archived-modded-support

[grizzled girder]

but he has the 1.5 version qwq

so it shouldn't be doing that

[naive drum]

yeah exactly!!

and it ISN'T doing that, which is WEIRD, it's doing a Bizarre Second Type Of Error

[grizzled girder]

The former tech support person in me is screaming right now reeee

It should not be doing that at all right now xD

[naive drum]

it makes. NO SENSE. WHY is this happening. HOW is this happening,

why is JA looking for bananas

[grizzled girder]

and Taro

[naive drum]

what is telling JA to look for bananas

[quick crow]

After this.... I'm treating you all to a Chinese buffet

[naive drum]

the taro makes sense because PPJA actually currently has taro in it

[grizzled girder]

er no why is it trying to look for banana and what are the taro

[naive drum]

but the bananas???

[grizzled girder]

It's saying his taro got eaten

and it's trying to look for banana

the taro shouldn't have been eaten and the bananas don't exist ._.

[naive drum]

one file being accidentally deleted, okay, that happens
but as you put it the bananas don't exist!

why is it complaining about being unable to find the PNG for a crop it shouldn't have code for!

[grizzled girder]

One exists other doesn't but it's looking for BOTH xD

Who let a monkey into that mod folder wwww

[quick crow]

Let me try again. Three times' a charm

[naive drum]

maybe its a cat's fault

[grizzled girder]

I blame minions

becuz banana

[naive drum]

are you trying the DGA version, unv3?

[quick crow]

I have not yet. I'm about to look for it

How is it different from the regular one ?

[dire fractal]

i wanna play on my main save but i cant since im using sve and rsv:(

[grizzled girder]

mood

[naive drum]

it uses Dynamic Game Assets, not JsonAssets

[outer turret]

can you remove the beta and downgrade everything?

[grizzled girder]

So now trying to fix Unv's mods and try to make a recolor mod xD

[naive drum]

DGA is new

[grizzled girder]

yes

You just opt out of the beta and it'll do it for you

[outer turret]

yeh, I know, I was suggesting that the person who can't play does that.

[naive drum]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/9443

[outer turret]

but I realize that was compltely obligue

[grizzled girder]

they can play just no on main save I'm in same boat qwq

[outer turret]

btw, I strongly recommend dupicating a copy of your Stardew folder (ie, call it Stardew2 or something) before opting into the beta

[grizzled girder]

So does the community post

[outer turret]

but people don't do it?

[naive drum]

Unv, you'll need to move the JA version of PPJA out of your mods folder when installing the DGA version

(and also install DGA

[grizzled girder]

Not everyone reads the community news for stuff on steam anymore

so steam kinda hid it >.>

So I'll bet some people aren't aware they should dupe the folder as a backup since they're not seeing that now hidden bit of news relating to the beta

[naive drum]

and if it's STILL getting that error without PPJA using JA at all then uhh ping pathoschild again and maybe zip up your mods folder and your save etc

[dire fractal]

why isnt sve and rsv working?

[restive zodiac]

PyTK broke in the last update.

[naive drum]

beta stardew problems

routine has been pinged about it

[restive zodiac]

Any mods that rely on it will also be broken. You can play stable

(Routine is not available for a lot of this month, so they'll be back at some point and see it, and/or someone will make an unofficial update. )

[dire fractal]

im sad now my main save is with those mods :(

[grizzled girder]

A bunch of us do x<

[dire fractal]

what am i supposed to do now?

[grizzled girder]

I made a new farm to use while I wait :>

[dire fractal]

me too but its kinda boring with out fun mods :<

[grizzled girder]

It's annoying but it's better than not playing at all qwq

[dire fractal]

ig

[grizzled girder]

I mean a good number of mods still work without them

[dire fractal]

yeah

[grizzled girder]

More Feesh :3

[dire fractal]

but it isnt as fun without exploring mods :(

[grizzled girder]

true :<

[quick crow]

You mean the [JA] subfolders that are inside the [PPJA] folders ?

[naive drum]

all the PPJA folders

[dire fractal]

i do have other games i havent touched in a while c:

[naive drum]

you're installing PPJA Redux, so you need the previous version of PPJA out of your mods folder

[grizzled girder]

There ya go :3

I'm making a recolor mod but I ran out of color ideas for the dinosaur :< and I only have 4 >w<;;

[quick crow]

Ooh ... got it. So the Redux version is a collection of all of the mods.

[grizzled girder]

that's the all in one yes

but as they mention on the page some are a bit outdated...

[dire fractal]

idk what i wanna play tho :3

[grizzled girder]

idk if you have but if not done with it No Man's Sky started its 3rd Expedtion uwu

and added cities

[quick crow]

I guess I'll use the DGA until the full version of 1.5.5 comes out, so it's fine

Thank you and Wingheart for guiding me through this disaster

[grizzled girder]

It still is weird you're getting those errors and I don't and I have a 1.5.5 version

o7

[quick crow]

Actually .... I tried it a third time

https://smapi.io/log/1b8471b104af468e9582ad4e600dc6b5

The other 2 errors are gone , but the BANANA is still there

[grizzled girder]

and it's not the tree that's still there either

it's the PUDDING

why does it insist that there should be banana DX

[quick crow]

Hahaha

At least the missing items thing is gone

[grizzled girder]

yeah the salt and pepper got found 8)

[quick crow]

I simply reinstalled all 3 mods that were causing the errors

[grizzled girder]

really random those went missing guess they got knocked off the table

[quick crow]

Probably must've made some kind of mistake when replacing the collection version with the individuals

[thorny crystal]

My game suddenly refuses to launch? It was fine last night, now I started it and it gives this: https://smapi.io/log/bb7387e2d4434b71a27b5f5b8181411d

[naive drum]

update your beta smapi

[thorny crystal]

oh

oh there's a pin

[naive drum]

the beta stardew updated to add support for custom farm types and languages that do not replace existing things

so smapi had to update to support that

[thorny crystal]

yay that worked, thanks

[outer turret]

rename your beta folder, opt out of the beta and redownload 1.5.4 SDV, then reinstall a selection that you want to play with

[thorny crystal]

Does anyone know if Walk of Life will be updated? Last message from the author on nexus was from July

[dire fractal]

what

[outer turret]

you had to opt in for 1.5.5

[dire fractal]

no?

or what

idk

[thorny crystal]

Also does anyone know anything about Love of Cooking for SDV beta? Apparently it's not compatible and by Yoba I had no idea I would miss that mod so much 😭

[dire fractal]

i am confused

[thorny crystal]

Owh well never mind, apparently the latest beta update broke a lot of essential mods

[outer turret]

since 1.5.5 isn't officially released, you presumably had to go into Steam and say "please let me use the beta". Well you can go into Steam and tick the box again to have it revert to 1.5.4. And then everything will work again.

[grizzled girder]

I would try the mod in 1.5 since not all mods NEED an update for them to work in the beta

Most of the mods in my game haven't had a beta update and still work fine it's stuff that needs pytk that died :<

[naive drum]

walk of life in particular is known to be broke nin the beta

[grizzled girder]

oh if it's in that boat then nvm ^^;

[left yoke]

Will it cloud save if i use mods and switch on two different devices?

[thorny crystal]

yea I tried using Walk of Life and it broke completely

but PyTK isn't working now so I can't play anyway because SVE is depending on it

[dusky canyon]

Does PyTK also not work with the newest SMAPI beta update?

[thorny crystal]

nope

[dusky canyon]

whaaaaaaaaaaa noo

[thorny crystal]

yeaaap

[dusky canyon]

I've seen Routine like only once a month or something updating their mods :< soooo much mods I use, use Pytk aaagh

[opaque panther]

Hi guys! Nice to meet you ❤️ I'm fairly new to mods (I've just ever changed a couple portraits) and I'm looking into spicing up the vanilla game. Is there anyway for us to tick and untick mods so that they work when we want them too? I have older safe files and I'm worried about them breaking with the new mods. Also I'm not very computer savy, so I'm wary about moving too many folders around.

[chrome cosmos]

putting a . infront of a mod folder stops it from loading!

[shut violet]

you can also make different mod groups and switch if you want

(but this require making folders and shortcuts)

[opaque panther]

Ohh I see. Do you know of any SVE install guides that are reliable? Especially with the last patch update

[royal arrow]

.quote 5302

[devout pumice]

[#5302] "This is your PSA that Stardew Valley Expanded (SVE) has a detailed installation guide here~ https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/Install-guide" - @royal arrow (25 Jan 2021 @ 12:13:20 PM UTC)

[royal arrow]

The official one ⬆️

Although the latest update that dropped yesterday caused some issues

Since it's been less than a day, people will need time to update

[opaque panther]

Will it work then or should I be careful with something?

