battlefield-labs-discussion

[half halo]

And received BF2042 for free, due to playtesting

The Irony

😂

[silver cedar]

That’s why

[silver cedar]

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

[mild girder]

only mail i got from ea today was for Split Fiction. I will play it this weekend with a friend but man i also wanna play Labs

[nimble bridge]

Should've bought skin bundles

And battlepasses

[silver cedar]

Oh god

[nimble bridge]

To get invites easier

[half halo]

Facts, I shot myself in the food

[silver cedar]

Guys come on the skins In 2042 are good

[half halo]

Damn financial morales

[silver cedar]

I bought from the shop a couple of times

[nimble bridge]

2142 inspired skins are good, rest of them are meh 🥱

[mild girder]

Oh man, im about to buy something from the EA Store. I hope i will get some good news in my Mail regarding Labs for spending my Money for their great Games

[half halo]

Have fun with SF !!! 🙂

[silver cedar]

I like mostly all of them

[mild girder]

They wont let me down, all their games were bangers

[half halo]

Yep!!!

[silver cedar]

I’m gonna try to get max level today for bf4 I’m level 96 so fucking close

[mild girder]

i recently bought BF4 on a new account to level again but forgot the login details lol

[silver cedar]

Damn

GO GO GO

requesting order

[steep bear]

has anybody gone to montreal to playtest?

[silver cedar]

I need a vehicle extraction

[half halo]

No

[silver cedar]

I’m pretty sure you can do it from home

[steep bear]

all this talk about playtest starting soon, wondering if they're doing playtests in montreal too? #general message

someone mentioned they got an invite, but someone said it isn't BF, i wonder if there's a way to check?

[mild girder]

Its pretty simple 🙂

If you dont get an email that you are invited to BF Labs, you are not in

If you get a Email for a Playtest, its a different Playtest and NOT Battlefield

[silver cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/can't-say-signed-an-nda-nda-gif-16828022276150034788

[steep bear]

makes sense. i see why they might be mysterious and just say "playtest" for that person though

[mild girder]

It was always like that

[steep bear]

are you just speculating though?

[mild girder]

...

They should have never made BF Labs Public

jesus

[wispy dagger]

lol

agreed

first wave should have just been people that have already been signed up for playtests

[mild girder]

frfr

Get some Feedback from people that really wanna give Feedback and not just get to play the next BF Early

[nimble bridge]

Defeats the purpose

[mild girder]

Not really

[half halo]

This a 1000%

Of course because my odds of getting in would have been even better ehwhw

[mild girder]

They did not playtest the next BF for a year lol maybe half but not a full year

[half halo]

What I hate is the fact that probably at least 20% of those who registered are not even interested in BF at all

[nimble bridge]

Check your DMs

[wispy dagger]

in house though isnt it

Yeah but we’re saying semi public testing should have started first with just people already signed up

But who knows maybe it did

[spice bramble]

Trust, you'd know 100% if you were invited

[mild girder]

Well, better start reading carefully.

Like you should read the NDA youve signed not to talk about the Contents of the Mails you receive

[shy linden]

Looks like the initial play test start is PC only for now?

[wispy dagger]

I’d assume so

[tired gyro]

[spice bramble]

Not just

[mild girder]

consoles too

[young jetty]

No it’s for consoles too

[nimble bridge]

2003*

20 years in the making

[young jetty]

COD reference 🤯

[nimble bridge]

Bethesda reference actually

[half halo]

No, PS5 for sure also

I've yet to see confirmation for Xbox though

[mild girder]

tomorrow probably

[nimble bridge]

What if PS bought the marketing rights for BF this time around? 🤔

[mild girder]

they will send keys out that day

[fleet robin]

starfield flashbacks

[half halo]

Maybe Xbox Will also be later.

It's known that Xbox takes more time than all other platforms to greenlight New builds

[half halo]

Given Xbox acquired COD, that could be a possibility

[young jetty]

Hopefully makes state of play bearable to watch again 😭

[nimble bridge]

I just want to see 2 minutes long CGI trailer full of member berries again

[half halo]

[mild girder]

I love how so many people that dont know shit about these playtests now talk everything that is written in an article which is false in some ways lol

So many think its just PC only now

[hallow escarp]

is what i heard

pls dont ban me ea

[steep crane]

an ea employee is on way to your house now

[tough zinc]

any news?

[wispy dagger]

Yeah next battlefield leaks shows it’s gonna be a racing game

[mild girder]

Battlekarts

[mossy marten]

SuperTactical Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars
iykyk

[half halo]

I dig that

[mossy marten]

thanos snapped message

[half halo]

[mossy marten]

i wouldn't be surprised

[inland oyster]

🤣🤣🤣

[fleet robin]

people been breaking nda for like a month

rip playtesting account

[inland oyster]

In this server too ???

[fleet robin]

ofc

they can't read

[inland oyster]

Wow

[mossy marten]

DICE can we get a thanos infinity gauntlet emoji 🤣

[inland oyster]

I don't know what y’all think but I'm not against the return of Commander mode with a mobile app like what we got with BF4…

[hallow escarp]

wait

where did my message go

someone deleted it

[inland oyster]

Admins

[mossy marten]

it went nowhere and everywhere
it is in limbo forever

[half halo]

It's in the abyss 🙂

[inland oyster]

I love your name

[half halo]

[nimble bridge]

Thanks

[vague barn]

@inland oyster Good car.

Wouldn't mind seeing a Fennek in the next game tbf.

[inland oyster]

I had this name before the car 😅

Fennec is a fox from my country

[vague barn]

I imagined so, but I really like the Fennek recce car.

[gritty hearth]

Turn it off.

I SAID, TURN IT OFF!!!

-Marshall

[young jetty]

Shittest cod campaign ever in my opinion

[gritty hearth]

Respectfully disagree, that title goes to Vanguard.

[young jetty]

BO6 felt like you’re were playing bio shock

[gritty hearth]

Black Ops 6 was some tuff shit.
...Even though I watched someone play it because I don't own it, but that has to count for something.

[gritty hearth]

I'm okay with that. Black Ops has always been more conspiracy-based.

[nimble bridge]

BO3 is worse imo

What were they thinking with that?

[young jetty]

I mean a COD zombies director made the campaign

No wonder why it was so weird

[nimble bridge]

You need to follow a zombies easter egg quest to understand BO3 story

[fleet robin]

campaign wasn't bad it was just too high iq for most cod players

which is fair enough, you should know your audience when making a story

[nimble bridge]

It wasn't high IQ, it was told in briefing that lasts for 2 seconds

[fleet robin]

you should see how many people say they didn't understand and had no idea what was going on

train go boom

[young jetty]

The missions were good but the story was just terrible

[nimble bridge]

2042's story is high IQ because it's told in loading screen quotes

[gritty hearth]

However...

Train go boom.

[nimble bridge]

Funny meme, they wasted a talented actor though

[young jetty]

I didn’t even know 2042 had a story

[nimble bridge]

Typical CoD fashion honestly, they also wasted Kit Harrington in IW

[gritty hearth]

It does.

Just no campaign.

[gritty hearth]

RELEASE ME!!!!

IW is one of my goats.

[young jetty]

I can’t even imagine 2042 having a campaign

[nimble bridge]

IW's campaign is pretty good honestly

[fleet robin]

it's one of the best in the franchise

incredible scale and diversity in missions

[nimble bridge]

2042's campaign would be fire, Exodus is more interesting than BF3, BF4, 1 or V campaigns

[gritty hearth]

I can. The basis is so good.

[fleet robin]

tbh in terms of execution i'd say it's the best, no contest. Others might've had a better narrative but no campaign had as much effort put into it as iw

[gritty hearth]

"Is that rain...sir?"

[fleet robin]

they made the perfect game for a campaign and then decided to have no campaign

[nimble bridge]

They made flight segments exclusive to campaign right? They put a lot of effort into it

[fleet robin]

yep

loads of unique stuff

[nimble bridge]

Even when it's basic it was fun

[fleet robin]

you had side missions and bounties

super fun

and if you're a space nerd it's just the cherry on top that it all takes place on different planets

[young jetty]

DICE couldn’t even get a proper scoreboard at launch, what makes you think that they could’ve made a good campaign for 2042

[nimble bridge]

2042 was made in 18 months honestly

[gritty hearth]

Speaking of BO6, is it true that Warzone was supposed to have an Avalon map?

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, keyword was

[gritty hearth]

Dawg.

Why.

[nimble bridge]

It's most likely canned by now lol

[gritty hearth]

WHYYYYY

[nimble bridge]

They are betting everything on Verdansk

[gritty hearth]

Okay, that's a good enough excuse.

