stardew-valley

[hushed hearth]

Where do you have this placed I need a place for these 😭

[tired tiger]

best crop for fall?

[mystic flume]

Cranberry or pumpkin

[vestal urchin]

basement, i think casks only work there

they come wit the upgrade

[mystic flume]

You need to upgrade your house

[tired tiger]

ok ty

[vestal urchin]

[mystic rover]

does putting 10 pine trees around a ||mushroom log|| guarantee me chanterelles

or is there a chance that it will still be a common shrom

[mystic flume]

I dont know about 1.6 sorry

[vestal urchin]

[lavish basin]

Pog

[mystic flume]

When you put paths on town will npc's break them?

[halcyon compass]

no

[mystic flume]

They break everything but paths? Zamn

[kindred oracle]

I apologize
Did it consider spoilers?

[lavish basin]

It had endgame items lmao

Ofc it is

[mystic flume]

And new 1.6 crops

[slow mantle]

It had 1.6 and endgame items

[kindred oracle]

I didn't even know that
I only knew ||the star one|| but thought everyone knew about it

[lavish basin]

Starfruit isn't a spoiler

But there were some very late game ones there

Just please be careful

[slow mantle]

#stardew-spoilers message

Message link^^

[lavish basin]

Those can't be mentioned here dude

We just told you

[slow mantle]

Yes. You can't mention them in here though

[kindred oracle]

I added spoiler dltho

[lavish basin]

CANT be mentioned

[slow mantle]

It's post cc. You can't mention them even with spoilers

[lavish basin]

Read the rules I beg

[slow mantle]

!checkthepins

[novel thistle]

To keep things spoiler-free for new players, #new-farmers does not allow mentions of post-cc/joja content, and requires spoiler tag usage for certain other topics. Please check the pins of the channel for more information on what needs to be spoiler-tagged and what can't be discussed at all.

To use this command, type !checkthepins.

[glacial oracle]

Yo bro I'm on my alt for once

[kindred oracle]

Oh apologies I didn even know what did post cc mean

[glacial oracle]

It's cherri

[lavish basin]

Like kat said, those items can't be menitoned even with spoiler tags

[snow lichen]

i just finished ||squidfest day one|| :D

[lavish basin]

Alts aren't allowed in the server. Can only have 1 account

[grand nymph]

see if u let ur animals out the barn and stuff do they run away without a fence

[snow lichen]

||8 squids||

[grand nymph]

like pure run away from you

[glacial oracle]

My bad I'll leave lol

[slow mantle]

They stay on your farm if that's what you mean

[grand nymph]

ya

[limber turret]

man ridgeside makes the early game SO easy

[lavish basin]

How so

[limber turret]

odd jobs

[spiral kraken]

Now I'm on my acc lol but nah I went mining earlier and came back with 3 ancient seeds 😭

[vestal urchin]

wedding fit check

[spiral kraken]

:0 yoo

[vestal urchin]

sadge i couldnt get crystal shoes but it ok

[viral copper]

Wooow

[lavish basin]

Ayyyy

[young ruin]

Can someone give me some advice on whether to go with the mushroom cave or the fruit cave?

[snow lichen]

👀

[snow lichen]

mushroom for money and energy food, fruit cave for cc

[vestal urchin]

[viral copper]

Congratulations. We got the Same husband🤣

[winged delta]

will a farm animal get pregnant if there's only one if it's species

[viral copper]

Yes

[lavish basin]

Mitosis

My toe sis

[dense minnow]

We love game logic

[ornate grove]

Guys im in a bit of a situation should I get to know Abigail more or start dating Leah

This is the most important decision I have ever had to make in my life

[woeful jacinth]

I usually end up buying fruit trees so I go with mushrooms

[winged delta]

sheeps or pigs which is better

[marsh anvil]

I NEED

[winged delta]

i chose leah

[marsh anvil]

leah 100%

[snow lichen]

||squid fest winter 13. get 10 squids||

[viral copper]

Truffles give good money. (Pigs)

[woeful jacinth]

Plus I can happily store machines and chests in a mushroom cave without worrying about blocking fruit spawns

[marsh anvil]

oooo sick!!!! only ||winter 13?||

[snow lichen]

yeah

[lavish basin]

Pigs

[snow lichen]

||winter 12 has diffrent rewards||

[vestal urchin]

no..

[marsh anvil]

oh!

[woeful jacinth]

When you have maxed out foraging and got Botanist pigs are all sorts of awesome

[snow lichen]

OML I KEEP GETTING TUNA

[vestal urchin]

WOOWW DEMETRIUS.

[snow lichen]

im resetting day i have ||0 squids||

[snow lichen]

half-sisters in law

[normal pendant]

bro could NOT care any less LMAO

[woeful jacinth]

You marry into a family

[vestal urchin]

yeah

[snow lichen]

guys i got the cursed, ||squid roe||

(they normally produce squid ink)

[kindred oracle]

Animals don't eat grass starters from outside? i should put it in front of them?

[viral copper]

They eat

[snow lichen]

a

[kindred oracle]

Ty

[limber turret]

i mean, it could just be the nonsequiter ending of a longer conversation

[woeful jacinth]

I have several squid inks and I don’t have any fish ponds. You can get them from the pink things in the mine that shoot fireballs

[viral copper]

Make sure there’s a rich pasture. Let them graze on it everyday(walk free)

[snow lichen]

||radar tackle|| really coming in handy rn

6 squids so far.

[muted smelt]

All done super it was salad with chicken on top

[lavish basin]

Huh

[snow lichen]

W

the tentacles shouldve been drooping down ngl

[lavish basin]

Oh nice

[sick cedar]

hello

first time here

[lavish basin]

Heya, welcome

[weak owl]

How do i know if a wine is gold or whatever quality if there's no star?? No matter what quality crop i put, wine comes out as regular

[proud pivot]

Keg always make regular quality

[snow lichen]

you need 2 or 3 house upgrades to start aging wine (increases quality)

and only in the basement

[lavish basin]

You'd need a cask for higher quality

3 upgrades

[snow lichen]

maybe ||attic|| aswell

[weak owl]

oh :( i only have one house upgrade

[tiny oyster]

you'll get there eventually!

