacial orchid]

Sure. Keep telling yourself that 😂🤣

[young jetty]

Yeah whatever

[winter viper]

it wasnt "public knowledge". You made comments and a bet (Still waiting) based on a screenshot from steam about a possible (and false) update, and pretended to have some insider knowledge.

[young jetty]

When did I say I had any insider knowledge? It was public information that never came true.

[mossy marten]

[winter viper]

You've implied it multiple times. Its the same in other discords you're in, including the one recently shut down that was posting a ton of leaks.

[covert nest]

I am going to make a theory that we will maybe see one this Gamescom considering that's when the big gaming events happen and my brains pattern recognition.

However nothing is yet officially confirmed and as such, Waiting for official news.

[young jetty]

[winter viper]

Highly doubtful

[covert nest]

OH yeah for sure. It's a theory and I do hope for that but when there is a trailer ready it's ready.

When a date is confirmed it's confirmed.

God I forget it's the First of July. It feels like we're closer to September than anything else.

[winter viper]

This is the game that has to bring DICE and EA back to the forefront, and its important that it gets all the attention. I'd imagine theyd want all the focus on them and a epic trailer, so I'd say they would probably do their own Trailer/event thing.

[covert nest]

Sorry as in like it feels like it's August.

They also want the game in good enough to state to make a trailer off too if they want to use in game footage.

Who the fuck knows. I don't.

[winter viper]

I'm glad its not August yet lol. Not ready for the constant 100+ degree heat for 100 days

[tough zinc]

I mean battlefield reveals the new game in may june, we are in july I just want to know the name and see something

[feral garden]

If they plan on releasing this year, I think there will be some form of event and announcement this month (July), then a big presence at gamescom. Doesnt really matte rto me when they release it tho. More time to cook is better

[tough zinc]

not asking much

[covert nest]

It's freezing over here.

[winter viper]

Aussie?

[covert nest]

Yes.

Same region as Cyanide and Akwa.

[winter viper]

it was a nice 34c yesterday...August averages 36-46 lol

[feral garden]

33c here today

[covert nest]

10c today. -.-

[feral garden]

PC gaming weather

[winter viper]

thats right, now I remember. Sorry, memory is not as good as I hoped lol

[covert nest]

I'm unironically gonna get some drinks to force bloodflow.

[covert nest]

It makes sense you remember than more than me.

[feral garden]

Do you guys have AC over in Texas, or is it not all that common?

[covert nest]

Cause I am NOT involved with the creator space. Ironically.

Despite being in the game changers program! (This is a cooler name you cannot convince me otherwise)

[winter viper]

If you get hyped for it you’re an idiot simple as that.

So you are admitting it?

[glacial orchid]

AC is a must for most of South/Southeast US lol. Its too humid

[covert nest]

I planted some rosemary and I can't wait for spring where it's gonna be more developed.

[covert nest]

Those minimums are fucking awful.

[winter viper]

its a must, and I have 3 aircons in the house set at 15c, and it still gets to 24-25c inside the apartment

[covert nest]

Jesus christ. Maximums can be ok to deal with but when it comes to rest that is awful.

When I get to work because I can use as much as I want I just set the aircon there to 35C.

I'm sure one the largest corporations in South Australia can afford it. :)

[winter viper]

language, young lad. No need to get your panties in a twist. Dont need you over hyped.

[feral garden]

We use the ACs here sometimes, but we live beside the sea, so opening windows gets us a nice cool breeze

[covert nest]

I need to fix my bug door mosquitos keep on flying in.

[young jetty]

Go outside and do some cardio or something

[covert nest]

I literally get assaulted every night by the blood sucking bastards.

[feral garden]

We have sliding nets on all our doors and windows.

Cost like 400 bucks for custom frames, but its worth it

[winter viper]

East Texas for you in C

[feral garden]

Also pet proofs the house, so our cats cant escape through windows

[covert nest]

Wait are they not default?

Here bug windows and doors are by default.

[feral garden]

Na, they are optional in most places here on installation.

[tepid plinth]

Good god

[covert nest]

I don't want to say they're mandatory but because of how we prioritise airflow cause of hotter days they're always there.

[feral garden]

Doors and windows here are all non standard sizes. You have to get everythign custom

[tepid plinth]

I forgot everything in Australia is there to get you

[winter viper]

Why dont you think for a few days and come up with another date you think the trailer will drop and I'll be here waiting to watch you be wrong...again

[covert nest]

Thank god Im not a south londoner.

Or a Sydney sider.

[tepid plinth]

London has it so much worse than here it’s crazy

23 and I’m hiding in the basement to stay cool :/

[tepid current]

Anyone knows when we can expect a new Labs blog post? Last one was way over a month ago. It was called "part one". Well I'm missing part two.

