now what?
#archived-modded-support
umbral mica
naive drum
click the green Save and Parse Log and then you'll get a webpage
and put the link in here
naive drum
also, at least some of your mods are loading, and if you're expecting a new farm map from SVE do note that you have to install it separately - yep, that one
you didnt install all of SVE's dependencies - it needs pyTK, TMXL, and JsonAssets installed to load
all your other mods are loading, including a few of SVE's parts, but most of SVE's parts need at least one of PyTK, TMXL, or JsonAssets
umbral mica
i thought i installed all of those though?
naive drum
looks like you didnt
keen crow
Missed PyTk, JSON Assets and SpaceCore
naive drum
JSON Assets: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1720
(the log has links but i don't know if your browser lets you do the rightclick a highlighted link to get "open link/open in new tab/open in new window" thing firefox does)
keen crow
They're on Chrome, it does
naive drum
SVE uses a lot of frameworks because it's so huge
once you've installed SVE + all its dependencies you can install the majority of other mods without needing new dependencies
umbral mica
so basically, when i try to add the mods to the mod folder, the other mod zips install them into its own zip, like i cant put it in the mods folder separately
naive drum
...?????? what are you trying to do, with screenshots
are you installing with mod manager? because Dont
umbral mica
like now that i have downloaded the other mods, i need to put them in the mod folder correct?
naive drum
yep!
and i'm...not sure what you mean by "the other mod zips install them into its own zip"
naive drum
screenshot please?
umbral mica
i would have to video it somehow
keen crow
Right click zip, click extract here... are you doing that or something else?
naive drum
im trying to figure out what you could possibly mean by "it doesnt go into its own"
naive drum
is that winrar
umbral mica
mhm
naive drum
just open and drag
upper ember
I use WinRAR and I have.. no idea what you're doing
You right click and then hit "extract here"
keen crow
They're opening the zip itself and not extracting
naive drum
oh! if you're already doing the drag it in thing, make sure it is not highlighting existing mod folders
keen crow
You can either do it by opening the zip and then dragging that folder out, or just literally right click the zip and select extract here
umbral mica
oh! if you're already doing the drag it in thing, make sure it is *not* highligh...
exactly, whenever i try to put it somewhere it does that
lunar cipher
Just right-click on the zip and extract it, like everyone else has said
keen crow
If you're having problems that way, just do the other way we've said ... multiple times now. Place the zip in the mods folder, right click, extract here
naive drum
Alternatively, move the mouse so it's not on top of an existing folder
E.G. to the left of the folders
or to the right if it's big enough
(its big enough)
umbral mica
ok i did it now
undone gull
Hey, can i have a question about MP problem?
umbral mica
what do i do now?
naive drum
the areas with green line/scribble in them are never considered to be part of the subfolders
launch game again addy!
umbral mica
mk.
naive drum
note: you have no farm map replacers installed
so all the changes will be outside the farm
umbral mica
who me?
naive drum
yeah you
umbral mica
ill just have to install those in a few minutes, if i can finally get this to work then.
naive drum
sometimes people come in here like "my mods didn't load :(" and they have SVE installed, no other content mods, and expected a farm map change because SVE has optional downloads for maps that replace the Standard farm
and they didnt install the optional replacers and their mods loaded perfectly but they didnt realize the farm map shown in some SVE screenshots isnt part of the main SVE download
umbral mica
so i guess it didnt work again.
naive drum
?
umbral mica
also, i dont think this is normal
naive drum
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
naive drum
that looks like the Content Patcher part of SVE didnt load but everything else did
lunar cipher
Addy, if you're having this much trouble installing SVE, I'd suggest starting with something smaller and easier to install
naive drum
(you picked a relatively hard mod to install for your first one!)
lunar cipher
Come back & try SVE later once you're more familiar with modding
late nebula
(Nevermind that SVE makes itself needlessly confusing by including general prerequisite mods in the zip file. -_-)
gaunt gust
for some reason, I found that the ModDrop version of SVE didn't do that
but the Nexus one did
the spring_z_Victor thing
lunar cipher
Undocumented prereqs, at that 😒
umbral mica
ok i guess
naive drum
the spring_z_victor thing is the content patcher bit failing to load
umbral mica
could i keep all the other mods tho?
naive drum
yeah
gaunt gust
SVE was kind of a pain to get right. Ridgeside is significantly easier.
naive drum
pretty much all the mods you have right now are framework mods, which make it much easier for other mods to do things
umbral mica
yeah i think i just wont use mods
naive drum
addy what went wrong this time
umbral mica
they literally dont go into the game
naive drum
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
umbral mica
it could be because of the mods im installing
but i literally dont know at this point
naive drum
can you please provide more information, like what mods you're trying to install and your log?
umbral mica
here in the top right corner are the main mods i have been trying to install
https://smapi.io/log/6f3d998cf5f74666bc8f7afffa1f3c3e here is the log
naive drum
it could be because of the mods im installing
you still have SVE in there
umbral mica
do i ?
naive drum
yep, and you're still missing JsonAssets
umbral mica
oh i see it now
naive drum
Item Spawner is opened by pressing I, Cheats Menu by pressing P
naive drum
i think maybe Rustic Country Town Interior needs you to pick an option in its config.json?
and either way it seems like it might only recolour the actual town building interiors - not the farmhouse - at least by default
aaaand i think you have to buy the halo from the le halo mod
gaunt gust
aaaand i think you have to buy the halo from the le halo mod
You have to at least buy the Mirror from Pierre's
umbral mica
oof oh well forget about those mods, these mods are sick 😏
naive drum
so yeah, aside from SVE, all your mods are loading just fine and working as intended
atomic swift
though do make sure to go through your mod configs and make sure none of the hotkeys overlap.
when i added mods i had to adjust a few because they all wanted to use h and u
naive drum
addy has only 3 mods that have hotkeys
umbral mica
im abusing my powers with these mods
undone gull
can i have a help with mods and multiplayer?
lunar cipher
!ask
native dragonBOT
Ask your question or describe your issue here, and someone will help if they can!
naive drum
sure
undone gull
Like 2 months ago we with a friend start a game with a SVE
it works fine till this point
Now my friend have a big desync
Like if he joining the game
naive drum
!log from every player
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
undone gull
Can't give log from friend
naive drum
well you need your friend to send a log
umbral mica
OMG
naive drum
sudden desyncs can be caused by having different mod versions
umbral mica
well you need your friend to send a log
you helped me
undone gull
but here's mine https://smapi.io/log/7a5999c0a40f4aa9b8e6fb2e4d4d1ac0
naive drum
looks normal hedgehog
undone gull
sudden desyncs can be caused by having different mod versions
Literally same mod folder
umbral mica
the rustic interior worked for other places except my farm
naive drum
wait, no, it doesnt. where's the rest of your SVE
you've got some bits of SVE but not all of it
looks like an update gone horribly wrong or something
undone gull
funny thing, i've updated only smapi and libraries
even reinstall all of that
Still that problem
naive drum
are you using a mod manager?
naive drum
okay that's...really odd
you're getting all the folders out of the SVE zip right?
and your antivirus isnt eating them?
undone gull
Nope
Doesn't have any anti
😄
even windows one didn't say anything
And now we have that i live for example in 17 00. when my friend's time is 11 30
naive drum
yeah sometimes they dont say anything they just grab a completely random innocent file and put it in the quarantine zone
but yeah, we really need your friend's log, and for you to download a fresh install of SVE and install that
naive drum
theres no evidence the code parts of SVE are existing on your machine at all
and SVE will not work properly without that code, and if your friend has a complete SVE install and you don't you will get problems.
like desyncs etc.
undone gull
just a quick question
Do i need to pull thin folders in the main mods folder
Or they should stay in SVE mod folder
naive drum
Can you show the file path to those folders?
undone gull
naive drum
Yeah, you can leave them there
atomic swift
pretty sure you just stick the zip in the mod folder and say "extract here", then move the zip away if you want to keep clutter down. that's what i do.
