#stardew-valley

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quiet field
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I have so many chests full of fish and forage that I hard, if I sold the majority of them I can make 25k easy

terse beacon
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They’d buy you with it

cobalt hare
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they're gonna use it as military canon

blissful stirrup
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how do i get the poppy

copper torrent
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i'd throw it away in the water

terse beacon
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Biological weapons

copper torrent
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screw shadow guy

cobalt hare
terse beacon
blissful stirrup
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ah ok i didnt know it was a grow item

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thanks

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thought it would be a forage

cobalt hare
terse beacon
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Secret miniboss

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Joja sponsored and funded

regal geyser
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ugh, gambling is going poorly.

terse beacon
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Is it a good luck day?

regal geyser
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another 10 minutes later and my profits are still about where they started.

regal geyser
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given that it's a one-day event.

terse beacon
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Is it the orange green one?

regal geyser
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yes.

olive python
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What are some of the best money farming methods? Wanting to do so much with so little money is agonizing lol

regal geyser
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have you tried extortion.

terse beacon
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75% of the time it lands on green

regal geyser
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so i've been told.

terse beacon
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25% on orange

regal geyser
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however, if that was the case, i'd be rich after 20 minutes of picking green and spending half of my money on it.

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instead i have 293 tokens.

terse beacon
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Keep betting 50 on green

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If you lose then bet 100 on green

olive python
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Is there an item that I can sell over and over that is easily obtainable and is worth a lot?

terse beacon
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If you lose again bet 150

regal geyser
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why bet increasing amounts when you lose?

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i'm pretty sure the optimal strategy here is to bet half of your increasing money.

terse beacon
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So you win it back

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Yea that works but it’s extremely slow

regal geyser
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that's not how it works. each roll is uncorrelated from the other.

regal geyser
olive python
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😕

terse beacon
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Im aware how it works

cobalt hare
terse beacon
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You lose 50, so you bet 100, and you’ll be back where you were

cobalt hare
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or just plant cauliflower

olive python
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Gotcha

regal geyser
cobalt hare
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math in a simple case 😂

regal geyser
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f* = 0.75 - (0.25/1) = 0.5.

regal geyser
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because this is how you calculate the optimal way.

cobalt hare
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😂

tropic fox
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Ain't no way

terse beacon
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Maybe

tropic fox
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Will I ever escape math

terse beacon
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But it takes longer that way

gusty isle
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will someone co op with me just to see how it works

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ive never co op before

gusty isle
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whats tz 😅

regal geyser
terse beacon
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Should be

regal geyser
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yes.

gusty isle
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im on pc

terse beacon
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Doesn’t mean it is

regal geyser
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what? yes it does.

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that's literally what it means.

tropic fox
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I mean what's your timezone

terse beacon
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Probability vs practicality

tropic fox
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I'm also looking for someone to coop when I purchase the game in mid April

regal geyser
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are you unironically a statistics denier?

terse beacon
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I am not

gusty isle
terse beacon
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But i say that if you flip a coin 50 times then it’s not gonna be 25 heads and 25 tails

regal geyser
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okay. and?

terse beacon
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So its the same with the math you did

tropic fox
regal geyser
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not really.

tropic fox
terse beacon
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Sure it is

gusty isle
terse beacon
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There’s a 3/4 chance you’ll win on green so you bet big

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Then double the bet if you lose

regal geyser
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the truth is that on average, this method will be faster than any other method.

terse beacon
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And double again

cobalt hare
regal geyser
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no.

tropic fox
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What are you talking about? @regal geyser

regal geyser
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a few things. you'll have to be more specific.

cobalt hare
tropic fox
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Gambling that was mentioned

regal geyser
tropic fox
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Oh ic

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It's ok to bet like 10

regal geyser
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i trust mathematics, mostly.

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i've just been getting really unlucky with the "75% chance".

tropic fox
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That's what I always betted for so if it's incorrect, not much will be gone to me

regal geyser
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well, there's a way to optimize this exact class of problem.

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and the formula for it says that betting exactly half of your money is the optimal strategy.

cobalt hare
regal geyser
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i don't think you know what "this" means.

cobalt hare
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what the purpose of your gambling anyway

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stardrop isn't?

regal geyser
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get more tokens.

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it is.

tropic fox
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Bet the smallest amount jesus

tropic fox
regal geyser
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???.

regal geyser
tropic fox
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You shoulda seen it coming

cobalt hare
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then do fishin 400 star token per match with only 50g! do it till you can afford one stardrop

regal geyser
cobalt hare
nimble storm
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Just put Lewis pants on the display, and then start gambling

tropic fox
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Lewis sent you a letter 7 days before the actual festival

regal geyser
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i was busy doing other things. i care not for the "festival".

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also, NPC friendship isn't real so i didn't get those.

tropic fox
topaz glen
tropic fox
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Humiliating the mayor and getting star coins? Heaven SDVpufferowo

terse beacon
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This is some results i got by using a random number generator

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If it was 1-3 it was a win. 4 is a lose

tropic fox
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What's even more priceless is

regal geyser
tropic fox
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Putting his shorts in the luau soup

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The embarrassment to the governor is so- SDVshorts

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Or gift it to him when he is your secret friend at the feast of the winter star

terse beacon
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Yep. But you lose a lot of your money at once, and then you bet half of half of what you had before

tropic fox
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Display his shorts on signs all over town

terse beacon
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It takes longer to gain money that way then to do the other way

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By the end i’ve doubled the money compared to the other method

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5.4k to 10k

tropic fox
novel thistleBOT
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@tropic fox You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!

terse beacon
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Congrats

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Welcome to the farmer community

tropic fox
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I got to level 25 by teaching ppl to humiliate the mayor

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How ironic LMFAOOOO

hollow peak
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Welcome

hollow peak
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Ok but mayor Lewis do be kinda funny tho

regal geyser
terse beacon
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Not a fan of lewis

regal geyser
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i am writing a program to test this empirically, though, so hold on.

terse beacon
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It seems kinda hard to code in my method

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At 4000, i bumped it to 1000

tropic fox
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To be honest

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Lewis is nothing

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He made a gold statue of himself with the town's taxes

terse beacon
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The higher my money amount gets, the higher my betting amount gets

regal geyser
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same.