[woeful jacinth]

I think it goes kitchen then nursery then basement

[tiny oyster]

Yeah thats it

[snow lichen]

bro i hate lingcod

[young shale]

had a socially draining day now i get to live on a farm

[unique radish]

Real

I’m listening to Hamilton for the 104729492th time and getting rejected by Sebastian on multiple occasions. ❤️

The peak of my day fr.

[idle shard]

i heard heres a fav thing easter egg

how do u activate it

[fallen canopy]

hi, new farmer here. is this the best place to ask questions about QoL mods for PC?

or #modded-stardew ?

[young shale]

modded farmers might be best since not everyone uses mods here :)

[fallen canopy]

thanks!

[lavish basin]

Gotta put "Stardew Valley" or "ConcernedApe" as your favorite thing

Each has an easter egg when you get a stardrop

[idle shard]

ah

alr

[copper heron]

GOT MA CAVE

[tawny cradle]

What you pick?

[copper heron]

Bat

Duh

[rotund cradle]

ima js restart i havent played in years and forgot everything 💀

[upper pasture]

😭

Real

[young shale]

i went into robins to buy a coop, i talk to maru, i leave w/o buying coop like wtf

then walked across town to remember now i gotta walk back booo

[prime python]

If I propose to Shane on 20 spring will the wedding be 23 spring or 24th (flower dance..)?

[upper pasture]

It's way too easy to forget stuff in this game

[lavish basin]

Lmao I love when that happens

[lavish basin]

23rd

It can't be on festival days

[upper pasture]

Won't be during an event

[prime python]

Ok cool

[lavish basin]

And it's 3 days after proposing, not 4

[prime python]

Do I have to wear a fancy suit or no

[upper pasture]

It puts it on u

[lavish basin]

It's a post cc fish, can't be mentioned here

[prime python]

Ok that’s nice

[lavish basin]

Please delete it

[velvet forum]

@snow lichen that's strictly #stardew-spoilers because it is post-cc

[rotund cradle]

bros getting dominate by a suit lol

[snow lichen]

?

[rotund cradle]

do i js sell my rocks and wood or is there a use for htem

[snow lichen]

whyd u ping me

[upper pasture]

Keep ur wood and rocks

[lavish basin]

Ofc there's a use. They're basic resources

Never sell them

[snow lichen]

that was som else

[lavish basin]

They're used in everything

[rotund cradle]

my fault im special

[velvet forum]

Chat moved faster than my thumbs sorry

[snow lichen]

lol

[prime python]

I proposed to Shane in Pierre’s shop 🤭

[upper pasture]

Worst place smh

Pierre gives me nightmares

[velvet forum]

I propose my 3" wide phone screen come with a 6" wide keyboard...

[violet swan]

i only have 4 kegs but like 100 starfruit do i just sell all the starfruit or slowly make wine...

[shut aurora]

What ore/metal does my pick axe have to me to get the big rocks out of my farm?

[fervent gulch]

iron

[worn elm]

Is "Treasure Chest" just an item to sell or does it have any use?

[fervent gulch]

you can gift it

[worn elm]

So gift or sell?

no other use

[fervent gulch]

and later you can make a pirate hat

[lavish basin]

It's just a liked gift

Better to sell or tailor

[worn elm]

5K for the chest, IM RICH

[idle shard]

OM

[winged delta]

how do i use the sewing machine i already have cloth

[velvet forum]

[[Tailoring]]

[gleaming girder]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Tailoring

[idle shard]

aw no dino egg :(

[velvet forum]

Keep on trying to finish that asteroid's work

[warm mural]

how long does it take kegs to process

[lavish basin]

6.25 days for fruits, 4 days for veggies

[echo turret]

wait you can put veggies in kegs?

i thought you could only put fruits

[vestal urchin]

fruits, veggies, coffee beans

and some specific crops for specific drinks

[lavish basin]

Veggies make juice

[old parrot]

How do I update stardew valley to 1.6.7

I’m on 1.6.5

[echo turret]

i didn't even know juice was a thing

[lavish basin]

Well

[vestal urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-27063063

[lavish basin]

the more you know

[shut aurora]

Why can’t I get iron

💀

[vestal urchin]

OH MY GOD?? LINUS 😭

[echo turret]

Love takes many forms

[velvet forum]

Floor 41+

[shut aurora]

dang I can’t even keep my energy

[echo turret]

your progress will be saved every 5 floors so it can take some days but once you reach floor 40 it will be easier

[shut aurora]

So if I go back to the mine it will put me in the same spot?

[vestal urchin]

u take the elevator

<3

[echo turret]

When you enter the mine, top left of the entrance room there is an elevator

you can choose which floor you want to go to

[vestal urchin]

it saves for u ever 5 levels

[shut aurora]

my elevator doesn’t work I don’t think

[lavish basin]

It should

[lavish basin]

If you've got to at least floor 5, it works

[rotund cradle]

where the hell is coal at lol

i gotta find some

[echo turret]

sometimes on mine floors, there will be a backpack or a minecart with coal

[vestal urchin]

so in some mines levels you'll see tracks and at the end of those tracks theres a cart full of coal (it does not reset), it gives u like 8 i think?

or the backpacks yes

[sick flicker]

I JUST GOT GIVEN ENOUGH NONEY TO BUY STARDEW FOR OC

[echo turret]

coal has been the bane of my existence in the first year

i never had enough

[sick flicker]

RAHHHHH

[zinc furnace]

||not sure if this is the right place to ask. how importent is watering the dog/cat bowl?||

[vestal urchin]

YAY

[vestal urchin]

i just pet mine every day and it worked out, i think the bowl might be extra friendship points? not sure but they wont die or anything

[echo turret]

i don't believe they'll die, but they might not be happy after a few days if their water bowl isn't full?

[sick flicker]

I'm a dolla short

[lavish basin]

They won't be mad. It's just extra friendship points

They won't be mad if you don't pet them either

[tacit ridge]

guys help how do i get goat cheese (im dumb)

[lavish basin]

It's all just points

[sick flicker]

sad

[lavish basin]

Goat milk in a cheese press

[echo turret]

goat milk

same way as normal milk, but with a goat

[tacit ridge]

oh

[echo turret]

except the goat only produces milk every 2 days

[zinc furnace]

Get a Goat, Feed/Pet It Daily, Start Milking It When You can, Make a Cheese Press, and put Goat Milk in the Cheese Press.