undone gull
you've got *some* bits of SVE but not *all* of it
And what's wrong with SVE files
I know i don't install Anti-Social NPC
But every thing else i did
naive drum
in your log, the Farm Type Manager, Content Patcher and JsonAssets bits are showing up, but the actual SVE Code Mod isnt
the one in the StardewValleyExpanded folder
undone gull
maaaaybe it's translations fault
naive drum
no empty folder warning, no missing manifest warning, no ignored loose files message in the trace log level - just a totally absent code mod
late nebula
Did you download from a translation instead of the SVE mod page?
late nebula
I would check to see if anyone else has had issues with the translation then.
undone gull
I mean i try install w/o trans
fathom trench
Have you done a reinstall of SVE
late nebula
Might be out of date and end up messing things up.
undone gull
Have you done a reinstall of SVE
And even reinstall all of the mods and smapi
I don't have any problem other MP desync in time
and interactions from other players
naive drum
where are you getting SVE from?
undone gull
nexus
naive drum
try moddrop maybe
late nebula
Yeah others have had issues with the Nexus version for some reason.
naive drum
its probably nexus's fault
undone gull
the worst thing i can't ask a friend for a test rn
loud stone
Can someone help me to unpack xnb?im android,i cant use xnbcli
trim depot
Hey guys, looking to add some mods that will affect junimo-related parts of the game, any ideas as to what i should pick? lemme get the mods i was looking at
hm
loud stone
You mean better junimo?
trim depot
theres a few
probably not going to use junimos accept cash
trim depot
meep
gaunt gust
Which uses CC to spawn Junimos that run around Cindersap
IT does, sometimes, confuse me when I'm fishing
but otherwise, fun to see them around more often
trim depot
i want some junimo mods currently since i just completed my first room and now i dont want to leave the cc because of this lil guy
;-;
gaunt gust
well, seems like Forest Juminos may be for you
they'll be around in the Forest permanently
very cute
trim depot
was actually looking for a mod that added a junimo buddy to follow me around the map.
most of the mods i found dont seem to have the grey junimo color.
bronze light
if i want to remove a mod i just delete the mod from the mod folder right??
gaunt gust
depends on the mod
lament prairie
Best practice is to check mod description
bronze light
wym
lament prairie
On Nexus (or wherever you got it)
There should be information in the description part of the mod page
Frequently, this includes helpful information like "what do I need to do before uninstalling"
Or "which mods is this compatible with"
Or "what versions of the game will this work on?"
bronze light
thanks
lament prairie
Without knowing anything whatsoever about the mod you're using probably you just remove from the folder, but I really can't say for sure, and you probably shouldn't listen to my random guesses
bronze light
you've used nexus mods right?
in a mod i downloaded there are some option files which im guessing are other additional mods related to it
if i wanted to download them would i click mod manager download or manual download?
lament prairie
You can just go to the files tab, scroll to the one you want, and hit the download button there. You'll want manual download, then slow download (most likely).
lament prairie
What kind of mod is giving you a bat file???
That's definitely beyond my ability to know things about
lunar cipher
if i wanted to download them would i click mod manager download or manual downlo...
You shouldn't use Nexus's mod manager for Stardew mods anyway, it's known to be buggy and it deletes parts of files occasionally
lunar cipher
if its a bat file do i have to run it?
This is actually answered in the mod description
bronze light
man but i just started a world with nexus mod manager
trim depot
i'm using vortex.
lunar cipher
It might work okay if you intend to use the exact same mod list for the entirety of your save, but if you want to be able to add or remove mods later on, you'll be saving yourself a lot of time & stress by reinstalling them manually
trim depot
so far so good
Also, i downloaded this off of nexus today, says its a 7Z file and idk if i just throw it into vortex or not
lunar cipher
Mate, please don't. Vortex being buggy with Stardew mods is a known and documented problem that has been reported to Nexus. Telling people "but it works for me!" isn't really helpful and it's just going to cause issues further down the line
trim depot
Mate, please don't. Vortex being buggy with Stardew mods is a known and document...
i'm not recommending it at all tho.
i think that 50% of the mods i have dont even work with vortex, but i just keep using it since i prefer keeping my mods in a single place that lets me toggle them on/off.
gaunt gust
Also, i downloaded this off of nexus today, says its a 7Z file and idk if i just...
betting 7Zip.
lunar cipher
You can do that with a manual installation though. Just rename the mod folder to have a . in the front (eg. .NPC Map Locations) and it'll stop SMAPI from loading it
trim depot
soon as people start bulk producing mods for SDV on curseforge i'm instantly switching to it.
lunar cipher
'Bulk producing'? 🤨 You mean modpacks?
On the whole, the Stardew modding community really isn't keen on modpacks
trim depot
no, i just mean increasing the amount of addons from 50.
since i went to search on SDV curseforge
i only found 20-30 addons
Why does the SDV modding community rely on nexus mods anyways?
thought they would've gone to curseforge.
lunar cipher
Because Nexus is better known than Curseforge, probably 🤷♂️ Curseforge is mostly known for MC mods
trim depot
thats definently true.
guess its just me literally thinking curseforge is the most well-known mod manager in the business.
gaunt gust
None of them are aptitude or pip, really
lunar cipher
Hate to break it to you, but it's really really not the most well-known 😅 Nexus almost has a monopoly on mod hosting nowadays. ModDB used to be bigger and ModDrop's trying to get there, but there isn't enough competition to really break Nexus
gaunt gust
couple of other reasons:
shell willow
moddrop is better to its creators
gaunt gust
- Nexus has most other Stardew Mods, making it easier to link to requirements, etc
shell willow
but nexus is still the place to go
gaunt gust
- If you want to do anything involving...uh, anything that has numeric IDs, you're probably going to at least register on Nexus to hold that space
(Because it's customary to use the Nexus mod ID to prepend your event IDs, quest IDs, etc.)
I want to like ModDrop but for some reason it's just so so slow on my computer
lament prairie
It barely loads half the time for some reason
gaunt gust
Yeah. Another spot - an underrated one, IMO - is github
lament prairie
Github lacks searching/lists
gaunt gust
true
lament prairie
(And has absolutely 0 obvious pathway for centralization)
gaunt gust
also true
I was thinking more "use github to host, then use Nexus/Moddrop to point at the github"
late nebula
I've not really been keen on uploading the mod I'm working on to either Nexus or Moddrop to be honest since neither lets you have full control over your mod anymore due to this mod pack nonsense.
lament prairie
There's a bunch of mods on Naver, but most people can't use them
late nebula
I don't know if either lets you opt out and both have clauses in their ToS to restrict deletion.
gaunt gust
At the very least, being able to NOT USE BBCODE is a win
lament prairie
lmao true
gaunt gust
(Also Nexus has been logging me out repeatedly which is annoying when I'm trying to document)
lunar cipher
I don't know if either lets you opt out and both have clauses in their ToS to re...
ModDrop does let you opt out, I'm pretty sure! The lead dev mentioned it when they put out an official ModDrop response to the Nexus announcement earlier in the year
late nebula
That's good then.
lunar cipher
Also while they don't allow for full deletion, they've said that the files are completely unavailable to users and don't show up in any way
lunar cipher
I was thinking more "use github to host, then use Nexus/Moddrop to point at the ...
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure Nexus would delete any mods that don't have files available and are just using Nexus for linking to a Github 😅 They'd probably ban people for it too
lament prairie
Nexus ToS: ```Public placeholders are prohibited. File pages without functioning files should remain unpublished, hidden, or be removed.
late nebula
Lol
gaunt gust
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure Nexus would delete any mods that don't have files...
Yeah, figured. It's more the bugtracker/documentation bits of Github I like anyways
(I don't mind the non-delete stuff - heck, I don't really think I can feel possessive of what's effectively a derived work)
late nebula
It's mostly just because mods tend to get stolen.
