making-mods-general

[desert tinsel]

Guys, I'm working on a project to create a mod that adds new NPCs to the town, and I've been studying all the available content carefully.

My goal is to add these two characters together since they are a couple. Because of that, I’d like them to have dialogues that complement each other, as well as always walk together and follow a shared daily routine.

Do you think this is possible? If so, do you have any advice for me?

[rigid musk]

dialogue yes, walking together might be harder though

you can definitely have them follow eachother and go to the same place thats not hard

but walking side by side isn't really possible with how the scheduler does stuff i dont think

(think of how Penny, Jas, and Vincent all walk to take them back to their houses and stuff, not all next to eachother but kinda in a line)

[desert tinsel]

Yes, I was thinking exactly about that cute way they walk together, in a line. But I’m still looking for the part that explains how to do it since I’m pretty new to this and not sure how it works yet.

But aside from that part, which I imagine might be a bit confusing (for a beginner), the rest isn’t impossible, right?

[rigid musk]

all you would have to do is make their schedules leave at the same time for that :) then they would walk together

the rest is fine as well, dialogue is easy to match as long as you just share the same keys with eachother

(i.e. for their spring first dialogue they both say something that matches the other person)

[desert tinsel]

Aaaah, I can breathe in peace now, knowing that maybe I'm on the right path after all. :')

Right, I appreciate you reassuring me that it’s not impossible and that I can continue with peace of mind~^^

[rigid musk]

Do y'all ever get a SMAPI log with an insane amount of mods in it and just... not want to do anything with that

[flat sluice]

All the time I launch a normal SMAPI profile, lastly somehow updated for 1.6.9+ update.
BUT, my poor NPC Eleanor took me more time than I thought she would take, so I *do * want to play my modded game (finally with her) but don't want to launch SMAPI because I have to update like every single one of my 700+ mods...

[rigid musk]

That wasn't quite what I meant but I get that too

My big set of mods requires so... so many updates

I finally got a log from the person who posted the copy paste of an error they had (that i cant replicate) and said log has... so many mods in it

[vernal crest]

When I see the people with "1k+" in their names in support I tend to find other support posts unless I'm feeling really strong lol

[rigid musk]

I tried sifting through it to find what mod could be editing Sandy's Oasis to prevent him from warping during the desert festival but I couldn't find anything directly, and I honestly do not want to go through it individually

I'm glad I can do most of my error fixing myself, I would feel bad if I had to come in and be like 'hey guys can you help me' and then I send a SMAPI log of 1.5k mods

[calm nebula]

Tbh I open a support post and the log is like "300 c# mods 700 content packs" I'm like...nah

Maybe not

[vernal crest]

Do you know how to search the trace for edits? (Sorry if you do and I should know that!)

[vernal crest]

Yeah if it's something simple like "my wizard is still a man!" and I can quickly see they have SCA and go "disable the wizard in SCA", sure. If it's something where I would have to dig to figure out the problem...sorry friend it's 50/50 time for you!

[calm nebula]

"My game is lagging!" Log: "300 c# 700 content packs". Me: " maybe we want to work on accepting the lag"

[gentle rose]

error is from [game], they have 400 C# mods and 20 of them haven’t loaded for various reasons. Quick way to make me nope out of a ticket

[rigid musk]

God I was going to go and look at the SMAPI log to show what I do to search for stuff but it's taking ages to load ... and if that isnt an indicator of how much I DONT want to deal with this idk what is

[flat sluice]

Maybe asking for log with patch summary full would help? It gives too many info, but maybe you'll find something helpful in it!

[gentle rose]

they have 3 million content packs and they all work purely through ontimechanged patches with no conditions

[gentle rose]

if you DM me the log, I can try having a look for you?

[vernal crest]

I love trace searching, I'll look for you!

[rigid musk]

https://smapi.io/log/2c923b60effe45f082f155c884678b65 🫴

[vernal crest]

Is Sandy's Oasis a new area your mod adds?

[rigid musk]

no no it's just the oasis itself

[gentle rose]

(for those of you who don’t do #1272025932932055121 much, you may be surprised to hear that almost everything in patch summary full can be found in the trace logs without it too, as well as a lot more info including some C# mods)

[rigid musk]

her house or "SandyHouse" in the game files

[vernal crest]

So the desert?

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Майкрософт Windows 10 Pro, with 162 C# mods and 476 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[rigid musk]

woah oh my god

[vernal crest]

Oh her shop

[rigid musk]

it took so long to do that lmao

Poor Governor

Yeah the error they're having is that apparently there isn't a warp from her shop to the desert festival map

But I know damn well there IS a warp there because sandy takes it every day during the festival

[gentle rose]

so what happens when they leave the shop?

[rigid musk]

The schedule just doesn't run because it can't find a path there is what I'm guessing happens

They didn't really give me much other than showing the issue and then eventually sending a log

[vernal crest]

The log is not loading!

[rigid musk]

(after i asked for it)

The log is massive

[vernal crest]

Well it needs to hurry up because I am meant to be going to bed and I was just trying to sneak this in before I went

[gentle rose]

it loaded for me - I don’t see much editing the oasis though nothing I would expect to break the festival at least

[rigid musk]

Aba go to bed my goodness

[gentle rose]

oh, the error is the other way around - a warp is missing from the festival to the oasis

[rigid musk]

That... also doesn't make sense - I'm pretty sure sandy goes BACK into the oasis at the end of the day as well

[gentle rose]

but I don’t see a desert festival map being edited inside their log at all other than in that error

which means it may be edited by a c# mod

[vernal crest]

Sandy sleeps in AngelOfStars.Mrqifriendable_QiRoom? No, I'm guessing that to get to Qi's Room you go through Sandy's house first.

[gentle rose]

oh, lily, did you test your mod out with SVE installed?

should have pinged @rigid musk

[vernal crest]

She says in her mod description that she tested all the festivals for SVE compat.

[rigid musk]

Yes I indeed did all that testing

With and without

[tidal stone]

How hard is it to program an npc ik its subjective but im wonderign how the room reads because idk if i wanna step into it yet or not but i kinnndddaa wanna make a little oc of mine real

[rigid musk]

pain

That's my perspective, it is pain

[tidal stone]

XD

[rigid musk]

Yeah he goes through the Oasis to get to the Casino to get to his room

[tidal stone]

maybe ilkl do a replacing npc mod first

get a feel for it

[rigid musk]

If you can do a replacer you can make an NPC ... if you're gonna do that just go all the way at that point heehoo

[tidal stone]

XD fairrr ok

[rigid musk]

In the long run it really depends on what you want for your NPC - some concepts are easier than others

Generally you're gonna wanna know how to do map making and patching first, because your NPC needs a place to live

[flat sluice]

Well, as you said, it's subjective. Hard at first, time demanding, but when you get to it, and also when you have as great helping community as Stardew has (and that I asked here too many times for such a stupid things and problems), you can enjoy it.

[tidal stone]

ill make her live in the woods XD

she eats dirt idk

[rigid musk]

After that it's the general NPC stuff like dialogue, scheduling, festival stuff, etc

😭 in da woods wit no house

[tidal stone]

idk where to put her house lmao

ill have to look at the map

do some brainstorming prob

[rigid musk]

If you intend on releasing it to the public you also might want to think about compatibility

A lot of people put stuff in them there woods

[tidal stone]

true hmm

Im pulling up the map right now

[rigid musk]

and of course the dreaded SVE compatibility...

[flat sluice]

This might help:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30295?tab=posts

[vernal crest]

Lily is lying! You do not need to give them a house or make a map!

[flat sluice]

And that's why my mod is not SVE compactible - SVE is its dependency.

[rigid musk]

HOMELESS NPCS

[vernal crest]

Especially with Central Station now you can just have an NPC who lives nearby like Claire and Martin. Which you should know, SVE discord moderator :P

[rigid musk]

My mod is compatible with SVE and has an integrated event, but god it was awful-

hey I kNoW that

But most people want their npcs to live IN the town

I'm actually wondering how I'll handle Honey warping from their orchard to the town

That's a problem for future me, I'm currently working on adding a little museum map for Qi .... but future me does want to work on that apple orchard mod pretty bad

(I just don't want to texture 10 trees... and 10 apples... and many apple related dishes)

[vernal crest]

Yes, but mapmaking is still definitely not an essential part of making an NPC

[tidal stone]

idk if i should remove my ocs lizard tail or not i might introduce a version where she's just normal human and one with tail for fantasy lovers

[gentle rose]

every minute I spend debugging map edits makes me want to create a specialty debugging mod to help out with them but that sounds like effort—

[rigid musk]

Not necessarily essential but typically done... my apolocheese

I would use that... I truly would

[tidal stone]

ik might have the character come from central station type beat

[rigid musk]

:3 that's how I'm going to b e doing Honey! Their Orchard is going to be connected via Central Station :D

[gentle rose]

also it would probably involve some sinz-level patching which… idk if I’m ready for though there’s only one way to find out

[calm nebula]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[calm nebula]

none of it is hard

some of it is is tedious

[rigid musk]

I have no clue what those words mean Iro, but I believe in you

[tidal stone]

i wonder if the mod author would allow me to have a mention of central station if i have my character go to and from the bus / train ill have to ask

[rigid musk]

Pathos I think 100% supports that

i think

[gentle rose]

pathos is okay with mentions of central station but asks you don’t spoil too much of the lore

afaik

[tidal stone]

07

[gentle rose]

basically, acknowledging it exists is fine (you can even add tourists to the random tourists that show up and give them special dialogue!)

[tidal stone]

ooo

im thinking i could use central station to make a different location that is where her house is

[unique sigil]

adding to this, @tidal stone CS's documents have a lore guideline you should refer to if you want to do CS mentions

[vernal crest]

Ok I really do have to go to bed but @rigid musk maybe it is relevant that Qi only has a DesertFestival_2 schedule while Sandy only has a DesertFestival schedule? Maybe you tested their schedules on different years and that matters somehow???? IDK

[tidal stone]

ooo ok

[rigid musk]

Rest well Aba!