hollow peak
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Apparently according to the Kelly criterion the optimal bet is 50%

terse beacon
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Yea but you can just take your end result and divide by two and have that be your betting amount

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It’s a lot simpler

tropic fox
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What roles can I request now that I'm lvl 25?

terse beacon
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The only role you can request is the artisan role

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At any level

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You can request it through modmail

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It has to do with drawing or creating art and stuff

quiet field
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What I do is I bet more and more each time after I lose because I probably won't lose again

terse beacon
hollow peak
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That's actually gamblers falacy

regal geyser
tropic fox
quiet field
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Artisan? That isn't just the processed stuff?

hollow peak
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The more you bet, the greater your chances of losing are

tropic fox
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Can I still request it?

terse beacon
hollow peak
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Hey math can be counterintuitive sometimes

tropic fox
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I think the modmail blocked me

terse beacon
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But where the chances are fixed at 75% winning and 25% losing

hollow peak
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*losing everything

terse beacon
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My method is much more viable

regal geyser
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it's really not.

terse beacon
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I can keep going with my calculations if you want

regal geyser
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sure.

terse beacon
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The gap between the two will keep getting farther apart

hollow peak
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You probably should

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This is actually super easy to program

regal geyser
tropic fox
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How do I contact staff without the modmail?

regal geyser
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@terse beacon at what points are you increasing your bet?

tropic fox
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Can't send messages to the bot

quiet field
terse beacon
hollow peak
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No no that's not the point of gamblers falacy

regal geyser
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i'm asking you so i can program it.

regal geyser
hollow peak
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Gamblers falacy is the belief that your chances of winning increase the more you lose

regal geyser
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i.e "i've lost a lot so i have to win eventually".

terse beacon
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Now that it’s 18,000 im bumping it to 4,000

hollow peak
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Theoretically with 75% odds, you are more likely to win

regal geyser
terse beacon
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You can’t

regal geyser
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if it's just this, it takes hundreds of tries.

terse beacon
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You have to put in the numbers manually

tropic fox
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Someone help

terse beacon
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My method is incredibly difficult to be coded

hollow peak
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But if you continuously increase your bet, you also run the risk of losing all of your money

regal geyser
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not really. you're just refusing to define it at all.

terse beacon
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I described it

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Ok so

hollow peak
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Bouncer might be broken

terse beacon
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I start with 500

regal geyser
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you're describing what you're doing. what's the process? by what method are you choosing the amount to increase it by?

tropic fox
hollow peak
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Idk what you can do here, mb ping junimos to alert them to the situation?

regal geyser
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vaguely and intuitively?

terse beacon
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So i keep betting 100 until i get up to 800. At which point i go to 200, then up to 2600 i’ll start betting 500

mental lake
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QUCK HOW DO I MAKE SHANE MY BBY GIRL

terse beacon
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Depending on whether i’m confident, i’ll either bet 1/4 of my total, or 1/5 of my total

cunning silo
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nah just perfect slingshot to 1000 and then bet all and win ez

regal geyser
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you said 50 before.

tropic fox
terse beacon
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That was when you were at 284

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1/5 of that is 50

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If im at 400 i would bet 1/4 at 100

tender yacht
# tropic fox Someone help

Try to go to server setting (hold down the sdv server), go to more option, then turn on allow direct message

hollow peak
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Yeah but someone has to know that the bot is acting funky

regal geyser
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so, now it's 1/5?

hollow peak
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Ah right that could also be the case

terse beacon
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I literally just said above i would bet 1/5 or 1/4 depending on how confident i am

terse beacon
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And i keep it in that range

tropic fox
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Alright, thanks

regal geyser
hollow peak
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Bro's using nondeterministic methods nowSDVpufferchickskeleton

tropic fox
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Can't I request for other roles?

hollow peak
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What would you request for really?

tropic fox
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Jukebox junkie

hollow peak
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I guess there's also the jukebox role that only hardcore #stardrop-saloon grinders get

regal geyser
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@tropic fox i tried running your method and it just ran out of money.

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oops, not you.

tropic fox
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Bot's broken.

hollow peak
regal geyser
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@terse beacon.

hollow peak
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<@&239770080378880001> the bouncer bot is broken

terse beacon
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Sorry i was doing the calculation stuff

covert crag
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is it broken??

tropic fox
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Unping

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It was me

covert crag
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how is it broken?

tropic fox
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I forgot turn on DMS in this server

covert crag
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omg

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khdskfh no worries

cobalt hare
hollow peak
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Ok NVM sorry yall

tender yacht
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Told ya

hollow peak
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Rip

terse beacon
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I think it would work if you could code in a way for the program to ask if you want to bet 1/4 or 1/5 of your winnings

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And then if you lose it doubles your bet

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Your last bet

gaunt gale
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That would be nice

quiet field
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I know that you can craft grass starters but where do you get the recipie? I have too many animals for the hay in my natural grass to be enough 😅

cobalt hare
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i hate math for sure SDVkrobussad

hollow peak
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No you want a empirical test, that's like 100k tests

gaunt gale
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A better slider on the casino slots too

gaunt gale
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Like sliding through 100-1000

hollow peak
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That wouldn't work with you having to choose 1/4 or 1/5

tropic fox
terse beacon
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Its the best way to code in my method that i can think of

hollow peak
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Depends really

terse beacon
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Otherwise it seems impossible to code

cunning silo
# terse beacon

if this is for sdv fair it doesnt go above 9999 smh my head

hollow peak
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Why not just try both

gaunt gale
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Mobile store is so nice too, just a slider then buy

terse beacon
hollow peak
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Dude I would kill for mobile SDV shops

cunning silo
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just do literally whatever

hollow peak
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The slider is the best thing to come out of the mobile version

quiet field
gaunt gale
hollow peak
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It's not a good aesthetic but it is simply so practical

terse beacon
quiet field
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I'm tempted to buy some sugar since I haven't grown any beets

terse beacon
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Or do you put the hay in manually???

hollow peak
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Pig farm? Pig farm.

