yeah ive decided to do that! thank you ❤️
#archived-modded-support
dire fractal
dusky canyon
yeah ive decided to do that! thank you ❤️
signal latch
https://smapi.io/log/a55c0c9853334027b0d74a310df89ee9 Anyone see anything wrong in this log in regards to dialogue mods?
night drift
That fixed it! Thanks a ton!
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/722
Here you go! I'm not sure if this still works but i used to use this mod myself when i felt more nb, hope you enjoy!
unreal stratus
https://smapi.io/log/a55c0c9853334027b0d74a310df89ee9 Anyone see anything wrong ...
Last loaded dialogue mod takes preference
signal latch
@unreal stratus Which one is that and how do I fix it?
signal latch
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/722
Here you go! I'm not sure if ...
Thank you!
unreal stratus
<@!657276771405660160> Which one is that and how do I fix it?
Hard to tell.
It's based on alphabet first
Then based on manifest dependencies
signal latch
I probably have some mods conflicting then. I'll take a look at my dialogue mods.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2544 @unreal stratus I think this is the mod that pops up first in the list. So this one is taking preference over the other ones then?
vale frost
are there any mods that allow you to change your name and sex in your inventory whenever?
or at your house or something
signal latch
Dang Emily that's a good question. I'd also like to know. Gender should be able to be changed at the drop of a hat in Stardew imo.
vale frost
Thanks !! finding it a little challenging having run to the wizards house / suffer in early game without any wizards room access
signal latch
Tfw your gender is fluid. I understand your struggle. 😩
vale frost
Which is something I appreciate about this community, the people tend to get it :>
lost badger
Can someone help me with this? I'm just getting "Saving.." at the end of the day. This has happened twice now.
signal latch
Oh no Shay that looks terrible. Someone help poor Shay xd.
Yeah Emily this community is cool.
naive drum
!oom
native dragonBOT
OutOfMemoryException errors on Windows mean that your game ran out of memory. The game only has access to a small part of your computer's memory by default. See this page for more info and common fixes: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#OutOfMemoryException_errors_.28Windows_only.29.
lost badger
There's an option to use a 64-bit patch, but it says Stardew is now 64-bit anyways.
Hm.
It's using 1.3MB of memory
gray frigate
I had to remove my wonderful Piano Valley, since it was OOM too often. I haven't had it since. 350+ mods, though.
lost badger
I only have around 100 and I don't know which could be making issues since this is an uncommon occurrence.
dusky canyon
There's a beta for 64-bit SDV which is only for modders atm to fix their mods for when it releases. You can still do the unofficial 64-bit patch or wait
gray frigate
Mine is super choppy on the 64 patch, so I'm just kinda hanging out for a while.
dusky canyon
I've seen other people have that. I have no idea why. Mine is fine :((
I did throw out Content Patcher Animations, which helped
night drift
I'm late but i sympathize with you both djsjsj @signal latch @vale frost
Reject gender constructs, return to farming 😌
old spire
ah. i have it in my mod folder so ill try it out
dusky canyon
old spire
nice thanks
vale frost
I'm late but i sympathize with you both djsjsj <@281814124747423744> <@23693757...
Never too late to reject gender constructs !
dire fractal
are there any mods that allow you to change your name and sex in your inventory ...
Iirc Get Glam gives you the option to change your gender. The version on Nexus is kinda outdated but it worked for me.
vale frost
Iirc Get Glam gives you the option to change your gender. The version on Nexus i...
Thanks 😊
tired quartz
I only have around 100 and I don't know which could be making issues since this ...
When I had that issue I had DSVO installed and I had to say goodbye to it. The laptop I had at that time was pure crap, DSVO was too much for it :/ The laptop I have now is not a gaming laptop because I couldn't afford it, but it can run stardew with the ton of mods I have and that's enough for me
Nowadays Smapi crashing for me is like having annoying customers at work, I'm mentally prepared for it, I'll curse and then try to find the issue with the log. If the issue is too big for my knowledge, then I ask for help
gray frigate
Mine is being restricted to 32bit. My computer is set up for gaming, so it's just how the game is until the update.
signal latch
I'm late but i sympathize with you both djsjsj <@281814124747423744> <@23693757...
Only farming. No gender.
Hey all I have a question regarding dialogue mods. What order do they load in? Is it based on their order in your mods folder? Like alphabetical wise?
lost badger
Since I have modpacks that give me different crops, would it make sense that selling a bunch of crops at once could give me the out of memory error?
signal latch
@unreal stratus Sorry for the ping but we got questions here and you're always super helpful.
main ingot
its based on order
unreal stratus
Order and chaos
main ingot
so last one loaded takes priority
if u want it to take priority, put a z_ at the beginning so it loads last
this is a documented thing
signal latch
Ah, okay. Thank you Lani. Is there a way to tell if any of them conflict?
main ingot
if they overwrite the uhhhhh same line, then the last one loaded will show its lines
but dialogue mods dont really "conflict" in the same way some cp mods do, theyll just overwrite each other
unreal stratus
Only if they try to load the same asset, I think? But SMAPI would tell you.
unreal stratus
No, I just bumped my knee into the door cause I wasn't looking
main ingot
oba...
unreal stratus
main ingot
signal latch
Oh yeah help Shay too pls lol
unreal stratus
Since I have modpacks that give me different crops, would it make sense that sel...
Not necessarily
lost badger
It seems in the error it specifically mentions the shipping bin, and I'm unsure if that actually means something.
lost badger
Can someone help me with this? I'm just getting "Saving.." at the end of the day...
.
Oh yeah, let me send you that.
I might be wrong, I really don't know what I'm looking at. I already took out the mods that are outdated, and took out ones I don't use/need. My memory for SDV is 1.3MB, and Discord takes up even less than that. Nothing else I have open is 32bit.
main ingot
it bonked during saving but i dont think it would be crops that throw that error
signal latch
Are long loading times when all the mods are loading before the game opens and within the game itself typical for SMAPI users?
main ingot
i always blame sve because it's such a memory hog on 32 bit so <3
main ingot
Are long loading times when all the mods are loading before the game opens and w...
if you have sve ye <3
or a potato pc
signal latch
I have SVE and non potato pc
main ingot
sve is HEAVY for no reason, and makes game load times increase by some minutes
i dont have a potato pc either but sve makes my game take around 2 minutes to load running with my graphics card 
not even high end pcs are safe from sve
it usually takes under 30 seconds at the max
w/o sve
not even that, maybe 15?
signal latch
SVE why do you do this
lost badger
it bonked during saving but i dont think it would be crops that throw that error
I might be confirmation bias but it seems to be almost everytime I ship a bunch of stuff all at once. I'm playing this save pretty slow so it doesn't happen too often, but it's always coincidentally after I do a lot.
muted pagoda
'shipping a bunch of stuff sort of indicates you did alot that day'
signal latch
My life with SVE. I don't normally have a video running at the same time btw XD.
lost badger
'shipping a bunch of stuff sort of indicates you did alot that day'
I mean, not often. I hoard a lot of stuff rather than sell it.
main ingot
'shipping a bunch of stuff sort of indicates you did alot that day'
^ LOL
lost badger
Kind of meant "do a lot" as in "sell a lot" but w.e
muted pagoda
memory issue is generally directly linked to how long you played that session, sdv leaks memory slowly as long as time is running
main ingot
^
dusky canyon
yessss our 16gb queen
lost badger
I guess after I find myself playing for about an hour I'll just re-start the game. I tried doing the patch but I legitimately had no clue what the hell I was looking at, and I was scared of messing something up.
main ingot
about an hour
god i wish i had that self control
i either dont play at all or play for 6 hours straight
muted pagoda
most people with real problems with oom tend to crash out inside 3-4 days.
lost badger
Well, sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't. I've had this save for like 15 hours now and it's only happened twice. I don't play in small bursts or anything like that. I play all day or an hour or two after work.
