making-mods-general

[whole prism]

I can only tell you on a personal level, that you may be fine, but it's your responsibility to not profit, and use original artwork by said company

If you follow that, the threat level is lowered a lot, but it's still not zero, it never will be

[torpid sparrow]

it's the risk you're taking

[whole prism]

Yup

[torpid sparrow]

i have 2 media mods that i get DP from

if i get screwed over it's my own fault and no one else's

[modest dagger]

reporting u to lionsgate studios rn

[torpid sparrow]

sadness

[verbal glacier]

same

[strong kite]

I mean yeah again this is exactly why when I first uploaded the mod 2 years ago I disabled donation points and whatnot

on the very off chance Nintendo might not only see but also choose to do something about it

Nexus I can deal with, Nintendo I cant

[whole prism]

It's a messy process, i always tell people to never try it out. I had to contact my lawyer to take down 3 userstyles that violated the GNU AGPL v3.0 license that my code was under, since they re-licensed their code and went propietary.

It's always best to never use a company, or licensed work

Unless you respect said license

anyways enough yapping bout that

[strong kite]

I cant even remember what exactly I was doing for my mod now. I know I was converting to mail flags but I cant think of where else I need to do that

[whole prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/156109690059751424/1486519757778980984/image0.gif

Quick bump for anyone whos knowledgable in this

mainly just a styling question

[torpid sparrow]

my answer is just whatever you want

whatever makes it easiest for u

[severe cairn]

As someone with long ass .jsons I do not enjoy looking through them 😭

me when im trying to find something specific but theres a bajillion lines and i have no one to blame but myself:

[torpid sparrow]

ctrl f best friend

[severe cairn]

real but theyre so overwhelming to look at too 😂

I actually separated my files into multiple ones recently, my god I FEEL better looking at them 😂 so its whatever you prefer fr fr

(even then the 10 heart event file too long still. Why are you 65k characters total.)

[fierce vault]

I’ve definitely needed to do that too with my content json

[torpid sparrow]

i used to keep my character manifest in the content json but i moved that out too

mostly just tokens and includes now

which i think is typical when a mod gets more moving parts

i mean not just npcs

[uncut viper]

The content modders yearn for the partial class /j

[torpid sparrow]

but yeah

whats a partial class

[uncut viper]

Don't worry about it 😌 (C# stuff)

[fierce vault]

I might do that too lol

[severe cairn]

real my content.json was humongus before, but now its so satisfying...

[torpid sparrow]

one day im going to have to deal with C#

today is not that day

[severe cairn]

I know C#... issue is i need to start up my brain like an old engine. Like its so bad every time i open unity i think to myself... how do i make object connect with code and do things again. Knowledge out the window

[whole prism]

i can have one big one, under 1k lines, or 29 seperate files, with 60% of them containing only 1 quest each

[severe cairn]

hmmm
Maybe group them according to different mod or some other category?

[whole prism]

its all the same mod

its not my compat

[strong kite]

Hm.. I started a new character and the map patch is still in effect..

[whole prism]

my mod adds over 50 new quests to the base game

with many characters affected

[severe cairn]

like vanilla characters, xyz mod characters, and stuff

mm

[whole prism]

half look like this

since its just 1 quest for some

[uncut viper]

That's not how you format a When condition and you cannot use GSQs in When conditions anyway

[marsh reef]

garden snail :)

[uncut viper]

(Unless you use Esca's Modding Plugins as a dependency, which adds a token that evaluates a GSQ)

[void aspen]

Omg I just came up with a greatest idea

[strong kite]

ah shoot. how do I do it then? I had a feeling the formatting was wrong but I couldn't find info on how to actually do this

[severe cairn]

Yaya I meant like instead of one big one for everyone or one small one for individuals you could group them in like vanilla characters in one, SVE characters in one, etc. So its not just 29 tiny files?

[whole prism]

a mod aobut snails

[void aspen]

Swim to Ginger Island without a boat

[whole prism]

How would that work?

What I did was group all vanilla NPcs into one large file

[void aspen]

You have to spend 5 irl hours to cross the ocean to get there

[whole prism]

Compat (dif mods ) isnt in those code, its seperate

[strong kite]

Wait wait I think I found the docs

[marsh reef]

really really easy to do 🙂‍↕️ 🙂‍↕️

[severe cairn]

Ohh right sory sory

mann I shouldnt be doing things at 2 am

[long jungle]

To be fair, When conditions where never clear to me too.

Even the content patcher guide isn't giving any examples on how to do it.

[uncut viper]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#conditions

[void aspen]

Maybe something like this as well

[uncut viper]

The docs do give several examples

[verbal glacier]

do you also lose stamina?

[strong kite]

sorry Button I shoulda replied with this, I'm already there 😭

[void aspen]

Not sure how to do that with cp

[uncut viper]

(And by several I mean, according to a Ctrl F, 27 examples)

[marsh reef]

😭 you gotta down like 40 salads

[strong kite]

Aw hell yeah sign me up

[marsh reef]

wait 🤣 😭 wrong reply

[strong kite]

[marsh reef]

meant to reply to this one

[void aspen]

So many ppl w rainbow roles

Oh it's Monday already

[strong kite]

I find it hilarious I was talking so much because I've been troubleshooting this dang mod

[long jungle]

Oh sorry. The docs does give several basic examples of using "When": but I had to learn about it slowly when using it on different applications that aren't explicit on the docs

[marsh reef]

oh shoot new campaign on trackmania

[void aspen]

I don't talk that much but still got the 100lvl somehow

Took me some years

[marsh reef]

bro dangit it's in 2 days

[void aspen]

But modding generally boosted my message amount so that's something

[strong kite]

Ayyy this looks promising

[marsh reef]

ayeee

[whole prism]

Does anyone know where you can get automatic roles like your glowing one?

[torpid sparrow]

When is a Content Patcher thing

Condition is a GSQ thing

Condition:

[marsh reef]

🤔 i think ur mod creator role overwrites the color :333

[autumn tide]

nope! only juni role overrides

[torpid sparrow]

TntDove has the Ol Slitherlegs role, which is yapper of the week

[whole prism]

CLAUDE, THE APOSTLE OF WUMBUS

[autumn tide]

hello :)

[whole prism]

oh- LOL

[torpid sparrow]

if you are a mod author legend, you get a shiny one too

Forsy has one

[whole prism]

how is that obtained?

insane yapping or lot of downloads

[verbal glacier]

yap more

[torpid sparrow]

reach lvl 1000

[autumn tide]

#roles message

[torpid sparrow]

as a mod author

regular lvl 1000 also has a shiny plate

[autumn tide]

2000*

[torpid sparrow]

oh sadness

2000 :(

[strong kite]

Right, I never got the event to properly change the Tiles

[void aspen]

Are lvl exp required scales up each time

[marsh reef]

🤣

[void aspen]

Or is it static

[autumn tide]

idk how to feel about the fact that I'm now level 480 on here-

static afaik

[void aspen]

Oh then I'm only 95% away

[verbal glacier]

-# checks level, oh that'll be a while huh

[marsh reef]

how do you know your level?

[autumn tide]

like on the one hand yay I'm part of the community but on the other hand wow I joined like 6 months ago I truely do not have a life

[void aspen]

Governor mansion

/lvl

[autumn tide]

use lvl over in #governors-mansion

dammit sasha beat me to it

[strong kite]

Ayyyyy it changed when I came back the next day though!
Okay so what I need to do is get the tiles to change correctly in the event and then have the wizard say something about asking you to let him make sure it's safe before the player enters, explaining why the player can't enter it immediately after the cutscene!

[verbal glacier]

rip

[marsh reef]

oh yea i'll be there in no time 🧍‍♂️

[void aspen]

Mi fast fingers

[autumn tide]

me too but mine mess up

[void aspen]

But you did a link so that's a bonus point

[torpid sparrow]

can u do a faster map change with something like onlocationchange?

as a traction?

like doesnt RSV have the haunted greenhouse change within the same day

depending on time

im not sure if thats C# or CP

(i also dont know if thats how its done im just thinking)

[autumn tide]

what do you want to do?

[uncut viper]

You can make a patch update on LocationChange.

(I don't know how RSV does it but C# can make things update whenever it wants.)

[torpid sparrow]

hmm ill need that for later

[autumn tide]

C# scares me.. the power.. I would be driven mad

[uncut viper]

As always, while LocationChange patches arent as bad as TimeChange patches, its better to just stick to DayStarted if you can.

[ornate locust]

after a detour into fixing one bridge, ALL BRIDGES I CAN GET TO WORK. now time for the flower festival testing

[torpid sparrow]

does it mess with scheduling or something similar?

or pathing

[brittle pasture]

(RSV does time change)

[modest dagger]

if i knew how the immediate thing i'd do is making a cooking minigame like cooking mama just bc i could

[autumn tide]

omg cooking mama

[torpid sparrow]

i havent tried the AOC one yet

[strong kite]

Alright, how do I get these from my event to pull from a custom tilesheet for the TileIndex?
changeMapTile Buildings 5 2 2/changeMapTile Buildings 6 2 3/changeMapTile Buildings 5 3 34/changeMapTile Buildings 6 3 35/changeMapTile Buildings 5 4 66/changeMapTile Buildings 6 4 67

[torpid sparrow]

hmm ill go look at the modpage

[uncut viper]

That'd be a lot of work even if you do know C#

[torpid sparrow]

nvm no images

how does the aoc minigame work?

