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It’s two trees back to back
Make sure you got ginger or ginger ale
I think
Cripes. Good kitty.
Nah, that's just one of the three green rain tree designs
OH MY GOD 
Yeah, there's one of the others
Looked taller than I remembered. Is the design different during green rain?
ooooooooooooooooo
Guess not
I recommend playing the green rain day twice. Once to check on all the townies and see how they react, and then reset to play through again to collect as much moss/fiber/wood/Mossy Seeds as you can
ok so i gotta shake em before chopping them 

i know they're all hidden except for a few people
they're scared or something LMFAO
Demetrius lol
Demetrius is excited out there in full hazmat
Most of the town thinks it's the apocalypse or something
polyculture here we go
And then there's Leah, just standing outside in the open wondering where all the strange plants came from
leah's intrusive thoughts won
I think Elliott just wanted to drink
Leah wouldn't last long in a horror movie plot 
LMFAOOOOOOOO
how does he know
YESSSSSSSSSSSS 
Leah might to so chaotic that the big bad can't comprehend her next move
imma walk around and talk to people and redo it like you said
now that i know i don't actually have to cut those trees down
just shake em
i'll save a bunch of time to collect moss lol
She’s the kind that MC will die trying to protect her and she’ll go onto pass the vaccine to a surviving colony as the MC’s dying wish in the epilogue
Fun to see someone experience green rain for the first time
But isn’t this Leah energy @woven tusk
That's the third tree type, a giant fiddlehead. You can chop it for fiddlehead ferns.
A mossy seed will randomly grow into either the fiddlehead or one of the two mutant tree types. You can see which one it'll be, by the seed that spawns in the ground... And pickaxe it to reclaim it and try again if you wanted a different kind.
Demetrius would end up being the scientist that the authorities ignore at the start of the disaster
YEA I LOOKED IT UP ON THE WIKI
I'M SORRY I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED
IT'S MY FIRST TIME
SO I'M JUST SHOWING EVERYONE EVERYTHING

It's so cool, right?
Haley acknowledges the rain but is completely unbothered by it. Hard to say whether she'd survive a horror movie or not... on the one hand, she's not taking this seriously. On the other, she's right
sam being like IS THIS ACID??? IS IT GONNA GO THROUGH THE ROOF AND SIZZLE US ALIVE??? I GOTTA PROTECT MY BROTHER
man CALM DOWN 
Haley’s just worried about her hair
I love her response to it when married: wake me up when there's a pink rain 🩷
haley looks so beautiful with the mod i'm using.. making me question everything rn
but emily 
TIME TO RESET THE DAY
AND JUST SHAKE SOME TREES

Meanwhile the farmer:
Robin's reaction on Y1 green rain is hilarous
It was even more hilarious for me.
She was standing outside in it, busy upgrading my house...
In my defense I hired her when the forecast said the next day would be sunny, and the work extended into the green rain
guys i'm ready
LOL ROBIN IS ON MY FARM TOO RN
Dressed for the occasion!
YES
it's foraging time
i passed out
i couldn't get everything
there's so many

i'd say it was a success for a first time
i got 2 of those books too
Oh my god you can eat the jelly too....
I was today years old, I only knew about the Mayonnaise lmao
oh? 
anda the pickles
wait so the trees just stay there after the event is done??? that's so many trees 
Yeah they stay there. We get free wood🥳✨
oomg i got a galaxy soul
omg i can't imagine in the sve forest.. i didn't even go there during the event
because of how huge it is
that's gonna be so much wood
Barone warns that the game won't have an end game any time soon so, I for one welcome the free wood
i looove your farmer btw
so cute
THANK YOU 
also your UI is rly cute 
thank you
it's the overflown flowery interface! i've made some personal edits to this mod as well
that's even more wood than usual 
well it's only a few more trees but still
i ain't saying no
AND THE MOSS 

what the frick
time to make all my salmonberries into jelly so i can just.. eat it
Not selling Jelly anymore if that's the stats omg. I mean, it does make sense considering we do eat mayo and jelly irl, but they don't give that much health lol
just hoard a bunch of salmonberries and blackberries, turn em into jelly
so you won't lose money since it's already something you don't really sell
but you will gain stats 
imma test it out
I keep gold star mayo for eating bc that's like, 90 energy per bottle. Once I hit iridium quality, Skull Caverns is a piece of cake lol
Gain stats and God's strength I guess💀😂
Barone really said, "And let the food lovers have thy mayo and jelly!
so much moss 
I need the mayo for now bc I sell my eggs lol. My eggs do good too
help 
And I fish, by day five of owning the fishing rod, I was already high up in my skills lol.
Also, keep the moss
Moss makes Moss Soup which provide so much energy and it's my new favorite thing
I'm actually organizing my layout for my farm and the crops, and I want a whole section of Pumpkins so I can store em
Use the good quality stuff for the center and for pumpkin soup
No get it, bc I think this event only happens once during the summer~

i mean even before that i'd get a decent amount of moss
but with the event
that's just insane
Hopefully there's gonna be updates with more Moss crafted items
Hell probably have a few new stuff in new updates since moss is pretty big now
Especially since Moss Soup gives a lot of health and energy~
well damn that's a lot of moss for one day
Gg
more like trout durrby
I'm gonna try to fish for the slimejack ,what trinket should I use to avoid getting mauled by bugs?
funny because it's also trout derby time for me but I'm on Y3
ftr I do not have a frog egg currently, I do have a quiver and ice rod
TWO ANCIENT SEEDS IN MY 1.6+ PLAYTHROUGH FIRST YEAR😭💙
it's a feature added in 1.6
7 golden tags so far 
The tactic is to stay in the bottom left of map
And it doesn’t take long at all so don’t have to overthink too much
I'll probably use ice rod then
Sounds good too
You’ll get 1 flying bug in the bottom left
Ice Rod will handle that ez
ANOTHER ONE LET'S GO 
can you get more than one of the same rewards at the trout derby?
or you get one of each?
