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If the tile is immune to your hoe, you cannot plant a tree there
Can't plant any crops or flowers outside the farm tho?
Ginger Island West
I mean that's the second farm tho
eh
esp with SVE
ginger island west, on the west side of the river, is outside of the main farm area there. but you can plant there in the tillable spots regardless.
I've never played expanded, this is my first save on pc so it's been vanilla all the way, and for 1.6 I wanted a vanilla playthrough for the first run too. might have to look into it!
i see
it js makes desert REALLY long and the 3 pillars at the bottom
Correct. Tilling soil outside the farm is for trying to dig things up. It can produce items, though at a drastically lower rate than those wormy spots do
now that clay farming is officially dead (without checking a special setting)
And, well, until recently, you had to till the soil to plant a tree outside the farm
It still has to be in tillable soil but you don't have to actually hit it with your hoe first anymore
I never had to till before planting a tree
On the farm I believe it was never necessary
Outside the farm, it used to be necessary
Found out it isn't anymore, when I was preparing my Railroad tree farm and accidentally planted a seed without hitting the tile with my hoe first
i found it already near impossible to get clay 
The first ten clay for the silo are an actual problem now
After that I felt like I had a little more than enough clay income for stuff until a certain wacky plan involving mass quantities of Deluxe Retaining Soil and Fiber Seeds on the Beach Farm
Worm spots and mine containers were my sources until Ginger Island
but its my most consistent shortage in resource
yeah
it deosnt help that a lot of new items require clay
Fortunately you don't need many Dehydrators since they churn through crops so fast
me, who turned the cellar into a dehydrator room:
I'm so glad I got 3 or 4 silos before the update. Which I'm still waiting on. Yay switch player
omg i only have 2 silos
I built one and then periodically pulled hay out to store in chests
I'll need to build more later
I'm almost in year 30 so that's why. Pre 1.6 farm. Just waiting on update
Had plenty for winter, fortunately
I was shocked to be 2 pieces of clay short when I went to build that first silo on this save. Had to randomly hoe around and hope for the best
and btw I never did clay farming, so I guess drop chance must be lower now
I think it's completely random now, compared to clay farming where if you know the gist of it, you can try to get a few bits of clay in a pattern
i turned one of the new house rooms into a wheat farm xd
Could do something like that with the attic I suppose. Maybe put some kegs in there.
IIRC it's still technically seeded, but they updated the hash function to one that doesn't have such obvious patterns
Yeah, it's nearly impossible to do true randomness in computers
Not that
I mean it's not time-dependent or anything
So if you reset the day and repeat the same actions
You will get the same clay from the same spots
And theoretically you could use an external prediction tool - I think BlaDe's predictor is already set up for this
what does green rain do./..??
i get it tmr.. do i need to be scared
or do anything
its harmless
it's not harmful. this is a good day to take your scythe and axe and head down to cindersap
cindersap?
dont think ive unlocked that
unless i just dont know the names for things
yesss
green rain happens like once a yr
you can get fiddlehead ferns i think
which are usually only available in the secret woods?
Does any of the mods on here know when us mobile players get 1.6? I realize I takes quite a long time, and I understand that. But even if it come in a few months yet it would be nice to have a scope🙃
Finally found the Treasure Appraisal book, Had an accidental backlog of Milk and Eggs for 3 days, and an Intentional backlog of Dino Eggs.
XD
I made more money on the Eggs than i did the Artisan Goods this night.
How many dinos you got?
Dino mayo is a big moneymaker at my farm, along with well aged cheese.
in 1.6 the mayo is usually worse to sell than the raw eggs
because the treasure appraisal guide triples the egg's sell price
Well I don't have that.
understandable, but that's still something to keep in mind
12
They don't all produce on the same day, since they have Incubation times of 11 or 5.
So I collect end of each season
no one knows, the dev is working on it actively and will give us progress reports when there is something to be reported. hang in there.
Basic Dino Eggs sell better as Mayo than with the book.
Anything with a Star gets tossed in the Shipping Bin
I also have 12 chickens, 12 cows, and 6 sheep.
I had 6 pigs but my blue grass was being consumed at an alarming rate
MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH
godspeed o7
Profit
ey 330k for a bunch of em is pretty decent 👍
I got loads today by repeatedly hoeing and then pickaxe-ing a plot of untilled land on my farm - about 30 pieces. I have the tractor mod so it was pretty easy for me, but if you're motivated then you could give it a try without. I've always had most luck getting clay on the farm.
