3KSPM Wagonlocked Spage

[boreal oyster]

space age? nahhhh

ig time for yellow sci and im free to make a casino

this can 100% be more optimized lol

[boreal oyster]

dang this is pretty optimized ngl

ill save 2 tiles ig

[boreal oyster]

apparently 0 DI on the processing units in the design

so this is what i can do

but the GC 100% needs to be DI'd

so i have to completely restructure this

lol (suffering)

[boreal oyster]

hmmm cursed designing

[boreal oyster]

idk how im gonna export the PU's and make this mesh with itself

the copper wire DI on the RC takes a lot of oppurtinities away

so ig i put another foundry instead of DI ing from the same one

like this

lmfao thats so cursed

uhoh

this is one issue that makes it hard to tile it

i can if i swap i and o

BELT WEAVINg

USEFUl

implementing it will be achallenge lol

solved

[boreal oyster]

not to add plastic for rc 😭

hmmm

dont tthink its that easy cuz of copper wire foundry having to be where it is

but

[frail ledge]

🤔

[boreal oyster]

HI GGS

[boreal oyster]

i cooked

[frail ledge]

Geez

[boreal oyster]

dang it wasnt that easyt

1 thing is missing supply

and its the copper wires

[boreal oyster]

LMAO

so much easier w one more tile

but what abt 1 less tile?

[boreal oyster]

i did not in fact cook

dang thats an issue, the petro pipe has no where to go

nvm it does kinda

okay solved

just in time too lol

[boreal oyster]

now for stations

did it

now for rails

[boreal oyster]

did so

real question is if i should make this tile

doesnt seem fun

[boreal oyster]

looking through the thing there is unironichally only 1 single spot for the belt

idk how im gonna fit it tho

why

am i so foolish

as to sacrifice BELTING the resource for DI of 1.3/s plates

idk where to take the belt atp

nvm i do

[boreal oyster]

time to re do this

[feral maple]

u doing SA megabase?

[boreal oyster]

yeah

rn this is the starter for it

did it

[boreal oyster]

Tim to test

I setup the trains

Will send map string tmrw

Everything broke

Lmfao

[boreal oyster]

i troubleshooted the trains bs and stuff now working on fixing the small errors in science

[boreal oyster]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i did it

[frail ledge]

[tall sentinel]

hi

[boreal oyster]

This has space age stuff 😨

[tall sentinel]

oh lord

3K A MINUITE?

WTF

92K COPPER WIRE A MIN?

WTF

[boreal oyster]

[uncut yew]

Can we get a video of your Spage main base, where all of this magic is happening?

[boreal oyster]

that ss is this map

the spage main base is like 200 spm

[uncut yew]

Ah okay, I'll check that out later

[boreal oyster]

BET, i wonder what the ups you get is

[boreal oyster]

@warm shore

[warm shore]

yuck yuck yuck, dont like this

[boreal oyster]

AGAHAHAGHAG

[warm shore]

its cool but i would NEVER

[boreal oyster]

here is the book

[boreal oyster]

i dont think blueprint bot likes it tho

WHAT

IT WORKED?

HOLY SHIT HUH?

[warm shore]

ive never seen that bot work properly

[boreal oyster]

nahhh whos the dev who designedd bp bot

i need to know them

fuckign 50MB of data

like HUH?

[boreal oyster]

lmao

i think its valiant

ah nvm

idk

yeah idk cant find it

valiant was doing smth w a bot to make bps i think

[boreal oyster]

why

are you scared?