[tidal stone]

I wonder if i could design a small neighborhood near a station that you can explore as a map that i can slowly add my ocs to or if that would be agony 🤔

[unique sigil]

if the idea hasnt been realized (e.g. you havent made a sketch of the map, or invested more time in the design) imo there's little point in asking "is this worth doing/will this be worth my time and effort"

why dont you try and see?

(fwiw, it's what this channel is for, assisting you on more technical stuff you have difficulty with)

[vernal crest]

I always think it's worth putting at least a bit of time into any interesting idea because that's how you find out what you like to do. I know what parts of Stardew modding I enjoy the most because I've tried most of it.

[rigid musk]

I agree, you never know if you'll like something or have fun doing something if you just... never do it or constantly wonder if it's worth it

You should also do it for yourself, otherwise you think too much about what other people want and it ends up not being fun

I'm adding stuff to my mods because I want to and I don't really care what other people think all that much. If they like it they like it and that's really cool, but overall? It's for me because I want to see it in game and that's what matters

(and im mostly having fun... mostly... )

[unique sigil]

its why these kinds of things are called passion projects. your passion quite literally is the driver

making stuff for the sake of popularity or others approval is pointless and draining, rather than making stuff for the sake of having fun or just to be creative

[gentle rose]

FINE I’ll start working on one of the million ideas I have at some point today no need to keep pressuring me /lh

[unique sigil]

or maybe just to expand your horizons (i have 0 coding experience, or any game modding experience, before this lol)

[gentle rose]

I’ll make a mod that figures out who your favourite npc is and ick-ifies them

[rigid musk]

:(

[unique sigil]

anyone can cook and all but i cook for me first and foremost >:)

(which is funny because i still dont really use my own mods)

[rigid musk]

Mod authors... playing the game?... with their own mods? Blasphemous

[gentle rose]

I assume you also don’t eat all the food you make for fun though sometimes the making is the fun part

[rigid musk]

I usually make mods for things I want in the game which means I end up using them... when... if I actually play the game

I would imagine it's hard for you to use every single mod you make Kisaa considering you make a lot of farm maps... that's a lot of farms to play

[gentle rose]

(this is a concept I had to work through when I was doing crafty things - I used to believe you should only make things you like, but gradually I realised sometimes the hobby/enjoyable part is the making and that’s okay)

[tidal stone]

!Map

aw theres not a thing for it

[gentle rose]

I make a lot of things I consider ugly (tatted lace, anyone?) but I like making them

[flat sluice]

!mapmaking

[rigid musk]

It's fun to make things even if you don't use them indeed.. it's also good for improvement (I think more specifically in the art category of things with that - sometimes drawing poses or whatever is not exactly what I want to do or like, but it's good in the long run)

[ocean sail]

If you want to make mods that add or edit maps:

1. Use Tiled to edit .tmx or .tbin files.

2. Refer to the Maps wiki page for details on how maps work in Stardew Valley.

3. Content Patcher allows you to create custom locations through editing Data/Locations

4. Vanilla Maps can be edited via Content Patcher as well: EditMap

To use this command, type !mapmaking.

[rigid musk]

I just tend to end up having ideas for things and making things that I also want to use which is why I usually have them in my game

[tidal stone]

im using modding stardew as a way to get better at doing artsy stuff

[unique sigil]

i can just go make more saves. ez pz

[rigid musk]

Seven billion farms

[tidal stone]

ty

[unique sigil]

(on a more serious note, i agree on the making being the fun part it is after all why i post like 4 big maps back to back in the span of 2 months)

until i got bored, decided to expand my horizons, fucked around with farmhouses, and now here i am neck deep in a furniture pack. what a ride lmao

[rigid musk]

Farmhouse -> furniture .. interesting pipeline

[gentle rose]

built a house and is now furnishing it

sensible order, really

[rigid musk]

I started modding with Custom Furniture actually, I realized that I had the power

and then I made gunther and morris into furniture

[lucid iron]

Can i have gil chair on me farm

[rigid musk]

maybe I should make a content patcher version of that -

[lucid iron]

Gil included

[rigid musk]

I think I did it to Gil too

I did

[unique sigil]

see i expected myself to stick to my lane of maps and tilesheets. i never thought id be a "real" aesthetic modder until i made cozy rustic kitchen and it grew out of control

[rigid musk]

Sticking to one thing with modding? never (some people do but also-)

Idk how they do that honestly, it's so tempting to just try and make other things

[unique sigil]

yeah i really want to diversify my skillset

im already delving into machine code with furniture machines - am making a custom coffee/tea maker with the furniture pack. bye bye AT on vanilla coffee machine

[rigid musk]

I literally used nearly everything I knew how to do in my Qi mod... and then a bunch of stuff I didn't know how to do as well

what's that? I learned how to make weapons? guess ill do that too yippie

[unique sigil]

i do know what i never want to do though: NPC and dialogue. i dont want to be in a jack of all trades master of none situation so to say

[rigid musk]

I actually enjoy writing dialogue it's fun

(i think that's kind of obvious considering Qi's i18n document is mostly dialogue and it's over 1.5k lines)

[unique sigil]

no matter where modding venues i go you'll know me as the maps guy

[tidal stone]

idk how writing dialogue is gonna go for me but im just going to be excited to read it in game

[unique sigil]

(funny thing is im a writer, i just dont want to do dialogue mods for stardew)

[rigid musk]

It is honestly super cool when things work and you can see them working and interact with it in game...

I remember being so elated when I could give Qi gifts and he would actually respond I thought it was really cool

Being able to place furniture I made in game is also super cool, just... boom I made that chair, I can now sit in that chair, and decorate my house, with, that, chair

[unique sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-alive-gif-11205409

[tidal stone]

real im gonna be so psyched to see my ocs in game XD

[unique sigil]

me when my code works first try

[rigid musk]

Me when Qi moved around for the first time in game...

Me when I spent three days adding all of the marriage stuff to the game and I only had to add like six commas and everything actually worked

can never escape the missing commas unfortunately

[tidal stone]

my only problem rn after i make the map i want to make is which oc im gonna make first 😔
I got too many ideas

i might try and do them in sections at the same time

[unique sigil]

one at a time

NPCs have lots of components so tackle it bit by bit

[tidal stone]

thats true

[unique sigil]

(and if youve never made a map for stardew before, that is also going to take a while because you need to learn a whole new program on top of CP coding stuff)

[tidal stone]

oof ok then step one get the map done will give me time to decide XD

[rigid musk]

Making a map was one of my big milestones... and also my biggest mod because apparently everyone also wanted a grove for berries

[lucid iron]

All i do is make C# spaget and occasionally map

I can already tell that pixel art is beyond me

[rigid musk]

Hey I thought that at one point too and now look at me ... making passable pixel art B)

(im still going to commission Pau to do Honey's portraits though, I don't want to do those)

hehe Hi Pau i see the reaction

[tidal stone]

i might end up using the loft mod lol XD just so i can get a handle on making npcs and then work on a map in the background

thanks for all the good points you guys :3c

and the help with getting the resources 😄

[calm nebula]

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1345385194831482953 oops

lol

maybe k is a bad default

[rigid musk]

lmao that's amazing

[calm nebula]

...I'm gonna upload the version that prevents text boxes from triggering it

[rigid musk]

I'll have to keep that in mind though.. if it makes time go faster 👀

[calm nebula]

and then also make the default the End button

[rigid musk]

I could really use NPCs getting to their damn locations faster QI

[unique sigil]

this is a mood, i used to complain at a 16x16 px canvas being too small. smash cut to my furniture pack which has like 70 something 1x1 tile decor items

[rigid musk]

mm little decor items... I love them

Hard to make? yes. fun to use? yes

[unique sigil]

its fun and validating to see oneself actively improving

[rigid musk]

Sometimes it's hard to see your improvement until you look back on the stuff you made in the past ... then you can see 'oh wow yeah I made a lot of progress'

[unique sigil]

i still complain about taller objects though, having to squish my blender sprites is painful (i ended up turning it into a blender-on-a-counter item)

[rigid musk]

It's why I still have a lot of my art from 2014-2016... I get to look at it and be like 'yeah i can actually draw now okay time to stop being so harsh on myself'

You know.. Qi would be the type of person to keep one of those radioactive fiesta plates

(im trying to think of artifacts to put in his little museum thing)

[calm nebula]

anyways, looking forward to the stats dump later today

or tomorrow

or maybe pathos did it already when I was asleep

[rigid musk]

it looks like he did it around 10 CST yesterday

[calm nebula]

ooh!

[rigid musk]

[calm nebula]

yay open source tracking fixes!

[lucid iron]

+3 xnb

[calm nebula]

anyways, uploaded the fix to to eventtester

that fixes the stupid issue with the fast forward key in menus

[unique sigil]

the +3 xnb mods concrern me

[calm nebula]

smh nexus making me find my login

[gentle rose]

knew it had to be a bad keybind any way to just make it not trigger when a menu is open?

[unique sigil]

but at least we dont really have the "really old cp format for mysterious reasons" mods anymore??

[calm nebula]

I just check to see if a textbox has focus

it's now moved to a far away key by default too

[gentle rose]

+3 XNB also, now I’m curious if the smapi website fully moved away from mongo at some point and if so, what it uses now

[gentle rose]

sounds like a good solution to me

[scarlet saddle]

istg I just want to make this work and idk what I'm doing wrong https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/fa70d24f4e7443f2abbb0b69efa1a06c

I guess I just leave the wizard's rune circle non animated jshfshj

[lucid iron]

I think you need a EditData

Not editimage

[scarlet saddle]

well goddamnit

that- I swear I tried that before

Thank you xD

[brittle ledge]

Who put this together?

