#stardew-valley
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They’d buy you with it
they're gonna use it as military canon
how do i get the poppy
i'd throw it away in the water
Biological weapons
screw shadow guy
flowers? summer seed in Pierre
The seeds are sold from pierre in summer and grown in summer. Or you can buy the flower itself from the traveling merchant sometimes
top secret weapon in gem sea 
ugh, gambling is going poorly.
Is it a good luck day?
another 10 minutes later and my profits are still about where they started.
i didn't check. i assumed it didn't affect this.
given that it's a one-day event.
Is it the orange green one?
yes.
What are some of the best money farming methods? Wanting to do so much with so little money is agonizing lol
have you tried extortion.
75% of the time it lands on green
so i've been told.
25% on orange
however, if that was the case, i'd be rich after 20 minutes of picking green and spending half of my money on it.
instead i have 293 tokens.
Is there an item that I can sell over and over that is easily obtainable and is worth a lot?
If you lose again bet 150
why bet increasing amounts when you lose?
i'm pretty sure the optimal strategy here is to bet half of your increasing money.
that's not how it works. each roll is uncorrelated from the other.
in theory it would be exponentially fast. yours is linear.
😕
Im aware how it works
You lose 50, so you bet 100, and you’ll be back where you were
pepper in spring 🌶️
or just plant cauliflower
Gotcha
you know, i'm pretty sure this works out to 0.5 for the green/orange wheel, and is optimal.
math in a simple case 😂
f* = 0.75 - (0.25/1) = 0.5.
Oh why math
because this is how you calculate the optimal way.
😂
Ain't no way
Maybe
Will I ever escape math
But it takes longer that way
TZ?
whats tz 😅
it should be the fastest.
Should be
yes.
im on pc
Doesn’t mean it is
I mean what's your timezone
Probability vs practicality
I'm also looking for someone to coop when I purchase the game in mid April
are you unironically a statistics denier?
I am not
oh est
But i say that if you flip a coin 50 times then it’s not gonna be 25 heads and 25 tails
okay. and?
So its the same with the math you did
We're 12h apart, can't co-op
not really.
You can try in #multiplayer-lfg-old
Sure it is
oh okay
There’s a 3/4 chance you’ll win on green so you bet big
Then double the bet if you lose
the truth is that on average, this method will be faster than any other method.
And double again
bruh stop gambling and just do fishin...
no.
What are you talking about? @regal geyser
a few things. you'll have to be more specific.
Gambling that was mentioned
i trust mathematics, mostly.
i've just been getting really unlucky with the "75% chance".
That's what I always betted for so if it's incorrect, not much will be gone to me
well, there's a way to optimize this exact class of problem.
and the formula for it says that betting exactly half of your money is the optimal strategy.
yeah it's stop gambling
i don't think you know what "this" means.
Bet the smallest amount jesus
Maybe work on your grange display?
???.
i brought nothing with me.
You shoulda seen it coming
then do fishin 400 star token per match with only 50g! do it till you can afford one stardrop
not really. i expected this to work.
nope.
Just put Lewis pants on the display, and then start gambling
Lewis sent you a letter 7 days before the actual festival
i was busy doing other things. i care not for the "festival".
also, NPC friendship isn't real so i didn't get those.
That's one way to humiliate the mayor, his reaction is priceless 
You do get some points for it to spend too. 
Humiliating the mayor and getting star coins? Heaven 
This is some results i got by using a random number generator
If it was 1-3 it was a win. 4 is a lose
What's even more priceless is
i see. this is a sample size of 1.
Putting his shorts in the luau soup
The embarrassment to the governor is so- 
Or gift it to him when he is your secret friend at the feast of the winter star
Yep. But you lose a lot of your money at once, and then you bet half of half of what you had before
Display his shorts on signs all over town
It takes longer to gain money that way then to do the other way
By the end i’ve doubled the money compared to the other method
5.4k to 10k
@tropic fox You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!
Welcome
Ok but mayor Lewis do be kinda funny tho
on average, it's still faster, i'm fairly certain. this is what the kelly criterion tries to optimize.
Not a fan of lewis
i am writing a program to test this empirically, though, so hold on.
To be honest
Lewis is nothing
He made a gold statue of himself with the town's taxes
The higher my money amount gets, the higher my betting amount gets
same.
Apparently according to the Kelly criterion the optimal bet is 50%
Yea but you can just take your end result and divide by two and have that be your betting amount
It’s a lot simpler
What roles can I request now that I'm lvl 25?
The only role you can request is the artisan role
At any level
You can request it through modmail
It has to do with drawing or creating art and stuff
What I do is I bet more and more each time after I lose because I probably won't lose again
That’s the basis of my method
That's actually gamblers falacy
this is what i've been saying, but they don't seem to think it's the fastest for some reason.
