Forza Horizon 6

[spark meteor]

but i dislike the noise on medium

so high it is for me

so i have to turn down other settings a bit

[slim schooner]

Thanks!

[spark meteor]

But i wouldn't consider them "must have" in general. MY personal choice so to speak.

[slim schooner]

Yeah I just checked all mods and there doesnt seem to be anything must have for now

[spark meteor]

or try that mod here ? https://www.nexusmods.com/forzahorizon6/mods/77

[fallow swallow]

those day screenshots

[visual nova]

really wish they just kept the motorspart art style

[spark meteor]

is that you grandma ? i love your videos ^^

[spark meteor]

that guy was not convinced that headlights would blind you at day xD

with this mod he can experience it

[fallow swallow]

yea lmao

plus those high beam taillights

[grizzled helm]

lmao is this like a joke or serious mod

[spark meteor]

meme mod

[visual nova]

https://www.nexusmods.com/forzahorizon6/mods/79

[slim schooner]

Running 66fps with al maxed out DLSS performance at 4K with a 4080. Not bad at all

I expected it to be much heavier based on what y’all were saying

Hitting 120fps easy with FG too

[chrome fiber]

Reno OFF/ON

[slim schooner]

Reno mod is subtle but seems good btw. Great work as always Jon

[pulsar peak]

Ohhhhh haven’t seen this one yet. Gonna try it

[pulsar peak]

OH LETS GO wireless tho?

Now that the game is out fully even more modders at work

Crimson desert mod goodness and now Forza horizon 6 too. We eating good

Batman tomorrow!

Wonder if they’ll do a specific Reno for it or just unreal engine 5. I hope they do custom given the art style and colours. But does it even have hdr?

It doesn’t even have ps5 pro support lol

And the of system requirements look so awful lol

Unreal engine 5 open world oh boy

[grizzled helm]

according to the steam page, there is HDR support for steam OS, so i assume for windows as well

[olive junco]

what in the nightrider headlights are these lmao

[grizzled helm]

love that hdr impact

[digital sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/millie-bobby-brown-wallace-and-gromit-unilad-the-dirtier-the-better-carrot-gif-7691379041227792059

[restive violet]

When I install reshade + addon and the latest renodx, the game would jus tcrash after the logo intro. Anyone else have this problem ?

[south grotto]

[frozen edge]

is there a renodx for fh6?

checkend pinned but nothing

[south grotto]

do mods on fh6 prevent you from playing online?

[digital sentinel]

Think the absolute latest one is in here, just search for FH6
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods

[dawn latch]

Anyone got fix or problem with degrading performance overtime? 5800x3d, 4070

[pulsar peak]

oh I am not getting those jesus fucking christ what the fuck lol

[pulsar peak]

someone use this for a reno off/on compariosn to troll people LOL

[steady crypt]

ooo this mod I am definitely interested in when I play the game later tonight

works well?

[digital sentinel]

I use this, works like a charm
https://github.com/HamzaYslmn/Forza-Horizon-DualSense-Python

[steady crypt]

thanks! Will check it out for sure tonight

[frozen edge]

Hmm something is making my game crash at launch

Display commander it seems

No hdr display detected?

[bronze cosmos]

why tho?

RT reflections hardly costs anything

compared to SSR

[sour scaffold]

does renodx fix the discrepancy of peak/paper white in regards that if you set paper white 200 and peak 2000 you won't get peak 2000?

[low wren]

ReLimiter works 😄

[slim schooner]

Didn’t capture fps for me

Just showed 0

[pulsar peak]

I was until I saw its an entire app bleh

[slim schooner]

You’re using it on steam right? I tried getting the dualsense to work on gamepass but it’s a nightmare

[low wren]

you need to set an fps target and not leave uncapped

[coral marsh]

man thats so much work. it has no haptic feedback either just triggers right?

[frozen edge]

or opti

[digital sentinel]

idk what qualifies as haptic feedback but triggers work

[digital sentinel]

steam yes, I think I saw somewhere some other, similar project that works with gamepass version with a workaround but I could be wrong

[tiny shore]

This looks incredible, nice work.

https://klipy.com/gifs/cinema-289--k01KS0BXN3KRFY4P31DRKS93G3D

[slim schooner]

Oh so if I keep the limiter off I can’t use the fps tracking in the OSD?

[digital sentinel]

my little shitbox

[woeful bay]

Guys, what’s the difference between these latest RenoDX releases and the older ones?

[pulsar peak]

I’m excited to try the dual sense haptics with that app

[woeful bay]

I followed the tutorial for the Game Pass version, but inside the game the triggers didn’t change at all

[digital sentinel]

[winged garnet]

Does anyone find this game kinda dim?

[wet dragon]

either reshade or reno were causing crashes for me, I had 3 before I got rid of both and haven't crashed since.

[coral marsh]

does the game have memory leak? it gets very slow after some time

[slim schooner]

Don’t think it has haptics. Just triggers

[pulsar peak]

Yeah my bad the adaptive triggers. Haptic seem to work nicely already

[calm holly]

citrix

[wet dragon]

I don't know what that is?

[woeful bay]

Apparently I’m the only one whose DualSense triggers didn’t work. The program even makes the trigger sound, but inside the game nothing changes

[wet dragon]

I gave up and used an xbox controller, but I'm on gamepass.

[woeful bay]

I’m on the Game Pass version using DS4Windows.

[wet dragon]

I was doing that but having a weird issue with the perspective button triggering it self so it was switching perspectives at random.

[native yacht]

The smoke in the night races has been pixelated garbage since the Horizon 4 and it's still the same in this one... I don't understand where the next-gen features are in this game.

[fringe mesa]

new patch

[slim schooner]

It has haptics?

[opaque elm]

yo does mei have down syndrome

[hardy canopy]

im using dsx a steam alternative to Ds4windows and I got it to work perfectly. it was working partailly but I had to just erase everything on dsx. im on gamepass

[spark meteor]

judging at how many of the npc's are disabled and have some sort of aid i would guess she has

[dapper rapids]

Anyone noticing memory/ vram leaks after playing for a couple of hours?

[spark meteor]

yes, known issue. i restart game after 2-3 hours on average

[spark meteor]

game patch ?

[fringe mesa]

ya

[dapper rapids]

Quick question regarding HDR, should I use Windows HDR calibration in order to create a peak brightness HDR preset, or is it not needed when using Reno? Using Asus PG32UCDP

[spark meteor]

i see it now. 6,9gb on gamepass version

[fringe mesa]

it'll make it so that the reset button next to peak brightness in other reno mods sets it to your peak but otherwise not necessary

[dapper rapids]

Finally, just to confirm, whenever I have my second monitor on and checking HDR brightness calibration in-game, it usually peaks at around 450 nits. Should I ignore that value and set it to my known peak of 1300 nits?

[fringe mesa]

probably reading the calibration from that or something

ultimately all it does is give us a default value that can be overriden by moving the slider anyway

[pulsar peak]

I get haptics when braking, hit bummps etc sometimes the game doeswnt do it and then works ona restart

[dapper rapids]

So, the monitor should correctly display 1300 nit at peak when overriding the calibration value. Is that correct?

[slim schooner]

That´s just normal vibration

[pulsar peak]

still feels good on the dual sense

[fringe mesa]

TEST BUILD
added some fixes for UI/videos being deep fried in HDR, only issue is that it makes the peak brightness test image in the calibration menu slightly off. You can see the test image doesn't go to 10k.
photo mode doesn't work in this

[modest lance]

not seeing the new patch on steam is it just xbox app version

[solar shard]

whoops didn't mean to pin, meant to copy link

[grizzled helm]

To what point is the icon reliable though? On a 1000 nit screen the logo only disappeared at around 1400 with HGIG

or is it just that above 5000 nits it doesn't show

[fringe mesa]

well if you set it to off the icon should be reliable

anyway the slider value is accurate

[grizzled helm]

good to know, will set it according to that then

[solar shard]

@fringe mesa think it would be safe if we overrode the peak brightness option with windows calibration specifically if the slider is set higher than display peak? That way someone could still tune it down if they wanted to, and afaik most of the time edid is wrong by being too large anyway so I don't think it would negatively impact anybody but would make it easy to get the "correct" value by just cranking peak.

the 100 nit increments are annoying to me....

don't really care on my tv cause 900 vs the 920 I get is whatever, it's already plenty bright for good range, but on my monitor it feels bad to have to go to 400 instead of 465 or w/e

[fringe mesa]

no cbuffer

well maybe injecting into one shader won't break idk

[solar shard]

it wouldn't need a cbuffer would it? Oh I guess it pulls the info at runtime nvm

damn

[fringe mesa]

also might be worth trying to do the ue thing where you look for whichever root signature causes issues and skip that

[fringe mesa]

anyway someone test if this version fixes that overly bright ui element during races

[abstract verge]

UI looks weird now that I have seen deep fried one for days. Gotta adjust my eyes back kekw~1

[fringe mesa]

I felt like something was off with the videos when I first saw them

[pulsar peak]

I love deep friend tho

deep fry me

[solar shard]

it does not

[abstract verge]

Photomode shows pureblack with reno on latest version

Goes away when I turn it off

[pulsar peak]

oh god please fix lol

does someone have the old reno

[solar shard]

grab from my snapshots

[pulsar peak]

yes....im sorry I dont know

its fine I can wait for a fix sorry

[solar shard]

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/mods

[pulsar peak]

ohhh yes yes it just wasnt upated there yet

ok gonna test

[obsidian panther]

does this renodx have a menu?