[scarlet saddle]

gahhhh "[Content Patcher] Ignored Celestial Wizard's Tower - Animated > Magic Circle: must set the FromFile field for a Load patch."

so it validated, but that didn't do any good xD

[lucid iron]

What did you change to a Load

[upbeat stratus]

hey quick question, ive got this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/12786
and the code is:
"Changes": [

    {
        "Action": "EditImage",
        "PatchMode": "Overlay",
        "Target": "Characters/Krobus",
        "FromFile": "assets/KrobusWednesday.png",
        "When": {
            "DayOfWeek": "Wednesday"
        }
    },
            {
        "Action": "EditImage",
        "PatchMode": "Overlay",
        "Target": "Characters/Krobus_Trenchcoat",
        "FromFile": "assets/KrobusPinkTrenchcoat.png",
        "When": {
            "DayOfWeek": "Wednesday"

and so on
how do i make it so it works every day of the week? instead of just wendsday

[lucid iron]

Remove DayOfWeek Wednesday

[upbeat stratus]

it wont interfer with when?

[lucid iron]

Including the whole When block around it

[upbeat stratus]

oh ok then

i knew id be simple

[scarlet saddle]

I didn't think I changed anything to a load? I just changed EditImage to EditData

[upbeat stratus]

thank you

[lucid iron]

Post whole json again?

[scarlet saddle]

    "$schema": "https://smapi.io/schemas/content-patcher.json",
    "ConfigSchema": {
        "MagicCircle": {
            "AllowValues": "true,false",
            "Default": "true",
            "AllowMultiple": false
        }
    },
"Format": "2.5.0",
"Changes": [     
        {
        "LogName": "Magic Circle",
        "Action": "EditImage",
        "Target": "spacechase0.SpaceCore/TextureOverrides",
        "When": {
            "MagicCircle": "true",
            "LocationName": "Custom_WizardBasement, WizardHouse"},
        "Update": "OnLocationChange",
        "Entries": {
            "Pixie.SVEWIZANIM_MagicCircle": {
                "TargetTexture": "Mods\\FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP\\TileSheets/townInterior",
                "TargetRect": {
                    "X": 369,
                    "Y": 376,
                    "Width": 48,
                    "Height": 48
                    },
                "SourceTexture": "{{InternalAssetKey: assets/magiccircle.png}}:0..10@3"
                }
            }
        }
       
    ]
}```

[lucid iron]

You don't have further includes here?

!log post log too

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[lucid iron]

Also it occurred to me that you are trying to animate a map tile, it's probably easier if you do EditMap with an animated tmx actually

[scarlet saddle]

oh x.x

Okay that's probably where my trouble is then. I thought I could just spacecore animate it like an object xD

[lucid iron]

It might work i never tried

I still feel like the actual thing causing u error is something else

[scarlet saddle]

yeah, if it IS possible I'm not doing it right, lol

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/LivestockBazaar/blob/main/[CP] Buy All Vanilla Animals/data/bazaar.json#L31

[scarlet saddle]

I guess I need to figure out how to deal with tmxs

[lucid iron]

This mod patches in a 2 tile tall tmx that is animated

[scarlet saddle]

Okay, thank you!

[lucid iron]

[[modding:maps]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[lucid iron]

The usual map editor is tiled

[scarlet saddle]

yeah I downloaded tiled and poked around a bit

[patent lance]

@calm nebula: take a look (16h ago)

[rare orbit]

Kk! Send me a dm whenever you can!

[pale pecan]

Hi! Apologies if this is question with a super obvious answer, but why are locations in-game split between StardewValley.Locations and StardewValley.GameLocation? I'm finding it really straightforward to reference any locations specified in the former but less immediately obvious for the latter and I am curious how they differ especially since both are stored from what it looks like in Locations.json content wise

[brittle pasture]

GameLocation is the class
Locations is a namespace containing child classes of GameLocation

[lucid iron]

If you don't give a class in Data/Location then u get GameLocation as it is as the class

[pale pecan]

Okay gotcha! That makes sense, ty!

(also just realized that getting GameLocations should just be Game1.getLocationFromName(name) I think so good on that front)

[tacit moth]

Hi, does anyone know where can i find the sky tilesheet that you see at the summit?

[uncut viper]

like the blue sky itself or the like, mountain panorama

[tacit moth]

The panorama

[uncut viper]

thats just in Cursors then

[tacit moth]

Thanks

[lucid iron]

i have so many questions why is this check needed

[brittle pasture]

cant have baby ponies, day ruined

[uncut viper]

horses are npcs

[lucid iron]

are they ever in a position to fufill the other conditions of pregnant tho

can i marry my hors

[uncut viper]

if youre iterating over every npc checking all of them i imagine you dont wanna count the horse

[gentle rose]

CA predicted the risks of putting something on the internet and decided if you're going to go that route he'll at least make you have to use a transpiler

[crude plank]

Unless the player is also a horse, we're talking more like baby centaurs

[spiral lion]

Hello!
I´m making a new mod, including changes in the town map.
Does anyone know how to make custom tiles sittable?

[tacit moth]

It is not a tile property

You have to make a json file

And i dont really know how

[spiral lion]

oh okay 🙂

[tacit moth]

I found this on the modding wiki

[rigid musk]

not sure how to help you but this is really pretty!

[tacit moth]

I hope it would help

[sour sleet]

this looks so cool

[tacit moth]

The tilesheets are so preety. I'm so excited for this mod!

[spiral lion]

Thanks everyone! ❤️
This is the first mod I make so i hope it will turn out good, but it takes a long time.. hahah

I saw that on the wiki, but did not really understand what to do 😮

[tacit moth]

Add this to your content.json:

