Dying Light: The Beast

[fossil aurora]

but for using pc is too big

[dusty stream]

The point is you have to be far

[fossil aurora]

ye

[dusty stream]

And I can't be far for the LC bckz the keyboards

And I'm sure if I use the tv near will burn my eyes

[fossil aurora]

my couch is like 1.5m from my monitor

[dusty stream]

Keep in mind that I wear glasses

So idk I'm not sure about getting a tv as main monitor even if is oled

The one of LG OLED monitor I was able to see one for 600

[fossil aurora]

I would not on your place

[dusty stream]

But not do good brightness

[fossil aurora]

well mine isn't bright

[dusty stream]

I like the Asus one bit damn 1000us

[fossil aurora]

I'm using 1st gen LG OLED

[dusty stream]

Must be my monitor model

[fossil aurora]

its peak brightness is around 700nits

[dusty stream]

But oled

[fossil aurora]

but still looks good

[dusty stream]

I have the one of LG which is ips hdr

400 nitw I think

[fossil aurora]

https://www.lg.com/pl/monitory/ultragear-gaming/27gr95qe-b/

[fossil aurora]

mine second monitor is IPS

[dusty stream]

Monitor LG 27GS75Q-B 27" QHD IPS 200hz

[fossil aurora]

also LG 27" but 1080p

[dusty stream]

That my monitor

Probably you have the next one With oled

[fossil aurora]

https://www.lg.com/pl/monitory/ultragear-gaming/27gl650f-b/

my second

[dusty stream]

And your main ?

Which model ?

[fossil aurora]

I posted above

[dusty stream]

Yup

Is the one that cost 600uw

[fossil aurora]

that's first gen OLED

[dusty stream]

The same as o have or mu shoppijf cart list

[fossil aurora]

u can't get it now

now u can get 2nd or even 3rd gen

it's brighter

first gen wasn't bright, but still looking good

[dusty stream]

https://www.amazon.es/LG-27GS95QE-B-AEU-Ultragear-2560x1440-Tecnología/dp/B0CVNY7JKL/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_maf_1?crid=1VEUPIZG0V22L&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.hMK95NGUNDZExfumWuQWmJunbNYG5_6STuU-deg78yS2mJf-nfFv_dGg1in2xKrfF1Ua6gg7ZWVXbe-dX-8el0k1DBQmRzy2N9gktOPqScYK0V0gImPMoZ83xsa9EC0bustKInZZPv0Sio1Y7W-lSOKEeTE-qz8G9Si9MWrhss0KF28-GDTDPOvyUhpdIrn5LCVVGo9UZ4bt7bSisP9pzw.UYOIkFMapVMMjDyJk9NaKFIixsAysxp17nIZnLWA8lE&dib_tag=se&keywords=lg+monitor+oled+27&qid=1759687969&sprefix=lg+monitor+oled%2Caps%2C304&sr=8-1

Are you sure ?

Hahaha

[fossil aurora]

check name

u post Gs i posted gr

this is 2nd gen

[dusty stream]

Do you have theink for the 3er gen ?

[fossil aurora]

not sure if exist

[dusty stream]

O.o

[fossil aurora]

cuz mine is almost 2y old

this is 1y old

I bought mine right before this was introduced

[dusty stream]

:/

https://www.amazon.es/ASUS-Swift-OLED-PG27UCDM-DisplayWidget/dp/B0DT4S32PY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3ASGCUC5YJ9MJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.wirK34hYKMzCR9dPZoQPD7Hqjj5DKuA8pWfnkcY_Iay2yVGKHiRB4cGiRVoWl55_-x1nXz3IMzEF9WzXUu-S8tbP5785cpzITcQ2TJfuT1kogH1O6C_03iXb7qBSlX3nEio-Sqrx5qgRYAILUpudOryP1JW9zY0RklMa91gZ5LotEChxQAXn5G2vk09IZqiu1_KUqHrjNWN0Ct9S34gAJw.ehXtRukaA-b4iU_RC1a0BRnoC-1K3IIKtGBW8uji0vI&dib_tag=se&keywords=asus+monitor+oled+27&qid=1759688174&sprefix=asus+monitor+oled%2Caps%2C336&sr=8-3

That's the one I wanna get wgej I finish paying my 5090

[fossil aurora]

I heard qd oleds look bit better in HDR but black gets crushed a lot of even a little light u put on it

I mean cuz ow white subpixel lg oleds cannot get as bright as those made on Samsung panel

also mine is mat finish so I don't see my face in it, in glossy u would

[dusty stream]

I heard that also

By glossy is brighter

But gets scratches Easy

I was looking a Review about not getting quantum dot oled

But idk

[fossil aurora]

Brightness isn't about mat or glossy

[dusty stream]

Abs I'm aware about the pinkish color

[fossil aurora]

It's about subpixel

[dusty stream]

What monitor you recommend?

If you have to tecommended me one ?

[fossil aurora]

Lg has 1 additional subpixel which is white. That's why it's called WOLED

[fossil aurora]

Tbh

No matter what u will gett, u will be happy

[dusty stream]

-_-

Just help the guy

[fossil aurora]

It's true

Even the cheapest one that u will get is enough

[dusty stream]

-_-

[fossil aurora]

There are only 2 manufacturers who make panels: LG and Samsung.

All monitors use one of those 2 panels

So all should be similar. Ofc there is difference between generation, but still

Lg monitors have pilot 😄

[dusty stream]

I was aware of that

I was looking at guy who said the same thing

What is the smegma

Near the tv control remote?

O.o

Hahaha just joking

I swear

I never looked so much fkr. Monitor

Idk why with oled ls do much complicates

4k for me is insane

Not even a 5090

Can push a game at 144fps

At 4k

But I am aware that at 4k things looks better

For me 2k ka fine but idk the price is almost the same and those assholes puts Goodies on the 4k models

Is insane -_-

So many reviews o watched that my brain will explode

[fossil aurora]

like I've said. for OLED no matter what u pick u will be happy

like really

QD OLED is brighter in HDR but it's only for some colours that rarely are present

Depends what u want. I'd buy cheapest tbh right now

[polar flume]

meanwhile G5 in Filmmaker with flawless latency

[hexed pasture]

[polar flume]

[gusty flame]

Man, I swear I'm trapped with the C Series and I can't get out my set up. I feel 42 is the sweet spot and there is nothing around better than the C Series. Then I thinking, ok maybe for a 32 Tandem Oled Monitor I can try to downgrade the screen size...But as of now no 32 inches Tandem Oled. And who knows coming from 42 if I would be even able to get used to 32 😭

[polar flume]

for me something between 48 and 55 is best for general HDR gaming, i do use ultrawide tho so its not as tall

[gusty flame]

48 is really too big on the desk, I've tried with the C2 and I was tilting my head to reach Windows folders

[polar flume]

yeah in 16:9 i wouldnt do that

tho there is insane mfs like dio who do that

kek

[gusty flame]

Also the C/G5 doesn't support DTS audio, which is mind boggling

[polar flume]

i couldnt care less xd

i use headphones 99% of the time

[gusty flame]

Yes but your old movies/Blue Ray, how you manage?

[polar flume]

i dont really watch movies

dont have a single bluray

kek

That’s how I use the G5

Peak

[gusty flame]

Is it 48?

[polar flume]

55

[gusty flame]

How deep is your desk?