@untold bridge check out the little room I set up for krobus :)
There is a new patch already damn
aw thats so cute :(
i hope he likes looking at himself
I'm sure this is a flattering rendition
Also, I got insanely lucky with a tea set on year 3
He loves the smell of stardrop tea, so I gave him a tea set
he can just let the tea sit in the cups to make the room smell good
😭
i love the gavel
the slower swing speed doesn't really matter much because of animation cancelling
but also look at this weird ass reforge I got
mach 7
vanilla, I haven't even tried to mod stardew yet
for the innate +speed enchant, anything above +10 acts exactly the same (it sets the animation delay to a negative number lmao). i'm not sure how exactly the actual animation works, there's got to be some sort of minimum delay somewhere, because i can't tell the difference between anything above +8

I'm actually curious if a +attack innate reforge +3 ruby forged dragontooth club would be better than the gavel
+attack appears to be able to go up to +5
145 against 156 infinity gavel still better in terms of raw damage
+5 attack innate adds a flat 15 damage to any hit
Dragontooth club at least has better crit
Even better with blessing of fangs, you can crit while slam if you have that blessing
ehh if I wanted a crit build I'd be an insano maniac and use the dagger
or the needle, wherever I get that
hey, i just got a window message saying herring frenzy is available in the beach, is that a new thing?
yes
oh is it just a notification that you'll much more likely to get herring?
during that period of time
yes
oh I'm good these days, post-perfection, dig site available, etc. but those early days, what a struggle! and this was early enough that I wasn't down very far in the mines eithr, heh
hi peeps. targeted bait calculator is up!
https://brokencygnus.github.io/stardew-fishing-calc/home
doesn't let you choose fishing level 18, smh
(desert festival chef can give an extra +3)
hmm it should not let you select 'using training rod' and 'targeted bait' together
good point, I'll change it
great addition though, just checked sea cucumber (for lucky lunch), nice to see the numbers
ah yes I forgot. I only made sure magic bait and targeted bait are mutually exclusive
because the calculations would be monstrous
when i tested it, it was like 4 entire seconds
According to the wiki, Clubs/Hammers swing at 720ms, Swords at 400. Each +Speed reduces by 40ms. so you're effectively swinging this massive hammer at twice the rate of a Sword.
ludicrous speed
could it be possible to have an average catch value as well? might be a weird question
catch value as in gold?
yeah
well that depends on your skill with perfect catches
the age old debates of which area is best to fish in in what season and weather etc
I mean, are you sure you're gonna perfect catch all catfish and sturgeons?
there needs to be some assumptions thrown in there
that is an aspect i did not consider in my suggestion
Isnt the cap 19
Or am i misremembering
10 + 1 master + 5 seafoam + 3 desertfes
good point 19 it is
gonna deploy it after I figure out how to implement @hidden ore' suggestion
You doing quality bobbers? or running 2 corks to get half the fishing bar filled?
Are they not? You're talking about perfect catching
No?
The discussion was fishing calculator
The slider only goes up to 15, trillian suggested increasing it to 18
I noted the cap was 19
@drowsy steeple why does selecting targeted bait buff the trash rate
it's a long story
in short: without targeted bait the first fish you catch is what you get; with targeted bait the THIRD fish you catch is what you get, and you can catch trash twice
I was under the impression targetted bait doubled the length of the fish table first before it defaulted to trash at the end
the first iteration also has trash at the end
and it's more likely to get to the end of 2 fish loops without catching 3 fish than getting to the end of 1 fish loop without catching 1
Is it still possible to plant fruit trees along the edge of the greenhouse?
yes
does that mean its possible to roll fish -> trash -> fish for the 3 rolls?
what's that one recipe i'm missing?
yea, but overall it becomes increasingly likely for you to catch trash if your targeted fish isn't in the pool
@hidden ore @undone imp @gray oriole updated with your suggestions, thanks for the input!
https://brokencygnus.github.io/stardew-fishing-calc/home
it wont let me though!! Am i doing smth wrong
do the trash rolls from targetted bait not have a chance to drop jelly?
jelly is considered fish in this case
see advanced options => info
it still rolls trash even with a guaranteed jelly though
because there's a chance that you catch jelly => something else => trash
or something else => jelly => trash
Not on the game rn, but ill do my best to explain what was going on. I can grab screencaps later if it helps. i wanted to move some of my fruit trees inside the my greenhouse around because i didn't like the order they were in as well as plant some extra trees.
I was walking along the edge where i had trees planted already and counted 2 squares between every tree so i was following that spacing. Was holding a mango sapling to plant it and the mouse over box never turned green to indicate i could plant there. I tried a couple areas around the edge and even the areas that turned green wouldnt plant the sapling (wasnt consumed)
dang, late night desert fishing with targeted bait is a corner case I didn't anticipate
who would do that anyway
desert counts as river? 
woah i got woody's secret RIGHT AFTER i got jack be nimble
the former from breaking a mahogany tree on the dig site and the latter from tilling artifac spots also on the dig site
worked fine for me idk
good thing it didnt fall into the water lol
yeah but in mountain's lake, its still attached to a river on either end
I believe in cindersap pond as well?
only need 3 vanilla books left, one of which i cant get until next year
I guess there's no lake jelly
I was just kinda assuming there'd be no jelly at all for desert though
I'd table flip if there's going to be 1 more jelly to be needed to craft fish smoker
sea jelly is already a pain
I mean look at the chances
ill try again later and hope it just fixed itself
I think it could be influenced by mods? But my greenhouse is vanilla
got the dragonscale boots
I wasnt able to plant because of some blocks placed nearby but after getting rif of them i finally succeed
depends on if this is earlygame or lategame
earlygame, it's a pain but lategame u can just fish at GI
uhh
turns out the corner case was from dividing 0 by 0 fml
are jellies exclusively from catching trash or do they have their own entry in the fish table
the latter
jellies do not replace trash idk who spread that lie
maybe cave jelly idk
but sea and river jellies have 0 precedence like other fish
If I plant speed gro on an ancient fruit tile will it disappear when the ancient fruit is harvestable?
