making-mods-general

[violet valley]

yea

[brittle pasture]

should I be scared /j

[gray bear]

well it's forsy's idea... ✨ everything bait ✨

[violet valley]

what would everything bait do

[gray bear]

make pepper bait and shane and maru follow you around

[violet valley]

lol

[hard fern]

*pepper popper

[gray bear]

does maru not like pepper

oh wait that's shane and lewis

pretty sure lewis follows you anyway

[violet valley]

I thought Shane liked pepper poppers?

[hard fern]

shane and maru love pepper poppers

[gray bear]

he loves them, but also pepper

[violet valley]

oh yeah love

[hard fern]

but shane and lewis love regular hot pepper

[gray bear]

id imagine they just munch on it

[hard fern]

theyre crazy

[violet valley]

[nimble marlin]

I think it's much better now, I've added many visual and sound improvements to the cooking minigame. what do you guys think? (addon for The Love of Cooking)

[violet valley]

woahh that looks really good! is that mod released yet?

[nimble marlin]

nope, not yet. I wasnt planning on releasing it but then some friends of mine convinced me otherwise so I started working on actually improving the concept I had ><

[violet valley]

ok. that mod looks really cool, I will download when it is released

also the book/opening animation is rlly cool

[hard fern]

omg i love that cooking minigame

[violet valley]

samee

[hard fern]

is it just going to be for loc?

[nimble marlin]

oh! that isn't my mod, thats Love of Cooking. what I'm working is on an addon for The Love of Cooking

in this case, the minigame

[violet valley]

oh

your minigame is also rlly cool though

[nimble marlin]

I do have plans to make a vanilla version later but that would require rethinking how the minigame works because of how different the cooking menu is

there are less features like selecting to cook more than one dish at once and ofc there isnt a cooking pan tool

[valid nova]

C# is confusing and because I don't understand it I have decided to build my mod from the ground up only using others as references instead of copying them, in the hopes I will learn by doing

[violet valley]

wdym?

[hard fern]

i think there's easy C# courses out there 🤔

[brittle pasture]

It’s definitely going to be a pain in the ass since you would need transpilers, because the game handles getting the recipe, consuming the ingredients, and putting the result into the cursor in one function

[valid nova]

I asked about making a mod like colourful chests but with a hex code picker and was told to clone colourful chests and add a hex thing, but I feel I don't know enough to comprehend how any of it is working or how I would even do it, so I am starting from the beginning

[brittle pasture]

• you also need to add a separate implementation for Better Crafting as well (but I think this is infinitely easier)

[lucid iron]

I think you can maybe not care about the picked recipe so much

[valid nova]

I tried one once but I did not like C# much, ended up doing some javascript, but I think it is time to try again lol

[brittle pasture]

tbh if you just make BC a hard requirement for the non-LOC version I’d be happy

[lucid iron]

Use the result of the minigame as a modifier on the final in cursor item

Did good +1 quality did bad actually it's coal now oops

[brittle pasture]

if you shift click to cook 5 do you need to play the minigame for each

or ctrl shift for 25

[gray bear]

25 minigames

[tiny zealot]

what's the 999 keycombo again

[gray bear]

ctrl shift and a secret third thing

[nimble marlin]

ngl that's a really good idea xD

[brittle pasture]

the best feature of BC is a sane API for hooking into cooking events

[gray bear]

wish i was sane API

[hard fern]

in order to make a config i18n-ed what exactly do i need to do again

[gray bear]

see nimori's i18nifier

https://nom0ri.github.io/sdv-i18nifier-app/

no work hard

[brittle pasture]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/config.md#translations

[hard fern]

i wanted to do it manually :(

o thx selph

[lucid iron]

Ctrl shift 1

For 999

[tropic hare]

Hi, I plan to replace the Gil in the Adventurer's Guild with an interactive chest, while still keeping the function of awarding rewards to the players. When a player approaches the chest, there should be an opening animation like in the Shipping Bin, and clicking on it should allow for interaction.
Apart from modifying the map, I expect to create a fake NPC to achieve this. But it seems that the animation effect cannot be achieved.
Please tell me which framework can help me achieve it, or is it only possible through C#?

[abstract gull]

Pessoal sabem qual Mods posso usar no meu SMAPI e jogo antigo

Qual data e versão coloco la

[round timber]

english only please see the #rules

[lucid iron]

So gil is a set of animated map tiles which don't really have state like "open/close" they just keep animating

[hard fern]

gil is cursed

wasnt there a line of code where it was just is Gil

[lucid iron]

I think the low tech way is to patch away his texture

Swap the dialogue so you are talking to a chest basically

[valid folio]

It didn’t work, but I have to go out now, so I can’t keep trying. Anyway, I think I’m going to have to give up on adding crème anglaise; it’s clearly not possible, or there’s some other hard-to-detect problem. In any case, thanks, and maybe I’ll try a few more attempts later.

[brittle pasture]

post your code again if you want

[valid folio]

https://smapi.io/json/none/17958f3c0559422780a7a7fcaa0120da

[brittle pasture]

did you check your machine with Lookup Anything

[valid folio]

What I was thinking of doing was testing it with just one item, like putting in an egg and getting crème anglaise out. My idea is to use it in another machine to make Italian-style ice cream, which I haven’t seen in any mod.

[valid folio]

No, I don’t even know what that mod does haha.

[tropic hare]

Yes.
I have completed the modification of the dialogue. However, I haven't yet practiced modifying the map textures. Isn't the map animation supposed to be able to play in a loop?
Can using "Tile properties" enable the chest to open when the player approaches?

[brittle pasture]

install it, press F1 when hovering on it and it will show you every rule

[brittle pasture]

all your rules require egg + milk + sugar + vanilla extract

[valid folio]

ok I’ll install it when I get back; right now I’m about to go to the hematologist haha.

[valid folio]

yes

[brittle pasture]

I recommend also adding a failure message to your item rules so it shows you/your mod users what items are needed

right now your machine rules just fail silently which makes debugging harder

[valid folio]

Yes, but since the machine generates various products that use different rules, sometimes the messages can’t be made in a way that’s correct for what you want to create. That’s why I haven’t added it for now.

[brittle pasture]

you can make your message more generic

[lucid iron]

Yeah it is a loop, but as long as you EditImage the tilesheet you can change it easily

I'm not sure if gil is a named tile property

Hence why i think just editing the texture assets (map tilesheet and portraits) is easier

[valid folio]

Yes, but the crème anglaise rule uses sugar, which is also used by the smoothie. So if I only have sugar in the inventory and try to create something, the smoothie message appears. I’ll add the message when I get back, but from what I’ve experienced, the correct message doesn’t always show up when there are ingredients that are repeated in other recipes.

[valid nova]

Since I assume people here know C# can anyone lmk if this question is wrong or if I am the fool? It's the official microsoft course but the questions are AI generated :/ wanna know if I missed smth or if I should report the question

[valid folio]

What do you suggest the message should say?

[woeful lintel]

Hey, I'm having difficulties making a working seasonal AT pack: currenty, the Winter variant is the only one showing in all seasons, do I have to give them separate Ids?

[valid nova]

I just wanna learn to make a mod and now I am worried its all just AI slop on the microsoft stuff

[iron ridge]

it's technically correct but if you call it again, as in:

Console.WriteLine("Hello!");
Console.Write("How are you today?");
Console.Write("I'm Good");

you'd get

Hello
How are you today?I'm Good

WriteLine automatically adds a new line to the end, Write doesn't, so in this context WriteLine would probably be preferred

[woeful lintel]

that sucks ass. Classic MS move

[valid nova]

Ok so it prolly just wasn't what it was looking for even if it was technically correct in that scenerio then ig? Might still report cause I think it is good for them to be technically correct in this kinda thing but that makes a lot of sense, ty :)

[valid folio]

Ok, guys, I’m heading out. I’ll bother you later haha.

[valid nova]

yeah love when everything gets changed to AI and becomes significantly worse

[gray bear]

looking at other mods that do it just seems to be folder names

[woeful lintel]

I'm having trouble with how the texture.json is setup

[gray bear]

i can take a look at this mod

[woeful lintel]

hold on, I wrote "Season" instead of "Seasons"

[gray bear]

yeh that might be it

[woeful lintel]

on another note, I can't seem to replace scarecrows and rarecrows

even though I wrote "CollectiveName": ["Scarecrow", "Rarecrow"]

[gray bear]

solution is download more idala mod

it's Collective Names

S be mean to you

[woeful lintel]

[gray bear]

its fine i've had that happen a lot

[woeful lintel]

I must have been really really eepy when I wrote that

[gray bear]

{{Seasons}} token be doing nothing yknow

mistakes happen! also misclicks

[woeful lintel]

god damn, I have to split the farmhouse spritesheet into each upgrade

[gray bear]

u can at the farmhouse?