[solar shard]

no

[obsidian panther]

ic thx

[solar shard]

well, a simple one, we're just currently limited in what we can do since we can't inject cbuffers. Has an on/off toggle and that's it

everything else is controlled in game

[pulsar peak]

Ok we good on photo mode with snapshot

Did we finally decide what DLSS preset to use? lol

Someone was saying J since it’s fast moving?

[solar shard]

I find that the on/off toggle is unstable when I have hdr analysis up specifically

[abstract verge]

I use M but I dont use RTGI so I dont get the downside of noisy GI

[solar shard]

maybe it's a "when reshade shaders are running" kind of thing

[sturdy niche]

which dlss preset do u guys use with extreme+rt settings

[coral marsh]

I use M

no wait I just remembred I saw that K is way better, I forgot to switch

[sturdy niche]

ive been on M its been okay

im gonna try K now

[coral marsh]

nvm Im on K. there was a video from S2bench which showed K is way better in this game

here it is https://youtu.be/ZISkwGdCXx8?t=124

[sturdy niche]

i noticed camera mode is fully black when reno is on

not sure if this is a known issue or not, just saying

[modest lance]

omg i was losing my mind i thought the game bricked or something

[pulsar peak]

yes its an issue I just reverted

they are aware

[modest lance]

how is K better than L/M when its previous gen (im not familiar)

[coral marsh]

does anyone here play on wheel? I tried a short time and it was terrible but maybe my settings where just bad idk

[wet dragon]

K wasn't good for me personally, I stuck with M.

[idle vessel]

DLSS 4.5 has well documented issues with RT noise

[abstract verge]

It depends on game/content

[modest lance]

i do notice this especially at night

[coral marsh]

watch the video I posted, normally I would pick 4.5 but in this case not

[modest lance]

or like bridges underside

[idle vessel]

nvidia forgot to include game denoisers in their training data for it (speculation)

[jaunty star]

That python script to get the dualsense adaptive triggers working with the game is amazing

[modest lance]

hmm idk extreme+rt with K leaves more ghosting for me than M

[random furnace]

here
#1504717987876180119 message
and here
#1504717987876180119 message

[pulsar peak]

I’ll text J today

[brazen gorge]

I haven’t played myself, but my friends who do play with wheels say the Horizon games are just better for controller

[spark meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/vibe-coding-vibes-coding-ai-coding-vibe-coding-meme-gif-4697795754689028301

[spark meteor]

i am on J

[sour tapir]

Haven't tried the renodx mod yet, does it fix the raised blacks in HDR?

[random furnace]

one would hope so, just try it, it's quite quick to install

[modest lance]

lol RT noise always wilding when going under bridges

[spark meteor]

or in tunnels

[fallen jolt]

yes

[pulsar peak]

Looks good?

[frozen edge]

Optiscaler kinda broken

The framegen

[spark meteor]

K is better imo

[fringe mesa]

ok so black screen here was just some debug code I forgot to delete

[coral marsh]

my game after a while goes down to like 30 fps. I need to restart it to fix, anyone get that problem?

[south grotto]

im still so torn on if i should get this game

i regreted fh5 quite a bit

[spark meteor]

known vram leak issue, yes

[south grotto]

only played like 25h or so and preordered the 110€ edition or whatever

[coral marsh]

man thats ass

[olive junco]

this game really needs to just be Nvidiamaxxed: run 3x fg with DLAA Preset L

minimal noise from RT with good image quality

and use long motion blur to hide FG artifacting

[spark meteor]

try prest K , way better

[coral marsh]

so nothing we can do about that? I have 16gb vram play 4k balanced everything extreme rt high

[olive junco]

[grizzled helm]

apparently this game relies on a lot of driver trickery to display properly. detailed here: https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/pull/3033

probably related i guess

[olive junco]

too much fine detail smearing in movement sadly

[south grotto]

guess im rip on 4090

[spark meteor]

we can't have both, i know

[olive junco]

am doing this on 5080

[south grotto]

yeah but i dont have mfg

[olive junco]

2x is probably fine too

[spark meteor]

i also use only 2x on 5070ti

[south grotto]

what res you doing that on

[olive junco]

it's a game in a lot of motion, the noise at DLAA is bearable and only shows up in very specific scenes

while preset K constantly smears while racing

[olive junco]

1440p

[spark meteor]

personal preferenc ei guess, i prefer k with a bit more ghosting

3440x1440 here

[olive junco]

it's not my preferred way of playing but I guess this works since input lag isn't really a concern anyway

[south grotto]

yeah im quite a bit higher res so prolly no dlaa

3840x1600 UW

[spark meteor]

you can run that res with preset K and dlaa

[south grotto]

at what frames

[spark meteor]

45-60 base fps

[south grotto]

[spark meteor]

slap 2x fg on top, you're good

[smoky cloak]

I'm using preset K, DLAA, FGx2, locked to 120fps

I might try M/L after what Shrubby says

[south grotto]

FG 120 locked would be nice

is the motion blur good

or ass cheeks

[smoky cloak]

I've turned it off ..

I always do, gives me a headache

[south grotto]

good motion blur is

[smoky cloak]

Looks slightly smeared in motion anyway. Maybe L stops that

[south grotto]

most games dont have good motion blur thats why im asking

[grizzled helm]

this one has good motion blur I feel, and necessary too

[smoky cloak]

Generally with those settings I find this visually stunning in many scenes

[smoky cloak]

Why necessary? I never understand that. What FPS?

[grizzled helm]

90 for me. just the way our eyes work. same with film grain, chromatic aberration etc

stuff looks fake if its as clean as an operating table

[smoky cloak]

You see chromatic abberation as necessary?

[grizzled helm]

matter of preference of course

I wouldn't call it necessary but for me it helps with the realism

[abstract verge]

I turn mb on because it helps with sense of speed

[smoky cloak]

I'll try the mb again

Game feels fast AF for me anyway!

[spark meteor]

#1504717987876180119 message

[smoky cloak]

RTGI completely fails as a solution in tunnels

[grizzled helm]

never seen a game do tunnels well. they look like absolute ass in tokio extreme racer too

something about the transition between open and closed spaces

[spark meteor]

absolutely, it is broken

[grizzled helm]

its like they turn on the lights in the tunnels once you enter it and it takes half a second to propagate

[smoky cloak]

Takes too long to "switch on", then the light bounce on the top of the car looks weird. Plus the noise

[spark meteor]

artistic intent ^^

[smoky cloak]

I mean, I'm keeping it on because I sold my kidney for a 5090

But it's shite

[spark meteor]

you got ripped off , kidneys are more worth

[smoky cloak]

I'm a heavy drinker

[valid folio]

61FPS M DLAA at 3440x1440, 85FPS at Quality preset, 275FPS with Quality and 4x FG (5080 with some OC)

[fringe mesa]

added some fixes for UI/videos being deep fried in HDR, only issue is that it makes the peak brightness test image in the calibration menu slightly off. You can see the test image doesn't go to 10k.

fixed the photo mode issue from the build I uploaded earlier

[placid wind]

After a bunch of tinkering I was happy with 4K DLSS quality, preset L, high RT. Best balance of shimmering vs perf vs RT noise

But there’s an argument to be made for disabling RT, if I was on anything 70 series that’s probably what I’d do…

Im not sure it’s worth the massive perf hit AND the instability at anything less than high

(Even on high in tunnels..)

[spark meteor]

try preset k and dlaa, way less noise in rt

but a bit of ghosting

[placid wind]

Too low perf for me

I want 90+ no FG

[spark meteor]

K is easier on performance

[placid wind]

DLAA And high rt is still too low with K

[spark meteor]

bummer

[placid wind]

(For me)

The beauty of options, everyone can choose!

[tiny shore]

good even with FG

DLAA Preset M bangs\

[modern heart]

im getting cooked with 16gb ram lmaaaooo, high rt at 4k is the most i can do with 5070ti

it gives me the warning that im hitting 17 or 18gb, will my ram explode?

[tiny shore]

Yup. One by one each die will blow up

[modern heart]

u serious?

what would be a safe limit?

[slim token]

preset M is the best for DLAA 4K ?

[tiny shore]

no

[tiny shore]

Yeah

One of the best looking environments I have seen in a game

I am seeing casual 21GB lol

wtf

[sturdy niche]

damn im using only 13-15GB at maxed out settings 3440x1440

how tf u reach 22gb almost

[south grotto]

[steady crypt]

Yeah the adaptive triggers mod is pretty sweet with the dualsense

Finally got on the game and set it up

[pulsar peak]

im excited to try

distracted with lego batman atm and setting up reno for it now

[steady crypt]

God i can't stand the story in these games

They could just remove them and I doubt many would care

[frozen edge]

anyone try other kinds of mods?