[polar flume]

95cm

i have the desk slightly pulled away from the wall

[gusty flame]

Mine is 67

[polar flume]

that way i can push the base of the tv a bit further back

so its effectively more like 100cm

[gusty flame]

That's me, I'm blocked on the back by a wall

[polar flume]

good speaker choice sir

i wanted to get those too or the LS50 wireless II

but im gonna be moving like end of the year into some flat soo i cant really use speakers properly

[gusty flame]

KEF makes amazing Bookshelves speakers. The best in terms of size/performance

[gusty flame]

Did they fix HDR issues on the G5?

[polar flume]

not even sure if HDR10 ever had any issues

only aware of dolby vision beeing cooked on release

[gusty flame]

https://youtu.be/m0cc1rklZqc?si=UWLUynfqysdoapif

[wicked marsh]

Reviews nv. show/says this thou ^^

[dusty stream]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh such a nice lightinghing which leds are you using_

[dusty stream]

very battlefield themed i like that also

i feel poor for the way my wall is 🙁 im sorry

[gusty flame]

Nanoleaf Canvas

[dusty stream]

link ?

oh i found it

no but i mean the leds on the wall not the ones hunging from the walls

the ones from the bottom i mean xD

[polar flume]

the guy who made that video posted this later on so i guess was improved

[dusty stream]

wtf is the lg g5

let me take a look

[gusty flame]

It's a mix of Hue Play light and Stripe from the Desk itself

[polar flume]

why battlefiled themed xd

[dusty stream]

poggspin

hahaahhaaha

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

6k?????????????

dude wtf did you bought? does that tv gives you a blowjob or somehting?

O_O

[dusty stream]

the orange color, is like touching my g gaming spot

[gusty flame]

I think guys we are just chatting off topic on Dying Light, we should move somewhere else 😬

[polar flume]

ah hehe

[dusty stream]

is not the first time we talk about monitors and tv, im sure that short wont mind

is kinda related to the image xD

i will stop looking at monitors and tvs

because my head will explode

i been like 1 month watching

¬¬

enough

[dusty stream]

Closer hope someone knows who he is, he was the best 🙁

[polar flume]

that aint no oled

[dusty stream]

dont you start -_-

it has less than 1 year and half of use

i bought it new ¬¬

i was with the pg278q from asus

tn panel non hdr xD

[polar flume]

[dusty stream]

was a big improvement going to an ips with hdr

even when is not the best the image quality did improved alot

upgrading my whole setup wasnt easy -_-

is all brand new, the mouse, the keyboard, the audio, the monitor, the camera, the mic, my whole case, my psu

all is new

but the 5090 killed me

[polar flume]

shoulda bought an oled instead of 5090 :P

[dusty stream]

no way

i was with a 3080 ti

and i was tired of messing with settings and all of em looking like shit

here in argentina dealing with the inflation

and prices changing whole the fucking time

is insane

[polar flume]

oof

[dusty stream]

believe it or not i paid cheaper than what is actually costing right now here

[polar flume]

isnt a 5090 like ultra expensive then compared to income in your country

[dusty stream]

i almost max my credit card

[dusty stream]

it cost 5k usd

in you put that to pesos is like 5.000.000$

1 usd = 1000 pesos

[polar flume]

google says like 500-700 USD is like an average monthly salary in Argentina, is that accurate?

[dusty stream]

plus the interest of doing the price in 6

¬¬

so is like 5.5k xD

[dusty stream]

depends..

some have a salary of 1000

[polar flume]

thats still crazy tho

[dusty stream]

idk it depends is not something that you can take it as just the way it is

[polar flume]

bros paying over half a year of their salary for 5090

[dusty stream]

and believei t or not with milei

[polar flume]

[dusty stream]

just reclently i am to able to buy things from amazon

and buy us dollar from a bank

before wasnt possible

but i have to wait until next year becasue i only have 5 shippings free of taxes

otherwise you have to put 21% of whatever of taxes

so every time im excceding that

i have to bother my friends and some of em are like "nahh"

and i am oh fuck here we go

i will in debt for 6 months again

[polar flume]

i mean ofc i cant tell you what to do, but going into debt just for gaming is a bit yikes

[dusty stream]

before i haved to buy dolalrs in a cave

or a black market

[polar flume]

lmao

[dusty stream]

and is expensive in there like 1 usd = 1600

xDDDDD

[dusty stream]

pf is not just for gaming

i work with ai and plus of that i do eevetything with my pc

so idk for me is like an investement

[polar flume]

i see

[dusty stream]

keep in mind

that i ahve 39 years old

im not just a kid let say borrowing his father credit card

xD

do maths
9950x3d
x870e
5090
64 gb of ram ddr5
the evga 1300w psu
the case
4 audios system
the keyboard
the monitor
the mouse

bla bla bla

is lots of money when you think about it

but im hoping to last longer (?)

[feral wedge]

Guys,any working mode for this game ?

For hdr

[desert charm]

Oh, the pinned comment is gone

The RenoDX mod used to be pinned to this channel but now is gone. Should the Nexusmod page not be a pinned comment at least?

[feral wedge]

Can you give me link to nexus ?

[gleaming hollow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/395

[desert charm]

We should at least get the nexus mod page pinned to this channel

[maiden tide]

its in the main post, I'll just pin that

[desert charm]

Thank you Musa 🙂

[desert charm]

New Dying Light: The Beast Update and Community Event!

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3008130/view/658213406635982989

[gusty flame]

Still no update for RT, I'm still waiting to play it

[desert charm]

We all are 🙂

[fossil aurora]

if u cant play game just bcoz it doesnt have Rt, then its something wrong with u

[maiden tide]

dying light games are pretty mediocre gameplay wise imo

a lot of the appeal is the shiny rt features

[fossil aurora]

1 didnt have Rt

second one had but it was decent

well, like ive said before in 90% of the games RT doesnt give much and its just a gimmic

[maiden tide]

I liked 1 though and I thought 2 was ass

like there's probably some fun to be had still

but I'd be surprised if the game is anything more than mediocre

[fossil aurora]

see and i liked second for me 1st was shit

[gusty flame]

I just don't wanna be the beta tester of an unfinished game man! I will play it when it will get all the promised features

[fossil aurora]

it isi finished

it just odnt have RT

[gusty flame]

Man, if I didn't care about image quality or features I wouldn't be hanging out in this server. It is a fun game, not RDR2, The Witcher or whatever that I'm missing out so bad. So, I will just play it when all the features promised (AND SILENTLY REMOVED UPON LAUNCH) will be available

[plain stump]

Played through the beast, I think it manages to be at least as good as 1.

2 sucked

Like it’s mid I guess, just no reason for it to exist as a sequel to 1

[gusty flame]

How long did it take you to beat it?

[plain stump]

Around 24 hours I think

[gusty flame]

Did they fix the zombie grab? It annoys me badly

[plain stump]

Like when zombies stumble toward you and grab you?

[gusty flame]

Yes, it happens from way too far and it's the first thing they do too

[plain stump]

Yeah it’s still a thing and it is in fact annoying lol

I use the accessibility option that lets me hold the button instead of mash lol

Hate when games regularly ask me to mash a button

[gusty flame]

Yes, but I saw I post from Techland and this will be addressed next patch

[rich stag]

They already made it so that you don’t get damaged when they grab on you

And in higher level you learn instant escape so it becomes a skill issue

And you can counter grab in early game with blocking or attacking when they are about to grab on

[gusty flame]

That's great, the game must feel much more in flow now! I'm holding up until the RT update though

[solid sorrel]

Le RT

[gusty flame]

Of course it could very well be the 11th week itself!

[gusty flame]

[solid sorrel]

"On further inspection, we've located an additional breakage in our RT implementation... As such we are postponing it into early 2026

Merry Christmas"

[gusty flame]

BBC news: "Tragedy in Poland. A guy attacked the headquarter of Techland bracing a shovel and parkour-ing himself into the art direction office..."

