not until Forge fixes it
#Path of Exile 2 (Works with Vulkan now)
paper folio
balmy quest
So I patched draw distance in BG3 fully now
but then I started tracy profiling
apologies
I havent yet opened up 0.5
celest rune
So I patched draw distance in BG3 fully now
oi youre the guy who made the bg3 mod?
the sliders don work for me even after i change the settings as the note said
: (
paper folio
idk if vulkan quirk or 0.5 bug but leaving a map and coming back to it makes it get revealed in a buggy way
flat socket
idk if vulkan quirk or 0.5 bug but leaving a map and coming back to it makes it ...
You probably have to clear your shader cache
paper folio
where at
flat socket
AppData\Roaming\Path of Exile 2\ShaderCacheVulkan
paper folio
seems changing the sharpness setting crashes the game
tawny mortar
You mean the map doesn't reset for everyone all the time? I thought that is the norm, wasn't sure it stayed until zone resets before otherwise.
paper folio
no i mean I was going into a new map
so 0 map unvelieved
i'd leave and come back
and it would have like half or almost all of it unveiled
but in a buggy way
tawny mortar
Ah, something like that happens as well. The map is a mess so i didn't think anything about it, but maybe it shouldn't get reset/messed up every time you teleport.
maiden raft
If I use this custom ReShade64 is it going to fuck up ReShade for my other games too?
tawny mortar
Only if you use vulkan reshade in other games, if at all.
maiden raft
If it only affects Vulkan then I should be good. My other games are DX12
Hmmm... I see Reno in-game. But It doesn't appear to be affecting the image.
light robin
Patch broke it, have to wait for the updated reno
flat socket
All the sliders can cause a crash when using reno, was like that before the update as well.
maiden raft
Patch broke it, have to wait for the updated reno
RIP. Alright, thanks for the notice. ^^
Brother...
GGG are kind of dick bags.
near cave
That's more of an issue with how Special K functions than GGG going out of their way to block it
maiden raft
Perhaps. But they did go out of their way to blacklist ReShade so...
Meanwhile their own HDR is cheeks.
Leaving only Windows Auto HDR with no TRC Fix, so your eyes will melt.
near cave
I mean, you can use reshade and Lilium's shaders for better HDR. Not Reno good, but better than the alternatives
maiden raft
Yeah. Guess I'll go back to Vulkan. Only way to get ReShade to work.
Too bad their VK Api is bad too. Takes like 10% more GPU for the same FPS as DX12
paper folio
this is what I mean, damn weird
dapper marlin
Brother...
GGG are kind of dick bags.
They also flag dlss swaps, got a warning for that once.
Before official means of doing it.
near cave
this is what I mean, damn weird
I also have the same issue. If I warp out and back, the map and minimap just get all messed up
I tried clearing my shader cache to no avail
limpid lintel
Pretty sure vulkan is just broken in a bunch of ways
Ive seen a bunch of visual bugs with it
paper folio
i used opti for quite a while for fsr4 and no problems
although using vulkan now means i cant use it
light robin
Optiscaler had a recent update to support Vulkan nope?
paper folio
not sure, I couldn't turn on HDR on vulkan with optiscaler installed though so I assumed it was doing smth to poe
so i just uninstalled it for now
tawny mortar
I am kinda tired with the map and doing full reinstall. I'll check if it breaks on DX12 if it doesn't help.
So annoying to teleport and come back to an empty map a minute later.
paper bane
They also flag dlss swaps, got a warning for that once.
wow, really? I swapped my DLSS, guess I'll have to change it back
i would imagine that doing it through the nvidia app is fine, i think that (might?) handle the swap at a driver level and not replace the actual game file
dapper marlin
Yea I swapped them in the folder a long time ago with DLSS Swapper lol. Im pretty sure youre safe if doing it through nvapp. I also know you're good if you do it with dlssglom which is what I use personally since this replaces the ngx folder directly instead of inside the game directory itself.
paper bane
Yea I swapped them in the folder a long time ago with DLSS Swapper lol. Im prett...
yeah i just switched back to the original DLL and started using the nvidia app
tawny mortar
As ridiculous as it is - reinstalling has fixed the maps getting messed every time you change zones for me, so far.
grand crypt
hollow chasm
Brother...