I've never posted art though?
Artisan? That isn't just the processed stuff?
The more you bet, the greater your chances of losing are
Can I still request it?
Yea in a casino
Hey math can be counterintuitive sometimes
I think the modmail blocked me
But where the chances are fixed at 75% winning and 25% losing
*losing everything
My method is much more viable
it's really not.
I can keep going with my calculations if you want
sure.
The gap between the two will keep getting farther apart
i am doing so right now.
How do I contact staff without the modmail?
@terse beacon at what points are you increasing your bet?
Can't send messages to the bot
I just googled it and they said it's an incorrect belief, so it's wrong to think that way? The results aren't 50/50 anyway so it'd work in this situation regardless I think
For example, i’m at 12,000 right now. So my new increase is 3000
No no that's not the point of gamblers falacy
i'm asking you so i can program it.
gambler's fallacy is when you view uncorrelated rolls as correlated.
Gamblers falacy is the belief that your chances of winning increase the more you lose
i.e "i've lost a lot so i have to win eventually".
Now that it’s 18,000 im bumping it to 4,000
Theoretically with 75% odds, you are more likely to win
i'm asking how exactly i should implement your strategy.
You can’t
if it's just this, it takes hundreds of tries.
You have to put in the numbers manually
Someone help
My method is incredibly difficult to be coded
But if you continuously increase your bet, you also run the risk of losing all of your money
not really. you're just refusing to define it at all.
Bouncer might be broken
I start with 500
you're describing what you're doing. what's the process? by what method are you choosing the amount to increase it by?
Can you try sending messages to it? Just wanna know if I'm restricted from contacting it
Idk what you can do here, mb ping junimos to alert them to the situation?
vaguely and intuitively?
So i keep betting 100 until i get up to 800. At which point i go to 200, then up to 2600 i’ll start betting 500
QUCK HOW DO I MAKE SHANE MY BBY GIRL
Depending on whether i’m confident, i’ll either bet 1/4 of my total, or 1/5 of my total
nah just perfect slingshot to 1000 and then bet all and win ez
oh, so it's 100 now?
you said 50 before.
No, I'm just gonna request artisan role
That was when you were at 284
1/5 of that is 50
If im at 400 i would bet 1/4 at 100
Try to go to server setting (hold down the sdv server), go to more option, then turn on allow direct message
Yeah but someone has to know that the bot is acting funky
so, now it's 1/5?
Ah right that could also be the case
I literally just said above i would bet 1/5 or 1/4 depending on how confident i am
Right here dude
And i keep it in that range
Alright, thanks
i was responding to this, yes.
Bro's using nondeterministic methods now
Can't I request for other roles?
What would you request for really?
Jukebox junkie
I guess there's also the jukebox role that only hardcore #stardrop-saloon grinders get
@tropic fox i tried running your method and it just ran out of money.
oops, not you.
Bot's broken.
But you need to be a hardcore #stardrop-saloon grinder
@terse beacon.
<@&239770080378880001> the bouncer bot is broken
is it broken??
how is it broken?
I forgot turn on DMS in this server

Ok NVM sorry yall
Told ya
Rip
I think it would work if you could code in a way for the program to ask if you want to bet 1/4 or 1/5 of your winnings
And then if you lose it doubles your bet
Your last bet
That would be nice
I know that you can craft grass starters but where do you get the recipie? I have too many animals for the hay in my natural grass to be enough 😅
i hate math for sure 
No you want a empirical test, that's like 100k tests
A better slider on the casino slots too
Same
Like sliding through 100-1000
That wouldn't work with you having to choose 1/4 or 1/5
More than a million tests actually
Pierre store
Its the best way to code in my method that i can think of
Depends really
Otherwise it seems impossible to code
if this is for sdv fair it doesnt go above 9999 smh my head
Why not just try both
Mobile store is so nice too, just a slider then buy
Its just for seeing which method gains faster at this point
Dude I would kill for mobile SDV shops
just do literally whatever
The slider is the best thing to come out of the mobile version
Thank you, I saw that you can buy the grass starter but I didn't notice the recipe for some reason
You have no idea, my farm right now requires I buy literally hundreds and hundreds of inventories of hay and other stuff
It's not a good aesthetic but it is simply so practical
Oh yea where do you keep all your silos?
I'm tempted to buy some sugar since I haven't grown any beets
Or do you put the hay in manually???