So it's just one more... Lack of control issue
Makes me angy
lunar cipher
Oh, I definitely feel possessive of it. It might be for someone else's characters, but my art is mine. And with the amount of times it's already been stolen over the years, you better believe I'm not letting Nexus steal it too
The DSV team were already very 😒 at Nexus for shit like not removing racist mods, so this was the last straw
gaunt gust
fair
shell willow
i am not a big fan of non-delete
BECAUSE I MESS UP OK
and i don’t need to be reminded of it
and it just makes me uncomfortable that “archived” files are still fairly accessible even if they are totally broken
gaunt gust
I have commits under my real name that use exec so I'm not sure I can make a reasonable claim to shame anymore
naive drum
exec?
gaunt gust
Something in python you're really not supposed to use, honestly
upper ember
The DSV team were already very 😒 at Nexus for shit like not removing racist mod...
There's been racist mods? I know there was one uh.. very bad one involving adult things, but I've never heard about racist ones
robust bison
The only one I know of is white maru
not sure if it actually goes against TOS though
lunar cipher
There's been racist mods? I know there was one uh.. very bad one involving adult...
A number of them, sadly. Mostly involving making Demetrius white, but there's been a few involving Maru too. One that ripped off DSV and white-washed both of them, though thankfully we were able to get that one taken down because of the art theft
robust bison
did DSV and SVO use the same outfits or were they different?
lunar cipher
Nexus has stated that whitewashing mods are not against their ToS as long as the author is not using overtly racist language in the mod description 🙄
upper ember
Ahhh. Thankfully I don't believe I've ever stumbled across them. Only portrait mods I've ever used has been DC Burger's and the DC Burger styled ones
lunar cipher
did DSV and SVO use the same outfits or were they different?
Up until October last year, they had the same outfits, but after DSV decided to stop working with SVO, some of the outfits have changed
robust bison
oh ok
lunar cipher
Mostly because I've been updating stuff that wasn't up to the same standard of quality as the rest or didn't fit our character style guides, though there's also been a few replacements for permission issues
wicked juniper
hey @tired brook I'm having an issue with json assets, I found a post of yours on the nexus mods message board. Is there any way I can get the v1.10.1 ? Thanks
late nebula
Wow that mod still exists... Wtf
wicked juniper
lol it's a prereq for a few other mods I use
upper ember
I mean.. One of the mod's descriptions.. I wouldn't call subtle with their language
So Nexus really has no reason to try and protect 'em
lunar cipher
The "those who would prefer a fairer fellow" bit? 🙃 I've brought that up with Pickysaurus when asking why it wasn't removed after I reported it and got told that 1) it's not against their ToS, and 2) he sees no difference between that and DSV since they're both mods that change a character's race
So fuck Nexus, basically
upper ember
Nah, I mean this.
"You may also like -person-'s White Demetrius but personally i think his portrait looks a bit too much like a black guy in white-face."
The one with a very very bad recolor of Clint's portrait with an even crappier Demetrius sprite recolor
lunar cipher
😒 Don't think I've seen that one, but yeah, might as well try reporting it. I wouldn't hold out hope of much coming of it though
upper ember
I can send it to you in PMs if you wanna report it
lunar cipher
To be blunt, I don't think Coriel would pay attention to racism reports from me :/
late nebula
The comments on those are so cringe.
upper ember
I do kinda like one comment.. "You uneducated donut"
robust bison
which mod is this?
late nebula
The people talking about how whitewashing a character makes the game "playable" are... something.
trim depot
why would someone even say that??
robust bison
we live in a society
upper ember
I mean I don't like Demetrius. Because he's weirdly possessive of Maru and is horrible to Sebastian. But I just don't talk to the weirdo, don't like his personality
I don't like any step parent that does that to their step kids
..Which is laggier, portraits or Diverse.. I'm conflicted between which I want to use..
late nebula
Diverse is laggier bit better imo and worth the little lag. There is also a lite version.
I also like the consistency in art style.
So I don't internally scream everytime I want to try out a new NPC that doesn't have a matching portrait.
upper ember
Right now I'm using all of the DC Burger styled portraits, and slowly but surely, Lunakatt and OrangePie are doing the style for every custom NPC that's cropping up
robust bison
all of my portraits are so mismatched
upper ember
Buut.. Lyell's new portraits aren't going to look the same with the DC Burger style, so I might switch to DSV, try it out and see if PyTK pitches a tantrum over it as well
lunar cipher
DSV doesn't need PyTK, so it shouldn't do 😄
upper ember
Oh sweet then! It loves to throw tantrums for my game ;; I'll happily deal with a little more game lag than these loading times
ModDrop, right?
lunar cipher
Yep!
And the game lag is really just that it takes slightly longer to go in & out of buildings, the game itself doesn't run slower
late nebula
I feel like DSV matches better with desaturated and "pretty" mods too.
It also supports platonic relationships.
lunar cipher
I'm working on overhauling the code so that the full, lightweight & ultralightweight versions will be options in the one mod and selectable per character 😄 That way people will be able to select the full version just for their spouse but the light version for everyone else, or the full version just for the bachelorettes, or whichever combination they'd like
So hopefully that'll also help with balancing things
upper ember
I make my farmer pretty much marry the entire town, and all the expansions.. It's quite fun
And.. all the custom NPCs
late nebula
I thought about doing that but meh.. Too many emotions
upper ember
I can't pick just one, I gotta have all
bronze light
what are good mods to use that don't make the game look too modded
stuff that basically just makes the main game better
upper ember
Expansion mods
late nebula
I'm also just kinda over the marriage progression thing in these types of games. None of the NPCs are my actual husband so I'm not interested lol
bronze light
whats expansion mod
upper ember
Ridgeside, East Scarp, SVE ( I personally don't support it, but hey, I know people like it )
Downtown Zuzu, Always Raining in the Valley..
SVE is the only one that changes the actual vanilla map, the others are just connected to it, but all try to match vanilla style
SVE being Stardew Valley Expanded, and Ridgeside is Ridgeside Village
late nebula
If you just want more of a challenge, there's stuff like Challenging Community Center Bundles and Hardew Valley too.
There's a lot of mods like that. And skill overhauls as well.
Walk of Life is one of my favorites.
upper ember
There's.. a ton of mods that improve vanilla but still retain a vanilla feel, so kinda hard to pin down what exactly you're looking for
lunar cipher
I'd really recommend not getting SVE if you don't want the game to look "too modded", since it affects a lot of things
fathom trench
what are good mods to use that don't make the game look too modded
Highly recommend Greenhouse Construction for all your indoor plant growing needs.
(It do be a little obviously modded)
lunar cipher
Same for just about any expansion mod, really, all of them are going to make the game look modded. Stick to smaller mods for that
It'd help if you could specify what you count as "too modded" though
fathom trench
I like the mods that add more things to do. I'm not really a social person, in game or out, so I prefer to make things like sheds dedicated to processing various machines
Speaking of... I probably need to download a mod to put casks anywhere and make a couple sheds dedicated to that... They just take way too long
naive drum
theres stuff like automate, raffadax, PPJA, etc
there are so many mods that add more artisan goods
lunar cipher
Actually, DSV would probably be okay for a vanilla+ game too 🤔 Just set all the characters to vanilla
upper ember
Artisan Valley has a lot of machines, but it has a lot of machines
So more goods and things to do, but, machines
sick sequoia
does anyone know how to make the economy mod have higher taxes per day? i cant seem to figure out how to do it and ive raised my lot value
fathom trench
Is there a config file?
tired brook
hey <@!226803198218731520> I'm having an issue with json assets, I found a post ...
Hi! Here's a preview of the upcoming Json Assets 1.10.1. I'm not sure what you need it for, but if you're still having issues with this build, feel free to ping me with a summary and I'll take a look.
fathom trench
I should probably try to figure out what I'm doing wrong with ginger island. I think I did things out of order so its hard to find walnuts right now.
bronze light
does anyone here have experience with the always online mod?
trim depot
honestly ignoring the fact i'm using vortex thats really pog.
bronze light
fathom trench
I don't think I've ever had a problem with vortex that wasn't an easy fix. For stardew at least, skyrim was a different story
trim depot
you wanna know something funny
actually changed my 2-3k worth of seed into 25-30k worth of random items
robust bison
has anyone been able to use sounds of yoba with harp of yoba in 1.5?
trim depot
honestly not even that mad.
wicked juniper
Hi! Here's a preview of the upcoming Json Assets 1.10.1. I'm not sure what you n...
