archived-update-spoilers

[chilly bloom]

Heya atravita 👋

[finite horizon]

Hi!

[distant seal]

What's the best way to use GI, I was considering honey farm but maybe AF is better?

[fathom saffron]

You can do a honey farm in the bit across the bridge from your big farm plot

It's not mine, got from reddit.

I thought it was brilliant

Uh let me know if I was to post the pic elsewhere instead. I'm just waking up and have forgotten if I can or not..

[distant seal]

I am def trying that lol

[fathom saffron]

It's a lot of work but worth it

It's like I think 300+ honey

Fairy Rose of course

And like 2 honey because like 2 hives don't quite reach. But I don't mind

[distant seal]

Do you have any recommendations for best ring combos to survive the dangerous skull cavern

I got bodied twice

[fathom saffron]

Uh not sure

It depends on your playstyle I guess

You've upgraded the sword fully?

But I uh like iridium band with either burglar ring or slime charmer.

Sometimes I'd do napalm with slime charmer or slime charmer with burglar

[quiet rampart]

iridium + slime charmer and lucky + burglar is what I use

also ice rod helps a lot in terms of trinkets

and using hammers lol

[fathom saffron]

I like the quiver for trinket

But again depends on your playstyle

[quiet rampart]

ice rod synergizes pretty well with hammers

[fathom saffron]

Nice

I might try that one day

[quiet rampart]

you kill every enemy in one go

[distant seal]

I might go back to ice rod

I have two iridium bands plus slime charmer and napalm

My biggest desire is basically to do well in skull caverns and optimize killing enemies

[distant seal]

I use the infinity gavel

[quiet rampart]

it's generally better to avoid enemies altogether

[fathom saffron]

I think you can upgrade it no?

[quiet rampart]

no

[fathom saffron]

Ah

[quiet rampart]

infinity is the final version

[distant seal]

If you mean enchant it, I did

[fathom saffron]

Been a while since I've played

[distant seal]

I gave it its best enchant which is artful

Artful plus infinity gavel, plus acrobat and scut

scout*

[quiet rampart]

well technically you can get the dragontooth club which I believe is better if you're minmaxxing

[distant seal]

Yeah I have not lucked out with it

I tried going in forge but so far not good luck when I go through purple chests

[quiet rampart]

it's not better than the infinity gavel to the point where you actively search for it, imo

fully forged/enchanted infinity gavel works well enough

[misty wedge]

well this is interesting
you know how you can get gifts in the mail?
i got 50 wood from robin twice, is that very unusual?

[quiet rampart]

I have gotten 50 wood from her a lot of times

one of the more helpful gifts

[misty wedge]

it was delivered twice, though

[quiet rampart]

at the same time?

you probably missed a day

[distant seal]

You know I probably might switch to just getting a combo based on maximizing loot I get from SC

Parrot seems to do great with burglar ring, napalm, slime charmer, and iridium band with infinity gavel

[quiet rampart]

I mean, if you want money just ignore enemies and bomb/staircase down

fighting enemies is just about the worst thing you can do with your time in SC, unless you have a specific objective

[distant seal]

What's the best food to use for SC? SPicy eel still?

I use Spicy eel + espresso usually

when it comes to SC dives

[quiet rampart]

MRC

[distant seal]

Second best?

[quiet rampart]

for buffs, spicy eel is great

I use high quality cheese for health/energy myself, but there are other options

[distant seal]

I almost go lucky lunch but like the speed is so ood

good for spicy eel*

[quiet rampart]

yeah and spicy eel is easier to get

[distant seal]

I swear the difficulty spike with the shrine of challenge is rough

[quiet rampart]

you'll get used to it pretty quick lol

[distant seal]

I probably will only focus on loot and avoid battle

[quiet rampart]

as a tip, since you're using clubs, you can hit the royal serpents in the tail repeatedly without them getting knocked back much

same applies for any weapon, but with clubs you can use this to basically one-shot them

[distant seal]

Yeah I been spamming the attack after using special move

and it works well

I think my biggest weakness is fighting groups

even with artful, I get overwhelmed if I don't watch my health like a hawk

I also always try to skip mummy levels because I hate fighting mummies @quiet rampart

Also infested levels too if I don't have enemies I need to kill for lot

[quiet rampart]

they are pretty annoying lmao

if you're getting overwhelmed you can pause the game and think about what to do next

not panicking and staircasing down is the best bet if you're in a rough situation

alternatively, you could eat cheese like a skyrim player and kill the enemies

[misty wedge]

Do i need to catch more, or will these fill up over time?
I'm having frustratingly little success in catching a second lava eel

[quiet rampart]

they do fill up over time

catching them is a lot faster though

[distant seal]

I will probably use bombs a lot

I love the dwarf blessing where you are immune to bomb damage

I can just spam and use bombs

[quiet rampart]

you have the book power from the dwarf, right?

the dwarvish safety manual or something

[misty wedge]

where is a good non-sc place to get 100 bone fragments in a week?

[quiet rampart]

GI

the dig site is pretty much the best place for that

[misty wedge]

@distant seal if you haven't already, buy the book from the dwarf

[near lake]

Floors 70-80 in the mines

[near lake]

With the Burglars ring

[misty wedge]

i don't have that

[quiet rampart]

have you unlocked ginger island?

[near lake]

You can do it without too you just have to kill more

[misty wedge]

nope
literally two apples away

[quiet rampart]

aw well

[near lake]

So close yet so far

[quiet rampart]

you can farm level 70 (71) then

[near lake]

Plus the repairs to the boat

[misty wedge]

what does that entail, costwise, anyway?

[near lake]

It’s really expensive at:
200 hardwood
5 battery packs
||5 iridium bars||

[chilly bloom]

It’s only 5 iridium bars

[misty wedge]

15?
i suppose that's not too bad, i've done a few SC runs so that's ok

[chilly bloom]

Not 15

[near lake]

You’re right I read the wiki wrong

[misty wedge]

only thing i need is the hardwood

is there any difference between flavored and wild honey with the exception of sell value?

[near lake]

I honestly don’t think there is

[distant seal]

Yes

I have it too

tbf I notice mega bombs barely damage me

[distant seal]

Which is better

I hate Junimo Kart so I might just do the grange

[hushed hare]

grange can be easy if you're a hoarder

or got money to burn

[distant seal]

Yeah I am a hoarder lol

[hushed hare]

[[Dyeing]]

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Dyeing

[cunning cove]

Id say the easiest items for each color would be cherry bombs/cranberry, copper ore, sap, fiber, ancient fruit, bug meat

[quiet rampart]

I do spaghetti for red and salad for green, but yeah

also joja cola for blue

which is kind of annoying when you don't have jojamart lmao

[cunning cove]

Which is why i recommend ancient fruit cuz it's a lot faster than..

clicking buy 100 times

Or blueberry if you have them stocked up for some reason

[quiet rampart]

100 ancient fruit is a lot of money though

that's 200k gold

[cunning cove]

it's more available, cuz not everyone has blueberry stored up

But you know damn well you have ancient fruit

Some people use battery packs for blue (but that's rich people's business)

[quiet rampart]

I have a 1:1 ancient fruit-keg ratio so I don't have any stored up usually

[cunning cove]

I mean yea but what im saying is you always will have ancient fruit growing

[quiet rampart]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the saloon will always have joja cola

[cunning cove]

While blueberry you have to store from summer and you typically don't plant them on GI

[opal terrace]

Just get joja cola from the salloon

[cunning cove]

And click 100 times? Nah

[opal terrace]

It takes all of 2 minutes and you're not wasting a tremendous amount of money

[cunning cove]

Actually 200 times cuz you have to interact and buy

[opal terrace]

You can do it much faster by using the keybinds

Or controller

[tough remnant]

Good time to note that you can interact with X and confirm dialogue with Y

[quiet rampart]

yeah it's a bit faster

[tough remnant]

"A bit"

Honestly main benefit is it doesn't fuck your wrist doing it fast

[quiet rampart]

it makes a lot of difference when you do a lot of it, but the individual amount is negligable for day-to-day stuff

[cunning cove]

This is Kat's grange inventory

Bro be using everything hard to get

I applaud the effort lmao

[opal terrace]

Why iridium bar...

[cunning cove]

For the memes

That's only 150000g

[opal terrace]

And 500 ore
The ore itself counts as purple 😭

[cunning cove]

Exactly

That's why it's for the memes

The grange has about 4 modes: the poor people mode, the lazy people mode, the rich people mode and the wtf mode

Using blue jazz for blue is a part of the wtf mode

[opal terrace]

Should've gone with duck feathers for green!