Pig farm? Pig farm.
mmm my grinding from th3 past couple days has been a blur when do you unlock the uh. god my brain ground to a halt. The seed maker
Just at the bottom of the farm
Farming lvl 9
oh good lird ok
Silos are just slightly more convenient hay chests
You have to
You know off the top of your head how many silos you got? Im curious
i think the next farm i have is going to focus on animals. Just grow hay and take care of cows. 🙂
At the cost of being able to store less
Nah manually on the feeding trays 💀
Like 40 rn and I think I need to make closer to 50/55 probably
Oh hell nah LMAO
No
He uses super chickens
bad strategy was successful on 708/1000 runs, with an average length of 28.1 steps to get to 9999.
good strategy was successful on 999/1000 runs, with an average length of 32.0 steps to get to 9999.
your strategy is faster when it works, but fails a significant portion of the time.
Yeah that was my thought after pigs
so, it's likely to overall be slower.
i have no idea what direction i want to take my switch farm in tbh
Im willing to take a 75% chance
actually, i'm not sure about "faster when it works" either.
Yeah just post game chickens
Most things are better than pigs
If you’re willing to put in hundreds more hours of prep
Super chicken eggs should be a loved gift just because
Idk maybe
(1/0.75)*28.1 is more than 32. you really shouldn't be.
Even if it is literally worthless as a gift by then
Also the way you got the results is weird because if you only bet 50% then it’s almost guaranteed to work up to 9999 unless there is a string if loses right at the beginning
in conclusion, your strategy is unsurpisingly worse than the mathematically optimal one.
Its really not
If you always bet 50% and lose until you only have one token, you bet that last token and lose it all ig
Alex said he threw away his old shoes instead of donating because he didn't like the idea of a weirdo wearing it 😞Why do people like this guy
this is probably why it's 999/1000 runs.
Bro you can't argue with math 
Doing mathematics for a betting thing is fucking crazy
this person can actually.
Its just almost impossible to lose only betting 50 which is why it’s at 999/1000
50%
Unless you lose a couple times right away in a row
okay, then. what if we assume the money can't go lower than 100?
What’s the starting amount?
Sure
100>
bad strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 29.5 steps to get to 9999.
good strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 28.1 steps to get to 9999.
unsurprisingly again, your one does worse.
are you convinced yet or do we need to jump through more hoops.
How is it possible to be successful every run?
so, remember a few seconds ago when i said this?
Yea
and you agreed?
Yea
that's how.
Whatever okay it works every time
sure. except one is optimal and one isn't.
Ew is that c#
no, it's lua.
oh dear
Try changing it to 1/4 im curious
okay.
bad strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 29.5 steps to get to 9999.
bad 1/4 strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 26.1 steps to get to 9999.
good strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 28.6 steps to get to 9999.
oddly enough, faster.
i wonder if that would change if the goal was more than 9999.
this is very useful information
I didn’t expect it to be faster ngl
i definitely need 9999 star tokens
don't we all?
Yesterday I got the 1000 iq idea to set region to Turkey, only to forget I need vpn to set it lmao
Try setting the final amount to 100,000
I remember something actut
totally not like 2800 for stardrop + rarecrow
In the Wikipedia article about Kelly criterion
bad strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 53.1 steps to get to 99999.
bad 1/4 strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 49.1 steps to get to 99999.
good strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 44.9 steps to get to 99999.
it's slower if you increase the number.
They mentioned about the game for getting $25 to $250
Im surprised every run is succeeding tbh
we have been over this, twice.
i made it impossible to lose.
lmaooo
Although the optimal betting amount was 25%, because of winning cap 12% was actually better
I thought you lost if it went below 100??
where are you starting anyway
500
so, remember a few minutes ago, when i said "so, remember a few seconds ago when i said this? and you agreed", and you agreed?
What strategy this is? We need yo code sv like doki doki?
Its what we agreed on
I guess to make it better, once you go below 100 you just reset to 100 and add a step
Just say it’s a fail if it goes below 100
To simulate just buying tokens
Because that’s when i would buy more tokens
start at 1000 because grange is easy to win
that's effectively equivalent to what i did without the "add a step" part.
Ah I see
You should def add a step or smth, there's a time and monetary cost to buying tokens
You can never truly fail at the fair so
if you lose when going below 100:
bad strategy was successful on 678/1000 runs, with an average length of 50.3 steps to get to 99999.
bad 1/4 strategy was successful on 558/1000 runs, with an average length of 40.0 steps to get to 99999.
good strategy was successful on 664/1000 runs, with an average length of 40.4 steps to get to 99999.
That’s pretty cool
Interesting numbers I should try this by myself
Guess i’ll bet half instead of 1/4 when i go for higher numbers then
it's almost as if you could have reached this conclusion in some other way.