No
nope
Dang so I have to remove the crop and the tilled tile if I want to replace it with deluxe fertilizer?
can u not just put the fertilizer directly onto a tile with fertilizer?
Oooh I can?
idk
Cut hardwood stumps everyday
Omg I just saw the opossum on my new spring y1 save, and I haven't even seen it yet on my fall y4 save lmao
Be prepared to commit mass deforestation bestie
does.. fishing depth not affect fish quality in the mines?
It should

i'm assuming this is the check for determining fish quality
it only seems to check fishing level and luck
hmm, interesting
real
luck isn't even listed as one of the possible stats for affecting quality on the wiki
unless i'm reading this wrong, this section seems to mean only f100 can even drop cave jelly at all ??
The hi !!
this is clearly wrong, to clarify, as u can definitely catch cave jellies elsewhere
@gray oriole see if it interacts with StardewValley.Menus.BobberBar
I think it should since it doesn't get overridden
When you get an iridium fruit tree sapling will it immediately produce iridium fruits when grown?
I think it just grows faster
And then you have to wait 4 years again?
I thought it grew faster AND preserved the fruit quality
That's how I understood it at least? I didn't actually check tho
I really hope so
from wiki:
Higher-quality saplings will start producing higher-quality fruit faster (for example, an iridium-quality sapling will start to produce iridium-quality fruit 73 days after planting)
Wow, you still have to wait over 2 months for an iridium sapling to make iridium fruit?
Still better than 4 years
yeah but to get iridium sapling it takes 4 years to begin with
fruit quality is based on the "age" of the tree itself iirc
sapling quality modifies the rate a tree ages
Even after year 4?
lol i wrote that wiki section like 20 minutes ago
Ayyy thank you, cause I checked an hour ago and it wasn't there lol
I definitely remember seeing that piece of info far earlier than 20 minutes ago
maybe in the forums idk
iirc this also means its optimal to chop down a fruit tree as soon as it becomes silver quality so you can get a silver quality sapling
because a silver quality sapling will age to iridium faster than a default quality one
And then same for gold quality?
no, you spend more time for gold
it does grow faster but to get there you spend more time
322 days total for iridium with this, vs 364 by just waiting
I just wish fruit trees weren't that underwhelming comparing to mass planting crops
mhm
even more so now with iridium scythe
they could at least have a higher cap than 3
their whole thing was being "slow" and then curveball u have to harvest every 3 days
I thought you meant quality cap
See this is why I think trees should just skip tiers but remain normal otherwise. Now it's objectively better to chop a tree down and immediately replant it at silver, but otherwise you get punished for chopping it down
like there's supposed to be radioactive quality or something
If the quality just immediately got back you could simply chop fruit trees down to easily move them anytime, and you wouldn't be incentivised to chop them down at silver
hi
what does gold have to do with it
input quality doesn't matter
I mean dehydrators are simply a worse option than jars or kegs for valuable fruit
oh does it not?
Quality rarely affects machine output
if it did, that'd be another story
the only times input matters for artisan goods is like.. ostrich eggs, wool, and casks
Smoker
wine and cheese for casks
You can age other drinks too, right?
Like pale ale, mead, etc., or am I misremembering?
you can
When are we getting aged coffee CA
can mystic trees grow moss? there's no definitive statement about that on the wiki it seems
no
You could check if there's a sprite for it
i'm sure that wouldve been faster than asking here
I guess it sorta makes sense that the magic tree can't grow moss

cheeses are still the 3rd and 4th best options after starfruit and AC wine
i sometimes age a pale ale so I can drink it in front of pam
I didn't realize that aging goat cheese is more profitable than regular cheese, now how does that work with goats producing 2x slower than cows?
I think Cows would overall be better?
Well, unless you have so many goats and cows that you can't age it all
lmao just realized 1.6.8 didn't even get its own patch notes or announcement
yeah just an edit in the 1.6.7 patch notes lol
ConcernedApe was clearly not having a good day yesterday 
1.6.6 broke Pierre's stocklist, 1.6.7 fixed it but broke other things worse
Amazing
did 1.6.7 fix corn showing up twice at Pierre's with the stocklist?
We've all been there
I remember spending forever rewriting a whole section of code in a project to fix a bug, it not actually fixing anything, and then within a day of the first "fix" releasing noticing that I still had a dummy variable left in the code that was breaking everything
Coding just be like that
that's why a good QA team is as important as a good dev team
but QA is as boring as boring can be
The QA team is part of the dev team I think
idk we call the group "tech"
I think anyone who contributes to the release of a game should count as a developer
I'm not in the gamedev industry so i don't actually know what terms they use
Even if it's just the office janitor. Without them there would've been no game
But that's just me
and a QA is just a full-time playtester, and a playtester is just a paid player. you have to draw the line somewhere
that only works if you use the dictionary definition of the word "developer"
does anyone know what's this referring to?