[sick trail]

ohai! I've been working on it, got a new update soon to support even more

[boreal oyster]

Ohhhhh dang alr alr, im really surprised its that fast tho

it took like 10 seconds to go through 35 MB's

[sick trail]

the long part typically is the upload of a large image, but now I keep the first image small

[boreal oyster]

3KSPM Wagonlocked Spage

🥐

[boreal oyster]

hmmm

i wonder if i should try upgrade my defences

[boreal oyster]

@marsh flame

[boreal oyster]

update on the pollution

uhh

ya

no more biolabs missing

@hybrid coral IM FINALLY DONE, I HAVE PLACED EVERYTHING THERE IS TO PLACE

I DID IT WOOOOOOOO

@sturdy mist im finally done with my wagonlocked setup

i do have some wrinkles to iron out but it wont be that bad

@uncut yew IM FREEEEEEEEEE FINALLY

[hybrid coral]

[boreal oyster]

the biters are annoying me a lot now

lol

[uncut yew]

Time for some freedom brother

[boreal oyster]

im taking another "break"

[boreal oyster]

oh true!

i do have upgraded kovarex now so it doesnt matter how much i use

[uncut yew]

Don't blame you

If it's doable, consider playing Last Epoch, it's a lot of fun! 😂

[boreal oyster]

i dont rlly play top down rpgs 😭

i meannn

factorio technically is one ig?

[boreal oyster]

@frail ledge

[frail ledge]

[boreal oyster]

chat am i cooked

[frail ledge]

[boreal oyster]

its okay!

2kspm is still 2x my 1.1 stuff and like 20x my space age early game

[fallow hull]

what does wagonlocked mean?

[boreal oyster]

to lock yourself in a wagon and some how drop the key outside the wagon

[fallow hull]

[boreal oyster]

each wagon has its own production line

they dont intersect

like belt wise or machine wise

and you can also "tile accordign to wagons" so the actual production lines are 7 tiles tall

[random cliff]

you're cooking

[boreal oyster]

TRUEEEEEEEEEE

its not gonna be overcooked!

[boreal oyster]

yeah idk

i havent touched the build at all lol

[boreal oyster]

more wall

i have like 2 more spots to expand to

ugh

biters

[ebon mountain]

holy POLLUTION

[boreal oyster]

yes i have a pretty stinky base lol

gotta clear left a bit more and top right

[ebon mountain]

Yk the cloud is actually fine thinking back to 1.1 but I'm so used to yuu's giga array of effi beaconed biolabs lmao

Like I can't visualize a bigger cloud than that for some reason

[boreal oyster]

its a bit tough to do so when you are used to something :3

[ebon mountain]

I need to do a solo megabase run and subvert my expectations

[hybrid coral]

[boreal oyster]

HI YUU

[boreal oyster]

LMAO

[hybrid coral]

hi

[boreal oyster]

summoned

😭

[boreal oyster]

bug shooting simulator

[hybrid coral]

artillery where

[boreal oyster]

im not gonna sit around waiting for artillery to clear area 😭

even if it is automated

and probably faster

tbh i should use art but nuke is so good

[ebon mountain]

I agree too

[hybrid coral]

True

I remember flying around with full leg mech armor nuking all the nests around

I feel like u can toss a nuke at ur feet and still walk out of it with full leg mech armor

[ebon mountain]

[boreal oyster]

top right left

im making so much nukes that i can shoot them mindlessly 🔥

[boreal oyster]

this is 3kspm

time to see if i need 500+km/s to supply it

(i dont)

(its funny if its so)

[boreal oyster]

im trynna figure out what speed i need for 3kspm

like 100 is barely not enough w vulc -> nauv

[ebon mountain]

you at max prod yet?

[boreal oyster]

asteroid prod?

[ebon mountain]

ye

[boreal oyster]

fuck no 😭

[ebon mountain]

😭

I'm out of touch idk how much effort it even is to get to 25

[boreal oyster]

max prod would cost like 5M right?

[ebon mountain]

sounds familiar yeah

what level are you on now at least

[boreal oyster]

yeah nah im still doing steel research

i did like 2 prod levels for asteroids

steel im at like 12 or som i think

it took me a while with 3kspm

imagine 200spm for asteroid prod

[ebon mountain]

😭

time to get back to the hell planet

well if more prod isnt possible then the question becomes how fast you can go while actually collecting everything

[boreal oyster]

wont i need space sci too?