Only have skip intro

[marble quiver]

addon is not loading in gamepass ver

I installed the non addon reshade, fck me

[frigid monolith]

I notice highlights get dimmer in HDR if u lower paper white, does renodx help with that?

[stoic phoenix]

10k nits stars after race

[twilit lily]

Golly

[grizzled helm]

it's time to get an X11L clearly

[stoic phoenix]

score pop-ups are too 10k nits

[woeful bay]

I’ll test it, thanks.

[visual cloak]

Is the current native HDR in this Game considered good?

[placid wind]

I’d classify it as “artistic intent” / 10

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

[solar shard]

Should have an update out tonight. Musa and I reworked some stuff.

[brisk valve]

have you tested this yourself?

[visual cloak]

Lmaoo

[cold trout]

how are we feeling about the game

is it a good relaxing game to just buy and play at night

[wet locust]

[misty epoch]

Yeah I played till 2am lastnight just hooning around doing the Freeroam stuff. I love that you can do stuff like drag racing in Freeroam by just parking at the start line and hit the ready up button

I would love proper ingame text chat and proximity voice. I know it would get spammed a bit but with a simple mute that would be solved.

[pale palm]

is it safe to use this online?

[limber fiber]

y

[wet locust]

Yh. Playing pirated version online on my main account with optiscaler and reshade no issue.

[tiny shore]

It already looks great, so damn. Just bug fixes or some tonemapping changes too?

[solar shard]

more or less rewrote tone mapping

[sturdy torrent]

current build looks flawless

[marble quiver]

Is there a config file where we can edit the hdr slider values? My peak brightness is 465 nits but the in-game slider can only be done by 100. So i am stuck with 400/500 only

[wispy eagle]

is this ok for online use?

[smoky cloak]

No. Whenever that happens I just set to the lower one. But in your case I'd probably go 500. It will be fine

[marble quiver]

Cheers

[leaden tendon]

What's the best DLSS model to use for this game>

[fierce ice]

If not using RT M/L

If using RT F

Maybe K if you can handle the ghosting/noise

[digital sentinel]

https://youtu.be/Ixiey4F61N4?si=KFt1lXdFzOdrJ6J5

finally, the king returns

[leaden tendon]

Forza is fine with the ReShade Online full addon support?

[low wren]

yeah seems so
had no issues so far

[solar shard]

• rewrite tone mapping/grading and retune it
• implemented LUT scaling

needs more testing, I may tune the look a little bit more, but I'm tired

[digital sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-work-gif-18382095

[low wren]

8 hour power nap

[somber ridge]

Don't do it. It's still the same old. The open world is the only thing that has gotten better. I'm regretting paying those 120€

[fallow swallow]

UI motion blur seems to break things when on in this build? turns transparent/dim when scrolling and in wheelspins when its on, fixed when its off

dirt roads on minimap also broken rn, on vs off

switched on and off too fast lmao, nice typo game

[sturdy torrent]

Yeah I installed the previous version

[fallen jolt]

Why did you pay 120€? The usual keyseller all had it for like 70-80€

[chrome fiber]

Reno OFF/ON

[somber ridge]

I really enjoyed 5 so I bought the premium edition

[chrome fiber]

Off/On

[digital sentinel]

I've only played FH1, 3 and 4 (have not fully completed either of them) and this newest one is easily the best one

[copper maple]

Take a break, not every hype game needs Reno mods, it can wait a couple months until the game is ready with all initial updates

[misty epoch]

Not sure if its related but just had my first crash after downloading the latest version of this mod. After about 20mins of gameplay. Played 5 hours lastnight with another version with zero crashes.

No other mods installed.

[pulsar peak]

didnt the game get a massive patch less than 12 hours ago?

could be the update

ueah tuesday in the afternoon it got an update

[fringe mesa]

• build without the broken ui stuff
• not the same tonemapping as the build jon just posted

[marble geyser]

old tonemapping then ig?

previous*

[fringe mesa]

something I wrote

[red lagoon]

Idk if you found a fix... Do you by any chance have amd? I've heard using taa reduces it. Worked kinda for me.

[wet locust]

yh im on amd, cant deal with TAA tho, im using fsr4 from optiscaler

[smoky cloak]

Awesome, how would you compare it in layman's terms?

[misty epoch]

Did not know there was one out. But maybe. I have cashed twice now in the last hour.

[twilit lily]

Tonemapping battles in here

[sturdy niche]

game looks great

[wet dragon]

reshade or reno were causing me crashes so I had to get rid of em, none since. Lots of stutter though.

[sturdy niche]

ive had stutters when i downloaded the game yesterday, for like the first 15 minutes, since then 0 stutters

i was on an old nvidia driver, not sure if it helped but i updated afterwards

[south grotto]

[red lagoon]

The taa implementation is really good. One of the best implications of taa....

On another note, is fsr4 working now? I remember the menu not showing up.

[misty epoch]

if you regretted FH5, you will regret this one too, its more of the same, on a slightly different map. I still enjoy it, but only enough to rent it for a month through Gamepass. If it ever went dirt cheap I would buy it. Its $120.00 in NZ, I would happily pay $50 on deep sale.

[wet locust]

Work on every game with my 6800xt

Till the game got a upscaler to hook like dlss, fsr or xess

Xefg framegen work as well and its so much better than fsr fg

[coral marsh]

did anyone get banned for using reshade or is it fine_

[wet dragon]

I even did a clean install, but that didn't help

[wispy eagle]

you guys know how to install reshade on the game xbox version.

[copper locust]

select the gamelaunchhelper.exe file instead

[wispy eagle]

thanks. i'll try

[south grotto]

well FH5 i really disliked the map after a bit

but the second biggest complaint i have is the tuning and customization of cars which they barely touched from what ive seen so yeah.. iunno

[red lagoon]

Same but apparently this game had and the optiscaler menu wasn't opening

[gleaming tulip]

you can usehttps://github.com/RankFTW/RHI/releases/tag/RHI-1.9.6

[visual nova]

use ds4windows, toggle hide ps4 in the setting when you're in game

[wet locust]

Its right opening here

[wet locust]

Shouldnt the last one be the one posted in this chat ?

[digital sentinel]

No idea they've been tinkering with stuff for the past few days

[worthy thorn]

anyone done the oka cross country circuit because that race is infuriating and also dont think those colors are quite right

[south grotto]

looks amazing

[sturdy niche]

i think ive done this one and havent had that xd

[south grotto]

blud driving on psychedelics

[worthy thorn]

its only this race that it happens

plus this race is so hard im going insane

[south grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/elmom-puppet-blue-wow-color-gif-10547985017091929812

[grizzled helm]

something is up with the difficulty scaling in this game. and its not my skill issue

street races are really stupidly difficult, all of them

while the single lap ones are typically so much easier

[sturdy niche]

yea i sometimes get ultra destroyed and sometimes im way ahead

[worthy thorn]

ive found the cross country to be borderline impossible unless you lower the difficulty and ive seen people say the mountain street races are very difficult

1st place is always just so far ahead and just doesnt lose traction at all

[sturdy niche]

what difficulty do you play on? i think i ended that one on 2nd place and just moved on, gonna try it later

i play on like the 3rd or 4th hardest for now, no assists except launch contol

[sturdy niche]

yeah well i noticed the opponents in front of me always rubberband away like crazy, and as soon as i overtake them, they are way slower falling behind

[worthy thorn]

im playing on expert with the same assists as you

but even if i go to like above average some CC races still feel like the gap between 1st and 2nd is huge

my friend is on a snow race and he said the AI literally doesnt have any issues with traction on it

[sturdy niche]

my friend was saying the same on snow races

[worthy thorn]

ive probably won like 3 CC races first try

those rice fields man

[sturdy niche]

ive actually had more fun racing CC and dirt races, especially the rally ones more than road

[smoky cloak]

Is it worth learning manual?

[worthy thorn]

i like the CC races tracks

[smoky cloak]

I've already turned off traction

[worthy thorn]

just the AI fucks with it

[sturdy niche]

yea i find manual to be way better

ive always played FH games on manual

[smoky cloak]

I'll take the plunge

[worthy thorn]

yea manual you go way faster and it doesnt take long to learn

[sturdy niche]

sometimes with clutch too but usually i do without clutch cuz im just playing for fun, i got clutch irl lol

[worthy thorn]

i do wish there was more road/street races in the progression tho

since we are in tokyo

[south grotto]

AI has been fucked in Forza for years

Crazy that they still didn’t fix it

[coral marsh]

I just tried with wheel and gotta say its way more fun but more difficult too

[obsidian panther]

My first forza game, playing average difficulty, I legit tried an hour on cross country race and only could get 5th

[fierce rover]

a good tune really makes a big difference

[wispy eagle]

do not use simulation damage. the ai cars don't get damaged so cant win against them in unbeatable cross country

btw is it normal that the highlights rarely reach the peak brightness that i set in game? i set 1000 peak but the sun is only at about 500

[worthy thorn]

1000 peak is pretty bad for forza imo because of how bright the game is the ABL is strong

[worthy thorn]

yea tuning does help but some of the races first is so far ahead its kinda wild

[sand glade]

Is this game out of beta yet

[topaz ferry]

never was

[spark meteor]

#1504717987876180119 message 😉

[half hemlock]

also worth mentioning that the ai difficulty is severly more of a pain than the previous titles

feels like expert is the new unbeatable

[modest lance]

sometimes in menus it freezes for a couple secs, and i also just had a moment while driving game is completely frozen, any knowers

[full aurora]

The AI in this game has no concept of racecraft.

