making-mods-general

[verbal narwhal]

maybe i am so confused because i have problems differentiating the exact use case of smapi and content patcher?

[lucid iron]

That said it's a good idea to prefix your map properties with your mod id, camiska.Froggos_FrogTankRect and so on

Content patcher is just a C# mod itself, so obviously everything it can do is also doable in your own C#

But you can do loads of things without ever touching C# bc editing game content is a powerful tool

[verbal narwhal]

mhm

I am scared to ask but if anyone has the time and willingness to take a look at me code, I would be veeery thankful

and it works currently very well

[lucid iron]

Code auditing

Well if u put it on git or pastebin I'll look

But I will warn you that im very peculiar about this kind of thing

[verbal narwhal]

I fear you might hate me afterwards then

aahh

[lucid iron]

It's ok i understand that people probably find my code peculiar too

[gentle rose]

I can also take a glance

I'm strange in a different way to chu, maybe we'll balance out

[lucid iron]

We can be team rocket together

Duke is meowth

[gentle rose]

sold

[verbal narwhal]

https://pastebin.com/ewLHZ5WU

i added some quick annotations

and thank you very much

[lucid iron]

For interaction, maybe you can use a map tile action there

If you edit that to the spouse room tmx then you don't have to guess where tank

[verbal narwhal]

but I thought this way might make if flexible for mods that edit the spouse room tmx

or is that unnecessarily complicated?

[gentle rose]

I'm not sure if this will work with poly mods if they have someone else's spouse room

[lucid iron]

GameLocation.RegisterTileAction

Well you don't have to erase the whole tmx or anything

Just add 1 tile property Action at Buildings level

[gentle rose]

and I'm really not sure how well this will work in multiplayer, have you tested that?

[lucid iron]

This mod generally won't work with poly mods because it's checking a single spouse

[verbal narwhal]

i tried to host two instances of sdv and test it but it didnt work (I blame stardrop)

[gentle rose]

do they not just extend HasNpcSpouseOrRoommate?

I haven't delved into their code tbh

[gentle rose]

why not try split screen mp?

[lucid iron]

Not that I know of, but you can just use the api if you really want to support it

[gentle rose]

anyway I'll take another look in a sec in an actual ide, I need my syntax highlighting

[verbal narwhal]

oh i thought this might handle this

            {
                var room = spouseData?.SpouseRoom;
                if (room != null)
                {
                    if (room.MapSourceRect.Width > 0) width = room.MapSourceRect.Width;
                    if (room.MapSourceRect.Height > 0) height = room.MapSourceRect.Height;
                }
            }```

after looking into custom spouse rooms

[gentle rose]

the thing about that is it just falls back to a default position, so if there's weirdness where Sebastian IS their spouse but that's not his spouse room, it will do weird things

[verbal narwhal]

I tried that too but it wanted me to press a button on my controller that my controller didn't have and I tried pressing every button on my controller and nothing happened and while typing this out I feel like a toddler

[gentle rose]

oh dw that happens, are you on a playstation controller?

[verbal narwhal]

xbox 360

[gentle rose]

oh what button was it asking for?

(I forgot lmao)

[verbal narwhal]

three horizontal lines

[gentle rose]

that should be the little one to the right of the Xbox logo I think

it might be labelled start?

[verbal narwhal]

lemme try it again

[gentle rose]

or it might be the back button (other side of the logo)

[glossy cargo]

A bug I encountered in my mod, while working on a meme bundle

[lucid iron]

I remember you having quite a time detecting the frogs but since it turns out the froges are a special class do u actually need to check all the other stuff

I wonder if this is sufficient

int frogeCount = farmhouseLocation.TemporarySprites.Count((tas) => tas is SebsFrogs);

[verbal narwhal]

so far it at least doesnt spawn in the wrong houses!

and both can interact with the farmer frog tank

now to create a save file where the farmhand has married sebastian q.q

[verbal narwhal]

what do you mean with other stuff?

[lucid iron]

Checking for precise frog frames i mean

[verbal narwhal]

I also had the problem in earlier builds that suddently the interaction and croaking and stuff worked but the tank became passable

[karmic gust]

Is there a way to clear objects spawned on a map for an event? Like shells on the beach, for example

[lucid iron]

The secrions labeled desperate logic to detect frog

[karmic gust]

I have an item placed in the event but a foreagable spawned in the same spot

[verbal narwhal]

but sebs frogs is just handling the animation, right?

the frog spawning happens in farmhouse

[lucid iron]

You just want to know how many sebsfrogs entities are in the farmhouse right

[verbal narwhal]

ohh

yeah maybe that is genius

oh gosh

i spent way too long on my frog detection system (and true it currently still reads as very wonky and unnecessary long)

[lucid iron]

Dw i feel the same when I come back to whatever spaget i wrote last night

😌

[karmic gust]

Actually just figured it out, changeToTemporaryMap rather than changeLocation did the trick

[verbal narwhal]

unironically i spent the literal night on it

[azure hound]

can anyone explain in simple terms (because of my smol brain) how to make this give me water please LMAO

[fossil osprey]

No idea personally, but maybe it's worth looking into how the well does it?

[drowsy pewter]

is that a map? not a building?

[azure hound]

i believe it's just something i have to input into tiled but i have no clue

[drowsy pewter]

tiledata, check the vanilla greenhouse map

[azure hound]

it is a map! i should've explained

[drowsy pewter]

and you can copy the tiledata directly fom the greenhouse map

[hard fern]

Back layer Water T tiledata

[azure hound]

ohhh it has to be on the back layer? that's my problem then!

thank you!

[drowsy pewter]

its actually WaterSource

Water T will add the water ripple overlay to it

[azure hound]

ooh, thank you! this is what i had, it was just on the wrong layer i believe

[verbal narwhal]

ahh and it also works for multiplayer if the farmhand married sebastian!

[hard fern]

Oh right there's too muvh water in this game

[azure hound]

YESS thank you! it works!

[hard fern]

I have no idea what one water is vs another 😔

[azure hound]

tiled is so complicated

[soft lance]

what. is. this. mod.

That is so cute what is thisssss

[azure hound]

i'm fiddling around with a farm map, you're just looking at something that can refill my watering can

[soft lance]

ohhh okayy

fishiessss : D

finally added their aquarium sprite

[verbal narwhal]

I would have to make two tile actions right?
one for the upper row of the tank that is passable but clickable and a second tile action that is impassable but clickable for the lower two

or can I map this setup to a 3x3 tilemap that is a tank?

[lucid iron]

You can register 1 tile action, but yes you need to add it to 2 tiles (or more)

[verbal narwhal]

I dont think I understand that - maybe on a semantic level

(but english isnt my first language)

[lucid iron]

Since u be in C# anyways you can just use the set map tile helpers

[lucid iron]

By register, I mean calling this (with appropriate args) in your Entry
GameLocation.RegisterTileAction(actionname, actioncallback)
You can do froge logic in the callback, trusting that you don't need to check the bounds
To make use of this registered tile action, it must be added to the map

This can be done in a number of ways, and you can associate the same map tile Action to multiple tiles

I would personally do an asset edit (AssetRequested) on the spouse room tmx

Put the tile property Action on a Buildings layer tile

[verbal narwhal]

but action can also be property, right?
can I make a custom tile property in c# that can be added to a tile in tiled?

[lucid iron]

Spouse rooms are Weird though, should double check that this will work

Action is a special kind of tile property where game promises to call your callback when it sees it

[verbal narwhal]

ok but action doesnt necessarily mean "the player makes an active action/interaction"

right?

[lucid iron]

It does

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

A vanilla example of an action is like inspecting david jr's cage and getting a message

Or interacting with robin's counter and getting her shop dialogue

[verbal narwhal]

i have been reading this, but I am confused as to if custom properties can be added?

[lucid iron]

This is how you can add a custom Action

Could name it like "camiska.Froggos_CheckSebsFrogs"

Here's a example from my mod

https://github.com/Mushymato/LivestockBazaar/blob/main/LivestockBazaar/OpenBazaar.cs#L22

Game will call this when player interact with tile https://github.com/Mushymato/LivestockBazaar/blob/main/LivestockBazaar/OpenBazaar.cs#L138

[verbal narwhal]

maybe I should focus on refining my current code first before thinking about the compatibility with another mod (which would be 14 heart events for all) that has the first frog sprite baked into the tank sprite and the tank sprite in sebs room at robin's

[lucid iron]

If you have this setup u can just register another tile action for 14 heart events for all to use

(another one because presumably the logic for froggo check is different)

[abstract gull]

Olá alguém pode me ajudar nisso por favor
Alguns mods que peguei do grupo do SMAPI não funciona no meu SMAPI

https://discord.com/channels/1223517131300274196/1281771704540205107

Esse e um dos Mods que peguei

Desculpa tá por mandar link disso aqui

Não tô com memória boa pra lembrar das coisas
Tbm eu já li as regras

[tiny zealot]

#1272025932932055121 we cannot help you in the making mods channel, and as i presume this is about android smapi the tech support channel on here probably also can't be much help

[abstract gull]

Ok obrigada viu

[soft lance]

Do you think it looks like a ribbon eel? I keep thinking I did a bad job 😭

Just getting opinions

[verbal narwhal]

I love them

[soft lance]

you dont think its bad? ;9

😭

[verbal narwhal]

it does!

no!