[glad trench]

Last year Central Valley CA went like 90+ days of consecutive 100° temps with minimums barely making it below 70°

Lasted until like mid October, it was so ass

[feral garden]

21c doesnt seem all that bad for minimums

[tired gyro]

so this is gen chat 3

[winter viper]

Yeah we had that once. 128 days of 100+ heat. Even at night it was still 94 with 90% humidity.
Literally every lake in our area almost dried up. Killed so many trees, fish and wildlife

[fossil coyote]

whens the next test peeps any info?

[tepid plinth]

Dunno

[winter viper]

Between today and next year maybe.

[rugged seal]

[mossy marten]

[tepid plinth]

Oh my word

[glad trench]

I’ll take one for the team and click on these links

[rugged seal]

If only there was a place to make tickets for stuff in the discord smh my head

[feral garden]

Thank God I used the 100% working app > report inappropriate content feature, which 100% didn't tell me they did nothing because they did nothing wrong!!!

Most useful bot service EVER.

Chat full of scam links FTW I guess.

👍

[past perch]

bro got hacked

[covert nest]

Is this for real

Jesus fucking christ.

[past perch]

they all tryna download the new bf6 off some sketchy fake links LMAO

classic

[rugged seal]

one guy a few weeks ago did realize he got hacked almost immediately and he said it might be from doing stuff related to pubg

[past perch]

oh yeah my pubg mobile acc keeps getting hacked by turks, i keep getting emails like once a month or so lmao but idc

[glad trench]

I get banned for a week cuz I posted a Reddit link with leaked info, but this shit is allowed to stay up for over 2 hours

[covert nest]

Woahhhhh

[gusty comet]

my schedule in playtesting is empty, what's wrong?

although I can, I don't know what time

[rugged seal]

bruh

[glad trench]

Mods just make it so we can’t post attachments

[versed token]

Nice

Even more scam links up for several hours

[willow trench]

whats the deal with the attachments? never heard of urls being hidden in files

[fair summit]

This is what happens when u dont lock classes

Spam bots

[nimble bridge]

👆

[tired gyro]

a shame that it’ll also effect the regulars

[feral garden]

Bro these scam posts are out of control 😄

[loud frigate]

Please keep reporting them! We are on it!

[rugged seal]

i notice that some of them are in the bfee server but don't do it there

unless i just miss it

[feral garden]

Did they disable attachment posting there?

I had to do that in my server and it stopped

[rugged seal]

in some channels it looks like i can

[feral garden]

It seems like these are mostly not new, but compromised accounts.

[rugged seal]

yeah i tried looking up some stuff on the discord reddit to see if anything has been posted by people who have had their accounts hacked but havent seen anything

[feral garden]

Would be nice for servers to be able to auto prune inactive users

[rugged seal]

lol

maybe they should make a post in #server-news encouraging people to change their password and enable 2fa just in case

[tepid plinth]

Since the support channel and bot is now gone what do we do if we see them. Ping a cm?

Doesn’t seem right to do so

Since I doubt they’d want to get pinged every 5 minutes

[loud frigate]

Please use the report functionality which is shown under "Apps" > "Report Inappropriate Content"

[tepid plinth]

Where do I find apps

[rugged seal]

right click the message

[tepid plinth]

I’m on mobile :(

[rugged seal]

umm press and hold it maybe

[tepid plinth]

Ah no there it is, found it

Okay there we go, cheers. Thought all support and report features had been axed, thank goodness

[rugged seal]

i unfortunately dont think it works that well but its whatever

[tepid plinth]

Unless I’m just dense and it’s already been mentioned, a server news announcement for this change could be nice

Oh hang on no I am just dense it says it in the related channel above

These guys are like hydras my god. Just don’t stop

[raw current]

what is going on

[rugged seal]

it would be nice to learn if they have something in common. I've brought it up a few times but someone a few weeks ago said he did something related to skins in pubg and used his discord and thats where he thought it may have came from

[tepid plinth]

Something bizarre

[raw current]

like a bizarre adventure?

[safe moat]

begging for a reveal this month

[nimble bridge]

Same☝️

[versed token]

How are this many people falling for this

[rotund pier]

curiosity killed the cat

[dusky wing]

Is there any live test going on atm ?

[versed token]

Maybe

[dusky wing]

I still have it installed but cant access it anymore

[versed token]

Truly a mystery why

[tall urchin]

1.jpg
1.jpg.exe

[dusky wing]

Idk if your being sarcastic or na but I havent done anything against nda so ..