[shut aurora]

Dang crab

[tacit ridge]

mm yay goat cheese 🗣️

[lavish basin]

I prefer cow

[fallen widget]

the rng gods were kind, im on 9pm and needed to find the eel, rushing to the ocean, got it first fish

[echo turret]

i remember i caught an eel super early, then sold it instead of putting it on cc, and it took me so long to find an other one

[sick flicker]

should I buy Stardew for PC and go broke again

or do i stick to my mobile copy

[fallen widget]

yes

[echo turret]

yes

[fallen widget]

uh well depends

[sick flicker]

financial advice with stardewatians

[fallen widget]

if you want to mod or not and have comfort from a phone etc

[echo turret]

If stardew is anything to go by, just sell 1 grape and you'll have enough to buy stardew :3

[lavish basin]

Yeesss

[sick flicker]

money is not important!!!

[fallen widget]

i think most people in this server are gonna be biased to that question

[sick flicker]

no financial advice

biased advice 🤪

[exotic bobcat]

cows eat hay right

its been like 10 days since i got 3 cows and they didnt give any milk so far

[lavish basin]

All animals eat hay and grass

!feed

[novel thistle]

To use this command, type !feed.

[exotic bobcat]

it says my cows are 1 month old

are they not mature enough?

[lavish basin]

They mature after eating for like 4 or 5 days

[exotic bobcat]

is it because its winter

[echo turret]

the season doesn't influence them producing milk or not

it does however influence how pigs work

[exotic bobcat]

they didnt drop anything so far

[lavish basin]

They can produce in winter

They don't drop milk

You milk them

[exotic bobcat]

oh

HOW

[lavish basin]

With a milk pail

[echo turret]

you need to buy it from marnie

[lavish basin]

Bought from Marnie

[shut aurora]

Duh 🙈

[exotic bobcat]

tysm

[lavish basin]

How would they just drop milk 😭

Valid question tho

[shut aurora]

Lmao

[exotic bobcat]

i didnt know milking bucket existed T-T

i know but

i thought they would just drop bc chickens did that

[shut aurora]

It’s a game lmaooo they could just drop milk

[shut aurora]

💀

[exotic bobcat]

the game makes me water seeds in winter

[shut aurora]

that’s a chicken they lay eggs cows need to be milked

[exotic bobcat]

irl it would turn into ice and possibly kill the seed or smt

[shut aurora]

Yeah

[exotic bobcat]

okay imma buy the thing form marnie

im too broke for milk bucket

[echo turret]

if your cows are still babies for now you wouldn't be able to milk them, so you aren't losing out on anything currently

[prisma vale]

Is anybody familiar with stardew on steamdeck and knows why its so zoomed in

[exotic bobcat]

i feel like disgrace to my country

[prisma vale]

I have it zoomed all the way out in settings

[zinc furnace]

||I was reading more about the pet bowl. It just says not having a pet bowl for each pet can lose 10 freidnship points a day, but it doenst' say anything about needing to water it.||

[winged delta]

is there a way to make a help request show up?

like i want the help request that when i complete it gives me a sewing machine

[lavish basin]

Nope

They're random

[winged delta]

🧎‍♂️

[vestal urchin]

hell yeah

[lavish basin]

Ayy 6 giant ones

[echo turret]

me when i need 5 gold pumpkins for cc

just wanna be sure i have enough

[vestal urchin]

fr.

since i didnt get enough parsnips i was panicking thinking iwasnt gonna get enough of any of the others, besides corn

[echo turret]

is getting iridium quality crops even possible

i've never had anything higher than gold

but i can get iridium quality fishes

[lavish basin]

Later game yeah

[vestal urchin]

how do u get them?

[lavish basin]

Can't be mentioned here

[vestal urchin]

oh ok

[lavish basin]

But they're pretty irrelevant

Cause you'll likely be making wine later on

[vestal urchin]

yeah

[lavish basin]

For which crop quality doesn't matter

[vestal urchin]

starting the whole wine thing rn

[spiral kraken]

where r these

[vestal urchin]

my farm

[spiral kraken]

:0

big farm

[vestal urchin]

i wanna expand it

but idk

NOOOO

[lavish basin]

Crying

[vestal urchin]

me too

[vestal urchin]

actually i might js leave me bc everythings perfect for me rn

farm

[spiral kraken]

mhm

cute

real

[vestal urchin]

personally i dont think david sleeps

[regal moon]

Do bombs on trees give u foraging xp or nah?

[vestal urchin]

☠️ didnt even see that lmao

[spiral kraken]

oo

[worn elm]

More important then if david sleeps. WHO is David?

[spiral kraken]

@lavish basin

[vestal urchin]

a super cool person

[spiral kraken]

super awesome

[winged delta]

can you make a farm in the desert?

[vestal urchin]

awesome sauce

[winged delta]

or plant trees?

[vestal urchin]

uhh

[tawny cradle]

Isn’t David a hamster?

[vestal urchin]

not suree

[tawny cradle]

What up y’all farmers

[vestal urchin]

farmin'

[flint island]

i have one question. can you make babies in this game?

[modern solstice]

Yes you can Blizz

Unlocked after house upgrade to include a nursery room

[flint island]

can i make my babies work for me as my slaves

[prisma vale]

is this a W strat or nah?

[vestal urchin]

trees dont grow when they right next to eachother

they have to be 1 apart

[prisma vale]

i know

[modern solstice]

Not that I'm aware of lol

[vestal urchin]

but it is smart

[prisma vale]

but once the trees break, the baby ones will grow

i think

[vestal urchin]

they still take a while, from past mistakes

it took like 3-4 seperate days to get all the trees i planted and it was only like 60 of them

[prisma vale]

i mean i put down a good 200 seeds across the whole desert

but i could also plop like 5 mega bombs down cause gold ore is nothing to me

[viscid brook]

I find getting the solar essence needed for the bombs to be more difficult to get then the gold

[prisma vale]

exaaaactly

[vestal urchin]

emo boy sleepin in a friggin princess bed

[viscid brook]

Wish there were more sun themed enimeys

[prisma vale]

I've been farming in the ||skull caverns|| for so long but i got like 800

void esscense's are easy cause almost everything drops em

[viscid brook]

I have a massive total of 2 solar essence

[prisma vale]

👏

[vestal urchin]

i have 39 ☠️

[viscid brook]

I started a new save

Only at around level 45

And I'm not gonna be a dumbass like last time and sell the essences

[woeful jacinth]

Kill more ghosts, you will have plenty eventually

[young shale]

me and who

[viscid brook]

At least ghosts also drop gold

[woeful jacinth]

I have 2 beds. One for me, and one for the cat.

