making-mods-general

[latent mauve]

quick question, where exactly is this code located?

Which file is it in?

[light bramble]

thank you!

[hoary lake]

so i have been thinking. how hard would it be to make a machine that randomly produces a egg? is there a content patcher based framework for machines? or has that been booped into content patcher...

[tawny ore]

No extra framework needed, egg machine is doable with Content Patcher alone

[latent mauve]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Machines

[light bramble]

So uhhh, with and without the mod I made my house looks like this...

[tawny ore]

Vanilla machines already exist that produce items every day, so you can just copy them

[light bramble]

Did I break something with my mod?!

[latent mauve]

what is your mod supposed to be doing?

[slate wren]

do yall think learning C# is worth it

[light bramble]

it's an AT content pack for changing how the torch looks like >_<

[hoary lake]

gasp! an update would be to somehow boop modded eggs as well.

but baby steps...baby egg steps...

[latent mauve]

...do you have a SMAPI log and are you running with a minimal mod pack?

[tawny ore]

You can probably do modded eggs as long as they use the context tag

All eggs should be tagged with egg_item or something like that

[latent mauve]

I don't know why you would expect your farmhouse to look different when you're changing a torch, so I feel like I am missing something.

[light bramble]

I'm getting the log, but I also do have like 191 mods XD So could be a different mod?

Imma do a 50/50 method

[half tangle]

When you are making a mod it is usually best to test it using only that mod and required dependencies (and a few QoL cheat mods to help testing)

Later you can test it with other mods to check compatibilities

[hoary lake]

what would be a good simple example of a machine mod?
no fancy stuff just the bare basics?

[latent mauve]

honestly, you can look at the vanilla machine files to get what you need

the wormbins, for example, generate bait objects themselves on a timer

[stark spindle]

For stardew or in general? For stardew you can do a lot using content patcher without needing c# but it depends what you want to do.

[left nova]

I'd recommend Cornucopia - Artisan Machines, not too basic and still easy to understand.

[tawny ore]

I personally think learning any programming language is pretty useful, and it helps to learn alongside something else you enjoy so modding is a good way to learn while enjoying it

[latent mauve]

Coffee machine also seems to meet similar conditions, so you could likely copy/paste the "(BC)246" entry in Data/Machines as a CP entry for your egg machine.

and then just change the output item details

[hoary lake]

me give these a look!

[calm nebula]

Depends on what you want to dp with your life

I have a lot of regrets

But learning c# is not one of them

[stark spindle]

yeah learning VB gave me a lot of regrets 😋

I'm thinking of stopping the travelling cart from visiting. I can see a ShouldTravelingMerchantVisitToday() method I could probably override with harmony. Anyone know if there is a non harmony way to do that?

[royal stump]

I guess you could add the map property TravelingCartPosition | -999 -999 to the Forest map to have the cart spawn in the void

[stark spindle]

o that's an interesting idea

[royal stump]

I don't think there's any asset-based "don't have the cart show up at all" switch, though, just control over what the shop menu sells

[half tangle]

Some other mods also have the cart visit their locations in case that's relevant to your mod

[stark spindle]

o yeah they might have something. thanks ill try that.

[half tangle]

It may not help what you're trying to do, just thought it might be relevant to know about

[stark spindle]

yeah that should be helpful. I might not end up actually implementing this anyway. Kinda just wana know how complicated it is to see if i can get a quick win for a little extra feature Im thinking about.

[short void]

this might be a student question but does anyone know how to open the menu for the "TimeMaster" mod?

[wet heron]

hello, I am trying to create a mod for the very first time and wish to modify Deluxe Grabber Redux and make it more balanced. Give grabber capabilities by upgrading tools at clints and placing them in the grabber (so to pick up crops you would need to add a scythe, to break rocks at the quarry you would add a pickaxe ect.) I'm thinking of borrowing some code from the tractor mod for some of these functions. And create a new asset for a global grabber that can only take items from other auto grabbers. Could someone please point me in the direction of where to begin?

[gaunt orbit]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[gaunt orbit]

More specifically, though, how much programming experience do you have? You will definitely need to use c# for this, and likely harmony as well

[bitter phoenix]

Hello. I really want to make a own npc mod. I am very new to making pixel art and art in general, also sprites and coloring🫣 Is there a guide somewhere that is very detail? For example how to make a sprite? How the npc must be, the color, outline, movements, shadow? Everything pretty much.

[stark spindle]

it uses the Generic Mod Config Menu and I think you configure that through a settings menu called mod options at the bottom of the game options menu

[gaunt orbit]

[[Modding:Npcs]] assuming you've already read the get started guide

[short void]

thank you i did not catch that you need a mod config menu!

[gaunt orbit]

Hm hold on, I know there's a page for it

[bitter phoenix]

I don't think it mentioned in detail how to color

[urban patrol]

!pixelart

[ocean sail]

Where to Start With SDV-Style Pixel Art
If you've never done pixel art before, don't stress! It's easy to pick up the basics - the key is to start small, ask for feedback, and incorporate that into your work.

To start, you'll want an art program. See a list of recommended programs in the !software command.

Here's some good beginner tutorials!
http://pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11299&PID=139322
https://medium.com/pixel-grimoire/how-to-start-making-pixel-art-2d1e31a5ceab

To start off, try opening an existing portrait and changing the outfit. Start small: edit a shirt pattern, change a jacket collar, or remove a scarf and draw the clothes underneath. Ask for feedback too! The best way to improve is learning how to identify what's wrong and why, so then you can work out how to fix it.

Here's more good tips from the artist of "Celeste":
General pixel art 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/pixel-art-1-6971422
General pixel art 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/pixel-art-part-2-11225146
Outlines: https://www.patreon.com/posts/outlines-14106192
Shading: https://www.patreon.com/posts/shading-13869731
Portraits: https://www.patreon.com/posts/portraits-8693396

SDV has a few quirks to remember too:

• Colour limits: Limit the number of shades you use - stick to six including the outline.
• Hue shifts: Rather than making shadows and highlights lighter or darker versions of the base tone, SDV shifts the hue too. Eg. a base orange will have yellow highlights and red shadows. This goes for skintones too!
• Light source: SDV uses a top-right & slightly forward light source - check the vanilla art for reference.
  Most importantly, don't hesitate to ask questions and get advice from people. Have fun!

To use this command, type !pixelart.

[gaunt orbit]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data

[stark spindle]

ooo thats a cool post. havent seen that one before.

[gaunt orbit]

I can't tell you what to draw, that's not how art works, but the guide above is a good resource to give you pointers.

When you're starting out I find it's also useful to use the game files as references, or even just color-picking directly from vanilla sprites.

Eventually it'll be more intuitive, but it's like any kind of art: the only way to know what to do is to practice and experiment.

[wet heron]

I have quite a bit of experience in python, C and C+, never worked with C# though

[bitter phoenix]

Thank you

[gaunt orbit]

If you have c++ experience, c# should feel relatively comfortable. It's very similar syntactically, with the exception of mostly not using pointers

[wet heron]

Ah... I like to use pointers quite a bit, that will be a hard adjustment

Thank you for the link hopefully ill get back to you with some progress

[gaunt orbit]

It's not that everything is values, it's just that objects are always passed by reference. It does also have tools to pass references to fields and variables into method calls, and those features combined cover most of the cases where you'd use pointers in c++

You also can use actual pointers but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're interfacing with native code

[bitter phoenix]

Can't I use black as a shadow?

[visual dirge]

!software

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[wet heron]

Yah I tend to pass pointers to functions and only ever return bools that let you know if an error occurred in the code, so it will just be a bit difficult to get used to passing by reference again, but I'm sure ill figure it out

[visual dirge]

you may be unhappy to know that c# still does not have a result type 💔

[brittle pasture]

eh ref params is basically the same use case right /lh

[visual dirge]

the equivalent of this would probably be returning values via ref or out parameters, but it's bad practice to only ever do that

usually errors use exceptions (although im ngl i hate those)

but the "out parameter and return bool indicating if it succeeded" pattern is (unfortunately....) used sometimes in c#, e.g. TryGetValue

curse you c# for not having sum types

[wet heron]

Half of what you said is going over my head, I guess I'll need to learn C# proper before continuing

[stark spindle]

youll probably just pick it up by playing with it and looking at some examples in other mods

[visual dirge]

some of what i said is me lamenting that c# is missing features present in other languages, so don't worry too much about that

a c# programmer isn't expected to know what a sum type or result type is

[brittle pasture]

2% of my posts in this channel is wishing for Rust features in C#

[gentle rose]

the “I use rust btw” people are here, everyone hide

[gaunt orbit]

Take a look at out and ref parameters, that's actually a common pattern in c# too

[sand timber]

What exactly is Rust used for?

[iron ridge]

it's used like c++ but when you get extra money and arent sure what to do with it so you rewrite the c++ into rust

or for "memory safety" (idk what that is sounds unnecessary)

[half tangle]

It's also worth just spending time looking around your decompile of the game's code to see what does what and how to familiarize yourself with relevant kinds of (mostly) working C# code

[gaunt orbit]

I don't think it's unfortunate. Exceptions are computationally expensive, and are supposed to only be used for something unexpected happening.

TryGetValue is what you use when you expect the entry to sometimes not exist.

The indexer on the other hand does throw an exception if the entry doesn't exist, so you would only use it when it is supposed to exist. If it throws an exception, then you know your assumption is wrong and your program isn't built correctly.

