#archived-update-spoilers
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It does not change much from what I saw
I wouldn't say suck, but there also not much to write home about it
It's, well, alright
It's challenging, but still a breath of fresh air
Scythe
Gold Scythe
Iridium scythe
Well it's part of the challenge which makes it rewarding when you overcome it
no
no mods for that??
Some mods make till-able grass I think.
Or it makes it possible to plant crops at the very least on that grass
Thatās the point
There are mod farms that have tillable grass
Also, crops anywhere anytime
Decent moss farming method beside Green rain day?
plant a forest in quarry/railroad
Weave mossy seeds into the forest; when a mutant green rain tree has moss on it, adjacent regular trees will have increased moss rates too
I like to do this with my tapper groves
This is how I did it, but I think I actually got the spacing wrong. They might actually need to be one tree closer together to get full coverage
(And start one tree closer to the edge)
The existense of Perfection waiwers and Joja having a hold of them
Means that Mr Q is likely one of the most powerful persons on the stardew valley world, his activities likely has continental is not global reach
I try not to think too hard about it
It means he is either unable, or unwilling, to end the war
QI GEMS ARE RADIOACTIVE??????
are they?
Okay this definely places Qi on the top 5 strongest/wealthiest people on the stardew valley world
i dont think hes even the strongest in the vanilla game
He probably must be the biggest buissness man in the world's history, and again, Since joja, the ultrabig corporation has a special division dedicated to falsificating Mr Qi's stuff, it means that this guy is really really powerful
He says they are
hm
I believe that scene goes something like "I don't recommend putting them in your mouth. They're very radioactive."
The summit exploit scene has him oneshot the farmer, who wakes up in the clinic.
It is my headcanon that he punches the farmer in a straight shot from the mountain top right into the clinic bed, through Harvey's roof and second floor
One punch man disguise has evolved
Yes
stardew valley lore is something else
is it worth it to dehydrate cranberries?
The dehydrator effectively makes the Mushrooms or Fruits sell at gold quality price +5 each.
But artisan applies
If you can, jelly will make more money of your cranberries, but for cranberries you will need a lot preserve jars
I dispute this interpretation, as there's already precedent for what this looks like in game in the CC completion cutscene
yeah cranberries are like the perfect thing for dehydrators
What shuld I do on Ginger Island
i'm just collecting walnuts
just unlocked the farm
continue doing that
what crops do i plant
and why should i use the island farm when i have my developed farm already
There are no seasons on ginger island so any crops can grow there
Plus all trees will always fruit (I think)
Pineapples, ancient fruit, taro, starfruit, strawberries, pumpkins, whatever you want including flowers
no
but i have a greenhouse
Yes think of ginger island farm as an extra larger greenhouse where you can put beehives
And trees, I think CA made it so that you canāt put trees inside the greenhouse anymore (unfortunately) by the sides
ID jutsu time then
I honestly donāt know what happens if you just click that option without getting the ostrich egg though
I mean
Probably should still
Yeah probably
And you can get the egg from volcano rare chests
It doesnāt just have a single way to obtain it
True but volcano rare chests are volcano rare chests b

They arenāt that reliable
What
I do have an anecdote where i get my ostrich egg in a chest before the actual guarantee ostrich egg
But
Getting an ostrich egg from a volcano rare chest is an ordeal itself
The desire sensor works overtime to prevent you from getting it both ways when you need it
I thought you could still put fruit trees in the greenhouse..
You can
I know itās possible. Just rare as hell
Did you put them too close to each other
Did you put them too close to another physical object that isn't the bg
No
Not you
Ah okay
they're more common than common chests due to level 9 having higher affinity towards them
it is annoying though, yeah
Getting to level 9 itself can be very annoying
if you don't mess up with your first egg you'll be fine though
Since the gate from forge to lvl 9 is always locked
Not that annoying
it's not all that bad
But the chest pool is kinda big
me when the game won't give me the journal scrap
especially when you've gotten up a first time and can upgrade tools and weapons
True only one nuisance really gets me mad, that orange flame sprite thing
fair
False
I have done it multiple times.
This was such an annoyance when i was doing my perfection run i literally settled for finding an egg from a volcano chest instead of finding the journal scrap
Oh really, maybe I am misremembering but I remember reading about that in a log about the changes
Good to know
I'd fire up my game to show you my mango tree on the sideline but I need to go to work soon
Sorry about that misinfo then
it used to be a bug but then CA put it in as a feature, so it would be weird to remove it now
Oh I understand what happened
I mistook the removal of the bug for the removal of the feature
Thks
It was technically removed but that was ages ago
and it was brought up in the next major update
I think it was gone 1.1-1.2 or smt
no way
yes way
so extended family roe is gonna be a real thing?
not only
and not just a lil hidden unintended thing
every legendary can be put into the pond
There is a legendary fish roe hunt?
le book
basically
in current patch
you can get roe from fishing treasure chests via a special book power
and it applies to all fish
incl those that cant normally get roe
(legendary fish, extended family, squid, midnight squid)
so the challenge is to perfect catch every legendary fish w/ challenge bait and get a chest with at least 2 roe
so then you get the bait, fish, smoked fish, roe, and aged roe versions of every legendary fish
and having the capability to put them in fish ponds makes this wayyy easier
Tbf if people are doing that challenge they wouldnāt be doing ponds-
true
but my challenge is just all items
so ponds are helpful for me
Yeah itās pretty awesome!
is that for a mod, or is it going to be a vanilla feature?
