making-mods-general

[lucid iron]

They can distribute some kinda base game dll patch script

No idea what the implications would be for everyone else

[gentle rose]

true art must sacrifice compat

[uncut viper]

i dont think anyone would ever practically want to do that

[gentle rose]

just look at everyone is boncher

[uncut viper]

nor would anyone really want to install that en masse

[lucid iron]

This is basically xnb mod but C# and worse

[obtuse wigeon]

just push it with a custom Stardrop, then hack nexus and upload it

simple in theory

[uncut viper]

FAQ: How do I uninstall your mod?

Easy! Just verify your Steam files or, if you're not using steam, delete and reinstall the game completely!

[brittle pasture]

it is 2046, the SDV modding scene has coalesced around 3 different base binary framework, each mutually incompatible with each other. still infinitely better than Skyrim's scene

[uncut viper]

technically any C# mod can already do this its not like you can stop one from messing with your files when you run smapi

[lucid iron]

Yeah ur mod would just have to go like "ok launch me again pls"

[gentle rose]

gonna overwrite the game dll manually by reading it as a regular binary file and writing over all strings

[uncut viper]

or force close the game for you

i can imagine Pathos being very happy to run into such a mod out of the blue when doing the monthly compatibility testing

[lucid iron]

Pathos gonna call mounties on u

[uncut viper]

(unrelatedly but i went to look at Selph's repo to see if they liked annotations or not and in my short time there ive seen three "This should not happen." moments. Selph whats going on in there)

[gentle rose]

“if windows username = pathosusernamefromhisdlls: return”

[uncut viper]

does Pathos use windows

[gentle rose]

“if (insert os) username =“

[uncut viper]

i suppose i could steal Pathos's OS username if i just uploaded the mod without this patch script in it for a month but secretly sent telemetry data to some server i own if there are over 3,000 installed C# mods bc who else would that be but Pathos

and then next month exclude him

Pathos this is all hypothetical i swear

[brittle pasture]

cosmic bit flip

[modest dagger]

Current iteration of the mod has: Cow, Chicken, Pig and Sheep but no recipes yet, update i'm working on adds in Rabbit, Duck, Goat, Ostrich and Dino and recipes! (And yes it is compat with AHM but that's with a mod selph made)

[uncut viper]

cosmic bit flip removed the spacecore API

[patent lance]

New quote added by irocendar as #6799 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1448416435754897601)

[uncut viper]

many such cases

[brittle pasture]

iro documenting button's crimes for the upcoming trial

[uncut viper]

if we're judging people for code crimes i think calling your static Monitor instance StaticMonitor is up there too /lh

[gentle rose]

no I will install a keylogger and disable for anyone who uses

[hard fern]

its very gamey so it's not something you see people eat a lot, but im sure it's a more regional thing

oh. discord wanted me to see meat.

and only mea.

[uncut viper]

at that point you are no longer contending with Pathos but instead Windows Defender who i think has a much worse hatred for keyloggers

[autumn tide]

-# i have no clue whatsoever of what is going on here but it's very entertaining

[gentle rose]

mod instructions: disable all antiviruses and stop taking all antibiotic medication

[lucid iron]

https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1303/images/28284/28284-1727835180-870174732.png

[uncut viper]

to be fair i didnt make that thumbnail

[lucid iron]

For those who don't speak C# this is happening

[gentle rose]

was that avi. that looks like something avi would do

[autumn tide]

boooo you should have it's perfect

[uncut viper]

it was avi yeah

[gentle rose]

I know avi nonsense by sight now

if you knew what they used betas for you would rue the day you published it 😌

[uncut viper]

i know what Avi has used BETAS for because thats where many of my bug reports came from

[lucid iron]

No1 QA

[gentle rose]

ah but have you been seeing the latest iterations

[uncut viper]

also Avi was like the best advertisement BETAS had in its early days

[calm nebula]

Stardew 1.36 drops and breaks all of that

[uncut viper]

Quests are still not a data model

[gentle rose]

now we have 5 base binary frameworks

[hard fern]

what about stardew 2.0

[calm nebula]

Some fool has modded stardew running on a ps3

[toxic hornet]

are you planning to add chevon for goat or is it gonna be mutton like AHM?

-# .and do you think you'll do any nonvanilla animals? (the SVE ones, turkey, quail, venison, alpaca...)

[iron ridge]

Doesn't he use vms now

After the July incident

[iron ridge]

Can I put Linux on my modded ps3...

[brittle pasture]

(you are in no way obligated to do this (and it would be a lot of work too) but I still think it would be better if you make AHM's own meat items compatible by default without my swapping mod)

[soft lance]

you can if you can manage to break out and install a custom BIOS

[gentle rose]

wait speaking of, have we reported all instances of malware mods to him

[soft lance]

or flash the ps3's drive..with an adapter

[gentle rose]

like the malware reuploads

[iron ridge]

He wouldn't be effected by alchemistry and tbe like

The other ones yes afaik

[iron ridge]

Hmmmm

[soft lance]

id say the best is a vm with an encrypted drive

[gentle rose]

I mean for the blacklister

[soft lance]

protects u

[uncut viper]

beats me but i wouldnt be surprised (tbh thinking about it i would be surprised if he wasnt before)

[gentle rose]

unless it uses the original IDs

[iron ridge]

Oh

The July ones didnt

[gentle rose]

ah, shame

[iron ridge]

But the newer ones haven't been modified dlls

DIDNT SORRY

JULY WAS NEW IDS

[gentle rose]

oh, we should tell him about those then

he can add them to the blacklist

[modest dagger]

i thought chevron was horse? (And in that case no I wasn't going to add horse, other non vanilla animals tho are planned for the future but that's a long way aways)

[iron ridge]

He did

They've been there since jult

[gentle rose]

ah, I’m way behind then

[iron ridge]

There also the option to block per md5 hash

[blissful panther]

Speaking of Pathon and malware, the GitHub workflow for building SMAPI is essentially 100% done. I just need to sneakily test it in a public repo, because I can't test attestations in a private one.

[iron ridge]

Which I personally don't get bc it's very feasible to make an md5 collision with similar files

[gentle rose]

it is? I thought md5 was one of the ones where similar things got very different results

[iron ridge]

It's meant to be

[gentle rose]

oh has it been cracked

[iron ridge]

But there's a reason when a site uses md5 for passwords everyone is very angry

[toxic hornet]

chevon is goat meat, chevron is an oil company, cheval is horse (in french)

i would never butcher the horsies

[modest dagger]

I guess i am adding chevon then since i'm adding goat!

[obtuse wigeon]

Good to know, does that mean md5 is lossless then? unlike SHA256 which is lossy?

[iron ridge]

No it's still not possible to get the input string back

You have to bruteforce it

But it's easy enough to bruteforce that collisions are doable (or maybe it's just a logic bug leading to the easy collisions? Idk)

But for non cryptographic purposes it's still fine in most cases (deduplication of log files or something)

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohhh gotcha

[toxic hornet]

[brittle pasture]

basically it's cracked not in the "you can get the input string from the output" sense (not really possible either way) but in the "I have this zip file full of malware, I can easily find the exact extra bytes required to make its md5 hash the exact same as the legit archive" sense

[onyx mantle]

Hello ^^ so I have tried making my own custom sprites for penny and elliot and I made the sprites and images for them, but then when I tried to put them into a json file I wasn't able to make them. Would anyone know how to do this? I can also just send someone the images if they have the program to do it, I don't have the program anymore

[velvet narwhal]

[uncut viper]

welcome avi

[velvet narwhal]

I was summoned

[uncut viper]

can you elaborate more on what you mean by "wasnt able to make them". the only program you need is a text editor that can save files as .json

which is basically any text editor

[onyx mantle]

there was some kind of program that would unpack things and show you what to put in the text file. It was a long time ago and I don't remember what it was called exactly. What text editor is recommended and do you know what they need to say?

I might be overthinking how to do it and psyching myself out

[uncut viper]

oh, you mean the xnb unpacker?

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[onyx mantle]

Yeah! that

[uncut viper]

depending on how long ago you downloaded it you may have had the old one and would need the newer one recommended on the wiki anyway

[obtuse wigeon]

!json as for reccomeneded text editors, heres a a few (the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th links)

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[calm nebula]

All hash is lossy

[uncut viper]

they wont show you what to write in your json per se because for replacing sprites you're just replacing images, but theyll tell you what your "Target" will be in the CP json

[calm nebula]

Look up pigeonhole

It's just easy to do a hash collision in md5

Kids these days

[blissful panther]

The day any hash is perfectly reversible, we've got the best compression algorithm ever.

[calm nebula]

Didn't get massively dressed down by their IT department for hash cracking on university computers

[onyx mantle]

So I'm downloading Notepad++ is there a guide on what to put in the text?

[uncut viper]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editimage.md

this plus the more general author guide docs: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md

but EditImage is likely what you'll wanna use for replacing the sprites themselves

[onyx mantle]

thank you so much! I'll do my best

[uncut viper]

(you can also use Load instead of EditImage, which will also be linked in the Author Guide part which also has an example for using Load to completely replace Abigail's portraits, and you can do the same thing but with the spritesheets instead, though when using Load you generally want to care about the Priority you choose too for compatibility reasons. if its for personal use though you can afford to care a lot less as long as it works )

you can also ofc always try to find a very simple sprte/portrait replacer mod on Nexus and look at what they did, since you can just read their .json files

[onyx mantle]

Whichever process is easier I suppose?