[royal arrow]

This person here said SVE isn't working with the latest beta update

[thorny crystal]

yeap

[royal arrow]

I personally don't use SVE so idk

[thorny crystal]

any mods that depend on PyTK won't work with the latest beta

[opaque panther]

Okay thanks! It's good to know

[merry juniper]

damn thats terrible timing 😄 just started a modded game with some friends, that will have to be paused for however long now. but thanks for the heads up 🙂

[dire fractal]

yeah i have mods with it on my main save and on a multiplayer too and yeah it sucks :(

[outer turret]

why are players even using the beta? For the 64bit i presume?

[dire fractal]

idk

[outer turret]

I"m staying away from it until its stable/officially released.

why are you using it Crqtz?

[dire fractal]

beta stardew or beta sve or beta smapi?

what beta

[unreal raptor]

Oh no 😂 I have TERRIBLE timing. I just downloaded East Scarp which needs PyTK
I do not have the beta…

does this mean it should be fine, or does it mean I should remove the mod and wait until things are updated?

[dire fractal]

idk

im waiting

[reef bolt]

If you're not using the beta then it should be fine I think

[unreal raptor]

okay I will try it and see

[dire fractal]

for sve u need npc fixes and that mod needs 1.13.0 beta or later smapi to work

[coral lance]

Hey lads! I just downloaded Ui Info suit, but it seems to be buggy if I play with anything lower than 100% zoom. I like to play at 75%. Anyone knows a fix? Thank you

[agile dove]

this. I tried reverting to non-beta but SVE still don't work because of NPC fixes

[somber iris]

@coral lance UIInfoSuite2 by Annosz fixes that issue and adds a couple other things as well.

[coral lance]

Brilliant. Thanks mate 🙂

[dire fractal]

same

[coral lance]

is it on nexus mod? o:

[somber iris]

Github. https://github.com/Annosz/UIInfoSuite2

[coral lance]

Awesome! Thanks again

[somber iris]

Np

[eager axle]

hi guys. if you're experienced, i really need your help. i got an error while clicking on the book in the community center and after removing all mods it still happened. My log here https://smapi.io/log/8eab4b7a028c42a0982205d7f18e1a27

[chrome cosmos]

ah, i see youre playing on a non-english version of the game?

do you remember if you started your save before updating to SMAPI 3.12.6 or after?

[finite dust]

does anyone know a good mod that adds more options for hair and clothing

the current ones just aint cutting it 😦

[outer turret]

I'm not using the beta and everything is fine. Although if you are using ES 1.7 it does have an issue with EMP. IF you have any errors let me know and I'll feed you the updated ES 2.0.

[eager axle]

hi skell, is it me you're talking about?

[chrome cosmos]

yes! :)

[eager axle]

oh, thank you! it's true, i didn't get any error earlier, i just downloaded and used the smapi 3.12.6 today

i thought it was okay with the 1.5.4 version on steam

[dire fractal]

Which ones are you using currently?

[chrome cosmos]

it is okay! but SMAPI 3.12.6 actually fixes that issue as long as you start a new save with it, which wasnt the case here unfortunately x.x

so the only solution for now would be to start over, and it shouldn’t happen again

[finite dust]

none

[high crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/599692462033862686.gif?size=64

[eager axle]

oooh, so that's the case. thank you very much

[dire fractal]

Did you take a look at the ones offered on Nexus? Barberella is pretty neat.

[finite dust]

thanks ^^

I was looking for smth more like Coii's girl sets mod

unfortunately that one is no longer supported by SMAPI 😦

[finite dust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2872

[rapid ivy]

@finite dust
I have a female hair mod that works still. lemme double check what it's called

I use Curvy Girl for more clothes (I change a few settings for it in Generic Mod Config Menu) since I don't really like Get Glam all that much. It's a wonderful mod but doesn't do what I need it to 😅

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8138?tab=posts here's the hair mod

[finite dust]

thank you! ^^

[sleek eagle]

I'm trying out the better Juminos mod https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2221?tab=description

but I can't seem to find a config.json folder as stated in the description of the mod

[finite dust]

I also really like the Curvy Girl thing, but can you turn the way they make your chest bulge off

[rapid ivy]

I'll check. That part, I'm not sure about

[finite dust]

tysm sorry for the inconvinience

[rapid ivy]

no worries. All good 🙂

[blazing gulch]

I am in android... and Ras just told me to go to the summit with him tonight... WHAT DO I DO!?

[rapid ivy]

by the looks of it, unfortunately you can't @finite dust I don't see a setting for it :/

[finite dust]

ohh I see thank you

[blazing gulch]

Where is the summit-

[finite dust]

endgame

super endgame

probably the last thing you'll ever see

[thorny crystal]

I believe I had some mods that didn't work unless I got the beta, I don't remember for sure, so I got it.
Now it's not working again because I got the beta 😂 😂 catch 22 much?

[dire fractal]

i just downloaded Smapi, can i go and download mods now or is there another thing i need to download?

out of curiosity

did they changed something in Stadrew valley expanded for 1.5 version of game?

[blazing gulch]

Anyone here using the romance ras mod?

Im at the last cutscene but im in mobile and i need to go to the summit but it says the map is included in the mod-

Help...

[blazing gulch]

Anyone?

[dire fractal]

What's the problem exactly? Is the summit not accessible for you?

[hidden patio]

The summit is a 1.5 update per the wiki.

You would have to wait for mobile to update to that.

[dire fractal]

The summit could be accessed before 1.5 by mods - or by glitching out of bounds. But then you'd just see a bunch of messy tiles. (unless a Modder fixed it).

[agile gyro]

Man, selling hallucinogens does make you rich

[gloomy meadow]

oh yeah, profit beatch

[hollow basalt]

so ofc pyTK broke but my main question was that i could put in hair into stardew, since the Non hair resource was too hard for me, i just used GetGlam and made hair packs myself , which was so much easier and volia, i got the hair i wanted from the Naver site and put them in, only for personal use, i wouldnt share them as its not my mod

[chrome cosmos]

nice! but be careful, get glam is incredibly buggy

[hollow basalt]

oh i know, i did some reading, but i am only using it for hair really, nothing else, JA does the clothing, and i have get dressed anywhere(?) i think its called, for the mirror so, as long as i watch what i put in , should be ok

[dire fractal]

anyone know what's going on here?
https://smapi.io/log/05844f16c344454f9e8d715ecf075f15

[chrome cosmos]

update SMAPI to the latest beta, but be warned that it will break PyTK

[dire fractal]

shiiit, there's a new smapi update but pytk isn't updated yet?

[chrome cosmos]

nope :(

the only solution rn is to fully downgrade to 1.5.4 and SMAPI 3.12.6 until an update comes out for PyTK

[dire fractal]

70% of my mods use pytk so i suppose i'll just have to play another game till then

it shouldn't take too long for it to update i reckon

[chrome cosmos]

uhh, not sure tbh. i heard the PyTK mod author is busy so it might take a while? not sure

[dire fractal]

oh damn that's not good

yeah

its sad

like all my farms and multiplayer farms are with sve and such

literally so many mods depend on pytk so that's gonna really fuck up the mod community

yeah

mod author should honestly give the source for another mod dev to update if they're too busy

[unreal raptor]

I think I have 1.7? The nexus version was whatever the most recent is. I just looked around! It’s so cool! Thanks for having a great mod.

[dire fractal]

i just made pie

[dire fractal]

that would work?

[gloomy meadow]

does pytk not work on 64bit beta?

[chrome cosmos]

PyTK's source code is available, but most mod authors are busy with their own projects, its not their responsibility to fix it

[chrome cosmos]

with the latest SMAPI update, no

[dire fractal]

the trouble is downgrading isn't really an option for me because 32bit gives my game constant memory crashes

[dire fractal]

blueberry pie

also i burnt my arm and finger :(

worth it tho

and there's nothing i can do for those but run the game on 64bit

[gloomy meadow]

I installed the beta 64bit version with smapi beta 3.13 and so far everything is normal here
I run with 390 mods

but I had to spend good minutes updating mods

[floral harness]

@dusky canyon nvidia crashes when I try to open the control panel ever since I clicked on program settings like bruh

So I can't change anything now

[dire fractal]

when did smapi update? i haven't been around in a couple of days

i was playing wolfquest

[chrome cosmos]

it updated today

[dire fractal]

it did?

damn i picked a bad time to get back to the game

[dire fractal]

include pytk?