Ong piss colored pond
Seems vanilla
that's gonna be cool :D
vanilla!
that's awesome! I'm really glad to see that more stuff is still coming for 1.6 and not being pushed off until (a potential) 1.7. the coming changes look solid
yeah, he really loves this game and it shows
it's true. it's also just refreshing, in an era where lots of devs just pump something out and then forget about it, that Stardew continues to receive these labor of love updates for free. CA just wants people to be able to chill and have fun, and I appreciate his dedication to his fans and his game.
he's not in it for the money, and that's what makes Stardew shine.
woaaaaah this is new? like just released?
yeah its very lowkey though
it released like last week
It's probably a bug. Nothing about this listed in changelog, and the yellow colour indicates that it's probably reading a fish with no associated pond data, so it's just applying the water overlay on top of the yellow dirt in the background

also hi Sic -- i havent seen you in a minute
Yeah, been playing other games
oh okay i kinda just assumed it was vanilla hehe
seemed too coincidental with the 1/1 
1/1 is normal for all expensive fish when first put in
oh oops lol
Limit only increases later
true idk how i forgot that
tired
So yeah, probably not gonna stick around for release
dont crush my dreams pls 
Related to some changes made with Jewels of the Sea most likely.
i just want a pink fish pond ....!!!!!
it's not a bug. this was added intentionally in today's update. you can see it if you compare the previous and current versions. beta patch notes are not updated or are updated rarely, but the beta update comes out every day
Sooo do we know if in thr future we will have an option to save w/o sleeping?
I'm pretty sure it's a bug and that I know exactly what caused it
CA accidentally removed the ability to get roe from Jewels of the Sea when catching legendary fish/extended family, as part of a change meant to support modded "fish" that don't provide roe when caught
Also the water is yellow even on grass
I just tested in-game lol
I had to move my whole house to test itā¦
piss color is gold color... 
And empty out my prestigious 10 clam fish pond (Though I did not save)
Huh, very unexpected, I knew they got the has_roe tag added because that was needed to fix Jewels of the Sea no longer working foe them
Honestly, sad, I liked having rare / difficult to obtain collector items from fishing
I like rare items but items that are locked if you miss them once annoy me, so I consider this a win
Original legendary fish tho
extended family isn't a problem but the og ones are
that is if you're doing a one player file
hi sorry for interrupt the convo
but-
how many times do i have to gift the raccoon šš
i just want the achievement but it feels so looong
alrd in year 3 š
Eh, I'd rather they add the ability to return the legendary fish into the wild personally
So you can recatch them
Thatād be a good way to do it
Circumvent the issue permanently
Or maybe just like how the statue of perfection respawns if destroyed
Iirc the requests are endless but thereās a certain point where you get the achievement for being a good neighbor
So if you ate a legendary itād respawn
But you could only have one at a time
Sashimi Legend 
Nah, cause if you sell them they're supposed to be a one-off
dang it
atp i feel like i dont wanna do it anymore
I think it's a reasonable assumption that anybody who cares about rare collector items probably held onto the legendary fish
After completing 9 requests you get the achievment
Can confirm
I know theyāre supposed to but like I disagree with the design decision to lock items from a save forever just fundamentally
Nah, same deal as Joja vs CC route
i dont remember how much i did already huhu
but thank youuuu!!!
maybe i just need some more
Like itās not a problem for me, I have all the fish in an aquarium, but not everyone is gonna realise theyāre one-offs if theyāre not reading a wiki
Itās the thank you, bobo that just gets to me ngl, bobo is stupid in another language š
I help you raise your family and get a wife, and you call me stupid??? This damn raccoon man
SO BRO IS HARRASSING ME AFTER I HELPED HIM?? šš
whats your current request for? do you remember?
I donāt think it was the intent, itās just funny when you take into account another language that translates it to a diff meaning. 
last time is dried strawberries and jelly
iirc
yess XD
Yepš can confirm XD
Filipino language
I mean, you get a special alert for them when caught, they look extremely distinct when hooked, and they're basically secret easter eggs that you need to decipher their location using books from the museum library.
They were always obviously special, even back at launch
Even the weird note items you can get by putting random items into boxes are renewable though, but fish you can normally catch over and over arenāt?
Special and one-off are not the same thing
Well im assuming it definitely wasnt your second request since you'd remember that you've done 2 - which means you've done at least 6. If you go onto the wiki it has all the information on there, the racoons have 5 set request types and will just randomize them at the 6th request upwards. so you've got at maximum 3 requests left for the achievment
No they aren't? Or at least, they didn't used to be
Can't say I've tested that since like... 1.2 maybe
is the request appear every weeks? or just random?
every 7 days yes
okayy
im going too sleep with tent in front of their house for a whole season
Lmaoo, i dont blame you. Good luck with the requests š¤
Iām pretty sure it is but Iāll go test
I think it's one per player
Same as legendary fish
Speaking of which, that is a way to reobtain legendary fish in a save lol
Just add a new farmhand
Same goes for the mine chest weapons
And don't forget the Rusty Sword
that too
They are
I just got two of the one with the heart in the saloon at once
Weird. Wonder when that changed
This just kind of shows the limit is arbitrary
Itās just kind of annoying for people who want singleplayer
Not really, one per player limit is very much significant and important for game balance
Itās not like itād even make fishing OP given the level requirements and such, one expensive fish a day at level 10 isnāt even gonna touch farming
Huh? It absolutely would
Fishing levels stupidly fast
It's already king in Spring Y1 with just catfish spam and a single Legend
Crimsonfish spam in summer would be busted
And you could just sell the fish to Willy each catch, no end of day needed
Obviously there would be some kind of cooldown on fish
Maybe could do some kind of really slow respawn time similar to how tea set eventually becomes available from travelling cart
And there's extended family
Extended family already replace the originals during quests if you havenāt caught them
So no change there
dang
Yo btw I think it was announced by one of the devs that it's advised not to talk about 1.6.9 everywhere, I mean it's public beta but yk
Itās fine to be discussed here
if(year>num_catchesĆ5) or something like that might be a good rule
Got posted on Reddit now I believe but I think it's still talked about in hush
OH dang what
Itās just not good like too public
Oh yeah for sure
uh oh
By who
Like not hush hush confidential
it's in before the algorithm picks up
If it got posted by anyone that isnāt affiliated with CA it needs to be taken down
I actually googled it just now cuz I couldn't find the beta release in the forum and there's a Reddit post on it
I donāt think thatās supposed to be up
Okay thank you
Oh...