[uncut viper]

theyre practically the same difficulty

[onyx mantle]

Which one do you think would work better?

[gentle rose]

pigeonhole gets complicated when there’s this many options

also of course I’m familiar with the pigeonhole principle, I have a maths degree during which I had a literal pigeonhole /lh

[uncut viper]

im saying one isnt necessarily better or worse than the other, it depends on your personal priorities and how much you care about following some communal best practices or how much you just care about making a mod for you to use

[onyx mantle]

I just wanted to have a json mod I can pop into the mods folder, beyond that I'm not familiar with any of best practices ^^; I'm very beginner at modding

[uncut viper]

Load can be easier but comes with compatibility concerns, EditImage less compatibility concerned but not entirely free of it
(speaking very generally)

i would just Load over the original sprites then

[onyx mantle]

Sure ^^ was there a linked guide you posted earlier?

[uncut viper]

the second one i linked is the Author Guide and in there near the top is an example Load patch

for replacing Portraits/Abigail, which is the asset that holds her portraits you see in the dialogue box when talking to her

[onyx mantle]

Okay I have opened the author guide, let me look for the load

[uncut viper]

if you wanted to replace the spritesheet instead, like how she looks walking around in the world, you'd write Characters/Abigail instead of Portraits/Abigail

[onyx mantle]

Okay I see the example for abigail

[uncut viper]

(and Characters/Abigail_Beach and Characters/Abigail_Winter for those versions of her, too)

[onyx mantle]

How would I write this down for the different outfits?

do I copy paste each one?

I don't mean to be so confused by the process

[uncut viper]

you can either copy-paste the whole patch 3 times (not the whole json! just the patch!) or you can write them all in the same target but it'd then need some tokens and file name considerations to work properly

what custom images do you have?

[rare orbit]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a264a4c4987d4843b0aff0f8d0603fd9
So im helping out Jupm with the code for the Nyapu Styled Portraits for SpecialAgentJonson's Custom Npc Mirren but idk if i have it set right for the rain portraits or not

[onyx mantle]

I made customs for all the elliot and penny sprites ^^ um, the beach outfit, winter, and regular

So for the patch, would I copy paste the whole thing six times for each outfit per character?

[uncut viper]

as long as you were copying just the patch part and not the entire file, that would work

[onyx mantle]

what's the patch part?

[uncut viper]

so just the part like this:

{
  "Action": "Load",
  "Target": "whatever"
  ...
},

this is the section you'd copy paste

[onyx mantle]

So "Action": "Load", "Target": "Portraits/Abigail", "FromFile": "assets/abigail.png"

this six times?

[uncut viper]

the {}s and the comma are important

you cannot leave those out

[onyx mantle]

{ "Action": "Load", "Target": "Portraits/Abigail", "FromFile": "assets/abigail.png" }

this six times?

[uncut viper]

yes, but you'll need a comma after the last } to separate them

and each one would have a different Target and FromFile ofc

correct, as long as you remember to keep the bottom of the file the same afterwards

{
   "Format": "2.8.0",
   "Changes": [
      {
         "Action": "Load",
         "Target": "Portraits/Abigail",
         "FromFile": "assets/abigail.png"
      },
      {
         "Action": "Load",
         "Target": "Portraits/Abigail_Winter",
         "FromFile": "assets/abigail_winter.png"
      },
      ... and so on...
   ]
}

[onyx mantle]

Would you prefer I DM you so we're not flooding the chat? ^^; apologies

[uncut viper]

nope! i would prefer it was done in chat

this channel is made for helping as much as it is just discussion, so no worries there

[onyx mantle]

Okay ^^; just a bit embarrassed

but no worries!

[uncut viper]

Everyone here was in your shoes at one point or another

[rare orbit]

anyone mind helpin me? sorry i wanna make sure that this json is correct

[stray hemlock]

Absolutely no need. Asking for help is not shameful.

[onyx mantle]

Would I replace 'portraits' with 'sprites'

[uncut viper]

you havent said what errors you've gotten

[rare orbit]

basically? the rain portraits won't show

[uncut viper]

nope, this is what the unpack would be for, the Target you write would match the file path inside your unpacked content folder

in this case if you go to your unpacked Content folder and then inside the Characters folder, you'll see Abigail.png and Abigail_Winter.png and Abigail_Beach.png (for example, still using abi)

therefore, if you wanted to replace those images when the game is running with content patcher, you'd write Characters/Abigail, Characters/Abigail_Winter, etc for the Targets

[rare orbit]

the author of Mirren the florist told me that the rain portraits for each season are named like this btw: {{ModId}}_Mirren_rain _{{Season}}

why is it formatted like that??

[uncut viper]

because they chose to format it that way

[stray hemlock]

Discord uses underscores _ for formatting: _test_

[uncut viper]

oh, you mean that

[rare orbit]

no i meant like why is it typed like that

yeah

[uncut viper]

yeah what Pink Serenity said

[stray hemlock]

Use this: `test`

[rare orbit]

basically this is what they said the rain portraits are labeled as but basically? Jupm told me from testing that the portraits don't show up while raining

[uncut viper]

your targets dont match that, Nikki

[rare orbit]

oh crap

[uncut viper]

you wrote [theirModId].Mirren instead of [theirModId]_Mirren

note the dot instead of the underscore

[rare orbit]

oops

lemme fix that real quick

[onyx mantle]

I think I have them written down, but I don't know if I have them correct. In case of lower or upper case being right. Let me know when I can post the final version here for verification ^^; I don't wanna interrupt

[stray hemlock]

It should be Portraits/SpecialAgentJonson.MirrenTheFlorist_Mirren_rain_spring, I think, so both dot and underscore.

[uncut viper]

interrupting is fine and happens here all the time you can upload what you've got to this website though: https://smapi.io/json
and then send the link here when you do for us to look at

[onyx mantle]

Oh right! thanks

[rare orbit]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8f09d6c5ad004eed83b05c1cb50d0615 like this right??

[uncut viper]

(that uploader site is usually preferred bc it will both point out errors and let anyone click the link you send and for longer jsons is much much better than a giant wall of json here )

[onyx mantle]

It said there were no errors ^^

[rare orbit]

im still very much learning but i gotta remind myself it's ok to not be perfect

[onyx mantle]

How do I upload it

err download it

[rare orbit]

i got you bro

[onyx mantle]

Um, I think I just save in the doc

[uncut viper]

the URL should be different now, you can send the url

[rare orbit]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher use this website

[uncut viper]

to be clear it will only show syntax errors which are things like missing commas and whatnot, but it wont tell you if your Targets are right

[rare orbit]

you can either drop the file or copy n paste

[onyx mantle]

Oh dear.

[latent mauve]

When you've actually added your file and pressed "Save & Validate File" it'll refresh the page with a green box at the top with a URL in it. That URL is what you share so other people can read it. ❤️

[rare orbit]

yeah essentially

but the code can come with no errors n still have issues

it mostly checks if it's formatted right

right??

[uncut viper]

correct

[rare orbit]

cool cool

[uncut viper]

it knows json errors but not intention errors

[onyx mantle]

How do I make a content pack of the images?

[stray hemlock]

LGTM (Looks good to me)
I think you can even only do one entry like this:

{
  "LogName": "Seasonal Portraits - Rain {{season}}",
  "Action": "EditImage",
  "Target": "Portraits/SpecialAgentJonson.MirrenTheFlorist_Mirren_rain_{{season}}",
  "FromFile": "assets/Mirren_rain_{{season}}.png"
},

[uncut viper]

the top part of the Author Guide you were linked to has a section called "Getting started" and will tell you how to make a content pack for it

[rare orbit]

lemme try that! that'd be easier than what i put

[stray hemlock]

I don't know if "LogName" supports that though.

[uncut viper]

also to be clear Bela we cannot actually see what you wrote for your json until you've sent the link, it being uploaded just means it exists on the website, but we're not able to just go look for it

[lucid iron]

LogName don't token afaik

[uncut viper]

so we cant verify if what you have is correct

LogName does not use Tokens no

[onyx mantle]

ohhh

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3aa3779b3e4f4f86af4392ba6254c201

[stray hemlock]

@rare orbit Alrighty, don't do it in "LogName". Just call that "Seasonal Portraits - Rain" or something.

[uncut viper]

assuming you're only trying to replace their portraits and not their overworld sprites for now, that all looks fine to me (and assuming your content pack folder ends up with an "assets" folder with all these .pngs in it)

[onyx mantle]

Oh no, it's the sprites I am trying to change

[uncut viper]

also actually Elliott has two t's in it

[latent mauve]

You are targeting the Portraits currently

[onyx mantle]

oh shoot.

[uncut viper]

you need to change the Targets then as mentioned, to Characters/ instead of Portraits/

[onyx mantle]

Okay I have added the t in all the things and changes Portraits to Characters

[latent mauve]

also, quick check to make sure I haven't made a silly mistake since the JSON parser is giving me an error now:

      "Action": "EditMap",
      "Target": "Maps/Woods",
      "AddWarps": [
        "46 3 {{ModId}}_LostWoods 28 29",
        "47 3 {{ModId}}_LostWoods 28 29"
      ]
    },```
should be valid, correct?

I think the validator is just mad at the token, but want to verify.