I've had the game open for 20 minutes and it's already on 2.5MB 🤨
dusky canyon
how much GB ram do you have?
lost badger
16GB
muted pagoda
gb you mean I assume and yeah that's pretty normal, usually between 2.5-3 depending on how modded your client is
main ingot
once again, blame sve
dusky canyon
muted pagoda
heh in my 64 bit install titlescreen memory is usually at 5.1, its silly.
dusky canyon
6 for me 
lost badger
So, I'm SOL unless I do the patch?
dusky canyon
870 mods oof
kinda. it's strange that it's only using RAM in mbs though and giving an oom at that
but i'd just do it
muted pagoda
nod, I cut back a bit because I hit some weird limitation where adding zuzu made save load time go from 10-15 mins to over an hour :p
dusky canyon
zuzu has lots of high quality music, so that also is a cause
unreal stratus
Didn't Papa Pepo make a video
dusky canyon
yes
lost badger
Man damn 
the video that's linked in the Wiki is literally like a 2010 Club Penguin tutorial and it's unbearable to follow.
Do y'all have a better one for me to look at?
muted pagoda
I really, really, wish custommusic had an option for 'I dont want a beeping music track, dont load any of this'
lost badger
The notepad typing though man
unreal stratus
I really, really, wish custommusic had an option for 'I dont want a beeping musi...
You can replace the file with a blank file to be fair
dusky canyon
I just followed the wiki guide, not the video
unreal stratus
Uhh, basically 0 kb wav ye
lost badger
Ah, I thought you had to follow the video
shy orbit
it would be safer to use a very short wav file, so that the game can play the music when it wants
instead of crashing because it can't
muted pagoda
yeah, what I figured, I've done that sort of sound adjusting in other games and most games do not like having just a null file
muted pagoda
I really need to look into making one of those I guess, I literally dont care about any of the music, I watch youtube on my 3rd monitor
dusky canyon
woah pepo hasn't commented in a month here
muted pagoda
oh hey, an easy one from civfanatics forums on a search for 'empty wav file'
only thing I can see probably causing a problem.. you probably dont want it to 'loop' this
get the feeling it wanting to play a wav file 60 times/second is probably not ideal
ah, here's a 5 minute silent wav file in that's 4.6mb
unique swan
can u guys recommend me mods pls
lost badger
Anything on NexusMods with "most downloads" is probably what you're best to start with
unique swan
um
where can i find pathoschild's mod recommended list
i remember there being a command
muted pagoda
!modrecs
native dragonBOT
Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
tired quartz
can u guys recommend me mods pls
Stardew valley expanded, Ridgeside Village, east scarpe and board house are good starters for mods that add new places, new characters and new storylines.
sand vault
i have entered my house and i'm outside xd
ember carbon
how do i use bfav
shy orbit
ah, here's a 5 minute silent wav file in that's 4.6mb
hm, i wonder if the audio stream is playable by stardew valley. pepoluan i think figured out the format that gives the minimum file size that the game can use and i don't think it was that low
sand vault
i dont know how to get in my house :c
ember carbon
i have entered my house and i'm outside xd
the shape of that house is not normal
ember carbon
i dont know how to get in my house :c
try walk to the entrance...?
muted pagoda
the file I mentioned thre is only 8800 hz or something, is why its only 5mb
sand vault
now i'm outside the house
sand vault
i think so
dusky canyon
Press F11
muted pagoda
and yeah you'd need to noclip thru the wall, its like f9 or something
dusky canyon
^
ember carbon
how do i use bfav
.
dusky canyon
how do i use bfav
I have no idea. I don't think modders put an explanation on their mod page tho
lost badger
I'm trying to follow the video for downloading 64 version of SDV and it's either not working or I'm just completely confused.
dusky canyon
at which part are you?
runic cobalt
I'm trying to follow the video for downloading 64 version of SDV and it's either...
Glad im mobile, so i cant say "why im here? Just to suffer?"
lost badger
I'm just going to try to follow the written tutorial. I ran the command in Steam's console and waited like 5 minutes and nothing happened.
ember carbon
https://tenor.com/view/dog-sad-why-why-are-we-still-here-just-to-suffer-gif-1748...
literally my life in a gif
ember carbon
im not
idk what that means really like u go from 32 bit to 64 bit ?
thats it better quality?
dusky canyon
I'm just going to try to follow the written tutorial. I ran the command in Steam...
it's going to take a while. don't do anything while it's in that window. it can take up to 15 min
runic cobalt
"everyone migrating". If you're not then of course it doesn't represent you 
dusky canyon
if you keep on adding mods or play longer you'll eventually get out of memory errors
ember carbon
yeah im just saying that im not
runic cobalt
thats it better quality?
I need to summon god to explain for you
muted pagoda
depot downloading is a low priority process for steam, you dont get particularly fast download speeds.
dusky canyon
so you're either going to have to remove mods or convert to the unofficial 64-bit patch if the official one isn't out yet
lost badger
it's going to take a while. don't do anything while it's in that window. it can ...
Nothing on steam or nothing on my computer?
dusky canyon
nothing on steam
runic cobalt
so you're either going to have to remove mods or convert to the unofficial 64-bi...
Kama being more smarter than my teacher
lost badger
Gotcha
ember carbon
if you keep on adding mods or play longer you'll eventually get out of memory er...
so i will have to go to 64 bit no matter what?
runic cobalt
Yes
dusky canyon
Kama being more smarter than my teacher
lost badger
Let's hope I don't mess something up because I will throw a fit. 😐
runic cobalt
Only if you want to play 1000 mods I think
lost badger
I only play with 115 so how this is happening to me I really don't know, I've modded before with a similar amount of mods if not the exact same ones and never had this issue until just now.
dusky canyon
there is 1.5.5 coming, which is sdv 64-bit. you can either wait or use the beta (which will result in lots of mods breaking)
or convert to the unofficial 64-bit patch in the mean time
ember carbon
Only if you want to play 1000 mods I think
i think if i do go on a REAL mod frenzy the max that i would download 150 or so
but rn im chlling at about 55
dusky canyon
I've got 860~ mods rn
lost badger
Patch is reliable, right?
runic cobalt
i think if i do go on a REAL mod frenzy the max that i would download 150 or so
My friend uses more than 1000 mods...
lost badger
Do you pinkie promise? 🤨
runic cobalt
Idk How its possible but
ember carbon
I've got 860~ mods rn
i personally dont see a need for it
dusky canyon
pinkie promise yes
lost badger
ok poggers
ember carbon
and how
runic cobalt
I use 135 mods i think hmmm
shy orbit
I only play with 115 so how this is happening to me I really don't know, I've mo...
the oom problems seemed to start after the release of 1.5, or at least they got more prominent around then. could be that the base game memory usage increased, or just that mods got bigger
ember carbon
then i deleted stardew and smapi
dusky canyon
well, I wanted to mod it. so I took a lot from Pathos' recommendations. then I went to the user wiki recommendations and took loads from there. then I took a further look into nexus/moddrop and then took more from naver
muted pagoda
before 1.5 it was largely 'just' sve
dusky canyon
ember carbon
and not long ago i redownloaded alot again
muted pagoda
now it's sve, ridgeside, lunna, and zuzu
dusky canyon
https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Category:Recommendations Recommendation lists from users
ember carbon
man i kept hearing a fly getting slowly closer to my ear and slapped my ear
lost badger
the oom problems seemed to start after the release of 1.5, or at least they got ...