teal vapor
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mmm my grinding from th3 past couple days has been a blur when do you unlock the uh. god my brain ground to a halt. The seed maker

gaunt gale
hollow peak
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Farming lvl 9

teal vapor
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oh good lird ok

hollow peak
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Silos are just slightly more convenient hay chests

gaunt gale
terse beacon
bright vector
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i think the next farm i have is going to focus on animals. Just grow hay and take care of cows. 🙂

hollow peak
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At the cost of being able to store less

terse beacon
gaunt gale
gaunt gale
gaunt gale
terse beacon
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He uses super chickens

regal geyser
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bad strategy was successful on 708/1000 runs, with an average length of 28.1 steps to get to 9999.
good strategy was successful on 999/1000 runs, with an average length of 32.0 steps to get to 9999.
your strategy is faster when it works, but fails a significant portion of the time.

hollow peak
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Yeah that was my thought after pigs

regal geyser
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so, it's likely to overall be slower.

teal vapor
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i have no idea what direction i want to take my switch farm in tbh

terse beacon
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Im willing to take a 75% chance

regal geyser
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actually, i'm not sure about "faster when it works" either.

gaunt gale
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Most things are better than pigs

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If you’re willing to put in hundreds more hours of prep

hollow peak
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Super chicken eggs should be a loved gift just because

regal geyser
hollow peak
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Even if it is literally worthless as a gift by then

terse beacon
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Also the way you got the results is weird because if you only bet 50% then it’s almost guaranteed to work up to 9999 unless there is a string if loses right at the beginning

regal geyser
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in conclusion, your strategy is unsurpisingly worse than the mathematically optimal one.

terse beacon
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Its really not

hollow peak
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If you always bet 50% and lose until you only have one token, you bet that last token and lose it all ig

quiet field
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Alex said he threw away his old shoes instead of donating because he didn't like the idea of a weirdo wearing it 😞Why do people like this guy

regal geyser
hollow peak
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Bro you can't argue with math SDVpufferchickskeleton

tropic fox
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Doing mathematics for a betting thing is fucking crazy

regal geyser
terse beacon
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Its just almost impossible to lose only betting 50 which is why it’s at 999/1000

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50%

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Unless you lose a couple times right away in a row

regal geyser
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okay, then. what if we assume the money can't go lower than 100?

terse beacon
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What’s the starting amount?

regal geyser
terse beacon
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Sure

gaunt gale
regal geyser
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bad strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 29.5 steps to get to 9999.
good strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 28.1 steps to get to 9999.

unsurprisingly again, your one does worse.

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are you convinced yet or do we need to jump through more hoops.

terse beacon
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How is it possible to be successful every run?

regal geyser
terse beacon
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Yea

regal geyser
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and you agreed?

terse beacon
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Yea

regal geyser
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that's how.

terse beacon
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Whatever okay it works every time

regal geyser
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sure. except one is optimal and one isn't.

terse beacon
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How did you code the bad strategy?

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Is it 1/5?

regal geyser
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yes, it is 1/5.

hollow peak
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Ew is that c#

regal geyser
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no, it's lua.

cunning silo
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oh dear

terse beacon
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Try changing it to 1/4 im curious

regal geyser
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okay.

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bad strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 29.5 steps to get to 9999.
bad 1/4 strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 26.1 steps to get to 9999.
good strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 28.6 steps to get to 9999.
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oddly enough, faster.

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i wonder if that would change if the goal was more than 9999.

cunning silo
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this is very useful information

terse beacon
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I didn’t expect it to be faster ngl

cunning silo
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i definitely need 9999 star tokens

regal geyser
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don't we all?

tender mason
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Yesterday I got the 1000 iq idea to set region to Turkey, only to forget I need vpn to set it lmao

terse beacon
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Try setting the final amount to 100,000

hollow peak
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I remember something actut

cunning silo
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totally not like 2800 for stardrop + rarecrow

hollow peak
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In the Wikipedia article about Kelly criterion

regal geyser
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bad strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 53.1 steps to get to 99999.
bad 1/4 strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 49.1 steps to get to 99999.
good strategy was successful on 1000/1000 runs, with an average length of 44.9 steps to get to 99999.

it's slower if you increase the number.

hollow peak
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They mentioned about the game for getting $25 to $250

terse beacon
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Im surprised every run is succeeding tbh

regal geyser
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i made it impossible to lose.

cunning silo
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lmaooo

hollow peak
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Although the optimal betting amount was 25%, because of winning cap 12% was actually better

terse beacon
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I thought you lost if it went below 100??

cunning silo
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where are you starting anyway

terse beacon
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500

regal geyser
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so, remember a few minutes ago, when i said "so, remember a few seconds ago when i said this? and you agreed", and you agreed?

tender mason
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What strategy this is? We need yo code sv like doki doki?

cunning silo
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why 500

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smh throwing grange

terse beacon
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Its what we agreed on

hollow peak
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I guess to make it better, once you go below 100 you just reset to 100 and add a step

terse beacon
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Just say it’s a fail if it goes below 100

hollow peak
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To simulate just buying tokens

terse beacon
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Because that’s when i would buy more tokens

cunning silo
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start at 1000 because grange is easy to win

regal geyser
hollow peak
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Ah I see

terse beacon
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Make it a fail if it goes below 100

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Im curious abt that

hollow peak
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You should def add a step or smth, there's a time and monetary cost to buying tokens

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You can never truly fail at the fair so

regal geyser
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if you lose when going below 100:

bad strategy was successful on 678/1000 runs, with an average length of 50.3 steps to get to 99999.
bad 1/4 strategy was successful on 558/1000 runs, with an average length of 40.0 steps to get to 99999.
good strategy was successful on 664/1000 runs, with an average length of 40.4 steps to get to 99999.
terse beacon
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That’s pretty cool

hollow peak
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Interesting numbers I should try this by myself

terse beacon
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Guess i’ll bet half instead of 1/4 when i go for higher numbers then

regal geyser
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it's almost as if you could have reached this conclusion in some other way.

terse beacon
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Yeap. But i can’t calculate my method alongside it bc im not a coder SDVitemblobfish

regal geyser
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okay, time to stop messing around and actually go do the fair now.