I'm still shook. Two ancient seeds on the 6th day of Summer
i got all of these 
so i found this "The first prize the player receives will always be 1 Tent Kit. Afterwards, the player can get one of 10 possible prizes listed below. The first of these prizes is given at random, with the next prize guaranteed to be the one listed next on this list, with 1 Bucket Hat rewarded after 3 Omni Geodes. After receiving all 10 listed prizes, the player will earn the prizes again in the same order."
will they ever rework the tapper profession fr?
mystic syrup still isn't enough to make it a worth option
mystic syrup is a huge money maker, but tapper still doesn't seem to make much difference for it
only would give 1 more syrup worth of profit for each 4 syrups sold
that sounds like a huge deal but is it really worth compared to the extra wood, forageable and profit capabilities and artifact spot finding capacibilities of the other skills??
and there should still be a lot of more worth money making options like wine and farm animals
so in conclusion tapper sucks and they should rework it entirely
maybe make tappers faster instead
or have a chance to produce double
Even after considering Heavy Tappers?
so produce double it is
oh ye also about mystic syrup
we can use them to make treasure totems instead
ooor we can save a lot of syrup then change to the profession and sell em all then change again
Mystic syrup is a great moneymaker and the tapper profession doesn't need reworking
Just saying, but not every moneymaker in the game needs to be at the same level as wine
Sure
the ocean jelly thing... is it better to catch if I had no bait?
Why do you think so
Bait gives you better chances to hook something
That includes the jellies
Oh ok
experiment with this https://brokencygnus.github.io/stardew-fishing-calc/home
Oh thanks
I am not sure this is true. But it does halve the time until you get a bite, meaning you get twice as many chances in the limited time you have
its still a stupid profession
it's only worth for mystic syrup
no one on their right mind is gonna sell the other 3 syrups
We're lucky that it even has a use now
it's true tho, bait gives you better chances to hook something per tick
also the only way to obtain moss is from trees, right?
green rain fiber too
man if only moss on rocks were a thing
ooh lichen nodes sound fun
moss is prob the only resource we can get only in the valley outside winter
and the only way to mass produce it is through an event that really feels like a rare easter egg event but for some reason it's something granted every year
||you'll regret crafting mushroom logs or anything that requires it once you unlock the farmer mastery||
it should be at least grindable, like with batteries and iridium bats
fiber can be grind at floor 80 asw
hardwood can be grind in the dangerous mines
I think you can farm moss using rare trees near a tree farm
the order of when i think each mastery should be unlocked:
1/2-foraging or farmer
3-mining
4-fishing
5-combat
That's the best way of farming moss I can think of
yeah can we pls get minecraft lush cave biome?
yeah i saw in the wiki
Can mahogany trees grow moss?
idk prob
I don't think they can
i'm sure mystic and fruit trees can't
then about mahogamy and fern i'm not sure
also mushroom
so it increases the chance from 10% to 15%, 20% to 25% if raining. that's not reliable imo
The next thing you can do is nothing
also would be cool if there were a very low chance for a mystic tree to have a face

the new update makes speed gro the absolute worst thing you can craft
why?
it's the best fertilizer
1 moss per fertilizer?
I mean just buy DSG from sandy
bro you only need 1 statue
I spend my moss mostly on blue grass
laughs in meadow farm
and I don't even use mushroom logs, a lot of people do
not a good farm type though
What’s the best ||mastery||
animals are killer mid to late game so meadow is pretty good
there isn't a single area with enough farming space for a full junimo hutch range
either foraging or farm
cuz of golden boxes, artifact spots or golden animal crackers
it depends on how you play, but mining imo
also no need to spoiler here
the other masteries are all about their own skills
IMO
Oh ok it’s a habit to spoiler 😂😂😂
why is advanced rod tier 2 it's not that good
I'd rank anvil and mini forge T4
avoid using as many moss as you can
combat is the worst mastery
imo fishing
treasures
I think I’m confused cause I just unlocked the mastery cave but I can’t choose a mastery thing? I gotta do sum else first?
also fishes are a very good money maker now
I ranked it high for the ability to smoke Qi fishes for money bottleneck
by the time you unlock mastery fishing already sucked for a long time
I'd think people who can consistently fish legend II are skilled enough to do SC deep dives
but yeah i agree with the fertilizers point
speed-gro is the best fertilizer and it's just because it's the most relevant one
still not that much since multi-harvest crops still exist
That is true. I will rethink
speed-gro like default speed-gro? I never use it
quality doesn't matter if you're turning them into artisan goods
any
Fishing is the worst mastery tbh
how isn't combat worse?
Because all trinkets are useful
How do I use the mastery cave? 🧍🏽♀️
get all skills to 10 first
nah trinkets a can be great imo
I have all my skills and I’m in the cave but I can’t choose anything! Do I have to like do something else first?
explain yourself
Anvil is minimum T3 because of crafting achievement. Mini Forge does help a lot especially if volcano forge is a bottleneck.
I have a level 5 fairy box and had a skull cavern dove the other day where I only healed twice
just eat?
also fairy healing is slow
ok sure T3, but you can walk to caldera
and lvl 4 parrot + monster musk + farming dust sprites can make some decent money, I’ve made like 5k per floor which isn’t a ton but is nice passive income and it’s fun
You need to do a lot of damage to make it effective
fairy does next to nothing considering food has no cooldown
parrot is a very nothing money maker
isn't there lvl 5 parrot?
fairy is good for the no food skull cavern quest though!