50% mastery XP now only applies to farming, as originally intended.
Its not really something with an agreed upon definition/meaning like terminology often is in video games, but “developer” generally tends to mean a more specific position/role in software development
It was bugged to halve all mastery xp
Probably?
oh well, mastery is not worth optimizing anyway
Having mastery take twice as long as intended probably would affect perfection speedruns i guess
If anyone even does that in a significant capacity that is
it doesn't affect them at all lol
only the iridium scythe is relevant as a reward, and they get that using farming xp anyways
the rest are only needed to get the last crafting recipes, and they get the xp from farming again, you get more than enough xp when grinding for the 10M gold
why does gold ore sometimes drop with a strange texture?
?
ill have to get a screenshot the next time i see it happen
but sometimes when gold drops for me it apears with a different icon than normal, but when I pick it up it changes to its normal appearance
you sure it's not radioactiv eore?
certain
is it in a specific location, or any mines?
to my memory so far its been in the normal mines, im about to run through the skull cavarns though, so ill see if it happens there
Do u have any mods
playing on vanilla
Weird
I should note also, its only sometimes, most times the gold ore just appears as normal. And I think its only been happening with gold ore that spawns from enemies
Guy has done like 3 or 4 Perfection speedruns since 1.6 released already
are you sure it's not just like, 2 separate stacks of gold ore being dropped lol
Or gold and solar essence
thats what I thought the first time, but it looks visually distinct to me
didnt Haboo get an under 24 hour perfection run?
Isn't it at like 18 hours now?
regardless, his perfection run isn't on speedrun.com
on there, the top run is at a day and 2 hours
Maybe he's waiting for the final 1.6 version to submit?
Cause technically all the runs are slightly differently affected by the 1.6 patches
not even his run from 1.5 is on there for perfection
Huh
after he finished the first 1.6 run he said he wouldn't submit before he got sub 20. but he probably submitted it and it hasn't been moderated yet lol
i don't think the mod queues are public on speedrun.com
Yeah that could be it too
Hell of a lot cheaper than spending a (smokable) Lava Eel on it!
yooo
do you fish for it at the volcano or the mines?
Fishing in mines is never worth it unless its for perfection or cave jelly
for lava eels specifically, there are 3 mines exclusive fish that can only be caught there
stonefish, ice pip, ghostfish
You need to catch all fish
Can you remove an innate enchant from an item and does it refund anything
Not ingame to check rn
you can't, you can only reforge with a dragon tooth, and that always puts a new enchant on
Shame
could you leave a bait maker at the forge? or will it disappear?
How does the trout derby work?
Catch trouts > get tags > recieve rewards
I'm not getting any golden tags
You're catching rainbow trouts?
Catch rainbow trout, 33% per trout
You should get 1 tag every 3 trouts
I have caught 4 raiinbow trouts and no tags
Its 33% not every 3
Its not a counter, there is no guarantee
Also get yourself a baitmaker
Make that 5
Yeah not a guarantee, but 33% is ~1/3 hence the "you should get one every 3"
...Are these two here just to refute the idea that Lewis is Luigi and Gus Mario?
I think I got closer to one in four or five, when I counted up my trouts and tags the first time 
Theyre cousins obviously
you have to pay for the saplings at the island trader???
…?
Wait what
no?
Are you playing with mods? That's not a thing in vanilla
Ah yeah one of your mods probably added that
i think it's 'better balance' specifically, but i dont really see anything on the mod page or the config about that
Strange, #archived-modded-support might be able to help if you want it removed
i'm fine with it, the price tags aren't that high
Fair
it might be just showing the selling price of it
Price catalogue effect?
i doubt that the banana sapling sells for 10k g
Lmaoo
Feels like the dragon teeth would be worth that much sometimes
okay but here's the weird thing. I have Ui info suite, and it shows the sell price along the bottom of the info text box
it's showing the 10k there
i'm going to quickly remove better balance to see if it changes
Sounds like u have w mod modifying sell price
the only one that does that is better balance
(out of my mods list)
yep, it was better balance
i feel like i should go with farming for my first mastery
screw it im going farming
ayyy
oh i need more fiber
How much tillable soil is on GI again?
0.67^5 is still 13.5% just fish more
With iridium sprinklers
I'm at 759 with pressurized iridium sprinklers
on just the left side
there's also 51 spots on the left I use for taro/rice
Mm might wait for the pressurised ones then before I plant
Got like.. 30 QI thingies rn
without the pressurized it's like 15ish less spots
I keep losing 1-3 crops to the river every harvest because of the scythe 💀
Rippp
my riverland playthrough in a nutshell
at what point do i start getting prize tickets from completing help wanted quests
it tells you before you take the quest
do only some quests do that
Doesn't it have something to do with the little stars on the help wanted board? Like every 3 you complete you get a prize ticket or smth
^
winter grass doesn't grow right?