terse beacon
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HAHAHAHAHA

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good luck getting 9999 tokens

regal geyser
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your "good luck" didn't do anything.

gaunt gale
terse beacon
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HAHAHAHAHA

cunning silo
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ok bet all on this one

terse beacon
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i secretly cast a hex on you

regal geyser
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true. if i was skilled i would just manipulate the rng at the start of the game.

regal geyser
terse beacon
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What would you use it for

regal geyser
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i don't know.

terse beacon
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Hmmmm

regal geyser
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i don't know what the limits of what hexes can do are, since they aren't actually real.

terse beacon
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Use your imagination

regal geyser
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anyway, L + ratio + p-q/b + witness the sheer power of statistics + seethe + cope, etc.

terse beacon
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Sad

west crane
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I like your funny words gambling man

cobalt hare
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still talking about this?

terse beacon
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We stopped already

cobalt hare
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good to know

terse beacon
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Yea i figured you’d wanna know that

hollow peak
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I tested my own program with cost of going below 100

regal geyser
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what were the results?

hollow peak
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Half sum result is 19.435
Quarter sum results is 30.5769
Fifth sum reulsts is 35.8744

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10,000 tests

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1 step penalty for falling below 100

regal geyser
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alright, let me try that.

terse beacon
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What do the numbers mean

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Steps taken to get 9999?

hollow peak
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This is betting 1/2, 1/4, and 1/5 of your tokens every time

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And its 99999

cobalt hare
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ah... whatever I'll just play Stardew

terse beacon
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But like what’s the 19.435 and stuff

hollow peak
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Half sum result is 13.6186
Quarter sum results is 20.6549
Fifth sum reulsts is 24.3222
^^ This is 9999

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Average number of steps

cunning silo
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so betting half is more efficent

terse beacon
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Ohhhhh

regal geyser
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i'm doing the same thing and i get higher step counts.

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bad strategy was successful on 10000/10000 runs, with an average length of 54.0 steps to get to 99999.
bad 1/4 strategy was successful on 10000/10000 runs, with an average length of 49.7 steps to get to 99999.
good strategy was successful on 10000/10000 runs, with an average length of 46.9 steps to get to 99999.
hollow peak
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hmm weird

cunning silo
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smh guys this was known information

regal geyser
terse beacon
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Im stubborn what can i say

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You should probably delete that though you could get warned for text walls

hollow peak
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It could be wrong

regal geyser
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    if gamble():
        total += 0.4 * total
    else:
        total -= 0.2 * total

0.4 and 0.2?

hollow peak
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Any way to put collapsible text in discord?

regal geyser
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send it as a file.

terse beacon
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Nope

hollow peak
cunning silo
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gg

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python 💪

hollow peak
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python is convenient what can I say

west crane
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Make sense

hollow peak
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not the prettiest code I've written in my life I do have to say

cunning silo
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i can't actually really code but whatever

regal geyser
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i don't like python that much, though i know opinions differ.

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it's sort of just worse lua but with more libraries.

hollow peak
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python is industry standard, so it is what I use

regal geyser
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i like lua a lot, so it's what i use.

hollow peak
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I mostly use it for other stuff tho

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fair

regal geyser
warped hamlet
#

wtf ????

cunning silo
#

so ture

regal geyser
#

hi. stardew valley is actually programming now.

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we removed the gameplay.

warped hamlet
#

I know new farmers gets off topic but how did it get so off topic yall talking about CODING

hollow peak
#

oh you did the complicated strat

regal geyser
# cunning silo so ture

"ture" is obviously a subtle reference to alan turing, which is a reference to computer science.

cunning silo
#

yeah

hollow peak
#

yeah I just simulated bets of different ratios

regal geyser
#

maybe you did something wrong.

hollow peak
#

I thought that was the strat discussed LMAO

regal geyser
#

i was just implementing exactly the thing they were saying.

brave carbon
#

Yo

regal geyser
#

in any case, we ought to get the same result for the /2 strategy.

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why is it different?

hollow peak
#

yeah I'm bad at reading classic programmer client moment haha funny ok give me a moment

brave carbon
#

What marriage candidate did you guys choose?

regal geyser
#

can you try printing all of the money values for one of the runs?

hollow peak
#

yeah I'll try that

novel thistleBOT
#

@hollow peak You leveled up to Shepherd. Wow, you've been talking a lot! Have a prettier, slightly more brag worthy, shade of blue.

regal geyser
#

wow, you now are slightly different blue.

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200, 300, 150, 225, 338, 507, 253, 126, 189, 284, 426, 639, 959, 479, 719, 1079, 539, 809, 1214, 1821, 2732, 4098, 6147, 9221, 13832, 6916, 10374, 15561, 23342, 35013, 17506, 26259, 39389, 59084, 29542, 44313, 66470, 99705 is what i get for one of the test runs.

warped hamlet
regal geyser
#

all of them are bad, of course.

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don't choose any of them.

hollow peak
#

oh wacc

bright vector
#

krobus

hearty relic
#

I have 100k G for summer, what crops should i plant? Starfruit? Blueberry? Melon?

hollow peak
#

Total is 200 and steps is 1
Total is 400 and steps is 2
Total is 800 and steps is 3
Total is 1600 and steps is 4
Total is 3200 and steps is 5
Total is 6400 and steps is 6
Total is 12800 and steps is 7
Half sum result is 7.0

regal geyser
#

i think you did something wrong.

hollow peak
#

something like that

regal geyser
#

yes, you did something wrong.

hollow peak
#

I might have actually

regal geyser
#

you can't double your entire money unless you're wagering literally all of it.