[modest dagger]

good thing i don't know C# so i can't even consider it button!

[torpid sparrow]

oh wait video

nvm

[uncut viper]

The thought of making a Cooking Mama style minigame scares me....

[modest dagger]

imagine having to play junimocart just to cook urself some bread

u fail the level u burn the food

[autumn tide]

three cheers for not knowing anything so at least you can't scope creep yourself!

[void aspen]

I wanna learn c just to make fear and hunger in sdv

[uncut viper]

I love Junimo Kart, I would love to

[autumn tide]

I would cry

[uncut viper]

Well you should probably learn C# instead /lh

[ornate locust]

rejoice

[torpid sparrow]

ive tried junimo kart once

it went poorly

[modest dagger]

everything turns into junimo kart

[autumn tide]

oooh pretty!

[torpid sparrow]

id walk over that bridge

[modest dagger]

want to chop a tree? kart, fish? kart, talk to your spouse? guess what, kart.

[void aspen]

Button btw can I ask you something

[ornate locust]

well something's weird with the second one but it's like Pixels of weird, let's see if I can iron that out

[strong kite]

Is it actually possible to have the event draw tiles from a custom tilesheet?

[void aspen]

I see no reason why not

As long as you load it properly

[uncut viper]

I would say it depends on the question. If it's moderation related it would be better to message Bouncer.

[modest dagger]

i'll get into event making at some point and commit so many atrocities you'll remember that i'm canadian

[void aspen]

Oh right yeah

[autumn tide]

code crimes, drama, or errors-

[verbal glacier]

all of the above

[strong kite]

How do I get it to load the tilesheet? Nothing about this mentions it I dont think

Or maybe not load but reference the tilesheet

cuz I think the tilesheet is already loaded?

or maybe it isnt... idk, I just dont know how to make that event command use the custom sheet

[empty owl]

uhhh yeah its to hard i cant-, just cus idk how to do animations, all the frame things are hard

[torpid sparrow]

the art part or the code part?

[torpid sparrow]

afaik changeMapTile can only be used with the existing tilesheet for the tile you're trying to change

[empty owl]

code

[strong kite]

Well shoot.. is there an alternative?

[torpid sparrow]

i just made a new location LOL

new map

with my tilesheet and whatever i needed

[torpid sparrow]

that's not too bad, if you need help after the art is done feel free to ask

[strong kite]

I- I mean yes I've done that, but I'm trying to have the transition be done during this event

[torpid sparrow]

its mostly a matter of timing

[strong kite]

So I need to make the tiles appear during the event

[whole prism]

so close to 1k...

:0

[torpid sparrow]

what are u changing from and to

[whole prism]

ima send another content update to it since ppl are giving that many downloads

might as well feed them more

[verbal glacier]

-# lemme download just before i forget again

[whole prism]

until i burn out lmao

[whole prism]

id hold off!

im gonna release an update soon

: )

as of today

[verbal glacier]

more downloads tho

[whole prism]

i mean u can do idm just saying

some ppl dont like re-downloading

[verbal glacier]

eh

[torpid sparrow]

i love to bombard people with 10 million updates

[empty owl]

uhhh i got a problem with the art too, the horse has eating and idle animations i think, and i was going to use this cute bewear sprite i found on the internet :v

[torpid sparrow]

is it free use?

open source

[whole prism]

I follow ur updates, I see it all the time

[whole prism]

its a nintendo character

[empty owl]

think so? i aint going to post the mod anyways, is for personal use

[whole prism]

ah, then ur fine, mostly

[urban patrol]

this is why i mentioned yesterday that you have to also patch the map unconditionally and paint invisible tiles from your custom tilesheet onto the map in order to use changeMapTile :)

[torpid sparrow]

i give u 20 notifications every day

[urban patrol]

you did step 3, now do steps 1 and 2!

[strong kite]

honestly I was so overwhelmed yesterday 😭

[urban patrol]

no worries, that's why i linked it again!

i figured you would have more context today for what i was talking about then

[torpid sparrow]

invisible building tiles bane of my existence

[modest dagger]

i give u 1 every 8 months maybe

[whole prism]

well, evelyn expanasion has gotten updates every day1

im sure they get bombarded :3

ive been wanting to make this

one sec

[whole prism]

It reminds George of his late daughter

the prismatic shard

[strong kite]

Wait so do I make a THIRD layer? cuz the tiles I want are on Buildings2 (and Front4)

[whole prism]

she used to play around with it on the windowsill

[void aspen]

Ideally less layers the better but nothing really stops you from adding more

[verbal glacier]

rip clara :(

[void aspen]

Not sure if adding Draw property is required but that's force of the habit

[urban patrol]

nope! i would:

• make a copy of your map (not the original, the edited one)
• rename it to be something like MyMap_Invisible or something that makes it clear what it does
• for every tile you added, instead replace that tile with an invisible tile on your tilesheet
• make a copy of your map patch but make it unconditional (or conditional on HasSeenEvent being false, whatever the opposite of your other patch is)

in fact you CANNOT make new layers for this, because this is how the game knows what tilesheet to pull from

[strong kite]

That works out cuz I already have 2 copies of this map

[whole prism]

  "LucyTheDove.EvelynExpansion_GeorgePrismaticShardQuestLetter": "When Alex's mother, Clara, was younger, she used to sit by the window for hours looking for rainbows after the spring rain.^^The winter days are dark without her. Bring me a Prismatic Shard. Please... Please.^^- George^^%item quest LucyTheDove.EvelynExpansion_GeorgePrismaticShardQuest%%[#]Letter from George",

  "LucyTheDove.EvelynExpansion_GeorgePrismaticShardQuest": "ItemDelivery/Rainbow Rays/George wants a Prismatic Shard to catch the light on the windowsill, in memory of his late daughter./Bring George 1 Prismatic Shard./George (O)74 1/-1/1000/-1/true/It's... it's perfect. The colors... hmph.#$b#...#$b#Thank you.#$b#...#$b#...#$b#...I miss her.#$b#...#$b#...#$b#I need time... alone.$h"

: (

[void aspen]

Pretty green code

What code is this

[verbal glacier]

slight correction it is Clara not claire

[whole prism]

WHAT

I WROTE CLAIRE?

THANK YOU

IDK WHY I WROTE CLAIRE?

[verbal glacier]

no worries

[void aspen]

Oh python

[whole prism]

fixed

[void aspen]

Tbh creature moment

[whole prism]

yes i am a creature

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/156109690059751424/1486519757778980984/image0.gif

[void aspen]

Bet he tastes like car tires and ice cream

[whole prism]

I... think you're right

[brave fable]

the difficulty of making cooking mama does not come from the code. it comes from drawing an infinite number of high-res ingredients in different shapes

[hard fern]

just find a stock image of a carrot and ur good

[whole prism]

Carrot, rotate, save
rotate, save
rotate, save
rotate, save
rotate, save

thats the most effort i'll put into it

[empty owl]

Yeah nope im to lazy and tired to do this 😭

[void aspen]

Rotate

[verbal glacier]

Rotate

[whole prism]

Rotate

[patent lance]

Rotate

[strong kite]

Oh right I need to make sure they're replacing the right layer in the event, yeah?

[urban patrol]

yep

[strong kite]

Im assuming that's based on the layer's ID in the tmx file?

[urban patrol]

yep, just Buildings2 or whatever

[strong kite]

Oh that too yea

[empty owl]

??????????

[modest dagger]

don't judge maru's robot it's trying

[strong kite]

Im worried I'm using so many speed buffs for testing that I'm gonna find the regular movement speed once I actually play the game again way too sluggish 😭

[torpid sparrow]

i just use fast forward

[verbal glacier]

she's part of the gang

[torpid sparrow]

changes speed for everything

[void aspen]

I just give myself my custom item that have a +5 speed

[meager ginkgo]

I just play with +2 speed always

[strong kite]

Ahhhh almost! I just need to change up the layers and targeting said layers correctly!

[torpid sparrow]

i always play at speed 3

[brave fable]

i prefer to just use /warp to go places. stops you getting a sugar high from speed buffs

[void aspen]

debug warp

boom

[torpid sparrow]

i feel like i still have to do the work and walk there

[void aspen]

my favourite thing

[brave fable]

chat commands uses fewer keystrokes haha

[verbal glacier]

warps and speed buffs :D

[brave fable]

i'll use the smapi console whenever it gets autocomplete

[void aspen]

I got used to console debug

[spiral garnet]

i just found out you can just make an AT mod for this

[void aspen]

A bit sad making animated furniture isn't pure cp friendly

Just having some tmx with animated tiles and a TileData for some activities would be cool

[strong kite]

omg not me noticing that I misspelled Dialogue in my files 😭

[verbal glacier]

dialgue

[void aspen]

Ctrl h

Wait idk if that works in vcs

[strong kite]

Yeah I'll probably just find and replace fix it

I'll also need to do a little more to hide the tiles changing in the event but it works!

