Dying Light: The Beast

[true smelt]

on the newest update from today

for me

[solid sorrel]

unlucky

[violet tundra]

which mods are u using?

[violet tundra]

Thank u

[solid sorrel]

I tested the RTX Enhanced mod

Couldnt see much of a difference

I imagine Miru's addon is already improving RT beyond what RTX Enhanced is doing

[violet tundra]

Which one is the Miru add on?

[solid sorrel]

RT and Shaders Tweaks

Trailer colorgrading is personal pref

It just changes the LUT

[violet tundra]

I'll test them all

[solid sorrel]

to be less green

[inland ravine]

I think the green looks alright but I wished it just impacted the chrominance

[violet tundra]

It crashes the game every single time

[inland ravine]

had the same issue

I just went with the addon version

[solid sorrel]

Guess I have special privileges

[violet tundra]

You cut the pak?

[inland ravine]

the main version just has the addon

[violet tundra]

Cause I'm using the alt

[inland ravine]

@rich stag 🙏
-# I have no idea what time it is for you

[solid sorrel]

It's because I've been bad mouthing The Least

So I am getting more improvements from mods to bridge the gap

[inland ravine]

someone needs to make a autumn foliage texture pack

[rich stag]

They probably changed the ppfx again, I really hate these live service slop

[solid sorrel]

They'll be updating the game another trillion times

So why dafuq it work on my end

[rich stag]

Hmmm are you on an older version maybe

[inland ravine]

maybe your graphics settings?

[solid sorrel]

Of the game? No

Graphics are maxed

Well I disabled lens flare and glow

And use 300% LODs

[inland ravine]

fullscreen or borderless?

-# not sure what window settings the game even has lol

[solid sorrel]

You're really asking this question in anno domini 2020+6

[inland ravine]

fair

[solid sorrel]

It's borderless

Maybe MFG copes through and doesn't cause a crash

[rich stag]

That ppfx error is due to some name changes in other ppfxs

That’s why it’s failing, I dunno why it’s working for you still tho

[violet tundra]

i'm trying any possible trick is not working

[rich stag]

It likely won’t work anymore for the alt version

[inland ravine]

think that error is meant for people internally lol

[rich stag]

[inland ravine]

unless they're cool with randos reaching out to their techart / rendering teams lmao

[violet tundra]

yeah have same impression

[rich stag]

Might download the game some time if I have enough disk space

[solid sorrel]

Redownload it

Still works for me

[violet tundra]

@inland ravine do u know if Reno for Wukong is working?

[violet tundra]

I did Vortex and Manual nothing to do

[inland ravine]

I don't own wukong

[rich stag]

The most it could do is enabling full resolution ray tracing, tweak some nvidia denoiser settings

They never shipped rt shaders with multi bounce

[violet tundra]

@solid sorrel the boiling shadows are outrageous

[solid sorrel]

And now that I've messed around it crashes

Ahhh

What did you do

Techland sent a zipbomb

[violet tundra]

🤢

[rich stag]

That’s the low sample count yeah

0.5 sample/pixel

[solid sorrel]

So were a quarter of the way done

• Needs RT multi bounce
• Needs fixes to distant tree LODs not occluding in shadow
• Needs large bodies of water to use RT
• Needs Musa to unslop everything causing banding

[rich stag]

First 3 are wishful thinking without access to the shader source codes

[violet tundra]

I'm losing my hype tbh

[rich stag]

Spirv cross just shits itself with any rt shaders

I could do multi bounce in dying light 2 because they actually shipped source 😭

[violet tundra]

it would need an U+ this game to be in an acceptable place

[maiden tide]

Can probably upgrade to 16 bit with a pak

Pumbo sent me a pak that did it on launch

[violet tundra]

please!

[maiden tide]

Need to look back at what he edited

Actually I don’t remember if I verified the pak was working

[rich stag]

Would’ve worked great if techland could just stop updating the game

[solid sorrel]

But is the issue due to lower bit from swapchain or the rest of their code being slop

Because 16bit doesn't always mean it'll fix slop code causes banding

[maiden tide]

Their render is fp11 and they do a ton of full screen passes

They’ll split tonemap, color grade, etc into multiple shaders when it could all be done at once

[violet tundra]

this game in this state is dogshit lucky I got it for 2 peanuts and 3 beans otherwise would be raging

[rich stag]

It has less potential than dl1 and 2

Imo

[solid sorrel]

We're anal, the game itself is fine mostly?