the stars dont show up for me even though im on 1.6
does it appear after a certain time? im on fall y1
Every third regular quest and every "big" quest
Shouldve appeared since day 1
At least i saw it when i first looked at the board
Like empty stars
oh btw i just got prismatic shard from a shadow sniper
Woah
right
Most likely
Its in the corner of the quest board ui…
^
Sounds like u have a mod fucking with things
probably
maybe its from a reshade/texture mod
i got a prize ticket from completing a special order though
Whichever mod is altering the look of the help wanted board probably
sth that changes the appearance of the board
from that chest next to it
Every special order gives a ticket
yeah i thought so
You get a prize ticket for each special order
And every third regular quest
You should still be receiving the prize tickets at least if you've completed enough help wanted requests but if not, then a mod i guess is screwing w that too
weird tho, never completed a help wanted quest so let me try completing 3
Oh
at least on this save
does progress reset if you fail a regular quest?
Nope
No
that would suck
Just every 3 completed
9 duggies and like 23 magma sprites and im done with monster slayer hero
You will get one
If this mod doesn't fuck with all the UI's, you should see the prize ticket as a reward in you journal in the quest description
Anyone else have a problem with their triple shot espresso not stacking with ones they made previously? Just made a couple TSE and the new ones are called "fresh TSE" and won't stack with my old ones?????
Exact same stats just a different name so won't stack
you have the Qi cooking quest active
You have a QI's quest active
Ah fuck
thats because of the Qi quest
They won't stack
That's what it is
they will revert to normal when the quest ends/expires
ship 100,000g of fresh cooked dishes
Ugh I just wanted to make coffee I'm not even shipping it for it 
you can still drink 'em normally
Game said nuh uh
i love you emily but this is not it
Yeah it's just annoying having them in two slots
yabadabadoo!
they dont stack tho which is annoying
if you made a bunch, switch to drinking fresh ones until the quest is done
if you don't plan on selling them
Yeah I'm gonna buy the wheat for the bread now
lmao ive completed danger in the deep like 3 times for this now
i think its time for me to get a stable
Just bought 160k worth of flour to sell 100k worth of bread 
25
I'm still 2 walnuts away from the farm obelisk and the rest are just from snail or the mines 
snail?
professor snail
i see
buy the rest?
Profesor snail
safari guy
Ugh that seems cheaty
I'm only on like.. 120
I can get the remaining 10
Oh also from golden coconuts
a few stacks of wood from grinding to foraging 10
Don't you get 40 or did I misremember it
Nah it's 25
This still wasn't enough wasn't it
no i have mastery now
i went with farming
might go skull cavern spelunking tomorrow
That is so real
wife slep
oop
Is that a new feature
it's just what Haley does during the Calico festival
dunno if it's marriage specific
It is
so is the dialogue different, or do all spouses sunbathe?
seb does not sunbathe, he watches the flamingo during the festival
Was the gourmand frog's dialogue changed
yes.
Y tho
he used to say some things that were unintentionally not the most appropriate
I literally never noticed anything like that
CA was told and changed it
Dialogue
this is one area where I feel that the dev explaining what was wrong, apologizing for it, and explaining the correction, might have been good for the stardew gaming community too. oh well
Which one should I pick for the mastery
I got fishing already
Aint no way
So I've been doing some math on msuhroom logs... And it seems like they're ridiculous for income. Unless I'm doing my math wrong.
With this setup of 9 trees in the middle, surrounded by mushroom logs, and then repeated... You can anticipate to make 3.5mil a year with Pine trees, or 5.1mil a year with Magic trees. This number could be higher bc of Iridium quality shrooms.
Numbers
Assumption is dehydrating everything in these calcs.
how do you get 9 trees side by side in the middle?
Plant them next to each other. Regular non-fruit trees grow regardless of what's next to them
If you sacrifice 4 Mushroom logs, and plant Trees in those 4 corners. you're only down 1 Tree.
Ideally want 9+ for a 5% chance of 4 , and then 100% chance for 5 on all the others
A few thousand fewer gold/year isn't much when talking about Millions.
Yeah
heavy furnaces are really good
ok i claimed my 2nd mastery
i would hope so lmao, they seem expensive
I went mining => farming => foraging => combat => fishing
lmao i need to make furnaces to get a heavy furnace
just destroy your existing furnace array
for a second my frontal cortex forgot this isn't factorio with "array" there
theyre smelting my iridium rn
I used the furnace to make the furnace
greater chance to find geode affects omni geodes?