[dire fractal]

i cant update whenever i open the black window it just crashes/closes

this most recent comment on pytk's nexus page really captures the energy

rip

[chrome cosmos]

you need to download the new update from smapi.io

[gloomy meadow]

well, until yesterday before I went to sleep yes, but I opened it now to see the exact number of mods and it isn't even opening

wtf is happening here

[wheat crest]

i have the same problem

update smapi fixed it

[dire fractal]

smapi updated

[chrome cosmos]

thats because you need to update smapi

[dire fractal]

but if you're running pytk with your mods, those mods aren't gonna work

[wheat crest]

then PyTK will break cause of the new smapi lmfao

[dire fractal]

and a lot of mods run with pytk so be careful

[dire fractal]

sad

[dire fractal]

this is becuse beta 1.5.5 update... smapi update too... then pytk broke

[chrome cosmos]

click more info and then run anyways

[gloomy meadow]

oh sheet

[dire fractal]

oh okey

[dire fractal]

welcome to the chaos

damn why smapi guy gotta drop an update at 4 am

we'r in the same boat

[dire fractal]

idk

annoying but idk

[snow fox]

Because he doesnt live in America

[dire fractal]

i'm not complaining that's very relatable

[wheat crest]

cause it might be daytime for the dev

[gloomy meadow]

😔

[dire fractal]

oh true

i forgot america wasn't the only country on earth

[hoary musk]

Woke up, finding out that I need to update SMAPI. Update SMAPI and finds that PYTK is broke.... oh boy

[snow fox]

Yeah, i just switched to the linux version last week and now that is obsolete

[agile dove]

Just to make sure i'm not missing anything; downgrading from the beta to previous versions wont help folks who play SVE, correct? Is there any workaround for SVE players or is a patient waiting scenario for the pytk update?

[chrome cosmos]

im still on the linux version, its working perfectly as long as you dont update SMAPI beyond 3.12.5 🤷

[dire fractal]

god i'm just realizing now how many frameworks besides pytk i have may have to update

[dire fractal]

idk what it is :(

[chrome cosmos]

what platform did you get stardew on? steam or gog?

[dire fractal]

steam

[chrome cosmos]

thats weird, it should be able to detect it

go into the folder that has your Mods folder and copy the path, and paste it into the console

[dire fractal]

ok

[dire fractal]

paste the install folder of the smapi into the installation folder of the sdv, then run the .bat... works for me

actually as far as i can see no frameworks have updated yet

though i guess some might not need to

idk anything about modding

installation folder: \steamapps\common\Stardew Valley

[dire fractal]

go into your steam folder and then go to steamapps\common\Stardew Valley

then click on the file explorer and copy paste that file path into the window

ok

[snow fox]

so do we have to wait for a pytk update to play with those mods?

[dire fractal]

yes

[dire fractal]

yea looks like it

[snow fox]

im not losing my mind.........

[dire fractal]

i may have to wait for several frameworks besides pytk to update since my mods use a metric fuckton of them

[snow fox]

same

[dusky canyon]

try updating your drivers with Nvidia Geforce Experience

[floral harness]

Tried that, it says there was an unexpected error idk what to do anymore

[dire fractal]

try typing \Stardew Valley.exe after the file path

sorry i may have forgot to mention that

[dusky canyon]

heh that's strange. tried restarting?

[floral harness]

I tried to update drivers around 2 weeks ago or so

And tried again after some days

And yeah I tried restarting the pc lol

And turning on/off, went to reddit for the disk problem and yeah

I have genuinely no clue and idk anyone who has had this issue before

Hopefully I will solve this later today with a friend who helped me format my pc a month ago

[floral harness]

It affects all games and yeah stardew too

[dire fractal]

im giving up

[gloomy meadow]

backup your saves just in case, uninstall stardew and download again from steam. after downloading it, open it at least once, close it and try installing smapi again
maybe that way it automatically detects

[dire fractal]

im stupid how do i backup save?

[dire fractal]

try this

D:\Spel\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Stardew Valley.dll

[gloomy meadow]

go to windows start menu, type ''%appdata%'', open the roaming folder and go to stardew valley > saves

make a copy of this saves folder somewhere on your pc

[dire fractal]

ok ty

[dire fractal]

nop

ok replace dll with .exe again

i think the first time it screwed up cause there was a " in that filepath

[somber iris]

Crafty have you opted into the stardew beta on steam?

[dire fractal]

sorry i'm fumbling because i've never had to paste the file path in before so i'm not 100% on this

[dire fractal]

i dont think so idk

open \SMAPI 3.13.0-beta.20210903 installer\internal\windows\ rename the install.dat file to install.zip
extract to SDV installation folder... this is the manual way to install smapi

Did you move your SV Folder out of the Steamapps Folder ? Like to your desktop or smth?

[dire fractal]

no

README for SMAPI

--------------------------------
THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR MOST PLAYERS. See instructions above instead.
If you really want to install SMAPI manually, here's how.

1. Unzip "internal/windows/install.dat" (on Windows) or "internal/unix/install.dat" (on
   Linux/macOS). You can change '.dat' to '.zip', it's just a normal zip file renamed to prevent
   confusion.
2. Copy the files from the folder you just unzipped into your game folder. The
   `StardewModdingAPI.exe` file should be right next to the game's executable.
3.
  - Windows only: if you use Steam, see the install guide above to enable achievements and
    overlay. Otherwise, just run StardewModdingAPI.exe in your game folder to play with mods.```

[dire fractal]

just did now it works ty

[somber iris]

Like voiceless said, backup your saves, then go to your steam library > right click Stardew > Betas > Choose monogame64 from the dropdown. This should allow you to install the smapi beta,

Okay yeah

Lmao np

[dire fractal]

yw

I canr find fun mods cri

Mobile has suck a low amount of mods

Cricricri

[dire fractal]

lol... I had assumed he had already done that

Me cri

lol

[torpid obsidian]

I tried downgrading and the game works but it stops you from loading save files that you've played with the beta

[agile dove]

I tried downgrading as well, but I got an error that said SVE wont load because it needs NPC Fixes...and NPC fixes needs SMAPI Beta 😦

[chrome cosmos]

you need to downgrade all your mods if youre downgrading your game and SMAPI versions

[agile dove]

makes sense, but I guess as @torpid obsidian pointed out, it wont matter unless you don't mind starting over anyway

[dire fractal]

https://smapi.io/log/226894dd99f64edb9354745c26489fb0

what?

[chrome cosmos]

you didnt update SMAPI

[dire fractal]

oh ok

[rough spindle]

@wind elm Just a question. Is there any idea of an update for PYTK in the works? I have run into an error with a couple of mods and i went to Nexus to post and i am seeing other issues that are the same as mine but not addressed.

[proper shell]

The question is: what in the new beta and smapi made pytk break? And is there a way for the dev of smapi to fix the issue on the smapi side instead of waiting for platonymous to update pytk?
I don't know how else to phrase this...

[dire fractal]

no, pytk gotta update. u can also downgrade all ur mods and stardew also smapi

i think

[wheat crest]

I downgraded both the game and smapi to the previous beta version and everything works again, guess i'm sticking with this till pytk update

[somber iris]

This PyTK thing sparked my interest for programming again, maybe I'll do some research and see if I could do it for fun, no promises

[dire fractal]

the code is on github i think

[hollow basalt]

https://github.com/Platonymous/Stardew-Valley-Mods/tree/master/PyTK

think this is it?

[dire fractal]

yeah

[somber iris]

Nice, I'll def take a look later

[proper shell]

I somewhat found a way to still use your beta save after 'downgrading' to non-beta. it requires some save file editing. and it throws out some error texts in the smapi log.
After loading the world I checked for anything missing etc. and it seemed fine. But the errors remained even after saving again

and idk if that has any long term consequences to the save file

[wheat crest]

you can just download the previous beta build using DepotDownloader and leave the save intact

[restive zodiac]

The last time I talked to Routine, they were going to be unavailable for most of September, so I'm sure they'll see all the messages when they get back. Someone may or may not make an unofficial update in the meantime; please be patient and keep in mind it is a beta testing branch 😄

[proper shell]

@wheat crestcould you maybe explain that to me in dms? like share links and stuff?

[dire fractal]

can u use ur before beta saves in beta?

[hoary musk]

I'll probably take a short break from Stardew, this'll give me a chance to go through my backlog. In the mean time, I'll be keeping my eye on here to see if there's an unofficial update or something for PYTK.

[dire fractal]

yeah

i just dont know what i wanna play

coz im in my stardew phase rn but i dont wanna play with out mods

[hoary musk]

There's a few mods besides PYTK that I'm waiting for an update for. So I've used that to play other games. I'm so used to modding that going back to vanilla will be... very weird for me lol

[wheat crest]

check your dm

[dire fractal]

yeah i would do that but idk what to play

[torpid obsidian]

Would you mind sending how to do it to me as well?

[dire fractal]

@chrome cosmos

[chrome cosmos]

yes you can

but you cant do the opposite

[dire fractal]

ah ok

[wheat crest]

dm-ed

[ocean obsidian]

Is it possible to both use mods that require 1.3.4 of Quest Framework and 1.4?

Thinking of downloading these 2 specific mods through Vortex so it can resolve conflicts

but I dont' want to touch Vortex again

[tired brook]

@flat silo Sorry for the delay! I can't reproduce that with the save you sent me though. What are the specific steps to cause it?