• Some would say it was not a Merry Christmas -

[polar flume]

Atleast it’s confirmed to come somewhat soon

[rancid agate]

But what about the DL2 update that backports stuff from The Beast?!

[inland ravine]

the roadmap is for the beast specifically
though idk if it was actually confirmed if they were back porting stuff to dl2 or if that was just speculation

[rancid agate]

I’m pretty sure they mentioned it exactly once, many months ago, but haven’t brought it up since. Instead we get dozens of updates that are only about cosmetics…

[inland ravine]

🤷‍♂️
that kind of thing isn't easy so I get it tbh

[gusty flame]

IMO Dying Light 2 will get nothing. It seems to me they want to pretend it never happened 🤣

[inland ravine]

if we weren't talking about techland I would agree

[solemn flint]

when does the game actually come out?

[inland ravine]

2030

maybe

depends if techland decideds to do a retouched update for the beast like 10 years from now

[desert charm]

At least they keep supporting DL 2's community events, they just posted another recently

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/534380/view/654835706915455363

[desert charm]

Dying Light 3 also having community events right now

https://pilgrimoutpost.techlandgg.com/goodies/twitch-drops

https://pilgrimoutpost.techlandgg.com/goodies/deluxe-edition

[stray hedge]

64 isnt 0 nit

its 0.0005nits0.0015nits

[maiden tide]

Ok I thought it was ever so slightly visible but I decided to leave it as is instead of touching the shadows setting on my monitor

[lapis lintel]

Is the nexus hdr fix version the latest??

[maiden tide]

ya i hadn't made any changes since then

[stray hedge]

just found i typed the wrong number, its 0.0015nits

#1190011429953212426 message

use this instead

[polar flume]

Yeah that vid is great

[stray hedge]

leave it clipped at 68-70

we dont have displays can process that range

[tiny roost]

Hey gang
Had some questions in setting up RenoDX with Dying Light: The Beast and wasn't sure where to start. I'm new to both RenoDX and HDR (just got an OLED after having a 7 year old IPS)

Is there a thread of any kind I should read before I ask potentially silly questions? (I followed the nexus page instructions; they were pretty straightforward)

[maiden tide]

don't have a thread for FAQ

we should add one

[tiny roost]

All good, you did address the question I had. I just missed it on the first read of the Nexus mods page. Thanks for doing all this btw 🙏

[glass crypt]

hi, anyone else have problems with renodx and xefg/ fsr fg?

[slim finch]

This is not true, you have to pick pretty old RT games where the benefit is not extremely noticeable like Resident evil 8 for example. The non RT reflections are a huge downgrade

Jedi Survivor another one where it's probably not worth it.

I feel like anti RT people just don't have the hardware for it and cope about the performance hit

[solid sorrel]

[gleaming hollow]

[hexed pasture]

lmao

[solid sorrel]

babes

RT dropped

Musa, whats stopping SDR path for this game?

Considering that discussion with shortfuse

where their HDR looks way different from SDR and them quantising everything a trillion times over creating banding

[sonic vault]

can finally play lol

[solid sorrel]

Depends...

Now we wait for Miru to fix

[restive garden]

My RT is completely broken , is it because of reno? Enabling it just remove all shadows lol

[solid sorrel]

Broken how?

Hmm

Let's test

[restive garden]

With RT enabled i gained 100fps lol

Im trying to do a fresh install

[sonic vault]

remove the hdr add on. mine was like that too

wait for the fix

[solid sorrel]

RT on / off

[sonic vault]

oooof lol

[restive garden]

Can confirm removing RenoDX fixed it

Shadows are back and RT is on

( Removed all reshade files + addon + integrity repair )

RT doesn't touch water reflections 🙁 still screenspace

[solid sorrel]

Practical joke

What if we added RT

But still had the largest bodies of water not use RT

[restive garden]

For real lol , the screenspace toggle even stay enabled

[solid sorrel]

Raster / RT /s

uremytoy was right

RT is slop /s

raster / RT

surprise surprise

their dodo 2d billboard grass still doesnt cast shadows or have ao

just as it was in the Nvidia showcase

[restive garden]

I was so hyped but damn what a low effort implementation

It was better in DL2

[solid sorrel]

we have GI

and the edges of shadows dont have the wierd sizzle

holy shit is native HDR ass

[inland ravine]

pumbo will fix the game in 10 years trust

[polar flume]

?????????????

[solid sorrel]

Musa's slop was breaking the game

[polar flume]

ah

[solid sorrel]

I am applying some code Miru shared to improve RT

[polar flume]

smh why didnt Musa already fix it pre launch

shouldve predicted the shaders

[solid sorrel]

if this was ubishit, he would have

[polar flume]

are you though

[polar flume]

because this looks poopoo

[solid sorrel]

Special sauce optimsation

Lets cap RT to 2 metres

then again their default LOD multiplier is utter ass

everything beyond 10 metres uses the worst possible billboards

and the lowest possible LODs imaginable

[maiden tide]

All post processing is different

Honestly I don’t wanna mod this game

Or even play it

They ruined it by making us wait this long

[solid sorrel]

Agreed

RT is mid here

unless we wait for Miru to cook

[maiden tide]

Don’t really see a point in having a mod cause hdr is so cooked that I put that shit ass hdr look button in anyway

And people just complain cause they want cooked

And I can’t make it look like sdr

[solid sorrel]

he give up

Well I run Reno with fukkin 0.3 exposure

because the game is COOOKED

can't set exposure to 0.3 via in-game settings without the game looking like utter garbage

[maiden tide]

The mod conflicting with rt is probably cause of some cbuffer shit

Probably can’t even fix that without pumbo or shortfuse’s help meaning I’d have to hijack in game cbuffers

Maybe pumbo will help

[solid sorrel]

in 2035

when they ship the last update

[maiden tide]

Ya after I said I was gonna mod it I realized they update their games all the time and I would inevitably have to redo the mod constantly

[solid sorrel]

[maiden tide]

Can’t justify spending this much time on jump slop

[solid sorrel]

WaitTM for E3 The Beast Experience

Me omw to slop out a SDR path addon

[desert charm]

Regardless, those of us who enjoy the game, can't thank you enough for all the hard work you put into modding it 🙏

[maiden tide]

I’ll do what I can

But if cbuffers are broken then I’ll have to hijack in game sliders which means only a couple sliders

[desert charm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-dance-cat-shake-dance-cat-wiggle-shake-gif-7275729331624892207

Here's a little dancing kitty to encourage you 🙂

[slim finch]

Im still coping that dying loght 2 will ever be renoed

[cerulean python]

dying light 2 was kind of shit tier in my eyes does anyone know if the beast is actually better? i loved dl1

but dl2 was genuinely not it imo

[inland ravine]

the beast was muuuch better imo

[turbid cliff]

im incredibly impressed with the games texture work

in some ways its one of the best looking (and optimized!!!) games this year

rt on vs off

[plain stump]

Game was quite fun

[solid sorrel]

Wait for RT only to be disappointed + having reno break was even more fun

[true smelt]

rt looks bugged af? feels like it just removes all shadows

like i'm standing under a bridge during sunrise and everything is brightly illuminated with the sun still behind the buildings?

[solid sorrel]

RT is broke with current Reno

Needs an update

[true smelt]

reno breaks rt? what a weird interaction

[turbid cliff]

because reno hasnt had an update

its a bad interaction now

[true smelt]

oh wow yeah i just tried it without reno

[open obsidian]

is someone updating reno for update?

[slender mural]

would love to play the game with rt and reno, is there a fixed version or will there be?