No
wait hwat
A good dust sprite spree can net you 30k a day lmao
I’ve made more than that, probably closer to 50k
which isn’t a ton late game but it’s nice to vary gameplay a bit!
wait I might try parrot in double dangerous mines with musk
There's also the ice rod
Makes killing serpents and ghosts monumentally easier
that's like 8k gold per floor
do it!!
fishing mastery gives a rod that allows two bobbers, makes you able to get golden treasures with better loot, and even if i find the challenge bait worthless in most cases it's still great for easy fish like rainbow trout during the trout season
it’s very fun imo
and what does combat gives? some insignificant bonuses to combat
so yeah don't commit the same mistake as me of unlocking combat first
wait so either foraging, farming or mining is better as the 1st skill unlocked
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Two bobbers are pointless by that point unless you haven't gotten the legendary fish yet
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Golden chests are also a bit worthless; golden mystery boxes outclass them
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Trout derby rewards are also worthless
two bobbers aren't that good, golden treasure chests are meh, and challenge bait is only worthwhile for the fish you probably can't perfect catch
you can also stack the same bobber
Challenge bait is achievement 
From crafting
the only thing I get from fishing is 7% chance for stardrop tea
Ok and
My point still applies
If you want to speedrun getting that fishing Stardrop then sure
ok i understand all of that but still less worthless than trinkets
i love giving trinkets to my friends and family
also that money making thing with dust sprites still seems pretty late game
considering that it requires faerie dust and monster musk everytime
No way...
Literally can’t die with fairy box equipped
Personally trinket changed my gameplay if only for the fact I don’t bring cheese anymore
Fight me chimpunk
Thinking about challenging myself with that
not to mention that we would have to max the parrot trinket, which would require either rng or iridium baars
You would be buried very deep in SC
Warp totem
facts
I've disabled that
it's straight up unusable on most fishes
Save and exit
Also disabled
however...
Turning off my computer
if you happen to have the farm statue
Also goodbye for your limbs
and get the fishing blessing...
challenge bait should be a challenge bobber so it doesn't compete with targeted
challenge bait also exposes a problem that already existed but it's much worse with the bait
I mean it'd be nice to challenge bait catfish or sturgeon, but in that case targeted is way better
Fishing rod should double bait and double lure?
I think challenge bait is intended to be bait so you can attach 2 cork bobbers for max efficiency
challenge bobber + cork + deluxe bait?
and specially when you're fishing an easy fish that barely moves you'll have to sacrifice perfection or a fish to get the treasure
very stupid for challenge bobber to just lose the fish when we lose it 3 times
it could just remain with 1 fish, that would still make it like the most basic bait
this just makes the best endgame bait straight up unusable for the most challenging fish
I mean it's in the name
"Challenge"
You're literally challenging yourself just using it
and also it should have a delay before losing another fish, so we won't end up losing it all depending on harsh movements
That’s the whole point of the sacrifice if using it lmao
it's just way too much of a challenge
also once again not a challenge, but straight up impossible to use on harder fishes
I think CA added it that way because by that point you should be a god at fishing or something
Skill issue and that’s largely the point
It’s supposed to be skill based
and once once again if we didn't lose the last fish it would still make it as good as the most basic bait if we failed the challenge in question
Yes…. That’s the point of balancing
then there's no stakes other than the crafting ingredients
And time
Yeah challenge bait is largely skill based
If you aren't confident or skillful enough yet, just don't use it
Deluxe bait or wild bait are there
The other bait that gives more fish is wild bait at only a 20% extra chance, it has to balance around that
Although challenge bait is also useful for fishing quests. 🤷♀️
i mean. i saw a thing where someone managed to perfect the legend with it and got 3 legends. so uh
i think its fine lol
"skill issue"
(insert a gif of some insane bullet hell boss fight modded to be completely impossible with the caption: "skill issue")
jesus fkin christ dude fr what kind of superhuman skills are your standarts?!
messy technique
no human being can perfect any of these fishes that makes completely random sudden unpredictable moves
try using challenge bait on squidfest
im saying that its fully possible to use even on legendary fish. if you're struggling its not the fault of the bait specifically meant for challenging yourself and skills
insufficient expertise
umm sir even if you maximize your fishing bar it still only takes half of it
that's still plenty of space for the fish to TELEPORT to
am i good enough to manage the perfect legend? hell no. are there people who are? yes.
with the water blessing it’s not even hard
sicarious did all perfect catches alright
is it the statue blessing that makes fishes easier to catch?
I mean there's no reason to use challenge bait on octopus
yep
I thought I was catching carp instead of laval eel at the forge because I forgot that one was active. 
not even octopus
anyways its called challenge bait for a reason. its not meant to make things easier, its meant to reward you for succeeding at the self-imposed challenge
any fish that can just make any sudden moves
that's why in 1.6 CA made it possible to make your bar comically large
oh ye also worst thing about challenge bait
costs bone fragments and moss
for a bait that can't even catch the actually profitable fishes
imagine trading a prismatic shard for tackle that makes your fishing bar take up 100%
To be honest: I really appreciate the possibility to use 2 cork bobber as I've trouble with several of the harder fish to begin with. 🤷♀️
wait we can do that?
Where can I trade? 
after a point those are pretty easy to get, and again it can catch profitable fish
@latent warren No we can't. 
prismatics aren't even rare
no, it was just a random idea
so which is the max fishing bar size again?
yeah i'm somehow getting plenty lol
yeah i get one every day from statue of true perfection
oh ye also
max fishing bar size requires Deluxe bait
would be cool if we were able to mix baits
it would have durability of course
First off, people have, I’ve perfect caught all but a few fish, in 1.6 it’s a hell of a lot easier, more fishing buffs, the statue fishing buff, advanced rod.