[visual dirge]

i mean it's unfortunate because i'd much rather they used an option/maybe type (not nullable types bc that shit is broken w generics)

[gaunt orbit]

Nullable types are fine?
Would be nice to have discriminated unions though

[visual dirge]

nullable types don't work with generics unless the generic is bound on either struct or class, for really stupid reasons

[gaunt orbit]

Nullables work fine with generics as long as you have nullable enabled and use type constraints properly

[visual dirge]

because T? is not a type its a lint

[gaunt orbit]

Well yes, because it's a compile-time construct

[visual dirge]

back in my day types were compile-time constructs

[visual dirge]

the problem is that if T : struct then T? is System.Nullable<T>, but if T : class then T? is T

[gaunt orbit]

I'm aware, but I don't see how that's a problem if you're using proper type constraints

[visual dirge]

which means if you don't constrain T on either struct or class, it's just broken and doesn't work properly

[gaunt orbit]

You can use notnull

[visual dirge]

it isn't possible to return null as T? from a function where T is not constrained on either struct or class, so it wouldn't be possible to implement TryGetValue as returning T?

[wet heron]

lol, I'm sorry for starting this argument

[stark spindle]

Im enjoying it. I got popcorn and everything.

[blissful panther]

(#programmers-off-topic has cooled off a bit now. )

[calm nebula]

I miss union types too

Also absolutely miss result

Every few years a modder tries to write Result<T> and runs into the null constraint problem

Hey Pathos if you implement Result 😛

[round timber]

waow atra is shiny

fully retired cheeto

[calm nebula]

At last, right?

[lucid iron]

Wow fancy

[gaunt orbit]

Clearly I've been slacking and I need to stop touching grass and weld myself to the stardew server /jk

[proud wyvern]

Wow atra is level 2000?

[proud wyvern]

StructResult and ObjectResult /s

[gaunt orbit]

You joke but there is Tuple and ValueTuple

[visual dirge]

struct Result<T, E>
{
    T ok;
    E err;
    bool isOk;
}

[calm nebula]

Now try any amount of null or not null constraints on T

[calm nebula]

That's different. Tuple itself is a reference type.

[visual dirge]

why do that

[light bramble]

Ok I have a new issue with my AT pack i'm making, I don't know how to get the flame to change with the torch Do I need to also include a change for the flames themselves????

The changed torch also just weirdly draws on top of my character???

[royal stump]

unless AT has specific documentation for torches, I'd assume it isn't able to change their unique effects

[lucid iron]

The flames is a cursors thing pretty sure

Although, what if u make it a glowing rug item

[light bramble]

Well that also explains why the creator of the firefly torch mod hasn't made an AT version...

[brittle pasture]

yes it's in cursors, though I'm surprised AT doesnt also handroll that part already

[lucid iron]

So is it important to u that the light is from a torch item?

If yes the cp version texture replace is easiest

[light bramble]

welp. That puts a ruffle in my plans lol

oh well.

[lucid iron]

If it's not important to specifically have "torch" then u can use ff or mmap to make a rug with a light source

[gaunt orbit]

I actually didn't know that. When would you even use that instead of a ValueTuple

[floral stratus]

Hey, all! Promised I'd keep you updated.
I am 10 letters deep into my "Letters from an old Joja cowworker" mod so far.
One complication. I ran across a similar mod while I was scrolling nexus. My Support Network™️ tells me to go ahead and it's fine to have 2 mods that have the same basis, but I'm not sure.

[uncut viper]

!twocakes

[ocean sail]

If you discover that someone has made or is making a mod with a similar concept to yours, don't stress! Our community promotes the idea of "two cakes", where two versions of the same idea can peacefully co-exist. Your mod will have your own unique stamp on it that makes it special.

To use this command, type !twocakes.

[uncut viper]

im sure the farmer had more than one coworker

[floral stratus]

I'm planning on having tons of references to other expansion mods, such as the friend Reading the new book by Two-Time Award Winning Author Rodney O'Brien. Does anybody have recs on expansions I can reference?

[floral stratus]

Thank you. That makes a lot of sense.

[calm nebula]

Never

It's like how there is semaphore and semaphore slim

Microsoft wrote one. Realized their mistake

Then wrote it again but had to keep the old one for backwards compat

[gaunt orbit]

Aaaah yeah that makes sense

[ivory plume]

I look away for two hours and the server turns into GeoCities.

[lusty sail]

It’s reminding me of custom titles and name color configurations in MUDs/MUSHes…

Feels very full circle

[rough lintel]

why are you a gradient. i’m scared.

[calm nebula]

I gave up access to the repo to be a gradient

[rough lintel]

wtf is “Local Legend”

[tawny ore]

Level 2000

#bulletin-board

[rough lintel]

what the flippy

[tawny ore]

It means this Discord is your second first residence

[gaunt orbit]

Atra how did you get level 2000 already, you've been here less time than I have

[rough lintel]

1617. ive got like 383 more levels to go

still in the top 50 server rank tho 🫡 slay

[calm nebula]

Oops

Byeeeeeee

[gaunt orbit]

I'm only 736

[tawny ore]

I'm even less, and I've been active since 2020

So it's looking like 5-10 years before I reach those levels

[uncut viper]

i hope i never hit 2000 bc i like the gradient a lot less than purple

[rough lintel]

orange folks should get a gradient… unfair …

my cool blurple is hiding…

[rough lintel]

took me chatting relentlessly at the age of 18 to now to be where im at (minus two years bc i left the discord)

i am currently 25 :’)

[tawny ore]

I'm probably about as chatty as I'll ever be, which isn't that much tbh

[gaunt orbit]

I like the purple but I want people to know they can talk to me about mod stuff

[tawny ore]

I like the blurple so much that once I hit 2000 I'll abandon all my mods and give up the modding role (just to obtain it)

[royal stump]

I honestly never expected to talk enough to get the modder role, but I'm level 571 or something these days
(and would prefer purple but not enough to fiddle with it) (and the puffer icon is good)

[uncut viper]

i also thought when i joined like "man... im gonna have to talk So Much to get the modder role i hate talking in big discords"
now here i am a year and 761 levels later and i still dont have the damn role

[calm nebula]

Technically you don't have to abandon your mods

Just the role

[idle lantern]

Hi! I'm on the last stretch of making this npc. I've finally gotten the jsons linked correctly so that it reads his marriage schedule. However, when he tries to leave the FarmHouse to go to, say, the beach- he immediately disappears once he hits the farmhouse warp. I'll find him stuck right next to the warp from the Farm to the bus pathway. Here's his schedule, in case anyone might have any insight on how to fix it

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c5b9d1fb63d048d9bc325365b4f6ac86

I'm wondering if my use of the FarmHouse as places to go is causing it. I've checked a couple npcs from different mods (like Ridgeside, EAst Scarp, Always Raining, and 'Erwin'), and none of them their NPCs staying on the farm or in the farmhouse during the entries they have

[gaunt orbit]

Correct, the farm and farmhouse are unnavigable. Spouses have special handling

[idle lantern]

thank you 🙂

[gaunt orbit]

You could create an npc-only warp directly from the bus stop into the farmhouse, but that will break if anyone uses a custom interior

[idle lantern]

Ehh, I'll just figure out where else to send him 😄

[visual dirge]

why are monorepos so popular with modding (and stardew modding specifically)

i usually only put stuff in the same repo if it all needs to be versioned together

[vital dew]

alright. where is the sprite sheet for it.

[gaunt orbit]

Not sure

[vital dew]

energy tonic im gonna kill you

[rough lintel]

u gotta do patch mode replace and not overlay lol

[vital dew]

heres the problem: i dont know which mod the sprite's coming from LMAO

can i do a patch summary or somethin to find that out? i forgor

[rigid oriole]

Crowded github make me sad

[rough lintel]

crowded github make me sad too

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6431 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1385026873838534658)

[ivory plume]

Monorepos make it easy to share code between mods without needing separate DLLs, make changes and updates across all your mods at once (e.g. update the mod build package in one commit instead of two dozen commits to different repos), etc. When you have a lot of mods to update, it's definitely easier to update multiple mods at once than to commit separate commits for each change to each separate repo.

[ocean sail]

@ivory plume You leveled up to Local Legend. That's level 2000! You really have been talking a lot, haven't you? Thanks for being a part of this community. Here's a pretty gradient color as a token of our appreciation.

[brittle pasture]

monorepos are overhated tbh

[visual dirge]

waow

[rigid oriole]

Omg pathos

[brittle pasture]

if you know basic commit hygiene it's more convenient than making a repo for every random 5 line C# mod

[visual dirge]

fair, and the code sharing stuff makes sense -- ig it's just weird to me to have multiple versioned projects in the same repo

[rigid oriole]

My bad i thought that'd be only visible to me lol

[visual dirge]

it's unfortunate for stuff like issues and prs though

[brittle pasture]

that's where tagging comes in

[gaunt orbit]

I share code the old-fashioned way, by copying the cs file. :P

Fr though there's not much overlap for utility code between mods for me

[ivory plume]

It can be helpful for PRs in some cases. For example, translators often submit translations for multiple mods at once instead of needing to submit a separate PR for each mod. But it's common to just prefix the title with [Mod Name] if they're for a specific mod.

[visual dirge]

idk, in my experience it's hard enough to get people to provide any information whatsoever when they open an issue, adding an extra step ("which mod are you even talking about") feels like it would cause problems

[rough lintel]

insane level up message

[gaunt orbit]

I only ever get bug reports on nexus, assuming I get them at all

[brittle pasture]

usually it takes 5 seconds to find out what mod they are talking about

[gaunt orbit]

The day I get an issue report on github I will rejoice

[rough lintel]

LOL

[brittle pasture]

if not, well, tbh that's not a useful report in the first place

[visual dirge]

biggest mod i maintain (subnautica terrain patcher) specifically does not have a nexus page because it's important enough that people will download it anyways and fuck nexus

[gaunt orbit]

About 1/5 of the time people don't even tell me when there's bugs, they just complain about it in discord and I find out by searching mod names two weeks later

[visual dirge]

but i have gotten github issues titled like "mod doest work" with no description so. yeah

[visual dirge]

so true lmfao. usually i find out about bugs by searching the subnautica modding discord for the word "terrain" and seeing people talk about a bug after i already fixed it

[gaunt orbit]

Well, you can host sdv mods offsite, but if you do, nobody will know they exist

[visual dirge]

yea but if a popular framework mod did that itd be fine

(terrain patcher is a popular "framework" mod)

[gaunt orbit]

True.

