#archived-modded-support

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cinder knoll
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Yep, got them

jagged marsh
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Good - That'll let you roll back further if you need to (I believe someone said it does daily (real life) saves for the last 10 days), but hopefully you don't ever need to grab them

thick prawn
native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on macOS Unix 14.5.0, with 37 C# mods and 35 content packs.

thick prawn
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sigh

stark horizon
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It's okay

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You're missing some of the dependencies for East Scarp

violet marsh
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hello, im just start using smapi but the mod always show red text

stark horizon
# thick prawn sigh

If you go to East Scarp's main mod page and click on the "Requirements" box, make sure you have all of those downloaded.

Shop Tile Framework - the version you have is outdated. Download the one in optional files - 1.0.10

thick prawn
stark horizon
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That's really odd, especially for Mac

native dragonBOT
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Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

violet marsh
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idk how to do it, but heres the problem

jagged marsh
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If it's not stopping the game, I'm pretty sure you can ignore that - if there's no other errors, just give it a try.

The link has specific instructions for how to find and post your log

violet marsh
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yeah, but i didnt find the smapi-crash.txt or smapi-latest.txt

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what about this ? the yellow one

stark horizon
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It's very hard to troubleshoot without a log

jagged marsh
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That's strange - can you take a screenshot of the folder that includes the file path? (For the log, that is).

Trying to read errors off of screenshots is inconsistent at best.

violet marsh
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i will screenshot the portraits and the assets one

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nvm its too long

jagged marsh
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My guess is you might be in the wrong directory for the SMAPI log - it's clearly running and should be logging at the point it's at

thick prawn
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SUCCESS

stark horizon
thick prawn
stark horizon
thick prawn
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[SMAPI] Skipped mods
[SMAPI] --------------------------------------------------
[SMAPI] These mods could not be added to your game.

[SMAPI] - Custom Spouse Patio 0.10.0 because it's no longer compatible. Please check for a new version at https://smapi.io/mods

[SMAPI] - Sebstian's Garage - Red Ice 1.1.0 because it needs the 'Custom Spouse Patio' mod, which couldn't be loaded.
[SMAPI] - SMAPI 4.0.8 installer because the SMAPI installer isn't a mod (you can delete this folder after running the installer file).

This is all thats showing now

stark horizon
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Custom Spouse Patio might have a new version...let me check if someone else adopted it

stark horizon
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You can actually delete the SMAPI installer folder

violet marsh
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is there a mod for reduce the loading time

twilit hedge
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sorry to be back on. here so soon, I updated my computer and the mods still aren't working but i do finally have a log

native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on macOS Unix 14.5.0, with 6 C# mods and 2 content packs.

jagged marsh
steel tree
native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 45 C# mods and 29 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

steel tree
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i know its definitely not the shane marriage dialogue that's crashing the process, but i can't seem to make heads or tails of the error at the end of the log

jagged marsh
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I think it's related to your first error - Somehow the game can't get ahold of enough memory to launch properly (Looks like the sound system is having issues?) The latter error is also related to the sound system, so I'd guess they're linked.

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I've never seen that particular error before.

twilit hedge
jagged marsh
twilit hedge
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Yeah it’s weird

jagged marsh
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What have you tried that's not working?

twilit hedge
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Just when I boot the game up it says the game has mods in it but there isn’t anything actually installed

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Loke nothing works the game runs as normal

jagged marsh
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Have you tried opening CJB's cheat menu or checked the skull cavern?

twilit hedge
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Mhm and nothings there

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And the texture changes aren’t in the world

jagged marsh
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Blah, the squirrels that call my head home skimmed over it - the DC Burger Hi Res pack is meant to be used with a mod like Portraiture

twilit hedge
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thankyou!!|

jagged marsh
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I'd be curious why CJB Cheat Menu and the skull cavern elevator one are missing - Let me go grab it and throw it in my test environment to see if I can figure out what's going on

twilit hedge
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thanks!

hasty flume
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could it potentially be related to the galaxy auth failure? genuine question im not familiar enough with that error to even know what it is

sudden summit
jagged marsh
steel tree
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I'll check

sudden summit
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those take up a lot of memory and arent really necessary for most 1.6 mods, so id strongly suggest getting rid of them to help with your first error if theyre not mandatory to your game SDVemoteheart

jagged marsh
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My game was being stubborn, @twilit hedge - still trying to test to see what's going on for you

twilit hedge
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That’s the last one not working

jagged marsh
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You were able to get the portraits loaded into Portraiture?

twilit hedge
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It’s still downloading my computes slow

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Maybe that will fix it

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Thanks for your help Xx

jagged marsh
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Portraiture will fix the portrait swap for the Hi Res portraits, but you'll need to do a little work to move the portraits over.

Once you're back in, go to the skull cavern, then go down to floor 1 - The elevator SHOULD start showing up for you then

steel tree
jagged marsh
jagged marsh
marsh saffron
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@vagrant pawn Can you describe your issue here?

vagrant pawn
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okay, so Ive been following the instructions on the guide for modding but Im running into a problem when it comes to finding my game file to put the mods in, I cant find it where the guide says it should be (I'm on windows) so I tried typing find_game_files into the SMAPI pop up window like it suggests but it tells me it cant do that and that access has been denied

upper hazel
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hmm

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is your game on steam?

marsh saffron
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Can we know which OS (Windows, Mac, Linux) and game store (Steam, GOG, etc.) did you install SDV from?

upper hazel
vagrant pawn
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yes I'm running through steam

upper hazel
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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley

marsh saffron
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There should be a Mods folder inside that if you installed SMAPI correctly

vagrant pawn
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heres a screenshot of the error message I got

marsh saffron
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Huh

upper hazel
marsh saffron
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Kaylee is fast

vagrant pawn
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I do not understand what this means, what folder am I changing the permissions on?

upper hazel
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local disk

vagrant pawn
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I do not have a local disk

upper hazel
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uhhh

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what

vagrant pawn
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I cant find that

upper hazel
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where is your stardew valley installed to?

vagrant pawn
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my....computer?

upper hazel
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no, the file location

vagrant pawn
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oh wait okay it says its installed to onedrive

marsh saffron
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You have to have a disk assigned to C:

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WHAT

upper hazel
near terrace
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(it doesn't matter if the disk is not C, but it does matter that it's installed to onedrive 😭 )

vagrant pawn
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I swear I'm not trying to be dense I just have never done any of this and understand nothing

marsh saffron
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No wonder the permissions are being wonky, OneDrive is messing with them

upper hazel
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well yeah

vagrant pawn
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I dont know what any of this means Im so sorry

near terrace
vagrant pawn
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okay how do we fix this

near terrace
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what you've basically done is install your game in the cloud, which is why smapi can't do much with it

vagrant pawn
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oooh

upper hazel
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😭

near terrace
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give me two seconds I'll grab some screenshots for you to make this easier

vagrant pawn
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I appreciate your help so much

near terrace
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no worries hehe

near terrace
vagrant pawn
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ok I have gotten this far

near terrace
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under the storage tab, I want you to see if you can see an option called "onedrive" here or something similar, and see if it's selected as your main drive. if it is, I need you to click add drive and add your C drive as an option

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It'll bring up a prompt, like so

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(your drive may not be called E or whatever, mine's just called that because it's showing me the other drive on my computer)

vagrant pawn
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I do not see a onedrive option, it has my c drive already selected

near terrace
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... huh.

vagrant pawn
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which is weird bc stardew says its on onedrive

near terrace
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okay time for plan b

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go to your steam library, and click on stardew

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next, I want you to click on the gear icon, and it'll show you a little drop down menu

vagrant pawn
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Gotcha

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Ok I see it

near terrace
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you got it?

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okay good

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mouse over manage from that drop down, and then click "browse local files"

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it'll open the game location in windows explorer automatically

vagrant pawn
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Oh got it

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I'm seeing the mods file I'm guessing I add my mods to that and should be good to go from there?

near terrace
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before that, can you tell me what path is showing in the address bar?

vagrant pawn
near terrace
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click the 3 dots

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I need the full path, because we need to solve the mystery of why smapi thinks it's in onedrive

vagrant pawn
near terrace
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ah

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it's not in one drive at all

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interesting Thonk

vagrant pawn
near terrace
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ah

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the game shortcut has been backed up

vagrant pawn
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Oh my god do I look so dumb rn

near terrace
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you're okay dw

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do me a solid
have you set your launch options in steam?