"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/ChairTiles",
"Entries": {
//chairs
"{Tilesheet name}/{x tile}/{y tile}": "{width in tiles}/{height in tiles}/{direction}/{type}/{draw tile x}/{draw tile y}/{is seasonal}",
},```
Example:
```{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/ChairTiles",
"Entries": {
//chairs
"custom_tilesheet/3/1": "1/1/down/chair/-1/-1/false",
}```

Hope this will make you understand!

[spiral lion]

thank you!!! 🙂

[lucid iron]

(you can surround code blocks with 3 `)

like this

[rancid musk]

Thought: I should let people swap to the standard game menu if one is available when a mod's tab implementation throws an error.

[blissful panther]

That's... actually a super cool idea, yeah.

[rancid musk]

Might even put out a testing release for other modders to poke at later today with how this is coming together.

[lucid iron]

better game menu real

[rancid musk]

I'd want to get some of the bigger mods that mess with the game menu with support in time for the initial release.

[lucid iron]

are you specifically interested in people who add new tabs (uiis2, ferngill simple econ)

or just anyone who touches the menu

[rancid musk]

Yes.

lol

As an example, this breaks Generic Mod Config Menu as GMCM looks specifically for GameMenu to find an OptionsPage to insert its button.

So I'm going to need to either bother casey or add specific GMCM stuff.

[lucid iron]

gmcm tab would be nice

[rancid musk]

For now I'm more concerned about not breaking existing things than mods adding additional tabs.

I still haven't implemented any sort of tab overflow protection.

[latent mauve]

!converters

[ocean sail]

These community tools help update mods to newer formats or frameworks:

• Convert to Content Patcher from Custom Furniture, Better Farm Animal Variety (BFAV), Custom Music, JSON Assets, More than Necessary (MTN), SAAT, Shop Tile Framework (STF), TMXLoader, or XNB.
• Convert to other frameworks:
  • Pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
  • Visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
  • Hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
  • Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
  • Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Other tools:
  • Extract i18n for a Content Patcher pack
  • Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
  • Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode

To use this command, type !converters.

[gentle rose]

Also, if you're planning on uploading it, you need to make sure the permissions allow it. Otherwise personal use only please.

[latent mauve]

Typically folks here will not do it entirely for you, especially if we don't know if the mod even has open permissions (or if it's actually yours), but you can look at the resources above and ask questions if you get stuck

[red heath]

sry im new to all of modding

the converter doesnt work for me is the problem

[latent mauve]

Okay, what isn't working in the converter?

That gives us a better direction to help with 🙂

[red heath]

i tried evrything but i just cant get it to work

the two in and output folders are missing

[gentle rose]

(I meant uploading it to nexus, sorry! sending here for help is a grey zone but nobody would be too offended)

[naive wyvern]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_Sitting_to_Custom_Map_Chairs
Youll want to read through this

[red heath]

ok thanks

[uncut viper]

(if its on nexus then sending the raw files here too isnt really a gray zone its just not permitted)

[latent mauve]

Have you looked at using this to run the converter? https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/20986

[red heath]

nope but ill definitly trie it

[latent mauve]

Some folks find that GUI a bit easier 🙂

[gentle rose]

(I meant more that most people would forgive it if it's necessary in order to ask for help, but actually you're right, that should be discouraged too)

[red heath]

Microsoft defender tells me its a virus... is it safe to use?

[latent mauve]

Yes, it's safe. It was developed by Pillow, the same person who made the other converters.

[red heath]

okay thx

[latent mauve]

Nexus has also virus scanned it on their website already

[gentle rose]

(does pillow know it gets flagged?)

[latent mauve]

(Defender flags almost everything now, tbh)

[gentle rose]

(oh I'm pretty sure I immediately disable it or something haha)

[blissful panther]

*insert friendly reminder that you can view the VirusTotal report Nexus uses for files*

[gentle rose]

oh, I didn't know that!

[red heath]

Sorry for asking again but i got this error mesage "this converter is not compatible with you game install"

[latent mauve]

What version of the game are you running? Gamepass, Steam, GoG, etc?

And are you on SDV 1.6.15 or a different one?

[red heath]

Steam the newst

[lucid iron]

i thught pillow converter is not a mod

[latent mauve]

It should be a standalone application, yes

However based on the logs people have submitted, it does look for a game application file?

@iron ridge when you have a moment, would you be willing to chime in?

Even if it's just to point to the GitHub to file an error report

[red heath]

so should i just give up for now?

[latent mauve]

Are you able to get the error log from the converter?

[red heath]

i can try

[red heath]

i cant find it sry

[tidal stone]

ok i made a basic sprite sheet now to try and follow the tutorials to victory 😎

on the sprite sheets

is the um alternate ones needed? like beach and winter

or can I jsut use a basic one thats just the spring dance marriage outfit kissing sprite and walking ones

[latent mauve]

Screenshot what happens when you run the converter and select the manifest

[red heath]

@latent mauve

[latent mauve]

And you definitely picked the manifest.json file and not the TMX?

Just trying to make sure I understand

[latent mauve]

Ok

If you hit Convert anyway, nothing happens, right?

Or press the arrow

[red heath]

yep

the arrow opens the web page of the converter

that i hav ealready downloaded

[latent mauve]

Ok

[dusk mulch]

looking for feedback in #making-mods-art

oop- is this a bad time

[latent mauve]

No, I'm not really sure what's going on with the converter at this point

I think we need Pillow or someone else who has used it

[dusk mulch]

Well I guess I am making my first mod article

[red heath]

its fine i will just try another time

[dusk mulch]

Can someone test to see if they can see the articles on my mod?

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/31936

[gentle rose]

looks good to me

[dusk mulch]

I want people to be able to see it.

Can you?

[gentle rose]

yeah, I can see it

[dusk mulch]

Huh, alright

Ty!

[tidal stone]

I want to spawn in my character on a random tile just so i can see how they look in the game how do i find the id/location/tile cords for tiles in sdv?

[dusk mulch]

You would use debug mode or tiled.

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/679

[tidal stone]

omg thats so handy!

[dusk mulch]

ikr lol

@gentle rose @odd iris and @brittle ledge I have fixed the manifest, the mod is now working fine again.

BRO WHY IS THERE ONLY 1 COLOR OF SIDEWAYS SIDE TABLE

[rigid musk]

Time to make new tilesheets

it's not that hard to recolor stuff at least!

and tilesheets are actually ridiculously easy to make

[dusk mulch]

lets hope so...

[hard fern]

go look in towninterior_2

[rigid musk]

Iro I may have lied-

[dusk mulch]

i am in that one

[rigid musk]

I'm not actually sure how to fix... that actually

[dusk mulch]

i found more

ty

[rigid musk]

SVE removes the Oasis from the desert festival map

which im kind of confused about because how does sandy get there 😭

[hard fern]

magic

duh

[gentle rose]

do we know why it does that?

[rigid musk]

well the Oasis is moved so that's probably why? but... like

[gentle rose]

sve does have a sandy warp room but idk if it can be used in schedules without being explicitly mentioned

[hard fern]

[rigid musk]

[hard fern]

oh yeah for some reason discord gave me random free nitro?

so i can just use emotes now.i guess

[dusk mulch]

i wouldnt complain

[gentle rose]

I think selph had the same thing! sounds like they're testing something

[rigid musk]

oh my god she just appeared out of nowhere... this is not helpful SVE why did you do this

[hard fern]

😭 idk why sve does a lot of things

[gentle rose]

my guess is the warp from the oasis to the desert festival still works because why wouldn't it

[rigid musk]

[gentle rose]

but you may have to add a sneaky hidden warp somewhere in the festival

maybe along the road

(npc warp obviously)

[rigid musk]

I could also just... have him stay at the festival for the whole day

SVE just has her coming out from behind here...

[gentle rose]

probably where the oasis' normal exit lines up

[dusk mulch]

WITCHHHH 🫵 🫵 🫵 🫵 🫵 🔥

uhhh.

[ornate locust]

You flipped a couch didn't you

doesn't flip the sit direction

I ran into that one myself

[dusk mulch]

how do i flip the sit direction then

[ornate locust]

well I made a couch seat/arm facing the opposite way and did a custom seat for facing left

Dunno if there's a better way to do it, but that's the only one I found

Annoying because it'll mess up with interior recolors

You might find a tilesheet on the Nexus that's already flipped it

[dusk mulch]

Can I just make a tilesheet property for that tile with the direction "Left"?

[ornate locust]

Well... you see how the couch arm is appearing over you in the wrong direction too?

[dusk mulch]

Yeah

[ornate locust]

that's part of the sitting

[dusk mulch]

Oh...

Well I guess 1 chair can be fine...

[ornate locust]

yeah it'll still face the wrong way if just you are facing left

[dusk mulch]

Found a left facing chair

I don't care if they are mismatched.

I can just change the one on the left

...

There is no right facing red chair.

[ornate locust]

You see why this annoyed me

[dusk mulch]

Yeah.

Whatever, they can be mismatched.

[calm nebula]

can you not set the sitting direction for those chairs to "flipped"

or does it not flip the armrest

[ornate locust]

it does not flip the armrest

[calm nebula]

lovely

okay

[ornate locust]

At least it sure didn't when I tried it

[hard fern]

this is why you put the flipped chair somewhere the player can't reach

[tidal stone]

how do i know how to space out the brackets when ending a json file?

[lucid iron]

are you using a text editor with support

[tidal stone]

im using notepad

what text editor do you suggest?

[hot gale]

VS Code :D

[hard fern]

notepad

[dusk mulch]

notepad++

[tidal stone]

OMG it has colors

[ornate locust]

Honestly tempted to just make a tileset mod that adds flipped versions of seats. Surely that exists, right??

[latent mauve]

I ran into this with the apartments, actually

(the lack of armchairs/couches facing the right or left)

[ornate locust]

if it doesn't exist, I'm making the damn thing

[calm nebula]

in two weeks: "midnight voyager's right-facing chairs" hits Nexus

"with recolor compat!"

[ornate locust]

I'll do recolors 100%, i did it for the one blue couch I flipped

[crude plank]

Do any of you smart people here know why Love of Cooking and Cooking Overhaul would be incompatible?

[ornate locust]

but first I wanna make sure it doesn't exist somewhere

[dusk mulch]

calling me a smart person is dangerous

[calm nebula]

Hi! Dumb here. They sound like they override the same menus

[crude plank]

afaik Cooking overhauls just adjusts the prices of the dishes that's why i'm confused

[tidal stone]

How would one close a json file using vs code

[crude plank]

but if it also overrides the menu that makes sense

[tidal stone]

like does it auto space it with these lines

[dusk mulch]

now i need 1 more style/personality...

.choose Old, Nerd, Mayor

[patent lance]

Choose result: Mayor

[dusk mulch]

Okay then

[crude plank]

i see how it overrides the menu