[fair summit]

dont break nda guys i heard one guy got taken to police station

[tepid plinth]

Most likely remnants of the stress test

[dusky wing]

Ohhh alright 👍

[winter viper]

🤦‍♂️

[bold fjord]

Admitting that you're in labs is actually a breach of the NDA
Hence the name
Non Disclosure Agreement

[fair summit]

disgusting

[molten wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/spatial-basket-space-jam-strike-gif-24416891

[nimble bridge]

It’s over

[glad trench]

surprised y'all ain't freaking out over the arstechnica piece on BF6

[feral garden]

Its basically a copy/paste of everything that happened during BF4s development.

[nimble bridge]

Also BFV 😂

[glad trench]

yup but this community likes to take any bit of negative news, put a tinfoil hat on and let it rip

[feral garden]

Not much use in any of us worrying about it.

MP looks great, which in reality is the only part I care about.

[nimble bridge]

BFV had a clear vision appearently from the start though, it’s issue was rushed development

[feral garden]

(Sorry any SP devs in the chat, but it is what it is)

[glad trench]

the article did make sense why they haven't "announced" the game to me

single player sounds like it might get cut... BR/Glacier modes delayed etc

[nimble bridge]

They should delay BR but release SP imo

[feral garden]

Doubt anything will get cut, just scaled back worst case scenario

Delay the thing that will get them the most players, in favor of the thing that people will play for 5 hours, then never again. /s

[glad trench]

have you seen r/battlefield lately?

you'd think BF3/4 campaigns were Band of Brothers quality

[nimble bridge]

SP is good for marketing, they can delay BR for a month or two though, I doubt it will launch with BR anyways

[feral garden]

Delay the whole thing, take time to make it as good as it can be. Its not like the playerbase is going anywhere.

[nimble bridge]

Also while BF6 is competing with GTA6 BR won’t compete with it

[feral garden]

Hope everyone on the dev teams are staying as happy and rested as possible tho. Crunch and burnout is no joke.

[nimble bridge]

BR is F2P and PC won’t have GTA6 anyways

[glad trench]

nah bro you don't understand, most gamers won't touch another game in 2026 after GTA6 launches

[rotund pier]

The what?

[mossy marten]

There's multiple links on the subreddit with the article

[rotund pier]

I see I see

Absolutely 0 surprises seeing the current state

[glad trench]

0 surprises because every game's dev could be summed up by that

[vocal axle]

It’s a good piece. These studios are beholden to shareholders with unrealistic expectations. The best battlefield games were 1942, 2, and Bad Company. Games with focused scope and clear identity. This chasing of cod and Fortnite that every AAA studio is doing is a huge killer.

Battlefield should succeed within its own successful niche. But when a studio gets too big for “reasonable” revenue to be viewed positively… you get dumb shit.

[boreal harbor]

What do you mean?

@vocal axle what happened?

[glad trench]

again, like BSOD said, this has been a thing since forever. BF4 development was a clown show of clown shows.

watch after GTA 6 gets launched, they're gonna make development stories on that game sound like a gulag

[boreal harbor]

Ah ok, so false information trying to make Battlefield 6/EA look bad?

[glad trench]

no, just fairly normal development fiesta within the AAA world

[boreal harbor]

Ah ok, my mistake

[glad trench]

CD Projekt Red self publishes their games and go read up on cyberpunk and Witcher development stories

[exotic talon]

bf4 was last time they really cooked

[glad trench]

you mean after it took 12+ months for them to fix the game?

[vocal axle]

A piece with a number of former and current EA employees basically saying that the new game is being built to satisfy a number of unrealistic investor and corporate leadership demands (competing with Fortnite and CoD, live service, 100 million players, battle royale freemium aspect, bombastic single player campaign that’s actually a mess, etc.) rather than creating a game within the reasonable expectations of what a Battlefield title should be. The piece seems to imply most of the issues are developer crunch and a campaign that’s had a lot of setbacks and poor leadership. Hopefully the multiplayer is still solid and hopefully the suits at EA don’t ruin it with live service crap.

[boreal harbor]

Ah ok that has me worried, because I and many others just want a great Battlefield game that is Battlefield, also reasonable expectations is the gaming industry needs to go back to, but that's a conversation for another day.

[tall urchin]

Honestly any FPS that wants 100m players to me says everything I need to know

[digital radish]

Well now I have no idea if we are fucked or not

[boreal harbor]

A 50 v 50 mode in the Battlefield multiplayer wouldn't difficult to do

[boreal harbor]

Where did you get 100m players from?

[vocal axle]

Sorry I meant 100 million not 100

[digital radish]

So you guys think the article is essentially nearly meaningless or?