[rich seal]

I told myself this morning that I'd just be fixing some sprites and testing a few things. Just a nice, casual task, nothing too strenuous this time.
... It's now over twelve hours later and I've restructured my mod for the fourth time, added new stuff thanks to intrusive thoughts, thoroughly tested everything, and I'm STILL paranoid that something's gonna break. I need an editor to smack me and tell me to stop this lol

[urban patrol]

what i usually do is have those be the very first commands in the event so that by the time it fades in it's already done

[urban patrol]

that's such a modding mood

[strong kite]

Well it happens mid event, though

[urban patrol]

ah i see

[strong kite]

My brothers and I need to do the Deep Rock Galactic easter event so I'ma have to take a break for that but I'll be coming back to this

[empty owl]

uhhh im missing two

[void aspen]

I told myself no more mods for the rest of the month and then did two mods in a row the same evening

I'm gonna cry

[brave fable]

something always breaks, very basic rule

[strong kite]

Admittedly after the convo earlier I cant stop worrying about my mod getting taken down after I update it

[brave fable]

there's a number of long-time mods with ripped art on the nexus that haven't been taken down by nexus or by the copyright holder, including nintendo + the pokemon company, but of course ideally you'd be making your own art

thinking about that fashion sense mod that rips every single pokemon from a whole mystery dungeon game

[empty owl]

lol

[brave fable]

i'm sure most users would prefer something hand-drawn than ripped, so a redraw would be a selling point as well

[strong kite]

Funnily enough I'm an example of that cuz I ripped the berry bush sprites from pokemon 2 years ago and it's been up this whole time.
I would love to make my own art but like I am so much worse at art.
I edit the sprites where I can but otherwise at the end of the day this is moreorless a personal mod that I decided to upload

[brave fable]

well my clothing mod started out as a sprite rip, then bad art, then decent art, and now good art

there's no sense giving up before you've started

[strong kite]

If it gets yeeted off of Nexus then oh well, but I'll try not to be too upset about it. I just dont even know what I'd do to change some of these assets, and the giant crops terrify me to make from complete scratch

I wont cross off the idea to do in the future, but given my current circumstances I don't think that's something I'm gonna try for this update

Cuz admittedly the main reason I've been working on this mod? I needed something to distract me while I wait for the new Tomodachi Life game to come out

So I'm kinda hoping to finish by the 16th

[void aspen]

Making mods make me happy but I kinda got tired of them

[toxic topaz]

tired of making them?

[patent lance]

@wanton pebble: this (7h ago)

[toxic topaz]

what makes me tired is doing art i hate art

[brave fable]

i find character sprites are exhausting. i'll spend a day drawing a tree though

[strong kite]

Same here.. tbh if I wasn't using assets from another game like pokemon, I don't think I'd be making mods at all. Which would be a shame cuz I am having fun on the coding side of things.
I like doing art, but I'm still really bad at doing it from scratch

[void aspen]

Yeah

[rich seal]

I'm the opposite; I like to make sprites, but coding makes my head spin, even if it's just copypasting the same code 99 times with tiny variations lol

[void aspen]

Usually I do mods not for the goal but rather for the process

[modest dagger]

i make mods cos i like playing god

[void aspen]

I just do something in aseprite or mess with json while listening to music

[toxic topaz]

id take coding one million times over drawing i dont have the brain for it

[void aspen]

I don't draw that much either

I just love keeping myself busy

I did 10 mods so far, uploaded 8 of them

And already got 2.3 udls

[strong kite]

I've done a lot of work for Pokemon Infinite fusions but over there I work with bases from both the main game and various other artists in the server (which is strongly encouraged), so even though I have a lot that I've done I'm still not actually great at drawing pixel art from scratch. I do enjoy it though, if I dont have to work completely from scratch at least

[void aspen]

That's nice for a month, but I'm not sure I will do anything for some time

[empty owl]

jus edited it a bit, i cant do the eat face tho, bewear is too big for it

[rich seal]

I'm stressing myself out too much. I should just update my mod already and stop making changes.

[verbal glacier]

maybe a little open and close mouth or something?

[void aspen]

I just hope all these things will help with do something cool in godot

[rich seal]

I'd suggest changing the rear leg on the second row. The placement is... a little iffy lol

[void aspen]

I want to make something special and autonomous

[empty owl]

what leg-

[rich seal]

I kind of don't want to circle it because it'd just look vulgar. On the third, fifth, and last frames, the left leg( in the back) is the one I mean.

Bewear's face looks to be at a side view with no top-down perspective, and the leg being raised that high can probably be seen in a way you likely didn't intend. I had the same issue with something else.

[marsh reef]

:( my ftm json claims it's wronk

[empty owl]

these?

[rich seal]

No, these three.The two pixels sticking out give it a silhouette that can be mistaken for something else. I'd suggest bringing out the two pixels above to make its leg more pillar-like, since Bewear's got big ol' stuffed animal legs

I literally did something like that earlier with a different game's mod, and I got yelled at for it. The protruding pixels are meant to be its toes, I assume?

[empty owl]

think so

you mean these two pixels?

[rich seal]

I actually forgot what Bewear even looked like until I just loaded up Bulbapedia. I swear it had toes, but there's nothing there.

Yeah those

[empty owl]

now that i see it

u are right

bewear feets are literally pillars

[rich seal]

Yeah lol. Rounded pillars too. The "toes" are just markings.

[rich seal]

I'm drawing a blank on how I'd suggest to adjust it, but at least I was able to point out the detail there lol. Give best bear some thick pillars and it'd be perfect

[verbal glacier]

y'all gentle reminder this convo is more suited for #making-mods-art

[empty owl]

oh yeah sorry 😅

[rich seal]

My bad

[verbal glacier]

no worries

[strong kite]

Im really hoping that dialogue and bundles will be a lot simpler than all this other stuff Ive been doing lol

[verbal glacier]

just a warning bundles are created at the beginning of a save so be mindful of that, it won't change with sleeping

[strong kite]

oh dang good to know

[verbal glacier]

or they might change but that might crash the game (kind forgot what actually goes wrong, just be careful)

[strong kite]

Well I'm gonna be creating new bundles not replacing them

[verbal glacier]

wouldn't surprise me if this would also apply to new bundles

[strong kite]

Good to know

tbh originally I was gonna find some things from PMD for the artwork but.. after these last conversations.. I'll find a solution. surely.

[verbal glacier]

Try not to let these conversation get to you too much, it is true that it might be unsafe but it's also true that loads of fan content with official resources are still up

[strong kite]

That's true. But my ADHD ain't gonna let me forget about this

I'm mainly worried about it getting taken down from Nexus which feels a lot more likely

[verbal glacier]

Honestly that's something you should ask yourself, do you want to risk it or do you want to keep this mod to yourself and stay on the safe side, there are other mods on nexus with sprites from the games so it's unclear what they might do

[strong kite]

I mean the thing is more the mod is ALREADY on nexus, I'm just updating it because I left it kinda unfinished

And I just so happen to be adding a ton of new content

Way more than I originally intended

Though previously the only completely unmodified ripped assets were the crop sprites, everything else ripped was at least modified by me in some way (or at least most of everything else)

[verbal glacier]

i feel you are also blending it with your own stuff so just do what you feel is right

[toxic topaz]

bundles are a breeeeeeze bro dont worry about that

check this out

entire bundle code

[strong kite]

Ye that's what I was hoping. Once I've got the base code figured out it's just a bunch of putting in ID's I'd imagine

debating how I want to go about implementing the bundles though. Like if I want them to all be available at once or have them unlock as you complete them, or if I want them to first unlock after dialogue with Darkrai, which means I'd have to figure out how to make Darkrai interactable

[toxic topaz]

you should do one at a time, giving a player too much at once is a good way to overwhelm them

or 1-2 at a time, just not all at once imo

[strong kite]

Very true. I'd like to do something kinda like what the Community Center does

[toxic topaz]

like the normal commmunity center

exactly lol

[strong kite]

Just not sure how I want the first one to be revealed..

[toxic topaz]

well technically my mod is a character mod, so i just gated it behind getting a certain number of hearts with her, idk what kind of mod you're making though

[strong kite]

Well my mod's just focused around adding pokemon berries as crops and I very much succumbed to scope creep

A bunch of things I already made and that I wanted to do kinda just fell into place and that's how I got here

Though Darkrai is meant to be a giftable NPC

[long jungle]

Scope creep is real

My mod too lol

[strong kite]

Oh 100%. This mod was just supposed to add crops and recipes and now I've added an NPC, Map, event.. sooo much more that I'm glad I did cuz I found I really like scripting events!

[toxic topaz]

i wish i liked all that too i prefer the coding and adding cool stuff with it

[long jungle]

I used to only do edit data/object for weapons as the original mod for Vanilla and SVE only

Now I also do edit shops, mail, descriptions, buffs, and eventually also events and maps

[torpid sparrow]

you decided to add an NPC after starting? whew

[toxic topaz]

because of it im started on a crazy desert expansion, but now that i have to do art im regretting it a bit

[strong kite]

Not only after starting, but after the mod has been out for 2 years

[toxic topaz]

i love to whine about not liking art too, maybe i should funnel this drive into actually trying to draw

[torpid sparrow]

peak

[strong kite]

Anyway, I'm assuming this code also handles like.. placing the tile you access the bundle from?