thanks atra!

[calm nebula]

I wouldn't know for sure

[crude plank]

having the idea of menu override in mind while reading the description again, it clicked

[ornate locust]

Alright I can't find anything like that, I'm doing it

already have blue couch done for my other mod, let's go

[rancid musk]

Added a developer mode flag to this. The "Try Again" button if a menu errors only shows with developer mode on, and the tooltips on each tab has some additional info that might be useful. Including a draw timer for the current page.

[rigid musk]

if you move where this is, you could use the downward facing black chair instead

[dusk mulch]

It's fine, I am working on the next house already anyway

[rigid musk]

this one...

such is life I suppose

[tidal stone]

my content json is telling me i put a , in the wrong spot but idk where else to put it, can i post a picture for help?

[rigid musk]

log + the json would be helpful

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/6e8fa779a5994b939667d194d846ca68

[lucid iron]

where is your "Changes": []

or is this just partial

[tidal stone]

Oop i dont know where that goes i need to go back and look at the tutorial again then

[ornate locust]

okay, here's what I'm doing: I am going to flip couches. I am also going to do backward couches. There's already backward couches in "furniture" but they are shaded differently. I will try to fix this so you can tilesheet the same couch in all four directions. I may try to flip the TV backwards too, there's a smaller TV I can use for reference and I really found myself wanting a backwards TV. Sideways TV, will try that too.

because I really wanted all of these things when I was making a map

[lucid iron]

{
  "Format": "2.5.0",
  "Changes": [
      {
        "LogName": "Blank JSON load",
        "Action": "Load",
        "Target": "Characters/Dialogue/GummyKandi, Characters/schedules/GummyKandi, Strings/schedules/GummyKandi",
        "FromFile": "assets/data/blank.json"
      },
  ]
}

content.json looks like this

if its an included json, remove "Format": "2.5.0",

[ornate locust]

No promises, but does anything want anything flipped on a tileset that cannot be flipped properly in tiled?

[rancid musk]

I think casey might not hate me for the PR this is going to take to add Better Game Menu to GMCM. ```csharp
// somewhere
try {
var api = Helper.ModRegistery.GetApi<IBetterGameMenuApi>("leclair.bettergamemenu");
api.OnPageInstantiated += BGM_OnPageInstantiated;
} catch (Exception ex) {
// oh no
}

// later
private void BGM_OnPageInstantiated(object? sender, (IClickableMenu Menu, string Tab, string Source, IClickableMenu Page, IClickableMenu? OldPage) e) {
if (e.Page is OptionsPage page)
page.options.Add(new OptionsButton(I18n.Button_ModOptions(), () => this.OpenListMenuNew()));
}```

[tidal stone]

ooooh, ty ty

[rancid musk]

Still not sure if I want to keep to tuples or add an interface for the different events.

I suppose the real test is that I need to make sure pintail isn't going to make interfaces stupid

[dusk mulch]

god i am terrified to make the 3-4 NPC's

[ornate locust]

I am going to do the whole couch flipped because the shadowing is slightly different on right facing vs left facing

[rigid musk]

I am... resisting the urge to continue updating mods instead of actually playing the game

[urban patrol]

back at it again with this swing animation 😭 i finally got the offset coords correct, but the swing is still in front no matter where the schedule coordinates end

animation: "edwin_swingset": "23/23/23//laying_down/offset -8 -36",
schedule: 1400 Town 15 13 2 edwin_swingset

town 15 13 is the tile below the swing

[lucid iron]

@ivory umbra I believe i fixed all the HarvestTo TinkerInventory stuff back in TrinketTinker-1.5.5 but since I am release 1.5.6 soon™️ it'd be good if you could try it in case there are remaining bugs around that area

[brittle ledge]

Okay so the issue is that the bottom of the swing is on the Front layer (which layers in front of the farmer if they're up from it but behind them if they're down from it) so I was hoping putting the farmer's standing tile down from the swing would work :/ So at that point I think you'd need to edit the map itself to put the bottom of the swing on Buildings with Passable set to T (so that people can actually stand on/walk through that tile). Or you can just put it to Buildings with no Passable T, but then you wouldn't be able to walk through it.

Alternately, you could see if you can sit them on the springy ride in the back, the head and tail are on Front but you should be able to sandwich between them with offsets.

[urban patrol]

interesting, i'll try that! is Passable a thing i implement through TileData, or?

[brittle ledge]

It's a tile property but I'm not too familiar with how to do it in Tiled since I've only done it in CP 😅 I think you'd have to use Tiled to move something to a different layer though.

So yeah, it's doable in Tiled, I just don't know specifically how.

[urban patrol]

do you have it handy in CP, then? i'm not picky, i can stick it in my map json!

[brittle ledge]

Uhh I just did this in Little Free Library, one sec

        {
            "Action": "EditMap",
            "Target": "Maps/Town",
            
            "MapTiles": [
                {
                    "Position": {
                        "X": 73,
                        "Y": 91
                    },
                    "Layer": "Back",
                    "SetProperties": {
                        "Passable": "T"
                    }
                },
            ]
        },```

[urban patrol]

"jorts stop destroying the LFLs" LMAO

thank you very much!

[sour sleet]

When wanting to spawn a random mineral each day for example, is there a faster way to do it than listing EVERY single mineral? Like will a context tag work with FTM?

[brittle ledge]

I think you can, yeah But I'm not super familiar with FTM. Wouldn't hurt to try it and see!

[sour sleet]

Yea I guess I will just try and see. Thought only item IDs were allowed but I wanna test it

[tidal stone]

oh wrong channel hold on oopsies

[sour sleet]

No, the context tag doesn't seem to work in an area with FTM. It seems to want an object ID or name

Looks like I'm manually typing item IDs for the next hour

[brittle ledge]

@royal stump would that be a possible feature for FTM at some point, to add spawns via context tag?

[lusty elm]

When i was making the list for the bat cave via ftm I had to type out all the fruits took a while

[sour sleet]

Yes that would be awesome Esca

[lucid iron]

i think what you actually want is an item query

https://gist.github.com/spacechase0/35453e1e7a0593d8d4f00246c1dd3990

its a thing spacecore supports at least, if u want to use that instead

[sour sleet]

Gonna stick with FTM for this mod as I've done the rest of my mod with it

[royal stump]

making a note to look into that, but I'm not sure if it's reasonable with FTM's current system, so it might need to wait until I finish trigger actions
(more or less what spacecore does, afaik)

I might be able to get it to add every matching item to the forage lists based on tags/query stuff in general, but I forget how the code looks there

[lusty elm]

FTM 2.0 new feature get /j

[royal stump]

I'll be arbitrarily calling it 2.0 once this is done, so yeah

new features will probably show up in trigger format before I figure out how to overhaul content packs

[hot gale]

Anyone know where I can get a perfected save for the current version? Need it for testing purposes

[brittle pasture]

there's a console command to get perfection

[hot gale]

I mean moreso with everything unlocked/completed etc does the command do that or just give you the perfection achievement or w/e

[lucid iron]

ask mr ape for his perfection safe

prob more important to know what it is that you are hoping to test though

cjp cheats has a bunch of options to unlock various things if u need

[brittle pasture]

perfection

Makes a variety of changes to qualify for Perfection. These include maxing all friendships, marking all fish as caught, awarding and marking complete all cooking and crafting recipes, marking all items as shipped, setting the flags for all stardrops, setting all skill levels to 10, awarding 500 kills for all monsters, forcibly placing all 4 obelisks and the gold clock in the upper left corner of the farm, and giving 130 walnuts.

[hot gale]

Cool

[rotund elm]

Heyo, is it not possible to have 2 of the same GSQ in a conditions field? like LOCATION_NAME Here Beach and LOCATION_NAME Here Town? I am trying to make location specific treasure loot with Item Extensions for context : )

[tiny zealot]

my face when i tried making a bench for scheduled sitting only to encounter the Front problem, so i checked The Bench in town and found out none of it is on Front, and that's why the bushes are behind it (so you can't walk back there and discover the deception)

[brittle pasture]

add a comma between them for AND

use ANY for OR

[brittle ledge]

Yeah, NPCs don't always seem to obey Front either, I've had Wren clip into things when sitting

[rotund elm]

OHHH, so because I used the comma it is checking for both names not one or the other I see my mistake, thank you Selph!!!!

[vernal crest]

Can someone please check my logic for why the following bit of code allows the event ID to be logged once for each event rather than just running once or running forever?

I think it's because this.LastEvent = Game1.CurrentEvent; sets LastEvent to the CurrentEvent value while the event is running which stops the code inside the if statement from running more than once during the event. Then, during the first tick after the event ends, Game1.CurrentEvent becomes null and passes that to this.LastEvent so that the next time an event runs LastEvent is null again. That makes the if statement return true and the event ID logging line runs once more.

Is that right?

        private void OnUpdateTicked(object sender, UpdateTickedEventArgs e)
        {
            if (this.LastEvent == null && Game1.CurrentEvent != null)
            {
                this.Monitor.Log($"Event {Game1.CurrentEvent.id} is running!", LogLevel.Debug);   
            }
            this.LastEvent = Game1.CurrentEvent;
        }

[tiny zealot]

yes

[modern sinew]

does anyone know what version of .net that smapi and sdv use?

[tiny zealot]

.net 6
you are free to install a newer SDK than that, but you have to target 6 when building

[modern sinew]

ok, thanks

[hot gale]

Is this viable or should they be separate insertions

[lucid iron]

this is fine

[hot gale]

Sweet, ty

[tidal stone]

does anyone know how i specify what emotion goes with what sentence when doing dialogue for npcs?

[tiny zealot]

end the dialogue line with e.g. $1, where the number is an index in the portrait sheet.
the first six indexes (0-5) also have letter aliases to match the "standard" positions

[tidal stone]

OOoooooh

[tiny zealot]

typically portraits are two columns, laid out like this:

2  3
4  5```
and so on

if you are creating the NPC, you are also writing the dialogue, and i believe there are no remaining forced portrait indexes, so you can lay them out however you want and decide which portrait to use in every case; but $0 is the default for most dialogue, and gift tastes have defaults corresponding to default positions like "happy" and "sad"

you can decide for yourself whether you want to use (e.g.) $h or $1 for "happy", although if you use h you had better put your happy portrait in index 1 /lh

[brittle ledge]

It's also a good idea to put 1 as your happy and 2 as your sad because I believe the gift tastes default to those (and also 5 for angry iirc) - you can override that in 1.6 now though so it's not required

I would also recommend just making a habit of using $1 and $2, etc. instead of $h and $s, etc because it's more consistent, especially with vanilla NPCs that don't have a full set of six