[vestal urchin]

real

[halcyon compass]

that's genius

[viscid brook]

Fruit bats over mushrooms

[snow lichen]

||3 more prize tickets...||

[prisma vale]

the stardew players who treat their animals with respect are the real ones

[viscid brook]

Fruit bats are so helpful for the artisan bundle

[halcyon compass]

now in 1.6 ( i think) ||they sell cat trees ||but the bloody cat doesnt use it

[viscid brook]

Don't gotta drop several thousands on some trees

[viscid brook]

Bet you if there was a cardboard box they would use it

[jade river]

Hello chat

[halcyon compass]

yesss, but i had to plant some trees bc it never gave me apples

[viscid brook]

Yep

[halcyon compass]

oh, sure, just my real cats, who only want to sleep in my head

[halcyon compass]

hiii

[jade river]

[woeful jacinth]

I always take mushrooms and buy fruit trees. I love fruit trees.

[viscid brook]

Mine picks either the cardboard box or my neck to sleep on

[snow lichen]

they shouldve put those in the|| trash catalogue||

[jade river]

I j went outside my real life house and all our chickens were loitering outside the front door for some reason

[halcyon compass]

i dont like that i never know the difference after i planted them

[viscid brook]

The birbs are planning a revolution

[halcyon compass]

omg, yes, it would have been awsome

[halcyon compass]

is bc you didnt pet each of them

[vestal urchin]

guys

[snow lichen]

finished artisan bundle (entirely fruits)

[viscid brook]

66 more than me...

[vestal urchin]

☠️

[prisma vale]

guys.

[viscid brook]

I spent it all on strawberries

[vestal urchin]

wooo

[vestal urchin]

i spent it on coal

[jade river]

I did pet one of them that came over to me

[vestal urchin]

☠️

[viscid brook]

Can't even buy pickles

[prisma vale]

istg. 70 smth truffels from 2 pigs in a month at most

[woeful jacinth]

Literally everyone in the game enjoys fruit. You can run around with a pile of pomegranates in your inventory and hand them out to everyone as at least a liked gift, and use them for energy in a pinch.

They also make fine jelly

[snow lichen]

the dreaded o t h e r category

[viscid brook]

Thank goodness stardew crops don't rot

[untold matrix]

When does the mines open

[viscid brook]

About a week I think

[snow lichen]

spring 5

also the day cc opens

[untold matrix]

Cc?

[snow lichen]

community center

[viscid brook]

But you can't use it until the next day

[untold matrix]

Ah kk

[snow lichen]

yeah

[jade river]

Art or stardew thats the question

[viscid brook]

Stupid apples writing in a lame language

[halcyon compass]

?

[woeful jacinth]

Once you get a seed maker you can put common mushrooms in the seed maker and turn them into fall seeds, which sell for more than the common mushroom and it can give you multiple seeds

[winged delta]

yall i am 3 ítems away from completing the community center🫡

[ornate grove]

Hell yeah

[tulip pebble]

I know a mod has an npc called apples who writes bad but thats a mod lol

[winged delta]

hate bulletin board

[ornate grove]

I am halfway through the community center but when I reach summer again I should be able to finish the fish tank easily so that is 4/6 rooms done

[cobalt hare]

How do I get rid of chests

[viscid brook]

The junimos write in a silly language

[snow lichen]

lobster bisque seems ez to make

[woeful jacinth]

And there’s always a tiny chance the seed maker will give a mixed seed or an ancient seed

[viscid brook]

Mine

[vestal urchin]

break them with axe, they wont break with something in them

[winged delta]

i hated fish tank too

[snow lichen]

plus its a +3 fishing level and +50 energy (max)

[vestal urchin]

they will just move

[winged delta]

had to google how to find every fish

[young shale]

inch resting..

[snow lichen]

"i would never try something from my competitors"

[winged delta]

bros praying on his opps well being

[young shale]

isnt joja cola 75g anyways 3x the market value lies..

[viscid brook]

Bet you he's gonna use it as target practice

[vestal urchin]

pierre is not to be trusted

[woeful jacinth]

If you sold a Joja cola it would sell for 25 apparently

[winged delta]

wizard with iridium bar...

[halcyon compass]

always

i'm trying to get perfection so i need to be friends with everyone but i hate to even walk past pierre

[winged delta]

pierre is an opp
mayor lewis an opp
that joja guy an opp
marnie an opp
abigail's an opp

[halcyon compass]

and he send me things saying we are very good friends

[winged delta]

did i miss anyone

haley is an opp

[young shale]

no!!

[halcyon compass]

what does opp means?

[winged delta]

opposition

[vestal urchin]

the opps
pierre
morris
demetrius.
kent
lewis

[winged delta]

i'm using it in the more ironic way as in someone i don't like

[winged delta]

what did demetrius do 😭

[vestal urchin]

exist

[halcyon compass]

take my wife's name out of your mouth (abby)

[halcyon compass]

be a crappy husband and parent

[viscid brook]

Morris fr the villain of stardew

[vestal urchin]

rs

[halcyon compass]

i hate that demetrious gets all posessive with maru

[vestal urchin]

right

[halcyon compass]

and doent even look at sebastian

horrible step father

[winged delta]

rock eater (derogatory)

[vestal urchin]

and the second seb moved out hes like "ima turn his room int oa lab" meanwhile robin is crying and saying shes so happy for him n shit like cmon

[halcyon compass]

dont marry a woman with kids if you arent gonna love them as your own

[vestal urchin]

real

and hes just a nerd, so much of one it hurts

like bro ☠️

[halcyon compass]

as a sort of step kid myself it makes me hate him so much

[winged delta]

linus the only real one in pelican town

[snow lichen]

he gets offended if you disagree on a single opinion (he loses 1/5 of a heart)

[winged delta]

and krobus

[regal moon]

Whats the chance of getting a giant fruit?