[toxic topaz]

im using a mod to simplify it a ton, its called unlockable bundles

[toxic topaz]

yes

[strong kite]

Oh shoot would I need that as a dependency?

[toxic topaz]

https://gitlab.com/delixx/stardew-valley/unlockable-bundles/-/wikis/home

[toxic topaz]

yea it works with CP

[strong kite]

Ahhhh dang. I was kinda hoping to not need ANOTHER dependency. Maybe I'll put this off for now and save it for a companion mod?

Then again, I do really want to do this so

[verbal glacier]

how many dependencies do you have?

[strong kite]

I think technically 4 now. But two of those are SMAPI and Content Patcher

Then theres SpaceCore and BETAS

[verbal glacier]

that is fine

[toxic topaz]

wut, why does the number of dependencies matter

[verbal glacier]

it does not

[toxic topaz]

people will just take the 3 seconds it takes to download the other mod

[strong kite]

I just personally don't like the idea of making people download all sorts of other things to use this silly little mod

[toxic topaz]

trust me bro, they dont care that much lol

if they are actually interested in your mod, the number of mods it uses as dependencies are just another download step

[verbal glacier]

to me this reads as 1 dependency in BETAS just because half of all modded players have spacecore

[rich seal]

Spacecore is used in a lot of things, yeah

[strong kite]

True. Tbh BETAS seems really good but since I only just added it I haven't used it too much. I def gotta find more places where I can tho

[toxic topaz]

whats betas?

[verbal glacier]

Buttons extra trigger action stuff

[toxic topaz]

ah, yea i downloaded that but idk what it does so i kinda forgot about it

[empty owl]

so uhh...

[verbal glacier]

https://stardew.button.gay/docs/betas

[rich seal]

Big huggable bear who will break my ribs with a hug ❤️

[toxic topaz]

that seems cool

[verbal glacier]

it's a framework mod which allows for mod creators to do more stuff that vanilla does not

[empty owl]

i mean it works-

[rich seal]

If only you could offset the player sprite and put Bewear's sprite on top at all times

[empty owl]

i think i can with the custom mounts mod

[rich seal]

There's food for thought then! Just curious; why'd you choose Bewear of all the Pokemon? Not that there's any problem with that lovable giant.

[empty owl]

its my favorite xD

[rich seal]

Perfect reason

[empty owl]

carried me in pokemon reminiscence

[toxic topaz]

i remember beware being op as hell in that x and y anime

or maybe it was x y and z

[empty owl]

uhhh i think i got the stable texture wrong

[rich seal]

Oh no, now I want to add Pokemon to my mod that I've been procrastinating on uploading

[stoic chasm]

Does this look okay? Should I change the carpet (I think it's carpet, anyway) out for something else? (That big empty spot isn't going to stay empty, too. I'm just having trouble figuring out what I should put there-) (And yes, I'm aware my organisation of layers is horrible-)

[toxic topaz]

im jealous of your art skills

[torpid sparrow]

that pizza looks delicious

[torpid sparrow]

im not a big fan of carpet but thats personal preference

i always like wood floors

[strong kite]

ah.. forgetting commas.. my old enemy

[modest dagger]

whomst left their fuckin pants on the floor

[stoic chasm]

I'll tell you now, I did not draw all of that- I did the flags and kitchen tiles, but otherwise the other stuff is from other creators. I did try to draw everything, but got overwhelmed-

[stoic chasm]

Me. That would be me

I leave my clothes on the floor

[toxic topaz]

well still, it looks great

[modest dagger]

no shame in using other creators things, art is hard

i yoink from vanilla when i'm feeling lazy

like the first house i made started out as the joja mart 😭

[empty owl]

yeahh... i give up

[torpid sparrow]

that is a giant stable

[empty owl]

yeah idk what happend

😭

[modest dagger]

Neith's original home 🥰

[brave fable]

joja man't

[toxic topaz]

is there something somewhere that lists all the map/tile properties that can be assigned?

[brave fable]

[[Modding:Maps]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[toxic topaz]

ty

[empty owl]

its impossiblee to do a modded horse 😭 i think its hard coded in the game or smth

[strong kite]

What's the Tractor mod then..?

[empty owl]

magic

dark magic

[strong kite]

Ah fair enough

[empty owl]

it doesnt exist

[torpid sparrow]

well c# magic

[empty owl]

tbh didnt know it existed xD

[empty owl]

idk c# so im cooked

[strong kite]

I think it's been around for a while? At least 2 years

Also this is really cool that this is almost correct but- Something's.. not quite right here

[empty owl]

i could find someone to commision the mod tho i really want a bewear as a mount on my game 🙏

[empty owl]

ohhh you added a custom diemnsion for him

[strong kite]

Yup!

[empty owl]

wwhat happend with the gui xD

[strong kite]

That's what I'm asking 😭

[empty owl]

dont ask meeee idk bout modding tbh

just did things with content patcher and the wiki

[strong kite]

@toxic topaz Do you know why the icons are offset?

[empty owl]

are u going to add cresselia?

[toxic topaz]

ummm, ive never seen that lol, what does your code look like?

[strong kite]

Uhhhh probably not

[strong kite]

    "Changes": [
    {
        "Action": "EditData",
        "Target": "UnlockableBundles/Bundles",
        "Entries": {
            "{{ModId}}_BadDreamsIntroBundleBook": {
            "Location":"{{ModId}}_RiftDimension",
            "ShopPosition":"22, 10",
            "ShopType": "CCBundle",
            "IsBook": true,
            "BundleDescription": "Reward: Proof of your Worth",
            "ShopEvent": "None"
            },
            "{{ModId}}_BadDreamsIntroBundlePage1": {
                "BookId": "{{ModId}}_BadDreamsIntroBundleBook",
                "Location":"{{ModId}}_RiftDimension",
                "BundleName": "Basic Berries",
                "ShopPosition":"22, 10",
                "PagePackageIndex": 4,
                "PageLeafRustleColor": "rgb(0, 0, 0)",
                "BundleIconAsset": "{{InternalAssetKey: assets/bundleicons.png}}",
                "IconSpriteIndex": 1,
                "Price": {
                    "{{ModId}}_OranBerry": 25,
                    "{{ModId}}_LeppaBerry": 25,
                    "{{ModId}}_PechaBerry": 25,
                    "{{ModId}}_ChestoBerry": 25,
                    "{{ModId}}_AspearBerry": 25,
                    "{{ModId}}_CheriBerry": 25,
                },
                "BundleCompletedActions": [
                "AddMail Current {{ModId}}_BadDreamsWorthProven"
                    ]
                }
            }
        }
    ]
}```

Is it ShopPosition?

[toxic topaz]

shop position is just where the bundle tile is in your map

[strong kite]

Alright.. which is also something I should change

[brave fable]

surprising how good of an effect even a simple custom lightmap can have

[toxic topaz]

idk, maybe just a visual error?

[strong kite]

I mean yeah I can still pick up things fine but like.. idk why it's like this 😭

[ornate locust]

bridges tested

with all the cross-compat stuff

wheee

[strong kite]

Maybe I'll ask again tomorrow when more people are here

Is 11PM and I should probably get ready for bed

But I think I might just have a field day making bundles

[toxic topaz]

does anyone know if theres any way to change the water animation's color?

im trying to make a quicksand river, but doesnt seem that possible?

oh my god im stupid, why did i make a custom tile for the water border... i forgot they already exist in the desert 🤦‍♂️

[rich seal]

Finally, I'm free. I updated my mod and closed every modding resource I had open. No more, I want to actually play the game again lmao

I only planned a two or so day update, not a week-long endeavor. The pain.

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/docs/map-properties.md#mushymatommap_watercolor-color-colort-colort-colort

if u dont want water overlay at all (e.g. desert) then use "Water": "I"

[toxic topaz]

ooh i didnt know you could use mmap for that too, ill have to do that then

[void aspen]

I think you were told earlier that mmap can do that iirc

[toxic topaz]

i was, but for something different

[void aspen]

Maybe it was the other person

I forgot

[lucid iron]

it has a lot of random features

[toxic topaz]

all this art stuff is making me depressed feels like i barely got anything done today

[rich seal]

Everyone works at their own pace. Don't be discouraged!

[toxic topaz]

true, but its more that what im trying to do is something that im kinda incapable of doing at my level lol. and this one single thing is dragging the rest of me down

[rapid mesa]

Don't know if I should ask it here or somewhere else. But can someone help me with Sound Tweaker? I am trying to replace the fish sound with the MGS alert sound

[strong kite]

Actually so real.

[rich seal]

It's funny; I said that, but it's almost midnight for me. Can't really get started, especially since I'm TRYING to fix my sleep schedule lol

Surely the intrusive thoughts won't beckon me to add more to my mod tomorrow. Surely!