It will dive on you on the inside, compromising both you and it's exit out of the corner, killing all momentum for basically everybody behind the pack and causing the rest of the people ahead to get away.

And for some reason their cars weigh like 20,000lbs compared to you.

[worthy thorn]

the amount of times ive attempted to dive for an overtake and the car behind me just drives straight into the side of me

they will also just push you off the road to follow the racing line

[sturdy niche]

does anybody else also get crashes when FG is on? I can only use 2x since im on a 4090, could it be cuz i forced preset B and its causing the crashes or am i just unlucky?

[worthy thorn]

i also have a 4090 and frame gen works fine for me

[sturdy niche]

could it be the preset im forcing or? i dont even know what preset B does, i just saw someone recommend it xd

[abstract verge]

I had more crashes since day 1 patch
I had less in early access for premium

I was playing with Preset B all the time

Idk if the causes are from fg tho

[sturdy niche]

preset B isnt meant for like MFG only or

[worthy thorn]

im using preset b and its fine

[abstract verge]

Its for normal fg too

[topaz ferry]

preset B is fine for me

[abstract verge]

It helps with UI ghosting

[worthy thorn]

^

[sturdy niche]

i had 1 crash when i played yesterday, i was on DLSS Quality and no FG, since then 0 crashes, today i changed to DLAA+2x FG and i had atleast 4 crashes today

[worthy thorn]

im playing dlaa with frame gen on preset b and max settings and i havent had a crash

[sturdy niche]

but the 1 crash i had yesterday, i got a crash error message from forza, but the crashes today the game jsut froze, sound kept playing normally and i had to force end task

[worthy thorn]

i think you might be unlucky

[sturdy niche]

yea might have to stick to Quality instead

only downside is the pixelated smokes

[worthy thorn]

the only issue i have is that it says my vram is using more than i have

but its not the game just lies sometimes

[sturdy niche]

ReLimiter reports like 14-15GB for me

which is fine for me

[worthy thorn]

yea i get a pop up for every GB that it goes over 24

but when i check its using like 14

[sour scaffold]

might be off topic but does lego batman has a channel for hdr? i can't find any 🙁

[abstract verge]

Its in unreal engine generic

[sour scaffold]

figured! hdr is not that bad to go with a generic reno

[sturdy niche]

weird, i havent seen my game report anything vram related

[sour scaffold]

i just wanted to unlock peak brightness seems max at 2000

[random furnace]

use UE Extended, Lazorr is working on it on that branch #1411800884303626311 message

[sour scaffold]

oh really!!

i'll try it! thanx guys

sorry the off topic!

[worthy thorn]

ive seen people say it has a vram leak but ive not had actual issues with that

ive also come to the conclusion that im just ass at rally racing

[random furnace]

some "leaks" are not infinite and can be cushioned by high V/RAM hardware

[worthy thorn]

yea i just dont know why the game thinks its using more vram than i have

[random furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/right-question-question-i-robot-irobot-good-question-gif-8521678417083678954

[boreal garden]

So I just installed the addon for this game through RHI and I'm seeing some jumps up to 5500 nits. Should I keep using the addon installed from RHI or grabbed the one Musa just dropped in here from this morning?

[random furnace]

fixed a small bug compared to Jon's version (which is the one the Wiki), so you can try if it fixes it

[boreal garden]

good to go now thanks

[misty epoch]

I'm getting that exact same crash. DLSS Quality, FGx2 Extreme+RT

I started getting it after the update to the game and after yesterday's HDR mod update.

[sturdy niche]

i have a suspicion that its FG doing it to me, cuz it only started today and i turned on FG today

[misty epoch]

I had zero crashes for the 5+ hours on day 1 using the same settings. Post game update and mod update I crash alot. So it must be one of those that changed something.

[dense yoke]

which reshade insstaller to use for this game?

[placid wind]

What da scoop on yours vs Jon’s. I am trying to (slowly) learn more around these parts.

[visual cloak]

DX12

[dense yoke]

i mean the installer with addon support or wthout?

[fringe mesa]

his is per channel tonemap in lms with some hue stuff
mine is by luminance tonemap which then takes per channel lms purity and then applies display mapping per channel in lms then restores the luminance of pre display map color then does a max channel display map

[visual cloak]

Ohhh always with addon support

[slim schooner]

Ahhhhh yessss sure I got it (I probably need to take side by side screenshots or something )

[pallid pine]

Latest update messes with colors (darkens, changes tone, and oversaturates) and the HDR slider now doesn't show the forza symbol. Rolling back to previous version.

[fringe mesa]

ye ui broke with that, for now use this one
#1504717987876180119 message

its gonna be updated in a bit

[solar shard]

Soon™

[abstract verge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-made-those-words-up-soldier-boy-jensen-ackles-the-boys-blasphemy-gif-26043524

[leaden tendon]

Can you ELI5

[fringe mesa]

maybe

not even sure

basically

I do more to separate how hues, saturation, and contrast all change

[wispy eagle]

could be unrelated but i crash when using jon wip build. musa build is fine. FG on or off doesn't make a difference for me.

i would suggest to cap the frames and make sure that you arent at 99% gpu usage. around 90 should be enough to hit hundreds of frames especially 4x MFG. it could be a standard GPU power delivery or driver issue.

[leaden tendon]

When I do the slider the icon disappears at 900 at least to my eyes

Is that normal even tho my peak is 1015?

should I set it to 1000?

[kindred kettle]

Many such cases, actually.
My Samsung S95D realistically caps out at around 1400 nits peak when I use Windows' calibration tool, but Windows reports a 1500 nits peak rating.

[leaden tendon]

Should I set paper whites to 100?

[fringe mesa]

preference

I like 100

[leaden tendon]

What does it change realistically?

[fringe mesa]

but i play at night

it's just changes the average brightness

[leaden tendon]

Does it make the highlights pop more

or just the overall brightness down

[fringe mesa]

depends what you mean

the greater the ratio between paper white and peak

means highlights stand out more

compared to the rest of the scene

if you set peak and paper white to the same value

that's essentially what sdr is

if you like overall brightness then set paper white high

if you like dynamic range set it low

the correct way to set it is based on what's comfortable to your eye in your viewing environment

[leaden tendon]

Thank you

I set it to 100

The difference in brightness was very minimal but the pop of light from the smaller lights within the overall scene looked great

[wooden linden]

Should I set my display peak brightness? Logo is not hidden so it seems not working correctly

[solar shard]

• add tone map option to menu with vanilla, vanilla+, and custom
• vanilla+ has the same contrast profile as SDR, with gamma correction and improved hues
• custom uses a custom tuned contrast profile, with lut scaling and improved hues

no UI stuff in this one so there shouldn't be any issues 😅

[frigid monolith]

love how the renodx mod in this game allows me to set paper white to 120 nits and still get 2000 nit highlights! Without the mod, it seems the lower paper white lowered peak brightness quite a lot, and I noticed less dynamic range overall if I wasn't at 200 nits paper white.

[smoky cloak]

Awesome. Which TM do you prefer Jon, I tend to align with your preferences

[solar shard]

I will likely end up adjusting custom more. This has largely been me just experimenting

[solar shard]

not sure right now tbh

I think vanilla+ might look better right now

need to add gamma correction to custom, the LUTs just don't look right without it

[storm trout]

Is the Musa version and Jon's version two seperate mods? or just iterative versions of the same mod?

[solar shard]

vanilla+ is what musa was doing

[static sparrow]

Can’t wait to play and load all the mods with my poor 16GB of RAM

surely I’ll survive

[solar shard]

Pushed code but for the RHI users, I have no clue if the change I made to make the tone map type option possible is gonna compile correctly in snapshots

[wet dragon]

anyone found a fix to the game only seeing 12/16gb of vram?

Massive stutter even though I'm getting decent performance.

[digital sentinel]

it needs to be patched by the devs

[wet dragon]

figured

sad days

[misty epoch]

Does the Steam version use the same system as Xbox PC app? Like achievements and game save? i am using PC Gamespass right now but want to get on Steam later, will I lose progress?

Also, mod relatd - Should I be deleting casche or soing anying when I update the mod with each new version?

[pulsar peak]

I’m getting crimson desert vibes here lol

[red lagoon]

Yep

[pulsar peak]

Patch broke Reno! Roll back! Roll back!

[red lagoon]

Wanted to know the same

[frigid monolith]

I find the custom option helps a bit with the overbrightened gamma I feel like I notice, especially at nighttime! Pretty similar to Vanilla+ though.

[smoky cloak]

what patch?