[tough remnant]

I've been tempted to do some DRS garden pots with regrowth crops for instant grange occasionally

[opal terrace]

Not a bad idea

[chilly bloom]

Honeslty I just have bought items that I use most of the time

and/or general resources such as ores/fiber

[modern sorrel]

Hello i have a question :
X= tree seed
O=mushroom log

I if do XOXOX
Will the seed be able to grow ? Or should I wait for them to be fully grown before putting logs ?

[glossy harbor]

Of the trinkets, which are the best to use? I've got the Fairy at level 2, and I like it very much, but is there better?

[opal terrace]

High level parrot can be decent for a little extra money
Magic quiver helps knock away enemies even if it doesn't do much damage
Not sure about the other ones

[quiet rampart]

Ice rod is nice

[glossy harbor]

I tried the quiver, didn't really like how it targeted the "unkillable" bugs in SC

[quiet rampart]

it synergizes very well with the hammer

[quiet rampart]

Ice rod does that too, but it pierces everything

and it does freeze the bugs, at least

for what it's worth

[glossy harbor]

That seems useful then, I got one that I can try

Are there different levels to the ice rod?

[quiet rampart]

levels, no. the stats are variable though

[glossy harbor]

Ah okay

[quiet rampart]

I think a perfect version freezes for 4 seconds with a 3 second delay between shots

now that I think about it, using ice rod on GI is pretty annoying

[glossy harbor]

How's 4.6 every 2.4?

wait, I think that's swapped, it freezes for 2.4 every 4.6

[quiet rampart]

I mean, it's a start

3 iridium bars per reroll isn't too expensive though

[glossy harbor]

no, especially when I don't have much to use iridium on

[quiet rampart]

time for SC then

try out that new ice rod

[glossy harbor]

Will do in a bit, probably gonna call it for stardew for a few hours lol

[misty wedge]

sure, this is normal

[whole raven]

Hey uhh i just wanna ask in the november 4 mobile and console update is there gonna be a multiplayer feature on mobile?

[undone bridge]

What’s the best thing for the dehydrator

[uneven lake]

Other than purple shrooms probably fruits like blueberries, since they can easily overproduce and it takes too long to process them in kegs or preserves jars.

[fathom saffron]

I don't think so. I don't think CA got multiplayer for mobile, too tricky?

[lyric sparrow]

Blueberries and cranberries.

And blackberries.

You can get a ton of those in Fall in three days of the picking season.

[opal terrace]

Purple mushroom though
If you get some mushroom logs and surround them with trees they can make good money with the dehydrator

[lyric sparrow]

Sweet. I've only just started playing 1.6 after taking all of 2024 off. Thanks for the tip.

[chilly bloom]

Gonna go straight into another crazy farm?

[lyric sparrow]

Not this time. I'm not going to monoculture. More diversity, much more like my first farm. But it's Riverland, so I'm looking more toward making a prettier farm.

[chilly bloom]

that's fair, lean to the more relaxed side

[lyric sparrow]

I mean, greenhouse is going to be all ancient fruit, just for the money. But outside will have a variety. I got lucky with two ancient seeds in the second week of Spring, which I grew outside and have turned the fruits into 18 seeds so far, with another two weeks and 4 fruits to go. I've never started a greenhouse with more than 4 ancient fruit plants. LOL

[chilly bloom]

nice

[tough remnant]

Yes, it's fine. Only fruit trees need clear space around them

[chilly bloom]

regular trees can't have another grown tree next to them if you want them to grow to max stage tho

[pure nymph]

is the parrot trinket good

and in your opinion what is the best trinket to use

[chilly bloom]

it's fine, and it really depends

You can kill stuff for cash but it's generally not worth it if you're not going exspressedly to kill stuff

I'd say frog is bad, arrow is bad, frost is meh (it's aim is shit), fairy is decent, basilisk is decent, parrot is decent

spur is ok?

[lyric sparrow]

Would Green Rain countermand that and make everything grow, even so close together?

[chilly bloom]

nah

[warped panther]

prismatic hair trinket tho

shiny hair

[chilly bloom]

oh yeah that's the only S+ tier one

[pure nymph]

ooo shiny hair

[lyric sparrow]

I've only just had the one. I'm hearing I missed out on the real fun by going to the saloon to watch everyone freak out. Oh, well. Maybe next time. LOL

[chilly bloom]

do note the first year is the only one with the really out there reactions

so you made the most of it looking at everyone

as they don't really do the same in the subsequent years

[lyric sparrow]

Yeah, a friend on another Discord server was telling me the same thing when I asked her about the Green Rain. Only way I would have known. I'm trying NOT to overdo it with the Wiki or in this channel so I can be surprised.
And the Green Rain was quite a surprise, let me tell you.

[chilly bloom]

yeah it definitely is

If you weren't expecting it it's something else entirely

[tough remnant]

I'd disagree, frog is great

Cute pet following you around

And it can be prismatic

[chilly bloom]

Hey hey hey, I was talking about practicality, from a purely subjective perspective it probably wins

At least in my eyes

Though the parrot has a certain charm, especially the way it sits on your shoulder

[tough remnant]

S Tier: Hair Gel
Pet Tier: Frog, Parrot
Questionable Pet Tier: Fairy
Cool Effects Tier: Quiver, Rod
Boring Tier: Basilisk Paw, Spur

[warped panther]

lmao questionable pet tier

[chilly bloom]

Couldn’t agree more

Fairy definitely deserves the bump up when the colouring issues are fixed though

[steady narwhal]

I use spur a lot

[steady narwhal]

I also use it for desert festival sc runs

Getting one spotted by mummies is scary

Well sort of scary just makes me much more aware

[steady narwhal]

If only Alex came to the stalls in the desert festival for me...

[tough remnant]

In other news, gathering iridium seaweed for my aquariums before I update continues to be slow as hell

[steady narwhal]

Still waiting for those tide pools?

[coral arrow]

I gave the bookman a copy of Woody's book but I didnt get the hardwood? Or does it come in the mail?

[tough remnant]

Yup. I need about 20, I'm halfway there at end of Y2

[coral arrow]

Or am I missing something?

[neon dirge]

Is catching a midnight carp any useful?

I see they produce river jelly if put on a pond

but idk how useful river jelly actually is

[coral arrow]

I figured it out. I have to click on the wood not the book, I think

[steady narwhal]

Midnight Carp is also used for seafoam

Otherwise if you're for river jelly you can use them as a passive source. Usually better to just fish for river jelly with high luck buff

[neon dirge]

got it

[opal terrace]

Hair gel is truly the trinket of all time

[trim plinth]

During festivals shops are closed. For instance, festival of ice that I skipped occurs between 9am and 2pm. Gus' saloon is this closed for the entire day. Yet npcs act as if it was opened and go have a drink.

It's awkward to see a Shane leaving it while I cannot even enter it. It's like being not invited to a party. I feel undesired.

[hybrid comet]

do we get 1.7

[trim plinth]

To me, they are not really worth getting in a pond. In a precedent run, I had flounders and midnight carps in ponds to be able to make the seafoam, which is the best fishing bonus recipe. But there are other more simple means to get fish bonus dishes. I still like fishing them because they are quite easy and sell for decent money. Getting iridium quality is not hard(450g with angler, and once smoked with artisan on top, they reach 1260g).

[blazing echo]

he's probably gonna work on his new game after 1.6 fully comes out on everything

you never know but im pretty sure there's no plans for the near future

[hybrid comet]

yeah

i hope so

[blazing echo]

idk im fine with the game as it is, 1.6 added many amazing features and i dont really have any more id want out of the game :0

plus theres always mods to spice it up

[normal falcon]

Is 1.6 mobile out?

[trim plinth]

#bulletin-board message

[signal path]

1.7 prob wont be out for ages since we only just got the update out on all
Platforms (not even) soooooo

[unborn quartz]

There probably won't even be a 1.7, 1.6 wasn't planned at all at first

[safe gust]

You are supposed to get hardwood when trading a book. Your trade got bugged instead.