[young jetty]

More like 2 weeks 😂

[fleet robin]

isn't that just the og map

[gritty hearth]

Verdansk NEEDS to succeed.

[nimble bridge]

Yeah

Verdansk needs to fail

Just so they can cancel Warzone

[fleet robin]

funny how these big shooters always end up going back to the og content because nobody fucking cares about them anymore

[gritty hearth]

They copied Fortnite🚬

[nimble bridge]

CoD was riding on nostalgia train for last 5 years honestly

[fleet robin]

overwatch added ow1 and lootboxes, fortnite added og map, pretty sure apex did the same, i think destiny too at some point, and now warzone

[gritty hearth]

First Overwatch, now Warzone.

[young jetty]

They’re probably only betting on microtransactions 😂

[fleet robin]

cod has been riding on popularity alone for like 6 years honestly

there's no other shooter like cod, that's as popular as cod

[nimble bridge]

BF6 is riding on nostalgia train too honestly, using BF3 teaser trailer structure, using BF3 music

[fleet robin]

every last trick in the book

[inland oyster]

[young jetty]

Well I mean after 2042 they need to do heavy nostalgia riding

[nimble bridge]

Nah, think about it since MW19, entire MWII marketing campaign was ''Remember Ghost?!'', entire MWIII campaign was ''Remember good old MW2(good one) maps?!'', entire BO6 marketing campaign was ''Remember 1984 parts of BO2?!'' etc.

[nimble bridge]

They did that with 2042 too

[fleet robin]

lmao yeah fair point

mw2 was hilarious

[nimble bridge]

Look at the trailer of 2042 lol

[young jetty]

And exodus

[fleet robin]

it's like the only thing they got out of mw2 was that people liked ghost, then they made the entire game about him to the point where you become ghost team

[gritty hearth]

Releasing on the same day as the first BF3 trailer I think.

[nimble bridge]

Yeah

[gritty hearth]

Perhaps a hot take here. But I liked MW2019 and MWII.

[nimble bridge]

They should've called it ||Ghosts||

[young jetty]

They had Pac and Irish in that exodus trailer it’s so sad 😢

[inland oyster]

MW2019 was really good for me but MWII was sooooo slow…

[young jetty]

They really did us dirty with 2042

[nimble bridge]

BF has a character problem imo, I never liked any of the BF characters except Dima 🤷

[fleet robin]

the characters tend to be pretty forgettable yeah

[inland oyster]

Irish and Pac are the goats for me

[gritty hearth]

I disagree, I just wish we saw more from Los Vaqueros.

[fleet robin]

i know irish, pac, hannah, and dima, but the only thing i could tell you about any of them is that irish is afraid of heights

[nimble bridge]

I like Dima because of what he does in the story, after being betrayed by his own country he still tries to do the right thing with nukes

[inland oyster]

Sorry I thought you were talking about the PvP 😅

[nimble bridge]

I don't have much expectations for next BF campaign, if it's fun for 6 hours and explains the situation of why multiplayer factions are fighting against each other then it's going to be good in my book

[fleet robin]

just want some nice sceneries and cool scripted action

[nimble bridge]

If it has memorable dialogue, characters or set pieces then it's going to be icing on the cake

[indigo pebble]

i think somthing i aid eary got deleated some one mentioned me and i cant find it now lol al i said is looks like im not getting into playtest lol

[inland oyster]

Yeah it will add more aura to the game

[gritty hearth]

Oh I agree when it came to Multiplayer. I despise Shipment 24/7.
Sorry dude, I don't really play Multiplayer (mostly because I don't have the game, only played the free weekend), mainly Warzone because you know...it's free.

[indigo pebble]

its free but its got moe cheats then a onlyfans girls

[fleet robin]

what does that even mean

[inland oyster]

Tbh I never buy COD games, now it’s more about the Game Pass but when a new COD game is released I try it for like 1 week and I go back to Battlefield…

lol free to play or not, the cheaters will kick you from the lobbies

[young jetty]

With Vince Zampella directing the next game I think he can make some incredible well written iconic characters and a masterpiece of a story.

[gritty hearth]

My maker has been with me, for I have not encountered any cheaters just yet.

[indigo pebble]

its basicly full of cheaters is what i mean

[nimble bridge]

Motive is working on singleplayer which gives me hope

[young jetty]

What has motive worked on so far?

[nimble bridge]

Star Wars Squadrons, Battlefront, Dead Space Remake

[half halo]

Motive is also Working on a Irons Man game

[nimble bridge]

Dead Space Remake is 99% same as original game but they added a very cool hidden ending

[half halo]

So those Who think the in-person playtest is BF, I have news for you

[nimble bridge]

They also added dialogue to Isaac

[young jetty]

BF2 or BF1 or both?

[nimble bridge]

BF2

One cool aspect of Dead Space Remake's VA was Isaac's voice acting was different depending on his in-game HP. He had 3 different voices for 3 different HP levels(green/yellow/red).

[fleet robin]

ds remake was so well done

surprised at how good it looked and how much they added

[nimble bridge]

They also made menus even more diegetic, main menu to in game transition is really cool

Sadly it's been overshadowed by RE4 remake 😭

We could've gotten DS4

[inland oyster]

RE4 remake was sooooooo good 🔥

[nimble bridge]

I have my issues with it, I don't like how they made staggers random, they fixed that in mercenaries though, headshots always staggered in mercenaries

Movement was also less responsive, original had far snappier movement

[safe flume]

Anyone know when bf lab start?

[terse egret]

Apparently emails have been sent out to some people and supposedly supposed to open March 9th. What I’ve seen online so not sure how true it is

[mighty loom]

so has the invites been sent out or will it be sent through the next 2 days

[silver cedar]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qpWJ5R_hU6I&si=TD_WQzpI28JjP32F

[silver cedar]

Stop NDA

[mossy marten]

Just gonna wait for Thanos

[silver cedar]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZVCen-Hbilc&si=hSOIIQS3L9WP1KaF

[cedar flax]

MAAAAAAAAAN wheres my inviation to the labzz 😦

[silver cedar]

DICE you need to see this, for the next battlefield

[silver cedar]

Dice will wipe haft of the battlefield leakers by just snapping there fingers

[cedar flax]

idk if you do read This or not Dice or whoever From the Developers Dont mess Vehicle Physics/Mechanics up please None of bf2042 features, 100% From Battlefield 4 Physics/Mechanics And Flight/Driving Models

[wispy dagger]

V was good

[cedar flax]

battlefield 4 had the best and most balanced and well thoughout vehicle play, Vehicles were OP in the right hands not anyone

[silver cedar]

I finally hit level 100 after 200 hours

[long dock]

BF4 vehicle balance was horrendous. They were way too strong

There weren't even any proper AA guns for infantry to deal with planes and helis

[wispy dagger]

I wish they developed V more. They had such great foundation

A d day operation and a Stalingrad map would have been amazing

A map with a river through the middle with flags on ether beach so you can develop a beach head and push the other flags would be fun

[true wadi]

anyone know if they sent out the playserver test invites and if so does anyone know how to get invited i signed up 5 minutes after you were allowed to and i didnt get an invite im devestated

[mossy marten]

They said in a news post somewhere that being first in queue doesn't mean you are first into labs testing

[true wadi]

well i dont care about being first i just want an invite i took the time to try n get in and im dying on cod its brutal lol

[mossy marten]

You and a million+ other accounts..... If you get invite, you get email. If not, 🤷‍♂️

[true wadi]

hahaha nah i get it just was curious

[pallid coral]

they spent too long fixing the game and i think they probs had to rethink about future expansion which is why we only got a few

i wouldnt be surprised if a lot of future dlcs were scrapped because they weren't what the players wanted

[mortal yoke]

really hope feedback for the game sounds and the game looks good tomorrow

[vague barn]

One thing I think 2042 did right was projectile velocities. IIRC in BF4 they rarely exceeded like 500-550 m/s whereas in 2042 they're usually significantly faster and more, if you'll forgive the term, realistic.

[covert nest]

The reason why velocities were limited was purely because they wanted to desensitise ranged spraying.

[nimble bridge]

I would rather keep 2042's system and add 1 more BTK every 20-30 meters

To limit engagement distances

People will beam others from 100 meters but they would have less incentive to do when it takes 7-8 bullets to kill them instead of 4

[spice bramble]

Hobbyist, my nerd. Do you think having different projectile types for rockets is a good idea?

[vague barn]

Thanks for the information. Makes sense.

[vague barn]

Depends on how it is implemented.

But superficially, I do think it is a good idea.

