making-mods-general

[brittle pasture]

but I'm a strong proponent for quest framework unification so I might be a little biased

like there's no difference between a quest that tells you to fish 20 tilapias and a special order that tells you to fish 20 tilapias, aside from the latter having a nicer format to work with

[golden basin]

but the way i have my quest written its not possible...

i have my quest written in a way that randomizes things sort of infinitely

[brittle pasture]

with CP tokens? you can do that with SOs too

[golden basin]

: )

see

[hard fern]

[golden basin]

is randomly chooses a person, objects, reward etc

[scarlet warren]

But.... like... they all have that comma? Why just line 30?

[royal stump]

tbh when SOs became a thing, I figured they'd convert quests to it later
Quest Framework was available back then too, but hard to maintain with all the changes iirc
(also I may have misread your post a bit, just got back)

[brittle pasture]

SOs even have native randomization built in so you can use 0 tokens if you want
but I see why you would not want to convert that again

[golden basin]

it was hellish creating yeah

[calm nebula]

Wasn't that QF in 1.5

Anyways

[golden basin]

if i knew csharp id just code it in but oof

[calm nebula]

You're nominated, DH

[blissful panther]

Might be worth a mention in the thread!

[calm nebula]

I expect to see it on my desk on Wednesday

[brittle pasture]

(https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Special_orders#Randomized_Elements)

[blissful panther]

I will make QF Redux within five years unless a replacement happens, guaranteed!

[golden basin]

i mean i guess i could rewrite my code...

[calm nebula]

I guess i did not specify which Wednesday

[golden basin]

is there a mod example esca for your frame work for the board i learn better with examples

[blissful panther]

There are lots of Wednesdays.

[brittle pasture]

hmm isnt there like a framework for interactable images (i might be hallucinating)

[royal stump]

I feel like a quest modder should be the one to suggest it, I just have a framework that opens a menu
(and no idea how much work conversions would be)

[calm nebula]

My favorite is the one for the TV show

[royal stump]

Lumina actually commissioned the feature from me, back when I was temporarily taking those
I think she has a couple that use it, one sec

[brittle pasture]

mount vapius has its own board as an example

[golden basin]

like so?

[royal stump]

On Buildings, you want an Action with the value Esca.EMP/CustomBoard your_OrderType_here

[golden basin]

so if my order type is Esca.EMP/{{ModID}}/RepeatableQuest

its that or the RepeatableQuest part?

[royal stump]

if your SOs have "OrderType": "Esca.EMP/{{ModID}}/RepeatableQuest"
then the action should be Esca.EMP/CustomBoard Esca.EMP/Fellowclown.YV/RepeatableQuest
or w/e the actual mod ID since, since the token won't work directly in a map

[golden basin]

oooo

thank you

[royal stump]

(oh, and yeah, true at the end for the ! part)
(I forgot it's not a separate tile property )

[golden basin]

no worries

now to figure out....randomization

[royal stump]

and for comparison, VMV has "OrderType": "Esca.EMP/MtVapiusBoard", in its orders, with Action | CustomBoard MtVapiusBoard true in the tile property
(you can omit the first "Esca.EMP" parts in the action, but I recommend leaving it so it can't conflict w/ mods)

Farmhouse building logic tends to be weird/unique, and Lookup Anything seems to show a blank indoors value. You could try something like this instead:

if (__instance.indoors.Value is Cabin cabin)
{ /* check cabins here first */ }
else if (__instance.buildingType.Value == "Farmhouse")
{ /* check farmhouse here */ }

or if that field doesn't work, __instance.nonInstancedIndoorsName.Value seems like it should be "FarmHouse"

[golden basin]

the fact that the speical orders require context tags only and i cant use item ids is a sin

[stable grotto]

send a log?
it doesn't matter which one you put in the query, either one should be fine but the CP one is correct

[lucid iron]

You can always use id_o_itemid

[autumn tide]

they what

[golden basin]

what what is that what do you mean im dying scoob

[lucid iron]

All items get an autogenerated context tag

So u can use that one

[golden basin]

im gonna eat my hands thank you

[lucid iron]

U can check what tags r on item in game with lookup anything

[golden basin]

sooooo say for example

id_o_Fellowclown.TAE_SweetJoluuSwirl

[lucid iron]

Yeah basically

Checking in game is just to validate

[golden basin]

you just saved me so much extra work thank you

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Context_tags#Added_automatically for more info

[stable grotto]

let me copy that code real quick...

[golden basin]

testing the board now

[rotund plume]

Hello! I'm new to stardew modding and before I dive in I just wanted to check that this info is still up to date? Any new guides specifically for custom NPC/schedules & map modding?

[autumn tide]

hey! we have new resources how lol, one sec

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[autumn tide]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[rotund plume]

Thank you!

[royal stump]

in general I think the pins are still accurate, but yeah, the modding wiki with guides is new & some of that's more specific to new modders

[rotund plume]

It even looked like the stardew wiki might be out of date so I wasnt sure

[ivory plume]

(Worth noting that all those links are in the pinned message, except for the NPC-specific links. I can add the tutorial wiki to the pinned message too though.)

[royal stump]

there's a no-longer-used copy of the wiki at a different url, but that aside, all the main wiki's modding stuff should be up to date (or say it's not)
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Category:Modding
(or the more specific landing page here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Index)

[ivory plume]

Possible draft for the pinned message, which tries to briefly summarize the difference between the two wikis:

• Official guides and documentation (always kept up-to-date)
• Unofficial tutorial wiki (provides specific guides from community members, which may vary in quality or up-to-dateness)

[autumn tide]

hm, maybe specify tone and formality as well?

[uncut viper]

that edit looks fine to me

[ivory plume]

For the purposes of the pinned message, I think the important bit is "why would I click this link?". The tone is more of a style guide question when editing the wiki, it's not really relevant when a new mod author is just looking for info.

[stable grotto]

typing it out I noticed the mistake...
it's either "HasMod |contains=grapeponta.VibrantPastoralRecolor": true or "HasMod": "grapeponta.VibrantPastoralRecolor"

[scarlet warren]

Which is it supposed to be?

Ive never tried conditions before. this is all new to me

[golden basin]

my speical order board works!!!

[stable grotto]

for a true statement you can use either of them, if you ask for a false statement you can only use the first one

like for the block that doesn't patch vpr-colours you should put "HasMod |contains=grapeponta.VibrantPastoralRecolor": false as to not patch the same file twice

swapped the ModID for the CP one 'cause I have plans ||for easter eggs|| that involve the C# ID independently

works fine now

oh... there's two rows of pixels missing right beneath the hut that I somehow didn't catch yesterday it's a feature

[stable grotto]

that would work

[scarlet warren]

Ahhh, Hasmod is sperate from the ID

[scarlet warren]

???

ah

Let me see if I can edit it on my end

Does the default map edits really need a false-positive for your mod? What if other people are using mods from others?

[stable grotto]

?

[stable grotto]

it's not a false positive

[scarlet warren]

Sorry, I probably used the wrong term

[stable grotto]

it will apply those edits for all cases except for when vpr is detected

[scarlet warren]

ah

because then it should switch to the vpr version

[stable grotto]

exactly

[scarlet warren]

Uhh, will it not switch to the vpr version without that? Even if it sees the mod?

[stable grotto]

it would otherwise do both

[scarlet warren]

lol

[hallow prism]

part of today's modding progress (mainly the sprite. portrait is older, was refreshed a bit inspired by airyn's salt and pepper art i saw at some point)

[scarlet warren]

Did I mention I hate code?

[hallow prism]

and a flower dance outfit (now if i can find a flower i want to add, that would be cool)

[dire kestrel]

gorgeous

[golden basin]

for special orders, is there a way to put a custom currency as the reward

[hallow prism]

yes if it's an item

in which case you add it like you would for normal items, there's a field for that that i don't remember off hand, but both my order mod and VMV use it

i learned it from desty

[golden basin]

okay ill take a look if its okay>

?*

[calm nebula]

It's the same as the qi gems iirc

[hallow prism]

yes it is ok, it's why i mention it

[reef creek]

Hey I know this is a very simple question but I genuinely can't figure it out. In the event I'm making I'm trying to make the player sit at the saloon while facing the counter. what is the specific code i could use to achieve this?

[calm nebula]

You basically give the exact frames you need

Check out....Alex's saloon?

[hallow prism]

yeah sitting is annoying because you'll need to find the proper frame

wiki lists some

[ornate locust]

that's vanilla done anyway for ramp 1 (Fair1 is identical to the location normally, so that saved a bit)

[reef creek]

do you know which wiki page? is it the event data because I couldnt find it on there but I might just be dumb and missing it

[calm nebula]

I wonder if there is a debug mode thing for it

[hallow prism]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Farmer_sprite#Sprite_Index_Breakdown

so it is listed in event data info when you look at the animate command, but it is a bit hidden

[reef creek]

thank youu

[frosty cairn]

heyo, I'm working on a mod that sends out a regular series of letters and I'm sending each letter with its own trigger action - is there a better way of accomplishing this besides copypasting this block over and over again?

[ornate locust]

Do the letters need to be on specific days or are you having the letters sent out regularly starting when the person loads the mod (which may not be at the start of a save)?

[uncut viper]

also, do the letters need to be unlocked in order?

[frosty cairn]

they don't need to be on specific days, it's meant to mimic a magazine with an issue coming in every week or so

I did not think about the fact that someone may add this mod later in a save, so it probably shouldn't have these hard dates in that context

they do not have to be in a specific order - I've numbered the issues but there's no through-line story or anything

[uncut viper]

my personal choice would be to do this with a conversation topic timer

have one trigger action at the very top set a CT (conversation topic) for 7 days. every other trigger action below that sends a letter
each letter trigger action checks for not having the CT active. this will only be true after it expires after 7 days. if the CT is not active, then do two things: send the letter, and start the CT again

(you can alternatively omit the first trigger action that just starts the timer, the intent was to make the first magazine appear 7 days after installing the mod)

[hallow prism]

in VMV i used synced random, which was simple but not perfect

[uncut viper]

(but if you want them to get the first one immediately you can remove it, or change it to 4 days ,etc. each letter can use its own timing)

each letter can even use a {{Random}} token to decide how long to set the next cooldown for if you want

this method does however assume that you dont want to resend the same letter ever

[frosty cairn]

Definitely wouldn't want to repeat the letters!