[tough remnant]

Nah, she just accidentally sold the book rather than buying hardwood

[woven tusk]

Ye, same as any other shop interface (e.g. desert trader, Pierre, Desert Festival)
Next patch will remove the ability to sell the book on that screen, to prevent this misunderstanding

[modern sorrel]

Thanks this will be easier to setup then

[mellow atlas]

wait do i still use spoiler messages here or no

wait

i just checked

[regal ivy]

Nope

Fire away

[violet zephyr]

Is there something special about catching jellies? They just feel damn insanely rare, like its not supposed to be like that. Maybe I can only get them under some special circumstances/times/whatever

Just struggling so much to get some fish smokers

Spent literally 2 days straight up fishing in caves for cave jelly

and got none

[trim plinth]

#archived-update-spoilers message

[tough remnant]

They're extremely dependent on luck buffs. You can find optimal strategies foe catching them on the wiki, they differ a little for each jelly

[violet zephyr]

Oh well... Seems like all it takes it to complain!

[trim plinth]

You should have started complaining before it became an issue

[violet zephyr]

so true

[hushed hare]

Rainbow trout fishpond should be rainbow colored and have animated water 🗣️

[dreamy gust]

There should be more pond colors, period

There's red, green, and two shades of purple

[hushed hare]

The customization of ponds is lacking too

There's what, 3-4 barely different skins?

[arctic kindle]

I think my save might be lucky bc I don’t really have too much trouble getting jellies

[hushed hare]

And signs

[dreamy gust]

Or even just have it change color slowly if they wouldn't go the rainbow route

Like the prismatic clothes

[hushed hare]

That could work too

[violet zephyr]

Apparently stonefish is extremely nutritious, we just can't bite trough its raw shell

and thats only gold too

[safe gust]

idk how much have you progressed through the game, but Legend II has even higher nutritional value when smoked, and it is available to catch only through Qi's gem quest which can be repeatedly taken.

[violet zephyr]

I was just pointing out the fact u can't eat stonefish, but can eat its smoked version. I doubt u'll want to fish for Legend II as a food source by the time u are able to do so lmao

[jovial dagger]

I think the cave jelly hates me, lmao
I can't catch/find one for the life of me 😭

[dreamy gust]

Worst comes worst they can come out of Lava Eel ponds

[tough remnant]

Stack as many luck buffs as you can, go to floor 100 of the mines, do short casts, and no matter what do not use the training rod

[jovial dagger]

Thank you!

[trim plinth]

floor 20 and 60 work as well

[tough remnant]

100 has significantly higher rates

Lava Eel are rarer than Stonefish or Ice Pips, and there's no algae or Ghostfish to catch

[dreamy gust]

Also you could throw out your line closer to you, which also helps

[leaden stratus]

beautiful

[arctic kindle]

are smokers worth it

[rich lake]

Very

[high rampart]

smokers are a blessing from God himself. I still regret not buying them as early year 1 as possible

[hushed hare]

if you loooooove fishing for expensive fish, yeah

and you don't need that many, they process fast enough

[arctic kindle]

I like money so 😋 maybe i will buy\

what are the best fish to put in the smokers

i havent completed the cc

if that helps

havent gotten any legendaries

[hushed hare]

you can smoke any fish

it doubles the current price

plus it changes it into an artisan product, so you can get another 40%

[safe gust]

the higher is the fish quality, the more money will it give, really.
Personally, I tend to keep legendary fish in chest until I buy aquatic sanctuary to put them in there as a mini-flex

[arctic kindle]

should i put my only lava eel into targeted bait

[high rampart]

if you're fishing on floor 100 caves then no

in volcano it's worth it I'm pretty sure

[arctic kindle]

ooo

what about stonefish? I have a hard time gettng that one

I get more ghost fish

[high rampart]

any fish that's stupidly rare will still be stupidly rare with targeted bait, pretty much

[arctic kindle]

gotcha

[high rampart]

it's good for semi rare fish like catfish or sturgeon

[arctic kindle]

Thanks

[trim plinth]

Super cucumbers and midnight carps are good too. Their schedule can be annoying, but super cucumber gives a lot of money and midnight carp is relatively easy to catch and get iridium quality compared to its price.

I usually smoke anything that is worth more than 300g. If you do the maths it is still profitable with cheaper fish, but I do not want to either spend my time in front of smokers or have 10 smokers.

But agreed, catfish and sturgeons are great too

[high rampart]

super cucumbers are nice in that they share the season with sturgeons so it's not all that bad that they only bite starting late in the day. It's pretty chill starting the day off at the mountain lake and moving to the ocean once sturgeons don't bite anymore

[trim plinth]

Yes that is a very very profitable day if you have nothing with higher priority.

void salmons from the witch path are nice too. Ginger island also has good opportunities but once you are there, you probably have something more important to do.

[arctic kindle]

if i put in a higher quality fish will it come out higher quality? other artisan machines don't do that

[high rampart]

it keeps the quality, yes

[trim plinth]

There is also the night market in winter which gives blobfish and spookfish. They cost a lot. Something that is strange to me remains the octopus. It is the hardest non legendary fish to catch. Yet it gives nothing. It is not expensive, it has no associated recipe, its fish pond is whatever.

[high rampart]

Lingcod is by far the biggest asshole of a fish. Gets in the way of legend 2 and sturgeon fishing, costs basically nothing and exists only to make you believe you have a more expensive fish hooked. At least the octopus is only active for a few hours each day so it doesn't waste too much of your time

[mellow atlas]

Yeah but catching an octopus is on par with legendary fish 👀

[high rampart]

the cephalopod fears the trap bobber

[trim plinth]

or level 13

[mellow atlas]

I haven't fished in a hot minute, but isn't squid horrendous too?

[high rampart]

it's not too bad

mildly annoying at worst

[trim plinth]

yes sneaky but more as a joke

While octopus or scorpion fish can go insane

[mellow atlas]

I have had mixed luck on scorpionfish.

Sometimes I think it's a sandfish and bam, free scorpion. Other times it's jumping from the top to bottom non stop and I insta fail.

[trim plinth]

Some scorpion instances can be tame, true

[wet cedar]

Sometimes the fish are a bit sleepy

[wet cedar]

With the new artifact appraisal book, the Dino eggs are actually better to sell than turning into mayo

[brittle peak]

unless you have artisan then the quality eggs are better sold raw

[wet cedar]

?

That’s what I’m saying. The eggs are more valuable than the mayo

Even with artisan

Only exception is basic quality egg

[brittle peak]

yeah, thats what i was saying

[wet cedar]

Pretty cool buff for dinosaurs

[brittle peak]

fr

[wet cedar]

A full coop of Dinos can produce 25,200 gold a week

Wait now that I think about it, it’s pretty weird that rancher doesn’t affect Dino eggs

I guess an item can’t have two categories?

[woven tusk]

Smoked Fish gets multipliers from two

[brittle peak]

smoked fish=OP

[brittle peak]

thats not bad

[woven tusk]

I think I heard that this still only brings them to second-worst profit among animals, up from actual worst

[arctic kindle]

yall my truffle got up and walked on its legs

[woven tusk]

Kill it

[arctic kindle]

what is that?!

I did

[woven tusk]

Truffle crab

[arctic kindle]

thats pretty cool

it didnt give me any new things or anything

[woven tusk]

Drops one or more truffles and one or more crabs (when it's multiple, presumably they're doing the "two kids in a trench coat" gag except crabs in a truffle)

That awkward moment when you collect cow/goat produce with a pail, collect sheep produce with shears, and collect pig produce with a w e a p o n

[wet cedar]

I just did the math and 1 max friendship sheep with a Golden Animal Cracker produces ~6,132 gold a week

With a full barn, that’s ~73,590 gold a week

[brittle peak]

wow!

[safe gust]

whole ostrich barn boosted with animal crackers is wild

[crisp ginkgo]

Wait can the scythe use to collect truffles ?

[wet cedar]

So around 1,177,440 a year

[woven tusk]

I wouldn't want to swing the scythe that close to my grass feeders

[brittle peak]

are ostriches worth more then sheep or pigs?