[torpid sparrow]

scope creep scope creep

[toxic topaz]

oh hey, thee pyramid doesnt look half bad now, its amazing what a few shadows can do

[torpid sparrow]

r the little green things cacti

wait is there cacti in the egyptian desert

[toxic topaz]

they want to be, really badly

[devout otter]

Shading is pixel art's magic sauce.

I always hate my pixel until I shade it.

[torpid sparrow]

yep

i hate my flats

they look ridiculous

[rich seal]

Fortunately (or unfortunately?), my scope is just adding things for fun. I don't have any set concepts or goals with my mod other than letting the intrusive thoughts do whatever they want until I'm begging them to stop! I want my week's worth of sleep back 🥲

[toxic topaz]

i just copy pasted the sand texture and i guess it looks a bit more presentable...

its main failpoint is the lack of depth

the bottom part is where the cliff is on my map, so i didnt feel the need to fill it in atm

but im not sure how id make all the stuff look like its far away

[wispy bramble]

Put dunes maybe?

[toxic topaz]

i would if i knew how

probably try to fumble around experimenting tomorrow

[brave fable]

dunes are like pyramids but the stones are much smaller

[toxic topaz]

In a perfect world I’d be friends someone who was a master at pixel art and I’d order a pizza to his house and all this would be done for me

[brave fable]

you'll find collabs are quite rare in this scene 🙂‍↕️ it pays to be a little practiced at everything

[toxic topaz]

I believe it. Well, I only started doing all this last week. I can only keep working at it

[hard fern]

you can order a pizza to my house (im hungry) (i can't make a sand dune)

[marsh reef]

FTM issue, inflated value to make sure i wasnt crazy, why isnt this working at all? :( it was capped at 10 :3

[marsh reef]

you need to either redo the lighting or get rid of the sun

bc.. :3

[toxic topaz]

Yes the sun isn’t being kept I don’t think

I just dk what to replace the horizon with

[marsh reef]

start on the big storm

figure out how much of the image you can not worry about

have it on a seperate layer for ease of use too

[marsh reef]

@toxic topaz the farm

[ornate locust]

Allllright I'm havin a weird problem

I have some bridges. For some reason, the back tile under these bridges is set to "Passable F", which I understand means you cannot pass it. So the bridge cannot be crossed even though I set the building tile that you walk across to passable. I tried to use MapTiles with Content Patcher to null out that property, but it's not working

give me a minute to get the jsons in the validator...

https://smapi.io/json/none/c90faef220a9474cb5be544b5c4eb443
SVE mountain maps 3 and 4

This passable quality is also not SET anywhere I can find

It's not part of the tile, it's not part of the map

[marsh reef]

mmmm i think all building blocks will always be impassible, put it on a seperate layer that's like, buildings-1 or smthn 🤔 assuming all other tiles around it arent evil blocks

[ornate locust]

I have the building tiles set as passable

It works fine in other patches

[marsh reef]

🤔 didnt know that

[ornate locust]

It's how vanilla bridges work apparently

[marsh reef]

ew :3

fair

[royal stump]

probably not relevant to the issue, but just for general reference, passable is one of the properties where the value doesn't matter beyond "not null"

T and F are the same, etc

[ornate locust]

yeah, that's why I'm trying to null the property. It doesn't appear to be working though

[royal stump]

yeah, at a glance that does seem like it should work, though I'm not super familiar with editmap's behavior

[ornate locust]

And I put it null with no quotes like it says

double checked that

[marsh reef]

where's the bridge?

and can you just, delete the passible property

[ornate locust]

well, as I said, I can't find where it's added at all

[royal stump]

she's editing a pre-existing SVE map to try and remove those (Mountain -> 58,30, etc in the file there)

[ornate locust]

But it;s NUTS because half of this bridge is where the bridge is in the SVE map already??

I don't know why it's becoming impassable just when I put a different bridge there

maybe... well I have one idea that just occurred to me, I don't think the part you walk on has any of the tile under it hsowing, maybe I can just put the damn thing on th back layer and hope it stops saying it's impassable

[marsh reef]

all the bridges dont work?

[ornate locust]

Nope that didn't work

No, only some of them

[marsh reef]

specifically the mountain one?

[ornate locust]

There is more than one mountain one and some of them work

I can actually take one step onto one of the bridges on the same side as the original walkable area but no farther, and I can't walk at all on the other side

[marsh reef]

🤔 "For some reason the back tile under these bridges is set to 'Passable F'" they're not in the vanilla, idk why they are for you, is it a modded map?

[royal stump]

yes, it's patching over SVE, not the base game's mountain

[marsh reef]

ooooohhhh

sorry didnt see that okok

[ornate locust]

The vanilla replacements work fine

in the same spots

[marsh reef]

bro idk why sve did that bc the what on earth 😭 normal bridges are not built like that 😅

but it is still just the buildings that has "passable t" in sve 🤔

[ornate locust]

I can't actually find where SVE adds the passable F either, if it does. I don't know why it would

[marsh reef]

wait waht

[royal stump]

some of SVE's patches have passable F on the water tiles and such, inside the tilesheet itself

not sure about their base mountain map, but there were some in the shortcuts patch

[marsh reef]

no it does, just, right off the side instead of placing invis blocks or tile data

[ornate locust]

Ohf-

[marsh reef]

ewwie :3

[marsh reef]

ohhhh

[ornate locust]

I swear I looked there, must have been on the wrong tile or something

[marsh reef]

yea sure enough

[marsh reef]

its some very specific tiles

[royal stump]

<tile id="1249">
<properties>
<property name="Passable" value="F"/>
<property name="Water" value="T"/>
</properties>
</tile>
<tile id="1252">```
etc, on the outdoor sheet I think

[ornate locust]

Oh I think I have a normal copy of the outdoor tilesheet on this patch and that's why I couldn't see it

[marsh reef]

these four

[ornate locust]

that'd explain it

Okay thanks for the extra eyes, that was driving me crazy

Yeah that tile's under the bridge in the vanilla patch, so when I apply it to SVE, it picks up the Passable F, that explains why it was so inconsistent and weird

[marsh reef]

just finagle the other empty, or almost such tiles, around the bridge so your shins dont explode upon contact with the bridge 🙂‍↕️

[ornate locust]

Luckily the passable clear water tile will do me just fine

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ true

[inner harbor]

Does loading a map conditionally based on mods loaded cause a crash in multiplayer?

(because EditMap appears to not be working for my SVE variant)

[inner harbor]

I am now endeavoring to play co op with myself.

[half tangle]

I can't check the code right now to be more helpful/specific, but I wonder if it's 1) a mod mismatch between players or 2) if at the time of a Load the condition isn't the same between players. Is there a reason you're putting the condition on the Load rather than the EditMap? (Esca will no doubt be more knowledgeable here)

[royal stump]

if it's a full map, you'd also need to make Data/Locations conditional, but otherwise it shouldn't be any weirder than usual; player mod differences would be a problem even if it's unconditional

and HasMod should give the same results from startup, so it won't load the map any later or anything

[inner harbor]

Yeah it works fine, we just ran into problems with the seasonal maps previously

I am having to switch it from EditMap because EditMap just doesn't seem to work anymore.

(I've no idea why)

(and no inclination to mess around for hours trying to figure it out)

(I really just want to play Pokopia)

[umbral vigil]

i am making my first mod and want to change the deafult farmhouse inside and for all upgrades how do i create the updated map locations and all of that or does someone reccomend to not start with this as a first mod

in that i mean how do i make my own tmx and all of that

stuff like resizing

i am pllaning on using content patcher but if needed i know a bit of c#

[verbal glacier]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps Here's the wiki page on making maps, good luck with your mod!

[umbral vigil]

thanks

[umbral vigil]

for now i am doing it small but i did not get how do you do the tile data?

[latent mauve]

Just FYI, it appears that your mod (Pelican Town Accessibility - Handrails and Wheelchair Ramps) is exclusively loading the same file in multiple patches (which means none of the patches load) according to a user, so you might be missing your When conditions or need to set a Priority on your Loads to fix it?

[craggy goblet]

Just a small thing here: Can I put multiple "When" conditions into one and the same {} bracket, separating them by a comma? Does that work?

[latent mauve]

It sure does! You can't repeat fields though, so if you need multiple seasons, for example, you would need to include them both as a comma separated value for that field in your When argument.

[stoic chasm]

|˶˙ᵕ˙ )ﾉﾞ Hellloooo. I was just wondering, how can I make a chair sittable in my npcs house-? Sorry if that sentence doesn't make sense, I'm not too sure how to word it-

[latent mauve]

If it's a map tile and not a furniture item, you will need to create a Data/ChairTiles entry

[stoic chasm]

Riiight okay... So how do I do that-?

[latent mauve]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

Scroll down to Advanced Edits and "Sitting on non-furniture chairs"

[stoic chasm]

Oooh okay! Thank you for your help! I didn't even think to check there-

[gentle rose]

It seems like you're trying to run a debugger rather than building - can you screenshot the button you use for building?

but regardless, that shouldn't be an issue could you show us what is in your .csproj file?