[woeful lintel]

yup https://github.com/Floogen/AlternativeTextures/tree/stable/AlternativeTextures/Examples/[AT] Example Pack/Textures/Buildings/Farmhouse_0

[gray bear]

wow

[woeful lintel]

wait what? I never realized different variations could be in the same spritesheet

[gray bear]

fancy

[lucid iron]

Is there a reason why you are using AT instead of skins

[humble timber]

half joking question bc we were talking about innate enchants in seasoned:
how difficult would it be to make it so you can add innate enchants to any level weapon

i doubt theres already a mod that does this bc its so niche lmao

[gray bear]

is that not already the case

can't u enchant any weapon

oh wait

[humble timber]

innate enchants are different from regular enchants Bea xd

[gray bear]

i ddin't know those were a thing

[humble timber]

theyre a 1.6 thing

added to make non galaxy weapons viable

[oblique meadow]

Does anyone have any examples of using the Cloudy Skies framework to water dirt? Im using the readme and Im not fully grasping it and none of the linked examples on Nexus are necessarily helping....

[lucid iron]

C#

Or 1.6.16

[humble timber]

well yeah i assumed it would be C#

[uncut viper]

can you do the innate enchantments in 1.6.16?

[humble timber]

but 1.6.16

[lucid iron]

I thought you can add enchantments via item queries

[humble timber]

[uncut viper]

you can definitely at least add the named enchantments

"The innate enchantments are in data, but the logic to choose which to apply is still hardcoded."

[oblique meadow]

Doesn't the Advanced Melee Framework allow for enchantments?

[humble timber]

To be clear Im talking about specifically removing the presumably hard coded limit of level 15 for innate enchants so they can be added to modded weapons that happen to have high levels

Basically I wanna be able to see what happens if you manage to roll a disgusting crit innate on RSV weapons lmao

[tropic hare]

How exactly should I edit the tilesheet to make it more similar to the opening animation of the Shipping Bin? Should I set the trigger action to play the animation when the player approaches?

[uncut viper]

it could technically be done with BETAS Harmony, not that i necessarily recommend that

[humble timber]

Lmao

[lucid iron]

If you are attached to having animation depend on player proximity then you will need some kind of framework i think?

Unless gil rocks chair faster when you close (i don't believe so)

[humble timber]

doesnt

[lucid iron]

I guess u can do dumb things with ftm spawning a furniture to use mmap draw layers and auto opening

This experiment spawns an auto sliding door in town

You can presumably do smth like this

[tropic hare]

Yes! The ShippingBin is very similar to the auto sliding door! Thank you! I'll give it a try right now!😆

[brittle pasture]

missed this (took a nap), but for your fruit input rule something like “missing prerequisite ingredients, such as yogurt for smoothie/etc.”

[hard fern]

🤔 eugrhhh... im in a pickle. (of sorts) i need to find a way to turn wool into yarn. but the problem is that stardew valley is cursed and we have a loom that visually resembles a spinning wheel and it magically turns unspun wool into cloth

this is like. a really funny problem

im not exactly sure what to do

i can create like. a second "loom" and call it a spinning wheel

that's exclusively used to just turn wool into yarn

[humble timber]

Lmao

Make a loom retexture that makes it not a wheel. ez

[hard fern]

i mean that's easy

i got a loom right here

[urban patrol]

how are NPCs catching you digging through garbage handled? could i implement something similar if they catch you digging in the graveyard (without C# ideally?)

[tiny zealot]

you would need C# for that (either your own or a framework. i don't know of an existing framework)

[urban patrol]

okay got it

thanks

i’m not opposed to having C# components to my mod but it’s just so intimidating lmao

[lucid iron]

I guess u can do it with some betas triggers of you are ok with hardcoding who has responses

[urban patrol]

oh like, list out vanilla/my NPCs but can’t catch modded NPCs?

[lucid iron]

Yeah

[urban patrol]

could at least be a good workaround until i get the courage to try learning C# again lol

hmmm i can’t find anything that would work for tool used/npc nearby or anything like that, but something i COULD do it upon item gained (bones) add CT to everyone “wow did you hear someone robbed the graveyard, how horrible”

[sharp crystal]

Is it possible to create recipe with a ContextTags as ingredient (exemple my mod add some eggs variants and I want to allow the recipe with theses variants) vanilla recicpes have some generic ingredients like eggs, milk, cheese, etc.

[brittle pasture]

not without spacecore

though you don’t need it for egg or milk as long as your items are of the appropriate category

vanilla supports (only some) category ingredients like “any egg” or “any milk”

[sharp crystal]

So if I want custom group of items for recipe, spacecore mod can allow that ?

[lucid iron]

Ye

[red citrus]

hi can anyone of you point me towards the modding documentation for the game?

[tiny zealot]

[[Modding:Index]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Index

[red citrus]

i have an idea that's simple enough it should be possible to do with my work's chatgpt pro subscription lol

[sharp crystal]

where can I find a good example for that with spacecore ?

[humble timber]

.

!chatgpt

whats the command

[tiny zealot]

please don't use chatgpt to make your mod. if it's simple, you should do it yourself and will probably have more success. if it's complex, you will definitely have more success

[gaunt orbit]

!chatgptmods

[uncut viper]

also, AI generated mods are not allowed to be shared here

[gaunt orbit]

Hm

[uncut viper]

!chatgptcode

[ocean sail]

Please stop trying to get ChatGPT to write your C# mods for you, especially if you don't know how to write C#. It won't work without heavy editing, and it wastes everyone's time.

Large language models fundamentally are reguritating something from their input—which is roughly speaking, the written output of humanity up until 2021 or so, for ChatGPT. For specific, niche topics like "is this framework going to do what I want" or "which things does Game1.cs have access to", it probably has no idea! But it's good at detecting that people in the past have....said things about frameworks and written things in C#, so it does its best to assemble words and symbols into a nice order for you. Sometimes it tells you true things, and sometimes it tells you false things, and if you can't detect when, you're in trouble. When you're writing code, this usually produces garbage, because you can't be "sort of similar", you have to be exactly correct or it won't work.

To use this command, type !chatgptcode.

[gray bear]

do we need a command

o!

u can make an alias for it wren

[humble timber]

ohhh

[red citrus]

i mean chatgpt probably codes better than i do, specially if i give it the entire documentation of how to mod a game

why are u against it

[humble timber]

💀

[red citrus]

it's just for fun

[uncut viper]

then neither you nor the AI will have sucess creating a stardew mod, then

[gaunt orbit]

I think my rank is only allowed to define one command right?

[uncut viper]

either way, its not allowed in this server

[iron ridge]

it probably won't
enough of the docs only exist in code that the usage of said code is illegal

[tiny zealot]

it is against the server rules, for starters

[ocean sail]

chatgptmods is now an alias for chatgptcode!

[gray bear]

cheetos can alias cmds ^

[gaunt orbit]

Aaaah useful

Thank you pillow

[round timber]

well pillow is also bot maintenance so idk if thats true

[iron ridge]

i dont think that gives me perms

just the icon

[uncut viper]

im like 85% sure ive seen a mod author add an alias before

[gray bear]

i was able to when i was orange

[uncut viper]

maybe 90%

[round timber]

ok cool i dont remember what we've done with all these perms

[gray bear]

pretty sure i added an alias, maybe they changed it

[brittle pasture]

the documentation for spacecore is probably your best bet
as for examples, Cornucopia Artisan Machines have a couple recipe overrides to accept “any cheese” instead of just regular cow cheese, though it is a big mod

[oblique meadow]

Ok. I've hit a wall. I think im almost there but im stumped. I am trying to have Cloudy Skies trigger the WaterDirt event inside my greenhouse when the player has the GHSprinklers flag. I am getting no errors, but no results either. Any nudges in the right direction or help would be appreciated.

"Changes": [
        {
              "LogName": "Greenhouse Sprinklers Run",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Mods/leclair.cloudyskies/WeatherData",
            "Entries": {        
                "Husky.Greenhouse_water": {
                    "Id": "Husky.Greenhouse_water",
                    "IsRaining": true,
                    "IsLightning": false,
                    "Condition": "LOCATION_NAME Target Greenhouse"
                },
            "When": {"HasFlag: CurrentPlayer": "{{ModId}}_GHSprinklers"},
            },                    
        },
        
        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
            "Entries": {
            "Husky.Greenhouse_water1": {
                "Id": "Husky.Greenhouse_water1",
                "Trigger": "DayEnding",
                "Condition": "CS_WEATHER Greenhouse -1 Husky.Greenhouse_water",
                "Actions": [
                    "leclair.cloudyskies_WaterDirt Context Greenhouse"
],},},},],}```

Im sure it's something stupid...

[brittle pasture]

you don’t really need the custom weather thing (and it probably doesn’t work with indoor locations anyway)

just use the waterdirt action

[red citrus]

ty

[red citrus]

i'll report back if i can get it to work

[uncut viper]

again, it is against server rules

so, i wouldnt

[urban patrol]

is there any kind of condition (looking to use a When) for farmer is wearing a specific ring? vanilla, spacecore, BETAS?