[uncut viper]

makes it plenty easier then

[frosty cairn]

I'll start digging into CTs and the token and see if I can rewrite this to with all this in mind, thank you!!

[golden basin]

at first i got my special orer board working and now it just....stoppped out of nowhere

like its just blank now its so weird

[hallow prism]

you may not have enough orders repeatable that can be offered

[golden basin]

ooh i see

okay

hm its still not working maybe is hould take a break though

[ornate trellis]

here's a shot in the dark but you used item_o_itemID or w/e? I found for myself that SOs with that didnt work and I had to go with item_itemID instead(without the middle)

[golden basin]

interesting it was working before but ill try it

[ornate trellis]

just a random thought since it was what was the problem for me so i thought id mention it

[golden basin]

i know im pretty furstrated with it right now it was working perfectly before and then it just stopped

no errors either

[ornate trellis]

ye i get that, was in my case too, i was so close throwing the whole code out ngl

[golden basin]

yeah no still blank quest on the board

[ornate trellis]

damn

but wwhen you use commands they do work?

[golden basin]

let me test that

Got it workin!!!

[soft lance]

nicee!

for anyone here, got a quick question: https://smapi.io/json/none/4700cdaf20e64a26b24f74f63d1159c3

I'm trying to add support for a custom map, I wanted to add one of my modded fish into their ocean/water when detected, however, it seems like it does nothing, I got the right ID i used the whereis (or similar name), and checked in the code

Do you think I'm using the HasMod condition improperly? I'd love to know

[ornate trellis]

ohh nice, what was the issue? O:

[golden basin]

the way i was randomizing the quest id

[ornate trellis]

ohhh

[golden basin]

Im makign infintely generationing special orders

if you want the code set up im happy to share

[ornate trellis]

sounds neat, i am always intimidated by complicated things like that fdsfsd

[golden basin]

there we go fully functional

[ornate trellis]

I've like 2 SOs right now i should probs think of more at some point, hm

[ornate trellis]

I always thought if theres the hasmod with the true theres gotta be an entry for false but i might be wrong...what I did was just

"When": {
"HasMod": "modID",
}

[uncut viper]

there does not have to be an opposite entry

[soft lance]

yeah.. i htink so

ima try

this rq

ima see if it works

[ornate trellis]

inch resting then again someone told me long ago which was like 1.5 so we dont talk about it

[uncut viper]

it's never been the case

[ornate trellis]

yeah i know i mean whoever told me was probs wrong

[uncut viper]

your original condition had an errant ":" though

[ornate trellis]

just mentioned 1.5 to imply how long ago it was

[uncut viper]

"HasMod:" is wrong, "HasMod" is right

so it was plausibly trying to use your contains as an input argument which HasMod doesn't look at

(it also might not have been doing that, im not 100% sure how the parsing shakes out with an empty input argument, but either way the colon was wrong and could have been messing it up)

[ornate trellis]

🤔

[soft lance]

yeah i missed that,

I fixed it, oddly still doesnt do nothing

no error, no logging, bizzare

[hallow prism]

try a patch export

[soft lance]

alr

[uncut viper]

im not familiar with fish data myself so I'm not much more help here

[soft lance]

ahh gotcha, its more about trying to gget the mod to bbe detected, the fish spawns work in my mod, but im adding support to others mods so their water also got fishies

some user requested

but yeah i'll do a patch export to look into it

[dusk mulch]

i had a mod idea before i went to sleep and i forgot to write it down now i can’t remember it

ooo i got another one

[hallow prism]

it happens, sometimes it will return once you encounter something related to it

note this idea now however

[dusk mulch]

already done lol

[pine elbow]

if (__instance.indoors.Value is Cabin cabin && __instance.buildingType.Value=="Cabin")

else if (__instance.buildingType.Value == "Farmhouse")

return true;

It worked, thank you very much for the tip.

[hallow prism]

me : "i should add an event to character A, B or C instead of character G."
me : "let's add this event for character G!!!"

[ivory plume]

The C# mod build workflow is now in preview!

This lets you add automated builds to your mod repo, just by adding a little YAML file to it.

See also:

• Announcement post with more info.
• README for how to use it.
• An example mod build.
• An example attestation.

Feel free to try it out and give feedback. Note that it can still change at this point, so I suggest waiting if you don't want to update your workflow later.

[lucid iron]

hm can i use modmanifestbuilder for gh workflow u think

[ivory plume]

For ModManifestBuilder, I think you put your mod info in the .csproj and it creates the manifest.json for you? As long as it uses the standard <Version> field and runs on a standard dotnet build, that should work fine with this.

[ornate locust]

SVE versions done, don't need Joja ones for this particular ramp... but I will for ramp 2, that one's going last

[lucid iron]

ah the workflow doesn't handle submodules

[ivory plume]

The default one doesn't (since the vast majority of mod authors won't use them), but it's just adding a standard extra step to the list.

[lucid iron]

yar i gotta find the magic words

[lucid mulch]

Hmm, with the reference assemblies do they also have internal methods in them?

As my monorepo has a few mods that depends on compile time access to smapi internals (and some hardlinked to cp and one hardlinked to automate)

[ivory plume]

Yep, the reference assemblies are built with non-public methods too (here are the commands used to generate them).

[lucid mulch]

Sweet, so just a case of adding some logic to download the other mods somehow

[ivory plume]

Are they in submodules, or something custom?

[ivory plume]

Looks like you just need to add submodules: true:

            - name: Fetch code
              uses: actions/checkout@v4
              with:
                  fetch-tags: false
                  submodules: true

[lucid mulch]

They just rely on hint paths into a mod folder

<Reference Include="Automate">
      <HintPath>$(GamePath)\Mods\Automate\Automate.dll</HintPath>
      <Private>False</Private>
    </Reference>

[lucid iron]

hm idk why but the Directory.Builds.props didnt work (even locally)

i can make it work by putting the thing in csproj tho

[lucid mulch]

My newer mods use the manifestbuilder which adds some syntactic sugar around it but automatechests is ancient

[ivory plume]

Make sure it's Build (singular)? I'll fix that typo in the instructions.

[lucid mulch]

I thought I read something on the action steps that it's doing direct XML parsing of the csproj not running the full tooling to find the version

[lucid iron]

i prefer to have it just in csproj anyways (single mod repo)

hrm it build debug

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/actions/runs/21119568670

how do i make it pass -c Release

[autumn tide]

hey! making custom price modifiers, wanna check, do the modified prices to buy something include edits to profit made by professions?

(lemme know if i put that right-)

[lucid iron]

ah i just put it in the yml ok

i wonder if i can make it do it only when i make a tag (probably?)

it all works tho https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/actions/runs/21119599948

mod CI/CD era

[ivory plume]

Is there a benefit to releasing debug builds? I was just about to add --configuration Release to the default workflow.

[lucid mulch]

Tag runs of actions will have a different ref pattern you can check for

[gentle rose]

on a semi related note, is there a way for the monthly mod stats to track how many c# mods are not using ModBuildConfig? we've been noticing a rise recently (mostly from AI mods) so it would be interesting to keep an eye on

[lucid iron]

well i was excited and copied the instruction sample yml without looking

i do not release debug builds

some ppl do just cus they didnt bother with having separate

[ivory plume]

I think building Release in the workflow by default makes sense, and might improve performance. The author can always just tweak the workflow if they don't want that.

[uncut viper]

dont debug builds show line numbers in exceptions whereas release builds dont, or am i misremembering

[proud wyvern]

that's unrelated

[ivory plume]

I think the default .NET build configuration might (at least in old .NET versions). The mod build package configures PDB symbols for all builds though.

[lucid iron]

oh yea what is the path in the exception

atm i do this to hide my file system path in release

  <PropertyGroup Condition="'$(Configuration)' == 'Release'">
    <PathMap>$([System.IO.Path]::GetFullPath('$(MSBuildProjectDirectory)/..'))=mushymato/</PathMap>
  </PropertyGroup>

[proud wyvern]

that's a thing? :O

[ivory plume]

Oh, I didn't know that was an option. Could be useful to add that to the mod build package; we don't care where the build was on the original author's filesystem, so starting at <ModName>/ would be fine.

[lucid iron]

yay

the only downside is that u cant use debugger on a build that did this lol, hence release only

[proud wyvern]

oh

[ornate locust]

yessss Ramp 1 complete, Ridgeside festival maps basically just change the area I fixed to look like the original for vanilla and SVE

556 lines of content patcher to replace one staircase with a ramp, ~that's compatibility~

[gentle rose]

-# @ivory plume bumping this because I forgot to ping

I'd check myself but I can't actually download the mod dump repo because I don't have anything with remotely enough free storage space 😭

[proud wyvern]

it would be so weird for AI to recommend manual setup

[lucid mulch]

Are the ai mods even open source to know if they used modbuildconfig or not

[proud wyvern]

ModBuildConfig has been a thing for... pretty much forever, from the perspective of AI

[autumn tide]

helloo replying to make sure this can be found lol

[lucid mulch]

Iirc modifiers on sell price don't affect buy price

[ivory plume]

Not trivially; I think there'd be a lot of edge cases in trying to match mods to the mod build config package. It's also not really a good indication of AI code (e.g. the author may well create the tutorial mod or use a template, then add AI-generated code to it). The dump is public if anyone wants to try it out, but it's probably not useful or reliable enough to add it the main stats unfortunately.

[autumn tide]

gotchaaa okay

wanna add discounts to dwarf's shop when the player's roommated, but I don't want ppl to turn a profit on stuffs

[ornate locust]

well... alright the other ramps went really fast, guess it's just 2 now.

puts on hard hat

On the bright side, the only festival changes that touch it in vanilla are Christmas 1 and both egg festivals

and Halloween 2

where it gets spoodered

[gentle rose]

oh I didn’t mean it as an indicator of AI use, I was just curious about how many mods do it (I assume there were also a lot more mods that didn’t use it earlier on but adoption increased). AI use was just the context in which I first saw them (plus, I’m interested to know if AI is doing this on the basis of real mods or if it’s just the result of most c# code it’s trained on obviously not being for stardew). Interesting about the edge cases though, I kind of assumed without verifying that it would be a simple check but it sounds like it isn’t. Ty for replying though! If I ever am able to dig into the mod dump myself I’ll see if I can have a look

[cedar turtle]

So.. A cookie dispenser.
Basically, a recoloured Statue of Perfection, but it gives cookies instead.