GGG are kind of dick bags.
Ive been using SK hdr in both poe and poe 2 forever. No bans, no warnings...
paper folio
As ridiculous as it is - reinstalling has fixed the maps getting messed every ti...
Shader cache did it for me for like 30 minutes
Let me know if it stays fixed
It really is a bit annoying
tawny mortar
So far so good.
flat socket
I think if you delete the cache then don't touch any settings it should stay fixed.
tawny mortar
Didn't help me, but haven't had a map reset on its own after reinstall yet, whereas before it was guaranteed every time.
paper folio
reinstalled mine, ill try later when im able to play
south patio
only issue I've been having is the very long black loading screen when going from town to map and vice versa. Feels alot worse now than it was before, but not sure
seems to have been slightly alleviated after deleting the shader cache
paper folio
map reset for me just now so reinstalling didnt do much ig
glacial bane
only issue I've been having is the very long black loading screen when going fro...
yeah this happens to me now when it never did the last time I played
also it murders my main pc cpu temp(9800x3d)
only game that does it lol
I been just playing on my living room pc with a controller for the first time. Works pretty well with controller
this is also coming from the same game on release that hard froze mine and many other pc's
luckily they fixed that crap
only game I ever played that hard froze a pc
south patio
yeah this happens to me now when it never did the last time I played
is it only a vulkan problem for you?
glacial bane
I totally forgot I am playing vulkan for the first time in poe2
could be that not sure
never tried switching since I am running reshade
south patio
yeah same
it seems better after deleting the shader cache, but still kinda problematic
opaque dome
yeah this happens to me now when it never did the last time I played
Idk about vulkan but on dx12 the game keeps recompiling shaders excessively all the damn time this patch. Was fine before 0.5. So that also murders my CPU
glacial bane
Idk about vulkan but on dx12 the game keeps recompiling shaders excessively all ...
yeah that has to be it lol
their game is so damn unstable lol
it's definitely shader compile, but it keeps repeating it like every area load
opaque dome
it's crazy man, I think my PC is about to blow up when the CPU fans go crazy lmao. No other game ever did this. This is benchmark software at this point
glacial bane
on launch it was breaking people's computers 
i stopped playing the game till they fixed that shit
it was hard locking my pc
and even now this game is still cursed like forge said lol
opaque dome
bro it was locking up my PC, I had at least 1 hard crash an hour. Had to use single threaded mode
good times
glacial bane
i dunno what they did now with this season, but they have to fix that. Why i also switched to my older pc
balmy quest
What having no precomp does to a mf
opaque dome
haven't played today but in a hot fix the filter sounds are fixed allegedly
filter sounds were gone for everyone since launch
balmy quest
What having no precomp does to a mf
Inzane
You enter a new area
99% CPU util
As the game compiles like 1000 400KB shaders
glacial bane
yeah every single area
and even the areas you already visited
who needs the stress test software when you have poe2
that didn't happen every single time the last time I played. It did happen, but this literally does it everytime now for me lol
rather cook my older i9 than the new amd cpu
opaque dome
Is there any way to precompile the shaders or something? I'm really getting scared for my CPU
and it's hot af outside
balmy quest
I would need to add it
opaque dome
so I'm also cooking myself
balmy quest
XCOM 2 for instance didn't use shader cache
It made the game waste 40 seconds
Every start up
glacial bane
"nah bro, you just need a better cooling system" says poe reddit
balmy quest
Precompiling shaders
glacial bane
xcom 2 do be a classic, I shall revisit with the work you did at some point
been so long since I played
opaque dome
wondering if maybe somehow changing shader cache size might influence poe2
or reinstalling
glacial bane
doubt it
opaque dome
yeah Im just coping
can we play the game without shaders
I'm up for it
just keep my CPU alive
tawny mortar
map reset for me just now so reinstalling didnt do much ig
fwiw i'm on Linux and cleared prefix when i uninstalled the game, so got rid of the whole AppData/Roaming/PoE2 and whatever else the game makes.