[wet cedar]

Can anyone give me a rough number on the average amount of truffles a max friendship pig produces a day? I want to do the math for a year and compare to sheep

Some game rant article says 3 but I don’t believe that

Fine I’ll just use that number

[woven tusk]

Oh, Shepherd Sheep actually beat Artisan Ancient Wine in gold per tile, I read somewhere

[brittle peak]

dang, ive never considered sheep to be of much worth

[wet cedar]

So a full barn of max friendship pigs theoretically produces 315,000 gold a week. However, that doesn’t account for rain days

[wet cedar]

1.6 buffed them

Higher quality wool has a chance of making 2 cloth in a loom. With iridium quality, the chance is 100%

[woven tusk]

Golden Crackered Shepherd Sheep produce an average of 3.7 cloth worth of wool every day
1 cloth with Rancher (prerequisite to Shepherd) is worth 564g
So a Shepherd Sheep is worth 3.7×564G (2086.8G) average per day

[wet cedar]

Animal crackers double that once more

Basically, around 4 cloth every three days

[woven tusk]

With co-op or profession swapping, you can get Artisan on that. But even without Artisan, it beats crops per farm tile

[woven tusk]

?????? Shepherd Sheep produce every single day

[wet cedar]

I was talking about artisan

[woven tusk]

Artisan Sheep produce every two days

[wet cedar]

Ah okay

I had some misinformation

[woven tusk]

Base is indeed 3 days
High friendship subtracts one day, Shepherd subtracts one day, they stack. Together, they produce daily

Helluva five-o-clock shadow situation going on here

[wet cedar]

I might make a Reddit post comparing the weekly, monthly, and yearly earnings of every animal when filling a coop/barn. It would be fun.

[wet cedar]

Didn’t know friendship reduced a day

Man imagine if Rancher affected Dino eggs

[woven tusk]

#archived-update-spoilers message

Sicarious has done extensive math on this, you can find a lot of posts about it by searching for times he said the word "Shepherd"

[safe gust]

sheep is the most useless of the bunch, especially when you have rabbit coop. Because rabbits produce their foot pendants that are universally loved gifts (except for Penny who likes diamonds) and also can sell for big amount of money.
Ostriches with maximum friendship points can give you iridium-quality eggs, and each of them produce iridium-quality 10 mayo jars. If you have Artisan skill, those 10 iridium jars can sell for 5320 gold. Ostrich is worth more than a sheep.
For some reason, truffle counts as "forage" and is therefore affected by Botanist skill, which can make a truffle more worth than truffle oil. So my suggestion would be to keep ostriches and pigs, and replace sheep with rabbits.

[wet cedar]

One Iridium Dino egg would be 2520

[woven tusk]

Jurassic Park R a n c h

[wet cedar]

It affects their mayo

But I guess items can’t have 2 categories?

[trim plinth]

artisan truffle oil is always better than iridium truffle

also gatherer has more impact than botanist on truffles

[wet cedar]

Yeah but not by much

The oil machines aren’t really worth it

[woven tusk]

Sheep with Shepherd beat every single other money method in the game, if you build for it specifically

I would not do it but I would not call them useless for this reason

[trim plinth]

it's still not true that truffles benefit from botanist when you have artisan

[wet cedar]

The truffle oil isn’t even 250 gold more than the truffle itself

The time and resources the oil maker requires isn’t worth it in my opinion

[woven tusk]

It means I can get away with not oiling them, which is a benefit in a different direction

[woven tusk]

Though with Mystics being a thing, Tapper has better actual value

Shroom logs aren't affected by Botanist either and you would dehydrate the products from them

[wet cedar]

Yeah but I’d rather double truffles than mystic syrup costing 250 more

The truffles are produced more often and are more expensive

But yeah, I like that the tapper profession is better now

More options and diversity is always fun

I’m not the kind of person to solely use star/ancient fruit wine and truffles lol

[distant seal]

Does the shrine of challenge in SC make both mines and SC dangerous

or only SC?

[rich lake]

Only SC

There's separate shrines for each

[woven tusk]

Your parrot is perched on the coffee cup and that's cute until I worry about whether it's, like sitting (or worse) in the coffee

[distant seal]

lol yeah

I sometimes debate if it's worth it to go to SC on even decent luck days

[brittle peak]

its worth it

[rich lake]

If you have staircases, luck hardly matters

[wet cedar]

Since CA added an exp bar for Mastery, I dont get why he didnt just add exp bars for the skills in general

Or at least make it so hovering over it shows the exp progress

[brittle peak]

fr

just use the xp bars fn ig

[distant seal]

Yeah it feels meh

I am just optimizing my jade shed

Soo I will always have 100 stair cases

Also tips on prairie king minigame?

[brittle peak]

yes please!

[wet cedar]

Beat the game normally first so you can get the arcade machine. Then, place it next to your bed. Every time you complete a level, go to sleep. If you ever die in a level, just reset the day and try again.

This way you only need to retry levels instead of starting from scratch

[distant seal]

Lol that sounds better than me camping outside the saloon and going inside

[wet cedar]

I would like to take this moment to brag that I beat Junimo Cart before it was made easier 😌

[sacred river]

I find it funny how your tip to get better at the prairie king is to beat the prairie king first lmao

[wet cedar]

I was assuming they were asking because of the achievement

[safe gust]

Hol up!
You can get the arcade machine for yourself?!
I reached Perfection for 2nd time by now and I didn't know that!

[wet cedar]

Yeah and for junimo cart as well

you need to beat them and you get them in the mail the next day\

[rose knoll]

A big tip for PK in general is restart if you don't get 15 coins before the first shop

That dmg boost is huge

[distant seal]

Do I need to beat junimo kart for perfection

[safe gust]

no, it's completely optional to play arcade games

[trim plinth]

Yes. You can only know how much a book gives you xp once mastery has been reached. Reconverted books(the ones that give a power then become xp tomes if you find them again) only give 100 xp. This is nothing at all, it is more valuable to trade/sell/offer them than using them.

And you have no idea how much xp you need for the next level either - double unknown

[distant seal]

I think I won't be able to get a stone junimo

Did the secret note but no stone junimo came

[rose knoll]

It's fairly well hidden - try running along the back wall until you hit an obstruction then use the pickaxe

[distant seal]

Ah okay. Also one more thing, when does Emily usually set up her stand in Desert fest

I have so many calico eggs

[rose knoll]

I believe it's random who sets up each year

Yep - Wiki says 2 per day, 12 - 12, random

[sacred river]

If Emily sets up her stand, does her free clothing service not work anymore

[pure nymph]

i think sandy mans it instead?

not too sure but i think someone told me that before

[distant seal]

Ohhhh

Damn I kept coming back up from SC

What a waste

[rose knoll]

Yeah - if you're drowning in calico eggs, go big on mega bombs or similar

[distant seal]

Which should I do on a very bad luck day that still requires me to get 4 prism shards

tbf I have another week but the bad luck day does suck but I have enough staircases to achieve the 2nd

[rose knoll]

There's a 1 megabomb difference. I'd go for left unless I was already planning to dive

But on a bad luck day it's not worth it

[distant seal]

Fair and I can still keep those megabombs for good luck days

[rose knoll]

Yeah. It's just not worth the extra cost for +1 megabomb worth of eggs when you'd spend 10x that just getting there, while purple slimes are likely to hug you to death in the first 4 floors

[idle seal]

I'm in spring year 3 so this is my second time at the desert festival. I've had Sam as one of the villager shops 3 out of the 6 times total??

[steel wyvern]

What happens if (that is, if it's even possible) you gift the friendship tea at the feast of north star?

nevermind, wiki has the answer

[rose knoll]

I'm assuming it's not worth it, especially given birthdays

[steel wyvern]

same effect as birthday, actually

[rose knoll]

Ok, not quite the effect I was talking about. There's a really fun little trick you can do on birthdays

[steel wyvern]

Friendship tea can be gifted regardless of gift limit, is that it?

[rose knoll]

|| And it gets the birthday multiplier for each one too, yep. 1 Gift + 2 Teas is 8.75ish hearts ||

[wet cedar]

What triggers the raccoon quest to start?

I’m in the latter half of fall and it hasn’t started yet

[rose knoll]

|| Initial start is RNG - you need a strong windstorm during the night to destroy the tree. The next day you can repair it, and then the day after the quests start ||

[wet cedar]

Ok Ty

Guess I’m just unlucky

[dreamy gust]

Also i believe you have to have the greenhouse

[wet cedar]

Ah

[trim plinth]

yes, you see the raccoon fleeing when the greenhouse being repaired cutscene plays

[ocean temple]

https://x.com/concernedape/status/1837953798289199323

ConcernedApe (@ConcernedApe) on X

Release date for Stardew Valley console & mobile 1.6 update: November 4th

Twitter · Sep 22, 2024, 8:35 PM

[trim plinth]

A rarecrow vanished. My run that was supposed to be non joja all the way is ruined.