Yeap. But i can’t calculate my method alongside it bc im not a coder 
okay, time to stop messing around and actually go do the fair now.
your "good luck" didn't do anything.
Skill issue
HAHAHAHAHA
ok bet all on this one
i secretly cast a hex on you
true. if i was skilled i would just manipulate the rng at the start of the game.
if hexes were real people would use them for more things.
What would you use it for
i don't know.
Hmmmm
i don't know what the limits of what hexes can do are, since they aren't actually real.
Use your imagination
anyway, L + ratio + p-q/b + witness the sheer power of statistics + seethe + cope, etc.
Sad
I like your funny words gambling man
still talking about this?
We stopped already
good to know
Yea i figured you’d wanna know that
I tested my own program with cost of going below 100
what were the results?
Half sum result is 19.435
Quarter sum results is 30.5769
Fifth sum reulsts is 35.8744
10,000 tests
1 step penalty for falling below 100
alright, let me try that.
ah... whatever I'll just play Stardew
But like what’s the 19.435 and stuff
Half sum result is 13.6186
Quarter sum results is 20.6549
Fifth sum reulsts is 24.3222
^^ This is 9999
Average number of steps
so betting half is more efficent
Ohhhhh
i'm doing the same thing and i get higher step counts.
bad strategy was successful on 10000/10000 runs, with an average length of 54.0 steps to get to 99999.
bad 1/4 strategy was successful on 10000/10000 runs, with an average length of 49.7 steps to get to 99999.
good strategy was successful on 10000/10000 runs, with an average length of 46.9 steps to get to 99999.
hmm weird
smh guys this was known information
i tried to tell him.
Im stubborn what can i say
You should probably delete that though you could get warned for text walls
It could be wrong
if gamble(): total += 0.4 * total else: total -= 0.2 * total
0.4 and 0.2?
Any way to put collapsible text in discord?
send it as a file.
Nope
python is convenient what can I say
Make sense
not the prettiest code I've written in my life I do have to say
i can't actually really code but whatever
i don't like python that much, though i know opinions differ.
it's sort of just worse lua but with more libraries.
python is industry standard, so it is what I use
i like lua a lot, so it's what i use.
here's mine.
wtf ????
so ture
I know new farmers gets off topic but how did it get so off topic yall talking about CODING
oh you did the complicated strat
"ture" is obviously a subtle reference to alan turing, which is a reference to computer science.
yeah
yeah I just simulated bets of different ratios
maybe you did something wrong.
I thought that was the strat discussed LMAO
i was just implementing exactly the thing they were saying.
Yo
in any case, we ought to get the same result for the /2 strategy.
why is it different?
yeah I'm bad at reading classic programmer client moment haha funny ok give me a moment
What marriage candidate did you guys choose?
can you try printing all of the money values for one of the runs?
yeah I'll try that
@hollow peak You leveled up to Shepherd. Wow, you've been talking a lot! Have a prettier, slightly more brag worthy, shade of blue.
wow, you now are slightly different blue.
200, 300, 150, 225, 338, 507, 253, 126, 189, 284, 426, 639, 959, 479, 719, 1079, 539, 809, 1214, 1821, 2732, 4098, 6147, 9221, 13832, 6916, 10374, 15561, 23342, 35013, 17506, 26259, 39389, 59084, 29542, 44313, 66470, 99705 is what i get for one of the test runs.
all are good! none of them are better than the other, choose who you like best :)
oh wacc
krobus
I have 100k G for summer, what crops should i plant? Starfruit? Blueberry? Melon?
Total is 200 and steps is 1
Total is 400 and steps is 2
Total is 800 and steps is 3
Total is 1600 and steps is 4
Total is 3200 and steps is 5
Total is 6400 and steps is 6
Total is 12800 and steps is 7
Half sum result is 7.0
i think you did something wrong.
something like that
yes, you did something wrong.
I might have actually
you can't double your entire money unless you're wagering literally all of it.
if you're wagering only half, you can 1.5 your money or 0.5 it.
If you have no keg, blueberry. If you have, starfruit or melon
ah yeah my shortcut strat is screwing with me
i'm glad making my program overly general and verbose paid off.
Half sum result is 32.9439
Quarter sum results is 47.9507
Fifth sum reulsts is 57.0717 (updated)
this is start 100, get to 9999
Remind me again what's this coding talk about?
betting at the fair
how about 99999?
Caps out 9999
we know.
Half sum result is 50.6154
Quarter sum results is 72.7303
Fifth sum reulsts is 85.5593
i got 47.1.
hmm suspicious
and always get similar results on subsequent runs.
and you were doing 1000 tests right
10000 tests.
blame the python random module?
i was doing 1000 before, but i started doing 10000 when you did.
i'd be shocked if it wasn't sufficiently random.