Honestly Iād say maybe they could respawn once a season (If the game detects you donāt have a legendary in chests, fish tanks, and the like)
Thatād keep all of year 1 identical to how it is now
lmao every year
Meh itās prob fine since it got only like 5 upvotes and itās prob mostly for people looking for it specifically
Just reread what Pathos had to say about it
Please do not share that link online (e.g. Reddit or Twitter). Ideally we'd like a low-key beta without media attention, since we just want to find bugs before release and help modders get mod updates ready. However, feel free to post it on Discord or in DMs to anyone who might be interested.
Yeah. Iām gonna see that it gets taken down
Eh, that's waaaaay before most people have access to Walnut Room, which is definitely something I think should come first in a typical playthrough
It could possibly get the Streisand effect
Thankfully (and hopefully), 1.6.9 doesn't look like it's gonna cause a modpocalypse but anywho
Man Iām too young for this I think lol
It's just a term to describe how if someone tries to get rid of something causes attention rather than keeping it low
Ohhh I see lolol
I think the gameplay experience of needing to absolutely nail the catch because you only have the one chance is definitely distinctive and engaging and differentiates the Legendaries from other fish
That experience goes away if you can just catch them again every year or whatever
I get the frustration but 1.6 hasn't been out for that long so I do hope people have an understanding to equip a bit of decorum and patience when addressing the fact that 1.6 is still a work in progress and it takes a lot of work
The restrictions are what differentiates them and makes them interesting
Youād only catch a second one if you got rid of the first one in some way, your proposed method of releasing them really only changes whether or not you can sell them
Yeah
So Iām not seeing your point
Which is why I was a maybe on the former
I think they should not be sold or crafted into any recipe requiring fish
Making them not sellable at all is an interesting take
Let the legendaries 2 follow the norm
Eh, sellable is a major part of them. I do agree that they shouldn't be usable in cooking
Shouldn't be usable as "any fish" anyway
Yeah, that I do agree with
and fertilizer
Yeah
Also heās doing it for free lol
Ppl forget that for some reason
Let modded recipes use legendaries if they specify it
Profit-wise I think theyāre a nice boost in the early-game, theyāre not bad year 2 but theyāre beaten out by like, 20 ancient fruit, which I donāt even think is half of my greenhouse
This is based on a smoked legend
Honestly lol I saw someone say something about feeling that they were left in the dust and when someone replied āitās a FREE DLCā they went on saying they paid for it. Hence, according to them, PC mobile and console shouldve had the same release for 1.6
Assuming one per season
At that point, I just left it at it is. Iām not engaging in this type of convo lol
Iām confused, are they trying to say they paid for 1.6?
They paid for the game, it seems. Hence, they felt it was unfair that PC got 1.6 first.
Oh, Iām not sure I get the point theyāre making then tbh
Yeah, you paid for the game as it was back then, content after that is stuff being given
Stardew isnāt early access
Me either lol people were explaining it to that one Twitter user but they werenāt too receptive abt it so
Yeah people usually arenāt 
The major thing about selling them versus keeping them as collectbles IMO is that it ties into the actual theming of the game. Choosing to sell a rare and fabled creature for profit goes against the general pastoralist fantasy of the game. It's choosing capitalism/profiteering over harmony with nature - a valid choice, but one that generally carries some weight in the game
This is the game where you can have 150 furnaces and the river is always filled with trash even after you run Joja out so
That feels like a reach
Also I think collecting endangered creatures to store isnāt exactly ethical either
Furnaces aren't corporate/industrial, they generally all in line with the pastoralist fantasy
Sufficiently old-timey and manual in nature
There's a reason why actual automation has never been added to the game though
or maybe it aint that deep.....
people play how they want, theyre a nice money boost y1
esp with smokers being added to the game lol
Yes, but consequences for those decisions makes the decisions much more interesting
Completionist gameplay is different from "rush maximum money" gameplay
Itās not even a consequence, itās just annoying for anyone looking to do stuff in late game who rushed early game
consequence where ;-; like boohoo i didnt hold onto this one item that does nothing...
Same basic consequence as picking Joja over CC, you end up with a less satisfying endgame state
I guess but one gives you a literal warning about it
The other doesnāt
If I can sell infinite stingrays, why canāt I sell one legend?
Eh, I think it just depends on how the player wants to play the game. Wouldnāt call it a consequence, more like a ādamn, welp, anywayā moment. I hoard, too, esp collectibles like legends I canāt get anymore.
I get where youāre coming from, though.
Stingrays don't have anything that suggests they're special or unique in any way
Neither does the extended family even
Yeah but my point was to do with your point about environmentalism
Not environmentalism, pastoralism
You can catch infinite of every fish, why would there suddenly be a punishment because one is rare?
Different theme
One is legendary, others are common. Think of stuff like say... Princess Mononoke, if you've seen it. Hunting everyday wildlife, absolutely fine. Hunting the legendary forest spirit animals? Terrible karma, doom upon your entire society
Same game where you can dove your children with no in-game consequence :p
There are
Actually you get a free artefact out of it
(There are consequences doving your kids btw
) anyway, yāall can continue
You are in fact cursed and get harassed by haunted dolls each time you go to dove another pair of children š
You mean the bat reskin?