[rose knoll]

They show up in the Night Market I believe

Once you've unlocked them

Or did it vanish before being unlocked?

[trim plinth]

Yes it is too far away. If I had realized it was missing before the first night market occurred, that would have been ok, but now I will have to wait a full year for the night market.

I remember even seeing it on sold in the night market. Nope I do not need it, already have it. Well no. I guess it got struck by thunder.

[rigid breach]

FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I CAUGHT THE ANGLER

3 more legendary fish

[finite night]

1.6 for mobile out yet?

[trim plinth]

#archived-update-spoilers message

[north slate]

https://x.com/concernedape/status/1837953798289199323

[rigid breach]

gang should i finally invest in magic bait

then on the day i get the 3 easy fish catch from statue of blessings i'm using them for my last 3 legendary fish catch

(technically hard, but we'll make it work)

[rigid breach]

im at the point where im making lists of what to do for perfection- 💀

i can cook everything now atp since i have most of the ingredients

just need to get the banana pudding recipe

😭

[rigid breach]

two more recipes

poi - need 1 more taro root (GI)
banana pudding - recipe from gus

[leaden stratus]

looking good

[trim plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E7ZGCfruaw

[safe gust]

Is that Year 1? Because dayum bro

[leaden stratus]

y1

[leaden stratus]

even better

[trim plinth]

smells like animation cancel

[leaden stratus]

and you're right

[quiet rampart]

I unlocked the bus on the 16th lmao

got lucky with fishing chests

[steel wyvern]

TIL Krobus rubs void mayo over himself to moisturise

Is that new dialogue?

well there goes my plan to have him as a roommate, ain't having that stench in the house

[safe gust]

Even more funny when you give him void egg and keep talking to him. It is heavily implied that shadow people are coming from those eggs.

But he gives me lucky lunches among other foods, so I am fine with him walking around the house.

[steel wyvern]

lucky lunches are nice but I'm addicted to those speed bonuses

[rigid breach]

HELLO

i finished my entire museum collection

HECK YEAH

one more stardrop

we fish for that one

[leaden stratus]

yeah it's not too hard

but I also upgraded my tools like 4 times

[hard ledge]

Hey, I'm on the 1.5 update(Xbox and Switch) but I have a question rq

Are there any new hair styles in 1.6?

[slender wagon]

I'm just making sure before I make another one, if Imake multiple statues of blessing gotten from farming mastery, will it give me multiple bufs and can those stack?

[opal terrace]

no

[trim plinth]

How can you compare a run with and without animation cancel ?

[regal ivy]

Yes

[hard ledge]

LETS GOOO

Thank you

[leaden stratus]

what are you even talking about now

[trim plinth]

You tell someone what they did is not too hard then say you also upgraded your tools. But comparing the pace of runs that are played with and without animation cancel makes close to no sense. That is what I am talking about.

[quiet rampart]

I mean, it's not hard even without animation cancel

you have to plan your route very carefully and get a bit lucky

[rigid breach]

TWO LEFT.

ONE LEFT.

I FUCKING DID IT

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

[marsh bison]

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

I ALSO HAVE ALL THE FISH

[hushed hare]

you know what could be a fun change for the legendaries: make it so you can catch one of each every year

it's still rare, but not budget breaking like the Qi quest, and you can keep experimenting with different catching methods and filling up multiple fish tanks

[safe gust]

absolutely based!
Legend is such an insane pain in the ass to catch even with boosts and preparations.

[rigid breach]

all the legendary fish are so painful to catch, i probably just got lucky with all the buffs (i used two bobbers to keep them even if im not reeling them in, and no enchantments either wtf)

[steel wyvern]

I find the most tedious part of catching the legend is finding it, took me like half a day before it appeared

[loud pine]

can i get rid of my dog? i am allergic

and can i rename my horse?

[hushed hare]

yes

not sure about the horse

why'd you get a dog if you're allergic?

[loud pine]

i got it 1 year ago and now i am allergic i found out

[hushed hare]

I think Krobus sells something called "butterfly powder" to get rid of pets

[loud pine]

okay thanks

[hushed hare]

as for the horse, check in the Wizard's basement, at the shrine

if that doesn't work, maybe editing the save file could

[safe gust]

Or maybe, demolish and rebuild the horse stable at Robin's shop? I didn't try that, so IDK.
Personally I would like to see name-tags being a thing in the future, something akin to what Minecraft has - can be fishing loot, named at the anvil and used by right-clicking the animal.

[warped panther]

i feel like if they add that itd just be an interactable gui like it already is with all animals except the pet/horse

rather than adding a whole item and process

[blazing echo]

no

[rose knoll]

Well - not directly. If you're crazy enough to edit a save (I highly recommend against it), it's doable

[loud pine]

i mean you can backup and try it

[rose knoll]

I've done a lot of save editing to fix things for other people, so I can tell you what to change if you really want, but you'd absolutely want to backup first

Can also swap the dog for a cat

[blazing echo]

i mean u can do that without save editing now

[rose knoll]

Without exiling your animal and starting from 0?

[blazing echo]

(i know what u mean dw)

[loud pine]

ah okay i was just curious

[wet cedar]

Should I set up a mushroom log area with pine trees or just wait until I have foraging mastery for the mystic trees?

[safe gust]

Mushroom logs give 5xp on each harvest, I wouldn't miss an opportunity on picking that XP

[wet cedar]

I mean im already lvl9 but I guess there's always the mastery exp goals

[high rampart]

I'd probably test them out with trash trees first before committing to mystic trees

[wet cedar]

I was just gonna look up a setup

[high rampart]

post an optimal setup if you find one please I'm thinking about giving them a try if there's a reasonable enough setup for them

[wet cedar]

https://youtu.be/Q3VRj6WaX8U?si=nJRzwoFr9mDxXuQE

This is a good video summing up everything

And she makes an optimal log+tapper farm in the quarry

But you can probably scale it down

[high rampart]

I'd love to turn the quarry into something actually useful

[kindred saddle]

342 kegs 🗿

[high rampart]

I don't like kegs tbh

I have three sheds of them and that's enough for me

I like having lots of different things going on

[kindred saddle]

lowk same, on one of my perfection saves i just turned the quarry into a little forrest, I had a visual mod that made the quarry all grassy and stuff so i just turned it into a little aesthetic corner

[high rampart]

right now I just bomb the quarry every now and then and that's quite boring. I didn't really think of repurposing it for some reason

I don't build outside of the farm since I always thought it looked ugly but the mushroom log setup is quite nice

[kindred saddle]

yeah i wouldve turned that place into a mystic tree mush log place but that save has been abandoned because i finished practically everything on it

[high rampart]

I'll probably just do pines since grinding all the seeds for mystics is slightly obnoxious

[tough remnant]

Blue are trees, brown are logs

This is only optimal for mystic trees with heavy tappers though. The increase in average quantity of un-processable red mushrooms exceeds the marginal loss in value from having heavy tapped mystic trees instead of mushroom logs

[rigid breach]

my final stardrop

also it's so cute how willy kinda just takes me in as his child

adorable

still wearing the cosplay LMAO

[distant seal]

Should I build a cabin even though it's meant for MP but for it's for SP instead?

[rigid breach]

tbh i used cabins as storage/for kegs first

before i had enough money for sheds

you're fine

[tough remnant]

You can, but you can't upgrade it without a farmhand

[rigid breach]

holy shit 72%

[arctic kindle]

How do you get that?

[arctic kindle]

Also how do u get a perfection tracker

Still early ish in the game ngl

[rigid breach]

u gotta catch all the fish, i finished them off by catching all the legendary fish in 1 day

then theres other stardrops from the secret woods, krobus, etc.

[rigid breach]

this is after getting 100 walnuts in ginger island

[arctic kindle]

Ooooo

[arctic kindle]

Secret woods!?

[rigid breach]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Old_Master_Cannoli

[rigid breach]

ginger island is after community center too

[arctic kindle]

Omg 💙 I always wondered what he was for

Yes yes.. I’ve heard stuff but I’m not going to ask for details because I’d rather find out myself

[modern sorrel]

Mushroom logs do work in the desert ?

i know they work in the quarry so they should work outside the farm

[distant seal]

I am so close to perfection

[sly wagon]

why did no one tell me another purple shorts will attack me when i get the purple shorts from lewis' secret basement 😭

scared the hell out of me

[gleaming marten]

forsaken undies!

[distant seal]

Is this legit still because I can't seem to hoe certain tiles?