I was joking, its probably a problem with either of our codes
or both
oh right I did the 100 and steps +1 after losing thing
so did i.
oh, i think i'm omitting the last step.
so, actually my results are probably around 48, depending on how you're doing it. it's still too far off though.
Im only getting 48.6 after turning off the penalty for losing
here's my updated code actually
suspicious.
i'd go try to debug this, but i also want to get back to playing stardew valley since i sort of forgot to do that.
lua isn't that difficult to understand.
just imagine python, except instead of python it's lua.
yes
Should I use all my fiber to make grass starters? I need hay but I'm worried I'll not have fiber in the future
If you are reaching the end of winter, a few grass starters make a lot of grass.
In any situation place fences on top of grass starters to create feed spots.
You don’t need too many.
I was wondering why my cows never ate the grass but it seems like it's because they don't travel too far for it, most of my grass is near the coop but when I plant it beside the barn, they eat the grass right away. That'll make it a lot easier to feed them because before I had to scythe up a lot
Oh so they continue to grow from each other? I forgot about that. I'll reset the day and make only a few. I made 100 😅
you can do that?
My loom just gave me double cloth, lucky because I thought I needed 3 cloth to make a mill but I actually need 4
is the seed reprocessor profitable? the wiki says you get approximately 2 seeds back on average, but don't crops often sell for more than 2x their seed value, and more with further processing?
some will give more money when seed makered
Seed maker is mostly used only for getting ancient fruit seed
It's probably good with crops that can grow multiple times like ancient fruit, star fruit, blueberries, stuff like that
like for cranberry, you can seed maker (75g) for average 2 seed (2x60g)
i think also work for corn/blueberry
probably only useful in niche scenario though
yall im watching the dungeons and dragons movie without actually knowing anything about the game itself is this fine?
I don't think this is the right discord server for that question
i mean you can talk offtopic preferably not here though
does anybody know how the best way to get iridium is so i can go to ginger island?
You should probably spoiler that
well oops do you know how
Probably ||Skull caverns||
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put two of these || before and after the message
ok
OH.
The late part of question is prohibited to be talked in thia channel. But for getting iridium, ||skull cavern|| dive
yes
then where do i talk about it
oh ok
I'm getting married to Abigail on the first day of winter, I'm pretty hyped for it
That's for spoiler free and all post-CC content talk
Good morning
Might as well delete the question here
Morning
I get 1 back on average 
After weeks of farming, I finally killed enough dust sprites for the burglar ring, but I have to wait until 2 pm to get it. Why do they the last place to open anyway? Shouldn't adventurers be up bright and early 
it's not like the caves care for the time.
also, maybe they are up bright and early, adventuring instead of standing around in the adventurers guild.
they're not
i just pet my animals and instead of the little
they did a
, is that better or worse? 😭
better
in reality its the same but
it means that you've placed something in that coop/barn
coal is being a big issue for me.
i'm going through the crystalline section of the mines, and i've gotten more iron than i can even smelt with the coal i got from it.
is there no better way other than buying it or the charcoal kiln?
Farm dust sprites (the little black/dark blue creatures that come in bulk)
only other way I remember to get good amounts of coal
Or buy from clint
What do I do with a Golden Pumpkin
that's literally what i've been doing.
Clint’s the fastest tbh
i got an entire 13 coal from an entire day of going through that section of the mines.
Farming coal will take a long time 
i'm not lategame enough for my money to be completely disposable like this.
Communist Valley
True yeah…
it'd be really expensive right now for me to buy it in bulk.
increased luck also increases drop chances from mobs right?
If yes then just go to mine when you got max daily luck and grind dust sprites by switching floors with the elevator
no it doesnt
Hey, to double check, how much money would I want before splurging on an Iridium Rod?
Currently at 8.3k.
rip
Should I save all my pumpkins for making juice or just the normal rarity ones? (I have 13 kegs, 244 normal pumpkins, 135 silver, and 95 gold)
Gonna have crops coming up soon. In summer, day 8
so I'll have a burst of income.
https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/266144973613826048/1090113785173389332 This is the layout I'm using, if that helps.
depends on how fast you need money and how long you want the pumpkins to occupy your kegs
Kegs need 4 days to turn pumpkins into juice so you gotta calculate how long until you get the next thing you want to put into the kegs
but overall putting in kegs is always worth it if you can spare them for the time
I'll just sell my silvers and golds, The 200+ pumpkins will probably occupy my kegs until I find something better
76 days for all your normal pumpkins if you don't get more kegs
Then yeah, that'll last
Cause winter starts tomorrow, so I just need them to last till next summer
Well, it'll be close enough
Also, Is there any use to the Golden pumpkin that you get from Spirits eve?