Second, the bait isn’t necessarily meant to be used on the hardest of fish, moreso for fishing quests and catching medium level ones. Otherwise why would it give a max of 3 vs the average <1.2 wild bait gives.
Third, having no downside would make it overpowered, it’s already strong as it is, there has to be some semblance of balance, just because something comes later doesn’t mean it should be so much better than anything that comes before it
even the legends?
also good luck getting the statue buff out of all the completely random buffs it can give each day
2.5 of those "areas" with 2 cork bobbers and deluxe bait.
the statue buff is busted since it makes even lava eels as easy as sunfishes, but you have to pray to get it each day
And laval eel are basically the only ones you can catch reliable as there are no other fishes where you get lava eel.
i have seen a clip of someone getting 3 legends with the challenge bait. And I mean The Legend.
no downsides? it's already a late game bait, that costs annoying resources, and we can lose all fish on the slightest unpredictable movement the fishes make, all that would do is make it at least usable as a regular bait for harder fish
The mouseypounds predictor can identify which ones spawn on which days
Or does witches pond only has void salmon? Than those would be technically the other ones. 
...And yeah, I managed to triplecatch the Legend with that info
ye they filmed it
and also shared their setup to get the bar that size with challenge bait
Their legend was nicer than mine. 😅
yeah seems like they really got blessed with the rng
They didn't even use the blessing of waters 
also who tf doesn't catch all the legendary fishes before getting mastery
As for the materials... moss isn't that hard to get once you have a tapper farm and weave some mossy seeds into it. Bone fragments aren't hard to get once you can access the GI dig site
The main problem with the legends in my opinion: You can be lucky to get the sleepy ones or unlucky and get the nasty ones. 🤷♀️
sleepy ones?
more like mildly tired ones
me because it's impossible to catch angler and glacierfish before fall
Apparently if the Legend wants to leap somewhere else on the fishing bar, but due to its insane hyperactivity chooses somewhere outside the bar, it simply doesn't move. Which can cause it to "sleep" if it happens multiple times in a row
also random question but is it possible for it to rain in the valley during the desert festival since its a passive one
Yes

wtf you doing to get mastery before the 1st fall?!
wait what?
Somehow still got the Spring 17 rainbow, in the rain, at just about midnight
What?
They've minmax attached to their name. 
the only bottleneck is foraging 10, really
Like I said, the Mouseypounds applet can predict which statue blessing happens on which day
ok so then also add on one of chef mans +3 fishing buff foods on top of the rest since those actually stack with other things
Butterfly can't happen on rainy days, so there's two possible blessings each day: rainy and not-rainy
wdym by bottleneck?
ooooh that's why
limiting factor
bro can speedrun the game before the 1st fall and is a mod developer
The not-rainy blessing for that day was not useful, so I used a rain totem on the day before it to get the rainy one instead (Fangs)
yet i can't even put my eyes on the modding guide before getting buried in the cosmic horrors of my mind
still a huge achievement
and I'm currently debugging it bc turns out targeted bait messes up fishing festivals
Would've been the butterfly but I wanted Fangs, so I used a rain totem on the 16th to get the rainy blessing on the 17th
What’s comically large in 1.6? Cork bobber x 2 + deluxe bait?
if only sunny totem existed
i also have an idea to buff the endgame speed-gro fertilizer
fishing level 19 too
To be fair: Fishing 10 early on isn't that hard if you do a lot of fishing in the first week.
Dx bait isn't an option for this, as it has to be Challenge. But fishing buffs can do it
since the endgame quality fertilizer allows iridium quality crops would be cool if the other endgame fertilizer also had unique effects
so speed-gro could increase the chance for giant crops
I got fishing lv 10 like day 8 in 1.6? It's easier now
and maybe even make more giant crops possible
I really don't like the way giant crops work in this game, after having played Rune Factory 4 after it and seeing how giants worked there
like parsnip and starfruit
i also have an idea for them, but i think i should start keeping my future modding ideas to myself
starfruit should be a tree why is banana a tree and starfruit isn't
starfruits are more of a tree than bananas are
bananas are comically huge herbs
why are starfruits chopped with a hole in the middle?
chopped?
sliced imean
I only fish for like 3 days early on and then only occasionally. So I'll have it way later, but at 10 in summer for "Mr. I should be called a legend"-Octopus. 🤷♀️
still don't get what you mean
In RF4, every single crop can become giant
Giant is not RNG, it's based on a soil stat that you can inflate via soil additives (which stack but if you spam them too much, the soil starts dying)
Giant regrowable crops stay giant and keep regrowing as giant
y
octopus and scorpion fish are honorary legends lol
you mean like the seed pits?
Yeah, the starfruits in this game are weirdly pre-sliced. But I don't think they have holes in them, those dots're just seeds
But the scorpion is way less picky about "time of the day". 
so in reality max bobber size without deluxe bait is still less than half of the fishing bar
you'll be praying that the fish don't just teleport to the other side of the bar
Does that include the +3 levels from the desert fest chef...?
Fishing level 19 is Seafoam Pudding w Qi (+5), Desert Fest food (+3) +???
the whole fruit looks llike that
master rod
ok so in 1.6 in theory for a massive fishing bar you can combine:
-2 cork bobbers
-master enchant on your rod
-qi seasoned seafoam pudding
- waters blessing
- deluxe bait if not deciding to use challenge
- and during the desert festival you can add on one of the +3 fishing foods the chef makes, as those will stack with the pudding as an optional
Rod enchant
so they're already far from accurate in the game
Ok thanks!