[vocal axle]

They want 100 million total people playing battlefield like it’s Fortnite or something

[vocal axle]

… no. It’s pretty alarming. The article says the only saving grace is that they’re working off a strong multiplayer core experience.

[digital radish]

Well damn

[vocal axle]

Well, if the multiplayer is good, maybe they’ll salvage it. But it’s bad because the studio prioritizing live service and massive scope is a doomed recipe.

[glad trench]

100m with no context. Apex has had 100m people play it along with many other games. a free "good" BR makes that easily achievable over a course of time

[feral garden]

Studio execs want record breaking performance. In other news, water is wet.

[glad trench]

unless it's substantiated by other sources/reporters it's run of the mill AAA development story

[nimble bridge]

GTA6 campaign will be like 30-40 hours long imo, and unless they release GTA Online at the same time with GTA6 people will stop playing it

[glad trench]

exactly, the majority of people will play it for 2-3 weeks, finish the story then go back to other games or new games

[digital radish]

GTAO will prob be 30 days after, but it's gonna take most people more than that to finish it. Most ppl are super casuals

[glad trench]

if y'all don't think GTAO won't be the most broken/busted turd for months, idk what to say

[digital radish]

Probably will be like V was

[nimble bridge]

Well they delayed the game because they wanted to focus on GTA Online's server capabilities, we however don't know if GTA Online is going to launch at the same time as GTA6, they might even release it 6-12 months later like what they did with RDR2 Online and GTAV Online

[digital radish]

To be fair tho I think they learned a lot from GTAO, they know it's going to pop off on day 1 and are probably preparing for that. They almost did not even incl an economy in GTAO at first

[digital radish]

GTAO was lauched 1 month after

[nimble bridge]

Was it?

[digital radish]

It was I played it lol

idk about RDR2 tho

[nimble bridge]

Mandela effect then lol

I thought it launched a year or two years after it

[digital radish]

Speaking of RDR2 they just got an online DLC yesterday i think, after years of no updates

[nimble bridge]

Well I never played RDR online(or GTA online) so I dunno lol

[digital radish]

[boreal harbor]

I agree

I want a good/great Battlefield single player campaign, these upper management suits need to back off

[vocal axle]

The best battlefield game has ever done is 30 million-ish with BF1. 100 million active players is an absurd goal for battlefield if you want it to actually be a battlefield game. The fact that you’re comparing it to free “good” BR games… man why even make battlefield at this point. Why not just play Fortnite with battlefield skins lol.

[boreal harbor]

Fax, we want Battlefield, a great one at that.

[glad trench]

I'm obviously refferring to the possible BR mode that will release the game that will give the game a chance to reach 100m players. no one is saying the game will sell 100m copies, not even EA would try that

[vocal axle]

It’s awful that this is at all a goal of the people making.., battlefield.

You will not be playing battlefield if there’s a battlefield BR mode with 100 million players. That will be the focus.

[glad trench]

It's not, creating new experiences using old formulas is how games/gaming evolves

[vocal axle]

You’re asking for… Fortnite chasing.

[glad trench]

No, I'm asking for experiences beyond the growingly stale conquest formula

[vocal axle]

Oh man

[boreal harbor]

Oh, so there might be an optional BR mode then? Oh well, I'll just avoid that and play regular Battlefield multi-player and the single player campaign then

[glad trench]

using BF DNA, doesn't have to be a BR. Can be any type of fps experience

[vocal axle]

Dude there are a zillion mediocre battle royale games do you really want battlefield to become one

There’s no world where a battlefield game that gets 100 million BR players doesn’t just become a BR game.

The actual Battlefield unique identifiers become an afterthought.

[boreal harbor]

That's a valid concern to have tbh

[glad trench]

Warzone is the main bread winner for CoD over the past ~5 years. They still pump out the normal SP/MP expierence

[vocal axle]

The normal experience has dropped off significantly as a result

Literally everyone who enjoys core cod multiplayer hates that lol

[glad trench]

is the BR the result or is it because that SP/MP forumla is at a crossroads of becoming irrelevant in general and the BR is the only thing keeping it alive

[vocal axle]

It’s trend chasing. The market is dumb.

[minor linden]

Eh. Maybe if the BR is amazing, but imo BRs have massively died out

[boreal harbor]

I think the issue with COD Warzone is that game design philosophy has changed and shifted from Warzone being designed around the regular COD multi-player experience to the COD multi-player experience being designed around the Warzone experience.

[boreal harbor]

Aside from Fortnite & Warzone and Apex, we don't see successful BRs out here

PUBG as an outlier, maybe?

[glad trench]

market saturation, increasingly harder to breakthrough and get a playerbase settled when all the big publishers have gotten entrenched. takes something with a big IP/entrenched fanbase to spearheard that.