[soft lance]

aww tyy

[verbal narwhal]

though maybe it needs an aa darker blue pixel in the throat area

[soft lance]

hmm

lemme try

Not sure exactly but dat

dunno if those two pixels near the throat should be much darker or just like that, but the bottom right pixel is darker now

[verbal narwhal]

I personally prefer these over the first version

[soft lance]

same

[ocean sail]

@soft lance You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[verbal narwhal]

or is the lighter blue in the throat area tryin to symbolize the lower jaw?

[soft lance]

no it was quite literally a mistake on my end haha

[verbal narwhal]

do the other sprites also use black or that dark of a green for outlines?

(no idea, I sprited pokemon for the longest time where black was a nono, only for shadow areas)

[soft lance]

pure black no, im still working on the sprite

usually it shares some sort of color even if its much darker with the sprite

for example, this is how the outline should be

once i polish it some more i'll finish the outline

it should usually share a similar color variant but darker with the original sprite but am nub

[verbal narwhal]

no this looks really nice right now as it is! I was just wondering if it matches the rest

[soft lance]

Here it is with some proper shading and fixes

at least i think lol

[verbal narwhal]

precious baby

[soft lance]

all da fishies so far

ignore the white box its for measurements

a few of these come from an older mod, so 50% is made by me, I got approval by them since their mod hasnt been updated in over 2 years

had to ask before even working on it lol

[soft lance]

i love ur banner btwww

[verbal narwhal]

thanks!

[patent lance]

New quote added by chu2.718281828459045235360287471 as #6619 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1412792900151935057)

[verbal narwhal]

is maybe a harmony postfix a good idea? so I can spawn them on command and have the whole thing be easily applicable to custom tanks?

[ornate locust]

We call that Patient Zero

[lucid iron]

Uh this bit is just to count how many SebsFrogs have spawned

[verbal narwhal]

yeah but that got me thinking

[lucid iron]

You want to add SebsFrogs to like sciencehouse?

[ornate locust]

one person notices tortilla centering, MADNESS ENSUES

[lucid iron]

Doing that on the smapi Warp event should be enough, don't need to harmony imo

[verbal narwhal]

to any custom tile location that is 3x3

[lucid iron]

Yeah u can make people put a map property like

[gray bear]

tortilla goes brrr. tortilla farm map when

[lucid iron]

camiska.SebFroggos_FrogPosition

[verbal narwhal]

can smapi warp also adjust the odds? because currently it is only 85% for the first frog

[lucid iron]

You can do anything you want in C#

I only point out the means by which people can give you some custom data

So that you don't have to hardcode it all

I forget the exact name but one of the get map property helpers will parse a Vector2 for you

So you let people tell you where the top left tile of the 3x3 is

[verbal narwhal]

thanks!

this was my biggest worry the whole time

haha

[gentle rose]

at the end of the day, the entire game is just c#. when you write c# you have access to all the tools the game does (though a little less conveniently sometimes)

[lucid iron]

Pseudocode is like this
On event Warped
Get NewLocation
Check for map property camiska.SebFroggos_FrogPosition (this you define on your own)
If map property, parse a Vector2 from the values
Check conditions to spawn seb froge
Spawn the froge

[verbal narwhal]

and I really need to work on my coding/programming vocabulary
because I can do (and have learned all by looking at game code and mod code)
but what they are called or their terms? no idea
i need to look up what pseudocode means

[lucid iron]

Pseudocode = human language explain of what the code should do in some vague syntax

I guess what i wrote doesn't even count as pseudo code tbh it's just a description lol

[soft lance]

pseudocode is just "wanna-be" code, its like when your brainstorming an idea for a sprite or artwork of yours, and you make a sketch of it, that sketch is essentialy pseudocode, its not a true coding language, and it can't run, but it's a mockup of what you essentialy want

[verbal narwhal]

ah ok so just simpler terms for complex operations

[soft lance]

for Index, Value in Table
print(Index)
end

This can't run in Python, or maybe not even Luau, but its a mockup of it

For Luau it is:

"for index, value in pairs(myTable) do
print(index)
end
"

And for Python it is:

"for index, value in my_dict.items():
print(index)"

Same idea, but its just a sketch of what you want

[verbal narwhal]

and therefore predefined classes by someone who wanted other to have a nicer and easier time?

[soft lance]

its just a sketch for what you want your code to kinda look like or do

its not even needed in coding, it never will reach your code

its just a sketch for yourself

[verbal narwhal]

ah ok!

[soft lance]

Yeah, pretty close to what it kinda is, its yourself giving..well...yourself instructions on what to do

thats quite literally what it is

but of course, the instructions is just in general, its not in a specific coding language

[verbal narwhal]

that is nice

[lucid iron]

(if u don't wish to summon me here you can press the "@ On" to turn it off)

[verbal narwhal]

i usually just did annotations

does this look like a sensible approach for a harmony postfix?
https://pastebin.com/C1mMztBY

[soft lance]

Who said I didn't intend to summon you?
Who said that the moon must be aligned for this day?
Where has thou-

Nah I was just agreeing with you lol nothing else

[lucid iron]

I just mean you dont have to ping me on reply if you don't need me for stuff, not everyone is aware of that feature it seems

[lucid iron]

You do not need a harmony postfix to do this

[verbal narwhal]

Also thank you all, especially you chu, for bearing with me through all of this

[soft lance]

I hate it when no one has the notification when they reply to me or else I forget, but yeah, if I remember then I'll turn it off just for you

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Events#Player.Warped

This is the Warped event i mentioned

You can subscribe to it (i.e. add a method that will be called when this event fires)

Helper.Events.Player.Warped += YourOnWarpedMethod;

To handle the case where you wake up tho you want a DayStarted handler too

[lucid iron]

I'm not upset about it dw, it's just that i usually interpret a ping as something that needs my response
Some people are upset about it which is why you have those names

[tiny zealot]

my standard consideration is "is this person currently in the channel engaging in conversation" because it seems obtrusive to ping if so.
if the comment i'm replying to is from a while back and they don't seem to be around then i'll ping unless their username says not to (as chu says, some people are really annoyed by pings, and discord gives ping control to the sender and none to the user receiving, which is A Choice™)

[verbal narwhal]

Thanks! My husband has just finished cooking, so I’ll look into it later!

[soft lance]

What'd he cook? 👀

[verbal narwhal]

I thinks it’s chimichanga?

[soft lance]

GIVE. Lol go eat, and enjoy! That sounds very good

[verbal narwhal]

Like burrito-y thing from the oven with a cheese crust

We jokingly refer to it as Mexican lasagna

No idea what it would be actually called

But even then, it’s not authentic at all I can guarantee

[soft lance]

I understand, sometimes it is annoying, I'll turn it off for some that want it, though don't expect everyone to follow the same thing, since it's the default discord option

[soft lance]

Oh hmm..cheese crust?

Ohh yeah it prob is

I haven't had it in years so it prob is

[honest tundra]

I have made a pack of item bags for S&S. If you already play with all the mods required and would like a little more inventory space, check it out

[turbid oak]

Today I want to make another version of my Antisocial Pierre mod that takes effect by default and doesn't require a Joja membership. Will I just delete the "when" part of my original mod?

[gray bear]

yeah

[turbid oak]

Thanks. First though I want to make a mod that gives Pierre special dialogue when you give him a tortilla. That will take more effort but I want to do it first so I can test it on a new save. (I have a mod that gives me right away access to a bunch of food including tortillas).

[gray bear]

do you want change how he feels about them, like do you want him to hate them?

i think tortilla's are a universal neutral

[tiny zealot]

if it's Cooking it might be universal like

[gray bear]

it's not mentioned in the exception to prolly

[tiny zealot]

but [[Tortilla]] pierre already hates them it seems

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Tortilla

[gray bear]

id admit i know it's possible to change how an npc reacts to a certain item, but not the how

[tiny zealot]

it's not too difficult but you have to know how to wield TextOperations

[gray bear]

i don't

like i managed to change it to a universal love, but how do i make it so they say something special

[brittle pasture]

that’s handled in dialogue

[tiny zealot]

oh, i see what you mean

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Item_dialogue

[gray bear]

o

so just need to add this dialouge to pierre

can even make him reject it it seems

[tiny zealot]

but you have to do dialogue for every villager independently (or use C# to hammer it in broadly)

with CP you can't give every person the same dialogue for a universal taste (without specifying every person directly)

[gray bear]

i'll give up my niji dreams. i can just handle the indivisual ones

like having haley call me stupid for her giving her something from her hated rock

[tiny zealot]

-# this is the sort of thing that makes content modders yearn for the foreach

[obtuse wigeon]

is there a way to get patch summary asset Maps/Forest to output the name of the mod that applies a patch? rn it just has Load Maps/Forest in the name + details section

Oh wait nevermind I didn't scroll up in the terminal far enough

[tiny zealot]

when i do patch summary asset it splits up the output into one section for each content pack

[obtuse wigeon]

That's what it did but the gap between the content pack name and the rest of the data was perfectly at the top of my terminal so I didn't notice it, woops

[turbid oak]

Yeah. He already hates tortillas so I want him to go on an angry rant when you give him one. I know it's possible to give characters dialogue specific to a certain gift, just don't know how yet. Will also change his portrait when you give it to him to an angry face.