[maiden tide]

Looking into it this week

[sonic vault]

I can def wait a little longer to play then lol

[ancient hound]

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/615

but I find the interiors lighting change not pleasant, wish it was optional

also so many lights not casting shadows 🙁 too bad reshade REST crashes the game

[inland ravine]

damn miru used renodx lol

[ancient hound]

maybe Musa can collaborate with him

[inland ravine]

probably would be ideal

[polar flume]

yeah i saw that too xd

i was like whuut

[inland ravine]

I mean if reno is good enough to add hdr it's good enough to do a shitton more things

[inland ravine]

what would you want REST for?
if you really want to you can build a RenoDX addon that can place shaders before the ui like REST can

[solid sorrel]

We already add

• RCAS
• Adjust post processing shaders like bloom or grading
• I've messed around with adjusting UI scaling / turning element on and off
• Added alternative lighting to world map
• I've messed around with Direct Lighting shader for Stalker Gamma

It just werks

Can find rim lighting shader for games and disable that

So yh, Reno is way ahead of just HDR

[ancient hound]

i want to add AO, because a lot of lights in the game dont cast shadows, and at least a bit of AO would compensate (especially in interior, like lamp desks and stuff

i've done some UE or LUA modding, but not at all familiar with developing a reshade addon (and game dev and shaders dev seems very steep to learn)

also it would need to be before UI, but also effects like FOG

if you have some tutorial video or something, I wouldn't say no

[solid sorrel]

So I was wondering if we could add RT to large bodies of water instead of the SSR shenanigans we have right now

Miru going to be in the RTgulag for a billion years

[solid sorrel]

No shadow casting is just typical raster ahh goofyiness to save on perf. RT 'should' be handling it but its so subpar atm in TB that its nearly pointless

DL2 has RTAO which is missing in TB? RTGI should in theory replace the need of AO but again, everything is kinda of subpar so a bunch of material recieve iffy occlusion

For AO via reshade you'll have to either port xeGTAO to reshade first or modify an existing shader like MXAO to work with HDR (it is easy) but..... modified shaders you wont be able to share

that'll be for your personal use only

unless you port over xeGTAO (has MIT loicense)

After that, Shortfuse and Pmnox had a discussion about using Reno to replicate REST functionality over on https://discord.com/channels/1408098019194310818/1410855640112566375/threads/1421110516914327643/1421110516914327643

I managed to hack something together with a modified MXAO to work with HDR

but its borky so I havent shared it yet (the REST in Reno process part)

[ancient hound]

i'd gladly sacrificy HDR for less floating in the air objects 😛

https://github.com/rj200/Glamarye_Fast_Effects_for_ReShade

this used to work pretty well with HDR

but since some recent Reshade versions, if feels messed

[solid sorrel]

Playing in SDR

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-i-will-not-interact-gif-9380134741995340701

[solid sorrel]

still works

and yes it supports both scRGB and HDR10

[ancient hound]

u KaN usE nvIdiA Rtx Hdr brO

[solid sorrel]

MXAO just looks nicer

[ancient hound]

hmm in DLBT, Glamayre looks white AO, like its rendering is bugged

[solid sorrel]

🤷‍♂️

Theres a bunch of settings

shader probably set to something it shouldnt be doing

[ancient hound]

anyway, would still need a way to have it apply before UI / fog etc.

ShaderToggler works on all games to detect and hide shaders, but REST crashes in a lot of DX12

Wouldn't an in between, less heavy solution work? Like ShaderToggler gives us the shaders address, if we could just copy / paste them to another addon more stable that REST

[polar flume]

https://tenor.com/view/vegito-vegito-gansta-vegito-suit-drip-vegito-bait-used-to-be-believable-gif-315651423676567245

[solid sorrel]

you can already seen the shader hashes with Reno devkit

Reno can already do what REST does

its just not set up in a user friendly way, you'll have to code the functionality into the addon per title

[ancient hound]

i opened the dev kit for the first time, but then, how to identify which shader is which? (or the less friendly is so less friendly its hard to identify what is FOG or UI etc.)

[maiden tide]

unless the game has the shader name embedded you have no choice but to toggle shit until you find it

[ancient hound]

would it make sense to use ShaderToggler to get the shader address first?

[maiden tide]

well you could dump all the shaders and look for patterns or cbuffer stuff and find the shader names that way

you can open the shader view in renodx

which is just a list like shader toggler

left side its the floppy disk icon I think

[solid sorrel]

Send an email to the devs asking pretty pls as to which shader hash does what

We have to make do

part of the fun

figuring out what is going on and where

[ancient hound]

no sorry, what I meant is in REST or ShaderToggle, it is visual what shaders you select, you have visual confirmation you found the FOG or the UI, wondering if Reno Devkit is the same

[solid sorrel]

undraw the shader

in Reno

ofc some shaders will require another to functionally work so if you undraw one you might just end up with a broken screen

but I havent yet ran into that for fog / volumetric shaders

you can also go through the shader hash RTV, resource and blah blah

Luma has it a lot better in this department

[maiden tide]

ya there's a list where you can just press the draw button to toggle the shader on/off

[ancient hound]

can I convert this hash (shader toggler) to search on the devkit?

[maiden tide]

Ya just use an online decimal to hexadecimal converter

[ancient hound]

ok got some match in the dump

i guess its the moment i'd have to code something like that https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/blob/main/src/games/dyinglight2/addon.cpp

[maiden tide]

better to look at the dyinglightthebeast addon

oh i didn't merge to main repo

https://github.com/mqhaji/renodx/tree/dyinglightthebeast/src/games/dyinglightthebeast

[inland ravine]

you going to try to work with miru to get their rt fixes into your addon?

[maiden tide]

probably don't conflict

well maybe if they're using upgrades

[ancient hound]

well I've tried to read the code, but not even sure where is the part that references the 0xXXXXX shaders files and saying to render where (there has to be as I know Renodx is aware of what is UI, I also see some for Glow (bloom? flare?))

i'll just wait for Reno team to maybe do a REST working alternative 🙂 my .NET and scripting knowledge is clearly of no help here and I wont lose much of your time. If one day one Reno dev does a tutorial video from scratch (identify a shader with devkit, code the addon to render stuff behind it, etc) I might give it a try

its sad as REST works well without RT enabled, but crashes as soon as it is

[maiden tide]

renodx::mods::shader::CustomShaders custom_shaders = {__ALL_CUSTOM_SHADERS}; this tells it to use all the shaders in the folder

if you're just skipping a shader you can use bypassshaderentry

[ancient hound]

are the hlsl files generated from the cso dump? e.g. 0x00A04AE6.ps_5_0.cso

[maiden tide]

renodx::mods::shader::CustomShaders custom_shaders = {
    BypassShaderEntry(0x00000000)
};```

you don't need the cso for bypass

but ya we use 3dmigoto to decompile the cso files

[ancient hound]

what does bypass mean in here?

[maiden tide]

haven't used it but I assume its doing teh same thing as toggling draw off in the devkit

what are you doing with the shader

just skipping?

[ancient hound]

i suppose the same way Renodx can change the game scene, e.g highlights, without impacting the HUD, it might be able to render an MXAO shader behind it also

so not sure what technical term correspond to that (skipping, bypass, ...)

[maiden tide]

ah ok shortfuse has stuff for that in his oblivion addon

if you clone the repo in vscode

copilot can probaby vibe code the stuff for you

that doesn't require you to decomp any shader

You’d need to tell it when to apply the shader basically

[ancient hound]

i'll give it a try, but I guess I need to wait for an RT fix anyway (lets see if I can do anything without it first)

[ancient hound]

i've got that so far https://github.com/jrouzies-fr/renodx/pull/1/files

but copilot is asking me for a shader file 0xXXXXXX...hlsl where to apply the shader mxao.hlsl, which seems different to what is done by addons for now

0x7D1BA5D4 is the REST shader I found that would apply effects before it, but I think its just the HUD

[inland ravine]

uhh did you modify the mxao shader from marty?