BF has a chance. Firestorm was a good BR, stupidly stuck behind a paywall while everyone else had moved to f2p

[glad trench]

relying on doing the same thing for 20+ years is equally as dumb

we also have no idea what this "Glacier" mode will turn out to be. For all we know it could be the greatest addition to BF ever

[boreal harbor]

I don't have a problem with an optional, separate "BR" mode for Battlefield 6, but I don't want that to take precedent over having a great single-player and multi-player Battlefield experience.

The SP/MP modes should be the priority

[minor linden]

I can see why you'd think this, but I don't really think Warzone is the reason Cod has gone down

Cod in general just isn't top tier anymore

[glad trench]

BF has never had a "great" single player experience. why should that get a priority

[boreal harbor]

Well at least a good singleplayer experience

[boreal harbor]

I agree, COD Black Ops 6 (in terms of the campaign & multi-player) was one of the best Black Ops games since BLOPS 2 and one of the best COD games since MW 19 & 2022

[minor linden]

Even Warzone is seen as one of the worse BR experiences now

[glad trench]

normal COD MP has gone down because just like arena shooters of the yesteryears, people just don't give a damn about 5v5/6v6 arcade shooters. The BR didn't take away from it, it's just a dying genre

[boreal harbor]

I think for the best and most comprehensive Battlefield game, it needs to have a great SP/MP experience first and foremost & a separate "BR" mode that is still Battlefield & not have the zanyness of Fortnite BR or COD Warzone.

[vocal axle]

There are very few Battlefield experiences and very many battle royale experiences. I want a military team-based large-scale shooter. I don’t want another Fortnite.

[glad trench]

they're literally making that, it's the only part of the game we've seen

[tepid plinth]

that's exactly why I feel the idea that 2042 was a br first to be so proposterous

just, no.
the game wouldn't have launched as just a br and there be no mainline game

[tall urchin]

From a developer standpoint it makes no sense, but from an out of touch multimillionaire executive one it also makes perfect sense

[tepid plinth]

that is true

[boreal harbor]

Do you think an optional, separate "BR" mode for Battlefield 6 that doesn't have the zanyness of Fortnite BR or COD Warzone would a good compromise?

They can release it afterwards as long as we get a good/great singleplayer and multi-player experience from Battlefield 6 first and foremost.

I do agree with what you're saying about how there are few Battlefield like games/ experiences out right now

[rigid siren]

so has there not been any tests lately?

[nimble bridge]

Glacier is the codename of BF6

[glad trench]

ya thinking of "gauntlet" or whatever it's called

[nimble bridge]

Yeah

Granite was the BR I think

Granite shoals
They all sound similar though due to them starting with G lol

[vocal axle]

If they ruin battlefield At least we’ve got ArmA, 83, Squad, Insurgency, and the upcoming Bellum. Heck some of these are even on console now. Thank god for the indie devs who are still willing to make games about grounded military stuff.

[tepid plinth]

Trouble is those games don't offer the same general pacing that I love battlefield itself for

[nimble bridge]

I don’t think arena shooters are dying, I think issue is in art direction more than anything

[glad trench]

BF and "grounded" military? um what?

[tepid plinth]

sure it's got the big scale but it's the combination of everything that makes it

[tepid plinth]

people just aren't releasing many, and the ones that do get shut down a year later

which sucks big time cause I want more of them :(

[nimble bridge]

Arena shooters in the style of Quake or Halo are 100% dead but in the style of CoD and Titanfall can survive imo

[tepid plinth]

felt to me like marathon could be a sort of lean back into that feel, but given how that's going...

[nimble bridge]

Marathon isn't even an arena shooter 💀

Splitgate 2 is but it's not doing well tbh, I think issue is with TTK more than anything, people generally dislike long TTK games

[tepid plinth]

but it's an extraction shooter sort of leaning towards it again, which is the point I was raising

[nimble bridge]

That's why CoD became so successful too tbh, it was an arena shooter with fast TTK and progression systems absent from regular arena shooters with no progression and slow TTK

[tall urchin]

Yeah people hate long TTK because it shows clear skill gaps

[nimble bridge]

Fast TTK can have skill gap too, at least on PC, I'm generally better at tracking than flicking tbh

Issue is with consoles you don't even need to flick, AA will do the job for you

[tall urchin]

And long TTK has RAA which outpaces human input

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, that's why I prefer faster TTK in a game like CoD or BF

With crossplay at least with fast TTK I will have a better chance to win 1v1

[tall urchin]

I like moderate because you get a bit of both plus it helps with the inherent issues of connectivity and different platforms

Long TTK is my personal favourite but no AAA dev is doing it without CoD/Apex level RAA

[nimble bridge]

Long TTK won't work in a game with respawn modes in modern era, it's not the trend and games that are using long TTK aren't doing well tbh

[tepid plinth]

the finals is doing wel still though

[nimble bridge]

Finals has long downtime if you lose though, 30 seconds between respawns

[tepid plinth]

I wish work wasn't so hectic and I could play more splitgate

soon enough i'll get some time off hopefully :>

it's a case where it feels like if you don't play it right away it's just gone

[fickle frigate]

I remember playing the Finals when it was in Alpha but I was on a low end PC at the time, how is it now?