[red citrus]

i won't share it here dw

[uncut viper]

i dont care if someone gets an AI mod working or not

[red citrus]

dunno the why behind the rule but i respect it

[round timber]

we can just leave the topic here guys

[uncut viper]

i think you would need either BETAS or Item Extensions to set a mail flag upon equipping it

SpaceCore might have stuff for equippables now that I think about it too but Im not sure if thats actions in general or just buffs

I don't remember

[urban patrol]

gotcha, i was thinking that but wasn’t sure if it would be too roundabout lol

[uncut viper]

otherwise there's definitely not a token for what the player has equipped and i dont remember if there is a GSQ for it

[urban patrol]

i had the idea of “when ring equipped, upon getting damaged, add item to inventory”

[uncut viper]

i know theres one for trinkets

[brittle pasture]

what I’ve seen done is spacecore ring buffs + have buff gsq

[urban patrol]

yeah i made a custom ring before with spacecore

[uncut viper]

spacecore buffs might be technically more reliable since that probably would react better if another mod removed your rings for you

the BETAS ItemUnequipped trigger would catch that if they called Farmer.unequip but if the other mod doesnt do that then idk, but Im assuming spacecore just continuously checks if you have it equipped maybe?

[hard fern]

i misread well as wet and was about to ask "if there's a wet pillow, is there a dry pillow?"

[humble timber]

LMAO

[lucid iron]

I think player wearing x is a reasonable gsq to request

[urban patrol]

what’s an example of another mod removing rings?

[lucid iron]

To go with player has trinket

[lucid iron]

Suggest for 1.6.16 i mean

[urban patrol]

i can throw that in the thread

[uncut viper]

i dont know any mod that removes rings, i just like to consider the ways a mod might be incompatible with some things

[lucid iron]

Idk about removing rings but you can make it not functioning maybe

What's the desired function

[uncut viper]

also it should of course be said that if you want to use this in a When condition, remember that it will absolutely not update when the player equips or unequips it

as patches only update according to their updaterate (without something like BETAS PatchUpdate)

[urban patrol]

when wearing ring and only when wearing ring, upon taking damage, add an item to inventory

[urban patrol]

oh yeah good to remember

i was conceptualizing it as a trigger action gated by a when but maybe trigger action with two conditions instead?

not sure how often those are checked

[lucid iron]

This is pretty easy to do as a trinket tbh

[uncut viper]

imo aside from HasMod i dont think i can think of a situation where gating a TriggerAction behind a When makes sense

[urban patrol]

sure i’m not against it being a trinket lol i just don’t know anything about them

[lucid iron]

Though the logic wouldn't be wearing per say, it's ability enabled

[uncut viper]

rings can be obtained much earlier than trinkets though

[lucid iron]

You can make a ring equip a trinket

[urban patrol]

what if i give the trinket? or is that specifically a late game thing (i legitimately have never played with trinkets)

[lucid iron]

That's what dolphininaf did actually

[uncut viper]

i feel like thats not really solving the problem ehre though bc the problem isnt the ability

[lucid iron]

Used betas to make a hat that equipped a hidden trinket

[uncut viper]

its detecting the ring being equipped

the ability is also easy via BETAS

[lucid iron]

You can give trinkets items any time, but you won't have the trinket slot

This can be worked around if you are willing to increment the stat though

If you are willing to +1 dependency then trinket tinker just has a whole ability system that is "active when equipped"

[uncut viper]

she would still need to solve the "detect when the ring is put on"

unless nic wants to JUST use a trinket and not a ring at all

[lucid iron]

yeah that is the query here do you want to do that

[calm nebula]

(I think a trinket would be cool)

[urban patrol]

if i could get around the need for trinket slot by giving a ring that enables a trinket that would be fine by me

or giving whatever that enables the trinket

[uncut viper]

then we are back at square one

[lucid iron]

But hm if you do that

I feel like it's not really different than just using betas to enable a trigger action

[urban patrol]

the most important thing to me is that the player controls when it is and isn’t active

doesn’t have to be is wearing an item, but wanted it to be more immersive than “toggle config on”

[lucid iron]

But yeah you can also just use a purely vanilla trinket here

Solely because there is a purely vanilla gsq for trinket is equipped

[calm nebula]

I think 1.6.16 may add a gsq for any item equipped tbh

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/TrinketTinker/blob/main/[FullMod]/[CP] Pack Possum and Critter Cages/data/early-trinket-slot.json

[urban patrol]

that runs on the same is active system that trinket tinker does?

[lucid iron]

This example adds the slot early but it will literally unlock all trinkets for random drop

[lucid iron]

No the trinket tinker ability stuff is mod only

[urban patrol]

gotcha

[lucid iron]

What you would do without tt is

Create a trinket that doesn't do anything itself

[uncut viper]

not at the moment it doesnt

[lucid iron]

PLAYER_HAS_TRINKET <player> <trinket ID>

Use this gsq to check that it's equipped

[uncut viper]

(tbh i couldve sworn BETAS had it. ive got too many things in my own mod to remember them all...)

[lucid iron]

Do whatever trigger actions stuff you need for ability

[urban patrol]

that sounds doable

how often are GSQs checked?

[uncut viper]

i would like to emphasize what chu said about it enabling all trinket drops though

[lucid iron]

I think this is fine for ur function besides the slot jank

It's whenever your trigger runs

Gsq are not cached

[urban patrol]

i’ll have to look up trinkets to understand this more i think

[lucid iron]

Yeah this part is pretty big lol

[uncut viper]

normally you can only get trinkets after unlocking the mastery cave

which is pretty late game

[urban patrol]

yeah i’ve never done it lmao

[woeful lintel]

people ask a lot for an AT port of the Updated Seasonal Japanese Buildings mod

[uncut viper]

getting trinkets early can be very busted balance wise

[lucid iron]

I personally feel trinkets is a late game thing

[humble timber]

meh i did all 5 masteries by fall 15th year 1 on my first ever save where i did mastery

[urban patrol]

tbh i was thinking of having this mod be an add on to my main mod anyway, so i’m not against adding additional dependencies

[uncut viper]

that is not the average experience

[lucid iron]

So you can balance them to be more op on various ways

[lucid iron]

You can add AT support in CP now

[uncut viper]

but even still if you're getting 5 masteries by fall 15, then the trinkets are still balanced bc you've done a lot to that point

[urban patrol]

would i be breaking the game by enabling slots

[uncut viper]

but like, imagine getting the Parrot trinket on day 2

[woeful lintel]

is there any doc on this?

[uncut viper]

sure, it scales with total farm income so its not SUPER strong at the start, but thats still a lot of easy cash

[lucid iron]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Change_Building_Appearances

CP version of this mod is setup with skins https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30553

[uncut viper]

it wouldnt be broken as in non-functional. but the balance would be very skewed, definitely, especially if the player has other mods that add other trinkets that are strictly only meant to be gained late game

[lucid iron]

Mods that add trinkets can ban theirs from random drop (i usually do)

But y'know zero guarantee here

[woeful lintel]

oh, yeah, I knew about Building skins, I looked up how cabins work a while ago

[uncut viper]

if they use Trinket Tinker

[lucid iron]

And no way for you to edit all of them

[urban patrol]

ohhh so trinkets are normally gotten by like digging or tree shaking or whatever

[lucid iron]

No ban random drop is vanilla

It's a field on Data/Trinkets

[urban patrol]

and getting trinkets is available whenever?

[uncut viper]

oh, is it? thats good to know

[woeful lintel]

It bother me to make a AT/CP mixed pack, but I guess it'd be easier

[uncut viper]

i wouldnt bank on it though

if i was making a trinket i wouldnt ban it from random drop

bc i wouldnt expect it to be able to drop in spring 1

no, getting trinkets is not available whenever

its available after unlocking one of the masteries in the mastery cave

[lucid iron]

I had various dum ideas about dealing with it and eventually I just went whatever trinket slot cheat goes brrr

[uncut viper]

enabling or disabling random drops controls whether that happens after you get the mastery

or if you want them given specifically like via shop or mail or w/e

but no trinket can drop randomly until you get the mastery

[urban patrol]

okay. and does enabling the slots also enable the drops?