Bat reskin š man
Thatās a one-time small inconvenience, not losing an item from a save permanently
Unless youāre doving hundreds of children that barely matters
Which if you are, youāre either BlaDe, or otherwise doing it intentionally
Point is, it is a consequence
A very very minor one, yeah
Thatās not the same as locking an item from a save forever
That's less of a consequence TBH
"I don't have the original version of this fish to put in my display aquarium and instead have to settle for the extended family version"
Extended family fish are just entirely different fish so
Different sprites, names, theyāre just in the same spot and reference the other one
So basically youāre saying making them renewable would have very little gameplay change :p
It's kinda the whole point
The only real change would be not arbitrarily locking a collectible
Once extended family is available, yeah. The impact is thematic, not mechanical
Thematic to what? Being annoying for collectors? Itās not more ethical to hoard endangered fish so itās not thematic to the gameās theme, making them only show up one in a long timeframe keeps the rarity, and it wouldnāt affect most CC runs since they end in year 1
The theme isn't about ethics
Or just anyone who didnāt read the wiki
Joja isn't less ethical than CC
Arguably it actually has better practical outcomes for the valley
Greater employment, local development and business investment, more people in the town, Clint still works Fridays...
Cheaper grocery prices
The game itself constantly disagrees with this mindset regardless of how you feel
They treat Joja as the bad ending for a reason
Everyone who works at Joja hates it, Joja constantly disregards safety, heck, the main guy is a comically conniving manager
Most trash in the rivers is from Joja too lol
They don't really. They treat it almost identically, and it's up to the player if they think it was worth it
Nah, like, 1/4 tops
1/5th actually
That it still an alarmingly high amount of CDs and soda cans
Driftwood, broken glasses, broken CD, newspaper, Joja Cola
I don't think the CDs are Joja?
They say in the description they are
Hmm, don't remember that
āIt's a JojaNet 2.0 trial CD. They must've made a billion of these things.ā
That's definitely way shadier than the cola lol. Soft drink can littering is super common and can't really be blamed on the manufacturer
That's just people being shit
But there's almost no computers in the Valley
Theyāre definitely implied to just be dumping stuff
Those trial CDs weren't coming from the people
The counterpoint to it being implied is that they have plausible deniability š
The only environmental disaster we know for sure that they caused was the landslide that blocks the mines for the first few days of a new save, IIRC
And that one they took responsibility for and had properly cleared
Yeah but if a game is constantly giving me subtext about them being evil Iām probably not gonna jump through hoops to pretend they arenāt
fishing over someone to assert dominance
His cast is weak, he deserves what he gets
Everyone in SDV universe is like getting regular ass fish and trash
With how weak their casting game is lol
the weak must fear the strong
And the subtext for the legendary fish is "maybe selling a unique part of the valley's identity and heritage is a bad idea - you might regret it later but then it's too late" š
probably why Willy loses the Fair grange lol
Always feel bad when the dude loses tbh
Man fishies never get appreciated
This is a big stretch compared to āHey the guys who are evil are evilā
yeah
Willy is a really good guy too, like one among the few in Pelican town lol
the only grange contestant that doesn't deserve a high place is Pierre I think lol
I think Marnie should win
Pierre can pound sand bruh lol
the cheese is big
but you still get 1000 fair points š


Honestly, my favourite subtext is about the prevalence of smalltown scandals, like Abigail's paternity, Pierre being a conniving shit, and Lewis's inexplicably secretive affair with Marnie
Also the gold statue
Yep it's surprising how fucked up Pelican town is
Past all the underlying vibe lol
I love how the SDV debate on the legendaryās value took on so long š
I applaud the back and forth convo š
Yeah those are fun
Tiny country towns are always corrupt and CA clearly recognises this
I actually don't get the Lewis and Marnie relationship is, like what's the issue? I'm clueless 
I lurked, looked at the convo, and was like,
"Nah fuck this I'm out"

like both are single and stuff
Lewis thinking the publicity might impact his reputation most likely.
The simplest point to say would be just that Marnie deserves better, really
Something something Lewis is basically the autocratic head of local government and is worried about perceived bias in his rule
Marlon has interest in Marnie and would be so much better as her partner
Pretty much, yeah. Itās the fear of people thinking heās biased with Marnie, esp since itās established that he does collect tax from business owners.
I still don't get why Lewis thinks that way then
like I think it's more sus he doesn't have a wife
I'm just glad it's not whole fucko town though, we still have pure peeps like Linus, Willy, George and Evelyn happy marriage, and the kids
than him being with Marnie
I would include Gunther but he's barely built upon in vanilla
I think people hate Gunther lol
guy states the most obvious shit when you donate your artifacts and minerals
like
Oh I always blazed past all his description shenanigans
"this rusty spoon was used in the old days"
So I missed that, lmao
Don't forget the weird small town spring fertility festival where women become ineligible for the title of flower queen once married
I think it's fine since married women can still technically join
I mean I still kind of stand w that theory that he was well off and he just decided to let all of it go, back to nature stuff
wdym by back to nature lol
Literal sense of the word, man decided to just to live life by nature, grounded on his philosophies
Not to mention he rejects treasure chests so like
Still gives me some real Midsommar vibes
Although actually I think Midsommar came out later so it just retroactively changed how I perceived the Flower Dance lol
Morris was being punched upward. The farmer is being punched downward. These are exact opposites and are logically portrayed very differently 
after countless hours of pain i finally moved slime hutch without it getting shrink
Lol bye
Imagine thinking the game = the dlc 
My small mushroom log set up with 17 logs finally started producing
And I got like 8k worth of mushrooms from just the first harvest
Wow
I can't wait till I get more logs amd trees
Aye, mushroom log farm can pretty nice for gold
Though efficiency wise in terms of tiles used it still can't beat AF/SF but frankly any new moneymaker is welcomed
I don't even have dehydrators yet and that was still a lot of gold
Yeah but you can do this pretty easily in the early game
I am at the fall of year 1
I have 0 ancient fruits
And I didn't unlock the bus yet to get starfruits
So this is amazing
Doing great!