[brittle pasture]

we clearly needs SQL syntax trust

[gray bear]

pretty hecking easy

see the link selph sent

[gentle rose]

(you know what I really want now? regex key matching)

[gray bear]

you just need to add a single dialouge key to tortilla, make sure you use the item for it (it's 229 i think)

[lucid iron]

i still haven't come up with the rest of PelicanOSTGRES

Need acronym help plz

[gray bear]

yes i did memorize the tortilla ID

[gentle rose]

spring_\d\d? and summer_[MTWFS][a-z]{2} when

[obtuse wigeon]

regex matching would be fantastic for content packs, chaos for sure, but very useful

until someones mod matches when you dont want it too

[turbid oak]

Thanks. I can't wait to get started on this. I hope I have an easier time than my very first mod.

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/PeliQ?tab=readme-ov-file#mushymatopeliq_item_id_regex-targetinput-regex

[obtuse wigeon]

Chu you absolute Yoba send

[gray bear]

since you've already made one it should be easier

[gentle rose]

but what about dialogue keys

[hallow prism]

Make it a config then, rather than a new version

[lucid iron]

Dialogue should just accept GSQ :)

[uncut viper]

(it only wasnt there because i know that spacecore already has it and ive already met my quota recently for how many things i can duplicate from spacecore at once )

[turbid oak]

Does this look like it will do what I want? (text is placeholder. I want to keep the rant a surprise)

    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
    {"Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Character\Dialogue",
    "Fields": {
        "Pierre": {
            "When": {"AcceptGift_229": "I love rain.$5"
            }
        }
    }
    }
    ]
}```

[sleek flint]

Still a great mod though.

[gray bear]

uhm, how did you come by code? why is there a when?

i've many questions

[turbid oak]

I have no idea what I'm doing is the answer

[gray bear]

!unpack did you do this?

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[turbid oak]

Yes but haven't explored it a lot. I will now.

[gray bear]

do that and then look into "content (unpacked) -> characters -> dialouge" should help find the target

[turbid oak]

Thank you!

[gray bear]

this wiki page doesn't have CP examples, but i can help with that once you take a look. is it part of the code you'd be using

[turbid oak]

Should the intitial action be "EditData" or "EditCharacter"?

[gray bear]

the second one, doesn't exist.
see https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#actions

[turbid oak]

Thanks

[ornate drift]

had anyone implemented a way to make bigger sprites for NPCs in the game?

[turbid oak]

Is this right?

    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
    {"Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Character\Dialogue\Pierre",
    "Fields": {
            "AcceptGift_(0)229": "I love rain.$5"
    }
    }
    ]
}```

I see an obvious mistake

hold on

[gray bear]

it'd be entries and not fields

[turbid oak]

Thanks

[gray bear]

i'd also rec to make the value itself i18n instead of static, y'know, for the tortilla translators

but yeah that is correct

[turbid oak]

How do I do that?

[gray bear]

here be wiki.
the most easy way to explain is you just, make a folder inside your mod (not in assets, where manifest.json is) called "i18n" and inside that a json file called "default"

[uncut viper]

fields would work just as well here

[gray bear]

i never know the difference

after reading the docs im not sure what that difference is

[turbid oak]

Done. Should the "Default" file be blank or contain something?

I just noticed your link

I am very confused

Wait, will it contain a copy of my Content?

[gray bear]

no, it will contain your content

[turbid oak]

So I'll use that instead of Content.json?

[gray bear]

nope, the way it works is stores anything that could be translated. so instead of