[uncut viper]

or increment that stat via other means

[lucid iron]

Yep

[uncut viper]

yes, for all trinkets

[urban patrol]

i see

[uncut viper]

(aside the aforementioned ones that disable random drops)

also in my experience i tend to get way too many of them

and they sell for like 1,000 each

[lucid iron]

Yeah they r balanced for late game

[humble timber]

i just hoard them in a big chest and sell occasionally

you really only get a shitload if you do a lot of sc runs

[uncut viper]

if you asked my opinion of it, i would say "definitely do not increment that stat early"

[lucid iron]

The parrot egg alone breaks early game econ

[woeful lintel]

ok yeah, Imma ditch AT buildings and use skins, let's just hope users won't notice the CP requirement

[urban patrol]

i was planning this for a very niche aspect of a magic system where this would be one way to get a potion ingredient, and honestly i’m not against it being late game, since the potions themselves would likely be powerful as well but require a lot of work

[lucid iron]

In nano's i setup so that all buildings had off/skin/replace config

[uncut viper]

if you're fine with it being late game, then i think just using the usual trinket system works well

[lucid iron]

There's an edge case that don't like building skin, shipping bin

It's cus the anim is hardcoded

[uncut viper]

chu, is it possible with Trinket Tinker to do that "gain item" thing with a TT trinket but have the item drop where the trinket companion is?

[woeful lintel]

oh that's nice, I can put that in the base CP mod, and have AT only cover craftables and furniture.

[uncut viper]

i know it can be done with vanilla + BETAS but I think the trinket dropping the item would look cooler

[urban patrol]

yeah until we get player has item equipped GSQ i think that this is the approach i’ll go with

[lucid iron]

I think the debris is relative to the companion actually

Let me check what i wrote lol

[uncut viper]

(not that im saying nic has to do that ofc if she doesnt want a dependency, im just curious)

[urban patrol]

no that would def be better than just “appears in inventory”

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/TrinketTinker/blob/main/TrinketTinker/Effects/Abilities/ItemDropAbility.cs#L49

It makes a debris (dropped item) around the visual location of the companion

But obviously you need a companion

Otherwise default to farmer position

[urban patrol]

but still is debris?

[lucid iron]

Yeah

[urban patrol]

sick

[uncut viper]

(also given that i thought BETAS already did have it, i am absolutely going to have an "item equipped" GSQ in the next BETAS update. i still do like the trinket idea better, though)

[lucid iron]

But y'know, picks up basically immediately

Cus it's right on you

[urban patrol]

yeah makes sense

i gotta brainstorm what a companion could look like for this

[uncut viper]

is it something to do with necromancy or somethin

[urban patrol]

ugh animating sprites though… hell

[uncut viper]

since you were mentioning graveyards earlier

[urban patrol]

yeah lmao it’s blood

[lucid iron]

Finally time for my diablo legendary +11 trousers mod

[uncut viper]

blood vial

[urban patrol]

didn’t want to skeeve anyone out though

[urban patrol]

with little bat wings ❤️ lmao

[uncut viper]

idk why but the idea that you mightve played diablo surprises me

[tiny zealot]

(at the start of each combat, heal 2 hp)

[sacred thistle]

hello

[uncut viper]

im missing a reference here i feel like

[lucid iron]

I watched my cousin play

Another smol chu memory

[uncut viper]

(i think that would look cute actually)

[lucid iron]

I did try poe though

But alas laptop too weak

[uncut viper]

time to add it to my collection of other smol chu memories that i definitely have stored somewhere

[tiny zealot]

welcome!

[sacred thistle]

thank you

[tame orbit]

hi guys, so regarding the paths tilesheet. when we are making our own custom maps, what do we put in the TileSet? do we just copy the existing paths.png into the assets folder for said custom map?

[urban patrol]

are you referring to paths as in dirt and stone paths, or the paths that denote specific properties like light and bushes?

[tame orbit]

paths as in the 0-36 for tile properties with the lights/trees/bushes/etc

but accessing the regular files with dirt and grass textures would be good too if there's a way to not need to copy paste it

[tiny zealot]

you need to have any vanilla tilesheets in your map folder when making the map in Tiled (iro's tiled plugin to work around this notwithstanding). but when packaging/distributing your mod, you should not include those images in your asset folder

[tame orbit]

ooo okay so I use them in the folder with the map while making. then once I complete the custom map delete them from the assets folder? and it will use the vanilla one instead?

[tiny zealot]

yes. your mod will work if you do include vanilla copies, but the game will load your copies of the tilesheets for use on your map instead of the vanilla ones, so if any other mod tried to edit those for general use, your mod will not be compatible with them

[urban patrol]

yes, but you may also need to deal with tile sheet climbing if you get an error that mentions “../../“

[tame orbit]

ooo okay thank you guys!! I'll try it out

[oblique meadow]

ok. Update but stumped again.

If I type the command: "'leclair.cloudyskies_WaterDirt Locations Greenhouse --indoors'." into smapi it works perfectly. But this is not working....

      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
      "Entries": {
        "Husky.Greenhouse_water": {
          "Id": "Husky.Greenhouse_water",
          "Trigger": "LocationChanged",
          "Actions": [
            "leclair.cloudyskies_WaterDirt Locations Greenhouse --indoors",
            "MarkActionApplied All Husky.Greenhouse_water false"
        ]}},},    ```

Am I calling the command wrong?

[uncut viper]

you can't mark itself unapplied

you should instead set the MarkActionApplied field on the trigger action itself to false

[urban patrol]

(and then test on a new save, because it will have already run)

[uncut viper]

If you've already saved after activating this trigger once though (even a previous iteration of it, as long as it has the same id) you will need to mark it unapplied manually or use a new save

[oblique meadow]

Ah ha! Thanks Button. I had the right idea just the wrong execution. It's working now

[tame orbit]

One more quick question regarding path tiles. I know there is a Paths Tile Index (8) for adding Light Properties. I see it says Indoors and Festivals Only.
How would I go about making an outdoor street lamp that turns on at night?
Would I just set a condition for "When": { "Time": {{Range: , }} }
Or is there a way to make the light turn on automatically when it becomes nighttime?

[urban patrol]

you should use night tiles/day tiles for that [[Modding:Maps]] look under map & tile changes

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[honest needle]

Can anyone help with loading custom bundle sprites from a custom sheet? I'm having trouble with it

[urban patrol]

sure! what are you seeing, any errors?

[honest needle]

No errors, but I can't figure out how to load them from a modded location

I'm trying to replace the icon of the wild medicine bundle with a new one and don't know how without changing the default file

[lucid iron]

Is that something doable hrm

Prob need to edit bundle data

[honest needle]

I'm pretty sure its doable by editing the bundle data but I don't know how to go about that

[uncut viper]

i dont think bundle data supports custom spritesheets?

(she says, uncertainly)

i see something about a bundleTextureOverride in the code but im not exactly sure how you'd format it either since it seems to use the displayName slot?

[honest needle]

Would it be possible to load from a different spritesheet by replacing them and using that instead?

[lucid iron]

Ig it's also like what do you gain by loading to new asset

Why not editimage

[uncut viper]

like maybe AssetName:DisplayNameGoesHere for the display name field

unless the displayname is not in fact field 5

on further looking that might only be for random bundles

[oblique meadow]

ok. Last question for today. Do building upgrades HAVE to be linear. Or can I do something like:
"BuildingToUpgrade": [{"GreenhouseSprinklers"},{"Greenhouse3"}], So people can build only the parts they want?

[uncut viper]

actually the bundles wiki page says theres only 6 fields total in the value but Data/Bundles.json seems to have 7...

@honest needle try changing the second to last field in the bundle data to something with the format AssetName:SpriteIndex
so for spring crops for example:
Spring Crops/O 465 20/24 1 0 188 1 0 190 1 0 192 1 0/0//MyAssetName:3/Spring Crops
to change the texture to the one you loaded to MyAssetName and using the 3rd sprite index in that texture

[autumn tide]

Okay fairly pointless question bc I will probably never try, but is it possible to add schedules to NPCs without a schedule, or to change marriage schedules for NPCs?

For example, krobus lacks a schedule in the game files afaik

[gray bear]

yeah he just stands there

but he is a full npc so that should work afaik

and changing marriage schedules is def possible

[lucid iron]

I think you just need to Load blank json to Characters/schedule/Krobus

[gray bear]

and then should be able to edit it?

[honest needle]

It worked thank you!

[brittle ledge]

Marriage schedules are, uh, A Thing, so I'd recommend looking at Spacecore 's Ignore marriage schedule and Custom Schedule Keys (and then cross your fingers.)

[uncut viper]

happy to hear it! someone who isnt me should update the wiki page

[gaunt orbit]

That's... not valid json.
That aside, does the wiki say that field is a list or a single value?

[gray bear]

oh wait i thought you could just edit them? are they hardcoded (marriage dialouges)

[hard fern]

marriage dialogue isnt hardcoded, you can edit them

[gray bear]

wait i meant schedules,,,

[hard fern]

marriage schedules are just cursed.

[gray bear]

cursed as in?

[brittle ledge]

They're not hardcoded per se, but a lot of their behavior is

[gaunt orbit]

Wiki says that it's a single value, so one building type can have multiple upgrades, but each upgrade can only be applied to one building type

You could fake it by having two identical upgrades with different base buildings, however if you have one of each base building it would show up twice in the menu

Also any further upgrades would require duplicates as well

[oblique meadow]

I knew it wasn't valid. I was throwing it together for a dumb example.
And yes. I must have overlooked that line before, so i found a workaround

[weary pivot]

Hi. Is it possible to allow players to enter data through GMCM? Would rather use a number slider but can't find documentation that tells you how to format things for that. Am also trying to use that value in this CP mod, but VS code is saying that it's an error and not telling me why.