Um... any input?
If you're good enough at fishing or don't do it that often don't bother getting the rod until winter I'd say
Then it's better to simply concentrate on making cash with the farm
more considering it to use the dressed bobber.
and the bait.
still have stuff I need to wait on with the farm before any money can be made on it.
if you don't have any tool/building/backpack upgrade you really want rn then I'd say go for it
And if you fish often enough to make it worth it
I have the first Backpack upgrade right now.
explosive ammo. i've heard good things.
true
is it very hard to get earlygame, though?
also, bronze watering can, axe, and pickaxe is coming in soon.
that a good position to be in.
I think you can buy it from adventurers guild
Now that you've unlocked the recipe
Could be dwarf tho
The adventurers guild is correct
300g per explosive ammo. that's too expensive.
i'd rather buy the coal from clint and make it myself.
though i'm not actually going to do either of those things, since both of those are too expensive.
I wasn't aware of how much it costed, I'm at combat level 7 myself
What are fast ways of raising foraging?
I'm at level 5, one off from getting lightning rods.
It depends on your amount of gold vs. your amount of ores and coal
probably chop trees if you haven't
done a lot of that.
Grow some wild seeds if you have the resources I suppose
mixed seeds, you mean?
I mean, I still have some
I can probably work on some when I get b ack.
just been a little hesitant due to the constant storms since hte trees divert stuff away from my crops
Today is a good day.
You could craft these two
huh, these are cheap.
Hopefully it's not yet Autumn
It's the 8th.
also, i'm in the same situation actually.
8th Summer?
Wild Seeds (Summer) isn't that bad
but depends if you want to use your energy/sprinklers for them
I use half my energy for the current farm setup right now.
no energy upgrades and just bronze watering can.
And the other half?
you could plant and harvest wild seeds
I got to level 10 foraging in winter y1 cause I mostly used seasonal seeds
Actually maybe it even was autumn 
generally spent on fishing, chopping wood, mining, or something else.
I would suggest get more quality sprinklers for your wild seeds, but that's just me
I'm going to my second save, I plan to choose Joja Market this time, is it good?
Easier route
Gives access to an item for money that you usually only get by being lucky
Some argue it's even the better route morally
also with the membership, seeds in Joja market will cost same price as Pierre which means you have a place to buy seeds from Wednesday
what should i grow in spring?
the obvious answer seems to be "cauliflowers", but they take exactly 12 days to grow which is really inconvenient.
that means i can't sell them in time for the festival to get strawberry seeds.
Potatoes theoretically give the best $/d value
i'm interested in the best sell value/cost ratio.
well until strawberries
i don't think that potatoes are the optimal choice.
i think that garlic might be.
consider this: the ratio is 1.5, and they take 4 days to grow.
Am I ready for ||Skull Caverns||? (There's no items behind the mayo machine recipe)
potatoes have a slightly higher ratio of 1.6, but i can grow garlic 2 times before the festival.
(6/4)^2 is 2.25, higher than potatoes.
am i correct?
in that case Cauliflower > Potatoes > Kale for year 1
cauliflowers are out of the question.
oh for the festival
what day was the festival again?
13th.
if i planted cauliflowers on the 1st, they would grow by the 13th but i'd be unable to sell them.
then I'd suggest potatoes first and then Garlic when you don't have time for potatoes
6 days + 4 days
12 days. i'd be unable to sell the garlic.
6+4=10
Are you in Yr2 already?
Right
i suppose i could try making a lot of sprinklers during the winter, though it still sounds hard.
Have you unlocked the Greenhouse yet?
no, and i won't be able to until fall of year 2.
Oh
I was gonna suggesting grow some strawberries with the Garden Pot and turn the strawberries into seed during winter, but eh
i don't even have the seed processor.
Oof okay
so, i'm unsure what the best strategy is here.
if i do potatoes -> garlic, that works, but that's a lot of garlic.
in that case with fertilizer you could grow 2x potatoes if you got enough
maybe garlic -> potatoes is a better strategy. multiplication is commutative but there will be less garlic.
spring 1 is going to be a busy time.
well, i suppose i have one day of freedom.
what's peoples' usual strategy for this?
the optimizers usually just grind enough money y1 by fishing to buy tons of strawberries y1
and then grow strawberries y2
it's far too late for that.
so true
That's why in your case either Garlic+Potatoes or 2x Potatoes with speedgro+
it might have to be garlic + potatoes.