            "AcceptGift_(0)229": "I love rain.$5"
    }```

it'd be

``` "Fields": {
            "AcceptGift_(0)229": "{{i18n:NAME-OF-VALUE}}$5"
    }```

and then in the i18n itself, you'll have whatever dialouge you want to appear. that way people can add translations easily

[soft lance]

yay

[urban patrol]

it’s (O) not (0)

[gray bear]

oh, right. what nic said

[turbid oak]

    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
    {"Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Character\Dialogue\Pierre",
    "Entries": {
            "AcceptGift_(0)229": "{{i18n:NAME-OF-VALUE}}$5"
    }
    }
    ]
}```

[urban patrol]

O stands for object

[gray bear]

i18n example in the wild

you're free to change NAME-OF-VALUE with the actual value in your i18n file

~~does i18n even accept - ~~

[turbid oak]

Thanks. So what do I put in the i18n file besides the text?

Will it be called a string?

[gray bear]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Translation#File_format

you only have one value, but this is how the i18n should look

[turbid oak]

I already have that open and am still confused

[gray bear]

can you be more specific?

[turbid oak]

I am confused what is going in the i18n file for a string of dialogue

[gray bear]

can you screenshot what you have right now? what exactly do you him to say

[turbid oak]

My Default file is blank still because I'm not sure what the code should look like. I did type out a rant (which I still want to be a surprise) but accidentally lost it

[iron ridge]

its just a key/value dictionary

[gray bear]

i18n are made of keys and values.
the key is used as a token, so you can make yours

{
"Pierre.Tortilla.Reaction": "rant goes here"
}```

[turbid oak]

Thank you so much!

[gray bear]

i need to go to bed, so can't help anymore. good luck with ur mod!

[turbid oak]

Thanks. Have a good night

I just made a new save for testing the new mod and discovered a problem with the one I made last night. Pierre is not in the list of characters even though I am not a Joja member in this brand new save. I should have thought to test it on a new save before I released it.

[oblique meadow]

Super Hypothetical question for you all. I dont even know where i'd start so I dont know if it's feasible. Let's say I wanted to add some of the games from the Stardew Valley fair to my boardwalk just to have games and such. Is that doable? Or would the work not be worth the reward?

[gentle rose]

no like, the dialogue key not the dialogue

the spring_Mon bit etc

[oblique meadow]

I know it would be C#...

[lucid iron]

You don't understand my meaning

We should just use "SEASON Spring" for the key trust

[gentle rose]

oh I see

but I want the regex so we can override all the existing dialogue, not make fallback dialogue

[lucid iron]

C# unless you get someone to make a fair games framework for you

[turbid oak]

I temporarily disabled Antisocial Pierre to test the tortilla mod. I don't know if it's doing this because I'm a Joja member in my other save or not, but either way this is a bad bug.

[gentle rose]

I want to have a way to make Abigail exclusively say lorem ipsum text with a single patch

[gentle rose]

is your mod content patcher or c#?

[turbid oak]

Content Patcher

[gentle rose]

can you send your json here with the json validator so we can have a look?

!json

rip governor

[turbid oak]

What's the json validator?

[gentle rose]

uh iirc it's https://smapi.io/json

that command was supposed to bring up the explanation and link but governor is sleeping on the job

[turbid oak]

Thanks

https://smapi.io/json/none/af79c141029a4939a7f1a460e338a999

[grave scarab]

just searched to see if there was a Welsh language pack for SV and instead got results to translate to Krobus' language

were they Welsh all along??

[turbid oak]

My tortilla mod doesn't work 🙁

Tortilla is 229, right?

[gentle rose]

krobus' language?

I thought only the dwarves had a custom language

and it's definitely not Welsh, it's a simple substitution cypher iirc

[oblique meadow]

Well given that Fair Games Framework seems like a lot of work, I guess im learning C#

Thanks Chu

[gentle rose]

oh there's also the language in the cavern and the junimo language, but those are also cyphers

[grave scarab]

(I know, just thought the possibility of the immigration was funny)

[turbid oak]

    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
    {"Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Character\Dialogue\Pierre",
    "Entries": {
            "AcceptGift_(0)229": "{{i18n:"Pierre.Tortilla.Reaction"}}$5"
    }
    }
    ]
}```

[lucid iron]

It's really not, you just gotta dehardcode the calls to various fair minigames

[gentle rose]

I'm just confused what you're talking about for a krobus language

[urban patrol]

did you see my message above? it’s (O) not (0)

[turbid oak]

Thanks! I must have missed it.

[urban patrol]

i just realized my other message accidentally replied to bea’s messages instead

[gentle rose]

oh probably just a spam thing based on SEO I'm guessing

[grave scarab]

that's the result for "stardew Valley Welsh language" and yeah unrelated spam

just found it funny

[hard fern]

Krobus is shockingly fluent in english the common language in stardew valley

[lucid iron]

He learned so that he can read books about yoba (probably)

Then again can krobus read?

[turbid oak]

Well, I fixed that but the mod still doesn't work

I have no idea what I did wrong

[oblique meadow]

What does your manifest file look like?

[iron ridge]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[turbid oak]

    "Name": "Pierre REALLY Hates Tortillas",
    "Author": "ChaosApple0731",
    "Version": "1.0.0"
    "Description": "Makes Pierre go on an angry rant when you give him a tortilla.",
    "UniqueID": "ChaosApple0731.PierreREALLYHatesTortillas",
    "UpdateKeys": [], // when you release the mod, see https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Update_checks
    "ContentPackFor": {
        "UniqueID": "Pathoschild.ContentPatcher"
    }
}```

[oblique meadow]

Line 4

"Version": "1.0.0"

you forgot a comma after it

[turbid oak]

ooooohhhh. Thanks!

[oblique meadow]

The Json validator is a big help. There's a dropdown for Manifest:

and this is what the command was linking you to

For future reference

[karmic gust]

I'm working on my mod's nexus page description and can't get the spoiler tag to work correctly. This is what I have written:
[spoiler]Have 2 hearts with Pierre. Enter Pierre's General Store between 3:00 pm and 8:00 pm.[/spoiler]

and the screenshot is how it's showing up. am I formatting the spoiler tags incorrectly?

[turbid oak]

Now it says I have bad JSON escape sequence at line 5, position 23 of this:

    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
    {"Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Character\Dialogue\Pierre",
    "Entries": {
            "AcceptGift_(O)229": "{{i18n:"Pierre.Tortilla.Reaction"}}$5"
    }
    }
    ]
}```

Should I be using / instead of ?

[brittle pasture]

you don’t need the quotes inside the quotes

[turbid oak]

Which quotes?

[unique tusk]

I am once again attempting a custom NPC... Where did I mess up this time? 😭
https://smapi.io/json/manifest/1149109bd40b49d2979b1958f9d497e6

[brittle pasture]

just "{{i18n:Pierre.Tortilla.Reaction}}$5"

[turbid oak]

Thanks

[brittle pasture]

if you do want nested quotes you need to escape them

\"
this is so it thinks the " is part of the string instead of closing it

[turbid oak]

Yay, no errors this time!

[brittle pasture]

stray closing ] on line 5

you closed your burger too early and the guts are spilling out

[obtuse wigeon]

= 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 confimed

(yes I was summoned by the mention of welsh, I was also a bit late, these roads are full of pot holes, didn't want my horse and cart to break a wheel)

[indigo totem]

#mod-showcase message this has given me the idea to turn celebrity tortilla into its own item to make it more compatible with the other tortilla mods when i decide to learn how to make custom cp items, should be a simple project that gives me the opportunity to learn the fundementals

i also love that theres "tortilla with sunglasses" and "tortilla with sunglasses but sparkly" as two separate portraits

[turbid oak]

My new mod still doesn't work. Should the rant be a string in the default.json?

"Pierre.Tortilla.Reaction": "(the rant)"
}```

(The actual rant is in the actual file, just don't want to spoil it)

[unique tusk]

TY SM but also this is the funniest way somebody has explained coding to me

[brittle pasture]

that’s what your i18n file should look like. is it like that

[turbid oak]

It looks like what I just showed you but with the actual rant

[brittle pasture]

found the issue
the target should be Characters/Dialogue/Pierre

oh wait wrong person to ping

[turbid oak]

Ohhh, thank you so much!

[ornate locust]

Sneaky S

[turbid oak]

Well, the rant's finally showing up but now his portrait is blank

I think I know what I did wrong

may have fixed it

[brittle pasture]

the $5 probably, I don’t think Pierre has more than 4 portraits

[ornate locust]

Remember those start at 0 too

[uncut viper]

he has 5 but yeah, start at 0

[turbid oak]

I switched it to $a

[ornate locust]

That also works

[turbid oak]

to see if that changes it

[ornate locust]

but yeah if you want his fifth portrait, it's $4

[turbid oak]

Thanks. Just saw this. Is it angry?

[ornate locust]

I don't know Pierre's portrait sheet actually. I just know they all start at 0

[turbid oak]

I found the sheet. Looks like I actually want $3

[zenith sapphire]

Guys someone made a simple mod with Unlockable Bundles without buildings or anything just items rewards? cause i'm struggling to make a mod with that

I'm trying to look into other mods that use that but still cant figure correctly, time ago i used to understand the process using lumisteria missing hat bundles mod

But now that mod seems discountinued and dont work anymore in 1.6

If someone made one for exercise, if possible i wish to get a copy to study how he did

[turbid oak]

Portrait still not showing up

    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
    {"Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Characters/Dialogue/Pierre",
    "Entries": {
            "AcceptGift_(O)229": "{{i18n:Pierre.Tortilla.Reaction}}$3"
    }
    }
    ]
}```

There's no portrait

[urban patrol]

what happens if you try putting the portrait command inside the i18n entry

[latent mauve]

mind sharing what your i18n entry parses to?

[turbid oak]

Trying that now

[turbid oak]

It contains a funny rant I don't want to spoil. It works, It's just the portrait part that hasn't been.

[latent mauve]

Fair enough, was mainly wondering if the syntax was causing an issue with how it parsed.

[gentle rose]

the thing is that it can be hard to help without seeing the full picture. most mod users aren’t in this chat anyway so usually it’s better to just show us once so we can help (as soon as you publish it, it will be out there for people to read the files anyway)

[latent mauve]

If you don't want the rant seen, you can just change it to dummy text for the example.

And if it is a rant, then it's probably multiple lines, so a stray # might be causing the last portrait marker to not be recognized.

[turbid oak]

"Pierre.Tortilla.Reaction": "(the rant)$3"
}```

I just added the $3 to this

waiting to see if it works

IT WORKS!

Thank you all

[indigo totem]

congrats!!!!!

im also new to this so i cant give advice but ive been watching the progress the whole time :D !!