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!launchoptions

native dragonBOT
vagrant pawn
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Yeah I've done that

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I'm so sorry I feel very silly

near terrace
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(also, delete that shortcut. I think it's bungling stuff.)

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nooooo don't worry about it

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onedrive does silly things by default and you couldn't have known this would cause silly things to happen

jagged marsh
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@near terrace Just as a quick heads up - even on my computer which is set up without one drive, attempting to run show_game_files will generate the same error, so that's normal behavior.

near terrace
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Okay this is news to me and I have filed it away for future ref

jagged marsh
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Yeah - just wanted to loop you in on my quick check.

vagrant pawn
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Thank you so much for all your help I would've given up otherwise

near terrace
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moth, you still have the game folder open, right?

vagrant pawn
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Yeah

near terrace
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for when you want to add mods etc - I want you to right click on your mods folder and then click "pin to quick access"

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that way you don't have to go fishing for your game location anymore, it'll be right there for you on the left sidebar when you open windows explorer

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and yeah, all mods go in that folder, you need to unzip them in there

vagrant pawn
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Amazing you have been so helpful I would now die for you

near terrace
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I'd rather you go forth and install as many fun mods as your heart desires giggle

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(and as your pc can take)

vagrant pawn
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Thank u I just want my pig to stop being ugly

near terrace
late schooner
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hey hey. ive been having some issues. ive been trying to get a baby prompt from my wife in game for like a year now still to no avail. i cannot bring myself to believe i have the worst luck in all of human history so now im reaching out to ask the resident stardew gods to see if they can solve my problems. https://smapi.io/log/59dee557a213417f96b656dbf05b7111

native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 74 C# mods and 166 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

near terrace
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hey hey, lemme take a quick look, although sometimes baby luck just is that bad

late schooner
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i cant bring my self to believe i fumbled 50% three times in a row

near terrace
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wait till you see some people's 50/50 luck in genshin

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jokes aside, let me see...

late schooner
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imma keep shoving pie down this turtles facehole until you finish. maybe it is just my luck

near terrace
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I admittedly don't see any errors with rsv, but you have a bunch of other errors

late schooner
near terrace
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oh not just the warps

late schooner
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oh and some content packs overlap

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oh and rsv adventures is still fucked but im still tweaking that

near terrace
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you've got two mods trying to edit clint with the same level of priority, so neither patch is being applied, same goes for the witch

near terrace
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polyamorysweet has failed but i'm not familiar with how to solve that

late schooner
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thats just content pack overlaps though for visual stuff

late schooner
near terrace
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remove it and try again

late schooner
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will do

near terrace
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I... assume polysweet doesn't have any items you need to trash first?

late schooner
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nope

near terrace
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vibes

late schooner
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it just adds the ability to marry multiple people (i have extreme fomo and want to see all the events)

near terrace
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take it out of your mod folder and restart the game

late schooner
near terrace
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I'd remove one or the other

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the clint mods do the same thing anyway iirc, so you may as well just choose one

late schooner
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true

near terrace
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same with the witches

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but yeah, once you've removed polysweet, check back in and ping me if you do get the baby prompt, because I'm very intrigued to see if that's the cause of this

late schooner
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will do. game is booting back up rn

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takes a hot second because of everything

near terrace
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take your time giggle

late schooner
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update: polysweet removed. 50% obtained. still nothing

near terrace
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welp

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keep waiting a bit, I guess?

late schooner
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im gonna try cycling the crib and see if its a bug

jagged marsh
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Just to double check - you've got the nursery upgrade (Likely yes since you have the crib) - Is it a vanilla crib, or do you have any mods that tinker with it?

late schooner
jagged marsh
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Was gonna go look it up, and whoops, Nexus has started their maintenance cycle.

late schooner
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i also have to rotate the pastry shop for ridgeside to stock pie before i can test with 50% again because im out of pie to chuck at the turtle

jagged marsh
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if you're willing to tinker with 'cheating', "debug f <itemnamewithnospaces>" in console will give you the item

late schooner
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sick

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update: still no dice

jagged marsh
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Unfortunately I've never used most of the mods in question, so I'm not sure what might be causing it - best of luck

azure coral
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i added some mods using smapi and even edited the game launch option on steam page but my mods didnt load, can someone please help me?

sacred remnant
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Did the console window at least pop up

azure coral
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added the link as the command prompt said

sacred remnant
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Missing the quotes

azure coral
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oh-

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nauuurr still not working

sacred remnant
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Not all of it should be in quotes,only from the C:\ to the .exe

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Like in the guide

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"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\StardewModdingAPI.exe" %command%

azure coral
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omg i didnt know you had to add %command% as well 😭 im so dumb

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tysmm it worked however it says that 2 mods are showing error while only telling me one of them, how do i know which ones the other mod with an error

sacred remnant
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!log

native dragonBOT
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Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home Single Language, with 6 C# mods and 0 content packs.

sacred remnant
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Ok yeah its just gift taste helper, it says two bc i think it counts the lines

azure coral
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ahh okayyy. tysmmm!! 💜

sacred remnant
azure coral
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should the command prompt be open while playing the game or is it okay to close it

stone harbor
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open

azure coral
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thankss

azure coral
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a mod is overlapping pop up ui, is there a way to fix this?

sacred remnant
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You have both show item sell price and ui info suite

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Could be that

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They both want to show item sell price, plus in 1.6 ||you can see item sell price after you read a book||

vast cobalt
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Guys help please
I'm using mobile and every time when I try to get a mod that requires content patcher it won't work, it says no longer compatible how can I fix it?

vast cobalt
native dragonBOT
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Android SMAPI does not currently work for versions of SDV past 1.5.6.39. We do not know if or when it will be made compatible. It is not possible to downgrade to .39 through legal means so do not ask how to do this.

Mod support for 1.5 on Android is still experimental, so many mods are broken or buggy. That's often something SMAPI needs to fix, and we may not be able to provide a solution.

vast cobalt
vast cobalt
sacred remnant
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Latest update on mobile cant be modded

vast cobalt
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I didn't update it I'm using 1.5.6.36.

jagged marsh
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The biggest problem you're going to run into is that the leftovers of the Android scene are basically in stasis - most modders are working in 1.6, and more and more mods are going to depend on 1.6 specific features

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So you're limited to mods that still have 1.5.6 versions, and those versions will have upper limits on what they can support

vast cobalt
jagged marsh
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!log

native dragonBOT
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Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

jagged marsh
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I should be going to sleep so I can't look over it, but someone might be able to figure out the errors on versioning

vast cobalt
jagged marsh
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Either way, anyone who will be able to help will need a link to the log - that's at least a step in the right direction

vast cobalt
native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 3.18.3 with SDV 1.5.6 (build 0.0.0.0) on Android Unix 5.15.94.13, with 16 C# mods and 16 content packs.

sacred remnant
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You need an older version of AT

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!androidcompat

native dragonBOT
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Many mods are not compatible for Android, but there is an incomplete list of android compatible mods.

If you find a working mod that isn't on there, submit it by following the instructions here.

For mods not listed, they may or may not be compatible with android, but the Modding Android Wiki page provides more info on how to find a compatible version of a mod not listed in the first link.

blazing roost
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i have the mods in my mods folder but they wont work

and smapi says this but they wont load in, can someone help

neat plaza
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you haveo tunzip them

blazing roost
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only the expanded?

neat plaza
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the ones that are zipped

blazing roost
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omg thank you!!!!!

sacred dagger
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Hey there I have a question. I use a lot of mods and I am in need of new keys 😄 I would like to completely delete some controls in the vanilla key options that I dont use anyways. I dont need all the inventory slot key bindings or chatbox/emote menu. For some of the options there are also two keys used. Would love to get some more keys to use for other things. Any idea of how to do that so the slots are free? Couldnt find a way ingame and a quick google search didnt help :/

sacred dagger
# oak forum And this for the vanilla ones <https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Controls>

Yea I read through that already. With modded controls you can disable them which is great, I basically want to do the same but with vanilla controls. Just disabling some of them, and for some others only using one certain key instead of two. Two keys are for example used for Chat Box, which I dont use anyways in Single Player. But I guess its not possible to change the vanilla controls like that. Thanks for the links 🙂

outer pawn
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How do I know if my system is able to run Stardew Expanded?

oak forum
outer pawn
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Gotcha

oak forum
# outer pawn Gotcha

The good news is that 1.6 made modding sound files different so the sizing is like half, and the requirements halved as well.