[rich stag]

The map just doesn’t have any parkour

[solid sorrel]

Welp

I never got past the church soo

I couldnt gauge

[violet tundra]

pls stop fomenting my rage

[rich stag]

Most of the time you are just spamming crouch jump or rope kick to get to waypoint

[violet tundra]

I'm pretty closed to press the uninstall botton

[inland ravine]

I enjoyed it more than DL2 at least

[solid sorrel]

Thats

A low bar

[inland ravine]

lmao

[solid sorrel]

DL1 remains peak

[rich stag]

I wish we get a city map if they decided to make dlc for this dlc game

[violet tundra]

imagine you wrote otherwise 💀

[rich stag]

I enjoyed dl2 with mods more than the beast

[inland ravine]

just need to figure out the luma + custom launcher integration for dl1 and we won't need dl2 or dltb anymore :p

[solid sorrel]

Truly

You can try to move away from it

But in the end all return to DL1

[solid sorrel]

Give it 5 years... Modded Least will be better

E3 2021 experience

Or whenever Least was announced

[maiden tide]

Elysium when

[rich stag]

That one was developed by another team rn

https://youtu.be/z8FduHDY9QU?si=ulp9vu8y4rjuc0da

[inland ravine]

needs multi bounce rt

[true smelt]

yeah same for now.

[true smelt]

it crashes as soon as i hit the menu screen

[true smelt]

yeah this

[maiden tide]

wait a sec

@solemn flint @rich stag

separate branches for sdr and hdr

[rich stag]

Hmmm so whats up with it

Just the average luminace shader being different there

[maiden tide]

the exposure indoors is the same between sdr and hdr

but different outdoors

maybe forcing to match sdr would make it the same

[solemn flint]

I had told u

[rich stag]

Yeah you can force the sdr path

[maiden tide]

i remember pumbo tried forcing sdr

but didn't work for some stuff

[solemn flint]

I forced it at a global level

That didn't work

Quick attempt

Not in individual shaders

I always suggest to ship modded shaders directly

Put the least in reno.

[maiden tide]

ya

[maiden tide]

wonder if I just went into data0.pak and replaced every instance of R11G11B10_FLOAT with R16G16B16A16_FLOAT

[rich stag]

You can extract the renderloop folder, edit them and pack them as a zip and rename as .pak

[maiden tide]

do i need to name the pak anything specific

[rich stag]

data2 - data7 is okay

[maiden tide]

ok got some bt2020 upgrades working

[violet tundra]

@maiden tide If u unslop the game u gotta become legendary

[maiden tide]

updated. added optional RGBA16_float upgrade pak:
https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/395?tab=files

@solid sorrel unslopped rgba16

[solid sorrel]

Time to test

Going to disable game updates now as well

man, Steam is abysmal for not allowing you to set this

[maiden tide]

ok so properly fixing the game is actually easy af

just forced the SDR exposure branch

SDR / Reno with fixed exposure + 2.2 emulation / reno without vanilla exposure + custom grading params

[sharp schooner]

so another update incoming ? or is this included in the "EXPERIMENTAL Render Target Upgrades" ?

[sharp schooner]

how to disable game updates with Steam version ?!

[maiden tide]

gonna put out a separate pak and a separate addon64 with fixed exposure and neutral tonemap

[solid sorrel]

Each game under steam has .acf manifest file

You have to set that file to read only

[maiden tide]

that'll be the actual fixed mod

[solid sorrel]

I can't believe it

The Least has been fixed?

[maiden tide]

problem is people are gonna see its dimmer on average than vanilla and call it trash so I'll keep the shit ass one as the main file

ya seems to be fixed

[solid sorrel]

Finally Musa can move on

Your job here is done

[maiden tide]

updates could break stuff though

[solid sorrel]

^

What could they possibly add that would be worth it?

BTW do we need to have any of the post processing settings on?