[visual dirge]

and seriously fuck nexus

[gaunt orbit]

With stardew, though, there's very few frameworks that are used by more than a handful of mods.

There's things I don't care for about nexus but github is the only better alternative, and as previously mentioned you don't get user discovery there

What I really want is something like modrinth

[lucid iron]

I don't hate monorepos but how else will I inflate my repo count

[visual dirge]

yea fair. terrain patcher is only used by a handful of mods, but they're mostly some big insane mods that lots of people use, so it works out the same

[lucid iron]

It is also nice to just not clone stuff im not touching for few months

[visual dirge]

sooo true. its also not really possible to use a monorepo without hosting the mod somewhere else (nexus) too

[gaunt orbit]

I should make a website for my mods

[visual dirge]

since smapi can't update from monorepos and releases don't work great w them anyways

[lucid iron]

Maybe the GitHub update key could be improved for usage with monorepos

Some kinda tag prefix based thing?

[idle lantern]

Que es 'monorepo'?

[gaunt orbit]

Did smapi ever add that custom update key thing?

[gaunt orbit]

Multiple projects in a single git repository

[lucid iron]

It exists and is used by basically nothing

[idle lantern]

ty!

[gaunt orbit]

Hell yeah I'm gonna use that to self-host my mods

[visual dirge]

do people even use releases w monorepos?

[lucid iron]

Unclear

I have a monorepo from when i started last year

But if i have to update those mods again im splitting them

[visual dirge]

if my definition of a monorepo is "repo containing multiple projects that are independently versioned" then monorepos by definition wouldn't work well with github's releases system

since github releases assumes one single versioned project

[lucid iron]

Yeah

Although, I do host content packs in same repo as the framework they r for

I just don't make releases cus u can just clone y'know

[idle lantern]

hooray! Location change fixed it, ty

[visual dirge]

me when i make a mod that has a c# component and a json component

[calm nebula]

Just don't release mods

This is how it works right

[lucid iron]

Are you enjoying your colored retirement

[gaunt orbit]

Way ahead of you

[calm nebula]

I'm sorry I got purchased by Mcdonald Douglas I'm evil now

[visual dirge]

is it weird to release a mod on github but hold off on publishing it on nexus until its got more features

[calm nebula]

It's great! FiRE is so much easier to reach on discord

[lucid iron]

No that's just early access for cool ppl

[calm nebula]

No. But people usually call those "betas"

[lucid iron]

Average user is tragically bad at downloading a mod release from github though

The ui lacks big highlighted Download btn

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6432 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1385040055793488054)

[visual dirge]

perhaps i should have versioned it as 0 instead of 1 but whatever i dont think thats necessary

[royal stump]

iirc some people use markdown in the release to add a giant download button

[brittle pasture]

favorite screenshot

[lucid iron]

It's ok ur official release can be 2.0.0

[pseudo vault]

It's funnier when they don't put it into releases and make you download it from the code button.

[visual dirge]

i provide instructions with a link and everything in the readme but i am aware they are unable to read

[visual dirge]

publishing on nexus is a ..1 release at best 🙄

[lucid iron]

I think this server counts gh only releases for orang role if you want that

Dunno how the wiki template handles it tho

[gaunt orbit]

No I did that

[gaunt orbit]

Where exe smelly nerds

[visual dirge]

i dont have lebrl 25 or whatever. also i did publish one of my mods to nexus when i ran out of ideas for features to add

[lucid iron]

Ah yes the tree mod

[vapid oak]

(@calm nebula you've been un-timed out, the automod thought you were spamming, sorry!)

[lucid iron]

It's better than mine for dealing with the debris draw

[calm nebula]

(No worries!) I thought it was funny

[visual dirge]

yea. pink cherry trees in the greenhouse and fixing the leaves looking stupid

[royal stump]

seems fine, everything but Discord ID can be blank & there're github/forum templates (though not curse, apparently)
|sample mod 1 = {{github|
|author url = {{Chucklefish|

[lucid iron]

Chucklefish

Let's move all our mods back there

[royal stump]

for people who only do SDV 1.0 mods or unofficials

[lucid iron]

It'll be great trust

[royal stump]

I never actually tried dling anything from that thing, but it did exist

[pseudo vault]

I am back with my noob questions. Does this look fine with the Plantable location rules?

[brittle pasture]

greenhouse is already an indoor location, you dont need the first condition

otherwise looks good

[calm nebula]

Are plant-based location rules in data/crops?

[pseudo vault]

Oh no

Did I mess it up?

[calm nebula]

They might be. I don't know

[brittle pasture]

yes it is, like the cactus's indoors or island only rules

[pseudo vault]

I've never before used Location rules so i don't either

[pseudo vault]

Okay. Thanks.

So uh, why is there an Exclamation mark on the second condition?

It was there since I got it from the cactus seed rule

[brittle pasture]

! means not

[royal stump]

starting any game state query ("condition" thing) with ! means "not", as in "not this location name"

[pseudo vault]

I am bad at reading confirmed. I somehow missed that if it was in the guides.

[brittle pasture]

your condition means "if outdoor location and NOT greenhouse then Deny planting"

[pseudo vault]

My first time seeing that. Haven't really used much json.

[royal stump]

it's pretty specific to GSQs, though other program-related stuff does use ! for "not" or "opposite" in some contexts
there's info about those fields here if it helps, though the explanations can be a little technical
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries

[pseudo vault]

Yeah I might not be able to understand them, haha...

[royal stump]

basically just check the list for whichever query seems right, and if you want the exact opposite, add ! to the start
like SEASON Spring (it's spring) and !SEASON Spring (it's not spring) in the first paragraph

sometimes you can just write it another way, like SEASON Summer Fall Winter, but it's there if needed

[pseudo vault]

Oh, right... Is it okay to give crops the Forage category? I did not know what else to use for Mushrooms

[royal stump]

I think that'll make them give foraging experience when harvested, but I'm not aware of any other side effects

[pseudo vault]

That will be fine...

[brittle pasture]

IIRC experience is purely based on harvest item cost, and always farming

unless it's one of the special hardcoded forage seeds

[royal stump]

ah, right, crops don't count as normal (forage) objects, so the code I was thinking of probably won't apply

[lucid iron]

You can use spacecore to give them special category

I also recommend using whatever mushroom_item context tags cornucopia/wag/etc uses

[pseudo vault]

I'll try

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6434 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1385024628702974124)

[frosty hull]

woo, how do you make name like rainblow?

[lucid iron]

its a server role, new discord feature

your own server might have this feature? not sure how they are rolling it out

[frosty hull]

ah thanks, i will check it

[calm nebula]

I used to be helpful but then I got purchased by McConnell Douglas

[lucid iron]

atra is smd real

[lucid mulch]

be the top33 people that have talked in the server and you would be eligible for it

[rough lintel]

yip

im almost there

[lucid mulch]

I just need to 5.55x the amount of life time messages I've sent and I'm there

[pseudo vault]

Nitro exclusive

[lucid iron]

like u need boosts?

[tender bloom]

technically it's not limited to 33, presumably more will get it over time?

[pseudo vault]

yeah

[tender bloom]

the announcement sounded like it's tied to boosts

[lucid mulch]

its not limited to top33, its just only 33 people are >= level 2000 in this server

the discord perk once purchased (and maintained every month) can be put on as many roles you like with unlimited amounts of people in them

[pseudo vault]

On another note, Json and Content patcher crops are like night and day

Look how clean this looks...

and then there is this monstrosity

[uncut viper]

(i prefer the CP version by far)

[pseudo vault]

Well, I like my stuff clean, but I get why Content patcher is better

[lucid mulch]

(the crop and seed can be in the same EditData entry for Data/Objects)

oh they are both seeds, same point though

[pseudo vault]

Same? huh?

[uncut viper]

you dont need two separate EditData patches

[pseudo vault]

The mod I used as a helping base did not have in the same

[uncut viper]

you should trust the CP documentation as the source of truth before another mod

[lucid iron]

cp is nice cus it's free form

[lucid mulch]

and you can emulate the json assets form mostly (but not completely) using localtokens

[lucid iron]

you can arrange stuff however you like really

[twin wadi]

im bored but im too lazy to make the next event ;-; i guess im going to be working on dialogue then and push events for later lol

[pseudo vault]

I am sorry but I am not able to really understand the tutorials

[lucid iron]

also why is your format 2.2.0

[pseudo vault]

Fixing it... forgot to

Thanks for reminding me

[uncut viper]

which is fine, im not saying dont use mods to help if you need to, just dont use them as a basis for determining what you can and cannot do if you dont know and havent looked at the docs

[twin wadi]

this is pretty helpful, if documentation is a bit difficult to navigate https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg

[uncut viper]

since unless people are working from a template its unlikely any two mods you choose will be structured the same

as chu says its very freeform

[pseudo vault]

I can read the docs but I don't really seem to understand them.

[inner harbor]

I was close but I think I"ve lost traction now. Also forgot how to check the ranking.

[lucid iron]

for cp what you gotta understand is like

what is a dict and what is a list and when does cp make you represent a list as a dict for reasons™

[twin wadi]

i think you check the rankings here https://stardew.chat/leaderboard.php?tab=monthly

[lucid iron]

after that the structure follows logically

[tender bloom]

yeah, it's also /lb in #governors-mansion

[pseudo vault]

Yeah I tried using this website. But as you can see I always came back here to ask others haha...

[tender bloom]

you're level 1530, lemurkat

[inner harbor]

I'm almost top 50

[tender bloom]

just assassinate blueb /s

[pseudo vault]

I just seem to have incredible issues using that stuff to learn. But when others explain it, I understand it better

Not sure what you call this...