[spice bramble]

Like anti infantry, heat, tandem or however they're called

Balance it out with more/less ammo

[vague barn]

Yeah. I wouldn't make it so you can carry several types of ammo at the same time (e.g. HE and HEAT), but if the option existed for having HEAT or HEAT Tandem with a difference in velocity and drop, I could see it being a pretty decent idea.

[spice bramble]

HEAT would be faster and better for light vehicles

[nimble bridge]

Plus system in RPG

[spice bramble]

HEAT Tandem for tanks

[vague barn]

However, in the interest of memeing: flechette rounds for the Carl Gustav RR.

[spice bramble]

Obviously no plus system, you select projectile in spawn screen and thats it

[vague barn]

Yeah, the plus system is something I really, really hope never, ever makes a return.

[nimble bridge]

They could make it like BFV too, Panzerfaust works well against infantry and vehicles within medium range, PIAT works even better against them in close range, Bazooka works well against vehicles in long range but deals little damage to infantry unless it's direct hit

I hope plus system returns, they just need to replace mags with something else

Mags should be fixed for weapons

No armor piercing or high power or whatever

[vague barn]

I dislike the Plus system for one major reason; it eliminates the need for preplanning your kit as you can just change it in a matter of seconds to suit practically every engagement range. That is not how it should work in my opinion. Having everyone have a weapon system that is capable at every range is not a good idea as it blurs the lines far too much between the various range brackets. There's also a bunch of smaller reasons I dislike it.

For instance, the absence of any animation for changing out attachments on the fly. You literally just have the reequip animation.

[nimble bridge]

What if they kept it limited to scopes and muzzle options? Like going from red dot to thermal or changing suppressor to muzzle break?

[pallid coral]

Being limited in your real time loadout should be a design decision now seen as a flaw. I hate the "I want everything" mentality. When you're at war and you're limited to a certain scope you just gotta adapt to it

[vague barn]

No.

[rapid fox]

It is tomorrow, March 9 is Sunday

[pallid coral]

Are all emails sent already

[nimble bridge]

I wouldn't use 90% of the stuff if there was no plus system honestly

[rapid fox]

Yep

[pallid coral]

Damn 😭

[rapid fox]

Preload apparently starts today

[pallid coral]

It just feels way too arcadey to have that in a bf game

Imagine a soldier carrying around 4 different scopes, some that have different mounts and different zeroing

[nimble bridge]

BF is arcade 🤯

[pallid coral]

Just swapping in literally half a second

[pallid coral]

Not this arcade

[nimble bridge]

You get in and get out of vehicles instantly

[pallid coral]

It still tries to simulate war even in it's simplest forms

I think plus system isn't made for battlefield

[nimble bridge]

Plus system is made for something like a BR or an extraction shooter but I'm glad it's also in the base game

I wouldn't use different scopes or muzzle options if not for it

Or even underbarrel options

Having 1 AT grenade vs 10% better accuracy, yeah I will take accuracy any time

I would've used a grip or masterkey without even touching grenade launchers

[vague barn]

And you'd have to pay the price for it. Which is kind of my point. Without the plus system you have to play to your weapon systems' strengths and adapt your use to fit the weapon configuration.

I find it exceptionally boring to be able to adapt my weapon system to any engagement on the fly. It's uninteresting and, if you'll forgive the term, braindead.

[nimble bridge]

It just allows you to change your loadout without going to respawn screen

[vague barn]

You don't have to consider and evaluate your engagements if you can just in a few seconds change your weapon to fit the engagement.

[vague barn]

I know, that's my point.

That's not a good thing in my book.

[nimble bridge]

You want gunsmithing in the game bro

[vague barn]

Being universally good is not a good thing in video games.

[nimble bridge]

Gunsmithing is copying meta setup and not thinking about it in the first place

[vague barn]

Yep, but without the ability to change it on the fly.

[vague barn]

Not really, no. If you've at all listened to me when I have brought up the topic of gunsmithing, you'd have noticed that I want it as a means of changing cosmetic components, not (necessarily) altering the weapon's performance.

[nimble bridge]

I see

Most people with gunsmithing is about changing performance though

Like stacking stability on Delta Force to make laserbeams

[vague barn]

I have never tried Delta Force so I wouldn't know.

My idea of gunsmithing is just changing out different 3D models of attachments and some of their features (e.g. reticles).

[nimble bridge]

I don't care about attachments but I want reticles too

Let us change their color and shapes

[vague barn]

Yeah.

[nimble bridge]

If only they allowed custom reticles

[vague barn]

Idk, I just like the added personalization made possible by gunsmithing as I have described it. Being able to change cosmetic components of the weapon, e.g. M4A1 > M4A1 SOPMOD Block II with either no change or minimal change to actual performance. Obviously it'd also be monetized by selling "weapon component packs" or whatever to build a weapon.

[nimble bridge]

Gunsmithing or not I still think plus system isn't bad, weapons has natural affinities in 2042 anyways, like you can use LCMG with warhawk to get no recoil but you will have lots of spread and your TTK will be slow compared to short barrel LCMG, it just makes it easier to use at longer ranges without needing to switch to PKP or Avancys

[vague barn]

I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with it.

[steel torrent]

I don't want the plus system back

[vague barn]

It kills any need to preplan and prepare a loadout.

[steel torrent]

yup

you want to keep it, leave it for Battle Royale where you collect weapons or optics

but no on multiplayer

[nimble bridge]

M5A3 has lots of spread for example, it works best in short ranges. But you can still use tac compensator instead of short barrel to have some of that range advantage instead of short barrel's fast TTK.

[steel torrent]

all this gunsmith and shit is made for players who cannot control spread

[pallid coral]

Nah you just adapt to it in the moment

Semi auto is always an option or burst

[steel torrent]

they let you minimize all weapon recoil to minimum so you are no longer carrying a gun but a "skin"

[vague barn]

That is, once again, my point. Being able to switch between a mid-range optimised and a close-range optimised configuration is not a good thing.

[steel torrent]

it boost their skin sales

[pallid coral]

There's a million things you can do to get yourself to more of an advantage and I think that's the real skill in some hard situations

[vague barn]

I'm gonna start referring to my proposed gunsmith system as the Weapon Component System instead to avoid this confusion.

[nimble bridge]

It loses out to SFAR in long range, it just tries to even the playing field without needing to switch to SFAR

[pallid coral]

Then don't fight long range

[vague barn]

I really don't care, you're still changing out to a mid/close-range optimised configuration with zero penalty.

[pallid coral]

Or get close

[nimble bridge]

That would be an option if TTK wasn't so fast

And engagement distances weren't so high

2042 is a very positional game

[vague barn]

Well, positioning should be important, you shouldn't be able stand in the open and defeat someone else in cover, all other things being equal.

[nimble bridge]

I'm not saying it shouldn't be but in BFV I never had issues with TTK or engagement distances

[covert nest]

OK all those guns were m4s.

[nimble bridge]

If someone was trying to beam me from 50 meters with a DMR I know I could use smokes to get close to them, in 2042 engagement distances are so high and TTK is so fast I fail whenever I try to smoke and get close to them

[covert nest]

In the teaser

Not gonna lie

[vague barn]

Ackshually, there was also an RPG-7 🤓

[covert nest]

If there's one gun I'd love to see it would be an ACE.

[nimble bridge]

Ackshually there was also a shotgun shown in EA investor's call 🤓

M4 model was same as the teaser model so I assume that shotty is from next BF too

[covert nest]

What shotgun

[vague barn]

Any particular flavor, or just an ACE of some form?

Sorry for the ping.

[covert nest]

I dunno. Full sized ace.

Preferably high calibre.

[nimble bridge]

https://youtu.be/Aud5bniXDOg

[covert nest]

I had to quickly skim it reckon you can give a stimpstamp?

Timestamp

LOL

[nimble bridge]

1:20

There is a shotgun that's most likely from next BF

M4 model is same as the model from the labs teaser

[vague barn]

Fair enough. I just hope we get a wide selection generally.

Way bigger selection than 2042. More akin to BF4 quantity.

[covert nest]

I'm looking forward to this one with sirlands direction not being poisoned by kurtz.

He was the one who pushed the God awful ttk update.

[vague barn]

I did a detailed analysis of the rifle in the teaser with identifying almost every component, then my laptop ran out of battery and it didn't save 🥲

[covert nest]

Fuck

[nimble bridge]

BFV TTK was fine, hopefully next game has similar TTK

I don't want to die in 1 frame

[covert nest]

The ttk variance was boring.

Even though you die quicker at a range in 2042 at least every gun feels different.

[vague barn]

Agreed, I basically arrived at the conclusion that is was a M4A1 PIP with a different front sight block though.