Or are those fine to toggle off per preference

Rgba16 seems to have worked

Not seeing goofy banding any more

Need to run through the intro labs because it was disgusting there

[maiden tide]

I think they're all fine

all I did was go into data0.pak and adjust exposure.ppfx

and adjust so that the hdr branch matches the sdr branch

[solid sorrel]

for The Least thats appmanifest_3008130.acf

[maiden tide]

game is fully unslopped now with these 3 files

[spring fog]

@pure blaze look

[maiden tide]

Dio won’t like it

Not nearly as bright and contrasty as vanilla

That’s gamingtech approved

[solid sorrel]

Finally

Time to test

Then play for 10mins before uninstall

[true smelt]

if only i could get the other mod to work

idk why it doesnt work for me

[pure blaze]

What

[pure blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[spring fog]

[pure blaze]

u just pinged me for dying light slop ?

you're as stoopid as musa

[spring fog]

people been waiting a long time for dying light slop

[pure blaze]

so ?

people have shit taste for shit games

idk how dl2 didn't nuke this franchise it was such a let down

[violet tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-simpson-gif-13518564799186478937

[solid sorrel]

it got better after a trillion updates and 5 years later /s

[pure blaze]

nah

[solid sorrel]

We have E3 experince mod now

to cope with

[pure blaze]

i won't even let it pass as sarcasm

[solid sorrel]

in 2056

[pure blaze]

complete garbage even now

game is fundamentally broken

[violet tundra]

it's a guilty pleasure

using Forge mods I'm fully coping

[solid sorrel]

DL2 with its planned story by Avellone, branching path ways ala FNV...

Then they got rid of him, redid everything and we got a dookie dropped on us

Temu DL1 with everything being bright and colourful for some reason completely destroying the gritty aesthetic

with non of the FNV story / quest charm

and barebones RT

AND NO HDR

[solid sorrel]

HDR brainrot / HDR but with no glow (bloom) / SDR exposure

Now I need to mod out that disgusting sun sprite

[true smelt]

I loved dying light 2 on launch

I think I put like 80 hours into my first playthrough

But I also find dying light 1 kinda shit still so that may be why the different playstyle spoke to me more

[solid sorrel]

ahhhhh, I just saw the 3 meter RT draw distance

@rich stag we cant increase the range like in DL2?

I couldnt record for some reason

but the RT shadows just spawn in and out

Is

[polar flume]

SDR exposure just means it will look exactly like SDR just with uncapped highlights right

[solid sorrel]

yes

[polar flume]

i see

[solid sorrel]

Musa has now matched SDR

[polar flume]

tbf i like both the second and third shot

[solid sorrel]

HDR has been fixed in The Feast

now we need RT unsloppification

[solemn flint]

don't change everything, not if it's before gamut expanding to BT.2020 (negative values).

stuff like bloom etc will have a useless performance impact in FP16

[rich stag]

Just regular shadow map

[rich stag]

You can try changing f_dxrt_ray_max_t in varlist_dxrt.scr

[solid sorrel]

wait

I am dumb, you already mentioned this

[rich stag]

I dunno if that actually works tho, I don’t see rt shadows when increased

[maiden tide]

Ya I changed the relevant post processing stuff and also lighting cause forge mentioned seeing banding

[sharp schooner]

I am playing DLTB using the modsRenoDX - HDR Fixes and Enhancements, RT and Shader Tweaks, RTX Enhanced and write-protexted the game'sappmanifest_3008130.acf.
Game is looking so much better now.
Thank you @maiden tide and @solid sorrel

[true smelt]

rtx enhanced works with shader tweaks?

[sharp schooner]

yes

[maiden tide]

someone should add hdr to dying light 2 now

[solid sorrel]

Miru

[slate gulch]

So for RT shadows do I install alt version or addon version?

[opal rock]

What amazing timing, finally coming around to playing the game and musa the goat just fixed it 😄

[quasi apex]

@maiden tide so is this game finally playable?

[solid sorrel]

RT is still slop

boiling

and 3 meter draw distance at parts

[solid sorrel]

^

[quasi apex]

even with the mods?

the rt and shader tweaks and rtx enhanced

[solid sorrel]

He thinks a couple mods is enought to unslop RT in The Feast

Its capped at single bounce

[solid sorrel]

^

[solid sorrel]

^

Miru was able to unslop it in DL2 only because techland gave source

DL2 and The Feast are both capped at 30units which is abysmal

for DL2, miru did 500

[maiden tide]

grass still looks pretty ass

but ya its playable

[quasi apex]

even with the mods?

[maiden tide]

only mod i tried is miru's

are there any good grass shadows mods

oh wait I see this

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/125

i only tried shader tweaks

didn't realize miru had other mods

[rich stag]

I stopped updating this because techland update is annoying

That file gets changed for every update

[maiden tide]

rip

ya I'm worried I'm gonna have to keep updating my shit and it's gonna be annoying

[maiden tide]

do i use preset l or m

[torn cedar]

I have read that L works better than M with performance and ultra performance Dlss

[polar flume]

M

L has issues still, and is like quite a bit more intensive despite having more image artifacts

M you can use at any level though as long as your gpu can handle it

using it in witcher atm with 70% dlss just fine

[opal rock]

Any mods you guys recommend?