I reckon I can just take the code from the statue and adjust the output ID and amount?
But how do I actually add the machine? I'm looking at the wiki but don't really get any smarter (nonzero chance I'm looking at the wrong place)
Ideally, the unlocking of the recipe would require having the regular cookie recipe from Evelyn. Also, for the scope creep, how would I change the output amount based on the day? E.g. more on Winter Star, or on the kids' birthdays.

[hallow prism]

machine requires both a bigcraftable, and machines rules

you can have a stack modifier which can use whatever condition you want, on machine side

and can either multiply, add, set or whatever the amount

[worldly wadi]

Hey guys can someone help me? For some reason, my npcs are not loading where I coded them to load, they are loading in the middle of the town at the same spot and are not following their schedule. Is this a compatibility issue or something related to the coding? Has anyone else faced the same problem? There are no red texts on smapi

[lucid iron]

did you give them a Home

[worldly wadi]

yes

[ornate trellis]

town is the standard fallback i think when your chosen one isnt working. best to provide log and json for people to take a look at(even if log says nothing much)

[worldly wadi]

How can I do that?

[ornate trellis]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[ornate trellis]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[worldly wadi]

One sec

Can I send it here?

[latent mauve]

Use those links for smapi.io/log and smapi.io/json to upload your console log and JSON files, and share the links to them here.

(we use those sites to make it easier to read and not have giant blocks of code in the chat)

[worldly wadi]

https://smapi.io/log/c1c50ec5c3274916a7079e0a8c781ac8
Here. My mod is called Tales of the harpy town

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 10 (10.0.19045.0), with 47 C# mods and 70 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[latent mauve]

Failed loading asset 'assets/Characters/Anahi/Dialogue/MarriageDialogue.json' from SMAPI\cheshiresatelier.thtexpansion: the JSON file is invalid.

Can you share the link to the JSON for the MarriageDialogue patch?

A lot of your JSON files are throwing errors in the log for your mod, so if you can share your content.json (and any Included JSON files), that would help

[worldly wadi]

one sec

Is it okay to send the whole mod here?

[latent mauve]

You CAN if it's your mod, but you are more likely to get faster help if you just share the JSON file links rather than the entire mod

Currently it's your dialogue, marriage dialogue, Items.json and maps.json that seem to have immediate errors

maps.json will likely be why your NPC schedule isn't working, as the error seems to be that it can't add a warp, so you might not be adding an NPC-compatible warp (which is a Warp or NPCWarp map property, not the same thing as an Action Warp tile property) correctly.

[worldly wadi]

I'll send it here one sec

Imma test smth one sec

[eager tree]

does anyone know if it's possible to add animated texture to loosesprits? i want to add an animated texture to the parrot platform

[scarlet warren]

Hey weird question, but is there a way for one of my custom farms to forcibly change where Stardew Valley Expanded's nexus portal is placed?

[worldly wadi]

How can I fix the warp error?

[soft lance]

[brittle pasture]

you can animate any texture sections with SpaceCore

look into its documentation

[brittle pasture]

sure, it'd be a bunch of map patches conditioned on "player has this farm type"

what's your goal

[scarlet warren]

some of my mods move the warp totem location

[brittle pasture]

though isnt the nexus' entrance in the backwoods

[scarlet warren]

Id like to think I could add a line like, "if havemod sve, place warp nexus at xy instead"

[scarlet warren]

You unlock a fast portal to your nexus on the farm

and its set to be where the farm totem puts you

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah i forgot about that

you can just follow what SVE's custom farms does probably

[scarlet warren]

Oh? One of their custom farms have a unique spot?

I havent tried any of them since they're all replacers, and I use my own T.T

[brittle pasture]

all of vanilla + SVE's farms put the nexus warp point near the vanilla totem, while if you're playing another custom farm it puts the warp on the grandpa's shed map

SVE does have a config option that allows the user to specify a custom on-farm warp point

[eager tree]

can anyone help me with why I'm not able to animate the parrot platform with spacecore? i'm unsure what i'm doing wrong
(this is an included file in the content.json)

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/1687eb09fe0241019321bff502e7cc01

[brittle pasture]

so how SpaceCore's feature works is that you have to specify the exact area that the game uses (ie. you can't animate the entire texture)

so if the image has 4 segments that are used separately you need entries for each of them

[eager tree]

ohhhh makes sense, thank you

[brittle pasture]

in this case for the main platform there are 2 rectangles: (0, 0 ,48, 68) and (48, 0, 48, 68)

(x, y, width, height)

the shadow is (48, 73, 48, 32)

the debris in the bottom left doesnt look like it's used

[eager tree]

thank you so much!!

you have no idea how many hours i spent trying to make this work 😭 this helps a lot, truly

[red heart]

Is this an ok channel to share mod ideas?

[vernal crest]

For a mod you're planning to make?

[red heart]

Yeah

I had it today and am planning on doing it in my free time

[mellow laurel]

hi @lucid iron something is exploding with HMK and Mirren (it was a phone call), I reported it there and they said it's on your end: https://smapi.io/log/9665e67c588548808847305af6bc72db

game didn't crash, just much red and I closed out and stopped answering the phone after restarting. (just like irl)

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 191 C# mods and 373 content packs.

[vernal crest]

Then yes :)

[pale river]

i dunno, I found sprites in tilesheet

oh you mean the colour over the screen when it rains I thought you meant the rain was the rectangle drawn over and over again for some reason, sorry for the random ping

[tiny zealot]

don't worry about it. the particle effects when farmer eats/drinks something are drawn using a particular white pixel in the moon on cursors.png

[lucid iron]

null awareness

[mellow laurel]

so fast and now log menu is mad about the phone call instead but I assume that's on their end? either way ty

[lucid iron]

well idk why the speaker is null...

that seems kinda weird

[cedar turtle]

Thanks. I think I'll come back to asking what this means exactly tomorrow. I'm too tired for making mods now.

[nimble karma]

Anyone know if it’s possible to give x object the ability to keep soil around it watered like a river would?

I know there was an old Wetlands mod on a Korean site for 1.5 but I don’t know if that’s still a thing

[calm nebula]

a building yes

[brittle pasture]

MMAP has a "treat furniture has having tile property" feature

so you can make furniture that has a 'Water'

[brave fable]

a hint for tomorrow, the 'bigcraftable' is the object you hold, and the 'machine' is the rules for what the object creates, which are separate assets and edits

[cedar turtle]

Mhmm. I figured. I was more planning on asking how it all works :)

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/37017

[ivory plume]

(For anyone interested in the automated mod builds, here's the announcement post with more info:

• Automated builds for SMAPI (C#) mods: now in preview)

[nimble karma]

hmm, I wonder if you can put this under an existing item or put a usually non-water thing over the tile

[lucid iron]

well it's a path so it does what paths do

[nimble karma]

Hmm, interesting

The reason I’m asking is because the first original mod I have planned is a tree that usually lives partially in water on coastlines

So I’m trying to brainstorm ways to have it be in water (if that’s possible)

I mean, I might just have to put some on the coast of the beach and say good enough lol

[pale river]

😭 woww that's really surprising

how are bridges coded? Since they're buildings on the map

[brave fable]

no particular code, just very particular tiles used in very particular places with the appropriate Passable and Water tile properties

in some places, some invisible Buildings tiles bordering as well

[ornate locust]

HECK

FOUR, George goes up FOUR staircases to get to the festivals in Ridgeside

I forgot the bus access was a staircase

[ivory plume]

(George doesn't forget arm day.)

[autumn tide]

(also as a disabled person I love that you're making the valley accessible )

[lucid mulch]

I mean in vanilla george would need to solve staircases in some capacity to get to the commmunity centre

[autumn tide]

i like to headcanon that george can teleport

like the wizard

[ornate locust]

I'm putting ramps there too

so Alex doesn't have to lift his whole grandpa and wheelchair over his head to get him up there

which is what I imagine

[lucid mulch]

what I'm hearing is a C# pathfinding mod that makes it so george can't path on staircase tiles and routes via ramps instead

[autumn tide]

teleporting is more fun

[ornate locust]

I just like the image of Alex with his grandpa held over his head, nyooming around like he's playing Sandrock or something where you can hold a whole building over your head

[lucid mulch]

Extra points for doing the grumpy emotes, wizard teleporting in, then teleporting them both to the other side of the staircase and wizard teleporting out

[autumn tide]

heh an event where that happens would be fun

[lucid mulch]

though lore wise I feel like george wouldn't appreciate it based on the letter event with penny

[autumn tide]

yeah that's why he teleports himself

[vernal crest]

This is making me want to make a mod where George and my farmer commiserate over the difficulties of accessibility in the valley

[autumn tide]

he's got one of those staff thingies

[ornate locust]

Alex: Grandpa, it's doing me a favor, I gotta practice lifting! PUPPY EYES

[autumn tide]

the urge to add every rep i can to sdv-

[lucid mulch]

have a special order with Maru to upgrade georges wheelchair to have hover/jet propulsion for staircases

[autumn tide]

YES

[inner adder]

I like to ask of y’all infinite wisdom of code: how can I bypass the tutorial fishing mini game (not catching any fish) in the current version?

[autumn tide]

THIS IS PERFECTION

[ornate locust]

Like Professor Xavier's from the X-Men cartoon!

[autumn tide]

best idea- ever

[lucid mulch]

newwho dalek elevate

[ornate locust]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/spiderman-animated/images/1/14/678908790089.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20160123062929

nyooom

[autumn tide]

hm, could you clarify? there are easy fishing mods that bypass the minigame if that's what you mean

[autumn tide]

omg one se

sec*

[inner adder]

No, I want to bypass the tutorial catch (first fish) mini game by somehow not catching a fish

[lucid mulch]

if you don't catch any fish then you don't see the tutorial

[inner adder]

Right, thing is, I want to catch a void mayo (which I tried), but it seems like I’m unable get one unless I pass that tutorial catch first. Unless I’m wrong on this (wiki have no info on this unless I’m blind)

[uncut viper]

are you asking for a mod you are trying to make?