        "CustomPortraitxOffset": {
            "AllowBlank": "true",
            "Section": "Custom Portrait Settings",
            "Description": "Use a custom Portrait xOffset value."
        },

      {
        "Name": "PortraitxOffset",
        "Value": {{CustomPortraitxOffset}}, <- this part seems to be a problem
        "When": {
            "DefaultAll": false,
            "DefaultPortraitxOffset": false
        }
      },```

[brittle ledge]

Look at Demetrius Visits Farm Cave Redux, I think it does what you're wanting to do in its config

[weary pivot]

Thanks! I'll have a look now.

[uncut viper]

(though as for the VS Code error, thats because you dont have any quotes around it)

[weary pivot]

Ah, ok. Guess there's gonna be errors I have to ignore because it's exclusively CP code stuff.

[uncut viper]

no, thats an error you need to fix

its not valid json

and i believe dynamic token values are always strings anyway

but even if they werent, you'd need quotes

[weary pivot]

Oh! I was using this bit from the CP docs as reference and assumed that the token part itself wasn't a string.

      // as a token
      {
         "Action": "Load",
         "Target": "LooseSprites/Billboard",
         "FromFile": "assets/material_{{Material}}.png"
      },```

Thank you!

[uncut viper]

its certainly not a number

if its not a number or a bool or null, its a string

(or an object/list but those are more obvious cases)

if its in quotes, its a string

so that {{Material}} is still within a string

the {{ }} syntax has nothing to do with json at all and is just a way that Pathos decided we needed to write specific things inside strings to tell CP that its a certain CP thing

it couldve just as easily been [[ ]] or || || or some other symbols

but its all still just a string as far as json is concerned

CP just replaces those bits of strings with different strings

[weary pivot]

That makes a lot of sense. It's still a json file in the end.

[hard fern]

hi bea u know all about local tokens

[gray bear]

sure

[hard fern]

🤔 i still dont really get how you do this for multiple items where you want them to all have different values

[gray bear]

values as in names/price/etc?

[hard fern]

do you just do the "include" 900 million times and just put different local tokens each time

[uncut viper]

you'd need to Include the same template multipole times

but each include patch has different localtoken values set

[gray bear]

yes

[hard fern]

oh ok

[gray bear]

u can set anything with local tokens, just token it

[uncut viper]

if the ONLY thing in the include is a single patch for a single item it doesnt really save you that much time and effort

but if the template is more complex than that it does

[gray bear]

what i did with gaystries was this
has a data file with all the flags and just loaded diff options. you can do this with colors

and add more local tokens, make a party

[dusky sigil]

i'm making an npc whose schedule changes based on heart level. my question is, will that cause issues in multiplayer when different players are at different heart levels with him?

[urban patrol]

i believe the default is the host's heart level with the NPC

[dusky sigil]

if it's just based on the host, that would be ideal

[urban patrol]

hmm content patcher token Hearts actually doesn't say

i would still assume host but idk

[fresh tree]

Hey guys i need a little help...Can I give the player their first backpack increase right after starting the game? If so, how?

[ornate locust]

You can make code specifically reference the host though, right?

would safeguard against that "Whose hearts" thing

[uncut viper]

im not sure if you can for Hearts, since it already takes a different input

[lucid iron]

I think it's hardcoded

[ornate locust]

hmm

[urban patrol]

you could presumably use host with a different token or perhaps a GSQ but idk

[uncut viper]

i feel like the NPC would use the hosts schedule regardless though?

[ornate locust]

yeah I see what you mean

[uncut viper]

since in multiplayer a lot of the times the NPC would be fake if not in the same location anyway

but i dont know if it gets weird or not

this is just a guess

[urban patrol]

multiplayer scares me tbh. what do you mean fake NPC

[dusky sigil]

i guess i'll just have to test it

[uncut viper]

Not all game data is always synced to players

[fresh tree]

Thanks

[uncut viper]

If a farmhand is not in Location A, then its a waste of bandwidth to send all the data about Location A constantly to the Farmhand

especially to do that for every single location in the game

the same is true for NPCs. if the farmhand cannot see the NPC bc they are elsewhere, why bother sending data over the network to them?

[urban patrol]

but the host has that data?

[uncut viper]

correct

[urban patrol]

inch resting

[uncut viper]

and when the farmhand enters a location they ask the host for that data

[urban patrol]

i mean makes sense

[uncut viper]

some locations ARE always synced

this is what an AlwaysActive location is

so, the Farm for example

[urban patrol]

the farm, for example?

lol

[uncut viper]

farmhands can always see accurate data on the farm, and anywhere else marked as AlwaysActive, and ofc wherever they currently are

otherwise, you cannot trust that they have an accurate view of things

Haley might be at the Beach in reality, but if the Farmhand is in the mines, and they do "debug whereis Haley" or w/e, it could easily tell them shes at her house in bed

this is like the main reason multiplayer compatibility can be a pain in the ass sometimes

[urban patrol]

yeah definitely could see that

[uncut viper]

the host ofc has all the data about everything all the time always so things like checking where an NPC is will always work in singleplayer

but it means things like all the BETAS queries about where an NPC is or what mod data a location has needs special consideration

(and other modded queries and stuff too obv im just using BETAS as an example)

[valid folio]

Hi! I’m back and I was able to fix the problem of not being able to make crème anglaise in my dairy processor. How did I solve it? I rewrote the code. First, I made a simple entry: put in an egg, get crème anglaise. Then I added one more ingredient and tested again, and kept doing that until I had all the ingredients (egg, sugar, milk, vanilla extract). So now I can make Italian-style ice cream! Unless I wrote the Italian ice cream rule wrong haha. Next comes the drama of drawing the sprites. Anyway, thanks to everyone who was helping me this afternoon, even though we couldn’t solve the problem, thanks to you I learned a lot of things I didn’t know.

[hot gale]

Have the ability to see which dwarf moved into which cabin now :D

[obtuse wigeon]

Looking good! you're making quick progress!

[hot gale]

Thank you! :D

Think I am going to start working on introducing the first job to the town

[lucid iron]

dwarf fortress valley

[hot gale]

kind of haha 🤣

[obtuse wigeon]

I've always been intimidated to start playing dwarf fortress, Colony valley may be the kick I need to play it

[hot gale]

Colony Valley is a much better name damn 🤣

I've been using MayorsTown as a placeholder lmao

Mayor Lewis is the point of contact for the mod

[obtuse wigeon]

Trying to concatanate MineColonies and Stardew Valley into something that didn't sound minecrafty is HARD

[hot gale]

right lol

[obtuse wigeon]

honestly MayorsTown is better than I'd come up with, my place holder would be townBuildyThingy, I have an in progress mod called TeleportyThingy so it fits

[hot gale]

It's been real fun so far

aside from trying to use FarmerRender

which was pure hell

[obtuse wigeon]

haha glad I was here during to so I learned never to use it that's for sure

[hot gale]

Dwarfs I think are a cooler idea anyway, I may end up changing up the sprite to make their shirt/cape colorable in code to add more randomization to them

[obtuse wigeon]

Tinting the colours using the code is a much better idea than making individual sprites for each peice of clothing, good thinking

[lucid iron]

are u gonna make a cave map then

[hot gale]

Damn

Why did you have to say that

Welp

Thats going on the board 🤣

[lucid iron]

i hand out scope creep for free

[oblique meadow]

….no comment

[hot gale]

you monster 🤣

[calm nebula]

I expect payment (||in your sanity||) for scope creep

[hard fern]

im gonna cry i threw off my entire spriteindex count because i went from 25 -> 30 because i managed to ???? count??? incorrectly

[hot gale]

Damn

F

[dusky sigil]

update on the npc multiplayer schedule: it looks like the schedule is always based on the host player, but other things that depend on hearts are linked to individual players, which is the behavior i was hoping for. unless my testing wasn't thorough enough, which is possible

[valid nova]

Is it weird that testing and searching the logs for problems is my favourite part of mod making? In minecraft I literally just volunteer to break things and find the problem and sometimes also the solution lol

I am excited for my first stardew mod to have many problems to fix

[lucid iron]

@violet valley hello you are the author of this mod right https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/29329

i know someone who would like to translate the UI portion to chinese, but it is not possible atm because this mod doesn't use the translation helper in smapi. would you be willing to add support for it?

[hard fern]

🤔 speaking of translations as a random... question, i guess.. does anyone know what "perfection" would be called in japanese. (not just the word) Like in english we just call getting perfection "getting perfection" but im not sure what that would equate to in other languages.