You might be okay even if you have a potato for a laptop.

Best bet is to just try it

outer pawn
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Yeah the potato laptop is my concern, Thank you! I'll try it soon

oak forum
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^_^

true bloom
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Guys is it normal that my Smapi closes whenever I open it

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How does Smapi work wtf (I haven't used mods until now)

proven pewter
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That's not normal, something is wrong

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What platform are you on? (windows, mac, linux?)

spark pivot
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!log

native dragonBOT
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Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

fallow wadi
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Okay so. Played stardew valley for a bit with mods on, but wanted to play with a friends while zero mods were active. Game ran fine both times. Trying to play solo, and put the mods back + downloaded the most recent versions of the mods. Starting the game from steam normally didn’t cause any issues, but now all that happens is the terminal opens, lists everything, it says that stardew valley is running, but there isn’t a visible game running. /I’m on mac
I’m not sure what I did wrong so 🫠
^the terminal says everything is fine as well, the game just won’t actually load

fallow wadi
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Nvm I thibk the whole computer is breaking lmao every game is loading this way

sacred dagger
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Is there a way to reset the ui elements while playing? I played a cutscene, the first one did nothing, the second one is about Shane in the Joja Mart. I am not sure if its vanilla or not, but after that my whole ui elements were gone. Interesting enough, different modded ui elements were still accessible, I also could enter into the Inventory with E. But Toolbar and the infos on the top left corner were not visible anymore. Will have to see if its still like that the next day and I guess its gone when restarting but it would be nice to find out the reason for that. Stardew Druid put out some errors, there were the only ones showing in red on that day. I Use UI Info Suite 2 too. Any ideas if these mods conflict or if there is an easy solution in general to bring back the Interface?

Error was: [game] WARNING: Mismatched UI Mode Push/Pop counts. Correcting.
[game] An error occurred in the base update loop: ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection. (Parameter 'index')
at StardewDruid.Journal.Druid.receiveClickQuesting(Int32 x, Int32 y) in C:\Users\piers\source\repos\StardewDruid\StardewDruid\Journal\Druid.cs:line 1527
at StardewDruid.Journal.Druid.receiveLeftClick(Int32 x, Int32 y, Boolean playSound) in C:\Users\piers\source\repos\StardewDruid\StardewDruid\Journal\Druid.cs:line 1211
at StardewValley.Game1.updateActiveMenu(GameTime gameTime) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Game1.cs:line 4798
at StardewValley.Game1._update(GameTime gameTime) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Game1.cs:line 4010
at StardewValley.Game1.Update(GameTime gameTime) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Game1.cs:line 3185
at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.SCore.OnPlayerInstanceUpdating(SGame instance, GameTime gameTime, Action runUpdate) in SMAPI\Framework\SCore.cs:line 1084"

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Just to show you how it looks. I can play just normally but the UI on top is just gone. Any other element is working fine, can enter maps (Using NPC Map Locations).

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After the next cutscene it suddenly worked again. Weird. I guess there are some problems with the github version of UI Info Suite connected to certain cutscenes.

oak forum
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I know they're where a few things the author was working on

sacred dagger
dire fractal
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what file should I run stardew valley on steam without mods?

oak forum
native dragonBOT
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When asking for help with modding issues, please:

  • Ask in #archived-modded-support
  • Try to explain what the issue or problem is. Please be specific!
  • If it's SMAPI installation related, please state whether you're using Windows/Mac/Linux and Steam/GOG/Gamepass.
  • Provide a log if you have one (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions). Please provide a log even if there's no errors or warnings! If you are playing multiplayer, we will need a log from every player.
  • Please remember no one's getting paid to answer your questions! It may take some time for someone to answer! If no one has answered in a few hours, feel free to ask again
oak forum
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I'm at work please don't @ me for support and be patient

dire fractal
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srry

jagged marsh
rare cove
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guys i tried to use Expanded Preconditions Utility but when i put that in the game it said that this is not the newest version bc it's 1.0.1 but i can't seem to find the newest version

rare cove
#

?

jagged marsh
#

You need the alpha version (1.0.2). From the web page:

Is the mod still compatible?
The mod is compatible with Stardew Valley 1.5.5 or later on Linux/macOS/Windows, both single-player and multiplayer.

For Stardew Valley 1.6 or later, see the optional file on the 'Files' tab.

sudden summit
plush topaz
#

Also keep in mind EPU is obsolete and whatever mod is depending on it may have an updated version that removes it as a dependency. Which mods you are using that still needs EPU?

rare cove
#

lockpicks ...

rare cove
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yeah lockpicks don't work either

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but i noticed that they don't like don't so yeah

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so nvm but thx

hasty coral
#

When using machine progression system, when an item is finished processing sometimes the machine has a different texture? For example, when my beehouse has honey ready, the beehouse turns into a cactus lol. Does this happen to anyone else?

loud bay
idle iron
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I have a strange question. Abt modding in gen. stardew would it be the same as modding any game say rdr2?/gen

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sorry if thats dumb btw

oak forum
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Can you unzip the smapi installed somewhere else

native dragonBOT
oak forum
#

I'd recommend this guide Jas ^

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It might actually be easier than rd2

loud bay
idle iron
#

I know how to mod but would it be the same fo rd?

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/nm

oak forum
#

This is support for stardew?

idle iron
#

but the action of unzipping

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and adding it into the game?

oak forum
#

You'll need to go ask in a red dead server

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This is modded support for stardew 😅

idle iron
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Sorry abt that my brain is being weird rn

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😅

loud bay
blazing fog
#

Hey guys, does anyone know about modding Stardew? :3 I just can't get it right despite watching videos, I've tried several times :c I thought maybe someone could take me by the hand :D. Second question is, can I then play my modded Stardew on the Steam Deck? o:

mossy fossil
neat plaza
#

!gs

native dragonBOT
blazing fog
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would be great :3 i tried it often to make my stardew look more pinkish and kawaii but always failed x.x xD

mossy fossil
#

What is the current situation here?

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What exactly isn't working? Or do you not know?

loud bay
#

can someone help please

shell python
#

Is this an error with installing mods or installing smapi?

loud bay
#

smapi

sly elm
neat plaza
shell python
#

Is modding stardew on steamdeck the same process as linux pc's?

native dragonBOT
#

@shell python You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

shell python
#

cool

blazing fog
loud bay
neat plaza
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no those spaces arent escaped

loud bay
neat plaza
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./install\ on\ Windows.bat

loud bay
neat plaza
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then encase itin double quotes and remov ethe esacpes

loud bay
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didnt work

neat plaza
#

what did you enter

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if you type dir whats the output

loud bay
neat plaza
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and what did you type for encasing with double quotes

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why are you running from cli anyway? did double clicking not work?

loud bay
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yes it crashes

loud bay
#

@neat plaza

spark pivot
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can you try moving the script off onedrive folder

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for example to your documents folder

hexed herald
#

does anyone know what is going on with these shirts??? Im pretty positive the mod is Do Eun's Female Ribbon Shirts, its a JA mod, and it worked just yesterday, but now, as you can see, some of the shirts are all glitched and weird??