[lucid mulch]

but in terms of actual code to ensure the tutorial never happens, just have the player.fishCaught net collection has something in it

[inner adder]

No, is for a challenge

[vernal crest]

Then you are in the wrong channel :)

[inner adder]

Okay, what count as a fish but not a fish

[autumn tide]

YESS

[inner adder]

I wish another channel can have an answer

[vernal crest]

This channel is for making mods. If you want info that is not related to mods, head to #stardew-valley. If you want mod info, head to #modded-stardew.

[ornate locust]

Is there a mail token for the railroad being accessible or something? I swore I got a mail about it, but I'm blanking on that, and I want to make the ramp there only show up when the rock's gone

or was that a different rock problem caused by Joja that had the mail

[autumn tide]

(heh please put this in your nexus media for your mod /lh)

hm, earthquake for that one i think...

[vernal crest]

Yeah the railroad is the earthquake in the night I think. The mines access has the mail.

[autumn tide]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Comprehensive_Mail_Flag_List

[vernal crest]

You can make it date related so it doesn't apply until the day after the earthquake

Ok I must leave now, my beat sabers need me

[autumn tide]

godspeed Aba 🫡

[ornate locust]

ah, that makes sense

[royal stump]

I thought there was technically a flag, but the mountain itself basically just looks at Game1.stats.DaysPlayed >= 31

[opaque cobalt]

is it okay to have two files editing an NPCs beach outfit? I have a beach and snorkeling outfit for a character and trying to set up as can have A, B, or A/B (random chance which one is used on a given day). Slowly getting back to understanding how to do basic appearance modding as I make the Mk II version of a seasonal mod
https://smapi.io/json/none/b944b34186294e91aae4c3962f7a0759

[ornate locust]

so if I did a "DaysPlayed = 31" for a map patch condition, would it remain after that, or an I over thinking this

[calm nebula]

so....I personally think you're overthinking all of it, as boulder will be over ramp anyways

[royal stump]

sounds like that would only effect the exact day and then be undone next time the map loads

but yeah, might not be necessary if it's under the boulder

[calm nebula]

BUT if you were to want that, I recommend instead doing smth like

1. Make trigger action look at LocationIsAcessible

[ornate locust]

you know, you're right, I should just try to stick it in there and see how it looks

[calm nebula]

(or whatever the fuck it's called.)

[royal stump]

I'm not familiar with the exact conditions/etc personally, but yes, you can use EditImage multiple times on the same target in a CP file

[calm nebula]

(sorry, I am tired and yelling at the gods in the sky the people who have not, as of the 18th of Jan, provided me my new health insurance cards)

[ornate locust]

oh man big mood

Been fighting with insurance over the whole holiday season

Just imagine that scene in your head of Mr Incredible throwing his boss at the insurance company through a wall

well, like three walls

[opaque cobalt]

Okay thank you. I wasn't sure quite how to do it as beach was seperate from regular appearance stuff

[royal stump]

🤝 I was on the phone for several hours last month because someone mistook nexus's company for an unreported job of mine

rather, the paypal payments for me working there (in england ig)

[opaque cobalt]

Or, actually, I guess the better question is does editing the beach outfit need to be done via editimage or would it work without issue using appearance modding. When referencing Seasonal Cute Characters, they have it as an editimage and then an outfit marked as island attire. Checking the "Tutorial: Adding Seasonal Outfits via Appearances" did not provide much illumination on this particular instance

[brave fable]

if you mean the ginger island spritesheets, those don't use appearances and have some hardcoded behaviours

you'd likely need to use editimage on the Beach assets

[calm nebula]

(they can use appearances)

[royal stump]

I think in 1.6+ you can add an appearance entry with IsIslandAttire?
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Appearance_.26_sprite

[brave fable]

is that so

[calm nebula]

oui

[brave fable]

it is so.

[calm nebula]

blueberry how's the healthcare situation in Austalia

[brave fable]

getting more expensive every year

[compact mountain]

Hello! Is there anyway to tweak this mod to have the noises it adds apply to dogs instead of cats?
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/17815?tab=description

[opaque cobalt]

Just to double check, beach sprites are only used on ginger island, so I just need to mark them as island attire? Haven't actually played a save in so long I don't remember where all sprites get used

[brittle pasture]

open up content.json, change the mention of Cat to Dog

[compact mountain]

Huh. Thank you! :DD

[shut edge]

it's cool when it's that easy

[compact mountain]

It really is! \o/

[elfin kindle]

Randomly spotted this but speaker is null as to not reveal the name or portrait, its been working fine for other players ^^"

[lucid egret]

hey guys im working on adding compat for GNMT (using this guide https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_Gender_Neutrality_Mod_Tokens_(GNMT)_Compatibility ) and I figured out the normal dialogue part fine but i was wondering if its possible to switch out single lines of dialogue in events using tokens, as opposed to duplicating events just to edit a few lines

[devout otter]

Hello! Which event do you want to edit?

[lucid egret]

Events for adventurer's guild expanded

[devout otter]

Oh. So you already have the standard event in your mod, and then you want to patch in the GNMT version, with a When GNMT is installed conditional?

[tiny zealot]

one way you can swap out a single line is by using a config setting token or a dynamic token as part of the key in your use of the i18n token

so if your event calls for e.g. {{i18n:myevent.line4.{{GenderMode}}}} and then you have defined GenderMode based on something involving GNMT

[lucid egret]

Ah I see

[ornate locust]

yeah I'm gonna need a condition on that one

[tiny zealot]

in the i18n you would want to define lines for all the values that token can have (or use defaultkey)

[ornate locust]

this one's working though

[lucid egret]

Okay I got it! sorry it's been a while since I've dealt with code in general. Thank you both

oh wow i just realised it's literally in the guide at the very end

[half badge]

how would i go about patching a sprite mod myself? i want to make portrait accurate sprites compatable with befriend marlon and gunter

the sprite mod's sheets obviously don't account for the way befriend m&g allow them to move around so their walk cycles just default to showing this white part

should i edit the modded sprites from the sprite mod, or try and edit the sprites the NPC mod uses to match the sprite mod?

and then how would i make something that overrides my sprite mod with my edits

obviously all this uses CP

[devout otter]

Befriend Marlon and Gunther has already patches over the vanilla sprite. So assuming your mod would not work without Befriend Marlon and Gunther, what your mod needs to do is patch over that mod's version of the sprite.

[devout otter]

Is this from your sprite mod for vanilla Marlon? What's your patch code for that?

[half badge]

i have no idea what that means, im totally new to this sorry. im editing* befriend gunther & marlon* 's sprites as we speak

i guess im just asking how to make a patch that does the "Target replace" thing

to override both mods

so that my patch out-prioritizes them both

[devout otter]

Aa, so the portrait accurate Marlon is another mod?

[half badge]

yes, i have a sprite mod and the mod that changes the mechanics

im editing the NPC mod sprites that add extra animatins ect to match my sprite mod

[devout otter]

Basically you just do the same patch the portrait accurate mod does, and then in the manifest.json of your own mod you put a false the dependency for both it and Befriend Marlon and Gunther. That should ensure your mod is prioritized over them.

Can you link to the sprite mod?

[half badge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/17289

[half badge]

not even sure how i'd write that. can you reccomend any youtube tutorials?

[devout otter]

So try opening the content.json of that mod.

[half badge]

done

[devout otter]

Search for "Marlon". You should see a group of 3 lines.

[half badge]

the action load ones?

[devout otter]

Yep.

That's the patch that edits Marlon's sprite. That's basically all you need for your own mod's content.json. Just change Load to EditImage.

[half badge]

so if i make a seperate folder with its own manifest and content with just the two replacement sprites and just the two commands that "edit image" it will override the load command?

[devout otter]

Yes. An EditImage would always applies over a Load.

[half badge]

ill look up the other mmod setup files myself

awesome thanks!

[devout otter]

Just make sure to have a dependency of BM&G on your manifest.

[half badge]

im totally new to all forms of programmin ect this is so fun to learn

[half badge]

ill also look this up

[weary sail]

“assets/sprite.png”

[woeful lintel]

after double-checking that the asset is really at this path, can you share your log saying that the asset doesn't exist?

[wicked harbor]

Hello all! I am trying my hand at making a mod to actually upload and running into a small issue. I've tried googling it but haven't had any luck. Hoping to someone here can help me. I've been making personal mods for yeras now but mostly just making my own retextures and replacing the png files in mods I already downloaded. I am trying to load my own mod to test but keep getting the error that content.json can't be found but it exists in the folder. I've tried rewriting it multiple times to the same error. I am just trying to create a retexture mod for SVE premium barn and coop.

[hallow prism]

verify it's indeed a json in term of extension

windows usually hides the extension format and you end with a content.json.txt

[heavy pewter]

I cant seem to find the bool field or property to use as condition here, i want to check if Robin is busy, can anyone help

public void CarpenterMenu()
        {
            if (//here)
            {
                Game1.drawObjectDialogue("Robin is busy.");
                return;
            }
            Game1.currentLocation.ShowConstructOptions("Robin");
        }

[wicked harbor]

Yeah, I am using text edit on Mac and make sure the file is plain text and saved as .json. Even in my finder it shows up as Kind>JSON.

[brave fable]

Game1.netWorldState.Value.builders.Contains("Robin")?

[vernal crest]

!json Can you share your content.json and also a screenshot of the file sitting in the mod folder?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[brave fable]

ideally showing all columns in the file explorer, particularly Type

or whatever the equivalent is on mac

[vernal crest]

Mac doesn't usually hide file extensions, does it?

[hallow prism]

thanks! the process of finding what's wrong is a bit tedious so details are really helpful

we'll need a log too next

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[vernal crest]

It's generated a config file, so at some point it's been able to read the content.json

[wicked harbor]

Here is the content file. It's my first try and I tried following the wiki. I am started this test mod just changing the barn first. I am attempting to make a seasonal mod.

[vernal crest]

Please use the json website in future :) I linked it above

[wicked harbor]

Oh sorry, didn;t see the link.

[vernal crest]

You have accidentally closed your content.json way too early. That closing curly bracket above the changes line should not be there.