[void aspen]

Not sure what exactly you tried to do here but you can use one big rectangle here

Or three if you wanna have one extra tile untouched

Wait it actually looks scary in 1pm in the morning

[royal stump]

.csproj is different from the .cs file(s), and should look something like this if opened as a text file

<Project Sdk="Microsoft.NET.Sdk">
  <PropertyGroup>
    <AssemblyName>Your mod name</AssemblyName>
    <RootNamespace>Your mod name</RootNamespace>
    <Version>1.0.0</Version>
    <TargetFramework>net6.0</TargetFramework>
    <LangVersion>latest</LangVersion>
  </PropertyGroup>

  <ItemGroup>
    <PackageReference Include="Pathoschild.Stardew.ModBuildConfig" Version="4.4.0" />
  </ItemGroup>
</Project>```

I'm not really sure why VS would be trying to start (or connect to?) a debug server on build, but you might've made a different project type, or need to change a setting somewhere, etc

in the VS 2022 interface, it should look like this, and you can right-click and choose Edit Project File to see it directly

no, the manifest.json goes in your final mod folder, but isn't directly involved in the code & isn't an xml file

there's a manifest.json explanation here, and you can basically just add that to your project when it's working as an extra file
https://www.stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Manifest
anyway, Class Library should be the correct option, but I've never had VS try to debug anything while just building a project, personally

if you open WolfMod.csproj and post the contents here, iro or someone else might recognize something about what's going wrong, though you may just need to look up the error text in general; it's not something I've seen come up related to Stardew, at least

you've got several nuget packages I'm not really familiar with myself, so it's possible one of them is causing the debug issue?

<ItemGroup>
<PackageReference Include="EventGenerator" Version="1.1.1" />
<PackageReference Include="Juice805.StardewConfigFramework" Version="2.0.0" />
<PackageReference Include="Leclair.Stardew.ModManifestBuilder" Version="2.4.1" />
<PackageReference Include="michaelgatesdev.sdv.common" Version="1.0.0" />
<PackageReference Include="Newtonsoft.Json" Version="13.0.4" />
<PackageReference Include="Pathoschild.Http.FluentClient" Version="4.4.2" />
<PackageReference Include="Pathoschild.Stardew.ModBuildConfig" Version="4.4.0" />
<PackageReference Include="TehPers.CoreMod.Api" Version="0.1.1" />
<PackageReference Include="tlitookilakin.StarModGen" Version="0.2.8" />
</ItemGroup>```

[gentle rose]

I have never heard of most of these

and I can’t imagine pathos’ fluent http client is in any way relevant

[royal stump]

Pathos's ModBuildConfig is the one used in (almost) every C# mod, but the others are probably unnecessary for a starting project

also TehPers hasn't been around much for years, so that may be outdated, among others

I'd recommend against that & remove those unless you know what they do

[gentle rose]

blindly doing anything in code is never helpful, for what it’s worth

[royal stump]

the latest version of ModBuildConfig should be all you need at the moment

(also nugets behave oddly when changed sometimes, but restarting VS can help)

[gentle rose]

I've also never seen a mod need the "Compile include" line

you will have a much tougher time with vs code

visual studio at least has the tools to automatically do some of the things you need to do - vscode doesn't. Some people do use vscode together with command line tools but those tend to be people with more code experience than you have.

That being said, I don't think the tutorial you're following right now is correct, because you ended up wsith a lot of things that don't make sense - you have c# files in multiple levels of your mod including two modentry.cs file, for example. You also seem to be writing your mod inside the Mods folder (I wouldn't really recommend it in general) and I think we need to see your .sln file in this case too

that's probably a good call, but without having better resources this time, you aren't likely to have better results, so if you tell us what you're currently using as a tutorial we may be able to point you in a better direction

ah, that may be part of the issue - because of the speed at which stardew modding changes, youtube tutorials don't tend to stay relevant for long, which also means most people who really deeply understand the code don't make them, which makes them even less reliable at times.

We recommend using a mix of the wiki, the modding wiki, and this channel to start out with, as well as some "generic" C# resources like "the yellow book"

and for a lot of things, your best bet will be looking up open-source mods' code and seeing how they do it!

There's no reason to be stressed at all! we all do this as a hobby, our favourite thing is people asking questions and showing interest. Even if it does seem like something you do to learn has irritated someone, odds are that they're just annoyed that there are resources out there that mislead people. If you're willing to learn you'll go far

[timber pilot]

should I change the target? also should I still use (O) for a cooking item?

[royal stump]

possible mods aside, the only thing that can be cooked are (O) objects, and those are only defined in Data/Objects

(or rather, type "Cooking" is only something objects can have)
there's an overview of other types/assets here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items#Item_types

[calm nebula]

Can you plz take a screenshot of it?

!fileextensions is a possibility

[ocean sail]

Hidden File Extensions

Windows and Mac hide most file extensions by default. If you are creating or updating mods, it's helpful to show file extensions so that you can be sure all mod files are named correctly.

To show file extensions on your computer:

On Windows 10, open File Explorer, click on the View tab, then check the File Name Extensions box.

On Windows 11, open File Explorer and click on View > Show > File Name Extensions.

On Mac, open Finder, and in the menu bar, click on Finder > Settings (or Preferences) > Advanced, then check the Show all filename extensions box.

To use this command, type !fileextensions.

[calm nebula]

Yes

Both in your text editor and in the file system

okay, did you build the mod?

is it auto-deploying or no?

the < > should be removed, that's just the usual markers for "fill this in here"

but that wouldn't be your issue probably

okay, hit the build button, then screenshot all the build logs

In your case, because you have one mod in thr solution, those are equivalent

[strong kite]

Oh right I forgot this is what I ended off with last night

[hard fern]

Woah i know what those are

Also no I dont think you can AT the desert racers

[rich seal]

Jeez before I even reposted lol. Unfortunate, I had a funny sprite made and everything. Oh well 🥲

[hard fern]

Well, you could just make a cp mod for it

[verbal glacier]

if it's just 1 sprite you can use EditImage

[rich seal]

Fair, I forgot about that. I'll look into that and hopefully get it right on my first attempt then. Thanks

[verbal glacier]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editimage.md

[strong kite]

Does anyone know why this might be offset?

[void aspen]

Different grid it seems

[strong kite]

Any idea how I'd fix that?

[hard fern]

You have a bigger backpack mod?

[strong kite]

Oh, yes

[hard fern]

Well then that's your issue

[strong kite]

aw shoot

[hard fern]

Well it's fine

It won't affect your mod

Just look really annoying for you

[strong kite]

Is there no way to fix it? I mean vanilla bundles look fine with this mod

[hard fern]

Might have to look at something on the inventory mod's end

[strong kite]

Ah shoot it's a DLL 😭

And made by SpaceChase

But this just goes to show that I should probably be testing my mod without other mods installed

[hard fern]

This is true

Better to keep a minimal list of mods

[strong kite]

Am I gonna disable them? Probably not

I mean okay maybe I'll disable some

-# actually I don't know why I'm being stingy LMAO

Oh wait there's a command in the console for regenerating bundles? Awesome!

[toxic topaz]

Damn that looks good

[strong kite]

oh i dont think the command worked for modded bundles

[dreamy dew]

Since this wasn't answered in the modded channel, I'm gonna ask here.

Do the grass and trees outside the Farm cell created or added by SVE grow and spread? Like, in town.

[toxic topaz]

Uhhh, think it depends on the map properties that were assigned there

Or maybe it was a tile property I forget

[rich seal]

I ran into a few issues getting both the AT aspect and CP aspect to work together, but I worked it out by just making the desert racer CP edit a separate mod that will be bundled with the AT mod. My wretched idea now has life, can be toggled on and off, and will be uploaded shortly after I stop laughing at how stupid this is lmao

[royal stump]

Normal or modded trees outside the farm have a small chance to regrow per day (and skip some stages when they do), but they don't spread seeds around. Player-planted tree seeds will grow normally, though. https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Trees#Outside_the_Farm

Oh, and modded trees do have a few extra customizations, but they usually work about the same as normal non-Farm trees. Search for tree properties here: https://www.stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[strong kite]

Alright, how and where would I register extra portraits beyond the initial 6?
I imagine either in my characters.json or in a portraits.json?

[craggy goblet]

What exactly do you mean? Portraits besides the "standard" emotions?

[hard fern]

Neither

Just make the sheet longer

And use the associated portrait key based on number in the dialogue like you do with the rest of them

[strong kite]

Oh, alright cool!

[craggy goblet]

It's easy actually

[royal stump]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Portraits
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Portrait_commands
yeah, just count up from $0 for the top left one, $1 for the top right, $2 for the left below that, etc

[craggy goblet]

Just like Forsy said

And Esca

[strong kite]

Good to know, ty!

[strong kite]

Hm.. would there be a way to change how my character responds to gifts based on how many hearts the player has with them? Cuz I have ideas for gift dialogue but they definitely set 2 different tones

Like it uses 1 set of dialogue until you have say 5 hearts with the character, then it uses the other set of dialogue?

[nova gale]

is there a context tag so a unique item won't be lost on death?