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most of them seem to just have minor errors to them, I've only seen major errors on those ones in the middle, but I havent checked all the shirts from all angles, so others could have errors from other angles

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for another example, the left is what the shirt suddenly looks like, and the right is what it should, or what it has looked like in the past

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I might just keep refreshing the game and hope it fixes itself, cause literally it was fine just yesterday, so Im hoping its just a fluke or something

sly elm
hexed herald
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okay I thought maybe it was one mod interfering with another, but now im completely at a loss as to what is wrong with this mod- everytime I close then restart the game, the clothing changes?? like ones that had issues in the front now have a different issue in the back, and ones that seemingly had no issues now do? I might just need to try re-downloading the mod, but I just have no idea what caused this, since its never happened before

restive stirrup
#

Are East Scarp, Stardew Valley Expanded, and Ridgeside Village all compatible with each other?

neat plaza
#

yes

restive stirrup
#

Thank you!

loud bay
#

@neat plaza thank you for trying to help me i found a way to do it Manually and it worked

native dragonBOT
#

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

thick prawn
sharp hazel
#

Do y'all know if there's any way to figure out what mods I was using from a save file? (I wiped my PC but didn't have my list of mods stored anywhere and I don't want to break my save by attempting to load it)

native dragonBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 58 C# mods and 301 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

modest grail
#

But if you wiped your PC, that log may be gone.

sharp hazel
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Yes

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Completely wiped

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SSD filled with zeros and then formatted for a windows install

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I'll just start a new save and find some new mods, no worries

sudden summit
hexed herald
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I know both of them, I believe its only these two,

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I mostly noticed errors with ones from the ribbon shirts set, but there were a couple with the frill set as well

sudden summit
#

mmm okay, do any of your other json assets clothes break like that?

hexed herald
#

none from what I could tell

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I can pull up the game again, to check, but I didnt see anything that looked amiss (at least from the front picture)

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I know I have LOTS of mods that say they can be updated, but some of them arent really updates, and none of them have to do with clothing, or would effect them from my knowledge

sudden summit
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i ask because JA is pretty much obsolete, even if you have the mods required to run it - theres a converter you can use to turn those into content patcher if youd like to try it

sudden summit
#

generally id recommend updating all of your mods, because even things you dont think will have an affect can DKJHFDSJK

hexed herald
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ah I see...I just dont know why these errors are appearing now

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While the frill set I got earlier in june, I've had the ribbon set since 2022, and its worked fine all this time

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today was the first time ive had any issues

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I know JA is basically obsolete, but even though I know it should be easy, I've struggled with converting XNB mods to content patcher before, so I fear I might have similar issues with converting JA, which is why it would be my last resort

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Ill try updating my old mods, and then Ill delete and re-install the broken ones, and Ill see if that fixes things

sudden summit
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thats all i can really recommend myself short of validating your game files, from your log it seems like the clothes themselves load in fine so updating your mods and reinstalling the broken ones seems like the move

hexed herald
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okay! honestly I remember now why updating mods is a pain, and its because all of the ones smapi RECOMMENDS fixing, are already in their latest version. I've downloaded the latest version of them all, but it keeps saying I havent, or for two of them, there's both an AT and a CP version, and I just got one and not the other, which makes things tricky

marsh saffron
#

!manifesterror

native dragonBOT
#

If SMAPI tells you that a mod can be updated even if you have already downloaded the latest version, it may be an error with the manifest's version number. To check, open the mod's manifest.json and change the version number to match the mod page if they do not already match.

hexed herald
#

oh! thats super helpful, thank you!

thick prawn
#

Does anyone know if there is an up-to-date Walk to Desert and Garden Village?

modest grail
# hexed herald oh! thats super helpful, thank you!

Just in case it's NOT a manifest error, it's worth making sure your old copies of the mod folders are completely removed before adding the new ones in. If you do the whole "overwrite existing files" method it can sometimes not update them properly.

hexed herald
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oh yeah, I remember having issues with doing that in the past, thank you!

hexed herald
#

long story short, I updated all my mods and I load the game, I walk around, and the shirt i am currently wearing seems to be fine, so I assume its fixed. then, I open up the item spawner to check if the others look fishy and they still are glitched, just different ones now. I know you talked about converting JA to CP, is there an easy converter you know of @sudden summit ?

sudden summit
#

!converters

sudden summit
#

the JSON assets to CP one above doesnt do clothing, but the one for fashion sense may work

hexed herald
#

the converting spritesheets one?

sudden summit
#

you shouldnt need the spritesheets! theres a code you run

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excuse the embed i am on mobile FHSJFK

#

there may be easier converters to use but somebody else here would know more about that than i would as i usually do xnb conversions

hexed herald
#

its alr! just the whole download and setup is confusing, but Ill hopefully figure it out eventually...

sudden summit
hexed herald
#

yeah the only converter ive ever used was XNB to png, and it was just you add the file then click a button so im not great with the github command converters, but again, ill just trial and error it, and worst case scenario, I cant figure it out and ill just give up (I have other clothing mods, this one is just my favorite)

#

okay! ill do that after i try it out a bit myself first and i have no luck

sudden summit
#

best of luck!

hexed herald
#

mhm! thanks for your help! (I really needed to update my mods anyways and I was putting it off, so at the very least I got that done)

bitter tinsel
#

hi everyone! I hope I do this right ~ I recently wiped my gaming laptop and reset it, so I reinstalled Stardew off steam and a fresh version of SMAPI. However, I cannot get the game to load with SMAPI. The error log also isn't super helpful? I have used the wiki/troubleshot as much as I can but I can't seem to figure out what's wrong.

https://smapi.io/log/2a8d72930ca8459ca28a19d24a9c1da3

native dragonBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 0 C# mods and 0 content packs.

bitter tinsel
#

I haven't installed any actual mods yet cause I wanted to make sure I could at least get the game open.. lol

gaunt gust
#

!troubleshoot see step 2

native dragonBOT
bitter tinsel
#

using the command line?

gaunt gust
bitter tinsel
#

okay, I think I did this all correctly? And its still not opening

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hang on let me see if I can figure out the graphics thing

stark horizon
bitter tinsel
#

sorry I'm not very computer savvy when it comes to this stuff

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wait I think you might have fixed it!

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let me add some mods real quick and test

edgy escarp
#

(emotional support)

bitter tinsel
#

I'm sorry, that didn't work 😦

#

Switching the graphics to high seems to let it open, but it's like it's not even registering there are mods

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I think it was the graphics! It's pulling up now! Thank y'all so much!

subtle flare
#

Someone remind cause I know it existed. Their is a seasonal map mod for expanded right?

thick prawn
stark horizon
broken wraith
#

bumping in case anyone knows the answer re: obtaining cooking chocolate in love of cooking alpha

modest grail
#

Your question is more focused on gameplay rather than fixing something that broke 🙂

native dragonBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on macOS Unix 14.5.0, with 39 C# mods and 51 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

stark horizon
# thick prawn https://smapi.io/log/795f5cae4e6248c29eaeaedb8be92e40

I know how to fix this, but I'm not on my computer right now. What you need to do is find which mod references "Custom_WTDR_GhostTown." Conduct a "Find & Replace" --> input Custom_WTDR_GhostTown --> replace all instances of that with Tarniyar.CP.WalkToDesert_Ghost_Town.

thick prawn
rough sable
#

Hello, I haven't played since 1.6 and I updated all of my mods that I could but my chests look like the picture. How do I make it so everything isn't all scrunched up? Thank you!

tepid hawk
#

!howtoask

native dragonBOT
#

When asking for help with modding issues, please:

  • Ask in #archived-modded-support
  • Try to explain what the issue or problem is. Please be specific!
  • If it's SMAPI installation related, please state whether you're using Windows/Mac/Linux and Steam/GOG/Gamepass.
  • Provide a log if you have one (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions). Please provide a log even if there's no errors or warnings! If you are playing multiplayer, we will need a log from every player.
  • Please remember no one's getting paid to answer your questions! It may take some time for someone to answer! If no one has answered in a few hours, feel free to ask again
broken wraith
tepid hawk
chilly galleon
#

yall who play stardew valley expanded: susan is NOWHERE to be seen

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like 90% of the time

inland folio
inland folio
#

!log

native dragonBOT
#

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

thin nymph
native dragonBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 77 C# mods and 113 content packs.

inland folio
# thin nymph hi! so i installed plenty of mods and the game freaks out and die on my hand 😭 ...
  • for your galaxy auth error you need to repair/reinstall gog galaxy.

  • for hugs and kisses, please check your config to see if any settings related to being related and change to "false". if that doesn't fix the error, then you'll need to file a bug report (include a new log with the error) with the mod author and/or remove the mod. iirc the red text doesn't actually impact the game, but i'm sure the mod author would appreciate knowing.