Nope, ignore me

Ok the curly bracket should be there, but there needs to be a comma after it

I recommend getting Notepad++, Sublime Text, or Visual Studio Code (NOT Visual Studio Community) so your text editor will actually warn you of this stuff

[wicked harbor]

The last closing one?

I will download one of those now and try to rewrite teh content file again. Thanks.

[vernal crest]

The one above the Changes line

[wicked harbor]

I added the comma after that bracket just to test it. Still getting the same error though. I was initially trying to close the the opening bracket from the third line.

I will try to rewrite it all in Visual Code to see if there's any other errors.

[vernal crest]

Just copy and paste it in

[wicked harbor]

👍

Just pasted it in.

[vernal crest]

It has no errors other than that one, so if you're getting an error that there's no content.json, I think you have another issue, like that you have forgotten to save the file or are editing the wrong one.

[wicked harbor]

I left the comma you recommended and it looks correct but got an error for the comma after the bracket directly above it.

[vernal crest]

Like Lumi said, it would help a lot if we could actually see your log

Because seeing the exact error message and the context from the rest of the log makes a big difference

[wicked harbor]

Oh I will use the link provided now!

[vernal crest]

You put the comma on line 8?

[wicked harbor]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d4dd2e5665c242959c5416dea971de67

that is the original file, unchanged.

[vernal crest]

Okay, and your log?

[wicked harbor]

Well the file after adding the comma you suggested.

I copy and pasted it into Visual Code and it looks to have adde an comma after the bracket in line 7.

[vernal crest]

Oh, I am just now parsing what you said here. A warning about trailing commas? Ignore that - we can use trailing commas in Stardew so they're not errors.

[vernal crest]

Are you missing a word here?

[wicked harbor]

Sorry, I think I am bit tired and typing a bit too last fast and lazily. Can you clarify your question? MIssing a word where?

[vernal crest]

Oh, no, you aren't missing a word. I thought "Well the file after adding the comma you suggested." was a reply to my request for a log, but it's meant as an addition to your "that is the original file, unchanged." sentence.

[wicked harbor]

Yes, Sorry. I am pressing enter to fast. Need to slow down and reread my messages and add what is needed before posting.

[vernal crest]

You should be able to check the file in game again now.

[wicked harbor]

do you recommend I keep the comma added in line 7?

[blissful panther]

It's technically invalid, but it won't cause any problems for CP.

[vernal crest]

I already responded to that, you must have missed it.

A warning about trailing commas? Ignore that - we can use trailing commas in Stardew so they're not errors.

I used to get rid of my trailing commas but my number one error ended up being that I'd forgotten to add the comma when I put a new item in, so now I embrace the trailing comma lol

!jsonc

Darn it what's the jsonc command

[blissful panther]

!vscjsonc

[vernal crest]

!vscjsonc You can follow these instructions to make it stop complaining about the comments (though there's a different trick to deal with the trailing commas)

[ocean sail]

How to make VSCode not scream at json comments

In Visual Studio Code, go to File -> Preferences -> Settings, then search for "associations", and in the "Associations" setting, click the Add Item button to add an item with key *.json and value jsonc (see image).
If you are making a content pack for Content Patcher, you should consider using its json schema so that VSCode can tell you if your patches are valid, you simply have to add

"$schema": "https://smapi.io/schemas/content-patcher.json"

at the start of your content.json file.

To use this command, type !vscjsonc.

[wicked harbor]

I tried running Stardew. Still getting the error.

[vernal crest]

Whoops sorry DH!

Then we return to: we need your log, please

[wicked harbor]

I really appreciate you taking the time to help me figure this out. https://smapi.io/log/02e2f293a06149ea943fb3d4e50d07a3

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 26.1.0, with 8 C# mods and 11 content packs.

[vernal crest]

According to your screenshot of VSC, your content.json is not in /Volumes/Crucial P310 4T/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Stardew Valley/Contents/MacOS/Mods/<mod folder>, it's in /Volumes/Crucial P310 4T/My_Mods/Visual Code. Did you make sure to save it into the mod folder?

[wicked harbor]

Oh I didn't save the VC file to the mods folder becuase I didn't make any changes since you said the trailing comma was okay. I can move it to that folder now but it's the same file as above.

[vernal crest]

Can you take a screenshot of the mod folder again, but show the entire filepath in the screenshot?

[wicked harbor]

I moved the content.json file created in VC to the mods folder and overwrite what was there.

[vernal crest]

Hmmm I was helping someone the other day with a mystery missing i18n folder and the issue was that Mac doesn't strip out trailing spaces. Can you make sure your file is definitely called content.json with no spaces anywhere at all in the file name? It doesn't look like that'd be the issue but we might as well make sure.

[wicked harbor]

Yes, I've had that issue before but no blank spaces here.

[vernal crest]

Can you show a screenshot of inside the manifest?

[vernal crest]

I...do not know what is going on

Can you put a period in front of your content.json file and copy another mod's content.json in to the folder? Doesn't matter which mod, I just want to see if it's going to recognise it

[wicked harbor]

Okay so I copy and pasted the content.json file for the Alternative Bus Stop into my mod's folder and tried launching the game and got the exact same error that the content file could not be found.

So does that mean that the problem is with the folder itself somehow?

[gentle rose]

you tried again at this point and it still wasn’t working, right?

[wicked harbor]

Yes, still no dice.

[vernal crest]

I am baffled, because it just shouldn't recognise the mod at all if it's the folder, but it's clearly reading the manifest.

Try going the other way - copy your content.json file into another mod's folder and check if that works

[blissful panther]

Actually, I might have it...

Okay, nope, but I am heavily invested in this now...

[brave fable]

did you share a log file at all with the error?

[vernal crest]

Yes: #making-mods-general message

And we've got screenshots showing the right filepath, showing the file type, showing the content of the content.json. I'm not sure what I'm missing

Maybe this is a weird Mac permissions thing?

[wicked harbor]

Ok, I hid my mod folder and hif the content folder in Alternative Bust Stop folder then copy and pasted my content file to that folder.

[vernal crest]

I think I saw someone comment on a Nexus mod saying that one file in a mod they downloaded was not appearing because of perms issues, plus Audri often comes across it in tech support

[wicked harbor]

I now get this error.

[gentle rose]

one last request if it isn’t figured out: unhide the mod folder, make sure the content file is the latest version, and restart your computer. then try starting stardew again (just in case there’s any weirdness there)

[vernal crest]

Ok that's a good sign, because it means the config.json that was generated from the original content.json for Alternative Bus Stop is not finding matching fields in the content.json - but it's not saying the content.json doesn't exist at all

[wicked harbor]

I can definitely try that. It will take me a few minutes.

[gentle rose]

(if it still doesn’t work, a new log would be good just in case)

[wicked harbor]

Okay! Restarted my Mac, relaunched Steam, and restarted Stardew and still getting the same error. For whatever reason, it just doesn't see that file when added to my mod folder.

New log from after restart https://smapi.io/log/cca8f6eefc2c4d40874e01897f480bc9

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 26.1.0, with 8 C# mods and 11 content packs.

[brave fable]

dare i ask what if you just make a new folder and a new content.json and copy the contents of the file over

[vernal crest]

Just checking back here when you copied the file from ABS into your mod folder. Did you copy the json inside the content.json across to your content.json, or did you copy the file itself over into your mod folder?

[wicked harbor]

Just the file itself.

[gentle rose]

I’m with blueberry on the new folder thing

[vernal crest]

Okay, good, thanks. I recommend following blueberry's suggestion of making a brand new folder with a new content.json and then copy the json inside your content.json across.

[wicked harbor]

I tried this like 6 times before finding this discord. That is a path I have exhausted. Trust me.

[vernal crest]

Did you definitely make a completely new content.json file?

You did not move the file?

With a completely different folder name?

(Sorry to be so pedantic about it, but this is a seriously puzzling problem.)

[wicked harbor]

I will try again. I am not against anything at this point. I even tried just opening another mod's else's already created content file (thinking it was a permissions) and erasing everything there and copay pasting my own code into it. Still got the same error. Even though the mod works with it's own code with no issues.

[vernal crest]

Can you zip up the mod folder and send it to me, please? Feel free to DM it if you want to keep it private. (Also if you're not comfortable doing so, you can of course say no)

I want to try it in my game

[blissful panther]

Okay, nuclear option time. This will print out a list of all JSON files in the directory of any pack that fails to load, and the contents of said files.

[brave fable]

okay, nuclear option time. delet the folder

[blissful panther]

[11:45:13 ERROR Content Patcher] Could not load content pack '(NPC) TEST MOD': content pack has no content.json file.
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher] Files in this content pack: 
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher] File: /home/alan/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Stardew Valley 1.6.15/Mods/[CP] Test/manifest.json
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher] Contents:
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher] {
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]    "Name": "[NPC] TEST MOD",
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]    "Author": "DecidedlyHuman",
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]    "Description": "TEST MOD.",
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]    "Version": "3.2.3",
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]    "UniqueID": "DH.WeirdBug.TestMod",
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]    "ContentPackFor": {
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]       "UniqueID": "Pathoschild.ContentPatcher"
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]    },
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]    "UpdateKeys": [
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]       "Nexus:00000"
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]    ],
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher] }
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher] File: /home/alan/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Stardew Valley 1.6.15/Mods/[CP] Test/dffdscontent.json
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher] Contents:
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher] {
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher]     "Format": "2.0.0",
[11:45:13 INFO  Content Patcher] /*
...

Just like this.

This should at least give us a definitive answer for what's actually in the folder it's trying to load.

[wicked harbor]

Do I just add that unzipped folder to my mod folder and replace the Content Patcher that is already there?

[vernal crest]

Well, I just ran the file that you sent right at the start and it's working fine

[blissful panther]

Just replace the existing Content Patcher with this for now.

[wicked harbor]

It's like going to the doctor and not being able to reproduce the issue that brought you there.

What could I possibly be doing wrong?

[blissful panther]

It's a real mystery! Just install that custom version of Content Patcher, run the game, and upload the log so something is hopefully uncovered.

[vernal crest]

Your mistake is in owning a Mac

[wicked harbor]

Okay here is the new log with the new content patcher provided. https://smapi.io/log/9fc23ccd62e54ed3993711f177630a0b

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 26.1.0, with 8 C# mods and 11 content packs.