(in this case it's a tool, and maybe tools are already exempt)

nm, I see it "CanBeLostOnDeath" right in my face 😛

[royal stump]

there might be another route, but editing the Data/GiftTastes entry based on hearts or relationship tokens should work
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#relationships

[hard fern]

I did a thing with dynamic tokens

Forgive my botched explanation bc im on mobile but

I'd have the token for friendship level, and set one for low, medium, and high

And then use the token in my i18n key, that would resolve to the matching key in my i18n file

[strong kite]

Oooo that sounds great! When you're no longer on mobile could you post an example?

[hard fern]

I'll see if i can find it, if not I'll just write a new one

[strong kite]

Alrighty! ty!

[craggy goblet]

So I'm thinking of writing some compat dialogues lines (for the Cornucopia mods alongside mine), and... What's the format of those?

Something like
{{i18n:(ModID).Cornucopia__(Item)_}}
??

[royal stump]

as far as I know, you can't access another mod's i18n, and that would only affect dialogue added by them anyway; you'll want to edit the existing dialogue targets (again, if it's from your mod) and use the HasMod token with Cornucopia's ID

[lunar geyser]

How hard is it to go into a map recolour and alter unedited assets? I'm working off of an unofficial eemie's map recolour and some assets are excluded, so I wanted to try to fix them myself, but I've NEVER modded or gone into source code before 😭

[hard fern]

From my own experience, kinda hard since matching colors is not always easy.

There's like morbillion green shades in the grass

And you have to recolor every pixel XD

But mechanically, no it's not hard at all

[lunar geyser]

Would it be possible to somehow copy-paste the asset thats working and the assets that aren't? Tree example, no idea why they do this or why they aren't overriden with existing tree replacements

[lunar geyser]

I'd do that for my beloved eemie 😭

[hard fern]

Confused at what the left image is supposed to show

[lunar geyser]

Sorry, it's the properly coloured asset and the assets that are for some reason the right replacement but the vanilla colours

[royal stump]

@craggy goblet forgot to ping, so in case the reply gets lost: ⬆️

[hard fern]

Honestly that might be something another mod added

In the image to the right

[calm nebula]

Tools are already exempt too

[lunar geyser]

that ones pretty ignorable i think, its just the trees that are tripping me up

[ocean sail]

@lunar geyser You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now share images in all channels!

[hard fern]

Still confused on what's wrong with the trees

They look fine to me

[lunar geyser]

they're the vanilla colours, not the recoloured more muted shade

[hard fern]

Hm, no?

They're not

The vanilla trees don't look like that

You have another mod changing them

[lunar geyser]

not the appearance but colours, its the summer grass

[hard fern]

Ok im so stumped

😅

I...

I have no idea

[lunar geyser]

IDK if i'm explaining this right 😭 behind the fences, the trees which are i think tile-sheet related, are the bright/vibrant summer shade, but the interactable and plantable ones are a different colour. is that intentional?

[hard fern]

Yeah lol

I took a look at the mod those trees come from

It's just like that.

[lunar geyser]

they come from the map recolour

[hard fern]

I'm pretty sure they're not 🤔

[lunar geyser]

ahh, okay, you're right, there's a foliage mod

but weirdly that foliage mod even taken out it doesn't impact it

[hard fern]

I feel like this is dipping into #1272025932932055121 territory

You're better off making a thread in there

[lunar geyser]

oke ill try that ty! :D

[craggy goblet]

@royal stump So something like this probably wouldn't work?

[hard fern]

ok, found it (bear with me a little lol)

so here's what I did with the dynamic tokens

            "Name": "{{NPCFriendshipLvl}}",
            "Value": "High",
            "When": {
                "Hearts:MyNPC": "{{Range: 5, 10}}"
            }
        },
        {
            "Name": "{{NPCFriendshipLvl}}",
            "Value": "Low",
            "When": {
                "Hearts:MyNPC": "{{Range: 0, 4}}"
            }
        },```

[royal stump]

If those are the correct item IDs for cornucopia's items, then that's fine, though I'm not sure what Cornucopia's mod ID is & normally they're formatted like AuthorName.ModName.

There's no required format for i18n keys at all, they just need to match whatever you use in your i18n files. I misinterpreted that earlier as you wanting to edit i18n text from another mod, or dialogue added by one, etc.

[hard fern]

the i18n has keys for each

    "MyNPCLow": "bla",```
and the way it would look in i18n would just be ``{{i18n:MyNPC{{NPCFriendshipLvl}}}}``

[scenic ferry]

Oooooo~ might have to steal that idea...

I dont know that id do it with gift taste but I might take it for other stuff like schedules or somethin

[hard fern]

you could make it 100% harder for yourself by making it change on every heart level.

[scenic ferry]

Reminds me of myself making 6 different dialogue lines per day of the week per heart level

Will anyone see all that dialogue
No probably not
But hey

[strong kite]

Ty!

[strong kite]

Would this go in a separate file for dynamic tokens or..?

[royal stump]

Alright, looking at Cornucopia's crops at least, Cornucopia_Basil etc does seem to be their entire ID format. However, those don't seem to be valid keys for the AcceptGift dialogue:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Item_dialogue

[hard fern]

they go in your content.json

[royal stump]

Things like AcceptGift_(O)Cornucopia_Cucumber should work, or AcceptGift_Loved would be the response text for an already-loved item, but they don't combine like in the screen photo

AcceptGift also doesn't determine the NPC's preferences, just the text for that specific item

[scenic ferry]

If the dialogue is for the individual item, AcceptGift(0) should work fine right?

[craggy goblet]

Alright, so everything without the preferences... and the rest is okay so far?

[royal stump]

The i18n keys seem fine, assuming you've got matching entries in i18n/default.json for them, yeah

[whole prism]

Would you say this is a save way to migrate old quests?

One of my quests has an invalid item id

and i dont think u can change active quests ever

so this was my idea of doing a migration

(ignore that i forgot current in AddMail)

[craggy goblet]

I've wanted to work them just a little later on so I at least have the structure right. But yeah, will remember that when the time comes :)

[strong kite]

Wait okay I'm still a little confused on how to actually arrange this in the i18n file and the dialogue file

[hard fern]

make sure that's a capital O and not a zero btw

[hard fern]

well your i18n is just your i18n, you don't do anything special to it except put the keys in there

and also this doesnt go in dialogue, it's in the gift tastes

(which is what i assumed you wanted)

[strong kite]

Oh I thought the dialogue for gift tastes would've gone in with the other dialogues, then be controlled by i18n

[hard fern]

the dialogue for gift tastes really is just slapped in the gift tastes themselves.

go look at the ones for vanilla characters

it'll be a better reference than me XD

[scenic ferry]

If you dont want to do unique dialogue for every single item you could also make the i18n something like {{i18n:CornucopiaGiftReact}} and just have them react to all of them the same way (or to divide it up more like FruitReact or VegReact or whatever)
Making unique dialogue for every single crop gift is a pretty big task

[strong kite]

Oh right! The system I have is for appending vanilla gift tastes, not setting them up in the first place!

[hard fern]

ah well you can append dialogue too

just target a different field

[strong kite]

ah- not what I mean. I imagine I can't append Darkrai's gift tastes if there isn't a field for Darkrai in the first place
I imagine I have to set it up vanilla style for the new character

[hard fern]

ah

yeah

[scenic ferry]

Yeah that'd be important lol

[hard fern]

youll have to set it up or else XD

[whole prism]

Im gonna give this quest migration a try

i shall update yall on how it goes

It works!

yayy, first time migrating quests

does anyone know how to make it so if a quest is added, there's an option to add it silently?

[strong kite]

Alright I'm still struggling to comprehend how to actually format the dynamic token strings in the i18n file, this representation isn't really clicking with me

[whole prism]

I mean idm if its not possible, but i would like to know if there is a way

[hard fern]

they're just formatted the same way i wrote them, what about it specifically is confusing?

[strong kite]

I guess just how that connects to the different dialogues and differences in loved/neutral/hated etc. and birthday gift dialogue

[hard fern]

they don't

well

like

they're all different

i only showed a very general example of how one might change one particular gift taste response

[strong kite]

So would I replace "MyNPC" with the whole string like "DarkraiLoved"?

[fossil osprey]

The token value is directly replacing the token name in curly brackets
So if you have a dynamic token like MyNPC{{tokenname}}, and tokenname can have a value of low or high, then the available keys will be MyNPClow and MyNPChigh

Is that what you had trouble with?

[strong kite]

No, just wasn't sure if MyNPC HAS to be just the NPC name or if that refers to the entire rest of the Id

[fossil osprey]

You can put anything, that's something you define yourself

[hard fern]

genuinely you can make it whatever you want since it's an i18n dialogue key

[fossil osprey]

it's just a key for you to know what it replaces, it doesn't have a specific meaning in the code

[strong kite]

Alrighty! Sorry for being kinda dense with this
I'm much better at grasping things how someone else has used them fully rather than in a tutorial format

[hard fern]

I only used MyNPC as a placeholder because my actual json has too much crap in it

[fossil osprey]

It's more explicit if your i18n that contains your npc loved gift reaction is named MyNpcLovedGift than 4566125456

[hard fern]

and i think it would just confuse you more

[torpid sparrow]

dynamic token georg not here sad

[strong kite]

Unironically I'd probably be able to grasp that better

I mean I'd prolly be confused at first

But seeing it in actual contextual use I'd probably grasp it sooner rather than later

[hard fern]

well, really it has too much weird stuff in it 😅

i'll try and make it a little more complicated

[strong kite]

But basically, something like this should work?