[unborn quartz]

I think you can place things everywhere on this part of the island yes

You can still place flowers on garden pot, since they now count for beehouse

[cunning cove]

It’s legit
And the setup can be even better now that the flower can be planted in pots

[distant seal]

How

[chilly bloom]

Put pot down, put flower in pot

[gleaming marten]

one of the changes in 1.6 is that beehouses now work with flowers grown in garden pots

[chilly bloom]

They worded it weirdly by saying flowers could go in pots now when they always could

It was the behaviour with hives that changed

[cunning cove]

:((

Spare me it’s 3 am

[gleaming marten]

nope, straight to the dungeons with you

[cunning cove]

NOOOOOOO

[distant seal]

My issue is I can't plant in this area

Even with pot

I put pot

but it says I can't plant

[steady narwhal]

Gudbye

[chilly bloom]

You banished milky fishmunk

[steady narwhal]

Banished to the shadows

[fathom saffron]

Yup.

It let me plant in that spot

[steel wyvern]

Is there any real difference between the cheap and the 500k tortoise?

[lost coyote]

I don't think so.

[wet cedar]

I think the 500k one can give you iridium

[steel wyvern]

I think I'm past that need.

Presuming it's true, by the time you can afford to spend 500k on a pet, you've got more iridium than you can ever eat.

[rigid breach]

83%

[blazing kraken]

Meadowlands are a farm for animals right?

At what hearts, do pigs start spawning truffle

[quiet rampart]

yep, you start with a coop iirc

[quiet rampart]

0

[blazing kraken]

Do they find truffles in grass?

[quiet rampart]

in the ground

lol

[blazing kraken]

In the ground where there is grass?

[quiet rampart]

as long as they are fully grown and the conditions are met (not raining, has space, etc.), they will dig up at least one truffle

no it can be just dirt

[blazing kraken]

?

So they can find truffles where there is grass

[quiet rampart]

no, they find truffles anywhere

well not indoors, obviously

[blazing kraken]

Oh

So in the grass too okie ty

[quiet rampart]

yep

see [[Pig#Produce]] if you're a bit confused, I don't think I did a very good job at explaining lmao

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Pig#Produce

[blazing kraken]

Okie ty

[tough remnant]

Tall grass does impede truffle digging

Pigs need some patches without tall grass to dig, but they don't need many

[blazing kraken]

My whole farm has grass tho

Blue grass

😭

[opal terrace]

well better get scything

[blazing kraken]

How far do animals walk to eat grass?

[blazing echo]

pretty far id say

as long as they can reach it (aka no fence to stop them) they'll try to eat it

[tough remnant]

It'll be fine so long as you let the animals thin it out a little

[blazing kraken]

oki

[tough remnant]

Truffles can generate in the grass, it's just that pigs don't actually dig if they're standing on tall grass. So as long as pigs walk over a few grass-free tiles each day, they're fine

[steel wyvern]

The biggest problem with blue grass is that truffles are too well-camouflaged in it.

[opal terrace]

the better truffles mod is good for that

[thorn lance]

or auto grabber truffle mod

[trail meteor]

What is the best enchant for the iridium pan?

[safe gust]

"Archeologist" enchantment gives you 4x chance to earn Artifact Troves. In combination with Treasure Appraisal Guide book can give a lot of money.

[trail meteor]

Hmm okay

Not sure i have that book

I could open some artifact troves or wait for the bookseller and see if I get it ig

I'm in year 4 so it should appear in the shop

[loud pine]

what is the best enchantment for the pan

[tough remnant]

I'd typically say Generous, although Reaching and even Fisher also have arguments in their favour

[distant seal]

weird, idk what the issue is then

Idk if my save is broken idk

[fathom saffron]

Weird

[wild epoch]

Is there a reasonable method to get snake vertebrae in current PC patch (aside from treasure totems i guess)? Previously, artifact spots on ginger island would reroll on tilling the dirt, so you could reload your save to till a different number of tiles until you got it, but that seems to have been silently changed sometime 1.6+

[tough remnant]

Try Archaelogist enchantment. Dunno if it still works, but it used to be that the bonus roll on Archaeologist was effectively actually random

So you could reset day and get different results each time

[crisp ginkgo]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ef8vb7mF8a4?si=LdggkgRhTUbRHj6_ Why does it look like pease

[rigid breach]

good evening

i just realized i can just make lots of dehydrators

so i did just that

on a shed

so now i have a reason to upgrade that shed

[dreamy gust]

I love dehydrators so much

I just have the worst luck with fire quartz

Currently i got 20 running with cranberries

[rigid breach]

wait holy crap i was saving up so much of those from sc not knowing what to do 😭

and the mines too

just straight up hoarding my stuff

[regal ivy]

You can crystalarium fire quartz if you need

[rigid breach]

crystalarium is so based

(i use them for jades)

and some diamonds

[dreamy gust]

So yeah
I'm on year 3 Fall and I've been consistently running my dehydrators on multi harvest crops since Summer 1

Blueberries last for a good while, enough to last until cranberries, and the cranberries usually last through most of winter. Then i get my strawbs from the egg festival, and cycle repeats

A nice passive income alongside my wine shed and animals

[dreamy gust]

I just realized the other day that i can just

Make as much as i want and not stop at two

So now I'm running with 10 of them filled with jade

[blazing kraken]

Dehydrators, kegs, fish smokers, or preserve jars?

[hushed hare]

it's not about "or", it's about how much of each 😆

a full shed of dehydrators can process almost 700 fruit daily, so you don't really need that many

and I never went a full fishing route for my main source of income, but smoker process fast enough that you don't need many of those either

[blazing kraken]

Okie so assuming there's one shed of each

Which gives most money

[hushed hare]

products from kegs may be more expensive, but they take way longer than jars

it's up you your farming output to figure out your processing capacity

and do you really want to spend half of every in-game day refilling sheds?

[blazing kraken]

Nopee

So kegs are best money!? 😄

[warped panther]

they are

except you need significantly more of them to be able to process everything with a large yield

for example, if you had a field of 100 ancient fruit youd need 100 kegs to process it all but youd only 3 dehydrators

despite getting about 2x the value out of kegs its 35x slower to make wine than it is to make dried fruit

[blazing kraken]

Hmm but i don't like to keep reprocessing

[tough remnant]

One shed of each processor, dehydrator wins hands down. But that's an incredibly artificial limitation, because you can basically always build more machines

What really matters is how much money you get per crop

Processing time just affects how many machines you need to process your entire harvest

[wild epoch]

no, the delay itself also matters -- if you go full wine and delay your profit by 2 months, that's two months where you had less resources to reinvest into increasing crop yields/automation/advancing other content

[blazing kraken]

😵‍💫

Idk

[tough remnant]

Okay, casks are different because you can only have a small number of them

[blazing kraken]

Okie I guess dehydrators on ginger island

Kegs in farm

[wild epoch]

that's very true, and in the super-endgame limit casks are basically irrelevant, but imagine if you could have infinite casks: your profits are now half a year delayed. Perhaps you need money more immediately than in half a year

[silver crane]

Usually people have two houses to get more casks and space

[tough remnant]

But like... if you produce 500 fruit per week on average, you can process that with about 500 kegs, 300 preserves jars, or 15 dehydrators. Additional machines won't help at all.

So while dehydrators are the clear choice in terms of having the cheapest setup cost... they also make about half as much money overall as the kegs once the setup is maxed out.

[wild epoch]

which means dehydrators are the clear choice before you can manage to scrape together a bajillion kegs

[tough remnant]

Clear choice for the earlygame for sure

[blazing kraken]

U can get another house?

[hushed hare]

who would have guessed that a simple, cozy farming sim would end up having such an endgame with min-maxing profits/perday

[tough remnant]

Keg as much stuff as you can, dehydrate or jar what you can't

[hushed hare]

the cabin option at Robin's

[tough remnant]

Over time, the proportion of kegged stuff will steadily increase

[hushed hare]

it's main use is for multiplayer

[blazing kraken]

Ohhh i only play singleplayer tho

So kegs are better!

?