paper folio
I suppose I could try and find misc folders and delete those
opaque dome
What kind of graphics settings changes require recompiling of shaders by the way? Wondering whether in general it's safe to adjust some settings without invalidating shaders
robust marsh
Why is this mod Vulcan instead of DX12? 
robust marsh
shame I had slightly better latancy on dx12
robust marsh
mod not working for some reason
glacial bane
It's not updated
robust marsh
opaque dome
Okay deleting all shader caches I could find actually seems to have resolved the recompiling issue
robust marsh
Can use lilums black floor fix for now
what should my settings be?
glacial bane
what should my settings be?
Just enable sdr black floor emulation and set processing cut off between 200-300 nits
All I really do
grand crypt
anyone have the issue where upon entering a zone or after a loading screen you have like 1 fps for like 20 seconds
and cpu is at like 800ms in the overlay
never had this before until 0.5
also im on like my third character already cause i honestly have not been cooking with my first 2 builds apparently
legit campaign was a struggle lmao
now im on a ice shot ranger/deadeye and its smooth sailiing so far
almost oneshot that bish
near cave
anyone have the issue where upon entering a zone or after a loading screen you h...
Had this happen every time, my two friends who're using dx12 are also having the same issue. I think it's just the update or servers
near cave
almost oneshot that bish
Funnily enough, I also one shot her with my huntess owl feathers + barrage + snipe. Didn't even freeze her, just parried for the frenzy charges
grand crypt
noiiice
im not a fan of the huntress tbh
atleast not with the "intended" playstyle
with like spear and buckler xd
grand crypt
Had this happen every time, my two friends who're using dx12 are also having the...
i see, yeah its so ass honestly, i died 2 times to the big gorilla because of that
used the checkpoint to port to him all of a sudden 1 fps
dead, respawn with 1fps
dead again
near cave
I almost failed the first room of the ascendancy trials because of the lag. Lost like 10 seconds from the room timer and didn't see where the crystal light went
Luckily haven't had any deaths from it,
near cave
atleast not with the "intended" playstyle
Agreed. The intended style is psychotic. Constantly switching between melee, ranged, and parrying just to do the same damage as a beefed up arrow
I went hard into armor, evasion, and deflection and it's been working out pretty well though. I feel pretty invincible, but I'm sure that'll drop off in end game
the owl feathers are crazy with snipe. Dishing out 7x the damage every 12 seconds is nice
south patio
legit campaign was a struggle lmao
Yep. It's slightly better on dx12 but still present. Clearing shadercache alleviated it a bit for a while, but it quickly got back to where it was
grand crypt
Funnily enough, I also one shot her with my huntess owl feathers + barrage + sni...
do you have a clip of what your char plays like?
south patio
It does not get better in the endgame either
Takes like 10 seconds opening the world map sometimes
Loading in and out of maps is not great
If you die at a boss and respawn, the game decides to tank the FPS to like 1 for 5-10 seconds until it stabilises
near cave
do you have a clip of what your char plays like?
Could record one later. It's nothing crazy, every 4 seconds I get an owl feather charge and I can consume 3 by rolling to add 6 full damage projectiles to my next attack\
So I usually parry 3 times to get 3 frenzy charges, roll away, activate barrage, then snipe
the shots spread, so I gotta stay close enough that they don't miss, but they seem to home in/aim at your target anyway
near cave
It does not get better in the endgame either
Not looking forward to that, I've mapped where enemies swarm you right out of the gate
opaque dome
So I usually parry 3 times to get 3 frenzy charges, roll away, activate barrage,...