[uncut viper]

is the error something about the validity of the ModId token in the AddWarps field

[onyx mantle]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/11c9ddb7539848ddad9730f21533ffd5

[latent mauve]

"Each warp must match the exact format recognized by the game's Warp map property (i.e. 'fromX fromY targetMap targetX targetY', like '10 10 Town 0 30')."

[stray hemlock]

Not me making that mistake every second day.

[uncut viper]

yeah it just doesnt know how to handle a token

[latent mauve]

okay, good. Thanks!

[uncut viper]

looks good just need to follow the rest of those content pack steps on the Author Guide to make the mod

[onyx mantle]

Do I need to name this json file 'manifest' or something?

Oh let me read

[uncut viper]

no, you will need a manifest.json, but not this one

this one is content.json

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#create-the-content-pack

[calm nebula]

This is fine

[onyx mantle]

Okay I have saved the content to the proper folder ^^

content.json I mean

[uncut viper]

then once you've got the manifest.json next to it inside the same folder, and that folder is in your Mods folder, you can launch SMAPI to see if it works

both manifest.json and content.json are required

[stray hemlock]

manifest.json is for SMAPI (the "mod loader") to know the name of your mod and all that. content.json is what you actually want to do. This is read by Content Patcher.

[rare orbit]

hey? any idea if this page should be updated for 1.6? some mods don't really work for 1.6
https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Playtesting_as_a_Modder#Playtesting_Mods

[urban patrol]

which mods?

[onyx mantle]

Where do I find the update keys to put in the manifest?

[uncut viper]

all of these mods work on 1.6

[uncut viper]

you can leave that as just [], thats if you want to upload your mod to NexusMods or somewhere

[rare orbit]

oh didn't know that

[urban patrol]

the modding wiki got an upgrade recently btw where each page now has the date it was last edited at the top

[onyx mantle]

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/55fbd7e7ff7547d7b71e3d91fec1ce19

[uncut viper]

(but to answer, the update keys would be your nexusmods ID for your mod, assuming you uploaded it to nexusmods specifically. nexus gives you the ID before you publish the mod)

[rare orbit]

thought some mods weren't working but idk

[onyx mantle]

I seem to have an issue

[uncut viper]

you cannot use spaces or special characters in your uniqueid

Belavula.BelasCustomSprites will do

(well no special characters except dots and underscores and dashes)

(maybe not dashes idk)

also, dont change ContentPackFor

as the Author Guide says that needs to not be changed

[onyx mantle]

oops, okay

[uncut viper]

that is telling SMAPI that this is a mod for Content Patcher, so it must match the ID for Content Patcher

[stray hemlock]

Belavula.Belas⸺Custom⸺Sprites

[uncut viper]

so you should revert it back to what it was

[onyx mantle]

Where do I revert?

[uncut viper]

just erase it and retype what it was before

Pathoschild.ContentPatcher

[onyx mantle]

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/4584ffd647bf450bb6d607c4be29ebbc Okay I think I fixed it

[uncut viper]

looks good to me

[rare orbit]

i did add the mod self checkout to the playtester mod list btw. both work but self checkout allows one to test custom shops too and has compatibilty with live stock bazaar
https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Playtesting_as_a_Modder

[autumn tide]

hmm should i make a 'making mods chatter' thread for vaugely mod-related yapping? cause here is mostly for help with modding and programming off-topic is more for other programming stuff

[uncut viper]

no. this channel is for creating content and chatting amongs mod authors.

[autumn tide]

gotcha, alr!

[uncut viper]

it would be a junimos decision to split channels/topics regardless

or for deciding what can/cannot go somewhere

[stray hemlock]

I feel like threads would be a good addition though.

[autumn tide]

there are threads here!

[lucid mulch]

Mod related yapping sounds a lot like #modded-stardew

[uncut viper]

we already have threads for specific topics and mod authors are free to make their own

[stray hemlock]

... I need to talk more...

[uncut viper]

(typically for their own endeavours, but not always, e.g. the creative writing thread)

[autumn tide]

true true, i was think more mod making stuff tho

[uncut viper]

(though, that one was also before #making-mods-art accepted non-visual art, so that had more of a purpose)

[dire kestrel]

yeah that already happens in #modded-stardew lol

[autumn tide]

hmm okay okay, I didn't know that making mods art was chill was non-visual art, nice :)

[uncut viper]

people yapping about making mods in modded-stardew are technically off topic and should be doing it in here instead but "i am not a junimo yada yada"

just like yapping about using them is technically off-topic for here

[autumn tide]

true true

[stray hemlock]

So if I have a meme about making mods, I should post it here or...?

[uncut viper]

it wasnt always! has been for a decent while now though, dont remember when it was officially changed

(since last october, apparently)

[autumn tide]

i think there's a generic meme channel? but yeah, imo it would be nice to have like a mod-making yapping/shitpost channel/thread

[dire kestrel]

if the distinction ever wants to be made by moderators it can be

[uncut viper]

they have, in the pins, where they direct to this channel for making mods

[autumn tide]

hm, so would making a 'mod shitposts/yapping' thread be okay then? i don't see why not, and i am able to make them bc of my role, but idk i'd feel awkward making a thread for general use without asking for consensus first

lemme make a poll

[uncut viper]

i wouldnt use it and i dont see a point to it, but thats my two cents

nor would it be valid to tell people to use it instead of yapping in here either

[urban patrol]

yeah i think anyone in this server just shooting the shit expects to get interrupted at some point lol

[autumn tide]

remind me in 24 hours to check this and then choose whether or not to make the thread

[patent lance]

I'd rather boot myself on an unprotected windows XP install than deal with you but we can't all have what we want, can we? (#6987069) (24h | <t:1765491823>)

[autumn tide]

awww ty :)

[patent lance]

anytime, head_in_the_cl0uds xD

[autumn tide]

..always freaks me out when it responds-

[stray hemlock]

I wish it would react to that.

[autumn tide]

i knowww it should :(

[devout otter]

(FYI the poll will @ you anyway when it finishes so you wouldn't need to ask for reminder.)

[autumn tide]

gotchaaa okay

[inner harbor]

Don't know if its possible, but it would be nice if there was a way to identify which of the cat and dog sprites were active in the game. For those of us that want to use the pet in events, for example.

[lucid iron]

if u use petActor it'll be the chosen one

[autumn tide]

hellooo will replacing these empty brackets with null change anything? the sight of the brackets empty just irritates me lol

for data/locations entries!

[urban patrol]

if you don't want them in your custom location just delete them

[autumn tide]

okay!

[urban patrol]

the wiki tells you what's optional and what isn't

[autumn tide]

i know, and i read that, but for some reason deleting it didn't come to mind LOL

'optional' BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DELETE IT

😭

[lucid iron]

when the field is not specified it will get a default value

[uncut viper]

nothing. it gets prefilled with default values if they exist

[lucid iron]

changing it to be null is more likely to blow stuff up

[urban patrol]

you'll only be able to fish trash etc

in Data/Locations there's a Default

[autumn tide]

my bran is very slow-

BRAIN

jesus-

...i'm gonna go now before i mess up again-

[uncut viper]

"optional" is less "can i remove it" and more "do i need to add it in the first place"

[urban patrol]

side note it's funny to me that CreateOnLoad is optional. yes please i'd like to make a nothingburger location

[lucid iron]

i think its default true right

so optional only in that u dont have to put false unless you wanna

[urban patrol]

wiki doesn't say ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[uncut viper]

it has defaults, yes

[gaunt orbit]

Well this is still useful actually. Farm type location data uses that, for example

I don't know what would happen if you enabled CreateOnLoad for one of those, but probably bad things

Basically you use it when you want to store location data that doesn't represent an actual location you can go to

[urban patrol]

that does make sense, wouldn't want the farmer to have 6 farms at once

[gaunt orbit]

Frankly it would be very cool to see it used for instanced building interiors

[urban patrol]

ough i have to cut my nails i keep typoing everything

when would it be created if not on load? when constructed, handled somewhere else?

[gaunt orbit]

It's not created anywhere

You just read data or of it as needed

You have to remember that data assets are just data. Locations are entirely separate from location data, they just read the data when they need information out of it

Like the farm- it has a default entry, but when the code asks it for its data, it changes the data it gives based on which farm type is selected.

Or the LOCATION_FISH item query, which reads the data directly to get fish information

[lucid mulch]

cellar is another case of createonload false

[lucid iron]

I thought u get 8 cellars made tho

[gaunt orbit]

Not necessarily 8

But yes whatever your number of farmer slots is configured to

It's handled separately from normal location creation though

[inner harbor]

when was petActor added? Is it in base SDV? If so, someone needs to tell the Mirren author!

[lucid iron]

It's the thingy marnie event uses

When she give u the pet

[inner harbor]

ah right, updated in 1.6? Cos prior it was "cat" or "Dog"

[lucid iron]

Very niche

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/35306

Here's a mod that actually uses it

[inner harbor]

I have an event with a random cat - but now I will need to make a dog version 🙂

[autumn tide]

oooh looks cool

[lucid iron]

For the dialogue you can provide just use the token

[inner harbor]

I think dog noise might be more complicated.

[lucid iron]

PreferredPet

[inner harbor]

I'll need to take a look.

is Mirren's author here? SpecialAgentJonson?

[autumn tide]

yup!

[inner harbor]

do they know about this cat/dog/petActor thing?

[autumn tide]

no clue 🤷

prob wouldn't hurt though!