[lucid iron]

You can prob check the game files to find out

[brave fable]

it's almost certainly already translated, which is fortunate since there's maybe 2 japanese translators in the community

[hard fern]

im doing that right now but honestly idk where i'd even find something like that in english...

[brave fable]

i'd recommend searching your decompile for "perfection" to find the EN translation, then searching for the matching key in the .jp file

ctrl-shift-F to search-in-files in most text editors

[hard fern]

「完璧」oh here it is

[tiny zealot]

fascinating

"StatueOfTruePerfection_Name": "真の完璧の像",```

[lucid iron]

Did they oop

[hard fern]

probably? ive found the japanese translation is weirdly inconsistent

[tiny zealot]

both of them seem like fine choices but the inconsistency is funny (to me)

[obtuse wigeon]

That seems like an inconsistancy due to different dialects, not sure if that's the case specifically but dialectal differences with similar grammer occur in Welsh too

[brave fable]

it makes sense to me at least, perfection seems more likely to use the 'absolute' writing in general, but it'd be a bit stilted if the true perfection used it

[tiny zealot]

also i believe these items were added in different game versions so it shouldn't be surprising (may have been done by different people, maybe even without context)

[hard fern]

hm yeah maybe

i guess i'll just take what fizz calls it

[brave fable]

and yeah the jp translation has had a lot of small errors over the years hahah

a few items were straight-up blank for 1.5

[lucid iron]

Both of these are better than 无力的鸡 for void chicken

Powerless chicken 😔

[hard fern]

😭

[obtuse wigeon]

Pffft that's amazing

[brave fable]

and his nemesis, 力的鸡

[devout otter]

Yar, AFAIK that's why this exist. https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/23356

[lucid iron]

I ship it

❤️

[hard fern]

i should tell myself that translating will build character... (nobody is going to see the translation it's just a proof of concept for myself, really)

[calm nebula]

Got it. I'll restart my Korean duolingo courze

[lucid iron]

Translating does build character but also confusion

[obtuse wigeon]

also builds trust issues with machine translation

[hard fern]

you're right chu im so confused all the time

[uncut viper]

(are you welsh out of curiosity? :o or just aware of the dialect differences in welsh)

[obtuse wigeon]

I am indeed welsh, specifically north walian (makes a difference when refering to dialects but that's pretty much the only difference)

[uncut viper]

sadly i cannot put my welsh heart emoji on that bc of lack of nitro so just pretend that i did

[brave fable]

(wow, more than one welsh mod author. cymru valley coming together)

[uncut viper]

(i am not welsh but my wife is, shes just always happy to see other welsh people online mentioning welsh)

[obtuse wigeon]

If only nitro was cheaper

[uncut viper]

(she does help me sometimes though so i guess shes part time mod author)

[brave fable]

(limey is welsh right?)

[obtuse wigeon]

omg that awesome! Never expected to see another welsh person here

[uncut viper]

at one point my partner floated the idea of a fan Welsh translation mod but then i told her how many strings there were in the game

also last time i saw someone trying to make a welsh translation mod they ran into font issues bc of that one y

[obtuse wigeon]

That would be so fun but a MASSIVE undertaking, although I do have a lot of free time on my hands

[uncut viper]

with the diacritic

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh the ^?

[uncut viper]

yeah that one

i dont know if they ever got past that or not. i dunno anything about how to do fonts in SDV

[obtuse wigeon]

Ye that's on a lot more than the y, every vowel can have it, a e i o u and y

[uncut viper]

yeah but the font they were trying to use did not have the one with the y specifically

i dont think many languages use that one

[brave fable]

could you force the latin-extended spritefont? would that include the correct accented y?

[uncut viper]

and by font they were trying t o use i mean the font SDV Comes with

it has the other accents

[obtuse wigeon]

ahh gotcha, I thought the diacrits/accents were handled similarly to emojis? as a modifier instead of a distinct characters

[brave fable]

not in spritefonts, at least - every character is individually and arbitrarily defined

[uncut viper]

yeeep

[lucid iron]

Welsh heart emoji...

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahhh makes sense

[uncut viper]

you can see it in LooseSprites/font_bold.png

no circumflex y...

[brave fable]

same reason (of many) that there's still no arabic translation

[hard fern]

if i have to type yarn ball one more time im going to cry

[lucid iron]

Oh there was person doing that right

[brave fable]

i mean you could tokenise it into {{forbidden_item}}

[uncut viper]

make it into a dynamic token thats called "{{YRNBL}}" which is slightly better

[lucid iron]

This person

[calm nebula]

Yarn?

[uncut viper]

Ball

[brave fable]

there's been about 5 people individually attempting an arabic mod and unsurprisingly none have actually published yet

[uncut viper]

i remember that person (re: arabic/RTL)

i hope they succeed in that

[lucid iron]

Same it would be incredibly powerful

[obtuse wigeon]

they have thorn as a character but not the y with a ^? is there any languages that still use thorn?

[tiny zealot]

icelandic

[brave fable]

icelandic iirc

[tiny zealot]

thorn and eth!

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahhhh, learned something new!

[uncut viper]

(does sdv even have an icelandic translation though)

[hard fern]

🤔 can i dynamic token my i18n. like stick a token straight in the "This is my yarn ball": "yarn {{BALLED}}"

[brave fable]

technically you've learned something very, very old 🧓

[uncut viper]

you can pass in a token into the i18n token

so its kinda just more effort to do so

if the only intent is to save time

[lucid iron]

I heard the zh font is somewhat limited in glyphs too

Although still ridiculously luxurious compared to other languages lol

[brave fable]

i'm surprised given the absolute size of it

[lucid iron]

At one point it didn't have pelican

鹈鹕

[uncut viper]

using spritefonts for something like that sounds absolutely hell to me

[tiny zealot]

all i know is the zh font was changed in 1.6 and there was a big uproar about it and it got reverted or made into an option setting or something

[lucid iron]

Yeah it's option now

So like, most of Content is fonts lmao

[obtuse wigeon]

Honestly given the only diacritic in welsh is ^ the ý could be a valid replacement, It would be understood easily and not confused at least

[lucid iron]

And specifically the cjk fonts

[uncut viper]

1.6.4: "Changed the Chinese fonts to make them more appealing and readable."
1.6.6: "Reverted Chinese default font to the original"

[tiny zealot]

oof

[lucid iron]

The font is the least of the problems though

[uncut viper]

big "I'm a genius!" "Oh no!" energy

[lucid iron]

Bad translation is why ppl be mad

[uncut viper]

they did also revert text as well i see

[obtuse wigeon]

That was not a long lasting change

[uncut viper]

to whatever was in 1.6.3

i was just amused by those specific lines, given the claims made in the 1.6.4 changelog

[obtuse wigeon]

Translating to a morphemic language when you're not fluent can be quite a difficult task, translation software still has a hard time

[brave fable]

poor developers were swindled by a chinese translation salesman

[uncut viper]

i mean im sure they hired professional translators

"translation seller, i am going into gamedev, and i need your strongest chinese translations"

[brave fable]

you can't handle my most appealing translations, developer.

[obtuse wigeon]

reminds me of the funny mis translations that say "Translate service isn't available, please try again later" or similar

[lucid iron]

i think zh is prob like

[uncut viper]

what an ominous emoji choice that i dont understand yet makes perfect sense in that usage

[lucid iron]

among fastest lang to tl a mod on nexus

pt also speeb

[uncut viper]

i dunno i usually see PT-BR pretty quick

[brave fable]

i would've used left-facing goat but for some reason they removed that particular emoji

[tiny zealot]

pt-br can be a safe #2 but i gotta give it to zh i think

[lucid mulch]

wasn't some of the backlash of the new chinese translations less that it was wrong/bad but that it was mainly just... different

[lucid iron]

its colloquial and had internet speak

[uncut viper]

the old one or the newer one?