[maiden tide]

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/433
https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/615

[opal rock]

Oh awesome thank you!

Is it intended btw that theres no real reno menu with the neutral one and its only controlled trough in game sliders?

[maiden tide]

RT fucks with injecting cbuffers meaning I have to hijack the in game sliders rather than adding my own

[opal rock]

Oh interesting

First time im seeing that xD But glad everything is in order then

[inland ravine]

game has a pretty nice photomode

also messing around with this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/255?tab=files&file_id=1155

[inland ravine]

someone needs to port dl1's post processing 🙏

[maiden tide]

post processing looks good here

better than dl1

[plain stump]

honestly I was fairly happy with the game. It's fun. Best game of the 3 imo

stupid b movie story of the first still clears for some reason though

[sharp schooner]

The only thing I really miss from DL1 in DLTB is the atmospheric music. Paweł Błaszczak absolutely nailed that vintage late-’70s to early 80s psychedelic Goblin, John Carpenter synth-rock soundtrack vibe. The soundtracks from Olivier Deriviere for DL2 and DLTB sound a bit too "modern" at times (even tough there are some gems in the whole, Paweł’s soundtracks for Dead Island, Dead Island: Riptide and Dying Light evoke that vintage atmosphere and sequencer-style of the classics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEpJYIn2ojw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5mF_fh1HXs

[sharp schooner]

Beautifully instrumented, sequenced and composed:
Deep melancholic athmosphere, mystic tension, raw analogue character and vintage warmth
https://youtu.be/SuC-520K8zQ?si=rj0IrQsWJ3EglZA3

[true smelt]

I hate it when my enjoyment of a game is tied to the developer of the game not breaking my setup with every patch

Between shader tweaks and now Reno

It’s gonna be annoying

[spring fog]

first world problems

they updated dl1 for 10 years bro, 10 fucking years
that is to be commended

[spring fog]

that's very much a perspective problem, enjoy the game without the mods, then go nuts

[true smelt]

i know but some part of me gets annyoed

when i know it will break in a few weeks at most

[spring fog]

it wont break if you run it unmodded first

experience the story, then come back with mods

or at least dont use mods with games likely to get updated a lot

[true smelt]

i consider renodx for example essential though

[spring fog]

sure they are, on older games that have finished their patching cycle

you're just asking for issues with this one tbh

[slate gulch]

Question should I use Alt version of RT Shaders or Regular addon one?

[true smelt]

alt version didnt work for me and a few others since the newest update

regular one works fine

it worked for others though so not sure whats going on. best to just try yourself. if it crashes when hitting the menu then you have the same issue as me.

[slate gulch]

yeah tried alt and it crashed with that ppx error.

[true smelt]

yup

[maiden tide]

autoexposure is pretty strong

makes the sky dim

I can roll off its strength for highlights

#if 1  // slightly reduce autoexposure strength for highlights
  if (USE_CUSTOM_AUTOEXPOSURE != 0.f) {
    float y = renodx::color::y::from::BT709(r0.rgb * autoexposure);
    float t = saturate(y - 0.18f);
    float strength = lerp(1.f, 0.975f, t * t * t);
    autoexposure = 1.f + (autoexposure - 1.f) * strength;
  }
#endif

[inland ravine]

siick

-# noticed that yesterday

does the game have a lighting buffer you can tap into?
can do the auto exposure on the lighting buffer instead of the scene buffer so that darker materials don't bias it

-# have no idea how hard it would be to change that lol

[maiden tide]

sounds like something I'd have to use luma for

[solid sorrel]

First DX12 Guma mod when?

[maiden tide]

RenoDX for Dying Light The Beast - Neutral Version updated
https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/395?tab=files

[rich stag]

You can change the auto exposure key/target luminance via modding I think

[inland ravine]

yeah that's probably way easier lol

just find it goofy when the auto exposure adjusts when you look at a dark material like asphalt

[sharp schooner]

When using the Neutral Version in concert with Restored SDR Exposure, I get HDR peak brightness (in highlights etc.) but only BT.709 colors. No DCI-P3 nor BT.2020 colors.
Is this supposed to be so or is it because I am using the other mods (Disable Global Illumination Desaturation, RT and Shader Tweaks and RTX Enhanced) ?
(When using the "Main Version" instead of the Neutral Version of RenoDX for Dying Light The Beast, I get BT.709 and BT.2020 colors.)