[feral garden]

I kinda love the long downtime on death in finals. In a game with essentially infinite respawns, it makes death matter more

[boreal harbor]

Hmm, not opposed to that

[minor linden]

Cross play needs to be either removed or heavily limited

ATP it’s done more bad than good

[glad trench]

jesus you guys are so hyperbolic about crossplay and console auto aim

[faint pivot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/S49MZMZ9uJ

so basically everyone wanted class locked weapons but directors said no, smh

We need the old dice dev team back frfrrr

[glad trench]

Today: Classy learns how management works

[feral garden]

Devs don't make design decisions. Game designers do.

[glad trench]

you think games are made democratically?

okay guys, we need a majority vote on whether we're moving this HUD element a few mms to the right

[weak obsidian]

go play the finals then

[faint pivot]

at least we finally know everyone even wants class locked, hopefully the management will listen.

[faint pivot]

I already do lol it ain’t battlefield tho maybe they need to make another military shooter

[glad trench]

that tweet does not indicate every dev wanted class locked

[faint pivot]

It indicates a lot

[glad trench]

it might mean that 50.00001% wanted it

[feral garden]

That post was actually about how many toilets to put on each map.

[minor linden]

It’s not hyperbolic. Console plays totally different from pc. There’s a reason console players are seen as worse than pc

[glad trench]

no, I'm saying the hyperbolic part is how crossplay has done more bad than good

[weak obsidian]

warzone is pretty bad when it comes to kbm and roller disparity

[faint pivot]

I just hope they switch it back to class locked, it’ll feel & be an authentic to what battlefield was🔥

[glad trench]

switch it back to 1 weapon per class, per faction because that is true authenticity

[faint pivot]

Nah that’s just devolving, switching back to the formula that worked isn’t devolving if the new formula wasn’t favored or didn’t work well

[weak obsidian]

so if evolution is more weapons...

[minor linden]

I'd still argue that that isn't hyperbolic. The only good thing crossplay has done is allowed friends on different systems to play together. Pretty much every other side effect is bad

[faint pivot]

Bring on all the weapons, but set to specific classes to help balance out the gadgets.

[weak obsidian]

nope

I will accept class locked weapons if we have faction locked weapons and attachments 😛

[minor linden]

Back to the HL system

[glad trench]

y'all keep saying open weapons didn't work with a type of authority that is hilarious

[nimble bridge]

I want class locked weapons because it makes certain weapon types more popular and classes more distinct

I don’t see myself ever running an LMG or a carbine if every class can use SMGs or ARs

Make it like BFV and I will play support to use FG42 or BAR

[weak obsidian]

I mean they are basically ARs...

[minor linden]

Yeah. It's hard to tell whether or not open weapons worked considering all the other failures of 2042

[nimble bridge]

I also like chauchat

Pretty underrated weapon, basically a big slingshot rather than a gun

[weak obsidian]

I suck with it in BF1

rather use the burton or something

[peak steeple]

I’m so good with it in BF1 but bad with it in BF5

💔

[nimble bridge]

Key to chauchat in BFV is tap firing

[empty yoke]

Im just confused on why they never followed up on it lmao

Its been a month and theres 0 communication

Now people are reporting issues internally (allegedly)

[oak condor]

there's nothing to follow up on, they posted their direction and that's it

what, you thought they were serious when they said they wanted player input from labs? lmao

[covert nest]

Things they do change for the positive don't get reported on. While I understand greivances and all, It's only the unchanged stuff that gets reported on.

[urban meteor]

Will the game have input-based matchmaking?

[versed token]

Maybe

[tired tangle]

Nothing in this tweet indicates that this is even about battlefield
Blured name, no link to the tweet, no mention of classes, weapons or anything.
The OP also hasn't replied to any comment

Everything about this post is sus and could just be false information..

[lilac nacelle]

my brain is melting seeing these news, we are waiting for you guys at DICE, we are with you!! keep up the good work!!