[jade river]

His line saying eggs are a strange thing to eat always catches me off guard

[halcyon compass]

true, like, the only one everybody agrees to like

[vestal urchin]

i love krobus

linus is so sweet too

[viscid brook]

Berry man

[halcyon compass]

like 15% i think, let me check

[winged delta]

i feel bad when i talk to him and he's like "please don't destroy my tent"

[vestal urchin]

like man

[jade river]

Hes so sweet

[halcyon compass]

At the start of each day, every possible 3x3 grid of crops (including overlaps) has a 1% chance to grow into a giant crop as long as the top left crop is fully-grown and watered, and all constituent crops are of the same type. Giant crops won't necessarily appear on the day the crops finish growing; it can happen any day those criteria are met.[1]

[vestal urchin]

its sadge when hes all like "i feel like i dont belong"

[viscid brook]

Hey I'm not married to him

[vestal urchin]

lmao

[regal moon]

Oh oki tysm

[jade river]

Hes j living his life his way

[tulip pebble]

He does have a book in their room on how to be a step parent. he really, really needs better dialogue stuff to reflect him at least trying... iirc some dialogue suggests seb isn't exactly helping things either but. Itd be nice to have him say more things that show he's trying even if its not going well

[valid ravine]

Hey everyone, does anyone have any specific ways they make money other than selling parsnips. I feel poor lol

[woeful jacinth]

Fishing a lot

[viscid brook]

Selling potatoes

[halcyon compass]

there are some mods that do that, but still, i'm gonna hate him bc he's marry to the woman of my dreams

[jade river]

He literally has no dialogue mentioning seb

[vestal urchin]

melons in summer are really good profit, a lot of ppl also like getting hearts with caroline for the tea sapling recipe, they sell for a bit too :)

[winged delta]

in year one i made most of my money from fishing

[viscid brook]

I didn't even know Sebastian was his step kid

[spring bison]

Selling mob loot

[valid ravine]

Yeahh I tried. Does the fishing mini game get ant easier?

[vestal urchin]

dont do this

[woeful jacinth]

Yes

[halcyon compass]

spring year 1?

[vestal urchin]

yes

[winged delta]

yeah

get a training rod

[spring bison]

yeah don't, I'm uh just insane

[vestal urchin]

the higher the level the better

[valid ravine]

Yes 🙂

[winged delta]

and when your level goes up the bar gets bigger

[spring bison]

Anyway Fishing is the other good option

[vestal urchin]

mob drops r very important later on

[halcyon compass]

strwaberries for spring

[spring bison]

I guess

[halcyon compass]

no

[woeful jacinth]

Increase your fishing skill and it makes the bar bigger and you can use better rods

[vestal urchin]

pumpkins in fall id say

[halcyon compass]

lol

[valid ravine]

I'm from A.C and thought they were similar and they are but stardew is pretty expansive and I like it so far.

[viscid brook]

Sucks you only get those in the egg festival

[vestal urchin]

fr

[viscid brook]

But cranberries

[halcyon compass]

yeah, bc they make good money

[spring bison]

You can get triple harvest if you get to donate all the crops

[tulip pebble]

Fishing will become much easier as you practice, early on it can be difficult. If you need to, use the training rod till you reach a level you feel comfortable at

[spring bison]

For 30 speed grows

[winged delta]

just make sure you don't sell or discard anything until you know you don't need it

[snow lichen]

bro

[valid ravine]

Okay

[vestal urchin]

arent these for if u have kegs tho

[snow lichen]

the amount of money those cost

[valid ravine]

Should I buy the Backpack AsAp?

[vestal urchin]

yeah that too

yes

[valid ravine]

It seems important

[viscid brook]

They do

[spring bison]

||good in 1.6 cuz of dehydrators||

[vestal urchin]

backpack is best upgrade early game iswear

[viscid brook]

Ye

[halcyon compass]

i'm on level 9 of fishing but it was still a pain in the ass, i had to get a mod to make it easier,

[winged delta]

fishing has always been easy for me

[viscid brook]

I caught the lava eel at like level 7 or 8

[winged delta]

for trickier fish you can't follow the fish

[woeful jacinth]

Iridium rod with trap bobber helps a ton

[valid ravine]

Thank you everyone, I will keep playing and let you guys know the progress.

[winged delta]

because it will almost always shoot back up

[valid ravine]

Also if I remove all rocks and trees from my farm area do those resources respawn or am I SoL?

[spring bison]

I occasionally switch to trap bobber and that cork bobber

[spring bison]

I'd only remove everything once you have copper tools tbh

[valid ravine]

Okay, I just unlocked the Mines.

[jade river]

I remove them randomly when im bored

[woeful jacinth]

There are other places in the game to find rocks and trees that grow back, so don’t worry about them

[halcyon compass]

yeah, or when you need them

[spring bison]

Get 45 Copper Ore and 5 Coal and 2000 Gold, Make a Furnace and smelt those 25 copper ore and go to clint to upgrade one of your tools ( i suggest the pickaxe )

[halcyon compass]

but dont loose your time doing at the beggining

[valid ravine]

You guys are helpful 🤝🏾

[halcyon compass]

focus on other stuff

[valid ravine]

Like?

[warm mural]

what time does pam get to the bus stop

[valid ravine]

Farm building?

[spring bison]

I suggest getting to the end of the mines as soon as possible

[woeful jacinth]

10am usually

[spring bison]

10:10 iirc, you can get her there earlier by blocking her path

[halcyon compass]

improving your tools, getting animals, upgrading the backpack, crops

[warm mural]

thanks

[halcyon compass]

you can worry about aesthetic later

[valid ravine]

Okay backpack first, then crops and other stuff.

[tame sky]

who up stardewing they valley

[valid ravine]

Once I get off work I'll be back lol

[halcyon compass]

❤️

[snow lichen]

first pris of the save LES GOO

[viscid brook]

Ngl wood is ok the hardest material for me to get a lot of

[untold matrix]

Should i wait for 1.6 to come out i play on swotch

[tame sky]

it’ll be a bit

[viscid brook]

Ye

[untold matrix]

So should i wait

[jade river]

No

[snow lichen]

nah

[spring bison]

Are you in Year 1?

[snow lichen]

it transfers to 1.6 anyways

(your saves)

[spring bison]

1.6's gonna take a while to release for switch and mobile, no date announced yet so

[untold matrix]

Kk

[halcyon compass]

usually how much time it takes to get to consoles?

[untold matrix]

Ill start the valley

[halcyon compass]

months, yeaars?