Here's what I tried:

1. Launch the game.
2. Set the language to German.
3. Load your save.
4. Warp to the community center using debug warp comm in the SMAPI console window.
5. Interact with the bundle tile. That shows the Junimo text and starts the wizard quest.
6. Warp to the wizard tower using debug warp wizard to see the event which lets me read Junimo text (and skipped the event).
7. Warp back to the community center using debug warp comm.
8. Check the bundles.

[flat silo]

thank you so much for the reply!! ok so for my save it doesn't matter THAT much as i'm only 5 days into the game, i can just start a new save. But my steps are basically just launching the game, loading my save, walking to the community center, interacting with the bundle tile. that's where things break.

[snow prism]

Achat isnt german... what does it usually say there?

"Bundle"?

it is german its a type of quartz

which doesnt make sense regardless

[snow prism]

did you try to reset your gamefiles?

[old spire]

agate doesnt sound right

in french it means purchase

idk what translation nonsense is happening

[flat silo]

do you have a guide for that?

[snow prism]

!reset

[native dragon]

See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files for instructions on resetting your game files! (This doesn't affect your save files.) You may also want to check this list of XNB > Content Patcher conversions (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher) to see if there are already replacements for any XNB mods you may have been using :)

[flat silo]

oh verifying the integrity of my game files? yeah i did that

[snow prism]

if you try what pathos said in a new save, does it fail too?

[flat silo]

i will check

ok so, i think someone mentioned that. the update of smapi fixed the issue, but not for the files i created before the update. it'll be fine now, for the new saves

[rough spindle]

Thank you for the update.

[lapis merlin]

Me and my friend keep having this error. Something to do with spacecore on day transitions. Any ideas?

[neat plaza]

!Log

[native dragon]

Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[lapis merlin]

Thank you

Ach i dont have the text file

[dire fractal]

On Windows:
Press the Windows and R buttons at the same time.
In the 'run' box that appears, enter this exact text:
%appdata%\StardewValley\ErrorLogs
The log file is SMAPI-crash.txt if it exists, otherwise SMAPI-latest.txt.

[lapis merlin]

No I know

This just happened last night and i think the log has been overwritten

[neat plaza]

try reproduce the error

[dire fractal]

yeah.. today is fine again?

run smapi again and try to reproduce the error, then share the log

[lapis merlin]

We’ll attempt it later cuz it only happens in MP

[dire fractal]

ah.. well

[lapis merlin]

Sorry my friend isnt open till a bit later

;~; i’ll get the log as soon as possible

[hidden patio]

Are you both using the same mods/versions of mods?

[lapis merlin]

Yup

[native dragon]

@lapis merlin You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[hidden patio]

Yeah, would need the full log to see what's up then.

[lapis merlin]

Will do

Oh hey my name is blue now

Neet

Also, this is an unrelated issue, but I’m noticing some recipes aren’t in my crafting page anymore

Do recipes get replaced if you have too many?

[neat plaza]

i dont think so

[lapis merlin]

Weird

Because i’m missing both the explosive ammo recipe and the placeable mineshaft recipe

Wait nevermind, I’m just not combat level 8 yet. But the mineshaft recipe being missing is still odd

[crisp coral]

Any plans on updating PyTK? it#s currently broken I assume

[hollow zinc]

hello friends! Does anyone here use the convenient chests mod?

[fringe shore]

No word yet, but that's not surprising considering the latest breaking beta changes seem to have happened literally today.

It's kind of annoying, because I was actually in the middle of a playthrough and I switched to 64 bit for the greater stability. Ironic that an update to the game would require an update to SMAPI and would break compatibility for several of my mods, but Steam is a complete butt about letting you control updates. I'm pretty sure even trying to revert one minor version would require going through the depot...

[ocean obsidian]

how do I share log

👀

[fringe shore]

!log

[native dragon]

Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[ocean obsidian]

https://smapi.io/log/ecab683f6bd84f79ab32ed622390af6c

not sure how to get log file, but I copied log text before my game crashed

[fringe shore]

?

[crisp coral]

Yeah I had a tough week so far and I wanted to relax a bit.... Subnautica it is

[fringe shore]

Yeah... I just don't really feel like dicking with it. I suppose I'll wait a few days and see if something gets fixed one way or the other, and in the meantime I suppose I'll play... Dead Cells maybe. Or Psychonauts 2.

[crisp coral]

Same. at least I get to bed in time. Also many of my mods require PyTK so i't unplayable for me anyways

[dire fractal]

I’m trying to download stardew valley expanded but it doesn’t let me, it also says that I need premium to download mods over 2MB/S. Is this a problem

I try pressing the install manually button and nothing is happening

[snow fox]

We need more lgbtq+ freindly mods

[dire fractal]

Agree

Nexus really makes it seem like I need premium to download stuff

[dire fractal]

agreed

[tiny bronze]

there are multiple files for sdve. together, theyre over 2, so download them separately

[dire fractal]

Ok

[tiny bronze]

you never need premium

[dire fractal]

Great

[neat plaza]

nope

[tiny bronze]

most stardew mods are small enough or can be separated into multiple downloads

[neat plaza]

you're just maxed at 2mb/s for dl speed

so technically sve might take a minute

[dire fractal]

So this one?

[tiny bronze]

yeah

[dire fractal]

And then manual download?

[tiny bronze]

yep

[neat plaza]

yes

[dire fractal]

Ok great thanks

The tutorial I was watching must have downloaded a lighter mod in that case

Or it was just outdated

[languid relic]

Does anyone have 1.4 version of sv

[neat plaza]

mobile users

[languid relic]

[neat plaza]

why do you need it anyway? xD

[languid relic]

I’m just tryna get hardwood and bundles done

[neat plaza]

(you're on pc, right?)

[languid relic]

iOS and pc

I’m tryna edit my iOS save

@neat plaza

[neat plaza]

you're able to get saves off ios?

[languid relic]

Yea..

They work with 1.4

[neat plaza]

isnt that like
a nono for apple?

[languid relic]

Stardews and exception apparently

I’ve save edited before

I gave money and edited relationships

I can’t edit inv and bundles

[neat plaza]

https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader

[dire fractal]

The mod said I need all of these things aswell, should they already be in the game or do I have to download them separately?

The only thing I have is Smapi

[neat plaza]

dotnet DepotDownloader.dll -app 413150 -depot 413151 -manifest <manifest ID> -username <username> -password <password> is the cmd for sdv

[languid relic]

Tried it,I’m too dumb to use it

[languid relic]

Oh shit

Thanks

[neat plaza]

you open a cmd line in the folder you put depotdownloader in

[languid relic]

Here do I get manifest

[neat plaza]

6307986820908740561

is the 1.4.5 manifest id

[languid relic]

Thanks

I’ll try again now

[dire fractal]

So do I have to go download more things before I download star dew valley expanded or are they already included in the base game and/or smapi?

[neat plaza]

aside from those, nop

[languid relic]

@neat plaza for username and password do I do my my steam account.

[neat plaza]

yes

[languid relic]

What if I’m using family share

[neat plaza]

(so that it isnt used for piracy, and so the DRM works on some games)

[neat plaza]

🤷

so idea what that is

[languid relic]

[fringe shore]

You do have to download all those things that SVE says it requires. You don't need anything except those, but you do need all of those.

[fringe shore]

That is an extremely bad candidate for an emoji...

[dire fractal]

Ok, do they take up a lot of space? Because I don’t have much left

[fringe shore]

No, a great deal less than SVE itself does.

[dire fractal]

Ok great

And I just install them like I would any other mod

[fringe shore]

Pretty much.

[dire fractal]

Ok

Thank you for all your help and I’m sorry if I’m asking a lot of questions

[fringe shore]

It's fine.

[dire fractal]

I’m really bad at this Xd

When I was little I got hacked trying to download a Peter Griffin minecraft skin and ever since I’ve been super careful with these things

[tired brook]

That's from a mod, so probably just a bug in that mod.

[languid relic]

[echo charm]

cant play Stardew Valley Expended because PyTK isnt updated

[dire fractal]

yeha

[full ledge]

So while using mods my boyfriend and I were having server issues. While trying to fix it our farm was reset and we were sent back to day one of spring. We were able to keep our money and skill levels but everything else got erased. Not for sure what to do at this point we were a couple years in before it got deleted.

[chrome cosmos]

!saves

...is the bot down

[native dragon]

Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.

[chrome cosmos]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves#Undo_the_last_save follow this guide

oop there it is!

[echo charm]

bot just slow

[full ledge]

The saved files are gone as well

[chrome cosmos]

alright, can you check in your Stardew Valley folder for a folder name save-backups?

smapi keeps backups of your save, unzip the one you want in your Saves folder (found through the guide above)

(the host of the farm has to do this, not the farmhand i believe)

[full ledge]

I will have to look once I get home from work. Thanks you for helping tho!!

[steady swan]

Heyo! Is there any way to get SVE to work with the beta? Since it tells me that Pytk is out of date, so I'm not sure how to work around that?