[turbid oak]

Thanks. Hope it's been exciting.

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/37299

I did it!

Now, I need help with the mod I made last night. Could someone with no Joja saves please download the following mod and tell me if it makes Pierre vanish from your social tab?

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/37286

[urban patrol]

(genuine question) why not create a new save yourself? it doesn't take long

[lucid iron]

New save highly recommended I create and destroy a dozen timelines every week

[ornate trellis]

chu thanos confirmed? /j

[lucid iron]

Groundhog day

Reverse time until mod works

[turbid oak]

I created a new save and Pierre is still missing from the social tab. This means either it takes effect regardless of if you are a Joja member, or it takes effect regardless. I really don't want to delete my Joja save to find out if the latter is the case. That's why I need someone with no Joja saves to tell me if it takes effect.

[urban patrol]

save data is partitioned off per each save, so you don't need to delete other saves or anything

[gentle rose]

other saves don't impact your current save

[urban patrol]

if it doesn't work in a new save, then something is wrong

(this sounds like such an obvious statement but ykwim)

[turbid oak]

Thanks. That means something is wrong because it makes Pierre antisocial even if you're not a Joja member, which is not what I want.

[gentle rose]

are you sure the flag you're using is correct? I can't remember the syntax tbh

[turbid oak]

    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
    {"Action": "EditData",
        "Target": "Data/Characters",
        "Fields": {
            "Pierre": {
                "CanSocialize": "false"
            },
        "When": {
            "HasFlag": "jojaMember"
        }
        }
     }
    ]
}```

[urban patrol]

is it required to use contains when you want true?

[uncut viper]

no

[lucid iron]

This is ok I think, need to check the flag tho

[gentle rose]

can you check what happens when you go talk to him?

[turbid oak]

sure, hold on

[zenith sapphire]

anyone tried out to make some new bundles with the the unlockable bundles mod ?

[turbid oak]

He talks (the mod doesn't affect that), but his intro dialogue is skipped. You can't give him a gift and he still doesn't appear on the social tab. This is what the mod is supposed to do, but only if you're a Joja member.

[latent mauve]

is this your only patch to his Data/Characters entry?

[gentle rose]

can you do a patch summary on Data/Characters please?

[turbid oak]

Yup. I'm brand new to modding and this is all I did so far. Or do you mean could I have another mod I installed meddling with this?

[turbid oak]

How do I do that?

[latent mauve]

Type patch summary "Data/Characters" into the SMAPI console window

actually, lemme doublecheck that that you don't need asset in there before Data/Characters

[turbid oak]

should it be "Data/Characters/Pierre"? Otherwise it will bring up patches on everyone.

[latent mauve]

Data/Characters/Pierre is not a file that exists

[turbid oak]

thanks

[latent mauve]

So you'd need Data/Characters for the json file

Okay, so it does look like you'd want patch summary asset "Data/Characters" to properly filter it

[turbid oak]

There is yellow text about the mod in my console. Maybe that's why it's not working

it says:

[latent mauve]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[latent mauve]

Just upload it to there. 🙂

[turbid oak]

"[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Antisocial Pierre > EditData/Characters" to Data/Characters: there's no record matching key 'When' under Fields."

I cannot copypaste from the console

[urban patrol]

your when is inside your fields brackets

move it to be on the same level as action

(this is why formatting is super important, because we all miss things like that without consistent indentation!)

[latent mauve]

it's also why putting it in the validator helps so much because the shared link would have made that way easier to see.

[turbid oak]

https://smapi.io/json/none/eba1b526cfd34ab48a432396ffb9c736

[craggy goblet]

Hate it when I check mod files (when the mod itself is super nice an stuff) and THEN I see the formatting- 😭😭

[latent mauve]

Now move your comma to the } before When

[urban patrol]

trailing commas are allowed by CP, so i always end up putting a comma after every closing bracket and after every line (well, 95% of the time i do that) even when it's not needed

[turbid oak]

https://smapi.io/json/none/0a74291e3f334156b22c5b4b7afa1b43

I saved that version and it still doesn't do what it's supposed to

[urban patrol]

did you test on a new save

[turbid oak]

Yes. He still doesn't exist on the social tab.

[urban patrol]

and did you patch reload/restart the game after saving that latest version of the mod

[latent mauve]

If you didn't patch reload, then you will need to completely close out the game and reopen it, just going to title isn't enough

[turbid oak]

I had the game closed and reopened it. What is patch reload?

[urban patrol]

!reload

[ocean sail]

How do I reload my changes while I'm still in game?

• Content Patcher pack: enter patch reload <your_mod_id> in the SMAPI console window. This will reload and reapply all your patches (but won't recalculate the ConfigSchema or DynamicToken sections if you use them).
• Translation files: enter reload_i18n in the SMAPI console window. If it's for a Content Patcher pack, also run patch reload afterwards.
• C#: see the Visual Studio hot reload or Rider hot reload feature.

To use this command, type !reload.

[urban patrol]

it's quicker than booting up the game each time

[latent mauve]

Are there any errors in your console now?

[turbid oak]

I still get that same yellow one

[gentle rose]

did you do that patch summary in the end?

[turbid oak]

What's that?

[latent mauve]

if it's the exact same error after saving your changes and reopening the game, then you'll want to be sure that you have updated the version in your Mods folder.

[gentle rose]

the thing I asked you to do earlier, that Lily explained how to do?

[latent mauve]

patch summary asset "Data/Characters"

it'll spit out some stuff in the console, and you can upload your log if we need to look at it

[turbid oak]

Oh yeah, sorry I didn't think I had to

[urban patrol]

and be sure to upload your log file to the log site, using the instructions on the site. copy/paste won't work

[gentle rose]

please do what nic just said

[turbid oak]

I will

[zenith sapphire]

https://smapi.io/log/49e7af9660344605a9ea01c9dc43ce22?Levels=warn~error~alert~critical What could be this error? I'm trying to learn from another mod but i dont get why the code i have pasted for debug (it's the same from the mod page) doesnt work

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 65 C# mods and 166 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[turbid oak]

What am I looking for in the log? Do I paste the whole thing there?

[latent mauve]

follow the instructions on the page at smapi.io/log to upload the file, do not copy/paste

just upload the entire log from the path it tells you

Don't worry about it having extra stuff, we know how to read what matters from it

[turbid oak]

https://smapi.io/log/b668efd9ccb747ea9afecd706375c7ba

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 16 C# mods and 16 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[gentle rose]

you didn't put the updated version of your mod in. The version it's using still has the "when" field in the wrong place.

[turbid oak]

I saved it again. It's still showing the same yellow message

[urban patrol]

make sure you're saving it in the correct folder, not in any other location

[latent mauve]

make absolutely sure you are saving to your mods folder insideC:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Mods

[turbid oak]

Oh I see what's wrong

I temporarily moved the folder to documents so I could test the other one, moved it back but it was only a copy so it's still saving in documents

[indigo totem]

I went to go work on more pixel art and got flavorblasted by “some of these things are not like the others”

[turbid oak]

It works how it's supposed to now!

[indigo totem]

yay!

[turbid oak]

Now to figure out how to update the mod I uploaded.

I can't figure out how to update it

never mind

[obtuse wigeon]

Beat me to it, I was just about to write how

[dusky sail]

No theyre all the same because theyre all beautiful

[turbid oak]

It's updated!

[dusky sail]

finally got it to work thank god. hey did you know when you accidentally type {BC} instead of (BC) in your machinerules it makes the machine not work

[hard fern]

Wow i never knew

[obtuse wigeon]

-# (Icon should be blueberry's profile pic)

[vital lotus]

The whole tortilla frenzy is still going strong I see

[dusky sail]

its not a frenzy its a lifestyle </3

[hard fern]

I contributed with tortillanimos

[dusky sail]

oh i should cheeto myself before i get scared again

[true coyote]

Has a tortilla fish been made

Next logical step

[ornate trellis]

not yet

[dusky sail]

youve found a gap in the market

[true coyote]

I just had surgery so someone else will have to fill that gap

[dusky sigil]

has anyone made tortilla chips

[lucid mulch]

don't forget to have the tortilla be able to be combined with every butter mod

[true coyote]

Exotic butters

[brave fable]

i don't know how to make mods. can some1 pls make a tortilla rug. thank

[ornate locust]

mod that requires ALL the butter variants for a recipe to make the Ultimate Butter

[drowsy pewter]

!modideas

[ocean sail]

If you have a mod idea that you aren't planning to make yourself, you can put it in the mod ideas github: https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas

However, this does not mean anyone is guaranteed to work on your idea—modders who are looking for ideas sometimes go through and work on what they find interesting off this list. If you want to pay someone to make your mod idea, there are a few people who do commissions (mostly art, sometimes code); you can ask around, search usernames for the word comms, or see !commissions.

To use this command, type !modideas.

[drowsy pewter]

I actually did want to make a tortilla rug but I think I need to stop

hm.. cornucopia does need more furniture..

[brave fable]

i wasn't aware cornucopia even had furniture

i thought it was just crops

[ornate locust]

Does Cornucopia have a decorative cornucopia?

[drowsy pewter]

yup

[ornate locust]

pleasing

[brave fable]

when you think about it, a cornucopia is really just a burrito

[drowsy pewter]

True...

[hard fern]

Burritocopia

[dusky sail]

if not related to tortillas (made of corn) then why is it called corn ucopia

[unique tusk]

Could someone explain to me where I fucked up please? ;v;
https://smapi.io/json/manifest/355f487aaeb24310b27f7195c78c8042

[hard fern]

Have i ever seen a corn tortilla burrito...

It's always been flour tortilla

[urban patrol]

all of your patches need to be within the changes list [ ]

[ornate locust]

Probably a missing { or }

[urban patrol]

you've closed it out too early

[dusky sail]

yeah get rid of the ] on line 5 then try it again

it seems like you have the proper one at the end you just have an extra one

[ornate locust]

Ooh yeah

totally missed that

[unique tusk]

Erm,,,
https://smapi.io/json/manifest/62a70fd03da54de19968650aa198c159

[lucid iron]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[ornate locust]

Missing colon

"Home":

[hard fern]

:o that's an important part of your gastrointestinal system