[fossil osprey]

Well you can download any NPC mod than uses CP and see how they do it :)

[hard fern]

well no you can't use tokens in i18n themselves

you have to write out what the token would be

[strong kite]

I just realized that 😭

Alright that's fine then, I had just quickly replaced what I already had

So THIS then, and then everything else i'd use say "DarkraiLovedBirthdayGiftDialogue{{NPCFriendshipLvl}}"?

Like use that string in the gift tastes file

Yes Servant and Friend are my Ids in the token

[hard fern]

yeah

the birthday gift dialogue goes in your dialogue btw, just so you know

you don't format it the same as gift tastes

[strong kite]

Alrighty, t-

[strong kite]

Well good thing I hadn't deleted all of that yet

[hard fern]

the i18n can stay where it is

just you need to add the i18n into your dialogue.json instead for birthday gifts

[strong kite]

Alrighty

So like this, or would I only need one set of these?

[hard fern]

like that

you kinda have it cloned though

[strong kite]

Alright yea that's what I was thinking

Do I remove the set of clones or add differentiators?

[hard fern]

remove clone

using a dynamic token means you only need one thing for each gift reaction

since it'll automatically use the right one based on the conditions you gave it

[strong kite]

Alrighty! Ty!

[eager tree]

does anyone uses this with Visual Studio? just trying it out, but im not sure i understood how to use all it's features

[whole prism]

dont think so, but that seems very nice

[autumn tide]

I do! it's really good

@eager tree forgot to summon you

[eager tree]

niiice

[ornate locust]

aha there is a typo in my recolor checks for exactly one recolor.

[toxic topaz]

what is this?

[gaunt orbit]

Using vs for json is like using a chainsaw to whittle
Although if you're already using it for other things you may as well

[eager tree]

it's an extension for VS

[eager tree]

a lot of wikis recommend, so im a bit confused. what do you recommend instead?

[gaunt orbit]

Do they recommend vs or vscode?

[eager tree]

visual studio code, sorry, i shortened it. didnt know there was just a visual studio lmao

[gaunt orbit]

Yeah they r two different things lol

[toxic topaz]

i love using VS because its nice having everything in one place and it does everything file related for you

[gaunt orbit]

I like using vs for c#. The debugger is excellent

The autocomplete has gotten less good but it's still useful

Anyways yeah vscode is good for json, that's the sort of thing it was built for

VS can also do json but it's massive and if you were only using it for that you'd be using like 1% of it. It's a lot heavier but also more powerful for c#, f#, and c++

[toxic topaz]

i turned that off because it got annoying lol

[eager tree]

i will keep this in mind when i start learning C#

[gaunt orbit]

I feel like it was both smarter and faster in the 2019 version

[toxic topaz]

this is shaping up to look pretty good i think

[strong kite]

Coming back from a break, I'm realizing I should probably quickly do the things I've written that I need to do. Like.. as of now, the item that actually triggers the whole sequence of events with my new NPC and whatnot is only available in year 3 Which.. at least to me feels like you're already at a point in the game where you can easily just have everything you might need for bundles right from the getgo so I gotta make it available as early as Year 1
It's a food recipe so just removing the year requirement to buy the recipe from Krobus should be easy, but said recipe also requires a berry that's only available in Year 3. So I was thinking I'd add limited quantities of 1 seed packet to event shops. It's a crop that grows in any season so I think that works out.

I could 100% do this myself but I kinda love the idea of community input (and want to justify myself yapping about this), so what are some niche shops in the game before Ginger Island that would be fun to put a single seed for sale in? Spirit's Eve is definitely one I wanna do given the nightmare nature of the crop

[eager tree]

egg hunt pierre already sells seeds, so i think it would be fitting

[tiny zealot]

desert festival is (typically) available before ginger island and i've put a few progression things there

mine were magic items so they made sense (to me) at the shadow vendor in exchange for calico eggs

[verbal glacier]

the travelling merchant at the Festival of Ice or the Night Market and the Casino

[marsh reef]

Eyyyy tyty :D

[strong kite]

I'm realizing I meant the stardew valley fair not Spirit's Eve. I kinda forgot they were two different events
But ye Night Market, Desert Festival, and Egg Hunt seem like great places!

I also have the travelling cart semi set up for another crop seed, but I think it's set to always appear..? I made it 2 years ago so idk if it's available every time or not, and I don't know how to change it if it is available every time

[marsh reef]

🤔 it kinda feels too jutt out of a rock formation, idk how to explain it

[toxic topaz]

hmmmm, the deserty part? or the cliff part

[marsh reef]

Can I ask what’re we talking about? :3

[verbal glacier]

you can add conditions for certain items to appear/disappear

[marsh reef]

The cliff 🙂‍↕️

Wait

Desert being the above? Then that yea, the cliff that size makes sense but then the part above also being that size makes it seem like logically it’d be way unstable

[strong kite]

Some of the berries in my mod. The Lansat Berry and the Enigma Berry. The Lansat berry is already available in the Travelling Cart, but I think it's set to ALWAYS appear when I want it to only be a chance

[toxic topaz]

heres the entire thing, do you think having like rocks sortof on either sode would help

idk how to explain it... uh like how it is for the summit

[marsh reef]

🤔 🙂‍↕️ yea the summit like tapers out

[marsh reef]

Enigmaaaaa, I see I see

[scenic ferry]

finally looking into HaveMoreKids framework and oh dear, the power i have at my fingertips....

[verbal glacier]

same

[marsh reef]

What does that mean

😨

[verbal glacier]

it is a framework mod that allows for adoption/more kids content

[scenic ferry]

I can make my custom npc have custom npc children

maybe even ones that grow into their own fully functional adults

[marsh reef]

Adopt Shane and make him stop being emo

[scenic ferry]

BAHAHA

[verbal glacier]

you could make him adoptable yes

[toxic topaz]

idk then

[scenic ferry]

since I just launched a custom child npc I want to make them adoptable first
Yuzuki my beloved you shall thrive on the farm

[toxic topaz]

mostly im just super stumped about what to do with the gradient in the back...

[marsh reef]

I think if you were to make the bit up top with the cactus be extended out to the sides and like, an uneven amount so it’s semi natural looking, it would make it feel more like, mmm yes this could happen

[marsh reef]

Wdym

[toxic topaz]

idk, everything i try just looks bad

[marsh reef]

Chat make kirito

[toxic topaz]

i was thinking of it being light like the normal desert going to a dark mysterious color

like a purple

[marsh reef]

You’ve only been doing this for a week or smthn no? It’s bound to not be to your liking mostly because you made it 😞 doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep trying 🫡

[strong kite]

Oh okay Pierre DOES have a shop during Spirit's Eve! Sweeeet

[toxic topaz]

but still, the main problem is that its lacking the illusion that makes it feel like everything is far away lol

[marsh reef]

I see

[marsh reef]

That will be the last thing to work trust me, you need everything in else in scale to make it look believable at all

🙂‍↕️ add hills with their shadows being cast, add tiny cacti, ignore the sky for now

And add a lil entrance to the pyramid

[toxic topaz]

you're looking at the tiny cacti lol

[marsh reef]

Bro it’s a desert there’s gotta be more than one if you’re wanting distance 😂

[scenic ferry]

id make them considerably bigger
Totally understand conceptually the idea that they'd be small because perspective, but on a practical level they also have to be... visible, yknow?

[marsh reef]

True, that would also.. make the pyramid about the size of a dang mountain

[toxic topaz]

ill have to shrink the pyramid...

i was thinking about doing that anyways

[marsh reef]

Or make everything else a lil bigger :3

Bc unless you’re gonna make the sandstorm part a 15 minute side scroller… uh that’s really far

[toxic topaz]

in game its already big to the point where it doesnt look good

because pyramids are already massive structues, so if its smaller, i think that you would assume that its further away

[marsh reef]

They are massive but you’re making a sea moth a colossal entity

[strong kite]

So a few things: Is this code outdated? I did it 2 years ago, idk if anything might've changed.
Second, did I get this right? This condition should make it so this seed will only be sold between 4 and 8pm if it's raining in Cindersap Forest?
Third.. is this evil?

[marsh reef]

I forgot the name of the big one :3 so entity it is

[toxic topaz]

sea moth?

[marsh reef]

Subnautica 😅

[marsh reef]

Idk, idk, yes.

What do you mean a possible 11.4k for A BERRY

[strong kite]

It's a seed

[scenic ferry]

RANDOM PRICE???????

evil

[strong kite]

It's the traveling cart!

[scenic ferry]

eeeevil

[marsh reef]

Chat that is not much better 😂

[toxic topaz]

okay ill redraw the pyramid and check how it looks after i shrink it a bit

[marsh reef]

Star fruit is like 80 at the desert

[strong kite]

wait actually when does this seed even grow