Yee
no way thats such a good reference
isnt like Thanos a farmer
youre so good bestie
YES
double gems is nothing to sleep on too
where do you get these mind ideas
Thanos played SDV frfr
Eh, crystalariums
They give you more gems than you know what to do with
Wait are you talking about mining mastery
yea
Heavy furnaces are 100% worth it
Saves coal and adds an extra bar
You effectively save 50% coal and a shit ton of time using them
zamn
what I don't get is fishing mastery, it doesn't give anything useful at the point of the game where you have masteries
except for fishing insane amounts of legend II
anyone know any farm mods that have things from the getgo? like riverlands starting with fish smoker,meadowlands with coop etc
never forget seb's bong incident. (the sprite got patched silently sometime around 1.05 into the blue vase, but dialogue about it never really changed LMAO)
Advanced iridium rod helps catching the hard fish significantly easier
Challenge bait offers profit opportunities
So you can look at it like the rod helps casual players catch fish easier,
The bait helps experienced players make more money
challenge bait and the advanced rod are pretty nice if one of your primary cash flows is mass fish smoking (me)
gotta be a challenge run when your primary cash flow comes from fish smokers
and golden fishing chests are another avenue of getting animal crackers
so i cant complain abt those
its not my primary one anymore but it helped a lot on the come up
Good idea here. Will redo calcs in a bit. Percentages change with 13 trees
4 trees are mutually exclusive with 5 trees in that diagram. removing the four trees leaves you with the same amount of trees
7x7 around the logs changes though with the layout
Interior ones get 13 instead of 12 or 16
oh I see what you're doing, basically making the layout "wrap" around the 7x7 spaces?
Yeah
aside from those walkways in the middle
Yeah, walkways to make it easy to traverse
They can't remove the 4 + trees, leaving an X. The middle most tree can't grow when any of the others are fully grown.
wouldn't be easier making the grids 6x6?
Ah buuutttts
OM MO
MOMOM
MOM
MOMOM
OM MO
still 9 trees
why's everyone so hyped about the iridium scythe?
us vanilla players mostly
I didn't word it great, but yeah, you have to remove the X from the Center, and put them on the Log corners. and then remove the middle most Tree
Wiki says it's all 8 Tiles are checked for A fully grown tree
Have you seen how quickly you can harvest a huge field of crops now?
Now if only it allowed harvesting from kegs/jars so Mobile/Console players could use corners in sheds.
tbh i depend a lot heavily on ponds and pigs for money 😭 still relatively a new player and found farming kinda boring ngl (i still go for starfruits dw)
they still couldn't place things in those corners
ponds for money is a new one
lava eels go BRRRRRRRR
Farming is ultimately the most profitable thing you can do in stardew so a tool that makes it easier will be very popular
well their roe tbe, but you get the point
No no, I think the eels are having "fun" in there
You just gotta put down some sprinklers on Ginger Island, plant, and then you do whatever until harvest is ready
Best passive profit once you get sprinklers rolling for sure
But even before that there's never really a time where you shouldn't farm, aside from Winter I guess, though we do have powdermelons now
Animals and everything else you have to engage with almost daily
i just unlocked ginger island a while ago, haven't explored much i'm yet to go scavening for golden apricots
Do powdermelons make a good profit?
you mean walnuts
Apricots are good
I mean what else are you gonna plant in the winter?
I opened 6 gold mystery boxes, i got: lucky lunch (2x), triple shot espresso (3x), mystery wallpaper, ruby ring and 2 prism shards 
It's either powdermelons or nothing
Infinitely more than 0 before 1.6
I've not gotten to winter yet in 1.6 hahaha, just asking
speaking of which how do you get those?
ah alright, thanks!
When does ginger island unlock?
you can unlock it after the community center is done
Willy will send you a letter I believe
yep, he sends the letter then you get him hardwood, iridium bars and battery packs to fix his boat
Ooo okay!
idk which mastery to pick first oml
Does challenge bait work during trout derby? Mine isn’t working like it used to…
it does
I did fishing because that’s what I mostly do. Then farming so I can get the animal crackers
Strange… maybe it’s my mods
mhm us, i main fishing so that's what i was considering first. i have another point and that's what's confusing me. anyways yeah doubling produce does seem like a w ngl
What other one do you want?
Farming is good for the blessing statue
Helps a lot with non-farming stuff too
can't decide between the combat and farming one, i need to get to level 100 in caverns so I figured combat might be good but farming seems more tempting
fair enough I guess ill go for it
i intend to get farming first and then combat
Farming prob. But it’s easy to level up in mastery
-1 less mod to do, literally makes farming af so satisfying
it's easily the best item in the masteries
pair it up with all the speed buffs you can do
it's going to be quick
dunno if it works with farming buffs tho if it does then its more op
like food buffs? it does
nice
it doesn't work with the bonus from the foraging perk tho
?
you do get iridium quality, but no chance of extra yields
??
can you undo the dark shrine of night terrors?
Gatherer doesn't work
You dont get iridium quality crops from botanist
on wild seeds
Feed another bun
i hope so, considering the points required also increase with each level
i got two mystery wallpapers ong 😔
I get so many of those it’s annoying
true
You could by applying the weapon with the enchant as a skin to another weapon. Unforge to get both back
Okay, mushroom logs take 2
72 logs, 2.5 mil per year, ish
The fact trees can't mature next to each other kinda makes this really awkward
how do u harvest ginger?
Hoe the plants at ginger island. Ones with animated four leaves which are on tillable ground
Or you slay tiger slimes
Wonder if it's that they're rooted that hard into the ground that pulling by hand is futile, or that the surface stalk would snap right off if you tried. ...I guess both is certainly possible
Bro these mystery boxes are killing me
On the farm map, tilled soil does not always un-till itself overnight. So if you want more ginger from the island farm, remember to manually un-till the tiles with your mining pick after you dig the ginger out.