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if you're wagering only half, you can 1.5 your money or 0.5 it.

tender yacht
hearty relic
#

Oooo

#

Okk

hollow peak
#

ah yeah my shortcut strat is screwing with me

regal geyser
#

i'm glad making my program overly general and verbose paid off.

hollow peak
#

Half sum result is 32.9439
Quarter sum results is 47.9507
Fifth sum reulsts is 57.0717 (updated)

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this is start 100, get to 9999

tender yacht
#

Remind me again what's this coding talk about?

hollow peak
#

betting at the fair

regal geyser
#

how about 99999?

west crane
#

Caps out 9999

regal geyser
#

we know.

hollow peak
#

Half sum result is 50.6154
Quarter sum results is 72.7303
Fifth sum reulsts is 85.5593

regal geyser
#

i got 47.1.

hollow peak
#

hmm suspicious

regal geyser
#

and always get similar results on subsequent runs.

hollow peak
#

and you were doing 1000 tests right

regal geyser
#

10000 tests.

hollow peak
#

blame the python random module?

regal geyser
#

i was doing 1000 before, but i started doing 10000 when you did.

regal geyser
hollow peak
#

I was joking, its probably a problem with either of our codes

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or both

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oh right I did the 100 and steps +1 after losing thing

regal geyser
#

so did i.

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oh, i think i'm omitting the last step.

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so, actually my results are probably around 48, depending on how you're doing it. it's still too far off though.

hollow peak
#

Im only getting 48.6 after turning off the penalty for losing

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here's my updated code actually

regal geyser
#

suspicious.

hollow peak
regal geyser
#

i'd go try to debug this, but i also want to get back to playing stardew valley since i sort of forgot to do that.

hollow peak
#

LOL

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dang it if only I could understand lua i would be able to figure it out

regal geyser
#

lua isn't that difficult to understand.

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just imagine python, except instead of python it's lua.

hollow peak
#

yes

quiet field
#

Should I use all my fiber to make grass starters? I need hay but I'm worried I'll not have fiber in the future

onyx citrus
#

In any situation place fences on top of grass starters to create feed spots.

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You don’t need too many.

quiet field
#

I was wondering why my cows never ate the grass but it seems like it's because they don't travel too far for it, most of my grass is near the coop but when I plant it beside the barn, they eat the grass right away. That'll make it a lot easier to feed them because before I had to scythe up a lot

quiet field
quiet field
#

My loom just gave me double cloth, lucky because I thought I needed 3 cloth to make a mill but I actually need 4

regal geyser
#

is the seed reprocessor profitable? the wiki says you get approximately 2 seeds back on average, but don't crops often sell for more than 2x their seed value, and more with further processing?

cunning silo
#

some will give more money when seed makered

tender yacht
#

Seed maker is mostly used only for getting ancient fruit seed

nimble storm
#

It's probably good with crops that can grow multiple times like ancient fruit, star fruit, blueberries, stuff like that

cunning silo
#

like for cranberry, you can seed maker (75g) for average 2 seed (2x60g)

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i think also work for corn/blueberry

#

probably only useful in niche scenario though

tawny canyon
#

yall im watching the dungeons and dragons movie without actually knowing anything about the game itself is this fine?

nimble storm
#

I don't think this is the right discord server for that question

cunning silo
#

i mean you can talk offtopic preferably not here though

cobalt hare
#

does anybody know how the best way to get iridium is so i can go to ginger island?

nimble storm
#

You should probably spoiler that

cobalt hare
#

well oops do you know how

nimble storm
#

Probably ||Skull caverns||

novel thistleBOT
#

@nimble storm You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

cobalt hare
#

ok

nimble storm
#

OH.

tender yacht
cunning silo
#

yes

tender yacht
cobalt hare
#

oh ok

nimble storm
#

I'm getting married to Abigail on the first day of winter, I'm pretty hyped for it

tender yacht
#

That's for spoiler free and all post-CC content talk

flat brook
#

Good morning

tender yacht
serene elm
#

Morning

quiet field
#

After weeks of farming, I finally killed enough dust sprites for the burglar ring, but I have to wait until 2 pm to get it. Why do they the last place to open anyway? Shouldn't adventurers be up bright and early SDVpufferglare

regal geyser
#

it's not like the caves care for the time.

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also, maybe they are up bright and early, adventuring instead of standing around in the adventurers guild.

cunning silo
#

they're not

keen ledge
#

i just pet my animals and instead of the little aSDVemoteheart they did a aSDVemoteowo , is that better or worse? 😭

cunning silo
#

better

#

in reality its the same but

#

it means that you've placed something in that coop/barn

regal geyser
#

coal is being a big issue for me.

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i'm going through the crystalline section of the mines, and i've gotten more iron than i can even smelt with the coal i got from it.

#

is there no better way other than buying it or the charcoal kiln?

fossil lion
#

Farm dust sprites (the little black/dark blue creatures that come in bulk)

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only other way I remember to get good amounts of coal

subtle wadi
#

Or buy from clint

nimble storm
#

What do I do with a Golden Pumpkin

regal geyser
#

that's literally what i've been doing.

subtle wadi
#

Clint’s the fastest tbh

regal geyser
# regal geyser

i got an entire 13 coal from an entire day of going through that section of the mines.

subtle wadi
#

Farming coal will take a long time SDVpuffersob

regal geyser
fossil lion
#

Communist Valley

subtle wadi
#

True yeah…

regal geyser
#

it'd be really expensive right now for me to buy it in bulk.

fossil lion
#

increased luck also increases drop chances from mobs right?

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If yes then just go to mine when you got max daily luck and grind dust sprites by switching floors with the elevator

cunning silo
#

no it doesnt

quick olive
#

Hey, to double check, how much money would I want before splurging on an Iridium Rod?

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Currently at 8.3k.

fossil lion
#

rip

nimble storm
#

Should I save all my pumpkins for making juice or just the normal rarity ones? (I have 13 kegs, 244 normal pumpkins, 135 silver, and 95 gold)

quick olive
#

Gonna have crops coming up soon. In summer, day 8

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so I'll have a burst of income.

fossil lion
#

Kegs need 4 days to turn pumpkins into juice so you gotta calculate how long until you get the next thing you want to put into the kegs

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but overall putting in kegs is always worth it if you can spare them for the time

nimble storm
#

I'll just sell my silvers and golds, The 200+ pumpkins will probably occupy my kegs until I find something better

fossil lion
nimble storm
#

Then yeah, that'll last

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Cause winter starts tomorrow, so I just need them to last till next summer

#

Well, it'll be close enough

#

Also, Is there any use to the Golden pumpkin that you get from Spirits eve?

quick olive
#

Um... any input?

fossil lion
#

Then it's better to simply concentrate on making cash with the farm

quick olive
#

more considering it to use the dressed bobber.