[hushed hare]

you can still build the base lvl cabins without upgrades as a solo player

[blazing kraken]

What's the best crops for each season

[wild epoch]

more kegs = more better. casks very doubtful

[tough remnant]

Yes, but also more expensive to get going. So you probably want to use cheaper options like dehydrators while your keg empire is building

[blazing kraken]

Maybe dehydrators are better in different seasons? Like cranberries in fall

[opal terrace]

you'd need a ton of dehydrators to process a reasonable amount of cranberries

[tough remnant]

Definitely more worthwhile considering the number of kegs you'd need to process that many cranberries

[opal terrace]

I think aiming for high value crops is better than trying with multi drop ones like cranberries

[tough remnant]

It is, mostly because they're actually better

[wild epoch]

true when you've got good kegging capacity, not so sure before then

[tough remnant]

Like, Ancient Fruit straight up makes more money over the course of a year than the best combination of seasonal crops

[blazing kraken]

I only grow ancient fruit in the greenhouse tho

[tough remnant]

Regardless of how you process it

Theoretically, having 5000 kegs or whatever to process your giant cranberry field is optimal.

In practice, fuck that

[wild epoch]

ok just quick calculation, dehydrators handle cranberries just fine: lets say you plant 200 cranberry seeds. This gives 422 cranberries/5 days, so ~85 crans/day. This takes just 17 dehydrators.

[blazing kraken]

?

I would need to see how many sheds I can fit on my farm because I need one for crystalarium, one for kegs, one for dehydrator, and another one for fish smoker maybe

[tough remnant]

A brief rundown of the top 10 crops in terms of pure profitability under ideal conditions (i.e. greenhouse or island, pre-established field for regrowth crops, field already covered in speedgro otherwise, etc.):

1. Hops (Pale Ale) - 420g/d
2. Starfruit (Wine) - 393g/d with HSG and Profession Swapping. Drops to 343g/d with no profession swapping
3. Ancient Fruit (Wine) - 330g/d
4. Sweet Gem Berry (Raw) - 212g/d with HSG, Agriculturalist, and eating +4 farming food before harvesting, and purchased seeds. Drops to 144g/d if using seedmaker to acquire seeds.
5. Pineapple (Wine) - 180g/d
6. Blueberries (Wine or Jelly) - 159g/d
7. Cranberries (Wine) - 133g/d
8. Pumpkin (Juice) - 130g/d with HSG + Profession Swapping. Drops to 112g/d with no profession swapping (Not accounting for giant crops, which are a major boost but difficult to calculate)
9. Strawberries (Wine) - 129g/d
10. Rhubarb (Wine) - 118g/d with HSG + Profession Swapping. Drops to 103g/d with no profession swapping

[wild epoch]

this is profitability per tract of land, which is basically never the limiting factor until you're batshit endgame

[tough remnant]

I'd disagree on that

[blazing kraken]

😭😭

[tough remnant]

Several farms have quite limited growing space

[blazing kraken]

I'm on meadowlands yep

[tough remnant]

The sketchier thing is the presumption of unlimited processing machines

That is lategame

But ultimately, the sandbox farm optimisation endgame is the only time that you can really calculate general profitability

Before that, it's so heavily contextual that generalising is impossible

[blazing kraken]

That's confusing to take in

That's confusing to take in..

Potato, blueberries

[tough remnant]

Simple version - that table tells you what's best

[blazing kraken]

Rhubarb strawberry

[tough remnant]

But if you can't have what's best, you have to make compromises

[steel wyvern]

Gotta say, meadowlands isn't exactly my favourite for farming.

[blazing kraken]

I'm on year 2, but still no dinosaur egg

[steel wyvern]

and focusing heavily on animal produce is just kind of prohibitively expensive early game, even with the headstart

[steel wyvern]

try skull cavern? Should get one on a dinosaur floor pretty easily. Pack a lot of staircases.

[tough remnant]

A full field of blueberries is better than the starfruit seeds you can't afford

[blazing kraken]

Dried blueberries or blueberry jelly

😭😭

[safe gust]

Dried blueberries give more money and takes a day to make them 👀

[tough remnant]

They give less money per fruit

Standard rule is process as much as possible into the highest value artisan good (per crop), use cheaper/faster processing for the excess

[distant seal]

Yeah dehydrator I use when I have a crazy excess

And need money

Is there a good hopper setup

I don't exactly fully understand them

Also I am so close to perfection

[silver crane]

Noice! Hope you complete all the stardrops soon!

Which one you missed?

[distant seal]

I just need to get married and have full hearts

[trim plinth]

You cannot walk through Hops at any stage of growth. Hops take time to grow, but once they are, they give 1 crop per day. Hops are fermented in kegs in 1-2 days, meaning they take less than a quarter of the time required for wine. They demand a daily attention to reach their full potential. They take more time per day than watching for higher value crops that will generate once every week and be processed every 10 days.
They are good, but they are time comsuptive.

[distant seal]

No, not hops

Hopper

[trim plinth]

Hoooo

They are unfinished content to me. Take more space than how useful they are.

[distant seal]

Also I am at a point where since I bought the golden clock, I don't have any other things I need to buy that are expensive

[silver crane]

Use stardrop tea to boost🤭

[distant seal]

So I can just buy gold probably

to make crystalariums

[trim plinth]

Yes you can gift an infinite amount of stardrop tea per day

[distant seal]

I have a question, is it worth trading golden mystery boxes for magic rock candy

or should I just open them

[trim plinth]

I think you will not find anything very useful if you have all the gold you need. I would trade them. SC runs are more fun than opening shiny boxes.

[distant seal]

Makes sense yeah and I do enjoy SC runs. I just need the dangerous mines achievement

I guess I can focus on decorating my farm to the max once I am done

well since I am done with money making

well I still well focus on money but just to make things easier

[trim plinth]

Dont you have any stardrop tea ?

[distant seal]

I have one

But I am not married yet

I am waiting until it rains

I could use a rain totem but I don't feel like rushing it

[trim plinth]

Enjoying the trip I see. The audacity of some people /jk

[distant seal]

Ginger ale or espresso

?

Which should I pick

for very good luck mining days

[trim plinth]

I like to use ginger ale when the statue of blessing gives me speed

otherwise espresso

But it is worth giving a try to both

A lot of luck means a lot of staircses, meaning you do not need to move around

It should balance out, but it remains rng

If you enter a level without any rock around, you need to go fast

[distant seal]

fair yeah

[trim plinth]

but if you have staircases, who cares

[distant seal]

I think I should use all my staircases in one run right?

Yeah I have over 200 staircases

[trim plinth]

kek

[distant seal]

and with the crystalarium shed making pure jade, it just works

[trim plinth]

Yes do as deep as you can

Some people use their staircases right away, other like to only skip levels that are bad

[distant seal]

I mix both

I notice I get good results when I at least staircase to level 100

and then use them whenever

[trim plinth]

I think spending everything right away gives better result. Depends how you like to roll, yes

[tidal depot]

Having stairs in reserve for infested levels is great.

[dreamy gust]

Or you can drink oil of garlic to avoid the infested floors

[woven tusk]

I'm not sure that works in SC

(Checks wiki)

Oh, it doesn't work in Dangerous Mode SC. Okay. It still works in regular SC

[opal terrace]

it does

[woven tusk]

That'd explain why I still ran into infestations and flier hordes when I tried it

[dreamy gust]

And it doesn't remove all enemies like in the mines
Just swarms and infestations

Oh it doesn't work at all in the dangerous versions?
Good to know

[woven tusk]

Ye, now I get it

[green igloo]

So happy it’s coming to console

[distant seal]

Yeah I kept it on dangerous for SC

Wait is there any other advantage to Dangerous SC besides radioactive ores

[leaden stratus]

not really

[leaden stratus]

unless you are going for treasure chests speed is always better

[void cave]

is there a recommended order to take masteries in?

[unborn quartz]

No, choose the one you'd personally benefit more from

[woven tusk]

Most folks recommend Farming first.
Even that is negotiable depending on circumstance (I got Mastery in winter, so I didn't have a lot of crops for the Iridium Scythe to harvest)

[trim plinth]

Farming, then mining. They both help developing, while others are more like bonuses

[unborn quartz]

That's why it depends on personal need, if you're at a point you don't need to develop more, then these are not always a priority ^^

[trim plinth]

That is true. It depends how early you had mastery. If it is year 1, I recommend that order. Both statues make your daily routine better and make your work/time more efficient/valuable.

Now if you do not have enough moss and have nothing to harvest and it is winter, farming first is indeed questionnable

[void cave]

I'm probably wanting something that may help speed up diving in the sc so i can get to the island, farm i probably wont expand too much more from here

I'll have a read of everything properly when i go back on

[trim plinth]

Mining statue sometimes gives more chances to get staircases.