Well correction
I unlocked the bus
2 in game days ago
Too late to start doing starfruits
And I don't have the green house yet so yeah
Dehydrator gives pretty much nothing when what you process is iridium quality
Ya Iād only use it for normal
5 iridium morels = 1500; dehydrated it was like 1650 with artisan
Well thankfully
My set up is not that good yet to be making iridium quality mushrooms all the time
And I have the mushroom cave too
So I should still grab a few
Yes I dont say it's useless. I say they are exceptions to the rule and ways to make profit.
True
If we stick a milk into dehydrator what would it turn into I wonder (IRL)
Just a sheet of protein? Lmao.
milk powder
Revolutionary!
we need butter
Should my new farm be Four Corners? I've heard it's pretty freaking good thanks to having the variety of the other farm types.
This is for when 1.6 comes, maybe.
in order to get just "milk protein" you'd have to curdle the milk first right? then dry the whey left?
butter and sour cream 
It's nice, but I find the beach more game changing
I'm not looking for a challenge-
Yeah that's what I'm thinking but then again a couple of processing machines in stardew just straight up skip some steps
You could also try out the new farm type and experience something new
So I figured, fuck it, straight up "milk protein"
I had fun on my 4 corner map
there's casein and whey proteins
I also realized I haven't played the game since 1.6 released on PC-
go get in there
1.6 blind is pretty exciting if you haven't gotten absolutely spoiled yet
That's why I'm waiting
I'm on the crappy asf Nintendo Switch-
ahhh console
I think I should have moved the greenhouse
It can, mystic tree mushroom log spam is actually very efficient if fully minmaxed. It's just also insanely more effort and setup time than AF/SF farming.
And at that point, you're better off switching to the other high setup time strat, which is densely packed golden chicken coops
Or sheep barns if you're pre-perfection
That's fair, sadly tbh lol
crops that just straight up grow mushrooms when

Carrots are so good as consumable. Making pickles with them must be very strong, for even better consumable.
Wait theres carrots now
raisins for junimo huts are worth it, right? i planted grapes as a fence on fern island farm
(got answer, thanks)
Wait thatās so cute
do i need to carry the monster compendium to get double loot or is it just activated by finding it?
oooh ok
p sure raisins just make em happy. afaik doesnt affect gameplay or function?
wiki says it gives a chance for junimos to get 2 from 1 crop
this would be great on starfruit
guess i gotta find a load of grapes
What mastery should i get first?
Raisins increase crop yields by 20% when junimos harvest them
id reccomend farming
This is admittedly not well explained in game
that scythe helps me not to go insane harvesting this field
Hmm
yeah, there's a lot of that in Stardew Valley unfortunately
Aye, it's just mentioned that raisins being their favourite annnnd that's it, lol
I mean it's specifically mentioned that "there is no better helper than a raisin fed junimo"
Which I feel like that's enough hinting that giving junimos raisins is a good idea
They don't tend to give a lot of numbers in-game, which is probably for the best because most people are bad at interpreting numbers
I still despise the g/d calculations for crops on the wiki
Because they're not wrong per se, they're just useless for most players because they're based on unwritten assumptions
However they can massively mislead people
Similar to stuff like the classic "jelly is more profitable than wine because it processes faster, and that means if has a higher g/d", which is technically true... if you were comparing a single preserves jar versus a single keg, and had an infinite supply of fruit.
Oh fr, and literally everyone taking the stupid crop calculator way out of useable context
I wonder if baits work for Qi's Prismatic Grange
How did JAS of all people get a magic rock candy
targeted bait? it does
#archived-update-spoilers message I found that out by accident
This is pretty interesting. Too bad I do not know which fish will give which bait color.
Your solution looks pretty cheap 
my guess? the color of the fish will work for the bait
like, Lobster is valid for red
lobster bait will be too
Yeah I have issues being sure if sometimes it's red/purple/blue
lobster looks pretty orange to me
Oh, but each fish gives 5-10 bait... I see the logic now
what about this, Bullhead is counted as orange for dyeing, but does not work for the challenge
but how about the bait?
Ooh
So fish can go from "invalid" to "valid multiple times over" via bait machine 
That's good stuff, thank you
well, I'm not sure
I'm speculating
someone needs to test that particular case
are there fish that don't work for dyeing at all?
would their bait work 
snail bait is yellow
bug meat counts as purple, but the bait made of it is not valid ?
yeah, regular bait would be OP
[[Dyeing]]
sap for yellow is one of the easiest things to collect for the challenge
fish bait makes the challenge so easy, because all of the hard to get colors (orange, blue, purple) are attainable at GI and you only need like, 15 fish
purple from super cucumber ?
Void essence.
iridium ore is also purple
But I am looking for cheap baits. I know I should not be this greedy bc I obviously have the money for more expensive options. But I want to be cheap.
i usually do:
spaghetti for red
for orange, i forgot
for yellow, hay
for green, salad
Sap's your cheapest one lol
used all for deluxe fertiliser
But I'd do void essences for purple if I were you. Iridium ore, when you don't have surplus to spare, isn't "cheap"
- Salmonberry/crab bait = red
- Copper ore = orange
- Sap = yellow
- Tea leaves/Fiber = green
- Clam/Periwinkle/bream bait = blue
- Void essence = purple
that sounds really expensive
really ?
I just do copper ores for orange lol
oh right
mh pine cone does not work for orange and shrimp bait does not work for purple
Same,
Copper sap iridium ore joja cola fiber and pasta usually
copper, sap, fiber, red mushrooms, CDs/glasses, recycled quartz/void essence
starfruit, ancient fruit, super cucumber, pumpkin, radioactive bar, jasper
š
I hope you only give iridium quality, otherwise what a shame. You could also have gone for the extra mile and make wine and juice or dehydrated versions.
im pretty sure i already completed the sixth request from the raccoons already but i still dont have the good neighbours acheivement
i did and the raccoon is already asking for more juice and pickles 
how confident are you in your counting ability
around 50%
ill send a photo of the raccoons since they have more kids per request right
8 kids in total
then you get the achievement
and they keep asking for stuff after the achievement and 8 kids too
oh that's why š i only have 6
does the fairy take damage before defense or after defense when calculating how much it heals you?
new beta, it's no longer "piss color"
Anaaaaa 
CSS HIIIII!!!