[obtuse wigeon]

I think I only ever see PT-BR translations due to my VPN being in south america (Damn you UK govornment and your stupid age verification)

[lucid iron]

so ig it's like if eng text suddenly had yo dawg in it

new one

[lucid mulch]

the one that was in 1.6 that got reverted

[brave fable]

ah, stardew valley: ace attorney investigations

i'd complain too

[obtuse wigeon]

OBJECTION! 👉

[brave fable]

infamous for having a clown shout the fresh prince of bel air theme song in court

[obtuse wigeon]

I've played a few mods that have slang and other internet speak and it completely threw me off every time

[lucid iron]

there's a few other things like mystery box going from "box of mystery" to literal "blind box"

its not wrong but kinda ruins the vibe yknow

[obtuse wigeon]

Box of mystery is a much cooler name

[uncut viper]

im assuming it doesnt come across the same way the term Blind Bag does

bc to me Blind Box makes sense and fits but that is ofc with an english interpretation

[humble timber]

[brave fable]

well blind box does have a more commoditive/marketing connotation than mystery box

[uncut viper]

sounds fitting for Qi

[brave fable]

which i'd imagine is more noticeable/literal in a zh translation

[uncut viper]

he runs a casino

[lucid iron]

blind box is the thing labubus are sold in

[brave fable]

well yes but despite the glasses i'd describe mr qi as mysterious more than blind

[uncut viper]

i dont think Blind Box implies literal blindness in English

but thats why i said "im assuming it doesnt come across that way [in a zh translation]"

[hard fern]

im going to pretend the color fucshia isn't real because i dont want to translate it

i cant even spell it right

fuchsia

[obtuse wigeon]

fun fact: fushsia also has a mandela like effect, many people think it a green hue or a pink hue (I'm not actually sure which it is but I think pink fits better)

[hard fern]

🤔 was that not the case with puce or chartreuse

i had a conversation with my mother just earlier about those colors

[obtuse wigeon]

oh it mightve been, hmmm I'm not too sure now

[brave fable]

(spelling tip: fuchsia is named after a person with the surname fuchs)

[obtuse wigeon]

looking on google, puce is defined as a dark red purplish brown colour and yet most of the images are an almost salmon pink

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6575 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1407535220227440731)

[obtuse wigeon]

(Pendanticly it's named after the fuchsia flower, which was named after a man called fuchs)

I have a question about mineral nodes, do they only spawn if a location is active? or do they spawn all the time reguardless?

[brave fable]

spawning is generally handled by the host iirc, so all locations would be active. in the case of the mines, they're regenerated whenever they're reentered, so those could also be considered always active

[obtuse wigeon]

Gotcha, that explains many of the indoor quarry areas added by mods being filled with nodes

(Thanks SVE diamond cave for the 299 diamonds)

[lucid mulch]

There's some multiplayer asterisks there, in multiplayer they only despawn (and thus eligible to be regenerated) at time changed intervals, and only floors deeper than the deepest farmer.
so if a farmhand A uses the elevator to go to floor 100 and goes fishing, farmhand B could go to floor 65, clear it out, leave, and come back to it and find its still empty.

and even for the host, if they elevator to 105, clear it, leave and immediately elevator back to 105, it will be empty if time didn't increment

[tiny zealot]

the mines is a strange place

[lucid mulch]

and for "active location" calculations, underground mine locations aren't always active, farmhand only know their current level. This is also why if farmhand A places a bomb on floor 65 while farmhand B is still on 64, and then does down a ladder they will not see the bomb until the explosion happens

[uncut viper]

they also dont actually exist until entered the first time either, i think?

[lucid mulch]

for the standard mine/skull cavern yes, they are generated on demand

I can't remember if the quarry mine floor is on demand or not as it persists for the rest of the day

and I think volcano is ahead of time generated on day start, but memory is hazy as its also persistant for the day

[calm nebula]

I doubt the volcano is pregeneration

[uncut viper]

seems to generate as soon as resetLocalState is called

or if you call VolcanoDungeon.GetLevel()

[calm nebula]

Given the bug of the volcano doing derpy stuff

[brave fable]

i was looking around the mineshaft instancing code a while ago but i don't recall when the quarry's first instanced

[calm nebula]

In splitscreen

I think thr quarry is just a mine level

[lucid mulch]

quarry mine is 77377 or something

and a bunch of hacks to make sure it pretends to not be a regular mine floor (like a farmhand there doesn't prevent regular mines despawning etc)

[calm nebula]

77377

I remember it because it looks like a bat

[obtuse wigeon]

The only bit os trivia reguarding mines is that the quarry, regular mines, and skull cavern are all in the same (floor column?)

[brave fable]

.. does it

[uncut viper]

... does it?

[obtuse wigeon]

How?

[lucid mulch]

the 3 is the body and the 7's are the wings

[uncut viper]

i dont see it

[brave fable]

looks more like a kissing while sobbing emote to me

but maybe that says more about me than you

[uncut viper]

T3T

[lucid iron]

how do you use replaceWithClone

[uncut viper]

dont you just like
idk just use it
put in the npc name and bam

[calm nebula]

Very carefully

It may cause a glitch in the universe

You can't just replace someone with their clone

[uncut viper]

you cant be sure someone hasnt already done that to you

[calm nebula]

I suspiciously dont have memories before my 13th birthday

[lucid mulch]

looking at the implementation I think a clone of a clone is safe

[calm nebula]

Otoh apparently butterflies keep memories from when they are caterpillars

[obtuse wigeon]

Wouldn't a clone have the memories? therefore you may be a doppleganger or changling

[calm nebula]

.... I'm making a bad joke haha

[lucid iron]

well i mean i replaced chu1 and the universe is fine

probably

[brave fable]

chu1 wasn't that important

[uncut viper]

have you independently verified that all of your smol chu memories actually happened?

[obtuse wigeon]

Just make sure not to replace chu2, recursion can be a disaster

[lucid iron]

i believe my dad made up around 1/3 of all smol chu memories

in that he retell them to me every year

[calm nebula]

Dont worry chue is irrational

Replacing chu2 is fine

So is replacing chu2.7

[lucid iron]

im still kind of confused about this replaceWithClone business

does vanilla use it

[uncut viper]

seems not

it just adds an event actor with the same data as the npc you're cloning

and removes the original

[sharp crystal]

In my mod, I've a Content Patcher mod + a C# mod.
They are made to work together.
Is it possible to add a config in my content patcher mod and access to this same config in my C# mod ?

[uncut viper]

you can with reflection

[brave fable]

what i've done in that position is add the Content Patcher API in my C# component, register new dynamic tokens via the API with my C# config values, and then use those tokens in the CP component as you would any other tokens

[uncut viper]

so possible yes, easy no

i would also recommend what blueberry says, so reverse your situation

put the config in the C# part, not the CP part

[brave fable]

this does mean the config is in your C# component instead of your CP component, which is probably fine

it does mean you have the added benefit of defining your own GMCM API implementation for a very custom config menu

.. at the cost of not having the automatic CP GMCM implementation made for you

[obtuse wigeon]

That's something that can be done? that's so useful!

[brave fable]

add this file to your project and you're good to go:
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/IContentPatcherAPI.cs

[uncut viper]

and remove that one using directive ofc

[calm nebula]

Nothing a little reflection won't fix

[brave fable]

i quite liked that BC excluded the using directives from its api:
https://github.com/KhloeLeclair/StardewMods/blob/main/BetterCrafting/IBetterCrafting.cs

by contrast, GMCM says 'please delete me'
https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/blob/develop/GenericModConfigMenu/IGenericModConfigMenuApi.cs

[uncut viper]

i also removed it from SPU's API bc it also annoys me to have to do so

[calm nebula]

It occurs to me pathos could have inverted that

Made the full api inherit from this

[brave fable]

if you do choose to load your config via C# instead of in the CP component, you can load the CP API like so once you've added the interface file to your project:
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/CooksAssistant/blob/master/LoveOfCooking/Interface/Interfaces.cs#L92-L94

just ignore all the other junk in that file

[lucid iron]

moveToSoup...

i want to move to soup

[uncut viper]

thats my favourite hardcoded command

[calm nebula]

What does that do?

[uncut viper]

its for the luau

when everyone goes to taste the soup

[gentle rose]

has anyone ever tested what happens if you loaded an animated gif into a texture instead of a png (with no actual c# changes)

[uncut viper]

it sets up an advancedmove for the specific NPCs to move from where the game knows they will be to the soup bowl

[calm nebula]

It is incredibly unlikely to work

[brittle pasture]

it probably just takes the first frame

[gentle rose]

so. monogame does support gifs, but they say nothing about animated gifs, so I'm inclined to agree with selph

[calm nebula]

#making-mods-general message

The thing is, it's not monogame reading it

[brittle pasture]

software that theoretically supports GIFs but not animated GIFs can read the latter like it's a regular gif with a bunch of junk data at the end

[calm nebula]

It's skiasharp

Which

[gentle rose]

I thought texture2d was monogame

[calm nebula]

It is. But smapi reads them with skia

[uncut viper]

patch Skia

[gentle rose]

I said no c#

[uncut viper]

use IL

[gentle rose]

anyway. night everyone

[uncut viper]

dread it, run from it, the IL still arrives

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/4250853b82af17e12f4c78c9d1c01842961f6aff/src/SMAPI/Framework/ContentManagers/ModContentManager.cs#L229

[gentle rose]

not at 3am it doesn't

[uncut viper]

you'd be surprised

[gentle rose]

not THIS 3am it doesn't

[uncut viper]

you may yet dream of it

[lucid mulch]

If you patch that method directly, both speedysolutions and spritemaster/clearglasses patches that exact method

[tired matrix]

is smth wrong w this schedule?

https://smapi.io/json/none/8fbb69d630e04ce89610d0c31e452733

no idea why its not working and no log error

[tiny zealot]

did you sleep a day after adding your NPC?