[inner harbor]

huh / lvl said i was number 51

[lucid iron]

thats alright we have this channel for a reason

[tender bloom]

website said #51 for me too

[lucid iron]

if ya dont know just ask

[inner harbor]

oh that's this week

I'm 51 of all time

you're number 12 atra

[tender bloom]

i'm still like 200 levels away from 2000

[inner harbor]

Miphas, I am coming for your position 😠

[uncut viper]

#60 this week, #33 this month im kind of surprised im that high up to be honest

[inner harbor]

I signed up for a course in Unity and C#. IT's 14 hours. I wonder how much I can learn in 14 hours. Or how much I can learn in general, given my memory is mush.

[tender bloom]

sometimes building intuition is what you are "learning" secretly

sure you might not remember the exact syntax, but if you can remember the keywords you can find your way back

[twin wadi]

also @pseudo vault this is pretty helpful for adding items such as produce and even crops and seeds. it's really well-explained though it's made for adding fish. you can just skip fish-specific parts. from my experience the adding a crop tutorial (which you might be using) is outdated and hard to understand

fish tutorial by tiakall: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_a_New_Fish

[inner harbor]

I can then poke through the C# code and see what I can understand

[calm nebula]

Learning to communicate with emojis only as we speak

[lucid iron]

although i would say "watch out for unity specific things" it's still fun to just make a usable thing

[tender bloom]

hopefully it's not 14 hours in a row!!

[inner harbor]

its 7 weeks of 2 hours in the evenings

[lucid iron]

lemur C# era

[tender bloom]

that sounds pretty neat!

[inner harbor]

I imagine there may be homework. They probably won't make us write Stardew mods though, sadly.

[pseudo vault]

I'll add that to my notes thanks

oops

[tender bloom]

you could try to turn the homework into stardew

[pseudo vault]

forgot to disable ping

[twin wadi]

its ok, you can ping me haha

[pseudo vault]

you also read my mind

[inner harbor]

Also I Think I momentarily got my MathPersons confused and muddled Elizabeth with atra. Oops.

[pseudo vault]

I still have a ton of stuff to do. (besides porting my Json crops and trees to Content Patcher)

[tender bloom]

it's ok, from today onwards you can remember atra has the cooler colors XD

[inner harbor]

Ah well, I may not have cool colors here, but I do on my server 🙂

[twin wadi]

oh wow your art is really good!

[calm nebula]

You'll get them eventually right?

[tender bloom]

only if i talk enough!

[calm nebula]

Don't leave me alone in my rainbow

[pseudo vault]

NOOOOO

I did not make it. It's from HM DS

Sorry for the confusion

[twin wadi]

ur good, sorry for misunderstanding!

[pseudo vault]

I showed it to show the progress of what is left

I am kinda sad I can't do Rune Factory crops.

[lucid iron]

how come

[pseudo vault]

They aren't all within the 16 limit

[lucid iron]

giant crop

these look very hd tho

[pseudo vault]

Oh the cabbage for example is like 20

[pseudo vault]

Kinda funny since it's the 3ds

But that just means 3ds aged well

[lucid iron]

its more about the style i mean

[pseudo vault]

oh

[lucid iron]

but yea u can do it if u want, just need scale up 2

[pseudo vault]

I am not sure what that means

You are able to change the dimensions for crops?

(This Seed bag for example is 24x24)

[fathom hound]

Don't you need spacecore for that or am I mistaken

[pseudo vault]

I don't know

[lucid iron]

so you know how i was talking about "sdv draws at 4x scale"

there's various mods that let you make sdv draw at 1x scale

scale up 2 is one, spacecore is one

these would let you fit higher res textures if u want

[lucid mulch]

I cant imagine playing that zoomed out on a 4k display

I'm already effectively 2x scale relative to a 1080p display

[inner harbor]

Well if i keep on talking, yes!

(If that's how it's based)

[fierce vault]

Oh, what’s this?? Your role has been upgraded into something I’ve never seen!

congratulations

[pseudo vault]

Meantime me with my 1080 monitor

[fathom hound]

tysm!

[pseudo vault]

So more questions, is there a tutorial on making custom litter as well?

Like the Grass and Branches and stones from SV

[twin wadi]

you mean debris? im not sure lemme search around

[pseudo vault]

Oh.

I thought it's called Litter

[lucid iron]

so usually ppl call it debris, but no i dont really think u can easily make it

[fierce vault]

So, I’m curious. What is that role given for?

[tiny zealot]

#bulletin-board

[fierce vault]

Thanks

[pseudo vault]

Rip, I'll freeze the Harvest Moon DS Debris for an unknown amount of time then.

[lucid iron]

i think u can make them into resource nodes via item extensions tho

[lucid mulch]

I think ftm can at least emulate debris

[twin wadi]

its like top 10 weekly most xp gained

[lucid iron]

or just forage

[pseudo vault]

I guess it is sort of forage?

in HM DS you CAN pick it up

[twin wadi]

you can do retextures of existing debris pretty easily if that's what you're looking to do, but new custom debris is difficult

[fierce vault]

thanks

[pseudo vault]

Yeah was gonna add new debris

[rough lintel]

can just add new forage and give it a different category name to cosplay debris ╮(￣▽￣””)╭

[uncut viper]

you cant pick up or gain exp from normal debris though

(gain exp by picking it up*)

[pseudo vault]

Yeaaaah but it's also kinda useless because it wouldn't give anything and selling it is not gonna help lol

[pseudo vault]

True as well

Can't simulate HM DS Debris

[twin wadi]

im not sure if this is easy, havent looked into it yet, but maybe you can make custom rock nodes?

idk how that's done though

[pseudo vault]

Yeah, that sounds like the most plausible option...

[lucid iron]

thats item extensions nodes yep

[pseudo vault]

I should probably not do that until I am done with the other stuff that's easy™

[twin wadi]

haha relateable

[pseudo vault]

debris will probably be as hard as these Mining items.

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/21986

just make dis

[rough lintel]

omfg the wonderfuls

[lucid iron]

u will need to draw ore tho

[pseudo vault]

I could just use the Mining rocks from HM DS. It was random what they give afterall.

[lucid iron]

ye sure

[pseudo vault]

But uh... most of these items are also only obtained by tilling in the Mines

These ones to be specific

Don't ask me how there is suncream in the ground

Debris and Mining will be on the end of the list for sure

Does stardew Valley have an accessory that regens your stamina with time?

[twin wadi]

idk over time

there is an accessory that increases max energy i believe

[pseudo vault]

Harvest Moon DS has these accessories

[rough lintel]

yes

one of the bangles or earrings

[pseudo vault]

I have never found one. Are they new to 1.6?

[idle lantern]

"ConfigSchema":
{
"Tree Fertilizer Cost":
{
"AllowValues": "true, false",
"Default": "50",
"AllowBlank": true,
"Description": "Adjust the price of Tree Fertilizer, sold by Pierre."
}
},

Instead of AllowValues true false, what do I put in there to allow someone to type in a value?

[rough lintel]

oh shit you said stardew valley

i thought you said harvest moon lmfao

[idle lantern]

I've had nostalgia punches all day because of you. I loved that game so much.

[pseudo vault]

For the moment it will be a private mod for multiple reasons like testing etc. (Also because I still don't have the motivation to port the Json versions to Content P)

I am surprised no one actually made Harvest Moon DS crops yet.

[rough lintel]

most of the crops exist in sdv, and people have made turnip mods already

so. they definitely have

[pseudo vault]

They are technically different

[rough lintel]

the forage however, people have not made

[pseudo vault]

I more mean a straight port

[uncut viper]

(tfw you publish a mod with the wrong primary image and now you need to wait for nexus cdn to catch up to the fact that you changed it )

[rough lintel]

what exactly does “straight port” mean here

[tiny zealot]

i think you are discovering that the games are not as similar as they appear, and that this involves a lot of thought and effort

[pseudo vault]

For example the Price, sprites how many days and when they grow

[rough lintel]

because if you straight ported those crops theyd end up being out of place. hmds has the crop leveling system that drastically increases the price

the sprites dont match sdv at all

the growth days are also constrained to a different date system in hmds

because you dont have to sleep

and the seasons are 30 days

or something like that

[pseudo vault]

I like the nostalgia is probably why I want them.

[rough lintel]

so when you make stuff for sdv, you have to scale it differently. thats just what you have to do

if you want it exact, just go play hmds lol

[lucid iron]

i think the art stuff is like ymmv

some ppl want wildly different styles in sdv

[rough lintel]

i play hmds cute when sdv doesnt scratch the nostalgia itch

[lucid iron]

but the balance is definitely a problem cus

avg person will go years without seeing ur crops

[pseudo vault]

Yeah, I know. I don't really care much about downloads and such. I just like doing them.

[lucid iron]

if thats the goal then have fun and go wild

[rough lintel]

^

if youre planning to publish though, you open yourself up to critique

[pseudo vault]

Yeah. I'll accept it and apologize if neccessary

[lucid iron]

eh no need for that

its a thing u made and are sharing for free

[rough lintel]

true

but i mostly meant stuff abt balance / how it fits in the game / yadda yadda

people are entitled on the internet lmao

[lucid iron]

theres vague worry about copy right stuff but all the pokemon mods are fine so

[uncut viper]

(if you disable comments no one can critique you)

[rough lintel]

no need to apologize to anyone

[pseudo vault]

I used so many small NPC mods, I think I don't have a taste for making it fit the game lol

[tiny zealot]

until nintendo hears about it, anyway

[twin wadi]

plus it's not for commericial use since mods are free, i think it shouuuld be ok

[uncut viper]

definitely do not assume copyright violation is okay just bc its free

[tiny zealot]

commercial use or not does not matter

[pseudo vault]

I never want money from my mods

[calm nebula]

so which junimo looks best in the new green?