Solid point, I didn't use SDVE after 1.5 til just now lol, I'm sure that's what it is
runic cobalt
I never used SVE....
ember carbon
then stuck my finger in it and slapped it again
runic cobalt
Neither RSV, Lunna or
dusky canyon
I removed SVE and am now using seven deadly sins instead xp
runic cobalt
Any expansion mod
ember carbon
whats lunna
lost badger
It's okay, I don't know much about it but I was tired of seeing the same faces everyday and doing the same stuff. I always restarted my saves after like 100 hours in.
ember carbon
or zuzu
runic cobalt
Lunna Astray? Is an expansion mod created by the same RSV creator
dusky canyon
ember carbon
are them two new?
dusky canyon
oh it's called East Scarp now, not East Scarpe
ember carbon
ph yeah
runic cobalt
AHH the Guy in your ppc
dusky canyon
jujutsu kaisen 
runic cobalt
Yes! Love this anime
ember carbon
what are antisocial npcs, gimme an example
naive drum
I only play with 115 so how this is happening to me I really don't know, I've mo...
as you play more and more days in a row without closing and reopening the game, memory usage increases
ember carbon
U BETTER OR IMA USED SOME CURSED ENERGY TO BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF U
muted pagoda
'antisocial npcs' as per the mod, it's more of hiding them from you until x event happens
runic cobalt
Antisocial npcs: i hate events, i hate humans, i hate socialize
ember carbon
lol im kidding
ember carbon
'antisocial npcs' as per the mod, it's more of hiding them from you until x even...
example?
dusky canyon
? it's being used by other mods
ember carbon
ok
dusky canyon
?
unique swan
double of everyone
runic cobalt
Do you use Ui Info Suite and
muted pagoda
you have uiinfosuite on probably
unique swan
yes i use both
runic cobalt
Map npcs
muted pagoda
turn off their map heads
runic cobalt
Then disable the function from Ui Info
runic cobalt
In the Hammer icon in inventory
naive drum
it especially spikes upon saving; also it can only use memory in the 32-bit address range, which is about 4 gb total max, and other programs like discord will also use memory in that range so stardew in practice has access to about 3.5 gigabytes at absolute max and may have access to much less depending on what else is running
dire fractal
runic cobalt
Hello
dusky canyon
in case you're using nexus ui info suite, the one on github is a newer version and better I believe https://github.com/Annosz/UIInfoSuite2/releases
dusky canyon
:((
runic cobalt
I use a somewhat old version of UI Info. I think is 1.8.4 idk
Yep, 1.8.4. Even versions before the 1.5 release don't work on mobile. 1.8.4 is the latest version that works on mobile.
I even downloaded the versions after that (until December) and they didn't work at all
tired quartz
Antisocial npcs: i hate events, i hate humans, i hate socialize
and those are Sebastian and Shane in a nutshell
runic cobalt
Literally
ember carbon
oh yeah for ui info suite oi click on the hammer and it doesnt go to the tab
for changing its options
its like it doesnt exist at all basically
i can see it but clicking it does nothing at all
ember carbon
no
lost badger
Is any of this giga-scuffed or am I okay?
ember carbon
also
ember carbon
do any of u just click on the file thing in chrome which takes u iside the zip and just move the mod to mods folder rather than extracting and moving after?
dusky canyon
oh I didnt even know that was an option
lost badger
Yeah give me a second. When the game actually loads up, it's just white with "not responding"
dusky canyon
hah sure
ember carbon
Yeah give me a second. When the game actually loads up, it's just white with "no...
that happends to me sometimes but i just klet sdv wait
lost badger
Well, you were right, right after you said that it loaded lol
muted pagoda
the unoffical 64 bit client also opens slightly oddly
lost badger
Okay, thanks. Anything else I should know?
muted pagoda
as to the error, faster path speed crashed and won't work, it looks like it's specifically targeting the 32 bit exe, for some reason
lost badger
I'll live without it. I'm using the Giga Farm so it would be nice but it's okay LOL
dusky canyon
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/9344?tab=bugs someone else has that error from faster path speed here
ember carbon
well the smapi errors is just because well tractor mod is empyt so delete and reinstall and mtn update as well
WHY DO U HAVE EVERY LINK LOL
dusky canyon
I google
ember carbon
so fast
lost badger
It's empty because it's just a recolor, I installed like it said and I'll fix it if I really need to.
ember carbon
what is mtn again i forgot
dusky canyon
more than neccessary
ember carbon
It's empty because it's just a recolor, I installed like it said and I'll fix it...
oh ok
dusky canyon
necessary*
ember carbon
oh yeah
thats the thing community farm need right?
i love how thats the only thing i remember
dusky canyon
I don't use it, so idk
ember carbon
GIGA FARM IS GIGANTIC OMG
lost badger
Yikes, seems like I'm already having issues with it being choppy.
ember carbon
idk giga farm was 65k tiles
muted pagoda
thats pretty normal in the first 5-10 minutes
ember carbon
thats gpnna be alot more of a challenge than u think tbh
lost badger
thats pretty normal in the first 5-10 minutes
Alright..
dusky canyon
shay, if you want, could you try removing content patcher animations and see if it continues?
ember carbon
people struggl with IF2R alone lol
muted pagoda
it usually levels out mostly, though you will get a stutter now and again
lost badger
I'll let it run and see what happens. By CP animations you mean the fish animation, right?
Oh wait, the actual mod is called that.
dusky canyon
just fyi if you want to disable a mod but not remove it, just add a dot . in front of the name
so [CP] Content Patcher Animations will become .[CP] Content Patcher Animations for example
lost badger
ember carbon
anyone know the stardew expansion mod
ik it got removed from nexus and is probs not updating aymore
but does anyone know whats its like
glacial holly
im trying to play in modded multiplayer but the "show invite code" button isnt there, what should i do
update: i was just being dumb and only pressing load instead of going to co-op and pressing host
main ingot
google your problem, there's a solution but i dont recall it offhand
royal arrow
!mphelp
native dragonBOT
For connection issues in multiplayer see the pinned post in #vanilla-tech-support (<#vanilla-tech-support message>) and also the wiki troubleshooting page (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Can.27t_connect_to_another_player_in_multiplayer).
royal arrow
These may help ⬆️
signal latch
Huh, looks like something's conflicting here. Anyone know what mods might be overlapping?
https://smapi.io/log/edce8df607654a9484b03adc36f9fa77 Here's the log if it helps
I don't see any errors, looking at it myself.
Could it be something to do with json assets? That added some stuff into my game.
unreal raptor
I don’t know either but WHAT is your wallpaper in the background? I have a guess but I’m not 100% sure, lol
signal latch
Lmao I'll post it for you
unreal raptor
WAIT
signal latch
unreal raptor
I KNEW IT
signal latch
Yes xd
unreal raptor
I wasn’t sure but then I saw your profile picture and it’s so obvious, lol
I love the colors and sparkles!
signal latch
Yeah it's a nice background. Had it for a while now.
unreal raptor
Cool
lost badger
I moved all my stuff over the 64 version, and now my grass looks like this..? I have some mods that do change the grass but it doesn't make it so flat and bland like this.
signal latch
@unreal stratus Heya sorry to ping you again my dude but Shay and I sitll got questions. And other peeps I think.
lost badger
I have Stardew Foliage Redone (foliage only) and it looked much better than this. I don't know what mod is causing the change.
unreal stratus
!patchsummary
native dragonBOT
Can you do these steps to provide more info?
- Load your save and view the content that should be patched.
- Type
patch summarydirectly into the SMAPI window and press enter. - Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page).
- Post the log link here.
signal latch
For both of us or just Shay?
lost badger
Lord have mercy that just went at the speed of light
unreal stratus
Shay
lost badger
Where do I find the log?