[rancid musk]

Pintail please just cooperate

I think I've got everything I need for a preview release of Better Game Menu done now, but I want to mess with the API until it's in a state where making some minor changes won't completely break everything because Pintail gets mad

[rotund elm]

Heyo. This should be enough to make water tiles fishable no? For some reason my beach patch's water is not fishable and I cannot understand why?! it is driving me slightly crazy XD

[lucid iron]

you have fish data there?

[rotund elm]

The water Tiles are on the back tile layer, there is no other properties given. I tried patch reload when updating the map and restarting the game

For the patch?

I didn't know that would be needed.......

Since I use the patch for the Beach map I assumed the fish data would be applied to it automatically

[calm nebula]

You shouldn't need fish data....there is a default

[rotund elm]

Is it possibly the way I am patching it>

I am using the Replace patchmode

[calm nebula]

Should be fine

Hopefully

[rotund elm]

I am battling unseen forces then XD

[calm nebula]

Unless your tilesheetdata is weird

[latent mauve]

If you are patching over an existing map, is it possible the fish area is weird because of the Data/Locations entry for the base map if you have changed where the water is located?

[rotund elm]

Tilesheet data looks fine, and as for the patch one sec and Ill share a ss of the location

[calm nebula]

Use LookupAnything and query the status of the tile

Aslo, does the water overlay show up

Also, do you have a rile on the Buildings layer

[rotund elm]

heres where the patch goes and let me check

I do know nothing is on the building layer besides the edge of the bridge itself

water overlay shows normally, as for query the status of the tile I am not sure I understand

I have the tile pulled up in LookupAnything

[latent mauve]

Screenshot it?

[latent mauve]

I think that says that tile has something on the Buildings later

So it would be obstructed from fishing in that case

Look up a tile where you are attempting to land your bobber

[rotund elm]

data mining fields only say there is a tile on the back layer

oh wait I think it shows that anyway let me double check the map in tiled again

Yea nothing on the buildings layer or buildings2 layer over the water itself

for patch export is it just patch export maps/beach

[calm nebula]

Any tile on buildings will cause issuss

Don't do that

[latent mauve]

It could be an invisible tile

Which will still break it

[rotund elm]

there is none besides the edge of the bridge, unless you're saying because there is tiles on the building later at all,it is messing with the water tiles

thats the patch export and yes I did forget to turn off my recolor mod please don't hate me XD

[latent mauve]

I'm not at my computer right now, what is tile index 76 on the spring_beach tilesheet?

I can't go through and count out the indexes right now since I am not at my computer

[rotund elm]

I got you let me find it rq XD

It is a empty tile so completely transparent

[latent mauve]

Okay, so an invis tile

Run your eraser over the water in your Buildings layer to wipe that out. (Or you might be able to select same tile?)

Annoyingly, those will obstruct water interactions even though they are not visible

They are just tricky to find and remove

[rotund elm]

Bless you, I completely forgot to look for those

When I remember I just draw on the invisible tiles in aseprite for the tilesheet I want to check and then they show, but I completely spaced

Well it is working perfectly now XD thank you both for the assistance

ABA NO

You saw nothing

[vernal crest]

You can use "Select Same Tile" to highlight all the empty tiles too so if you hold it over the water on your buildings layer and any water tile doesn't go blue there's probably an invisible tile there.

[rotund elm]

Ahhh that is smart to probably way easier than editing the tilesheet in aseprite

[vernal crest]

Symlinks symlinks

[ornate locust]

I got Earthy Interiors and VPR interior compatibility done

temporarily jams some couches in a map testing time

[sour sleet]

Someone was testing my mod for me and they said my NPC was saying "..." if they were gifted certain items. How do I fix this?

Most items work fine it's just a few that do this

[vernal crest]

Were they vanilla items?

[sour sleet]

Yep, one was an apple iirc

[rough lintel]

how to properly write a hasflag statement?

                "HasFlag:currentPlayer": "{{ModId}}_LoveRouteCompleted",
                "spouseRoute": "Haley"
            }``` is this even correct

[ornate locust]

Chairs appear... not sittable. alright, time to figure out why what worked for ONE chair doesn't work for a different chair

[vernal crest]

Can you recreate the behaviour?

[sour sleet]

Currently trying to

Not quite sure what this error means https://smapi.io/log/728a4d65f0cd4c558812dfcb64b10ef2

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 11 C# mods and 13 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[latent mauve]

Looks like your key is empty somehow?

Not sure why your line has the portrait at the front either, that's typically at the end of the line IIRC

Can you share your gift tastes entry?

[sour sleet]

      "LogName": "Gift Tastes",
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/NPCGiftTastes",
      "Entries": {
        "Alice": "$1 Wow, this is my favourite thing!/420 577 221 595/$1 How kind of you!/422 402 400/$2 Um, I don't really like this.../348 346 305 253/Ew, I hate this.../197 766/Thanks.//"
      }
    },

I gave her an apple and she responded "..." and that's when the error displayed

[calm nebula]

Your issue is the $1

$1 at the start of a line is the view once token

Put those at the end like God intended

[sour sleet]

I shall try that now

[gentle rose]

is that why I'm so repelled by content packs? because I'm an atheist? /lh

[sour sleet]

Thanks Atra, that seems to have fixed it. Didn't know it had to go at the end

[dusk mulch]

Well I finished the sprites, now time to do the portraits...

[vernal crest]

It's not just for gift tastes, either. Portrait commands must go at the end of the line in all dialogue.

[sour sleet]

Oh good to know. I might have to go check her dialogue

Just had a quick skim through and I seem to have put it at the front but all of Alice's dialogue works perfectly. It was just the gift giving that seemed to be an issue

[tidal stone]

what does Internal Name mean in reference to NPC's i know there;'s unique id but idk if thats the same

[tiny zealot]

it's the same

[tidal stone]

oh ok

that simplifies things a bit ty

[dusk mulch]

kent with no hair is a nightmare

[tiny zealot]

it's also called "internal name" because for vanilla NPCs (and most custom NPCs before unique string ids were widely supported), the unique id is the same as their english display name. the game expects that unique id when referencing them, so the term "internal name" arose

[tidal stone]

so when i put $1 or another number it makes a money sign and then just the number and doesnt change the portrait is there another part oft e command im missing?

[vernal crest]

Can you show the code for one of the lines that's doing it?

[tidal stone]

sur e one second

[vernal crest]

Only one of those is at the end of the line. The rest are all in the middle, as far as the game is concerned.

[tidal stone]

Ohh so i have to choose one face, ok

[unique sigil]

have you tried ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG Target (context tags here) in the GameStateQueries field of your FTM files?

[dusk mulch]

How the hell do yall do portraits?! they are so hard to do!

[unique sigil]

(unless thats not possible, because i remember from my time doing catalogue data that theres a context tag GSQ. in which case feel free to correct me esca )

[sour sleet]

i ended up just typing them manually, but I will try that next time

[vernal crest]

You can use all of them, you just need #$b# after each one. That will split the dialogue into different boxes where you have to click to get the next line. Or use #$e# to have to talk to the NPC again to get the next line.

[tidal stone]

omg! ty!

[dusk mulch]

Is there any easier way to do portraits? I can NOT do this by hand for any longer

[tidal stone]

if im editing i usually make the bottom layer see through and then draw over top

[dusk mulch]

Omg thats a good idea, ty!

[unique sigil]

oh wait, disregard me, GSQ field is in the spawn condition haha. which means your items spawn WHEN the GSQ is that, so not spawn the items itself. i misread

(apologies i just woke up)

[ornate locust]

Alright side couches work, I just have to figure out what's not working with back couches

[sour sleet]

Not really, they can take a very long time, especially if you want them nice and detailed. If you really can't though, there are a lot of amazing artists you could commission here on discord

[ornate locust]

Filled a room with reversed couches and sat in all them suckers

[unique sigil]

you're making sittable chair tilesheets?

[ornate locust]

You know how some tilesheet couches only face front or to ONE side? I'm doing back/other side for them

And doing a TV that faces up instead of down. I didn't much like the side I put together, but a TV facing up was exactly what I needed when I was making a house, so

[unique sigil]

ahh i see. thats a great idea!

say do you plan on making recolor compatibility for them? because i use a tool made by a friend to automate my recoloring, and more testers are always welcome

[ornate locust]

I actually already did recolors for VPR and Earthy

[unique sigil]

(for future use maybe?)

[ornate locust]

also added in some fire stuff I made and wanted people to be able to use. I'm just hooking them up

Well sure, why not. Maybe there's another recolor I haven't hit yet

[unique sigil]

usually recolor compat for interiors are VPR earthy and starblue! RCTI redraws most of the objects, so i understand if you dont want to add compat for it (i dont, myself)

[unique sigil]

here you go

#1284843685112053883 message

[ornate locust]

Starblue, there we go. I'll try it for that one

[unique sigil]

because of the current manual color picking system, tilesheets are a bit finicky because usually they contain so many objects of varying colors, but since you have mostly couches right now, they should be relatively easy to set a palette for

[ornate locust]

lemme just get the upward couches working right first and I'll give it a shot

[proud wyvern]

i handle it this way

it sucks for development, because the default impl makes it so my code in the providing mod compiles even if i don't have a real implementation

but at least mods that didn't add that member work just fine

[rancid musk]

I'm not even sure why it's refusing to proxy my interfaces, I'm doing like event EventHandler<IPageInstantiatedEvent> OnPageInstantiated; and IPageInstantiatedEvent uses nothing but game types

I haven't tried just making a handler registration function yet because I got pulled into gaming like someone who actually plays games (weird)

[proud wyvern]

yeah i have normal Register methods, i want people to control the priority

without weird attribute shenanigans which wouldn't work across the Pintail boundary anyway

but i don't see why a proper event wouldn't work

[rancid musk]

System.ArgumentException: The EventHandler`1[IPageInstantiatedEvent] interface defines method Invoke which doesn't exist in the API or depends on an interface that cannot be mapped!
vs cs public interface IPageInstantiatedEvent { IClickableMenu Menu { get; } string Tab { get; } string Source { get; } IClickableMenu Page { get; } IClickableMenu? OldPage { get; } }

[proud wyvern]

that does sound like a bug

[rancid musk]

Might have to dust off BreakPintail tomorrow I suppose

I have been specifically passing around IClickableMenu and making people use a TryGetMenu() method to cast it to my interface