Yes.
oh ya about that ig it's to make it clear for people who've never seen a starfruit irl
dont know why half the list became real bullet points but thats irrelevant
Anyone has a pic of how big this is?
i dont but eventually im gonna try it because im curious lol
Oh ok pls tag me lol
Bar Size
The green rectangle increases in size with higher fishing skill level. The total number of pixels of the entire rectangle is 568. At Fishing level 0, the bar size has a length of 96 pixels. This is increased by 8 pixels for every increase in fishing level, so that at level 10, the bar size has a length of 176 pixels. The bar size can be further increased by using either the Cork Bobber or Deluxe Bait or increasing the fishing level past level 10 by using an enchant at the Forge or with food buffs. The maximum possible bar size is therefore 308 pixels, which can be achieved using the Advanced Iridium Rod and having level 10 fishing, using 2 cork bobbers, using deluxe bait, using the Master Enchant at the Forge, and eating Seafoam Pudding with Qi Seasoning and a dish with the Shrimp ingredient from the Chef at the Desert Festival. Outside of the Desert Festival, the maximum possible bar size is 284 pixels, exactly half of the total number of pixels of the rectangle.
So with the chef, dropping the Dx Bait does not drop you below half the bar
Without the chef, it does.
ooo interesting
That’s like 55% of the bar…
(Dx Bait is +12 pixels, or a level and a half. Cork bobber is 24 pixels, or 3 levels worth)
ok so seems like
Interesting project, I might as well try 
that deluxe bait is even more worth than anything the combat mastery can offer than i thought
While I love my ice rod: I agree that combat mastery isn't that convincing.
frog
ok but what crature would you need to instakill?
yeah it's cool but nothing useful
also it's a loved gift by sebastian
but you could just use frozen tears or sashimi instead
Or iridium void eggs. 🤷♀️
wait he loves that?
you cannot convince me that frog tank and frog friend hold no value >:(
[i do know theres better trinkets lol but frog frien]
yeah seb normally hates eggs but he loves void eggs
they hold value but no more than what the other masteries can give
money can't buy happiness
but it can buy everything that gives happiness
Yes. But if you've no void chickens frozen tears aren't hard to find too. 🤷♀️
money cant buy me happiness
but frog friend brings me joy
or you can just give him raw sliced fish...
anyways i normally bring the other trinkets for actual combat, i just use the frog as a pet when wandering around lol
I mean the trinkets are nice to have and the animal versions look cute. But when ranking benefits from mastery they're unfortunatly at the bottom of the list.
also all the combat mastery items are only really usable in endgame
I stay away from crafting sashimi since there might have been an "accident" in one of my old saves. 
at this point you'd already have all masteries unlocked
nobody told you to leave legendary fish in the fridge
sashimi works well but is also locked behind linus so in theory you might find the tears first
It wasn't in the fridge. 
but is still sucks for special fishes like sea cucumbers for lucky dip
oh right inventory
next time watch your legendary price better then
oh ye
you can also just reset the day
Since then I make sashimi exactly once and am very paranoid about tripple checking my inventory that there's only a carp in there. 
i really think legendaries fishes don't have to be only able to be catched once
i usually try to get void chickens as soon as possible so i usually just have void eggs in abundance by the time i start really focusing on friendship
they could still have a long cooldown but they really don't feel that special anymore with the qi's quest
also shame there were no legendary fishes for ginger island
i mean its the point of those original ones
If you notice it that day you could do that. But I noticed quite some time later when I wanted to put them in a fish tank. 🤦♀️
also we can only fish the qi's legendary fishes while the quest is active, right?
it would have been cool to have a legend on ginger island... maybe some cool lava based fish in the caldera
like how the legend itself is very similar to the largemouth it could be somewhat similar to lava eels
Yes.
If you want multiple of them you just have to make sure not to catch the fifth.
magma shark
also are the floor 100 and top of volcano pools really actual magma?
or still water?
lava, the lava eel's description also says its somehow surviving in lava
so how's the lava from the volcano dungeon different?
Man is going on about The Legend when I went and caught The Trilogy
also we can fish trash in the floor 100 lake
who knows how we're able to even get the bobber and bait in there without it melting lmao
joja co: somehow creating lava proof trash and flooding the mines with it
Well, Stardew is now somehow connected to Terraria, so I guess we have Hotline Fishing Pole technology
The Fish, The Myth, The Legend
imagine if they added fishable lakes in the dungeons so we'd had to bring fishing rods along
not just on the floors of the mine where we can easily go through an elevator
that'd be annoying tbh
i mean it is possible that the mines area is red hot water while the caldera itself is actual lava- lava eels are located in both locations
but still very cool
that's why you can fish in the caldera and only the caldera
because there's a shortcut there
regarding actual unique caldera fish, that'd be interesting
also anyone wanna argue about which is the best farm?
a unique legendary fish in there would be cool, but also having like actual other fish that vibe in the lava would be neat
Suggest the arowana for caldera fish
magma shark
best farm for earlygame is riverland, best farm for lategame is beach
a relative used to have one of these, they're crazy expensive
i think beach is the best farm overall, or my favorite at least
only farm with mangrove trees
and even has an unique furniture
absolutely not, the sprinkler issue is only resolved late game
You mean the boat painting
the only downside is sprinklers, but there's a spot that allows sprinklers which is also all you need
and meadows is definitely icky
imagine a horseshoe crab as a unique legendary crab pot fish somehow
i don't think there's a single spot where you can fully utilize a junimo hut's range
trust me i tried finding it
crab pot buff pls
baits should affect them, maybe
They do
how?
meadowland has become one of my new favorites bc of how different it is
Dx Bait makes the quality silver, and reduces trash rate
No difference to my knowledge
yeah i think dx bait difference is enough
wild bait and targetted bait also reduce trash
then the crab professions just have to be able to compete with the op fishing ones
Eh, they don't have to
wait can you target lobsters
You can target crab pot items? 