It has that weird MaTech rear sight which afaik was standard on the M4A1 PIP.

[covert nest]

I love my guns but on my end I just care about haha calibre

[plain bluff]

a front sight "block" only exists as a combined gas and sight block, a gas block with a picatinny rail, or a combined retro one

m4 with short handguards that have an exposed gas block without the front sight are so ugly

[covert nest]

You know. The ARM on bfh was a 50 rounder big boy. I hope we see the same soon.

[vague barn]

I love guns generally so I nerd out about very minor details.

[covert nest]

I'm more interested in the technological application

[nimble bridge]

I'm more interested in gameplay

[vague barn]

Disagree, if anything I am of the opposite opinion. That front sight is a blast from the past.

[covert nest]

That primarily goes first yeah

But the story behind it is really interesting.

It's why i love battletech.

[plain bluff]

i think we might not be talking about the same thing, given how much our tastes overlap

the old front sight gasblock combo is sexy. short handguards with just a gas block are ugly

id prefer to cover up clean gasblocks with a longer handguard

[spice bramble]

Going to a diff topic here, you guys think that recon could have a nano drone with the proper balance?

[plain bluff]

that drone shouldnt be able to spot then

[vague barn]

Fair enough, I kinda think AR platforms look sexier with the gas block poking out.

[plain bluff]

or ping a location

[spice bramble]

sure

i did say properly balanced

[covert nest]

Nano drone for what use?

[plain bluff]

other than that, you could balance it for range, flight duration, or simply make it a consumable

[covert nest]

or better yet

[spice bramble]

Normal drone but wouldnt be as loud or noticable

[plain bluff]

not a gadget you can pick back up

[covert nest]

Why not a nano suit where the suit just changes colours depending on its environment.

Not crysis levels

[vague barn]

noooooo

[plain bluff]

we'd be in a crysis

[covert nest]

YEAH NOT CRYSIS LEVELS

[vague barn]

HA

[covert nest]

I KNEW WHAT I TALKING ABOUT

I mean like how the flat colour of the uniform would change on the move but that'd probably be just needless LMAO

[spice bramble]

I still want my nano drone

could allow for sneaky flanks

saying again, if it was BALANCED

[covert nest]

I'd be up for it reducing the sound of your footsteps.

[vague barn]

I would love to see adaptive camouflage á BF4 weapon camo, but for the uniform.

[plain bluff]

that sounds like a perk choice, not a uniform choice

[covert nest]

Yeah true I'm changing the idrection cause a uniform change as cool as it would be would be bad for the tone and general be annoying to balance.

[vague barn]

Anything that keeps me undetected I am in favor of :)

Barracuda poncho, quieter footstes, shorter spotted duration, etc etc

Gimme

[spice bramble]

just hide in a bush bro

We need ghillies as an option

[vague barn]

But I can't flank while stationary :(

[spice bramble]

Ghillie + sniper glint tape would be OP

[vague barn]

Even better: Barracuda SOTACS ghillie 🙂

[nimble bridge]

I want Irish's trophy system as an engineer gadget

[vague barn]

@covert nest If I send you a picture of a SOTACS ghillie comparison, can you post it here?

[nimble bridge]

Or Blasco's jammer as a recon gadget

Or Zain's HP regen as an assault perk

[covert nest]

Sure

[vague barn]

Sent, thank you.

[covert nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347130357740474398/1347130381945798777/SAAB_Barracuda_SOTACS_3.jpg?ex=67cab46f&is=67c962ef&hm=20251c79230b307cc2f6e84a20330bf4fb5b696644da70d34709d0897a782e57&

[nimble bridge]

We don't need this 💀

[covert nest]

Immunity to thermal sights would be so funny.

[plain bluff]

10 minutes after sweating and bugging out from your location

red hot suit
cant escape thermodynamics

[vague barn]

Ngl I don't want SOTACS, but I wouldn't mind the successor as a poncho (Barracuda Soldier Systems).

[vague barn]

I really want some way of at least reducing your thermal signature.

[feral garden]

Same, at least if thermals are going to be a thing in the next game. Id love a specialization system similar to BF4, but minus the squad wipe feature. Thermal cloak could be an included perk

Has a BF game donr overheat mechanics for primary weapons already? My mind is drawing a blank

[vague barn]

I don't think a BF game has but I know MOH: Warfighter did for LMGs.

[covert nest]

Yeah bf5 with MMG's.

[feral garden]

It would be an interesting way to balance LMGs

Imagine active reloads also. I know that may be controversial, but I do think it would be a good way to widen the skill gap in a non intrusive way

[vague barn]

Could you describe to me what "active reloads" means?

[feral garden]

Have you ever played gears of war?

[vague barn]

No.

Oh wait, do you mean you have like a "window" in the reload where you can hit a key to shorten the reload time?

[feral garden]

Yeah

Like hit R to reload, and if you do a perfect active reload you reload faster.

[vague barn]

Ah okay, then I understand what you mean. I'm personally skeptical about having such a mechanic but it could be interesting to see. Question though; how would you communciate that there was a window or would it be "figure it out yourself lol"?

[feral garden]

Or just press R and it reloads in a mostly fast speed also. The active part could essentially mimic the difference in reloading ability of an inexperienced > experience soldier

[vague barn]

Fair point, can't really argue with that. The more time you have with a weapon, the more familiar you will be with the active reload window.

[feral garden]

Gears does it like this

https://youtu.be/Hqts97mYAVY?si=dx2QRWggrOye-noz

[vague barn]

Ah okay, yeah, that could be cool to see.

[feral garden]

There is a slider that moves across a bar inder your weapon, hitting the reload when it son the thing white line is a perfect reload, on the slightly more gradient-ed part is a faster than normal reload, then if you do nothing it reloads in still a mostly fast manner

This mechanic hasnt been in as many games as I thought it would be TBH

Its a legit way to increase skill with weapon use

You can also learn the reload timings of weapons, so you dont need to rely on the bar visuals. Each weapon could have different timing, so added mastery, outside of just shooting/kills

[vague barn]

Ngl the more you talk about it the more it makes sense to have it to encourage people to master a weapon.

Another follow-up question though: Empty vs. remaining ammo reloads would have different windows or?

[feral garden]

For simplicity, id say it should be the same

[vague barn]

Yeah, I figure that'd be easiest to do.

[feral garden]

Going too far into the realism part would just make it confusing/overly complicated.

I doubt anything like this will exist, but its an interesting concept haha

[vague barn]

It's a cool idea

I think The Division 2 has something similar as well.

[feral garden]

Ive not played D2 at all TBH.

Played 2k hours of D1, but never got the time to play the second game. I think it had a big issue with crashing when it release, that kinda killed off its playerbase

[vague barn]

I haven't played it in a few years but me and a few acquaintances had a lot of fun in it.

[nimble bridge]

I don't like the idea of overheating, active reloads can be cool though

MMGs were useless in V Not because they overheat but because you weren't mobile

I never had an issue with reloads in BF though, LMGs were a death sentence in BO6 because reloads would get you killed but I never had this issue in BF

They should keep segmented reloads too imo, but make it similar to V's segmented reloads rather than 2042
Difference is that tac reloads in V were still segmented but in 2042 only empty reloads are segmented, you can reload cancel but when I switch to a sidearm I don't want to switch back my main gun instantly lol

[tepid plinth]

Star Wars seems to love it though

[feral garden]

Yeah, I guess DICE have done something similar with Battlefront 1/2 with the overheating mechanics

[tepid plinth]

Even outlaws stole it

Also I can’t wait for people to flood these channels with labs news despite all the confidentiality

Like dice surely must understand their audience by now, they must be at least somewhat prepared for it to get out surely

[feral garden]

Yeah, they know it will get out. I obviously want tos ee anythign I can...but I wont be sharing anything haha

[covert nest]

If I get into the tests I'll make sure to shut the fuck up

[mild girder]

frfr

all im talking about is stuff other people have leaked and is public on the web

[tepid plinth]

Pray remind them about flight assist if they ask 🙏

[feral garden]

Leaks being on the web does not make them public info BTW. So posting them here will get you muted/messages deleted

[mild girder]

I think they already gave up with the info that the playtest is happening on friday

But expect many deleted messages on Friday when the Playtest goes live lol

[tepid plinth]

In all honesty I haven’t seen the new mods hide anything relating to it yet. However I would love nothing more than seeing multiple deleted messages in the labs chat as people inevitably break

[mild girder]

They did when the Invites were being send out, but now they just leave those

[solemn grove]

Does anyone knows how it will work on console? I mean the download, do we get sth. Like a psn Code to download a file ?