Just to minimize the proxying spaghetti Pintail needs to do.

[proud wyvern]

heh yeah... https://github.com/Shockah/Cobalt-Core-Mods/blob/master/Kokoro/APIv2/OnTurnEnd.cs#L15-L27

[latent mauve]

That reminds me, I probably need to do recolor compat for my transparent border beams file for the Pelican Valley Loft Apartments mod. D:

My brain can't parse the recolor tool at the moment

[rancid musk]

I'm also keeping the types as simple as I can because proxied stuff is pretty slow for something I'm going to be making multiple function calls to every frame.

[proud wyvern]

i've done some performance improvements under the hood

apparently i... always created new instances via reflection

not a compiled delegate

[rancid musk]

Oof

[latent mauve]

I manually made recolors for Earthy and VPR, but I don't think I got Starblu yet (if that's even relevant for interior beams)

before I accidentally do any oopsie, I won't get in trouble ofr using a masked link in a thread for my mod, correct? Since I have a high enough role?

(finally making a thread for the apartment mod discussion so we can isolate it)

[tidal stone]

Ok i got my npc in there i just need to adjust her schedule, but now ive run into a problem, she wont accept gifts, i have a tutorial example of a gifttastes.json that i havent edited beyond changing the character name to her name for testing but am i allowed to post my log for help?

[vernal crest]

Yeah you should be fine, I've been using markdown links a whole bunch recently

[latent mauve]

Pelican Valley Loft NPC Apartments Discussion

[vernal crest]

Yes, absolutely!

[latent mauve]

Thanks aba

[vernal crest]

!log Oh, please use the log parser instead!

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[rancid musk]

I wonder if I should make a thread for Better Game Menu 🤔

[tidal stone]

oh

[rancid musk]

I've been noticing a lot of threads in here lately

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/log/978620ce6202424895c87d62acfdc6a6

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 4 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[latent mauve]

I haven't really bothered to make any threads for my 'smaller' mods, but ones that are likely to have a lot of discussion during or after mod construction could probably use them!

[vernal crest]

Your log has no errors in it. Did you get an error trying to give her a gift, or does she just not accept them?

[tidal stone]

she simply doesnt seem to be able to accept them like the symbol for gifts the little giftbox doesnt even show up

[vernal crest]

!json Ok can you share your content.json and, if your gift tastes stuff is in an include, also your gift tastes file?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/json/none/e05d22d8336146afb38ddcd5cc74d5bd
content

[latent mauve]

Your dispos.json too, please

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/json/none/cdfa6a20decf4afe8ff9b72b149ccef6
gift tastes (this is a basic gift taste i got following a tutorial i ahvent edited it yet so it mmight eb the culrpit? i just changed the npc name)

ok le me grab the dispos

https://smapi.io/json/none/9c2bec1a4d424409b474497dcc089a6a

[latent mauve]

KandiKraze.KrazeNPC

That's the issue

[vernal crest]

Your key is wrong because your NPC is named KandiKraze.KrazeNPC

[latent mauve]

Your NPC's Internal name is that value, and the GiftTastes key is just "Kandi"

They need to be the same thing.

[tidal stone]

Ooooh

i thought it wanted like their name name

[vernal crest]

You never refer to your NPC's display name outside of dialogue (or letter text, thanks for the reminder Lily).

[latent mauve]

Anytime the code wants a NPC name, it wants the internal name

It'll be the same for dialogue, events, etc.

[tidal stone]

ok ill remember that, ty sm!!

[latent mauve]

If you're typing a message string like in a letter or a dialogue line, then you'd use the display name instead, as Aba explained

Congrats Midnight!

[ornate locust]

The key was "high-backed chair"

[latent mauve]

I apologize for not being around while you were fighting with this, seeing as I'd already done that previously for one of my mods.

I could have saved you some time maybe. D:

[ornate locust]

Hey, everyone can't be around at once. and I had a different problem that was my ACTUAL woe earlier that I solved

where no chair was working

[latent mauve]

oof

Yeah, I made sittable toilets for my bathroom mod that I've been dragging my feet on actually releasing

[crude plank]

I'd like to follow what you're doing but I'm not always in here so a thread would be nice

[versed wyvern]

Would there happen to be any modding resource tilesheet that might be good for making a spooky mansion kind of place? I'm not confident about my ability to cobble together a good one myself

[dusk mulch]

Whaatttt nooo I didnt just rip off pierres hair and slap it onto kent!

[unique sigil]

specifically themed tilesheets are rare. afaik most of them are magical or generic outdoors/indoors tilesheets. that aside, you can always commission someone for tilesheets!

[brave fable]

similar vibe

[brave fable]

deserved.

[dusk mulch]

90% of elliot is just hair

[proud wyvern]

i'm generally not a fan of threads - the problem with them is that unless you're active while they're being created, you probably won't even know a thread for something exists - meanwhile if the talk is happening in the main channel, you can't miss it. but at the same time it might feel a bit spammy that way

basically you're really restricting your audience that way and never getting new people to chime in

[rancid musk]

Yeah. If there was a forum for mods that'd be one thing, but a thread to get lost in here...

[brittle pasture]

you can occasionally shill in the main channel I guess

it's not spam if it's otherwise dumping your thread in main
people who have their own threads occasionally post questions/requests that link back to the thread

[dusk mulch]

Oh come on kent! You had to spill some nuclear waste on your head?

[vernal crest]

Yup, I use my thread(s) for avoiding making the main channels too me-focused and to stop my stuff from getting lost, but I will still come to the main channels for help and discussion of my mods.

[unique sigil]

if i actually need feedback i will post in the main channels too. i just use my thread for my stream of consciousness rantings or whatever progress i've made. else i'd be cluttering the main channels

[rancid musk]

Hmm. How do I want to store my event handlers if I'm not using a literal event...

Sorted list it is

[hard fern]

i dont have a thread XD

i just appear randomly

[unique sigil]

i need a thread because i don't want my stuff to be lost in the main channels

[lucid iron]

i don't need a thread i just visit other people's instead

[vernal crest]

You are always welcome in my thread chu

Unless you take it over with trinkets, then I will

[lucid iron]

can i interest u in hiria trinket in these trying times

im not working on trinkets rn anyways, dying to ui again

[vernal crest]

I know I have been observing

[urban patrol]

does anyone know why an NPC would not be moving on fall 1? he doesn't follow his fall schedule, or even the default spring schedule. the other NPC follows his schedule fine, which is baffling to me because they should be almost the same.

problem child: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/75268ab8f7db4867a4f374b55d00ebe2

golden child: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/19c684fd51344890ac032fd5482f6ba6

i followed them both through most of spring and summer and they were fine

[lucid iron]

something i do think about occasionally for trinkets is that, it's actually the mid point of 3 different mods

• positional abilities: trigger actions but fast firing and relative to a location
• companion: system for an entity that moves and animates according to some state, but completely separate from NPC
• hit and projectiles: a formalized "do damage to monster" thing

[brittle pasture]

birth of chucore

[lucid iron]

i dont rly have good approach or motivation to separate them tho, even if it could be helpful to apply somethings like just ability without the whole deal behind trinkets and companions

[lucid iron]

chucore is already mmap

[dusk mulch]

Looking for feedback in #making-mods-art

[lucid iron]

you slept i assume?

[urban patrol]

yeah, i've played through most of the year on fast forward (skipping forward a couple weeks sometimes)

i went directly from the moonlight jelly festival to sleeping to fall 1

[vernal crest]

Does Charles work if you given him Edwin's fall schedule & vice versa?

[urban patrol]

let me try that rq

[vernal crest]

Don't forget that you will need to sleep again after swapping them

Hooray, symlinked tilesheets worked for map editing and in-game testing without having to move anything around or mess up my file naming convention, thanks @lucid iron

[ornate locust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32021
Tilesheet, adds FUNCTIONAL vanilla tilesheet couches that face in directions that vanilla couches do not. Also adds a TV facing up and some fire extinguishers. Recolor compatible!

and I'd appreciate if someone put that in the mod showcase thing

[urban patrol]

when i gave them both edwin's schedule, it worked, but now giving them both charles' schedule is throwing this error that it wasn't before: https://smapi.io/log/6ea172923a914d70905cd22767e4b446

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[lucid iron]

New mod from @ornate locust ! Couch.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32021
Tilesheet, adds FUNCTIONAL vanilla tilesheet couches that face in directions that vanilla couches do not. Also adds a TV facing up and some fire extinguishers. Recolor compatible!

[hard fern]

couch

[lucid iron]

so this tilesheet comes with it's own chairtiles edits?

[ornate locust]

Yes, so all the flipped stuff works

[lucid iron]

[ornate locust]

Picture is basically why I started it to begin with, wanting two couches facing each other in a room I was working on

[unkempt beacon]

Whyyyyyy does the automatic XNB 2 CP converters never work for me

[vernal crest]

Looks like you might have introduced a formatting error swapping them, double check all your quote marks etc

[unkempt beacon]

This isn’t a question j a complaint. I’m gonna have to pony up and learn how to do it myself 🫡

[rancid musk]

Alright. I have messed with things enough that I'm just going to call this a Pintail bug and finalize my API.

[urban patrol]

i'm losing my mind... i triple checked my formatting and even undid all the changes to revert it back to the previous format, i'm still getting the error? lol

[rancid musk]

I'll push out a preview build on GitHub tomorrow and start bugging people, with I guess a planned release on Nexus in a couple weeks barring any big problems. But with the idea to give other devs time to release their own updates that use the API. Barring anything crazy, the API should look like: https://gist.github.com/KhloeLeclair/e1001d959384517813b136ff0fc859f9

I'll toss a post into mod showcase when the preview is up too.

[vernal crest]

Then you might be editing the wrong files somehow? Like you made a copy as a backup and you're editing the backup?

[urban patrol]

i just checked, the filepath does lead to the correct json

should i send them again?

i could be missing a totally obvious missing comma or something i guess

[vernal crest]

Sure, have you already checked them in the json validator yourself?

[urban patrol]

yep, it's saying no errors except missing format field

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/6ff8f2ebd11a49189977b3d983241b26

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/5d5007e4a93943d297e50f65351ec2bc

[vernal crest]

Hmm, maybe it's one of the schedule strings or animation descriptions that's actually the problem. Can you try removing the references to the dialogue and animations and just leave the movement in the fall schedule?