[inner harbor]

someone was commenting on how Mirren changed the pet sprites, and it annoyed them. so I'm wondering if maybe this is a fix.

[autumn tide]

maybe? idk I haven't checked out his mods yet

..mostly cause i don't play stardew anymore-

[inner harbor]

@elfin kindle You're the Mirren author? You know how you overwrite the cat/dog sprites - is it only for use in events?

(cos if so, we might have an alternate for you)

[autumn tide]

you hath been summoned

[inner harbor]

(I haven't tried Mirren, I haven't played since ES's release and Yandere isn't my jam, but the portraits are nice!)

[autumn tide]

oh yeah the portraits are great!

[elfin kindle]

Yes i am! And I was JUST looking over a solution but i am truly all ears. Cus rn im looking at a config option of choosing which one you want ^^ And Mirren certainly isn't for everyone, and i appreciate the compliments! Making his portraits were the most fun lolol

[inner harbor]

apparently "petActor" works to choose the chosen pet.

[elfin kindle]

I used pet actor in later events and it didn't work for me, but?

How did ya'll get it to work??

[autumn tide]

aw :(

[inner harbor]

I haven't tried it, but I trusted Chu!

I have an event with the pet too, but I just chose a random cat.

[elfin kindle]

Yeah i found the petActor from the original adoption event but i really don't know how it works cus i can't use it later and i'd have to manually animate each frame too-

[inner harbor]

ah dang.

sorry. I got excited.

[autumn tide]

oooh that's not good

[elfin kindle]

But i'm setting up a config so you can pick which animal is used both in events and on the farm, and no worries I am incredibly flattered you guys even thought of me when you saw it!

[inner harbor]

there was a post on Reddit.

which got me thinking

[elfin kindle]

I know people have been mildly affected by the fact the pet is overridden 💀

[inner harbor]

(about possible solutions)

[autumn tide]

..I will steal this idea for a random pet event

[inner harbor]

honestly, I'd just say, use one randomly and just tell the player to suspend disbelief.

[autumn tide]

plagarism

(if it's alr ofc lol)

[inner harbor]

(I have an event in my child mod with a cat, if anyone said "that's not my cat" I was just gonna say "what, you haven't had a random cat wander into your house before")

(which isn't valid in your case obv)

[elfin kindle]

eh, people can disable the overriding if they want, i've set it up like i've set it up already and if that's a deal breaker for people then thats so fair and i take no personal offense ^^

[elfin kindle]

So fair honestly PFFFT

[autumn tide]

it is now. cat distribution system. boom. you have a cat.

[inner harbor]

yeh, my config suggestion was going to be changePet: "true" and ChangePet: "false" it seems the people on Reddit don't care if the pet int he events doesn't look like their pet.

[uncut viper]

looking at the C# code i think you're supposed to set it up with just pet but then their actor name is PetActor from then on?

[inner harbor]

(people will accuse you of ruining immersion for the silliest of reasons anyway)

[uncut viper]

yeah the marnie event also does that, pet in the character setup, PetActor after

[autumn tide]

yeahhh kinda nervous about actually releasing my mod (assuming i finish it..) bc of the potential complaints 😬

[elfin kindle]

I think I did that as well cus i spotted that when i was looking at the code but it really just didn't want to work

And i don't know if the pet is set up to be able to walk around and such, its frame by frame animated in the adoption scene and it never walks so i got a little worried. Which is why i just set up NPC's of the pets which is never seen outside of events

it was before i learned how to use temporaryactors lolol

[autumn tide]

oooh temp actors are hell-

[inner harbor]

temp actors are fine.

I use them all the time.

[merry river]

as long as it's not valid complaints (like. actual bugs) i will eat them

[autumn tide]

...well i cannot temporary actor-

[autumn tide]

awww ty!

[inner harbor]

however, things like cats and dogs and anything over 16x32 pixels needs to be moved using advancedMove or they won't stop moving.

but advancedMove is fine.

[autumn tide]

OH THAT THE ISSUE

[inner harbor]

If you're curious, look at Munchboi

[autumn tide]

omg tysm i've been wondering about his for months omg tysn

[elfin kindle]

Fuck the complaints dude, its your mod and you made it for free as a hobby, people can take it or leave it, no one is forcing them to play and as long as their money isn't going into your pockets then they can keep their "but according to caaanon" to themselves

[merry river]

oh wow i hate advanced move, i will never add an animal companion

[autumn tide]

i have spent so long wondering why my temp npcs were going into the void-

[inner harbor]

advancedMove is amazing

[autumn tide]

not you void lol

[autumn tide]

[inner harbor]

once you start using it, you won't ever use move again.

[elfin kindle]

I hate advancedMove, omg i could not get it to work properly dude. They just kept walking off

[autumn tide]

[lucid mulch]

Cellar1,Cellar2 etc get made, but via pre-1.6 logic, not via data/locations

[autumn tide]

YES omg

[merry river]

sending you npcs to me

[autumn tide]

you gotta formulaic with those

[inner harbor]

honestly, you can get it to move offset NPCs, move two at the same time... walk in circles all over the freaking map.

[merry river]

yeah either that or they just didn't walk at all and kept walking on the spot

[autumn tide]

enjoyyy you have 100+ of alex's dog now

oh and lewis's demon shorts

[inner harbor]

that does sometimes happen with the farmer especially, Void.

[elfin kindle]

I use advanced move a couple times but i can't figure out in general. They just always end up walking off into nothingness

[autumn tide]

and bombs..

[inner harbor]

IT's usually caused by having a mix of move and advancedMove happening simultaneously.

[merry river]

lemur consider this: we're silly newbies. at least i am.

[autumn tide]

same..

[inner harbor]

I was too once

did you have advancedMove NPC true 4 0 or something, void?

[elfin kindle]

Yeah probably, but i've had it when move hadn't been used, or the issue was that i mixed move and the advancedMove and then move again or smth like that

[autumn tide]

nahhh you're like some constant and ever-lasting mod pro in a vaugely magical way /j

[inner harbor]

I was also new when there weren't a lot of NPC modmakers around, so I peppered poor Mouse with questions and learned a lot by trial and error.

[elfin kindle]

It is REALLY funny to me watching a character walk off screen during a tense event though. Like pls Mirren come back, the scene isn't done yet, cmon dude

[inner harbor]

(so much trial and error)

[autumn tide]

omg yes-

[merry river]

honestly i have the biggest respect for you releasing a yandere oc as npc, that's like a balls(or body part of your choice lol) of steel move. i think about being my ocs being perceived and want to shrivel up and cry
haven't tried mirren yet but i love that there's a route that actually makes him address his obsessive behavior in therapy or something?

[ornate locust]

people love complaining, I've gotten more than one "I wish your mod was just a part of this other similar mod" already. Hey can you just casually rewrite your whole mod to this other author's vision? Thaaanks

[autumn tide]

wait lemme send a recording of my first event krobus just leaped into the void it was so funny-

[inner harbor]

you mean the "why didn't you talk to this other modmaker to make your lore work together"?

As long as mine are functionally compatible, I ain't gonna split hairs about lore comaptible.

[ornate locust]

I know they haven't played it so they think it's like, just change a few references, but it's very much "start over again from scratch because my immersion"

[elfin kindle]

Hehe it's just what I wanted to make! If nobody liked him then well, at least i made something and had fun doing it. I also have very supportive friends lolol my bf proofread a lot of my scenes

[autumn tide]

found it ✨

[inner harbor]

like having two police-typs in a town of 50 or so people isn't overkill

[merry river]

i am always of the opinion "it's better to have two cakes than just one" but i guess people are stupid sometimes

[autumn tide]

yeah :(

[inner harbor]

choose one or suspend disbelief.

[elfin kindle]

People need to learn to just shut up and keep inside thoughts to themselves when they get something cool for free

[cyan marsh]

with everything ive done the last couple of days... i am finally implementing more spouse stuff

[autumn tide]

but i crumble at judgement so-

[ornate locust]

"but I want both cakes and for them to work together in lore" <this guy apparently

[inner harbor]

can I see the code for it? If you still have it.

[merry river]

hahahaha omg this reminds me of my first event
i accidentally set the command jump to 400 and it launched the farmer out of the screen

[elfin kindle]

SPEAKING OF, dude your NPC maker was a big part to how i even started making my mod! I had to transfer everything and learn how to do it myself for.. some reason i can't remember cus it was like 3 years ago but still!! you're a legend

[autumn tide]

oh, no I don't anymore, this was for my first event!

[autumn tide]

HAH i love it

[ornate locust]

My favorite of those voidwalks is still the NPC who told me the grocery store was too crowded and then just walked into the void to escape it

[autumn tide]

💯

[cyan marsh]

someone made something that seems to work.. but I am attempting to go beyond that

[inner harbor]

I've had people walk off into the abyss with advancedMoe because I forgot to set up the facing direction correctly

[autumn tide]

icon ngl

[ornate locust]

Social anxiety icon 100%

[inner harbor]

advancedMove NPC false 4 0 0 1000 does not mean, walk 4 tiles then face north for 1000 msecs.