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
unreal stratus
https://smapi.io/log/edce8df607654a9484b03adc36f9fa77 Here's the log if it helps
This log is too big for my phone lol
signal latch
My bad that log was from when the game was playing for a while. Let me get one from just booting it up and I'll send that.
unreal stratus
Yuss
lost badger
Any ideas what could be causing the grass?
outer turret
anyone know the stardew expansion mod
Do you mean Tego's original expansion one? Or Stardew Valley Expanded, which is very much alive and popular? This is a Tego's redux: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8968 Or part of it, anyway. It has no NPCs though.
signal latch
Yuss
https://smapi.io/log/3e08d016623b4fe8a81e918158c2b7d8 Here, a much shorter log from booting up the game fully.
unreal stratus
https://smapi.io/log/72af3bbe4b4c4405b5ab92855749909a
Check which mods edit spring_outdoorsTilesheet and or summer_outdoorsTilesheet
Remove them all and add them back one by one slowly to see which one does it
lost badger
How would I go about doing that? Using control f to find those words?
unreal stratus
Specifically look for mods with other visual edits as well
unreal stratus
How would I go about doing that? Using control f to find those words?
Yupyup
unreal stratus
Huh, looks like something's conflicting here. Anyone know what mods might be ove...
Are your ui zoom level and game zoom level the same?
Check in settings
Also, one of your mods edits the shop UI
Might be the culprits especially if it hasn't been updated in a while
lost badger
I looked at the screenshots for all the mods that change the grass and none of them to seem to be busted up like this
mental meadow
I am playing with 3 friends, all using the same mods. Items appear different to all of us at any given times. When we plant rabbit for example, I see roses and weird icons, someone else sees rabbits, and someone else sees something different. This is happening with a variety of items. We have all tried hosting and remodding our folders. Anyone have any ideas to help us correct this?
unreal stratus
I looked at the screenshots for all the mods that change the grass and none of t...
That's why you remove them, as the change might've been caused by a conflict or a bug SMAPI can't show us
lost badger
Yeah, doing that now
unreal stratus
I am playing with 3 friends, all using the same mods. Items appear different to ...
Did you add any new JA mods during an existing save?
Or remove
mental meadow
Did you add any new JA mods during an existing save?
Yes we did, but we all completely wiped and deleted our saves and started a fresh map and it is still occurring on the new one as well.
unreal stratus
Yes we did, but we all completely wiped and deleted our saves and started a fres...
!log Got a smapi log?
native dragonBOT
@mental meadow Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
mental meadow
!log Got a smapi log?
I don't have any from our old games as we deleted them. Would one from this new save be okay?
unreal stratus
If the issue is happening there as well, sure!
mental meadow
If the issue is happening there as well, sure!
Okay, I will do that now. Thank you for responding. We have been going nuts about this for a week haha
unreal stratus
mental meadow
<:SDVpufferthumbsup:604817082064044062> <:SDVjunimolove:585776663481024523>
Hopefully I did this right, first time. 🙂 https://smapi.io/log/285cf08b7a114f06aeaa6b8440ae1506
unreal stratus
Hopefully I did this right, first time. 🙂 https://smapi.io/log/285cf08b7a114f06...
Do all 3 of you have quest framework?
mental meadow
Do all 3 of you have quest framework?
Yes we do
unreal stratus
QF says one of you either doesn't have the mod or they're having connection issues
Nothing else that's weird in the log
mental meadow
QF says one of you either doesn't have the mod or they're having connection issu...
Any suggesstions on how to determine which one of us is causing the issue?
unreal stratus
Does the same thing happen with two of you?
mental meadow
Does the same thing happen with two of you?
So before we wiped to a new save, 2 of them were synced up seeing the same things and I was the odd man out. Then on another earlier save me and one of them were synced up seeing the same things and another was the odd one. Now we all see different things on the new save completely.
mental meadow
Right? This is us for the past week going crazy because giving gifts and cooking is a nightmare when no one sees the same things. lol
unreal stratus
!halp
native dragonBOT
@tired brook ^
tired brook
Hmm?
naive drum
mp json nonsense
tired brook
It might be useful for Quest Framework to show more specific errors. The info SMAPI provides as part of its peer connected event (which I assume Quest Framework is using there) should make it easy to distinguish between SMAPI not installed, QF not installed, and QF installed with a different version.
(Or which dependencies are missing, based on the "or dependencies" part of the error.)
mental meadow
Is there a way for me to see a more specific error with Quest Framework?
unreal stratus
The specific issue seems JA related, no? 
unreal stratus
Is there a way for me to see a more specific error with Quest Framework?
That's on the dev side of things
tired brook
Oh, I didn't read back far enough; I was just looking at the QF errors.
The way Json Assets works currently makes it pretty susceptible to shuffled item IDs. This is the first report I've seen of it happening between players in multiplayer, but it's not really surprising. I have ideas on how to rework it to be more consistent in future versions once the dust settles on Stardew Valley 1.5.5 though.
mental meadow
The way Json Assets works currently makes it pretty susceptible to shuffled item...
So is this something that we will just want to ride out until 1.5.5?
tired brook
You can make sure you all have the exact same mods and configurations; if it still happens despite that, then yeah it'd probably be something addressed by future improvements to the ID assignment.
errant hollow
Hey there! I am one of the friends that is having the issue with @mental meadow Would you want to see my log as well to see if it is possible we are missing something she is?
tired brook
Sure!
errant hollow
sinful sundial
Allo. I am yet, the other friend, who is having this issue with @gloomy swift. Here is My log as well.
dire fractal
JA shuffle has evolved?
tired brook
Looks like you have different Json Assets content packs installed, which will definitely cause issues in multiplayer.
sinful sundial
How do we resolve this @tired brook ? We compared mods via a screen share.
errant hollow
Is there away for us to see which ones are different?
tired brook
Vex's log has Ancient Crops installed, which I don't see in the other logs.
errant hollow
I'm sorry for being so newbie, Thank you so much for the help.
naive drum
So everyone else needs to install Ancient Crops
sinful sundial
We removed that today. I guess she didn't.
She is going to remove it now.
Is it best practice not to add or remove mods from a save file? Like would you always have to start a new game, in that case?
tired brook
There's an Ancient Crops content pack for Mail Framework Mod and Multi Yield Crops too, though not sure if that'd have any effect.
In most cases there's no need to start a new game when adding/removing mods. For custom content mods it's best if all players have the same mods installed. Json Assets is a little more finicky due to the dynamic ID assignment though.
sinful sundial
Thank you so much for helping us try and understand the issue. Am I correct when I say as long as she removes that mod, things should show as the mods intended? Is that the only thing that you can see as far as a problem?
boreal barn
Yeah I would worry about Json shuffle
sinful sundial
What is a Json "shuffle"?
tired brook
Try removing that mod, and see if you still have shuffled item IDs. If you do, we can see if there's anything else in the new logs.
sinful sundial
Oh! No worries! Would us removing the mods and completely reinstalling everything rectify the issue?
Going to do that now.
mental meadow
I removed the Ancient Crops folders, we will boot up another game and see if that fixed it all. Will come back if we need anything else. Thank you so much for all of your help!
sinful sundial
Do you want us to start up the game then run the logs? Or would you like another log now?
tired brook
No need for the logs, unless you're still having issues.
sinful sundial
Okay! We will try another game now! You all are so awesome! Thank you again, so much! ❤️
tired brook
Welcome! Let us know how it goes.
plain karma
how do i install mods?
old spire
do you have SMAPI?
dire fractal
!gettingstarted
native dragonBOT
If you would like a guide to setting up mods for Stardew Valley, check out the getting started guide! https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide
dire fractal
Hi, I am trying to update my smapi, but it keeps giving me this error message "Oops! You must have .NET 5 installed to use SMAPI: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download" I have never had to downlad this before so I am confused.
naive ivy
!modrecs pls dont mind me
native dragonBOT
Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
naive drum
Hi, I am trying to update my smapi, but it keeps giving me this error message "O...
which version of SMAPI are you trying to install?
dire fractal
which version of SMAPI are you trying to install?