How you doing, boo? 
Iām good just got home from work how are you love
I'm in class rn lmao class is about to end so I'm on Discord
get some rest, you did well today 
Nice good luck with your class! And thanks Iām about to rest
Nini have a great day! 
I want the pink and the pretty green (bottom left)
Omg finally
The tragic thing about legendary fish ponds is that it means there are now 4 things to do with legendaries, and barring the fisher enchanted panning jank, you can only get 3 of them
Live fish in aquarium, cooked fish, targeted bait, and fish in pond
Does anybody know how much blue grass I'll need to keep 23 animals fed and have the grass renew in time? I've fenced it off temporarily but plan on removing them or widening/opening the gates when I have enough grass grown
Truffle oil is one of my main sources of income whilst my wine is aging and having my pigs locked inside all day sucks 
My only reco with this is to plant your grass not in one place or in clumps but to place it in some other corners so it allows other grasses to propagate and grow (also your setup's really pretty
)
Alr tysm!! It's 24 animals now, my cow gave birth yippee
Ty for the compliment <3 I'll see if I can grab a full picture of my farm, it's very much a WiP :3
Hai guys when does the raccoon family move in (idc about spoilers)
There's a chance after the greenhouse is completed iirc
im sorry you can PUT LEGENDARIES IN PONDS NOW??
For the new beta, yes.
so its not there now but it will be in the future?
Also just reiterating what Pathos said abt this, but it's not supposed to be talked about everywhere, esp in massive platforms like Reddit or Twitter. We can talk abt it here, though.
When a new update comes up, most likely yes. 
I love how 1.6.9 is the only 1.6 update version that's big enough to have a beta testing phase
Itās very understandable that they prob got tired of releasing small patches
And just wanted a huge big patch for the final push
Uselfuness of Mystic trees?
Tapping them for mystic syrup
I went for Mining mastery because heavy furnances are just too too good...
I've seen you can trade that for fairy dust, but i haven't unlocked the racoon yet, how do you unlock it?
Completing greenhouse
Done that already, apparentally theres a event thats supposed to happen after completing it
mystic syrup to treasure totem too
But it's been almost a whole season without it
Mystic syrup can also be turned into fairy dust
Decent way to keep a stockpile of them
Happens randomly as far as I'm aware
Incase you need something instantly done for some reason
kegs
Does it work on furnances?
Works on all machines yes
Hmmmm
Best use for fairy dust would be having a huge stockpile and using it to crush all your geodes
Need to wait for rain/thunder I believe, same as Movie Theater at a chance for the tree to be struck down, initiating the raccoon questline
By end game I just have 10 geode crushers and process geode while doing farm things
Can process like 150~ easily a day
Only 10?
I mean unless I'm pumping out like 300 omnigeodes every single day
I don't see myself needing more than that
Or stockpiling beyond the thousands so lol

Hmmmm
they also make mushroom logs produce more purple mushrooms
Yeah itās an overnight chance
You do? 
I could be very wrong in this regard to be honest; because for me it happened right after a rainy night
I might have mistakenly assumed it has the same condition as Movie Theater as a result
Yeah, I donāt think itās a condition
I just think itās a 10% overnight chance iirc
Hi :).
Ye just unlucky then
:D.
I would love to see a world record challenge of how far one can go before triggering the event tbh lmao
Anyone wanna play with me?
I'm gonna go figure out how to play multiplayer on mobile ik it's like impossible but I won't give up
Oh sorry, not quite the place to be asking for it. #1139016532966506576 if you wanna search for peeps to play together
Oh.
Hope is all I need
Well, yeah, good luck with that I suppose. It's officially never meant to be supported for MP regardless sadly
But then why would the Dev add the four corners farm?
And it even says in its discription good for a group or something
For consistency sake; what if some people on mobile started complaining because he specifically removed that map just because of it?
Four corners are still a good map regardless of MP availability or not.
I used FC and never used MP with it, tbh.
You say that until you find out how hard it is to sustain a random group of people on your farm that play in different timezones or you canāt play with others because of crossplay issues
good luck tho
As someone who tends to hyperfixate and play one game for an extremely long time; having to wait for my partner is the natural limiter
Except it doesn't work because I then proceed to play SP session while waiting for them
Self-control amirite
I've already lost all determination and hope
ā¤ļø. š. š„
sad undertale music starts playing
yo, does the targeted bait reduce the chance of trash at all?
I've used four corners in singleplayer
you can use it in singleplayer if you just prefer having separate areas for stuff
like I reserved upper left section for animals
way easier to fence them in since you just have really two spots
Yes, chance of trash is basically chance of failing to hook anything else, and targeted bait makes it very unlikely that you'll fail to hook the targeted fish.
but only if the targeted fish can actually be caught
otherwise chance of trash goes up I think
then in the early game using bait maker on stone fish would be like a crazy money maker no?
Yeah, slightly
doing the catfish at rainy day thing
but stonefish is like over twice the sell amount
stonefish bait isn't that great
Not really, chance of hooking stonefish is still pretty bad even with targeted bait
I personally see it as bait maker is fishing's seed maker equivalent, basically only use it when you need it
its like putting starfruit in a seed maker
^you dont wanna do that because its not worth it - just to clarify
Eh, it's absolutely worth it for some stuff. Cashfishing (catfish), for instance
Scenarios where there's a big disparity in sell price between fish, and you can basically guarantee the good fish
basically only use it when you need it
Lava Eel bait in the Caldera specifically is also really good
do we have any stats on what stonefish would be caught at with the bait?
you can do the math and figure it out [[Stonefish]]
idk what to do the math with tho lol
Don't need to, it's in the description
I did a lot of the decomp and maths for fish chances for the wiki after 1.6
where?