[maiden tide]

Ya it’s intentional, in the neutral version I’m not doing any artificial saturation boosting

The game renders entirely in bt709

[foggy dune]

Does the neutral version also support RT and why do you prefer the neutral version over the main like whats different. Im no HDR conosseiur

[foggy dune]

reshade is not showing up for me when i boot up game

[maiden tide]

the reshade installer should be run on this file:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Dying Light The Beast\ph_ft\work\bin\x64\DyingLightGame_TheBeast_x64_rwdi.exe"

if for whatever reason it still isn't working for you

you can unzip the reshade installer's exe

[foggy dune]

yeah i figured it out

[maiden tide]

and take the ReShade64.dll and rename it as dxgi.dll and place it there

[maiden tide]

neutral is much better, default was basically just a compromise cause I needed to figure out how to fix exposure

now that I have that fixed I should probably just make neutral the only version

their autoexposure code in hdr makes outdoors way brighter and washed out so they just cranked up saturation and contrast by slapping on ACES tonemapper

in SDR their autoexposure is too strong and dims highlights too much, I ended up forcing their SDR code and adjusting the way autoexposure is applied so it doesn't dim highlight as much

[sharp schooner]

depending on the display, the "Normal" version is still fine due to the enhanced color space

[maiden tide]

It’s just an arbitrary increase to saturation

The mindset that hdr means you have to jack up contrast and saturation so you can show off your expensive tv is one of the biggest issues with hdr games

I don’t even like the way the regular version of the mod looks

Was never satisfied with the mod before

Was easily one of my worst mods

Now I think it looks good

[maiden tide]

more adjustments
before / after

using hue corrected sdr eotf emulation and ipt instead of oklab now

[maiden tide]

turns out I also needed to change glow/lens flare/light streaks to get a proper match with SDR

they all branch in HDR

SDR / Reno

rip its making specular freak out

[polar flume]

[polar flume]

this is great

[maiden tide]

clamping the bloom input seems to work

[polar flume]

[maiden tide]

still small artifacts here and there

waste of time to track down all these shaders that could change with an update

glow/light streaks/lens flare are just gonna have to be a little different in hdr

[static rover]

I uh did thumbs up to the wrong message

still, thumbs up to you too

[polar flume]

👍

[true smelt]

need someone from techland in here so they can implement all this into the game

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

"i get it now" moment is what they need

[rich stag]

The RT blending of bloom is inv dest color

So it’s bad for hdr

[gloomy wraith]

Greetings. I’m having an issue with the RenoDx menu — it doesn’t appear, even though the add-ons tab has the checkbox selected. Ray tracing is turned on, but my TV only supports SDR. The menu showed up without any problems in Silksong. Any thoughts on what might be causing the issue?

What files should I use if I have an Sdr TV? I see you have several of them and you can combine them somehow . Can I have more detailed instructions, please?

I downloaded RenoDX for Dying Light The Beast - Neutral Version, it is displayed in Reshade, that is, there is a check mark, but there is no RenoDx menu itself. Why ?

[solid sorrel]

Addon no longer has menu sliders

its all done using in-game HDR sliders

why? because thats the only way to get the addon to work with RT

Wait what

If you have SDR only display then just use SDR, this addon is pointless?

[true smelt]

maybe it could help with banding but you'd still need a 10-bit display

but idk enough about that

i feel like this mod is being held together by thoughts and prayers as is

[gloomy wraith]

I have Sony 40"W905a , he has very good matrix and in Nvidia control panel i set 12 bit depth color

[gloomy wraith]

I figured the addon would help me with a little banding, even though it doesn't seem to be much. It's just that if you take an example from the addon for Silskong, it transforms the picture, not much, but it definitely works better with it. I wish there were similar settings for Dying Light The Beast 🙂

[solid sorrel]

There's a separate 16bit resource upgrade pak

On the nexus page

You can try that since it helps to solve the atrocious banding

[maiden tide]

Most of that is only in hdr branches

I can upgrade sdr stuff but they also use srgb resource views in sdr so those would break

[solid sorrel]

Rip

SDR truly is pain and suffering

[gloomy wraith]

Oh , cool , i cheked this info , interesting to try . Thanks for info 🙂

[gloomy wraith]

By the way, I tested your mod EXPERIMENTAL Restored SDR Exposure
along with this RenoDX for Dying Light The Beast - Neutral Version.