[uncut viper]

copyright violation is never legally allowed, full stop. whether the company cares enough is another matter

[tiny zealot]

being in a small enough niche that you are beneath nintendo's radar, now that matters

[rough lintel]

pathos

[uncut viper]

(also not to interrupt, but would a mod author like to showcase my mod for me)

[rough lintel]

nintendo has nothing to do w the harvest moon thing thankfully

[calm nebula]

I can't anymore

[rough lintel]

marvelous is chill i like them

[calm nebula]

😛

[uncut viper]

can you ask for the role back to showcase my mod for me please? thanks

[rough lintel]

oh shit wait i can showcase

[calm nebula]

You can ask for the role yourself

[uncut viper]

i cant ask for the role myself bc uhhhhhhhhh hey look over there

[calm nebula]

I'm enjoying my retirement

[rough lintel]

give me the post ill showcase for u

[twin wadi]

welp sorry ;-; i dont really know about copyright stuff, i thought since it's basically fanwork itd be ok like fanart but if its not, good to know

[uncut viper]

if you could preface it with "New mod from @uncut viper!" (make sure u tag the Right Person) and then add this after it thatd be perf

[Soundboard](https://nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/34968) is now released!

This mod adds a menu you can open to display every audio cue in the game for you to listen to. It'll tell you how long an audio cue is, whether or not it loops, and even whether or not the audio is modded in any way! You can force it to _only_ play vanilla, unmodified audio as well, even if you have a mod installed that alters the audio in question. Perfect for mod authors searching for the right audio for their mods :SDVpuffersalute:

(dont put it in a code block obv thats just for ease of copy pasting)

[calm nebula]

That's so awesome!!!!

[idle lantern]

you're a genius

The amount of times I listened to the soundtrack on Youtube, and then matched it to the wiki

[uncut viper]

(by the way, does one of the other various stardew discords have a bot that auto posts new mods it detects or something, cuz i got a comment so fast on that that i used the comment notification to realize that nexus had even finished publishing it)

[tiny zealot]

(there is an exception called Fair Use (US)/Fair Dealing (UK/crown/others), but it's not obvious even to experts whether it will be considered to apply in any given case, so try not to rely on it)

[rough lintel]

New mod from @uncut viper !!!

Soundboard is now released!

This mod adds a menu you can open to display every audio cue in the game for you to listen to. It'll tell you how long an audio cue is, whether or not it loops, and even whether or not the audio is modded in any way! You can force it to only play vanilla, unmodified audio as well, even if you have a mod installed that alters the audio in question. Perfect for mod authors searching for the right audio for their mods

jajaaaan

done

[uncut viper]

thank you very much lani

[rough lintel]

of course

[lucid iron]

musicks

[rough lintel]

wait actually im dling this i need this

LMAO

[tiny zealot]

i know, right? what a good idea!

i'm glad someone thought of it

[uncut viper]

all me (/j /j /j thank ichor for giving me the idea)

[rough lintel]

so true 🥰

[uncut viper]

(and focustense for stardewui theres 0 chance id ever make this without stardewui)

[idle lantern]

Do I need to create a dynamic token for this config schema to work?

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/882b3d61a2e04dc29190710d210f78f0

[lucid iron]

by defining it in the config schema, you get the token Tree Fertilizer Cost

i recommend not putting spaces in there but it'll work

[lucid mulch]

config already is a token, just use {{Tree Fertilizer Cost}} though should avoid spaces iirc

[idle lantern]

tyty guys

hm.

if it's set to 50, it shows 100. if set to 100, it shows 200. Is that him marking up?

[uncut viper]

shops have a 2x markup

[idle lantern]

ty!

[uncut viper]

pierre has a 2x on the 2x

you can set the price directly in the shop entry if you;d like

otherwise it calculates from the Data/Objects price

[idle lantern]

Let me try that

I wish I remembered where I saw in CA's coding that he used as a fraction for something

[faint ingot]

so I tried ending an event with "end invisibleWarpOut Wizard", but when I re-enter the wizard's tower, he's still there and visible

[idle lantern]

do you have to specify where he warps to?

you can also warp him to -100 -100 or something at the end of the event. Or are you trying to have him turn invisible in the tower after the event?

[faint ingot]

i want him to be invisible after the event is over

uhhh wait... nevermind I'm an idiot

I seem to have updated without updating

[idle lantern]

🙂

[idle lantern]

Is there a way to put text underneath this?

[vernal crest]

No, use the i18n to put a description when a player hovers over it

[idle lantern]

Ty!

[vernal crest]

I'd link you to the CP docs page for how to do that but either GitHub or my internet is moving very slowly

Finally: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/config.md#translations

[idle lantern]

I can find it. I had the page open for trying to edit the PriceModifier, and gave up

[vernal crest]

(It's different to the rest of i18n)

[boreal belfry]

Hello, I have a requirements etiquette question. I am working to convert More Golfish from naver, https://www.postype.com/@kayainsdv/post/10331164 which appears to be an update of an even older mod that has since been deleted. The naver page doesn't seem to list any permissions the way nexus does, so I'm a bit lost on what would be my step one in finding out?

[vernal crest]

If there aren't permissions listed, it's all rights reserved and you aren't allowed to share any of it at all.

[boreal belfry]

awesome, thank you!

[vernal crest]

You can always try contacting them for permission though! If they say yes, just make sure you provide that evidence when you post yours.

[idle lantern]

This might be different for education: I had a poster I wanted to photocopy, but the business had gone out of business 30 years ago. The copyright holder no longer lived at that building, and there was no follow-up coontact information for the business. I was able to copy it, after documenting fair-play attempts to try and contact the original owner. The process had been outlined on one of the us government copyright pages - but it may have been very specific to educational use

[vernal crest]

Yup we are not covered by any laws allowing limited use for education

[idle lantern]

I miss that poster. I gave it away, and lost the thumb drive that I have the 4x6' image on

I had*

[pseudo vault]

Question about Recipes. How would you guys make them obtainable?

I feel like the Cooking channel would be a bad idea for 134 recipes. (Cheesus!)

[lucid iron]

shop is the easy way

[vernal crest]

If you're asking about the possible ways: present at start, added from event, added from dialogue, bought from shop, sent via mail, added by trigger action

[pseudo vault]

Hmmm... What would be the best way to simulate it from Hm DS... in HM DS you need to figure them out yourself.

[calm quiver]

So I’ve got crops, forage-ables almost done, smelting stuff done. Do you all think I should release the texture pack in versions? Or just wait for a completely finished pack

[pseudo vault]

It's up to you. Both options sound good.

[calm quiver]

Hmm okay, I’ll probably do versions. I hope my coding ability doesn’t end up being miserable

[pseudo vault]

I feel ya

[calm quiver]

It’s literally JUST textures so I can’t imagine breaking too many things

But you never know

Also, has anyone ever done an item texture pack before? I looked on Nexus mods, but didn’t see any broad sweeping ones

[calm nebula]

Vanilla Tweaks

[calm quiver]

I’ll check that out

Their stuff is so good wtf

[rough lintel]

vanilla tweaks has one for everything, yeah

[calm quiver]

Their sizes also match. I hope my full sprites don’t suck in game /: I kinda maxed out the 16x16 on a lot of them.

[rough lintel]

the sprites youve done look beautiful so im sure that wont be an issue at all lol

[calm quiver]

Man I wish you could scale them just SLIGHTLY smaller

[uncut viper]

(just in case you try later on: its not just a bad idea, its not an idea. the Cooking channel is hardcoded to loop after however many weeks vanilla has before doing reruns)

[calm quiver]

thanks, but I mean some of them are so big compared to the original scale ykniw

[calm nebula]

With enough if your own c$

[rough lintel]

as long as its recognizable, people wont whine about it :P

[calm quiver]

Alright

Fair enough

[uncut viper]

i dont even have enough regular $

[rough lintel]

i personally wouldnt mind so long as it stays 16x16 resolution, which you did

so youll be totally ok

[pseudo vault]

Damn. Thanks for the info. It'd be too many anyways lol.

[calm nebula]

What about using secret note framework

[pseudo vault]

Maybe I should just have them unlocked by default... They technically are in HM DS as well. You just need to figure out the items and utensils

[calm nebula]

Go cash out your Dp

[pseudo vault]

D$

[calm nebula]

Hey Pathos data asset cooking channel plz?

[pseudo vault]

I do remember a mod that added custom channels

I even tried editing a bit to add in the old Harvest Moon GBA shows

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/24278 Oh. This could maybe work?

Now this makes me wanna do the HM GBA channels...

[uncut viper]

im flattered you think this would give me enough

[devout otter]

It seems that being able to give recipes is a planned update, so that's hopeful!

[fathom hound]

[pseudo vault]

This'd be awesome

I'll play around with it and add the cool TV shows from HM GBA

My dear Princess

This show is broadcasted every Sunday.```

[fathom hound]

What about the full length bee movie /j

[pseudo vault]

Wait a second...

Dueling Chefs

This show is broadcasted every Tuesday. ```

So HM GBA HAD a channel that teached recipes

Well, Guess I'll make the recipes obtained that way once it is supported

[ivory plume]

(That's currently line 54 in my TODO.txt. So no guarantees, but it could be in 1.6.16 or a future version. But if there's a working mod framework for it, it'll be lower-priority.)

[uncut viper]

(ichor pls hide Secret Note Framework from nexus /j)

[calm nebula]

So don't do anything. Got it

(I should say that when I'm like "hey Pathos whatever plz" I'm kinda saying it tongue in cheek and am not actually trying to make a request of any sort.)

[uncut viper]

(i should say that if atra ever says "hey pathos whatever plz" and its a genuinely good idea that i AM actually seconding their request of the sort)

[ivory plume]

(New in the upcoming Stardew Valley 1.6.16:

• Monster data has been completely rethought. There may be further changes before release.
• Added new game state queries, new item queries, and new item spawn fields.
• Many hardcoded monster drops have been moved into data; others will follow before release.
  )

[calm nebula]

Yay!