Got this for the primal bounty Spirit walker projectile node, it's insane. 100% can recommend.
near cave
Oh man, that'll be sick. Save me from accidentally rolling before I'm ready to snipe too
opaque dome
honestly it's quite crazy. On barrage this thing consumes your frenzy charges once for 3 empowered attacks
main dagger
Anyone with performance and crashing issues set a pagefile of 48gb. Even maps are smooth.
tawny mortar
Game has some issues with cache for sure, think i finally solved mine by upping the limit of files that can be opened, disabling cache cleanup, and adding --waitforpreload
Can try that on Windows as well, I have appended to game exe path --nologo --waitforpreload
And I play monkey build, shredding everything in SSF so far.
paper folio
does waitforpreload actually work?
tawny mortar
I've noticed the game will be on pause sometimes after setting it and loading somewhere, I assumed that was the sign it is working. Whether it helps or not - no idea, worth trying, I still had issues until I did other stuff.
glacial bane
anyone have the issue where upon entering a zone or after a loading screen you h...
yeah dude it's so ass lol. I don't understand what they did for this to happen now. Hope it gets fixed soon
Monk has been really smooth sailing leveling so far. You don't even need to upgrade a weapon since you just use fists and do huge damage
I am still early into it though
at act 4
so didn't get to endgame yet
paper folio
i actually dont seem to have that issue
only issue for me thus far is just the map resetting
grand crypt
Monk has been really smooth sailing leveling so far. You don't even need to upgr...
monk was my first one
did an ice strike one but i was struggling in act 4
made a contagion essence drain witch after that
had like 0 single target dps but general clear was insane xd
now my ice shot ranger is hella fun
and like outside of my couple deaths with the giga fps drops i only died like.. two or three times
glacial bane
yeah i use storm wave to detonate the ice crystal and just blows everything up
for single target i debuff them, then freeze the boss and hit them with the one ice move that if uses a freeze charge it does insane single target damage
polar agate
If you have HDR on in game turn it off
when it's OFF the reshade not working but making it ON it works
delicate sentinel
Hey! So I played this game for the first time today and... I found one "bug?" that's quite the QOL problem for me: I can't rebind "dodge only" or "dodge/sprint" to the ALT key. I mean, I can, but then it does not work when I press ALT. Why?
Haven't seen something like this in any game thus far.
opaque dome
think you can't bind most things to single modifier keys like alt,shift, ctrl
glacial bane
in terms of performance? I can tell you based on me having one, it will melt your cpu
paper folio
wdym
and yeah performance
currently have a 7600x
doing 4k res
ik poe is cpu intensive but since im doing 4k i was wondering if that matters at all
red kraken
im curious if a x3d chip would do anything for poe
i changed from a 7900x to 9800x3d and my 1% and 0.1% low got much higher
paper folio
4k?
red kraken
yea
glacial bane
wdym
this game is constantly compiling shaders every area load and makes the cpu run hot
latent patrol
Hey, anyone know if there are plans for a reno 0.5 update?
glacial bane
paper folio
Hey, anyone know if there are plans for a reno 0.5 update?
i think forge will get around to it
he's just busy
for now use liliums shaders for black floor
and etc to your liking
latent patrol
i think forge will get around to it
Poor forge, hes working nonstop 😂 . He did some amazong work on crimsom desert
paper folio
and he's working on BG3
latent patrol
for now use liliums shaders for black floor
Will do ty 👍
latent patrol
He's a wizard
latent patrol
for now use liliums shaders for black floor
Do I need to use dx11 or vulkan when installing reshade for black floor etc? Or is dx12 safe
paper folio
reshade doesnt hook on dx12
you must use vulkan
check pins
altho the addon doesnt work you can still do lilum's shaders with it
latent patrol
Thx man
south patio
setting the pagefile to a higher number actually seems to have sorted most of the issues I was having
at least from my limited testing
latent patrol
oof, using vulkan is way too big of a performance loss, damn
paper folio
i havent felt a difference on my end
flat socket
Yeah, I've been lazy and have just stayed on Vulkan. Currently at T11 maps and performance has been similar to dx 12 for me.