[vernal crest]

I don't have SVE for your premium barn texture to apply to, so I switched the first patch to a Load and you've got the FromFile fields incorrect - the underscore is in the wrong place

[blissful panther]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[vernal crest]

Does the fact that the mod folder has an unnecessary space at the end of it matter?

Oooh

[blissful panther]

I wouldn't have thought so...

[vernal crest]

It's SMAPI reading the manifest but CP reading the content.json

So they might have different parsing rules

A space at the end of an i18n folder made CP think the folder didn't exist

[blissful panther]

At this point, it's worth trying anything.

[wicked harbor]

Just realized I added the wrong assets to the zip I gave you but wouldn't the error then be that it could not find the png not that it couldn't find the whole content.json?

[vernal crest]

Yeah, my comment was so that when we do finally get this working you know what's up with the error it'll give you lol

Try removing that trailing space from the end of your folder name

[blissful panther]

I need to step away for a good few hours now, but please ping me if anything happens!

[wicked harbor]

OMFG!! All that just becuase of a freaking trailing space in the *folder name? I am no longer getting the error. The mod isn't working but no error in terminal at least. Good lord!

[vernal crest]

I AM A GOD!

[wicked harbor]

I'm sorry I put ya'll through all this for a freaking trailing space. Most anti-climatic resolve ever.

[vernal crest]

We are extremely lucky that I encountered this problem just a couple of days ago

[dire kestrel]

macos

[vernal crest]

Do not stress, stuff like this happens! I am sorry that your first attempt at making a mod of your own was so frustrating!

[gentle rose]

we all bow down

[vernal crest]

And that DH wrote that helpful Content Patcher addition! Without it, I wouldn't have noticed the trailing space.

[wicked harbor]

Still have to figure out getting it to actually work now that it loads. Lol. So first attempt still not complete.

[gentle rose]

the special build of content patcher has me thinking, a debug tool for things like this would be nice

[wicked harbor]

Hopefully that is less frustrating.

[vernal crest]

It was the trailing space! Thank you so much for your custom CP build

[wicked harbor]

You guys are awesome! This is the most help I've gotten with anything since I decided to make the mod. Other forums are really dry. Glad I found this discord.

[brave fable]

if there's a mac troubleshooting page for authors this should be in bold haha

[wicked harbor]

I got it working! Mod is showing up correctly. I used console commands to skip through the seasons and it's all working. Woohoo. Now just gotta refine it a bit and then upload to Nexus mods. Thanks again everyone.

[blissful panther]

Found the "bug" in SMAPI at least, potentially. I had five minutes to come back and couldn't help myself.

Not sure why this would only apply on MacOS, though...

At least this might be the problem. Not guaranteed.

No, this shouldn't be it... I'm going to dig more later!

[vernal crest]

SMAPI was reading it, it was CP that wasn't

Because SMAPI could see the manifest

I don't know about Linux, but windows trims trailing spaces so you can't have them.

[blissful panther]

Yeah, but CP reads it through SMAPI, which is why it gets fun.

If nobody has by time I get back, I want to do a deep dive on this, because it's weird.

[lucid mulch]

ContentPack.ReadJsonFile<T>(string path) uses PathUtilities.NormalizePath, but the manifest scanning logic as part of SMAPI.Toolkit only attempts to use PathUtilities.NormalizePath after it tries directly first when its recursively scanning folders to find mods.

so My Awesome Folder /manifest.json would work but I think My Awesome Folder /ManIFeST.jSon would fail as it'll trigger the case insensitive logic to trigger containing the trim

on windows trailing spaces aren't a thing (or the underlying windows apis are willing to silently correct for it and do a similar trimming operation), though Linux allows it perfectly fine (and presumably macos too, as its at least closer to unix filesystem despite being case insenstive)

[calm nebula]

It's because ending a path with a space isnt valid on windows

And is valid on mac

I was pretty mad when I found out aboit this (2yrs ago?)

[lucid mulch]

the trim has been in smapi since sept 2020 https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/commit/7580f87029ac9f778ec632c7ccaed489d7ca1364

[calm nebula]

Iirc this isnt the issue

Iirc is in the actual path api for dotnet

[lucid mulch]

the trim feels like it should only be a thing on windows and just.. don't on other platforms

[vernal crest]

I don't think I'm following, because why would smapi need to trim whitespace out of windows filepaths when windows itself already does so?

[lucid mulch]

though it is possible to cause folders to exist in windows with trailing spaces, but you can't actually cd into them via command line

[gentle rose]

it’s possible the issue pops up when copying files from linux to windows? otherwise I’m also confused about why santisation is even necessary

[lucid mulch]

explorer can handle it fine, but could just be on the long list of ancient forbidden things like 8.3 filenames or stuff like COM

[vernal crest]

I just tried making a folder with a trailing space on windows and it immediately trimmed it

[lucid mulch]

I made the folder while in wsl

[vernal crest]

Yeah I just did it through explorer

[lucid mulch]

I did earlier tests with windows mkdir and it also trimmed

but it trimmed in the same way cd is trying to trim

[vernal crest]

So it's possible to have trailing spaces on windows but you have basically got to be really trying lol

[lucid mulch]

though I'm also giving it an extra test because my F drive is ReFS instead of NTFS

though same thing happens on ntfs

[red heart]

Here's a mod I came up with a few days ago and started to create: It allows your kids to grow up into adults/late teens. Maybe they could be friendable NPCs with heart events. You could watch them grow up, go to school with Jas and Vincent, maybe date a romanceable NPC for a few seasons. Maybe if you have 2 kids, one can go off to Zuzu city for work (Possibly come back to Pelican Town on weekends so that you can still increase friendship with them). The other could stay in Pelican Town and possibly find a job in town or be a farmhand on your farm.

I spent last night creating a few different sprites, but I have absolutely no idea how to code. Does anyone know any Youtube tutorials or anything to help me learn?

[fading walrus]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[fading walrus]

Sounds like you want the NPC section, though I suggest looking into existing child frameworks that let them grow up as well

[vernal crest]

For growing up into adults, I think that'd be either HMK or custom C#?

But maybe something like LittleNPCs does allow kids to grow fully into adults, I don't know

I always quit before my kids are old enough to leave toddlerhood anyway

[worldly wadi]

Hey I modded my npc to be marriageable, but she doesn't appear as single, what should I do? (About the schedule thing, I was able to come up with a solution so I'll ignore this for a while)

[royal stump]

share your CP content.json file with the link from https://smapi.io/json for reference

(or the relevant one if you're using Include, etc)

[plucky mirage]

hello! been a long time since i chatted here

i was told to come here as i am looking to make my actual first mod

currently reading the documentation to see if it would be even possible to do with the CP framework as i do not know coding

[red heart]

Is there such thing as a mix of both or do those have to be separate mods?

[worldly wadi]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d29344f4189a4661beb4ceda464a5e4b

[lucid iron]

Well if you want to use some kind of framework (littlenpc or have more kids) you'd be making a content patcher mod

If you have some additional feature that the frameworks don't cover then you can make your own C# component yeah

[worldly wadi]

I can send the dispositions file if you need

[royal stump]

that'll help, the dispositions file would be the one that decides whether they're dateable

[worldly wadi]

https://smapi.io/json/none/2d775a8e884a414489260bf24e61b100

The broken npc is the third one, Bebel

[vernal crest]

Please give your NPCs unique names

[devout otter]

For "growing up into adult and move out" part, I assume HMK can emulate that with some conditional and moving the Home away from Farm adjacent?

[vernal crest]

They should have your mod id as a prefix for their internal name

[worldly wadi]

Oh ok got it

[vernal crest]

Bebel is set to "can be romanced": false

[lucid iron]

Yeah it's possible to just make the Child always in NPC mode after some point

[vernal crest]

So she is not marriagable

[lucid iron]

And move their Home to somewhere else

https://github.com/Mushymato/HaveMoreKids/blob/main/docs/002-extensions-game_state_queries.md#mushymatohavemorekids_child_days_in_age-kididchildindex-age-minday-maxday

This one lets u define how long it takes for that to happen

[worldly wadi]

It's from before the farmer has seen an event

After the event, she's marriageable

Anahi also has that

But she works fine after

[vernal crest]

where is your patch that edits Anahi to make her marriagable after an event?

[worldly wadi]

It's on dispositions.

Unlock conditions

[vernal crest]

Unlock conditions are not the same as being romanceable

[royal stump]

that isn't how that works, you'd need "when" conditions specifically

[vernal crest]

That's whether the NPC is around at all

[worldly wadi]

Ooooooooh

[vernal crest]

Anahi is still not romanceable

[royal stump]

you've got two "Bebel" entries being added, but one just overwrites the other or gets ignored

[vernal crest]

You can use a GSQ in romanceable

Can't you? It's just a bool field

Oh I see I missed that Anahi's just always romanceable as soon as she is unlocked

[royal stump]

you can use CP tokens in bools (iirc), but no, GSQs would only work in specific string fields like UnlockConditions

but that field decides whether an NPC spawns at all, romance is just on/off unless you use When conditions to edit it

[devout otter]

So, step by step towards what you want. For the basics, I suggest reading up on this about Content Patcher, and this about the json format.

[vernal crest]

That's a bit rude that can socialise is a GSQ but can be romanced isn't

[royal stump]

being romanceable affects max hearts and such, so it's a bit more awkward to implement, I imagine

[vernal crest]

But being able to use tokens means you could use HasSeenEvent instead of needing a when condition

[devout otter]

And as you basically is creating new NPC (the children), you'd want to learn on how to create a basic NPC first: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC

[royal stump]

(not any weirder than turning it on/off as it is, but yeah)

[worldly wadi]

So, should I use "When"?

[devout otter]

Then, you can look into using a framework like Have More Kids to do the "children grow up" part.