It's okay for one skilltree branch to be the best in solo. Mariner is super practical in co-op for its high Lobster rate
angler affects all fishes, plus fish smoker is a thing now
target bait also works the same as it would on a fishing rod, as long as its an appropriate crab pot fish bait
so yes you can target lobsters
what's up with lobsters though?
It's a game about community, so it makes sense for some skills to only be desirable in co-op
Really easy bisque.
Damn. I'm low on crab cakes and didn't know that. 
just go for pudding
but yeah the only baits with an effect on crab pots is targeted [crab pot specific targets], wild, and deluxe
the others wont do anything unique and just work like normal bait
Mariner removes trash catches but also redistributes the catch ratio to exactly balanced. Lobsters are normally rare but become the same commonness as every other saltwater catch
do not put your magic or challenge bait in the crab pots
my problem with the crab pot tree isnt so much the level 10 skills its that Trapper itself is weak
removing trash may also be a downside
It can be, though I kinda hate counting on trash for resources
Due to how unpredictable it is
and is there any point on having the wilderness farm?
It's less ugly than the standard farm, which has value when you have to look at your farm every day
The central pond is conveniently located
There is more plantable land than most other maps
Iridium golems are also exclusive to it
like if iridium weren't easy enough to get already
me spending a day training rod fishing the lava eel level for trash whenever i need it
Though they spawn at Combat 9+ and freaking Serpents start showing up at Combat 10...
i find combat to be the hardest skill to maximize
Couldn't you just shortcast in the caldera to guarantee trash but with bait so you hook it twice as fast?
normally i only get to it on skull cavern
yeah honestly i dont care about the other enemeis but serpents at home is too much stress
that is once i finally manage to get a prism shard
wilderness farm is neat, while others can enable them later the idea of starting off being plagued by monsters is a cool one
I put a lot of lights around my farm when I played Wilderness. Not in the hopes of blocking monster spawns due to Minecraft logic, but so I could see the bastards coming
maybe wilderness farm can have increased monster spawn rate and give us the rusty sword on start to make it more unique
monsters should be able to pick fights with animals
Scythe works fine for a starter weapon
now it's just a slightly different basic farm with an unique quite insignificant enemy
about to start the great ostrich war...
mine training rod fishing negates the chance of hooking a fish at all so its just guaranteed trash
It's also the only farm that makes sense with Abigail's postmarriage event
i also think that the swamp farm would've been epic
traumatized aussie noises
I personally use the "pond" next to the spa. No need to change rod. 🤷♀️
get some emus on the farm to defend against wilderness golems
cry as they wage ware on your crops instead
There are residual files for a scrapped waterfall farm that starts you with a (not elaborated upon) significant bonus but also 1Million in debt, collected in seasonal installments, which can leave your money negative
fair, i just go to the mines out of habit lol
so bad animals go to sleep before monsters start spawning
so a challenge farm?
just like how i want the swamp farm to be
time to mention waterfall farm with debt
thats a kinda crazy idea the game can't even handle debt as it is
the game might be unplayable lol
"JojaGrandpaIntro_0": "???: Very touching... Now, just sign the paper here...",
"Joja_Debt_Notice": "NOTICE:^^At the end of the season, {0}g will be debited from your account.^^Failure to pay will result in a negative balance.^^Thank you for your patronage.^-JojaBank",```
anyone want to talk about this
or just painful since you can't buy anything until you earn those thousands back
I'm thankful it wasn't included. 
1 MILLION?!
This honestly feels like dinopark tycoon from way back
Although it would be an interesting challenge but I hate Joja.
I kinda wished it was implemented
like what's the catch
challenge farm would indeed be epic
do you get a ton of starting bonuses
thats crazy that buff must be huge im curious what it could be if the debt is that much
As an option sure. But not as default please.
of course
i mean... maybe one day
fireworks and the desert racer spriters were in the files in 1.5 and we got them now
it's called Farm_Perfection and Waterfall Farm_Grandpa
it's supposed to be another option
not 1.7 
if not, perhaps one day a modder will make it a reality
bring the debt farm to life
I think there's actually a mod doing that. 
finally i can be in debt in game just like in real life
also with how the farm menu ended up we better get 4 more new farms to make it look right 
I don't remember the name of it but there's one where you've to pay your debt in regular intervals. 
||swamp farm, desert farm, cave farm, tropical farm||
or they can keep making farms focused on different professions
a gorgeous, big map with a beautiful waterfall and a ton of space... and then morris shows up the next day like 'so about our money'
combat needs a better farm
maybe they could rework the ginger island farm too to work with tropical seasons rather than being a greenhouse
imagine a farm thats dedicated solely to slimes for some reason
maybe tradeoff would be no grass grows naturally and grass starter doesnt work
but the upside would be that we could get giant crops on it

ah yes the tropical seasons, hot, super hot, mega hot, and rain
so true
CA should make palm oil
palm saplings when
what could the oil be used for though?
sell for 9999g
i wonder how farms focused on the remaining professions could be
if you don't get the reference palm oil is the reason why we're burning a lot of forests
Oil maker run
not rainforests, right?
yea rainforests
well at least we already know where to find them
I would like to see a smaller version of the beach farm (with the "no sprinkler on sand"-rule). 
now we just need to send airforce jets to track down and hunt em but no nobody will do that because for some reason the world losing it's lungs isn't the business of anybody who lives in it great job capitalism
brain once again imagining how people would react if the banana trees were more accurate to irl harvesting
rainforest-burning is government-sanctioned alright
??
they get a cut
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yea fr it's really easy to stop people from planting a ton of palm oil if you want
i want a cut too, OF THEM
I mean it's easy to find hectares of plantations
so is the government just in favour of destroying rainforests now?