Hey thanks! Yeah my issue is that JSON Assets seems to be loading or querying files from an old install. Idk if that’s what’s causing the game to crash, but that’s the only red text I’m getting on smapi
trim depot
bro how much you guys think i'll get from all this?
fluid basin
just got the multiple spouses mod on a multiplayer world and the other person didnt have it, its completely fucked up our beds and my first husband is just straight up gone? so i deleted it and we restarted our games but the beds are still fucked up and shanes room is gone and hes not anywhere i can find him
wanton wharf
You know Automate + Crab Pots + ||Junimo Chests|| Is so freaking broken
fluid basin
it still says in my relationship menu that im married to shane and sebastian
naive drum
yeah you'll both need it
and you'll need multiple spouses installed to divorce either spouse
don't desync your modlists and dont uninstall multiple spouses without first divorcing all your extra spouses
trim depot
oh dude
did halo infinite release? noticed that nexus has halo infinite mods.
robust bison
the MP beta did
fluid basin
don't desync your modlists and dont uninstall multiple spouses without first div...
sooo i mightve deleted it before i read this,, i guess it just replaced sebastian as my current husband but. it just says that im married to them both
the beds were fucked up but that was solved by just buying new ones
trim depot
bro what
lunar cipher
Nah, that's a mod-added thing where you can extract DNA from animal products. Can't remember what the name of the mod is though 🤔
Aha, it's PPJA Fresh Meat. You stick animal products in a machine, it produces DNA, then you stick the DNA into another machine to turn it into meat
knotty basalt
how do i add farms to my game?
like how do i add the file
i have it but idk where to put it
shy orbit
what mod is it? usually they are installed like other mods to the Mods folder
shy orbit
link?
knotty basalt
to the file?
a friend sent me a farm we worked on his computer, now i want to play this farm too alone
i have the file from the backups i just dont know where to put it
shy orbit
ah no need then
if it's an xnb file it needs to go into the game's Content folder, to the Maps folder in all likelihood to replace a native farm file. it's not really adviced to replace game files but in this case it's probably what needs to be done
!xnb
native dragonBOT
XNB mods often break the game and are not recommended. See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods for more info (and a list of Content Patcher alternatives), and https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files to fix problems caused by XNB mods. For mod creators, see https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files for help unpacking & editing them (including for use with Content Patcher).
naive drum
that sounds kind of like it's a save file maybe?
make sure you have the correct mods and then
!saves
native dragonBOT
Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.
shy orbit
oh, you're probably right
knotty basalt
thx
dire fractal
if multiple mods are using same hotkey,how it's determined which will take preference?
dire fractal
what to do if I don't want to use a hotkey,can I just leave that space blank in the config?
urban linden
does sve change the donations required for the rusty key
robust bison
does sve change the donations required for the rusty key
you get the key from marlon in sve
robust bison
what to do if I don't want to use a hotkey,can I just leave that space blank in ...
put null
dire fractal
Thanks
naive drum
you can also put it on a key like f20 or something
muted pagoda
well that's a first, never expected to ever upgrade the watering can first, so many crops to water. (and actually playing the bloody game for the first time all year)
dire fractal
Is there any mod or smapi command to show the keybind of all available mods without having to check every mod's config?
muted pagoda
there is not, unfortunately
dire fractal
oh.I wish there was something like that. It would be so convenient to find and if possible change the keybind of mods in-game
dire fractal
hi anyone knows why when i add ridgeside village mod, the game loads and won't load?
im using a lot different mods and game is always loading, but not after if i put ridgeside village mod
shy orbit
!log this will probably tell what the problem is
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
shy orbit
well, unfortunately i can't see any problem on the log
outer turret
Looks like its loading. It may be very slow?
outer turret
You're also using a lot of very large mods on 1.5.4
muted pagoda
that's mac, is 64bit
outer turret
And a mac.
muted pagoda
but just in general, using sve es lunna and ridgeside, expect 15 minutes+ loading
outer turret
I hear sometimes Macs have issues?
muted pagoda
could be the m1 problem, but they'd have that problem before adding ridgeside
dire fractal
put `null`
It crashed the mod
muted pagoda
some places dont like null, though you need to put null, not "null", that still may not work though
dire fractal
Thanks for the info
trying now
im still schoked my macbook 2017 can run that much mods and game is like 2 minutes but after ridgeside the game cant event run
and it runs pretty well but i assume the mod is too demand on my mac with those lot mods
muted pagoda
yes and no, once it actually loads it will probably play fine
weird part is even a beefier machine doesnt change that timeline that much, either
(also for the record, an ssd does literally nothing)
there's just some spots where modded takes exponentially longer to load
muted pagoda
I run a relatively similar setup, if I add Zuzu to it, it takes me over an hour for it to load, its comical :p
muted pagoda
number doesnt matter 'that' much, its specifically the bigger mods
you can inflate that number fast playing with tiny add 1-3 things sort of mods
dire fractal
maybe i have some useless big mods i can remove to install ridgeside
shy orbit
i was waiting like 10 minutes but didnt load up
can you upload that log, if you haven't launched the game after it?
muted pagoda
I actually trimmed back my crops/items/ppja stuff this last run, cut my total items from almost 6000 to barely 2500. Helped a bit.
dire fractal
@shy orbit sure but once i get back to home
shy orbit
but just in general, using sve es lunna and ridgeside, expect 15 minutes+ loadin...
i'm not sure about that, i just tested with ES, RSV, SVE, and Lunna and the game loaded in less than a minute. i think it's more when you add other mods on top of them. it seems to be a bit unpredictable too, like small map patches sometimes seem to add a lot of loading time https://smapi.io/log/462b42be47914695b5afe0b85a023593
oh and my computer is barely mid tier, core i5-9400f processor
these are outdated versions of those mods though too, so it might not be the same currently
muted pagoda
yeah, with literally only those it likely loads well, but.. noone ever uses just those, hehe, its definately an exponential growth problem, every item/object you add makes every process take slightly longer and you hit weird breakpoints where it just tanks
add ppja/av or raffadax to that and it will probably go straight down the drain
shy orbit
i'd guess so too, and i'll try, just to see what happens
muted pagoda
thats what I largely discovered, though more from jumping from 10-15 min load to hour plus, if I added zuzu to the other ones with one of the crop mods it just literally died
in other news, I might actually make it to summer.. yay. With 2 copper tools, and backpack1, and 300 coins.
shy orbit
hm, still under a minute actually with the usual PPJA mega pack, artisan valley and Raffadax
after adding SVO and a recolor (stardew foliage redone) it's still at about 1 minute. i thought they would have added more honestly
muted pagoda
seasonal villagers? that tends to add stutter in transitions, less so on loading, still pretty interesting
shy orbit
yeah, a lot of the added loading time can be during save load and actual game play of course. but still
turbid zealot
that's interesting, never saw it before
knotty basalt
me 2
turbid zealot
perhaps a debug item that end up in a chest by accident ?
knotty basalt
idk
turbid zealot
It's a glitch item, one that (apparently) can even make the game crash.
Better get rid of it
knotty basalt
ok
vagrant oar
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tight vessel
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!log
native dragonBOT
@tight vessel Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
tight vessel
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keen crow
I need a log to help. The logs don't just record crashes
tight vessel
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keen crow
Try logging out and back into steam
Although from your rich presence mod I can see you're hosting co-op at the moment and only have one cabin... So inviting someone else wouldn't work anyway
tight vessel
Although from your rich presence mod I can see you're hosting co-op at the momen...
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keen crow
It tends to be funky at times, but I've seen logging out and back into steam has fixed it for some people. Isn't too much of a issue though if using the code works
rustic plover
Are you able to make so you don’t have to be in the game for people to play on your server
humble elbow
idk, if there was a way to do so, it probably wont be with the use of mods
you probablly need to have acces to a server
i think
rustic plover
Wdym by that
fathom trench
idk, if there was a way to do so, it probably wont be with the use of mods
There's A mod for it
humble elbow
yea but you still need something to host it with 24/7
humble elbow
yes their is a mod for it ( https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2677 )
but you still need something to host it on
fathom trench
Well ya you need something to host the game anyways
mild frost
I'm going to introduce you to a concept called a good number of people never turn off their pcs, problem solved
fathom trench
Yea I'm not sure what you're getting at, its pretty common knowledge that you have to have a server running for it to work
humble elbow
Yea I'm not sure what you're getting at, its pretty common knowledge that you ha...
its possible to just host it on your PC, but then you can never turn it off
otherwise the world will turn of too
fathom trench
Yes that's how servers work.
humble elbow
yea
fathom trench
Are you able to make so you don’t have to be in the game for people to play on y...