[royal stump]

yeah, you'll want one default entry for your NPC, and then you could use "Fields" to change their romance field to "true" after the event

[worldly wadi]

I'm a bit lost aaaaaaaa

[worldly wadi]

Oh oki oki

[royal stump]

e.g. keep the first entry with romance = false, and remove the unlock condition
then have a second edit with CP's When condition for events and romance = true

[worldly wadi]

Oki oki I'll try that

Thank you! :D

[plucky mirage]

hi, i have a question; i never did this before and don't know coding so please bear with me!

i've spent a while reading the CP documentation and tokens, and have a rough outline of what i "should" do to get the effect i want. if i want to append text to an item's description, i should do the following:

1. i use an EditData action?
2. in it, i create a "When" token
3. "When" the player is hovering over the item, i input text i want into its description

is this correct? or even possible? thanks in advance

[lusty halo]

okay I solved the little issue I had with the new "Patchmode": "Mask" . I simply forgot that if the texture you want to replace has a black background in the original tilesheet, it has to be kept in the replacement file (as shown in the image) even with the new mode. Now I can finally start rearranging my files to update my mods.

[lucid iron]

Content Patcher doesn't update fast enough so no that's not what you want to do

[plucky mirage]

hi chu 😞

i'm trying to do what i said i shouldn't haha

[lucid iron]

Easier to just change description in general

[royal stump]

1 and 2 are correct, 3 is a bit off. Content Patcher edits some text files that always exist in the game, and Data/Objects is one of them. It has names, descriptions, etc for all the basic items. You can edit the description field there without any "When" and it'll always display your new text, for example.

[plucky mirage]

there is a HasCraftingRecipe token - i want to use it as a condition

[royal stump]

CP's "When" conditions update each in-game day by default, with the other options being "when the player moves between locations" and "when the in-game clock changes", so nothing particularly fast

[plucky mirage]

if the player does have a recipe, input the text, if not, say static text

[vernal crest]

Yes there is: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#player

That page lists all the Content Patcher tokens available

[royal stump]

that should be fine, though whether it's necessary depends on your exact goal

[plucky mirage]

yes that's what i'm saying

i'm on it

i am saying i want to use it

[vernal crest]

Oh sorry

I misread that as "is there a"

[plucky mirage]

no worries

[vernal crest]

And I was surprised you got the wording perfect xD

[plucky mirage]

my line of thinking (again, i'm no coder, so please excuse me) to achieve my effect was:

check if player is hovering over item i define -> check again if recipe is discovered -> if recipe discovered, say text i define -> if recipe not discovered, say other text

i don't know if any of this is feasible or correct to do

(with CP)

[vernal crest]

You can't check if a player is hovering with CP

[gentle rose]

we also generally advise not to increase the update rate too much unless you really need it, because if any other mods are editing the same asset, every single time your patch updates all of their patches have to rerun too which can cause pretty severe lag to build up

[plucky mirage]

so i can abandon the hover thing and just directly edit description i imagine

[vernal crest]

You can check if they have the recipe when the day starts, when they change location, and on time change (but don't)

A day started check would be fine for this I think

[royal stump]

a basic example would be something like this (though I'm not sure what IDs in the crafting recipe token should be)

{
    "Format": "2.9.0",
    "Changes": [
        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Objects",
            "Fields": {
                "Pizza": {
                    "Description": "Hi! You have the recipe!",
                }
            }
            "When": {
                "HasCraftingRecipe": "Recipe ID here"
            }
        }
    ]
}```
if your mod looks like this, CP will check each morning whether to override pizza's description with the new text, and update it if so

[plucky mirage]

but then, say you learn a new recipe from the TV - this would invalidate the item description

i don't know if i can NOT use a timed thing

[vernal crest]

Unless you think that them missing it would ruin everything, in which case location changed would be maybe possible

Why would learning a new recipe invalidate the item description?

[royal stump]

short of constantly checking with C#, some things just need to be on a delay

[plucky mirage]

because i want the item description to mention it is in a recipe - and if the player just learned the recipe, they'd have to wait until, say, the next day for the description to also update

isn't that unintuitive?

[vernal crest]

Yes, but not game breaking, unlike everybody using OnTimeChange in all their patches which is game breaking

[royal stump]

the game doesn't specifically expect item descriptions to change much, if at all, so there's no quick update process built in

[plucky mirage]

sure, ideally if i knew C# i'd do it with that haha

[lucid iron]

It can be but that's where u may wanna ditch content patcher and do it in C# yeah

[plucky mirage]

i don't know what a correct "delay" would be, maybe every minute?

[plucky mirage]

unfortunately i don't know any, hell you can see i struggle with just json lol

[gentle rose]

basically content patcher doesn’t update descriptions when they’re viewed, it updates when you update them. that means that you have to constantly be checking and re-updating the description just in case it will be seen, which you don’t want to do because it will mean constantly recalculating everything in Data/Objects, which you are very much not the only one changing

[gentle rose]

that is neither an option nor a good idea

[royal stump]

I mentioned earlier that with CP, your options "start of day", "player changed maps", and "every 10 minutes in-game"

[vernal crest]

And we are all saying "please do not use every ten minutes"

[royal stump]

but yeah, editing Data/Objects for that would cause some lag just for the sake of updating a description

[plucky mirage]

is "player changed maps" taxing?

[lucid iron]

What you can do in C# is

1. Still just do a description edit no problem with that, do so OnAssetRequested
2. Invalidate the description asset when player obtains a recipe

[vernal crest]

Even location changed is overkill, imo

[royal stump]

it is less noticeable because there's the slower fade-out as they switch locations

leaving it as a next-day change is the easiest to mask because the game does a lot there anyway

(i.e. players won't notice if it takes 0.5% longer)

[gentle rose]

or skip the asset entirely and directly change the text being shown ig

[brittle pasture]

the "best" method is to straight up harmony patch the description getter/function

[royal stump]

yeah, C# is optimal if you really need live updates & the game doesn't already do them
(if you also know how to code it well )

[vernal crest]

Nobody is expecting an item description to change after getting a recipe because the game doesn't do it, so it not happening until the next day is not going to feel weird to most people imo

In fact, if I were playing I wouldn't ever notice it had changed lol

[plucky mirage]

i could use next day i suppose

if you're saying this is the best practice and won't hurt performance (much)

i wouldn't want to meddle with other stuff

[blissful panther]

A little message popping up the next day trying to prompt the player to look at their items to see that something's changed might be optimal. Otherwise like Aba says, a lot of people might not even notice.

[gentle rose]

(“there’s no hook for this, you have to poll instead” continues to be the bane of my existence in all programming matters /lh)

[plucky mirage]

that's actually a cool idea

[lucid iron]

Hm is the recipe known collection a net collection

[gentle rose]

ooo interesting point

[blissful panther]

Then you can just have it update on day start along with that message. There's probably something in BETAS or something to display the message, so then it would be all CP.

[gentle rose]

surely it has to be, right? for mp

[plucky mirage]

does the action EditData actually append my text to the existing description or would i have to copy the native description of the item into it?

[gentle rose]

look into content patcher text operations

[plucky mirage]

uhhhh

i'm on the tokens page right now

[royal stump]

netstringdict, which I imagine has w/e events needed

[vernal crest]

You want the text operations page, right above it in the files list

[royal stump]

(I've never actually tried using net field hooks yet )

[calm nebula]

I need to warn you that NetList is weird

[plucky mirage]

i found it, thanks

sorry if my questions are stupid

[gentle rose]

good thing this is a netstringdict, completely different /lh

[vernal crest]

They aren't, don't worry. You can't know what you don't know yet.

[plucky mirage]

i am looking at Delimiter, under text operations - it doesn't seem like i can edit a linebreak between the original description and my new text?

am i supposed to insert an "\n" or something?

[calm nebula]

It actually is lolllll

[royal stump]

support for formatting like that isn't guaranteed, and might look odd in some menus, but I think I remember it working in object text

[plucky mirage]

yeah i'm referring to the item description

[plucky mirage]

i don't understand why this example has "Fields" and then lists an item, as opposed to the wiki example of "Entries"

[royal stump]

"Entries" adds or replaces an entire entry; if you used it in that example, it'd reset every other field for the pizza item to the default (no name, etc)

"Fields" just edits the specific fields you list there

there's some more info about that in one of the sections here
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md

[plucky mirage]

is "recipe ID" just the full item ID of the resulting item?

like would i put the ID for Fried Calamari here for instance

[brittle pasture]

no, it's the key of the entry in Data/CookingRecipes (or CraftingRecipes)

[plucky mirage]

(referring to this message)

[brittle pasture]

you can refer the unpacked files

[plucky mirage]

unpacking the game now

thought i wouldn't need to do this

goddamn that is a long ass ID

"Fried Calamari": "151 1 246 1 247 1/3 3/202/f Jodi 3/",
does this look correct?

like is the ID actually the entire thing in the second quotation signs?

[brittle pasture]

the ID is the first one (the key)
the second string (the value) is the content of the recipe

[plucky mirage]

in "HasCraftingRecipe" i just need to put the item name (the first field)?

i have absolutely NO idea if this is correct 🥶

in theory this is supposed to add the text above to the Diamond item if i have the Tortilla cooking recipe unlocked

i suppose i should create my manifest.json and test this out lol

[lucid iron]

Your format is wrong

The version number that goes there is content patcher's version

Also When needs to be on same level as Action

[royal stump]

there's an example of the TextOperations format here, it's different from normal edits
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#text-operations

[plucky mirage]

oh i'm a dumbass i thought it said SMAPI

is this more correct?

[lucid iron]

I think you are missing a closing ] for text operations

[plucky mirage]

is the bracket before last not that

sorry idk what the etiquette of this format is

i copied Esca's example and modified it

[lucid iron]

Every [ needs a ]

[plucky mirage]

yeah there's one of those before the last squiggly bracket

do i need an extra one?

[lucid iron]

You have 2 [

[plucky mirage]

oh

[lucid iron]

One for Changes one for TextOperations

[plucky mirage]

you're absolutely right, i see now

[lucid iron]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

You can use validator for this or find some json plugin for ur text editor to use

[plucky mirage]

i recall using one of those years ago yeah

holy shit i think i did it

the validator says it's correct

it only took like 10 minutes to figure out wtf i was doing wrong

this looks unholy

i'm sure i broke every convention of formatting here

i made a manifest.json in hopes of the mod being loaded and seeing if this works

🕊️ ✌️

i can see Diamond in Data/Objects, not entirely sure what i did wrong

[lucid iron]

Oh diamond should have a number id right

You need the key not the Name

[calm nebula]

72

[plucky mirage]

i can see that it's 72; would i need to do this for every item?