[feral garden]

No clue. they will give the info if/when you are selected

[solemn grove]

Okay so ist don't have to worry about anything? 😂

[turbid timber]

Anyone knows when the downloads will go out?

[mild girder]

you will get a code for console and download it

[mild girder]

You dont need to know that since you arent invited

[turbid timber]

🥱

in an imaginary world where i am invited

when will the codes go out?

[mild girder]

In an imaginary world, you would know that

[turbid timber]

no i wouldnt

[mild girder]

Yes you would

[turbid timber]

id know when it starts

not when i get the code

[mild girder]

sure buddy

either you cant read or you didnt get invited. simple as that

[turbid timber]

Did you get invited?

[livid trellis]

I'm sure the instructions for downloads will be sent to you. If could be possible that you are invited in different stages of the development cycle, so your invitation could come later

[turbid timber]

or maybe to play some skate 🎮

[mild girder]

No but so many people broke the NDA so there are so many infos out there

[turbid timber]

🤣

[mild girder]

even when playing skate you would know when you will get a code

you never been at a single playtest lol

[turbid timber]

oh i have

tested battlefront 2

physical

[mild girder]

In an imaginary world

[turbid timber]

🥱

@mild girder did you get in the playtest? 👀

in an imaginary world

of course

[mild girder]

Yep, you cant read. Now we know

[mossy marten]

[mild girder]

[feral garden]

Id imagine that a large percentage of those chosen wont even participate. Especially of tests only last for 1/2 hours at random times of the day (Like is the case with other EA playtests)

[solemn grove]

Thanks guys 🫶

[mild girder]

I wouldn't say large, but a fair amount. If we say they invited 2k Testers, my guess is that only 1.5k will show up because of work or some stuff

And i can also see that many will just go to the first test and then never come back since its not what they expected

So new Invites may happen the next few weeks, but we cant tell how many were invited and how many they need for their testing

[feral garden]

All in due time anyways.

[tepid plinth]

and probably like 50% will ever actually give feedback

[mild girder]

or useful feedback

"graphics look bad, pls fix"

[tepid plinth]

'plz add this one russian nightvision cause it cool'

'air strike would be neat'

[mild girder]

"Killstreaks and a nuke would be great"

[turbid timber]

i mean id rather be downloading it right now as my internet is shite

[tepid plinth]

it's interesting cause I've been leaving feedback for various steam next fest games in their respective discords and after looking at other people's posts, very few ever give an actual critique of existing systems or things to change beyond the surface level

[mild girder]

cant wait for you to be banned if they find out what ur EA Acc is lol

[turbid timber]

? I'm in my imaginary world

I never said I'm invited

[mild girder]

The last big Update that Deadlock had, i also walked around the map and looked for Spots, to leave the Skybox limit lol

[feral garden]

dude, just stop. Its annoying enough to have to deal with the other clowns here, with out those trying to skirt the rules

[turbid timber]

I'm telling you. I'm not in the playtest

[mild girder]

Thats why you were asking stuff regarding the playtest that is only important for people that are invited

[feral garden]

then stop asking about it

[mild girder]

Btw, if you are invited, you 100% will be banned since you will need to join the Closed Discord Server and they will find your Acc on here lol

[turbid timber]

Meh. I know less then you

I hope to get that email

[mild girder]

thats why you ask for when the download goes live bc ur internet is bad

[turbid timber]

& why are you leaking this stuff anyway? Closed discord server?

[turbid timber]

oh just in case i get invited

[mild girder]

Talking about the Discord Server aint a secret

was known since day one

[feral garden]

Its just a 15 year old trying to be edgy and get a reaction

[turbid timber]

So what? Does that make you eligible to share it?

[mild girder]

Typical PS User

[feral garden]

Ignore them, I did 20 mins ago

[mild girder]

I hope my Stores have stock for the 9070 XT

[turbid timber]

Is that nvidia?

[mild girder]

LOL just found a pic from a Microcenter which Stocks listed for 50 Series vs 9070s

Nvidia: 17
AMD: 610

AMD about to get some Market Share

[feral garden]

They already gain a lot of market share last quarter. I think they will be over 25% by end of year

Low/Mid tier 40 series, and all of the 50 series is just so shit.

[mild girder]

GPU Market is so good lately. AMD finally catching up, Intel doing some good Products (but shitty drivers sadly)

[feral garden]

The only thing stopping me recommending intel GPUs, is how fast they have historically abandoned GPU archs

[spice bramble]

No 9070s here yet

[mild girder]

Launch is in 2,5h btw

[nimble bridge]

They would be great, if it worked like BFV

[mild girder]

Those arent killstreaks tho

[nimble bridge]

Scorestreaks

[echo mural]

So I just read an article that there is going to be a playtest oncoming Friday for about 2 hours. PC only.

Any news here on invites or emails?

[mild girder]

not pc only

[echo mural]

Oeh.. console too 😮

[mild girder]

All articles copy the same shit that Tom Henderson posted and dont change anything

All Platforms that were listed in the FAQ are able to play

[echo mural]

Shiittt

K thanks for the info. Guess it's a waiting game now..

[thorn mica]

i dont remember that i choose platform in survey

[echo mural]

https://insider-gaming.com/battlefield-labs-playtest-this-week/

It is PC only though, I'm out.

[mild girder]

ITS NOT

JESUS

💀

[echo mural]

The article is saying it😫

[nimble bridge]

Reading comprehension BF playerbase 😛

[mild girder]

If the Article says that all people that are invited got the ability to fly, you believe that too?

[echo mural]

Yes.

Haha jk. Well this article is saying it, and the other article is saying it too (but I know it's just copy/paste)

What article do you read then?

[mild girder]

No ones, i get all my infos myself

[nimble bridge]

It's in BF Labs FAQs

[mild girder]

I knew since 2 days ago that invites were out and that the playtest is going on, on friday

[echo mural]

Did you get invited?

[mild girder]

no, i wouldnt break the nda myself bc i wanna play the game

[feral garden]

Discussing playtest info, including personal access is not allowed. How many times do people need to hear this 😄

[echo mural]

Kk

No worries, I understand. They're keeping it a big mystery for now

Let's play the waiting game

[mild girder]

(which they ruined in announcing BF Labs)

[echo mural]

A litte hype doesn't hurt

So I expect I big post on your experiences after the playtest. Check ✔️

[steel torrent]

lol

[echo mural]

I'll be waiting for that also

[steel torrent]

we'll meet again tomorrow, when everything is leaked

[mild girder]

you can wait for an official post when the game is launched lol

[feral garden]

Probably wont get any big posts for a few months

At least I dont expect any.

[echo mural]

Well, it's the internet. Probably some leaks here and there if you look hard enough

[feral garden]

Cant discuss that here tho

[echo mural]

But probably won't put in the effort. I'm hyped about a new BF but not that hyped. It's still Overwatch for now

And let's see what GTA6 does in a few months

[fleet robin]

a delay is what they'll do

[feral garden]

Most likely.

[echo mural]

I'll put money on it, it's doenst get a delay

[feral garden]

Announced a month before release, so as to mimimize stock price affect

[fleet robin]

they've delayed like every game in the last 20 years, gta 6 is 100% getting delayed

[mild girder]

but not for long if they do

[feral garden]

It will be delated til Feb/March 2026 id guess

[fleet robin]

delay to early 2026 and then battlefield gets announced for late 2025

or the other way around

[mild girder]

i doubt the next BF will release this year

[echo mural]

I don't believe it will. To much outgoing communication it's on good track to be released this fall

[feral garden]

Labs has the next BF in kinda the perfrect position tho. Even if BF is delayed to 2026, they can ramp up public availability, and still get it tested and wider audience feedback

[fleet robin]

it's not gonna release at the same time as gta, so it depends on what rockstar does

like there's zero chance they risk it

[feral garden]

Comms from who? they are literally saying nothing apart from statements to keep their stock price high

[nimble bridge]

I hope GTA6 is delayed just so EA won't have to delay BF6, I want to play it this year

[mild girder]

This is EA we are talking about that released TF2 around the same time when the next BF and COD released

wouldnt surprise me at all

[nimble bridge]

100% planned tbh

[fleet robin]

well tf2 is tf2, not battlefield

especially with how bad things are between them and the community, they just can't afford to fumble the launch

even ac shadows got delayed, most likely because there were too many big releases

[mild girder]

No not at all lol have you not notice all the drama this game has had already?

[fleet robin]

of course

[echo mural]

Mabey that's a point, but still. They have 'confirmed' it will come out this year and that it is on good track. I believe it..