If your question is can you have it remotely hosted where people can join, like a Minecraft server, no. If you mean something where you just let it run and you do whatever without worry, then yes
It would be cool to be able to utilize that mod to make a remote server
lament prairie
I think someone was working on something like that, but I've never personally looked into this kind of mod bc I only play co-op with one person
And the fun part for me is working with other people actively
humble elbow
lament prairie
No
fathom trench
I like automation.
fathom trench
Thats part of it
fathom trench
My idea was that if you can make a "fake player", you could potentially have an instance of the game running with the fake player as host with the always on mod, and have others able to connect to the fake player instance
umbral mica
can anyone tell me what some good mods are?
lament prairie
!modrecs
native dragonBOT
Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
lament prairie
umbral mica
also, does anyone have any suggestions for a good mod to use to recolor, and make things in your farm look a bit different? i cant really find any.
umbral mica
ty so much! they look so good! ❤️
plush salmon
dose anyone know a good mod for changing the stores and the npc houses
pine fjord
Wait, I don't understand what you mean? Where does it say that 
dire fractal
@shy orbit hi im back at home, if you have a time check on that log you wanted to send to you. thanks https://smapi.io/log/8d39ffa34e1443eab3c45cc17326fe5d
idk if the logs are saying that ridgeside mod was loaded correctly. cause game wont load because of this mod
late nebula
dose anyone know a good mod for changing the stores and the npc houses
There are others but that one is my fave.
umbral mica
does anyone know any mods that can make your farmhouse look different? like the exterior aka outside?
plush salmon
thank for the help
late nebula
does anyone know any mods that can make your farmhouse look different? like the ...
I think Flower Valley above does as well.
fair frigate
Wait, I don't understand what you mean? Where does it say that <:sar_think:81188...
Don’t worry, he accepted it, but there’s a different mod I have that tells me how someone feels about the item that im holding when I mouse over them. For some reason it said that lol
chrome cosmos
if its the taste reveal mod its most likely just outdated
fair frigate
if its the taste reveal mod its most likely just outdated
That’s probably what it is lol
I can’t remember all the names of over a hundred mods sadly lol
lament prairie
I can’t remember all the names of over a hundred mods sadly lol
I'm pretty sure someone else here mentioned this; for whatever reason, bouquets are listed as hated gifts and the logic for them is handled separately
gaunt gust
You'd probably get something similar for items for one specific quest
fathom trench
aren't mermaid pendants also considered hated gifts?
i can understand the justification for it: if you don't meet the heart requirement, why would someone like getting that gift?
fair frigate
I'm pretty sure someone else here mentioned this; for whatever reason, bouquets ...
Yeah, I read that, that confirmed what I thought later on
fair frigate
i can understand the justification for it: if you don't meet the heart requireme...
That’s my assumption lol. Like especially if it’s to someone that’s not a marriage candidate or something like that.
gaunt gust
it's all handled in tryToRecieveActiveObject
rare cipher
have someone a worked version of this mod ? : https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1787?tab=description
gaunt gust
Stash Items: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/9624
rare cipher
ty^^
worthy moth
XSPlus adds this feature to the game (and other features too)
Stash to nearby, craft from remote chests, increased chest storage, tabs, search bar, item filters, and other stuff I probably forgot to mention
chilly horizon
mmm so i put some mods together and wanted to play with my friend. it has 74 mods loaded for me, but for my friend it has 10 mods loaded wtf
and a crap ton of errors
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
late nebula
They're mostly likely missing a dependency.
lament prairie
that would do it
gleaming yew
guns mod
gleaming yew
This is a kid friendly server <a:PI_nicoshoo:703860616510832661>
tfw kids also play call of duty
checkmate
keen crow
... Ah, yes... Farming sim... Shooting game... So completely the same things
neat violet
tfw you're so addicted to digital murder you can't play a farming game without shooty shooty bang bang
keen crow
But, hey, there you go. If you want guns, go there instead 
robust bison
I was actually thinking about making a gun mod 
proud pike
is there a way i can uninstall mods including SVE, without wrecking my save?
shy orbit
i think you mainly should trash modded items before removing the mods, then smapi cleans up the save usually
there can be problems but you can try and see at least
gaunt gust
May have to reset terrain again
shy orbit
active modded quests might be a problem too
gaunt gust
Yeah, and you have to dismiss any quest
(otherwise the game will crash when it tries to draw the quest log)
Also, if you have special orders, don't remove those between Sunday and Monday
proud pike
Thanks, i'll try to learn this
dire fractal
Will mods from 1.4.5 work for an up to date version of Stardew valley?
lament prairie
Unclear, depends on the mod
If it's a content pack for an updated framework, then most likely yes
I don't know if there's anything special about 1.4.5, I'm speaking more generally about 1.4
dire fractal
I see thank you
gaunt gust
I see thank you
!compat
native dragonBOT
@dire fractal See https://smapi.io/mods for a list of mods updated for the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley. :)
hexed warren
Stash to nearby, craft from remote chests, increased chest storage, tabs, search...
Adding Chests Anywhere is helpful too, you can toggle between chests and put things away or take them out from anywhere
fair frigate
Heya, so can someone remind me when you can get the iridium rod?
Because I’m at lvl 6 in my fishing and I haven’t gotten the letter that i can get it yet 🥲
worthy moth
Adding Chests Anywhere is helpful too, you can toggle between chests and put thi...
Oh yeah, my mod doesn't try to replace Chests Anywhere since that one is very well supported. I started adding Convenient Chests features after it became apparent that the original author didn't intend to support it anymore.
Although, as far as putting things away to all your chests. That is a feature of my mod. You can categorize all of your placed chests, and then hit a hotkey to stash your items into them from anywhere.
fair frigate
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Iridium_Rod
I’m a dumdum I just got it. Thank you tho lol
late nebula
Which version of Stardew aquarium do I get for 1.4.5
the most recent one is supposed to be compatible
there is a note about it on the description page though
dusky canyon
late nebula
https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-20636803
I actually have to make myself do that sometimes... to the point that I use a piece of paper so I don't skip ahead.
sturdy onyx
Idk if this is the right place to ask, but is it safe to get the 1.5.5 beta version now? I saw one person saying that a LOT of mods are up to date with the version, so np with that + you get the bonus quality of the 64bits. Should I bkp my save and my mods just in case?
late nebula
Definitely backup
It is mostly stable though.
With mods and all.
Pytk seems to be creating the most issues.
Some mods will aso have specific versions for the beta, so create a log and go through to see which need to be updated.
jagged relic
What's the recommended number of mods (like, how many recommended that stardew can run max)
late nebula
People have over 1000
keen crow
Me, I'm people! 
late nebula
It really depends more on what the mods you have are doing.
jagged relic
I just have 122 and thought i had alot lol, experiencing some issues rn
jagged relic
Most things work fine (I can send the console log if needed though), however when I load up the save it just stops responding. Tried waiting an hour and nothing happened.
late nebula
Did you try clicking?
keen crow
Mine does that, I just don't touch it or anything and let it do its thing
late nebula
Sometimes a click will make it load.
jagged relic
Tried clicking after I waited the hour
Then waited a good 15 minutes for it to load after
late nebula
Send a log just in case we might see anything helpful
dusky canyon
how many mods do you have? do you have sve?
late nebula
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
jagged relic
how many mods do you have? do you have sve?
yup
jagged relic
dusky canyon
https://blog.naver.com/123sometimes/222571508531 if anyone is looking for some high-res bow hats. This is from blog.naver, so you are able to download it yourself.