[dire fractal]

only way rn is to downgrade from the beta

[chrome cosmos]

PyTK is broken, it needs an update.

[dire fractal]

or waiting

[steady swan]

Ahw, that's unfortunate, but thank you guys for the answer!

[dire fractal]

yw

man this sucks. downgrading isn't even an option for me bc my game doesn't have enough memory to run with 32bit without crashing frequently

[chrome cosmos]

you can always downgrade even further and grab the unofficial 64-bit until 1.5.5 is stable

[steady swan]

Haha, yeah, that's why I thought to try out the 64 bit beta!

[dire fractal]

how far do i have to downgrade for the unofficial one?

[echo charm]

Tried that but then it says:'version mismatch'

[chrome cosmos]

uhh im using it on 3.12.5 (since anything further than that doesnt support the unofficial version), and i can send you a log with my mods list so you could check the versions

[wheat crest]

why call it unofficial when you grabbed it directly from steam depot lmfao

[chrome cosmos]

...its literally called the unofficial 64-bit

[dire fractal]

oh god i just realized downgrading would mean also downgrading my mods

and then i'd have to go back and upgrade all over again when pytk does update

[chrome cosmos]

yuup ;-;

[dire fractal]

its just not worth it unfortunately

ty for the offer tho

[echo charm]

yea its the most annoying shit ever

[dire fractal]

guess i'm going to have to look at the 50+ unplayed games in my steam library for something else to do 😔

me: i have nothing else to play
50+ unplayed steam games: is this a joke to you

lol

funny

[wheat crest]

well if you downgrade to the 5th sept build of the beta the only thing you have to downgrade is smapi

[dire fractal]

ur so funny

[wheat crest]

but grabbing that is a pain lmfao

[crude sapphire]

what is the manifest for the 5th sept build?

[wheat crest]

dotnet DepotDownloader.dll -app 413150 -depot 413151 -manifest 4179490312952651339 -username <username> -password <password>

this is the whole command

[bleak silo]

new here - so sorry if this has already been answered but i did look above to see if it was mentioned.

would it be unwise to play my game without pytk mod and sve/rsv mods etc? i want to play and I'm fine not playing with those select mods but i don't want to mess up my save file so that it crashes once everything updates

[echo charm]

Depending what game changing mods use the Pytk mod for you

still wouldnt recommend it tho

[sudden dirge]

Does anyone know if the PYTK mod will ever get updated? I am still running errors

[neat plaza]

because the way you make it windows-able is unofficial?

[tired brook]

@grizzled girder Can you post a screenshot of your Mods\[PPJA] Fruits and Veggies\[JA] Fruits and Veggies\Crops\Paddy Taro folder?

[echo charm]

The creator was online last 4 september or something

So it is possible that it is going to be updated

[sudden dirge]

People on Nexus mods have been having issues even before September and have not been answered as of yet. I am still having issues with the PYTK mod

[tired brook]

PyTK broke in last night's Stardew Valley 1.5.5 update, not the SMAPI update. Unfortunately it'll need to be updated for the latest game changes.

For the manifest question, you can set the minimum API version to 3.13.0-beta.

I'm not aware of any issue with that; I just tested it from a custom game path and it worked fine for me.

[crude sapphire]

I will check out to the commits before your update yesterday and make my local build

[echo charm]

I was able to play on 1.5.5 beta on monday

[restive zodiac]

Routine pretty much never answers Nexus comments/reports, but if you are on the beta, PyTK is broken and will be broken until there's an update, official or otherwise. Like I said, the last time I talked to the author, they said they would be unavailable until late September.

Someone may make an unofficial update in the meantime, but it is not likely to be me, hehe

[tired brook]

(I'll take a look if nobody else does, but it might be a few days until I can do that.)

[worthy moth]

The Pathos list grows....

[restive zodiac]

(I think I could fix it if it was just the water tiles, but I also needed to do all the h armony migrating and I was confused by some of the patches )

[worthy moth]

https://tenor.com/view/list-amazinggrace-court-watching-scroll-gif-13488308

[snow fox]

You guys do a lot of work for the Stardew Modding community

I hope you get the proper appreciation you deserve

[restive zodiac]

"You guys" is like 99.5% Pathos so he probably doesn't

[dire fractal]

I agree they are super helpful

[chrome cosmos]

(you can also always support pathos by subscribing to his pateron!)

(and other modders too if they have one available!)

[snow fox]

^^

[upper ember]

So uh, where's the update for Automate? Nexus says it has an update, was updated on August 19th so I assume beta, but it's not listed anywhere in the files

[late nebula]

Is the manifest outdated?

[upper ember]

Nexus itself says it has an update, like on their page, and then in the "last updated" thing

I'm assuming it got removed to avoid the confusion of people downloading beta files when they didn't need to?

But ah, where is the download for those that are updating to it xD

[sudden dirge]

I truly appreciate it. As I have always told you.... I truly appreciate all you do for the mods you take care of. And all you have done and are doing to help out

[tired brook]

There's no need to get the beta version; the latest Automate 1.23.2 should work fine in the beta. If that's the version you have and you're still getting an update alert for it, can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log/ and post the link here?

[upper ember]

I just updated to the beta Smapi and game last night, so I haven't yet checked my Smapi's log ( I'm just updating what I know needs updating, then I'll check ) , will do if it shows up there! I was just getting the bulk of what I could off of the Nexus all time favorites page where it has the update available tag in the corner and was wondering about it

[sudden dirge]

@tired brook can you help me here with this error? https://smapi.io/log/8837b7e3af9342e0983649ec97a70bb6

[rough spindle]

https://smapi.io/log/8bfe02ff292141fbbbb8afb89d5b9865 same issue

[tired brook]

You can update to the latest SMAPI 3.13.0 beta to fix that: https://smapi.io/.

[sudden dirge]

Thanks again

[smoky ore]

hey, I just installed smapi and got it working. is it recommended I install mods by just using my files? or to use a mod manager like vortex?

[upper ember]

First time loading up the beta stuff

[late nebula]

Don't use mod managers.

[smoky ore]

okay, unnecessary ?

[upper ember]

Vortex is known to cause issues resulting in mods not being installed properly or refusing to work

[late nebula]

They will mess stuff up.

[smoky ore]

alright

[upper ember]

Manually installing them is much safer and is very very easy to do

[smoky ore]

there's not a lot of conflicts or something?

[late nebula]

A lot of mods conflict

[upper ember]

Just install Smapi, download your mods, unzip them, put them directly into your Mods folder that Smapi creates

No, Vortex eats files

[smoky ore]

bruh

[upper ember]

It deletes them randomly and doesn't update things properly

[restive zodiac]

Some people like to use managers, but SMAPI handles load order and can do multiple folders, etc, so I could not personally recommend them unless the person using them was also familiar with any tweaks they might need to make to account for the manager they are using. Check out https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Install_mods for a "howto" if you haven't already!

[umbral bone]

guys i want to download smapi but i dont know how is my sdv version, how is see it?

[smoky ore]

thank you mouse

I will read that

[upper ember]

You likely have 1.5.4 if you're using PC. You have 1.4 if you're using mobile

[umbral bone]

oh thx

[upper ember]

As to get the beta you have to manually enable and download it

[smoky ore]

oh is that worth it? getting the beta?

I thought concernedape stopped updating the game

[restive zodiac]

It's not a content update, but is updating to 64bit for game pass and adding some modder requests and bug fixing! Not all mods will be working at all times during beta testing, so if you're just starting out and want stuff to work, it's probably safest to stick with stable.

[upper ember]

If you're having OOM issues, it's worth a shot. If you aren't, then it's fine to wait for the full release of it

He's working with Pathos and modders!

[smoky ore]

Okay so I don't really read anything on the wiki about conflicts between mods, do i look on the mod pages for that? or is there general rules

[smoky ore]

alright I'll do that

[restive zodiac]

(OOM as in out of memory; people with huge mod lists were running into errors)

[smoky ore]

ohh

[upper ember]

Most mods work fine together, if there's conflicts, it'll be listed on the mod's Nexus page

[smoky ore]

I am not planning to mod heavily

but I asumme I can't like... download 15 mods that texture the same bush

or does it just pick the highest priority one

[restive zodiac]

It depends on how the mod is made.

[smoky ore]

ow okay

[upper ember]

I think it picks the one loaded last usually?

[fringe shore]

You might get an error, you might just have one of them win randomly.

[upper ember]

But yeah, just kinda depends

[smoky ore]

okay ill just try and see what happens

thanks a bunch

[restive zodiac]

If a modder created a mod that completely replaces the asset by Loading it, only one mod can ever load that asset. Anything else that tries will make them all fail. But edits can all live in harmony, and the last one to apply will win.

[smoky ore]

Is there like any post for mods that are good for first modded run? other than SVE

[upper ember]

!modrecs

[native dragon]

Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.