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and the bait.

#

still have stuff I need to wait on with the farm before any money can be made on it.

fossil lion
#

if you don't have any tool/building/backpack upgrade you really want rn then I'd say go for it

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And if you fish often enough to make it worth it

quick olive
#

I have the first Backpack upgrade right now.

regal geyser
#

explosive ammo. i've heard good things.

cunning silo
#

true

regal geyser
#

is it very hard to get earlygame, though?

quick olive
#

also, bronze watering can, axe, and pickaxe is coming in soon.

#

that a good position to be in.

regal geyser
#

oh, that's expensive.

#

3 coal per 5 explosive ammo.

nimble storm
#

I think you can buy it from adventurers guild

#

Now that you've unlocked the recipe

#

Could be dwarf tho

dark solstice
#

The adventurers guild is correct

regal geyser
#

i'd rather buy the coal from clint and make it myself.

#

though i'm not actually going to do either of those things, since both of those are too expensive.

nimble storm
#

I wasn't aware of how much it costed, I'm at combat level 7 myself

quick olive
#

What are fast ways of raising foraging?

#

I'm at level 5, one off from getting lightning rods.

dark solstice
#

It depends on your amount of gold vs. your amount of ores and coal

dark solstice
quick olive
#

done a lot of that.

dark solstice
#

Grow some wild seeds if you have the resources I suppose

quick olive
#

mixed seeds, you mean?

dark solstice
#

If you need to wait for the trees to grow back

#

no seasonal seeds

quick olive
#

I mean, I still have some

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I can probably work on some when I get b ack.

#

just been a little hesitant due to the constant storms since hte trees divert stuff away from my crops

nimble storm
#

Today is a good day.

dark solstice
#

You could craft these two

regal geyser
#

huh, these are cheap.

dark solstice
#

Hopefully it's not yet Autumn

quick olive
#

It's the 8th.

regal geyser
#

also, i'm in the same situation actually.

dark solstice
#

8th Summer?

quick olive
#

Yeah.

#

I mean

#

8th day of summer

dark solstice
#

Wild Seeds (Summer) isn't that bad

#

but depends if you want to use your energy/sprinklers for them

quick olive
#

I use half my energy for the current farm setup right now.

#

no energy upgrades and just bronze watering can.

dark solstice
#

And the other half?

fossil lion
#

I got to level 10 foraging in winter y1 cause I mostly used seasonal seeds

#

Actually maybe it even was autumn Thinkquil

quick olive
dark solstice
#

I would suggest get more quality sprinklers for your wild seeds, but that's just me

rain furnace
#

I'm going to my second save, I plan to choose Joja Market this time, is it good?

fossil lion
#

also with the membership, seeds in Joja market will cost same price as Pierre which means you have a place to buy seeds from Wednesday

regal geyser
#

what should i grow in spring?

#

the obvious answer seems to be "cauliflowers", but they take exactly 12 days to grow which is really inconvenient.

#

that means i can't sell them in time for the festival to get strawberry seeds.

fossil lion
#

Potatoes theoretically give the best $/d value

regal geyser
#

i'm interested in the best sell value/cost ratio.

fossil lion
#

well until strawberries

regal geyser
#

i don't think that potatoes are the optimal choice.

#

i think that garlic might be.

#

consider this: the ratio is 1.5, and they take 4 days to grow.

nimble storm
#

Am I ready for ||Skull Caverns||? (There's no items behind the mayo machine recipe)

regal geyser
#

potatoes have a slightly higher ratio of 1.6, but i can grow garlic 2 times before the festival.

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(6/4)^2 is 2.25, higher than potatoes.

#

am i correct?

fossil lion
regal geyser
#

cauliflowers are out of the question.

fossil lion
#

oh for the festival

regal geyser
#

potatoes take longer to grow compared to garlic.

#

yes.

fossil lion
#

what day was the festival again?

regal geyser
#

13th.

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if i planted cauliflowers on the 1st, they would grow by the 13th but i'd be unable to sell them.

fossil lion
#

then I'd suggest potatoes first and then Garlic when you don't have time for potatoes

#

6 days + 4 days

regal geyser
#

12 days. i'd be unable to sell the garlic.

fossil lion
#

6+4=10

regal geyser
#

true.

#

i might end up with significantly more garlic than i have capacity for.

dark solstice
#

Are you in Yr2 already?

regal geyser
#

no.

#

i am in fall in year 1. i am simply planning ahead.

dark solstice
#

Right

regal geyser
#

i suppose i could try making a lot of sprinklers during the winter, though it still sounds hard.

dark solstice
#

Have you unlocked the Greenhouse yet?

regal geyser
#

no, and i won't be able to until fall of year 2.

dark solstice
#

Oh

#

I was gonna suggesting grow some strawberries with the Garden Pot and turn the strawberries into seed during winter, but eh

regal geyser
#

i don't even have the seed processor.

dark solstice
#

Oof okay

regal geyser
#

so, i'm unsure what the best strategy is here.

#

if i do potatoes -> garlic, that works, but that's a lot of garlic.

fossil lion
regal geyser
#

maybe garlic -> potatoes is a better strategy. multiplication is commutative but there will be less garlic.

#

spring 1 is going to be a busy time.

#

well, i suppose i have one day of freedom.

#

what's peoples' usual strategy for this?

fossil lion
#

the optimizers usually just grind enough money y1 by fishing to buy tons of strawberries y1

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and then grow strawberries y2

regal geyser
#

it's far too late for that.

cunning silo
#

so true

fossil lion
#

That's why in your case either Garlic+Potatoes or 2x Potatoes with speedgro+

regal geyser
#

it might have to be garlic + potatoes.

regal geyser
#

though i can't fathom exactly how i'm going to plant so much garlic in 2 days.

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or get that many sprinklers in 28.

hollow escarp
#

I’d personally just grow Rhubarb/Cauli lol.

regal geyser
#

or get enough fertilizer for anything.

hollow escarp
#

I can’t imagine growing that much Garlic

dark solstice
#

lol

regal geyser
#

well, i can't use cauliflowers since i won't be able to sell them by the festival.

cunning silo
#

speedgro

regal geyser
#

not happening.