[ornate trellis]

void walking is my fave right after the times i had two constances because i messed up my longer spacecore fishing animation

[elfin kindle]

It's how I feel when people ask me to make map changes. i HATE messing with my map code, it's so fragile dude- Which is is why i kindly tell people that i'll happily provide my code and assets if they want to make something for Mirren themselves. :)

[autumn tide]

they crave the void's stiffling embrace (not void the person omg)

[inner harbor]

(that's advancedMove NPC false 4 0 4 1000)

[autumn tide]

love how there are two voids on here haha

[merry river]

my mod making endeavors literallt started because one person on tumblr made an elliott reskin of my friend's favorite character. we tried the mod and were like "that's fun but it would be even more fun if it was a standalone"
the artist didn't plan on making him a standalone npc so i asked permission to use their sprites and assets and dove in headfirst lmao

[cyan marsh]

e.e i heed advice but do things my own way

[elfin kindle]

I can't remember why i had to remake, it was an update thing or something and yeah i wanted to make more indepth lolol but like your program made it approachable enough for me to even try ^^

[ornate trellis]

the void is everywhere

[autumn tide]

tis the way!

[ornate locust]

I tried to have Jas run up to Shane excited about something hatching and ended up have her just punch through a building and zoom into space

[autumn tide]

PHAH

[ornate locust]

void walk is at least a funny error

[cyan marsh]

people ask me to make things SVE compatible, but I don't use SVE so I don't care.. (I usually give Flashshifter permission to make patches)

[merry river]

it's okay i would welcome krobus with open arms

[autumn tide]

awww :)

[elfin kindle]

So fair dude

[cyan marsh]

I got an alpha version on my discord.. but it's not complete..

[ornate trellis]

im sitting here rn yet again trying to remember the damn fish table code

[cyan marsh]

it does make a functional characterdata json for you tho

[merry river]

what i've learnt during g the past 4 weeks of mod making; being asked for sve compat is a meme at this point

[inner harbor]

I started modmaking to stop Marnie telling me her nephew Shane was living with her.

[ornate locust]

I even like doing compatibility stuff, but people are still asking for the one thing I can't compat

[inner harbor]

(He was married to me at the time)

[autumn tide]

yeah, so far for compatibility my plan is 'If i use the mod, I'll try, if i don't idfk you make it compatible'

[elfin kindle]

Omg yeah, i mean i'll happily try to make a compat but........ map compats.... scare me..

[autumn tide]

[autumn tide]

maps scare me

[ornate locust]

I don't even mind doing that, you should see the terrifying web of compatibility patches I have for SVE + Ridgeside + festivals

[autumn tide]

they are the bane of my very existance

[ornate locust]

because of course my building shows in Ridgeside's updated festival maps too

[elfin kindle]

I made Mirren just go poof for one update if you had SVE, and i posted the update at 4am and slept for like 8h before i got up and saw there was a huge issue

[merry river]

claude is dwarbus sve compatible

[autumn tide]

[modest dagger]

Simple solution; ur npcs ignore festivals

[autumn tide]

[ornate locust]

no, see, I put a BUILDING there

[cyan marsh]

I am terrible at mapping.. I always outsource

[ornate locust]

so the building is what half my compat is for

[elfin kindle]

DUDE i'm already getting confused and i don't even have that many compats set up yet. I was lucky that most other big mods work fine, it was just SVE that needed a big patch

[ornate locust]

and it bugs ME when buildings vanish for festivals

[merry river]

wait how does a building end up showing up in rsv

[modest dagger]

Magic

[elfin kindle]

I think I've become... decent?? at map making?? i've done A LOT of trial and error

[cyan marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-23140940

[merry river]

OHHH wait you mean the patched vanilla events?? idk let them just hang out in front of it

[autumn tide]

that's what i do when i get stuck with art LOL, it's just 'okay [modding friend], what can i help with for your mod because i am thissss close to pulling out my hair over THESE STUPID PORTRAITS'

[ornate locust]

The festival area up north if you turn on Ridgeside festival maps in town

[elfin kindle]

I have the ice festival patched quite intensely but.. so far i haven't had any bug reports about it?

[autumn tide]

thank god for cryptids who wouldn't even attend

[ornate locust]

My building is here, so the top shows and the left side has to be unblocked for festivals

there is normally a cliff there so it's mostly not a problem with positioning

but yeah I patched every festival and there's variants for SVE and Ridgeside etc

[ornate trellis]

the moment crabpot fish are added slightly different than normal fish

[elfin kindle]

Also, im a game artist student, i am fully aware that players just.. don't read and they don't get why you need to make a proper bug report (and just say "Mirren isn't showing up" like okay great, what do you want me to do about that??) but sometimes i am baffled just slightly. Since setting up a proper FAQ and bug report instructions it's gotten better

[autumn tide]

oooh that sounds like a lot..

[ornate locust]

and it works great and I am so satisfied when I see it there and all the other modded stuff around it working fine

wait I may have a screenshot of my favorite compatibility bit, I hope I do...

[elfin kindle]

OH RIGHT YOURE THE MOD AUTHOR OF THAT ONE, i've seen a lotta love for it, you're ahead of me for mod of the month too! I hope you win dude, it's such a neat mod!

[autumn tide]

YES omg every comment section on a mod i see is just 'well it just doesn't work. what's a log?'

[ornate locust]

okay here it is, I noticed Mr Ginger had problems

FIXED IT

[elfin kindle]

I love when they stop replying when i ask them to do something for me lololol "pls show a log, heres how you do it" and then im g h o s t e d

[autumn tide]

AAAA it's perfect!

[ornate locust]

he likes to be tall

[elfin kindle]

CUTE

very smart honestly

[ornate locust]

omg thank you! I haven't tried yours, but he looks neat. I've been in testing land

[cyan marsh]

<.< lately someone has started shotgunning AI made mods on nexus... makes me cry T^T

[autumn tide]

ah, i do not play SDV

[autumn tide]

ugh them...

[elfin kindle]

Oh no yeah same, i haven't tested yours either to be fully honest here 🤝

[inner harbor]

I moved Taro in ine festival cos she overlapped with one of mine...

[autumn tide]

i have them blocked so it doesn't piss me off lol

[ornate locust]

The AI mod guy doesn't even write their own descriptions BTW

[elfin kindle]

Omg yeah i've seen them

[autumn tide]

I KNOW OMFG

[cyan marsh]

i am aware

[ornate locust]

those are also AI, they admitted it in a comment that one of the claims was "AI exaggerating"

[autumn tide]

it's not a- IT'S B

[ornate locust]

physically pained me

[cyan marsh]

he's not doing anything wrong.. soooo I am forced to see them..

[autumn tide]

____ in sdv is often 1, 2, and 3, but NOT ANYMORE CAUSE IT ISN'T A IT'S B

[elfin kindle]

I had a person translate my mod into turkish using ai and ALSO put my art through AI just to get a turkish flag in the background and i was HORRIFIED. I have put in three different spots that you cant put ANY of my stuff through ANY ai model. I called them out and they actually apologised and took it down so i was lucky

[merry river]

oh yeah i've complained about this guy already.
i'm ripping out my hair over event debugging like any humble scholar would and this guy keeps shitting out bad mods (and apparently the c# coding is really bad too?)

[inner harbor]

The mod that literally promised an NPC and items and everything else but was literally just some C# code to add fertilizer or composting or something I think.

[gentle rose]

I mean several of the mods are misleading about what they do or flat out don’t do anything, does that not count as wrong

[autumn tide]

i have ✨the audacity✨ to block them and hide them on nexus lol

...pigduck-

[ornate locust]

never forget the pigduck

[autumn tide]

thank god they took it down-

[inner harbor]

I think "doesn't work as advertised" should be a valid blocking from Nexus (I think the soil one did get removed?)

[autumn tide]

all hail pigduck

[elfin kindle]

Like what did they do to my boy....

[inner harbor]

or in the case of some non- AI mods but incomplete ones "Doesn't work at all". Which I've seen a couple of times.

[ornate locust]

oh gross just a weird AI smear over it killing freckles

[autumn tide]

nooo he looks like he's crying blood-

[inner harbor]

custom NPC files with no assets in them.

[brittle pasture]

that "roadmap" is still comical to me lol
I'd bet half my paycheck if the AI model they are using can actually accomplish half that stuff in 5 years

[whole raptor]

My "favorite" AI mod name is "Stardew Valley - Safe Mode Loader - Mod Isolation Tool" which when you de-AI it is just... barebones mod manager

[merry river]

THEY YASSIFIED HIM????

[cyan marsh]

i told him this on one of his mods and he actually made it.. the mad man.. (he has deleted it since)

[gentle rose]

dw the roadmap is aigen too

[autumn tide]

bitchhhh

[gentle rose]

I saw that one, it had me rolling

[autumn tide]

(not you!)

[cyan marsh]

yep.. that was my fault

[elfin kindle]

They yassified my awful man

[cyan marsh]

it's fine xD

[gentle rose]

then they had the audacity to put in the description of that mod that it was boring

[ornate locust]

He tried to say it was the first mod to do what it did, but it isn't, UI Info Suite 2 also shows the dang weather

[autumn tide]

how could they 😭

[gentle rose]

oh I saw your comment too

[inner harbor]

Did anyone look at ErraticPixels "Just saying hi" mod that was up for 5 minutes? Do you think its using AI?

[whole raptor]

So that's where it came from, I was actually wondering what was the reason behind that mod

[autumn tide]

i'm not mad (i am mad), I'm disappointed (murderous rage) /j

[elfin kindle]

Someone said the dog really just stares into your sould. And the dog was de-yassified (no more heterochromia)

[cyan marsh]

that guy eh?