[restive zodiac]

Check out https://smapi.io/log -- it will tell you how to find your log file and will parse it for you for any errors etc

[smoky ore]

ooo

[upper ember]

I personally can't live without some mods, mainly Automate, Visible Fish, Bigger Silo, AdoptnSkin, things like that, but I'm also lazy and like visuals to things, so

[sudden dirge]

@tired brook sorry to bother you again but I just ran into a whole bunch of errors after updating again on SMAPI. Here is my log: https://smapi.io/log/3cfec05fadd6408fbe7397cd484f2e8b

[smoky ore]

Automate seems nice

[restive zodiac]

Mod recommendations are really down to taste, yeah, especially for first time!

[upper ember]

Oh, those who work in the beta, content patcher animations really mess up the game, right?

[rough spindle]

https://smapi.io/log/641ca6565a6a4c92a5e2f840180ee4d9 Same errors

[upper ember]

Or has that been fixed?

[smoky ore]

yeah I just want to avoid broken mods honestly

[restive zodiac]

PyTK is broken in the latest update, and it's required for a lot of other mods.

[sudden dirge]

I know that is broken

[sudden dirge]

So they all fall under PYTK then?

[smoky ore]

I see mods that add more crops and more artisan goods, are those well balanced and fun to play with?

seems kind of bloaty

[upper ember]

It depends on your tastes. I personally love modded crops, but others don't. Some love more artisan goods, some don't. As for balanced, some are, some aren't and are just there for fun, usually says so on their Nexus page

[restive zodiac]

Almost all of the mods that can't be loaded are because of PyTK.

Stardew Aquarium NPCs [CP] 1.4.1 because it needs the 'Stardew Aquarium [CP]
Stardew Aquarium [CP] 1.4.1 because it needs the 'Stardew Aquarium Code'
Stardew Aquarium Code 1.4.1 because it needs the 'TMXL Map Toolkit'
TMXL Map Toolkit 1.22.1 because it needs the 'PyTK'

You have some related additional errors, and a mod conflict between Horny Bachelors and Marnie Immersive.

[smoky ore]

do you have a recommendation for a well balanced modded crops mod?

[restive zodiac]

(All of the NPCs being removed are because the mods adding the NPCs are not loaded, so SMAPI is preventing the save from crashing.)

Rose, have you played through vanilla already?

[smoky ore]

yeah

most of it

[sudden dirge]

I am also seeing SVE

[smoky ore]

i didnt do a perfection save or anything

[upper ember]

I love a lot of the PPJA named crops personally. I'd take a look at them

[restive zodiac]

That's good, at least! I feel like it would be pretty overwhelming to use big content mods without being familiar with the vanilla ones, first.

[smoky ore]

okay thank you pandoras!

[restive zodiac]

Yep, my example was just showing how a particular mod could trace its failure back to PyTK. "This requires a mod which requires a mod which requires PyTK."

[smoky ore]

ive played a lot before, I just need that extra bit of motivation to make a long term save again

[echo charm]

PyTK is required for alot of mods sadly

[restive zodiac]

Yep.

[echo charm]

@smoky ore i always try and limit myself from playing. Like 1 or 2 times a week for a hour or 3/4

keeps me motivated

[smoky ore]

That's a good idea

the core gameplay loop gets kinda exhausting after a while

[echo charm]

True thats why Extended is great

[smoky ore]

yeah?

i dont really understand what it does other than add more people

[echo charm]

well it doesnt change alot of the main storyline but you get new quests and a new area

[sudden dirge]

@restive zodiac is there a workaround to this? I would hate to start a brand new game because I am using the BETA version and SVE.

[echo charm]

New fish aswell

[smoky ore]

ooo okay

[echo charm]

and new cooking recipes

https://i.imgur.com/K6KzFuk.png
Getting there

[smoky ore]

I think I will go with SVE, some extra crops and artison goods, automate, and then QOL mods

[restive zodiac]

If you look on the mod page, it breaks down a lot of the content being added. It's a very comphrensive add-on, so keep in mind that you'll often run into conflicts with mods that may want to edit the same areas, people, etc. And since it's both a huge mod to work on (for the authors) and a huge mod to keep track of (for other mod authors), it can be hard to keep compatibility going even when people make patches.

Remember the log parser and check for errors, and try to avoid adding like 100 mods in one go so it's easier to track it down if something goes wrong 😄

[echo charm]

i added like 20 orso first time

[restive zodiac]

I think besides save editing, the only way to do it would be to downgrade to the previous beta build. Just a second.

[smoky ore]

oh yes I will do that

[echo charm]

Like greenhouse sprinklers

[smoky ore]

I would think crops wouldnt interfere much with something like SVE

[echo charm]

I dont think so tbh

[smoky ore]

after a while vanilla just gets so brainless you know xd

[echo charm]

Yea I agree

Thats why i quit regular one and replaced it with modded 😂

[smoky ore]

so with PyTK being broken will that affect me with SVE? or is that for a different version

I see it in the reqs

[sudden dirge]

If you are referring to smapi beta, I couldn't run the game at all. It required an entire update as per Pathos

[echo charm]

You can play SVE aslong you don't play it on the beta

[smoky ore]

aight okay

i wont do that then

im gonna mess around a bit with it now then, thanks a lot everyone

very friendly and helpful\

[echo charm]

No worries have fun 🙂

[sudden dirge]

If I downgrade smapi to non-beta how will that affect my mods? All of my mods are beta versions

[echo charm]

You have to downgrade ur mods aswell otherwise they won't be loaded

[restive zodiac]

No, I mean the previous beta build, before it broke. There's a walkthrough here https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2353930763 and it looks like someone posted the info for Stardew <#archived-modded-support message>

(I edited because when I read more, Pillow was helping someone get 1.4.5 )

[livid magnet]

Do we have a rough idea when the beta to main branch may happen?

[echo charm]

That is indeed something i'm wondering aswell

[restive zodiac]

"Sometime this fall."

[echo charm]

So it might take a while still

[tender heath]

ive been using the beta and just switched off. all my mods work except customnpcfixes. is there a customnpcfixes mod version that works with the non beta of the game with smapi 3.12.6?

[sudden dirge]

how did you turn the beta version off? I use steam to launch my game. I am looking at the guide provided and it is so complex that I don't even understand how to change back

[echo charm]

you can switch beta off on steam

just right click the game and go to beta

[tender heath]

its super easy. just right click stardew in steam, select properties, go to the mods tab and change it from monogame 64 to none

[echo charm]

^ thats what i meant

[sudden dirge]

I wanted to run the 64 bit version but with PYTK being broken I am guessing I can no longer run it?

[tender heath]

well for mods like sve and ridgeside, which i use, dont work until pytk gets updated

[echo charm]

Atleast not untill PYTK is updated

[chrome cosmos]

if you follow mouse’s links here you can downgrade to the 1.5.5 beta that was prior to the one that got updated last night

that should still work

[upper ember]

Right, since PyTK and TMXL are busted in the beta.. Ah.. does anyone know if there was a time estimate ever said in here?

As to when a working version will be uploaded?

[swift zealot]

It looks like my house upgrade duplicated/glitched my bed and fireplace. I'm on PC with mods installed, not sure what is causing it. Sleeping in the glitched bed soft locked my game in the morning.

[sudden dirge]

I updated my SMAPI though. So now what? Downgrade SMAPI again?

[chrome cosmos]

yes

[chrome cosmos]

try this 🔽

[native dragon]

See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files for instructions on resetting your game files! (This doesn't affect your save files.) You may also want to check this list of XNB > Content Patcher conversions (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher) to see if there are already replacements for any XNB mods you may have been using :)

[chrome cosmos]

!reset

first link!

it should at least let you move the bed and trash it

[swift zealot]

Alright, thanks!

[chrome cosmos]

if it doesnt, sleep in the glitched bed again, close the game and send a log

[echo charm]

'Routine pretty much never answers Nexus comments/reports, but if you are on the beta, PyTK is broken and will be broken until there's an update, official or otherwise. Like I said, the last time I talked to the author, they said they would be unavailable until late September.'

That is what mouse told us atleast

[upper ember]

I just updated.. so many mods.. I don't want to downgrade after doing all that.. But I can't play on my save unless PyTK is fixed

[echo charm]

#archived-modded-support message

[upper ember]

That.. does not help me considering I will be needing to downgrade all my mods that I just updated.

[worthy moth]

Such is the nature of the beta. May not be the last time mods break, but hopefully gives modders the chance to prepare before it is considered to be final.

[echo charm]

Honestly I think I won't be upgrading to beta ever again.

[worthy moth]

I get it though. It's exciting to try out new things. Especially in this case where heave mod loadouts were causing OOM issues, and the update fixes that essentially.

[echo charm]

As soon 1.5.5 is officially out i will switch back

[worthy moth]

I can't imagine how many people would be jumping on the beta if it was a content update too.