#

definitely not in time, anyway.

#

and if i bought it from pierre, i'd lose more money than i'd make from the cauliflowers.

dark solstice
#

What about Deluxe Speedgro from ||Sandy||?

regal geyser
#

i don't have the 25000g bundle.

dark solstice
#

oh dear

regal geyser
#

also, that would still be really unprofitable and i'd be better off growing pretty much anything else.

dark solstice
#

Hmm...

quick olive
#

Gotta get more blueberries now.

#

frekaing storm

#

at least tomorrow is clear.

dark solstice
#

You know @regal geyser If you can get Farming Lv10 and get Agriculturist, Rhubarb could be quite viable

regal geyser
dark solstice
#

Shame

regal geyser
#

at best i'll end up at farming level 8 or 9 by the end of fall.

#

and i don't think i can do much in winter.

dark solstice
#

Well then it really depends how much gold and sprinkler you have then

#

If you can buy Deluxe Speedgro that would give you one more harvest on strawberry

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which means an extra 120g profit

regal geyser
#

but it costs 80g per deluxe speed-gro.

dark solstice
#

yes, that's why it depends how much gold you have on spring 1

#

oh, and you haven't unlocked bus yet?

regal geyser
#

by the end of fall i'll have harvested all of my pumpkins, so i'll probably have a lot.

#

no, i haven't.

regal geyser
#

i'm honestly not sure what to do with regards to making money after fall.

dark solstice
#

It's either ||Skull Cavern|| or growing wild winter seeds

regal geyser
#

well, i can't do the first thing because skill issue. how do you get wild winter seeds?

cunning silo
#

so true

dark solstice
#

You will need Foraging Lv 7 for the wild winter seed recipe

regal geyser
#

well, that's not happening probably.

dark solstice
#

Hmm I guess there's always the option to earn profit from the animals

#

like making mayo and cheese

regal geyser
#

i do have animals.

#

only 4 cows and 4 chickens, though.

dark solstice
#

Better than Duck and Goat probably

#

What's your Foraging Lvl right now?

regal geyser
dark solstice
#

Hmm

#

Got an Iron Axe yet?

regal geyser
#

yes.

dark solstice
#

Well go to the secret wood and chop those stump for a total of 150 Foraging XP every day

regal geyser
#

oh, huh. i'm now foraging level 6.

#

well, neat. it's fall 21, though. i don't know if there's time.

#

1050 foraging xp isn't enough.

hybrid remnant
#

I can't find Gold ore

regal geyser
#

floor 80+.

dark solstice
#

You should be able to get another 210 foraging XP harvesting those 30 winter seeds from the bundle at the very least

hybrid remnant
dark solstice
#

So you should be able to keep yourself busy at least for half the winter? Maybe?

hybrid remnant
#

Wt. I am a villager
:/

dark solstice
#

Er I am talking to Heav?

rough siren
#

i havent played sdv for the past week is this a new record

#

am i finally in stardew valley addiction recovery

dark solstice
#

Sounds sad

rough siren
#

it very much so consumed my life for a solid 2 weeks

fossil lion
#

haven't played stardew for a quarter year cause I was waiting for smapi on Android becoming 1.5 compatible but I'm thinking about just getting the PC version

regal geyser
#

hmm.

rough siren
#

id defo say pc > mobile but also mobile ports r cheaper usually so i see why so many ppl play mobile

regal geyser
#

i think i'll have over 40000g by spring 1.

dark solstice
#

and the number of sprinkler?

regal geyser
#

can i really plant over 1000 garlic in 2 days?

fossil lion
#

I play mobile port cause I had no PC when I got it

regal geyser
fossil lion
regal geyser
#

i'll need 125 by spring 1. this is intractible.

#

just the 375 coal requirement alone is really, really hard.

#

hmm. what should i do?

dark solstice
#

how about buy the 25000g bundle? lol

regal geyser
#

well, i don't have 25000g yet, but i will soon.

#

but what then? i think i'm unlikely to be able to do much even then.

#

even if i unlock and craft iridium sprinklers, it's not like i'll have battery packs.

dark solstice
#

I wouldn't bother with watering so much crops, so...

regal geyser
#

what do you think i should do in spring 1, then? not plant garlic?

rough siren
#

or,

dark solstice
#

I will try to mine as much coal, iron, gold in the winter first

rough siren
#

what year are u?

regal geyser
dark solstice
#

and see how many quality sprinkler I can have

rough siren
#

jst buy the resources lol

regal geyser
rough siren
#

its cheapest in y1

regal geyser
#

it's really not cheap at all.

fossil lion
#

it gets more expensive y2

rough siren
#

it goes up during y2

regal geyser
#

i know.

#

i could not afford 125 sprinkler's worth of resources, even by year 1 prices.

#

and even if i could, i'd never afford the crops after.

#

i'm not lategame. i don't have unlimited money.

rough siren
regal geyser
#

i know that, obviously.

#

they just don't spawn enough.

fossil lion
rough siren
#

yeah. just keep resetting the floors

regal geyser
#

that's what i've been doing.

#

it's still so slow.

#

i get somewhere from 2 to 15 coal per entire day doing that.

rough siren
#

sometimes progress is slow. your best best is fish a shitton if you have a high enough level imo, get 10k +, and just buy resources before y1 is over

gaunt light
#

is there a way to upgrade my sprinkler 4 tiles isnt enough 😫

fossil lion
gaunt light
#

hmmm

regal geyser
#

have you seen the prices?