Uses [JA] and [PYTK]
jagged relic
btw i have edited a few mods to work together like the void chicken with redesign on barn animals
dusky canyon
I'd suggest first downloading customcompanions
chilly horizon
yep
jagged relic
try removing sve and see how fast it loads
dateable wizard plotline tho 😭
The modding rabbithole is easy to fall through
dusky canyon
if you're only getting sve for that, try this https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3073
jagged relic
I'm getting sve for more content too
dusky canyon
but you probably dontt have to remove sve if you download custom companions
jagged relic
yeah
novel swallow
Does someone know a mod where I can change the chance of clay when I randomly dig somewhere?
jagged relic
Well, the save loaded except now theres a new error.
chilly horizon
no but theres a mod to buy clay
dire fractal
Does someone know a mod where I can change the chance of clay when I randomly di...
there's a mod where u can buy it
novel swallow
yeah I saw that one. I rather search for myself for recourses tho 😅
Or maybe more common recourses with which you can mix up clay, that would be nice too.
dusky canyon
You removed DTZ?
jagged relic
DTZ?
keen crow
Downtown Zuzu
safe ibex
does anyone know if there's a mod which makes it so that perfection is counted only on vanilla stuff and not modded stuff?
dusky canyon
fair frigate
Heya, so I’m in the spirit’s eve maze with sve so there’s more chests in here…how do you get to them? 🥲
Btw the costumes are adorable lol
dire fractal
Heya, so I’m in the spirit’s eve maze with sve so there’s more chests in here…ho...
You don't. There's nothing in there but a not so nicely written note against "cheaters". (unless they changed that).
keen depot
Not sure if this is the correct place, but does steam remote play together work on modded stardew valley?
I'd assume not but
neat plaza
Not sure if this is the correct place, but does steam remote play together work ...
it barely works on normal sdv if im correct?
keen depot
it barely works on normal sdv if im correct?
I've tested it a bit and it seemed to work fine
but idk haven't played like a full session with it
late nebula
Not sure if this is the correct place, but does steam remote play together work ...
I've used the steamlink app to play on my phone. It works but the resolution and controls were weird.
keen depot
hmm ok
proven thicket
so is SDV expanded worth playing for a bit?
dusky canyon
no
proven thicket
too many technical difficulties?
dusky canyon
sometimes! but I was just stating my own personal view haha
proven thicket
can you eleborate a bit?
dusky canyon
keen crow
It overhauls pretty much everything in game, thus if you want to use it with other mods they need to be sve compatible or you'll run into problems
That's the 'technical' side and then Reb's link is her views 
dusky canyon
and it slows your loading time by a LOTTTTTTTTTTT
proven thicket
even longer than pytk??
keen crow
It's one of the biggest load heavy mods
dusky canyon
yes
late nebula
A lot of the load is not worth it either as it loads areas that have no real point in the mod from what I understand.
proven thicket
holy shit SVE used to be behind a paywall???
proven thicket
so basically SVE is just hell inside and out.
keen crow
I don't believe so, but don't quote me on it
robust bison
I think it's a great mod but that's my 2 cents
keen crow
If it was modular that would fix a lot of problems with mod compatibility 
late nebula
I don't judge anyone wanting to play it, but I would highly recommend having a separate modgroup and save file for it.
keen crow
I think it's a great mod but that's my 2 cents
Oh, I didn't say it wasn't a great mod... I'm just saying it does have a bit of a compatibility issue with other mods cause it changes so much
proven thicket
robust bison
oh
late nebula
(I sometimes think that would be best for most expansion mods, especially if they do anything at all to the vanilla characters.)
late nebula
That is taken out of context.
proven thicket
i know
keen crow
My comment was for the beta paywall thingy 
proven thicket
yeah, it's scummy that some mods are behind a paywall
keen crow
(shakes fist at)
brazen hawk
Uhm, modders are essentially artists and maybe want to get paid?
fair frigate
Heya, so I’m having trouble finding seasonings and I can’t remember which mod those are in…
proven thicket
oh, i meant on top of the cipoyrighted usic
keen crow
Let's not get into this argument here 
late nebula
It's just the beta behind a paywall. (Just want us to be angry for the right reasons here.)
neat plaza
Heya, so I’m having trouble finding seasonings and I can’t remember which mod th...
PPJA?
keen crow
Heya, so I’m having trouble finding seasonings and I can’t remember which mod th...
Finding seasonings? As in foods?
proven thicket
like copyrighted music, as in,, music that they don't own
keen crow
https://mouseypounds.github.io/ppja-ref/ This might help?
fair frigate
https://mouseypounds.github.io/ppja-ref/ This might help?
I checked in there and I can’t find it anywhere
keen crow
Well, what are you trying to find? 
fair frigate
I was thinking maybe it’s in my Love of Cooking mod?
fair frigate
Well, what are you trying to find? <:squeee:847178093575667724>
Seasonings
fair frigate
I said it twice already 😩
neat plaza
I was thinking maybe it’s in my Love of Cooking mod?
maybe
keen crow
Oh, I thought you meant different seasonings, sorry!
chilly swallow
Seasonings you can buy straight from Gus
fair frigate
Seasonings you can buy straight from Gus
Ooooh
proven thicket
yeah, I think the long loading time in sve just far outweighs my desire to actually play that mod.
elder imp
replacing the sve audio files with empty ones reduced the loading time, for anyone who'd like to try
fair frigate
Also, I regretted ||drinking that tequila, because I was soooo sloooow||
Honestly, passing out would’ve made more sense lol
fair frigate
yeah, I think the long loading time in sve just far outweighs my desire to actua...
That’s weird, it’s not that slow for me
dusky canyon
try removing it and then you'll see
lunar cipher
In addition to all of the issues that have already been mentioned, SVE also has very poor writing and all but one or two of the characters are incredibly bland. So it's not even good from an artistic perspective
proven thicket
That’s weird, it’s not that slow for me
i mean, i never tried it, because there's so much, and ptyk already adds a whole minute to the save loading
chilly swallow
for a lot of people, it depends on how many mods you have installed, as well. SVE is a very large mod. So if you have that plus want to have others, it starts to slow down your load times
also.. I have divinity.. imma happy marshmallow
keen crow
i mean, i never tried it, because there's so much, and ptyk already adds a whole...
(cries in half an hour load)
lunar cipher
Plus as mentioned, FlashShifter has been called out for a ton of dubious practises, including "forgetting" about other mods (which people have receipts of him specifically knowing about) and ripping off their ideas at least three times
neat violet
Uhm, modders are essentially artists and maybe want to get paid?
(or maybe modders are artists who don't want to monetize every single thing they do and want to have something creative that isn't motivated by profit)
brazen hawk
Well, if you have never tried it, you won't know how long it will actually load.
chilly swallow
*(cries in half an hour load)*
we who are over 600 mods have no ability to complain anymore lol
dusky canyon
with sve: 35-40 min load
without sve: 25-30
incl save load
brazen hawk
(or maybe modders are artists who don't want to monetize every single thing they...
Huh, did I say somewhere that every modder does this?
proven thicket
and also I feel like PPJA was enough as is, and since I feel like there's tons of compatibily issues with that, I feel like I shouldn't bother with SVE
especially since I just hear someone type dubious.
neat violet
I'm pointing out that maybe we'd like to have a fandom space where money is not demanded. Like, let people create and release things for free! It's okay!
lunar cipher
Also FlashShifter really isn't the best example of "poor modders just want to be paid for their work" because he's one of the few Stardew modders who actually is earning a lot of money off of SVE. I also seriously doubt that Poltergeister (the character artist), iKeychain (did the fish sprites and item sprites, to my knowledge), all of the many people who made the frameworks that let SVE even be possible, and the others who are involved in SVE which Flash conveniently forgets to tell people about see anywhere near as much money as he does
chilly swallow
honestly.. my advice? read the description of SVE.. see if it sounds interesting. if it does, try it. You can always yeet it if you dont like it. If you don't think it sounds good and dont want to deal with the trouble it can cause, understood, you don't have to ❤️
neat violet
(setting aside the issue of ethics of charging for something based on someone else's work)
proven thicket
indeed
brazen hawk
I'm pointing out that maybe we'd like to have a fandom space where money is not ...