[echo charm]

I'm not even sure what changed in 1.5.5

[upper ember]

The update is primarily for modders, adds in fixes and workarounds and whatnot to make it easier for us to mod the game

[swift zealot]

Verifying the game files got rid of the glitched bed and fireplace! Thank you!

[restive zodiac]

(Just to clarify, the guide in question was not about opting out of the beta, it was about reverting to a previous build of the beta.)

[echo charm]

Oh i misunderstood that then i guess

[pale adder]

hello. getting this error when trying to open my game. have removed all mods and tried it, still doesn't launch. reinstalled smapi, still doesn't launch. the only time the game launches is totally vanilla without smapi at all, and i can't figure out what the issue is or what would have changed since the last time i played.
https://smapi.io/log/0b43b30b403f4cd5a9fafd6c28f69524

[worthy moth]

Update your SMAPI to the newer beta

[echo charm]

I got the same error

or had the same error

untill updating the SMAPI from yesterday i believe

or was it today

[sudden dirge]

Thanks for posting this

[pale adder]

didn't realise there was an update that should have been the first thing i checked. thank you!

[echo charm]

Took me a while to figure it out aswell

[wheat crest]

steam updates just suck, it doesn't give us option to play games without updates, even with single player games

[tender heath]

for downgrading, which depot do i install?

[sudden dirge]

How do I turn off automatic steam updates?

[upper ember]

..All I had to do was go back into the beta properties section, select it to none, and then hit enter in the code bar

[fringe shore]

That's for downgrading back to the non-beta. If you still want 64 bit, just yesterday's 64 bit which worked fine, then you have to go to the depot.

[tender heath]

@fringe shore which depot do i download? I cant figure out what on the website to download.

[old girder]

what do you mean by depot tho

[sudden dirge]

That still didn't work. I am still running errors on everything

[wheat crest]

You can't normally, the only thing you can do is forcing steam to launch in offline mode

[spring copper]

I think they mean steamdb.info

[sudden dirge]

I tried to do the build you posted and I ran into the same errors as before

[wheat crest]

have you reverted smapi back?

[sudden dirge]

to what version? What beta version should I use of SMAPI

[wheat crest]

i personally use 3.13.0 beta 2021-09-03, not sure if latest smapi works with older SV or not

[sudden dirge]

I am waiting on dough to rise for a school project so I have roughly 2 hours to do all of this

[wheat crest]

then just skip the game and wait for new pytk updates while working for your project then lmfao

[sudden dirge]

Reverting back to an older version of SMAPI still did not fix the issues. Does anyone else have any other solutions?

[bleak silo]

patience and waiting lol

[chrome cosmos]

did you revert back to the older version of SMAPI and the beta or?

[sudden dirge]

I reverted back to all and nothing is working

[chrome cosmos]

hm, no clue then ;-; only solution is to wait or fully downgrade to 1.5.4 which i doubt you’d wanna do since i assume youre dealing with OOMs

[crude sapphire]

@sudden dirge I managed to get it working for me, at least to loading the 1.5.5 save: one thing you have to do is you have to completely REPLACE the folders by deleting and copying in the old versions, not just drag and drop into the directory

[sudden dirge]

What are OOM's? Sorry I am unsure of computer language. All of my mods are updated to the beta version

[upper ember]

!oom

[native dragon]

OutOfMemoryException errors on Windows mean that your game ran out of memory. The game only has access to a small part of your computer's memory by default. See this page for more info and common fixes: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#OutOfMemoryException_errors_.28Windows_only.29.

[upper ember]

OOMs are awful

[sudden dirge]

yeah running 32 bit gave me OOM's like crazy but I am willing to try anything

[chrome cosmos]

yea...with a large mod list (especially if it contains expansion mods) OOMs are very likely to happen, so unless you're okay with only play 1-2 days at a time, exiting and relaunching, you can downgrade everything to 1.5.4 and SMAPI 3.12.6

[odd crypt]

helou, i've installed a furniture mod, unfortunately not all furniture items are modded so the rest is kinda...invisible now... how can i fix this?

[tender heath]

does anyone know what depot to use for downgrading?

[crude sapphire]

4179490312952651339

dotnet DepotDownloader.dll -app 413150 -depot 413151 -manifest 4179490312952651339 -username <username> -password <password>

[tender heath]

it says could not execute because app was not found

the guide says to download a manifest on steam db, do i need to download something there, if so how do i know which one is the right download/version

[crude sapphire]

the command should be sufficient, did you run it in the directory where DepotDownloader.dll is?

also did you run it in powershell?

[spring copper]

im getting this error. any ideas?

[crude sapphire]

don't put a dash between dotnet and DepotDownloader.dll

[ebon badger]

possibly silly question, sorry in advance: do most mods work if i play on mac or are they relatively pc exclusive

[spring copper]

most work on mac, theres just an extra step I believe

I think you need to download mono? Im on pc I dont know

[ebon badger]

tyvm!!!

[crude sapphire]

are you running your command where DepotDownloader.dll is @spring copper

[spring copper]

yeah

im in the master

[crude sapphire]

oh

[spring copper]

should i be somewhere else?

[neat plaza]

mac yes, ios no

[crude sapphire]

that's not the executable

I'm assuming you downloaded the source code

you need the zip and then unzip it

[spring copper]

oh I mght have oops

[crude sapphire]

alternatively you can build from source code via visual studio but that's probably not what you're looking for

https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader/releases is what you want

[spring copper]

it worked! thanks I just downloaded the wrong thing

from there do i just need to press play on steam? or something else

[crude sapphire]

you need to manually copy over the files into your game installation in Steam/steamapps/common

[tender heath]

i extracted depot downloader, do i need to open something to download it?

[crude sapphire]

if you've extracted it then you should have a DepotDownloader.dll

run the command there

[tender heath]

ohh ok

can i open it with notepad?

[twilit cliff]

anyone able to fix a problem for me?

[tender heath]

or what do i open it wiith

[neat plaza]

dont open the dll
open a command line in the folder

(type cmd in the address bar and press enter)

[tender heath]

how do i do that?

[neat plaza]

https://gyazo.com/278ffd1f0446c03366a8093001ede407

[twilit cliff]

when i try to put items in slots 1 and 5, the game doesn't let me

[tender heath]

ohh got it

thanks. from there do i just run the game and its the older version?

[twilit cliff]

and now it just crashed

I just installed mana bar and magic. i also installed some magical girl weapons

[neat plaza]

yes

[tender heath]

@neat plaza its still not working. i tried using the old 3.13 launcher before yesterday for smapi and got the object is not object, and with the new smapi it says the pytk isnt working, just like the updated beta did.

[twilit cliff]

https://smapi.io/log/ac00ee59bb1744cc90713c96ac49f3f3 anyone able to take a look?

[fringe shore]

That's really weird. Given key '62'? I'd recommend updating the mods you have that have available updates and seeing if that does anything for you. Or possibly even just verifying your game install through Steam on the off chance it's some kind of file corruption.

[twilit cliff]

It's definitely got something to do with this mod I installed. But i can't figure out what's conflicting with it because i dont see any other weapon mod installed

[fringe shore]

What's the mod?

[twilit cliff]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2788?tab=description

[fringe shore]

Yeah, that was last updated in 2018...

There's a reported error that causes something similar to what you're experiencing when you mouse over the golden scythe because it's not compatible with the 1.4 update to the game even.

[twilit cliff]

that's unfortunate

thanks

[fringe shore]

You might try messaging EmpressKimi on Nexus. They're in the Posts on that mod saying they made an updated version

They didn't post it because they didn't hear from the original author, but maybe if you asked them they'd be willing to give you a copy of their personal setup for you to use.

[lapis void]

i'm not sure if that version exists as a JA mod, but the original nightmare's weapons definitely does

[twilit cliff]

eh well i'm trying to get magic mod to work so i'll just uninstall it

[fringe shore]

That version isn't publicly released, and is apparently just their custom edits. They asked for permission to release it, but didn't get a response apparently.

[twilit cliff]

though, i can't figure out magic mod

[fringe shore]

I'd be rather surprised if they rebuilt it using something else instead of just modifying the JA stuff.

Hmm? What's wrong with magic mod?

[twilit cliff]

it's very unintuitive

[fringe shore]

For sure.

There is precisely no chance in hell of you ever figuring it out just by dumb luck. https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/tree/develop/Magic#use

[twilit cliff]

I can't figure out how to obtain the magic which is disappointing

[fringe shore]

Check out the readme.

You have to befriend the wizard.

[twilit cliff]

i havent seen the readme. i went to the wizard, talked to him and was told to use analyze on my watering can. i can't figure out how to do that or find the readme

[fringe shore]

That was the readme which I just linked you.

Go to Pierre's shop, use the Shrine to Yoba on the right to assign spells

Assign the Analyze spell to your hotbar, then hold Q and press the corresponding number (1-4)

[twilit cliff]

I'll try that after dinner, thanks

[fringe shore]

So if you put Analyze in the first magic spot, you would hold Q and press 1.