[tired matrix]

yeah i tried this😔

[vernal crest]

You're trying to Load a schedule with tokens in it. That won't work. You need to Load a blank json and then put this data into an EditData patch.

A blank json is not literally blank, though. It looks like this:

{}

[tired matrix]

but i have one

[vernal crest]

Can you share your json with the blank load patch and also the schedule load patch?

[tired matrix]

its like

{ }

just this inside

[vernal crest]

Yup that's fine

[vernal crest]

Can you do this too please?

[tired matrix]

schedule load patch like in content?

[vernal crest]

Because your schedule appears to be set up to be Loaded, not used in an EditData patch

Yeah if you have it in your content.json, then share the content.json

[tired matrix]

OH

that might be it thank you!!

will edit

so i just substitute right?

[vernal crest]

Yes, you're just replacing your blank load with the schedule. Once you change to an EditData patch, the tokens will start working so your schedule should work.

Substitute what?

You will need to change it to an EditData patch.

(Which means adding an "Entries" field and putting all your keys in there.)

[tired matrix]

load blank and edditdata schedule right?

[vernal crest]

Yep

[tiny zealot]

probably a good time as well to be consistent about {{ModId}}_Xavier versus plain Xavier (use the former)

[wanton lantern]

Would this be the appropriate channel to discuss my one frustration in the modding community quickly?

I also have a question.

[vernal crest]

If you're coming in to criticise us...probably not lol

[uncut viper]

i mean do you plan on insulting people by doing so

[wanton lantern]

No not so much insulting or criticizing

I just wish there was more of male clothing 😭

[lucid mulch]

unless its a frustration with the creation of mods its probably for #modded-stardew

[vernal crest]

Oh same

[obtuse wigeon]

Me too

[vernal crest]

(Be the change! Make us male clothing!)

[uncut viper]

i find that is a common want

people make what they wanna make, though

[obtuse wigeon]

If only I had decent drawing skills

[vernal crest]

I want male clothing but I also want to never, ever, ever, go anywhere near farmer clothing sprites so it is what it is

NPC sprites are sucky enough

[wanton lantern]

I just think it's bizarre that there hasn't been a particular creator who specializes in male clothing throughout all these years.

[calm nebula]

Man, atravita's code has caused me no end of grief for years

[lucid mulch]

male fashion is mostly a meme anyway, so makes sense its all women fashion

[tiny zealot]

some hopefuls surely saw pants.png and walked away

[calm nebula]

Be the change you want to see in the world

[uncut viper]

you're looking for a niche kind of person in a niche kind of community

with a niche skillset

[calm nebula]

And a desire to deal with pants

And a desire to make recognizable fashion in about 1.5 pixels

[tender bloom]

Pants.png is mostly documented—all hundred some frames

[uncut viper]

yeah theres also just not much room to work with

very limiting

[wanton lantern]

Is it possible to find someone to commission male clothing?

[uncut viper]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[hard fern]

!comms

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !comms.

[tiny zealot]

(elizabeth summoning spell successful 😌)

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh good lord look at all those pants

[calm nebula]

Comms 😛

[uncut viper]

there may be someone on that list willing to do male clothing comms

not guaranteed though

[calm nebula]

Oh god Elizabeth do you like pants

[obtuse wigeon]

I've never actually looked at pants.png

[calm nebula]

Because i ditch mine for a skirt the second I get home

[vernal crest]

It's hard to make male clothing very distinguishable from other male clothing imo.

[hard fern]

honestly yeah

like there's but so many ways to make a pair of pants

[wanton lantern]

Thank you! ♡

[calm nebula]

Can I have skinny skinny jeans

Like cut off circulation jeans

[obtuse wigeon]

A single pixel wide

[hard fern]

i wear those baggy lounge shorts all the time...

[tired matrix]

like these?

[uncut viper]

please do not,

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[hard fern]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[calm nebula]

Or joggers

[tired matrix]

ah forgot this srry

[uncut viper]

thats two sodas shrimply

[hard fern]

[uncut viper]

twice we've jinxed now

[calm nebula]

Or can I get barrel jeans in stardew

[tired matrix]

https://smapi.io/json/none/f50b19d0fb1d4720ae55ea2a43de8f4e

[vernal crest]

Barrel jeans?

[obtuse wigeon]

stright wide legged jeans, think boot cut but that size all the way up i think

[calm nebula]

No

[vernal crest]

Not quite. You need to Target Characters/schedules/{{ModId}}_Xavier

[calm nebula]

Barrel jeans are the opposite of flares

Wide at the knee. Narrow at the hip and ankle

[tired matrix]

even w blank? okay

[uncut viper]

(also, if {{ModId}}_Xavier is the internal name of your NPC, then xavier_sleep wont cut it, i assume)

(basically re-emphasizing ichors "pick one and stick to it")

[hard fern]

why would anyone create a jean like this

[vernal crest]

Yes because the blank is just your file. It's not the asset in the game that's associated with your character. You use the blank Load to create the Characters/schedules/{{ModId}}_Xavier asset, and then the EditData patch to put actual data in there.

[tired matrix]

will {{ModId}}_Xavier_sleep cut?

[uncut viper]

as I understand it, that schedule command must be all lowercase specifically

[cobalt lance]

is there a way to put a music note in a say command for an event?

[tired matrix]

damn ill have to fix this then

[urban patrol]

also be aware that once you send NPCs to sleep they're uninteractable. you might want to define an animation as "Xavier_nap" or something instead

[vernal crest]

The internet is divided on this. I am seeing a lot more "wide at the ankle" than I am "narrow at the ankle".

[tired matrix]

will add thanks

[oblique meadow]

While I am not yet asking for help, I applaud those of you who can throw together custom events. I am struggling to wrap my head around them

[vernal crest]

Are you making good use of the tutorials on the modding wiki?

I find Events for Everyone particularly useful because it explains many of the commands in detail

[oblique meadow]

Yeah. I figured I’d read it top to bottom and reverse engineer a few first. Until I do that I’m not asking for help since I wouldn’t learn anything

But geez they’re a lot

[vernal crest]

(Also, I must rep for multilining your events. Jsonc doesn't like it so you get a lot of error messages but man it's way easier to read)

[tired matrix]

damn i18n isnt working either

do i load blank too?

[uncut viper]

tokens dont work in i18n unless you pass in the token

[tired matrix]

isnt i supposed to like

[uncut viper]

so if you're using ModId in there, read this:
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/translations.md#can-i-use-content-patcher-tokens-in-i18n-files

[oblique meadow]

I have a few plugins for notepad++ I can make it readable then reconsolidate when done

[tired matrix]

put the 118:token

and then in default just put the dialogue normally?

[uncut viper]

not if your default uses tokens in it

[vernal crest]

Why are we assuming they are using ModId in i18n? Did I miss something?

[uncut viper]

they said "either" so i assumed it was a similar issue to the Load issue,which failed bc there were tokens in it

[vernal crest]

I actually found it easier to start writing my own without reading others' events first because it was easier for me to start with, like, 5 commands max and then work my way up than it was to read a whole event, especially single line.

[vernal crest]

It'll be easier if you just show us any errors and share the relevant jsons, I think (using the json website, please!)

[uncut viper]

but my message was more meant as "tokens dont work, so if you are using them, thatd be the issue, read this"
couldve done with not splitting up my messages as im wont to do, i suppose, to make that clearer

[tired matrix]

https://smapi.io/json/none/cb41b81c888c46d693999370e51e5a09

i just did the dialogues.json like this

[vernal crest]

You are Loading your dialogue

[tired matrix]

and the defaut only the dialogues

[vernal crest]

So tokens don't work

You need to blank load the dialogue and then EditData that too

[tired matrix]

a

[hard fern]

b

[obtuse wigeon]

do tokens not work with any load or just specific ones?

[tired matrix]

editdata load the dialogue.json w thw tokens?

[uncut viper]

Load passes the file directly to the game, for all intents and purposes

Content Patcher does not touch the contents within the file whatsoever

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahhh gotcha

[uncut viper]

nor does it read them

which is why there is no changes field and whatnot and its just a straight up string to string dict and why tokens dont work

[vernal crest]

You can't EditData Load.

They are two separate actions

Do the exact same thing you did with the schedule with having two patches, but use Characters/Dialogue/{{ModId}}_Xavier}} as the Target (and obviously put your dialogue keys in the EditData patch instead of schedule keys).

[tired matrix]

ignore the load part lol

i mean editdata and then the things inside dialogue.json

[hard fern]

you'll need to load a blank first, then do editdata

[tired matrix]

let me test now

[vernal crest]

Your dialogue.json needs to change to be an EditData patch if you want to still use that file. Then you'll need three patches: a blank load (which you can combine with the schedule one by having both Targets in the same filed), an Include for the dialogue.json, and then the dialogue.json file will contain an EditData patch with the dialogue lines in it.

[tired matrix]

yes! did it!

[tired matrix]

oh i didnt know i could do this