[uncut viper]

"completely rethought" instead of "now a data model" is scary

[tiny zealot]

i, for one, welcome our new monster model (i have not read the link yet)

[uncut viper]

easy monster variants...

[pseudo vault]

New question, anyone understand what this means?

[uncut viper]

oooh, now that you can add enchantments to an item with the item spawn fields, how about an ITEM_ENCHANTMENTS item-only game state query to accompany it to check if an item has an enchantment applied?

[ivory plume]

Possibly! Since it's not something the base game will use, that'd be something to bring up during the next mod author beta when it can be tested by mod authors.

[calm nebula]

Hey

I make fuzzy hats for fun now. All my ideas are bad

[brittle pasture]

TempData is pretty interesting

(also I was this close to typing "what about ObjectColor" before scrolling down)

well that's that's two more mod features I can retire (ObjectColor applying to shirts and prismatic slime drop chance tweaks)

(two features used by 0 mods currently, meaning I can drop em guilt free)

[lucid iron]

Pathos can u bump CustomFields up to GenericItemSpawnData thx

I been forced to put things in moddata but at least i can choose to put things in tempdata now(?)

[pseudo vault]

This is bad... They are too tiny...

[twin wadi]

why is tinkering with my mod so fun? it's weirdly addicting to fix up my portraits and making each pixel perfect lol and making lines of dialogue and stuff

[pseudo vault]

Yeah I can't do it. 42x28 doesn't work with these

Old TV shows on flatscreens be like... (I can't draw so I can't redo them)

[twin wadi]

i mean, there's no such thing as cant draw, you can always learn how... but if you arent interested idk how to add in different scale sprites

[pseudo vault]

Well, it's not that I'm not interested. But I did learn something when I tried to learn to draw

[fathom hound]

These are so nice!

[pseudo vault]

Why... was I not allowed to say that I never got any better when I tried to draw for weeks?

[pseudo vault]

They are from Harvest Moon Friends of Mineral Town.

[round timber]

its because of the small text, people abuse it so its blocked

for lower level members anyway

[pseudo vault]

Wait what.

[round timber]

-# this stuff

[pseudo vault]

Did I miss that in the rules?

[round timber]

its not explicitly mentioned in the rules

as long as you dont do anything sus with it youre fine anyway

[pseudo vault]

Okay.

New question. "All channels are rebroadcast every two years (Stardew Valley has 112 days in a year)." So does this mean I can't have more than 224?

This show has 34 episodes and airs every friday

I need 238 days in total...

[brittle pasture]

if the framework says you can't then probably not

[pseudo vault]

They don't straight up say it.

So I am confused

[woeful lintel]

Just realized that I should probably look into how this framework works to make sure FF's custom screen depth works with it

[wise forge]

i've run across something that's totally stumping me for some reason... i'm working on a custom build for solid foundations and i cannot for the life of me figure out how to alter the size of the actual texture. i figured out how to edit the tile spaces, but not the actual image. what setting is it that i'm missing? ^^;

[fathom hound]

Congrats Button on new release

[brittle pasture]

obligatory "what are you using SF for"

[wise forge]

i'm a baby modder and it seemed easier than making a CP pack

that's the whole reason 🤣

[brittle pasture]

well we still recommend learning CP
it's slightly more difficult yes, but it's more powerful, and you get the whole game opened up to you

(plus there's more people here who knows CP than SF)

[wise forge]

that's fair! i want to learn it, and i've done a little bit of messing around with CP, but i haven't managed to make a mod yet that isn't super buggy

[twin wadi]

if you're interested in learning cp, the stardew modding wiki is a great resource! https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg

if you havent used it yet

[pseudo vault]

I'm not sure if whole game is correct... From what I heard you can't add forage to mining levels.

[wise forge]

I'm definitely staring at it right now, haha. Thank you!!

[lucid mulch]

everything is relative.
solid foundations (SF) can only do buildings as its its sole purpose was to backport the 1.6 building functionality to 1.5.6

Content Patcher can interact with the entire asset pipeline, and most of the game is data driven

[pseudo vault]

Thanks for explaining.

[sand timber]

Hey, does anyone know if it's okay to upload .exe files on Nexus Mods? I uploaded one and it got quarantined as a virus

[rigid oriole]

I personally wouldn't recommend uploading an exe ever. What was its purpose?

I think nexus tends to quarantine exe files tho to answer the question

[blissful panther]

They're definitely okay with them (like with Stardrop, Coriel's NPC Creator, etc.), but I imagine if it's an account that hasn't uploaded a single mod before...

[uncut viper]

it is explicitly allowed, but it does come with scrutiny

[blissful panther]

Or if it's in a RAR.

[sand timber]

The .exe is a standalone build of my Python script . Here's the mod page if you're curious:

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/34961

[blissful panther]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/701b7dd9cc76c5d69169bf452e829166af457f7c51e1afc22a6b7d0672c378ca/detection/f-701b7dd9cc76c5d69169bf452e829166af457f7c51e1afc22a6b7d0672c378ca-1750284889

Yeah, it's picking up some stuff.

(Whether false positive or not!)

[sand timber]

So I just need to wait for the file to be reviewed ?

[rigid oriole]

I feel theres an implicit distrust of exe files

[uncut viper]

it would probably help users (even if not Nexus) feel better about it if you showed source code, too

[rigid oriole]

Like ill download stardrop and run a smapi shell script because those already have trust

[sand timber]

Would it be better to just upload the py script then? My original intention was to make this tool available to people with no code knowledge

[rigid oriole]

Wait did you distribute the entire character sprite files?

[blissful panther]

Looks like it, yeah.

[rigid oriole]

Surely you can ask for a path to an unpacked content folder

[blissful panther]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/ae5a99fbc060842ebcc1a704c62a994364b416baab3e0542ac31677a3218c6a9?nocache=1

I uploaded just the .exe, and it has one more detection on its own.

It's definitely the Python runtime being packed into the single exe with no reputation setting this off, I'd be willing to bet.

[sand timber]

Yes, I included sprite sheets of vanilla characters.

[gaunt orbit]

I spent way too much time on this fun visual effect

[old edge]

Hello

[blissful panther]

Yeah, you should really not be doing that, especially when the tools to unpack the files for the end user are so easily available and user friendly.

[rigid oriole]

Fun!

The icon art has gotten more intuitive imo

I like it a lot

[gaunt orbit]

It involved a lot of copy-pasting and horrible SpriteText hackery

[gaunt orbit]

thank you!

[rigid oriole]

HHD?

[gaunt orbit]

yessss

[rigid oriole]

I truly need to install that

[sand timber]

I didn’t realize that was an issue. I’ll remove the sprite sheets and reupload the mod soon. Thank you<3

[round dock]

Looks amazing, Wren friend

[gaunt orbit]

Getting back into ui stuff for stardew has both reminded me how much I love doing ui stuff and how incredibly lacking the built-in ui stuff is.

[rigid oriole]

The day I have to learn stardew ui I will simply hope chu and/or button are around and willing to answer questions

[gaunt orbit]

It's not overly complicated, it's just very, very barebones. You get only very basic tools and have to do nearly everything yourself

[merry rampart]

how does the game let abigail go down to the mines? i dont see it in her schedule...

[vernal crest]

IIRC mine Abigail isn't real

She's a C# generated map tile or something

[merry rampart]

hmmm. alright

[pseudo vault]

I finally did it. the whole My Dear Princess anime from Harvest Moon Friends of Mineral Town. Had to sadly make it so it airs on both Saturday and Sunday because of the Reruns limiting it to two years.(?)

I was not sure if Text allows "" these. so I used these instead ``

Also not sure if text allows : so I used this ; instead

[devout otter]

(Vanilla itself typically uses ' and :)

[compact tartan]

hi! im brand new to modding and have maybe a bit of a silly question. ive made an interface recolor mod for content patcher and have run into the issue where drop downs are darker than intended. im struggling to find out what exactly i colored wrong in my assets to produce this result and would love if someone who knew could tell me where the game exactly picks this color from

[pseudo vault]

How do you do that single one?

Also, isn't that the same as :?

Like "normal":{

[vernal crest]

It's usually on the same key as a double quote, though it can be on the same key as the @ symbol instead

There's no issue with using a colon (:) inside text as far as I know.

[pseudo vault]

Sadly I live in Austria so my keyboard is different...

[pseudo vault]

There isn't? Woah

[vernal crest]

If you're using a German layout, the single quote mark might be on the same key as the #. If using Swiss, it might be with the ?.

[timber plover]

can someone quick explain what not to do when doing maps...like the map is trying to find tilesets on my pc where it shouldn look >.>....hard to show since i already made a mistakes and i dont know how to tell it to look into the games folder

[vernal crest]

When editing a map, you always need to keep all the tilesheets that you use inside the same folder as the map. Never direct Tiled to find a tilesheet outside the folder. Then when you test, you remove the tilesheets from the folder so that SMAPI looks inside the game folder for the tilesheets.

(Or to achieve the same result without having to remove the tilesheets you can put dots in front of the tilesheet names and then SMAPI will ignore those ones and look in the game folder for the tilesheets.)

[timber plover]

🥹 THANK YOU SOO MUCH

.> i worked with another map editor before so ..i was confused.
i think the other programm does is diffrently then "TILED" does. ha ..or i just forgot how to do it ÖvÖ

[timber plover]

YES its working again ❤️ thanks again

[pseudo vault]

Question! Is it possible to add in a Bootleg Stardrop?

like an item that perma increases stamina

If it is, I'd like to try and add in the Power Berry

[molten kestrel]

Heyy guys

[compact tartan]

oh my god i figured it out nvm i feel a bit silly but its fixed

[round dock]

Harvest Moon?