The other island maps do un-till the soil every day so it's not necessary there
Why did I get that one that gives two more mystery boxes like three times
Idk at least you get more stuff
I always chuckle when I get those
It funny
qi and clint are actually conspiring to get you to pay more to clint for opening them
nah, everyone in the town is over charging you
is this new in 1.6 or is it an expansion mod?
looks like an expansion
not even iridium smh
is iridium smoked legend the most valuable single item in the game? i haven't found anything better
I’ve got the walnut room unlocked, I can’t wait to get that quest
are these birds new? I've never seen them before
1G is closer to a penny than a dollar. 25G is somewhere within an order of magnitude of 25 cents.
If Clint's so broke that this makes a difference, he can have it.
Not sure if this should go here or in farms and outfits since it's a new update spoiler but I love love love this look for the baby room
Aww it's so lovely
Haven't gotten the junimo catalogue yet but obsessed with the theme 😭
not sure if this is a 1.6 help wanted message (like if they wrote it like this aswel in 1.5) but i thought this was cute x3
Is this rare?
Yeah but all fish can drop roe now. Roe value depends on fish value. So legendary roe is good.
Even modded fish automatically have a chance to drop roe, as well.
Oh wow imagine getting it on the main legendaries you only catch once
Should preserve for even higher value ofc.
Theres a Qi quest that lets you catch variants of those guys again. I got some Legend II roe from that 🙂
Pretty good bang for the buck.
What’s the item on the right ? I think the one on the left is mystic syrup but not sure
mystic syrup and raisins iirc
how do yall getting those new 1.6 things like trinkets and stuff?
is there any kinda milestone to get to, any condition mb?
max all skills at 10. then you can open a door from grandpa in the forest to unlock all this stuff.
oh, now this door finally makes sense, ty
Yeah masteries beyond that door are the main tthing gatekeeping the new stuff.
Once you have them, trinkets drop a fair amount.
trinkets are mastery, certainly a milestone, but there is new stuff that you can get early game too
I got all the early stuff i think
Yes like books
I found a ladder in SC, went down and immediately used a healing food
Left the mine instead
Yeah they are surprisingly easy to get but there are some very rare variants like the ||prismatic frog egg||
i had a dream that i was given like 5 magic quivers for some reason and i was like tf do i do with this
Hi guys! Someone knows a simple way to get Tea Set ?
Oh my god I hate abigail
Trying to get into willy's on the night market to go to GI and harvest my starfruit
AND SHE'S BLOCKING THE DOOR
Every time I try to open the door I end up talking to her instead
I just want my starfruit 
why does junemo kart exist
it's the trashiest minigame i've ever seen especially for the qi challenge
As a fun lil mini game
it's unplayable how is it fun
How is it unplayable
buy it from a traveling merchant
its pretty simple to do if you have money
the fruit spawn in unreachable locations 90% of the runs up to the 4th level
I think they're just bad at the game and annoyed they can't beat it
From year 25+ lmao
yea
i did beat it

is this like a reference or anything?
5% every season after year 25 for 1 mil gold
is a bruh moment
guys
I think it's just a joke
how to change cat color
It's literally just a decoration
Paint
fr?
but i accidentally got a black cat and named him Terry
i wanna have an orange cat
called Terry

i don't want two Terrys
do yall think it'd be fitting if farming mastery gave the pressure nozzle recipe?
it feels like, a bit too weak to be a qi thing, but still really really nice
No
no, there wont be
more cave layouts was added as... 1.6.3 was it? or .4?
when is 1:7 coming out
mostly been tweaks to 1.6, like some new cutscene involving the forest neighbours when complete... and uh
fish frenzy events
the changelogs r pretty easy to read, aside from "wtf is a fish frenzy"
when is 1.7 though ?
1.6.9 kind of thing
well 1.6 was a massive update, and CA wants to work on haunted chocolatier
aside from bug fixes, and maaaybe lil balance changes, stardew valley is done
this fish has to be a smoked one?
thanks
man im really lazy to play cuz of how grindy, so i just use speed hax
im done foraging mining fishing in like 3 hours
game hours
when is hc?
speaking of time, darn i didnt catch 555.5!
i mean i had previous playthroughs to like year 4-5
thoughts on the meadowlands farm?
itll be ready when its ready
i think its trash, crops are king
one of the most unique layouts to try and play around, and the blue grass is v pretty
i still havent found any dino egg
ive still never played with any mods whatsoever
any smoked fish or especially goby?
Is any1 getting golden tags from trout derby? I'm on a multiplayer session and no tags are obtained
any smoked fish
sometimes theyre just really, really rare
im like played the game some time now and the grind is boring
We are two players on a full day, no tags
if anything i want the games progression to take me a bit longer, lol. wish there were more "make the game harder" mods
oh should i remove the green grass so i can let the blue grass grow?
when its a wednesday and pierre is closed
does the animals automatically eat the blue grass?
if you wanna, yeah. it is better for animals
but you need fruit tree seeds
unsure as to how that works, if they prioritize it. i dont think they do?
thanks
wow they added a lot of stuff
maybe im still in year 1 so its kinda boring
tho i have the speed hax on
SVE makes the community centre much harder, and other mods definitely make cc harder
You can also try turning profit margin to 25% (items sell for 25% of the price)
joja mart or community centre
Whichever you want
like whats better
wtf i just got 4 irid bars and a golden animal cracker from a golden treasure chest 😭
Neither are better
It's whichever fits your playstyle
thanks
Can you replace fertilizers? Like if a tile has speed gro on it can I switch to deluxe fertilizer?