It's... not the most intuitive. The mod could use some TLC, but it's fairly fleshed out and an awesome proof of concept if nothing else.

I think there's like 20+ spells total too? Some cool stuff.

[twilit cliff]

Thanks!

[tender heath]

ive tried everything and its still not working sadly

[spring copper]

whats not working? I was able to get mine working

[tender heath]

i downgraded my game using the code and it fully loaded, but it didnt change anything

the mod i downgraded for that did work before the update, but no longer does still does not work

[spring copper]

did you download the old smapi?

[tender heath]

yea i went back to the old smapi and its just giving me the object is not object

[spring copper]

huh

i dont know mine just worked

I also just had it start from a different folder on my desktop? it might still be starting from the wrong spot

[tender heath]

ohh like with the steam launch from location thing

u used this code, right? dotnet DepotDownloader.dll -app 413150 -depot 413151 -manifest 4179490312952651339 -username <username> -password <password>

[spring copper]

yeah I did

sorry I didnt see that

what I did was i set up a "stardew backtrack" folder on my desktop and extracted the game and used SMAPI on that file directory, then put all my mods and my save in

then you can start from there, or change the launch location on steam

[tender heath]

would it make a difference whether its set to the mods folder or just an ordinary?

[spring copper]

i used this walkthrough, just have to change the appid thing to the stardew one (413150)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44HBxzC_RTg

[tender heath]

also wdym u extracted the game

ahh ill watch it real quick and see if i can figure it out

[quick crow]

@naive drum Hey, sorry to bother you again! For the DGA version of PPJA can I just replace only one of the PPJA JA mods or do I have to replace every single one of them ?

[naive drum]

All of them generally

[quick crow]

Alrighty! Thank you ! 🙂

[spring copper]

if you have any other questions, feel free to @ me, I dont know much about this, but I did figure it out once so I might be able to help

[tender heath]

@spring copper ok so i had downloaded and run the command. do i need to do something past that?

[spring copper]

you need to do the appid thing

he doesnt really explain it, just make a text doc then name it steam_appid and write 413150 in it

[tender heath]

do i put it somewhere?

[spring copper]

you put it into the folder you put the game in

i just right clicked when i was in that folder and selected new - new text doc

[tender heath]

@spring copper so i put it into the stardew valley folder?

[spring copper]

yeah

[tender heath]

@spring copper ok, i put the steam_appid in and replaced what i had in there

the game still does not work though, it still seems to be in its new version

[spring copper]

now just try running it?

I dont know sorry

[tender heath]

when i downloaded the depot and ran the command and let it go to 100%, did it download anything that i need to use?

because after the 100% downloaded i didnt do anything with that, all i did was the steam_appid thing

[spring copper]

you need the depot stuff

[tender heath]

what do i do with it/where did it download the stuff to?

[spring copper]

from this

[tender heath]

is it the bin folder with all the numbers?

[spring copper]

then you copy it all and put it in your stardew folder

yeah

[tender heath]

do i copy the bin sha aswell?

[spring copper]

yeah I did

[tender heath]

i did it, and its still not working. just making sure, i put it just into the stardew folder, not the mod folder or anything else?

[spring copper]

yeah just the stardew

[tender heath]

yeah still no luck

[spring copper]

huh

try it in the different folder? also are you starting from the exe or from steam

[tender heath]

steam

[spring copper]

try it from the file

[tender heath]

from the file it just launches the normal game without smapi it seems

[spring copper]

did you install smapi in that folder?

you need to do it again if you didnt

[tender heath]

do i need to drag the smapi folder into the stardew one?

[spring copper]

if you did, then you start from "stardew modding api

id just redownload

[tender heath]

theres a smapi internal folder there

[spring copper]

make sure you download the older version of the beta

[tender heath]

the one from before the update, right?

i have that one downloaded rn

[spring copper]

yeah this one

ok then run it in the folder and install

[tender heath]

ok, i reinstalled and its still saying the object is not object thing it said when the game updated

i think its a problem with the downgrading, not smapi

because its behaving the same as when the beta updated yesterday

[spring copper]

huh I dont know about that

sorry

[tender heath]

thats alright. thanks for trying to help anyway

[spring copper]

yeah

I hope you can figure it out! maybe someone can figure it out if they know more

[dusky canyon]

do you want to do the beta or the unofficial 64-bit patch?

because the SMAPI that you posted is for the beta, that you can just download via an option on steam

This is where the unofficial 64-bit patch usually downloads to

[tender heath]

i am on the 64 bit version

[dusky canyon]

Did you opt into the beta? (1.5.5, official 64-bit VERSION)

Or did you follow this https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_64-bit_on_Windows (unofficial 64-bit patch)

oh wait, that is the wrong guide.

woops.

(nevermind. It's the obsolete instructions at the bottom that I was pointing to!)

[tender heath]

im not sure. I just changed the version on steam properties of the game from none to the monogame64bit version

[dusky canyon]

That is the beta! 1.5.5 :>

It should download automatically. You shouldn't have to use depotdownloader for it

or click "Download" in "Downloads" on steam

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley Is the path to 1.5.5 if you'd opt into the beta. Which is also the normal game directory

[unreal sleet]

Hi, have something of a question. Has the way to use multiple dialogue mods changed at all, or is it still completely dependent on order and patches?

[tender heath]

i didnt need depot downloader to get the beta, but to downpatch it

[glacial briar]

Hey guys, can I ask all the lurkers to help answer a question? What makes you choose to download an NPC?

We're having a bit of a debate, like is it just the portrait, if the concept sounds good, do you get all NPCs, does it depend on where they live...?

Related, why did you choose (or not choose) to get SVE, RSV, ES, or any other expansion?

[glacial briar]

Order + you can add a dependency if you want to make sure one mods loads before another.

[unreal sleet]

How would that work with other people's mods? Editing the Json documents?

[glacial briar]

Yeah, edit the manifest.json

Here's an example.

[bleak silo]

personally I look at the portrait first and then consider what the npc would add to the gameplay. i wanted to add SVE and RSV primarily because of the addition to the storyline and new places to discover, but i would have gotten it if it was just the NPCs because the additional dialogue is exciting to me

[glacial briar]

Thanks! What are you lookin for in a portrait? Close to vanilla style? Attractive?

[grave oak]

not a lurker, but I usually only go for ones that have a "dcburger" style portrait version or an anime version that fits, i don't particularly like vanilla much, and i like having all portraits matching up otherwise it'll trigger my ocd and make me uninstall, and if i could i would chose all of the expansion mods cuz from my view they're all unique in their own aspect but i still don't know what causes hangs with my game so i'm kinda stuck in limbo rn, tho i never got far into any of those mods yet, to me NPCs are just a side thing compared to what those mods have to offer, new areas, items quest and whatnot

[glacial briar]

Ah, so if an expansion was able to advertise that it did not adversely affect lag (or not much), that would be a big selling point?

And it's fine that you're not a lurker; I was just hoping to encourage some of the silent ones. 🙂

[grave oak]

Honestly, yeah, but i feel like that'd be impossible cuz the lag from the game comes mostly from bad memory management and the endless amount of frameworks needed for most content mods(tho i don't know shit about how the game actually works, i just think Stardew is weird to consume 2.4gb to keep running when Fallout new vegas with 110+ mods take like 400mb and only got to 2gb after 2h of a session)

[glacial briar]

I should throw out my own reasoning: Before my current run where I threw caution to the win, I would only get NPCs if they were both well-written (needed screenshots of dialog + looking at mod desc) and the portrait fit in with vnailla plausibly okay.

[bleak silo]

yes i tend to lean closer to vanilla style but i'm open to all styles tbh. i just tend to download the more vanilla styles more. attractive, marry-able, unique, inclusive are all things I consider 🙂

[glacial briar]

Lol, SVE is such a memory hog because of all the changes it makes to vanilla everything. Most other expansions aren't like that.

👋 Again, lurkers, your comments are very much desired!

[outer turret]

so for me... I have used SVE and I'm writing ES, ofc. So I'm biast towards this but I began very early in SVE, before they had custom NPCs (and had xnb replacements for maps). I got it because it promised MORE, and oh boy, did it have more! I triggered most of the events, met the first of the custom NPCs as they were added (Andy, Susan, Victor, Olivia) and was really enjoying it (although some of the mature events didn't sit well with me, specifically Shane's at the railroad and Krobus's (now removed). Some of the others, like Penny's and Haley's also felt a bit gratuitously dark and didn't add to the storyline. Then 1.4 happened and my game broke (due to my BFAV rabbits rather than SVE) and instead of waiting for BFAV to update, I went back to an older backup version. By the time I got back to feeling comfortable adding mods, SVE had had several updates and I felt overwhelmed by the whole thing.

[glacial briar]

That's a good point, I personally prefer smaller mods with just one or two NPCs.

I kind of had to be tricked into getting another expansion. XD

[grave oak]

oh, i can quote myself here