It's bad if it's missing

[uncut viper]

thats also just not inside of any patch

[brave fable]

(when you add the colon, what do you expect that to do?)

i'm assuming that's part of whatever code is in your dispos.json? you'd best remove it from this file

[ornate locust]

you are correct of course, it's not inside the patch

[brave fable]

it's hard to understand where it should be used with various included content files

which of your files has a Changes entry targeting Data/Characters?

[unique tusk]

Uhhhhhhh

Imma be honest I just followed a tutorial n copied & pasted a lotta it

[ornate locust]

I think you missed some bits? Or mispasted some bits

What tutorial?

[hard fern]

You shouldn't just copy paste it without knowing where it goes 🤔

[unique tusk]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC

[ornate locust]

That has the Home bit under data/Characters, yeah

[indigo totem]

Maybe we could add compatibility with butterfish from sve and combine it with sugar to make those sugar tortilla snacks

[drowsy pewter]

Yeah thats hilarious

[indigo totem]

mmmmm do i work on outfits, start to draw sea slug sprites, or actually play the damn game decisions

[ornate locust]

Can I vote sea slugs

I like sea slugs

[obtuse wigeon]

Second vote for sea slugs, they're cool

[autumn tide]

uhhh hey! I'm tryna make an event rn, but I'm super new to all of this and I'd really appreciate some help with turning my narrative thing into code. I've got the very start done buttt I'm kinda lost cause it seems so complex

[inland rain]

is Helper.Events.GameLoop.TimeChanged triggered when you wake up?

[autumn tide]

one sec i got a document with my stuff

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Df7dLcRQ6ziNZKyf-1zmN1GsfwD6csxZPvJk5TTUVE/edit?usp=sharing

[versed wyvern]

Huh. Was it ever known before that annihilating the casino boncher apparently makes it so he can't be used for anything else in that save ever again?
Turns out that my coffee machine mod which I set to use the Bouncer to deliver the dialogue stops working after blowing him up

[lucid iron]

what a terrifying thing youve done

[autumn tide]

oh crap that's permanent-

[lucid iron]

i believe it's cus Game1.getCharacterByName helper looks for the character in the world

and thats what BETAS uses

[urban patrol]

it's easy to feel discouraged when doing events, but keep at it! i highly recommend having the list of event commands up side by side with your code so you can find exactly what you need to make your vision happen

[uncut viper]

why was the coffee machine named Bouncer,

[urban patrol]

also for a sense of scale, i usually have to test my events 20-30 times to get every single thing correct, adjusting dialogue, timing, etc. so don't feel bad if it's not perfect the first several times you run it

[brave fable]

the good thing about events is they're exactly as simple or as complicated as you make them. start with nothing, add a dialogue, move a character, and keep on expanding it until it's how you like

[autumn tide]

got it, I actually haven't even implemented any of my stuff yet soooo

[brave fable]

don't write the whole thing out all at once, since you'll have to debug the entire thing at once, rather than piece by piece.

make good use of patch reload mymodidgoesherekebabemoji and debug ebi myeventidgoesherepitabreademoji to quickly test and iterate on your script

[urban patrol]

oh see i embrace the chaos but that's definitely smarter

[autumn tide]

literally my life motto-

[tender agate]

what's the trigger for when a map changed?

also is there a way to check if a map is considered a 'farm' map?

[lucid iron]

you mean when player change location?

[tender agate]

yeah

[lucid mulch]

detecting a map being farm map isn't trivial, checking if its the farm location is easy

[lucid iron]

LocationChanged

u can just use LOCATION_NAME Here Farm yea

good enough in most cases

[versed wyvern]

I just chose him on a whim since it seemed like very few other things would ever touch him

[uncut viper]

is your coffee maker not furniture?

[versed wyvern]

No, it's an interactable tile in the Clinic

[uncut viper]

I'm confused where Bouncer comes into play then

[lucid iron]

mud do u want to use the mmap question dialogue thing lol

it's made for this kinda stuff

instead of betas DialogueBox shenanigans

[versed wyvern]

The tile uses DialogueBox to ask if you want to drink coffee and if you say yes it uses EatObject to eat coffee without giving you the item

[uncut viper]

Wait, Mud are you aware that you don't need to provide the name of a real NPC in the action

[brave fable]

bouncer feeds you a coffee asmr

[tender agate]

does c# have the equivalent of 'break'?

[inner harbor]

Haha, I (almost) always write the whole thing first! In my early days this led to massive debugging processes. Now I can sometimes get it to play from beginning to end without crashing once. (Although they do sometimes walk in the wrong direction or face the incorrect way)

[brave fable]

C# has break if that's what you want

[versed wyvern]

When I was setting it up months ago I didn't want to depart from the syntax in any way since I had no idea what I was doing

[tender agate]

oh it does cool

[lucid mulch]

it doesn't have the fun PHP feature of accepting a number of layers to break out of, but most languages dont have that cool feature

[uncut viper]

you can just do Spiderbuttons.BETAS_DialogueBox "Coffee Machine" <Translation Key> <Portrait Asset>

(or whatever the syntax is for that traction)

just place goto labels at every nesting and jump to them as needed

[ornate locust]

So I have questions about that machine, because apparently that BETAS dialog box is not supposed to WORK with questions

[versed wyvern]

Yeah thank you, it seems simple enough to fix, I just didn't expect Thanosing Bouncer to cause this

[ornate locust]

and I tried to do the same thing and it didn't work at all and I have no idea why yours does and mine does not

[lucid mulch]

which is unironically the correct solution but people look at you funny if you use them

[ornate locust]

what dark coding god did you sacrifice to

[uncut viper]

i think ive used goto in two of my mods so far

[lucid iron]

i mean a goto is just a return but closer

i see no issue with it

[versed wyvern]

Uhhh my memory is hazy but I think Button fixed the question thing long ago when I first brought it up?

[uncut viper]

a goto can take u forward or backward though unlike a return

oh i definitely didnt do anything to fix questions

granted i was tired at the time when looking at Midnight's json but i wasnt immediately aware of why theirs wasnt working when yours was

ive been under the assumptions that questions didnt work

[versed wyvern]

[lucid mulch]

tbh continue can also take you forward or backward depending on what its inside (while/foreach/for etc would go backwards, dowhile would go forward)

[ornate locust]

I even tried to make it the Bouncer to see if that would work

[indigo totem]

do you have a favorite? id love to learn about a species i dont know about :D

[indigo totem]

same to you :D

[peak girder]

sigma

[ornate locust]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chelidonura_varians.jpg I love these guys

[versed wyvern]

Hmm, could swear I remember a conversation from back then where I was trying to get it to work, which included trying quickquestion which doesn't work to this day

[versed wyvern]

Could you show me what you tried?

[ornate locust]

I can see if I can find it in a search or something, I ended up changing it so the machine I made just jams coffee in your face. But I basically ended up making it more and more identical to your mod until it was basically Just That and it refused to work

just like... out of desperation LOL

here's where I originally posted about it

[versed wyvern]

Well that sure is bizarre

[ornate locust]

you understand my confusion

You have done Magic

[versed wyvern]

Because it seems to break if I change it off Bouncer

But you said it didn't work when you changed it to Bouncer

[ornate locust]

load-bearing bouncer. To be fair, I didn't expect the bouncer vanishing would affect anything, he might have been gone in that test save

I was testing some later game-ish things at the time

[dusky sail]

Obviously the solution is to change the casino unlock event so the bouncer just moves to the side instead of exploding (not a genuine suggestion)

[versed wyvern]

Oh, wait a second

Hmm. The oddities continue. I set both the machine and the dialogue source to Pierre and it works, but I see your example had them matching and it didn't work

[ornate locust]

Maybe it has to be an existing NPC?

[versed wyvern]

I think I remember that I used Bouncer because I planned to alter the dialogue box size for every actual resident and I wanted to avoid that happening to the coffee machine dialogue

[ornate locust]

maybe it's not working right with new NPCs or something

[uncut viper]

the game cannot tell the difference between a vanilla and modded npc

[ornate locust]

I wouldn't think, but I am otherwise out of ideas

[versed wyvern]

Well it doesn't work if I change all instances of Pierre to someone who doesn't exist

[ornate locust]

Hm

[uncut viper]

(that part is expected and why i assumed questions didnt work at all)

[valid folio]

Hi, do you think it’s possible to create a fertilizer for fruit trees to make them grow faster? I haven’t seen any mod that adds something like this, and I wanted to use some items from my mods to make it, but I don’t even know if it’s possible. I looked at the object data for the tree fertilizer, but as I expected, it didn’t give me any clues about how the item works so I could adapt it. I’m trying to create things I haven’t seen in other mods to avoid being repetitive.

[uncut viper]

(it looks for responses in the npc's dialogue. cant do it if the npc isnt real. but midnights was real, i assumed)

[lucid iron]

C#

[ornate locust]

At the very least, the Characters/Dialog/Target was the same for both. Looking back, I think I typed her name wrong... but it was wrong in both spaces. So the NPC didn't exist, but the dialog load did

[versed wyvern]

It works with Henchman, which I suspect will also break when you give him void mayonnaise and he disappears

[ornate locust]

Maybe that was throwing me. And then I just happened to use the Bouncer to test with NPCs which also broke

[lucid iron]

@ivory plume hi i am addressing comment on https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/pull/1151
did we want to let content packs edit the lookup anything theme?

[ornate locust]

She's just a temporary NPC too. Maybe I'll staple this onto Lewis or something

[valid folio]

I feared as much; I don’t know how to program in C#, it’s going to be more complicated than I thought.

[lucid iron]

-# petitioning harder for button to just do the dialogue dict replace

[versed wyvern]

Okay yeah it breaks when Henchman ceases to exist too so I think it must be someone who exists

[dusky sail]

Maybe you have to make a coffee pot antisocial npc who "exists" so the game has someone to refer to but the npc wont be affected by any vanilla events. Just spitballin here

[ornate locust]

so questions work if it's an existing NPC, mystery probably solved

[ivory plume]

Eventually yes, I think ideally other content packs could register their own theme. It probably wouldn't be in this PR though, we just need to set it up in a way where we can do that in the future.

[lucid iron]

well i might as well do it in this PR and then move all the default logic to a json