99% of the community is like that, so no need to point that out to me. But ok lol
neat violet
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were that compelled to represent the remaining 1%.
brazen hawk
Your reading comprehension is lacking severly tiakall. What is your point?
knotty fable
yeah, all SDV mods rely so much on the work of others for frameworks etc that charging for betas is not great
lapis void
i'm just gonna... <@&239770080378880001> because i think this is getting bad Fast
chilly swallow
hugs Corrin!
lunar cipher
Hey, Corrin 😄
proven thicket
well I'm outta here
wanton trench
Hows it going
late nebula
Gif spamming is "obviously" the answer...
chilly swallow
me opening this channel
ltns.. leaves you a hug
dusky canyon
search my messages. gifs are my language
lapis void
Hows it going
hi aquo, it's The SVE Thing again -_- it calmed down right when you came in ofc
dusky canyon
the discussion went fiiiiiiiiiine
late nebula
The argument part wasn't about SVE actually.
dusky canyon
reading comprehension was also fine
wanton trench
It's always SVE when we get pinged in here
neat violet
Man, maybe y'all should just ban SVE talk altogether. 😔
dusky canyon
I didn't insult it though
neat violet
I... didn't say anything insulting about SVE or its modder? I meant maybe if it's going to cause a problem for junimos if it's even mentioned in calm tones, maybe just put a total ban on it?
lunar cipher
At what point were any of us insulting SVE or FlashShifter? Everything said was true and a valid point to raise when somebody asked for opinions on whether SVE is worth using or not. It wasn't said in an insulting manner either
wanton trench
You called him a poor writer, engages in dubious practices, and rips peoples ideas off
But im not here to argue
lunar cipher
Which is true. I'm allowed to have my opinion on his writing without it being an insult
knotty fable
but he literally did that. that's not insulting that's just facts
wanton trench
I'm not here to argue, remain civil, don't insult other modders
dusky canyon
https://minervamods.tumblr.com/post/625578430417829888/hey-all-wanted-to-share-some-information-here I base my point of view on this post and the other things I've experienced with sve
I wouldn't insult 
lunar cipher
I'm not arguing, I'm just discussing things. Am I not allowed to say that I dislike his writing then?
neat violet
man, I wasn't even here to talk about SVE, I just disagreed with the expectation that mods should be monetized ¯_(ツ)_/¯
worthy moth
I think creators should be allowed to be rewarded for their hard work if they choose. Especially if it's just an optional thing that has no impact on the 99.9% of users who use their content for free.
chilly swallow
sees yoda Pathos type and has a fangirl moment
tired brook
Since the modder isn't here to defend themselves, here's the SVE author's response to that blog post: https://www.patreon.com/posts/addressing-post-45764552. I suggest looking at all the facts and reaching your own conclusions; we're wary of SVE discussions because there's often a bandwagon effect where people dislike SVE or the author because someone else does.
neat violet
I think creators should be allowed to be rewarded for their hard work if they ch...
I'm fine with donations and whatnot, I mean paywalls, to be clear. 🙂 Expectation vs. volunteer.
lunar cipher
That's why we've got the donations system though, there's no need to lock things behind a beta paywall
worthy moth
I kind of hate the trend that everyone should expect a full-time commitment from creators for nothing in return. Scratch that, what I get in return are high expectations, demands, and sometimes insults.
Like SVE is completely free and has always been
neat violet
yeah, but likewise, the idea that we have to monetize everything or its not "productive" is a destructive mindset, I feel.
worthy moth
No one has to, but I just believe they are entitled to
neat violet
I don't believe they're entitled to money made off someone else's IP, no.
dusky canyon
(spouses react to your death, immersive shane)
tired brook
I don't really see an issue with beta paywalls personally. The mod is completely free and every players get all the SVE features, it's just that supporters get to preview new stuff a little earlier before it's fully released.
neat violet
Honestly, Pathos, I agree - it's different if it's early access vs no access at all.
worthy moth
Well now you're making the argument that SVE doesn't have enough original content to merit it's beta paywall.
neat violet
but again, that's volunteer vs. expectation.
worthy moth
Like, can you agree that regardless of borrowed concepts, Flashshifter has put hundreds if not thousands of hours into SVE?
neat violet
He does that of his own free will.
late nebula
The issue, from what I understand, with SVE is that, at one point, the work of others who are not Flahshifter was also behind the paywall. I do not know if that is still the case.
But it is kinda meh.
neat violet
And he's still doing that based off CA's work. If he wants to go in with an expectation of being paid, go form a game studio.
dusky canyon
I mean, he had contact with the author before about if it's okay they do it for SVE, says yes, then stated he had no dms with them and had no knowledge of spouses react to your death existing all the while he's promoting on twitter about adding this -original- idea about sve spouses reacting to your death to SVE
I'm basing my opinion on those kind of things, not just oh-other-people-dislike-sve-so-I-should-too
wanton trench
And he's still doing that based off CA's work. If he wants to go in with an *ex...
Sorry Pathos, delete the patreon
lunar cipher
The issue, from what I understand, with SVE is that, at one point, the work of o...
Whether or not it still has work from people who haven't consented to it, I'm not sure, but it definitely does have work by other people because Flash isn't a one-man studio. I still don't know if Poltergeister sees a share of Flash's Patreon money even though the characters are one of the main reasons people play SVE
neat violet
Sorry Pathos, delete the patreon
Pathos released SMAPI for free.
worthy moth
Here's where you can get SVE for free https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3753?tab=description
dusky canyon
I don't think Pathos is that same situation haha
tired brook
And he's still doing that based off CA's work. If he wants to go in with an *ex...
The mod was created long before the Patreon. I don't think he creates the mod with an expectation of profit, it's just that the Patreon gives him something back for his time and lets him work more on the mod.
neat violet
The mod was created long before the Patreon. I don't think he creates the mod wi...
And I'm fine with that!
knotty fable
we're not saying you can't have donation! just that setting things up behind a paywall especially when it includes other people's work who are not getting paid from that paywall is not good
worthy moth
Like, the mod is this
Stardew Valley Expanded is a fanmade expansion for ConcernedApe's Stardew Valley. This mod adds 26 new NPCs, 33 locations, 230 character events, 18 fish, reimagined vanilla areas, two farm maps, a reimagined world map reflecting all changes, new music, questlines, festivals, and many miscellaneous additions!
But okay sure, everyone actually downloads it for the one concept that is similar to another mod.
late nebula
The mod was created long before the Patreon. I don't think he creates the mod wi...
100% agree, Pathos. I'm not exactly sure where the whole "Flash expects to be paid for SVE" mentality is coming from.
tired brook
we're not saying you can't have donation! just that setting things up behind a ...
(That claim is addressed in FlashShifter's post I linked above.)
neat violet
Like I'm not sure how much clearer I can be on the volunteer vs. expectation thing. People sign up for Patreon because they want to support Pathos or Flash or whoever, not because they're having to pay for mods that are never released for free.
late nebula
The only problem I personally see with this conversation every time it comes up is the misinformation and misrepresentation on both sides which muddies it all.
neat violet
which conversation XD since I think we're having two different ones here
worthy moth
It's all he-said, she-said, and unless you have a personal stake in the matter you're just choosing to take whatever side fits your narrative
dusky canyon
?? there's a clear-cut view about how he's still doing things the same way though?
worthy moth
Like how about judging it for the content rather than what one or two people want you to believe
knotty fable
do Poltergeister and the other people who contribute work to SVE get a share from the Patreon then? if so that's fine 🙂
outer turret
The only thing I find weird about a beta paywall is that people are paying to find your bugs but I think that's true of many advance games.
And I'm happy to wait until its stable.
lunar cipher
Like how about judging it for the content rather than what one or two people wan...
I just got told that judging it on its content was insulting it though, so... 🤷♂️
tired brook
I don't think people pay for early access; they pay because they enjoy the mod and want to support its continued development, and getting early access is just one of the nice bonuses they get out of it.
upper ember
I personally don't support SVE, but that's because their "customer service", for lack of a better word, is absolutely terrible, and it actually ruined my long term save file due. That's my only issue with it
neat violet
The only thing I find weird about a beta paywall is that people are paying to fi...