[urban patrol]

wait in deleting them i may have figured it out--i think the final action may have been missing coordinates

yep that was almost certainly it let me try it

[vernal crest]

Oh yes, so it is. Sorry I missed that, I am very tired and my brain is moving veeeeeeeery slowly.

[rancid musk]

Heck yeah I got #32032 on Nexus for Better Game Menu

[urban patrol]

hey, i'm the author and i missed it too! but thank you so much for walking me through it, i wouldn't have seen that without you haha

[vernal crest]

You are giving me far too much credit, but I'm glad I helped xD

[dusk mulch]

Hm, the 2025 mod was hidden.

[proud wyvern]

better luck next year

[proud wyvern]

i guess i gotta come back to Stardew modding only to steal 42069

[brave fable]

maybe i should beat the rush. get in early and reserve 8,000 mod pages

[hot gale]

What is the size of the monster sprites

Are they 16x26 like the machines?

[brave fable]

machines are 16x32, monsters are completely arbitrary

[hot gale]

Oh ok, so are they not constrained?

[brave fable]

nope, even comparing big slimes to ghosts to duggies shows they do whatever they want

[hot gale]

duh, good point!

[brave fable]

it's all hardcoded in their .cs files, it's not even something set from their data file. you're really at the mercy of the hardcoding here

anything particular you were planning to do with it?

[dusk mulch]

LFFB in #making-mods-art \

[quaint wadi]

is there a way to have an npc have multiple sleep points? i want to make one that falls asleep in the forest, beach, or mountains on different nights but i dont know if that's possible

[hard fern]

i think that would just be part of their schedule

[quaint wadi]

i think you're right. i was confused by the spawn point data entry, but i'll try just doing it by schedule

[hot gale]

Is it not possible to add new monsters?

[brave fable]

there was a framework for that in 1.5 i'm pretty sure, but i haven't heard of it used in 1.6

[dusk mulch]

i dont think you can do it with CP

[hot gale]

Yeah I see that it's dated, shame

[brave fable]

it's doable with C#, of course

[dusk mulch]

my good deed to society for today

[versed wyvern]

I believe Farm Type Manager despite its name was the framework for adding reskinned monsters

But original behaviors are definitely gonna be the territory of C# wizards

[hot gale]

Source code is available, wonder how hard it is to convert

[brave fable]

!decompile

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[brave fable]

it's not so much a matter of converting as it is writing something new

[hot gale]

gotcha

[brave fable]

with a lot of cross-referencing

[dusk mulch]

Would it be worth mentioning the modding wiki in the CP tutorial page?

For when they have finished the tutorial, if they want more tutorials

[analog yacht]

Question what exactly is cp ? Does it add new stuff or always replace some stuff from the base game

[dusk mulch]

You can use it to replace or add content to the game.

[analog yacht]

So it’s Both ok thanks

[dusk mulch]

I still need confirmation on if this is needed or not

[analog yacht]

And Frameworks ? They Are just adding zhe physics for a mod

[dusk mulch]

You can use frameworks along side CP to do more with CP

[analog yacht]

What exactly are Frameworks

[dusk mulch]

They are a mod that changes the C# code of the game to allow for CP to change hardcoded things.

Hardcoded means it is coded in C#

[feral pawn]

Hello! After trying to modify one of my saved files code to give me more coins, I got interested in coding and now I want to create my own mod. Could someone give me tips on how to start coding my own mod? :]

[dusk mulch]

Sure! This tutorial is good to get started. https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher

[feral pawn]

Thanks! :D

[analog yacht]

And if you want to with c#

[dusk mulch]

C# is quite hard to learn

I have been modding for 1-2 years and havnt touched it

[analog yacht]

Ok. If you can do all the stuff with cp why the need for c#

[hot gale]

Content patcher can only do so much

[dusk mulch]

You cant do everything with CP

[hot gale]

Frameworks allow you to do practically whatever you want

[dusk mulch]

Like the Bouncer is C#.

[hot gale]

You have to code in the language the game was written in, and modify the code with C#

[dusk mulch]

Secret notes are C# (but they do have a framework)

[hot gale]

Content patcher is JSON, its hardly code

I think its technically a scripting language, not code

[dusk mulch]

Hey! You take that back!

Let me think I am a cool programmer!

[hot gale]

Im a C++ developer and I dont want to touch C# either lol ;p

[hot gale]

With JSON Im sure you are 🤣

er I misread lmao

[dusk mulch]

:D

[analog yacht]

Is it that hard

[hot gale]

Still stands though

[dusk mulch]

C++ is a harder version of C#

[hot gale]

Its a new language

Think of it that way

[feral pawn]

Can I use Sublime Text to create the code?

[dusk mulch]

You can use any text editor

[hot gale]

I made 21 weapons and idk what to do with them

Best advice I can give for content patcher is to find a mod thats similar, download it, look at the code and try to figure out how it works

Its all plain english, for the most part

[brave fable]

sublime is perfectly fine for writing json

[dusk mulch]

Or start REALLY simple

[brave fable]

it's not as high-tech as VSCode, but it does work and highlights syntax errors

[feral pawn]

Oooh, thanks :)

[analog yacht]

Thanks

[dusk mulch]

cough

[hot gale]

How do I get the mod author tag?

[dusk mulch]

Release 1 mod then contact Bouncer

[unique sigil]

you need to be level 25 minimum for that.

[hot gale]

Oh dope

[dusk mulch]

Oh and be cowpoke

[brave fable]

(mod author role requires Farmer role. #roles )

[hot gale]

Ah

[analog yacht]

Where can you see your Level

[unique sigil]

#governors-mansion , type the / lvl command

[feral pawn]

I tried to read the Modding wiki and got easily confused, I can't understand much of it but as far as I've understood, I need to know some basic programming... right?

[unique sigil]

You don't need to have any programming knowledge if all you want is making CP mods. You just need good reading comprehension pretty much

[feral pawn]

oooooh, thanks! :]

[hot gale]

@feral pawn

[feral pawn]

aaah, and what mods are similar to Content Patcher?

[dusk mulch]

I will take this as a no then

[hot gale]

Most mods ARE for content patcher, its a framework that allows easy additions/modifications to the game

[iron ridge]

i do not

[iron ridge]

you need 1.6 if you're using tmxl2cp, because it relies on game files

[dusk mulch]

you. have. got. to. be. KIDDING ME. I SCOURED THE PAGE

[iron ridge]

none are, but tmxl2cp needs xtile and it's different between 1.5 and 1.6

[unique sigil]

the more accurate thing to say is find a content patcher mod that does something similar to a mod you want to make, not a mod that is similar to content patcher

[hot gale]

Good point

[unique sigil]

Also, depending on the type of CP mod it's not always a good idea to tell complete newbies to learn from an existing mod

[iron ridge]

weird, doesn't flag for me

[unique sigil]

@feral pawn You can look at a similar CP mod yes, but you have to cross-check with the modding wiki in the process AND content patcher's docs, and not just copy-pasting code blocks without comprehending what they're doing in the first place. And please find references from a mod that is small in scope - for example, if you're just starting and want to make a custom crops mod, don't immediately jump in to look at Cornucopia's docs

[feral pawn]

Thank you!

[unique sigil]

feel free to ask around more in this channel once you've started!

[analog yacht]

Does the love for cooking mod works with recipes added by other mods? Maybe I can start modding by adding new dishes

[unique sigil]

it does

[analog yacht]

Thanks

[feral pawn]

Is someone as jobless as I am to give me a step by step sort of tutorial on how to start? I still don't understand the wiki. I apologize for being so dumb lol

[unique sigil]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[unique sigil]

the content patcher page is already enough of a step-by-step overview (there is one in the Get started section) and explains the terminology as well

[hot gale]

Where can I find a list of the available sound effects?

[rancid temple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Audio

[hot gale]

You rock, thanks

[flat sluice]

Hi!
Sorry if this is the wrong channel to ask this!

When I was checking and archiving my saves (for faster save game loading), I noticed two files in the AppData\Roaming\StardewValley\ folder - default_options and startup_preferences. My curiosity told me to look at them, but not edit them.
In the second one, I noticed an unexpected-for-me line <sawAdvancedCharacterCreationIndicator>false</sawAdvancedCharacterCreationIndicator>. Does anyone know what it does? From what it tells, it should be a checker if the user saw an indicator for AdvancedCharacterCreation, but what could that be?

[vernal crest]

If I am not wildly misremembering, sometimes when you're in the character creator the button for the advanced settings will flash?

My tentative interpretation of the code is that sawAdvancedCharacterCreationIndicator records whether you've seen that flashing before.

If you've run the game at least once before and you go into the character creator, the advanced settings button will flash and then sawAdvancedCharacterCreationIndicator will be set to true so it won't do it again.

I am not confident in this interpretation lol

[iron ridge]

it is for that (just checked)

if (this.advancedCCHighlightTimer > 0f)
{
    b.Draw(Game1.mouseCursors, this.advancedOptionsButton.getVector2() + new Vector2(4f, 84f), new Rectangle(128 + ((this.advancedCCHighlightTimer % 500f < 250f) ? 16 : 0), 208, 16, 16), Color.White * Math.Min(1f, this.advancedCCHighlightTimer / 500f), 0f, Vector2.Zero, 4f, SpriteEffects.None, 0.5f);
}

[vernal crest]

Wow I am getting so powerful at this reading C# thing!

Hrm, I am being betrayed by Data/Chairtiles

[tidal stone]

What do i use in events for the player name is it just @?

[brave fable]

yep, @ will work in dialogue - i'm not sure if it's usable in other cases

[flat sluice]

If it is normal dialogue, then @ is OK. If it is a message or textAboveHead, you'll need to use {{PlayerName}} instead.

If you use i18n, you'll have to parse it into the dialogue, like this:
{{i18n:Events.14h-short_SVE.0 |PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}

And the dialogue would look like this:
"Events.14h-short_SVE.0": "Hi, {{PlayerName}}!",

[tidal stone]

how do i specify player taking place in event just {{Player Name}}?

[vernal crest]

To refer to them in event commands you use farmer. Like move farmer 24 0 1 etc.

[tidal stone]

ooooh ok

ty

is there an easy way to see where the viewport will be like how you can find tiles with debug mode?

wait is it just tiles

[vernal crest]

For which bit? If it's the second command in the event where you're setting the initial camera position, that's based on tile coordinates. Same with the viewport <x> <y> command. If it's viewport move, that's in pixels and you'll have to experiment. Make liberal use of patch reload and debug ebi.

[tidal stone]

o7

[pine brook]

Good morning, all! I am tinkering with making a new mod right now - More Slime Eggs. I have the assets I want and producers updating, etc, but I am having an issue with actually spawing the associated slime I want. Is there a way for using Producer Framework Mod or something like Spawn Monsters to push a spawn monster command and associate it with the slime incubator without going into the C# coding? Does Content Patcher have a "When Produce Ready" condition I could try?

[calm nebula]

No

You have to c# it