[fleet robin]

delaying it to avoid the packed schedule in feb is perfectly reasonable

among all the other problems they had

[nimble bridge]

TF2 was sandwiched between BF1 and IW simply because EA wanted to buy Respawn, their prices were lowered once TF2 failed to reach expectations, ripe for a buyout... But this is just a theory... A game theory...

[fleet robin]

real

[echo mural]

Good day, gents. I'm out

[feral garden]

Rockstar have too much on the line to release a buggy game. The last thing they want is a CP 2077 situation. They will take the time to cook if they need to.

[mild girder]

Has Rockstar released a Buggy game the last few years? (The old GTA Remasters do not count since those didnt come from Rockstar directly)

[nimble bridge]

Has Rockstar released a game the last few years?

[mild girder]

GTA V Enhanced Edition

[steel torrent]

lol

next GTA V minus 1 Plus 1 un-enhanced edition

[heady thorn]

[feral garden]

https://tenor.com/view/glen-powell-cowboy-hat-twisters-glen-powell-cowboy-hat-twisters-hat-tip-gif-5118912828705353208

[heady thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/howdyfeller-howdy-feller-howdy-cowboy-clint-eastwood-howdy-clint-gif-38217194758381161

[mossy marten]

[young jetty]

They’re probably gonna delay it by a month

And personally it doesn’t matter, if the game is good and it’s extremely well polished and feels like a true battlefield experience then it’s gonna sell well, if the game is dogshit then it’s gonna be an another 2042 failure.

[nimble bridge]

I hope the next BF after this is ||2143||

[spice bramble]

Could be time to get some Cold War already, too.

[steel torrent]

not going to lie, going to the far future, with current technology would be cool

would not mind a BF 2140 something

[turbid timber]

alr exists

[nimble bridge]

Titan mode in frostbite would be fire

[tepid plinth]

a 2142 perhaps?

[feral garden]

I wonder if they will swap to a different naming convention for this "New Battlefield Franchise" approach.

[vague barn]

Battlefield: Modern Operations

[nimble bridge]

Battlefield II-I-IV-II

[feral garden]

Like Battlefield: "INSERT NAME HERE"

[mossy marten]

Battlefield

That's all

[vague barn]

Stridsfält: Manöverkrigföring

[nimble bridge]

They should stick to old naming scheme imo, I don't think ''reboot'' ideas are legit

They just connected 2042 to V

I think next BF will connect 4 to 2042

[vague barn]

Please, no.

[feral garden]

Doubt. I think they will abandon that story arch

[vague barn]

The 2042 timeline was such a hazardous waste dumpster fire that I really hope they abandon it.

[feral garden]

why would you continue the story...when the future of it is a constant reminder of a failed game the community abandoned

"Gee, I wonder what happens next" Says no one ever

👆 If they try to shoehorn the new game in between 4 and 2042

[vague barn]

I think a reboot of the series indicated by a new naming convention could be a decent idea, to create a new "universe" that the story of the next game (which I hope is grounded and good) inhabits.

[nimble bridge]

Not like story will be directly related to it but we will see lore dots imo

[feral garden]

I think they will just ignore anything related to the current games lore/characters or events. Would be for the best and give them the most freedom to cook

[nimble bridge]

Who knows

[feral garden]

Cos you know how the slightest discrepancy will be nit picked and made a massive negative.

[vague barn]

The Gods.

[nimble bridge]

But I think rumored PMC faction is going to be ||Blackburn's Arkangel||

[feral garden]

"Useless devs cant even get their own story right!!! REEEEEEE"

[vague barn]

Odin, please ask Mimir about the future of Battlefield.

[nimble bridge]

I don't think any BF fan cares about lore that much

It's cool to see references though

[feral garden]

they dont, but you know how BF "fans" get when even the slightest issue occurs

[vague barn]

If the lore is good, I would care. Up until now, I haven't.

[feral garden]

Like how up in arms everyone was when there was no VOIP...when literally noone uses it

[nimble bridge]

2142 lore is 🔥

[vague barn]

Battlefield: 1631

We going to Breitenfeld, boys.

[gentle zealot]

Hardline 2.0

[feral garden]

Make the start of the next game be Irish waking up at the end of BF4 story having had the nightmare about his future.

"Just a bad dream...Pak...where are we?"

[visual wharf]

Just "Battlefield" is the next

[nimble bridge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ls72ymqhPho

[spice bramble]

this

People get hung on the smallest things

[vague barn]

I guarantee the same thing will happen if they add Proxy chat. Everyone will either (1) disable it, or (2) not use it, or (3) use it to micspam.

[spice bramble]

Making a diamond out of a damn rock

[minor linden]

They def should revive visceral to make Hardline 2

[nimble bridge]

They should revive visceral to make dead space 4

[feral garden]

Literally noone played Hardline 1, why would they make a HL 2 haha

I liked Hardline, but it was deader than dead after 4 months. Everyone went back to BF4

[gentle zealot]

@minor linden a kind of battliefield universe where u can play every bf up to date ... hardline had such nice dlc's. Btw .

[covert nest]

At least hardline stayed alive on console for much longer.

[young jetty]

I think they’re just naming this game just battlefield, a hard reboot to the franchise like MW2019

[spice bramble]

Battlefield 0

[nimble bridge]

They should also add anime skins and SBMM

[young jetty]

Ew

[outer mantle]

Oh hell no

[heady thorn]

Yes.

[young jetty]

Let’s hope they don’t add 21 savage or snoop dogg or even Nicki Minaj

[kind dirge]

I would target the hell out of that chopper all game with AA

[heady thorn]

they would rain down anime style rockets on you and boom

[covert nest]

Oogy boogy

[young jetty]

Battlefield 1

[covert nest]

I wonder when they'll give an official date.

[heady thorn]

Once GTA 6 has an actual release date i would imagine, otherwise probably june?

[covert nest]

Oh wait sorry I meant for the pre tests for battlefield. Honestly we're not meant to even say and know when they're going live.

[young jetty]

Probably the campaign will be shown at SGF or gamescom

[kind dirge]

Much easier to just spawn camp it with the jet

[covert nest]

Some dudes gonna squeal.

[stuck dock]

Y'know, there is some beautiful poetry in that if DICE made an actual anime themed battlefield with a loose character customization, highly destructive environments while keeping all the good things about BF's gameplay, as well as add a beautiful artstyle it'd probably turn out a success.

[covert nest]

People really are full of spite for just a skin wow.

[heady thorn]

Ahh, who knows tbh

[covert nest]

As long as the direction is consistent yeah.

[young jetty]

It’s a war game what do you expect nobody wants pink anime girls sprinting down with an M4 rifle in a war torn environment

[covert nest]

For a mere sticker as ridiculous it would be, to bring spite is quite funny.

[young jetty]

[twilit coral]

[slim bay]

Is there a Labs playtest tomorrow?

Heard someone saying that.

[steel torrent]

yes

I mean, apparently

[slim bay]

Would it be available on my playtests page now if I signed up or will it be up tomorrow?

[steel torrent]

if you did not get any email from them, then no

few have been selected and sent instructions on how to access it

[slim bay]

Nothing mentioning Battlefield in my e-mail, guess it's a rip

Appreciate the response nonetheless.

[steel torrent]

welcome to the club

we will be testing the leaks

[silver cedar]

lol

Dice might be happy that the game is getting leaked

Because people will see what dice been cooking up

[steel torrent]

for their sake, it better be good

because they will be in a nightmare if something leaks and looks shit

they need to avoid this game being dead on arrival

[silver cedar]

Remember by the way the game isn’t complete so don’t judge it in till the beta

Or full release

[steel torrent]

oh no no, of course, I know

[slim bay]

Not really? They're bringing back the CTE so leaks are kind of redundant in gauging the water

It's not like they're going to change alpha or beta from community feedback based on leaks alone

[silver cedar]

The playtesters feedback

I swear guys please give fucking feedback or this hole thing is pointless

[steel torrent]

oh, I am sure people will give feedback

[wispy dagger]

some will. Most will probably just look at it like a chance to play the new battlefield

[covert nest]

The pre release could break relatively badly as any pre release would.

[slim bay]

This hurts their chance for any playtests in the future then.. Not sure if they'd care either way.

[wispy dagger]

im sure dice will still get information just from them playing

heatmaps and such for the game

stress testing

[slim bay]

Maybe it'll be a guided playtest, first do what dice wants to get feedback and then they're left to FAFO?

[covert nest]

Yeah they'll collect our data, where we run through, shoot, etc.

[slim bay]

We? You mean there's a chance..

[silver cedar]

Is it possible to do skits in battlefield like in game not real life

[half halo]

Good day Everyone!

Lessons learned for me, I won't Say anything about the playtests anymore. I got banned for it.