south patio
I'm blasting max refresh rate on both so I can't see a difference anyway
muted ridge
is vulkan more optimized after this patch now? Back then it was unplayable (for me) with constant slight microstutters and crashes (every hour)
south patio
vulkan is very usable now
some people are reporting a lower FPS ceiling, but nothing dramatic
muted ridge
okay cool ima try it out
south patio
If you're having times where the game tanks FPS to like 1 for a few seconds when loading new maps and whatnot, try setting your pagefile higher
it fixed all of those issues for me even with 32GB ram
opaque dome
DX12 works better on my system than vulkan, but seems to vary a lot for people
dropping to 100ish fps during abyss and what not. otherwise capped smoothly at 156 fps
muted ridge
If you're having times where the game tanks FPS to like 1 for a few seconds when...
okay ill keep that in mind thx
hmm i installed renodx and the overlay pops up but the game still looks the same as if renodx isn't doing anything
i might have to reinstall the game hmm
glacial bane
that is because renodx is not updated for the newest version
muted ridge
oh, lol i see
muted ridge
vulkan is very usable now
I'm still stuttering in vulkan, actually the stuttering went from microstutters to full on stuttering. it's unplayable for me
i have a rtx 5080 ryzen 7 9800x3d
paper folio
7600x 7900xt here
no stutters at all
caveat, im not mapping yet
i also locked my fps so my gpu isnt maxed out
vale vine
i have a rtx 5080 ryzen 7 9800x3d
I've got the same setup and performance is really steady in t15 maps. I noticed that having reflex on in the settings caused alot of issues but I disabled it in campaign and haven't had any performance problems since.
muted ridge
I've got the same setup and performance is really steady in t15 maps. I noticed ...
Hmm I'll try turning off reflex then
south patio
I'm still stuttering in vulkan, actually the stuttering went from microstutters ...
I have the same specs and I'm not stuttering in vulkan, so I dunno
latent patrol
I lost like 100fps on a 5090 with vulkan. All i did was change in the config to Vulkan. Am I missing something?
limpid lintel
no vulkan certainly does have lower performance on high end hardware at the very least
especially on max fps
they can all drop to similar levels when a lot is going on though
vulkans main issue is that it doesnt even have a shader cache?
it has to recompile everything constantly
latent patrol
Hmm strange that some have similar performance and others heavily tanked
Loading screens for me was insanely long too
The cogs turned for ages
robust marsh
I only lost 10 average switching from dx12 to Vulcan at 4k dlss perf maxed.
115 to 104 or somting
limpid lintel
Loading screens for me was insanely long too
thats just shader compilation
robust marsh
would like to note this nvida setting fucks with a lot of things may be related. It fixed a frame dropping issue with obs so I always have it on this.
limpid lintel
i assume the more gpu bound you are the smaller the performance hit
robust marsh
yes that would make the most sense
latent patrol
@limpid lintel ah yeah makes sense. Perhaps if i wait for shader comp to finish my fps gets restored
rugged hollow
that is because renodx is not updated for the newest version
can't wait tbh ❤️
limpid lintel
<@203956901891932170> ah yeah makes sense. Perhaps if i wait for shader comp to ...
you can see shader compilation in the "F1" performance overlay
it will keep happening since it doesnt seem to have a proper cache on vulkan
unreal coral
would you be kind enough to update it > dosent seem to work as of now
south patio
Forge will get around to it when he wants to
light robin
If I understand correctly, either I use
Directx12 and get no way to hook reshade or specialk to fix hdr
Or
Vulkan, and got no shaders cache
Right?
paper folio
idk about that, fairly ignorant but the game doesn't run as "poorly" as it did first vulkan swap so it prob does have some cache
opaque dome
Aren't we all CPU bound on highend systems in poe2 though? Like I never reach close to 100% usage on the GPU during abysses etc. where FPS starts dropping a little
seems like the game is super heavy on CPU either way
flat socket
Vulkan does create a cache folder in the app data directory that is separate from the dx12 one
Think you can get ok results from native hdr in this game, but it has a weird bug where it uses the SDR brightness slider from windows when in hdr for paper white
light robin
But everytime I load a zone, shaders have to be recompiled. Vulkan bug only?