Untill and place the new one
No you have to destroy it and re-hoe it
Danggg so if I have an ancient fruit in the green house I have to destroy it just to put deluxe fertilizer?
Yup
I don't bother fertilising my af tho, they go straight into the kegs or seed maker
How can I improve it more? I feel like im missing out on more decoration around my giant Qi Bean :3
Do you have the new tree unlocked with mastery?
The mystic one? :3
It's a bluish colour so I think it would look nice to make a tree circle around it
Yes!
Ah! Super idea! Ill plant some of those around for sure! :3 Thank you!!
I'd wager this was the last big update, but CA will probably try to fix as many bugs as possible in this version.
Even if it takes 1.6.17 lol
Is there any major known issue left in SDV?
And hell, please do, the game looks sick
Put an alien rarecrow with a qi hat
And the mystic tree blues would go very nice with the fruit
You mean major update issue (caused by 1.6)?
Or in general
I think it's about bugs
Cause major I'd say no but lots of minor ones, then again no game is 100% free of bugs
Like the recent Pierre catalog and crash issues in 1.6.5 I think
You fix one and 3 more appear
CA quickly fixed it
Ahhh!! Such good ideas! I still need to obtain that crow, im first starting to make coins now, since ive been lazy before, but Im sure i only miss like 2, to get the qi hat rarecrow :3
If you use the Mouseypounds predictor, it tells you exactly how to bet and when to cash out at the casino's Calico Jack minigame and end up with a ridiculous number of coins
Anyone else having a bug after 1.6 where after seeing an NPCs heart event, the NPC goes invisible?
I had it happen with leo and now abigail, 2 and 8 heart events respectively
Like they're showing up on my map, they can interact with the world, but they're invisible to me, and there's no talk/gift icon when hovering over where they should be
It's never happened to me pre-1.6 so I'd have to assume it's a 1.6 bug?
Maybe if you play with mods on, one of your mods didn't get appropriately adjusted to 1.6
All my mods are 1.6 compatible, and it didn't turn sebastian invisible after seing his 10 heart event, but did for abigails 8 heart on the same day so idk what the problem is
events just sometimes make characters invisible for the rest of the day. it's intentional and a mod showing them on the map afterwards would be the real bug
yes, leo's 2-heart literally ends with the command /end invisible Leo
I believe that happened pre 1.6
i feel like either a milk man or a ups driver
I'd wear that irl ngl
It's cute
does anyone have some unpopular bee house layouts?
"Need a ride?"
that reminds me of caine in vtmb
here you go
Lollll what is this
This makes me want to cry
i saw a lot of layouts but with very little bee houses
cry me 5 iridium sprinklers
unpopular for good reason 😄
i want some layout that uses up to 500...
i found one with 150 beehouses
but there is a chance to harvest flowers which is not cool
idk maybe someone there is into honey farming so can share some nice layouts
here is an update of my preserved veggies...
@drowsy steeple are you building in Morse Code
S . O . S. H . E . L . P
Farmer is trapped on the farm, only hope is that Mr Qi flies over and sees the Morse Code bee houses
just finished my first full year with the update :)
Yooo that's cool!
Alright, it's efficiency research time
[[Bee_House]]
I forgot I suck at efficient placement
daamn it is so expensive...
anyways, that's what I came up with for a singular flower
only 14 tiles unoccupied, all in range of flower, all harvestable without breaking
what if you can use more space and more flowers??
I don't know if you can use more space without the need of breaking and replacement
I tried this to maximize honey out of single flower, if you want more I think you can just copy and eventually rotate the layout (entrance)
As I said I'm bad at practical space management
If it doesn't have to be in a garden pot, there's another layout...
Grabbed right off a google search
When I plan bee house layouts, I also prioritize "make sure the flower is not in harvesting range" so I don't have to worry about accidentally plucking it. Wonder what layouts exist for that concept...
@chilly bloom will you upgrade the ginger island beehive layout after this update?
Damn, he's just sitting there. Menacingly
-
Think my event broke - looks like I'll have to skip 💀
140 honey, 3 fowers
You can't access the ones in the middle tho
Well without destroying and replacing the beehives every collection day
looks beautiful but what if i dont want to harvest the flower...
some are unobtainable to collect
Theres spots u cant reach
aaaaaaah
It's really difficult
and now i reset my day because i accidentally wasted my freezer
(Also it's first time I do something like this lol)
clearly we need the honeyscythe
what is this new rotten plant thing
I give up
yeah best you can do is use it for orange dye in clothes but it's genuinely useless
just be careful harvesting honey and don't stack them close
to not harvest the flower
you can accidentaly harvest the flower