SMAPI 3.13.0 beta 2. I had it downlaoded and working yesterday
naive drum
is there any particular reason you're using the for-developers beta?
it's for beta stardew, which updates the frameworks stardew valley itself uses significantly including going up to .net 5
naive drum
SMAPI 3.13.0 beta 2. I had it downlaoded and working yesterday
most likely issue is that you're using the beta smapi, which you shouldn't unless you're using the beta stardew, which you probably shouldn't unless you're developing or testing some code mods
go back to the stable version (non-beta stardew and SMAPI 3.12.2) and it'll stop needing .NET 5
crimson lichen
naive ivy
hi guys, please recommend me farm maps with a tolerable size, if theres any thanks!!!
naive drum
what's a "tolerable" size
are we talking tiny island farm, vanilla size, eight corners or the everfarm
naive ivy
hmm like medium sized farm map that i can easily design. not too big. not too small
i kinda dont like the options vanilla gives you so yeah
pls suggest me medium farm maps😭
craggy cradle
pls suggest me medium farm maps😭
Immersive farm twos alright, you even get a giant shed for some making with an extra greenhouse on top for it, but the maps on the larger size.. for good reason though.. the place holds many little secrets which make using the farm amazing
And getting around the farms not bad since there’s mine cart network to the two far reaching sides of the place
craggy cradle
Maybe?
naive ivy
oh
craggy cradle
I can’t quite remember since I just napped all the great mods and made a huge pack
craggy cradle
Artisan valley is awesome if you want more things to make besides pickles jelly or wine
naive ivy
let me check that out
craggy cradle
I make gin, wine, peanut butter, canned seafood, soda, and list could go on
naive ivy
im trying to figure out wich is the best, solo four corners farm or survival island
craggy cradle
Four corners is more multiplayer focused, survival is good if you like monsters, the farm with the foraging and big hardwood stumps is real nice
naive ivy
thonkthonk
naive drum
cause its part of sve
there's an immersive farm 4 out
naive ivy
WAAAAAA it replaces the beach farm wich i dont haveee
craggy cradle
Never played beach farm.. would be good for crab pots I imagine..
naive ivy
wait i kinda like trashraccs raccoon meadows..
ok raccoon meadows it is
aaaa racc meadows and secret garden farms are too pretty
mental meadow
Welcome! Let us know how it goes.
Well it definitely didn't fix it. We checked all our mod folders one by one before we started a new game and still seeing completely different things, so it seems it might be the ID issue for us.
tired brook
Can you post the three new logs?
errant hollow
mental meadow
sinful sundial
vast coral
anyone know what this wall of errors means? ive just spent the past 20 mins planting and replanting like 250+ qi seeds and now my game is stuck on saving......... 
this is whats coming up on smapi
tired brook
@errant hollow @sinful sundial @mental meadow Those logs look fine now. Are you testing with new items? Note that previously-created items which were already broken will probably stay broken if you saved after that happened.
errant hollow
No. We started a whole new game, and before starting the game we compared mods to make sure we all had the same ones.
Even deleted old save files.
tired brook
Just as a test, can you...
- remove all mods except Json Assets and one content pack;
- start a new save;
- use CJB Item Spawner to create one of the custom items;
- place it somewhere;
- check if you all see the same item?
errant hollow
Okay lets try that, one moment!
Question, do I need to delete the current save that we have, I am the host. Or can I just host a new game to test this, also we would just drag all mods to our desk top correct? We do not need a new mod folder?
So one person who is playing with us has the CJB item spawner and me and the other person do not have the spawner. She spawned in sprinkers. Do you think that could be part of the issue? Should me and Vex, just install the CJB spawner and test our current game save? Or should we do the steps you listed?
frigid sonnet
Can you guys help me with this log? Apparently the stardew valley expanded working incorrectly. And so is few of other portrat
https://smapi.io/log/259bb9e153e34fad9dca0d7ece135283
naive drum
anyone know what this wall of errors means? ive just spent the past 20 mins plan...
!oom
native dragonBOT
@vast coral OutOfMemoryException errors on Windows mean that your game ran out of memory. The game only has access to a small part of your computer's memory by default. See this page for more info and common fixes: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#OutOfMemoryException_errors_.28Windows_only.29.
naive drum
Question, do I need to delete the current save that we have, I am the host. Or c...
don't need to delete the current save; dragging the mods to the desktop is fine; CBJ item spawner in particular is designed to be safe to only install on 1 person's save
main ingot
Can you guys help me with this log? Apparently the stardew valley expanded worki...
you have a lot of conflicting mods trying to load the same thing so maybe ... take one of them out
naive drum
Can you guys help me with this log? Apparently the stardew valley expanded worki...
uninstall SVE, install a fresh download (looks like you might be either missing a couple files or dealing with detritus of older versions), and also Adarin's Girl Mod is not compatible with the anthro mod
frigid sonnet
you have a lot of conflicting mods trying to load the same thing so maybe ... ta...
Which one should I take out?
frigid sonnet
uninstall SVE, install a fresh download (looks like you might be either missing ...
Ah got it
naive drum
Anthro Characters Continued's Morris is also not compatible with SVE - see if you can disable Morris in the mod's config file if you're keeping that one?
main ingot
Which one should I take out?
idk, pick one lol
naive drum
there also might be a by-default-compatible-with-SVE version or something
tired brook
@errant hollow There's no need to delete the previous save, it won't have any effect when testing a new save. CJB Item Spawner is local, so there's no issue if not all players have it. Spawning sprinklers shouldn't have any effect on the issue (unless they were custom sprinklers).
errant hollow
I see, odd, okay we are checking your steps now.
mental meadow
@tired brook Do we need to keep Content Patcher for this test?
frigid sonnet
uninstall SVE, install a fresh download (looks like you might be either missing ...
So I need to delete the Adarin's Girl mod. Reinstall SVE and remove Morris from ACC. Right?
naive drum
yep!
tired brook
@mental meadow Nope; you should only have Json Assets, one content pack, and its dependencies (i.e. SpaceCore and Expanded Preconditions Utility).
naive drum
and then hopefully everything should work fine, takkun
tired brook
(And CJB Item Spawner.)
mental meadow
Do you have one off the top of your head that doesnt have alot of requirements so we can keep it limited?
naive ivy
is there a latest cp ver of eemies dutch buildings
main ingot
eemie doesnt maintain her stuff anymore i dont think(??) so no
tired brook
@mental meadow No idea, sorry! I don't use Json Assets content packs myself.
naive ivy
pain😔
mental meadow
<@!299923449923633153> No idea, sorry! I don't use Json Assets content packs mys...
No worries, we will find one, thank you!
errant hollow
Hey there! Sorry to bother! So I know we need the CP file, do we also need the PFM and MFM files as well?
upper ember
Yes, don't delete any folders in a mod's folder unless it specifically tells you to delete it on the Nexus page
Best to not break up any mods that are structured with multiple folders like that, they should be kept inside the same main folder
frigid sonnet
Now this error appear
hasty charm
Is there a mod manager for linux? I tried using vortex from lutris but it doesn't really work.
mental meadow
<@!299923449923633153> No idea, sorry! I don't use Json Assets content packs mys...
So we did the test, and the icons for the rabbit were completely wrong, but it still showed us it was a rabbit but the icon was a rose for the rabbit. We could both see the spawned in items. It seems to be limited to stuff thats planted and cooked.
naive drum
Now this error appear
looks like anthrod characters continued has more conflicts with SVE
this time it is the wizard and gunther
naive drum
Now this error appear
did some digging you'll need this: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods//5074/
frigid sonnet
did some digging you'll need this: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/...
So i need to install this patch right?
naive drum
yep
frigid sonnet
I have download it and install but still have the error
naive drum
i think you have to disable the Wizard and Gunther in anthro characters continued, and then the furry conversion patch overwrites SVE's own edits to those spritesheets with its own?
frigid sonnet
i think you have to disable the Wizard and Gunther in anthro characters continue...