[ancient hound]

no it was generated by Copilot (Claude Saunet 4)

dont ask me if the code seems correct 😄

how do I make / compile an addon64 file?

[near cloud]

AO is more held back by needing multiple passes and textures . You need to building the logic in ReShade. Not a lot sample material. ReShade own fx code language abstracts. You can build textures in fx code. But somebody would have to write the code to work with general ReShade API and then support DX/GL/VK. Ultimately will probably come down to me. Have some stuff with make custom passes. But like how Ersh essentially came up with a custom pass by copying how ReShade draws swapchain, and then I copied that for swapchain proxy pass, I'd have to see how ReShade lets you build custom compute shader passes.

From what I remember, pumbo does it all in DX11 code, which isn't really what I'm targeting

[ancient hound]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-8787407239066346399

ok well I guess I'll stop my trying there as that's above my pay grade. I liked the idea of a "custom" REST addon for each game (but not customizable by end user, like it covers all the basics fog, HUD, etc), might be more stable than the REST addon itself (not sure why it crashes, i suppose trying to do too much)

[near cloud]

REST is carried (for lack of a better term) by all the .fx logic to build textures and passes. That's basically the issue here: trying to take that same fx logic and port it to addon logic

I also don't see AO as that bad probably because I don't fully understand it? Like, bad HDR or capped SDR I see and hate it so I fix it. But I think Ambient Occlusion is taking the Phong model of (Ambient+Diffuse+Specular) and reducing the ambient part. But in my head Ambient should not exist. So it's more of a "hack on a hack". It reduces the "baked lighting" that is ambient lighting and make less of it based on the depth and geometry? I think?

[ancient hound]

basic AO just applies shadowing around 3D geometry, to try to make it more "grounded"

if devs would stop putting lights not casting shadows, that would not be too much needed 😄

[near cloud]

It shouldn't be there in the first place. I think ambient lighting is a flat global lift applied to all geometry, so "occlusion" reduces that flat global

"true" path/ray tracing wouldn't have or need AO I think, unless you want to simulate fewer passes

Something like "light wouldn't bounce back out from under the table like that it should be darker" or something, and then I see and I hate it

So games like cartoonish/cel-shaded games (Persona) have little to no ambient occlusion and everything is mostly raw Phong

[solid sorrel]

look at this slop in WH3 for instance (their default SSAO(

Their AO is terrible

flickers

Has strength at 500%

abysmal

Now compare

with what I modded

[near cloud]

Well, if ambient occlusion is what I think, it's a hack to fix baked/fixed ambient lighting

[solid sorrel]

Night and day difference

[solid sorrel]

yh

[ancient hound]

of course, if everything was well ray traced, there is no issues

[solid sorrel]

its a cheap way to ground objecys in the enviroment

[ancient hound]

if Dying Light RT implementation was covering all lights...

[near cloud]

((Ambient - occlusion) + diffuse + specular) I guess

Ambient = black lift. Thanks now I hate it

[solid sorrel]

'AO' would be handled in GI for PT

[near cloud]

An ambient light source represents an omnidirectional, fixed-intensity and fixed-color light source that affects all objects in the scene equally (is omnipresent). During rendering, all objects in the scene are brightened with the specified intensity and color. This type of light source is mainly used to provide the scene with a basic view of the different objects in it. This is the simplest type of lighting to implement, and models how light can be scattered or reflected many times, thereby producing a uniform effect.

Ambient lighting can be combined with ambient occlusion to represent how exposed each point of the scene is, affecting the amount of ambient light it can reflect.

"models how light" aka approximates

[ancient hound]

Well Miru updated his mod and now has AO in interiors, looks so much better

[slender mural]

stupid question maybe but is that Rt and shader tweaks mod also for hdr?

[ancient hound]

i use it with HDR enabled

[torn cedar]

link for that mod pls

[ancient hound]

Here

[azure kernel]

Interiors looks much better but somehow too dark. I guess they baked interior lights to simulate bounces without GI since RTGI doesn't work with lights. Also In SDR it looks brighter but why would I play with SDR. I just don't get how exposure is too aggressive in HDR.

[ancient hound]

Yeah he removed baked lighting, I asked on the discord if he could add it back as an option but no feedback yet

[polar flume]

Is that even compatible with the Renodx HDR mod ?

Since you’d have 2 renodx plugins

[azure kernel]

There is a toggle for it already. You can get it back easily.

[ancient hound]

the toggle also remove the AO improvements, from what he said in his RTGI Interior he removed the baked lighting left, would be good to have a version where it remains to avoid darkening issue

[azure kernel]

Ah, yeah that I forget that. Also I had some issues at night with lights popping off everywhere. So had to delete it

[dusty stream]

Hello everybody

I what's new on 1.4?

Is rt already implemented?

[hot rune]

Yes

[dusty stream]

How the game looks like?

I couldn't played because my Palit 5090 died and needed to be replaced by rma to a 5090 astral lc which I got few days ago

-_-

So just yesterday I end up downloading the game again -.. -

[torn cedar]

Rt implementation was disappointed + renodx currently is not working properly with rt on. Currently waiting for a fix to the last one.

[slender mural]

Does outdated Reno actually work with 1.4 if you turn off rt?

[torn cedar]

I think so yes

[dusty stream]

im getting a black screen

on version 1.4

[azure kernel]

I didn't try myself but on my friend it worked. When used with RT it had missing lighting.

[dusty stream]

was the god damn driver

¬¬

the freaking game forcing me to update

well finally the game looks like the final product

wuhuuuuuuuuuuuu

[candid siren]

Yea, definite improvement. There could be some improvements (I hope they add RTAO), but the game looks better in general. Reno does not work with 1.4 and RT, But I can get used to the quite overbearing brightness and highlights. How HDR vanilla looks is also somewhat of an aesthetic choice. Still, I preferred the more "muted" natural look of RenoDX/Musa. Would be nice to see an update, but I can imagine spending your free time making these mods is a lot less interesting if you have lost interest in the game yourself.

[rich stag]

RTAO is automatically on if you turn on RTGI, same with DL2

(In DL2 turn on RTAO actually just turns on RTGI, just without applying it)

[azure kernel]

This is good to know but why would I only enable RTAO if the cost is the same with RTGI+RTAO. I thought RTAO didn't even apply at the first place in The Beast. What does your mod do additionally to enable RTAO in interiors?

[rich stag]

In the beast, RTAO is applied for flashlight and rasterized GI. I just did some trick to apply RTAO to non sunlight lighting

[slender mural]

so whats the best way to play rn? use renodx without raytracing or use raytracing with this mod? Idk if it works correctly and if it has correct hdr because it seems to be based on renodx https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/615?tab=files

[solid sorrel]

Thats just using Reno addon to load the modified shaders. Miru isnt adjusting HDR code with the above

Musa hasnt updated the HDR addon yet

The best way to play is to not play at all

wait 2 years for final update

[azure kernel]

Somehow it gets almost blinding on my C3 and can beat my IPS brightness (600peak) at the same time. Usually when it becomes this bright it looks SDR'ish but with this game it's opposite.