🤣 it is weird when you put it like that, but on the other hand, they love the thing they're getting early access to and want to help, so more power to 'em I guess.
upper ember
Not once did they ever seem interested in hearing out, or looking into, issues caused by it, until it.. literally killed the save ;;
outer turret
Yeh that makes sense Pathos. And hey if ppl wanted to give me money in support I'd be a happy Kat. So I'm not judging there!
worthy moth
I mean I played SVE, it was fun and had a lot of interesting content. It wasn't my cup of tea though so I wouldn't continue playing it or play it again. Not really into Expansions in general.
brb gonna find a way to mod NFTs into SDV
neat violet
brb gonna find a way to mod NFTs into SDV
worthy moth
I hear it's all the rage
proven thicket
and pollutuion
worthy moth
what's a nft? >_>
All you need to know is that EA loves the idea of them
upper ember
Now that is a topic that probably shouldn't be in here..
proven thicket
indeed
outer turret
I'm.playing Sve atm. It's nice to have a different feel. Althiugh I'm not sure why ppl love Sophia so much.
neat violet
Do I want to know?
(quick primer in image form https://twitter.com/SnootBoopist/status/1461491976675627008)
late nebula
She's shy probably
upper ember
I like Victor, and the Wizard. I love my magic mans
outer turret
Claire's finally getting interesting now.
(Shes stopped just complaining about work all the time)
late nebula
(quick primer in image form <https://twitter.com/SnootBoopist/status/14614919766...
That makes no sense.
worthy moth
I'm.playing Sve atm. It's nice to have a different feel. Althiugh I'm not sure w...
Must be the pink hair
knotty fable
I did like Olivia 🙂
worthy moth
That makes no sense.
Now you're getting it
fading plank
what did we learn today kids? people gotta eat, especially if they're dedicating hundreds of hours of their life to creating a mod for a farming game
neat violet
That makes no sense.
Then you've understood it perfectly.
outer turret
(Guess hes got a thing for slightly mean girls)
late nebula
what did we learn today kids? people gotta eat, especially if they're dedicating...
True, and it's easier when they steal the work of others to make that dollar.
fading plank
it's almost like you didn't read the post that pathos linked
late nebula
I did.
tired brook
If modders want to eat, they should just bootstrap themselves up a crop mod and harvest it in-game themselves.
fading plank
yeah aight
main ingot
ayo who we bullyin
worthy moth
fading plank
no one
main ingot
dang thats crazy
knotty fable
LANI NO
neat violet
(counterpoint: whether you can eat or not should not be tied to your ablity to work)
late nebula
The thing is that I believe the results of what people do more than what they say. But I'll leave it alone
main ingot
[disappears]
shell willow
i missed the discourse 
tired brook
(I'll just point out that bringing it back up is after that discussion was over is, by definition, not leaving it alone.)
main ingot
yo is that the real bert from ridgeside village?
dusky canyon
YEAH
main ingot
big fan, big fan!
unreal raptor
I’m am also wondering why Sophia is so popular.
keen crow
The issue was dropped but then Danny brought it back up
tired brook
bans Danny
neat violet
Oh hey nametwin 😄 👋
outer turret
Right back to map making
dusky canyon
big fan, big fan!
main ingot
The issue was dropped but then Danny brought it back up <:squeee:847178093575667...
[pulls up my essay]
unreal raptor
Oh hello tiakall!
unreal stratus
_bans Danny_
Hehehe
banny
outer turret
My husband actually is pointing out to me that there are jobs out there for game content creation. So maybe one day...
worthy moth
I’m am also wondering why Sophia is so popular.
She's the Manic Pixie Dream Girl because she has pink hair and enjoys anime
unreal raptor
There are. So many people typing at the moment
shell willow
She's the Manic Pixie Dream Girl because she has pink hair and enjoys anime
manic pixie dream girls aren't as shy
worthy moth
True...
outer turret
She's the Manic Pixie Dream Girl because she has pink hair and enjoys anime
I'm just so old that I'm over white knight stories (even though I married Shane first playthrough. And wrote a 100k fanfic about him.)
main ingot
sophia is popular bc she looks so young but we not gonna get into that 🙄
shell willow
no, we're not getting into that
worthy moth
For me Penny is always bae
outer turret
Shes cute and into anime. Appeals to a certain type I guess.
main ingot
shell willow
alex <3
outer turret
Give me a scruffy professor with bad puns anyday.
unreal raptor
The ages of the bachelorettes and bachelors seems to be different between their sprites and portraits. I wonder why that is….. is it just art?
shell willow
wdym
main ingot
The ages of the bachelorettes and bachelors seems to be different between their ...
the art style, most likely. pixel art is about simplification/generalization
outer turret
Ruby is a prime example. Her portrait looks about 14 but her sprite looks closer to 30.
But shes anime styled
worthy moth
Abi, Sebas, and Sam always came off as the youngins to me
unreal raptor
I mean the sprites of most characters seem young, then in their portraits you get details that make them look older. I was surprised when I met Lenny of Ridgeside village, as an example.
outer turret
Tbf sprites are tiny
main ingot
Abi, Sebas, and Sam always came off as the youngins to me
yeah they give me 20s vibes
worthy moth
If they weren't bachelors I'd guess late-teens even
neat violet
My husband actually is pointing out to me that there are jobs out there for game...
Definitely, if you have social media start following some gamedev folks and start networking!
worthy moth
But that's just me showing my age since they seem younger than they are
cursive cipher
I heard multiple marriage mod is slightly buggy, is this why it says I can't load custom spouse patio?
It's at 21:21:23
https://smapi.io/log/d5e1898308614da0a031a3863130f9b7
outer turret
I Think 1.5.5 allows you to do the custom spouse patio without a mod
its basically implemented in vanilla (I haven't tried it yet though)
but in your case I think its just that they don't have one designed for them
unreal stratus
I'm here to get bullied
main ingot
alright you SUCK at making mods
unreal stratus
main ingot
/serious /notjoking
unreal stratus
figuratively? /li
arctic solstice
is there something i can do to try and have my game load. smapi is just frozen rn
dire fractal
Anyone have a download the Romance Willy mod?
keen crow
Free the Willy
main ingot
there is looking for love, but it is currently being rewritten by foggywizard
dusky canyon
"NOOOO"
dire fractal
Ah that's too bad
main ingot
i believe there is a 1.5 patch still available on nexus though, so you can probably still grab it
but the original mod is being rewritten from scratch
main ingot
is there something i can do to try and have my game load. smapi is just frozen r...
if you have jason (derulo) assets, that might be holding you up
arctic solstice
i have json on it but that usually doesnt make it freeze
dusky canyon
do you have sve
arctic solstice
yea, i've tried loading it a few times
dire fractal
i believe there is a 1.5 patch still available on nexus though, so you can proba...
Can't seem to find it thanks though
gaunt gust
yea, i've tried loading it a few times
!log
native dragonBOT
@arctic solstice Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dusky canyon
also if you load your game, don't click around and don't select anything in the smapi window
if you want your game to load up faster, remove sve
arctic solstice
main ingot
cant load nagito's stuff... inch resting
also:
These mods could not be added to your game. 19:37:59 ERROR SMAPI - assets\Honorific because it contains files, but none of them are manifest.json. 19:37:59 ERROR SMAPI - assets\Lewis because it contains files, but none of them are manifest.json. 19:37:59 ERROR SMAPI - assets\Marriage because it contains files, but none of them are manifest.json. 19:37:59 ERROR SMAPI - assets\NotHonorific because it contains files, but none of them are manifest.json. 19:37:59 ERROR SMAPI - Mi's and Magimatica Country Furniture because it's an empty folder. 19:37:59 ERROR SMAPI - Tractor Remodel\models because it's an empty folder. 19:37:59 ERROR SMAPI - Warm Cozy Fireplaces because it's an empty folder.
missing a lot of manifests
and empty folders