[autumn tide]

hmm i am not aware of this

[gentle rose]

no, it isn’t ai (it’s just slop with no permissions)

[inner harbor]

yeh, he started stirring up the Reddit crew.

[autumn tide]

hmm alr

[inner harbor]

he's got 17000 lines of dialogue and they feel... like someone put the dialogue into a machine and told it to condense it, at least to me.

https://github.com/CodingDilettante/Just-Saying-Hi-Continuation/blob/main/i18n/default.json

[elfin kindle]

y i k e s

[gentle rose]

it’s possible but who knows. I have the guy blocked though

[autumn tide]

wait is that the actual number-

[merry river]

ErraticPixel rings a bell.....

[autumn tide]

i-

[inner harbor]

Eyvind has never said "hi" in his life.

[merry river]

wait i see this person comment on every single mod

[uncut viper]

i understand that no one (including myself) likes AI mods but I feel like there's a point where it's no longer server-abidingly-politely discussing them and instead just becomes concentrated bashing of one or two people and I feel like this has gone pretty past that point...

[gentle rose]

he comments on like every mod he isn’t blocked from, yeah

[cyan marsh]

EP... has history

[autumn tide]

that's fair, we should try and tone it down a bit

[merry river]

oh no, now i can't help but imagine him say a very cutesy 'hi'

[inner harbor]

yeah, he likes to stir up people on Reddit. Got them all riled up on the "mod author permissions are too strict" bandwagon.

[cyan marsh]

you ever see his error logs? xD

[inner harbor]

nah, he wouldn't share them, but I've heard about them.

I believe he was also using the name Monthy

[cyan marsh]

i've seen them.. there's a reason why some people are mean to him lol

[whole raptor]

Oh I think I did see that thread

[inner harbor]

the "CA allows it so everyone else should to" people really frustrate me.

[merry river]

huh. how so.... aren't most of them just "don't train ai on my mods and don't reupload anywhere, ask for permission for anything else"

[gentle rose]

there’s a reason. if nexus ever needs more, I have like five of them saved (I gave up reporting them after a while of being told I’m imagining things when trying to report though)

[cyan marsh]

CA allows what?

[whole raptor]

It made me laugh.. like what kind of bs reasoning is that

[autumn tide]

ugh :(
like not everyone has millons of ppl own their game

[gentle rose]

(I think this is the permissions thing, not the other thing)

[inner harbor]

people to add content for his NPCs

yeah, permissions. I'm not touching the other side of things.

(but if anyone wants to DM me a log, go for it)

[cyan marsh]

Oh thank gods... i felt the world straying further away

[inner harbor]

(I've heard it from enough people to know its obviously not just a rumor)

[gentle rose]

(give me a sec and I will)

[inner harbor]

yeah, the permissions were what was getting people in the thread riled.

[autumn tide]

yeah, but the internet is just a pissy place overall

[cyan marsh]

e.e if you can't make anything original don't make anything at all

[brittle pasture]

I don't necessarily agree with this being written as official policy because people can make mistakes when uploading their mods (last minute edits to the manifest breaks the json), but maybe we can delineate a line between that and "this mod posts a feature list comparable to entire expansions while only logging a console line"

[cyan marsh]

the old Sailor moon weapon mod guy got mad when I made my own version with original sprites cause I undercut him

I'm happy they still work

[inner harbor]

as someone who once uploaded a mod with a broken json for 2 days before checking the bug reports, yeah, I get that, I was more "promises the sun but gives you trash".

[merry river]

can't we all just hold hands and skip across a beautiful meadow peacefully

[autumn tide]

no i dont wanna touch the grass- /j

[cyan marsh]

This community is both the most friendly and the most savage x3

[inner harbor]

I have allergies

[whole raptor]

As someone who advertised my mod being compatible with something and it actually wasn't, cause for 2 years include had a typo... yeah, I get it 😅

(No one actually reported it, which was interesting..)

[autumn tide]

IK ppl are so nice to newcomers but also will viciously tear apart ppl who use AI like a pack of rabid wolves so...

[brittle pasture]

yeah I was mostly worried bad actors may weaponize the wording against mods with bugs

[stray hemlock]

Let's all have a picnic together, wait until sunset, make a big fire and dance around it.

[autumn tide]

alr! who are we burning /s

[uncut viper]

i don't think being savage is something to be proud of

[ornate locust]

There's a difference between "broken" and "literally is not coded to do the thing it says it does"

[ornate trellis]

only if we light the fire like burning man

[stray hemlock]

Pierre nobody ofc

[cyan marsh]

AI art, in my opinion, is souless. I spent a good amount of time learning to do what I can do.. I'm not great.. but at least I put my effort in x3

[elfin kindle]

I mean the shitty ai mods will probably (hopefully) weed themselves out when peopel start noticing the issues and the pattern

[merry river]

idk people are too comfortable using gen ai which is pretty much bad for several reasons but that's a whole other r discussion

[autumn tide]

yeahh, AI is frustrating but the real problem lies with the corporations rather than the ppl who use them

[merry river]

that too

[cyan marsh]

(CoD uses a lot of AI.. you can tell)

[whole raptor]

Eh, for me AI isn't the problem, it's how you use it is very often the problem (like with everything)

[autumn tide]

i'm not saying that using AI is justifiable, but we do tend to put much more blame on enablers than those actually doing the harm

[stray hemlock]

The real problem lies with people using it incorrectly. AI is excellent at parsing text, but not good at doing art or anything that requires actual understanding or emotions.

[elfin kindle]

My mentality is that i cannot control what other people do, just what i do and what i allow people to do with my stuff. I was simply firm with the person who broke the rules, i was never mean and that's the attitude i try to keep

[cyan marsh]

My Razzy bot in my discord can do AI art.. i use it for silly things

[autumn tide]

YES most generative AI things are imo misused, AI should be for processing data rather than creating stuff

[cyan marsh]

AI is fun when you make silly things for a cheap laugh xD

[stray hemlock]

It's all fun and games until people get exploited.

[autumn tide]

i would probably feel that way too but i tend to overreact, so my irritation at the misuse of AI prevents me from doing that sorta stuff

god i miss when AI was just those WEIRD videos of the rock eating rocks-

[cyan marsh]

it's fine.. i hate when people use AI and considers themself an artist..

I know a guy who released an AI music album on spotify... As I make music, I find it offensive

[elfin kindle]

I hate public/commercially available AI, full stop. Too many caveats and excuses and "but Iiii use it for--" so i just keep it simple in 99.9% of cases

[merry river]

my stance on ai is that the upkeep of its data centers is nothing negligible and gen Ai has become sort of a cancer in society. i crave like 3 years ago when it wasn't a thing
Ai should make our lives easier but instead it's replacing creative work of any kind

i don't think ai should be available for the broad masses like this

[autumn tide]

yess AI should have limited use

[whole raptor]

Wasn't it the same with almost all technological advancements tho..?

[autumn tide]

hm, that's true

[cyan marsh]

But this AI is used by scammers

[ornate locust]

It's also draining water from places that need it the most

Sorry, you can't take a shower, we really need to cool data centers for the dumbest thing imaginable.

[autumn tide]

historically, many inventions followed that pattern, but imo AI is unnecessary enough that it is an overall negative in its current use

[ornate trellis]

isn't it also making it harder and harder for regular people to build their own comps because the companies who use ai in their shit keep needing all the ram sticks or w/e for their AI hellhole computer

[calm nebula]

Button, how is that lovely mod dependency graph

[uncut viper]

ive still never made a thing that would auto update it and commit it for me every month

[merry river]

except that the technological advancements didn't rip off artists and writers and couldn't create fake news to be used for a propaganda

[uncut viper]

so i still just manually download the latest monthly stats whenever pathos posts them to update it manually

[elfin kindle]

Besides, AI rarely works the way it's intended to. It doesn't make work places more efficient, it doesn't do customer service well and bah

[autumn tide]

cmon, we should chill a little here

[whole raptor]

Can't disagree with that

[uncut viper]

sometimes if i remember i get it updated before pathos posts the stats bc i happen to check early

[whole raptor]

Sure, but it made A LOT of other jobs basically obsolete

[uncut viper]

i have been thinking about using that library's history feature to animate mods popping up over time... but idk if theres really enough data yet to be interesting

[lucid iron]

Yea shits expensive

[autumn tide]

historically stuff like cameras WERE used for scams, like the victorian ghost photo scams

[merry river]

oh i didn't mean to offend, i am all for technological progress but i think ai is better used elsewhere

[brittle pasture]

RAM prices are up 400% yay

[calm nebula]

Would be fun!

[lucid iron]

I do think it will return to normal levels but it might take years lol

[calm nebula]

Chue I hear you have a command line mod manager

[uncut viper]

maybe in a couple years when i have more than like, 7 data points

[lucid iron]

Updooter.py?

[cyan marsh]

XP i need to get me some more HDD space

[lucid iron]

Is it really a manager

[autumn tide]

i find that sorta stuff so interesting tho...

[cyan marsh]

3TB is not enough

[lucid iron]

All it does is download

[calm nebula]

Is RAM, like normal human RAM, more expensive?

[merry river]

but it still required a skillset yknow? not just anyone could do that

[calm nebula]

Like we dont even use normal intel processors, we got super nice ones for work.

[tame burrow]

I have. I asked him to remove his mod content of my character because of it and then he tried to call me out on Reddit as being too strict with my permissions. While leaving out the... lovely context.