I fix it by delete the wizard inside Content.json. But now this appear
frigid sonnet
Oh
ember cosmos
I have just discovered you can cheese the hell out of the Skull Caverns with the tractor mod >:)
frigid sonnet
oh dear.
I think i know the problem. Probably because of starfur mods.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6762
naive drum
possible!
frigid sonnet
I will delete it and try out the game
frigid sonnet
possible!
yep. Definitely because of StarFUR. Every mods running correctly now
Thanks for your help 😄
warm jolt
i keep running into stackoverflowexception, i'm guessing cause i'm trying to run too many mods?
hmm, removing some mods at least gets the game to load now, but smapi is spitting out some errors..
coarse vigil
hey all, i havent been here in a while, i just have a quick question. I just added a new custom farm map and started a new game with it. It let me pick which farm to overwrite and i picked the one i thought i was least likely to use, the wilderness farm.... its spawning enemies at night. Is there a way to stop that besides starting over? (also if i just keep it like that, do the enemies have the ability to hurt my animals when i get them?)
vivid flame
royal willow
do mods work on co-op multiplayer server?
coarse vigil
is there a console command or a mod or something i can use to make the game treat it like a different type of farm maybe?
warm jolt
do mods work on co-op multiplayer server?
yes but you should all be running the same mods or else weird stuff happens
chilly barn
is there a console command or a mod or something i can use to make the game trea...
no
coarse vigil
alright i guess im living with this. Im on day 5 which is objectively like nothing but feels like ive made too much progress to turn back now lol
dire fractal
alright i guess im living with this. Im on day 5 which is objectively like nothi...
You can edit your save file to change the farm type but that comes with its own quirks
!save
!savefile
😩
It mentions how to edit it I think
Then you’ll probably need RTF to rearrange your farm
!rtf
native dragonBOT
Reset Terrain Features (https://smapi.io/mods/#Reset_Terrain_Features) is a mod that lets you reset, clear, or generate everything that spawns on a map using an in-game menu. That's especially useful when changing maps mid-save, as the debris will otherwise use the old layout (causing things like trees in the water or bushes blocking exits).
frigid sonnet
Now this happen
dire fractal
!Log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
naive drum
hmm, removing some mods at least gets the game to load now, but smapi is spittin...
!log
native dragonBOT
@warm jolt Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
naive drum
my log and now the game keep on saving
!oom and also your ridgeside is outdated
native dragonBOT
@frigid sonnet OutOfMemoryException errors on Windows mean that your game ran out of memory. The game only has access to a small part of your computer's memory by default. See this page for more info and common fixes: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#OutOfMemoryException_errors_.28Windows_only.29.
naive drum
make sure to delete the old version of ridgeside before putting in the new version!
frigid sonnet
make sure to delete the old version of ridgeside before putting in the new versi...
oh ok
coarse vigil
You can edit your save file to change the farm type but that comes with its own ...
thank you for the info! I think ill just see what its like having this kind of farm. Its not gonna be such a problem now that i got to a point where i actually have a sword lol
royal willow
standard farm is good on stardew valley expanded rt?
dire fractal
so i have an issue where stardew valley crashes every other time i open it and idk why
frigid sonnet
I have update every mods. And it still appear this
dire fractal
If you’re positive you’ve updated your mods, those are likely the situation where the author forgot to update their version number in the manifest
frigid sonnet
Oof
naive drum
so i have an issue where stardew valley crashes every other time i open it and i...
like, you open it, it works fine, you close it, you open it again, it crashes, repeat??
dire fractal
yes/
hollow basalt
I am on the 64 version, I am hoping someone here can tell me what mods i can remove to make the game run faster!! https://smapi.io/log/53d25081cc6b426ba18ca61a81687fa4
should i have the game on my SSD?
errant hornet
You can open CM content packs' (You have Ridgeside, SVE and Downtown Zuzu's packs currently) content.jsons and change "Preload": true parts to "Preload": false
This will reduce RAM usage and help to your game's speed
muted pagoda
ssd doesn't help particularly much, incidently.
hollow basalt
You can open CM content packs' (You have Ridgeside, SVE and Downtown Zuzu's pack...
ok will try that thankyou
muted pagoda
the next step is actually flatlining those musing files into tiny silent wav's, depending on if you actually use/play the game music
that does take more work/effort though
hollow basalt
I got some improvement but, it still has not responding as its of course pre loading while the game is open
muted pagoda
oh, it will never load 'fast'
hollow basalt
oh no, i didnt figure that, its just when i load into a file it takes 5 mins at least
naive drum
thats not that bad
hollow basalt
i did want to lower the amount of mods as seen but if it means waiting to play im all for that, since finding more mods its like more bigger to handle lmao
muted pagoda
the not responding bit is normal too
royal willow
yo
so i am playing stardew valley expanded with my friend and about the willy's quest
i got it while my friend can't
like the scene won't play again
🥲
radiant patio
does anyone know of a mod that can create new warp points in a similar way to how if you leave through one exit out of the farm, it brings you to the location connected to it (example: bottom exit leads to marnie's ranch/lake area)? i want to use a custom 8 corners map, but it's so large, that it's rather pointless to have everyone's houses so far from the exit/entrance points.
scenic timber
@radiant patio I don't know of any currently working, there was Custom Warps, but it's been broken for a while.
There's custom warp locations, but that edits the totems instead of just giving a warp menu. You could use that, and just use cheats to get lots of totems.
You may try contacting the map author though, and ask nicely for a version where each square has its own exits.
signal latch
Hey guys? I just got the dreaded out of memory error message. What do I do now?
errant hornet
Hey guys? I just got the dreaded out of memory error message. What do I do now?
!oom
native dragonBOT
@signal latch OutOfMemoryException errors on Windows mean that your game ran out of memory. The game only has access to a small part of your computer's memory by default. See this page for more info and common fixes: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#OutOfMemoryException_errors_.28Windows_only.29.
radiant patio
You may try contacting the map author though, and ask nicely for a version where...
i think i found myself my own solution somewhat. i have not played stardew 1.5 yet so i didn't actually know about this one craftable warp item, it feels rather cheaty to have it instantly, but well i'm using mods anyway (and big farm maps with multiple friends, at this point seems almost required). thank you for giving me suggestions tho 💙
neat plaza
does anyone know of a mod that can create new warp points in a similar way to ho...
infinite mini warp totems i think its called
signal latch
I just put it in and the heck does this mean?
neat plaza
is there a Stardew Valley.exe file in your game folder?
muted pagoda
that's a 'you don't have dotnet5' error
though, that's not the right smapi version for that to be it, hrm
signal latch
????
muted pagoda
if you're doing 64 bit conversion that's the wrong folder to be trying to use.
signal latch
Oh. What's the right folder?
muted pagoda
the depot folder you should have downloaded in step 1.
signal latch
I can't find anything about a depot folder? Am I just blind? Sorry.
signal latch
It's downloading now. Thanks.
naive drum
yeah that looks like a fusion of the unofficial 64 bit and the official 32 bit
viral tangle
hi! stardew valley expanded refuses to launch. all my mods are updated, im not sure what the issue is
neat plaza
hi! stardew valley expanded refuses to launch. all my mods are updated, im not s...