Statue of blessing sometimes gives speed or luck boosts

they both help in your case

Heavy furnaces from mining are really good to make the most of your ores

[void cave]

oo, I'll read those first, thank you

[woven tusk]

Mining is also coincidentally probably the fastest EXP source for getting more Masteries

Iridium ore nodes are worth a jaw-dropping 50EXP each

A deep delve may have you smashing hundreds of them

[void cave]

oh nice

[woven tusk]

I don't know whether it's winter in your game, but if it is... do try to get Farming Mastery by early spring, that scythe really is no joke

[void cave]

it's spring got my last level during the desert festival

[woven tusk]

Ooh, of course. Calico egg nodes are also 50EXP and they're hecking everywhere during the desert fest

Oh wait

[opal terrace]

mining and farming masteries will contribute the most to getting more xp which means you can get the rest faster

[woven tusk]

You mean your last regular skill level, huh

Oof

Then maybe farming is worth considering first after all

[void cave]

do you get more exp for harvesting with the scythe? because it doesn't take that long to harvest the farm space I'm using

[trim plinth]

It's more about the time you gain by doing it

more time to do something else means more xp

[opal terrace]

no
but it's much quicker to harvest big fields with it

[rose knoll]

The EXP is tied to the crop itself, so the scythe is just the superior option

It does let you do 5x5 blocks of trellis crops around a sprinkler without junimos though, it has a longer reach

[void cave]

oh that would be useful, i dont normally plant that many trellis plants with them being impassable

[rose knoll]

Yeah - 3x3s are obnoxious, but a 5x5 is 96% density and you can just walk around it swinging

Bigger value in modded where there's a lot more trellis crops though, but it still makes hops and grapes easier in vanilla

[woven tusk]

Even in vanilla there's something else funny that it enables

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1218308416825462974/1228804193771585607/image.png?ex=67039bd5&is=67024a55&hm=07ff036208eadb4e1a606c14cef177e43f147f7f70149bfada269e25b3dac02a&

The scythe can reach every garden pot in this photo

Dx Retaining Soil means they don't need rewatering

Pineapple time

(I ran out of clay before I could try this properly myself tho)

[void cave]

even if you didn't set it up with dx retaining wouldn't an iridium can reach everything too? (though i would imagine that it's not worth trying without using dx retaining on it)

[woven tusk]

It would.

And yeah, efffff that hassle

[rose knoll]

It would but the point is to have it basically ready for harvest right when the previous batch finishes

Without having to actually check in on it beyond what, once a week?

[void cave]

that's true, low effort but high reward

[woven tusk]

If you are willing to vandalize the overworld (more) with kegs, you can replace all the kegs here with more garden pots. This setup is to allow the kegs to partially piggyback on the higher-density layout that the scythe enables

[void cave]

there's space on the farm that I wont get round to actually farming because lazy i guess so i could just place them all out the way but still on the farm

I worry about placing something in the wrong place and finding it missing bc i left it in someones pathway

[woven tusk]

Or fill it with more sheds with just kegs as a brewery

[void cave]

that would probably be wiser

though i wont go as crazy as that all sheds photo that was shared in seasoned farmers

[rose knoll]

If you get a perfect 50:50 ratio, I think Ancient Fruit has basically perfect uptime (7 day cycle for fruit, and 7 day for wine I believe?)

[opal terrace]

6 days for wine

well
six and a quarter

so it almost matches up

[void cave]

that's what I've done previously, had my greenhouse full of AF and a shed with kegs i only went in when the fruit was ready (i always forget what day harvest day was meant to be and they were planted on different days)

[trim plinth]

I wonder how Demetrius manages to setup the fruit bat cavern while it is completely surrounded by impassable rocks on the meadowlands farm.

[rose knoll]

Magic - It's also instantaneous. (And the bane of debugging things that require money)

[trim plinth]

It's less a bug than a map design issue to me. Meadowlands farm is really special. Water access is further than in other maps. Cavern is unreachable from the start and far away. I suspect Demetrius to have direct access to the cavern from a trapdoor hidden in the mines. I would not be sruprised he watches me sleeping at night.

[dreamy gust]

Real talk i hate that the cave is there

It's so out of the way compared to the other farms

[rose knoll]

More so that any time you're trying to debug something related to money, as soon as you cross 25k, he shows up and ruins your day with an unskippable cutscene.

[opal terrace]

The cave is so insignificant later on that I do not care enough honestly

[dreamy gust]

I like Meadowland but it has teeny small bits that make me like it less

[trim plinth]

Agreed. Meadowlands is beautiful but its design is meh

[dreamy gust]

Fair enough honestly

I grabbed my dehydrator in summer Y1 and haven't been back there since

Went with the shrooms cause remixed bundles didn't have Artisan for once

[rose knoll]

The free dehydrator basically makes it the superior choice

[opal terrace]

Remixed bundles are a wild adventure because either you have one different thing or a hellish bundle you never want to complete

[leaden stratus]

I don't even think about bats because you need to buy trees anyway

[opal terrace]

You also get some from the ticket machine

But to be fair there's mushroom logs for the mushrooms

But the dehydrator is nice

[leaden stratus]

stardew valley made me hate apples

[dreamy gust]

I fought with my life for a single piece of iridium for Y1 CC

Because i both got Mechanic which needed ore, and the red cabbage was replaced with an iridium bar

And that was when the skull caverns were equal to hell for me

I also lucked out on the Traveling Cart selling a Scorpion Carp once so i only had to fish for 1 difficult fish for Master Angler

[misty wedge]

So i just unlocked Ginger Island, and i'm not sure how to efficiently go about doing it.
I just started Winter Y2 for reference, so i should have more days to go now, right?

[dreamy gust]

I mean yeah, that's what i did too
Waited for Winter Y2 when there was less things to do, but that was just a personal thing

[opal terrace]

I don't think you need to do it "efficiently" in any way
Quite the opposite even, I loved discovering all the secrets and solving the puzzles on GI

But to each their own

[misty wedge]

Hmm
i suppose its just a matter of taking some tent kits with me and keeping track of when my crops are ready to harvest.

[dreamy gust]

RACCOONS GAVE ME A SALMONBERRY

I can actually pull off the Ship All Items achievment this year and not have to wait for Y4 (yes, I never sold a single salmonberry in 3 years)

[opal terrace]

Damn

[trim plinth]

They are my precious as well

[rose knoll]

Huzzah. (Yeah, they're too good for energy and gifts early game, then generally worthless to pick up later)

It's a great way to power-heart Linus for all those good recipes

[dreamy gust]

All I'm missing now is an ostrich egg and a radioactive bar

[trim plinth]

And Robin and Demetrius and many others

[opal terrace]

Naw cuz like I always give Linus the good stuff like leeks gotta look out for him

[trim plinth]

Blackberries are also liked by many

[rose knoll]

I mean, he loves his berries - I just give him lots of nice forage.

[dreamy gust]

Nah leeks are for George

I give Linus my other forageables that are higher quality

[opal terrace]

Give that man all you got

[trim plinth]

I thought Linus was the easiest to make friend with, but Evelyne is really easy too now that she likes sea stuff

[misty wedge]

does quality matter?

[trim plinth]

Yes

[rose knoll]

You get bonus points for quality

[opal terrace]

She likes broken glasses I got a boatload of that shit

[trim plinth]

This is why gifting diamonds is overrated

[dreamy gust]

Yeah, more friendship points

[trim plinth]

diamonds do not have quality

[opal terrace]

It's funny how you can just keep giving Evelyn broken glasses and she keeps going "oh you found my reading glasses"
The dementia is kicking in

[trim plinth]

botanist and gatherer are so strong to make friends. But for so many other things too.

[dreamy gust]

Or she's just like Velma and keeps losing her glasses

[opal terrace]

I mean she is quite literally melting in her portrait she can't even keep her eyes open

[trim plinth]

Deluxe bait into crabtraps for quality broken glasses is THE optimized strat

[rose knoll]

I wish the foraging professions didn't basically push you to only ever make one choice (If you're not going 2x harvest chance + Iridium Quality, you're basically doing it wrong)

But the inventory bloat without Iridium just makes any other option terrible

[opal terrace]

Yeah the professions are not quite balanced

Really hoping HC will be more balanced overall than SDV

[trim plinth]

Yes the profession choice path has close to nothing to do with your strat. When you know what you are doing, there is no choice, just many bad ones and one that beats every others.