That’s what I like to do
though i can't fathom exactly how i'm going to plant so much garlic in 2 days.
or get that many sprinklers in 28.
I’d personally just grow Rhubarb/Cauli lol.
or get enough fertilizer for anything.
I can’t imagine growing that much Garlic
lol
well, i can't use cauliflowers since i won't be able to sell them by the festival.
speedgro
not happening.
definitely not in time, anyway.
and if i bought it from pierre, i'd lose more money than i'd make from the cauliflowers.
What about Deluxe Speedgro from ||Sandy||?
i don't have the 25000g bundle.
oh dear
also, that would still be really unprofitable and i'd be better off growing pretty much anything else.
Hmm...
You know @regal geyser If you can get Farming Lv10 and get Agriculturist, Rhubarb could be quite viable
i cannot get farming level 10 before spring 1.
Shame
at best i'll end up at farming level 8 or 9 by the end of fall.
and i don't think i can do much in winter.
Well then it really depends how much gold and sprinkler you have then
If you can buy Deluxe Speedgro that would give you one more harvest on strawberry
which means an extra 120g profit
but it costs 80g per deluxe speed-gro.
yes, that's why it depends how much gold you have on spring 1
oh, and you haven't unlocked bus yet?
by the end of fall i'll have harvested all of my pumpkins, so i'll probably have a lot.
no, i haven't.
unless i waste it all in winter.
i'm honestly not sure what to do with regards to making money after fall.
It's either ||Skull Cavern|| or growing wild winter seeds
well, i can't do the first thing because skill issue. how do you get wild winter seeds?
so true
You will need Foraging Lv 7 for the wild winter seed recipe
well, that's not happening probably.
Hmm I guess there's always the option to earn profit from the animals
like making mayo and cheese
Well go to the secret wood and chop those stump for a total of 150 Foraging XP every day
oh, huh. i'm now foraging level 6.
well, neat. it's fall 21, though. i don't know if there's time.
1050 foraging xp isn't enough.
I can't find Gold ore
floor 80+.
You should be able to get another 210 foraging XP harvesting those 30 winter seeds from the bundle at the very least
Thanks bro
So you should be able to keep yourself busy at least for half the winter? Maybe?
Wt. I am a villager
:/
Er I am talking to Heav?
i havent played sdv for the past week is this a new record
am i finally in stardew valley addiction recovery
Sounds sad
it very much so consumed my life for a solid 2 weeks
haven't played stardew for a quarter year cause I was waiting for smapi on Android becoming 1.5 compatible but I'm thinking about just getting the PC version
hmm.
id defo say pc > mobile but also mobile ports r cheaper usually so i see why so many ppl play mobile
i think i'll have over 40000g by spring 1.
and the number of sprinkler?
can i really plant over 1000 garlic in 2 days?
I play mobile port cause I had no PC when I got it
i didn't count, but i don't have that many.
if you got enough food to keep your energy up when watering
i'll need 125 by spring 1. this is intractible.
just the 375 coal requirement alone is really, really hard.
hmm. what should i do?
how about buy the 25000g bundle? lol
well, i don't have 25000g yet, but i will soon.
but what then? i think i'm unlikely to be able to do much even then.
even if i unlock and craft iridium sprinklers, it's not like i'll have battery packs.
I wouldn't bother with watering so much crops, so...
what do you think i should do in spring 1, then? not plant garlic?
dust sprites in the mine
or,
I will try to mine as much coal, iron, gold in the winter first
what year are u?
and see how many quality sprinkler I can have
jst buy the resources lol
if you know how to farm these well, please tell me how.
its cheapest in y1
it's really not cheap at all.
it gets more expensive y2
it goes up during y2
i know.
i could not afford 125 sprinkler's worth of resources, even by year 1 prices.
and even if i could, i'd never afford the crops after.
i'm not lategame. i don't have unlimited money.
the ice floors, 41-79 i believe
travel with elevator between 50-65 and only stop when you see them
yeah. just keep resetting the floors
that's what i've been doing.
it's still so slow.
i get somewhere from 2 to 15 coal per entire day doing that.
sometimes progress is slow. your best best is fish a shitton if you have a high enough level imo, get 10k +, and just buy resources before y1 is over
is there a way to upgrade my sprinkler 4 tiles isnt enough 😫
no upgrade just replacing with better ones
"just buy resources"?
hmmm
8 tile sprinkler at farming level 6, 24 tile sprinklers at farming level 9
the quality sprinkler costs iron, gold and refined quartz.
😢
the 24 tile costs iridium, gold, and battery packs
they're not very difficult to get once you're at that point.
i guess so
though i need 125 which is actually kind of difficult.