[pseudo vault]

Yes, call me the Harvest Moon porter girl lol

[tribal ember]

cool as hell!

[lucid iron]

For this mod i wonder if you can just write a include with local tokens

The only change is item id and texture isn't it?

[wise forge]

I have definitely stayed up all night figuring out a content patcher version of the "building" I'm trying to make... but I keep running into an error that I can't seem to fix. The image I'm using for the texture is just.... absent. As far as I can tell everything is formatted correctly in my json file, but the image just does not show 😭 Would anyone be willing to take a look and help me out?

[lucid iron]

Did u get a 🚫 on a shipping bin when you tried?

[wise forge]

Nope. Only an invisible photo

[lucid iron]

!json use validator if u want to post what u have

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

Hm invisible photo sounds like you did load a texture but it's transparent

[wise forge]

It just shows up like this

Same when built, there's just nothing there :(

[wise forge]

I'll check the image itself for sure

[lucid iron]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_a_New_Farm_Building

Did you follow guide like this?

[wise forge]

I was following the wiki modding page, yes, just a slightly different one (had the rundowns of all of the string commands and what they do)

[calm nebula]

Just for shits and giggles try uploading the picture here

I'm also a fan of using a bright red and green checked pattern

[lucid iron]

Yeah that's the main wiki page with all the fields, this one is a guide with examples

Are you using seasonoffset

[wise forge]

The image seems alright as far as I can tell

[wise forge]

I don't think so! Let me check

[lucid iron]

just send ur json

Otherwise ill have to keep asking

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[calm nebula]

If you draw a big x in the top left corner can you see that

That seems

Quite large

[lucid iron]

Yeah this png needs a 30 tile wide building to show up

[wise forge]

Oof

I was avoiding resizing the image because I had noticed when I tried using SF instead that resizing was causing a noticable blur

I'm guessing that's the issue, but here's my json for good measure pfft

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d96f1c6cf61c4fb7b454e84bf644957b

[lucid iron]

Well getting rid of the transparency stuff would help yes

Ah this source rect is indeed only the top corner lol

So yeah you did everything right besides png too big

[vernal crest]

Yeah it's only 80x112 when your image is 494x409

[wise forge]

Honestly this is a relief lol

I was convinced that I was just incapable of writing a usable json 🤣

[lucid iron]

So if u want a 18x10 building that uses the whole boat still, i would pick out a 288 wide section to use as the body of the boat, and then use a draw layer to handle any out of bounds bits

[calm nebula]

This is why you test by drawing scribbles over the entire image

Or using a red green checker 😛

[wise forge]

Gotcha!!

[valid folio]

Hi, how are you all? May I bother you for a moment? Where can I find the crop sprites? Specifically the one for the blueberry? I need it for a winter blueberry I want to make.

On another note, I wanted to replace the images from the fishing minigame, but a friend edited the colors for me and I was wondering—would it work to replace the whole image instead of just the part where the fishing sprites are? Something like that?

{
"Format": "2.7.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditImage",
"Target": "LooseSprites/Cursors",
"FromFile": "assets/Cursors.png",
},
]
}

[vernal crest]

It will work to do that but it will be terrible for compatibility with any other mod. And if you're going to replace the entire sheet you might as well Load it.

[calm nebula]

Tilesheets/crops for the plant

Maps/springobjects for the product

[lucid iron]

I thought we already talked about doing EditImage for fishing rod ui

Pls do that

[valid folio]

Yes, but I didn't get the chance to do it, and now that I'm looking into it properly, I want to give it a try. That's why I'm asking again. I don't have much time before my vision gets worse again, so I want to be sure of what I'm doing

[valid folio]

So if I use Load, will I avoid any compatibility issues with other mods?

[valid folio]

Thanks

[vernal crest]

No, not at all. Replacing the entire sheet causes compatibility problems whether it's done by EditImage or Load but at least with Load you'll get slightly better performance. If you want to do it "properly" (as in, without ruining compat with other mods) then the approach is to use the ToArea and FromArea fields that we gave you last time.

[fading walrus]

(EditImage is really the best option here, as the others have already explained. I wouldn't do a Load either.)

[valid folio]

OK Like in this example, right? Replacing 'edit' with 'load

{
"Format": "2.7.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditImage",
"Target": "Maps/springobjects",
"FromFile": "assets/fish-object.png",
"FromArea": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 16, "Height": 16 }, // optional, defaults to entire FromFile
"ToArea": { "X": 256, "Y": 96, "Width": 16, "Height": 16 } // optional, defaults to source size from top-left
},
]
}

[valid folio]

ok

[vernal crest]

You do not want to change EditImage to Load, no. Keep it as EditImage. But you do want to use FromArea and ToArea like in that example.

[valid folio]

ok

[vernal crest]

And if you're still looking to change the colour of the fishing bar like last time, these are the coordinates you want: #making-mods-general message

[valid folio]

yes, thanks

[wise forge]

Back with pirate ship updates.... after the resizing, I'm now getting that shipping bin with the error over it

[lucid iron]

Progress

[wise forge]

I was so close lol

[lucid iron]

Did you forget to Load the texture

[wise forge]

Very possibly, I'm going over it now

[lucid iron]

My suggestion originally was actually

Keep the png as is

Mark out the 288 wide source rect to put in SourceRect

Add 2 draw layers for whatever bleeds out to the right and whatever bleeds out to the left

[wise forge]

Yup, didn't put the Load action in

[lavish jewel]

Hello! I'm a non-coder, but I would like to compile a mod. It's designed to make sprinklers break down at a random chance and need repairs. I need help compiling it. I'm one of those SDV players who likes making the game more challenging. I'm also trying to make it Expanded compatable.

Can anyone help please?

[lucid iron]

By compile a mod, does that mean it's an existing mod that no longer works?

[lavish jewel]

No, it's a freshly written mod. I'm just planning to use it for personal use.

[iron ridge]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[lucid iron]

Im puzzled by how you can have written a mod but need help compiling

[rough lintel]

[ominous look in the other direction]

[lucid iron]

But either way try the button press mod example on the C# tutorial

Once u walk through that how2 compile should make sense

[round timber]

(also a gameplay mod like that should generally be compatible with SVE anyway, no need to do anything special. mods are generally compatible unless they try to edit the same thing at the sametime)

[lavish jewel]

Pretend like I'm computer stupid (cause I am and know zero about programming). Basically I used an AI to write the mod, since I'm only planning to use it for my games to make it more realistic and tougher for me. I don't know if that is frowned upon in this community (I'm guessing now it may be based on other people's comments).

So I have zero clue what you mean by "try the button press mod example on the C# tutorial".

If this is a hassle (noob here), Let me know and I'll see if I can figure something else out (this direction is what the AI suggested when it said the mod needs to be compiled).

[vernal crest]

It is both frowned upon and also pointless to use AI

[iron ridge]

yeah ai is terrible at sdv mods, far too little training data

[lucid iron]

I'm gonna point at the please no ai line in #rules

[lucid iron]

If you read this message though, you can see that one link talks about getting started with C# modding

[lavish jewel]

Ah... that should be shown in the first area you have to sign off in order to text. Maybe it was, and I missed it though. Sorry!

[lucid iron]

I suspect whatever approximation of a mod the ai spit out is going to need a full rewrite to work anyways

But if you are serious about doing this the high level approach would be

• at day ending, iterate every location, look through the objects net dict, and do 2 things
  1. Tag any sprinklers without moddata days remaining with moddata days remaining
  2. For sprinklers that do have moddata, decrement the days. If they should be destroyed, remove them from the location
• bonus points send whatever held object it has to the lost and found so people don't lose enricher or pressure nozzle

[lavish jewel]

Since you all are saying that the AI's mod will not likely function, is there a place I could request a human to write it? Any idea how much something like that would cost (disabled SSDI person who plays way too much SDV to keep me sane, but low fixed income).

[vernal crest]

!comms

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !comms.

[lucid iron]

!modideas

[ocean sail]

If you have a mod idea that you aren't planning to make yourself, you can put it in the mod ideas github: https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas

However, this does not mean anyone is guaranteed to work on your idea—modders who are looking for ideas sometimes go through and work on what they find interesting off this list. If you want to pay someone to make your mod idea, there are a few people who do commissions (mostly art, sometimes code); you can ask around, search usernames for the word comms, or see !commissions.

To use this command, type !modideas.

[pseudo vault]

AI is hilariously bad. It even gives misinformation on google.

[lucid iron]

Feel free to toss idea on here occasionally people will pick it up

[pseudo vault]

(Please do not trust Google AI either)

[lavish jewel]

Thank you!

I appreciate the help, and sorry for breaking the rules one this one

[rough lintel]

my ominous look was correct

[vernal crest]

That's okay, it's pretty common for people to come in and say they've used AI and then we have to explain why that won't work. You're the second person in just a few hours. As long as people don't dig their heels in and insist they know more than we do about it rather than listening, it's not really viewed as a big sin.

[lucid iron]

Heeyy lani wanna do baby's 1.6 c# mod attempt 2 \j

It'd be just 1 smapi event trust

[vernal crest]

(Speaking from experience as a disabled person on disability pension, learning to make mods is pretty fun!)

[lavish jewel]

Where did you learn? How much time and $ did it take? I'm always down for learning new skills if my brain doesn't get overloaded

[wise forge]

I've had fun learning how modding works! Speaking as someone who is fighting the self-taught modding battle lol

[vernal crest]

I learned it all right here and it's cost me nothing (except that one time I commissioned a friend to draw me a portrait for a mod before I learned enough drawing for myself). I've not learned much C# yet to be honest because I jump between my different mod ideas and most of them aren't ones that need C#. But everything I do know about and can do in C# has been thanks to the resources and people in this community.