I’m not sure which one did the trick, but when I added the Restored SDR Exposure to the proper folder, the main menu displayed a message saying the game had been modified, and so on. Overall, I liked the visual result— the light haze was gone. So, this thing actually worked for me! It’s great that at least this experimental mod seems to be functioning 🙂 Am I right in thinking that the experimental mod doesn’t impact ray tracing?

What if I use these two mods together? I mean : Restored SDR Exposure + EXPERIMENTAL Render Target Upgrades.
Will that work? Do they clash with each other? Or is Bt 2020 more about the color range for HDR?"

[maiden tide]

the restored sdr exposure is supposed to make hdr look more like sdr

shouldn't affect anything in sdr

the render target upgrades reduce banding but has a much more limited affect in sdr since some of the stuff I edited is specific to hdr

they don't conflict with each other

they modify different files

[gloomy wraith]

Hello, could you please send me the link to this mod on Nexus if you have the chance? I wasn’t able to find it.

[solid sorrel]

It's on the Reno page for Beast

[gloomy wraith]

Here ?
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/releases

Or you mean EXPERIMENTAL Render Target Upgrades on nexus page ?

[solid sorrel]

Experimental render target on nexus

[maiden tide]

here's the list:
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/wiki/Mods

[gloomy wraith]

The game is not in the list on this link, but the link I shared provides more details and includes the game.
https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/releases
In the past, the author had a "Releases" section on GitHub, but later removed it. However, if you knew about its existence before, you could still see the details — in other words, get more information.

[maiden tide]

Oof forgot to add it to the list

Once ShortFuse finishes the website it should be easier

Cause he added a json file for every mod so it should be more automatic

[quasi apex]

reno website incoming?

[maiden tide]

ya

[true smelt]

The Starchild quest is so good

https://tenor.com/view/cry-crying-im-gonna-cry-alright-gif-15984611

[humble vale]

neutral version worsk with rt?

[maiden tide]

Ya both version work with RT since they have no sliders. Legacy version has sliders but doesn’t work with RT

Make sure to get the pak files too

Neutral + both paks will give you the best results

I’m gonna make neutral the only version and move the paks from optional to main

[maiden tide]

Took a look at the vanilla hdr for the first time in a while. Forgot how offensively bad it is. Almost tempted to change my pick for worst of the year from Silent Hill F to this.

Vanilla HDR Defaults / Vanilla HDR Brightness 0.5 / RenoDX Game Brightness 200

[humble vale]

Look, I know brightness. I have the best brightness. I’ve had the best brightness for years, everybody knows it. And let me tell you, I’m looking at these screens, and these are very expensive screens, very high-end, and I see the big beautiful brightness, and it is spectacular.

People come to me - and these are big, strong engineers, tough guys, they’ve never cried a day in their lives - and they have tears streaming down their faces. They say, 'Mr. President, the highlights, they’re so bright we can’t see the clouds anymore.' And I say, good! Who needs the clouds? We don’t want the clouds. We want the light!

The fake HDR Den media, and they are so dishonest, truly some of the most dishonest people you’ll ever meet, they talk about 'clipping.' They say, 'Oh, the detail is gone, it’s just a big white blob.' No. It’s a victory. It’s the light winning over the dark. It’s a total win.

You look at the sun on that screen and you can’t even see your own living room anymore, that’s how much winning is happening on that panel. It’s a perfect implementation. A perfect tone map. Probably the greatest tone map ever drawn, maybe even better than the maps they use at the border.

[topaz minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxA5oxuXypI

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-djt-many-people-gif-10409573331236019654

[true smelt]

I hate this channel so much

[true smelt]

Especially how he pretended to care for a while when he was in this or the hdr den server but still spews this clickbait nonsense because telling the objective, measured truth apparently doesn’t pay the bills anymore

[polar flume]

Hes still in here

[true smelt]

[polar flume]

and telling the truth always gets less clicks than controversial/clickbait stuff

just how it be

[true smelt]

Media in a nutshell

Honestly hats off to people with enough integrity to tell the truth and not engagement optimized bullshit

[polar flume]

Is it really the medias fault if the people want to watch that/hear that/read that shit

[true smelt]

Noo not saying that. But if you run your own channel and are basically your own boss

[polar flume]

That’s true yeah

[true smelt]

I feel like I couldn’t do that. I don’t wanna tell bullshit all the time

[polar flume]

Was talking more generally rn

Yeah same

[true smelt]

Yeah I know. TikTok and all that algo crap only exists because people demand it. They’re just capitalising off it.