!log
native dragonBOT
@viral tangle Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
neat plaza
reinstall sve
viral tangle
okay i reinstalled it
boreal barn
Seems like you are running bunch of mods that are meant for sdv 1.5.5 beta version but running SMAPI 13.2.1
Especially Spacecore
viral tangle
how do i use the beta version? would that fix the problem?
neat plaza
you downloaded the update meant for smapi 3.13
which isnt recommended as lots of mods dont work yet
viral tangle
how do i do that?
neat plaza
go to sdv's properties in steam, betas, then choose the monogame64 one
viral tangle
would doing this mess up the mods that are updated?
neat plaza
would doing this mess up the mods that are updated?
no
itll do the opposite, and make them work (the ones you installed the beta for)
chrome cosmos
its not recommended for players to use the beta or the beta versions of mods right now.
its meant for modders to test their mods, not for players
switch back to 3.12.2 of smapi and the versions of mods that arent in beta
viral tangle
now the game isnt launching at all
neat plaza
do you have smapi 3.13?
naive drum
switch back to smapi 3.12.2
viral tangle
switched back
naive drum
just...don't with the beta. we really need a !beta command to explain why, people come in having installed the beta when they shouldn't have so. often.
viral tangle
im sorry i didnt know!!
naive drum
it's fine!!
viral tangle
its just i upgraded my nexus acc so i could get sve and it refuses to even launch 
naive drum
you can get sve without upgrading the nexus accoutn
it's download speed not download size
viral tangle
w h a t
naive drum
yeah
viral tangle
today just keeps getting worse
naive drum
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
naive drum
with a fresh log after you've made sure you're on 3.12.2 SMAPI, 1.5.4 stardew
and hey! at least you didn't have a mod manager auto-download and auto-install the beta releases
i wonder if moddrop is still doing that actually
signal latch
Rubbing head in frustration. Trying to convert to 64 bit is a pain in the butt. These instructions feel like a foreign language to me.
naive drum
how far did you get?
signal latch
I downloaded the beta and I'm trying to install smapi but there's no Stardew executable in the folder and I don't know how to get the "right" one there.
naive drum
iirc the wiki page is slightly out of date; just running the 64 bit installer will give you an option to download linux stardew via the installer
naive drum
you do not want the official beta there boy blue!!!
naive drum
https://smapi.io/log/7c51c839cd624e18b8fece1b3ddb38f6
you have smapi 3.9.5, the current version is 3.12.2
viral tangle
you have smapi 3.9.5, the current version is 3.12.2
i just reinstalled the newest version
viral tangle
moddrop says its updated?
signal latch
Oh no mod drop
naive drum
oh no
viral tangle
hu
naive drum
https://smapi.io/ get it from here and run the installer
signal latch
Wing what executable do I want in my depot folder? I have no idea what I'm doing.
naive drum
put the entire SMAPI 3.12.2 Installer folder in your depot folder and then run it and it'll give you an option to install to the depot
viral tangle
do i not use the installer through mod drop
naive drum
i would recommend that you not
viral tangle
i dont remember how to use the launcher its been a min
naive drum
especially because oh no you actually did have your mod manager auto-download and auto-install the 3.13 betas of a bunch of mods
viral tangle
mod drop has been pretty reliable so far is it just the issues with the updates?
royal willow
is it just me or does time go way way quicker in stardew valley expanded modpack
naive drum
its been having issues with these beta updates yeah
viral tangle
i wouldnt know
signal latch
Wing it still wants that Stardew executable. X_X
viral tangle
especially because oh no you actually *did* have your mod manager auto-download ...
OH NO WHAT DO I DO
naive drum
ace with how big the world is in SVE it can feel like time is going faster
royal willow
ace with how big the world is in SVE it can feel like time is going faster
fr? it feels faster xd
viral tangle
i just want to see scarlet 
naive drum
i am not a moddrop mod manager expert but you can either a. go to the non-default release of the mod or b. download and install manually
blue can you post a screenshot?
signal latch
naive drum
ace, if you switched modpacks on moddrop and uninstalled the old loadout it's also possible that you used to have timespeed?
viral tangle
how do i do either of those things, help, i feel like an old man whos never seen a computer before
naive drum
biy blue did you delete anything from the depot?
signal latch
No
naive drum
...weird, maybe your antivirus ate it??
signal latch
Screaming
viral tangle
*Screaming*
i felt this
naive drum
krash
for mod manager: click the non-default one here and don't let it update to the newer version if it asks
and if you want to do manual install
again, the non-default
(on nexus usually the non-beta version is default, check the file description to be sure)
and it'll download as a zip file; you'll want to open this zip file and drag the contents into the Mods folder that is in your Stardew Valley folder
viral tangle
idk how to download mods without moddrop sobbing rn
like i have my mods folder
byt how do i run thmw
viral tangle
should i stip using moddrop?
naive drum
once you have the mod, unzipped, in your mods folder, SMAPI will load it automatically when it laucnhes
given the current mess with the beta i'd say yes
signal latch
Here's the depot folder. What's missing?
naive drum
moddrop is usually the "if you need a mod manager use this one" but right now it's just a mess
viral tangle
farewell moddrop
naive drum
boy blue...
are you using vortex
signal latch
If that's a mod manager thing then no I manual install all my stuff.
naive drum
okay that's...weird
viral tangle
and if you want to do manual install
again, the non-default
was this the only mod that was causing the crash?
naive drum
it should work so long as you press 1 when the installer asks you where you want to install SMAPI?
not the only mod, just an example mod
you also had SpaceCore and Chests Anywhere using the wrong version
@weary hill weird thing happened to krash here where moddrop was claiming the up-to-date versions of SMAPI were 3.13 and 3.9.5
signal latch
Wing are you talking to me or Krash sorry lol it's hard to tell.
naive drum
instead of 3.12.2 and nothing else
boy_blue it should work so long as you press 1 when the installer asks you where you want to install SMAPI?
krash not the only mod, just an example mod
you also had SpaceCore and Chests Anywhere using the wrong version
names
signal latch
Nah that didn't work
Idk what ate it
I'm just redownloading the depot and hoping for the best.
naive drum
does it work if your antivirus is off when you dwonload and install the smapi
naive drum
soemtimes antivirus software looks at smapi's "i am going to change stardew valley!" behaviour and go "that's a virus!" despite smapi having a code certificate
and then they send smapi to the quarantine void
naive drum
oh also put a blank file named Stardew Valley in the depot
just, like, make a txt file and then delete its file extension or something
signal latch
It's almost 7 am and I haven't slept. My priority is getting Stardew working. Can you tell I have my priorities in life straight?
viral tangle
krash not the only mod, just an example mod
you also had SpaceCore and Chests An...
ITS STILL CRASHING I AM GOING TO CRY
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
signal latch
Krash we're both in hell together.
naive drum
i probably missed one!
viral tangle
signal latch
I refuse to play Stardew unmodded. Once I started using mods I never went back. Mod life is best life.
signal latch
But it's also great suffering.
naive drum
oh no the beta mods refuse to leave
they are still there
i think you'll have to manually delete
viral tangle
which ones?
signal latch
Krash welcome to the world of manually managing your mods.
viral tangle
i played unmoddedon the switch once and it felt like an entire different game how do people play like that
signal latch
I have no idea Krash. They're on a different level. They scare me.
naive drum
jsonassets, spacecore, tractor mod, content patcher animations, generic mod config menu, and crops anytime anywhere
viral tangle
_Krash welcome to the world of manually managing your mods._
pain and suffering
viral tangle
_I have no idea Krash. They're on a different level. They scare me._
THEYRE JUST OKAY W THE FACT THAT THEY WALK S O SL OW
viral tangle
jsonassets, spacecore, tractor mod, content patcher animations, generic mod conf...
do i delete them and reinstall?
naive drum
also you have a ppja forage pack but it relies on More New Fish and Artisan Valley and you have neither of those but that's less important than the version mess - yeah that'll hopefully work
viral tangle
i dont have those installed
naive drum
and then instead of doing this whole launch-crash-launch-crash cycle maybe navigate to their folders and look in them for manifest.json, which is just a text file
and contains a version number - yeah you don't have more new fish or artisan valley installed so the PPJA forage pack is not working. but that's a side issue and the main issue is this beta update hell
signal latch
🔥
viral tangle
what has moddrop done to my pc
signal latch
😈
naive drum
wait actually how long does your smapi take to launch?
viral tangle
me or blue?
signal latch
Depot could you possibly download any slower?