[silver cedar]

Really?

No way

You’re lying

[molten cloak]

Now I am scared to Tell or ask something

[silver cedar]

Is it possible to do skits in battlefield like in game not real life

I’m still wondering

Please help

[severe anvil]

if you're not part of the playtesting you can always ask questions about Battlefield Labs. Sharing things from the playtest is not allowed, as stated in the NDA that players receive when they sign-up! So, as long as you don't spoil anything you're good to go. 🙂

[silver cedar]

Thanks bro

It makes sense now

[past furnace]

I can seem to locate where to report an issue with the Labs/Playtest site? 🤔

You go to report a problem and it's just a forum of announcements.

[covert nest]

Not gonna lie though I hope false positives don't get tripped with this mod team.

[silver cedar]

Will be fine

[severe anvil]

define false positive?

[past furnace]

No sure if you have a suggestion for this? 🙏

#battlefield-labs-discussion message

[silver cedar]

A false positive is an incorrect result that indicates something is true when it is actually false. It can refer to a test result, a statistical hypothesis, or a scientific finding.

[severe anvil]

I do not, sorry. Don't work on website things.

[covert nest]

Let's just say if people were talking about a weapon that was to be added. Say the SCAR SC was gonna be added and some nutjob who wasn't in the playtests were running their mouth off.

[past furnace]

Copy that. Thanks anyways. 🙏

[covert nest]

I'm probably being hyper concious about it to be fair LOL

[silver cedar]

Trust me bro will be fine

the battlefield community got us

[tepid plinth]

that's what worries me

[severe anvil]

I don't understand how that's a false positive, that's all. If you purposefully mislead people by spreading incorrect information to get a reaction out of the server, that's not very nice and will likely come with a warning. Or is the worry that somebody else, who then just repeats the info because they don't know any better will be warned?

[silver cedar]

Good point

[severe anvil]

The bottom line is, and that might sound harsh, just don't share anything that could be part of Battlefield Labs if you want to be on the safe side. Any official communication about what we're testing and what content is in the tests is fine, you can always link to it and discuss it from there. The mods are also aware of the testing and we'll definitely make adjustments as we go forward, if needed.

[silver cedar]

Is there a way I can give feedback about the game or recommendations right now?

[covert nest]

Yeah my train of thought was probably horribly misplaced yeah. Though I wonder now if people will take the hint not to leak here

Whatever. It'll be dealt with when the time comes.

[severe anvil]

Yeah, I get that!

[severe anvil]

Feedback can always be shared, sure! 🙂

[covert nest]

I just hope people who are innocent won't get caught in the crossfire. I think people are genuinely excited to play something new.

[silver cedar]

On a official dice page or something just want to make sure my friend

[covert nest]

Just wonder when the oce tests will go live lol

[silver cedar]

I am really excited

[severe anvil]

We're pretty much on any social platform, there's also EA forums, you can pick your spot, totally up to you.

[feral garden]

Oce tests will probably happen dead last, if ever 😅

[silver cedar]

Okay

Thanks

[tepid plinth]

I’d feel bad for the pour soul who shares stuff they found from whatever site and just gets wiped off the channel without realising

[half halo]

I got banned 7 days from the channel. I appealed, but it's lessons learned for me, I won't discuss leaks, Times, playtests or whatever anymoee

[covert nest]

I remember there was this one dude who shared re release 2042 info, got banned and then said "I didn't know i didn't read the nda" as if they got given it by a friend.

[covert nest]

Jesus.

[tepid plinth]

Awesome

[half halo]

I am not part of playtesting and shared information Found on X/Twitter, YouTube comments and other social media.

[severe anvil]

Yep. #battlefield-labs-discussion message

[dusky shard]

Hello all.

[half halo]

Hello Lando

Anyway, how is Everyone doing?

[tribal seal]

is it possible to share unreleased 2042 weapons?

[half halo]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[severe anvil]

As Battlefield 2042 is already live, you can discuss things that didn't make it into the game, sure. Wouldn't be part of this discussion though. #battlefield-2042

[silver cedar]

BATTLEFIELD I have an idea for the next game, add the bfV heath system, because then more people will be medics. Next make it so vehicles take a longer time to repair it self that will make more engineers more useful. I hope you see this

[tribal seal]

and about an event that has not yet happened?

[half halo]

@severe anvil I also thanks the mod team for accepting my appeal, I appreciate it.

[silver cedar]

Heyyyy that’s nice

but do you like my idea

[severe anvil]

Future content that hasn't been announced is just speculation. You can speculate all you want, unless you signed a NDA for speculation. 😉

[gentle zealot]

😁😁

[tribal seal]

I mean what's in the game files

[silver cedar]

Black burn what happened to you
Did the f**k you rat got to you

[feral garden]

That would be a leak, and against server rules.

[severe anvil]

Still just speculation. There are a lot of things in game files that will never see the live game.

Good shout, make sure to not break any #rules

[nimble bridge]

Please don't add SBMM and don't kill your next game in 6 months 😭

[feral garden]

Or if you DO add SBMM...make it only active in a ranked mode.

[nimble bridge]

Yeah, people wants server browsers, ideally we should have server browsers + limited time modes like what 2042 currently has

[feral garden]

I think SBMM could work well in a smaller player count mode like 12v12 rush.

[nimble bridge]

I'm fine with it as long as it's exclusive to ranked and we have server browsers

Speaking of they should bring back ticket count, we could see how many tickets a server had with battlelog, but not with newer games

[feral garden]

Realistically, id prefer a visible rank system, so a player knows where they stand.

Similar to Overwatch, where you start at Bronze, then every 10-15 games you rank up/down based on performance. At all times you can see what your MMR is, and have something to work towards as a player.

[nimble bridge]

MMR should only be effected by ranked games though, that's the usual thing to do in games like CS or R6, if you play casual or unranked MMR rating doesn't change with your performance on those modes

[vague barn]

This actually seems like a pretty cool idea. Because skill level can not by any means be gauged through just the level number.

[feral garden]

the random nature of BF could make it difficult and maybe unfair for a ranking system like this tho

[plain bluff]

id keep competitive ranking out of the game. completely. in my experience it introduces a corrosive element in the form of toxicity

[raw garnet]

You're talking about a game where you shoot people bro, that's not toxic already?

[plain bluff]

inevitably all games with such a system generally go down the path of unnecessary competitiveness. bf as a whole is too casual and expansive for that. its not a controlled environment like LoL or CS

[raw garnet]

Lol

[plain bluff]

is that all you can comment

[raw garnet]

Who you talking to?

[plain bluff]

you

[raw garnet]

Why? I don't like you

[nimble bridge]

Delta Force is proof of how SBMM can ruin a game like BF

[severe anvil]

Let's not make this more than it is and move on. No need to be hostile, thanks.

[vague barn]

I'm unfamiliar (as usual) with how exactly that works (in Overwatch), but I know of a separate game from many, many years ago (APB: Reloaded) where you had "threat" levels (green, bronze, silver, gold) tied to your account which was based on performance in previous matches. The problem that I can remember with that system was that there was a lot of toxicity if you for instance didn't perform up to the expectations of more experienced players. Then again, that was a significantly less popular game than BF so, maybe not applicable here.

[fleet robin]

tf2 is one of the best shooters ever made and look at how it turned out after launching between bf and cod

just being a good game isn't enough, you need to be smart about when you release it

[nimble bridge]

To be fair TF2 had worse maps than TF1 ☝️ 🤓

[fleet robin]

tf1 had no campaign so it's automatically disqualified from my memory

[plain bluff]

with how much we've discussed SBMM to death, i think its pretty obvious how much it shouldnt be in bf

[nimble bridge]

Angel City, Relic, Nexus, Haven, Airbase, Smuggler's Cove all amazing maps

[feral garden]

Maybe instead of a PVP ranking system for gauging performance...they could have a player versus self ranking system on a class by class basis.

Like performing Recon actions (Marksman kills, spots, squad spawns on beacon, spot assists) would make your recon class rank progress (Bronze > silver > Gold > Platinum ranks). And players would need to balance out their ranks in each class via actions for those classes to maintain said rank.

AKA, go 10 games without playing recon, or performing recon action as that class would lower your personal class rank and your rating goes down one tier (Silver > Bronze).

Something like that could give players a sense of progress and ranking, without the negative effect of actually winning/losing games affecting them, or their standing versus other players.

[wispy dagger]

Do we need ranking?