[brittle pasture]

this is the price history for a random consumer RAM stick from pcpartpicker

just 4 months btw

[cyan marsh]

sounds gross

[merry river]

what the fuck happened

[autumn tide]

well, (wanna clarify that i genuinely do not mean this as an argument and simply talking about the history of contempt for new tech) nowadays cameras can be used my almost anyone

[dire kestrel]

this is so disheartening

[autumn tide]

[calm nebula]

My beloved Samsung

(Yes, I'm a fucking weirdo)

[vernal crest]

Not well

[gentle rose]

I'll take some GBs, I'm on 250GB

[calm nebula]

The other thing and it may because I'm out of the loop but I don't think there has been a nice new RAM technology breakthrough in some time

[tame burrow]

I don't even really care about the AI, it was so bad it was genuinely funny, but don't want to have any association with him

[molten jackal]

Hey im yoinking this meme forever

[brittle pasture]

wdym ddr5 was last-

[stray hemlock]

There are RAM technology breakthroughs?

[ornate locust]

One of the big RAM companies just changed course and won't be making RAM anymore, they're going full AI

[signal radish]

And I thought buying hardware during the pandemic was bad.

[ornate locust]

so the ram situation will NOT be getting any better

[cyan marsh]

sure.. memes are designed to be shared D:

[calm nebula]

Of fucking course lol don't diss my beloved Samsung

[autumn tide]

true-

but the tech is accessible

[ornate locust]

like if you need RAM, get it damn fast

[whole raptor]

I'm convinced all "situations" aren't getting any better ever when it comes to business/prices

[drowsy pewter]

the modding situation is off the charts 📈

[merry river]

why is ram getting so expensive now anyway
first the gpu, now this?

[ornate locust]

AI

[autumn tide]

sometimes i'm grateful to be stupid and not know anything about this

[ornate locust]

no really, AI stuff needs RAM too, that's why

[ornate trellis]

man, i wish i could find the dang context tag for when you dont wanna plonk your fish into a pond...i keep looking but i cant find it

[calm nebula]

Look at this.

[cyan marsh]

my cat peed on my GTX1080 a few months back.. i had to buy a new one.. a RTX2080TI set me back $700

[autumn tide]

...ah. of course...

[ornate locust]

cat nooo

[lucid mulch]

...how

[autumn tide]

oh god-

[gentle rose]

something within me deeply hates the facts that computer circuits really are just physical logic gates

[lucid mulch]

are you keeping gpus on shelves instead of inside a case?

[cyan marsh]

he was having blockages.. he couldn't help himself.. i'm not mad at him >: he almost died

[brittle pasture]

you can edit the default entry to ban your fish by adding !id_o_urfish

[calm nebula]

Y

[autumn tide]

i mean once the foster kitten shat on my pillow so-

[cyan marsh]

the case has vents on the top..

[autumn tide]

aww :( i'm glad he's okay!

[brittle pasture]

@ornate trellis forgor to pong

[ornate locust]

Pillows are cheaper

[gentle rose]

I don't know! it's some deep rooted instinct

[autumn tide]

YEAH but i loved that pillowww

[ornate trellis]

hmmmm

[cyan marsh]

i was crying for days.. he had emergency surgery and now he's on a special(expensive) diet

[brittle pasture]

(there is no tag for banning a fish from ponds otherwise)

[lucid mulch]

https://xkcd.com/1349/

xkcd: Shouldn't Be Hard

(six hours later) ARGH. How are these stupid microchips so durable?! All I want is to undo a massive industrial process with household tools!

[autumn tide]

how's he doing rn?

[calm nebula]

The physicality of the logic gates matter

[ornate trellis]

i swear i thought i saw one before, huh...

[whole raptor]

I gotta remember this design flaw for when I'm building a PC... 😅 Also.. why? Wouldn't it gather more dust that way?

[brittle pasture]

(if your fish is tagged with stuff like fish_lake or fish_ocean you're gonna have to ban those entries as well)

[gentle rose]

I know! that's the part I hate!

[autumn tide]

aww :) he's so cute

[lucid mulch]

I have my PC mounted onto the underside of my desk, so I dont have a top to be exposed (and have to do case purchasing around not needing top vents)

[cyan marsh]

Sergeant Sprinkles is happy

[brittle pasture]

closest thing is the "ban from seedmaker" tag for crops?

[autumn tide]

aaa that's such a cute name :)

[brittle pasture]

or the fish_has_roe tag which does not actually control whether the feesh makes roe in pond (only if it gives roe when you catch it after reading the book that makes fish give you roe when fishing)

[cyan marsh]

his brother is Revan

[autumn tide]

he looks so squishable...

[cyan marsh]

Revan is violent D:

[autumn tide]

pfft-

[merry river]

i love seeing the community's cats (or pets in general). makes me happy

[autumn tide]

my cats ngl

[autumn tide]

speaking offff it's time to bomb this channel with photos of my cats-

[cyan marsh]

lol don't go overboard now ❤️

[autumn tide]

oh, or programming off-topic

[autumn tide]

oh wait it's active rn :(

[merry river]

just drop in with a photo of your cats like "CAT BOMB" And leave /j

[autumn tide]

ykw we can move the cat bombing to my mod thread one sec

[elfin kindle]

Oh right now i need to remember all the stuff i learnt weeks ago.. Like can i tell the game to replace texture A from the game with texture B from the game... Or is it only stuff from my mod folder it's gonna "FromFile" from?

[calm nebula]

@next plaza cats!

[brittle pasture]

nop

[elfin kindle]

Ahhhh... that makes things more difficult... hrmmm...

[brittle pasture]

our resident C# criminals may or may not be working on something for that

if you need to use a non-Map tilesheet in maps there is a mod for that already though

[elfin kindle]

lololol bless them, i'll see if i can figure out a solution anyways

[elfin kindle]

No no not for maps

[brittle pasture]

what's the context? perhaps you can just use the same texture name in the relevant data?

[stray hemlock]

It should be easy with C#... but then again, learning C# from scratch isn't that easy.

[elfin kindle]

I want to set a config so it pulls like cat1 spritesheet if the config matches

Geez my brain is a little fried from getting used to my meds so i almost hit ya'll with a "så" instead of so

[autumn tide]

CAT BOMB

[elfin kindle]

Cus i would prefer not just copy and pasting the original pet sprites into the mod as that feels... bad and like a pretty ugly solution

[calm nebula]

What do you need it for

What is the context

[stray hemlock]

And also not really compatible with mods that change them.

[calm nebula]

What are you using it for

[lucid iron]

well u can always be sinful and make them a temporaryAnimatedSprite the whole way

but idk i think petActor or tempActor should solve ur cat problem?

[brittle pasture]

TAS is awesome and I'm tired of people being scared of them (modder who only used TAS to display a static sprite for 5 seconds)

[ornate trellis]

i dont think that was is, i think it was fish related but maybe im just hallucinating...

[calm nebula]

You're hallucinating

We're a hallucinations

[lucid iron]

TAS is awsome i keep finding new fun knobs to expose

[calm nebula]

You're gonna wake up soon

[merry river]

omg fellow void i just saw..... there's Ourple grass now?!?

[lucid iron]

scaleChangeChange

[ornate trellis]

indeed there is

[elfin kindle]

OKAY
So my mod replaces ALL cat sprites to my custom made one but people want to choose so I'm setting up a config.
I want to be able to set it so it just replaces all the cat sprites with a base cat spritesheet if you want the original pet look. So if the cat config is set to "brown cat" you get the brown cat from my mod, if you set "orange cat" you get the base game orange cat.

[ornate trellis]

goddamnit, not again

[elfin kindle]

I tried petActor so many times, it doesn't work

[calm nebula]

(The nerd in me wants to point out that is a second derivative)

[stray hemlock]

Idea: You can have a simple C# mod that on game start symlinks the XNB to your mod stuff.

Don't do that

[merry river]

rubbing my gay little hands. one step further into the purple boggification of my game

[calm nebula]

Why not make your own pet

[lucid iron]

what of tempActor?

that one isn't tied to a pet picked by player

[ornate trellis]

AHA! fish_pond_ignore I knew it!!

[elfin kindle]

I did, people are complaining- So i thought i'd be nice to set up so they could choose

[lucid iron]

it's just a texture from Characters/

[elfin kindle]

It's not high on my priority but now im like on the brain thought train of finding a solution

[ornate trellis]

i do a lot of OURple lately lol its a nice vibe :3c

[lucid iron]

ig i need more context on what the entity is intended to be (always your special cat? always the player's pet?)

[autumn tide]

i gotta know, what's the origin of ourpule?

[elfin kindle]

It's suppose to be the pet you adopt in the beginning from marnie ^^"

[brittle pasture]

WOW good find, I didn't think to check the decompile 🥲

[ornate trellis]

I checked tias how to make a fish tutorial lol

[brittle pasture]

it's also documented on the context tags page which I should have also checked

[devout otter]

I assume for story purpose it's important that the pet is exactly the one adopted from Marnie?

[lucid iron]

did u look at the toothless mod https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/35306

[ornate trellis]

there was a tiktok with a cat that had purple spots and someone mispelled the word in the comments

[lucid iron]

that one's got the most extensive petActor use that i know of

[autumn tide]

aww :)

this feels underwheling for such a hallowed mod..