🔫 always has been
the world really is marching forward
because we'll go extinct
oops sorry forgot this is a stardew server and channel
anyways uh
I mean this channel's usually quite dead anyway
the blue grass is way too late game
it's relevant even in endgame since the best animals are unlocked near that point
but i still find it being behind QI too late for it
if you're doing things optimally, you'd always expand your sheep empire
maybe it could just require farm and foraging masteries
or just for the meadow farm at least
That artisan switch thing feels dirty
sheep are so good especially if you are lazy like me
since we're already supposed to have it earlier and as someone who picked that farm i find it hard to utilize when the stalk is still locked behind endgame
for some reason my brain is still thinking about how weird banana trees are
i do not know why
Are you not allowed to plant flowers in garden pots on the ginger island beach?
but if stardew bananas worked like irl bananas they would be a pain
You mean grafting?
bananas should switch places with starfruit
do they work like bananas in the minecraft neapolitan mod?
Did the game stop you?
i also think more rare crops would be sick
we still only have starfruit, ancient fruit and sweet gemberry
Yes but I am very surprised and want to make sure that nothing else is wrong.
i have no idea what that mod is dsgfs
but they only produce one harvest before the upper stalks die and have to be completely cut back so new ones grow
the ginger island crops are very good but not really in these levels
Which flower are did you try planting?
Fairy Rose
starfruits are not rare, it's exactly as rare as beet and rhubarb
also banana flowers are edible which is neat
didn't really meant rare
just ya know the 3 endgame crops
we call it banana hearts

the 3 most profitable ones
i wanna try a banana heart one day
I have tried planting fairy rose but not on the beach
im gonna check this right now cause this is the second time ive seen this and it keeps bothering me
I know it can go in garden pots because I did it on the farm.
sweet gem berry is nowhere near profitable
ive gotten to try a few banana varieties but never the banana heart
it's the most profitable crop in raw price
so it has something
also i have an idea for them
since they're GEM berries, what if they also got affected by the gem profession
new iridium gem berry meta???
i just wish we could eat them
i want my farmer to know what the sweetest thing in existence tastes like
also junimos should be able to replant crops
since they're gems maybe only statues can eat them?
i mean i dont think theyre actually gems, but itd be funny if we've just been managing to grow a weird sweet-smelling gemstone and feeding it to a living gargoyle
just got my first fairy box and its only a level 2 smh
but an endgame crop best for being eaten would be epic
I think the problem is that the beach is considered outside the farm. It's weird because I'm pretty sure the part west of the stream is considered the farm and you can plant crops in the tillable spaces even though there are only a few.
either used for a new epic dish or eaten straight up restoring a lot of stats and giving buffs
anvil
true
get ready for a lot of skull cavern rushing
anyway i think these trinkets should be a lot rarer
First time ever watching a movie and I catch Marnie and Lewis on a date. Is that now good or bad? 
I think you’re right. But I also planted garden pot on untillable part of island west
So just the beach part
what stopped you?
I might be able to code dive to see what the exact limitations are
The game said I couldn't plant things there.
be careful when using it since it can take the spot of mussel rocks
ok on it
it might also be because the beach zone spawns mussel rocks and it was just done as a precaution maybe?? idk
I don't need the mussel rocks to spawn anymore so that wouldn't be a big loss.
it's still really useful for recipes that require fish
yeah its definitely the beach i think the grass is safe anywhere its the sand tiles that are off limits
There seems to be some changes to island west in 1.6. At least you can no longer plant trees right of the house. There might be other changes. 
Can't plant stuff on sand tiles
and talking about flowers, quite annoying that there's still no way to prevent us from picking flowers
yeah were looking at garden pots
That's such a bummer! I had my honey farm practically all set up.
As your cursor is on the depris where you can't put things to begin with while there are actually garden pots on beach tiles I'm a bit confused to be honest. 
is the ninth level of the volcano guaranteed to be the maze?
i have a controller plugged in the cursor just kinda goes whereever
Oh. Ok. I didn't know about that and was just confused. 
no problem
Okay crisis averted. I'm just moviong my honey operation to the west side of the island farm. I think that the GI farm beach should not count as "not farm" spaces. Is there a suggestion box I can drop that into?
i believe so?
this is the lorax disguised as the lone ranger
I just need oak resin for my buttload of kegs
these are all getting blown to smithereens once I get all I need
that is suspisciously cartoonishly evil
All but glacier personally, yeah, and others have gotten all perfect pre 1.6 too.
And in 1.6 again it’s so so so much easier even without the statue buff
omg editing speed gro in the wiki is a lot of work since you have to edit 3 pages
What are you changing about it
You may have to change more than three
application after planting
margotbean asked me to revise because it was too opinionated lol
Makes sense
yeah ik, i'm not used to editing wikis
I could review before you publish if you want
Wouldn’t want one opinion to turn to another
I already published, https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Deluxe_Speed-Gro
third paragraph
it's a bit of a doozy to rephrase
anyone know if you're still supposed to be able to craft a crystalarium at mining level 9?
I don't seem to have the recipe added
Have you gone to sleep after reaching mining lvl9?
haha I was just about to say "scratch that - I just slept and it popped up", then I saw your reply, thanks 😄
couple of interesting things today:
- clicking on concerned ape in the loading screen made the screen go green with leaves floating around, sort of like the forest magic cut scene
- Found a pot of gold and a leprachaun hat at the end of a rainbow near the hat mouse waterfall
cool!