[solid sorrel]

Native HDR is deepfried

abysmal

I tried testing to see how RT looked like with the update

unistalled the game after becasue HDR is straight ass

I need to run Reno exposure at 0.3 for the lighting to look 'natural'

Best would be to do SDR path addon to also fix all the banding that happens from them quantising every shader a billion times over in HDR

[inland ravine]

make that ten years lol
techland updated dl1 earlier this year

[solid sorrel]

it is what it is

maybe Pumbo will have DL2 HDR out by then

[inland ravine]

tbf I only want pumbo to take a crack at it to see what he finds lol

I honestly have no desire to play dl2 again

[solid sorrel]

I never even played it

[inland ravine]

based

[solid sorrel]

Based? Where is my DLAA for DL1?????

shimmer is horrendous

sadly I am not a SharpTM enjoyer

I need my blurTM

[azure kernel]

I could say it has it's own taste but yeah it's pretty hard on eyes most of the time. Still I much prefer fried HDR than playing with SDR. I also like to get my eyes hurt.

[inland ravine]

find me the camera matrices for the game and I'll do it :p

[solid sorrel]

**Grok... Find the camera matrices **

meh

wait 10 years

techland will implement

for the second anniversary

[inland ravine]

the motion vector look fine so that's the only limiting factor to my knowledge

-# wonder if I could create a signature for the camera matrices from the dead island pdb and then scan dying light for the signature 🤔

[solid sorrel]

How about making adding HDR to Skyrim instead

[slender mural]

is the reno mod still in the works or is it too complicated to do? If not I would just play in sdr I guess

[solid sorrel]

Musa is playing / modding ubislop now

so you're going to be waiting

[slender mural]

funny I just saw a video from gamingtech and he says the game has like the best hdr hes ever seen

[solid sorrel]

Gamingtech

He did drop in here at first

GT likes beeg contrast

Vast amount of comments on his vids were talking about how Reno looks bad compared to native

because it lacks 'punch'

meanwhile native is nuclear in how it clips

[slender mural]

yeah I dont think he cares much for accuracy I saw people here clowning on him before

[solid sorrel]

This is just to me

its SDR levels of clip but in HDR

The game has no range because its nearly a brickwall

looking back at it I dont even like the tweaked here

but Native is NUCLEAR

Tweaked here looks bearable to play

[maiden tide]

I'll get aronud to seeing what I can do

I think I copied HDR look to look more like tweaked anyway

problem is game's exposure matches SDR indoors and looks good

but outdoors the exposure is way higher

i think the mod looks better than native because its so insanely cooked

but the mod isn't up to the quality of my other mods

isn't a true fix

it just makes the hdr not complete aids

[inland ravine]

is there anything stopping you from upgrading the sdr path?

[solid sorrel]

zero interest in the game

[inland ravine]

fair

[maiden tide]

would have to fix some ui stuff with srgb resource views, could try it

also dlssfix is still beta

so fg would potentially still not work

[inland ravine]

🤔
you don't need the fix for amd frame gen, right?

personally would rather have the proper auto exposure with fsr frame gen over dlss frame gen with the funky auto exposure

-# assuming upgrading the sdr path isn't super difficult in this game

[solid sorrel]

you're forgetting that HDR also has abysmal banding

Will be hilarious if once Redstone MFG is out

It doesnt suffer from FG flicker

[maiden tide]

also they have a lot of post processing after tonemap

can't make a new render pass in reno yet

so can't insert a tonemap shader

maybe they have a final gamma shader

[plain stump]

@subtle hinge figured out some way to use shader callbacks to change tonemapping point depending on what draws. It didn’t end up making much sense to me but it worked.

[maiden tide]

Ya I can use that to track the last post processing shader

Could be a pain depending on the amount of post processing

[subtle hinge]

Yea I do a lot of stuff with callbacks. Uhm, I believe the only fancy thing I figured is to also use OnPresent (kind of duplicated/delayed variables) so logic is based on previous frame's callbacks.
Point being to be able to use whole frame's information to eventually change behavior before the end of next frame.
Or uuuh, guess future based on last frame kinda.
Came up with that a bit randomly in Castlevania addon (sunshafts) after I failed in several other mods.

[hot rune]

So right now this doesn't work with RT at all or just not with RT Shadows option?

I saw some Nexus comments talking specifically about RT Shadows On breaking Reno

[spring fog]

shrug try it

[hot rune]

Don't have the game yet 😔 was waiting for RT to get added, which it finally did but since HDR is broken I'm back to waiting

[torn cedar]

same, but I bought it to then realize the mod was broken with rt

[hot rune]

Well can YOU try with Shadows on a non-RT setting?

[hot rune]

Well I got someone to test it out and it seems to work just fine with RT Shadows off

At least he didn't notice any obvious blemishes or broken rendering

[azure kernel]

RT doesn't work with RenoDX HDR. RT Shadows just breaks the rendering, other options don't do anything.

[fleet steppe]

You will play SDRim and ENJOY IT

[true smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-todd-howard-you-just-got-todd-you-just-got-todd'd-gif-1231796242566292715

[humble vale]

I was wondering why the game looks fucked

This breaks RT?

I guess it hasn't been updated since the RT patch

[maiden tide]

i can take a look tomorrow but fi the shaders aren't different then its some bullshit pipeline stuff that could mean having to remove cbuffers

[humble vale]

turning off rt shadows seem to make it look mostly normal but something still looks wrong

[torn cedar]

Hopefully you can fix it

[violet tundra]

https://x.com/dyinglightgame/status/2001310355792756867?s=46

Dying Light (@DyingLightGame)

Update 1.5 for Dying Light: The Beast is here, prepare to face the toughest difficulty level! 💀
Hunger, new flashlight behavior, Alpha Volatiles - do you have what it takes to overcome then and beat the Nightmare?

🗒️ Full patch notes: https://t.co/tAPm8tAZ9u

X · Dec 17, 2025, 3:15 PM

some RT fixes also

[open obsidian]

Does this update break reno?

[maiden tide]

was already broken with the last update

[hexed pasture]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Checkmate!

[polar flume]

Musa now only updates after 2 years of game release so no more updates can break it

[hexed pasture]

Based on critical feedback from users.

[polar flume]

[open obsidian]

I swear I saw a msg from MUSA that reno for this game was fixed yesterday. Am I imagining that? 🙂

[slender mural]

so disabling rt shadows and it works fine with reno is that true? I mean rt shadows arent that great anyway

[slate gulch]

Did they finally add proper shadows to ground?

I haven't played since like release.

[solid sorrel]

no, if you're expecting RT to be some major improvement on the visuals... its not

grass is still missing AO and shadows (you need Miru's mod to add SSAO and shadows)

[slate gulch]

got it thanks for clarification 🙂

[open obsidian]

where can i get miru's fix?

[torn cedar]

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/615

[sharp schooner]

I am waiting for a new release of the fix and stopped playing after the RT update due to vanilla HDR being too overexposed .. but I may try this out myself .. but this would mean loseing grass shadows (miru's fix) as well ..oh .. just noticed grass is screen space shadows anyways ...

[slender mural]

Did you try Reno without miru fix and rt shadows off and is it good to play? Also still waiting on the fix to start but if it's fine like that I might just start

[azure kernel]

Rt straight doesn't work with RenoDX HDR. If you don't wanna play with RT you can go for it.

[knotty dock]

TY...disabled RT for now.

[open obsidian]

Where is Miru fix?

[knotty dock]

I think it's holiday season, but it was mentioned it will get fixed some time...