originally, i actually thought it'd be a C# mod registering the background (and doing their own draws)

that was why there's 3 classes

[valid folio]

Any hints on where I should start looking?

[ivory plume]

If you want to do it, I suggest looking at how Central Station sets up its assets with the initial data; I'd probably do something similar here.

[lucid iron]

FruitTree.cs i guess, see how you can progress the stages

ah hm does that make LA dependent on content patcher

[valid folio]

Ok, any idea where that file is? I don’t want to give up without trying haha.

[lucid iron]

!decompile

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[lucid iron]

i was gonna do this just directly in LA
e.LoadFromModFile<Dictionary<string, ThemeData>>("assets/themes.json", AssetLoadPriority.Exclusive);

[valid folio]

I see, ty

[ivory plume]

Oh yeah, I did rewrite Central Station later to do it through Content Patcher. But basically yeah, that's what I had in mind; Lookup Anything would register a Load to provide the initial data (whether directly or by reading it from a JSON file), which content packs could then edit.

[valid folio]

Tomorrow I’ll ask a friend who’s a programmer along with her husband, to see if they can guide me. I understand how to decompile the game files, but I guess I still need to know how to read the code. Anyway, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

[versed wyvern]

And I tried it with SVE'S Sophia just now and it also works so it should work the same with modded characters

[lucid iron]

u can do the ol invisible antisocial npc if u want

might not even need betas in that case, you just put em close enough to Action NPCMessage

[versed wyvern]

Well I need BETAS to make the player inhale coffee either way

[lucid iron]

thats true, tho u can just give the buff right

[versed wyvern]

but muh immersions

[lucid iron]

but either way i believe you should make your own invisible npc just for this

[valid folio]

Hi, Pathoschild! How are you? I have a few questions and you can answer whenever you can, no rush. I have two mods that change the names of two fruits, but SMAPI says they aren’t updated to the correct CP version. They work fine, but I wanted to update them so that message doesn’t appear. For example, if I simply change "Format": "1.26.0" to "Format": "2.7.0", the mods stop working, so I guess there’s another way I should do it.

Link to the code:
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/514adb93f4ce40a2b134915e1d40d0e8

[lucid mulch]

That mod is written with 1.5 or older in mind and isn't directly compatible with 1.6
When CP sees its a version < 2.0 it is automatically migrating it for you, but once you declare its for 2.7, those migrations turn off as it assumes you are writing the mod for the current version in mind

[ivory plume]

Hi! You'll need to apply the migration guide to update the content pack for newer changes. If the content pack was created before Stardew Valley 1.6, you may need to apply the Stardew Valley 1.6 migration guide too (e.g. that JSON will need to use the new object format).

[valid folio]

A few days ago I took a look at it, but I didn’t understand much. I understood that CP will try to migrate automatically, and apparently it does because the mods work. I didn’t write the code myself, but it seems to me that it’s from before 1.6. I just looked at it, copied it, and that was enough for what I wanted to do. But I’ll check the second link you left because I don’t think I saw that one.

[latent mauve]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6#Custom_objects

[ivory plume]

(We should probably add some examples to Modding:Objects.)

[latent mauve]

(probably)

[valid folio]

I’ve saved all the links you gave me; I’ll take a look at them tomorrow when I’m fresher haha.

[valid folio]

Please haha

[valid folio]

Please haha

Ty guys = )

[latent mauve]

Here's my Lon Lon Milk object code if anyone wants that for an example: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/07b03c8e63fe41149f1343d6b72fe4d1

Can probably pull together a quick non-food example tomorrow.

[valid folio]

But that’s for adding a new item as far as I can see; I know how to do that. My idea is just to rename some fruits for localization purposes.

[valid folio]

(Anyway, I'm going to copy that code, you can never have too much, they say haha)

[latent mauve]

So just the display names and descriptions for your fruits, Hayato?

[ivory plume]

Renaming items is even easier in 1.6 now; you don't need to edit the object data anymore, you just set the translation.

For example, here's the entry in Data/Objects for peach:

  "636": {
    "Name": "Peach",
    "DisplayName": "[LocalizedText Strings\\Objects:Peach_Name]",
    "Description": "[LocalizedText Strings\\Objects:Peach_Description]",
    "Type": "Basic",
    "Category": -79,
    "Price": 140,
    "SpriteIndex": 636,
    "Edibility": 15,
    "ContextTags": [
      "color_pink",
      "fruit_item",
      "fruit_tree_item",
      "season_summer"
    ]
  }

Note the translation key for the display name. You can just edit that key:

{
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Strings/Objects",
    "Entries": {
        "Peach_Name": "Durazno"
    }
}

[valid folio]

I just want to change the name of Fresa (Strawvbeey) to Frutilla, and Melocotón (Peach) to Durazno, nothing else haha. I can do it currently, but I want to update the code. One question: is that milk from one of your mods? Is it published? Can I see it?

[valid folio]

Ooooh I see

[valid folio]

Now I understand why simply changing the version didn’t work.

[latent mauve]

it's part of my in-progress Legend of Zelda NPC Overhaul mod, it is not yet released.

[valid folio]

Oh, have you already started working on the default.json?

[valid folio]

Thanks, Pathoschild = ) you saved my life again haha

[latent mauve]

I'll be moving everything text-wise to i18n tokens later, but for now I'm getting the last bits of the NPCs and maps taken care of. 🙂

[valid folio]

Ok, it’s just that if you want, I could start translating it into Spanish for you. It’s better to start little by little than to begin translating once the mod is already released. That’s how I did with WAG, and even so it took me almost two months haha. It all depends on how many lines there are to translate; RPB and WAG each took me that long because they had over 3,000 lines to translate.

[valid folio]

Thaaank youuu, it worked perfectly!

[old quartz]

is there a way to get what instance called the current method? i figured out how to postfix the marriagedialoguereference .ctor but it doesnt define the npc name.. i was thinking i could get that from getting the npc instance that called the .ctor but afaik there isnt really a way to do it :/

[lucid mulch]

Assuming you are in a harmony patch for a regular method you can use __instance as a parameter, but doing that in a constructor patch would likely do weird things

but you don't ever know the caller instance, only the class instance of what you patched

[old quartz]

yeah since i postfixed the .ctor it seems to return the .ctor instance, but beyond that im kind of lost lol

[unique tusk]

I've almost got my custom NPC correctly loading into the game but I keep getting this yellow text and I'm not sure what it means? 🤔

[drowsy pewter]

i think that it means your file isnt formatted correctly

which means we need to see it

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[unique tusk]

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/6c6eccaab95f4ab898c0de0058ab5ddb

[gentle rose]

would it? this seems to imply it should work relatively fine

[lucid iron]

u can do it in the postfix just fine (see p4a) but doing it in prefix is illegal

[gentle rose]

makes sense

[unique tusk]

It's been nearly an hour and I'M STILL STUCK ON WHAT CHANGES IT WANTS FROM ME

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/3ca42d7a7c7041a597e2dc81f8f43e4a

[brave fable]

you have the schema set to read the file as if it's your manifest.json

you can change the schema above your actual json content:
https://smapi.io/json/none/3ca42d7a7c7041a597e2dc81f8f43e4a

[unique tusk]

What's a schema???

[latent mauve]

How are you pulling this file into your content.json?

As a load? An include?

[brave fable]

schema, as in scheme, as in a plan - like blueprints

[unique tusk]

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/f70086f582a4402e9dc084291604c428

[unique tusk]

This is my content json ksdhjksadg

[brave fable]

the json parser uses a schema as a template for the expected layout and contents of your json file, so for example with a manifest schema it's going to check and make sure you have the usual manifest fields, such as UniqueID, Dependencies, Version, and ensure that they're all of the expected values, like "" strings, [] lists, or {} dictionaries

since your json file has none of those, being a dialogue file (or a content file above), it's throwing a fit because your file isn't a manifest file like you said it was

[unique tusk]

OOOOHHHH

Wait now it says no errors found

[latent mauve]

Well, your Include files probably need to have action blocks and start with { "Changes": [ and end with a closing ] }?

[brave fable]

yep! because even though your file is a really godawful manifest file, it's a perfectly good dialogue json

[latent mauve]

But as a load it shouldn't be an issue I think?

I always get confused with files that only look like entries blocks, LOL

[gentle rose]

you’re Including your i18n

I think

[gentle rose]

you’re both including and loading the same file, which should never be a thing

[indigo totem]

hi! are there any resources on adding fish using content patcher?

im starting to put together info for working on my sea slug selebration

[drowsy pewter]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Fish_data

you also need to add them as an Object

[urban patrol]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_a_New_Fish

[indigo totem]

nod nod, thank you for pointing that out

[drowsy pewter]

that looks better

[indigo totem]

thank you both!! i appreciate it :D

[turbid oak]

I wonder if I'm ready to take on the challenge of beginning work on Pierre Hates You or if I should get more practice from micro mods.

[dusky sail]

Youll be learning along the way with either choice, so go with the one you feel more inspired by!

[oblique meadow]

Huh… so c# is just an object oriented language. Looks like there’s a lot of similarities with Java….

[brave fable]

popular consensus since C# was created is that it's legally-distinct microsoft-flavoured java

obviously it's developed a lot since then into its own beast, though

[oblique meadow]

Ok. Good to know. I can do Java. Always got nervous to dip my toes in c# for some reason. But… it’s not all that bad.

[brave fable]

it's a very relaxed language, a lot of conveniences and sugar, a lot of helpful libraries, easy project scaling, not much worry about memory management

[oblique meadow]

Ok. I’m going to decompile the game code and understand that. Any majorly weird nuances I should make sure I avoid otherwise I risk blowing stuff up?

[indigo totem]

I was taught c++ and c# in my middle school advanced math class, but i couldn’t really grasp it so I’ve forgotten most of it

[brave fable]

not really, go blow stuff up

[indigo totem]

Hell yeah explosions

[lucid mulch]

For added context, Microsoft did have a JVM implementation, along with J++ but got sued by then Sun microsystems and settled, and around that time was when .NET sprung up

[brave fable]

obviously get started with the wiki's intro to C# with the basic template mod to get the boilerplate done