17.5% for targeted bait and no curiosity lure, at level 10 fishing and max (effective) cast distance
The chances of hooking a Stonefish depends on fishing level and on the fishing zone of the spot fished, increasing by 5% if a Curiosity Lure is equipped and by 10% if Stonefish Bait is equipped. For example, at level 10 fishing and fishing zone of 5, the chances of hooking a Stonefish is 7.5%. This increases to 12.5% with a Curiosity Lure equipped, to 17.5% with Stonefish Bait equipped, and to 22.5% with both a Curiosity Lure and Stonefish Bait equipped.
It literally says
yeah nevermind i learned how to read
At least for level 10 fishing in zone 5
I went out of my way to do the maths for all this shit ahead of time wherever it was easy to calculate lol
Didn't want knowledge of the odds to be locked away in a discord chat that nobody was ever going to see
oh thanks lol i didnt read it, good to know
wym me and gorilla are here to support u king
right rilla
I definitely don't regret it since I don't remember any of those calculations anymore lol, so the fact that the odds are on the wiki is really helpful for me too
yup
I donāt know whatās happening nor why I am part of it šš
I think you misunderstood what sicarious was saying
LOL oops
No need to understand
Just be supportive smh
I mean, I wasn't gonna bring it up, I appreciated the sentiment even if I wasn't sure what it was for š
Itās ok I support you too Sicarious
(Idk what Iām supporting but Iām supporting it)
I love all this blank cheque support I'm getting
I should figure out something horrifying to do with it
When you choose to use your powers for evil
I didnāt realize how little I knew about the new update until the green rain thing happened yesterday š
āAw i canāt wait to see the new winter outfits- why is the apocalypse happeningā
Real
i just put my second mastery point into the trinket thingy, what's that fastest way to obtain a little fella? :3
Go kill a bunch of things
okay awesome, that's what i thought š¼
Enemies with more HP have better trinket droprates. I get quite a few of them in SC Invasion runs
She can either give you good drip or bad drip
No in-between
If you marry her she says this instead
i walked out looking like i was cosplaying life elixir
Some days she envisions you in a regal tunic and a laurel crown... and then on other days she envisions you dressed as a rat
The duality of Emily
I assume this is a 1.6 dialogue either that or I never saw it before
I entered pierre/caroline room early in the morning when abby and caroline were standing there
I spoke to abby
And she said
"we are hiding here so we don't have to talk to anyone"
Sorry I was trying to give your mother a birthday gift I guess?
Also using 2 stardrop teas and a diamond
I managed to get caroline to 8 hearts from 0
Yeah, it gets triggered on Sundays, when the villagers visit the Shrine.
It's so funny in the context of
You have to go into the room to see it
I think that was in the game before 1.6
It was always there, not new to 1.6
Jelly, pickles, wines, and juices are now colored based on the ingredient item.
Are these stored in the xnb files? Having the hardest time finding them.
oop. There they are. There's no individual sprite for each. Just fills in space with a color.
why does the cart lady have a photo of my spouse ToT
Lol, that's a new feature. You can get spouse portraits at her shop when you get married.
When you get 14 hearts with your spouse*
hey villagers i have a rq question. what earliest time i can go to willy's home for boat to GI?
8am
after the boat repair cutscene he'll change his opening time from 9am to 8am
however with key to the town you can go there from 6am
festival day
you can use the boat any time you can get into the fish shop
all shops are closed on festival days so
dannggg i forget about festival day 
funny enough this is the reason i joined the server
To ask why Willy won't let me in even though he said he'll open at 8
Does anything bad happen if I were to have a spouse and ask someone else to be my gf/bf?
nope
Greatš
however (in 1.6 only) if you have a gf/bf thats the same gender as your spouse and you give them a liked/loved gift the spouse can give you jealous dialogue
however it has no effect on gameplay
Thatās not 1.6
isnt it?
itās been a thing forever
All good!
since when does grass stick around in winter?? :0
i built two silos thinking it would all die out but i still have it all around the farm
new stuff for 1.6
used to be you needed a mod for it
not anymore
so its a viable plan to sporadically plant grass starters to bolster growth when it crosses from winter to spring
i thought at first the blue grass in the meadowlands farm was especially hardy, since it's the only kind thats left in the yard of my chicken coop, but then i went further down to where my cows are and was surprised to see the normal kind was there too
Wish I knew this before making my farm bald
How does blue grass work on the meadowlands farm btw
Would using grass starter somehow randomly make it blue
Or does it only grow through spreading
Does it grow a lot at the beginning of the season?
Should I cut down all the normal grass on the farm and leave only the blue one since it's winter so when spring comes a lot of blue grass grows or is that not how it works
Well grass starters arent expensive to buy anyway
mr qi also sells blue grass starter in his walnut room
I still haven't finished the community center so yeah
The immense growth triggers when moving from winter to spring only
on other days it spread slowly as normal
So cutting down all the normal grass in winter and leaving blue grass is a good idea?
I wonder what's a better bait
The deluxe or the wild bait?
On one hand both basically reduce the catch time by very similar amounts it seems
The wild gives a chance for double fish while the deluxe gives a bigger fishbar making catching fish easier
I like deluxe, it has a generator made with moss
I built 4 of them, it's enough
Good for crabpots too, as it makes the quality better
no idea if wild baits give a chance for double crabpot yielding
If wild bait had a generator, I would probably use them
what is their recipe again ? bug meat is needed right ?
I want Willy's bug meat blob as a pet
Bigger fishbar remains pretty strong. Iridium fish are gud
The true GOAT of baits is, of course, challenge bait
imo deluxe just coz u can get alot of it kinda easily
deluxe worm bins make it reeeallllly easy to get a ton of it for free
We love challenge bait
Greater chance of coal with the mastery statue + full quarry = 55 coals. It took 2 megabombs + 2 bombs, 1 hour in game, a few pickaxe hits. Worth it. Would do it again.