viral tangle
like usually?
naive drum
not like, majorly important, but if it takes multiple minutes then checking the manifests to see if they no longer contain the beta version number (which helpfully is long and includes the word "beta") is going to be more convienient than this launch-crash cycle
signal latch
naive drum
there's a version of tractor mod for 3.12.2!
naive drum
on moddrop, it is listed as the non-default version
viral tangle
count your days moddrop
naive drum
like you click Download on the moddrop site, and there's 2 or 3 files listed, if there's 3 one is in a separate section and has like a "FOR ANDROID ONLY" in its description
and then there's the one labelled Default, which is the 3.13 beta version for ???? reasons, and one without a warning or the Default tag
viral tangle
has space core not been updated in a min?
naive drum
space core has a 3.12.2 version adn a 3.13 beta version
all of the pathoschild and spacechase mods have that setup
since theyre all beign maintained by pathoschild right now and pathoschild is also the creator of the modloader! he keeps his mods very up to date
...he also likes to release the updates in what we call update tsunamis. like he'll update the code for all of his mods and then release the updates all at once
signal latch
Okay. I've redownloaded the depot. Put a blank text file called Stardew Valley in it with no file extension. What next?
naive drum
run the installer again
signal latch
Which one?
naive drum
SMAPI 3.12.2
making sure its folder is in the depot folder
here's an example from my PC
viral tangle
are the rest of my mods up to date? i just reinstalled all of the ones that didnt work with the updated versions.
naive drum
there's a few that had actual updates that work with 3.12.2
viral tangle
so help me God if i launch this Stupid farm game and it crashes AGAIN
signal latch
signal latch
And yet
native dragonBOT
@tired brook ^
naive drum
i am out of ideas for that at this point
signal latch
That's fair
Calling god himself I see
XD
It's not the version of Smapi? I don't need the beta version?
naive drum
you don't need the beta version
dense mirage
How do I get into the servers?
naive drum
the what?
signal latch
I think maybe they're a non-native English speaker and meant this server's channels or something to that effect?
naive drum
they're in the server's channels???
dense mirage
K
dense mirage
I think maybe they're a non-native English speaker and meant this server's chann...
K
naive drum
oh blue did you check turning off your antivirus while running the instlaler
dense mirage
Servers
naive drum
<@&239770080378880001> is this random hamachi link allowed?
signal latch
I did try that, Wing. it didn't give me a different result.
viral tangle
was that all the mods? that whole process just took 10 years off my life
signal latch
Crosses fingers for Krash
oblique forge
I’m here I’m here
signal latch
🤞
naive drum
mystery not-writable-on-an-english-keyboard person, you're currently in the channel for unofficial game modifications and stardew uses peer to peer multiplayer
oblique forge
Servers
Please only send links to people you coop with. This is a channel to ask about how to use mods.
naive drum
so if you are asking about how to get to someone's co op game they will need to generate an invite key in game, or get your hamachi link and use connect via LAN
oblique forge
I think they might be asking how to get into hamachi server for coop
viral tangle
i am goinfg to bang my head against my desk
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
naive drum
again...
viral tangle
wing, thank you for helping me throughout this, very kind.
naive drum
oh @oblique forge are there plans for a !beta command?
signal latch
Wing is a literal goddess of patience. Much appreciate.
viral tangle
naive drum
the beta has been confusing a lot of people. also confusign: moddrop really wants to install the beta versions of everything instead of the 3.12.2 versions
viral tangle
moddrop count yo days fr
naive drum
you don't have JsonAssets and SVE needs JA
viral tangle
i just reinstalled ittt
viral tangle
huh?
naive drum
opened the Trace category on your log, you have a whole lot of still zipped mods in there!
viral tangle
what did i do wrong?
naive drum
including the current JA version!
you need to open the zip folder, and in it there's a folder wit hthe name of the mod
(in this case Json Assets)
and you need to drag that whole folder out into your Mods folder
dire fractal
i got a mod where i can turn the npcs into seeds
viral tangle
i saw that one it is so morbid
naive drum
while you're in there you have a bit of clutter - zipped Longevity (probably just delete, iirc it clashes with SVE anyways), hats.xnb, a shortcut to NPC map locations, etc
these won't negatively affect anything
but i thought i'd bring it up in case you wanted to clear out a little bit of space on your hard drive
oh you also need to unzip the SpaceCore copy that's in there, same way as you do with JsonAssets
viral tangle
doing that rn tysm
oblique forge
oh <@!458818096317202434> are there plans for a !beta command?
It’s in discussion! We will let members know when things are ready 
naive drum
yay!
i'd love to be able to just, !beta, when yet another person comes in after going "ooh! beta! shiny!" or "ooh! 64-bit stardew! this'll fix my OOMs!" or even just "i'll launch stardew via the moddrop mod manager!" and then beta badness round Too Many happens
frigid sonnet
I got this duplicated items. how do i remove it?
naive drum
krash here has been trying to fix thier mods from the beta mayhem for over an hour
moddrop did NOT want to let them go to 3.12.2 versions
takkun delete Even More Recipes and reinstall Even More REcipes
frigid sonnet
Give me a minute. There are a bunch of red error now.
naive drum
oh yeah that's just the typical JA item collision cascade error
viral tangle
krash here has been trying to fix thier mods from the beta mayhem for over an ho...
IT STILL WONT LOAD HOLD ON LET ME GIVE YOU ANOTHER LOG
naive drum
just close the SMAPI window it'll handle shutting down the game properly
frigid sonnet
naive drum
again?!
frigid sonnet
here is the SMAPI log
naive drum
as i said delete Even More Recipes and reinstall it - creme brulee changed names to remove a special character and you updated by overwriting, so now you have it under its old name and its new name so it clashes with itself
frigid sonnet
Oh
naive drum
this is why JA mods are like "delete this mod and install the new version to update, don't just overwrite"
in one memorable instance someone correctly diagnosed a JA item ID collision cascade jsut from a screenshot of the error count.
no other information at all
it's worse the more custom items you have, the more duplicate items you have, and the more loading steps JA got to before you went "oh whoops" and closed the game to sort out the issue
and iirc newer versions of JA are less spammy about it
krash this is a "did you remember to hit enter" check
viral tangle
naive drum
you're missing spacecore
viral tangle
ofc i did
hold on
i swear this took 10 years off my life i havent slept at all and im libing off monster rn and my gateway drug refuses to work
frigid sonnet
I reinstall the mod now. there are no red code but instead it turn out like this
signal latch
@naive drum For now should I just try sticking to the 34 bit version and trying to do some fixes that way? Could you help me with that? Since this 64 bit thing is impossible to figure out.
naive drum
(crash cause: no spacecore -> no JA -> most of SVE doesn't load, including the tilesheets -> pyTK sve does load though, and relies on the tilesheets -> pyTK errors every frame which is obviously bad)
boy blue that sounds fine
although it is 11:40 pm here so someone else will have to help
takkun that's fine, one mod or other that you have appears to have some optional cross-mod integration!
viral tangle
go get some rest king, ty for your patience.
signal latch
Night Wing, thanks for the help and patience.
frigid sonnet
Alright. Good sleep to you. Thanks to your assistance. Best modders ever
signal latch
viral tangle
TYSM WING
naive drum
basically mod A has bonus content if you have mod B! you don't have mod B so when JA gets to trying to load the bonus content, it finds it can't find x z and y ingredients and outputs to the console that it doesn't know what those ingredients are
thanks!
and congratulations on defeating the currnet bosfight of modding: beta hell
nigth!
viral tangle
gn !!
naive drum
huzzah on the functional game!
viral tangle
wow expanded takes a lot longer to load in
naive ivy
waaaa does someone have a older ver😔
royal willow
so i bought the backpack upgrade in SVE(2k) and now it only shows the next upgrade(for 10k) when my friend tries to buy it
dire fractal
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