[plain bluff]

terrific idea. but i dont think you should lose ranking progress if you dont play the class. you'd simply need a stat fetching system to compare it against other players

[feral garden]

If you dont lose personal performance rank...its just another dead end progression system

[plain bluff]

since its not a ranking system based on kills and deaths primarily, but rather on class purpose, i can see this being a very good soft-rank system

[feral garden]

The aim of a system like explained above, is to keep players engaged, and playing/trying to maintain their ranking, and/or progress to higher ranks.

[plain bluff]

people get better in the game over time as a baseline. thats not dead end. its constantly variable

[feral garden]

If you just make it a non linear ranking system, you get to platinum star and you are done. Once that happens, your progression system is dead

[plain bluff]

we're talking about the same thing. lets say class point barrier is 2000 points from bronze to silver if linear. after 3 months in a nonlinear approach, itd be, say 2200. in either case you want platinum

[clear hill]

i want the beta right nowww pls

[plain bluff]

so, where's the carrot? how do you get people to care about class ranks besides a shiny badge?

[feral garden]

The carrot is personal rank maintenance

[plain bluff]

without seasonal rank rewards (honestly minimal effort) id find it lame

[tough zinc]

is there any way for those who didnt get invited to be part of the developing process?

following progress and major feedbacks for example

[vague barn]

Not yet, but I expect there to be news posted in #battlefield-labs-news and general blog posts in #1335997362258186292 over time.

[severe anvil]

Correct, we'll share more info about the sessions of Labs with the wider audience. And, of course, the feedback from players will always be important, even when the game eventually goes live!

[tough zinc]

thank you

[tepid plinth]

Would you want that to influence matchmaking or just be a personal progression system?

[feral garden]

No influence on MM

Its a personal measurement stick

[spice bramble]

Those of you who played BF V and BF1, were the matches in BF V also as short as in BF1?

[tepid plinth]

Sounds like a good system to me

[vague barn]

I like that idea, just something to encourage you to keep playing and explore different classes.

I tend to set the goal for myself of trying out different weapons frequently to get the suppressor on all of them unlocked (big surprise).

[tepid plinth]

People will definitely just farm the best point methods but hey ho, such is life

Reminds me of the reputation system in Overwatch

[feral garden]

Then you could set higher thresholds for achieving new ranks on classes with more active participation. Like enginer (Repairs) or support (Revive, resupply/heal)

[mental current]

Did they already send email for tommorow ps5 playtest?

[feral garden]

Info relating to that being under NDA....no one can say

[half halo]

It's a mystery

[vague barn]

👻

[minor linden]

If it doesn’t effect matchmaking then who cares. They’d be the ones sacrificing fun in order to get a cosmetic rank easily

[plucky osprey]

I still vastly prefer the way BF4 did it. You see a Lvl 120 Colonel, they’ve played the crap out of the game. Yes it’s linear, but just because you don’t get a new number and rank for playing doesn’t mean you’ll stop. If anything, losing ranks for having to take breaks from the game often instills learned helplessness for lack of a better phrase. “I can only play for a bit of time in the week, so why bother trying to progress if I’ll lose it?”

A good progression system doesn’t punish people for not having time on their hands, but rather rewards whatever time they have devoted to it as a whole.

[half halo]

Levels == ranks

=/=

[plucky osprey]

I think it still applies somewhat

[glacial warren]

I’m gonna assume this first playtest consists of YouTubers and influencers.

[plucky osprey]

If you spend 100 hours over the course of a year playing a class, you’ll probably be at the same skill level as a person who dumped 100 hours in the course of a week.

Tweak the numbers to make more sense of course, but you get my point

I still play BF4 in little bursts now and then, but I still stomp people even if I’ve taken a few months’ break. I do just as good as I ever have, and time hasn’t dulled my skill. Should I have to look at the calendar and say “oh man if I don’t get in some matches soon people will think I’m a bad player next time I’m on”? I don’t think so. That’d just discourage me (personally) from bothering to play at all.

[versed token]

100hrs in the course of a week and stopped playing?

[plucky osprey]

Again, tweak the numbers to make more sense in your own head, it’s an example without much thought behind specifics.

The example is saying “time put in gains skill, regardless of if it’s spaced out or in a short timespan”

[versed token]

There are so many other factors at play than just time

[plucky osprey]

That’s a fair point, but I don’t think it completely negates mine either

At the bare minimum, my opinion is that time between play sessions should not penalize your ranking or any form of progression.

Now, if instead I hopped on after a year and started doing incredibly poorly yeah that makes sense. But I go months between sessions and consistently have a great KD and play objectives effectively. So, at the very least, time between sessions shouldn’t penalize players.

There could be an argument of “this guy got top rank then stopped playing” which yeah that may happen somewhat. But that’s why you have live service content. Make the person want to unlock the new things, play the new maps. Use positive reinforcement, not negative.

[long dock]

TFW not invited to the playtest 😔

[still wren]

Don't expect to be. Can't be dissapointed then.

[nimble bridge]

👆

[plucky osprey]

I was hoping since I did beta tests for BF2042 and provided a good chunk of feedback that I’d be considered a bit more, so I’m still a bit disappointed.

[raw garnet]

I'm sad you wanna come comfort me please

[white crane]

i played both the BFV alpha and 2042's 15 FPS capped broken alpha. I always filled out the surveys too I was hoping I'd get one but it supposedly is completely random

[dense creek]

Ah yes, a return to Battlefield 2142

No one will agree with me but I still think kill EXP should be removed (or HEAVILY reduced) in exchange for MASSIVE EXP gains for earning medals and ribbons

But I guess that doesn't matter much in modern BF like it did in BF2

So it'd probably be redundant

[versed token]

You do get 2k extra xp for every max ribbon in 2042

[tough zinc]

ptsd

[feral garden]

But limited ribbons unlike older games where accomplishment was not limited. I always liked seeing all the ribbons pop for in-round actions, then a big list of them at the end of a round. 😁

[versed token]

Did they even give you extra xp?

[vague barn]

DMR Ribbons my beloved.

[versed token]

I don't remember how they work in the other games

[vague barn]

I think they award some XP but I can't remember definitively.

[versed token]

Hmm seems like they gave +100 more than a regular kill

Some grant more

[vague barn]

Maybe a mixture could be interesting. You get an additional bonus for the first three and then a regular bonus for the remainder for that match.

Encourage a varied use of equipment but without completely nullifying further actions.

[young jetty]

We all have ptsd of 2042’s beta, the old DICE really destroyed battlefield

[feral garden]

200XP per ribbon. Unlimited ribbons per round.

https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Ribbons_(Battlefield_3)

[silver cedar]

I wanna have field in the the next battlefield

[small matrix]

and some battle

anyone got invited to the play test?

[twilit creek]

They are under NDA

So they would be really stupid, to tell

[wispy dagger]

Don’t bring that Reddit slop here

[small matrix]

[silver cedar]

Ok I'm gonna say this one last time
In the play test actually give feedback
Like gun play
Moment
And more
We are depending on you

[silver cedar]

NDA

[small matrix]

dice pls

[silver cedar]

Maybe next time

[small matrix]

ye

[silver cedar]

Just be quite about it please

[small matrix]

gonna be a massive play test
expecting some leaks

[dusky mountain]

I hope I am gonna get an invite to test the game...

[silver cedar]

Because if you say that and dice sees it you'll never get in because they won't trust you

[small matrix]

i got a notification thx for applying keep n eye on the mail
but nothing yet

[dusky mountain]

same

[small matrix]

kekwait

[silver cedar]

If you do give feedback or this game will flop

[twilit creek]

this, is also nda

[small matrix]

we cooked

[silver cedar]

Delete that shit

[twilit creek]

you*

[dusky mountain]

Definitely. I've been playing since vietnam and Bf2... I know what battlefield game should be and what not.

[mint torrent]

Playtest was interesting. There were guns and soldiers in it. Big explosions and loud noises. Looking good so far.

[small matrix]

by a bf2042 enjoyer :/

[small matrix]

[silver cedar]

Okay damn with you giving feedback will be good
Let's hope you get in

[dusky mountain]

Thanks

[silver cedar]

Should I play bfV or bf2

Or bf1

[small matrix]

1 and u won't regret it

[dusky mountain]

hahaha... I loved BF2, enjoyed BF5 untill cheaters ruined it.

[silver cedar]

But I missed bf2

And bf1 is fantastic

[dusky mountain]

Oh... Had A LOT of fun in BF2

[small matrix]

not anymore?
EAAC seems to be working great in bf1 playing it and haven't seen one since a long time

idk about redeploy cheat in there💀

[silver cedar]

EA added the new anti-cheat so you'll be good

[small matrix]

there's an update every few days for it too

[silver cedar]

Faster than Activision could do with bo3

[dusky mountain]

On BF5? hmmm... Maybe time to download it again.