  • i can't access nexus to check the file contents, but you might need to simply remove and reinstall multiple spouse dialogues. it's saying it's missing a file.

thin nymph
#

though i'm curious what leaded to the crash?

inland folio
#

That one I’m not sure, but hopefully repairing galaxy will help. If it doesn’t then we might need to try something else

untold zenith
#

bruh why abigail in there

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when i turned on mature events sve the npc like this , when i turn off the bug still intach

native dragonBOT
leaden orchid
#

So I have a question. and I'm asking it cause it's really really really late, and my brain isn't braining the best.

For making an HDP portrait mod into a portraiture mod, do I put them into the portraiture folder (not the portraits folder, I know that much) or do I put them into their own folder but remove the dependency for HDP?

flat crater
#

i don't need the "console commands" and "save backup" folders in m mods folder, yeah?

jagged marsh
jagged marsh
leaden orchid
jagged marsh
flat crater
#

when i boot up stardrop, it says unknown smapi version in the top right by the play button... what i do o:

jagged marsh
flat crater
jagged marsh
#

Take a quick look at the field - see if it matches

flat crater
jagged marsh
jagged marsh
# flat crater

Hmm. Just in case there's something weird going on, can you go to your Stardew Valley folder, click the filepath at the top, then copy the full path into the SMAPI path on Stardrop?

#

Want to rule out whether any strange characters or something ended up in the line

flat crater
#

I did that and restarted Stardrop, now the version shows, so I''m assuming it worked lol

jagged marsh
#

Who knows - could have been Stardrop being weird, could be there was a single misplaced character. Glad it's working now

foggy cipher
#

guys why cant i fix this

jagged marsh
native dragonBOT
#

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

devout stag
#

its my first time installing mods + im on my phone (i downloaded smapi) so i have no idea if im doing aynthing wrong 😭
when i try to launch smapi sdv, it crashes every time, how do i remedy this?

#

(btw i have the og sdv installed,, if thats the problem please do tell me)

true bloom
#

!mobilemods

#

!modsmobile

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man

#

!mobilemodding

#

Chat whats the difference between SDV 1.5.6.39 and SVD 1.5.6.52

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Like game play wise

native dragonBOT
#

Android SMAPI does not currently work for versions of SDV past 1.5.6.39. We do not know if or when it will be made compatible. It is not possible to downgrade to .39 through legal means so do not ask how to do this.

Mod support for 1.5 on Android is still experimental, so many mods are broken or buggy. That's often something SMAPI needs to fix, and we may not be able to provide a solution.

devout stag
#

dang 😭

#

no date night or poly for me then 😔😔

slate scroll
#

hey Im having an issue
I tried running the morning dew modpack from curseforge and got the error saying steam isnt linked
I was getting achievements ingame but no through steam but assumed they were achievements I already had, but now Im seeing its because steam isnt linked
the tutorial I found is wanting me to extract files into my steam stardew valley folder, where I would have to manually update them, and I'm guessing, it would be annoying to deal with in my playthrough with a friend as it has different mods
is there any simple way I can just make steam achievement connect with curseforge, cause I launch the pack through curseforge

full void
#

Does anyone have the mod Automate? I'm just wondering if I could put an auto grabber on one side and some machines on the other and it'll automatically process stuff without me having to be the go between. (Sorry, this might not be a tech question? Wasn't sure where was the best place to ask)

mossy fossil
near terrace
slate scroll
#

is this right?

#

smapi internal is outside of the "mods" folder?

near terrace
#

that is right!

slate scroll
#

it also looks like it saved my mods somehow?

#

this is steam, not curseforge

near terrace
#

You'll want to rename "mods" to Mods", though, I think it's case sensitive

near terrace
slate scroll
#

yea

#

i didnt do anything

#

this was from curseforge

near terrace
#

yeah that's probably just where curseforge installed them haha

full void
slate scroll
#

so then I dont need to re-install?

near terrace
#

I'd run the game first and see how much red text you get in the smapi console, tbh

slate scroll
#

well, actually some of them didnt work, specifically distant lands needed me to download something else, and then wild flowers just didnt work at all

near terrace
#

then you decide if you need to reinstall - oh

#

Please download everything afresh from Nexus then, and pay attention to the required mods - Nexus has a requirements tab on each mod page to show you what you need

slate scroll
#

yea I will re download stuff

#

so I should just wipe my mod folder? it wont cause any weird errors with my world save? I guess I did make a backup file incase as the video said

near terrace
#

You should be fine

slate scroll
#

and then, 2nd question, after I do that, can I delete the zipped file I extracted from? the same question applied to smapi, and really just any other situation where Im extracting files from a zipped file

near terrace
slate scroll
#

thanks

#

does that apply to all situations where I unzip a file?

near terrace
#

yep!

slate scroll
#

Im not too familiar with manually handling files like this

#

sweet, thanks

near terrace
#

if you select a destination folder, the contents of the zip are put there

sly marsh
#

hi do you guys know how to force complete a vanilla special order request (gus' omelet) in the smapi box?

jagged willowBOT
oak forum
#

Be cautious when using the debug commands

sly marsh
vague gate
#

hii i have a question about stardrop... i did this but for some reason when i press play it wont work

wicked cloud
#

hi, im unable to stream my modded farms on discord. it just shows my inventory, i havent seen any pinned messages regarding this issue, can anyone help me please?

pulsar perch
#

Hi, im really new to sv and i decided to get sv bc i heard it can play multiplayer with friends, but i get it on mobile (i dont know yet it's only available on pc) and i found the multiplayer mod for mobile but always get error. Is the mod publisher gonna fix it or make an update about it in the future?

sudden summit
#

!androidmods

native dragonBOT
#

Many mods are not compatible for Android, but there is an incomplete list of android compatible mods.

If you find a working mod that isn't on there, submit it by following the instructions here.

For mods not listed, they may or may not be compatible with android, but the Modding Android Wiki page provides more info on how to find a compatible version of a mod not listed in the first link.

sudden summit
#

!androidsmapi

native dragonBOT
#

Android SMAPI does not currently work for versions of SDV past 1.5.6.39. We do not know if or when it will be made compatible. It is not possible to downgrade to .39 through legal means so do not ask how to do this.

Mod support for 1.5 on Android is still experimental, so many mods are broken or buggy. That's often something SMAPI needs to fix, and we may not be able to provide a solution.

upbeat haven
#

helloo if I were modify an old mod pre 1.6 would i need to install an older version of .NET?

spark pivot
#

So if you want mod to run on 1.6 then you need net 6, and for 1.5 I believe it's net 5

west shore
#

i just got the stardew valley expanded mod on to my save but for some reason the new villagers wont get out of bed, is there a reason?

sacred remnant
#

Is this just on the first day? Or have you already played multiple days? Iirc custom NPC schedules tend to not work on the first day they're added and you need to sleep at least once for them to start moving

west shore
#

yes its the first day 😭 i will go onto the next day

#

thank you!

radiant orbit
#

Hello, is there a newer version of SMAPI compatible with Stardew Valley 1.6.8? The last one doesnt let me launch the game because it's outdated.

sacred remnant
#

it is

#

try again, if your game version changed recently the first launch of SMAPI wont work

radiant orbit
#

I just reinstalled it today and launched it for the first time. Should I try launching it multiple times and see if it works?

sacred remnant
#

what does the SMAPI window say exactly?

radiant orbit
sacred remnant
#

oops, you are on a pretty old version of SMAPI

radiant orbit
#

I just downloaded 4.0.8

sacred remnant
#

did you run the installer?

radiant orbit
#

I tried clicking on it multiple times, something shows up for a split second and then it disappears.

sacred remnant
#

the .bat is what you're trying to run?

radiant orbit
#

yes, 'install on windows'

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is it required for the smapi folder with the installers to be in the stardew valley folder when i click on the installer/

#

?

sacred remnant
#

okay, try going to internal -> windows -> and running the SMAPI.Installer.exe there?

radiant orbit
#

now i can farm away for 24h

sand agate
#

Does anyone know what's causing this to happen? That dark red colored dot is my character and it moves around when I press wasd. I can interact with things, but I can't tell what I'm interacting with. Ridgeside village btw

vestal glacier
#

im having some problems with portraits in one of the mods, its called buxomsandyportrait

#

!log

native dragonBOT
#

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

vestal glacier
native dragonBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on macOS Unix 14.5.0, with 24 C# mods and 30 content packs.

vestal glacier
#

can anyone help????

thick prawn
vestal glacier
#

and theres like no portrait of her

vestal glacier
#

thats old log

native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on macOS Unix 14.5.0, with 24 C# mods and 30 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

vestal glacier
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updating mods is not it

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portrait doesn't show

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even worse

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portrait and sprite

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arent the one i want

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okay no

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the portrait isn't working

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yay help!!!

rose star
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Support is provided by community volunteers, please remember to be patient and respectful while seeking support help

shell python
vestal glacier
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my mod for sandy sprites and portaits doesn't work

vestal glacier
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im trying to understand which mod blocks changing

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to new portraits

edgy escarp
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It's probably because it hasn't been updated since 2019 hmm_whod_have_thunk_it

shell python
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Try uninstalling and reinstalling content patcher

shell python
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Because mods get updated with different version

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what version of content patcher do you have in your files

edgy escarp
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Because that might be why it's broken

vestal glacier
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2.0.6

shell python
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There it is

vestal glacier
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i updated it

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trying to start

shell python
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should work then

vestal glacier
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you arent going to believe this

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it didnt work

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@shell python

shell python
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Is the portrait mod up to date itself?