[sharp prawn]

Battlebit does a decent balance with weapon locked for the classes

[covert nest]

What news

[tough zinc]

istg if they have again a damn deadline cause of EA and the final product wont be ready im gonna riot, take your time DICE

[opaque barn]

Dont give us the release date already

[rapid fox]

Today is 6 weeks since last official labs blog...

[feral garden]

Youll get more when its ready to be shared

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[simple knoll]

I was thinking the same and noticed no updates in the updates. I wish we could be invited to the table to see what new things are being worked on or worked out.

[rapid fox]

Shocking

[feral garden]

Patience sure is shocking.

[sharp prawn]

Patience has a long way

[hollow slate]

I've played since BFBC2 most of BF titles especially BF3 and BF4, veteran here and entirely voting for open weapon system like the latest one in BF2042, I think that was only good change in BF2042,

Imagine you need to run certain class to help your squad and you cannot use your favorite weapon that is awful.

I do respect other opinions but this is what I think is best and many others does, maybe that is why they keep.

[warm wedge]

But let's be honest... Medics running with sniper rifles is just weird

[covert nest]

And really, Realistically. People wouldn't be running them on medic.

[warm wedge]

They sure won't if their class can't equip it

[covert nest]

You are missing point. People who play medic consciously play it on the front and snipers wouldn't work there.

Locking it doesn't matter since those same players would be sitting back.

[mossy marten]

oh no, the big and scary medic with a sniper that's more useless than a recon with a sniper 😱

[dry grotto]

If I would like to play Snipers, I would almost 70% choose medic

[warm wedge]

But sniping from far, with just having unlimited heals ..or unlimited ammo (if you play support) just isn't promoting healthy gameplay

[dry grotto]

And 100% using Angel

Just because I can have unlimited health and ammo

[gusty comet]

when is the next test? there is a update of the lab in steam

[mossy marten]

https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/1335993005450199072/1387869650859200523
taps the sign

[gusty comet]

sry, i see

[covert nest]

I gave the article a read, Highlighting the issues with the development of this game. I don't want to think this stuff is standard.

I hope whatever happens the game is "delayed" internally.

Could argue it is a little fearmongery but it's a good read.

[dry grotto]

I meant, they can "delay" the campaign

[covert nest]

You should be aiming for the head.

Heals don't matter. Ammo doesn't matter either cause the same people die and come back anyways.

[mossy marten]

AAA games nowadays are built off of crunch and crazy expectations
everything for the publisher/investors

[covert nest]

It is lose or lose.

[covert nest]

I met up with a former EA employee in Amsterdam funny enough!

[mossy marten]

oooooo, that's neat

[covert nest]

He told me the long hours he did. But we meme'd about Terraria and got high together.

[dry grotto]

There are companies allows developers to meet those crazy expectations, but EA is not one of them.

[mossy marten]

noice (about the terraria and getting high part, not the long hours lol)

[covert nest]

I think EA exercising the correct amount push is good but hearing about the blow ups and shit ain't helping.

[covert nest]

Haha don't worry I understand. He is good people.

WAit I need to reword what I said.

[dry grotto]

They might be too arrogant, and not so innovative

[covert nest]

Yeah. What I meant to say I think it's fine for publishers to excercise the correct amount of push but hearing about development hell internally doesn't yield confidence.

I am confident in the team in what they can bring out. They might even have to bite the bullet.

[tepid plinth]

I’d rather not read it in case it happens to be exaggerated and not properly correct

[young jetty]

100%, BF6 just looks likes a 2042 clone with a BF3/4 reskin on top of it

[dry grotto]

It is what people want right?
DICE do listen, sometimes...

[young jetty]

No we don’t

[dry grotto]

Well I do want a BF4 reskin into a more modern mechanics

[young jetty]

From the gameplay it doesn’t even look a traditional battlefield game imho

[tepid plinth]

I don’t quite see how you came to that conclusion

[young jetty]

Game just looks like a MW2019/2042 clone

[rotund pier]

because of the lack of classes

[tepid plinth]

Well, how

[young jetty]

The COD ADHD movement, the gameplay, lack of unlocked classes, etc, most of the maps are COD style maps.

[zenith stirrup]

Anyone got any info on when the next round of invites for battlefield labs goes out I really wanna play the game

[tepid plinth]

Or you could see it as close quarters bf style maps, which people were begging for, and movement akin to 4, 5, 2042 as opposed to just being ‘cod’

Heck half the movement stuff we have is straight from V, and the ‘movement’ movement is intentionally throttled. So

[young jetty]

Quit shilling for the billon dollar corporation, when the game turns out shit and buggy like BFV and 2042 don’t come here and start complaining.

And responding to your question nobody asked for every map to be a fucking CQC map, we want maps that has cover and flow and not soulless.