[polar flume]

Yep

[humble vale]

it's the fault of both, but it's easier to have more people posting good information rather than changing the minds of swathes of people

[turbid cliff]

How much Chromatic Aberration do you want? Yes.

[maiden tide]

unfortunately i think this is genuinely his opinion on the visuals

I think in the video he mentions not actually even checking sdr

like he was just so blown away by how beautiful the clipping and hue shifting was

and decided it was one of the best of the year

[polar flume]

Hmm I suppose then he just likes super bright and contrasty as long as Blackfoor is reading well

[maiden tide]

unfortunately this is the case for literally everyone with a youtube channel

[polar flume]

When Musa HDR reviews on YT?

[turbid cliff]

we dont want to lose musa to the dark side

[spice furnace]

As long as he isn’t sucking the oxygen out of my room

[rich stag]

Musa interactive

He's making a new UE5 branch that handles HDR properly and he needs 900k in funding

[inland ravine]

-# pumbo unironically has a ue5 fork for hdr lmao

[slim finch]

I don't even own this one but own 2 holding out ulimate copium that it will someday get reno. I heard Dl2 wasn't very good anyways though

[plain stump]

2 is definitely the worst one

[ionic talon]

Hey everyone, quick question, does the Reno update for The Beast disable multiplayer for anyone or is it just me?

[ionic talon]

Nevermind, encountered the fix on Nexus Mods, cheers!

[torn cedar]

What dlss preset is better for this game? M or L

[tough wedge]

reno working for this game yet?

[sharp schooner]

yes
(including the "RenoDX for DLTB - old deep fried version")
https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/395

[tough wedge]

ty

[solid sorrel]

fuk me

I can now explain what the issue is with distant trees

Not occluded in shadow

or lacking screenspaced shadows

but whats strange is the other distant tree have shadowing, its just the ones near the mountain where the sun is dont recieve shadowing

[gloomy wraith]

So Reno mod unreal spoils the shading of trees in Days Gone?

[maiden tide]

no that's unrelated

forge has been complaining about how bad the distant lods look since this game launched

now he realizes its due to the lack of shadowing

[tropic zenith]

💀 I just started this game yesterday. The lighting of the sun in this video is like RTX HDR with blown out whites looking yellow. The calibration menu scene of the afternoon sun

For the HDR Min. Luminance I set it to 0.5 as the recommended to be 200. Is there a more accurate number to get get it close to 203 like the default sliders in reno.

[tropic zenith]

I tried this one but it seems like the night or any dark area is really hard to see. The lighting felt like DL2 when you had Gritty colorspace on. The night was so hard to see. Do you have any other recommendations of mods out there that would remove the nasty green/yellow tint. I tried the Disable Global Illumination Desaturation mod but with RTGI it felt exactly the same. I am not sure if the mod was meant for prior GI before RT.

[inland ravine]

the green / yellow tint is apart of the vibe

[heavy bear]

@maiden tide Do we have to have the Restored SDR Exposure mod in order to use the RenoDX mod for this title?

[maiden tide]

Ya

[tropic zenith]

I just saw an update is coming March 26. I wonder if Reno will break with it 💀seems unlikely but maybe some performance hidden changes will be implemented too. https://gamerant.com/dying-light-the-beast-free-update-restored-land/

[maiden tide]

there's a good chance any major updates will break the game

I'm also editing stuff in the paks

[tropic zenith]

Usually how it goes. I guess we will find out soon.

[sharp schooner]

any news ?

[maiden tide]

update isn't out yet

[sharp schooner]

oops .. was in the office and saw some youtube videos with streams already .. so I thought it's already out

just checked out the changelog .. "Fixed the issue with heavy performance drops happening when looking at an area with dense foliage"

[heavy bear]

Did a “clean install” for the new NVIDA driver yesterday through NVIDIA app and it broke reshade on this game. Updating and reinstalling reshade didn’t work so I uninstalled the game, cleared all the files out, did a fresh driver install with DDU, reinstalled the game and it’s good. I’m a bit new to Reshade and RenoDX, is this a common issue with new NVIDIA drivers?