[opaque cobalt]

what are some common causes for an overlay to not work? Just about finished with getting a seasonal outfit mod to work and for her regular outfits, all overlays apply without issue, but for festivals eye color overlays work but not the hair color ones. I'm unsure what could cause that error as Json validator gives no errors nor did the Smapi log.
https://smapi.io/log/b0bf92fafbe24e7dbd70ef9b7360e06d
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c68dfc2fed5c482f8fb2d8851146884e

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 40 C# mods and 50 content packs.

[plucky mirage]

this is after changing Diamond to 72, not sure if the error is the same

[lucid iron]

That is still json parsing error

You can share your content.json through validator

[plucky mirage]

it says it's valid (i just used the first one i found on google)

what do you mean by "share through"; just post my JSON here?

[opaque cobalt]

I believe they are talking about this json validator to make sure things are written properly for SMAPI
link to validator: https://smapi.io/json

[plucky mirage]

ohh ok hang on

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/000c5ea13c764e27a525873cb2df755a

[hallow prism]

if i want a character to have a specific animation during festival, is it more work than the classic appending?

[patent lance]

@calm nebula: look. (6d ago)

[plucky mirage]

okay, i don't know what's wrong with this but i learned a bunch today and been at it for a couple hours so i'll call it quits here

i can always resume tomorrow

i'm not entirely sure why i get that error when every validator says it's fine

[lucid iron]

I don't think the 2.8.1 bit is a problem for running so once u r resume check if you are actually copying your content.json to mod folder?

[plucky mirage]

i am directly editing it and saving my changes in the mod folder

but i'll test again tomorrow

been a real physical day and i'm barely keeping my eyes open haha

unless i misunderstood what you meant; my mod folder just has a content.json and manifest.json, nothing else

[cyan marsh]

random thought, how would I go about making a mod that can change the prices of items

I'm wondering what variable to change

[gentle rose]

sell price, pierre price, joja price, travelling cart price, or something else?

[calm nebula]

I am bad at math

Remind me in 5 days to look

[patent lance]

all right atravita but next time you better bring me 20 nirnroot or i ain't doin it (#7037032) (5d | <t:1769280982>)

[calm nebula]

We love you

[latent mauve]

You've got Portraits/Festvials/ as part of your path for the portrait overlays, is this a misspelling?

A large portion of your overlays have Festvials instead of Festivals, which may be an issue if you are attempting to change a Portraits/Festival target instead.

[opaque cobalt]

Thank you. That would almost certainly be my issue. I didn't even notice. I think in my head I autocorrected to Festivals instead of noticing the error

[latent mauve]

Sometimes you just need fresh eyes to see mistakes that your brain wants to autocorrect

[opaque cobalt]

yep. Thank you for being that set of fresh eyes

[umbral edge]

sorry to get back to you so late school and work have been overwhelming, here is the latest log with your download

https://smapi.io/log/b1a2e0653fba4a9a9af231570b7fbd4a

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 88 C# mods and 81 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[ornate locust]

I've done it

all is ramped.

and I at least loaded it up to see nothing exploded or was in weird spots, thank god for my SVE Joja save, cheated though it may be

festival testing uuuugh i don't wanna

[rotund plume]

If Im making a custom room in Tiled, do I have to run exclusively off vanilla tile sheets? Can I use custom furniture mods or will png files not work

[brittle pasture]

with the latest SMAPI you can use any tilesheets as long as they're loaded, so your custom room can add those mod as a dependency (since you obviously don't want to redistribute those files in your own mod)

other modders have also made tilesheet mods for use in maps

note: i don't know what the etiquette is in term of using someone else's graphics in your mod (even if it's via a dependency and not redistribution), do reach out to them just in case (unless it's a tilesheet mod whose perms is explicit)

tl;dr yes, but make sure to delete the pngs once you're done and only pack the tmx

[lucid iron]

You can also use tilesheets like hxw which just has their furniture

i.e. using extra tilesheets not on the original farmhouse is fine

[gaunt orbit]

Anyone have insight on this error? Says index out of range for this line, but that doesn't make any sense since it's an array constructor and string.Length is always zero or greater.
https://smapi.io/log/d9ab7150499d455db44bab5aa24caa55
https://github.com/tlitookilakin/HappyHomeDesigner/blob/246ad04cd4aff0ecfb69f7f14e88dc3547dc0d25/Framework/Glyph.cs#L18

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 88 C# mods and 233 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[gaunt orbit]

I have a slight suspicion that this person is using a pirated copy of my mod, but I can't prove it

[rotund plume]

yeah I still feel its right to ask even if you use it as a dependency and credit them

[rotund plume]

such a weird thing to pirate when you can just dl from the og source

[uncut viper]

i think its more likely that whatever translation theyre using to translate even the manifest probably left a completely blank translation key, so instead of getting "no translation" its getting ""

[gaunt orbit]

that kind of makes sense, but a zero-length array is still valid

[lucid iron]

I don't think array constructors can throw index out of bounds

[gaunt orbit]

yeah that's the thing that's confusing me

the error looks like array indexing but the line number is just an array constructor

[lucid iron]

Since they are in chinese though, do u think it's a problem with each character taking up more than 1 char

[gaunt orbit]

well I think it's usually not intentional piracy. Typically what happens is some jackass decides to reupload it somewhere without asking, and then people download it because the uploader pretends it's legit

[lucid iron]

I don't think they are doing that actually

If u look at what they renamed it's stuff that has gmcm

A sadly common practice to do that cus can't localize mod title there

[gaunt orbit]

maybe? but char in c# is not the same as byte and can hold multibyte characters. For chinese I did copy the game's method for handling it, ie. using regex to find whitespace and ignoring everything else

most of the code in that class is a modified version of the logic from SpriteText, so if iterating chars was broken it would be broken in the base game too

[lucid iron]

Yeah honestly idk since i never had problems with hhd in chinese

[gaunt orbit]

yeah, I figured if it was a language issue someone else would have probably reported it

[calm nebula]

What about line 42

My experience is that in release mode line numbers are not necessarily reliable

[gaunt orbit]

hmmmm

[uncut viper]

i was told like, yesterday that it was unrelated to the release vs debug mode

[calm nebula]

That said 18 to 42 is a lot

[gaunt orbit]

that could fail if a string contains zero whitespace

[uncut viper]

the other line numbers are also incorrect, though. BluePrintMenu line 347 doesnt call .Layout or ShowOverlayText

[gaunt orbit]

I'm not sure if that's the error but it would be good to fix

[gaunt orbit]

yeah only one of the line numbers in the log makes actual sense

which is part of why I'm wondering if it's a modified binary

[uncut viper]

i was gonna ask why ShowOverlayText didnt show either but maybe in release it got inlined more or sometihn idk (i barely know how inlining works)

[gaunt orbit]

yeah I'm sure that got inlined since it's so small

release builds do tend to do that

so yes even though the line numbers are off, it's likely a chinese language key with a blank value which is causing that trailing text detection to fail

[calm nebula]

That can happen in Chinese yeah

[calm nebula]

(It is and isnt)

Release mode inserts less instrumentation and has more optimized code, both of which can throw off the line number

[ornate locust]

working on my thumbnail

[ornate locust]

the ramps are loose

[brittle pasture]

that doesnt sound safe

[ornate locust]

aaand there's my compatibility update for it. Tadaa

[autumn tide]

omg you actually- it's perfect

[formal crown]

Okay the log errors make both more sense and even less sense now. (It's nothing about you its just these messages should be impossible) But I have another rough idea on what may be happening

[umbral edge]

I can test anything you need, i tested 1.1.1 to see if possibly something changed but its the same issue

[formal crown]

I'm writing up a fix rn

[formal crown]

@umbral edge This should help

(This one only contains the .dll, don't delete the CP part)

[formal crown]

I'll see whatever you find in the morning, since its past 1 am rn

[lucid iron]

can i use a record across pintail

[uncut viper]

yeah

[lucid iron]

do i gotta make the record inherit from interface or can i just put the record

[umbral edge]

https://smapi.io/log/c64e28a027004ac18ac144b6d869c6fc

latest log

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 92 C# mods and 90 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[uncut viper]

pintail only works with an interface doesn't it

so it's gotta inherit from one

[lucid iron]

ah ok

[uncut viper]

this is at least going off other mods I've seen using records in their apis

[hallow prism]

hmm

i have some new locations added in VMV next update including some players may overlook since they "know" the area

is a small quest (kinda like mine exploring) overkill for introducing those?

[lucid iron]

i think it's fun

[royal stump]

that's pretty standard for new areas in commercial games, at least, usually unlocked after interacting with the base game somewhat
which in this case would mean giving them the quest when they've visited a VMV area, or if they've made some progress there, etc
whatever feels right, really

(contrast with Elder Scrolls games that tend to just give you DLC pop-up windows midway through the tutorial )

[hallow prism]

i feel it removes a bit of exploration but also yeah, people will likely not reexplore stuff just because maybe something was added there!

[urban patrol]

the way i introduced my location i added later was an event where the townspeople go "oh did you hear the old docks east of the beach opened back up? what's with the mysterious guy who lives there?" and then just a Location quest to visit the docks (edit: not sure where half my message went)

[royal stump]

adding a visible change to draw their attention from existing areas could also work, but might be hard to get right

[ornate locust]

Yeah, people who know the area would be likely to walk right past it

my words bad today, too many ramp

[hallow prism]

part of my difficulty is that i like immersive paths which sometimes means a bit of dirt in grass to lead to somewhere so ... 😄

[uncut viper]

you could always wait an in game week or month or something to send the quest/letter

[hard fern]

i think maybe adding mail might work too, something relatively simple to get the player's attention

[uncut viper]

and not send it at all if they've visited before then

[hallow prism]

hmm

maybe i can add a timer like having visited the location at least once using the ct location stuff

and preventing it if they indeed visited the other locations

[hidden tinsel]

hi, does anyone have experience working with the mod Scale Up 2 by Platonymous? I'm hitting a roadblock 😅

[uncut viper]

there's just a PLAYER_VISITED_LOCATION gsq

[hallow prism]

(currently idea is to have this in area A, to encourage visiting B and C)

yes

[uncut viper]

using the location visit CT would be more complicated

[hallow prism]

there is also a CT

so i can have a CT about visiting A (so it doesn't trigger on first visit) and not having visited B and C

so they have a chance to explore naturally