[tepid plinth]

Okay

[covert nest]

So hostile for no reason wow

[young jetty]

I’m not hostile at all

[covert nest]

Seemed like it.

[tepid plinth]

I’m just sick of people calling something cod all the time

[young jetty]

No

[covert nest]

No. The gameplay for the new battlefield looks like a standard game.

A game that works for multiple playstyles.

People kill shit. Thats the point. And will optimise the fuck outta it.

[worthy rain]

Still sad fortifications didn’t make a comeback in a revised form

[covert nest]

Can it be annoying. Yes. But that is the nature with online multiplayers.

[young jetty]

They literally brought in Vince Zampella and Byron Beede for this game, and a dev came out and said their dream is to turn battlefield into cod.

[covert nest]

Their history on the franchises only means they have a portfolio on what works or not.

An ex ubisoft head is in the battlefield team but they arent gonna turn it into assassins creed.

Nevermind the dozens of devs from multiple backgrounds but I digress. Pointless topic.

[nimble bridge]

EA should hire me I will give them 100 gazillion players

[young jetty]

Just accept the fact that DICE is not the same DICE as before, they’re still making dogshit decisions like not having locked classes, named soldiers, BRs, etc.

[covert nest]

"This isnt the same dice as before"
No really? Don't have to tell me twice.

You present this ground breaking information to someone who loves researching the development of games to understand what goes on internally.

Devs cycle in and out. It is normal in this industry.

[young jetty]

When this game flops it’s over for the franchise

[covert nest]

Heard that before too

[tepid plinth]

In the end I just find it exhausting hearing the same comments made every time a game comes out without anyone actually explaining why

You at least gave some reasons, which is better than most. Usually it’s just ‘cod this, cod that’ which is just a useless conversation

[young jetty]

It’s looks like a COD ADHD gfuel ridden slop mess.

[tepid plinth]

One reason why I just refuse to look at reddit currently

[covert nest]

It really doesnt mean anything anymore.

Like what. People run and gun? You have to actually say something this time.

[tepid plinth]

If bf4 was released today it would get the same treatment

Heck, it did when it came out anyway

They have been actively tweaking the systems to make it actively not that anyway, listening to the people and making those changes

[covert nest]

People were pretty damn coherent with criticisms with media on the internet all the way back then.

[young jetty]

all what we want is a BF3/4/1 type of game with modern graphics, how hard is that to do?

[covert nest]

The writers for the simpsons were pretty well aware about the criticisms for their show way back at season 10.

Its really interesting listening to the sentiment on it.

[tepid plinth]

That’ll only just exceed their expected counts hehe

[feral garden]

To me, the next game looks to me like a mix of BF1 and V movement, with a mix of V and 2042 gunplay, on-top of some new stuff (whatever they spoke about where recoil will show you how to counter it, ETC). With the aesthetics of BF1 (Battle detail, destruction, art) but in a modern setting.

All we have seen class, faction, gadget & weapon wise points to them having a pretty cool and authentic modern military game in the works.

People often say it looks like MW2019, but wasnt that a really good game, just lacking in areas? Like why is that, with BF mechanics, destruction and the classic combined arms a bad thing?

[nimble bridge]

🤣

[tepid plinth]

My honest theory as to why people said it looks like mw was down to the new weapon sway, animation style and map layout. I don’t see how the rest is that much similar

Maybe the colour schemes I guess but I haven’t played mw enough to have its ‘style’ imprinted in my mind

Excluding the hundreds of reload animations from it I’ve studied to make my own

Gadgets are just bf4 gadgets with some 2042 utility ones in there, nothing egregious yet like wall hacks or turrets which were of course the big offenders last time. Weapon mechanics like v, movement like v. Just, yeah

[tall urchin]

I remember the BF3 release vividly and everyone called it CoD

[tepid plinth]

Funny that

[tall urchin]

Now it's "real battlefield"

[young jetty]

It’s literally just a 2042 clone with a BF3/4 skin on top

[feral garden]

k

[rotund pier]

Well yes, minus the wallhack, dumb specialists, and slower movement, and more destructiom

it’s still a fps, idk what you expected

[young jetty]

I expected something different

[rotund pier]

Like what?

[young jetty]

Bf is on its last legs, if this game fails it’s over for the franchise.

[rotund pier]

The only thing that killed my hype is the trash class system, besides that, I think the game’s alright

Though it really does look like it needs one or two more years in the oven

[young jetty]

Well that’s your opinion and I respect it

[rotund pier]

But what did you expect?

You say you wanted something different, but what is it

[young jetty]

A BF3/4/1 type of game with modern graphics

It’s not that hard for DICE to do, they have the blueprint right in front of them and they still choose to make horrible decisions.