[ornate trellis]

ngl i looked and didnt find it but i guess i shouldve CTRL+F

[elfin kindle]

So the idea was to use the players pet to get the npc story rolling, i couldn't get that to work so i simply made a fake NPC with the cat/dog sprites i made myself and then replaced all other cat/dog sprites with my custom one. Which works, but people always want more/j So since people have been asking (someone even said it was "unfair" lolol) i thought i could at least look at a config option

[merry river]

you get me i wanted to make a recolor to make winter more ourple rather than it being an eye-killing laser but i have yet to figure out how and how to make it look good

[elfin kindle]

I'd have to make another event adopting the mod cat, but I'd also like the mod cat to live on the farm organically which i don't know how you'd do

[lucid iron]

oh i made a traction for that

[autumn tide]

hmm CC?

!cc

[ocean sail]

Custom Companions (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8626) is a framework for creating custom entities such as animals, creatures, and monsters that can be spawned on maps or follow you around. See the mod’s in-depth wiki https://github.com/Floogen/CustomCompanions/wiki for details on how to create content packs for it.

To use this command, type !cc.

[stray hemlock]

Mandatory:
#making-mods-general message

[ornate trellis]

tbh a ourple recolor i had in mind too but so far i never got far because i scoped creeped myself too hard with other projects lol

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/LivestockBazaar/blob/main/author-guide.md#trigger-action-action-mushymatolivestockbazaar_adoptpet-petid-breedid-petname

[cyan marsh]

hmm do i have a UCR here?

[lucid iron]

u can adopt a pet instantly with this

[devout otter]

Probably preferable to make it behave like pet system-wise. So I'd suggest chu's traction.

[cyan marsh]

(no one talks about Unique Courtship Response anymore)

[lucid iron]

there's no naming step bc its for modder to name

but i could add the box if u want

[autumn tide]

i'm curious what are you all's biggest scope creep incidents so far 👀

[gentle rose]

this entire framework

[stray hemlock]

I don't do scope creeps, my scope is oversized from the start.

[cyan marsh]

NPC Creator was supposed to be a simple program...

[lucid iron]

u cant creep anything if the scope was never defined

[elfin kindle]

But it's also one of those things im like... that's the small sacrifice you'll have to make lol I am not getting worked up over something i don't feel is that big of a deal. I can at least put a config so it only overrides one pet so you can have multiple without them being copies.

[uncut viper]

i dont accept scope creep bc im very good at telling people i dont want to do something if i dont genuinely want to do it

[lucid iron]

its merely a realignment

[autumn tide]

extra credit for origins 👀

[uncut viper]

this includes myself

[gentle rose]

origin: dacar

[elfin kindle]

I really appreciate it and i might look into it in the future but I prefer having as few other mod dependencies as possible ^^

[devout otter]

"I will give portraits to every extra characters that has name like Marcello, Kel and MarILDA" --> whoops portraits for every extra ever.

[autumn tide]

impressive-

[merry river]

i made three separate map patches and am giving my npc two possible aromantic relationship options and am annoying poor modders with my inability to retain information

[cyan marsh]

Most of my mods don't have problems with scope creep.. Add some music in once in a while for my music mod.. but nothing that would require anything more than just updating code

[ornate trellis]

chu is p good in scope creeping me into adding more things to my fishmonger mod atm but maybe its a symbiotic relationship with me wanting unique grass and chu being like i got you fam

[stray hemlock]

Is It Possible to Learn This Power?

[uncut viper]

yes, EditData on Data/Powers

[elfin kindle]

Yeye exactly, im doing this in my free time for fun, if you don't think it's fair that i have one requirement to make my vision then well... whomp whomp?

[autumn tide]

HAH

[merry river]

i wanted to react then unrreacted by accident. go, me

[autumn tide]

hmm well my mod started as a minor dialog mod for krobus so...

uhm

[devout otter]

Personally, it's the power of laziness. Super convenient.

[modest dagger]

me: i want this weird feature in my mod
selph: i gotchu
I am scopecreeped simply by the possibility of it being possible

[autumn tide]

the scope creeped scopecreeped-

[ornate trellis]

the endless cycle™

[next plaza]

I appreciate being notified of cats.

[uncut viper]

content modders actually have it easier with scope creep. if you can write C#, theres no excuse you can use for being unable to implement something

[next plaza]

disappears once again

[ornate trellis]

lets see if i added my crabpot fish right

[autumn tide]

byeee

[stray hemlock]

So we can summon you with cats?

[merry river]

i remember when you started and i am always scared of coming off as weird but felt like encouraging you because i have been desperately searching for more krontent (krobus content)

[cyan marsh]

(Event Repeater has unfinished code to evaluate events and show errors)

[autumn tide]

this is why im grateful for being dumb

[next plaza]

Exhibit A: me turning stardew into a VR game (and therefore, also 3D)

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6800 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1448474231515119727)

[royal stump]

I can't say no to scope creep, but I can say "I'll write that in my 30,000 line text file" and forget it's there

[next plaza]

Depends on if I recognize the name of who pinged me 😛

[autumn tide]

omg i was rlly happy when i got that notif :)

[uncut viper]

exhibit A so far

[elfin kindle]

I take things one at a time, like little DLC thinsg PFFT and I wanna look around for fun mods that i can patch Mirren to have cus i love a lot of the mods that expand NPC's and interactions and i would love if Mirren could be included

[lucid iron]

i design most of me mods as being highly optional

[brittle pasture]

(the mod would have been a regular artisan expansion with only a minimal C# element for the sewing mechanic)
(fun fact, I've now received a request for a "lite" version without the skill because that part doesn't work on mobile apparently. full circle moment)

[cyan marsh]

(Event Repeater dumps event logs to help you find out where a problem is... not many people know that)

[stray hemlock]

Makes sense.

[next plaza]

Remind me in 20 years to mod stardew into full dive VR if it has finally happened

[uncut viper]

whats broken on mobile?

[lucid iron]

so that you can be like "btw if you have livestock bazaar the cat shall live with you"

[next plaza]

...wow, uber doesn't support reminders that are 20 years away?

smh

[autumn tide]

awww it didn't work

[elfin kindle]

But i released a fully functioning mod that's pretty solid. Since then I've done the SVE compat and then a festival outfit addition. Now the plan is to add a couple more events and creepy phonecalls

[lucid iron]

but yea for ur actual problem, i wouldn't worry about it too much either

[autumn tide]

..thats like 70000 days or some shit right?

[elfin kindle]

Omg i need to remember this

[uncut viper]

(by whats broken i mean like is there specific code you know breaks, not just "the sewingf skill" lol)

[next plaza]

anyways disappearing for real now bye

[lucid iron]

a simple config off is sufficient to me

[autumn tide]

hmm afaik you can remind other ppl..

[brittle pasture]

I asked them as such; it might just be SpaceCore tbh

[devout otter]

I'm very easily scope-crept by cool shiny frameworks. Very hard to be scope-crept by "please do this also for [insert other mod I don't use]" requests.

[calm nebula]

Knitting skill when

[uncut viper]

i thought there was an android spacecore fork

[calm nebula]

Dont eyes me

[brittle pasture]

there is

[calm nebula]

My knitting skill is top notch

[lucid iron]

ppl never grab it

[brittle pasture]

it's just reskinned sewing but you can knit scarves/mittens/socks from yarn

[lucid iron]

its low discoverability for github reasons

[stray hemlock]

I read that as "Knifing" and was concerned.

[calm nebula]

My knifing skills are also excellent

[calm nebula]

Yay! With multiple yarns?

[brittle pasture]

you can embroider it with more yarn yes

[calm nebula]

[autumn tide]

remind kittycatcasey in 7300 days to mod stardew into full dive VR if it has finally happened

...?

[brittle pasture]

so you can have 2 color combinations for the item

[autumn tide]

dammit

[brittle pasture]

• 1 more for gemstones

[elfin kindle]

Bless ya!

[calm nebula]

Pretty

[devout otter]

Still sometimes think about the multiple people who ask for compatibility between Piper (a mod that gives Caroline a loving, stable marriage) and Childhood Sweetheart Caroline (a mod where she gets a divorce). Like... what exactly do you expect the author to do here?

[stray hemlock]

Can you remind other people?

[autumn tide]

[autumn tide]

says so on uberbot's site, but i dont wanna ping casey if she's busy

[cyan marsh]

e.e i need a snak

[lucid iron]

[merry river]

schrödinger's marriage

[upper rune]

My mod is finally updated! https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/31119?tab=description

[autumn tide]

oh nice!!! i love that one :)

want me to feature it?

[upper rune]

Thank you! Yes please

[modest dagger]

I saw the screenshot and thought it was mine for a second, glad to see i'm not the only one who does it that way lmao

[stray hemlock]

Next make it compatible with the one where she gets with the wizard pls \s

[autumn tide]

and the mod that makes pierre anti-social

[cyan marsh]

not a lot of people download my music mod T^T as much as I'm a modder, I'd rather be recognized for my music

[merry river]

omg how come i've never seen this mod before.
should maybe close discord and go to bed to browse and try new mods...

[autumn tide]

oooh what's the link?

[autumn tide]

orrr go to bed to sleep bc it's past 1am for you 😌

[cyan marsh]

#mod-showcase message

Comment section has all the music there to listen to

[autumn tide]

tysm :)

[cyan marsh]

I just updated it all to ogg files... 1.8GB turned to only 300mb

[autumn tide]

huh, that's nice!

oooh can i use some of your music for mod events?