[violet tundra]

Happy New Year to everyone waiting for a Renodx/RT Combo! 🥂🍾🎉
Special love to @maiden tide responsable for our fate! 💀

[spring fog]

i believe in musa

[violet tundra]

[inland ravine]

oh fyi the dlss m seem to work pretty well in this game

had to turn down the sharpening though

[sharp schooner]

Here is a nice chart made by S.Bako using Claude Opus and the Nvidia Programmer Guide. It gives an idea going from preset K to M at 4K using DLSS Performance mode for all GPUs in the guide:

https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/5a8010fc-c05e-4ab3-beda-a3e5a358900a

[inland ravine]

S.Bako?

[spring fog]

ai sloppa

[slender mural]

any update on the fix or is it not coming?

[wanton flume]

@maiden tide is an upright guy who would never abandon this project

[maiden tide]

Have some ~~javaslopt ~~ typeslopt to write this weekend

Never liked this mod anyway

A proper mod needs to be done on the sdr path I think

But they use some srgb view stuff for the UI so hopefully that isn’t too annoying

Also idk how I’m gonna deal with cbuffers

With SDR path I guess I can just tonemap in the proxy shader but that also means no ui brightness slider

[wanton flume]

We believe in you 🫡

[inland ravine]

if it comes down to it making seperate hardcoded peak 1,000 and tb400 addons would work, no?

[maiden tide]

their post processing is probably complete ass like dying light 2

so a ton of stuff running after tonemap

I would be able to run displaymap in the swapchain shader

over ui

[inland ravine]

ah yeah

[maiden tide]

no grading controls though

and people like the deep fried bullshit

so they'd just say the mod is worse

basically nothing good comes from this mod

gamingtech said it was good -> digitalfoundry said it was good -> all the slop twitter accounts like synthpotato said it was good

ori 2 level disaster for the perception of hdr

[inland ravine]

honestly wonder if it's just worth waiting for pumbo to do dl2 and porting some of his fixes to the beast alongside fixing anything tonemapping / hdr wise

[maiden tide]

dl2 didn't have any problems with cbuffer stuff

SDR upgraded to HDR would look fine in the game

[inland ravine]

rip

[maiden tide]

its just that it can't be modified

so people are gonna see less contrast

and say its trash

and that's it

people want it to look like ACES in this

[solid sorrel]

Wtf is this

BDO effect

Guess I am waiting another trillion years for Beast, native HDR is unusable considering I had to use 0.3x exposure in Reno

[stray hedge]

a lot people of are convinced that cp2077 has good native hdr

its bright and contrasty with vivid (broken) colors everywhere

[sharp schooner]

the existing mod is awesome. only thing missing is RT update. are the changes by Techland so massive you'd need to do a full rewrite?

[maiden tide]

I don’t really understand how it works under the hood but it has the same issue as some other mods like hitman and the resident evil games before 4

Those crash when I try to add sliders

[sharp schooner]

but the existing one has sliders. everything is fine with it prior version 1.4 of the game and the RT addition

[maiden tide]

And since people want their games deep fried

Well what I mean is rt shadows at least is causing some issue that idk how to fix

I was never really satisfied with the mod anyway. It’s better than vanilla but I can’t truly say it’s a fix

Exposure is all over the place compared to SDR which I think has a better balance

[sharp schooner]

ah -- ok. I get it. that's what I asked. So the issue is really the Techland RT update 1.4

[maiden tide]

Ya

[sharp schooner]

I'd be fine with using RTX HDR but the UI elements will fry my oled .. so that's that

when you use the old mod, you lose RT shadows and RT reflections and Miro's mod (added grass shadows) does not work

The game is great - the HDR it comes with is so overdriven .. sad

[maiden tide]

Another thing I could do is just use the game’s own sliders for hdr

Wouldn’t have as much customization but it would work

[sharp schooner]

that would be great .. just a note in the renodx window with the information to turning ingame HDR to >on< and to use the ingame sliders for max brightness.

Miru's mod (GI, grass) is fine as well. it only features an on/off switch

[maiden tide]

The Miru mod probably works by loading/unloading custom shaders

While the renodx mod works by injecting a cbuffer to add sliders

I would only be able to add an on/off switch for the mod that would load / unload shaders

[sharp schooner]

that's fine .

[sharp schooner]

I just played it for a bit again and checked out dlss 4.5
man, the HDR is so overexposured, it burns my eyes. terrible
your mod is the only real solution. RTX HDR is fine, but the UI elements can not be controlled using it

[solid sorrel]

Native is peak

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[fossil aurora]

for my eyes thjat looks neat

[sharp schooner]

After a while I set it up like this .. it's playable

scene brightness 0.90 and shadows 0.90 plus Lilium's shader to tweak black floor

[stray hedge]

add spoiler pls, hurt my eyes

[sharp schooner]

using the new DLSS 4.5 presets in concert with DLDSR is great.
A tiny bit oversharpened maybe, but still looking awesome.
This game would deserve a functional RednoDX HDR tonemap

[turbid cliff]

You've got dldsr smoothing set to 100%?

[inland ravine]

so techland is purposely desaturating the GI lol

Miru has a mod that fixes it

idk if it impacts the RT but I'm really losing faith in Techland's graphic programmers

[solid sorrel]

DL1 foliage looks better compared to The Least

[inland ravine]

the foliage looks way better pre retouched update lowkey

[solid sorrel]

HDR also looks better

(Since Musa code works and is using SDR path)

[inland ravine]

his DL1 mod is probably my favorite reno mod lol

[sterile wind]

so for oled hdr just shoot the contrast to 100 and good luck?

[inland ravine]

while using the renodx?
no
just use the default settings

[maiden tide]

it is time

mod isn't gonna have any sliders though

just gonna hijack the game's own sliders

cbuffer injection is what's breaking rt

[plain stump]

godspeed turning the least into the most

[maiden tide]

game just looks like ass no matter what

just gotta fuck around with sliders and find something I think looks ok

[maiden tide]

• requires HDR enabled in game
• works with RT enabled but has no sliders
• overrides in game sliders
• HDR Max. Luminance slider still controls peak brightness
• Scene Brightness slider is now disabled
• HDR Min. Luminance slider now controls game brightness. 0 = 100 nits, 0.5 = 200, 1.0 = 400. 0.5 is recommended for a moderately lit room.
• Shadows slider controls shadows. 0.45 is recommended
• UI brightness slider still controls UI brightness

[maiden tide]

what are the optimized settings

using miru's mod

[inland ravine]

wdym?

[maiden tide]

what do i set the graphics settings to in game

what settings should be lowered from ultra

[inland ravine]

oh I just have most things set to high + rtgi

skipped rt reflections

using dlss balanced with preset M

[maiden tide]

i heard shadows were shit

still have reflections enabled

dumbass just blew his brains out in the middle of the room instead of just stepping outside

[rich stag]

RT reflections are more good

Since the rasterized reflections are so lacking

[inland ravine]

I usually just skip them

for performance reasons

[rich stag]

For interiors it’s sad that the game is limited to single bounce and spot/omni lights are not included

And the screen space tracing part of the RT shaders overestimate pixel thickness a lot

[turbid cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/ncis-tony-and-ziva-i-never-thought-the-day-would-come-ziva-david-cote-de-pablo-ncis-gif-8654806952643534635

[solid sorrel]

Holy

So do I now do a playthrough of The Least

Is there a way for us to control exposure? or did you fix the abysmal default exposure of the bat

[maiden tide]