The quarry cave now also has a branched path with coal nodes spawning in it, if you needed more
The one with golden sythe?
Yep, it branches about 2/3rds way in
There's a big breakable boulder on the right and you can pass through
It merges at the end near the reaper statue, so you can still easily use it to warp out
There are Dangerous Mode monsters in there even if you haven't unlocked Dangerous Mode anywhere else
(Which makes it really useful to be able to reaper-warp out, if you're there before you're ready for Dangerous monsters)
istg if it doesnt trigger heart events i will die inside
yea it doesnt. ill just go farm moss ig
Yes I went there. These flying skulls have great loot to farm.
btw what is moss used for
many cool things
- Speed-Gro
- Mushroom Log
- Statue Of Blessings
- Deluxe Worm Bin
- Deluxe Bait (5)
- Challenge Bait (5)
- Treasure Totem
- Blue Grass Starter
no
statue of blessing requires 300 alone
Green rain usually gives me around 350 of it(spending the entire day swinging the scythe)
Moss isn't exclusive to green rain, thankfully, but the requirements to get it otherwise might mean green rain is your first chance to get it
That's the moss system as I understand it
is this a sign from the game?
Nah, can't be, this is a Yoba country
oh yeah true
every nearly 2 days
nice
the desert fes villager vendors have nothing i want, what should I buy?
Got the MRC
1 woodcutter's weekly = 500g
1 wood = 50g (bought by Robin)
Trader gives 100 woods for 1 woodcutter's weekly.
meaning you get 10x more than the price market. This is a very decent trade.
Mystery boxes than you can trade with the raccoon ? to get candies in the end
wood is less uncommon than mystery boxes though
awww i forgot the carrot option for my spring mix for the com center
i forgot it was an option i mean
i need to dig up some worms
if you aren't maxed on forage xp you can buy a lot of woodcutter weekly
I maxed out forage in the first spring using that
I canāt speedrun like that :3
Iām buying them to trade for wood cuz this save is already post perfection
you don't have to, you can still get some free xp though
always nice with the foraging skill
if you need it that is
is it ok to post a picture of my farm in this channel later after i decorate, im not sure whats a spoiler for 1.6 or not but my games updated for it so it'll prob have it XD
i am not sure if you can post pictures as a new incomer.
I think you could drop it in #farms-and-outfits as a spoiler?
Ooh ok
I think you can in another channel. Maybe #images-and-memes ?
Oh ok, thank you for pointing me in the direction of those channels, I wanted to make sure I would use the right one ^-^
ill read over all the descriptions before i send anything
make sure I use the correct one
Doesnāt make a huge different which one you pursue
You get xp rather quickly unless youāre intentionally doing it slow
do you have any good tips for Volcano Dungeon?
get speed buffs and avoid enemies if you want to reach caldera
yup
then destroy rock, kill enemies and destroy ''barrels''
you also get 1 for opening a treasure chest
I was pretty close
The mussel rocks also give a bunch and you can trade mussels later, so keep many(x75)
What do you trade mussels for anyway
75 gets a mango sapling
If your golden coconuts aren't giving enough saplings, you can trade mussels for it
Not getting a mango sapling first thing in the volcano is crazy..
does anyone have an updated bundle items list by season? one that also includes the remixed bundles?
Wiki should have it, but perhaps not in the format you were hoping for 
do the raccoons thank you 1 week after you complete the last request?
hai what does the wind storm mean idc ab spoilers
theres now the option to use 100 hardwood to fix up a stump south of your farm
if you do that a week later a raccoon will move it and then hes got items he asks for
at the end you get the achievement good neighbor
ok cool thx
Mussels count as fish for all intents and purposes
is there any difference between the standard wood chest and the stone one that you get from robin's wood gathering challenge?
cause if not then. whats the point even
The trade itself is good only if you're desperate for mango
it doesnt seem like theres any difference from what i can tell on the wiki
Let's say you need all your wood for kegs but you have an overabundance of stone, that's what it's good for
well currently i have an overabundance of wood from the challenge and a shortage of stone so for me its kind of useless rn
Wood is used in so much more stuff. And unless you're running huge tree farms, stone is much easier to get imo
Even on upgrades, you need far more wood than stone
Even if you think you have an overabundance of wood, you really don't.
im not deliberately farming trees, but my farm type is the meadowlands one, and the trees on the grassy un-farmable land spread like weeds
Just aesthetic and the resource itself
Generally getting wood is easier and cheaper if bought from Robin
i went from 7 stacks of wood to 3 in the blink of an eye
didnt even realise it all disappeared
and stone is much more farmable because of bombs + staircases into deconstructor
Blessed green rain day
Oh my God
I found Living Hat! I FOUND IT IN A SAVE!
very cool price pierre
What the... Is he for real? even Traveling cart would have that for cheaper
i think roaming around collecting moss is one of my new favourite things
very satisfying
Modded snail and modded Pierre. May I suggest #modded-stardew
I think the snail just so happens to be there
Heading to the modded channel would make sense if they were asking about the snail, but it's just photobombing so it's fine
I think I can stop doing sc runs for now
what is that green stuff? from sc?
btw, how do you get GI totems?
[[Radioactive_Bar]]
<https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Warp Totem:_Island>
[[Warp_Totem:_Island]]
idk you still need to get a full stack of gold ore i think you might need to keep going /j
Which tool do y'all think is best to be made iridium first?
I already got all my tools to gold this winter
what forge traits would you all suggest i put on my infinity blade?
Pickaxe imo
probably pickaxe to make skull cavern runs faster
Don't bombs also make sc runs faster
@topaz gate You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!
Forge? Like gems?
Epic
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