[pulsar peak]

game patch

[frigid monolith]

when was the game last patched? today?

[pulsar peak]

i believe there was a second smaller one yeah

[frigid monolith]

interesting. I wonder if they will alleviate the noise with RTGI soon. I also notice my game crashes when I switch the renodx options in game sometimes.

[keen fossil]

I'm surprised Reno ever worked at all, Forza Horizon is notorious for not liking things trying to hook into it...

[pulsar peak]

yeah thats why the settings are so limited to in game

[keen fossil]

Even RTSS having app detection level on anything but none crashed game on launch over and over

[frigid monolith]

I know especially considering it being online and all that. I'm really glad renodx works, it's such a relief for my cirumstances. Can actually lower paper white and still have my bright highlights.

[keen fossil]

I mean apparently it doesn't anymore?

I've been resorting to RTX HDR personally cause I don't trust Forza's anti-cheat XD

FH5 it'd be whatever, their anti-cheat sucked, pretty sure they tried to upgrade it this time round

[keen fossil]

Also unless the game can patch while still running <.>

Cause I can still connect to online and I left the game running overnight lol

Meanwhile the first patch refused to reconnect till I restarted

Idk if this interests anyone btw https://github.com/KoKlusz/HDR-Gaming-Database/discussions/123

[fierce rover]

The support site only lists one patch on the 18th

[keen fossil]

Yeah I don't think it's been patched since

My biggest problem with the game is the white point just seems to shift all over the place at will

Either that or it's the black levels or something keeps changing

Like I just said about this in the HDR Discord but why... is the night sky actually dark in the city, but gets lighter outside the city, much lighter... it's meant to be lighter in the city... that's how light pollution works.

[tender mauve]

renodx is nice.

[keen fossil]

Speaking of night sky being too bright outside the city, that screenshot shows it

Go to the city on that same setup, night sky will actually be near black

[tender mauve]

its realistic

due to light pollution

[keen fossil]

It's the opposite of realistic....

The city sky is brighter because of light pollution irl

[tender mauve]

ah mb

\thanks for correcting though

[frigid monolith]

yes I noticed this. it's why I love renodx in this game! lower paper white lowered dynamic range with the native HDR. but blacks would look raised at night and in the car which looked so ugly. with renodx and the custom option, I find it's soooo much better and natural to my eyes!

[keen fossil]

I would be confused if everything suddenly got brighter as I went out into the countryside irl ngl XD

[keen fossil]

I will have a look at it then, if that's something RenoDX is managing to compensate for

Easily my biggest peeve with the game rn lmao

[frigid monolith]

its like sometimes the game just wants the blacks to be raised especially in the car, no idea why.

[keen fossil]

Game has a lot of weirdness still atm tbf... Feels more like an early access or beta

[frigid monolith]

yeah I was switching between vanilla, vanilla+ and custom in the car when it was dark. vanilla was HORRIBLY washed out with basically no dynamic range. Vanilla+ was way better. Custom was a bit better than Vanilla+.

[keen fossil]

Like the lights projecting into my Toyota Chaser were just pulsing, for no reason

[frigid monolith]

Overall I love the color grading though especially near foresty areas. It just looks so natural and nice.

[keen fossil]

Only happened once btw, and only on that car, dunno why

[frigid monolith]

hmm, haven't noticed anything like that yet.

[keen fossil]

I felt like if I had epilepsy I'd have been having a seizure at high speed lmao

[frigid monolith]

that doesn't sound pleasant lol. did renodx fix that issue?

[keen fossil]

I haven't tried it, only just heard there's RenoDX for FH6 tbf <.>

If I do try it, will be tonight, got hospital appointment later today and just cba doing anything that might annoy me before then lmao.

I've just been using RTX HDR atm which I'm not happy with but it was better than what the base game was doing in HDR

[grizzled helm]

You're better off using Reno and changing settings on your monitor or TV to get more contrast. rtx HDR is just absolute garbage

[frigid monolith]

I love RTX HDR. it does look nice in that pic. Honestly, I'd choose RTX HDR over the native HDr only because I'm in a dimly lit room and I want it to be 120 nits and still get bright highlights. It really neutered highlights lowering paper white with the native HDR. not an issue with renodx.

as long as you use "accurate" settings with RTX HDR lol

[keen fossil]

RTX HDR is the only solution at all in some games, especially if you get paranoid with bans in online games <.>

Like GTA Online annoyingly....

On Enhanced

[keen fossil]

It can look great but yeah, that's the big struggle

Plus the fact it pulls from the game's base image

[grizzled helm]

I guess yeah, but if you're going to use a postprocess filter I'd recommend Pumbo's AutoHDR or specialK. RTX HDR also has a performance hit

[keen fossil]

And is not remotely smart about how it actually handles that

[grizzled helm]

Most TVs nowadays offer "HDR remastering" or something similar which essentially does the same thing as rtx hdr

personally if I don't find a HDR image pleasing or fit to my environment I enable DTM

[keen fossil]

My LG C2 uses HGIG but it really doesn't look as good as even RTX HDR. I will agree though that it's a suboptimal solution (RTX HDR that is)

[frigid monolith]

my issue with pumbo and specialK is I need my 1000 nits, I'm just very picky about that lol. but also the debander with RTX HDR is amazing and really clears up color banding. I just can't with any other methods sadly. And the ReShade debander ruins texture detail, so idk, I'd rather have crushed blacks with RTX HDR but smooth color gradients and it looking "right" to my eyes :)

[keen fossil]

Basically asking an AI to actively repaint your game <.>

[grizzled helm]

I get why people like it though. It is very good at creating an HDR-y image

[keen fossil]

Which can work great

Until it doesn't

[keen fossil]

The crushed blacks is one of the things driving me mad but it doesn't actually look too bad in RTX HDR

[grizzled helm]

for me honestly a dim HDR picture is better than overblown highlights and not being able to see the sun in a skybox

[keen fossil]

That's another problem I was having with the base game's HDR....

Being blinded by the skybox.

[grizzled helm]

Reno fixes it for me

Both in HDR and SDR

[keen fossil]

I will defo try it later today, just hope it doesn't end up crashing constantly lol

[frigid monolith]

honestly I almost prefer the crushed blacks, especially with VRR on in a lot of games, which actually raises the gamma tad if you didn't know. it's worse if you are below 100fps, however. but it can make games look a bit more milky and hazy from my testing. and idk, RTX HDR is nice and convenient, and I can set paper white to a low value and get 1000 nit highlights still. yeah, it's not ideal. but I'm really thankful to have it as an option. I hope nvidia improves on it with future updates.

[keen fossil]

Should be stable enough considering I don't use frame gen or RT

[keen fossil]

Maybe one day, when they're eventually done obsessing over AI for other things <.>

[grizzled helm]

Without AI Nvidia would cease to be

don't think they can just go back to making consumer products

as in, after dropping AI in a hypothetical scenario

[frigid monolith]

I get why everyone is bothered by Ai and their insistence on saying it nonstop and putting it in everything, but idk DLSS 4 proved to me that AI has its uses. Same with RTX HDR. Even Auto HDR on the Xbox to me was a godsend for older games and made me happy. but I think they really need to cut down on the data centers since it's causing environmental issues and memory prices are skyrocketing too. It's a complicated issue I feel like.

[grizzled helm]

FYI auto HDR on Xbox is just a post process filter

Not even what rtx hdr is

[frigid monolith]

wait I thought Microsoft said they trained AI to look at a bunch of images when they worked on Auto HDR

[keen fossil]

It's that they don't care about us anymore, not that AI is necessarily bad, they care about their big corporate partnerships now, they make significantly more money than they ever did from all of us combined

The fact I'm still having to use driver version 566.36 on my 4090 says enough <.>

[frigid monolith]

yeah, and I feel like Jenseng has a lot of ulterior motives, like he cares more about money and not so much being pro consumer. Nvidia definitely seemed to change around 30 or 40 seires it seems like.

[grizzled helm]

the series x I believe doesn't have any hardware capable of running AI models of any capacity

[keen fossil]

I mean their choice on the launch state of the 50 series and 32 bit PhysX shows he's either out of touch or doesn't care

[grizzled helm]

nah they've always been like this lol, since the start

[keen fossil]

Speaking of this, I bet the only reason he actually went back on this is it made the cards look like crap running Mirror's Edge at 3fps XD

[grizzled helm]

I would say the most major change Nvidia had was establishing themselves as the company that makes halo products. Before the Titan, AMD was always one step ahead or behind

at some point Nvidia realized they could have these super rich customers, those who would purchase a Titan X

[keen fossil]

Jensen went from

To "I don't need you for a shinier jacket anymore"

[grizzled helm]

They could just not bother competing with AMD in that sense, which they stopped doing

Ray tracing, DLSS, CUDA

[keen fossil]

That's why his jacket gets shinier XD

[grizzled helm]

lol yeah

man Jensen is really unlikeable

[keen fossil]

Oh god ray traced Jensen Huang sounds like something I don't want to see in my video games ngl

[grizzled helm]

have any of you watched any of his keynotes. he's like a child, it's sort of scary to know he's one of the richest people alive

[keen fossil]

Yup lmfao, I can't help but laugh at him but yeah it's true

[grizzled helm]

technocrats are as evil as industrialists but now they wear stupid clothes

[keen fossil]

Speaking of like a child <.>

His entire body language and everything and he's basically playing with upgraded action figures <.>

Yeah I always thought rich people were weird, but he's a dif kind of weird to the others

[grizzled helm]

Damn he's short

[keen fossil]

Pretty average for his people, accompanying with a picture, it's not racist, the facts are right there XD

Kinda weird that contrast with the 1 middle guy

Btw what's a cool car that's in FH6 that wasn't in 5

Wtf is this lamppost doing

Anyone seen this before? <.>

That ain't right

Every single one of those specific posts with that light, is now like that

[digital sentinel]

it shows da way

[fallen delta]

i feel like the sun is too big of a white blob

[keen fossil]

Interestingly enough as soon as it went back to day, that went away

And it was only on those posts, the ones with the lamp attached in that exact design

[hidden epoch]

Can be used online?