As for time, well, I've been making mods for just over a year and trying to learn C# for maybe 6 months. I go very slowly though because I have a fatigue disorder so I only have about an hour of usable brain time a day.

[lucid iron]

Remember basically no one is earning significant cash from this

[calm nebula]

$0, 2 hrs, reading Microsoft documentation

[lucid iron]

Learning and doing modding should be for fun

[rough lintel]

:(

[calm nebula]

And looking at another mod as an example

[lucid iron]

Atra is built different, experience not applicable to the average person

[rough lintel]

WRONG

[vernal crest]

I'm pretty sure they were asking how much it cost me, Chu, not how much money I get from it.

[wise forge]

This has been wildly helpful for me personally!!

[rough lintel]

$0, countless unquantifiable hours, looking at other mods and W3 schools and asking in this channel

[lucid iron]

Oh yeah i was trying to say "no need to invest money into this"

[round dock]

Just wanted to add my take as a modder who literally knew nothing about coding prior, there’s a lot of guides out there for babies like us. Takes a lot of humility to learn, be receptive of mistakes, and ask for help but it’s quite rewarding, especially once the mod you poured your work into actually loads and works!

[lucid iron]

It's also important to remember everyone's got different backgrounds and prior experience

[rough lintel]

nodnod

[rough lintel]

what is a smapi event.

[lucid iron]

I already know like 3 programming languages so picking up one more language is not hard

[rough lintel]

you got me curious.

[round dock]

Outside of guides, I learned best from example so I even how mods were structured and how json worked. Plus, this community has always been so helpful, gracious, and extend help as much as they can. I still ask help from time to time.

[lucid iron]

helper Events GameLoop DayEnding

[rough lintel]

like, an in game event using sma-

[shakes in my boots]

[lucid iron]

There's a list of em on the wiki but i was thinking u would use this one

[vernal crest]

Ah yeah fair enough. And you're right; a person would often have to pay to get someone to make an entire mod for them but can get lots of free help here if they're genuinely trying to learn how to make that same mod for themselves.

[lucid iron]

Yeah sorry events in the programming sense not the heart event sense

[rough lintel]

as long as you’re not asking to get spoonfed, you’ll most likely get help

[round dock]

On a related note, Aba helped me playtest and literally guided me until I got my solution patience of a saint I swear

[gentle rose]

-# caution: this was not atra's first programming language. atra's mileage may vary. terms and conditions apply

[lavish jewel]

Sorry, reading the Mod page, seeing what I can glean off of it before commenting anymore

[wise forge]

Man oh man this pirate ship is going to kill me

Now I'm getting a push/pop error 😭 My brain is so fried lol

[vernal crest]

I do also have programming experience, but in a totally different context (data analysis) and with very different languages (R, SAS) that I found it did not help with a great deal of C# or game dev concepts.

[lavish jewel]

Ok... I'll give the listed tutorials a try. Hopefully I understand them and can learn to do this on my own. Thanks to all of you for pointing out this info to me!

[calm nebula]

Push pop just means a menu is broken

[wise forge]

Makes sense, scrolling through Robin's shop menu, the game just skips over my mod entirely for some reason 🥴

It pops up very very briefly but nowhere near long enough to be selectable

[gaunt orbit]

Console should have other errors in it. Why don't you post a log?

[wise forge]

Oh, it definitely does. One second!

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/98d58d0aba0b437d8668a49a82fdde4d

[gaunt orbit]

That's, uh, the json page, not the log page

[wise forge]

FFfuu

[blissful panther]

(That's also the terminal output, and not the log file.)

[calm nebula]

(Can we have the full log)

[wise forge]

Put it into the wrong thing lol

[calm nebula]

Otoh I am not a professional game dev and will never be

[wise forge]

It always takes me a hot second to remember how to get a proper log

[calm nebula]

I'm not that smart

[hard fern]

🤔 for the map im thinking of making, it's supposed to be totally across the ocean... i feel like it would be weird though, for the player to take any mode of transportation and still make it within a day, so i was thinking about the wizard giving you knowledge of a super secret teleportation spell to get there... but uh, how would i even do that?
i dont mean in terms of setting up the event where he tells u abt it bc that's easy.
i know east scarp (?) or was it rsv that had the totem.. but you can also make custom obelisks right?

[blissful panther]

🗞️

[hard fern]

(i dunno anything about buildings)

[wise forge]

https://smapi.io/log/8ddf68c837864609916054a2c5edc4b7

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 15.5.0, with 116 C# mods and 337 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[wise forge]

There we go

[gaunt orbit]

Just from skimming it, it seems like you have an invalid ingredient in your blueprint

I think maybe the item id is null?

[wise forge]

Ooooh, got it 👀 I'll make sure my item codes are correct

[left nova]

Make your map one of the stop of The Central Station?

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8000

[vernal crest]

Yes you can and if you wait just a bit Chu will descend upon you to tell you all about it xD

[hard fern]

i know central station is an option, but to me it doesnt make much sense considering just how far away my location is

that, and i think tying it to the wizard gives him a little more to do in my mod XD

🤔 now i should probably get to work on the map itself so i can load it and at least get it working...

...i forgot to install tiled on this computer

well. it will finally be up to date. i guess. 😅

[brittle pasture]

yeah obelisks are entirely data driven

just a building with a fancy magic warp action on touch

[hard fern]

oh thats remarkably simple

[lucid iron]

Wow slander /j

Yeah just copy a vanilla obelisk's data and change the warp coords

[wise forge]

Looked through my json and compared with other mods; none of the items are set to null and the codes are all correct as far as I can tell...

[gaunt orbit]

can you post your json?

I looked through the decompile and checked it against the stacktrace and it does seem to be a null item id that is the problem

actually wait, it should be getting an error item instead if that's the case

it shouldn't be possible to create an item with no data

[wise forge]

Yeah, and it's odd because the items were loading in just fine before

[gaunt orbit]

what happens if you test it with the bare minimum number of mods

[wise forge]

Let me repost my json and I'll get back to you about testing it!

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d05760ac1683473dbae6c00149cde8b0

[brittle pasture]

your drawlayers entry is inside the buildmaterials list

that's where the null item id is coming from

[gaunt orbit]

well that would certainly do it

[brittle pasture]

also obligatory "pls use {{ModId}} in your building id"

[wise forge]

Oop!

Got it. Was just about to come back and report that it wasn't a compatibility issue

[opaque field]

do events in the JojaMart just not work now?

T.T

I had one, it worked, nothing about the event has changed but suddenly when I try and debug ebi it says event not found???

I then also made a testmod and that one said 'could not be found' too

[brittle pasture]

how did you add your event

[uncut viper]

there are no events in the JojaMart, so it needs a blank.json

did you remove your blank load or uninstall a mod that may have been doing it for you?

[opaque field]

ohhhhhhh, I've never used a blank.json before for any of my events. I haven't uninstalled anything recently either

[uncut viper]

if a location is either 1) not a vanilla location or b) not used for any vanilla events, it needs a blank.json loaded to it to "create" its event file

before you can EditData into it

[opaque field]

so I just have a blank.json in the events folder? Let me try that and I'll see if that fixes it. I'm using a laptop instead of my main computer but I was careful to set it up exactly as my computer

[uncut viper]

no. you need to Action: Load it

[round timber]

to Data/Events/[MapName]

[uncut viper]

{
  "Action": "Load",
  "Target": "Data/Events/JojaMart",
  "FromFile": "blank.json",
  "Priority": "Low"
}

the priority is important

[opaque field]

ooohhh okay. I've never hit this before. Thank you! 😄

[uncut viper]

make sure the fromfile path is adjusted to wherever you put your blank too

and remember that inside a blank.json is just written {} and nothing else

[opaque field]

Will do!

[wise forge]

My poor laptop watching me load up SDV a 30th time:

[opaque field]

okay that totally fixed it

[wise forge]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-loud-scream-girl-kid-hispanic-girl-gif-3761151244536557927

[opaque field]

mine toooo fam RIP my poor laptop

[wise forge]

She's simply doing her best lmao

[latent mauve]

As a note, since Joja Mart is a vanilla location, you want to make sure your blank JSON load has a low/early priority to prevent errors with any other mods that may add events there and try to load exclusively and overwrite your event file

[opaque field]

awesome, thank you 😄

[latent mauve]

(if two mods try to load a file at the same target location without setting a priority, both are considered exclusive and neither will be loaded)

Oh, whoops, Button put the priority in their example code and I just glazed right over it, so you probably didn't need that explanation, LOL

[valid folio]

Well, I tried, but it didn’t work. It still shows up green. I tested with two possible coordinates: the one you gave me and another I found myself (just one pixel apart). I don't see any error in SMAPI, and it looks like Content Patcher is trying to edit it correctly, but the green bar remains unchanged — it’s still green.

The other option I can think of is to make the fishing icon more visible by changing its color — I mean the fish icon that we have to keep within the green bar — but I'm not exactly sure which one it is. I think I found it, but I’m not sure if it’s the right one.

[empty vector]

Hi, I need some help with modception and it not really working out the way I want it to.

I'll try to keep it as brief as possible:
Cornucopia Artisan Machines add Pickle Spears as an item, they require [Cornucopia] Cucumber in the Preserves Jar. Cornucopia More Crops has an SVE patch where SVE cucumbers can be used instead but I don't want this enabled as it effectively removes items from Cornucopia More Crops.

I want to add my own rule (to Stardew Valley Balance Overhaul) hwre instead of a [Cornucopia] Cucumber you could use 3 [SVE] cucumbers. This would be easy but SVE Forage Crops, a mod I play with and want to account for, has this same rule implemented (1 SVE Cucumber = Pickle Spears) and I cannot overwrite or remove it (without disabling their patch, which I don't want to do since it does other things I enjoy). The only thing I managed to do is add an additional rule where you could use 3, which does take precedent but if you only have one or two Cucumbers in your inventory only one will be consumed instead of giving invalid count.