it'll also run you through the VS2022 setup and frameworks to install

[oblique meadow]

Oh for sure. I have a pretty easy first project in mind. So I should be ok

[lucid mulch]

For added fuel to that linkage, Anders Hejlsberg worked on J++ prior to being lead architect on C# and then jumping over to Typescript

[indigo totem]

sorry for the jump in topics, but can yall pick a favorite between these two? i love them both but the fun fact for them is the same so it feels redundant and bloated to include them both: candidate one is the much beloved "leaf sheep" (Costasiella kuroshimae)! Candidate number 2 is the lovely leaf shaped "eastern emerald elysia" (elysia chlorotica)! they both absorb the chloroplasts from their algae diet into their body, giving them their green color, to perform indirect photosynthesis!

[brave fable]

ah, pants.png. my old friend

[gray bear]

not the pants

[brave fable]

is there really such a thing as never again

[gray bear]

there should be

[urban patrol]

is anyone a world map whisperer? i'm getting a bug where i presumably go "out of bounds" and the world map spits out that i'm on the farm instead of the docks. here are two different tile positions i stand in and the corresponding map display

(good, desired)

(bad, undesired)

here's my world map json and my world map png https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/33c49ec2fcce411d8054667ff2394b88

[uncut viper]

is your TileArea big enough

[urban patrol]

the tile area i defined was the width of the dock itself; should it be the width of the whole map?

[uncut viper]

does the map start at the very left edge of the dock?

[urban patrol]

yep

[uncut viper]

a quick count seems like the dock is 45 tiles wide

but your TileArea lists 44

[urban patrol]

did i do bad math 🤦

[uncut viper]

it may be x44, but thats the 45th tile

bc the first tile is 0

[urban patrol]

damn 0 index

ok let me try it with 45

[uncut viper]

that said you could also just remove TileArea completely and it defaults to the whole map if you wanted

if the map is just the dock im not sure there's good reason to not do that but idk map intricacies

[urban patrol]

what about the ~ 6 ocean tiles? do i need to worry about including/not including them

[uncut viper]

the TileArea just means "if the player is in this rectangle, they are considered in this zone on the worldmap"

so if the player somehow walks on the water i would think they should still show in that zone

[urban patrol]

zone being the pixelarea?

[uncut viper]

probably maybe

[urban patrol]

okay removing the tile area entirely worked and is close enough

idrc about a few pixels

thanks!

lmao i still got things to fix, going inside the cannery shows me as being in the blue boat

probably because the exterior is short and fat, but the interior is long and skinny, i'm guessing

[uncut viper]

your guess is as good as mine. i didnt know what i just told you about TileArea until 5 minutes ago

[urban patrol]

and yet it worked!

i'll play around with it

[uncut viper]

being a C#er is an inherent buff to being able to quickly learn your modding blind spots by looking at the decompile 😌

[urban patrol]

i wish i could read (this is kind of a joke but also not, trying to read C# is like reading hungarian to me)

[indigo totem]

i have heard the people's opinions, and we have gotten our winner. leaf sheep will be the photosynthesizing slug in the sea slug shindig

[brave fable]

you mention a shindig. perchance a rodeo

[urban patrol]

"TargetField": [ "Valley", "MapAreas", "Mountain", "Tooltips" ],
is this the correct way to target field or can i not do this? i want to add information about one new house in the mountain area

picture is unpacked data

[uncut viper]

looks correct to me

[urban patrol]

woohoo!

thanks

[gray bear]

so im like, staring at dialogue again, is there a way to make an npc say something different depending on the season? i know there's $d but it doesn't seem to account for season? maybe i can use a query

the gist is i want my child to mention which fish they wanna see at the beach depending on what season is it

oh wait query only checks between 2 condition maybe i should just set dialouge keys for the seasons

ok, new question. do dialogue cmds have a random item from a list (i know there's [<id>+] but that gives a player an item, i want the npc to just mention it)

[indigo totem]

this might be a terrible idea but heres where my brain went:
make a dynamictoken for fish, have it pick a random fish based on season with each season having a list to pick from, and then put the token in the phrase you want it (i dont know if you can put tokens in dialogue which is why i say it might be a bad idea)

[gray bear]

dialouge accepts token

my idea was just using a random token, since i already split them off to different seasons

now to figure out seasonal fishes lmao

how to refrence a display name without typing it out

[uncut viper]

[ItemName] tokenizable string

[gray bear]

do i need all this or just the objects:+ part?

or is this not the right string??

oh ok found the wiki page.

random token go brr

[uncut viper]

[ItemName {{Random: ...}}] I suggest this

[gray bear]

[ItemName {{Random:(O)128,(O)138}}]
like this you mean?

oh i don't need that extra square bracket

[brave fable]

i knew pants was cursed but i didn't think it was contagious. my border ruler.... is pants..

[gray bear]

what is this 👀

[brave fable]

Pants (pants)

[gray bear]

pant

[hard fern]

Mmm pants

[brave fable]

and at this single critical moment i realise i started with the shorter female pants first, because i named it male for some reason

ah yes a.. tll \ sprites are wrong

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[scenic pecan]

Does anybody know

how to look at game events

[brave fable]

you mean read the actual script, or view them ingame?

[scenic pecan]

the scripts

[brave fable]

!unpack the game assets if you haven't done so already:

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[brave fable]

then you can look in Data/Events to find allllllll the different event scripts

[scenic pecan]

thank you

[brave fable]

they're pretty unintelligible if you don't know what all the event commands and preconditions mean, so feel free to ask for more help when you run into them

[scenic pecan]

Does the game say anything when you harvest a crop?

do you know that?

[brave fable]

i'm guessing you want an event to start when you harvest a particular crop?

[scenic pecan]

it depends

is monsters spawning

an event?

if so, yse

[brave fable]

oh no, that wouldn't be an event, events are cutscenes specifically

[scenic pecan]

but i want it to happen to any crop

[drowsy pewter]

Are you making a C# or CP mod

[scenic pecan]

C#

[drowsy pewter]

Ah I cant help

[brave fable]

have you decompiled the game code

[scenic pecan]

No

[brave fable]

do you have any C# experience?

this doesn't look like something possible without some slightly advanced techniques

[scenic pecan]

No

[scenic pecan]

"advanced techniques" are relative

[brave fable]

unless someone knows a Trigger Action for spawning monsters

[drowsy pewter]

I was going to suggest spacecore and betas

[brave fable]

BETAS has a trigger for crops harvested, but i don't know of a trigger action to spawn monsters?

[drowsy pewter]

Let me double check what I was thinking of in spacecore

[gentle rose]

yes, to experience, which is probably why blueberry asked about that

[brave fable]

in practice even the non-trigger-to-trigger-action method is quite simple, but it takes a little understanding before you can make it work

[drowsy pewter]

Okay I was thinking of spacecore setpieces, but they wont spawn until you leave and reenter a location

[brave fable]

ah

C# it is then lol

[drowsy pewter]

But you can put a monster in a setpiece and spawn it with a trigger action other than that

[brave fable]

so your constant codebase companion and almanac of all available options will be the decompiled game code

!decompile @scenic pecan

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[scenic pecan]

okay

[brave fable]

when decompiled, it'll spit out a non-runnable non-debuggable but still readable C# solution with a rough reproduction of the game code

the only way you'll be able to find a way of writing a solution is by working out how the game works, usually by searching relevant keywords and following breadcrumbs to a reasonable entry point

and unfortunately i've already blown my c# onboarding willpower last week so learning the language features is up to you

[scenic pecan]

What does it mean to decompile

[gentle rose]

(I feel like maybe we should add the "non runnable, non debuggable" part to the command, because twice recently I've mentioned that and people weren't aware)

[brave fable]

the game code is kept in a DLL file (dynamically-linked library), which is non-human-readable compiled C# code

[scenic pecan]

IlSpy lets me read it?

[brave fable]

a decompiler is a program that tries to reverse-engineer that into something human-readable and vaguely functional

[scenic pecan]

Okay

[brave fable]

ILSpy is the best one for the job

[scenic pecan]

Do you want me to use the search tool

and type out things that could find me the "crop.harvested."?

[brave fable]

it's best if you save it as a project by following the decompile guide

ilspy is useful, but not very usable

you'll want to look over the code in an actual development environment, like visual studio community 2022

[gentle rose]

(or rider)

[brave fable]

and yep, there's a whole bunch of installing and downloading and setup involved before you can even begin to think about writing a C# mod

again, refer to the guide on the wiki for that

[scenic pecan]

Do you know what "always qualify member references" means?

[gentle rose]

unrelated, but whatcha working on currently with farmer pants, blueberry?

[brave fable]

a qualified reference is one that specifies where it comes from, so the current instance of the containing class would be this.MyVariable, a static reference of a given class would use the name of that class, such as ModEntry.MyStaticVariable, and a local instance can't be qualified since it isn't a member of any instance or type

i'm guessing you've just bumped into this in the ilspy preferences or somesuch, it's not particularly important. you may as well check the box because it's clearer what's being referenced

[brave fable]

wearable tortilla

[gray bear]

oh my god

[drowsy pewter]

Oh

[brave fable]

i mean how else would you describe a yukata

[velvet narwhal]

you're not wrong...... but i'm not gonna say you're right........

[brave fable]

pants once again spreading disease to the ruler

[hard fern]

Im scared

Im so scared of pants

[dusky sail]

👖 BOO

[scenic pecan]

When I try saving, i only get "StardewValley" out, nothing else. is that normal?

[brave fable]

did you open StardewValley.DLL?

if you chose the EXE, you chose wrong, and fell for the oldest trick in the book

[scenic pecan]

Yeah its probably the DLL

[scenic pecan]

I did that

but i think this one is the DLL

[brave fable]

if you chose the DLL, you'd get something like this:

[scenic pecan]

Yeah

Do you want me to save this?

[brave fable]

now with the output set to C# at the top-centre, right-click and use save code to make a C# project

[scenic pecan]

I think I did that

should I go in to "StardewValley.cs"?

[brave fable]

it shouldn't have made a single CS file

[scenic pecan]

it has made a bunch of stuff

[brave fable]

you should be using this value when you save:

[scenic pecan]

i guess im asking what do i do with this