[ebon mountain]

yeah you would hahaha

[boreal oyster]

yeah thats what im thinking

[ebon mountain]

but at least you have 2.9k stable

[boreal oyster]

i think 170km/s seems fine

[ebon mountain]

I imagine

[boreal oyster]

without using reprocessing

[boreal oyster]

i dont even buffer asteroids at the inputs

its legit just full on sushi

99% uptime i think

[ebon mountain]

I did the same for prod3 in space

giant sushi belt held like 1.2k

sit over planet stationary and theyre GONE within like

2.5 minutes

[boreal oyster]

lol i have 500 buffered of each atm

[boreal oyster]

theyll take a while to go for me i thinjk

[ebon mountain]

yeah def

[ebon mountain]

but I take it if you have 1 more row you go into chunk deficit?

oh, THAT is 3k spm

nevermind

[boreal oyster]

LOL

[ebon mountain]

my brain is all over the place bro

[boreal oyster]

this is like "if >300km/s stop thrusters"

i swapped it for 2 static input thrusters

and it has like positive oxide asteroids

if i want i could add reprocessing and get away with like 1 thruster i think

[ebon mountain]

definitely

[boreal oyster]

do i want to?

no

😭

im doing this so i do physical damage research

while flushing my purple science

because the 1 drawback of wagonlocked is being annoying

if you have a slightly empty train

as in 1 wagon is empty the others arent

you fuck it uop

[ebon mountain]

the joy of balancing

[boreal oyster]

balancers? what are those??????????

its just i sent a few fucked up stone trains a bit early

[ebon mountain]

[frail ledge]

[boreal oyster]

lol ggs

5 billion

so sadge

i dont think you need max prod anyways

i beat the game w like prod 2-3 on all prods

[frail ledge]

need no,
Level 30 infinite science is still the goal of that base

[ebon mountain]

[hybrid coral]

[boreal oyster]

[boreal oyster]

holy shit 155 mw of power

im importing a fusion reactor for this lkmao

[boreal oyster]

dang thats a big difference in asteroid demmand

[boreal oyster]

i think all i have left is fusion 🔥

huh this is enough

[frail ledge]

That's tiny

[boreal oyster]

You dont say

[ebon mountain]

not 6 generations 😦

my precious ratio 😣

[boreal oyster]

i only need like 150MW max if only making sci

i think its another 100MW for ammo and fuel

so maybe 6 gens is the right amount

[ebon mountain]

[boreal oyster]

hmmmm how to fit fusion reactor without increasing the size

i def can do it

cuz im cool

[boreal oyster]

🔥

time to add solar for fusion startup and make 2 bps

1 of only fusion

1 of it all

[boreal oyster]

final ship version i think

i can probs get the size down a lil more but meh

[boreal oyster]

YAYYYYYYYYY SPACE SCIENCE

time to research physical damage and fix my purple scienc

[ebon mountain]

gg

[frail ledge]

[boreal oyster]

sooo the purple science

i shot a few chests

gave up on that

and manually scrubbed through EVERY part of the build removing all the items and prod

explosive rockets might have been easier but also more messy

🔥

[kindred terrace]

[boreal oyster]

my new build!

i decided orange juice should be on the list

[kindred terrace]

🥓 🍊 you got yourself some breakfast! ^_^

[boreal oyster]

i dont think purple bacon is that tasty

[kindred terrace]

🥓 🍇

[boreal oyster]

@ebon mountain is this 3kspm? ;3

[ebon mountain]

don’t believe the lies

it’s 3k

[boreal oyster]

bet

:3

[boreal oyster]

is it a lie if its missing like 100spm? 😢

oaky i want more di 🥀

di rocket silos and lds foundry and processing unit emp and rocket fuel chemplanty

itll be funner than what i have

ill also swap to prod 3

[ebon mountain]

prod3 is gonna be more than enough for 3k

[boreal oyster]

but its not gonna be as fun as redoing the ratios :3

[ebon mountain]

[boreal oyster]

The rocket silo was the final piece i needed for a 1:1:1:1:1 ratio

...