They are
woah iridium 😢😢😢
I'm at that point, iri and battery packs are a nightmare to get
125 sprinklers at year one?
Mostly cause I didn't think about battery packs until near the end of fall
i would say right now focus on mining, getting deep in the mine so you can get the resources for the quality sprinklers
does it not storm often in the game?
not really
You really want to burn yourself out from the game right? 
Well, I didn't think about it till late fall, and there's no storms in winter
my record was 4 storms without totems in summer
yeah, i say i dont like mining but when i get in its like the stardew mining gods possess me and i go at it until midnight or until i pass out
ohh damn
I didn't like mining until opening all my type of geode in my lucky day
its all rng so you can manipulate it with step mapi or rain totems and stuff like that but it does not rain that often anyways
Oh God, it's floor one and Im at half health
Luck has no effects on opening geode though
luck doesnt effect geodes actually
oh man thats kinda sad
Isn't the rng what's in the geodes set when you obtain them?
lmao I got scammed
how so?
i just realized i said rpg instead of rng LMAOOO no one saw that
he wasted his time on the lucky day opening geodes
thought it's thing depends on your luck
I enter the ||Skull caverns|| and instantly there were 5 ||serpents|| surrounding the ladder
Guys how do i buy multiple things at once? Like shift + left click is buy 5 , what are the other buy more options?
i thought that for quite a while too LMAO
Nah, it's your change of getting geode in general that's effected by luck
Think it's Ctrl + Shift + Left click is 25
Ah thanks
I always waiting on my fortune teller for opening those
And holding the right click for contious buying
okay I'm opening all of it tomorrow
i couldnt live without my mods i hate checking the tv and ui info suite tells me every day the luck automatically LMAO
ahhh
just put your tv next to your bed
I couldn't survive without Automate
does the trash bear not accept iridium quality stuffs
if i'm not going to be making 125 sprinklers, what should i be doing on the 1st of spring?
Urgh why is my trash bear not appearing? Is it because of the festival?
rain?
obviously no rain on festival
well, i also want money.
strawberries are money.
do you think i should plant my strawberries on year 3 or year 2?
if i plant them on year 3, i can just plant cauliflowers twice on year 2 instead.
yes, this is what i was implying.
yeah then just plant strawberries twice since you already have the seeds
I just made alot of gates instead of fences 
EEE
guyss
EEEE
does trash bear not accept iridium quality stuffs
I can!
Just lemme finish up something on my farm
Alright come to dms
aigh t
how many points do i need to be able to send photos here
ive did it
i bought sdv
how and when to coop
after day 30 or sth
can i just host a farm
u can do it from the start ! theres a menu for coop
anyone wanna join now i dont want it empty from start
isn't there #multiplayer-lfg-old for this.
^ good place to check out
You need level 5
do i post this this on multiplayer lfg
And the level is checked with the !lvl command in #governors-mansion
Probably
ah thanks!
looks like a lot of effort tho
Its not THAT long tbh
Its all about minutes and messages sent
I think theres more info on it somewhere in #roles
Because youre supposed to send a request and wait
I wonder what we did last night, hmm
You watched the lord of the rings trilogy
my trash bear asked for a type of fish but idk which one it is from the little icon bcs there's no dialogue
You got a screenshot you can send in #images-and-memes?
what mod is that?
oh I can do that?
Yep
Portrait mod? Nyapu's portraits

Hello
aight im joining
it aint working
FINALLY
I'm just gonna farm some hardwood in my free time 
I finished 2 cc bundles
? i gave invite only mode
minecarts and quarry are now unlocked

i entered it in inviite code
i tried in both lan and enter code
now fill up the quarry with stuff 
might be a good place to get mining levels up without having to deal with monsters
painings can we talk in joja mart vc
if ur okay with it
maybe ill screenshare if im doing sth wrong
hop on
you're not yet lvl 5
come private vc
it's going to take me so long.
what the rewards may ik?
i think it's the burglar ring or whatever.
ahh.... aight thx. might hunt for that too
Correct
I think its T
How to auto water plants in the greenhouse? Apparently sprinklers don’t work there
they do work there 
They do?
did you just put them up?
Then why hasn’t my sprinkler going on
No, I put them up a day before I slept in the game
if so, you gotta wait until the morning cause that's when they water crops
I did, they didn’t water them
I had to manually water them, so a screenshot won’t really work
ahh, I see. which sprinkler did you use?
The 2nd upgrade
Yes I did
hard to say why it's not working then 
bug?
you can always check out the sprinkler layout on the wiki page for greenhouse for reference
Alr
might be a bug, honestly idk. I was asking questions to make sure it's not a human error so to say