[jade river]

Take advantage of still being in 1.5 to sell tea leaves for more

[cobalt hare]

Why can't I get rid of/buy cabins?

[halcyon compass]

do any of you know how long it took the last time<'

[snow lichen]

robins

[halcyon compass]

is for a multiplayer file

[cobalt hare]

Yes

[cobalt hare]

I don't see them

[snow lichen]

demolish = destroy

they're at the end

[halcyon compass]

i'm at 5 hearts but she never give them to me!

[spring bison]

Based off 1.5, It took 2 months from December 2020 to February 2021 for Switch to get 1.5

[cobalt hare]

No, they aren't there

[woeful jacinth]

The trees outside of your farm always grow back in a few days

[snow lichen]

how much cabins do you have

[halcyon compass]

what could i do, i want tea

[jade river]

You have to enter her garden
In her kitchen

[snow lichen]

in the first place

[spring bison]

wait a goddamn minute

[halcyon compass]

i did

[jade river]

Did you get the cutscene?

[cobalt hare]

I have 3
So I'm trying to get rid of them

[snow lichen]

ohhh

demolish buildings to destroy them

[halcyon compass]

never had got a cut scene with her

[jade river]

Weird..

[halcyon compass]

maybe i havent got at the right hour

[cobalt hare]

... what?

[snow lichen]

theres a button called "demolish buildings"

you can select that and destroy the cabins

[vapid mango]

omg i have to do that to one of my coops thanks for the reminder

[jade river]

Idk it seems to work any time from my experience
This save i literally went from talking to her outside and went to her garden and its like she j teleported there lmaoo

[tulip pebble]

It has to be 9-5 on a non rainy day

You might have wandered late or on a rainy day

[halcyon compass]

maybe

[snow lichen]

if you have done that and you think its a bug. report it here

!officialbug

[novel thistle]

If you've checked that it's not a mod bug:

• Report gameplay bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into).
• Report typos or translation errors here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/32/
  Alternatively, you can email [e-mail]

To use this command, type !officialbug.

[halcyon compass]

gonna try again and if not i'll do

[halcyon compass]

can i report even if modded

[jade river]

Get your tea bestie

[cobalt hare]

And they're still not letting me build anymore cabins

[snow lichen]

probably mod might be issues

[halcyon compass]

but i do think is the time

i went really late to get the abby cut scene

[snow lichen]

its left of the shipping bin

i think

[cobalt hare]

Finally

[jade river]

Let us know if you get it

[halcyon compass]

hii

[halcyon compass]

suree

[snow lichen]

3 1/2 hearts with pet

[vestal urchin]

OU

[cobalt hare]

How you?

[snow lichen]

i thought your name was caroline and went "what?"

[vestal urchin]

lmao

[vapid mango]

honestly same until u said this

[hard prairie]

fuck wrong chat

[cobalt hare]

THE CAT

||I have too many cats in this save||

[tame sky]

y’all it’s so cold rn

how many legs can you have

pets*

[spring bison]

1 ||( you can buy multiple pets in 1.6 )||

[cobalt hare]

Oops...

[vestal urchin]

idk man if u have more than 2 its a little concerning

[vestal urchin]

||cant u buy more?||

from marnie

[cobalt hare]

Meant to spoiler it

[tame sky]

stopppp

[spring bison]

1.6 spoilers

[cobalt hare]

Uhhh please don't call me out

[vestal urchin]

lmao

[tame sky]

damn how many you got

[spring bison]

What's up with having more than 2 pets? It's not like having 2 dogs or 5 cats will harm you in real life

[tame sky]

it will

[vestal urchin]

well yes, financially

[tame sky]

financially

[vestal urchin]

☠️

[spring bison]

that's obvious

[cobalt hare]

Hehehe it's a secret

[spring bison]

Of course you'll get scratches from your cats but that's just their payment

[spring bison]

8 cats

[vestal urchin]

real

[tame sky]

i have 4 cats irl

[cobalt hare]

You can try to guess

[tame sky]

a siamese, black, tabby and flamepoint

[spring bison]

75 cats

[cobalt hare]

I have one cat. She lives with my dad. I want another

[vestal urchin]

theres 10 cats and my grandmas house, 3 r mine ☠️

[cobalt hare]

My boyfriend won't let me have more

[vestal urchin]

aw

[halcyon compass]

give you boyfriend up for adoption

[vestal urchin]

what im sayin

[cobalt hare]

I'll sign him up for the army 😂

[serene island]

I don't understand how hard is for him to say it's gonna be at least 1 or 2 month it could change. Could be sooner or later but no anything really kills my vibe

[halcyon compass]

and while he's gonne you get 5 cats and 3 dogs and birds and rabbits

[serene island]

Same thing thay happened with 1.5 is gonna happen with this imm wait so long I gonna lose the interest to play

[vestal urchin]

felt

[halcyon compass]

maybe it doesnt rely on him

[cobalt hare]

You wanna help raise them?

[halcyon compass]

it's on the console teams

[serene island]

Damm true I always forget that part damn

[halcyon compass]

off course, i'm always willing to ge tmore pets, my wallet can afford it

[vestal urchin]

not me tho

[halcyon compass]

maybe it take different times on each company so it takes time to approve

[cobalt hare]

It's a $300 pet fee here so I'm not complaining

[vestal urchin]

||40k for a pet license has me dead||

my god

[cobalt hare]

The ||pet liscense fee|| in ||Marnie's|| has my wallet gone

[vestal urchin]

real

[halcyon compass]

where? you could go to the street and take a homeless kitty

[vestal urchin]

cat distribution system

[cobalt hare]

||have you seen the amount for the turtles?!||

[vestal urchin]

nope

[halcyon compass]

exactly

[vestal urchin]

i dont know if i wannaa.

[cobalt hare]

You might need tissues

[steep flume]

[halcyon compass]

and the worst is|| building the space||

it takes so much hardwood

[cobalt hare]

And the space for the ||pet bowls||

[halcyon compass]

i have the money for the fee but not enoght materials

[vestal urchin]

500 THOUSAND?????

[halcyon compass]

yeah, those, so expensive

[vestal urchin]

||60k for the normal turtle is fine but 500K FOR THE PRETTY ONE||

[halcyon compass]

the amount of chickens i could buy insteead and call them pets

[vestal urchin]

real

[cobalt hare]

I feel bad for one of my pets. I haven't built a ||pet bowl|| in a while since I've been trying to save

[vestal urchin]

my favorite chickne that im never selling (i consider him a pet) is cluck norris

shoutout to whoever gave me the name idea in this serv

iconic

along with repecka

[cobalt hare]

Cluck Norris?