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content patcher is the only required mod for it so im not sure what else it could be

vestal glacier
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look

edgy escarp
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The Sandy one hasn't been updated since 2019
So you'll either have to update it yourself (for personal use)
Or use something like Portraiture instead

vestal glacier
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listen

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listen

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sprite works

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portrait dont

shell python
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just try updating the mod

vestal glacier
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okay

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im not the only one with problem

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ill find another mod

shell python
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..ok

gray tide
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hello i wanted to see if i could get some help with modding, this is my first time and im on mac ios!

sudden summit
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!gs this guide is a good place to start!

native dragonBOT
gray tide
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thank you!!!

vestal glacier
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[Content Patcher] Patch error: Seasonal Cute Characters > Sandy Seasonal Include > assets/Code/Sandy.json > Load Sandy's Outfits (Portraits/Sandy_black_dress) has a FromFile which matches non-existent file 'assets/Portraits/Sandy/Sandy_black_dress.png'.

native dragonBOT
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@vestal glacier You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

vestal glacier
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need help

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okay sorry

sudden summit
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redownload the mod

vestal glacier
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no

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its from 2019

shell python
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nice ghost ping

vestal glacier
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portraits dont work

vestal glacier
shell python
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it shouldnt be that hard to just redownload the mod dude

sudden summit
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seasonal cute characters???

shell python
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just try it

vestal glacier
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im trying to change them for seasonal cute characters

vestal glacier
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like i have sprites

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portraits*

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im trying to change the code and put another portraits so it works

sudden summit
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okay dude im gonna be so real youre being a mega jerk, nobody here can help you set up your nsfw mod as its against the rules and if you mess with seasonal cute characters itll break

vestal glacier
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i dont need nsfw mod 😠😠😠

sudden summit
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figure it out yourself and stop hassling people who dont respond to your requests for help in 3 seconds

vestal glacier
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the mod has sprites

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i dont need nsfw im not freak

shell python
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we looked through the mods you have installed

vestal glacier
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i dont think u listen to me

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but i dont need arguing

near terrace
vestal glacier
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im saying again, mod has portrait that i need

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meh its easier to create a new one

shell python
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im confused what your even trying to do at this point

vestal glacier
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okay

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ill try to formulate a sentence

near terrace
vestal glacier
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one old, really old mod

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has sprites and portraits that aren't nsfw

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and they look sick

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im trying to fix the problem by changing

near terrace
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Enough

vestal glacier
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can i atleast say it???

near terrace
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We already know the mod you're trying to get help with, and it is indeed NSFW

vestal glacier
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and nsfw mod has optional sprites and portraits

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that you can pick from

near terrace
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I will not say this again

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Enough.

vestal glacier
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😠😠😠

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im going to fix it myself

gray peak
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im using vortex to mod the game, but the mods arent affecting the game

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im playing thru gamepass if that matters

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can anyone help me :3

near terrace
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!gs use this guide to get you started on manual modding

native dragonBOT
zealous sorrel
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Hello ppl, i have an issue, i gave the resources and money to robin to upgrade pams house, but she didnt start repairing it, robin is still behind her counter and i have every option when i interact exept community upgrade, anyone familiar with this and how to fix it?

sly elm
zealous sorrel
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Yes , its my third day since then

sly elm
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hmmm which date is it in game?

zealous sorrel
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Year 3 thur.18 th

sly elm
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which season?

zealous sorrel
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Winter

sly elm
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okay so it's not the new festival interfering.

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could you send a log please?

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!log

native dragonBOT
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Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

shell python
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your using mods right?

zealous sorrel
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Alot 😅

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Ok, she finished the house, sry for bothering you, i just though robin should not be available for building on farm while she is doing that

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All good, sry for trouble

sly elm
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😆 no worries, that's good to know she's not gone while building Pam's house. I didn't know that either, might be a game mechanic for buildings not on the farm. (or its a mod)

zealous sorrel
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As i recall when i was playing vanilla im sure she was hammering at least im 100% sure for second upgrade , (shortcurs) but maybe some of my mods made her usable while doing that i guess

gray peak
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help why is the smapi just a black screen
it also wont open anymore

white island
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Does someone know how to install mods on mobile? I tried following multiple tutorials but it just won't work/:

neat plaza
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!androidsmapi

native dragonBOT
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Android SMAPI does not currently work for versions of SDV past 1.5.6.39. We do not know if or when it will be made compatible. It is not possible to downgrade to .39 through legal means so do not ask how to do this.

Mod support for 1.5 on Android is still experimental, so many mods are broken or buggy. That's often something SMAPI needs to fix, and we may not be able to provide a solution.

gray peak
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the mods still arent working

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idk how to use the smapi

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😭

tribal cave
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One of your mods adds items of some type which have a name or ID conflict with either the base game, or another mod.

Archipelago tries to list everything at the start for quick lookups, and now fails. An artifact of the 1.5 code which I will modernize someday.

In the meantime. Try removing mods until you find the one in conflict I guess

inland oyster
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heya kaito

tribal cave
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Note: mods that add content are often inherently incompatible with archipelago, due to their content being locked by archipelago, and then never unlocking as the archipelago server didn't generate unlocks for them

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Texture mods and supported mods are fine though

neat plaza
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are fashion packs clientside, or must all users have them? (obviously they wouldn't be visible on the client, but would there be major issues if not present?)

zealous sorrel
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Me again 🤣

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Anyone knows how to fix this?

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Texture with tree

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Its poking my eyes

hasty flume
# zealous sorrel Its poking my eyes

That's a bug with wttdr and sve, sve gets rid of that tree and wttdr's map patch thinks it's still there and only covers half of it. The only way to fix it is to go into wttdr's maps in tiled and delete the tree

zealous sorrel
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Whats wttdr?

hasty flume
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Walk to the desert redux

zealous sorrel
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Oh

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Ia it complicated to delete that tree?

hasty flume
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No, but it involves figuring out how tiled works and that's not exactly an intuitive program

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Your other option is to report it to either mod page and hope one of the authors decides to fix it themselves

zealous sorrel
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Ok, thank you

lime scarab
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Why is SVE doing this in the secret woods?!

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Just like....floating bushes?

hasty flume
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Did you click the bush statue?

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It's a feature of visible fish. The statue summons the flying wall basket armada

hasty flume
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Yep. It used to be a bug but it got patched. Visible fish's author thought it was so funny they decided to immortalize it

lime scarab
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LOL

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I love it

inland oyster
leaden orchid
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okay, question. I'm just asking this to make sure, but. Is it normal for SVE to download as an EMPTY folder?