Both are Easter Eggs! Nice finds!
What do you do after reaching perfection (not talking about the chicken)? My char is a bit lost at what to do now. 
The chicken?
all achievements
nice!
all achievements, including hidden 
im assuming fector will have you stuck for a while
Before I even consider playing those games I might just quit that save. 
i just got 3 golden tags in a row 
Nice
I try to complete personal challenges
Decorate the farm (or the whole valley if that's ur cuppa tea)
oh great!
i put my fish smoker in the top left corner of the farm cave. and the dehydrator knocked it off!!! 😦
riverland farm 😦
I considered making the farm and the house "something that looks at least a little bit good". But that would have been a harder challenge than perfection in around 2 years.
I'll leave that to the next save. 😅
Oop i get
I planted my first two mystic tree saplings one day before green rain 
Can you find golden animal crackers in golden mystery boxes?
Well, i've been looking through the Stardew predictor and i can't find any
Nvm, i've found them
It’s only 0.5% chance in golden mystery boxes.
Yea, i noticed. The search distance was only 200 boxes. While mine will appear in box 479
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Do you know what channel you're in my dude?
This is the all spoilers chat, there is no spoiler tags here
I think you're in the wrong chat
SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE
Aw man I hadn't read the halfblood prince yet
gonna send this to everyone who says that treasue chests r useless
okay i cant remove the spoiler whatever its fine
it's fine because this is #archived-update-spoilers and spoilers are not necessary
but you can spoiler if you wt
Fishing treasure chests are never useless
But will lose their usefulness later in the game
As their role is essentially replaced by mystery boxes and to an extent, golden mystery boxes
Does Fishing Maatery not do enough?
I'd like to attest tho that having golden treasure chests allows me to easily net golden animal crackers. 
@worn nest You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!
so would you give an animal cracker to an osterich?
and would you make osterich mayo or just sell the eggs
yeah, why not? and if you're making mayo why stop after boosting the production?
I believe Ostriches are the best money unless you have golden chickens or Shepherd and sheep.
But you can also use animal crackers for utility instead of money, especially considering you are likely to have some big money sources already by the time you get Mastery. You could feed them to rabbits for more Rabbit Feet or to fish ponds for more items
i thought golden chickens cleared sheep by a decent amount
Omg if you click on the title screen with Barone's mascot, it turns all green-like!
Yeah it's a new easter egg!
Does anybody know when 1.6 will come out for console
No, keep an eye on #bulletin-board as it will be posted there
this isn't Emily's best work XD
It would've worked if she did this during Winter LMAO
That’s adorable lmao. Out of the three I got my favorite one was either the gnome outfit or the colorful clown outfit lmao
Should I go with fishing, foraging, or combat mastery next
Already have the other two
If you do a lot of mining, I'd pick combat next for the trinkets
@neon furnace
The 'final path' is the Skill Masteries.
Essentially, all experience you earn pools into a large experience bar, each level allowing you to choose 1 skill to master. Each mastered skill gives its own new unique features, items, and recipes.
i need 10000xp
any idea how much is that?
isnt one path by itself like 8000?
For each level of Mastery, the amount of experience gained is increased significantly. Additionally, Farming experience only puts 50% toward masteries.
10,000 experience. For reference, going from Level 0 to Level 10 in a skill requires 15,000 experience.
yeah but this time all the xp is counted together so it's pretty easy
Farm redesigned alot
1 sc run gave me like 6k xp or something like that
Older farm and even older farm
Yup.
I'm still redesigning it lmao
Top slight variation
i really like it
except for the ponds, i dont like those imo, but the way the paths curve and shit and the sheds on both sides is reminding me of like a village or something, its so cool
Tried to design around 4 meteorites and decided to do a bow design
Which ones?
the fish ponds
that's really unique and awesome
i didnt even notice, its a town AND a bow at the same time, honestly great use of the middle pond
Damn all of them?
yeah i js dont like it
Why tho
they look ugly in general
Fair
nothing can fix them without mods
U can make them work, but only have like 1 in the area ang make like a fountain of sorts, or a center pond since its a ponc
Oh my god I'm so fucking stupid!
I apologize that's my fault I forgot that it said spoilers in the thing! Lol
How ironic when I'm tired my mind is playing tricks on me!
😭
Lol
@torpid zephyr
My bad!
I think you need some sleep 
Sorry for the Ping!
I'm alright!
Sometimes I just don't realize!
Ah okay
Lmao
All good
Question being able to not plant trees in greenhouse, is that intentional or not intentional? If so why was it removed?
something dropped an entire crystalarium haha
Oh yeah that could happen because you killed a special monster. One of the special drops in dangerous sc and mines are SC drops
I think it’s iconic
the Farm
Very edgey
it sometimes works fine in dialogue
direct, straightforward. no frills. 10/10 no notes
golden mystery boxes and trinkets are way too common
it's been like 30 seconds and i have 2 more golden mystery boxes
3
I sell them by trash bin
I'm pretty sure you still can
yeah
i designated an entire chest to trinkets
big or regular
4
dang
i'll show in a sec
Are you on 1.6? You can put them in dressers now
And I think they're infinitely large
oh those are
Most wearable/equippable stuff can go in dressers. I really need to buy one (or a furniture catalog) some time
ah word
just checked
...Wait, I bought the Joja catalog, like, the day after I shut them down because it would be funny. I could've had a dresser this entire time 
oh well
i was thinking like rings and clothes and stuff
i think it would make a lot of sense for trinkets to be placeable in dressers
I bet there will be a mod for it after not too long.
last day of the season, time to buy a galaxy soul