[vestal urchin]

yeah

[cobalt hare]

Jamal --

[vestal urchin]

☠️

[novel thistle]

@vestal urchin You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!

[snow lichen]

jamal

[vestal urchin]

woop

[halcyon compass]

i love my cows and goats bc they are all name after cheese

[vestal urchin]

lmao nice

[halcyon compass]

that's so cool

[vestal urchin]

whuts farmer do

[snow lichen]

?

[vestal urchin]

the role

[snow lichen]

oh allow custom roles (liek the jukebox one)

[cobalt hare]

Just a level. You can check the pinned messages in #governors-mansion ?

[snow lichen]

or contest winner

[vestal urchin]

oh ok

[halcyon compass]

i dont really understand the roles ahaha

other than some can send pics and others cant

[cobalt hare]

Huh did they remove it?

Where da guides for each level

[snow lichen]

#roles

[steep flume]

[cobalt hare]

I'm barely to level 100 😂

It shows how much I'm active here

[snow lichen]

I ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH ||SEA JELLY||

STOP GIVING IT TO ME

[halcyon compass]

oh, ok, i get it now

[vapid mango]

repecka is so chic

[halcyon compass]

you need it, for a really advance item i cant talk but you need it

[cobalt hare]

I'll take them

[vestal urchin]

yeh

[snow lichen]

ik i need it for ||fish smoker||

[halcyon compass]

yeah, lol

[vestal urchin]

;-;

[cobalt hare]

What can I make it with + cloth?

[snow lichen]

tailoring?

[halcyon compass]

spoiler, mark it before someone gets mad

[cobalt hare]

Yup

I'm gonna see what I'll get out of it, thanks for the idea

[snow lichen]

[[tailoring]]

[gleaming girder]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/tailoring

[cobalt hare]

Not it not showing when I pressed ctrl + f

[ripe bane]

please spoil this! it's 1.6 content

[cobalt hare]

I'm tempted to open the game but I'm in class

I really want ||magic rock candy||

[halcyon compass]

do it

i do it all the time lol

[cobalt hare]

Off topic but I see you a Swiftie too?

[halcyon compass]

i got it from the ||price machine|| (1.6)

[halcyon compass]

yeah, i saw you're also on that server, niceee

[snow lichen]

price

[cobalt hare]

I'm trying to grind ||Skull Cavern||

[halcyon compass]

i got a mod that makes everything so easier, ||it adds an elevator there too, other wise i would have only got until the second floor, lol||

[vale lance]

morning everyone

[halcyon compass]

morning?

[ripe bane]

morning!

[halcyon compass]

is 8 pm, here hahaha, but morning wherever you're

[cobalt hare]

Can I add you?

[cobalt hare]

I'm still semi new to mods

[halcyon compass]

yesss

[vale lance]

morning from south east asia lol

[halcyon compass]

i can help you i you need

[halcyon compass]

niceee

a little bit, keep it

dont donate it yet

oh, when you get it then lol

[cobalt hare]

I'm looking at the recipes and some of them look expensive 💀

[jade ingot]

hi guys

[halcyon compass]

what do you want to craft?

[cobalt hare]

Wedding stuff

[verbal bay]

i did that the day before my wedding 😰😰

[cobalt hare]

I'm going to speedrun then propose

[vestal urchin]

idk why i go all out for weddings and dates in a silly pixel game

[verbal bay]

ong lmao

[vestal urchin]

like when i asked seb to be my bf i waited til fall, rainy day when he was on the pier, and as for proposing i gave him a movie ticket for his fav movie in fall, gave him sashimi and then proposed after ☠️ (it was rainy too)

[jade ingot]

hey y2 summer would a new plant mod be lore changing or is it fine to do?

[verbal bay]

Omg but like that’s perfect lmao, as for me, all i did was take alex to the movies and then waited to propose till it was tree days till his bday and we got married on his birthday loll

[light cairn]

it is worth paying 25000g for the lava sword?

[vestal urchin]

i was thinking ab doing that but personally i HATE winter and sebs bday is in winter qwq, and i dont think a movie he loves would be playing

[light cairn]

i have the obsidian sword at the moment and thinking to upgrade

[vestal urchin]

id say no but idk, i never rly bought weapons

my next upgrade was ||galaxy sword||

[light cairn]

i proposed shane in the stardrop saloon haha

[neon bobcat]

I would not buy that. I'd just wait.

[light cairn]

im really squishy at the moment, my health is tad too low to deal with enemies

[vestal urchin]

did that with seb after the movies lol

right

[vestal urchin]

honestly like, id buy a few salads and just keep an eye on ur health, once u get a ||prismatic shard then u can get galaxy sword in the desert||

also chop suey is a w

[regal hound]

Id suggest trying to get a prismatic shard if u cant get it by like summer of y2 then buy a better weapon

[vestal urchin]

display goes hard

[twin raptor]

Should i use preserve jars

[halcyon compass]

i want to marry so bad but i havent get the second upgrade so i'm kinda embarrassed to ask abby to move to a two bedroom house

[halcyon compass]

yes, they make good money, even better if you choose the artisan profession

[lavish perch]

how do i remove a tackle from my rod

[hardy mirage]

right click

[twin raptor]

How long does preserving take though

[light cairn]

how do you get the ||prismatic shard in calico desert again||

[lavish perch]

i did that but it just removes the bait

[halcyon compass]

remove it first and then the rod

[lavish perch]

ty

[vestal urchin]

after completing the mines it can drop from enemies (low chance) i think u can possibly get one in ||sc|| too if u get lucky enough for a treasure floor

[agile tapir]

The fish at the desert move so fast

[vestal urchin]

stuff like that

[final dune]

There isnt one?

[halcyon compass]

want to use a hack/exploit/easter egg, idk, to get another one?

[snow lichen]

Watering just increases friendship

[light cairn]

nah i'll go the hard route

[snow lichen]

I think

[jade ingot]

and kegs

[snow lichen]

Oh God I'm lagging oml

[jade ingot]

i made 300k off wine

[snow lichen]

I replied 2 hours later

[light cairn]

i reckon i just need to get through the levels quicker ||in skull cavern (idk if i had to censor that)||

[halcyon compass]

good luck!