[frigid monolith]

Curious what you all would choose: 4K DLSS Quality Preset L, RTGI on High, everything else maxed, with 90-100fps; or 4K DLAA Preset M (or L?) no RTGI, max everything else, with 120fps?

I'm a bit torn honestly

with the RTGI noise and what not

I sometimes notice it with foliage that is darker, but most of the time trees look really nicely shaded and crisp. only see a little noise. 90fps is fine, but 120 is sooo nice. I wish I could do DLSS Performance but I know the noise would get worse.... so yeah.

[keen fossil]

I don't use RTGI on the game cause I think it looks weird so you've got my answer <.> framegen off too although I do use preset k not M or L lol.

[frigid monolith]

it does look weird! I just compared in a forest during the day and there's this ugly green tint applied to trees and foliage gets super dark with RTGI on High! SSGI on Ultra looks way more natural!

[red lagoon]

Forza never really had any proper anti cheat

[frigid monolith]

oof, I see a lot of ghosting with Preset M even with DLAA, damn

would use K but I like the better HDR effects with L/M

[queen knoll]

Do you use FG too, because if you use change to preset B on NVPI, and no more ghosting

[frigid monolith]

I'm not using FG honestly. I would but I noticed some weird frame pacing issues, even with Display Commander's DCPacelock=1 setting.

L cleared up a lot of the ghosting thankfully

[queen knoll]

Im on Preset L with Performance mode and 2x FG and i dont have ghostig, only the ray tracing denoise, which is ocasionaly not all time

[frigid monolith]

that's really good to hear

[queen knoll]

This i have on NVPI

[frigid monolith]

thanks, I'll be sure mine is set to that rn. Do you use any external fps limiters?

[south grotto]

Acting like rtx hdr isn’t a post process filter 💀

They are both just inverse tonemapping and look virtually identical with the same gamma/contrast

Only difference is that you can tweak the contrast n stuff with rtx hdr but both are just dogshit

[frigid monolith]

I'll always love RTX HDR, but it is definitely just a smart post processing filter. I love how granular the controls are and the debander helps me with my peace of mind since I don't see as much color banding.

[solid canyon]

It's only good for auto converting movies and shows into "HDR" using MPC-HC imo

[queen knoll]

I play on my PC + OLED G3 which is a 120 Hz, and i set my fps limitter to 117 fps on Nvidia control panel which will follow the reflex guidlines!
Also Vsync ON on nvidia control panel and off in game becsuse gsync!

[frigid monolith]

It's also the only method on YouTube for HDR other than Auto HDR (which just blows up the highlights and everything). I can't live without my RTX HDR on YouTube now lol

[frigid monolith]

thanks. I'll try that. I'm also on 120hz on my S90C TV, so I'll set it to 117 and try FG and see how it goes. I'm NOT going to look for judder or stutter though since I have a bad habit of that. Also, do you use Reflex+Boost in game? I found Reflex on does nothing lol. Only Boost lowers latency.

[queen knoll]

REFLEX is only ON , without boost

[south grotto]

boost more often than not introduces stuttering/framepacing issues from my experience, not sure about fh6

[frigid monolith]

it definitely caused more stuttering for me in FH6 with Bosot on

[solid canyon]

If you already have reflex on in game or using Rtss, limiting your frames again with Nvidia is at best counter productive and at worst applying reflex algo to 117hz instead of 120hz

[south grotto]

reflex wont really lower latency if youre at like 90% gpu usage or below

[solid canyon]

Based on my testing

[south grotto]

its generally just for gpu bound scenarios

and also FG

FG without reflex

is hideous

most games wont even allow setting that

[solid canyon]

It NEEDS the reflex info

[frigid monolith]

thanks! Yeah, I'm using the 117 fps cap right now with the game maxed out and DLAA Preset L and FG at 2X and it's actually really nice and smooth! I'm getting LESS LATENCY than before when I had the 120fps cap and no FG (45-48ms). Only reason I didn't do 117 fps cap was I did notice some judder. But I'm not seeing that right now, so I'm happy :)

[south grotto]

what info

it just needs the streamline stuff like motion vectors

[queen knoll]

If you set right all on nvidia control panel and NVPI, you will have a great experience on gaming🍾
Also when use dlss 4.5, set sharpness dlide to 0 in game

[frigid monolith]

I'll try Display Commander again at some point and see how it affects motion with FG on, but I'm starting to wonder if the Nvidia FPS cap at 117 is just the way to go now...

[south grotto]

prolly need to cap 116

unless youre not using vsync for whatever reason

[frigid monolith]

well DC caps it at 115, that's the thing, and to me it definitely wasn't as smooth compared to locked 120 in this particular game. not the case with many other games. But this one just seems finicky and much smoother when locked at the refresh rate I guess.

[south grotto]

yeah dc will cap lower because it doesnt want to run into the cap that nvidia will do on its own via reflex

reflex cap is kinda meh framepacing wise

[frigid monolith]

yeah

I feel like even at 144Hz, 139 fps cap seems smoother than 137 from Reflex. I know Reflex has it's own frame pacing issues it can induce too though

[queen knoll]

Low Latency Mode: On

This will noticeably reduce input latency without being too heavy on the CPU like the "Ultra" setting (which can cause frametime spikes/stutters in CPU-bound games)
That said, contrary to "Ultra" and NVIDA Reflex, the "On" setting doesn't include an auto-fps limiter so you have to set it manually for your display through the separate/dedicated option in NVCP for the best smoothness and responsiveness.

Max Frame Rate: Manually set it based on your current Refresh Rate (following Reflex guidelines +1fps above them)

If you have a 60hz display set it to 59 fps
If you have a 120hz display set it to 117 fps
If you have a 144hz display set it to 139 fps
If you have a 165hz display set it to 158 fps
If you have a 180hz display set it to 172 fps
If you have a 240hz display set it to 225 fps
If you have a 360hz display set it to 326 fps
If you have a 480hz display set it to 417 fps
This will ensure to always be within your VRR/G-Sync range in-game without ever activating V-Sync (which otherwise could still work as a fallback to fix tearing but increasing latency and making frametime consistency worse).
The "+1fps" above the Reflex guidelines for each Refresh Rate ensures you're actually giving priority to the Reflex auto-cap whenever available (e.g. 116fps at 120hz) which will have the lowest latency possible while still correctly capping all other games without Reflex support (e.g. at 117fps at 120hz instead)
This method will also immediately make you aware of which game is actually using Reflex (e.g. if you see 116fps) or not (if you see 117fps)

[frigid monolith]

Oh so you do Low Latency Mode On along with the 117 or 139 fps cap depending on the refresh rate?

[south grotto]

tf is this shit

[south grotto]

no

reflex overrides low latency mode

bs info above kek

[sturdy niche]

is it even worth to have low latency enabled in control panel, i just have it off and any game that supports it i enable ingame lol

[south grotto]

only for pretty old games i guess

[frigid monolith]

this seems like a sound guide to me honestly

the only thing I have concern over is Low Latency Mode set to On. I tested it in RE4R and I'm pretty sure I had more frametime spikes, but it could have been something else with my PC. Not an issue anymore though, I have it off currently. Just worried my games will stutter more if I have it on lol. I'd kinda prefer JUST doing the fps cap for now

[south grotto]

well if you follow that guide youll always run the Reflex limiter in applicable games... which is shit

xd

[frigid monolith]

Right, but it's not an issue if I disable reflex :D which I honestly like doing in games without FG just because Reflex on it's own tends to mess with frametimes so much in my experience

[queen knoll]

If you use GSync is a must, if you not you can stick with normal mode😂

[south grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/piddel-piddel-meme-piddel-gaming-piddel-pain-pain-gif-26176777

you do you i guess

[queen knoll]

You can set for any game, you dont need to set globally

[frigid monolith]

Reflex can be nice when GPU bound, so I enable it depending on the game and if it causes more stutters. I care a lot about good motion lol and am nitpicky with microstutters and what not.