#

10k would buy you almost nothing.

rough siren
gaunt light
#

oooo

#

im guessing those cost more copper and iron tho

#

cant afford that!!

regal geyser
#

the quality sprinkler costs iron, gold and refined quartz.

gaunt light
#

😢

rough siren
#

the 24 tile costs iridium, gold, and battery packs

regal geyser
#

they're not very difficult to get once you're at that point.

gaunt light
#

i guess so

regal geyser
#

though i need 125 which is actually kind of difficult.

nimble storm
#

They are

gaunt light
nimble storm
#

I'm at that point, iri and battery packs are a nightmare to get

cobalt hare
#

125 sprinklers at year one?

nimble storm
#

Mostly cause I didn't think about battery packs until near the end of fall

rough siren
gaunt light
cobalt hare
fossil lion
nimble storm
fossil lion
#

my record was 4 storms without totems in summer

gaunt light
sly barn
#

I didn't like mining until opening all my type of geode in my lucky day

rough siren
nimble storm
#

Oh God, it's floor one and Im at half health

dark solstice
#

Luck has no effects on opening geode though

rough siren
#

luck doesnt effect geodes actually

fossil lion
sly barn
#

lmao I got scammed

gaunt light
#

how so?

rough siren
#

i just realized i said rpg instead of rng LMAOOO no one saw that

fossil lion
#

he wasted his time on the lucky day opening geodes

sly barn
#

thought it's thing depends on your luck

nimble storm
#

I enter the ||Skull caverns|| and instantly there were 5 ||serpents|| surrounding the ladder

slow kestrel
#

Guys how do i buy multiple things at once? Like shift + left click is buy 5 , what are the other buy more options?

rough siren
nimble storm
dark solstice
#

Think it's Ctrl + Shift + Left click is 25

slow kestrel
#

Ah thanks

sly barn
dark solstice
#

And holding the right click for contious buying

sly barn
#

okay I'm opening all of it tomorrow

rough siren
#

i couldnt live without my mods i hate checking the tv and ui info suite tells me every day the luck automatically LMAO

sly barn
#

can't use mods, I'm on compatibility mode 😦

#

or can I?

rough siren
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ahhh

cobalt hare
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just put your tv next to your bed

fossil lion
strange fulcrum
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does the trash bear not accept iridium quality stuffs

regal geyser
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if i'm not going to be making 125 sprinklers, what should i be doing on the 1st of spring?

fossil lion
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have fun? goosip

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You could start getting towards a deluxe coop/barn

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or focus on the cc

dark solstice
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Urgh why is my trash bear not appearing? Is it because of the festival?

cobalt hare
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rain?

dark solstice
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obviously no rain on festival

regal geyser
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strawberries are money.

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do you think i should plant my strawberries on year 3 or year 2?

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if i plant them on year 3, i can just plant cauliflowers twice on year 2 instead.

cobalt hare
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you can go to the festival and buy more on year 2

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for year 3

regal geyser
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yes, this is what i was implying.

cobalt hare
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yeah then just plant strawberries twice since you already have the seeds

gusty gale
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I just made alot of gates instead of fences SDVpufferwaaah

strange fulcrum
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guyss

gusty gale
pearl orchid
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Im so bored

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anyone wanna make a co op together

strange fulcrum
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does trash bear not accept iridium quality stuffs

gusty gale
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Just lemme finish up something on my farm

pearl orchid
pearl orchid
strange fulcrum
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how many points do i need to be able to send photos here

tender mason
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ive did it

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i bought sdv

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how and when to coop

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after day 30 or sth

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can i just host a farm

bright vector
tender mason
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anyone wanna join now i dont want it empty from start

regal geyser
bright vector
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^ good place to check out

tender mason
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Do i exist and load again to get info of my farm

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oh nvm got it

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FF3ZZ1K9QVM

ashen flume
tender mason
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do i post this this on multiplayer lfg

ashen flume
ashen flume
strange fulcrum
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looks like a lot of effort tho

ashen flume
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Its not THAT long tbh

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Its all about minutes and messages sent

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I think theres more info on it somewhere in #roles

tender mason
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why is there an hour wait

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i just deleted my first comment bc missend

ashen flume
crimson zephyr
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I wonder what we did last night, hmm

fossil lion
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You watched the lord of the rings trilogy

strange fulcrum
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my trash bear asked for a type of fish but idk which one it is from the little icon bcs there's no dialogue

ashen flume
strange fulcrum
strange fulcrum
ashen flume
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Yep

strange fulcrum
crimson zephyr
pearl orchid
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do you mind me hoppin on?

cobalt hare
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i need tons of iridium fr

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but im not prepared enough..

gusty gale
pearl orchid
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Hello

tender mason
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come join

pearl orchid
pearl orchid
tropic fox
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FINALLY

cobalt hare
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I'm just gonna farm some hardwood in my free time SDVpufferfish

tropic fox
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I finished 2 cc bundles

tender mason
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? i gave invite only mode

tropic fox
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minecarts and quarry are now unlocked

cobalt hare
pearl orchid
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i tried in both lan and enter code

cobalt hare
tropic fox
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might be a good place to get mining levels up without having to deal with monsters

tender mason
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painings can we talk in joja mart vc

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if ur okay with it

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maybe ill screenshare if im doing sth wrong

pearl orchid
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hop on

tender mason
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wait im suppresed there why

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nvm how do iacces chat ingame

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press c or sth

tropic fox
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you're not yet lvl 5

pearl orchid
regal geyser
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it's going to take me so long.

cobalt hare
regal geyser
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i think it's the burglar ring or whatever.

cobalt hare
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ahh.... aight thx. might hunt for that too

drifting trench
ashen flume
tough sinew
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How to auto water plants in the greenhouse? Apparently sprinklers don’t work there

cobalt hare
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they do work there SDVpufferthinkblob

tough sinew
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They do?

cobalt hare
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did you just put them up?

tough sinew
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Then why hasn’t my sprinkler going on

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No, I put them up a day before I slept in the game

cobalt hare
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if so, you gotta wait until the morning cause that's when they water crops

tough sinew
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I did, they didn’t water them

cobalt hare
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do you have a screenshot by any chance?

tough sinew
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I had to manually water them, so a screenshot won’t really work

cobalt hare
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ahh, I see. which sprinkler did you use?

tough sinew
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The 2nd upgrade

cobalt hare
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so the quality one. did you put it so that it surrounds 8 crops?

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!sprinkler

tough sinew
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Yes I did

cobalt hare
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hard to say why it's not working then SDVpufferthinkblob

tough sinew
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bug?

cobalt hare
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you can always check out the sprinkler layout on the wiki page for greenhouse for reference

tough sinew
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Alr

cobalt hare
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might be a bug, honestly idk. I was asking questions to make sure it's not a human error so to say