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cause it keeps doing it

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I've downloaded it like three times now

jagged marsh
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That's not normal - it should be a folder containing 3 subfolders, one for each component of SVE

leaden orchid
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i thought s

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*so

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I don't know why Nexus is being so mean and not giving me anything other than the empty folders

hasty flume
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You're not using vortex, are you?

leaden orchid
jagged marsh
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Should be a zip file containing a folder labeled "Stardew Valley Expanded", and inside of it are three folders named "[CP] Stardew Valley Expanded", "[FTM] Stardew Valley Expanded", and "StardewValleyExpanded"

hasty flume
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What

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How are you downloading from vortex? Vortex is a mod manager

jagged marsh
leaden orchid
hasty flume
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Ok, that makes more sense

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Have you tried downloading it manually?

leaden orchid
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I did yee

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I first tried from Nexus via the automatic update, that didn't work, so I went to the modpage itself and downloaded it from there via the mod manager download. Didn't work. Then I downloaded it manually, tried to throw the ZIP file into Stardrop and it finally gave me an error

Unable to load the file located at "C:\Users\xxbor\Downloads-Stardew Valley Expanded--3753-1-14-46-1717272278\Stardew Valley Expanded".

Went into the logfile for Stardrop and it gave me this

[7/11/2024 6:48:55 PM][Alert][MainWindowViewModel.DiscoverMods: Line 348] Unable to load the manifest.json from C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Mods\Hunger: System.Text.Json.JsonException: The JSON value could not be converted to System.String. Path: $.Version | LineNumber: 0 | BytePositionInLine: 58.
---> System.InvalidOperationException: Cannot get the value of a token type 'StartObject' as a string.

jagged marsh
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Does the actual zip file / folder look correct?

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It might be that Stardrop is just handling it poorly for some reason.

leaden orchid
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Yep. It looks like the one you get from Nexus

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It probably is

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But I'm not sure how to fix it

jagged marsh
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Close Stardrop, go to the directory it's adding mods, then manually move the folder over from the zip?

leaden orchid
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what I might do is just throw it into my mods folder manually and make it eat it work that way

leaden orchid
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I'll let y'all know how it goes

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I'm gonna try launching the game again

winter egret
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Back playing with modded gameplay and installed few storage mods. Got 2 questions,

  1. Since ChestEX isn't updated, I just found a mods to change a storage size, it's Better Chests. How do I remove that text on top of the screen?
  2. If I remember, Chests Anywhere menu isn't clipped to the storage slots, is this a new feature or is there a way to move the menu?
leaden orchid
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I'll paste the new log and then post it here. But at this point I'm wondering if I should go to the SVE discord and post about the bug there too?

native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 320 C# mods and 1661 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

leaden orchid
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Here's the log!

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the out of date mods its referring to are mods that are either manifest issues or don't have 1.6 updates yet (pretty sure anyway)

jagged marsh
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Did you start a farm and look?

leaden orchid
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the only thing I can think is maybe there's a conflict somewhere?

jagged marsh
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I'd highly recommend creating a separate folder, prefix it with a . and move all the invalid mods over to it, then run a new log

leaden orchid
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Update: I am a moron.

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dumb bird brain strikes again

jagged marsh
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Also, if you had gone to the town you probably would have seen the rest of SVE installed

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I didn't realize you were missing just the farm, or I would have looked at that specifically

leaden orchid
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No, before I forcefully installed SVE in the mods folder itself I was also missing SVE. It kept telling me that there was no manifest or that the folders were empty when I tried to load it via stardrop

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though I'm relieved the IF2R is a separate issue phew

jagged marsh
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That may be Stardrop being weird about how the zip file is packed, which is weird because it's usually pretty good

leaden orchid
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Yeeaahh

turbid pebble
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Hey guys! I've been playing with a custom modpack and it's been going great, up into year 3 at this point. In the past couple in-game days, however, all of my quality ingredients (maple syrup for bee houses, eggs for cooking, etc) aren't registering correctly in any crafting menus. Can't cook, can't craft using anything that has a quality star on it, including eggs.

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(Sorry if I'm intruding)

leaden orchid
leaden orchid
turbid pebble
leaden orchid
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!log

native dragonBOT
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Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 30 C# mods and 25 content packs.

calm lake
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what does this mean 😓

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im not the first one to have this issue i guess i see other people had it

spark pivot
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!log

native dragonBOT
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Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

  1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
  2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
  3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

calm lake
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sorry theres my log

native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on macOS Unix 14.5.0, with 9 C# mods and 0 content packs.

spark pivot
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jokes this warning doesn't appear in log viewer kasumidetect

pallid summit
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as far as i know, that warning is normal/safe to ignore and it's just part of playing on macOS right now

leaden orchid
calm lake
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but some of my mods dont work

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i mean ive never used the mod before so idk how its supposed to work honestly

turbid pebble
calm lake
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because i have lookup anything but theres no indication of it even being on my game right now

leaden orchid
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I wonder if you're missing a dependency mod somewhere? /genq

spark pivot
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did you try to press F1 with mouse over something?

pallid summit
calm lake
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does anyone know what it looks like when the mods on

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because 😭

calm lake
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oh i see why i dont see it anywhere

turbid pebble
calm lake
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its because its tied to f1 and i have a macbook with a touchscreen where the f1 and other keys are supposed to be. LMAO i am just dumb

leaden orchid
calm lake
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is there anyway i can change that?

leaden orchid
leaden orchid
calm lake
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okay i got it! thanks lol

leaden orchid
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yeah, there's a config you can use to change the key to bring up the mod!

leaden orchid
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you'll also wanna change the search since it's also set to shift + F1

turbid pebble
leaden orchid
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That's weird,,

worthy moth
leaden orchid
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I wonder if something got shuffled around then,,

calm lake
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its honestly really freaking stupid and redundant and annoying

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classic apple moment but yknow

worthy moth
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Ah, that thing okay I thought you mean the whole screen

calm lake
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nooo 😭

worthy moth
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Also, if you want to avoid having to bind and memorize a bunch of hotkeys, I created the Toolbar Icons mod to give a visual way of accessing other mods like Lookup Anything

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I personally am terrible at working with hotkeys, I can never remember what goes to what

leaden orchid
pallid summit
leaden orchid
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me and apple have honest to god beef over their "innovative" designs

turbid pebble
pallid summit
leaden orchid
worthy moth
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(Any mod following the recommended conventions for IDs should have virtually no chance of assigning conflicting IDs)

leaden orchid
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..Actually I do have a question. Is anyone else having mod issues where it comes to mixed seeds? I can't plant them but for some reason the game keeps trying to make me eat them >x< I thought it was an issue with item extensions but I turned it off and now it won't even give me a "this crop cannot be found" type of error

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I don't have a log for it rn though

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I can try to recreate it later after I finish eating tho

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The one thing is, they're all cornucopia related crops, so maybe there's a bit of a bug there?

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it was licorice, corn, and a grape, I think

south agate
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Hii, Im not sure if this is the right channel to ask this in, so I apologize if it's not- But anyways, ive been trying to mod stardew for awhile but everything I download does nothing?? I have Smapi, but I still dont know what to do lol :(
Ive watched a bunch of videos, but I still don't understandAMSadCat

leaden orchid
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Walk us through the process you're doing? Maybe there's a mistake or something we can clarify!

south agate
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Thank you!

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I don't even know what i'm doing tbh

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I gave up a few months ago, so I have no idea where I left off

leaden orchid
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ahh, gotcha

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Well, the first thing is double-check that smapi is updated! Which mod loader are you using?

south agate
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ohh I just checked, I need to update it

leaden orchid
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I recommend Stardrop, as it handles things like mod load orders way better, plus it has a thing that allows you to locate unofficial updates way easier!

south agate
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okok thank you!

turbid pebble
leaden orchid
turbid pebble
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Ah... alright. I'll try some more testing, and update here, just in case I find something that can help others in the future.

leaden orchid
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good luck!

jagged marsh
sly elm
jagged marsh
sly elm
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ah yeah but I see other problems

leaden orchid
sly elm
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so you've still got SAAT, pytk dummy, tmxl toolkit and they need to go since you're playing on version 1.6 of the game

leaden orchid
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Yeeahh ik

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i haven't gotten around to clearing everything out

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Well I have a mod that requires the PYTK dummy though.. It hasn't dropped dependency yet

sly elm
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you also got really old versions of mods in there, how is your game even working at all 😂

leaden orchid
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duct tape and spit <3

sly elm
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oh dear

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ah well, if you can get by with a rustbucket I'm not judging (unless you're asking me to fix it)

leaden orchid
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It seems to be doing okay for now, actually. Just some really weird errors popping up (with... the new 1.6 mods, surprisingly, more than the old 1.5 mods that are still there)

sly elm
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well, yeah. the old frameworks cause problems with new mods too

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1.5 mods that don't work straight up won't work, usually

leaden orchid
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Some of them are just straight up content packs that still work with CP though

sly elm
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so not throwing errors other than "this ain't working". and content patcher mods CAN still work

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Yes

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smapi also can rewrite at least some old content patcher mods to the new format

leaden orchid
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Yee that's what it's done for some of them

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I think in this one specific error's case, it's because of a 1.6 mod issue, not a 1.5.