[ebon mountain]

i mean

[boreal oyster]

cuz of the beacons lost from a rocket silo being there

i needed to beacon the science foundry less

[ebon mountain]

it won’t hurt to go slightly over ratio and put prod3 on

[boreal oyster]

:3

ill clean up the beaconing when i tile it ofc

[ebon mountain]

ah

[boreal oyster]

also

abstraction for beaconing!

bigger the thing its di'ing with the more putting it in the corner helps

[ebon mountain]

shift these over 1 tile down and its tileable horizontally

[boreal oyster]

harder to keep di well when the silo is taking up 5 tiles

[boreal oyster]

yeah

sure

[ebon mountain]

damnit

[boreal oyster]

either put it slightly in a corner or take up all the space!

[boreal oyster]

ill shift some stuff around and i could do this!

yeah nah

idk

i am having fun though!

[ebon mountain]

[boreal oyster]

it turned out much bigger thant the previous one 😨

lol

id need multiple machines per rocket silo i think

I DONT KNOW THE ANIMATION LENGHT 😭

[boreal oyster]

I KNOW THE ANIMATION LENGTH

14.8333 seconds

~~sayyy its 16.66666s

lol

jk idk

15s

4 rockets/min

4

each rocket sends 1k science

4k/min PER silo

Gosh darn it :3

id need 16 foundries almost maxed beacons making science PER silo

[kindred terrace]

You can do it! Gogogo.

[boreal oyster]

rocket silos are cheap, its okay

[feral maple]

how far along are u

i should be done with semester this week maybe ill try to cook it too

[boreal oyster]

i kept the 1 machine per silo

lol

[boreal oyster]

im doing vulc sci now

done with space and nauvis

next is fulgora and im never touching gleba :3

(i probs will tbh)

[feral maple]

xd

gleba is not that bad

you just need a lot of direct insert to make it not spoiled

[boreal oyster]

to expand it im having same issues as when i started (procrastinating :3)

[boreal oyster]

Which i do best!

[boreal oyster]

@feral maple i built the thing on nauvis btw

[feral maple]

bruh

[boreal oyster]

wdym bruh

😭

[feral maple]

vulcanus better

nauvis is just for eggs

and labs

[boreal oyster]

No

nuhhuh

[boreal oyster]

@sturdy mist does belt # count at all? for ups*

because i want to make the biolabs lattic

but it would be like 114 belts of science

lol

*8 or som

cuz for all the sciences

i dont wanna balance the belts, sooooo i was gonna "lab lock" except its for both ways ig

lab lock as in each row of labs has its own production line

[kindred terrace]

Number of items exposed on the belts used to be a big hit to UPS. I think they've optimized belts a lot since back then though.

Underground belts used to be way better for UPS than above ground.

[ebon mountain]

yea i wouldn’t care about belts for ups at all, ime whatever you do reducing active inserters is still better

[boreal oyster]

lol bet

ig then ill just max out what i get per machine find a value that looks cool for spm and build my lattice to that

i am not doing full belts of sci

😭

[boreal oyster]

Lmao 😭

[kindred terrace]

Can't wait to see! =-D

[sturdy mist]

Yeah, as mentioned, belts are incredible now, have been for quite a while

[boreal oyster]

🔥🔥🔥

[boreal oyster]

thanks for the clarification!

:3

[boreal oyster]

https://discord.com/channels/139677590393716737/1381239110475190434
@frail ledge @sturdy mist @ebon mountain and @hybrid coral , i am making a direct insertion mall! Was thinking you guys would wanna look at it

[frail ledge]

23s

[frail ledge]

Oh they did round it to 1k/m

[boreal oyster]

Wha

[hybrid coral]

it’s gonna end up looking like a meat ball

I’ve seen di mall terrors

[boreal oyster]

Nuhhuh :3

Watch me

[boreal oyster]

Wait you have?

Like before my vulc one?

[frail ledge]

I thought that the silo was still 23s

[boreal oyster]

ah okok

i followed the wiki :3

[boreal oyster]

hmm

wrong thread mb

[feral maple]

schizoposting