[wild stratus]

the update is out , hope it wont break the game

[maiden tide]

probably will break the game

if it isn't outright broken at first glance it will probably break it in ways that aren't immediately noticeable

[wild stratus]

i am afraid of that too, i haven't tried the updated version yet to be honest

[candid siren]

I tried it, at least no crashing, and the sliders in the HDR calibration menu still function like described in the RenoDX description

[maiden tide]

That would mean the one tonemap shader hasn’t changed at least

[heavy bear]

@maiden tide do you know if RenoDX and paks still working as intended? You wrote earlier that you were editing the paks?

[sharp schooner]

I played an hour yesterday with the "old deep fried" RenoDX version and "RT and Shader Tweaks" - everything working perfectly fine.

[maiden tide]

probably not, gonna update it in a bit

[heavy bear]

@maiden tide nice! Your work in particular has been a game changer since I discovered it a little while ago. Thank you!! 🙏

[maiden tide]

updated

[true smelt]

not renodx related but is the update just a new difficulty or what?

i didnt quite understand from the video they posted

[desert charm]

Yes, new difficulty, new game mechanics, all of it is optional

[desert charm]

@maiden tide Is this compatible with the DL mod manager that compresses .pak files?

[maiden tide]

No idea

[desert charm]

Let's find out! 😄

@maiden tide Also thank you kindly 🙏

As a looting game, one of the biggest pet peeve of mine is how much time you waste opening empty containers lol.

1 mod I always install is no more empty containers. It just removes the interaction with anything that's empty

it doesn't ADD things in them, it just removes empty containers.

[tropic zenith]

works again, thanks.

Now I need to figure out which options I am going to have to turn down... The game is constantly using 9.8GB/10GB VRAM since the new 1.6 update. I might have to turn off ray tracing

[tropic zenith]

RT Shader tweaks works still. The Alt version never worked for me prior to this update. I just used the main one.

[candid siren]

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/729

This mod also improves ray tracing.

A "boiling" noisy effect is quite noticeable in some instances when I use DLSS Performance, and becomes a little less noticeable if I switch to balanced. However, with this mod, the boiling effect is now even less noticeable in performance as it was in balanced for me before.

The delay in changes in lighting when you switch on or off your flashlight is also greatly reduced with this mod.

[quasi apex]

has it been confirmed if update broke this?

oh it fucking

god updated already

ignore me :)

[quasi apex]

@maiden tide all of your code for this is in your main repo, right?

[maiden tide]

Ya

[quasi apex]

sick

I'm finally gonna play this game lmao

[maiden tide]

make sure you get the paks

[heavy bear]

Anyone know preferred HDR min. luminance slider setting for this mod on an LG G5 PC gaming? I’m using optimal settings FMM professional sliders at 100 in TV

[candid siren]

Probably follow the instructions that the mod gives

[maiden tide]

preference/viewing environment

I play in a dark room and set it to the lowest setting

but most people probably won't like that

[heavy bear]

Ty! Anything below .5 seems to be dim

[maiden tide]

0.5 maps to 200 nits which is a good value for most people

[haughty yew]

is reshade addon for hdr mod safe for coop in dying light the beast?

[valid sigil]

yes

[haughty yew]

I did tried, but seems another players need use same mod due I get error join mismatch game data/mods something like that.

[maiden tide]

Oof

Was hoping the mod only affecting visuals wouldn’t matter

[lunar bobcat]

hello, where can i find the redodx for The Beast Reloded Lands?

Actual i have 1 from Nexus Modm but it didnt show the extra tap and think its broken.

Any one can help or have a idee?

Things i do: Rename the Reshade dlls for compatiblity. Try older Versions with and without shaders and co. Nothing help

[true smelt]

dont install renodx with mod manager. jsut grab the correct addon file and put it next to the game exe and the reshade installation. consider using the target upgrades optional file but like musa said it can break easily in the future with updates

if you don't know much about addons and such maybe try https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1474481327691665553

[true smelt]

also Restored SDR Exposure like the mod page says

[robust lark]

Guys I enabled HDR zoom game yet I don’t see the sliders please help!

@maiden tide

[desert silo]

[candid siren]

It has no sliders. Read the pinned post in this thread, it also includes instructions for how to set the in game sliders

[maiden tide]

mod has no sliders

the min luminance slider is the new brightness slider

its explained on the nexus

[maiden tide]

updated

[candid siren]

Only RenoDX Render Target Upgrades was upgraded, right? The other files still show uploaded on march 27th