[halcyon compass]

yeah, take stairs, maybe

[silver scaffold]

im getting the board game todayyyy

ehehee

IM SO EXCITED BROOOO im getting it for my bday. which is roughly like a week from now but whatever im too excited

[light cairn]

i actually cant find stairs

i reached up to level 30 max by jumping through holes

[halcyon compass]

but you cant craft them

if you have enough rocks yo spare

[hardy mirage]

Gotta go on good luck days

[jade ingot]

is your name chop suey because of the food or because of the SOAD song

[light cairn]

soad song

[jade ingot]

W

[light cairn]

haha actually both

[vestal urchin]

im sayin

[light cairn]

oh i didnt know staircases allowed you to enter another floor

im gonna have some on me

I am farming for solar essence so i got more mega bombs

[jade ingot]

why solar esscense

[vestal urchin]

i prefer buying them tho, waste of mats otherwise

☠️ i forgot i changed it

hes the one that gave me the stardrop

[rich isle]

Hey

[vestal urchin]

yo

[rich isle]

Whats good

[vestal urchin]

nm, skipping days rn bc i got nothing to do

[rich isle]

Oh nice

Ive had the game for awhile just have no one to play with

[vestal urchin]

holy smokes dude

[snow lichen]

It is more cost efficient (if you buy EVERY single resource for mega bombs) to buy mega bombs than craft

[rich isle]

Thats crazy

[snow lichen]

12 bigs???

[vestal urchin]

yur

[young shale]

must be nice...

[vestal urchin]

kinda

the giants eat up my speed gro

[raw marlin]

Just craft them

[full sky]

Nice one

[raw marlin]

I can craft like 50 easily

[vestal urchin]

its a waste of gold, i buy them for 1500

[raw marlin]

And bomb the hell out of the mines

[vestal urchin]

😭

[raw marlin]

Not for me

Use gold to get more gold

[full sky]

I keep smelting my gold ore because of Automate

[jade ingot]

good god

[young shale]

is there a way to incr the chance of giant crops

[full sky]

Not without mods

[young shale]

downloading asap

[jade ingot]

is swearing allowed here

[full sky]

It's always a 1% chance

[full sky]

Yes

Rules still apply tho

[young shale]

my joja save is turning from a minor cheating save to a major cheating save

the thought of having to go thru the mines again.. no and i wanna get rid of the giant stumps and logs and boulders on my farm

[full sky]

That's okay

[jade river]

Smh clobber

[young shale]

IM ALR SUFFERING IN ANIOTHER SAVE OK

[full sky]

Huh

[young shale]

i am allowed 2 cheat in this one

[jade river]

pull urself together

[young shale]

no

theres a bajillion thingys blocking me

[full sky]

sure

[jade river]

shakes you!!

[young shale]

and i want a pretty farm !!

waahhhh

[full sky]

Take it one step at a time

[young shale]

ur giving me mixed signals sada

[subtle yacht]

Is there specific channels for specific devices here? (I.e pc.xbox. PlayStation etc.)

[young shale]

no we'e all glooped into 1

[snow lichen]

Nk

No we are all one abomination

[dawn talon]

hiii everyone 🙂

[muted smelt]

Hi everyone

[snow lichen]

Hi

[subtle yacht]

Was wondering because I just picked the game up after a few years of a break and was wondering if they patched any of the bugs on Xbox (like the chair one)

[young shale]

hii

[trail cape]

ive never felt this until now but now in spring year 3 and it's the first time im feeling like there's not enough time in the day 😭 like 2 coops and 2 barns and a greenhouse help 😭😭😭😭😭😭 and i still need to fix up ||ginger island|| and go to the ||skull caverns||

[snow lichen]

[muted smelt]

I don’t have Xbox I just have iPad and pc

[jade ingot]

what the hell did you do the past 2 years 😭

[raw marlin]

I have completed everything in the CC besides one thing.

[snow lichen]

Me after going to ||SC|| without staircases

[raw marlin]

A truffle.

[jade ingot]

trufle

[snow lichen]

||Skull cavern|| needs to be spoiled

[muted smelt]

I am hoping for my birthday I get a Nintendo switch

[snow lichen]

Also the spoiled is post cc

Cant be mentioned

!checkthepins

[novel thistle]

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[jade ingot]

nvm i needa complete the community center

[muted smelt]

Oh I am so sorry governor

[snow lichen]

Post cc

Delete da message

Jim

Jimbob

[dawn talon]

https://tenor.com/view/luluwpp-gif-25648350

[subtle yacht]

Crazy that 420666 is an actual goated seed. You get fairy first night lol

[dawn talon]

i play switch and am still waiting patiently for this update

[copper heron]

Best regrowing crop? After I get best barn I can I'm going to fill a shed with the best plant with retaining soil for as long as I can

[muted smelt]

I play iPad I am also waiting for the update

[vapid mango]

same same

[snow lichen]

Time to plant every single cauliflower

[copper heron]

Same

[snow lichen]

Ancient seed

[snow lichen]

Fruit

[final dune]

The best regrowing crop for sheds is post cc

[copper heron]

Something other than that-

[trail cape]

spoilered now! sorry didnt know

[subtle yacht]

Yea. Trying to plan out my play through on the seed before going all the way into it. Was also trying to find a day 1 ancient seed world seed but none worked sadly

[copper heron]

I need something I can buy many times if it somehow dies

[snow lichen]

Edited to match guidlines is post cc dont mention aswell

Btw

[final dune]

Crops cant die in sheds

[jade ingot]

burger

[vapid mango]

interesting recipe

[copper heron]

Oooo my quick drawing of a PFP is in there

[snow lichen]

Jimbob remove dis message!!

[dawn talon]

10/10 burger

[copper heron]

It's this image

[young shale]

its always RAINING AAA

[jade ingot]

why you complaining

[copper heron]

That's good?

[snow lichen]

Fish

[copper heron]

Everything gets autowatered

[viscid brook]

So when should I upgrade the watering can

[young shale]

Bc rain stinks

[snow lichen]

F i s h

[snow lichen]

Wintee

[young shale]

i have auto water crops on so its useless 2 me