[solid canyon]

Those numbers are based on the reflex equation

[south grotto]

reflex doesnt cause stutters if you dont run the shitty reflex limiter

[solid canyon]

+Boost in most games in my experience due to developer implementation issues

[south grotto]

i didnt talk about boost mode

did i

stay away from that

[solid canyon]

In this game it works fine tho is my point, your just saying your opinions my dude

[frigid monolith]

I think the guide is fine because you get lower latency and don't HAVE to use Reflex if you want a smooth, low latency expeirence... I get 18 ms in BO7 if I cap my fps to 139 vs 25-30ms if I do 144. reflex drives me crazy with judder and microstuttering in a lot of games. I do like Display Commander's reflex mode and Special K has really good Reflex injection too.

but you can do an fps cap in NVCP at 139 or 117 and pretty sure it's not gonna cause stuttering with Reflex's 116 or 138 fps cap... I could be wrong, maybe somewhere here knows more about that. But Low Latency Mode set to On I feel like will maybe complicate things more or add more variables, idk.

[abstract verge]

Low Latency Mode on only works with DX11 and if reflex is on it doesnt do anything

[old quartz]

Really like this “inaccurate“ profile that my cal guy gave me separately for gaming. Works great for Forza 6 and Diablo 4

[olive junco]

low latency mode just sets the max prerendered frames to 1

[wraith grove]

Guys how are you?

For an Oled panel , should i use Vanilla or Vanilla+ for best color acurrate?

Tks

[south grotto]

[olive junco]

[frigid monolith]

Vanilla+ for sure

[pallid pine]

Game needs ray reconstruction like yesterday. The fizzle is really bad.

[opaque garnet]

New version looks great, thanks Jon!

[keen fossil]

I mean you say that but they defo know when you're doing dodgy stuff, modded a car I missed (because their game wouldn't work properly for months) into my garage on FH5 once, OFFLINE, then went online after. Within like a week I got a message in my ingame message center basically saying "we know what you did, don't do it again"

I also played from FH5 launch and that was the only time ever, so it defo wasn't a coincidence

I do wonder how exactly they catch some of this stuff and why it doesn't always seem consistent

Like FF14 has a similar warning system for RWT

But it's like an automated system thing, it just knows

That's the same message I got sent on Fh5 lol

[abstract verge]

There was a car I wanted in FH4. But it was awarded for summer playlist and we were at winter. Each season lasted one week at that time. I fast forwarded my PC's local time two weeks later and it changed game into summer. I got that car by playing the playlist two weeks early. I got 1 month online ban from that time 💀

[keen fossil]

That's weird

[proper fulcrum]

i s2g theres something off with the game's physics, i find myself getting stuck like 10x more often than in FH4 or FH5

[keen fossil]

The physics were updated, to be more simcade than purely arcade

[proper fulcrum]

makes sense

[pure grove]

anyone else getting crash when the startup loading screen finishes? only happens when reno/reshade installed

[wooden linden]

why 120? I thought 203 is kind of "best" for overall brightness

[wooden linden]

why not 203? isnt 100 is too dark?

[frigid monolith]

since I am in a dimly lit room. 203 can look a bit too bright overall. 120 is more comfortable. I like 203 if my window is open and it is daytime though

[wooden linden]

okay thank you
my room is pretty light, so ill stay with 200 then. Just wondering if it worse somehow

[frigid monolith]

no, it's preference and subjective

I like highlights standing out more as well but sometimes 200 nits can look more pleasing. it's all accurate in the 100-200 nits range.

[wooden linden]

thanks
One more question: should I rely on the logo in the HDR settings when adjusting peak brightness? My Windows profile is set to around 2000 nits, but the logo only disappears at around 3500 nits. Why does it work this way?

[frigid monolith]

what display do you have?

[wooden linden]

modded samsung s95c to 2000 nits

[frigid monolith]

lmao that's what I'm using!

[wooden linden]

OH MY

[frigid monolith]

I have it set to 2000 nits in Windows for mine and it disappears at 2000 for me

[wooden linden]

hmmmmm weird

[frigid monolith]

so I'm thinking you might be havign the good ole Samsung bug where you need like a black level mismatch. So maybe go in TV settings to external devices or where it lets you change HDMI Black Level. Try setting it to LOW. See if the logo disappears at 1800? Or, open the HDR calibration app, and look at the test patterns, then go back to the game. I found that usually helps "fix" the tone mapping state of the TV when it's bugged. What I do to prevent it is by using this tool here https://customresolutionutility.net/

Run that, go to Extension BLocks, click on this:

go to HDR static metadeta

set it like that

hopefully that fixes the issue. it probably will.

make sure GameHDR is set to Basic and HDR10+ is Off

and restart the PC and turn off/on the TV after you mess with CRU too

[wooden linden]

it worked okay for me before, maybe something changed since latest nvidia driver update or tv update. Ill check it later. Thanks for detailed answer

[frigid monolith]

believe me, it'll work, then not work. that's the thing with this TV, IT decides what it wants to do. it has a mind of its own lol. As much as I love it, it can be quite a headache at times. Usually I don't have any issues and can set all my games to 2000 nits and HGiG works as expected.

[wooden linden]

yeah. Awesome hardware and dogshit software by samsung

[frigid monolith]

Like almost every Sony exclusive I play whether it's on PS5 or on PC, I have to set the HDMI black level to Low in order for it to track the EOTF properly and give me 2000 nit highlights. I didn't have to do that on my LG CX, or even the LG G5 which I tried for a few weeks. But idk, I love QD-OLED....

[slim schooner]

Afaik Samsung has always been sort of a pain for HDR gaming

[frigid monolith]

the community really made the S90C/S95C something special though, that's for sure

[fringe mesa]

Mine was doing custom without gamma correction

I had the vanilla+ option in the code but wasn’t using it

[sturdy niche]

so the custom option is from you?

the TM i mean

[fringe mesa]

Custom is John’s own thing

I wrote vanilla+ but was unused in the code in the previous addon

[sturdy niche]

ahh okay i see

[fringe mesa]

I also have my own custom thing that’s separate

[slim schooner]

So many options

What’s being picked up by RHI? Jon’s latest?

[solar shard]

Patches didn’t break anything in this

[pulsar peak]

Oh sorry got confused then

Apologies

[smoky cloak]

I never really know the answer to this. For any of the things RHI installs.

[fringe mesa]

In a dark room 203 is too much for me personally

[slim schooner]

Hahahaha yeah me neither

I guess I’ll just roll with RHI most recent one

[sturdy niche]

just drag the one from discord into RHI

[slim schooner]

Yeah that works too. I just don’t know which one to use from here since there’s 2 different options

Choice paralysis

[digital sentinel]

this is what I have installed via RHI, from Jon, it looked just fine, think I wont update for a few days till they get their stuff in order

this one if anyone's interested

[solar shard]

RHI should be my latest

Should have tone mapping options in the menu

Though idk if they will work

If someone wanted to confirm that would be nice lol. Idk if GitHub actions is based on the repo cmakelists.txt

[shrewd spruce]

Updated through RHI and i got the 3 tonemapper options. 3 are working and have subtle differences.

Thanks for your work btw :)

[modest lance]

is there like no way to fix this rt noise its so bad bro

[solar shard]

Awesome thanks!

[dark moss]

How is your night so dark mine looks bright

[modest lance]

hv u done windows hdr calibration

[dark moss]

Yup

[modest lance]

idk what else tbh i just have reno on

[dark moss]

[modest lance]

i havent taken much night pics other than these

[dark moss]

Looks crazy

[sturdy niche]

my noise isnt this bad wtf

i only see noise rarely, usually on trees or wheels

[modest lance]

im saying like

preset M extreme+RT

[south grotto]

where hdr

[sturdy niche]

im on Preset M also, DLSS Quality

[south grotto]

🥀

[modest lance]

im using medal to take scrshots 🎋

[sturdy niche]

just use reshade xd

[south grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

[modest lance]

yea ik but i was sharing to some my friends

the reshade ones dont load for em

heres one with reshade

[modest lance]

help me fix

[wooden linden]

Did as you told me and now logo in settings works correctly and disappears at 2000, and slightly visible at 1900
Thank you

[frozen edge]

optiscaler is ghosting like crazy

gonna try dlss enabler

since that has ghost buster

[edgy lintel]

Can we have peak brightness retarget in renodx menu? My Oled in true black mode hit 450 nits but i end up using 400 nits peak because fh6 doesnt allow *50s

[solar shard]

wish we could but we can't

I suppose I could use this new system I made to build out a bunch of options in 50 nit increments

but at the end of the day, that 50 nit difference will fade into the background if you stop measuring it

something else I could do is cut the range of the effective slider in half so it works in 50 nit increments, but then you have to set the slider to double the target which isn't intuitive at all

[modest lance]

i swapped to preset K and now ghosting arrives instead of rt noise omgbruh i cant win

look at the sideview mirrors

[abstract verge]

Preset E has less ghosting than K and less noise than M/L but more blurry in general. You may want to give that one a try

[solar shard]

with how much I have to restart this game, I've gotten so sick of this opening song

I really feel like I'm waking up where they are, every day

[steady crypt]

I got sick of that opening song the 2nd time I opened the game up, so I really feel for you there

[modest lance]

ok well everything else overall seems better but its kinda still there with preset K vs M

the reflections are actually lowk better than preset M with the rain

[olive junco]

@solar shard found something interesting: thewheelspin UI is so bright probably that it makes my monitor go into a save mode and turns itself off.

has happened 4 times now, and last time this happened was over a year ago before that.