Because I'm reading that A LOT of people are struggling with this for 1.6 mods

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and it's the same error I've been having. (Albeit, with different crops)

sly elm
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I was trying to find item extensions in your log but it seems like that was a log with it taken out

leaden orchid
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Mmhm! I said previously I had taken it out

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The thing about it not returning is a separate issue, i think, but I wanna fix the issue with the item extensions mod and the mixed seeds because it's likely that it will fix this one issue (where it's not giving me any errors about the seeds) if I put it back in

sly elm
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which version of item extensions do you use

leaden orchid
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That's the other thing I'm struggling with. It says I'm downloading the 1.7.0 version, but it tells me I have 1.6.4 and from what I've been reading from the author's mod page, for some reason Nexus is listing it as 1.7.0 but is using 1.6.4 file's

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*files

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or at least that's what I gathered from their bug reporting page

sly elm
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hm maybe uploaded a wrong file. I'd try downgrading the mod and see if it helps. I remember version 1.4.3 didn't have that problem

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that was the one I recommended downgrading to to the people with that exact same problem

leaden orchid
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OH. I see. It's a conflict between WildFlour and Item Extensions

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Wait no that only explains their side of things but I don't have either of those on

sly elm
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it shouldn't be a conflict between those two, it's more that wildflour is using item extensions thonking

leaden orchid
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I'll downgrade to 1.4.3

sly elm
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so wildflour also has issues

south agate
leaden orchid
south agate
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Alright! Thank you again lolz!

leaden orchid
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I'll play around with Wildflour and my other crop mods. Thanks guys!

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and if i find the solution, I'll post here what worked for me and what mod was causing the issue

onyx fulcrum
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hey, odd question, do you know if i can use a content patcher mod and alternative textures? there's a few mods that i like that don't have an AT version, but i'd like to be able to use both so do you know if they'd interfere with one another if i used AT on top of the content patcher mod?

fringe sorrel
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I am having the most peculiar problem with my coop

sudden summit
onyx fulcrum
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oh, thank you!

restive cypress
native dragonBOT
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restive cypress
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Also is it a coop (the animal building) or co-op issue?

fringe sorrel
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good question

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it is a problem with the animal building the Coop

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my issue is that the automatic feeder is displaying hay bells off of the screen

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I know its got to do with a mod that added capacity

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but even when I turn them off it still does that

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I also have Jens mega coop and barn

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before I had it, the coop was just extra wide

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now it is not as wide and is upgraded to its biggest capacity for the mod

stoic oar
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Hi I need help getting modded portraits to work?

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wait one sec

hasty flume
fringe sorrel
native dragonBOT
hasty flume
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It's not technically a mod bug, it's just an unavoidable fact of how the game handles hay placement. If you bomb away the excess it won't show up again

fringe sorrel
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I was thinking about selling the animals and knicking down the coop. Then rebuilding it and such'

hasty flume
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I feel like placing a bomb is the easier route, but you do you

fringe sorrel
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so just use no clip go off screen and bomb it

hasty flume
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Bombs need to be placed in a valid location, but the mega bombs should be able to reach into the void

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It worked for me

fringe sorrel
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but thrn wouldnt it destroy the hay that is supposed to be there

hasty flume
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Yeah, but that's a sacrifice you may have to make

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You have the item spawner, so you can always just spawn in more hay to replace what you lose

fringe sorrel
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this is the big auto feeder I'm talkng about

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I think it worked

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ha

stark horizon
# thick prawn this still doesnt make sense to me

It's unfortunate that we don't know which mod exactly references WTDR. There are text editor programs (like Sublime Text, which is free) that have built-in functionality to conduct a search inside multiple files. So for example, one could target the entire Mods folder and ask the program to find any instances of "Custom_WTDR_Town" and then replace it with the correct text.

gusty sphinx
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Hiyaaa could anyone tell me whats happening here? I've redownloaded the files for EPU and SpaceCore a few times and I've gotten the same error SDVpufferthink

neat plaza
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1.17.2 is the one on the page for 1.5.6

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1.23.1 is the 1.6 version on the page

gusty sphinx
neat plaza
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did you dleete the 1.19.1 version

gusty sphinx
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I think I did but I'll try again quickly because maybe I forgot before?

stark horizon
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EPU has another file under the "optional files" that works for 1.6 - use that one 🙂

gusty sphinx
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Aha!!! its all working now. Thanks ❤️

native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 40 C# mods and 128 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

fringe sorrel
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I'm so pleased I got that hay thing fixed. its funny how much it annoyed me

restive cypress
# calm urchin Hi, I have been trying to get Stardew ready for my wife and I to play again, and...
  1. Update these mods (image attached)
  2. Delete TMXL Map Toolkit, SAAT, PYTK, Custom Furniture, catGifts, Custom NPC Fixes, and Custom Kissing Mod cause they're all deprecated with 1.6
  3. Do a fresh install of SVE.
  4. Validate your game files
  5. Make sure you have the latest version for the json mods cause there may be a content patcher version available
  6. When updating your mods be sure to delete the old version before placing the new version into your mods folder.
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!reset this is how you verify your game files

native dragonBOT
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Please reset your game files. This will fix any broken game files, but won't affect your save files or mods.

If you use XNB mods, see using XNB mods for more info about why they're deprecated, and a list of Content Patcher alternatives.

restive cypress
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There's probably some stuff I missed but I'm on mobile so SDVpufferclueless

calm urchin
sage wave
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Was running perfectly fine earlier today but now it starts up and stops:

jagged marsh
sage wave
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I magically worked now

jagged marsh
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Was it closing or just freezing? If freezing, you probably got into select mode and escape should take you out of it, if it happens again

native dragonBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 34 C# mods and 125 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

jagged marsh
calm urchin
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I updated all my mods, it still says that for those ones even though I updated those. T.T Audio is playing dispite that error. I did mess around with some files in expanded for gender bending characters, but only the portraits and overworld sprites. I have another mod for handling the dialogue for that purpose.

jagged marsh
# calm urchin I updated all my mods, it still says that for those ones even though I updated t...

Stardew Valley Expanded can't find the files for Victor or Morris. Your best bet will be to either redownload Stardew Valley Expanded, or undo changes if you moved files around.

Witchy Gothic Interiors is fighting for control over the maps and generating errors (And doing nothing as a result) - Let's try moving them out of the mod folder for now and trying to fix the rest of it.

For your list of mods, several of them are no longer compatible. There may be newer versions, or they've never been updated to support 1.6. Anything uploaded before March 2024 has a higher chance of not being compatible. If you try to update a mod that never made it to 1.6, the new version will still be out of date.

calm urchin
spiral lily
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How do you find the mod? I want to add a fishing one but can’t figure
out where it needs to go

native dragonBOT
spiral lily
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TY! Now how do I get the mod to work? 😅 it looks okay to me but I haven’t dealt with stardew a lot and my other modded game is practically automatic

hasty flume
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you have to click the link, read the guide, and follow the steps

spiral lily
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I did, it looks fine but won’t work

jagged marsh
# spiral lily

In what regard is it not working? It includes a config that lets you make it run under specific conditions.

hasty flume
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also please send screenshots if you can, phone pictures of your screen are very hard to read

spiral lily
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My screenshot system is broken, I spilled a soda on my laptop 😅

jagged marsh
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https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5098 is also pretty much a universal must-have mod because it allows for mods to change config files from text only to having an actual menu in game (And I'm only suggesting it because seeing the config might make it more obvious if there's an issue)

spiral lily
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I dont know how it’s broken, I downloaded it and it doesn’t function… I’m trying to use the full fishing bar mod off curse forge (I know it’s problematic but I can’t handle manually managing dozens of mods)

jagged marsh
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One moment, going to download it myself

hasty flume
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the problem may be that its from curseforge tbh

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curseforge mods are often out of date