I have exposure set to 0.575

#define RENODX_TONE_MAP_HUE_SHIFT  1.f
#define RENODX_TONE_MAP_BLOWOUT    1.f
#define RENODX_TONE_MAP_EXPOSURE             0.575f
#define RENODX_TONE_MAP_CONTRAST             1.1f
#define RENODX_TONE_MAP_SATURATION           1.05f
#define CUSTOM_BLOOM      0.5f
#define CUSTOM_LENS_FLARE 0.5f
#define RENODX_LUT_SHAPER 1.f

those are the custom settings

I changed the lut shaper from their log shit to pq

vanilla defaults / renodx recommended settings

[solid sorrel]

aight

let me download

[sharp schooner]

no .. 55

[polar flume]

should be 100

anything lower adds artificial sharpening with DLDSR

and with the full 4x normal DSR it should be 0

[turbid cliff]

yeah you need to put that to 100% then

dldsr uses that setting as a sharpening filter, drs on the other hand uses it as a smoothing filter. yes its confusing, nvidia sucks at this thing

[sharp schooner]

Anything below 50% is sharpening your image. 50/55 is basically baseline 0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3voyiojWl4

[turbid cliff]

anything below 100 is sharpening your image

there is no blur filter applied between 50 and 100%

[stray hedge]

No 100 is neutral

[turbid cliff]

99% is 1% sharpen applied

98% 2% sharpen applied, etc

[sharp schooner]

I tired it out and 100% blurred the image. Which can be desired with DLSS 4.5
55 was the most neutral sweetspot

[stray hedge]

anything below 100 has awful nvidia sharpening applied

No reason to use it

just apply cas if you want more sharpness

[sharp schooner]

DLSS 4.5 is already sharpening the image. no need for CAS.
Just tune the DLDSR to the value you like.
I stick with 55% at 1.78x as it's fine. Maybe 56 or 57 is even better. But I am good to play like it is

[turbid cliff]

no, thats just how downsampling works

nvidia is not applying a blur filter in dldsr, the whole bar is a sharpen filter

[sharp schooner]

you can continue the discussion here .. I am good. No need for further advice. Thanks
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1c43ux1/the_best_smoothness_level_for_dldsr/

[turbid cliff]

i can continue the discussion on a 1 year old post that no longer allows comments?

someone already has the correct answer here too

[sharp schooner]

sorry .. was just an example. I am fine with DLDSR as it's set up

[turbid cliff]

of course, did i say you SHOULD use 100%? i use 33% most of the time

because i want the sharpen filter

[turbid cliff]

but im also going to tell people the facts, and the fact is that 100% = disabled, and 99% = 1% sharpen, and 33% = 67% sharpen

when used in DLDSR mode

[turbid cliff]

correct, this is because of how downsampling works, not because of a blur filter being applied

thats WHY you apply a sharpen filter to the output

[stray hedge]

100% is neutral

you dont have to use that

[turbid cliff]

100% is zero post processing in DLDSR

[stray hedge]

But thats the fact

[turbid cliff]

to match the sharpen of what native looks like will change on every game

[stray hedge]

the extra blur is because 2.25x downsampling cant be perfect

[sharp schooner]

that's correct. In 1.78, I run the best with 55% on my screen. It's most neutral. Sure there is processing. But I end up pretty much the same as native

[stray hedge]

they do some DL process to smooth that

[turbid cliff]

but if you have Preset M and L already applying a sharpen, the best solution would be to start at 100%, then work your way from there

maybe you end up at 75%

[stray hedge]

to be clear though L or M doesnt actually apply a sharpening filter

its more like it tries to undo the taa blue

[sharp schooner]

It also depends on how far you are ayway from your screen, what type of screen, lighting in the room .. just tweak it so as you like it ..
Both oversharpened and overblurred looks bad

[turbid cliff]

ive had games where i needed to use 0%

but most typically 25-30%, some 50%

havent tested with M or L in the mix yet

[stray hedge]

well i never used 1.78

[sharp schooner]

Dying Light the Beast at 1.78x is 55% for me

Quality DLSS 4K

[turbid cliff]

pretty much the only way to use it with a 4k screen for those of us not using 900w gpu

so heavy

then its just 2880p

like 4x dsr on 1440p

[sharp schooner]

yes .. with all RT features on 1.78x is fine on an undervolted 5090

2.25x is already getting heavy

If you turn off RT shadows, you gain a lot of performance

but RT shadows actually look nice in the trees

I don't know why Techland had so much trouble with RT in this game.
Their engine must have undergone a lot of changes from Dying Light 2
Nexusmods -> Games -> Dying Light: The Beast -> Mods -> Abilities -> RTX Enhanced

[sharp schooner]

Thank you @maiden tide for the update !

[solid sorrel]

The banding

Truly need SDR path

[maiden tide]

SDR is banded to shit

sdr needs upgrades

causes crashes when I try

[sharp schooner]

@maiden tide - I am sure the folks at Nexusmods are eagerly awaiting the new version 😉

[maiden tide]

Ya I think I can upload now

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/s/fcGF3b8JWJ

[humble vale]

how hard is it to make proper comparison pics wtf

does this guy have any backing for his claims about the RT

[solid sorrel]

yh but you can unslop the banding

or just unslop the banding in HDR

every light source has banding

go into a dark corner

banding

[sharp schooner]

You can tweak the RT settings for DLTB in varlist_dxrt.scr from the .pak archive

The "voxel claims" are legit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOsPC_V6uxA

[humble vale]

that talk is about their raster graphics

[maiden tide]

nexus updated

[solid sorrel]

Vanilla / Previous Reno tweaked / Current with HDR min lum at 0

using miru's mods, RT aint too bad. Interiors have grounding now with RTGI and bloody grass has AO and shadows which DL1 had

[solid sorrel]

Previous Reno + raster / Current Reno + RT + Miru's mods

@inland ravine

The Least looks serviceable now ?

[inland ravine]

yes has aura now

[inland ravine]

find it interesting that the more saturated colors of the previous reno tweaked make it look more flat

[solid sorrel]

Its becasue its lacking Preset Focus M

[inland ravine]

I mean there's more visual contrast with the new one
everything feels like it has more room to breathe

[solid sorrel]

look at the railings here, Preset M giving HDR HIGHLIGHT POP

[inland ravine]

oh that too lol

[solid sorrel]

you sure thats not the RT

since the previous pics are with no RT

or Miru's fixes

[inland ravine]

that could be a part of it lol

[solid sorrel]

I just grabbed the older pics here

[inland ravine]

unfair comparison

[solid sorrel]

[inland ravine]

trying to make the new reno look better

smh

[solid sorrel]

if Nvidia can do it

so can I

[inland ravine]

lmao

[true smelt]

what is this miru mod people are talking about

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-too-scared-to-ask-i'm-too-afraid-to-ask-i-don't-know-and-at-this-point-i'm-too-afraid-to-ask-i-don't-know-what-that-means-i-don't-know-gif-7269756797255381457

[gleaming hollow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglightthebeast/mods/615

[true smelt]

this has to be some kind of bug or overzealous algorithm. sharing files, ok, that might be copyright infringement in some twisted sense, but sharing a LINK to a file? or talking about it?

[true smelt]

thank youuu

[true smelt]

normal version or alt version?

description doesnt seem to mention the difference after a quick chekc

alt has a pak file and the other only the addon

[solid sorrel]

I use alt

because the RTAO helps out

[solid sorrel]

I shitposted against The Least

but with all the mods and updated addon

its fine, I'll be able to play through it now

distant tree still not being occluded in shadow is bad but it is what it is

[true smelt]

getting this error with the miru mod

i dont think its because of reno

there was a small update today

[solid sorrel]

Just tried the game rn

werks for me

[true smelt]

alt version?

nvm you said you use alt

weird

as soon as i uninstalled the pak

it worked

[solid sorrel]

You added the data file

and the addon

[true smelt]

Yes

That’s what I meant by pak

yup tried it again, putting the pak into ph_ft/source throws that error