[solar shard]

• add gamma correction to custom
• implement gamma correction compensation into lut scaling
• update vanilla+ to run by luminance with chrominance of LMS

basically finished with the HDR side of things now. SDR could probably use some more tuning though.

[wooden linden]

Does ray reconstruction enabled automatically when RT is on in forza?

[cursive venture]

The only leak i see is the game hogging nearly all your ram with standby memory, but i keep ISLC running in the background (as admin!) to clear it when it gets below 2GB available ram, plenty of games have this issue and causes stutters if you let it hog all your available ram, no issue on the vram though

[abstract verge]

No it does not use RR

[wooden linden]

But you mentioned preset e, I thought it’s RR

[edgy lintel]

Maybe you can make it a toggleable option?

[wooden linden]

By the way game have RR dll (it can be overridden with DLSS swapper in this game)

[abstract verge]

By Preset E I meant CNN's upscaler model E

[wooden linden]

Old stuff

[modest lance]

tried going down to 1440p with dlaa n taa same thing

is rt just chopped

[solar shard]

Actually yeah that makes sense…

[pulsar peak]

https://x.com/wario64/status/2057520462582739305?s=46

Wario64 (@Wario64)

Forza Horizon 6 has reached 6 million players

X · May 21, 2026, 5:54 PM

[edgy lintel]

1/2 - 1/3 and 1/4 options would be great i think. If actual peak brightness ends up a floating point, just use its integer part, throw out the decimal. If it is possible ofc.

[solar shard]

Not much reason to be more precise than 50 nit increments really.

[edgy lintel]

Your call, boss.

Whatever you decide on doing, we thank you. ❤️

[digital sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-tiktok-meme-reaction-gif-9595462199354763206

[solar shard]

AI just edited this file and apparently had a cached state of the lutbuilder that it worked off of, and it undid all my work and can't recover it

I hadn't committed it yet

[low wren]

jesus man, that sucks
sorry

[solar shard]

phew nvm, there was a saved state that worked

[low wren]

my AI deleted the entire RHI online manifest earlier 🤦‍♂️

[solar shard]

[tiny shore]

You can't use upscaling this game

It's just meant to be played at >Native like FH5/4/3/2/1 are

[tiny shore]

Model E with output scaling costs essentially the same as the modern transformer presets and can look better in certain problematic games

[drifting hare]

Any ingame recommendations for HDR Setting on a G8 Oled?

[fringe mesa]

i have g80sd and in a dark room I play with 100 paper white 400 peak with 400 mode on the monitor

[exotic cape]

Sorry for asking a noob question… will RenoDX with Reshade get me banned in FH6 and do we have a working version of RenoDX available to try? Also, if the logo disappears at 2500 should I set it at 2400

[safe jacinth]

I have same display, how do I enable 400 mode on the monitor?

[fringe mesa]

peak brightness off

[zealous bramble]

latest reno. on lg g5 custom looks better: brighter highlights. more believable colours. less brightness when where shouldnt be - but vanilla plus looks like .. vanilla plus [better vanilla] which is a VERY important option to have.
both fantastic - to me on my panel i use custom

[exotic cape]

I have G5 what do you mean by custom

[zealous bramble]

latest reno build now has 3 options off vanilla plus and custom

for tonemapping mode setting in reno

[exotic cape]

Oh nice, no ban risk?

[zealous bramble]

man i see people play cracked versions with all wheelspins cars and everything unlocked

i hope we legit players just with reshade w addons will be fine

so far are

[exotic cape]

So there’s a risk then 😝

[zealous bramble]

i think for an mp game there is always some risk for reshade w addons

[smoky cloak]

miniscule

[red lagoon]

Yea for stuff like getting cars through modding or getting ton of levels or credits, that's what can get you warned or banned

But using qol mods or other simple stuff won't

[red lagoon]

Yea they are very strict on getting unobtainable cars....

[exotic cape]

@zealous bramble with ur g5 what do you put for paper white

[red lagoon]

I would say very close to zero.....

[grizzled helm]

hate to be the taillight guy but reds in SDR seem a bit wrong

Vanilla/Custom/Vanilla+

[solar shard]

it is largely dependent on the car

also at night as the relative brightness of the tail lights is increased, the shift to orange is more pronounced

[vestal pulsar]

Is custom some kind of psychoV?

[solar shard]

kinda sorta

[vestal pulsar]

Nice

[solar shard]

I may need to tune the primaries for this game, would be the first time I've done that...

I'm surprised vanilla is shifting as much as it is there

[grizzled helm]

seems to be the case, yeah. Now in daylight it is an extremely bright red

this is kinda stupid and hacky i feel like. they shouldn't have to do this

[solar shard]

it's just the usual complications of accurately presenting HDR information on a screen without causing a bunch of other perceptible problems

like I could very easily make the tail lights look right, but then everythign else would kinda "glow" when it's bright

I can probably find a better compromise though

[grizzled helm]

just rawdog it like cyberpunk with unlimited nits for each highlight /s

[zealous bramble]

110-150 depending on mood and vibes.. I really prefer range but sometimes 110 feels darkish so i up a little. i run G5 permanently in 165hz fmm dv tv-led mode for best tonemapping the panel can do

[keen fossil]

The problem is they don't always know what's actually going on, and depending on what they do with their cheat detection it 100% can flag stuff that's not actually cheating.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone, just saying, they aren't stupid but their software is lmao

Bots just follow rules set in place by people that makes mistakes and detect wrong stuff cause it just sees things as "the same"

Happens all the time

On many dif games

[exotic cape]

So u run with DTM set to On?

[zealous bramble]

no god no

no no no DTM = evil evil evil

if you HAVE to use HDR you use HGIG

lgs have a fantastic tv-led dv tonemapping mode - it looks NOTHING like DTM very close to HGIG but a bit better to me

[smoky cloak]

At first I enjoyed the punch of Custom at night, but then it seemed a bit crushed at points

[zealous bramble]

game mode is broken so i use filmmaker for both dv and hdr

[smoky cloak]

I've gone back to Vanilla+

[zealous bramble]

vanilla+ is very good indeed! custom is like vanilla plus plus plus - but very tasteful plusing

[spice drum]

I have the same issue. Did you find any solution? It was working fine for me, I tried to add ReLimiter and now it crashes everytime, even without the ReLimiter addon

[frigid monolith]

nice!

[exotic cape]

Are you talking about the Pro mode? The only 3 modes that I know for g5 is DTM / Pro / HGIG

[zealous bramble]

no. so G5s are interesting but broken. game mode broken both hdr and dolby vision. for hdr you switch tv to fmm mode then force hgig with color control. the pro hack doesnt achieve full nits

but it has a literal tv-led dolby vision mode which works at 165 hz - you tunnel rgb 8bit container to the tv. as i said before game mode there is broken so you have to switch to fmm mode. there is a further bug when you switfch res or hz or boot pc or anything tv always forgets and sets dv game mode - i use color control app to quickly go back to fmm

there are fantastic owner threads on avsforums and such check them out - this is very off topic at this point

[low wren]

the game just let me know i'm in the top 100% in the world
nice!

[pure grove]

Nope still happens

[exotic cape]

@zealous bramble thanks bro I will check it out, I thought pro sliders were the best choice

[leaden tendon]

Uniform Brightness off adjustable HDR on?

or adjustable HDR off?

[twilit lily]

Always happens for me too. Is this just broken rn?

[low wren]

either that or we're bad

[twilit lily]

https://tenor.com/view/festthefestivefest-morgone-jones-morgan-jones-tweaking-tweak-gif-14491782401479632016

[slim schooner]

Whats the consensus about this? Custom way to go?

Seems significantly more punchy

[olive junco]

bad, buddy of mine got top 28%

or it's both

where it only sometimes does it correctly

[solid plinth]

For me both of those almost have no change, vasnilla vanilla + or custom

[gleaming tree]

when i open RenoDX through Reshade, it says hdr settings are handled in game, but ive seen people here talking about paper white settings. I'm pretty sure i downloaded the snapshot but i dont see settings

did i download the wrong version?

[solar shard]

it's the in-game menu

there is a tone map selector in the renodx menu but that's it

[gleaming tree]

ah ok, i feel dumb lol

[obsidian panther]

whats vanilla+?

[solar shard]

Vanilla SDR curve extended to HDR, by luminance with LMS chrominance and display mapping.

[obsidian panther]

hmm is this like something I can toggle

[solar shard]

There is a setting in the mod menu

[obsidian panther]

oh I didn't know there was a mod menu, I tried home key like its cyberpunk

but that didnt work

[solar shard]

It should

[fierce ice]

assuming thats what you have reshade set to

[obsidian panther]

sorry no homme key works

but I don't see any menu

for renodx

it only opens reshade menu

ahhhh

im an idiot